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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.12.2020, 15:57:48
En tiedä, miten monelle käsite on tuttu, mutta tuo Critical Social Justice, CSJ, käytännössä sisältää kaikki vasurien nykyiset ääliöteoriat. Ajattelin, että tälle voisi avata uuden ketjun, kun itsekin on tullut aiemmin heiteltyä asiaan liittyviä kirjoituksia ketjuun jos toiseenkin. Voi siirtää esim. olemassa olevaan kulttuurimarxismi ketjuun (itsekin vasta löysin tuon ketjun, näytti olleen hiljaisena jo lähes vuoden), mutta tämä lienee kuitenkin hieman eri asia. CSJ:ssä on mukana marxismin piirteitä, mutta tuo ei ilmeisesti ole kuitenkaan tuon ääliömäisyyden päälähde. Selittänee myöskin sitä, miksi "vanhan ajan" vasurit ilmeisesti olivat vuosi sitten Ruotsissa pohdiskelemassa vähän uusia kuvioita (tuon kulttuurimarxismiketjun viimeisimmän vastauksen perusteella).

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,71398.600.html (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,71398.600.html)

Alkuun siis määrittely (Helen Pluckrose).

QuoteCritical Social Justice has some intellectual underpinnings in "critical" neo-Marxism, but it is mostly grounded in postmodern notions of power, knowledge and language, which view society as constructed of oppressive systems of power and privilege that legitimize some forms of knowledge over others, which then creates ways of speaking about things—discourses—that perpetuate the oppressive power structures. Most people, it argues, are blithely unaware of those oppressive discourses and need theorists and activists to reveal them to us.

CSJ manifests in current scholarship as postcolonial and decolonial theory, Critical Race Theory, queer theory, intersectional feminist, disability and fat studies or simply as (Critical) Social Justice Scholarship. It appears in activism as a drive to decolonize everything, see whiteness and white fragility everywhere and scrutinise language for evidence of transphobia, ableism and fatphobia. It is colloquially referred to as wokeism to indicate an awareness of the oppressive power structures of white supremacy, patriarchy, imperialism, cisnormativity, fatphobia etc. that the majority of us are sleepwalking through.

Itse vasta törmäsin tähän käsitteeseen seuraavassa Quillettin haastattelussa. Haastateltavana on siis Helen Pluckrose, joka kirjoitti kesällä yhdessä James Lindsayn kanssa kirjan "Cynical Theories", josta näyttikin olevan jo maininta Hommalla (en ole itse kirjaa lukenut). Kyseessä siis sama parivaljakko, joka yhdessä Peter Boghossianin kanssa teki pikku jekun "tiede"maailmalle pari vuotta sitten. Kyseessä siis itsensä (oikeiksi?) vasemmistoliberaaleiksi mieltävät tutkijat. Tämä kyllä käy hyvin selvästi ilmi ainakin Pluckrosen kirjoituksista, joka ilmeisesti vielä uskoo, että vasurit voivat "korjata itsensä". Lindsay taitaa olla vähän fiksumpi, oli jo äänestänyt Trumpia tämän vuoden vaaleissa.  :D

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,1542.msg3246483.html#msg3246483 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,1542.msg3246483.html#msg3246483)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,108907.msg2946003.html#msg2946003 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,108907.msg2946003.html#msg2946003)

https://quillette.com/2020/12/16/on-activist-scholarship-an-interview-with-helen-pluckrose/ (https://quillette.com/2020/12/16/on-activist-scholarship-an-interview-with-helen-pluckrose/)

QuoteOn Activist Scholarship: An Interview with Helen Pluckrose

In recent years, free speech and inquiry have come under attack on college campuses, ethical relativism has spread, and demands to decolonize syllabi and rid them of canonical white male texts and thinkers have become increasingly common. Hostility to reason, objectivity, and Enlightenment universalism now disfigures some social science and humanities departments, and these alarming ideological trends have trickled down into mainstream culture where they affect the lives of ordinary people.

In their book, Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity—and Why This Harms Everybody, Helen Pluckrose and James A. Lindsay look at how postmodern theory and activism have come to replace traditional scholarship, and the threats these anti-Enlightenment beliefs pose to liberal democracy.
I caught up with Pluckrose, an essayist and editor of Areo magazine to discuss her book. She lives in England.

Haastattelijana tässä siis Jason D. Hill. Tästä eteenpäin Hillin kommentit/kysymykset normaalilla tekstilla, Pluckrosen vastaukset kursiivilla.

Quote(...) The book covers a lot of territory from postcolonial studies, to critical race theory, fat studies and disability studies, queer theory, feminism and gender studies and, of course the philosophical rubric that ties them all together: postmodernism: First, can you tell our readers Why you and James Lindsay decided to write this book now? Postmodernism has been around in our universities for a long time. Why the sudden urgency?

(...) The reason the pushback is suddenly so much more evident to people outside the universities is because the current manifestation of postmodern ideas of power, knowledge, and language is Critical Social Justice (CSJ) scholarship and activism. CSJ's influence has increasingly been being felt much more broadly than just in the universities. Books like Kendi's How to be an Antiracist and DiAngelo's White Fragility are best sellers. People are being no-platformed, fired, and cancelled for disagreeing with these ideas. (...) Since the brutal death of George Floyd and the BLM protests, my colleagues and I have been inundated by requests for assistance from individuals whose employer, university or children's school is trying to impose mandatory "antiracist" training of a thoroughly illiberal kind rooted in critical race theory ideas about invisible systems of whiteness underlain by bad science about "implicit bias." We have had to set up a Discord server to try to triage this and help people convince their employers to allow them to reject racism from their own philosophical, ethical or religious beliefs and not this highly theoretical and political one. It is important to note that people of all races object to this kind of "antiracist" training and that black people are politically and intellectually diverse. Similarly, many women reject intersectional concepts of feminism, few LGBT people have even read queer theory, the majority of trans people just want to be left alone to live as feels authentic and most obese and disabled people have no wish to take this aspect of themselves on as a political identity.

QuoteDefine for our readers the four or so basic tenets of postmodernism and why having spawned so many disciplinary satellites you regard it as the danger that it is?

The postmodern ideas that have survived into the successive waves of "theory" culminating in Critical Social Justice are rooted in an understanding of knowledge as a product of power perpetuated by discourses. (...) The critical theorists exist to deconstruct these discourses and make their oppressive nature visible. This results in the breakdown of boundaries and categories through which we understand things like emotion and reason, fact and fiction, male and female. It also produces a profound cultural relativism and a neurotic focus on language and language policing as well as a rejection of individuality and humanism in favor of identity politics. This is a problem because of the resulting threats to freedom of belief and speech, the divisive tribalism and the rejection of science, reason and liberalism.

QuoteI am always wary of speaking in terms of attacks on the "West" because postmodernism, CSJ and the kind of postcolonial and decolonial theory that forms part of it is very much a Western phenomenon. It doesn't really have much of a presence anywhere else yet. Meanwhile, the antidote to it—science, reason, and liberalism—are values held by people everywhere. However, it is fair to say that postcolonial theory and postmodernism generally demonizes the West as a colonial, white supremacist, capitalist dystopia. Its greatest threat is to science and rigorous empirical research and its problematization of all historical figures and drive to "decolonize" knowledge.

QuoteIs there hope in the academy for a renaissance? Will reason, logic, rational discourse, and a commitment to universal liberal values prevail? Or have things turned an irreversible corner? Are these activist scholars and their work national security threats?

(...) However, I do think we should not underestimate the current threat. I don't think it would be going too far to say that what we are witnessing right now is an attempted cultural revolution. I don't think it can win in the long term because it is too irrational and self-contradictory and results in circular firing squads. The big question is what will push it back? My fear is that it will be a populist, anti-intellectual, anti-equality movement from the Right and that this would be just as illiberal as Critical Social Justice and could actually roll back advances made for racial, gender, and LGBT equality.

Quote(...) It amuses me that I am currently accused of being far-right by social justice types because, before I criticized CSJ, I focused on religious irrationalism and illiberalism and then I was accused of being far-left because I focused most on Christianity. However, I became far-right as soon as I extended the same criticisms to Islam. (...)

Quillettelta löytyy myös (heinäkuulta) juttu tuosta itse kirjasta.

https://quillette.com/2020/07/20/the-truth-according-to-social-justice-a-review-of-cynical-theories/ (https://quillette.com/2020/07/20/the-truth-according-to-social-justice-a-review-of-cynical-theories/)

QuoteThe Truth According to Social Justice—A Review of 'Cynical Theories'

(...) Even when 150 artists and writers signed an open letter in none other than Harper's Magazine, decrying "a new set of moral attitudes and political commitments that tend to weaken our norms of open debate and toleration of differences in favor of ideological conformity," the response from many has been to mock these concerns and dismiss them as "paranoid," or "privileged."

The backlash to the Harper's Letter comes on the heels of John McWhorter's thesis that anti-racism is a new religion, David French suggesting that a secular fundamentalist revival is occurring on the Left, and Andrew Sullivan asking whether "intersectionality [is] a religion?" In short, there is indeed something of a militant crusade that lies at the heart of what Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay call "Social Justice in Action," the title of chapter nine in their sensational new book, Cynical Theories, which explains "How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody."

(...)

The book explains a half-century arc of intellectual history culminating in our current state of histrionic overreach in the name of social justice. Cynical Theories superbly exposes a history of ideas which, in challenging unifying narratives and universal values, have come to threaten free speech, honest debate, and the valuing of reason itself.

The story begins in universities and culminates in the dogmas of Social Justice. However Pluckrose and Lindsay do not suggest that working towards a more just society is an unworthy cause. They argue instead that the crusade marching in the name of critical social justice is often not about social justice at all. It is about a nakedly illiberal set of cynical theories that find their origin in the ideas of postmodern intellectuals dating back to the late 1960s. These ideas have coalesced into a central thesis which posits that truth, knowledge, and morality are so wrapped up in discourses of power and privilege that they must be understood as socially constructed rather than as the fruits of objective inquiry. In the words of Robin DiAngelo, "there is no objective, neutral reality."

If there is a mantra for postmodernism the denial of objective reality would be it. (...)

From the opening pages, one gets the sense that Pluckrose and Lindsay have immersed themselves in every noteworthy work of postmodern scholarship available. They begin by identifying two postmodern principles and four postmodern themes. The postmodern knowledge principle refers to a "radical skepticism about whether objective knowledge or truth is obtainable and a commitment to cultural constructivism." The postmodern political principle is the "belief that society is formed of systems of power and hierarchies, which decide what can be known and how." The four postmodern themes are: (1) the blurring of conceptual boundaries such as that between health and sickness or truth and belief, (2) the power of language to construct reality rather than to merely articulate the intent of an author or an objective reality that we can discover, (3) cultural relativism, and (4) the loss of the individual or a universal human nature in favor of compilations of socially constructed intersectional identities.

(...)

This summary necessarily oversimplifies a half-century of evolving ideas. Indeed, Pluckrose and Lindsay devote six of their 10 chapters to explaining how these ideas have morphed and mutated, beginning with postcolonial theory, and working their way into queer theory, several waves of feminism, gender studies, disability and fat studies, critical race theory, and intersectionality. They demonstrate an impressive erudition as they analyze postmodern texts to uncover the meaning of things like standpoint theory, epistemic violence, and positionality, and explain how social justice scholars resolve the contradiction between "radical relativism and dogmatic absolutism" by favoring "interpretations of marginalized people's experience" which are "consistent with Theory" while explaining away all others as an internalization of dominant ideologies or cynical self-interest.

(...) In this phase, social justice activism treats Theory as reality, and thus as the one and only way to view and interpret reality.

And so what we are left with is "The Truth According to Social Justice." Teaching, write Pluckrose and Lindsay, "is now supposed to be a political act, and only one type of politics is acceptable—identity politics, as defined by Social Justice and Theory." In this third phase, postmodernism pushes into everything, applying its deconstructive methods everywhere in the task of creating social change. Not without noticing the inherent irony, they observe that "postmodernism has become a grand, sweeping explanation for society—a meta-narrative—of its own." As such, it functions as a set of pre-existing theories into which activists shoehorn the situational intricacies of experience. This has led to the dogmatism we see in militant social justice activism, "a tradition of faith that is actively hostile to reason, falsification, disconfirmation, and disagreement of any kind."

QuoteAs Theory developed, however, reasonable and humane concerns about oppression and marginalization mutated into an ideological virus spreading through scholarship and society (...) The Truth According to Social Justice abandons the liberal commitment to reason, science, and debate as a failure to "decolonize" our minds from the influence of Enlightenment institutions erected to benefit straight, white men. In sum, politics matters more than truth.

What Cynical Theories expresses is not a paranoid state of mind. It is a genuine concern about the threat that social justice activism, identity politics, and the legacy of postmodernism poses to Enlightenment liberalism and the belief that "disagreement and debate [are] means to getting at the truth." The book explains how we have arrived at a state in which social justice scholarship treats the principles and themes of postmodernism as The Truth, where no dissent is tolerated, and anyone who disagrees must be cancelled.

Ja vieläpä yksi Pluckrosen kirjoitus parin viikon takaa, alussa ollut lainaus on tästä kirjoituksesta. Omasta mielestäni Pluckrose ei vieläkään ole täysin ymmärtänyt tilanteen vakavuutta.

https://areomagazine.com/2020/12/02/is-critical-social-justice-the-biggest-problem-in-the-world/ (https://areomagazine.com/2020/12/02/is-critical-social-justice-the-biggest-problem-in-the-world/)

QuoteIs Critical Social Justice the Biggest Problem in the World?

I have always disagreed with people who liken the aims of Critical Social Justice (CSJ) activism to those of communist regimes. Last year, I still believed that, unlike communism, which has a clear end game of seizing the means of production for the proletariat, CSJ cannot become totalitarian because it is too contradictory, divided and irrational and too often operates like a circular firing squad since its proponents often lack a common goal.

(...)

However, over the over the past six months, it has become clear that CSJ can become totalitarian. Beginning in 2019, factionalism within CSJ has been gradually replaced by hierarchies. First, white women ceased to be a priority: the white women's tears and Karen memes demonstrated their fall from oppressed to oppressor. White gay men also fell foul of the system by frequently failing to be woke and lesbians were automatically suspected of being TERFs (trans-exclusionary radical feminists). Asians, Jews and Hispanics became "white adjacent" because large numbers of them failed to espouse Critical Race Theory. Over the last six months, the idea of combating anti-blackness and transphobia has taken centre stage and, with it, totalitarian aims to revolutionise society by abolishing the police, compelling white people to confess their inherent complicity in white supremacy and punishing and silencing anyone who disbelieves in the queer and gender theories behind trans activism.

It should be clear by now that there is a genuine and serious problem here that affects the real world, not just the ivory tower and a few mad activists. There is ample evidence of Critical Race Theory and trans activism being imposed on the workplaces, universities and schools of average people. Anyone still claiming that the Social Justice left is just a few fringe loons must be wilfully blind.

(...)

Nevertheless, Critical Social Justice is a legitimate danger to liberal secular democracies.

We are in the midst of an attempted cultural revolution. This must be acknowledged, understood, faced head on and defeated.


People who anticipate that CSJ could evolve into something akin to a Maoist revolution complete with struggle sessions are not conjuring this possibility out of nowhere. Many people within the movement strongly advocate such a scenario and they enjoy a public respectability that right-wing authoritarian extremists do not. Neither are people wrong to think that Trump would oppose CSJ over-reach more forcefully than Biden will. Biden may not oppose it at all. This doesn't make Trump a likely saviour of liberal, secular democracy, however.

(...)

This all adds up to a recipe for disaster unless the liberal left acts fast to publicly discredit Critical Social Justice and assert an alternative worthy of respect. At the same time, an ethical conservative right needs to reject populist conspiracy theories and post-truth narratives in favour of a rational and consistent conservatism that has integrity.

The question now is not which side is worse but: How can we, making common cause with people from both left and right, defend the values of liberal secular democracies, including freedom of belief and speech and respect for science and reason, and push back the ideological lunacy before it spirals out of control and takes all of us with it?

Erityisen vaaralliseksi tuon ideologian tekee se, että mielestäni (ja luultavasti muutaman muunkin Hommalaisen mielestä) monissa maissa perinteinen valtamätä ja superrikkaat globalistit (sekä oikealla että vasemmalla) ovat osittain liittoutuneet noiden hullujen kanssa, CSJ kun tarjoaa näppärän keinon hiljentää kaikki kritiikki ja eriävät mielipiteet, sekä suojella omaa mädättynyttä valtaa. Bidenkin tulee antamaan noiden hullujen puuhastella ihan rauhassa ja vapaasti, ehkä jopa kannustaa heitä, kunhan eivät liikaa käy vastustamaan valtaeliitin hankkeita. Kova usko tuntuu valtaeliitillä olevan siihen, että noita hulluja pystyy pidempiä aikoja kontrolloimaan.

Heitetään vielä loppuun joitakin aiempia, asiaan liittyviä (omia) kirjoituksia.

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,126935.msg3218487.html#msg3218487 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,126935.msg3218487.html#msg3218487)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,117192.msg3221205.html#msg3221205 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,117192.msg3221205.html#msg3221205)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3225294.html#msg3225294 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3225294.html#msg3225294)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,128607.msg3230515.html#msg3230515 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,128607.msg3230515.html#msg3230515)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.12.2020, 16:31:13
Tutustamatta tähän aiheeseen sen tarkemmin: kaikki nämä vasemmiston "critical" -jutut kriittisiä vain kaikkea sitä kohtaan, mikä teki länsimaista maailman johtavan kulttuurin renessanssin jälkeen. Logiikka, tieteellinen ajattelu ja sen sellainen selkopäisyys on tarkoitus korvata kaiken sen vastakohdalla, jota kutsutaan länsimaiseksi sivistykseksi.

Tästä hyvä esimerkki on se, että kotimainen - eikä moni muukaan paikallinen Wikipedia - ei ole edes saanut suomennettua "critical thinking" -artikkelia, joka on länsimaisen tieteellisen ajattelun ytimessä.

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinkingCritical thinking is the analysis of facts to form a judgment. The subject ... generally include the
- rational,
- skeptical,
- unbiased analysis, or
- evaluation of factual evidence.

Vasemmiston "kriittisyys" on näennäismystistä kielenkääntötemppuilua, jonka tarkoitus on pitää orjat orjina, ja orjien isännät isäntinä.


Kriittinen ajattelu on se, mikä vapauttaa orjat isäntien vallasta.



Mutta se on myrkkyä eliitille. Vastalääkkeeksi eliitti on kehittänyt "kriittisen teorian", "kriittisen rotuteorian", "kriittisen sosiaalisen oikeusmukaisuuden" ja mitähän vielä seuraavaksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: nochWunder on 16.12.2020, 16:42:29
Näitä pukkaa koko ajan lisää. Nimiä ja käsitteitä. Ne voidaan tiivistää termillä alistustyökalut.

Kriittinen rotuteorian, intersektionaalinen feminismin ja tämä kriittisen sosiaalisen oikeuden taustalla on kehittää yliopistoissa välineitä joilla voidaan tieteellisessä viitekehyksessä luoda ihmisten sortovälineitä. Niiden avulla voidaan pikku hiljaa lykätä mm. oikeuslaitosta siihen suuntaan, että vääriajattelijoilta voidaan alkaa kohdella kuin elukoita ja siunata se toiminta oikein asiantuntijataholta.

Siksi minä vertaan tätä aikaa Natsisaksaan. Juutalaisille tehtiin paljolti samoja juttuja. Niillekin löydettiin tieteellinen viitekehys.

Dehumanisaatio, kriminalisaatio ja lopuksi kansanmurha.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Chrattac on 16.12.2020, 17:08:23
Sen verran tuohon mun kirjasuositteluun lisään, että kirja on näemmä nyt Pirkanmaallekin hankinnassa, löytyy tunnuksilla kun hakee PIKI-puolelta (ei näemmä ilman tunnuksia) ja sitä voi jo varata. Suosittelen lämpimästi lukemaan kyseisen teoksen, sisältää hyvin paljon lainauksia ja lähdeviitteitä. Lainauksia lukiessa voi vain pyöritellä silmiään, että miten kummallisia (ja jopa vaarallisia) ajatusmalleja tuolla kuplassa on.

Nähdäkseni isoin ongelma on se, että näiden teorioiden dogmaan kuuluu se, että arvostelu painetaan villaisella. Perusteena on se, että "teoriaa saa kyllä arvostella, mutta vain siltä kantilta, että teoria on oikeassa, muuta väittävät eivät vain ymmärrä teoriaa". Lisämausteena se, että esimerkiksi intersektionaalisuudessa, jossa on koitettu määritellä esim millaista syrjintää vaikka musta transseksuaali lesbo kokee, mutta jos löytyy em. demografiaan kuuluva henkilö joka väittää teoriaa vastaan on kyseessä joko omanedun tavoittelu tai valkoisen patriarkaalisen ja kolonialistisen sortovallan aivopesemä henkilö, eikä näin hänen individualistisia kokemuksiaan tarvitse ottaa vakavasti.

Erityisen mielenkiintoista on noista polveutuva postkolonialistinen teoria, joka määrittelee esimerkiksi tieteen sorroksi sekä kolonialismiksi ja siten koittaa argumentoida, miksi sellainen länsimainen tiede ei sovellu esimerkiksi Intiassa tehtäväksi – ajatushan on ihan päätön ja intialaiset itsekin ovat ko. ajatusmallia oikeutetusti kritisoineet, mutta tällä ei tietenkään ole dogmaan mitään vaikutusta, koska he vain toteuttavat sortomalleja tietämättömyyttään. Löytyy myös ajatusmalleja, että ableismin syrjii tarkoituksella vammaisia (disabled) ja näiden vammaisuutta pitäisi juhlia, ajatus on sinällää hyvä mutta kun heitetään härän pyllyä, koska aihe juotetaan kiinni sellaiseen ajatteluun että esimerkiksi kuurona tai kuulovammaisena syntyneelle kuulokojeen hankkiminen olisi jonkinsortin väkivaltaa. Tai masennus on sellainen identiteetin osa, jota ei edes tulisi pyrkiä parantamaan vaan sitä pitäisi juhlia kuin jotain ihonväriä tai seksuaalista suuntautumista.

Suosittelen ehdottomasti hankkimaan kyseisen opuksen luettavakseen. Helmet alueella tosiaan on kirjastossa ja näemmä tulossa nyt myös Pirkanmaalle. Jos noilla alueilla ei asu ja kirjastosta ei opusta löydä voi aina toki laittaa menemään hankintaehdotusta, joka sitten johtaa johonkin tai ei johda mihinkään. Turussa ainakin taitaa moinen opus lentää suoraan uuniin poltettavaksi, ainakin muistelen että siellä taisi olla tämä epämiellyttävien kirjojen tuhoamisella kehuskellut kirjastotäti.

E: Pari typoa
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: hamppari on 16.12.2020, 17:50:47
Nähtävästi nämä Social Justice Warriors on samaa porukkaa. Youtubeen kun laittaa hakusanoiksi vaikka "sjw fails", niin näkee näitä idiootteja toiminnassa.

Toinen ryhmä, en tiedä onko samaa porukkaa, on Sovereign Citizens. Heidän mielestään esimerkiksi ajokorttia, vakuutuksia tai rekisteröintä ei autossa tarvita. "I'm not driving, I'm travelling." on heidän vakiovastauksenta poliisille. Ja lopputulos on useimmiten sama: poliisi särkee auton ikkunan, vetää sätkivän ja kiljuvan idiootin ulos ja paiskaa katuun. Bonuksena joskus taserikin surraa.

Kolmas idioottiporukka on First Amendment Auditors. He tunkevat kameroineen oikeustaloille, sairaaloihin ja mihin tahansa sisään pääsevät. He tulkitsevat, että heillä on oikeus kuvata missä vain, vaikka rikkoisivat muiden oikeutta yksityisyyteen. Nämä ovat kyllä niin häiritseviä videoita, että niistä ei pysty katselemaan kuin loppuratkaisun.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sator Arepo on 16.12.2020, 17:58:08
Vihollinen on hyvä tuntea, joten suosittelen hommalaisille tutustumista aihepiiriin. "Teoreetikkojen" omat tekstit ovat tavallaan paras lähde, mutta varsin usein ne on muotoiltu mahdollisimman monimutkaisesti ja vaikeatajuisesti. Tarkoituksena luonnollisesti se, että jutut vaikuttavat syvällisemmiltä kuin mitä ne todellisuudessa ovat, ja vähän yksinkertaiseksi itsensä tunteva lukija on valmiimpi nielemään ne pureksimatta.

Useimmille suosittelen New Discourses -sivustoa (https://newdiscourses.com/), jolla on myös YouTube-kanava (https://www.youtube.com/c/newdiscourses/videos). Siellä käydään näitä juttuja läpi suodattaen pois tuo tahallinen vaikeaselkoisuus, yksinkertaistamatta niitä kuitenkaan liikaa. Koska yksi kriittisen teorian käyttämä temppu on heidän ikioma jargoninsa, ja niiden ihmisten pilkkaaminen jotka eivät sitä sisäistä ("etkö sä edes tajua mitä valkoinen ylivalta tarkoittaa haha"), sivuilta löytyy myös ns. woke-sanakirja (https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/). Taustapiruna häärii zupin mainitsema James Lindsay.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.12.2020, 19:52:31
Quote from: nochWunder on 16.12.2020, 16:42:29
Näitä pukkaa koko ajan lisää. Nimiä ja käsitteitä. Ne voidaan tiivistää termillä alistustyökalut.

Kriittinen rotuteorian, intersektionaalinen feminismin ja tämä kriittisen sosiaalisen oikeuden taustalla on kehittää yliopistoissa välineitä joilla voidaan tieteellisessä viitekehyksessä luoda ihmisten sortovälineitä.  (...)

Itse ymmärsin nuo kirjoittelut siten, että tämä CSJ:ksi nimetty teoria olisi se, mikä on "soluttautunut" ja muuttanut kaikki nuo yksittäiset "sosiaalisen oikeuden" liikkeet sellaisiksi paskatunkioiksi, mitä ne nykyisin ovat. Sinänsä nuo kaikki liikkeet lienee sellaisia, mitkä on aikoinaan alkaneet jostain ihan todellisesta tarpeesta / hyvästä tarkoituksesta, mutta ajan myötä muuttuneet sitten täysin toisenlaisiksi. Jos tuo ymmärrykseni on oikea, niin sitten voikin kiinnittää huomiota esim seuraaviin kohtiin:

QuoteIt appears in activism as a drive to decolonize everything, see whiteness and white fragility everywhere and scrutinise language for evidence of transphobia, ableism and fatphobia.
QuoteHostility to reason, objectivity, and Enlightenment universalism now disfigures some social science and humanities departments, and these alarming ideological trends have trickled down into mainstream culture where they affect the lives of ordinary people.
QuoteCSJ and the kind of postcolonial and decolonial theory that forms part of it is very much a Western phenomenon. It doesn't really have much of a presence anywhere else yet. Meanwhile, the antidote to it—science, reason, and liberalism—are values held by people everywhere.
Quotemock these concerns and dismiss them as "paranoid," or "privileged."
QuoteIn this third phase, postmodernism pushes into everything, applying its deconstructive methods everywhere in the task of creating social change

Mielestäni tuota paskaa on alettu käyttää myös esim. pakolaisten/"turvapaikanhakijoiden"/maahanmuuton ja ilmastonmuutoksen vastaisten toimien kohdalla. Näilläkin molemmilla siis lienee ollut joskus aikoinaan ihan hyvä tarkoitus, mutta nyt ne on jalostettu noilla CSJ:n teeseillä ihan täysin muuksi. Suhtautuminen on sama, jos yrität selittää, ettei nykyisin länsimaissa suunnitelluilla toimilla näiden asioiden suhteen ole juuri mitään tekemistä järjen ja alkuperäisen tarkoituksen kanssa, verrattuna siihen, ettet ole valmis lankeamaan polvillesi tunnustamaan synnynnäistä rasistisuuttasi: Olet natsismusrassismus, joka ei välitä paskaakaan muista ihmisistä, oman kotimaan lapset mukaan lukien (jotka tulevat myös siis kärsimään hyvin pian hyvin kauhean kuoleman sinun kusipäisyytesi vuoksi).

Ja tästä päästäänkin sitten siihen, että kaikilla noilla liikkeillä tehdään nykyisin rahaa. Tai tarkemmin sanoen, rahaa siirretään tavallisten kansalaisten taskusta ihan muihin taskuihin. Maahanmuuton kohdalla rahantekorahansiirto taisi jo nousta vähän uudelle tasolle, mutta varsinainen kruununjalokivi on tietenkin ilmastonmuutoksen vastaiset toimet. Siksipä ne toimenpiteet pitääkin länsimaissa tehdä mahdollisimman typerillä ja kalliilla tavoilla. Ja eri mieltä olevat teilataan kunnon CSJ-tyyliin välittömästi.

En vaan edelleenkään usko, että tuo paska olisi levinnyt näin laajalle, ja edelleen leviäisi, ellei sillä olisi tosi isojen mätäpoikien ja -tyttöjen tuki. Ja tuon tuen syynä ei todellakaan ole mikään oikeudenmukaisuus. Luulenpa myös, ettei ilmastonmuutos ole sekään viimeinen asia, jonka kohdalla tuota sontaa käytetään kaiken (järkevän) vastustuksen eliminointiin.

Noiden hullujen ja superrikkaiden / valtaeliitin perverssin liittoutuman ymmärtäminen on vain jotenkin helpompaa, jos tuo CSJ ei kirjoituksen mukaisesti perustu kuin pieneltä osin marxismiin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Chrattac on 16.12.2020, 21:23:25
Quote from: zupi on 16.12.2020, 19:52:31
Itse ymmärsin nuo kirjoittelut siten, että tämä CSJ:ksi nimetty teoria olisi se, mikä on "soluttautunut" ja muuttanut kaikki nuo yksittäiset "sosiaalisen oikeuden" liikkeet sellaisiksi paskatunkioiksi, mitä ne nykyisin ovat. Sinänsä nuo kaikki liikkeet lienee sellaisia, mitkä on aikoinaan alkaneet jostain ihan todellisesta tarpeesta / hyvästä tarkoituksesta, mutta ajan myötä muuttuneet sitten täysin toisenlaisiksi. Jos tuo ymmärrykseni on oikea, niin sitten voikin kiinnittää huomiota esim seuraaviin kohtiin:

Itse asiassa kirjassaan Lindsay ja Pluckrose osoittaa, että juuret ovat postmoderneissa teorioissa (tässä tosin eksaktisti käyttäisin itse jälkistrukturalismiä (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4lkistrukturalismi)) ja muun muassa Jacques Derridan luomaa dekonstruktioajattelua (Derrida itse käsitteli oikeastaan vain sanojen merkitystä) sovelletaan paljoltikin lähes kaikkeen. Toinen, mihin teoria pohjaa hyvin pitkälti on Michel Foucaultin valta-tieto kytkökseen, jossa muun muassa määritellään se, että itse yhteiskunnassa käytettävä tieto sisältää tietynlaisen valtarakenteen ja vallassa olevat määrittelevät sen, mitä tieto on. "Power-Knowledge" -hakusanalla löytää aiheeseen liittyvää tietoa.

Tästä homma on sitten kasvanut, kun postmodernismi itsessään hylättiin ja jotkut väittävät sen kuolleen ja kuopatun. Todellisuus on se, että Foucaultin ja Derridan ajatukset muuttuivat 90-luvulle tultaessa pitkälti näiden nykyisten teorioiden mukana. On totta, että jo 90-luvun alussa muun muassa radikaalifeminismi nosti päätänsä, mutta ilmeisesti läpimurto sekoittumisen suhteen tapahtui vasta postkolonialististen teorioiden myötä. Näille toki olikin alkuun hyvä ajatus, mutta pitkässä juoksussa ne menivät metsään juuri mainitsemallani tavalla, jossa kaikki lännestä lähteneet asiat nähtiin jonkinsortin kolonialismina ja siten vaativat dekolonisaatiota. Postfeminismistä sitten nousi pystyyn queer-teoriat ja pienen jalostuksen mukana kriittiset rotuteoriat ja intersektionalismi. Uusina tulokkaina ovat sitten nämä ableistiset kannat sekä uusimpana läskitutkimus (tms, tiedä mikä olisi suomeksi hyvä nimi.), jotka puolestaan ovat lähes puhtaasti aktivistien omia tuotoksia.

Kuitenkin kokoajan mukana on Foucaultmainen ajattelu power-knowledgestä, jossa nähdään esimerkiksi ongelmana, "problemaattisena" – kuten alan termistöön kuuluu – melkein kaikki yleisesti hyväksytty tieto, johtuen siitä että ajatuksena tieto on aina jonkinlaista vallankäyttöä. Onhan se toki osin selvää, että "Tieto on valtaa", tavalla tai toisella, mutta tässä yleisestään yleisesti kaikkeen tietoon aina luonnontieteistä alkaen. Teorioiden mukaan mikään tieto ei ole universaalia vaan kaikessa pitää ottaa huomioon paikalliset kultturirelativistiset tiedot ja henkilökohtaiset kokemukset maailmasta, jotka määritelmällisesti ovat yhtä päteviä selityksiä maailmalle kuin esimerkiksi suhteellisuusteoria.

Kummallisinta tässä on se, että teorioissa on kova tarve lokeroida ihmisiä identeettien mukaan. Kyseessä on nopealla vilkaisulla selkeä ristiriita, mutta tätä ei oteta huomioon kun käytännössä yksilö on aivopesty tai koittaa saada jonkinnäköistä valtaa itselleen jos hänen kokemukset ovat kovasti ristiriitaiset kollektiivisen identiteettiryhmän määriteltyjä kokemuksia vastaan. Teoriat eivät millään muotoa ole individualistisia ja toisinaan on jopa väitetty, että individualismi itsessään on jo rasistista (https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jacksonwu/2020/07/07/how-individualism-spreads-racism/).

Olette varmaan huomanneet, että erityisesti sanavapauteen suhtaudutaan kovin illiberaalisti noissa piireissä? Syynä on se, että osana kaikkia teorioita on kovin pitkälti sellainen diskurssianalyysi (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diskurssianalyysi), jota sovelletaan lähes kaikkeen ja kaikkialle. Ovathan joidenkin mukaan sanat väkivaltaa jne. Tästä seuraa sitten myös kaikki nämä Suomessakin muodikkaasti heitellyt mikroaggressiot ynnä muut asiat, mitä kovasti ollaan joka puolella näkemässä. Sanojen määritteleminen väkivallaksi on ongelmallista, koska siihen perustuu puolestaan joidenkin mielestä oikeutus vastata epämiellyttävään puheeseen väkivallalla – olihan häntä kohtaan tehty väkivaltaa julkeasti lausumalla nuo epämiellyttävät sanat.

Quote from: zupi on 16.12.2020, 19:52:31
Mielestäni tuota paskaa on alettu käyttää myös esim. pakolaisten/"turvapaikanhakijoiden"/maahanmuuton ja ilmastonmuutoksen vastaisten toimien kohdalla. Näilläkin molemmilla siis lienee ollut joskus aikoinaan ihan hyvä tarkoitus, mutta nyt ne on jalostettu noilla CSJ:n teeseillä ihan täysin muuksi. Suhtautuminen on sama, jos yrität selittää, ettei nykyisin länsimaissa suunnitelluilla toimilla näiden asioiden suhteen ole juuri mitään tekemistä järjen ja alkuperäisen tarkoituksen kanssa, verrattuna siihen, ettet ole valmis lankeamaan polvillesi tunnustamaan synnynnäistä rasistisuuttasi: Olet natsismusrassismus, joka ei välitä paskaakaan muista ihmisistä, oman kotimaan lapset mukaan lukien (jotka tulevat myös siis kärsimään hyvin pian hyvin kauhean kuoleman sinun kusipäisyytesi vuoksi).

Ja tästä päästäänkin sitten siihen, että kaikilla noilla liikkeillä tehdään nykyisin rahaa. Tai tarkemmin sanoen, rahaa siirretään tavallisten kansalaisten taskusta ihan muihin taskuihin. Maahanmuuton kohdalla rahantekorahansiirto taisi jo nousta vähän uudelle tasolle, mutta varsinainen kruununjalokivi on tietenkin ilmastonmuutoksen vastaiset toimet. Siksipä ne toimenpiteet pitääkin länsimaissa tehdä mahdollisimman typerillä ja kalliilla tavoilla. Ja eri mieltä olevat teilataan kunnon CSJ-tyyliin välittömästi.

Rahaahan tällä tehdään. Ei mikään ihme, että esimerkiksi Robin DiAngelon täysin päätön teos White Fragility (https://www.amazon.co.uk/White-Fragility-People-About-Racism/dp/0141990562/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=White+Fragility&qid=1608148930&sr=8-1) on keikkunut (saattaa edelleen keikkua) pitkään Jenkkien bestsellerien joukossa. Kyseistä teosta suositeltiin muun muassa opinto-ohjelmiin. Samalla Trump itse asiassa kielsi valtiohallinnossa kriittisen rotuteorian opettamisen, mutta Biden on ymmärtääkseni luvannut palauttaa sen pakolliseksi virkamieskunnalle. Luennoitsijat tekevät saarnaamalla näkymättömästä rasismista, piirileikeillä ja työntekijöitä rasisteiksi haukkumalla paljon tuohta, kun instituutiot ja suuryritykset tilailevat SJW:iden paineessa noita höpöhöpökoulutuksia, joihin työntekijöiden on pakko osallistua. Epäilemättä tuossa teollisuudessa siis raha liikkuu.

*White fragilityä kohtaan Karlyn Borysenko on antanut hyvää kritiikkiä alkaen tästä videosta. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNV17dCBL4)

Quote from: zupi on 16.12.2020, 19:52:31
En vaan edelleenkään usko, että tuo paska olisi levinnyt näin laajalle, ja edelleen leviäisi, ellei sillä olisi tosi isojen mätäpoikien ja -tyttöjen tuki. Ja tuon tuen syynä ei todellakaan ole mikään oikeudenmukaisuus. Luulenpa myös, ettei ilmastonmuutos ole sekään viimeinen asia, jonka kohdalla tuota sontaa käytetään kaiken (järkevän) vastustuksen eliminointiin.


Noiden hullujen ja superrikkaiden / valtaeliitin perverssin liittoutuman ymmärtäminen on vain jotenkin helpompaa, jos tuo CSJ ei kirjoituksen mukaisesti perustu kuin pieneltä osin marxismiin.

Iso syy tämän levinneisyyteen on se, että jenkkien yliopistoissa avoimesti koulutetaan tätä uskontoa, josta sen on annettu levitä. Alkuun naiivi ajatus oli se, että kun radikaalit opiskelijat joutuvat oikean elämän kanssa tekemisiin höpötys lakkaa. Ongelmaksi tulikin se, että teorioihin oli kehittynyt joskus 2000-2010 luvulla huomattava aktivistinen aspekti, joka ei tyytynyt enää pelkkään akateemiseen pohdintaan vaan vaati toimintaa. Pikkuhiljaa he siis alkoivat muokkaamaan työpaikkoja ja yhteiskuntaa heidän teorioilleen sopivaksi. Lisäksi monenkieliset pseudointellektuellit kielikoukerot ynnä muuta saavat tavantallaajan sekaisin ja toisaalta lietsottua vähemmän älykkäitä, mutta trendivirtauksia seuraavia aktivisteja (näitä, yliopistossa koulutettavia, joilla ei ole mitään oikeaa substanssiosaamista tuottaa akateemista tutkimusta sekä kouluja käymättömät kuten AntiFa-fasistit ja muut, jotka vain haluavat kuulua joukkoon. Vähän samaan tapaan kuin hippiliikkeessä joku New Age touhu). Aiemmin kirjoitin dogmaattisuudesta, erityinen ongelmaa tuottaa se, että kyseessä on oikeastaan enemmänkin nonteistinen uskonto kuin mikään tiede. Uskontoa ei saa kritisoida tai jos kritisoit et vaan ymmärrä. Uskonto ei voi olla väärässä. Polvistu tai tule canceloiduksi tai vähintään joudut tekemään katumusharjoituksia.

Ongelma oli se, että uskonto on ovelasti puettu tieteen kaapuun, mikä johti taas siihen, että sitä ei liberaalin länsimaisen sananvapausperiaatteen mukaan voi kieltää ja toisaalta yksi suuri hyve on akatemian ja yliopiston vapaus. Ongelmiahan ei olisi, jos kaikki teoriat altistettaisiin normaalille tieteelliselle kritiikille. Näin ei kuitenkaan ole, koska omien määritelmiensä mukaan kaikki kritiikki on absoluuttisen väärässä ja he ovat absoluuttisen oikeassa. Kritiikki yritetään vaientaa kaikin keinoin rasistiksi, transfobiksi, homofobiksi... ties miksikä haukkumalla ja ääriesimerkeissä canceloimalla (Jordan B. Petersen) tai esim. mellakoimalla (Evergreenin mellakat, Bret Weinstein).

Lopullinen tavoite on kuitenkin aina valta. Siksi muun muassa pitkä marssi instituutioihin ja suuryrityksiin on ollut käynnissä jo jonkin aikaa ja siksi esimerkiksi jenkkien puuhasteluissa homma näkyy huolestuttavalla tavalla eri instituutioissa. Jotkut suuryritykset nykyään palkkaavat jopa C-tasolle (Chief Diversity Officer) (https://www.indeed.com/q-Chief-Diversity-Officer-jobs.html) näitä SJW uskonsotureita. Wikipedian mukaan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_diversity_officer) noin 20%:ssa fortune 500-firmoista löytyy jo kyseinen nimike.

E: Lisätty toiseksi viimeiseen kappaleeseen pari virkettä loppuun. Alkaen "Ongelma oli se...", jotka erotin myöhemmin erilliseksi kappaleeksi.
E2: lisätty sana "elämä", joka oli jostain syystä kadonnut kirjoituksesta kolmanneksi viimeiseen kappaleeseen.
E3: Amazon-linkki White Fragilityyn kuntoon.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: sancai on 16.12.2020, 21:56:22
Itse näen tämän ns. social justice-aatteen marxismista kehittyneen kulttuurimarxismin eli kriittisen teorian ja postmodernin käsitevääntelyn fuusioitumana.

Perinteistä marxismia aatteessa edustaa tavoite jakaa ihmisiä alistaviin ja alistettuihin luokkiin, mutta perinteisen marxismin vallankumouksellisuus muuttui kulttuurimarxismin kulttuurivallankumouksellisuudeksi, eli tavoitteeksi muuttaa tai kumota järjestelmä sen sisältä purkalla "rakenteita", joista vanhan yhteiskunnan realiteettien ja epäkohtien arveltiin johtuvan sen jälkeen kun kommunistit totesivat, että länsimaissa työväestöä ei enää saada kiihotettua kapinaan. Postmodernia ajattelua taas edustavat oudot valtavirtaistuneet teoriat vallasta ja näkyvyydestä: ns. representaatiosta tai marginalisoinnista, taipumus nähdä sanojen määrittävän todellisuutta ja halu nähdä faktat joustavana, subjektiivisena moninaisuutena. Juuri tällä postmodernilla elementillä äärimmäisen viisaatkin ihmiset oikeuttavat itselleen tämän aatteen valtavat sisäiset ristiriitaisuudet. Postmodernismia on esimerkiksi Hommaforumin käyttäjille kulttuurirelativismi, tai ns. gender-ideologia, missä kyseenalaistetaan biologisen sukupuolen olemassaolo uudelleenmäärittelemällä ja keksimällä uusia käsitteitä, koska sukupuolisuuden "rakenteiden" purkamisen koetaan edistävän kulttuurimarxistista vallankumousta.

Tämä postmoderni, tärkeilevä, ylemmyydentuntoinen, keisarin uudet vaatteet -tyylinen elementti on se uusi kulttuurimarxismin kärki, mikä iskee koulutettuihin ja vaikutusvaltaisiin piireihin. Enää ei kiihoteta proletariaattimassoja, vaan vallankumoukseen pyritään houkuttelemalla älymystö suorittamaan intellektuelli itsemurha. Länsimaissa onkin tapahtunut historiallinen käänne, ensimmäistä kertaa ikinä esimerkiksi Britanniassa työväenpuolue Labour on konservatiivipuoluetta suositumpi rikkaimpien keskuudessa ja päin vastoin.   

Suurin virhe, mitä länsimaiden oikeistolaiset ja keskustavasemmistolaiset tekevät jatkuvasti on tämän hulluuden vähättely ja sille nauraminen. Ylitunteelliset, nenälävistetyt, sinitukkaiset läskiaktivistit ovat toki naurettavia ja heikkoja ilmestyksiä, mutta erittäin vaikutusvaltaisille ja älykkäille ihmisille sopii vallan mainiosti, että me suuntaamme huomiomme nauramalla some-pelleille samalla kun he valloittavat megakorporaatioita, valtioiden virastoja ja valtamediaa. Siinä ei ole mitään hauskaa, että tämä kulttimainen aktivismi valtaa alaa kaikkialla yhteiskunnassamme.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.12.2020, 23:18:08
Quote from: sancai on 16.12.2020, 21:56:22
... hulluuden vähättely ...

Mitä vähemmän yhteiskunnassa on hulluutta, sitä paremmin kaikki yhteiskunnan jäsenet pärjäävät. Suomi oli sodan "häviäjä", mutta täällä ei ollut sodan jälkeen voimassa kovinkaan voimallisesti "isännät/orjat" -mentaliteetti. Parissa sukupolvessa noustiin maailmaan huipulle.

Mitä enemmän yhteiskunnassa on hulluutta, sitä suurempi hajurako eliitillä on orjiin, ja sitä heikommin yhteiskunnan jäsenet kokonaisuuteena pärjäävät.

Mielestäni tämä näyttää siltä, että vasemmiston "kriittiset" teoriat on luotu kasvattamaan kuilua isäntien ja orjien välillä, eikä kasvattamaan yhteistä kakkua, josta kaikille riittäisi enemmän. Esimerkiksi väestönvaihto Euroopassa koulutetuista eurooppalaisista kouluttamattomiin afrikkalaisiin ei varmasti tule lisäämään eliitin hyvinvointia, mutta se lisää eliitin ja orjien välistä kuilua. On vaikeaa olla vetämättä sellaista johtopäätöstä, että tämä tässä juuri on tavoitteena.

Teoriani: rahan rajahyöty on laskeva. Ensimmäisestä välimeveren huvilasta tulee eliitille hyötyä, sanokaamme vaikkapa 1000 yksikköä. Seuravastakin huvilasta tulee hyötyä, mutta vähemmän, esimerkiksi 800 yksikköä. Ja siitä sitten alaspäin. Kun on tarpeeksi huviloita, niistä on lopulta enemmän haittaa kuin hyötyä. Kuka esimerkiksi tarvitsee enemmän kuin 7 huvilaa ympäri maailmaa?

Jos hyödykkeen laskeva rajahyöty ei huvilatasolla oikein iske, niin mieti kuinka pullonavaajaa tarvitset mökillä. 1 = tosi tarpeen, 2 = hyvä olla varalla, 3 = ihan ok. 1000 pullon avaajaa = haitta. Mutta jos olet ainoa, jolla on pullonavaaja, kun muilla ei ole, olet kuningas. Se on valtaa. Teoriani mukaan vallan rahahyöty on nouseva.

Vastaavasti eliitti voi ostaa rahalla vain tietyn määrän rahahyödykkeitä. Näin ollen, vaikka orjat tuottaisivat isännilleen enemmän lisäarvoa tuottoisina yhteiskunnan jäseninä, nämä jäsenet eivät tuottaisi minkäänlaista lisäarvoa rahan kautta. Päinvastoin, ne uhkaisivat isäntiä. Ne uhkaisivat kuten Vanhan Testamentin rakentajat uhkasivat taivaassa olevaa jumalaa rakentamalla tornin, joka ulottuisi taivaaseen. Näen tämän VT:n kertomuksen käyttöohjeena eliitille: älä päästä orjaluokkaa yhdistymään, ja uhkaamaan eliitin asemaa.

Joten: sillä ei ole eliitille väliä, että hulluuden sponsorointi vähentää tuloja, koska se lisää valtaa, eliitin ja orjien välimatkaa. Tämä on teoriani: rahan rajahyöty on laskeva tietyn pisteen jälkeen, ja vallan rajahyöty on nouseva. Tämä saattaa olla oma ajatukseni.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 18.12.2020, 00:14:51
Quote from: Sator Arepo on 16.12.2020, 17:58:08

(...)

Useimmille suosittelen New Discourses -sivustoa (https://newdiscourses.com/), jolla on myös YouTube-kanava (https://www.youtube.com/c/newdiscourses/videos). Siellä käydään näitä juttuja läpi suodattaen pois tuo tahallinen vaikeaselkoisuus, yksinkertaistamatta niitä kuitenkaan liikaa.  (...)

Otetaanpa tuolta nyt sitten vähän lainauksia parista viimeaikaisesta artikkelista. Mitenköhän ihmeessä minulle tuli Kiiluvasilmä mieleen lukiessani noita... Suomalaiset tuomioistuimet käväisi myös mielessä useampaan kertaan.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/wokeness-threatens-rule-of-law/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/wokeness-threatens-rule-of-law/)

QuoteWokeness Threatens the Rule of Law

QuoteHere are two important ideas that currently exist in fundamental opposition to one another: "Reasonableness" and "Wokeness."

In advanced legal systems, we depend upon the concept of "reasonableness" and specifically a standard known as the "reasonable-person standard." This simply asks: what would be reasonable in, or what would a reasonable person make of, a given situation?

On the other hand, the "applied postmodern" ideologies that we refer to as "Wokeness" or "Critical Social Justice Theory" posit a concept of radical subjectivism and socialization into power-laden biases. In this worldview, there is no such thing as a "reasonable person,"  (...)

These ideas are wholly incompatible with one another. (...) they therefore present a significant threat to the very rule of law that makes liberal societies like ours possible — to say nothing of securing equal rights for all citizens.

It should be enough, then, to point out merely that the Woke ideology is both gaining significant amounts of power on nearly all levels — social, cultural, institutional, and legal — and is wholly inimical to the legal foundations of a free, liberal society filled with citizens who are equal under and before the law. In fact, just pointing this out should constitute an emergency for all classically and traditionally liberal-minded people, left, right, and center. The fact of the problem, however, raises an even darker specter that needs to be reckoned with as well: what would the Woke replace reasonableness and the reasonable-person standard with, if they gained enough means to do so?

The answer, as it always is with the Woke, is power that suits them and disenfranchises those who disagree with them. In place of reason, we would be given Critical Theories, mostly of identity, and our legal structure would have to be reorganized around these new principles.  (...) Our entire legal landscape would be reinterpreted under the assumptions that these unjust applications of systemic power are permanent so long as the system lasts, and therefore need constant redress.

(...)

These critical principles would also include the idea that the only people who make any sense are those who have a credible claim upon having experienced systemic oppression (...)

Under these assumptions, our legal system will corrupt itself into an identity politics-based replica of the worst failures of history, those in which some ruling capital-P Party becomes the basis for the law and its standards. That is, these assumptions aren't just wholly incompatible with the idea of a free and liberal society, they are the guarantor of its replacement by a totalitarian ideology and Party designed to be favored by it.  (...)

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/how-wokeness-undermines-constitution/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/how-wokeness-undermines-constitution/)

QuoteHow Wokeness Undermines The Constitution

Quote"We live on stolen land." So we're told – repeatedly – and so we're increasingly forced to repeat to ourselves in public-facing "land acknowledgments." Solidifying this spurious message is one of the primary objectives of the Critical Theory of Postcolonialism. It is echoed in Critical Race Theory, which reminds us ad nauseum of an even more inaccurate claim that the American economy was built on stolen labor through the institution of slavery. To the casual observer, these narratives might spur reflective thought or even a critical consciousness, or they might only induce an eye roll, but they have a far more sinister application that can be seen quite clearly when one understands the subversive method of political activism employed by Critical Theory ("Woke") activists.

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects individuals in our society from illegal search and seizure of property without probable cause and a duly issued warrant consistent with it. It does not apply to stolen property. Suddenly, then, in the instant the popular Woke narrative above is juxtaposed with this idea, the property rights ensured by the Fourth Amendment come crashing down around us even while their guarantor remains fully intact and in precisely the same black and parchment print it has always been.  (...)

Put another way, as the Woke narratives about society and its "true" machinations gain sway, the fundamental protections of the Bill of Rights will increasingly be subverted. They will not be done away with but will be reinterpreted in total according to the usual double standards the Woke so successfully employ for themselves everywhere they gain the power to do so. This will happen without the need to change a single word.  (...)

Unlike traditional civil rights discourse, which stresses incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law. (p. 3, third edition, emphasis added)

It isn't just the Fourth Amendment that can be subverted and repurposed to a Critical double standard within the purview of the Woke ideology, then. Equality, legal reasoning, rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law are all on the chopping block. Thus, any policy or contract can be manipulated in similar fashion, either by changing the meaning of the terms used in writing it or by changing the context in which they are to be understood. It is the latter of these that we see able to be employed against Fourth Amendment protections in the United States.

Consider the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which protects against self incrimination and ensures due process of law.  (...)

Given the context, this could turn the Thirteenth Amendment into a Woke weapon of ferocious power—as wouldn't a fitting punishment for complicity in a system that enabled and profited from slavery be some involuntary servitude, once one is duly convicted by a Woke court? The Eighth Amendment would offer no protection against this as a "cruel and unusual punishment," as that idea risks being interpreted under a Woke rubric where one's privilege mitigates or even eliminates the authenticity of one's suffering.

There's no harbor in the Sixth Amendment either (...)

This line of thinking could extend to almost anything, applying to any number of laws, policies, contracts, and even the text of the Constitution and its Amendments—even without changing a word of them (as they are seeking to do in California currently). The Nineteenth Amendment, guaranteeing no abridgment of suffrage based upon sex, is frequently attacked in Woke circles for being racist (...)

That is, even the Constitution offers us uncomfortably little protection against Woke totalitarianism as the Woke gain cultural hegemony and, as a result, control over ever more levers of power. Theirs is a war waged at the levels of interpretation, meaning, and context, and until we stand up firmly against their empowerment, we risk finding out in very disquieting ways just how crucial those can be.

Mielipuolista sinänsä, mutta jälleen pitää palata maahanmuuttoon ja ilmastonmuutokseen, ja tähän kohtaan:

QuoteThus, any policy or contract can be manipulated in similar fashion

Mutta eihän nyt toki maailmassa ole ihmisiä, jotka olisivat valmiita tukemaan ja käyttämään hyväksi näitä mielipuolisia teorioita ja niitä kannattavia hulluja, saavuttaakseen itselleen lisää valtaa ja mammonaa, eihän... Niin kuin kukaan ei ole käyttänyt hyväkseen korona-virusta saavuttaakseen itselleen lisää valtaa ja mammonaa, eihän... Tai joidenkin elämässään epäonnistuneiden huumeveikkojen kuolemaa. Joiden kuolema on omasta mielestäni suurelta osin seurausta näiden samojen moraaliposeeraavien paskapäiden tekosista, jotka tätä woke-sontaa kannattavat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2020/06/29/climate-change-racism/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2020/06/29/climate-change-racism/)

QuoteClimate change is also a racial justice problem

QuoteNormally, I use this column to respond to questions from readers about climate change. But — amid our ongoing national reckoning with racism prompted by the unequal impacts of the covid-19 pandemic, the recent killings of African Americans at the hands of police, and 400 years of history — this was the question on my mind.

(...)

Racism is "inexorably" linked to climate change, said Penn State meteorologist Gregory Jenkins, because it dictates who benefits from activities that produce planet-warming gases and who suffers most from the consequences.

(...)

In a course he teaches called "Climate Change, Climate Justice and Front Line Communities," Jenkins traces this connection from slavery, which created the economic foundation for the industrial revolution, to modern-day policies that influence where people live and environmental risks to which they are exposed.  (...)

Racial inequality also means that the people most at risk from climate change have the fewest resources to cope. (...)

"Unless inequity is addressed now," Jenkins said, "future impacts from climate change will disable many communities of color."

(...)

"These same exploits that are causing climate change on a massive scale ... are causing very immediate health problems in areas inhabited by black and brown people,"
Newsome said. "You can't afford to not care about it when you're part of these marginalized communities."

(...)

Meanwhile, kids of color are spearheading America's youth climate movement. A Washington Post-Kaiser Family Foundation poll in 2019 found that at least twice as many black and Hispanic teens participated in school walkouts on climate change than their white counterparts; they were also more likely to say people need to take action in the next year or two.

"Climate change is the most immediate threat for the marginalized people of this country and of the world," Newsome said. "But that also means we are the most quick to act."

The world of climate activism has historically been dominated by white men, (...)

"Seeing the incredible disproportionate impacts, the flooding, the heat," she continued, "young people are saying, 'That is wrong. We have to do something about it.'"

Voi vattu tuota kusipäistä aivopesua. No, seuraavaan...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/18/environmental-justice-means-racial-justice-say-activists (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/18/environmental-justice-means-racial-justice-say-activists)

QuoteEnvironmental justice means racial justice, say activists

QuoteCoronavirus has emphasised health, social, economic and environmental inequalities facing BAME people

QuoteTackling systemic racism is fundamental to achieving environmental and climate justice, according to leading activists, as Covid-19 disparities and the global uprising against police brutality lay bare the ramifications of racial inequalities in every sphere of life.

A wave of protests demanding an end to racist policing have taken place in towns and cities across the world amid mounting evidence that brown, black and native communities have also been disproportionately impacted by the coronavirus pandemic.

Increasingly, experts and protesters have identified racial injustice as the common denominator in police violence, as well as environmental and health inequalities linked to poor Covid-19 outcomes. And on the streets, what started as Black Lives Matter protests have morphed into a movement for racial justice amid growing recognition that systemic racism denies people of colour equal access to economic, social, environmental and climate justice, as well as health equity, political power, civil rights and human rights.

(...)

As the crowds have grown, so have demands for radical reforms.

"Racism is built into America's DNA, and since 1619, black Americans have had to endure this violent and oppressive system ... Covid 19 exposed our nation's racial divide," said Robert Bullard, distinguished professor of urban planning and environmental policy at Texas Southern University and co-chair of the National Black Environmental Justice Network (NBEJN).

(...)

"Environmental racism kills, air pollution and rollbacks to environmental protections and regulations make it hard for black people to breathe. At NBEJN we are connecting the dots," said Bullard.

Globally, the environmental and climate movement has long faced criticisms of failing to understand the crucial role of racial justice in terms of both impact and solutions.

(...)

The UK has lagged behind. But widespread protests in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement have also evolved into a reckoning with Britain's racist past and present - including within the environmental movement.

(...)

Income inequality and job insecurity also play a part. Kissi-Debrah says black people in the UK are less affluent than other ethnic groups, and less likely to be able to spare time for meetings, protests or lobbying actions.

(...)

"If you look globally at what happened to climate, a disproportionate amount of blame does need to go to the global north, especially the former colonial powers. Environmental reparations are owed," said Krishnan. "And more thought needs to be given to solutions. The idea of carbon offsets simply reinscribes colonial frameworks."

(...)

"In recent weeks, the protest movement is really helping. People are more open to listen. It made people realise the US is not the only country with a systematic problem of racism," she said. "We need a moment to really think how we relate to one another... The toxic system is something that we all have to live with."

(...)

"To the white people who care about maintaining a habitable planet, I need you to be actively anti-racist. I need you to understand that our inequality crisis is intertwined with the climate crisis. If we don't work on both, we will succeed at neither."

Ei mahda mitään, tämän hulluuden, tyhmyyden ja kusipäisyyden kanssa vaan loppuu sanat kesken, kerta toisensa jälkeen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 19.12.2020, 12:54:23
Quote from: sancai on 16.12.2020, 21:56:22
Itse näen tämän ns. social justice-aatteen marxismista kehittyneen kulttuurimarxismin eli kriittisen teorian ja postmodernin käsitevääntelyn fuusioitumana.

(...)

Lindsay olikin kirjoittanut tästä kehityskulusta helmikuussa hyvän artikkelin. Teitkin muuten juuri pahan virheen kun käytit "social justice" nimitystä...  ;)

QuoteNaming the Enemy: Critical Social Justice

Over the last few years, it has become apparent that, for whatever nobility and moral worth lies in the project called "social justice," something has gone badly wrong with the ideological movement on the far left that repeatedly calls for—or, more accurately, demands—it.  (...)

The strength of the social justice brand is, in fact, entirely reasonable. It fights for social justice, which not only sounds good but is something most of us generally support. (...) The overwhelming majority view and broad liberal consensus is that we should have societies that are as fair and kind as it is possible to be, even if we don't all agree on what fairness and kindness look like or what the limits of possibility are.

Still, the ideological movement that's visibly more likely to carry pitchforks than water for the cause of social justice has become a menace and threatens to become a tyrant, and this is a shame. We risk losing a lot of progress at the hands of this abominable fumble. Something claiming to speak for social justice is rotten, and I am declaring that something the enemy of free, civil, and liberal societies. This may be seen as controversial, but the dispute is borne in ignorance. It, itself, openly and admittedly begins and ends with a ruthless criticism of liberalism and free societies, which it deems as inherently and systemically oppressive.

Attempts to name this ideological enemy—for enemy it is—are therefore necessary so that we might frame our arguments against it with the requisite precision and clarity needed to challenge it, but they are also fraught. One might be tempted to call it the Social Justice Movement or Social Justice ideology or just Social Justice made into a proper noun, as many have, including myself and my colleagues. This clearly has its problems. It feeds into exactly the nearly perfect branding that the movement wants, it risks the genuinely positive valence of that which genuinely deserves the name "social justice," and it places people who understand, thus resist, this parasitic ideology on a back foot of having to explain why on Earth they'd be against social justice in the first place.

It's quite the pickle. (...)

From similar quarters, then, we might hear the movement called "Cultural Marxism," probably more than half rightly, but for all the truth this carries, it's a difficult—and icky—position to defend. (...)

Complicating the problem of naming the enemy in the "woke" ideology of Social Justice further is that what's going on with this movement today is undeniably postmodernist (and poststructuralist)—despite protestations from overly narrow philosophers who contend that postmodernism proper died out thirty years ago. This makes it even more difficult to get anything Marxist, Marxian, or even Marxish to stick to the effort to create social justice, no matter how accurately the terms at hand might apply.

The unavoidable issue is that the postmodernists were, themselves, not Marxists or even Neo-Marxists like in the Frankfurt School (...)

This means that the postmodernists, socialistic or even communist in orientation as they might have been (and they were), were far too pessimistic, cynical, and nihilistic to be real Marxists, structuralists, or anything–stable-ist of any kind. That would have required precisely the kind of commitment they studiously avoided by writing thousands of pages to declare it naive, foolish, idealistic, out-of-touch, and in immediate need of deconstruction. (...)

(...) Indeed, much of the existing literature around this problem studiously avoided naming it, lending strength to the postmodernism at its heart, which made it very frustrating and difficult from a communications point of view.

(...)

Still, it's nearly always best to name your enemy something that they would or do call themselves, when you can, because then they can't deny that the name fits. (...)

Fortunately, two critical educators, Ozlem Sensoy and Robin DiAngelo, the latter of which is quite well-known and can thus be treated as representatively authoritative, provided me with a solution to this naming problem in their 2012 education manual Is Everyone Really Equal? They, themselves, call what they're presenting critical social justice. This fits. I've just added capitals to make sure we understand the proper noun for what it is—the enemy, which we can now name: Critical Social Justice. This is how they introduced this concept to the world:

(...)

Even though it's not 250 words long, there's so much in that introductory passage about Critical Social Justice that we could spend pages and pages discussing it, but let me draw your attention to a few key points that characterize Critical Social Justice and identify it—not social justice—as the right target, thus the right name for this enemy of free societies.

First, note that the authors take pains to explain not only that Critical Social Justice isn't what most people mean by "social justice," it's also something so distinct from social justice that "some scholars and activists prefer to use the term social justice in order to reclaim its true commitments." That is, Critical Social Justice does not have the same "true commitments" to social justice as most people. They tell us explicitly that people with "mainstream standpoints" about social justice mean something entirely different than what they will describe. This leads us to a staggering conclusion: Critical Social Justice doesn't represent social justice. It represents a particular approach to that idea that must be distinguished from social justice lest people confuse the two.

Second, observe that the authors indicate explicitly that what sets Critical Social Justice apart is that it relies upon a critical theoretical approach. This is, in fact, the belly of the beast. It also makes clear why there's so much weight to the wide-ranging attempts to brand this enemy with terms like Neo-Marxism, New Left (liberationism), and Cultural Marxism. Put simply, they're not wrong. Critical Social Justice is critical theory. Moreover, this status is precisely what sets it apart from "mainstream standpoints" on social justice—the ones that represent its "true commitments."

Third, pause to appreciate the fourth bullet point given above telling us what Critical Social Justice stands for: "Social injustice is real, exists today, and results in unequal access to resources between groups of people." Volumes could be written on this point alone—and perhaps they should be. "Social injustice is real." That is, Critical Social Justice begins with a reification of social injustice. This seems like a small point, perhaps even an obvious one, but it's a very big one that takes a little explaining.

Of course, before proceeding, it is quite clear to virtually everyone that social injustices do occur and have occurred in far greater levels in the past; I will not and would not deny that. It's also quite clear to the majority of us that these social injustices legitimately represent a problem that deserves our attention; this I fully agree with. This, however, is where the postmodern context of Critical Social Justice has to be brought into scrutiny. (The above discussion of this point on my part aside, Sensoy and DiAngelo mention these roots, along with those in the Critical Theory of the Frankfurt School, a few pages after the above passage.)

Because Critical Social Justice is postmodernist in orientation as well, for it nothing is objectively real. Everything, and very much not least knowledge, is under postmodernist thought merely a contrivance of social constructions, which are in turn reflections of social power and its concentrations ("positionality" "must be engaged"). Race is a social construct; okay, fine, probably so. Gender is a social construct; erm, maybe, but we'll let you (mostly) have it. Biological sex is a social construct; wait, what? Various theorists take their social constructivism more or less neat as compared with others, but the general attitude of antirealism at the heart of postmodern thought and the Critical Social Justice movement is hardly a matter of legitimate controversy. The postmodern view is that, short of our own unnarrated subjective experience, everything in human life is a socially contingent construct. Reality may be out there, but we can't know it.

Under Critical Social Justice, however, social injustice is real, like really real. (It is, after all, a matter of unnarrated subjective experience.) That is, Critical Social Justice roots itself in a worldview that denies that anything is real (as opposed to being socially constructed), that objective truth isn't possible (in the general sense, not the philosophically technical one), but that the subjective experience of injustice or oppression isn't just valid or important but objectively real in how our societies are structured. Note well: "Critical social justice recognizes inequality as deeply embedded in the fabric of society (i.e., as structural), and actively seeks to change this." This, by the way, reminds us that the postmodern (i.e., poststructuralist) roots of Critical Social Justice are utterly central to its worldview.

Though it goes too far afield for this essay, the subject of how postmodernism mutated, not died, to admit the Critical Theory of the Neo-Marxists in limited, class-disinterested fashion is developed at length in my forthcoming book with Helen Pluckrose, Cynical Theories. Interested readers are strongly encouraged to have a look.

Fourth, notice the focus upon social activism. The passage just quoted indicates that Critical Social Justice "actively seeks to change" the "fabric of society," which it deems as being "structurally" unjust. That means that signing up for Critical Social Justice carries with it signing on to a badly designed bid for social revolution that seeks to dismantle the current fabric of society. Dismantle it, though, and replace it with... what? Replace it with Critical Social Justice, of course, which is to say critical theory that operates in service to Cultural Marxism (the conflict theory, not the conspiracy theory) using postmodern social theory as its primary apparatus.  (...)

Unsurprisingly, then, this commitment is to be serious, as indicated in the next-to-last bullet point in their list: "Those who claim to be for social justice must be engaged in self-reflection about their own socialization into these groups (their 'positionality') and must strategically act from that awareness in ways that challenge social injustice." Must. Must. Twice this sentence explains that it isn't sufficient to be for social justice, to care about fairness, or to work for equality. You have to sign up for the revolution, and the revolution starts with you.

It's right there in black and white: to claim to be for Critical Social Justice, one must interrogate themselves and society, and one must "act strategically" from that awareness—a critical consciousness—"in ways that challenge social injustice."
This is consistent with the demand, reaching all the way back to Max Horkheimer's description in 1937 that a Critical Theory must be applicable by social activism, and it is a core demand of Critical Social Justice today. It also extends that demand to a program Spanish Catholics in the fifteenth century would have been proud of.

Hence, fifth, and last (so as not to belabor the point), the last bullet point on their list admonishes that to sign up for Critical Social Justice requires a commitment; a lifelong commitment to an ongoing process that results from a personal awakening to a critical consciousness. That is, it's a faith. It's a faith that requires not only penitence but evangelism, since it can't yet apply torquemada (except metaphorically and applied in a social fashion) (torquemada viittaa inkvisitioon).

Critical Social Justice is a kind of religious worldview that seeks to enforce Critical Social Justice and produce more activists for Critical Social Justice. These will be critical theorists and activists who claim to be about social justice when they are, in fact, about critical theories. Rather than a God to worship and serve, the upside-down postmodern faith of Critical Social Justice offers an Enemy—systemic injustice—to destroy, and whatever remains or gets erected in place of what it deconstructs will then be subject to the same fate.

This probably isn't what you think you're defending when you, as a good and decent person who cares about people and the problems of society, defend social justice. Most of the people who support it have no idea because they, like most normal people, have never read the primary literature. The fact is, Critical Social Justice is not about social justice at all; it has stolen social justice from the people who care about it and need it most.

I therefore propose that the enemy we face is not social justice, though it will tend to wear this name as a suit of armor. We should clearly and consistently name this thing Critical Social Justice, and it will be up to us to learn to tell the difference. Again, enemy it is—of all free societies and the overwhelming majority of those who would live within them. I therefore further propose that we should use this name, learn to differentiate the two, and hold the Critical Social Justice ideology to its commitments: an anti-liberal fusion of postmodern theory and Neo-Marxist Critical Theory. Then we can be clear that Critical Social Justice has co-opted the very idea of social justice from those who wish to promote its true commitments, as they, themselves, openly recognize, and we can do something about it.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/02/naming-enemy-critical-social-justice/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/02/naming-enemy-critical-social-justice/)

Kyllä aika helvetinmoisen paskakakun ovat vasurit rakentaneet. Ja sitten vielä yksi tuon paskakakun innokkaimmista kiillottajista on edennyt jo Suomen sisäministeriksi... Ja valtamedia jatkuvasti esittää tuon kannattajat jonkinlaisina todellisina "sosiaalisen oikeuden" tavoittelijoina ja suurina esikuvina. On tämä hienoa.

Ongelma voi juurikin olla tuo, että tämäntapaiset teoriapläjäykset eivät oikein leviä suuren yleisön keskuuteen. Christopher Rufohan on lähtenyt liikkeelle vähän eri taktiikalla, eli hän pyrkii tuomaan esiin sitä, mitä tuo sonta tarkoittaa käytännössä. Viimeisin esimerkki alla, kannattaa lukea koko ketju (kohteena yllättäen opettajat):

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Tuosta oli juttu myös NY Postissa:

https://nypost.com/2020/12/17/indoctrinating-an-entire-school-system-in-pc-racism/ (https://nypost.com/2020/12/17/indoctrinating-an-entire-school-system-in-pc-racism/)

En nyt tuosta ala enää lainailemaan, samat asiat käydään kootusti läpi tuossa twiitti-ketjussa.

Laitetaan nyt tämäkin tähän, ei ehkä kuitenkin niin irrallisena asiana...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 23.12.2020, 20:54:18
Kannattaa nykyhallituksen aikana olla Suomessakin aika tarkkana, mitä sitä siellä koulussa oikein puuhaillaan.  >:(

Pitkä ketju.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 24.12.2020, 19:12:21
Kouluista kun tuli puhe... Tuossa twiittiketjussa tulee hyvin kuvattua vihavasurien normitaktiikka, ja normilopputulos.

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Pistetään nyt tämäkin...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.12.2020, 12:52:16
Nimimerkillä joutuu tämäkin kirjoittelemaan... Kirjoitusta lukiessa ymmärtää jälleen, miten näppärästi perinteinen, läpimätä valtaeliitti nykyään käyttää hyväkseen / tekee yhteistyötä noiden mielipuolien kanssa. Mitäänhän tuo ensiksi mainittu porukka ei halua enempää kuin totalitarismia ja sensuuria.

Ei ole muuten ensimmäinen kirjoitus, jonka perusteella saa vähän sellaisen käsityksen, että nuo CSJ-sotilaat ovat vähän kuin narkkareita, ja huumeena on kuviteltu moraalisen ja sosiaalisen ylemmyyden tunto. Yleisempi kuvaus taitaa kuitenkin olla myös tässäkin kirjoituksessa esiin nostettu kiihkouskovaisuus.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/university-woke-mission-field-dissident-womens-studies-phd-speaks-out/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/university-woke-mission-field-dissident-womens-studies-phd-speaks-out/)

QuoteThe University as the Woke Mission Field: A Dissident Women's Studies Ph.D. Speaks Out

I have a Ph.D. in Women's Studies, but I'm not woke anymore. I write under a pseudonym because, if my colleagues were to find out about my criticisms of this field, I would be unable to find any employment in academia. That someone who critiques the axioms of a field of study feels compelled to write under an assumed name tells you everything you need to know about the authoritarianism underpinning this ideology. I no longer believe that the fundamental ideas of Women's Studies, and of Critical Social Justice more generally, describe reality; they are at best partial explanations—hyperbolic ideology, not fact-based analysis. I have seen this ideology up close and seen how it consumes and even destroys people, while dehumanizing anyone who dissents.

I'm sad to say it, but I believe that Critical Social Justice ideology—if not beaten in the war of ideas—will destroy the liberal foundation of American society. (...) Far from being counter-cultural, Critical Social Justice ideology is now the cultural mainstream. A diverse spectrum of liberals, libertarians, conservatives, and all others who, to put it bluntly, want the American constitution to continue to serve as the basis for our society have to team up to prevent this ideology from destroying our country.

I became "woke" around 2003, so I have nearly two decades of experience with Critical Social Justice ideology. (...)

(...) I naively assumed that professors are among the smartest people in the country, and I had no idea that the professoriate is heavily slanted to the ideological left. I now understand that Critical Social Justice professors are evangelists for their faith and the university is their mission field. Their goal is to take young students—inexperienced, eager to succeed—unmoor them from any faith tradition they might have, even if it's just American civics, and replace that with Critical Social Justice ideology. And, for the most part, these professors succeed. They are, on the whole, likable people—energetic, personable, and caring.

My first encounters with Critical Social Justice came during the feminism unit of this course, which included works by Simone de Beauvoir, Betty Friedan, Angela Davis, (...) Critical Social Justice ideas felt intoxicating, like stumbling onto a portal into a new world. I felt like a detective, with my newly developing critical consciousness understanding society for the first time—all the oppression, the sexism, racism, the evils of capitalism, and so on. It felt righteous, like I was part of a counter-cultural movement, a vanguard helping to bend the arc of the moral universe toward justice.

(...)

My foray into radical politics ended around the time I started a master's program in creative writing. (...)

When I began my Ph.D. program in 2013 at a highly ranked university, I began to see that something about my new colleagues was different from what I remembered about my colleagues just a few years earlier. (...)

I realized that Critical Social Justice was no longer a fringe intellectual field of study, but a real force that was reshaping the university. (...) Around this time, I became extremely disturbed when, while serving on a committee that gave writing awards, I was attacked by other committee members for judging on merit, for not taking into account skin color or gender.

Yet I don't think I fully understand the authoritarian aspects of woke ideology until after Trump won the 2016 election. In late 2016 and early 2017, I witnessed shocking behavior from my colleagues, who began attacking Republicans, white people, conservatives, and Christians as oppressors. They attacked free speech, saying that some people did not deserve a platform because they were engaging in "hate speech." I argued that there isn't a clear definition of what constitutes hate speech; and that the constitution protects all speech, save for incitement to imminent lawless action. For saying this, I was attacked as stupid, a bad person, a "right-winger." Early in Trump's administration, one of my colleagues said that political violence was justified as a response to his "evil" policies. While I'm no fan of Trump, I oppose violence—a basic principle I thought that all Americans shared. It was in this context that I became disillusioned with the ideology in which I had been immersed for years.

I decided to seek out and try to understand other points of view, so I read books by authors to whom I had never been exposed, such as F.A. Hayek, Ronald Bork, Jonathan Haidt, Thomas Sowell, and others. I began to read and listen to conservative, classically liberal, and libertarian thinkers—people whose ideas I had never encountered in all my years of so-called "higher" education. I listened with an open mind, and I didn't see any hatred from these thinkers. On the contrary, I discovered carefully reasoned, evidence-based arguments that had much greater explanatory abilities than anything I'd read in the Critical Social Justice literature.

I realized that Critical Social Justice ideology is not only intellectually vacuous; it is downright dangerous, and that the reason it has captivated so many minds is not because of the strength of its ideas, but because it has succeeded in silencing more reasonable and time-tested principles. (...) Sadly, American universities are, for the most part, not marketplaces of ideas, but mere echo chambers.

It is an obvious fact that all civilizations must pass on their values to the young; if they do not, or if the young are taught different values, then the civilization cannot sustain itself. (...) Suffice it to say that our universities are so infected with Critical Social Justice ideology that they are probably not salvageable at this point.

(...)

However, people committed to liberal values have many significant disadvantages in this fight. (...) Liberals are committed to Enlightenment values of reasoned debate, pursuit of truth, the scientific method, fact-based analysis, and treating people as individuals, not as groups. In contrast, the woke view these Enlightenment values as a white supremacist project; wokeness advances primarily through underhanded tactics: histrionic open letters that accuse ideological opponents as traumatizing and even threatening the very existence of people of color, cancel culture, flash mobs, protests that sometimes devolve into riots, and so forth. Worse, the entrenchment of Critical Social Justice ideology in academia, mass and social media companies, philanthropic foundations, corporate human resources departments, federal and state administrative bureaucracies, and Silicon Valley—combined with surveillance technology—points toward the emergence of a social credit system similar to what exists now in China. Liberals, in short, are bringing the proverbial knife to a gun fight. But we must fight. There is no other choice.

In closing, I want to offer some thoughts on how to defeat Critical Social Justice ideology. If we want to understand why this ideology is winning over the young, we have to understand its appeal. American culture is becoming increasingly secular, which means that more young people don't have a faith tradition, and social justice ideology is, as many have discussed, filling a religious void. The woke have a messianic complex, a (if you'll excuse the pun, millenarian) goal to remake society, and view anyone who is opposed to their project not as simply having a different worldview, but as evil. (...)

There is so little viewpoint diversity in academia that students don't even realize that what they are being taught is an ideology, not factual analysis. As Niall Ferguson accurately put it, "North American academia is in the grip of a hideous mania, a cross between the early-modern witch craze and Mao's Cultural Revolution, in which implacable zealots conduct grotesque show trials, innocent individuals have their reputations, careers and sanity destroyed, and everyone else cowers, terrified that they will be next to be 'canceled.'" (Source: a blurb from Quillette's new book, Panics and Persecutions). The American public university system—especially humanities and social sciences—is a cancer on society, as it is teaching students to hate their country and its core values. This is not to say that there shouldn't be academic critiques of the country. On the contrary, critiques help to improve society. But we have reached a point where there are hardly any academics left to transmit the basic principles of the country.

(...)

One of the most urgent needs is the development of a grassroots movement for intellectual diversity on campus, spearheaded by students, alumni, parents, and concerned citizens. I hope that existing conservative, centrist, or libertarian organizations can help to facilitate this movement by providing organizational and logistical support at campuses throughout the country. Everyone should take a close look at their state's public universities' Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity initiatives to see if intellectual diversity is included. If it is not, then the obvious first step is to advocate for the inclusion of intellectual diversity. (...)

If America has any chance of continuing the classical liberal values upon which it was founded, then students who have a commitment to these values have to enter the teaching profession—as doctoral students in education, as administrators, and as public school teachers. (...) Critical race theory also needs to be resisted because it, as its own proponents assert, "questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law." (Delgado and Stefancic, Critical Race Theory: An Introduction). (...)

Another important project should be the revival of Western civilization and Great Books courses, at all levels of education, but most critically in the universities. (...) An excellent example of a Western civ curriculum can be found in the James Madison program in American Ideals and Institutions at Princeton University, which is dedicated to "exploring enduring questions of American constitutional law and Western political thought." Another avenue is to look into funding institutes for education in Western civilization as a new department at extant colleges and universities.

I would love to see crowd-sourced funds used to construct a beautiful classical building adjacent to one of the ugliest college campuses in the country, preferably one composed entirely of postwar Brutalist buildings. (...)

In the long term, it is going to be necessary to create more universities devoted to classical education, not indoctrination into Critical Social Justice ideology, as well as more K-12 private and charter schools in the classical tradition because university schools of education have been training "social justice" educators for decades now, so Critical Social Justice ideology is now in the K-12 public schools. (...)

(...) Far from being a bastion of white supremacy, America's liberal values are what have attracted people from all countries to undergo great hardship to come here, precisely because this is one of the few places in which ordinary people can exercise their talents to achieve a standard of living that is impossible in most of the world. It is my fervent hope that more American college students—especially the "woke" who rail against their own country as evil—would be required to spend a semester abroad in a developing country in order to gain some much-needed perspective on the struggles people face who were not fortunate enough to be born into such an "oppressive" place as America.

Lastly, I have focused mostly on academia and education because this is the sector I know best, but I strongly urge everyone, from all walks of life, to embrace your sense of humor (a quality that is conspicuously absent in woke culture). Wokeness should continue to relentlessly mocked and parodied through meme culture (Andrew Doyle's Titania McGrath is a great example). Just as important: Be courageous. Stand up for the beliefs that have made America a great country. (...) I think a lot of liberals, like me, generally, if not naively, assumed that the liberal values underpinning America would simply continue throughout our lives, but these values are under attack and they need to be vigorously and unapologetically defended. Our civilization is at stake and the hour is late.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Muhmutti on 25.12.2020, 13:10:19
Olis ihan jees, jos näihin englanninkielisiin artikkeleihin saisi sen suomennoksen. Ollaan kuitenkin Suomessa eikä jenkeissä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 25.12.2020, 14:47:47
Quote from: Muhmutti on 25.12.2020, 13:10:19
Olis ihan jees, jos näihin englanninkielisiin artikkeleihin saisi sen suomennoksen. Ollaan kuitenkin Suomessa eikä jenkeissä.

Googlella voi tarvittaessa kääntää. Toimii Suomessakin.  Muunkielinen artikkeli on mukava lukea sillä muulla kielellä. Ei katoa mitään käännöksessä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Muhmutti on 25.12.2020, 16:03:45
Täysin eri mieltä. Tykkään lukea artikkelit suomeksi. Minusta on kohteliasta ja hyviin tapoihin kuuluvaa, että artikkelin lainaaja kääntää artikkelin. Tai edes referoi tärkeimmät kohdat suomeksi. En usko, että kovin moni olisi mielissään esim. portugalin tai vaikka kreikankielisistä artikkeleista.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 25.12.2020, 16:44:24
Quote from: Muhmutti on 25.12.2020, 16:03:45
Täysin eri mieltä. Tykkään lukea artikkelit suomeksi. Minusta on kohteliasta ja hyviin tapoihin kuuluvaa, että artikkelin lainaaja kääntää artikkelin. Tai edes referoi tärkeimmät kohdat suomeksi. En usko, että kovin moni olisi mielissään esim. portugalin tai vaikka kreikankielisistä artikkeleista.

Kuule. Näivettyy homma lopullisesti. Ei kenelläkään ole aikaa nyhvätä jotain englanninkielistä artikkelia suomeksi, kun suurin osa ihmisistä lukee englantia. Ei täällä olla kääntämistä harrastamassa. Sille puuhalle on omat sivustonsa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.12.2020, 16:49:09
Quote from: P on 25.12.2020, 16:44:24
Quote from: Muhmutti on 25.12.2020, 16:03:45
Täysin eri mieltä. Tykkään lukea artikkelit suomeksi. Minusta on kohteliasta ja hyviin tapoihin kuuluvaa, että artikkelin lainaaja kääntää artikkelin. Tai edes referoi tärkeimmät kohdat suomeksi. En usko, että kovin moni olisi mielissään esim. portugalin tai vaikka kreikankielisistä artikkeleista.

Kuule. Näivettyy homma lopullisesti. Ei kenelläkään ole aikaa nyhvätä jotain englanninkielistä artikkelia suomeksi, kun suurin osa ihmisistä lukee englantia. Ei täällä olla kääntämistä harrastamassa. Sille puuhalle on omat sivustonsa.

Tällä voi kääntää artikkelit jonkinlaiselle tönkkösuomelle, joiden tuominen tänne vain sotkisi ketjuja:

https://translate.google.fi/?hl=fi&tab=wT&sl=en&tl=fi&op=translate
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.12.2020, 23:35:32
En tiedä, oliko täällä jo viime jouluna, mutta joka tapauksessa...

[tweet]1209596831740649472[/tweet]
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 26.12.2020, 00:15:32
Quote from: zupi on 25.12.2020, 23:35:32
En tiedä, oliko täällä jo viime jouluna, mutta joka tapauksessa...

[tweet]1209596831740649472[/tweet]

Titania McGrath on Keijo Kaarisade-tyyppinen parodiatili jota ei pidä ottaa vakavasti vaan huumorilla. Lähinnä mielenkiintoista seurata ottaako joku todellinen intersektionalisti-wokeisti hänen twiittinsä tosissaan.

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titania_McGrath
Titania McGrath (@TitaniaMcGrath) is a parody Twitter account created and run by comedian and Spiked columnist Andrew Doyle.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 26.12.2020, 11:21:24
Quote from: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 26.12.2020, 00:15:32
(...) Lähinnä mielenkiintoista seurata ottaako joku todellinen intersektionalisti-wokeisti hänen twiittinsä tosissaan.

(...)

Titanian "ennustuksilla" on ikävä kyllä tapana käydä toteen. Eiköhän sitä ensi jouluun mennessä rovion lieskat jo iske joulupukin parran korkeudella. Onhan tuo joulupukki nyt kaikessa valkoisuudessaan ja miehisyydessään vain vähän liian herkullinen kohde woke-porukalle. Tänä vuonna vielä pukki säästyi, kun ei päässyt koronan vuoksi liikkeelle...

Titanian ennustuksiin liittyen alla yksi artikkeli, mihin jo viitattiinkin tuossa aiemmassa Titanian toteutuneiden ennustusten twitter-ketjussa. Maailman ehkä arvostetuin lääketieteellinen julkaisu on siis julkaissut artikkelin, jonka mukaan sukupuoli pitää poistaa syntymätodistuksista "haitallisena"...  :facepalm: "Tiedettä" kun tehdään nykyisin some-tykkäysten, ja some-kritiikin, pohjalta. Ja kaikki varmasti tietää, ketkä sitä somea hallitsee.

https://quillette.com/2020/12/23/on-sex-and-gender-the-new-england-journal-of-medicine-has-abandoned-its-scientific-mission/ (https://quillette.com/2020/12/23/on-sex-and-gender-the-new-england-journal-of-medicine-has-abandoned-its-scientific-mission/)

QuoteOn Sex and Gender, The New England Journal of Medicine Has Abandoned Its Scientific Mission

Two years ago, "Titania McGrath," whose satirical Twitter account regularly skewers the ideological excesses of social-justice culture, suggested that "we should remove biological sex from birth certificates altogether to prevent any more mistakes." The joke (obvious to those who follow the culture wars closely, but perhaps obscure to those who don't) was directed at gender activists who insist that male and female designations "assigned at birth" are misleading (and even dangerous), since they may misrepresent a person's true "gender identity"—that internally felt soul-like quality that supposedly transcends such superficial physical indicia as gonads and genitalia.

But the line between satire and sincerity has become blurry on this issue. Last Thursday, the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), widely considered to be the world's most prestigious medical journal, published an article entitled Failed Assignments—Rethinking Sex Designations on Birth Certificates, arguing that (in the words of the abstract) "sex designations on birth certificates offer no clinical utility, and they can be harmful for intersex and transgender people." The resemblance to Titania McGrath's 2018-era Twitter feed is uncanny. Two of the authors are doctors. The third, Jessica A. Clarke, is a law school professor who seeks to remake our legal system so as to "recognize nonbinary gender identities or eliminate unnecessary legal sex classifications."

The very idea of "a dichotomous sex-classification system" is dubious, the authors believe. And even if such a system were preserved, they write, it should be based "on self-identification at an older age, rather than on a medical evaluation at birth." Sex designations on birth certificates, it is argued, "offer no clinical utility; they serve only legal—not medical—goals."

(...)

While such arguments seem inconsistent with common sense (not to mention the daily diagnostic and treatment protocols employed by millions of doctors around the world), the fact that editors at such a prestigious journal as NEJM have chosen to assign credence to these arguments leaves us no choice but to unpack them.

(...)

Not only is biological sex a clinically significant factor in medicine, in many cases it is among the most important factors that a patient presents—even putting aside such obvious examples as prostate and uterine cancer, which afflict only males or females respectively.

(...) They state plainly that "efforts to bring sex and gender into the mainstream of modern medical research, practice, and education are urgently needed, as the lack of appreciation for sex and gender differences harms both women and men."

So given this baseline of widely accepted medical knowledge about the important differences between the biologically male and female populations, why did NEJM publish Failed Assignments
—Rethinking Sex Designations on Birth Certificates?

To help answer that question, consider the case of another misleading article: Lise Eliot's appreciative Nature review of The Gendered Brain, a 2019 book by Gina Rippon that inaccurately claimed observed sex differences in the brains of males and females are largely a "myth" that reflects "neurosexist" bigotry. In a published response to Eliot's credulous take on Rippon's book, several experts reminded Nature's readers that "a variety of neurological and psychiatric conditions demonstrate robust differences between the sexes in their incidence, symptoms, progression and response to treatment... When properly documented and studied, sex and gender differences are the gateway to precision medicine."

Now consider the different social-media imprints of these two Nature articles, as quantified by the website Altmetric, which tracks the degree to which scientific literature is reported by news outlets, blogs, and social-media users. As the accompanying image shows, the attention paid to Eliot's positive review of Rippon's dubious book on "Neurosexism" dwarfed the sober and factual debunking of it by a ratio exceeding 50:1.

Indeed, Nature's original "Neurosexism" piece immediately went viral on social media. It showed up in eight news outlets, five blogs, 6,543 tweets, 70 Facebook pages, and received mention on Wikipedia, Reddit, and three video sites. And why wouldn't it? The idea that there are no sex differences in human neuroanatomy—that we are all blank slates, so to speak, and so any observable variation must be the result of cultural conditioning or sexist bigotry—always plays well in the lay media, as it accords well with the expansive progressive understanding of sexism. Meanwhile, the actual facts, boring as they may be to most social media users—that "a variety of neurological and psychiatric conditions demonstrate robust differences between the sexes in their incidence, symptoms, progression and response to treatment"—barely received any notice whatsoever.

And here we get to what has changed in recent years. Historically, scientific journalists and publishers worked within a professional milieu in which, with few exceptions, the judgments that mattered most were those rendered by other experts. But that's now changed, thanks to social media. While the editors at such publications as Nature and NEJM may be excellent scientists, they also have the same appetite for praise and acceptance as everyone else. And if social media is telling them that a certain kind of article will mark them as enlightened, surely that will affect their choice of what to publish.

Not to mention, their choice of what to unpublish. On November 17th, Nature Communications published an article titled The Association Between Early Career Informal Mentorship in Academic Collaborations and Junior Author Performance, whose peer-reviewed results challenged the fashionable idea that same-sex mentoring arrangements help younger women. Needless to say, Twitter erupted in fury, leading to a slew of revisions that editors hoped would mollify critics. But that didn't keep critics at bay. And so this week the article was retracted entirely, with the editors abjectly pledging to now "reflect on our editorial processes and strength[en] our determination in supporting diversity, equity and inclusion in research." It's hard not to read this as an admission that the publication will no longer even pretend to ignore ideological fashion in rendering its editorial judgments.

(...) The November 17th Nature paper was retracted despite being approved, in its multiple forms, by not one but two peer-review teams—while the NEJM and similarly prestigious publications now publish articles about sex and gender that plainly defy basic biological principles of sexual dimorphism understood even by small children.

(...)

As a biologist, I understand the terms that are being used here. But as a journalist, I get the sense that the authors' primary goal is to overwhelm readers with specialized language that suggests an individual's sex is the output of some complex equation (or, as the authors put it, "a function of multiple biologic processes"). Such language disguises the plain fact that sex is defined functionally based on the type of gamete (sex cell) that forms the basis for an individual's reproductive anatomy. Males comprise the sex that produces small, motile sex cells (sperm); while females comprise the sex that produces large, sessile sex cells (ova). It doesn't matter whether any individual can actually, or eventually does, produce gametes. An individual human being's sex is determined by their primary sex organs, and an individual's sex is accurately recorded over 99.98 percent of the time using genitals as a proxy for underlying gonad type.

(...)

While I have no reason to dispute the statistics cited here, it is stunning that this kind of logic would be featured in a scientific journal. "Identity"—including "gender identity"—is a socially constructed phenomenon that says nothing about one's biological sex. And while it has always been known that some individuals are affected by gender dysphoria, the idea that biology shall be superseded by self-conceived gender identity—not only in the social and legal spheres, but also in some quasi-scientific sense—is a novel claim that would have seemed bizarre to everyone (including trans activists themselves) just a few years ago. Twitter and Tumblr are full of people who insist on the truth of this claim, of course. But they generally do so as activists and moralists—not as scientists.

(...)

Even "Titania McGrath" could scarcely have known how quickly such ideological fads would metastasize into medical literature. And it should be a source of shame for the editors of the NEJM that today's published content now reads as a plagiarized rehash of yesterday's farce.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Muhmutti on 26.12.2020, 12:13:27
Quote from: zupi on 26.12.2020, 11:21:24
Quote from: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 26.12.2020, 00:15:32
(...) Lähinnä mielenkiintoista seurata ottaako joku todellinen intersektionalisti-wokeisti hänen twiittinsä tosissaan.

(...)

Titanian "ennustuksilla" on ikävä kyllä tapana käydä toteen. Eiköhän sitä ensi jouluun mennessä rovion lieskat jo iske joulupukin parran korkeudella. Onhan tuo joulupukki nyt kaikessa valkoisuudessaan ja miehisyydessään vain vähän liian herkullinen kohde woke-porukalle. Tänä vuonna vielä pukki säästyi, kun ei päässyt koronan vuoksi liikkeelle...

Titanian ennustuksiin liittyen alla yksi artikkeli, mihin jo viitattiinkin tuossa aiemmassa Titanian toteutuneiden ennustusten twitter-ketjussa. Maailman ehkä arvostetuin lääketieteellinen julkaisu on siis julkaissut artikkelin, jonka mukaan sukupuoli pitää poistaa syntymätodistuksista "haitallisena"...  :facepalm: "Tiedettä" kun tehdään nykyisin some-tykkäysten, ja some-kritiikin, pohjalta. Ja kaikki varmasti tietää, ketkä sitä somea hallitsee.

https://quillette.com/2020/12/23/on-sex-and-gender-the-new-england-journal-of-medicine-has-abandoned-its-scientific-mission/ (https://quillette.com/2020/12/23/on-sex-and-gender-the-new-england-journal-of-medicine-has-abandoned-its-scientific-mission/)

QuoteOn Sex and Gender, The New England Journal of Medicine Has Abandoned Its Scientific Mission

Two years ago, "Titania McGrath," whose satirical Twitter account regularly skewers the ideological excesses of social-justice culture, suggested that "we should remove biological sex from birth certificates altogether to prevent any more mistakes." The joke (obvious to those who follow the culture wars closely, but perhaps obscure to those who don't) was directed at gender activists who insist that male and female designations "assigned at birth" are misleading (and even dangerous), since they may misrepresent a person's true "gender identity"—that internally felt soul-like quality that supposedly transcends such superficial physical indicia as gonads and genitalia.

But the line between satire and sincerity has become blurry on this issue. Last Thursday, the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), widely considered to be the world's most prestigious medical journal, published an article entitled Failed Assignments—Rethinking Sex Designations on Birth Certificates, arguing that (in the words of the abstract) "sex designations on birth certificates offer no clinical utility, and they can be harmful for intersex and transgender people." The resemblance to Titania McGrath's 2018-era Twitter feed is uncanny. Two of the authors are doctors. The third, Jessica A. Clarke, is a law school professor who seeks to remake our legal system so as to "recognize nonbinary gender identities or eliminate unnecessary legal sex classifications."

The very idea of "a dichotomous sex-classification system" is dubious, the authors believe. And even if such a system were preserved, they write, it should be based "on self-identification at an older age, rather than on a medical evaluation at birth." Sex designations on birth certificates, it is argued, "offer no clinical utility; they serve only legal—not medical—goals."

(...)

While such arguments seem inconsistent with common sense (not to mention the daily diagnostic and treatment protocols employed by millions of doctors around the world), the fact that editors at such a prestigious journal as NEJM have chosen to assign credence to these arguments leaves us no choice but to unpack them.

(...)

Not only is biological sex a clinically significant factor in medicine, in many cases it is among the most important factors that a patient presents—even putting aside such obvious examples as prostate and uterine cancer, which afflict only males or females respectively.

(...) They state plainly that "efforts to bring sex and gender into the mainstream of modern medical research, practice, and education are urgently needed, as the lack of appreciation for sex and gender differences harms both women and men."

So given this baseline of widely accepted medical knowledge about the important differences between the biologically male and female populations, why did NEJM publish Failed Assignments
—Rethinking Sex Designations on Birth Certificates?

To help answer that question, consider the case of another misleading article: Lise Eliot's appreciative Nature review of The Gendered Brain, a 2019 book by Gina Rippon that inaccurately claimed observed sex differences in the brains of males and females are largely a "myth" that reflects "neurosexist" bigotry. In a published response to Eliot's credulous take on Rippon's book, several experts reminded Nature's readers that "a variety of neurological and psychiatric conditions demonstrate robust differences between the sexes in their incidence, symptoms, progression and response to treatment... When properly documented and studied, sex and gender differences are the gateway to precision medicine."

Now consider the different social-media imprints of these two Nature articles, as quantified by the website Altmetric, which tracks the degree to which scientific literature is reported by news outlets, blogs, and social-media users. As the accompanying image shows, the attention paid to Eliot's positive review of Rippon's dubious book on "Neurosexism" dwarfed the sober and factual debunking of it by a ratio exceeding 50:1.

Indeed, Nature's original "Neurosexism" piece immediately went viral on social media. It showed up in eight news outlets, five blogs, 6,543 tweets, 70 Facebook pages, and received mention on Wikipedia, Reddit, and three video sites. And why wouldn't it? The idea that there are no sex differences in human neuroanatomy—that we are all blank slates, so to speak, and so any observable variation must be the result of cultural conditioning or sexist bigotry—always plays well in the lay media, as it accords well with the expansive progressive understanding of sexism. Meanwhile, the actual facts, boring as they may be to most social media users—that "a variety of neurological and psychiatric conditions demonstrate robust differences between the sexes in their incidence, symptoms, progression and response to treatment"—barely received any notice whatsoever.

And here we get to what has changed in recent years. Historically, scientific journalists and publishers worked within a professional milieu in which, with few exceptions, the judgments that mattered most were those rendered by other experts. But that's now changed, thanks to social media. While the editors at such publications as Nature and NEJM may be excellent scientists, they also have the same appetite for praise and acceptance as everyone else. And if social media is telling them that a certain kind of article will mark them as enlightened, surely that will affect their choice of what to publish.

Not to mention, their choice of what to unpublish. On November 17th, Nature Communications published an article titled The Association Between Early Career Informal Mentorship in Academic Collaborations and Junior Author Performance, whose peer-reviewed results challenged the fashionable idea that same-sex mentoring arrangements help younger women. Needless to say, Twitter erupted in fury, leading to a slew of revisions that editors hoped would mollify critics. But that didn't keep critics at bay. And so this week the article was retracted entirely, with the editors abjectly pledging to now "reflect on our editorial processes and strength[en] our determination in supporting diversity, equity and inclusion in research." It's hard not to read this as an admission that the publication will no longer even pretend to ignore ideological fashion in rendering its editorial judgments.

(...) The November 17th Nature paper was retracted despite being approved, in its multiple forms, by not one but two peer-review teams—while the NEJM and similarly prestigious publications now publish articles about sex and gender that plainly defy basic biological principles of sexual dimorphism understood even by small children.

(...)

As a biologist, I understand the terms that are being used here. But as a journalist, I get the sense that the authors' primary goal is to overwhelm readers with specialized language that suggests an individual's sex is the output of some complex equation (or, as the authors put it, "a function of multiple biologic processes"). Such language disguises the plain fact that sex is defined functionally based on the type of gamete (sex cell) that forms the basis for an individual's reproductive anatomy. Males comprise the sex that produces small, motile sex cells (sperm); while females comprise the sex that produces large, sessile sex cells (ova). It doesn't matter whether any individual can actually, or eventually does, produce gametes. An individual human being's sex is determined by their primary sex organs, and an individual's sex is accurately recorded over 99.98 percent of the time using genitals as a proxy for underlying gonad type.

(...)

While I have no reason to dispute the statistics cited here, it is stunning that this kind of logic would be featured in a scientific journal. "Identity"—including "gender identity"—is a socially constructed phenomenon that says nothing about one's biological sex. And while it has always been known that some individuals are affected by gender dysphoria, the idea that biology shall be superseded by self-conceived gender identity—not only in the social and legal spheres, but also in some quasi-scientific sense—is a novel claim that would have seemed bizarre to everyone (including trans activists themselves) just a few years ago. Twitter and Tumblr are full of people who insist on the truth of this claim, of course. But they generally do so as activists and moralists—not as scientists.

(...)

Even "Titania McGrath" could scarcely have known how quickly such ideological fads would metastasize into medical literature. And it should be a source of shame for the editors of the NEJM that today's published content now reads as a plagiarized rehash of yesterday's farce.

Sukupuolesta ja sukupuolesta New England Journal of Medicine on hylännyt tieteellisen tehtävänsä

Kaksi vuotta sitten "Titania McGrath", jonka satiirinen Twitter-tili vääristää säännöllisesti sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden kulttuurin ideologisia ylilyöntejä, ehdotti, että "meidän pitäisi poistaa biologinen sukupuoli kokonaan syntymätodistuksista uusien virheiden estämiseksi". Vitsi (ilmeinen niille, jotka seuraavat kulttuurisotia tarkasti, mutta ehkä hämärtyvät niille, jotka eivät seuraa) kohdistui sukupuoliaktivisteihin, jotka väittävät, että "syntymän yhteydessä määritetyt" mies- ja naisnimitykset ovat harhaanjohtavia (ja jopa vaarallisia), koska ne voi vääristää henkilön todellisen "sukupuoli-identiteetin" - sisäisesti tuntemansa sielun kaltaisen laadun, joka oletettavasti ylittää sellaiset pinnalliset fyysiset merkit kuin sukurauhaset ja sukuelimet.

Raja satiirin ja vilpittömyyden välillä on kuitenkin hämärtynyt tässä asiassa. Viime torstaina New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), jota pidetään yleisesti maailman arvostetuimpana lääketieteellisenä aikakauslehtenä, julkaisi artikkelin nimeltä Failed Assignments - Rethinking Sex Designations on Birth Certificates, väittäen (abstraktin sanan mukaan) "sex syntymätodistusten nimitykset eivät tarjoa mitään kliinistä hyötyä, ja ne voivat olla haitallisia intersukupuolisille ja transsukupuolisille ihmisille. " Samankaltaisuus Titania McGrathin 2018-aikakauden Twitter-syötteeseen on surkea. Kaksi tekijää on lääkäreitä. Kolmas, Jessica A. Clarke, on lakikoulun professori, joka pyrkii uudistamaan oikeusjärjestelmäämme "tunnistamaan ei-binääriset sukupuoli-identiteetit tai poistamaan tarpeettomat lailliset sukupuoliluokitukset".

Ajatus "kaksisuuntaisesta sukupuoliluokittelujärjestelmästä" on kyseenalainen, kirjoittajat uskovat. Ja vaikka tällainen järjestelmä säilyisi, he kirjoittavat, sen pitäisi perustua "vanhempana olevaan itsetunnistukseen kuin syntymän lääketieteelliseen arviointiin". Sukupuolenimitykset syntymätodistuksissa väitetään "tarjoavan mitään kliinistä hyötyä; ne palvelevat vain laillisia - ei lääketieteellisiä - tavoitteita. "

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Vaikka tällaiset väitteet näyttävät olevan ristiriidassa terveen järjen kanssa (puhumattakaan päivittäisistä diagnoosi- ja hoitoprotokollista, joita miljoonat lääkärit ympäri maailmaa käyttävät), tosiasia, että niin arvostetun lehden kuin NEJM: n toimittajat ovat päättäneet osoittaa uskottavuuden näille argumenteille, ei jätä meille mitään vaihtoehto, mutta purkaa ne.

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Biologinen sukupuoli ei ole vain kliinisesti merkittävä tekijä lääketieteessä, vaan monissa tapauksissa se on yksi tärkeimmistä tekijöistä, joita potilas esittää - jopa jättämällä sivuun sellaiset ilmeiset esimerkit kuin eturauhasen ja kohdun syöpä, jotka kärsivät vain miehistä tai naisista.

(...) He toteavat selvästi, että "ponnisteluja sukupuolen ja sukupuolen tuomiseksi nykyajan lääketieteellisen tutkimuksen, käytännön ja koulutuksen valtavirtaan tarvitaan kiireellisesti, koska sukupuoleen ja sukupuolieroihin liittyvän arvostuksen puute vahingoittaa sekä naisia ​​että miehiä".

Joten kun otetaan huomioon tämä yleisesti hyväksytyn lääketieteellisen tietämyksen tärkeät erot biologisesti mies- ja naispopulaatioiden välillä, miksi NEJM julkaisi epäonnistuneita tehtäviä - sukupuolenimitysten uudelleen miettiminen syntymätodistuksissa?

Auta vastaamaan tähän kysymykseen tarkastelemalla toisen harhaanjohtavan artikkelin tapausta: Lise Eliotin kiitollinen Nature Review of The Gendered Brain, Gina Ripponin vuoden 2019 kirja, jossa virheellisesti väitettiin havaitut sukupuolierot miesten ja naisten aivoissa, ovat suurelta osin "myytti", joka heijastaa "neuroseksististä" kiihkoilua. Julkaistussa vastauksessa Eliotin Ripponin kirjan uskottavaan otteeseen useat asiantuntijat muistuttivat Luonnon lukijoita siitä, että "erilaiset neurologiset ja psykiatriset tilat osoittavat sukupuolten välillä voimakkaita eroja esiintyvyydessä, oireissa, etenemisessä ja hoitovasteessa ... Kun ne on asianmukaisesti dokumentoitu ja tutkittu, sukupuoli ja sukupuolierot ovat portti tarkkuuslääketieteeseen. "

Harkitse nyt näiden kahden Luonto-artikkelin eri sosiaalisen median jälkiä, jotka on määritetty Altmetric-verkkosivustolla, joka seuraa, missä määrin tieteellistä kirjallisuutta raportoivat uutiset, blogit ja sosiaalisen median käyttäjät. Kuten oheisesta kuvasta käy ilmi, huomio, joka kiinnitettiin Eliotin positiiviseen arvosteluun Ripponin epäilyttävästä "neuroseksismia käsittelevästä" kirjasta, kääpiö sen raittiista ja tosiasiallisesta purkamisesta suhteella, joka ylitti 50: 1.

Luonnon alkuperäinen "neuroseksismi" -teos todellakin levisi heti sosiaaliseen mediaan. Se ilmestyi kahdeksassa uutiskanavassa, viidessä blogissa, 6543 twiittiä, 70 Facebook-sivulla ja sai maininnan Wikipediassa, Redditissä ja kolmessa videosivustossa. Ja miksi ei? Ajatus siitä, että ihmisen neuroanatomiassa ei ole sukupuolieroja - että me kaikki olemme niin sanottuja tyhjiä pöytiä ja minkä vuoksi kaikkien havaittavien vaihteluiden on oltava kulttuurisen ehdollistamisen tai seksistisen kiihkoilun tulos -, toimii aina maallikkovälineissä, kuten se sopii hyvin laajasti etenevän ymmärryksen seksismistä. Samaan aikaan tosiasiat, jotka ovat ikävystyttäviä useimmille sosiaalisen median käyttäjille - että "erilaiset neurologiset ja psykiatriset tilat osoittavat sukupuolten välillä voimakkaita eroja esiintyvyydessä, oireissa, etenemisessä ja vasteessa hoitoon", tuskin saivat minkäänlaista ilmoitusta .
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Muhmutti on 27.12.2020, 13:01:21
Quote from: zupi on 26.12.2020, 11:21:24
Quote from: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 26.12.2020, 00:15:32
(...) Lähinnä mielenkiintoista seurata ottaako joku todellinen intersektionalisti-wokeisti hänen twiittinsä tosissaan.

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Titanian "ennustuksilla" on ikävä kyllä tapana käydä toteen. Eiköhän sitä ensi jouluun mennessä rovion lieskat jo iske joulupukin parran korkeudella. Onhan tuo joulupukki nyt kaikessa valkoisuudessaan ja miehisyydessään vain vähän liian herkullinen kohde woke-porukalle. Tänä vuonna vielä pukki säästyi, kun ei päässyt koronan vuoksi liikkeelle...

Titanian ennustuksiin liittyen alla yksi artikkeli, mihin jo viitattiinkin tuossa aiemmassa Titanian toteutuneiden ennustusten twitter-ketjussa. Maailman ehkä arvostetuin lääketieteellinen julkaisu on siis julkaissut artikkelin, jonka mukaan sukupuoli pitää poistaa syntymätodistuksista "haitallisena"...  :facepalm: "Tiedettä" kun tehdään nykyisin some-tykkäysten, ja some-kritiikin, pohjalta. Ja kaikki varmasti tietää, ketkä sitä somea hallitsee.

https://quillette.com/2020/12/23/on-sex-and-gender-the-new-england-journal-of-medicine-has-abandoned-its-scientific-mission/ (https://quillette.com/2020/12/23/on-sex-and-gender-the-new-england-journal-of-medicine-has-abandoned-its-scientific-mission/)

QuoteOn Sex and Gender, The New England Journal of Medicine Has Abandoned Its Scientific Mission

Two years ago, "Titania McGrath," whose satirical Twitter account regularly skewers the ideological excesses of social-justice culture, suggested that "we should remove biological sex from birth certificates altogether to prevent any more mistakes." The joke (obvious to those who follow the culture wars closely, but perhaps obscure to those who don't) was directed at gender activists who insist that male and female designations "assigned at birth" are misleading (and even dangerous), since they may misrepresent a person's true "gender identity"—that internally felt soul-like quality that supposedly transcends such superficial physical indicia as gonads and genitalia.

But the line between satire and sincerity has become blurry on this issue. Last Thursday, the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM), widely considered to be the world's most prestigious medical journal, published an article entitled Failed Assignments—Rethinking Sex Designations on Birth Certificates, arguing that (in the words of the abstract) "sex designations on birth certificates offer no clinical utility, and they can be harmful for intersex and transgender people." The resemblance to Titania McGrath's 2018-era Twitter feed is uncanny. Two of the authors are doctors. The third, Jessica A. Clarke, is a law school professor who seeks to remake our legal system so as to "recognize nonbinary gender identities or eliminate unnecessary legal sex classifications."

The very idea of "a dichotomous sex-classification system" is dubious, the authors believe. And even if such a system were preserved, they write, it should be based "on self-identification at an older age, rather than on a medical evaluation at birth." Sex designations on birth certificates, it is argued, "offer no clinical utility; they serve only legal—not medical—goals."

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While such arguments seem inconsistent with common sense (not to mention the daily diagnostic and treatment protocols employed by millions of doctors around the world), the fact that editors at such a prestigious journal as NEJM have chosen to assign credence to these arguments leaves us no choice but to unpack them.

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Not only is biological sex a clinically significant factor in medicine, in many cases it is among the most important factors that a patient presents—even putting aside such obvious examples as prostate and uterine cancer, which afflict only males or females respectively.

(...) They state plainly that "efforts to bring sex and gender into the mainstream of modern medical research, practice, and education are urgently needed, as the lack of appreciation for sex and gender differences harms both women and men."

So given this baseline of widely accepted medical knowledge about the important differences between the biologically male and female populations, why did NEJM publish Failed Assignments
—Rethinking Sex Designations on Birth Certificates?

To help answer that question, consider the case of another misleading article: Lise Eliot's appreciative Nature review of The Gendered Brain, a 2019 book by Gina Rippon that inaccurately claimed observed sex differences in the brains of males and females are largely a "myth" that reflects "neurosexist" bigotry. In a published response to Eliot's credulous take on Rippon's book, several experts reminded Nature's readers that "a variety of neurological and psychiatric conditions demonstrate robust differences between the sexes in their incidence, symptoms, progression and response to treatment... When properly documented and studied, sex and gender differences are the gateway to precision medicine."

Now consider the different social-media imprints of these two Nature articles, as quantified by the website Altmetric, which tracks the degree to which scientific literature is reported by news outlets, blogs, and social-media users. As the accompanying image shows, the attention paid to Eliot's positive review of Rippon's dubious book on "Neurosexism" dwarfed the sober and factual debunking of it by a ratio exceeding 50:1.

Indeed, Nature's original "Neurosexism" piece immediately went viral on social media. It showed up in eight news outlets, five blogs, 6,543 tweets, 70 Facebook pages, and received mention on Wikipedia, Reddit, and three video sites. And why wouldn't it? The idea that there are no sex differences in human neuroanatomy—that we are all blank slates, so to speak, and so any observable variation must be the result of cultural conditioning or sexist bigotry—always plays well in the lay media, as it accords well with the expansive progressive understanding of sexism. Meanwhile, the actual facts, boring as they may be to most social media users—that "a variety of neurological and psychiatric conditions demonstrate robust differences between the sexes in their incidence, symptoms, progression and response to treatment"—barely received any notice whatsoever.

And here we get to what has changed in recent years. Historically, scientific journalists and publishers worked within a professional milieu in which, with few exceptions, the judgments that mattered most were those rendered by other experts. But that's now changed, thanks to social media. While the editors at such publications as Nature and NEJM may be excellent scientists, they also have the same appetite for praise and acceptance as everyone else. And if social media is telling them that a certain kind of article will mark them as enlightened, surely that will affect their choice of what to publish.

Not to mention, their choice of what to unpublish. On November 17th, Nature Communications published an article titled The Association Between Early Career Informal Mentorship in Academic Collaborations and Junior Author Performance, whose peer-reviewed results challenged the fashionable idea that same-sex mentoring arrangements help younger women. Needless to say, Twitter erupted in fury, leading to a slew of revisions that editors hoped would mollify critics. But that didn't keep critics at bay. And so this week the article was retracted entirely, with the editors abjectly pledging to now "reflect on our editorial processes and strength[en] our determination in supporting diversity, equity and inclusion in research." It's hard not to read this as an admission that the publication will no longer even pretend to ignore ideological fashion in rendering its editorial judgments.

(...) The November 17th Nature paper was retracted despite being approved, in its multiple forms, by not one but two peer-review teams—while the NEJM and similarly prestigious publications now publish articles about sex and gender that plainly defy basic biological principles of sexual dimorphism understood even by small children.

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As a biologist, I understand the terms that are being used here. But as a journalist, I get the sense that the authors' primary goal is to overwhelm readers with specialized language that suggests an individual's sex is the output of some complex equation (or, as the authors put it, "a function of multiple biologic processes"). Such language disguises the plain fact that sex is defined functionally based on the type of gamete (sex cell) that forms the basis for an individual's reproductive anatomy. Males comprise the sex that produces small, motile sex cells (sperm); while females comprise the sex that produces large, sessile sex cells (ova). It doesn't matter whether any individual can actually, or eventually does, produce gametes. An individual human being's sex is determined by their primary sex organs, and an individual's sex is accurately recorded over 99.98 percent of the time using genitals as a proxy for underlying gonad type.

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While I have no reason to dispute the statistics cited here, it is stunning that this kind of logic would be featured in a scientific journal. "Identity"—including "gender identity"—is a socially constructed phenomenon that says nothing about one's biological sex. And while it has always been known that some individuals are affected by gender dysphoria, the idea that biology shall be superseded by self-conceived gender identity—not only in the social and legal spheres, but also in some quasi-scientific sense—is a novel claim that would have seemed bizarre to everyone (including trans activists themselves) just a few years ago. Twitter and Tumblr are full of people who insist on the truth of this claim, of course. But they generally do so as activists and moralists—not as scientists.

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Even "Titania McGrath" could scarcely have known how quickly such ideological fads would metastasize into medical literature. And it should be a source of shame for the editors of the NEJM that today's published content now reads as a plagiarized rehash of yesterday's farce.

Ja tässä pääsemme siihen, mikä on muuttunut viime vuosina. Historiallisesti tieteelliset toimittajat ja kustantajat työskentelivät ammattimaisessa ympäristössä, jossa muutamia poikkeuksia lukuun ottamatta tärkeimmät tuomiot olivat muiden asiantuntijoiden antamia tuomioita. Mutta se on nyt muuttunut sosiaalisen median ansiosta. Vaikka Nature- ja NEJM-julkaisujen toimittajat saattavat olla erinomaisia ​​tutkijoita, heillä on myös sama halu ylistää ja hyväksyä kuin kaikilla muillakin. Ja jos sosiaalinen media kertoo heille, että tietyntyyppinen artikkeli merkitsee heidät valaistuneiksi, se varmasti vaikuttaa heidän julkaisuvalintaansa.

Puhumattakaan siitä, että heidän valintansa mitä julkaista. Nature Communications julkaisi 17. marraskuuta artikkelin nimeltä Varhaisen uran epävirallinen mentoriyhdistys akateemisissa yhteistyössä ja nuorempien kirjoittajien suorituskyky, jonka vertaisarvioidut tulokset kyseenalaistivat muodikkaan ajatuksen, että samaa sukupuolta edustavat mentorointijärjestelyt auttavat nuorempia naisia. Tarpeetonta sanoa, että Twitter räjähti raivoissaan, mikä johti lukuisiin muutoksiin, joiden toimittajat toivovat lievittävän kriitikoita. Mutta se ei pitänyt kriitikoita kaukana. Joten tällä viikolla artikkeli vetäytyi kokonaan, ja toimittajat sitoutuivat epäilemättä "pohtimaan toimituksellisia prosessejamme ja vahvuuttamme päättäväisyyttämme tukea monimuotoisuutta, oikeudenmukaisuutta ja osallistumista tutkimukseen". On vaikeaa olla lukematta tätä myöntämiseltä, että julkaisu ei enää edes väitä sivuuttavansa ideologista muotoa toimituksellisissa tuomioissaan.

(...) 17. marraskuuta luontopaperi peruttiin huolimatta siitä, että kukaan muu kuin kaksi vertaisarviointiryhmää oli hyväksynyt sen useissa muodoissaan - kun taas NEJM: ssä ja vastaavan arvostetuissa julkaisuissa julkaistaan ​​nyt sukupuolta ja sukupuolta koskevia artikkeleita, jotka selvästi vastustavat biologisia perusperiaatteita seksuaalinen dimorfismi, jonka pienetkin lapset ymmärtävät.

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Biologina ymmärrän tässä käytetyt termit. Mutta toimittajana minusta tuntuu, että kirjoittajien ensisijainen tavoite on ylittää lukijat erikoistuneella kielellä, joka viittaa siihen, että yksilön sukupuoli on jonkin monimutkaisen yhtälön tulos (tai, kuten kirjoittajat sanovat, "useiden biologisten prosessien funktio) "). Tällainen kieli peittää yksinkertaisen tosiasian, että sukupuoli määritellään toiminnallisesti sen sukusolutyypin (sukupuolisolun) perusteella, joka muodostaa perustan yksilön lisääntymisanatomialle. Miehet käsittävät sukupuolen, joka tuottaa pieniä, liikkuvia sukupuolisoluja (siittiöitä); kun taas naaraat käsittävät sukupuolen, joka tuottaa suuria istumattomia sukupuolisoluja (munasoluja). Sillä ei ole merkitystä, kykeneekö joku tosiasiallisesti tuottamaan sukusoluja vai lopulta. Yksittäisen ihmisen sukupuoli määräytyy heidän ensisijaisten sukupuolielimiensä mukaan, ja yksilön sukupuoli kirjataan tarkasti yli 99,98 prosentissa ajasta käyttäen sukupuolielimiä taustalla olevan sukurauhastyypin sijaisena.

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Vaikka minulla ei ole syytä kiistää tässä mainittuja tilastoja, on hämmästyttävää, että tällainen logiikka esitettäisiin tieteellisessä lehdessä. "Identiteetti" - mukaan lukien "sukupuoli-identiteetti" - on sosiaalisesti rakennettu ilmiö, joka ei kerro mitään biologisesta sukupuolesta. Ja vaikka on aina ollut tiedossa, että joihinkin yksilöihin kohdistuu sukupuolidysforiaa, on ajatus, että biologia korvaa itsekäs sukupuolinen identiteetti - ei vain sosiaalisilla ja oikeudellisilla aloilla, vaan myös joissakin lähes tieteellisessä mielessä - on uusi väite, joka olisi vaikuttanut oudolta kaikille (myös transaktivisteille) vain muutama vuosi sitten. Twitter ja Tumblr ovat tietysti täynnä ihmisiä, jotka vaativat väitteen totuutta. Mutta he tekevät niin yleensä aktivisteina ja moralistina - eivät tiedemiehinä.

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Jopa "Titania McGrath" tuskin olisi tiennyt, kuinka nopeasti tällaiset ideologiset villit metastasoituvat lääketieteelliseen kirjallisuuteen. Ja sen pitäisi olla häpeälähde NEJM: n toimittajille, että tänään julkaistu sisältö luetaan nyt eilisen farsin plagioiduksi uudelleenmuodostukseksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.12.2020, 18:37:04
James Lindsay oli pistänyt joulupäivän kunniaksi aika tukevan artikkelin.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/)

Jos suhtautuu pessimistisesti siihen, mihin tämä nykymeno tulee johtamaan, niin tämä artikkeli ei ainakaan paranna fiiliksiä. Kun tietty porukka on rakentanut oman "pseudo-todellisuutensa", niin ennemmin tai myöhemmin paska osuu tuulettimeen. Ja mitä myöhemmin, sitä kovempaa. Samanlaisen päätelmän on moni Hommalainen tainnut tosin tehdä jo aiemmin...

QuotePsychopathy and the Origins of Totalitarianism

Many of the greatest horrors of the history of humanity owe their occurrence solely to the establishment and social enforcement of a false reality. With gratitude to the Catholic philosopher Josef Pieper and his important 1970 essay "Abuse of Language, Abuse of Power" for the term and idea, we can refer to these alternative realities as ideological pseudo-realities.

Pseudo-realities, being false and unreal, will always generate tragedy and evil on a scale that is at least proportional to the reach of their grip on power (...) up to and including war, genocide, and even civilizational collapse, all of which can take many millions of lives and can ruin many millions more in the vain pursuit of a fiction whose believers are, or are made, sufficiently intolerant.

The Nature of Pseudo-realities

Pseudo-realities are, simply put, false constructions of reality. It is hopefully obvious that among the features of pseudo-realities is that they must present a plausible but deliberately wrong understanding of reality. They are cult "realities" (...)

Pseudo-realities are always social fictions, which, in light of the above, means political fictions. That is, they are maintained not because they are true, in the sense that they correspond to reality, either material or human, but because a sufficient quantity of people in the society they attack either believe them or refuse to challenge them. This implies that pseudo-realities are linguistic phenomena above all else, and where power-granting linguistic distortions are present, it is likely that they are there to create and prop up some pseudo-reality. This also means that they require power, coercion, manipulation, and eventually force to keep them in place. Thus, they are the natural playground of psychopaths, and they are enabled by cowards and rationalizers. Most importantly, pseudo-realities do not attempt to describe reality as it is but rather as it "should be," as determined by the relatively small fraction of the population who cannot bear living in reality unless it is bent to enable their own psychopathologies, which will be projected upon their enemies, which means all normal people.

(...) In pseudo-reality, common sense is denigrated as bias or some kind of false consciousness, and science is replaced by a scientism that is a tool of power itself. (...)

It must be observed that people who accept pseudo-realities as though they are "real" are no longer normal people. They perceive pseudo-reality in place of reality, and the more thoroughly they take on this delusional position, the more functional psychopathy they necessarily exhibit and thus the less normal they become. Importantly, normal people consistently and consequentially fail to realize this about their reprogrammed neighbors. Perceiving them as normal people when they are not, normal people will reliably misunderstand the motivations of ideological pseudo-realists—power and the universal installation of their own ideology so that everyone lives in a pseudo-reality that enables their pathologies—usually until it is far too late.

As a result of this failure of perspective, many particularly epistemically and morally open normal people will reinterpret the claims of pseudo-reality into something that is plausible in reality under the usual logic and morals that guide our thinking, and this reinterpretation will work to the benefit of the pseudo-realists who have ensnared them. This sort of person, who stands between the real world and the pseudo-real are useful idiots to the ideology (...)

Pseudo-realities may have any degree of plausibility in their distorted descriptions of reality, and thus may recruit different numbers of adherents. They are often said to be accessible only by applying a "theoretical lens," awakening a specialized "consciousness," or by means of some pathological form of faith. Whether by "lens," "consciousness," or "faith," these intellectual constructs exist to make the pseudo-reality seem more plausible, to drag people into participating in it against their will, and to distinguish those who "can see," "are awake," or "believe" from those who cannot or, as it always eventually goes, will not. That is, they are the pretext to tell people who inhabit reality instead of pseudo-reality that they're not looking at "reality" correctly, which means as pseudo-reality. This will typically be characterized as a kind of willful ignorance of the pseudo-reality, which will subsequently be described paradoxically as unconsciously maintained. Notice that this puts the burden of epistemic and moral responsibility on the person inhabiting reality, not the person positing its replacement with an absurd pseudo-reality. This is a key functional manipulation of pseudo-realists that must be understood. The ability to recognize this phenomenon when it occurs and to resist it is, at scale, the life and death of civilizations.

(...) The nicer, more tolerant, and more charitable a community is, supposing it lacks the capacity to spot these counterfeits early on, the more susceptible its members will tend to be to these manipulations.

Tuo lienee vastaus siihen, miksi tämä hulluus leviää käytännössä vain länsimaissa.

QuotePseudo-realities and Power

The ultimate purpose of creating a pseudo-reality is power, which the constructed pseudo-reality grants in many ways. Though these means are many, we should name a few. First, the pseudo-reality is always constructed such that it structurally advantages those who accept it over those who do not, frequently by overt double standards and through moral-linguistic traps. Double standards in this regard will always favor those who accept pseudo-reality as reality and will always disfavor those who seek the truth. An ideological pseudo-reality must displace reality in a sufficient population to grant itself power to succeed in its goals. Linguistic traps will often employ strategic double meanings of words (...)

Second, the very assertion of pseudo-reality demoralizes all who are pressed into engaging with it by the mere fact of being something false that must be treated as true. We should never underestimate how psychologically weakening and damaging it is to be forced to treat as true something that is not true, with the effect strengthening the more obviously false it is. (...)

Thus, third, by trading off normal people's assumptions that seemingly serious people care about what is true, they successfully force normal people to verify aspects of the pseudo-reality even in the act of denying it by getting the normal person to meet the ideologue part way. This is the relevance of pseudo-reality being pseudo-real, with greater plausibility strengthening the effect. That is, many normal people will fail to realize the pseudo-reality is false because they cannot see outside of the frame of normality that they charitably extend to all people, whether normal or not.

This dynamic bears a brief elaboration. Normal people do not tend to recognize that a broken logic and twisted morality is being used to prop up an ideological vision—a pseudo-reality—and that the mental states of the people within it (or held hostage by it) are not normal. Some among them, particularly the very but not exceptionally smart, thus skillfully reinterpret the absurd and dangerous claims of the pseudo-realist ideologues into something reasonable and sensible when, in fact, they are not reasonable or sensible. This, in turn, renders the pseudo-reality more palatable than it actually is and further disguises the distortions and underlying will to power presented by the ideological pseudo-realists. All of these features, and others, advantage the ideologue who, like some modern-day Zarathustra, speaks a pseudo-reality into existence, and all of these confer power upon that ideologue while stealing it from every participant in their social fiction, willing or not.

A Note on Ideology


As we are now speaking in terms of ideologues, we need to be clear before continuing that by "ideology" is meant here something closer to "cult ideology" than a more general meaning of the term. It is crucial to distinguish between these so that we do not confuse those sweeping approaches to contextualizing and understanding reality that are generative of comprehension of the real with those that exist in relationship with the pseudo-real.

Liberalism may, for example, be construed as an ideology, but it would not qualify as a cult ideology because, for any shortcomings it may have, it makes itself subordinate to the truth. (...) Accordingly, it exhibits none of the psychopathic tendencies that arise quite regularly in the context of ideologies that depend upon the production and maintenance of some useful but bogus pseudo-reality.

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Pseudo-realities as Language Games

(...) Pseudo-real world-builders tend to manipulate people upon their vulnerabilities, which is a well-known fact of cult recruitment. Thus, they are most effective on people who have an underlying baseline of psychological, emotional, or spiritual illness, particularly of the kinds that relate poorly to the real world and the rough-and-tumble social realities within it. As noted, these are also often manufactured to purpose and target the psychologically, emotionally, and spiritually susceptible, along with the naive, the angry, and the aggrieved. It is in such minds where pseudo-realist manipulations are most effective and can generate a sizable sympathizer base among otherwise normal people, some of whom will be induced into the psychopathologies that underlie the whole project. (...)

Lapset ja nuoret ovat luonnollisesti siis ykköskohde, tietyt vähemmistöt ovat myös pop. Selittänee osittain (uhri-narratiivin ohella) myös sen, miksi vihavasurit haalii maahan tiettyä porukkaa kaikin mahdollisin keinoin, ja miksi viha "tottelemattomia" maahanmuuttajia kohtaan on niin suuri.

QuoteAcademic Pseudo-realities

Given the fact that they are the tool of manipulative people who exhibit high thirst for power and linguistic savvy, pseudo-realists tend to target the (bourgeois) upper-middle class whose livelihoods depend most upon their credentialing and acceptance by a group of peers, particularly the highly educated, though not most brilliant, among them. An abnormally high proportion of such individuals are employed in education, media, politics, and especially academia. (The most potent and dangerous ideological pseudo-realities are the kinds of absurdities only academics could truly believe.) Among its features, pseudo-reality, being a linguistic and social construction, enables a path to careerism and credentialing in these sorts of professions far more than in most others, which generates an incentive structure that favors the pseudo-realists' ambitions.

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This feature of pseudo-realist cultism strengthens as the mark accepts more of the premises of the pseudo-reality and thus divorces himself further and further from reality and normal people who live within it. This slowly traps adherents, who have almost no escape mechanism, even when ideological off-ramps are made plainly available. (...) With a distorted logic that can no longer perceive reality except as a counterfeit, they lack the necessary epistemic resources to challenge the ideology, even within themselves. With a subverted morality that perceives evil as good and good as evil in accordance with the slave morality of the pseudo-reality, their entire social environment is conditioned to keep them in a Hell whose gates are locked from the inside. Thus, to understand ideological pseudo-realities and to try to discover something we can do about them, it is necessary to examine their internal logic and moral systems in more detail.

Ideological Paralogic

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The role paralogic plays in being parallel to logic but for a false reality is crucial to understand. It reliably leads (very) smart, thoughtful people who utterly reject the pseudo-reality—and yet who remain mostly ignorant of its paralogical structure—to carry water for the ideologues inhabiting it by normalizing it while portraying accurate critics as kooks and bad actors. In fact, these (very smart) people are generating the smokescreen to the broader normal public that makes the pseudo-reality look far more reasonable and tethered to reality than it actually is. This intellectual manipulation of (very smart) people is a crucial factor in the establishment of any successful large-scale pseudo-reality, which will only be able to maintain a relatively small proportion of true believers. Of note, nobody is better at this than an educated or credentialed liberal who stands to lose a lot by being branded a kook or bad actor by other useful idiots.

Tulee tässä kohtaa esim. muutama Hyysärin kolumnisti mieleen.

QuoteIdeological Paramorality

Alongside the paralogical structure used to trick useful idiots into defending the ideological pseudo-reality project is a powerful tool of social enforcement using an ostensibly moral dimension. (...) The goal of the paramorality is to socially enforce the belief that good people accept the paramorality and attendant pseudo-reality while everyone else is morally deficient and evil. That is, it is an inversion of morality, the slave morality as described by Nietzsche in his Genealogy of Morals.

Because the paramorality is, in fact, immoral, participants in the pseudo-reality will experience vigorous, usually totalitarian, enforcement of the ideological paramorality. It is in this way that the requisite social pressure is created to maintain the lie and its immoral system. In turn, following the cycle of abuse, they will then use the same tenets and tactics to (para)-moralize normal people outside of it, eventually far more vigorously. (...) Again, this is the true alchemy of the pseudo-realist program; it transforms normal, moral people into immoral agents who must perpetrate evil to feel good and perceive as evil those who do good.

(...) Vicious moralizing that will eventually justify violence, including on wide scales, is an eventual guarantee of such demands, if they are enabled sufficiently to shift that power to the ideologues.

This guarantees the paramorality of an ideological pseudo-reality will always be repressive and totalitarian. Dissent and doubt cannot be tolerated, and disagreement must be cordoned off into a moral pit that adherents dare not approach. (...) These bogus constructions are meant to unilaterally shift power to the ideologues so that their pseudo-reality can remain propped up.

(...) This implies that an ideological pseudo-reality's most successful means of gaining strength is through appealing to the perceived victimhood of those people and whipping up the grievances of those who have suffered similar injustices with more dignity. When widely empowered, this should be treated as another symptom of impending civilizational calamity and a need to identify and reject the pseudo-reality manipulating these feelings.

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Psychopathy and Pseudo-reality

(...) If we take a step back to consider our delusional cultist upon which the entire analysis began, we can glean another important point about the nature of ideological pseudo-realities that has been repeatedly intimated so far. That is this: it is easy to perceive that this hypothetical person not only might be but probably is psychopathic to a certain degree if he is creating a cult ideology and attendant pseudo-reality. Pseudo-reality is not the domain of the sane, by definition, and wishing to enforce one's pathologies upon others for one's own benefit, especially through manipulation of their vulnerabilities, is as near to a simple, general definition of psychopathy as one could hope to read.

Hassu yhteensattuma, että esim. BLM-porukat oli pullollaan rikollisia, lasten hyväksikäyttäjät olivat erityisen vahvasti edustettuina.

QuoteMost concerningly, psychopathic ideologies reliably generate (temporary but) functional psychopathy in otherwise normal people who, by means of these manipulations, become sufficiently convicted fellow travelers with and sympathizers to the ideology. Quite literally, aside from the direct effects of demoralization and the destabilization caused by the growing drift of their beliefs away from reality and toward unreality (pseudo-reality), a psychopathic ideology makes its sympathizers believe and act in psychopathic ways themselves, at least in a functional sense. These are the demands and costs of upholding the paralogic (so as not to be a "fool" in pseudo-reality) and paramorality (so as not to be the wrong kind of person in pseudo-reality), and slowly these victims of the ideology become the monsters they were too weak to fight. As noted previously, virtues like tolerance and empathy are intentionally perverted until they begin to bifurcate so that they carry a political valence (paramorality good, morality bad) that increasingly favors the pseudo-real ideology and becomes legitimately psychopathic as the effect strengthens.

Näin siis suvakeista rakennetaan psykopaatteja. Luulisin, että aika moni Hommalainen on somesta ja jopa valtamediasta lukenut juttuja, jotka tuntuvat omasta mielestä olevan paremminkin tuon jälkimmäisen kuin ensimmäisen ryhmän edustajan kirjoittamia.

QuoteImportantly, this circumstance implies that the average "fellow traveler" in a cult ideology not only does not realize they're a cultist who is using tools and tactics of manipulation (paralogic and paramorality) on people in their lives, both normal and ideologically "awakened" fellow cultists; they cannot realize this without first abandoning the paralogic and paramorality that has captured them and rejecting the ideological pseudo-reality in a fundamental way. They find themselves in the broken position not only of being functionally psychopathic but also of being reality-inverted such that they believe all normal people who are not (yet) cultists are the cultists while they, themselves, are not. This represents a complete reversal of sanity, and the conversion of normal to ideologically psychopathic is, by that point, complete. These people, as many have learned the hard way throughout history, are the otherwise good people who are capable of perpetrating genocides.

Cutting the Threads


What, then, could possibly be the answer to this perilous and perennial tangle? Fortunately, the first step, at the least, is very simple. It's mere awareness. It is learning to recognize the constructed pseudo-reality for what it is—a fabricated simulation of reality that is unfit for human societies—and beginning to reject unapologetically any demand to participate in it. (...)

This can only be done by learning enough to see the games, telling the truth, and refusing to be coerced or forced to participate in the increasingly hegemonic pseudo-reality before it claims totalitarian power.  Speaking practically, there are two straightforward ways this can be done. One is to refute the pseudo-reality, and the other is to reject it.

For most people, the latter of these is easier than the former, and it requires less of someone. Strength of will and character will suffice. (...)

Refuting pseudo-reality is harder, as it requires much more specific knowledge along with skill, strength of character, and courage. It also must be done, at least by someone, if an ideological pseudo-reality has already taken root. Such a pseudo-reality has to be shown to be a false reality, which is to say a pernicious fiction, to as many people as possible.
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Commonly, also, this process will not be comfortable and requires tremendous courage of precisely the kind that ideological demoralization is very effective at eroding and containing. The paralogic will interpret direct dissent as stupid or crazy, and the paramorality will characterize it as evil (or motivated by evil intentions, even if unconscious ones outside of the dissenter's awareness). The courage to bear these outrageous insults and slander, and to bear its unjust social consequences, is therefore a necessary precondition to putting a halt to totalitarianism. It is understandable why most will not choose this path, but be warned: the longer one waits, the worse this gets.

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(...) Some more backbone can be dredged up by realizing that once the pseudo-real begins displacing the real for even a few percent of the population, the question is no longer whether things will go bad but how bad they will go before the bubble bursts. Reality will always win, and calamity comes in proportion to the size of the lie between us and it, so it is better to act sooner than later. Still more heart resides in grasping that it gets worse right up until a real resistance mounts, and then, after a rocky transition, it starts getting better. The time to act is therefore now.
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Sitä voikin sitten miettiä, miten pahaksi tilanne meneekään, kun maassa on luultavasti jo kaksinumeroinen prosenttiluku tuossa pseudo-todellisuudessa eläviä ihmisiä, ja sekä maan hallitus että valtamedia ovat pitkälti tällaisten ihmisten komennossa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.12.2020, 21:21:02
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Tuhoamisen kohteena oleva "internalized whiteness" tarkoittanee nykyään vain niitä valkoisia, jotka eivät suostu alistumaan tälle vihavasurien uudelle rauhanuskonnolle.
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Post by: zupi on 08.01.2021, 12:19:00
Rufon uusin pala, kannattaa lukaista koko ketju. Tätä saadaan USAssa pian paljon lisää. Kohta täällä?

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Post by: zupi on 10.01.2021, 00:35:48
Täytyy sanoa, että on meikäläiselläkin pieniä ongelmia... Mutta tämä on pseudorealityn ja paranormalityn lopputulos: Back to DDR ja v...t perheestä. Itse en saanut todellakaan sellaista mielikuvaa, että tuo aivopesty tyttönen olisi surullinen teostaan, hänhän on perkele ylpeä siitä. Ja valtamedia komppaa, saatanan paskapäät... Ja riippumatta siitä, minkälainen mielikuva artikkelista tulee, ne tyttösen sukulaiset eivät ole tehneet mitään lainvastaista (todistetusti). On tuo vaan ihan v...n surullista.

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QuoteAn 18-Year-Old Saw Her Mom, Aunt, And Uncle In DC In A Video — So She Named Them

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Her mom, Therese Duke, had told her vaguely that she was taking Helena's aunt for a procedure. But Helena suspected that her Trump-supporting mom may have secretly traveled to Washington, DC, for the delusional last-ditch "Stop the Steal" rally.

(...)

Watching the clip, Helena identified her mom, her aunt Annie Lorenz, and her uncle Richard Lorenz as part of a group of white people confronting a Black woman who had hit Therese in the face after she had tried to grab her. ("grab her, ei ...)

"My initial reaction was more like, Oh my gosh, I was right. I was actually right about them being there," Helena told BuzzFeed News. "It was very surreal because it was an insane video, first of all, and then it was the revelation that, Oh, that's my mother. That's her."

The Black woman in the video had tweeted that a group of five people were harassing her for a long time and had tried to take her belongings from her hands and her pockets. (She declined to comment on the incident to BuzzFeed News without legal representation ( :roll:). Helena's family members did not respond to emails and calls requesting comment.)

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"I think it kind of makes me feel better knowing other people have gone through the same thing," she said. "I obviously feel very sad that they have to go through it, too, but that I'm not alone, and that they're not alone."

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It's unclear if Helena's family members were at the Capitol on Wednesday, when thousands of Trump supporters incited by him descended on the building to try to overturn the election that he lost.

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The next day, after Therese texted saying she was home, Helena simply responded, "how's your nose."

"Please call me or talk to me if you really wanna know," her mom wrote.

Her mom and aunt — whom she said she was close to until their relationship broke down in recent years — have sent her pleas and threats to remove her tweets.

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"I honestly don't think I did anything wrong in this situation," Helena said.

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"She told me she thought Black Lives Matter was a violent organization and they would be inciting violence," she recalled.

"I always felt almost heartbroken over how they viewed the world and how skewed it was and how they wouldn't allow me to express my views. But showing that they can act in such a horrible way is just really appalling to me," she said. "I am honestly very disappointed to have to be part of this family that is so...just, very not welcoming or supportive. I don't feel safe being part of this family."

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/teen-names-mom-trump-supporter-dc (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clarissajanlim/teen-names-mom-trump-supporter-dc)
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Post by: Mangustin on 10.01.2021, 02:00:01
^ Samaa bolsevismia nykyvuoden paketissa

Minä olen pieni pioneeri
ja vähäinen on vielä minun voimani
vaan pienikin voi taistella
rauhan puolesta kuin Lenin
tai setä Ho Chi Minh


https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavlik_Morozov
QuoteVuonna 1932 julkistettu tarina kertoo, että 13-vuotias Pavlik Morozov oli ilmiantanut oman isänsä viljan piilottamisesta kulakkien kanssa, minkä takia tämä joutui vankilaan ja hänet ammuttiin myöhemmin. Vihastuneiden sukulaisten väitettiin surmanneen Pavlikin. Pavlikista tehtiin määrätietoisella kampanjoinnilla esimerkillinen nuorukainen, joka oli asettanut neuvostomaan edun oman etunsa edelle. Hänen tarinastaan tehtiin elämäkertoja, näytelmiä, patsaita, sinfoninen runo, ooppera sekä vaille ensi-iltaa jäänyt ja sittemmin kadonnut elokuva (Sergei Eisensteinin Bežinin niityt). Pavlikin tarinalla vaikutettiin neuvostoliittolaisiin lapsiin ja innostettiin heitä ilmiantamaan vanhempansa.
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Post by: Kristian IV on 11.01.2021, 13:52:44
Huh. Tulinpa surulliseksi ketjua lukiessa. Näköjään vastapuolen ongelmat menevät syvemmälle kuin ymmärsinkään. Kiitos avartavasta katsannosta yllä oleville teoreetikoille. Vastustaja on toki hyvä tuntea, nuo näköjään häikeilemättä hyökkäilevät jo aivan perustavanlaatuisimpien tieteellisten käsitteiden kimppuun. Luulin jo luonnontieteiden voittaneen pahimmat hihhuloinnit, mutta voi kuinka väärässä olinkaan.

Seuraavien vuosikymmenten aikana, kun Jorma Uotisesta on tullut kansankomissaarien neuvoston puheenjohtaja, jolloin kaikki ikävältä kuulostavat sanat on kielletty, ja ne joilla on vaikkapa Homma-taustaa, joutuvat joka yhteydessä tunnustamaan entisen väärässä olemisensa käsinauhoilla ja julkisella logolla Facebook tilissämme. Joudumme varmaankin todistamaan uskollisuutemme ideologialle suutelemalla tummaa trans-henkilöä.

Ne juutalaiset jotka tajusivat tilanteen jo 30-luvulla Saksassa, osasivat lähteä paskamyrskyn tieltä hyvissä ajoin. Itse olen alkanut opettelemaan japanin kieltä sillä ajatuksella, että jossain vaiheessa saattaa joutua lähtemään.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jetsku on 11.01.2021, 14:34:53
"I don't feel safe being part of this family."

Tämä on nykymaailmassa äärimmäisen surullinen ilmiö. Samanlaisia avautumisia näkee jenkkiläisessä somessa jonkin verran.

Kyseinen perhe ei siis ikinä ole harjoittanut sen enempää henkistä kuin fyysistäkään väkivaltaa tätä nuorta kohtaan. He ovat varmaankin jyrkästi eri mieltä poliittisista asioista, mutta mitä ilmeisimmin perhe on ollut mitä rakastavin. On ihan kauheaa sanoa - etenkin julkisesti - ettei tunne oloaan turvalliseksi. Ymmärrän sen, jos pelissä on päihteitä, väkivaltaa, mielenterveysjuttuja ja muuta, mutta... No voisi itse tietysti miettiä, jos vanhemmat sanoisivat, etteivät tunne oloaan turvalliseksi lapsensa kanssa, koska lapsella on erilaisia poliittisia mielipiteitä.
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Post by: zupi on 14.01.2021, 08:57:26
Taas uusi ketju Rufolta, pistän tähän nyt vain pari twiittiä.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 15.01.2021, 00:23:31
Siinä vaiheessa, kun Sleepy kumoaa lopullisesti Trumpin määräämän CRT-kiellon, niin varmasti on hirveä lauma toimittelijoita kyselemässä Jameksen esiin nostamia kysymyksiä.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/maintaining-expanding-ban-critical-race-theory/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/maintaining-expanding-ban-critical-race-theory/)

Quote(...)

Proponents Must Want Division

Again, as I have read the executive order several times, I'm perplexed as to why any American or reasonable and decent human being living in the twenty-first century would want it overturned. Since many do, since presumably a Biden administration will as well, and since I try not to assume people are as evil as they often sound in ignorance, I have to assume the executive order has not been widely or properly read. Nevertheless, as we can see from Section 10 above, the order only prohibits applying the "divisive concepts" listed in Section 2(a) and then only in particular ways. It's therefore important for us to look at these concepts directly from the order and evaluate them.

Before listing them, with commentary, I want to stress why we need to be familiar with what the executive order says. It's very simple. Anyone who wants to overturn this executive order or resist creating copycat orders at the state (or city) level must want to leave room to engage in at least one of the behaviors it prohibits. The questions are "which ones?" and "why?"

Here is the list of prohibited "divisive concepts" given in Section 2(a) of the executive order, with my own commentary added in italics in square brackets added to most of them: (Jameksen kommentit siis hakasuluissa, en lisännyt kursiivia)

(1) one race or sex is inherently superior to another race or sex [outright bigotry or supremacy—note that this also prohibits white supremacy, patriarchy, (homophobia, ableism, exasperated etc.)];

(2) the United States is fundamentally racist or sexist [i.e., "systemic" bigotry/oppression];

(3) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, is inherently racist, sexist, or oppressive, whether consciously or unconsciously [even by "complicity," like "white complicity" or "brown complicity"];

(4) an individual should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment solely or partly because of his or her race or sex;

(5) members of one race or sex cannot and should not attempt to treat others without respect to race or sex [this is a repudiation of identity-blindness, e.g., colorblindness, and seeks to make identity, like race, relevant and central to all interactions and phenomena];

(6) an individual's moral character is necessarily determined by his or her race or sex [direct rejection of Martin Luther King's "I Have a Dream" perspective];

(7) an individual, by virtue of his or her race or sex, bears responsibility for actions committed in the past by other members of the same race or sex [a kind of identity-based "sins of the father" and guilt by association];

(88) any individual should feel discomfort, guilt, anguish, or any other form of psychological distress on account of his or her race or sex [believe it or not, this kind of thing is advocated under Critical Theories of identity (Critical Social Justice) under models like "the pedagogy of discomfort")]; or

(9) meritocracy or traits such as a hard work ethic are racist or sexist, or were created by a particular race to oppress another race [this ideology rejects meritocracy].

The term "divisive concepts" also includes any other form of race or sex stereotyping or any other form of race or sex scapegoating.

Anyone who is calling for this order to be overturned or who is arguing against passing it into law, both on the federal level or, hopefully, on the state levels, must be held to account on this point: they must want to leave room to engage in at least one of the eleven things listed above. We have to ask them which ones and why.

If you find someone who is against this order or similar, ask them what it is they disagree with. Have then be specific—which "divisive tenets" do you want to engage in and why? Ask them:

Do you want to claim that certain identities are inherently superior to others? If so, why?

Do you want to claim that the United States is fundamentally bigoted? If so, why?

Do you want to claim that certain individuals—because of who they happen to be in terms of identity factors like race, sex, (gender, sexuality, disability, exasperated etc.)—are intrinsically bigoted or complicit in bigotry? If so, why?

Do you think that people should be discriminated against or receive adverse treatment because of factors of identity? If so, why?

Do you think that people should have to treat people according to their identities instead of as equals? If so, why?

Do you believe that people's moral character is in some way determined by who they happen to be? If so, why?

Do you believe that people should be held morally responsible for things that were done by other people who happen to have the same identity factors that they do? If so, why?

Do you think that people should be made to feel uncomfortable (or in anguish!) over factors of their identity? If so, why?

Do you want to say that merit was not a significant, if not the, determining factor in how people came to occupy the professional positions they occupy? If so, why?

Do you wish to engage in identity-based stereotyping of some other kind? If so, why?

Do you wish to engage in identity-based scapegoating of some other kind? If so, why?

These questions must be asked clearly and repeatedly of anyone who condemns this executive order (...) (...)

Sleepyn EO:n kumoamista ja sitä seuraavia median jatkuvia kysymyksiä kumoamisen syistä odotellessa... yksi twiitti.

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Post by: zupi on 17.01.2021, 18:06:30
Kannattaa katsoa koko pätkä, jos on englanti hallussa ja tunti luppoaikaa.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: sancai on 17.01.2021, 18:31:14
Quote from: jetsku on 11.01.2021, 14:34:53
"I don't feel safe being part of this family."

Tämä on nykymaailmassa äärimmäisen surullinen ilmiö. Samanlaisia avautumisia näkee jenkkiläisessä somessa jonkin verran.

Kyseinen perhe ei siis ikinä ole harjoittanut sen enempää henkistä kuin fyysistäkään väkivaltaa tätä nuorta kohtaan. He ovat varmaankin jyrkästi eri mieltä poliittisista asioista, mutta mitä ilmeisimmin perhe on ollut mitä rakastavin. On ihan kauheaa sanoa - etenkin julkisesti - ettei tunne oloaan turvalliseksi. Ymmärrän sen, jos pelissä on päihteitä, väkivaltaa, mielenterveysjuttuja ja muuta, mutta... No voisi itse tietysti miettiä, jos vanhemmat sanoisivat, etteivät tunne oloaan turvalliseksi lapsensa kanssa, koska lapsella on erilaisia poliittisia mielipiteitä.
Ei sen ole edes tarkoitus viitata oikeaan turvattomuuteen. Vetoaminen siihen, että joku tekee henkilön olon turvattomaksi on muodostunut Yhdysvalloissa melko tavalliseksi väärien mielipiteiden ilmiantamisen ja toisinajattelijoiden kiusaamisen keinoksi. Esimerkiksi jonkun verran julkisuudessa ollut New York Timesin toimittaja Bari Weissin tapaus meni niin. Hän on siis amerikanjuutalainen toimittaja, joka palkattiin lehteen sen takia, että hän kirjoittaisi sentristisemmästä, tasapuolisemmasta näkökulmasta. Hänet kuitenkin savustettiin ja kiusattiin ulos toimituksesta, koska muut toimittajat tekivät hänestä jatkuvasti ilmiantoja, miten hänen olemassaolonsa muka tekee heidän olonsa turvattomaksi. Samanlaisia tarinoita kertovat monet toimittajat, jotka ovat tulleet julkisuuteen tämän cancel-kulttuurin takia, eivätkä edes mitkään öyhöttäjät, vaan toimittajat, jotka ovat pyrkineet journalismiin ja neutraaliuteen eivätkä ole taipuneet ääri-ideologiseen painostukseen.

Se, mikä minua suututtaa, surettaa ja pelottaa eniten tässä liikkeessä on normaalien ihmisten ja valtavirtaoikeiston reagointi, tai siis reagoimattomuus. He tuntuvat olevan totaalisen kyvyttömiä edes tunnistamaan tämän ilmiön olemassaoloa ja sen laajuutta. He ovat kuvitelleet jo 30 vuotta, että vallitseva hulluus menee ohi, jos oikeisto vaan ei tee mitään, hyvinpä on toiminut. Valtavirtaoikeiston reaktio meitä woke-ideologian kritisoijia kohtaan on jopa vihamielinen: miten kehtaatte kyseenalaistaa valtamedian ja valtainstituutiot! En todellakaan ymmärrä, ovatko he yksinkertaisesti niin tyhmiä ja tietämättömiä, että eivät oikeasti ymmärrä, mitä heidän ympärillään tapahtuu, vai onko kyse hillotolpista. Valtavirtaoikeiston selkärangan puute ja harhaisuus on vain jotain, mikä minulla on vaikea käsittää kun yleensä juuri he ovat se aikaansaava ihmisryhmä. Jotkut kokoomuslaiset ovat jopa väittäneet minulle, että yliopistojen uusmarxistisuus on salaliittoteoria. Kaikenlaisia hulluja on tietysti ollut aina, mutta miksi järkevät ihmiset eivät juuri nyt tee mitään vaan vaikenevat? On aivan uusi ilmiö, että ihmiset vaan vaikenevat ja alistuvat sellaisille vaatimuksille, joille ennen olisi vain naurettu.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 19.01.2021, 00:49:44
Sattui vastaan ihan mielenkiintoinen twitter-tili, Intiasta lähtöisin oleva, nykyisin ilmeisesti Lontoossa asuva, anti-woke vasuri psykoterapeutti. Ajattelin pistää tähän pikku kokoelman mimmin viimeaikaisista twiiteistä. Ihan hyvää kamaa woke-saastasta, jonka ilmeisestikin tuntee varsin hyvin.

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Twiitit vain lainauksina.

QuoteSuch an interesting (and alarming) social phenomenon that people in the safest, most prosperous, liberal societies in all of human history- are also the most fragile, angry, ungrateful, and believe themselves to be 'oppressed'.
3:13 AM · Dec 16, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteOnly people who've never experienced actual violence, are ignorant & arrogant enough to call words 'violence'.
4:28 AM · Dec 16, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteCancel culture operates with a similar psychological mechanism to the way fundamentalist religions treat sinners or heretics.

Vilifying or demonising, public shamings, the cancellee is labelled as 'bad', and then ostracised from the community.
1:55 AM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteCancel culture in the west is alarmingly like the 'religious police' in the east.

They 'promote virtue & prevent vice'. They not only arrest & whip/stone 'sinners', they encourage citizens to police each other. So everyone remains in a state of fear- including of each other.
4:41 AM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteHuman beings have evolved to overcome adversity, obstacles & challenges.

People who have had little to no adversity- or worse, too much comfort & coddling- seem to create 'adversity' & 'oppressions' to overcome.
5:56 AM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSocialists aren't bad people, conservatives aren't bad people- 'bad' people are the ones who make an extremist dogmatic ideology out of their beliefs- and then force it down everyone else's throats.

PS: the woke are bad people
😆
7:00 AM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteCoddling is not love. It's incapacitation- the psychological form of foot binding.

It's subliminally communicating: 'you are incapable, fragile, weak but very special'.

This is not love, it is the devouring mother.
5:47 PM · Dec 18, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteIf you know someone who's being 'cancelled'- but they've only ever treated you well, been kind, empathetic- and you turn away or against them.

Out of schadenfreude, or cowardice, because you think compliance will make the crocodile eat you last.

You're spineless.
1:51 AM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteThe woke made me anti-woke.

Not 'right wing' propaganda. No other influence.

It was the them- witnessing their cruel behaviour, cancel culture, censorship, anti-science rhetoric, more than anything their cruelty & venom.
I couldn't support that.

They radicalised me.
3:29 AM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteTo be clear:
- I said they 'radicalised' me, because that is their jargon, I don't really think I'm radicalised.
- I'm not on the right, not that there's anything wrong with being a conservative.
- I'm a heterodox liberal.
- I'm anti-woke.
4:12 AM · Dec 19, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteOver validating & coddling as a parenting strategy were supposedly to raise self-esteem, regardless of behaviour.

Instead it's created incomprehensible levels of entitlement, ineptitude & emotional fragility- bc self-esteem not based on anything is narcissism.
6:06 AM · Dec 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteDeplatforming: The astronomically narcissistic & entitled demand that people you don't agree with should be removed from a platform.

But if you block them or delete one of their comments, they will try to cancel you FOR SILENCING THEM.
😂
6:52 AM · Dec 21, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Quote1/ Wokeness is an ideology- and a poorly thought out one. It encourages division, hierarchies of 'oppression', public confessions of sin, and doesn't base it's assertions off data.

It's instruments are antisocial behaviour based on moral elitism: attacks, doxxing, cancelling.

7:50 PM · Dec 22, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Quote2/ Moral elitism means the woke, who think they're morally superior, have carte blanche to attack the morally 'inferior'. This is how fundamentalist religions behave.

This has absolutely nothing to do with having a social conscience- and everything to do with power & compliance.
7:53 PM · Dec 22, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWhat's the polar opposite of The Enlightenment?

That's what we're living through.
6:12 PM · Dec 23, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteI've never experienced as much blatant racism as I have this year from (mostly) white progressives.

They use other white people as punching bags, pick on minorities and then congratulate themselves on their 'advocacy'.

Brava, you are an imbecilic scourge on society.

7:39 AM · Dec 24, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWoke authoritarianism has created a culture where verbal, psychological & emotional abuse have became permissible.

It's now socially acceptable to abuse people, under the guise of 'advocacy'. This is a safe haven for abusers.

7:45 AM · Dec 25, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteMany of us 'minorities' in the west, come from places that are actually oppressive & unsafe, and where we were traumatised.

We come to the west and find safety, freedom & opportunity.

It might not be perfect, but I'm profoundly grateful.
6:07 PM · Dec 25, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteThe woke can't understand this because their rhetoric has no nuance. It's a binary, oppressor/oppressed.

It's a monumental insult to be called a victim when you have survived so much. Especially by people so emotionally fragile that if you don't do as they say, they attack you.
9:51 PM · Dec 25, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuotePeople who decry 'bootstrapping', personal responsibility, and hard work as sinister byproducts of capitalism are lying to you.

You're being set up to fail.
8:43 PM · Dec 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteIt's the weirdest thing & I cannot STAND it. The woke talk in a strange therapy/woke language & use it to torture each other & everyone else.

They misapply jargon, give it a faux sugary sweet coating, and then use it as a weapon.
5:42 AM · Dec 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteIf you swap words like problematic, harmful', 'ist & 'phobe (when no ism or phobia has taken place)-

and insert in their place 'blasphemer' or 'heretic', you will better understand what is going on.


You are being punished for being a non believer.
6:28 PM · Dec 29, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteI'm sorry to say it, I don't like stereotyping like this, but the every time I get a comment that's really nasty- and I mean *really* nasty. The kind of comment that leaves you winded for a second because it was so personal, low & shockingly cruel. It's always the woke. Always.
3:07 PM · Dec 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWhy is it only woke 'lived experience' that is 'valid'- and never the people who disagree or point out obvious flaws in their ideology?

It's almost like it's *gasp* not about 'lived experience' at all...
9:19 PM · Dec 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteIt's hard to describe how awful racism feels. Even harder to describe the unwelcome feeling of being fetishised as 'woman of colour' by the woke when it suits them- and then scapegoated when it doesn't.

It might actually feel worse.
8:15 PM · Jan 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteThe thing I still cannot get my head around is how therapists & psychologists who should have a solid grasp of human behaviour, motivations, disordered & distorted thinking, not only can't see what is going on- they are active participants in making things worse.
10:59 PM · Jan 9, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteOne of the things that struck me from being around the woke is how gullible & suggestible they are.

Someone just has to say, 'we think this now', and they all unquestioningly comply & bend their minds to make it fit. No questions, no data analysis, no fact checking.

6:41 AM · Jan 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuotePainful truth:
It doesn't matter how good your argument is or how carefully you deliver it, if the other person's *goal* is to misunderstand & devalue you.

In instances like this, disengage, don't waste your energy. It can be very painful, but don't forget: YOU know who you are.
10:08 PM · Jan 11, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Quote'Social justice' movements crystallised because there was a need to address the inequality faced primarily by people of colour.

Cut to 2021: Woke white people take on oppressed identities & then use their social capital to harass people of colour for not being woke.
2:39 AM · Jan 13, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWokeness is an ideology that pretends to be about 'social justice', but really it's a proxy for abusing power.

Actual justice would do something useful, not focus on changing around letters in words & cancelling anyone that doesn't believe in it.
3:31 AM · Jan 13, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteBIPOC is a acronym the woke came up. It's incredibly arrogant to come up with an acronym for such a diverse group, shove us all into it, and then start speaking for us.

They say we're not a monolith, and then speak for ALL black indigenous people of colour.
3:41 PM · Jan 13, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteCritical theory teaches that one must enter situations seeking to find what is 'problematic'. To filter out what's good & seek out problems.

This is conditioning the mind into a negative confirmation bias, which is also a feature of mood disorders like clinical depression.

7:49 AM · Jan 14, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWe find ourselves in a very dark day collectively, culturally. Where the most ineffectual, resentful, fragile, and malevolent among us are attempting to exercise absolute power.

A cult is dictating culture.
4:02 AM · Jan 16, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteYou can speak the truth, or you can be woke.

It's not possible to be both, because the latter is a movement based on narrative untruths.
3:53 AM · Jan 17, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Tuosta listasta saa myös vähän viitteitä siitä, miksi woke-väki ja perinteinen valtamätä ovat niin hienosti löytäneet toisensa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 21.01.2021, 23:51:04
Pistetään tähän linkki toiseen ketjuun / James Lindsayn kirjoitukseen siitä, miksi woke / CSJ-porukka ei suostu väittelyihin.

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131606.msg3267269.html#msg3267269 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131606.msg3267269.html#msg3267269)

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 24.01.2021, 22:57:48
83-vuotias kansalaisoikeustaistelun veteraani kiittelee vuolaasti antifantteja ja woke-väkeä kaikesta heidän avustaan... Eipä tuossa sinänsä hirveästi uutta ole, vasurithan kaappaa kaikki tämäntapaiset liikkeet itselleen armottomalla paskanjauhamisella, ja käyttää sitten niitä ajaakseen omia tavoitteitaan.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-left-hijacked-civil-rights-11610748711?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/b9Fjir1lI9 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-left-hijacked-civil-rights-11610748711?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/b9Fjir1lI9) (15.1.)

QuoteHow the Left Hijacked Civil Rights

For centuries black Americans debated how to overcome racism—but they always emphasized human agency and individual responsibility.

(...)(...)

One of the original arguments to justify slavery was that blacks were morally inferior and thus incapable of self-government. John C. Calhoun famously asserted: "There is no instance of any civilized colored race of any shade being found equal to the establishment and maintenance of free government." Black efforts at self-liberation in the 19th and 20th centuries were based on the opposite assumption.

Today many black leaders defer to angry white progressives who make the same arguments about blacks' lack of moral agency, reject the country's founding principles, and seek to undermine its institutions. For months, the radical left has been exploiting the country's genuine concern for fairness to keep blacks in a constant state of agitation, anger and grievance, urging them toward behavior that lives down to the slanderous stereotypes of white supremacists. The leaders of these movements insist that every inequity suffered by blacks is caused by institutional and structural racism, that they have no power to liberate themselves, and that they will remain oppressed until white people change. Even to raise the issue of what role self-determination plays for blacks earns you the label of "racist."

Civil-rights organizations and their leadership, as well as the Congressional Black Caucus, need to wake up before it's too late. A faction of black leaders has been silent about, or complicit in, the takeover of the civil-rights movement by the radical left. The effect of this is not to glorify black achievement but to crucify low-income blacks, who are represented in national media outlets by their worst-behaved members, and bear the brunt of the attacks by the woke radical left on the cities where they live.

"Justice" for black America cannot be achieved by framing it solely through the distorted lens of the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and others in fatal police encounters. For every unarmed black American killed by the police, hundreds are killed in neighborhood homicides.

Those who call for the defunding of police departments, such as leaders of the official Black Lives Matter organization, are silent about this inconvenient truth. They have a narrative and cannot let the facts get in the way. Their story is that the whole of American history is stained and the whole of America must be overthrown.  (...)

Like all Americans, blacks have triumphed over their circumstances only when they have adopted bourgeois virtues such as hard work, respect for learning, self-discipline, faith and personal responsibility. In the 19th century, Frederick Douglass found reading to be the key to his own personal liberation amid slavery, and he understood that whites deliberately withheld literacy from blacks precisely because it was so valuable. Bourgeois values drove blacks to build the powerful religious, fraternal, and other voluntary associations that helped them thrive in the worst days of Jim Crow and cultivated the essential virtues in the next generation.

There would have been no civil-rights movement without this. But radical progressives now insist that such virtues are the legacy of white supremacy, colonialist values that reflect the continuing bondage of blacks to oppressive Western culture. The only "authentic" expression of blackness in America, they claim, is the opposite of bourgeois self-restraint and discipline—indulging in the passions of the moment, whether anarchic rioting, insulting teachers or other unsalutary forms of expression. The radical left—disdaining exhortations toward work, family and faith as "respectability politics"—argues that blacks should feel free to indulge their "true" nature, echoing the age-old white-supremacist notion that said nature is violent, lascivious and incapable of self-restraint.

The slave masters' trick of old was to dissuade blacks from adopting bourgeois values precisely so they could be kept in servitude. (...)

We must turn away from the present course, which preaches despair rather than hope. Black achievement must be glorified. The crucifixion of black America by the radical left must halt. There is a grander, more fruitful future for us all.

Mutta konservatiivithan niitä rassisteja ovat...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 30.01.2021, 13:22:35
James Lindsayn kirjoitus CSJ-poppoon "juutalaisuus-ongelmasta". Todella "hauskaa", kun Suomessakin wokeväki koko ajan syyttää PS:n kannattajia antisemitismistä, vaikka itse ovat tuossa(kin) suhteessa verrannollisia pahimpiin, todellisiin uusnatseihin. Kirjoitus on Lindsayn tyyliin taas pitkä kuin nälkävuosi, tässä nyt vain kohtuullisen lyhyitä pätkiä.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/10/critical-race-theorys-jewish-problem/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/10/critical-race-theorys-jewish-problem/) (22.10.2020)

QuoteCritical Race Theory's Jewish Problem

Critical Race Theory has a Jewish problem, and, finally, people are beginning to notice. "Stop being shocked," implores Bari Weiss, formerly of the New York Times, writing for the Jewish commentary magazine Tablet. Stop starting off sentences with "can you believe...?" It's a staggering article that cannot be recommended highly enough.

To understand the enormity of the change we are now living through, take a moment to understand America as the overwhelming majority of its Jews believed it was—and perhaps as we always assumed it would be. It was liberal. Not liberal in the narrow, partisan sense, but liberal in the most capacious and distinctly American sense of that word: the belief that everyone is equal because everyone is created in the image of God. ... No longer. American liberalism is under siege. There is a new ideology vying to replace it.


Weiss is correct in her diagnosis and in her identification of the underpinnings of the new ideology replacing liberalism. She describes it as "a mixture of postmodernism, postcolonialism, identity politics, neo-Marxism, critical race theory, intersectionality, and the therapeutic mentality," to which we should add at least a few drops of the Rousseauian assignment of primacy to instinct, emotion, intuition, feelings, and passion over reason and evidence. The only place her description leaves anything to be desired is in her claim that "No one has yet decided on the name for the force that has come to unseat liberalism." That may well be the case in that we haven't decided on the name we'll use for this ideology, but it does have a name. This ideology is called by at least some of its proponents by the name "Critical Social Justice." In short, Critical Social Justice—colloquially "Wokeness"—is a toxic fusion of cherry-picked aspects of the many lines of thought just identified, each chosen for its practical utility in advancing its particular line of fundamentally anti-liberal activism.

QuoteThis wretched analysis positions Jews very badly in a paradigm that is only equipped to think about race in terms of zero-sum conflicts for societal standing and resources. Jewish "whiteness" is believed to be established beyond a shadow of a doubt not just by the (allegedly false) embrace by "white" society but also by having thrown blacks under the bus. This status is made more concrete by reframing Jewish success in many industries as having usurped the hyper-privileged mantle of being the top producers and influencers of "white culture." And all the while, the Jews can point to millennia of oppression and a Holocaust that some, now very few, can still remember surviving.

Here, then we discover a straightforward contradiction that Critical Race Theory is poorly equipped to resolve: in the final analysis, are (white) Jews oppressed or oppressors? This question is generative of the fundamental and unavoidable contradiction that deserves to be called Critical Race Theory's Jewish problem. (...)

That is to say, Critical Race Theory interprets very badly, bordering on horrifically, the fundamental contradiction it, itself, produces by adopting an anti-liberal stance and assigning Jews to privilege within it. It views Jews, or Ashkenazim at least, as not only as being white but also as occupying the highest echelons of privilege within a white society that has embraced them in a way that multiplied other axes of racial oppression deemed ideologically fatal to the entire project of liberalism. Simultaneously, it sees them as the bearers of a kind of shield that prevents them from their necessary obligation of "checking their privilege" so long as they identify first as Jews and only later as "white" and believe the history that makes them who they are has any truth and significance to it. That is, Critical Race Theory interprets Jewish status as being rather illegitimately placed among the most privileged in society even while they enjoy an even further privilege in not having to accept themselves as such. If anti-Semitism is a hatred of Jews born of believing them to be illegitimately privileged, this kind of analysis is quite literally the stuff of horrors.

QuoteThe physical safety of Jews—and of Israel—depends upon liberalism and thus cannot be guaranteed by anything that accepts Critical Race Theory and Postcolonial Theory. Those two, together, like so many hideous ideologies before them, generate a Jewish question they cannot answer which results in a Jewish problem they cannot solve.

Critical Social Justice has a Jewish problem. Jews are Theorized at the height of white privilege—illegitimately and to the detriment of other minorities—and as the minority usurpers of the coveted status of being "the interpreters of white society." Yet they also carry an ironclad reason not to "interrogate" that privilege as the Critical Theories of Social Justice demand of them, which Theory must therefore dismiss as illegitimate. Furthermore, Jews are not just complicit in whiteness but also in one of the most intolerable acts of Western colonialism that Theory takes umbrage with: the establishment of the state of Israel on land it deems wholly Palestinian. This crime they can also plausibly deny on the grounds that they were, in fact, driven from that, their indigenous, land in acts of unequivocal acts of oppression and genocidal violence.

In Theory, Jews aren't just at the height of privilege in their whiteness and in an unjustly granted colony in Israel. They're also deemed privileged even further by having a cultural history that liberal people rightly believe is characterized by millennia of systemic oppression. They're a dominant group that nobody outside of Theory—least of all themselves—regards as dominant.

These are evil ideas that are new only in their outermost manifestation: "whiteness," "colonizer," "settler." They, are anti-Semitism that, like their predecessors, are the results of forcing bad solutions to fundamental contradictions that necessarily arise from within the bowels of impoverished and illiberal social theories. In liberalism, as Weiss observes, we have at the heart "the idea that we should judge each person not by their station or their family lineage but by their deeds" and "that human beings have agency," which she also notes "are revolutionary ideas that are, at root, Hebrew ones." In Theory, one's station—called "positionality"—is the main dimension of judgment and human beings who lack a critical consciousness—who aren't "Woke" and in agreement with Theory—necessarily have a false consciousness, like "internalized dominance," and no true agency.

At the moment, we are losing liberalism to Critical Social Justice, which isn't just inimical to liberal beliefs but also believes they must be torn out by the roots—which, if Weiss is right, will include Hebrew roots. This simple truth, hard-learned so many times before about shallow social theory, is a danger to us all. It poses a particular, though not wholly unique, danger to Jews.

For the present, there is still some daylight between Woke anti-Semitism and older, more recognizable forms of Jew-hatred, but there's no guarantee that will stay the case. Indeed, the edifice already seems to be crumbling. It's worth stating, then, that the only difference between historical applications of ideologically driven anti-Semitism and Woke anti-Semitism, then, is that the current approach comes at the issue in an apparently novel way by shoehorning Jew-hatred into a drastically oversimplified framework of American racial history—one with a great deal of current cultural cache—which is to say that the differences are mostly a matter of window dressing and time. That is to except one other difference: those have no positive branding and no Jewish support, whereas Woke anti-Semitism currently enjoys a reasonable degree of both.

Critical Social Justice is, in its vulgar simplicity and pretentious racism, neither sophisticated nor liberal enough to handle the straightforward facts of Jewish life and history, which make an inconvenient misfit to its profoundly inadequate notions of social power and conflict. It must therefore be said that this paucity of sophistication and liberalism within Theory render the contradictions at hand both unavoidable and irreconcilable for Theory. This, in turn, defines a fundamental and intolerable Jewish problem in Critical Social Justice that, if history writes any guide, will find its "resolution" in the decrees of the Theorists, if they become sufficiently empowered. We must not allow this to happen.

"Hauskintahan" tässä tosiaan on se, että (kuten esim. akez on Hommalla kuvaillut) suuri osa valtamedioista, jotka ajavat tuota CSJ-sontaa, ovat juutalaisten omistuksessa. Kertonee lähinnä ehkä vain siitä, että nuo superrikkaat ovat täysin lahoja ihmisiä, joille ainoastaan raha ja valta merkitsee yhtään mitään. Ja tuo CSJ-sontahan on juuri sellainen työkalu, jolla saadaan rahvas tappelemaan keskenään (ja jättämään superrikkaat ja megakorporaatiot rauhaan). Ja tietenkin myös sellainen, millä voidaan tarvittaessa perustella ihan mitä julmuuksia tahansa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.01.2021, 21:32:43
Quote from: zupi on 30.01.2021, 13:22:35
"Hauskintahan" tässä tosiaan on se, että (kuten esim. akez on Hommalla kuvaillut) suuri osa valtamedioista, jotka ajavat tuota CSJ-sontaa, ovat juutalaisten omistuksessa. Kertonee lähinnä ehkä vain siitä, että nuo superrikkaat ovat täysin lahoja ihmisiä, joille ainoastaan raha ja valta merkitsee yhtään mitään.

Yksi vähän erikoisempi selitys olisi se, että joku haluaa juutalaiset kotiin Israeliin, jolloin Israel olisi vasta sen jälkeen "asianmukaisesti" perustettu*. Mitä enemmän juutalaisia vainotaan muualla, sitä halukkaammin he muuttavat Israeliin. Minne he eivät muuten haluaisi muuttaa, suurkaupungeista keskelle aavikkoa arabien sekaan.

* Googlaa "yksi sukupolvi israelin perustamisesta" jos maailmanloput ennustukset kiinnostavat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 01.02.2021, 22:07:53
Bari Weissin vinkkejä taisteluun woke-hulluutta vastaan.

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Quote10 ways to fight back against woke culture

(...)

America is imperfect. (Does it even need to be said?) There is bigotry toward blacks and gays and Jews and immigrants; there is intense polarization; (...)

But there is no gulag in America. There are no laws permitting honor killings. There is no formal social credit system of the kind that exists right now in China. By any measure, we have achieved incredible progress and enjoy extraordinary freedoms. And yet people aren't acting that way. They are acting, increasingly, like subjects in a totalitarian country.

(...)

How much does it cost me to log on to Twitter and accuse you, right now, of an -ism? America is fast developing its own informal social credit system, as the writer Rod Dreher has noted, in which people with the wrong politics or online persona are banned from social media sites and online financial networks.

When everything is recorded for eternity, when making mistakes and taking risks are transformed into capital offenses, when things that were common sense until two seconds ago become unsayable, people make the understandable decision to simply shut up.

Do not nod along when you hear the following: That Abraham Lincoln's name on a public school or his likeness on a statue is white supremacy. (It is not; he is a hero.) That separating people into racial affinity groups is progressive. (It is a form of segregation.) That looting has no victims (untrue) and that small-business owners can cope anyway because they have insurance (nonsense). That any disparity of outcome is evidence of systemic oppression (false). That America is evil. (It is the last hope on Earth.)

This list could go on for a thousand pages. These may have become conventional wisdom in certain circles, but they are lies.

Yet too many good people are sacrificing the common good, and therefore their long-term security, for the sake of short-term comfort.
Abraham Lincoln High School in San Francisco is at risk of being renamed by woke city leaders.

It's time to stand up and fight back. That means you. Social conservatives. Never-Trump Republicans, and anti-anti-Trump Republicans, too. Lukewarm liberals and libertarians. Progressives who have a little curiosity still left. Exhausted parents who want nothing to do with politics. Joe Rogan stans. Reddit revolutionaries and the hedgies getting crushed. Facebookers and email chainers and Etsy-shop owners and Boomers who still use AOL accounts. Start with the following 10 principles:
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https://nypost.com/2021/01/31/10-ways-to-fight-back-against-woke-culture/amp/?__twitter_impression=true (https://nypost.com/2021/01/31/10-ways-to-fight-back-against-woke-culture/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)

Lainaussääntöjen puitteissa vinkit pitää käydä lukemassa alkuperäisestä artikkelista. Omasta mielestäni tuo yllä oleva oli oleellisempaa. Siis se, että ihmiset edes tajuaisivat tämän nykyisen tilanteen.

Niin, ja tuon "Amerikan" tilalle voi mielestäni aika huoletta, tai jopa vielä suuremmalla syyllä, heittää Suomen.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 03.02.2021, 14:11:35
Multikulttuurisuudesta yms:

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/why-world-cultural-relativism-descendents/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/why-world-cultural-relativism-descendents/)

Kirjoitus on kiinnostava erityisesti tämän vuoksi:

QuoteThis article was originally published in September, 2000, at Le Québécois Libre, it is reproduced with permission from the author.

http://www.quebecoislibre.org/younkins26.html (http://www.quebecoislibre.org/younkins26.html)

QuoteWhy the World is the Way It Is: Cultural Relativism and Its Descendents

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Cultural relativism wrongly claims that each culture has its own distinct but equally valid mode of perception, thought, and choice. Cultural relativism, the opposite of the idea that moral truth is universal and objective, contends there is no such thing as absolute right and wrong. There is only right and wrong as specified by the moral code of each society. Within a particular society, a standard of right and wrong can be inviolate. Cultural relativism maintains that man's opinion within a given culture defines what is right and wrong.

Cultural relativism is the mistaken idea that there are no objective standards by which our society can be judged because each culture is entitled to its own beliefs and accepted practices. No one can object to any society's intolerance that reflects its indigenous worldview. Because there is no objective moral truth that pertains to all people and for all times, one moral code is no better or no worse than any other (i.e., the moral equivalence doctrine). Thus, we should not impose our values on other societies. (...)

Multiculturalism, racism, postmodernism, deconstructionism, political correctness, and social engineering are among cultural relativism's "intellectual" descendents.  (...)

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Multiculturalism

The main idea of multiculturalism is the equal value of all cultures (i.e., cultural relativism). However, multiculturalism does not mean cultures as normally understood but rather as biologically defined (i.e., ethnically, racially, or sexually defined) groups. Multiculturalism, a politicized form of cultural relativism, rejects the idea that there are general truths, norms, or rules with respect to both knowledge and morals. Gone are the Enlightenment beliefs in objectivity, reason and evidence, and principles of freedom and justice that apply equally to all individuals. Unlike cultural relativism, multiculturalism excludes one worldview from the realm of equally valid worldviews—the Eurocentric Western perspective based on the contributions of dead white males. Multiculturalists dismiss the significance of Western civilization by claiming that Western traditions of elitism, racism, and sexism are the cause of most of our current problems. They accept a Romantic view of human nature as beneficent and benign until it was corrupted by flawed Western ideology and culture.

Multiculturalism implies that race, ethnicity, and sex (or sexual preference) have an inescapable effect on the way people think and/or the values they hold or are capable of holding.  (...) Multiculturalism thus destroys an individual's confidence in his own mind—this occurs when a person allows his group to tell him what to believe.

At one time, truth was viewed as transcendent, fixed, and unchanging. (...) For the multiculturalist, truth only exists by consensus within each biologically defined group.

Multiculturalism is anti-individualistic in the sense that it expects each person to agree with the perceptions, thoughts, and judgments of his group in order for his own perceptions, thoughts, and judgments to be legitimate. The multiculturalist believes that a person's thoughts are either the collectively constructed thoughts of his racial, ethnic, or sexual group or are the thoughts foisted upon him by the dominant white male worldview. A ruling premise of multiculturalism is that ethnic origin carries with it irrevocable attributes—if a person has a certain name and physical features, then he must have a particular perspective on life and the world. Multiculturalists assign each rational and autonomous individual into a group based on the group's specific, absolute, and nondebatable dissemblances from other groups.

(...)

The victim mentality is both a cause and effect of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism promotes a culture of victims who have a perpetual claim on society and the government. The result is the division of society into political interest groups with conflicting demands that cannot all be met.

Educational proposals from multiculturalists attempt to inculcate in students the idea that Western classical liberal order is, in fact, the most oppressive order of all times. (...)

There would be no harm in multiculturalism if the term simply meant that we should acknowledge and teach truths about many cultures. It is admirable to teach students both the noblest aspects of various cultures and of their failings. Unfortunately, multiculturalism's pluralism and relativism has engendered a reluctance to acknowledge anything positive about Western culture while concurrently maintaining a nonreflective and approving position toward non-Western and minority ideas. Students are taught that no "properly educated" person would be willing to pass judgment on another culture. If a student should deny the equality of all cultures he would be told he was guilty of "ethnocentrism."

(...) Some cultures are better than others: reason is better than force; a free society is superior to slavery; and productivity is better than stagnation.

Multiculturalists argue that education can build the self-esteem of minority students by presenting non-Western cultures in a favorable light in order to compensate for historical and curricular injustices, thereby restoring cultural parity between ethnic groups. Replacing education with therapy, the multiculturalist attempts to enhance self-esteem by teaching the students of oppressed cultures to be proud of their particular ancestry or race. This will only work if there are laudable truths that can be taught about a student's ethnic heritage. When education is turned into therapy, the likely result is to teach history not to ascertain truth but to empower (i.e., enhance the self-esteem) of various factions. The result is the introduction of distortions, half-truths, fabrications, and myths into the curriculum in order to make students from certain groups feel good. In addition, multiculturalists denounce the emphasis in American schools on American history and culture and western civilization. Some even portray western civilization and Americans as evil and ideas such as reason and objective truth as Eurocentric (and patriarchal for the feminist) biases with the purpose of exploiting oppressed cultures.

(...)

Students are instructed that there are no objective merits or failings of theories, arguments, policies, works of art, and literature, etc. Instead, they are only valorizations of power that require deconstruction in order to reveal their true nature as devices of repression. It is Marxism that has provided multiculturalism with its rationale and concepts (e.g., oppression, imperialism, inequality, revolutionary change) that are used to devalue and destroy American culture.

The goal of the multiculturalist is to change the United States from a culturally assimilated society to an unassimilated multicultural society with a wide range of cultures and subcultures accorded equal status. Multiculturalism promotes quotas rather than competition, allocating resources rather than earning them, and a cabinet that looks like America instead of one that has an adequate background to do the required job. Multiculturalists fail to see that the diversity methods they use to find and create diversity will, in fact, divide the country. The result will be a widespread, societal tendency toward hatred, revenge, or belief in the innate superiority of one's group and a feeling of solidarity and self-righteousness.

Racism

Racism, a type of multiculturalism, is the erroneous idea that a person's race determines his identity. It is the belief that one's values, beliefs, and character are determined by one's ancestry rather than by the judgments of one's mind. In the name of diversity and multiculturalism many Americans are taught to base their sense of self in their racial or ethnic identity. In fact, "critical race theory" contends that there is no reality independent of a person's ethnicity, no universal rules of logic, and no objective facts. Accordingly, each person is destined to interpret events according to the sentiments of his racial group. Such an attack on reason creates a herd mentality by which people thoughtlessly follow those who proclaim themselves to be the leaders.

Racial preference is the common ingredient of the diversity movement (i.e., diversity awareness, training, hiring, admissions, accommodations, etc.). Proponents do not realize that racism cannot be cured with more racism. When people are taught to think in racial terms instead of according to individual merit and character, and groups are identified as having special status (e.g., affirmative action programs), the logical result is likely to be warranted resentment and indignation.

Obviously, the rational and proper approach is to evaluate candidates based on individual merit. This simply means appraising candidates based on their possession of relevant knowledge and skills, their willingness to exert the requisite effort, and their possession of a good moral character.

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Individualism is the only acceptable alternative to racism. It is essential to recognize that each person is a sovereign entity with the power of independent judgment and choice.

Political Correctness

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Political correctness (and multiculturalism) threatens free speech in both the academic sphere and the nonacademic workplace and ultimately the very foundation of American society. The government has, in essence, eliminated most free speech protection in the workplace. Free speech, which is an economic good to academics through which they make their living, has fared somewhat better in the educational world.

Broadly conceived, political correctness includes a number of initiatives such as: altering vocabularies in order not to offend particular groups, affirmative action in admissions and hiring, multicultural education, and broadening the scope of classical texts to include those written by minority authors and women. Then there are the workshops in which people are taught by "experts" how to be attuned to others' feelings and how to avoid being found guilty of "sexual harassment," "racial insensitivity," and so on.

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The Philosophy of Social Engineering: A Recent Descendent of Cultural Relativism

The philosophy of social engineering, as reflected in contemporary civil rights policies and agendas, is primarily based on five concepts: collectivism, determinism, economic egalitarianism, elitism, and historical victimization. Multiculturalism, a merger of collectivism and determinism, asserts that no person can avoid the forces imposed by race, ethnicity, gender, etc. Fortunately, according to the proponents of social engineering, there exists an elite able to remedy historical victimization. (...)

The elite includes individuals and groups who far exceed the general population in intellect, morality, and dedication to the "common good." Their general superiority enables them to use their articulated rationality to function as surrogate decision makers in governmental economic and social planning. Their special wisdom, knowledge, virtue, compassion, commitment, and intentions qualify them to guide the actions of the many either through articulation or force. Because the elite tend to assume that human nature is infinitely malleable, they attempt to mold the nature of the people according to their superior judgments and advanced views.

(...)

In his Tyranny of Reason, Yuval Levin explains that the social scientific outlook holds that society and man can be understood through scientific study and that truth in the social world is essentially no different than truth found by science in nature.  (...)

Approaching the human world from the perspective of scientific certainty constrains man's freedom, robs people of a sense of control, and encourages people to hand over their fates to social engineers who believe in the inevitable progress of mankind and in their own superior ability to discover, comprehend, and predict the proper arrangement of society and the underlying truths of the human world. Of course, the knowledge needed by these social architects and constructivists is unattainable––the best we can achieve is partial knowledge of the human world.

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Western Culture Is Objectively Superior

Today, many intellectuals claim that Western culture is not any better (some say it is worse) than other cultures. In addition, they argue that there are no objective standards that can be used to evaluate the moral merit or demerit of various cultures.

In reality, the superiority of Western culture can be objectively demonstrated when cultures are appraised based on the only befitting standard for judging a society or culture—the extent to which its core values are life affirming or antilife. Prolife culture recognizes and honors man's nature as a rational being who needs to discern and produce the circumstances that his survival and flourishing require. Such a culture would promote reason, man's natural rights, productivity, science, and technology. Western culture, the prime example of this type of culture, exhibits levels of freedom, opportunity, health, wealth, productivity, innovation, satisfaction, comfort, and life expectancy unprecedented in history.

Western civilization represents man at his best. It embodies the values that make life as a man possible—freedom, reason, individualism, and man's natural rights; capitalism, self-reliance, and self-responsibility based on free will and achievement; the need for limited, republican representative government and the rule of law; language, art, and literature depicting man as efficacious in the world; and science and technology, the rules of logic, and the idea of causality in a universe governed by natural laws intelligible to man. These values, the values of Western civilization, are values for all men cutting across ethnicity, geography, and gender.

Kirjoituksen multikultti-osuudesta näytti olevan maininta Hommalla jo aiemmin:

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,25081.msg335149.html#msg335149 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,25081.msg335149.html#msg335149)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 03.02.2021, 15:15:13
V...n hienosti toi Lancetkin vetää...  >:(  Ettei vaan olisi tällä Lancetin viime aikoina kehittyneellä rotutietoisuudella jotain yhteyttä The Great Resettiin Karmeaan Kusetukseen...

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30536-2/fulltext#%20 (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30536-2/fulltext#%20) (1.2.2021)

QuoteTime to take critical race theory seriously: moving beyond a colour-blind gender lens in global health

In 2020, as worldwide protests demanded racial justice, the COVID-19 pandemic shed a stark light on racial inequities in global health: one need look no further than the disproportionate burden shouldered by Black and other racial minority groups in the Americas and Europe.1

Yet, despite the purported racial reckoning of the moment, the global health community has been slow to consciously centre race in our work. This seeming racial inertia persists despite fervent advocacy and conceptual rigour around addressing gender inequity, even in the face of ample awareness of the intertwined disadvantages faced worldwide by women who are racial minorities.2,  3

As women of colour scholars, practitioners, and educators whose work addresses race, gender, and class inequity, we recognise that it is vitally important to take a gender lens to addressing health inequities. But this gendered perspective must not be unidimensional. We now call upon our colleagues, particularly influencers in high-income countries, to meaningfully engage with critical race theory, a transdisciplinary intellectual movement to understand and disrupt systemic racism. Of particular relevance to these efforts is the concept of intersectionality, a central tenet of critical race theory coined by Kimberlé Crenshaw to describe how multiple social categorisations—such as race and gender—interact and confer interlocking oppressions and privileges.4

This intentional centring of race in global health will help to achieve the mutually reinforcing goals of eradicating both racial and gender inequity. As a point of departure, we articulate the multiple racial contexts of the global health sector, with the aim of moving beyond a colour-blind gender lens.

We are pleased that scholars and advocates of global health and gender now acknowledge the importance of explicating the interlocking oppressions of gender inequity and racism, among other "-isms".2,  5

For decades, the concept of intersectionality has been foundational to scholarship addressing systemic racism, most prominently in the USA with respect to simultaneous oppressions due to race and gender.4,  6

Nowadays, concepts such as intersectionality are also applied to other social categories, such as religion, nationality, and socioeconomic status.3

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As delineated in Ford and Airhihenbuwa's Public Health Critical Race Praxis,6 we must first develop a consciousness about the intersecting racial contexts of global health work. The notion of racial consciousness should ring familiar to those who use a gender lens to understand how health is influenced by gendered biases and norms. Like gender's problematic binary of male versus female, race is a complex social construct with biological implications, the classifications of which vary across history and geography.8

(...)

At national, subnational, and community levels, systemic racism is often embedded in policies and hegemonic Euro-American sociocultural frameworks. (...) Within each context, acknowledgement and redress of racialised, gendered power imbalances are long overdue.

Current impassioned conversations about systemic racism present an opportunity to embrace race as an omnipresent factor influencing global health practice, research, and outcomes. This racial consciousness needs to be part and parcel of our efforts to address gender inequity worldwide. Now, more than ever, we must centre our work on people at the racial margins, in each of the intersecting racial contexts of the global health sector. Only then will we develop an essential sense of humility and self-awareness to be antiracist in our work.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 07.02.2021, 01:07:05
Aika kuvaava kertomus woke-kultin voittamattomasta kusipäisyydestä heidän levittäessä omia näkemyksiään. Pyritään tekemään etenkin haavoittuvassa asemassa olevat ihmiset tietyssä mielessä riippuvaisiksi woke-porukan avusta, ja sitten aletaan pakkosyöttämään sitä agendaa. Ja kun lähes kaikki yhteiskunnan virallisetkin instituutiot ovat nykyisin tuon woke-porukan hallussa, niin mikäs siinä edistellessä. Jos et alistu niin huonosti käy, tavalla tai toisella.

QuoteDenounce Black Peter – or else!

How a London loneliness charity excluded an old man for not conforming to its anti-racist agenda

John looked forward to his regular Zoom meetings with South London Cares, a charity that's part of a group of five similar non-profits set up by an ex-Labour spin doctor called Alex Smith. Established in 2014, its raison d'être is to introduce older people living on their own to community-minded young professionals in the hope of making them feel less lonely. (...)

But all that changed on 2 December 2020. John was in a Zoom meeting called "South London Stories", along with two dozen others, when one of the young thrusters raised the subject of Zwarte Piet (Black Peter). (...) Needless to say, Zwarte Piet has been the subject of considerable controversy in these countries, with critics claiming the character is a legacy of their colonial past. Nonetheless, he remains a popular figure in Holland, with most Dutch citizens supporting the tradition and saying they don't regard Zwarte Piet as racist.

(...) He wasn't inclined to vigorously defend the tradition, which he didn't know much about, but he didn't think it was right to condemn the folklore of another culture. John is well-travelled and he's learnt not to be too judgmental when it comes to other people's traditions. So when it was his turn to speak he said he didn't find the character particularly offensive.

Afterwards, he got a call from a South London Cares employee who told him he'd given the wrong answer. Zwarte Piet was a racist tradition (...) But it was a hurtful thing to say nonetheless and his comment had been recorded as an "overt act of racism". He was told that he was being given a formal warning and if he wanted to avoid a "red notice", which would result in him being banned from any further meetings, he had to apologise to the group and commit to understanding where he went wrong so he could do better.

John was slightly taken aback. He had thought the charity wanted to make people like him feel wanted and loved and hadn't expected to be chided for being politically incorrect. (...) To John, it felt as if he was being asked to engage in some ritual of self-abasement – to apologise on behalf of the white race for the sins of colonialism and slavery.

Many people in his position would have crumbled under this pressure, but not John. He politely explained that he had nothing to apologise for – he couldn't help it if he didn't find Zwarte Piet offensive – and a few weeks later he received an official letter telling him he'd been banned.

(...)

To my weathered eye, there was another explanation: South London Cares, like so many other charities, may have been captured by the woke cult. (...) Instead of mobilising young professionals to provide support and companionship to older people, its mission is to re-educate these unenlightened dinosaurs — creating a valuable social network and then threatening them with excommunication if they don't produce the right Pavlovian responses to "racist stereotypes".

In the letter John received telling him he was no longer welcome, the charity included a long list of thoughtcrimes, including "microassaults", "microinvalidation" and "microinsults" ("Suggesting a black volunteer and black neighbour may get along based on skin colour"). (...)

Needless to say, South London Cares receives plenty of money from the state (...)

https://thecritic.co.uk/denounce-black-peter-or-else/ (https://thecritic.co.uk/denounce-black-peter-or-else/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 07.02.2021, 15:27:51
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Jos englanti on hallussa, niin vahva suositus katsoa jälleen koko Lindsayn haastattelu. Ei itse jaksa useinkaan noita jauhamisia kuunnella, mutta tuota kaveria on kyllä ilo kuunnella.

QuoteFor this exclusive YouTube special, Sebastian talks to author James Lindsay about the true motivations behind Critical Race Theory and other radical ideas that are behind the Biden agenda.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gYygcUw-VJE&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gYygcUw-VJE&feature=youtu.be)

Enpä muuten itse tiennyt, että wikipedia poisti 1.5 kuukautta sitten kulttuurimarxismi-sivun, ja korvasi sen kulttuurimarxismi salaliittoteoria-sivulla (noin kohta 22:00). Kertoo aika paljon siitä, missä mennään...

QuoteCultural Marxism is a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory which claims Western Marxism as the basis of continuing academic and intellectual efforts to subvert Western culture.[1][2][3] The conspiracists claim that an elite of Marxist theorists and Frankfurt School intellectuals are subverting Western society with a culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and promotes the cultural liberal values of the 1960s counterculture and multiculturalism, progressive politics and political correctness, misrepresented as identity politics created by critical theory.[2][3][4]

While the theory originated in the United States during the 1990s,[5](Abstract) it entered mainstream discourse in the 2010s and is promoted globally.[5] Today, the conspiracy theory of Marxist culture war is promoted by right-wing politicians, fundamentalist religious leaders, political commentators in mainstream print and television media and white supremacist terrorists.[6] Scholarly analysis of the conspiracy theory has concluded that it has no basis in fact and is not based on any actual intellectual tendency.[5][7]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory)

Erikseen on sitten annettu tällainen linkki:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_cultural_analysis (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxist_cultural_analysis)

Siellä asiat selvitetään luotettavalla ja vastuullisella tavalla... Ja muistetaan tietenkin myös mainita:

QuoteThe tradition of Marxist cultural analysis since the 1930s has occasionally also been referred to as "cultural Marxism".[5][6] Since the 1990s, the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory emerged, a highly influential discourse on the far right without any clear relationship to Marxist cultural analysis.[7][8]

Että silleen...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 10.02.2021, 00:47:38
Lindsayn uusin pläjäys, enpä ole itsekään vielä tuota kokonaan lukenut (näytti olevan wordissa noin 60 sivua). Itse kun en oikeastaan tarvi mitään vakuutteluja siitä, että CSJ / wokehulluus on uskonto... Ja vieläpä oikein sellainen rauhanuskonto.

Tässä nyt siis vain johdanto, kirjoituksen kahden pääosan loppupätkät, sekä yhteenveto. Loput linkistä, jos kiinnostaa.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/09/first-amendment-case-freedom-from-woke-religion/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/09/first-amendment-case-freedom-from-woke-religion/)

QuoteA First-Amendment Case for Freedom from the Woke Religion

Introduction

The question of whether or not the worldview and practice—for practice it intentionally is—going variously by the names "Social Justice," "Critical Social Justice," or, more colloquially, "Woke" constitutes a religion is one of some general interest that seems to be growing. Until quite recently, we maintained the luxury of not having to treat the matter more deeply than as something of a curio of sociocultural philosophy, however important the issue may be. I have contended, for example, that Critical Social Justice constitutes a religion of sorts (a postmodern one, as I laid it out at considerable length; a nominally "anti-racist" one, as Columbia University professor John McWhorter is tackling it currently, at book length) and must be thought of as such, at least by everyday citizens—though not by the law. Those were simpler times.

Now things are quite different and much more serious, so a much more serious inquiry is demanded of us. This escalation arrives not so much due to the externally obvious reasons like how profoundly parallel to religion Critical Social Justice and its practice have become—literally washing black people's feet in the streets through tearful apologies against whiteness—but more because of its rapid and seemingly unstoppable penetration into our public institutions, including government at every level and, more importantly, our public schools.

It is nearly always a question of considerable importance and some urgency when an ideology, especially when it comprises a totalizing worldview, decides that it is to be the fundamental basis for how we organize society and educate our children, to say nothing of other legal concerns. This, to be certain, is happening now with astonishing rapidity. The overwhelming majority of our schools systems' teacher training over the summer of 2020, to prepare teachers for the new mostly-online educational demands for the coming fall term, have been heavily, if not exclusively, about issues pertinent to Critical Social Justice. Our government agencies at all levels are taking on the basic principles and tenets of this belief system as matters of both policy and recommendation.

With astonishing speed, a shocking number of our nation's school systems have taken up explicitly critical—as in Critical Theory—educational approaches that focus on teaching identity politics, "anti-racism," and about the systems of power that the Critical Social Justice worldview assumes exists in everything. States like Washington, California, and New York are openly adopting "Ethnic Studies" programs that revamp their entire educational systems in line with Critical Social Justice so extreme that they seek to replace math with "ethnomathematics" and history with critical "hxstory." These changes come alongside other equally questionable practices with even more jargon-heavy descriptions, all dedicated to awakening a "critical consciousness" of "anti-racism" through "cultural awareness" in our nation's children. Our curricula, we're told, have to be "decolonized." New curricula are explicitly based not only in Critical Theories of identity, but upon the critical historiography of the infamously revisionist (and Pulitzer Prize-winning) 1619 Project and the explicit dictates of the radical Black-power activism organization Black Lives Matter.

Meanwhile, a veritable war is going on regarding whether or not assessment (like standardized testing) is "racist," and excellence programs are being scrapped for being "inequitable.
" As parents react to this (often very negatively) by seeking to pull their kids out of our public schools in favor of homeschooling them, calls to abolish homeschooling are coming to the fore of the discussion from the priestly of this new faith, insisting that it is "racist" to teach one's own children at home because the state has a duty to teach them subjects like "Social Justice." These changes should facilitate the elimination of objective standards that will enable an increase in the ability to execute and hide rampant problems of applying discriminatory admissions policies at elite schools and universities, all in the name of "equity," which people are led to believe is a hallmark of group fairness.

Simultaneously, many of our government agencies and departments are taking on the tenets of Critical Social Justice, especially Critical Race Theory and its derivative, "anti-racism," as a matter of mandate. These entities include state and federal "departments of" as well as myriad government contractors and state funded entities, like National Public Radio (NPR). Even NASA, which is widely regarded as synonymous with scientific rigor, hosted "anti-racist" historian Ibram X. Kendi to lecture its employees on tenets of this Theoretical view of the world. This invitation is remarkable given that Kendi's explicit ambition is to pass an "anti-racist" Constitutional amendment that would permanently create and empower a de facto fourth branch of the American government dedicated to critically examining and unmaking any "racist" policy, defined as anything that ends up having certain (but not other) disparate outcomes by race. This invitation is even less alarming than the fact that Kendi's argument is being used in support of a California initiative to remove the anti-discrimination language from its state constitution in accordance with achieving equity and "anti-racism." Equally, if not more alarming, are that the Center for Disease Control has institutionalized tremendous quantities of this Theory (during a pandemic, no less), even while states officially declare "systemic racism" a kind of "public health crisis" that obviates any reasonable measures for pandemic mitigation if done in the name of "racial justice." Even large government contractors, like Sandia Laboratories, which handles extremely high-tech weaponry (including nuclear weaponry), have taken on this ideology deeply enough to have fallen into an internal "civil war" after a brave employee blew the whistle.

The matter of understanding Critical Social Justice, as the ideology is formally called, is, in some sense, no longer a mere philosophical issue (if it ever truly was). It's now an emergency, and as more and more people are noticing (or, it seems, hoping, as it would provide them with recourse that currently seems not to exist), it's likely to be a legal emergency. Unfortunately, very little legal architecture currently exists to do anything about the problem of this imposition of one particular belief system upon society via its most susceptible demographic—children. Further, perhaps due to failures of people like myself in the past few years, there has been very little push to generate this legal architecture in what is likely to be one of its strongest and most fruitful directions: identifying the Critical Social Justice worldview as a functionally religious worldview. This is required to open it up to the full machinery of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and its famous Establishment Clause, and would, at least, get it out of our school systems very quickly.

The argument, I think, needs to be opened up in earnest because we now face two incredible perils against the American ideal where it collides with the Critical Social Justice worldview, and these merit taking the issue and the risk that comes with it (legally protecting Critical Social Justice as a system of faith) very seriously. The first of these is the one I've already spent some time on pointing out: Critical Social Justice has already encroached deeply into our public education system and halls of government in the United States. In fact, this trend is accelerating to a pitch so extreme that complaints that schools are operating in the service of political indoctrination rather than as houses of a basic and liberal education, as they were initially conceived, are rapidly becoming plausible. The second is that a time may come in the not-distant future in which this totalizing and totalitarian worldview could be installed as the de facto state religion, even while it elides categorization as such. The state endorsement—or worse, enforcement—of any faith falls directly afoul of the protections the U.S. Constitution was written to ensure to individual citizens, and, in fact, to other systems of faith that would disagree with it. The question is, which totalizing worldviews that are not traditionally recognizable as faiths should be treated in the same way for the same reasons? While the answer to this question is not immediately clear, it must have to do with how they function in society and in the lives of those who believe them.

Therefore, to put it directly: It is my belief that the contents of the Critical Social Justice worldview should be protected as matters of private conscience only, and they should also be limited as such. That is, I want to contend that the Free-exercise and Establishment Clauses of the First Amendment apply to Critical Social Justice. It is therefore not merely a philosophical exercise to ask whether or not Critical Social Justice constitutes a religion but also a serious legal one that gets to the very core of what the American Experiment has always been about—freedom of belief and from state religion. It is my intention here to make this case as briefly as possible, which means it will still be very long.

Part I – The Philosophical Argument

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In Summary

I think this does a thorough job of summarizing the case that Critical Social Justice, as an ideological worldview, is very similar to religion in most of the relevant ways. It forms a moral community that is designed to meet the same psychosocial needs as religions are, though it is decentralized and disorganized (I have previously called it "disorganized religion," though "decentralized" might be nearer the mark). It provides a mythology, metaphysics, and moral law that binds the community and enables "divinity"-based psychosocial valuation of adherents and others, and this gives rise to clear "critical" duties of conscience in everyone the system can touch. It ontologically grounds its moral commandments against the long view from the End of History, as a kind of legacy-based moral lawgiver and adjudicator. It possesses its own epistemological framework as well—one rooted in the critical mythology of problematization and postmodern mythology of lived experience and discursive production. Since it proceeds from a mythology with its own creation myth, metaphysics, and moral law, this view is totalizing to those who adhere to it, as is typical of religious belief. This system of belief is, in fact, constructed along the same lines as how Augustine organized Christianity and Aquinas "proved" the existence of God. Finally, it gives way to fundamentalism of both types and manifests in puritanical form, which is something that, while it is not limited to religion, is very common within sects or cults that arise within religious movements and worldviews.

Part II: The Legal Argument

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A Functional Definition of Religion

At this point, at last, we can turn to Clements' functional definition of religion, and I think enough argument has been made so far that little or no elaboration afterward will be required to convince the reader that it is either met or very plausibly grounds for serious discussion about whether it is met. Clements gives the following definition (emphasis added):

Supplementing Judge Adams' idea of a comprehensive belief system that addresses fundamental questions with the notion of duties of conscience provides a workable definition of religion for purposes of the First Amendment. Taking these two ideas together, religion can be defined as a comprehensive belief system that addresses the fundamental questions of human existence, such as the meaning of life and death, man's role in the universe, and the nature of good and evil, and that gives rise to duties of conscience.

I am, given my background in mathematics and all I've written so far, tempted here to type only "quod erat demonstrandum." Clements, however, is more prudentially circumspect than that and offers a number of potential objections to his definition, some of which might bear relevance. The Objection for Marxism, discussed above, is one such argument. The one below, which in the case of Critical Social Justice I might call the Objection to Nihilism, remains:

Moreover, the proposed approach does require that the alleged religious belief play a certain role in the claimant's life: it must be part of a comprehensive belief system that addresses certain fundamental questions and gives rise to duties of conscience. Thus, the issue in a free exercise case is not simply whether the claimant sincerely believes that the belief or practice in question is a religious belief, but whether he sincerely believes that it plays the religious role in his life. The definition of that role provides a basis for the factfinder to question the nature of the belief, and to assess the claimant's sincerity, thereby reducing the likelihood of successful fraudulent claims.

It is clear that some faiths look upward to God while retaining awareness of sin, temptation, and evil, and their faithful tend to be enriched by this habit. Other faiths—particularly, puritanical ones—tend not to do this and look downward at sin that needs to be called out, temptation that must be avoided or repressed, and evil that must be destroyed. Their awareness of their God is remote and distant, a secondary feature of their faith, and they tend to see their God as a stern judge who will, in the end, adjudicate on the moral worth of their struggle against the evils of the world. Critical Social Justice is such a downward-oriented faith. The Eye at the End of History will know, as will the future generations between now and then, whether they stood for liberation or oppression. In this sense, while postmodernism might have been nihilistic, Critical Social Justice has taken up only traces of this blind negativity (particularly the blindness). For them, it is not that everything must be destroyed, just everything that maintains systemic oppression.

But Can It Be Believed?

This extraordinarily nonsensical set of beliefs about the world and willing embrace of self-serving double standards produces perhaps the most common difficulty I encounter when trying to tell people about Critical Social Justice: people really do believe it. It should be sufficiently clear to people, as families are literally being torn apart as a result of falling on different sides of the relevant issues, but perhaps more argument than this is needed.

The difficulty arises because to an outsider, the Theory of Critical Social Justice is simply unbelievable, if not blatantly self-contradictory, flatly ridiculous, and transparently unethical. It isn't clear how anyone could truly believe ideas like that there is no truth, only your "truth" and mine (communicated, no less, by smartphones equipped with GPS). Given the cartoonish conflict theory it inherited from late-stage, Marcusian neo-Marxism, which was made even more cartoonish by the identity-politicians who took it up in earnest (including black feminists like Angela Davis, radicals like the Weatherman Underground, and other Liberationist revolutionaries within the so-called New Left that emerged after One-Dimensional Man and the Vietnam War) and the ridiculous and unsustainable postmodernist break from truth, doubts the sincerity of Critical Social Justice advocates seem always at the heart of liberal and conservative reactions to descriptions of the worldview. Yeah, but does anybody really believe that?

I think the answer to this question, though, is undoubtedly in the affirmative—sincerity of belief and conviction to the faith are undeniably real—and the theologians of the movement, at the least, tell us this in the clearest possible terms. To them, objectivity is, as Robin DiAngelo has put it, "undesirable" and "an impossible goal." Thus, truth, in the objective sense that it could be shared as true by all people in all places and times regardless of their cultural milieu, does not exist (or is, at least, entirely inaccessible). Our comprehension of reality is wholly and radically subjectivist, so that reality becomes "realities," which are not comprehensible on shared terms but lived and interpreted through cultural paradigms that either align with systemic dominance or the attempt to liberate people from dominance.

This leads Critical Social Justice scholars (theologians) to compose and compile lists of tenets, which, in articulating just the "systemic racism" aspect of this belief system (while other dimensions of Theory admit other, parallel expressions), read like this example from DiAngelo, et al. One will notice that they form something of a creed (oppi, usko, uskontunnustus):

Racism exists today in both traditional and modern forms. Racism is an institutionalized, multilayered, multilevel system that distributes unequal power and resources between white people and people of color, as socially identified, and disproportionately benefits whites. All members of society are socialized to participate in the system of racism, albeit in varied social locations. All white people benefit from racism regardless of intentions. No one chose to be socialized into racism so no one is bad, but no one is neutral. To not act against racism is to support racism. Racism must be continually identified, analyzed and challenged. No one is ever done. The question is not "Did racism take place?" but rather "How did racism manifest in that situation?" The racial status quo is comfortable for most whites. Therefore, anything that maintains white comfort is suspect. The racially oppressed have a more intimate insight via experiential knowledge into the system of race than their racial oppressors. However, white professors will be seen as having more legitimacy, thus positionality must be intentionally engaged. Resistance is a predictable reaction to anti-racist education and must be explicitly and strategically addressed.

These are the core tenets developed by scholar-activists Heather Bruce, Robin DiAngelo, Gyda Swaney (Salish) and Amie Thurber at the National Race and Pedagogy Conference at Puget Sound University. They went on to be implemented explicitly at The Evergreen State College, presaging its descent into riotous madness in a way that bears every indication of having been implemented by true believers convinced not only of the capital-T Truth of these propositions but of their righteousness. In light of reading this creed and seeing its real-world implementation, perhaps first at Evergreen and now throughout our society, the question of whether this is, in fact, a religious creed becomes pressing. This lends considerable weight to the question of whether or not Critical Social Justice is a religion, not just by philosophical argument by also by legal argument. My case in this essay is that according to a functional legal argument with significant Supreme Court precedent, the answer to that question is yes. It is a credal faith exhibiting clear liturgical forms and epistolic writings that proceeds upon a recognizable Augustinian construct that it has cobbled together from various features of the Western canon, including progressive aspects of faith, the moral but not practical cores of liberal thought, anti-liberal Critical Theory, and anti-everything postmodernism.


Conclusion: What Now?

Given the situation we find ourselves in, in society today, this matter demands serious debate. If this argument is correct, Critical Social Justice must be protected under the Free-exercise Clause of the First Amendment, so that any who wish to hold this religious view for themselves as a matter of personal conscience must be protected in doing so. That is their fundamental right, and it shall not be infringed. In the same turn, the rest of us have fundamental rights to our own consciences as well, and Critical Social Justice has no standing upon which it can infringe upon them, or us. The Establishment Clause should remove Critical Social Justice from our schools, our administrative state, and the halls of our government, as this faith, like any other, cannot receive state endorsement or become a state religion.

The secularist principle of our free, pluralistic society should also unbind the consciences of any individuals who, understanding Critical Social Justice as the system of faith that it is, have other conscience, morals, and mind, so that they might reject its imposition as inappropriate and unduly intrusive. Just as those who wish to hold to a faith of Critical Social Justice with its transcendent systems of power and its spiritualism of liberation from them are free to do so, the rest of us are free to say no and to believe otherwise. We should feel as confident in this as we would in rejecting the impositions of any other faith we don't believe in.

In closing, the question that needs answering is whether or not Critical Social Justice meets these criteria: "a comprehensive belief system that addresses the fundamental questions of human existence, such as the meaning of life and death, man's role in the universe, and the nature of good and evil, and that gives rise to duties of conscience." I contend that it very well may. If that is the case, it must not be given special status by our American government and must be stripped from public spaces, including our federal, state, and local governments and, especially, our public schools, in none of which it belongs. Wokeness is a matter of personal conscience, and it must be protected as such, just as we must be protected from state enforcement of it.

Edit. Artikkeli onkin siis kirjoitettu jo 9.9.2020.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.02.2021, 13:48:20
Yksi käytännön esimerkki wokeporukan toiminnasta. Disney potki Gina Caranon pihalle wokeistien cancelointikampanjan seurauksena.

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/people-are-trying-to-cancel-gina-carano-for-what-exactly/ (https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/people-are-trying-to-cancel-gina-carano-for-what-exactly/)

QuoteLucasfilm Folds To the Twitter Mob and Fires Gina Carano

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Before her acting career, Carano made a name for herself as an MMA fighter. You have to be a badass to be a successful female MMA fighter, so it makes sense that Carano plays a badass character in The Mandalorian. She began her acting career during her MMA career, but it didn't really kick off until her retirement. Although she has been in blockbuster films like Deadpool, she's most well known for her role as the mercenary Cara Dune on The Mandalorian.

The fan backlash against Carano began over the summer after she was silent about the Black Lives Matter movement. Fans began to pressure Carano into speaking up (and some were bullying her by calling her a racist for not being vocal).

She responded by writing, "In my experience, screaming at someone that they are a racist when they are indeed NOT a racist & any post and/or research you do will show you those exact facts, then I'm sorry, these people are not 'educators.' They are cowards and bullies."

She came under fire again in September for not putting her pronouns in her Twitter bio. She responded to the criticism by joking that her preferred pronouns were "boop/bop/beep."

(...)

The first calls for her firing started in mid-November, when Carano tweeted a meme questioning why Democratic politicians want their constituents to wear masks. This led fans to call for her firing from The Mandalorian on Twitter.

(...)

On Wednesday, #FireGinaCarano began trending again on Twitter after the actress shared a post stating the American political climate resembles Nazi Germany. Her post was deleted but screenshots circled on social media, along with renewed calls from the outraged Twitter mob that Disney and Lucasfilm fire her from The Mandalorian. 

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Ja kenkää siis tuli. Kuten alla olevan twiitin kuvasta selviää, mitään antisemitististä Carano ei postannut, vaan vertasi nykyisiä vihavasureita natseihin. Taisi osua arkaan paikkaan...

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Tästä olen Cernon kanssa samaa mieltä:

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Edit. Mandalorianin päätähdelle vastaavat heitot ei aiheuta mitään ongelmia.

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Poso viitannee tällaisiin juttuihin, vaikka ehkä tuosta "he/him" pätkästäkin voi jotain päätellä.

QuoteThe Mandalorian And Wonder Woman Actor Pedro Pascal Compares Donald Trump Voters To Nazis

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The meme reads "Losers in 1865" next to the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia.

It then reads, "Losers in 1945" next to the flag of Nazi Germany, officially called the flag of the German Reich.

Finally it reads, "Losers in 2020" next to a Make America Great Again hat.

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https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/11/07/the-mandalorian-and-wonder-woman-actor-pedro-pascal-compares-donald-trump-voters-to-nazis/ (https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/11/07/the-mandalorian-and-wonder-woman-actor-pedro-pascal-compares-donald-trump-voters-to-nazis/)

Babylon Beekin aktivoitui, tuollainenhan se Pedowoodin moraali / prioriteetit ovat. Kaikki menee, kunhan kannatat oikeita tahoja ja ideologioita.

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Quote"I'm not a Republican actress -- I'm actually a toxic, abusive, gaslighting director of many popular shows and films over the years," Carano said. (...)

Disney's response was immediate, as the company profusely apologized and hired her back.

"We are so sorry to Ms. Carano for firing her -- we did not realize she was actually a sexually abusive male director trapped in a woman's body," said a Disney spokesperson. (...)

https://babylonbee.com/news/gina-carano-rehired-by-disney-after-she-identifies-as-an-abusive-male-director (https://babylonbee.com/news/gina-carano-rehired-by-disney-after-she-identifies-as-an-abusive-male-director)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 11.02.2021, 16:50:42
Quote from: zupi on 11.02.2021, 13:48:20

Ja kenkää siis tuli. Kuten alla olevan twiitin kuvasta selviää, mitään antisemitististä Carano ei postannut, vaan vertasi nykyisiä vihavasureita natseihin. Taisi osua arkaan paikkaan...

Quote
On Wednesday, #FireGinaCarano began trending again on Twitter after the actress shared a post stating the American political climate resembles Nazi Germany. Her post was deleted but screenshots circled on social media, along with renewed calls from the outraged Twitter mob that Disney and Lucasfilm fire her from The Mandalorian. 

Aiemmista tapauksista ei kuitenkaan seurannut mitään, mutta nyt kyseessä oleva twiitti sisältää juutalaisten kohtelun vertaamista nykypäivän poliitiseen ilmapiiriin. Tämän seurauksena Gina Carano sai potkut.

Sama pätee myös liberaaleiksi itseään kutsuvia: The Guardianin toimittaja sai juuri potkut mainittuaan Israelin negatiivisessa valossa.
QuoteOne of the most serious threats to free speech is the silencing of criticism of the government of Israel.

I have now found this out the hard way, having just been fired as a Guardian columnist for sending a tweet about US military aid to Israel
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.02.2021, 23:15:29
Tällaista Philadelphiassa, oikein kunnon vihavasurimeininkiä. Muistakaa kuitenkin, että oikeasti siitä, mitä siellä koulussa todellisuudessa opetaan, ei saisi puhua mitään. Kysykää vaikka OAJ:ltä.

Mutta eiköhän tuolla(kin) kaikki äänet laskettu täysin oikein...

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Pistetään koko ketju lainauksina.

QuoteSCOOP: A Philadelphia elementary school forced fifth-grade students to celebrate "black communism" and simulate a Black Power rally to "free Angela Davis" from prison.

I've obtained exclusive whistleblower documents and photographs from the school. Here's the story.
QuoteLast year, a fifth-grade teacher at the William D. Kelley School designed a social-studies curriculum to celebrate the political radical Angela Davis, praising the "black communist" for her fight against "inequality" and telling students to "define communist" in favorable terms.
QuoteAt the end of the unit, the teacher led the ten- and eleven-year-olds into the school auditorium to "simulate" a Black Power rally to "free Angela Davis" from prison, where she had once been held on charges of murder. The students chanted "Black Power!" and "Free Angela!"
QuoteThe William D. Kelley School's student population is 94 percent black and 100 percent "economically disadvantaged." Academically, it is one of the worst-performing schools in the state: by graduation, only 13 percent of Kelley students will have achieved basic literacy.
QuoteDespite this abysmal academic performance, administrators have gradually abandoned traditional pedagogy in favor of political radicalism. They recently commissioned murals of Angela Davis and Huey P. Newton, who represent the Communist and Black Panther revolutionary movements.
QuoteIn recent years, the entire Philadelphia public school system has embraced the philosophy of "antiracism." Last summer, the superintendent released an Antiracism Declaration promising to "[dismantle] systems of racial inequity" and implemented racially-segregated programs.
QuoteThe local teachers' union produced a video denouncing the United States as a "settler colony built on white supremacy and capitalism," which has created a "system that lifts up white people over everyone else."
QuoteThe teachers' union openly demands that the United States overthrow the "racist structure of capitalism," provide "reparations for Black and Indigenous people," and "uproot white supremacy and plant the seeds for a new world."
QuoteThe gap between rhetoric and reality is almost beyond comprehension: the ten-year-olds marching for "black communism" can barely read and write. Rather than come to terms with this failure, educators have shifted the blame to "systemic racism" and promises of "revolution."
QuoteThis should be a crime. The School District of Philadelphia has 18,000 employees and a $3.4 billion annual budget—and fails, year after year, to teach basic literacy. Educators promise to "plant the seeds for a new world," but condemn their students to illiteracy and failure.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 12.02.2021, 12:57:52
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Piti oikein useampi varmistus hakea, että tuo on tosiaan totta, mutta kyllä tuon sekopään ajatuksista voi todellakin tuollaisen johtopäätöksen vetää.

https://newspunch.com/being-kind-to-dogs-is-racist-university-professor-says/ (https://newspunch.com/being-kind-to-dogs-is-racist-university-professor-says/)
https://areomagazine.com/2021/02/01/critical-race-theory-is-coming-for-the-dogs-katja-guenthers-the-lives-and-deaths-of-shelter-animals/ (https://areomagazine.com/2021/02/01/critical-race-theory-is-coming-for-the-dogs-katja-guenthers-the-lives-and-deaths-of-shelter-animals/)
https://www.amazon.com/Lives-Deaths-Shelter-Animals/dp/1503612856 (https://www.amazon.com/Lives-Deaths-Shelter-Animals/dp/1503612856)
https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=32332 (https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=32332)

QuoteIn her recent book The Lives and Deaths of Shelter Animals, Katja Guenther claims that dogs are being killed because of "capitalism, anthroparchy, white supremacy and patriarchy." She argues that allowing dogs to sleep inside is a privilege reserved for the white and wealthy and that policies against keeping dogs chained up in backyards are intended to oppress people of color by imposing "middle-class norms of animal keeping in which companion animals are considered family and treated accordingly," which ignore the fact that people of color "are themselves trapped in poverty, may have few options for legitimate income generation and possibly rely on their dogs for ... status."

Unfortunately Guenther's misguided book is gaining traction. Shelter director Kristen Hassen opines that Guenther "gets it right" in concluding that "racism, classism and the caste system are at the heart of the broken animal sheltering institution." Arguing that laws to prevent mistreatment of dogs discriminate against "anyone in the US other than white, middle class and upper-class individuals," Sloane Hawes, Tess Hupe and Kevin Morris of the University of Denver Institute for Human-Animal Connection cite the book in their proposal to relax enforcement of animal protection laws—a proposal that threatens to reverse decades of hard-won progress.

QuoteIn Guenther's book, moreover, white people do things; people of color have things done to them. For example, people of color who abandon their dogs in empty apartments are victims "ensnared in the legal system," forced to leave their animals behind "under the duress of sudden eviction or deportation or arrest." Guenther even claims that such people actually believe that what they are doing is for the best, because of "the constraints of their knowledge and resources, both of which are limited by the nexus of their class, status as immigrants, and ethnicity."

When a Latino man on a bicycle drops a dog "while escaping from mall security officers ... after stealing a pair of Wrangler jeans," she explains this away as the result of his "status as marginalized." When a woman leaves her dog to die at the pound after she has finished breeding her and selling her puppies to buy drugs, it is the fault of her "status as a poorly educated queer woman of color." Guenther laments that "rescuers ... critique urban Black and Latinx communities for not seeing companion animals as sufficiently part of the family and instead seeing them as resources, whether protective (as in guarding) or financial (as in breeding or possibly fighting)."

She appears to be arguing that if a person of color can turn a profit or build a reputation through animal exploitation that excuses animal suffering—even in the case of sadistic animal abuse: "From a class perspective, wealthy people are believed to be too 'civilized' to engage in barbaric activities like dogfighting, and it's no coincidence that the only affluent person who has been publicly shamed for dogfighting in the U.S., Michael Vick, is Black, newly wealthy after growing up in poverty."

Dogfighting, however, is not considered barbaric because it violates the norms of wealthy people—who, after all, have historically had their own versions of animal cruelty masquerading as entertainment, such as fox hunting and pigeon shooting. Nor is dogfighting considered uncivilized because of the skin color of the organizers—many of whom are white—but because of what it does to dogs.

QuoteWhile Guenther explains away mistreatment if the perpetrator happens to be a person of color, she has plenty of harsh words for those trying to save animals. Day in and day out, rescuers and volunteers show tremendous courage and compassion when they visit their local pounds. At many high kill shelters, they face hostile treatment from staff and endure heartbreak at seeing animals destined for lethal injection or gas chambers. And yet they go back, again and again.

Despite acknowledging these traumas, because most of the volunteers Guenther encountered were white, she accuses them of working to "reinscribe hierarchies of power and status within the shelter" against the non-white workers and thus "maintain existing social inequalities between humans even as they seek to help animals." When a rescuer laments the condition of a dog "with sagging belly skin, elongated nipples, and enlarged genitalia" and expresses dismay that the former owners "confined their dog outdoors" and "used the pit bull primarily for income generation through breeding," Guenther dismisses the criticism as "the animal practices of white rescuers."

QuoteThe most dangerous thing about Guenther's book, however, is her view that human-animal relations are "a zero-sum political struggle involving identity markers like race." In the early nineteenth century, cruelty to dogs was not recognized in law because they were considered property. Likewise, harming a homeless dog was not illegal because there was no property interest at stake. The animal did not matter. Guenther is once again suggesting a standard that excuses harm based on the interests of those causing it.

QuoteKatja M. Guenther is Associate Professor of Gender and Sexuality Studies at the University of California, Riverside, and author of Making Their Place (Stanford, 2010).
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.02.2021, 22:32:33
Quote from: zupi on 12.02.2021, 12:57:52
https://newspunch.com/being-kind-to-dogs-is-racist-university-professor-says/ (https://newspunch.com/being-kind-to-dogs-is-racist-university-professor-says/)

Everything Is Racism Except Critical Social Justice.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 12.02.2021, 23:04:50
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.02.2021, 22:32:33
Quote from: zupi on 12.02.2021, 12:57:52
https://newspunch.com/being-kind-to-dogs-is-racist-university-professor-says/ (https://newspunch.com/being-kind-to-dogs-is-racist-university-professor-says/)

Everything Is Racism Except Critical Social Justice.

Sekä tietenkin Joe "the blackest of lesbians" Biden, monikansalliset jättifirmat ja multimiljardöörit.

Pistetään tämä mukaan niin ei tule yksrivinen...

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Tämäkin ihan hyvä ketju.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.02.2021, 01:03:44
Tämä sinänsä ihan mielenkiintoinen kirjoitus sopinee tähän ketjuun.

https://quillette.com/2021/01/03/return-of-the-strong-gods-understanding-the-new-right/ (https://quillette.com/2021/01/03/return-of-the-strong-gods-understanding-the-new-right/)

QuoteReturn of the Strong Gods: Understanding the New Right

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What is most striking about Atkins's comments is not his evident belief that 75 million Americans are conspiracy theorists, nor his suggestion that we re-educate citizens for wrongthink—in the world of Left-Twitter, this is comparatively mild fare—but rather his insistence that the Democratic party is a uniquely heterodox space, a forum for robust policy debates, while the GOP is some kind of monolith. A "cult," as he called it. And yet, the Republican Party possesses more viewpoint diversity and is more internally factional than its competitor by a wide margin. Of all the exhausted canards one hears from liberals and never-Trumpers alike, the one that most needs retirement is the notion that Trump bent conservatism to his will, or, as Tim Alberta put it in 2017, "The conservative movement is Donald Trump."

Trump's election in 2016 was not the reflection of a unified coalition, but a deeply divided one. A great many Americans held their noses to vote for Trump, whom they saw as the lesser evil. Atkins's caricature of half the country is the sort of monocausal explanation that declines to take seriously the real forces that led to Trump's rise: the economic dislocation brought about by automation and globalization; the collapse of the manufacturing sector; dueling opioid and suicide epidemics; a three-year consecutive decline in the life-expectancy rate; a crisis of loneliness and despair brought about by family collapse, institutional decay, and declining social capital; a student-debt crisis that has crippled young people's futures; the corruption of our media and sense-making institutions; and a growing disconnect between our politically correct, chthonic governing elites and the concerns of ordinary Americans, which include such untouchable issues as immigration, the warfare state, and corporate bailouts. As Tucker Carlson puts it in his book Ship of Fools: "Happy countries don't elect Donald Trump... desperate ones do."

There is a growing intellectual movement on the Right (I call them the "New Right," though they have also been called the "illiberal Right" and even "America's Orbánists") that understands this, even while acknowledging Trump's many flaws. For some in this cadre, Trump is not unlike Hegel's "world historical figure," a leader who embodies the zeitgeist, if only for a moment, and carries forward the ruthless march of Kant's "World Spirit," discarding stale orthodoxies and outdated structures along the way. For others, Trump was merely a bull in a china shop who shattered the postwar consensus, brittle as it was, and summoned in its place a return of the "strong gods" (to borrow Rusty Reno's phrase) of loyalty, solidarity, and home. The oracles of these strong gods are an impressively credentialed cast of scholars and writers; they include Notre Dame professor Patrick Deneen, former Trump advisor Michael Anton, New York Post opinion editor Sohrab Ahmari, Israeli political scientist Yoram Hazony, and Harvard Law professor Adrian Vermeule.

The New Right is not a monolithic entity, nor does it follow a set of prescribed tenets. It is, what George F. Will (of all people) might call, a "sensibility." Certainly, there are uniting threads of nationalism, populism, protectionism, and traditionalism at play; yet what distinguishes the New Right more than anything is its counter-revolutionary spirit, its politics of opposition. "In this progressive theocracy in which all must worship at the altar of Wokeness," writes Hillsdale professor David Azerrad, "conservatism, if one can still even call it that, is more about overthrowing than conserving." If Atkins is right about anything, it is this: With Trump at the helm, conservatism has become less an ideology than a battle cry. Where the old guard stood athwart history yelling "Stop!" the new guard screams, in a pitch closer to that of Rousseau than Burke, "Tear it all down!" "This new Right," says Azerrad, "has a decidedly unconservative temperament."

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Deneen spoke passionately of the need for a strong middle class and of the various civic and national security reasons for retaining a robust manufacturing sector, citing the pandemic and our inability to produce the necessary personal protective equipment. For Hillsdale College professor David Azerrad, the question of economy also comes with significant cultural ramifications. "The issue is," said Azerrad when we spoke, "do we have an economy that is producing well-paying jobs that allow men without degrees to find dignified employment so they can get married and raise a family? The issue is less location than the bifurcation of the economy into menial service jobs and abstract thinking jobs. That's the issue," he told me: "the fact that manly men are viewed as a problem and made to feel less and less at home in the American economy and society." When I brought up Kevin Williamson's point, Azerrad responded, "There has to be a backbone of the country that will work with its hands. If it means moving a few towns, that's fine. But you can't move to Mexico."

Azerrad looked pained when I asked him to give his brand of conservatism a label. "I don't know that I'm comfortable—I mean, if I had to give myself a label, I would say I am part of the New Right that is dissatisfied with the platitudes of what Rusty Reno has called 'the rotting flesh of Reaganism.' I want a Right that is anchored in the realities of the 21st century, that understands its base, that is aggressively fighting the culture wars, that is not beholden to the neocons on foreign policy or to the libertarians on economic thinking." At one point in our conversation, he shared a line from one of his friends, whom he declined to name: "The Republicans should be the party of men who like being men, women who like being women, and Americans who like being Americans." He flashed a boyish grin.

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For all that, attacking the New Right through Orbán, while rhetorically effective, offers a distorting lens at best. My conversation with Deneen made it clear that for traditionalist conservatives the allure of Orbán's approach runs deeper than politics and boils down to the question of what the telos (purpose or function) of a society should be. "It's a concept of society," Deneen told me, "that is pre-liberal, that has at its basis the fundamental society, the family." Whereas liberalism sees the individual as the fundamental organizing unit of society, traditional conservatism begins with the family. The family, after all, shapes and gives rise to the individual. I cut in: "So instead of stripping society down to atomized individuals in a 'state of nature' and then building up Lockean rights," I asked Deneen clumsily, "you're starting with the family, and then society grows out of that?"

"That's exactly right," Deneen told me. "It's conceptually and anthropologically different from liberal assumptions. If you begin by building from that point and you think about the ways that those institutions are under threat from a variety of sources in modern society... to the extent that you can strengthen those institutions, you do the things that someone like David French wants, which is to track a lot of the attention away from the role of central government. One of the reasons liberalism has failed in the thing it claims to do—which is limiting central government—is precisely because it is so fundamentally individualistic that radically individuated selves end up needing and turning to central governments for support and assistance."

According to Deneen, liberal orders seek to liberate individuals from the "despotism" of custom, place, and tradition, reducing culture to a sterile consumerism, allowing us to "sample from other cultures but not be of a culture." This "anti-culture," as he calls it, is at the heart of the liberal project, whose aim is to "free us" from the traditional associations and commitments that would bind us, limit us, and define us. Liberalism, then, is a fundamentally homogenizing force. By compelling us to affirm all cultures, it deprives us of our culture. By taking us everywhere, it leaves us nowhere. By urging us not to conform, it renders us formless. This formlessness is a hallmark of the liberal anti-culture. "In the same way that we have bankrupted the next generation by leaving them negative balances in their bank accounts, we've given them negative balances in their cultural coffers," Deneen said.

In his recent book Return of the Strong Gods: Nationalism, Populism, and the Future of the West, Rusty Reno expands on this critique. His central thesis is that, since 1945, Western culture has been one of "anti-imperatives"—anti-fascism, anti-totalitarian, anti-imperialism, anti-colonialism, and anti-racism. These are what the author calls "weak gods." (...)

But citizens, Reno argues, will not tolerate a society of "pure negation" for long. The strong gods always return. Public life requires a shared mythos and a higher vision of the common good—what Richard Weaver called a "metaphysical dream." Human beings long to coalesce around shared loves and loyalties. We unite in solidarity to elevate the sacred. "Our social consensus," Reno writes, "always reaches for transcendent legitimacy." There must be a center of things. Without that integrating ideal, without that centripetal force, societies begin to disperse, spiraling ever outward in a "widening gyre" until the culture lies in fragments. "There can be no society," wrote the French sociologist Émile Durkheim, "which does not feel the need of upholding and reaffirming at regular intervals the collective sentiments and ideas which make its unity and personality."

The strong gods, in other words, will always be with us. The only question is, what form will we allow them to take? And how will we prevent them from overpowering us once we summon them?

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 14.02.2021, 21:28:05
Aasialaisiin kohdistunut väkivalta on USAssa kovassa kasvussa, tekijät kaikki tietää. Sinänsä tuo kasvu on aika kova suoritus, kun mustat kohdistivat aasialaisiin väkivaltaa jo 2018 noin satakertaisesti verrattuna tilanteeseen toisinpäin. James Lindsay avaa tässä lainauksina esitetyssä twiittiketjussa asian syitä. Eli woketus tulee väistämättä johtamaan siihen, että ne vähemmistöt, jotka eivät alistu mielipuolisille CSJ-teorioille ja menestyksellään todistavat teorioiden ääliömäisyyden, joutuvat vihan ja väkivallan kohteeksi. Tosin wokeväki on sitä mieltä, että tämäkin väkivalta on pohjimmiltaan valkoisen ylivallan aiheuttamaa...  :facepalm: No, voihan tekijöissä hyvinkin olla myös valkoisia wokenatseja.

QuoteI've said it before, and I'll say it again, intersectionality was a tool to get as many people as possible to think of themselves as victims so they'd carry water for the ideology at the heart of Wokeness: queer black feminism, which derives from Critical Theory and adopted PoMo.

QuoteQueer black feminism is unapologetically invested in "identity politics" in the 1977 Combahee River Collective (not Civil Rights Movement) sense, which disfavors universal humanity and places divisive rhetoric and identity (and victimhood in that identity) first. Bad ideas.

QuoteThe rise in anti-Asian discrimination and violence and some Anti-Semitism we see right now is a direct result of the intersectionality con game. "Minoritized groups" that don't do the radical politics to demand get called "anti-Black" and targeted. Racism and division rise.

QuoteWokeness is about leveraging identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, etc., to force "minoritized groups" to take up the narrow, divisive, regressive, damaging identity politics of radical queer black feminists in the late "liberation" school vein (Critical Theory). Or else.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1360968282241654785 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1360968282241654785)

Niin kuin Lindsay tuossa vähän tuo esiin, niin asiaan liittyy myös aasialaisten suora syrjintä esim opiskelupaikkojen suhteen.

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Tämä on vähän OT, mutta kuitenkin osittain asiaan liittyvä twiitti, aika hauska vaan tuo oikeanpuoleinen kuva.

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Edit. Tämä vielä mukaan, kun antifan tilalle voi huoletta heittää myös anti-rasismin.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.02.2021, 00:16:04
Bidenin otettua ohjat näitä putkahtelee kuin sieniä sateella. Tuo oikeanpuoleinen kuva on vaan sinänsä aika paljastava. Eli käytännössä kaikki suomalaiset(kin), jotka pitävät ja arvostavat länsimaista / omaa suomalaista kulttuuria, ovat "white supremacist"eja. Tämän tapaiset kielipelithän ovat woke-psykopaattien toimintatapojen ytimessä.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.02.2021, 15:00:23
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QuoteIt's like a tower of useful idiots.

    Very Smart People and Wokish sympathizers are useful idiots for the Woke.

    The Woke are useful idiots and vanguards for the "stakeholder capitalism" supranational fascists.

    Those tools are useful idiots for the CCP.
    — James Lindsay, increasingly relevant (@ConceptualJames) February 16, 2021
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 19.02.2021, 23:17:53
Tästä oli jo aiemmin ketjussa jonkin verran keskustelua, mutta alla Lindsayn artikkeli viime vuoden heinäkuulta marxismin, postmodernismin ja nykyisen woke-hulluuden (CSJ) yhteydestä.

QuoteThe Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness

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People who observe that Marxism is somehow tied into all of this Woke stuff, then, are certainly not wrong, but it just as certainly isn't Marxism. Marxists, like the real thing, might be behind this whole "Social Justice" phenomenon, or ready to come in after it tears society apart, as it does, but the Woke themselves are not Marxists, proper, and neither are the Marxists Woke. The simplest way to put this would be the following:

Critical Theory is "neo-Marxism," or, as it's sometimes phrased, "Cultural Marxism," which plainly derives from Marxism and retained much of what was core to its thought while completely modifying other aspects of it in the hopes of achieving communism.

Postmodernism is a particular form of "post-Marxism," which had given up more or less entirely on Marxism and thus everything else, though it was still a fairly significant fan of communist efforts as they played out in the 1950s and 1960s, and it was no friend to liberalism.

Critical Social Justice is the intentional fusion of these two schools of thought with the goal of achieving its ideas about "Social Justice" through radical identity politics.


None of this is simple, though, unfortunately, and so it all requires more elaboration. A quick history might therefore be in order. The relevant object to understand, though we don't develop this specifically in Cynical Theories, is Marx's "conflict theory," which he derived from Hegel's master/slave dialectic.

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As for the neo-Marxists, they understood that Marx was wrong to say that economics were the relevant object upstream of politics. They realized it is culture and thus the impacts culture has on individual psychologies that is upstream of politics. (Andrew Breitbart didn't come up with this idea; he read it from the Critical Theorists before deciding that they were right and putting it into his own applications!) Critical Theory, then, arose as an application of conflict theory to ideology and culture, as analyzed partly through (psychoanalytic) psychology and the emerging field of sociology. They blamed Marxism for failing to understand people and society just as much as they blamed liberalism for producing a means by which people could see society as essentially fair and success as essentially the result of talent and effort.

So, neo-Marxism is Marxian but not Marxist, in that it continues the conflict theory-style analysis of Marx into a different realm and does so toward essentially Marxist ends. One could say this is a distinction without a difference, but that is incorrect. The consequence of this shift is profound. It means that rather than attempting to unite workers and seize the means of economic production, as the Marxists had envisioned, the neo-Marxists wanted to change culture itself. This led them to find multiple sites of the oppressor/oppressed dynamic in society and get inside peoples heads with it, which they derived from the intentional forced marriage of Freudian psychoanalysis into Marxian social theory. They led them to understood the importance of seizing the means of cultural production—education, media, arts, journalism, faith, and entertainment—though, in many respects, they weren't particularly good at it. For that, they would need the postmodernists and the critical pedagogists, as we shall see.

Of course, this is an oversimplification rather in the extreme. (...)

(...) This postmodern pessimism was more or less universal, though, and extended to Marxism as well as to capitalism, liberalism, and everything else, all of which Jean-François Lyotard named as "metanarratives" to be radically skeptical of. It is in this sense that postmodernism is actually more post-Marxist than it is anything else.

So, that sets the history of both the neo-Marxist and postmodernist (post-Marxist) schools of thought and explains their connection to Marxism, including what they kept from Marx and what they rejected. The Marxian roots are obvious, and yet it isn't Marxism, and this antagonistic relationship between the theoretical approaches goes in both directions.

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Nevertheless, both of these traditions had major problems, as one would expect from even hearing a superficial description of their ideas, and both of them more or less burned themselves out in public popularity pretty quickly. The French postmodern Theory was rejected completely in France and more or less ignored everywhere else (...)  and was wrongly declared dead by the academy as a serious intellectual pursuit by sometime in the 1990s.

Neo-Marxism, on the other hand, turned radical and violent under Herbert Marcuse, who even claimed himself that it had gone beyond his vision, and it burned itself out in terms of public support. (His influence, combined with that of the French postcolonialist  and psychoanalyst Frantz Fanon,  is, to decent approximation on its own the origin story of the radical anarchist project called Antifa.) Critical Theory then went underground into the universities, in that whole long march through the institutions project, starting in the early 1970s, working its way first into feminist and then other forms of critique, mostly in English departments, under headings like women's studies, gender studies, African American studies, and ethnic studies.

Thus, again, it's our avant-garde humanities scholars who remained interested in this at the time, mostly feminists (...) More or less everyone else ignored it even as they believed themselves more and more crucially relevant within the academy, with one horrible exception, to our peril, until quite recently.

The one notable exception is the schools of education, particularly following the "critical turn in education,"  which sought to make education about "consciousness raising" and instilling a "critical consciousness" into children as an educational priority. Some of this was explicitly anti-capitalist, and thus Marxist in origin, but it was mostly much more subtle. Critical pedagogy, as the result came to be called, was much more interested in undermining the national metanarratives, if you will, and getting students to be "educated" in a way that would lead them to be critical of their own national histories,  culture, and civics—or, more explicitly, to get them to learn to see their home nations as oppressive bad actors rather than as imperfect leaders of spreading a liberal order throughout the world and thus come to doubt or even hate them.

(...)

Freire, I'm told, ruined Brazilian education more or less singlehandedly, and it was his approach that Henry Giroux found so inspiring that he dragged it and its influence into North America. Giroux then incorporated first neo-Marxist and then postmodernist ideas ("the European theorists") into education and educational theory, though the latter of those projects happened much more extensively later under the hand of another critical pedagogist named Joe Kincheloe. Thus, our schools of education turned heavily in the "critical" direction (meaning a blurry mix of Marxism, neo-Marxism, and postmodern post-Marxism, plus Freire's own slightly tangential post-Marxist ideas) by the early 1980s, when Giroux became massively influential after publishing his first book, Ideology, Culture, and the Process of Schooling,  which was first published in North America in 1981.

Tähän väliin on pakko heittää pätkä Reaganin jäähyväispuheesta, äijä näki mitä oli tapahtumassa, vaikkei osannutkaan sitä silloin Lindsayn tavoin selittää.

Quote"An informed patriotism is what we want. And are we doing a good enough job teaching our children what America is and what she represents in the long history of the world? Those of us who are over 35 or so years of age grew up in a different America. We were taught, very directly, what it means to be an American. And we absorbed, almost in the air, a love of country and an appreciation of its institutions.

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"But now, we're about to enter the '90s, and some things have changed. Younger parents aren't sure that an unambivalent appreciation of America is the right thing to teach modern children. And as for those who create the popular culture, well-grounded patriotism is no longer the style. Our spirit is back, but we haven't reinstitutionalized it. We've got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom – freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise. And freedom is special and rare. It's fragile; it needs [protection].

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3194547.html#msg3194547 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3194547.html#msg3194547)

Ei se Reagan tainnut ihan niin tyhmä olla, mitä 80-luvun piirretyt antoivat ymmärtää... No, takaisin asiaan.

QuoteA lot was going on in the 1980s and into the 1990s in this regard. By then, the (liberationlist, i.e., neo-Marxist) black feminists (this is a school of thought, not black people who happen to be feminists) had taken up quite a bit of interest in postmodern Theory, as had some other fairly radical feminists, especially those like Gayle Rubin, Judith Butler, and Eve Sedgwick, who would go on to lay the foundations of queer Theory. (...)

This generation of activists saw postmodern Theory as somewhat incorrect but intrinsically useful for deconstructing the power dynamics their underlying neo-Marxist and radical feminist worldviews believed dominated society. (...)

The big idea these particular Theorists had was to limit the deconstructive potential of postmodern Theory so that it couldn't be applied to any identity factor that's on the "oppressed" end of the neo-Marxist liberationist view. They outlined the idea that to deconstruct a site of oppression, as it is understood through lived experience, is itself a luxury, thus application, of oppressive privilege. That removed systemic oppression, as the liberationists (neo-Marxists) defined it, from the acid bath of postmodernist deconstruction.

That is, a moral rock—the imperative to liberate from oppression—was inserted into the philosophical universe touched upon by these varied Marxian lines of scholarship, thought, and activism. That reification of systemic oppression, as understood through its lived experience (the one thing the deconstructionists said would be left when everything else is deconstructed), created a neat package by which postmodern Theory could be simplified and packaged up for activists.

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Thus, "liberationist" politics were even by then, and much more by the time in 1989–1991 when postmodernism was fully and formally incorporated into them, unapologetically centered upon a narrowly particular and aggressive approach to identity politics that sought to forward social responsibility at the level of identity groups as the answer to the question of systemic oppression. The postmodern view that knowledge is just another application of unjustly empowered politics effectively liberated neo-Marxism from any obligation to making true statements about the world in service of its liberationist agenda. Instead, it elevated for these rather cutthroat activists the power of both unfalsifiable claims to lived experience (of systemic oppression) and the problematizing (i.e., offense-taking) that the Critical Theorists had forwarded as a means beyond defeasibility and falsification for invalidating undesirable (note: not "incorrect") statements about the world and social reality within it (these, of course, would be those that are "not liberationist," in the sense of producing a communist, or ethno-communist, revolution).

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This very radical approach as it appeared in the 1990s makes the Black Power movement from the 1960s and 1970s look quaint by comparison. It ultimately carried the goal of earning liberation for those who endure systemic oppression, not just from their oppressors but from oppression itself by seeking a complete overthrow of the existing system, in part through a complete deconstruction of anything that confers, produces, legitimizes, or upholds systemic power in any regard whatsoever. Whiteness itself, in all of its various manifestations, for example, must be unmade to end systemic racism, it contends. Here, then, is where postmodernism (post-Marxism) and neo-Marxism fused into "Critical Social Justice," and this fusion can be read quite explicitly in Kimberlé Crenshaw's landmark 1991 paper, "Mapping the Margins".

That was the official birth of the Critical Social Justice school of thought (...)

So, in that sense, the Critical Social Justice that we describe in Cynical Theories (under the moniker "Social Justice scholarship and activism") is profoundly Marxian in more than one way at once but is very expressly not Marxist. In particular, Marxism is an economics-based social theory, and Critical Social Justice actually usurps economic analysis and obscures it to use it as a proxy for its peculiar approach to identity politics. To be more specific on that, for example, it's overwhelmingly obvious that economic causes are the sources of many of the phenomena Critical Race Theorists name as "systemic racism," but they use the fact that there are statistical economic differences by race to claim that racism (not capitalistic exploitation) are the ultimate causes of those differences. Thus, they make class a proxy for the site of oppression that they're actually obsessively focused upon, race, and thereby obliterate any possibility for liberal, rational, or even materialist or Marxist analysis of the underlying issues.

There's something of an exception to that point, however, as though this isn't already complicated enough. As Critical Social Justice not particularly suited to do much of anything except tear things apart and seems positively disinterested in building anything at all, the truly Marxist underpinnings of the movement do tend to show through a bit when its activists try to do anything practical in the sense of building something. We see this, for example, in demands for equitable and diverse hiring, as those ideas are quite obviously related to Marxism but only as filtered through identity-based lenses, which Marxism would reject on principle (not for bad reasons). In this way, it's probably more accurate to describe the efforts of Critical Social Justice not as Marxist but as ethno-communist, where "ethnicity" here applies to the "culture" of any particular "systemically oppressed" identity group.

I know it's confusing, but hopefully this helps clarify the complicated relationship between Marxism, neo-Marxism, postmodernism, and their kind of mutant-hybrid descendant, Critical Social Justice scholarship and activism. So it goes when radical Marxian-Utopian activism evolves against both reality and the solid liberal societies that successfully push back at all of its many endless attempts to undermine society from within.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/complex-relationship-between-marxism-wokeness/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/complex-relationship-between-marxism-wokeness/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.02.2021, 23:45:28
QuoteWhistleblower at Smith College Resigns Over Racism

Jodi Shaw made less in a year than the cost of tuition. She was offered a settlement, but turned it down. Here's why.

We all know that something morally grotesque is swallowing liberal America. Almost no one wants to risk talking about it out loud.

Every day I get phone calls from anxious Americans complaining about an ideology that wants to pull all of us into the past.

I get calls from parents telling me about the damaging things being taught in schools: so-called antiracist programs that urge children to obsess on the color of their skin.


I get calls from people working in corporate America forced to go to trainings in which they learn that they carry collective, race-based guilt — or benefit from collective, race-based virtue.

I get calls from young people just launching their careers telling me that they feel they have no choice but to profess fealty to this ideology in order to keep their jobs.

Almost no one who calls me is willing to go public
. And I understand why. To go public with what's happening is to risk their jobs and their reputations.

But the hour is very late. It calls for courage. And courage has come in the form of a woman named Jodi Shaw.

Jodi Shaw was, until this afternoon, a staffer at Smith College in Northampton, Massachusetts. She made $45,000 a year — less than the yearly tuition at the school.

She is a divorced mother of two children. She is a lifelong liberal and an alumna of the college. And she has had a front-row seat to the illiberal, neo-racist ideology masquerading as progress.


In October 2020, after Shaw felt that she had exhausted all her internal options, she posted a video on YouTube, blowing the whistle on, what she says, is an atmosphere of racial discrimination at the school.

"I ask that Smith College stop reducing my personhood to a racial category. Stop telling me what I must think and feel about myself," she said. "Stop presuming to know who I am or what my culture is based upon my skin color. Stop asking me to project stereotypes and assumptions onto others based on their skin color."

Watch the whole thing here:

https://youtu.be/blqpCMChBpI (https://youtu.be/blqpCMChBpI)

QuoteNow today, she is resigning from the college.

In doing that — and in speaking out — she is turning down a settlement that would have given her a much easier way out. We need more people like her.

Here's how Shaw put it in her resignation letter to Smith College President Kathleen McCartney, which she sent to me to publish in full:

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I graduated from Smith College in 1993. Those four years were among the best in my life. Naturally, I was over the moon when, years later, I had the opportunity to join Smith as a staff member. I loved my job and I loved being back at Smith.

But the climate — and my place at the college — changed dramatically when, in July 2018, the culture war arrived at our campus when a student accused a white staff member of calling campus security on her because of racial bias. The student, who is black, shared her account of this incident widely on social media, drawing a lot of attention to the college.

Before even investigating the facts of the incident, the college immediately issued a public apology to the student, placed the employee on leave, and announced its intention to create new initiatives, committees, workshops, trainings, and policies aimed at combating "systemic racism" on campus.

In spite of an independent investigation into the incident that found no evidence of racial bias, the college ramped up its initiatives aimed at dismantling the supposed racism that pervades the campus. This only served to support the now prevailing narrative that the incident had been racially motivated and that Smith staff are racist.

Allowing this narrative to dominate has had a profound impact on the Smith community and on me personally. For example, in August 2018, just days before I was to present a library orientation program into which I had poured a tremendous amount of time and effort, and which had previously been approved by my supervisors, I was told that I could not proceed with the planned program. Because it was going to be done in rap form and "because you are white," as my supervisor told me, that could be viewed as "cultural appropriation." My supervisor made clear he did not object to a rap in general, nor to the idea of using music to convey orientation information to students. The problem was my skin color.

I was up for a full-time position in the library at that time, and I was essentially informed that my candidacy for that position was dependent upon my ability, in a matter of days, to reinvent a program to which I had devoted months of time.

Humiliated, and knowing my candidacy for the full-time position was now dead in the water, I moved into my current, lower-paying position as Student Support Coordinator in the Department of Residence Life.

As it turned out, my experience in the library was just the beginning. (...)

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https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/whistleblower-at-smith-college-resigns (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/whistleblower-at-smith-college-resigns)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 23.02.2021, 00:14:30
Tuo on juuri se mitä Suomeenkin nyt tarvittaisiin, "afrikkalaista rentoutta"... Täsmällisyys, tavoitteellisuus, jne. kun ovat valkoisen ylivallan tuotoksia.  :silakka: Siis oikeasti, miten saatanan tyhmiä ihmiset voi olla?

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Alla olevassa tweetissä luultavasti monelle Hommalaiselle tuttu tilanne. Jos alat sanomaan mitään vastaan, niin olet rasistipaska ja antisemiitti. Tuossa siis Lindsay osallistuu New Hampshiren CRT-kieltoa koskevaan käsittelyyn, ja eikös siellä tietyn tyyppinen kongressi-edustaja käy kimppuun tietyn tyyppisillä argumenteilla. Noin 10:20-14:10 koko pätkä putkeen, noin 19:20-31:40 kommentoituna.

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Nämä vasurien paska-aatteet on kyllä todellisia kärpäspapereita kaikille psykopaateille ja sadisteille.

Ja Kokoomus ja Keskusta mahdollistaa joka päivä näiden levittämisen Suomeen, kiitokset heille siitä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 24.02.2021, 13:49:12
Quote from: zupi on 14.02.2021, 21:28:05
Aasialaisiin kohdistunut väkivalta on USAssa kovassa kasvussa, tekijät kaikki tietää. (...)

Tähän olisi kiva saada vaikka BLM-Jarin kommentit...

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QuoteCRT appears in our workplaces under the cover of implicit bias/sensitivity training . It infiltrates our schools pretending to be culturally/ethnically responsive pedagogy , with curricula such as the New York Times' 1619 Project and Seattle's ethnomathematics . Hate groups, with allies in politics, the press and education, pass CRT off as anti-racism and diversity, equity and inclusion , but CRT is exactly the opposite. From its very roots, CRT is racist, repressive, discriminatory, and divisive.

Quote(...) The kids were then told to check themselves off on a list of victimization categories -- race, gender, religion, family structure -- to find out which categories made them oppressors , and which made them oppressed . A Chinese parent found out about this and organized parents to stop it. It reminded them of Mao's bloody Cultural Revolution. (...)

QuoteChinese Americans are people of color and therefore start from the oppressed side of CRT's binary. But as we overcome discrimination and achieve upward mobility, we are now White by adjacency. In New York City, Black Lives Matter rioters with CRT signs assaulted our rally supporting merit-based education. We have come into CRT's crosshair.

Education is the main area where CRT attacked us. CRT, naturally, demands automatic preferences for Blacks in admissions to selective institutions and programs. That is unacceptable to us: such racial preferences come at the expense of our children, at the expense of academic standards, and at the expense of basic fairness.

For top colleges, CRT uses the ruse of multiple-criteria holistic admissions , which allows Harvard to reject Asians with better academic and extra-curricular credentials than those of admitted applicants. Despite never having met the applicants, Harvard admissions officers somehow conclude that Asian applicants lack integrity and courage -- directly contradicting evaluations from interviewers who met the applicants, and from teachers who've known the applicants for months if not years. If smearing Asians this way isn't hate speech , then what is? Call it diversity, equity and inclusion .

QuoteOne way or another, CRT wants to get rid of too many Asians in good schools. Asians are over-represented . CRT is today's Chinese Exclusion Act. CRT is the real hate crime against Asians.

Some of CRT's hate speeches against Asians are obvious: too many Asians and Stuyvesant doesn't look like the City need no explanation. They can also be subtle. For example: Stuyvesant is not diverse . Since when is it not diverse for a school to have dozens of languages spoken at home, all major world faiths practiced, most cultural experiences inherited, from ancient civilization-building to rise and fall of empires, to slavery, colonization, revolution, and diaspora? Even if CRT dismisses all this and reduces everything to just looks -- do all Asians look alike to them?

http://nebula.wsimg.com/9499c73d959b9f49be9689476a990776?AccessKeyId=45A6F09DA41DB93D9538&disposition=0&alloworigin=1 (http://nebula.wsimg.com/9499c73d959b9f49be9689476a990776?AccessKeyId=45A6F09DA41DB93D9538&disposition=0&alloworigin=1)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 24.02.2021, 14:07:45
Rufon uusin löydös.

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Loppu twiittiketjusta lainauksina:

QuoteThe story begins with the district's diversity czar, Fatima Morell, who developed a new antiracism curriculum and told teachers they must become "woke" and achieve "critical consciousness," a Marxist pedagogical concept training students to identify and subvert their oppressors.

QuoteIn a presentation to teachers, Morell claimed that America "is built on racism" and that "America's sickness" leads some whites to believe that black people are "not human," which makes it "easier to shoot [them] in the back seven times if you feel like it."

QuoteLast year, Fox News reported on the district's mandatory Black Lives Matter curriculum, which required schools to commit to "dismantling cisgender privilege," creating "queer-affirming network(s)," and accelerating "the disruption of Western nuclear family dynamics."

QuoteThe individual lessons, which I have obtained, are even more divisive. In kindergarten, teachers require students to watch a video that dramatizes dead black children warning them about the dangers of being killed by "racist police and state-sanctioned violence."

QuoteIn middle school, students are told that "all white people play a part in perpetuating systemic racism" and that "white elites work to perpetuate racism through politics, law, education, and the media." Whites derive their wealth from slavery and are "unfairly rich."

QuoteIn high school, students must begin "confronting whiteness in [their] classrooms," with teachers asking white students to atone for their "white privilege" and to "use their voices" for the cause of left-wing "antiracism." They must become activists.

QuoteTeachers within Buffalo Public Schools tell me the new antiracism program pushes "radical politics" into the classroom and has devolved into "scoldings, guilt-trips, and demands to demean oneself simply to make another feel 'empowered.'" Teachers are afraid to speak out.

QuoteBuffalo Public Schools are a disaster: by fifth grade, only 18 percent of students are proficient in math and 20 percent are proficient in English; one-third of all students fail to graduate from high school. The new "antiracism" program will do nothing to improve these outcomes.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 24.02.2021, 14:59:33
Quote from: zupi on 24.02.2021, 14:07:45

This survey from Skeptic Mag is fascinating. Huge numbers of liberals and moderates think that over 100 unarmed black men were killed by cops in 2019. Many think the number is over 1,000 or 10,000. Even conservatives think it's about 100. The actual number is 13. pic.twitter.com/fp2tkwzr4R
- Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog) February 23, 2021

Tällainen massiivinen tietämättömyys ei koske pelkästään poliisiampumisia vaan monia muitakin aiheita, joissa vasemmistoliberaalit ovat ihan yhtä pihalla. Hommassakin on näitä kaikesta kirkuvia liberaaleja, joiden tietolähteet ovat lähinnä Hesari ja CNN. Tietämys on silloin juuri sitä luokkaa, että "faktat" ovat pielessä kertoimella tuhat.

Vasemmistoliberaalit paasaavat kuitenkin siitä miten he uskovat faktoihin ja ovat älykköjä. Käytännössä he ovat kuitenkin ihmiskunnan ehdottomasti typerintä osaa, joka uskoo ihan kaiken potaskan mitä heille syötetään ja saarnaavat sen jälkeen muille "faktoillaan".

En ole vielä tavannut älykästä vasemmistolaista, harhaisia ja tietämättömiä riittää kuitenkin 13 tusinalle.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suuri johtaja on 24.02.2021, 18:25:41
Historia on täynnä tabuja, taikauskoa ja erikoisia käyttäytymissääntöjä. Kiinalainen pitää numeroa 4 epäonnekkaana ja japanin kielessä pitää osata monimutkaisia kohteliaisuusmuotoja riippuen omasta suhteestaan keskustelukumppaniin. Intialainen ei saa syödä naudanlihaa, muslimi sianlihaa eikä länsimaalainen hämähäkkejä. Munkki on pyhä, vaatekappale on pyhä tai oman esivanhemman kuva on pyhä.

Taidamme seurata uuden taikauskoisen käyttäytymissäännöstön syntyä reaaliajassa. Ihmisryhmien pyhyys riippuu heidän ominaisuuksiaan, eikä itseään korkeammassa asemassa olevalle ryhmälle ole soveliasta sanoa mitä tahansa. Väärä elekin voi olla uskomusjärjestelmän omaksuneille sosiaalinen itsemurha.

Toivotaan, että uskomusjärjestelmä kuolee pois ennen valtavirtaistumistaan ja muuttumistaan lakisääteiseksi kastijärjestelmäksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.02.2021, 02:29:23
Quote from: zupi on 21.01.2021, 23:51:04
Pistetään tähän linkki toiseen ketjuun / James Lindsayn kirjoitukseen siitä, miksi woke / CSJ-porukka ei suostu väittelyihin.

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131606.msg3267269.html#msg3267269 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131606.msg3267269.html#msg3267269)

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/)

On tuo woke-sakki säälittävää, nyt siellä oli yksi valehdellut NYT:ssä, että CRT:n vastustajat eivät halua väitellä asiasta...  :o No, Rufohan tarjoutui heti väittelemään, mutta kaikki tietää, että tuo väittely ei tule ikinä toteutumaan. Kunhan pääsi NYT taas vähän edistämään narratiivia idioottien keskuudessa.

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QuoteThe article in the Times stated, "But the right, for all its chest-beating about the value of entertaining dangerous notions, is rarely interested in debating the tenets of critical race theory. It wants to eradicate them from public institutions." The piece followed with a lengthy section about Rufo

https://www.dailywire.com/news/critical-race-theory-critic-throws-gauntlet-down-to-new-york-times (https://www.dailywire.com/news/critical-race-theory-critic-throws-gauntlet-down-to-new-york-times)
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/opinion/speech-racism-academia.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/opinion/speech-racism-academia.html)

Asiaan liittyen:

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Ja vielä pari muuta asiaan suoraan liittymätöntä:

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Alla muuten linkki yhteen Shantin kirjoitukseen. En nyt ala tuota lainailemaan, kun ei varsinaisesti suoraan liity ketjun aiheeseen, mutta osittain kuitenkin liittyy. Lähinnä siinä mielestäni tuodaan ilmi sitä, miten valtamätä on USAssa syleillyt näitä CSJ-aatteita sen vuoksi, että niiden avulla saatiin työnnettyä vasemmistopopulistit, jotka siis omien näkökantojensa pohjalta oikeasti pyrkivät parantamaan tavallisten ihmisten asemaa, maanrakoon.

Ja nythän on sitten menossa oikeistopopulistien väkivaltainen hiljentäminen. Tosin tätä ryhmää kutsutaan nykyisin rassisteiksi, natseiksi, valkoisen ylivallan edustajiksi (ihonväristä riippumatta), terroristeiksi, yms. yms., ja ryhmä kattaa kaikki ihmiset, jotka pyrkivät vastustamaan valtamätää.

https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/12/the-lefts-culture-war-rebranding/ (https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/12/the-lefts-culture-war-rebranding/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.02.2021, 03:06:51
Vähän edelliseen liittyen.

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Alla asiaa kirjasta, jonka Amazon poisti. Joku voisi kuvitella, että tuo olisi juuri sellaista "asiallista ja perusteltua kritiikkiä", mitä vasurit haluaa. Kun tuo joku siis on niin tyhmä, että kuvittelee vasurien haluavan sietävän minkäänlaista kritiikkiä / eriäviä mielipiteitä.

QuoteThe Book Amazon Does Not Want You to Read

You may have heard by now that Amazon has banned from all of their sales channels Ryan T. Anderson's excellent book, When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment (Encounter Books, 2018).

At First Things, Anderson writes about the controversy:

The people who did read the book discovered that it is an accurate and accessible presentation of the scientific, medical, philosophical, and legal debates surrounding the trans phenomenon. Yes, it advances an argument against transgender ideology from a viewpoint. But it doesn't get any facts wrong, and it doesn't engage in heated rhetoric.

Moreover, it was praised by experts: the former psychiatrist-in-chief at Johns Hopkins Hospital, a longtime psychology professor at NYU, a professor of medical ethics at Columbia Medical School, a professor of psychological and brain sciences at Boston University, a professor of neurobiology at the University of Utah, a distinguished professor at Harvard Law School, an eminent legal philosopher at Oxford, and a professor of jurisprudence at Princeton.

But for a heretic-hunting Left, none of that matters. It's not about how you say it, or how rigorously you argue it, or how charitably you present it. It's about whether you affirm or dissent from the new orthodoxy of gender ideology.

The editors at National Review call attention to Anderson's intellectual credentials but also his calm, clear, and compassionate disposition as an advocate for truth in the public square

QuoteThis book exposes the contrast between the media's sunny depiction of gender fluidity and the often sad reality of living with gender dysphoria. It gives a voice to people who tried to "transition" by changing their bodies, and found themselves no better off. Especially troubling are the stories told by adults who were encouraged to transition as children but later regretted subjecting themselves to those drastic procedures.

As Anderson shows, the most beneficial therapies focus on helping people accept themselves and live in harmony with their bodies. This understanding is vital for parents with children in schools where counselors may steer a child toward transitioning behind their backs.

Everyone has something at stake in the controversies over transgender ideology, when misguided "antidiscrimination" policies allow biological men into women's restrooms and penalize Americans who hold to the truth about human nature. Anderson offers a strategy for pushing back with principle and prudence, compassion and grace.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Melbac on 28.02.2021, 09:25:06
Ei ihme että pahkasika lopetti.Mistä hitosta nämä oikein keksii noita juttuja?.Jää ancient aliens jutut jo toiseksi ja juha af granin jutut alkaa kullostaa järkeviltä.:D
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 03.03.2021, 00:11:49
Woke-natseille ei enää riitä aivopesu kouluissa, homma pitää aloittaa heti syntymästä (ketju).

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QuoteThe Department of Education recommends a reading that claims babies are not "colorblind" and that parents must instill "antiracist attitudes and actions" beginning at birth, in order for their children to not "absorb bias from the world around them."

QuoteAnother recommended reading claims that "all white people are white in the context of a society that continues to disadvantage people of color based on race." The document teaches schools how to "change what it means to be white" and inculcate an "antiracist white identity."

QuoteThe Department provides additional resources for "families & community," telling white parents that they "can have a black friend, partner, or child and still be racist." The article claims that white people deny their own racism to "alleviate some of their white fragility."

Asiaan liittyen, siellä ollaan canceloimassa yli 650 miljoonaa lastenkirjaa myynyttä Dr. Seussia.

QuoteSix Dr. Seuss books cancelled due to allegations of racism

QuoteThis comes as President Joe Biden pulled Dr. Seuss' books from Read Across America Day, an initiative that was founded in the author's honor. The left-wing educators group called Learning for Justice demanded that Dr. Seuss books be removed from the reading list due to alleged "racial undertones" that are not suitable for "culturally responsive" learning in his children's books.

QuoteThe decision to cease publication of these Dr. Seuss works was reportedly made last year.

Dr. Seuss, who was born in 1904, is often considered the most successful children's author of all time. As of 2020, he was the second highest paid dead celebrity next only to Michael Jackson.

QuoteThe cancellation of Dr. Seuss has faced criticism from conservatives, with commentator Ben Shapiro saying "we've now got foundations book burning the authors to whom they are dedicated. Well done, everyone."

https://thepostmillennial.com/six-dr-suess-books-cancelled-due-to-allegations-of-racism (https://thepostmillennial.com/six-dr-suess-books-cancelled-due-to-allegations-of-racism)

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Vielä pari muuta.

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Aiempaan viestiin liittyen...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.03.2021, 00:10:25
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Aasialaiset, hyvin menestyvät maahanmuuttajat alkaa olemaan todellinen ongelma wokeisteille. He kun sen lisäksi, että eivät suostu alistumaan moraaliposeeraavien wokeistien paska-aatteille, vieläpä aktiivisesti ja julkisesti vastustavat niitä. Mutta no hätä, ainahan voi lietsoa vihavasemmiston tissiä imevät neekerit hakkaamaan ja tappamaan aasialaisia.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 05.03.2021, 00:39:03
^ mitenkähän ameriikan latinot suhtautuvat wokejengiin?  ;D

Muoti-ilmiöitä tulee ja menee, kaippa tähänkin woke kulttuuriin joskus tulee stoppi. Optimistin on pakko vain uskoa ihmiseen. Aikoinaan oli näitä muitakin hirvittäviä aatteita, joista selvittiin. Tai siis kaiken taustalla on tässäkin tämä vasemmiston tavoite legimitoida asemansa. Vaikka yritänkin uskoa ihmiseen, niin ei se asia miksikään muutu, että ihmiset pystyvät myös äärettömään pahaan. Woke-natsit voisivat parantaa maailmaa vaikka tekemällä aikuisabortin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.03.2021, 01:03:37
Quote from: zupi on 03.03.2021, 00:11:49
Woke-natseille ei enää riitä aivopesu kouluissa, homma pitää aloittaa heti syntymästä (ketju).

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Twiitti lasten aivopesuun lähtien 0-vuotiaasta >kuvana. Seuraavia sanontoja on kreditoitu myös aikamme tyranneille.

"Give me a child until he is 7 and I will show you the man."
― Aristotle, The Philosophy of Aristotle

"Give us a child till he's 7 and we'll have him for life."
― Jesuit saying
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 05.03.2021, 18:28:00
Quote from: zupi on 05.03.2021, 00:10:25
Anyone know of a solid film about the Chinese Cultural Revolution that we could promote so people can see what's going on around them?
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Kävisiköhän tämä?
QuoteA Jew in Mao's China

Even when I have been disenfranchised from God and synagogue, I have always been culturally proud to be a Jew. A source of that pride is the Jewish tradition of helping the oppressed, and our involvement in social movements such as labor and civil rights.

Until I saw the documentary "The Revolutionary" at the Philadelphia Independent Film Festival, I mistakenly thought that China during the revolutionary period was one country that had not felt the Jewish embrace. In fact, 85 to 90% of the foreigners helping the Chinese at the time of the Communist takeover were Jewish. This included the daughter of the founder of the brokerage firm Goldman Sachs, who left the comfort of her Park Avenue home to assist the Chinese.

The Revolutionary" tells the story of Southern-born, Sidney Rittenberg the only American that has ever been admitted to the Chinese Communist Party. The Mandarin-speaking Rittenberg, who was initially sent to China by the U.S. Army at the time of Japan's surrender at the end of World War II, became an influential advisor to Mao Zedong and to the first premier of the People's Republic of China, Zhou Enlai. His pivotal role at the Broadcast Authority, explaining the Communist Chinese point of view to America, earned him a higher salary than Chairman Mao.
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https://forward.com/schmooze/159051/a-jew-in-maos-china/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.03.2021, 21:38:46
Rufon viimeisin. Jotenkin käsittämätöntä, miten helposti ja ilman vastalauseita wokeistit voi Suomessa(kin) levittää noita paska-aatteitaan. Vieläpä mukamas jonain "tieteellisenä tutkimustietona", vaikka noilla aatteilla ei ole mitään, ei siis kerta kaikkiaan mitään todellista faktaperustaa. Jotain saatanan fiiliskyselyitä ihmisiltä, jotka vihavasurit on ensin opettanut vastaamaan oikein...  :facepalm: Ja sitten vielä kepulaiset ja kokkarit komppaa rinnalla. Kertoo paljon siitä, miten alas tuokin porukka on valmis vajoamaan, jos kuvittelevat asiasta jotain hyötyvänsä.

QuoteCritical Race Fragility

The Left has denounced the "war on woke," but it is afraid to defend the principles of critical race theory in public debate.

The critical race theorists are feeling the heat. Over the past decade, they have had remarkable success in perpetuating the concepts of systemic racism, unconscious bias, white privilege, and white fragility in American institutions, beginning with universities and moving on to schools, government agencies, and multinational corporations. Their campaign began mostly without opposition, as most conservatives were either ignorant of what was happening or dismissed it as a campus fad.

That changed last year. (...)

This shift in momentum against the new racial orthodoxy, which has now grown beyond America's borders to England, France, Italy, Hungary, and Brazil, has rattled the American Left. Their first argument against this change is that conservatives are using state power to "cancel wokeness." New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg recently followed this line, attacking my work "leading the conservative charge against critical race theory," declaring that the Right wants to ban critical race theory because it is afraid to debate it. This is false, of course. For more than a year, prominent black intellectuals, including John McWhorter, Glenn Loury, Wilfred Reilly, and Coleman Hughes have challenged the critical race theorists to debate—and none has accepted. After Goldberg published her column, I called her bluff even further, challenging to "debate any prominent critical race theorist on the floor of the New York Times." Predictably, none responded, catching the New York Times in a fib and further exposing the critical race theorists' refusal to submit their ideas to public scrutiny.

(...)

However, for the critical race theorists, opposing racism is not categorical; it is instrumental. Official discrimination against blacks and Latinos is considered "bad"; official discrimination against whites and Asians is considered "good." Following Herbert Marcuse's dictum on "repressive tolerance," the modern Left has begun to enact a regime of officially sanctioned double standards: discrimination is encouraged, as long as it advances the Left's power.

(...)

The critical race theorists, on the other hand, have embraced a philosophy of European-style pessimism, dismissing equality under the law as "mere nondiscrimination." They would replace it with a system of "equity" that treats individuals unequally in order to arrive at equal group outcomes. Most Americans, lulled into complacency by the race theorists' manipulative homonymy—suggesting continuity between "equality" and "equity"—would be outraged at the true nature of these ideas, which are simply a reformulation of the Marxist oppressor/oppressed dialectic, replacing the class categories of "bourgeoisie" and "proletariat" with the racial categories of "white" and "black."

(...) This is the proper context for evaluating critical race theory, which is an almost entirely government-created and government-sponsored ideology, developed in public and publicly-subsidized universities, formulated into policy by public bureaucracies, and transmitted to children in the public school system. The critical race theorists and their enablers at the New York Times and elsewhere want the right to enshrine their personal ideology as official state dogma. They prioritize the "freedom of the state" over the "freedom of the individual"—the prelude, whether deliberate or accidental, to any totalitarian system.

The backlash against CRT will likely come as a surprise to many adherents of the intellectual Left, who have become accustomed to dominance over our public institutions. They perceive any challenge to the dominant ideology as an affront, then search to backfill their preferences with high-minded concerns about "free speech" and "academic freedom." For the woke and their enablers in the media, there is no greater offense than transgression against The Narrative.

They better get used to it. The "anti-woke" movement is gaining momentum and building an infrastructure to contest this ideology in government, schools, and academia. The critical race theorists' strategic response—refusing to debate and hoping critics will go away—won't work. Eventually, the public will recognize their "critical race fragility" for what it is: a prickly refusal to submit one's ideas to vigorous public debate, often characterized by projection, emotional flagellation, and poor argumentation. Against the critical race theorists, we have begun to marshal investigative reporting, lawsuits, legislation, and parental activism—all in defense of American principles.

https://www.city-journal.org/the-left-wont-debate-critical-race-theory (https://www.city-journal.org/the-left-wont-debate-critical-race-theory)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 06.03.2021, 23:41:02
Taas yksi esimerkki siitä, ettei wokeistien tavoitteet oikeasti liity mitenkään niiden ihmisten aseman parantamiseen, joita he mukamas puolustavat, vaan pelkästään tietyn ideologian edistämiseen ja vallantavoitteluun.

QuotePaoletta: Amazon Prime Stops Streaming Clarence Thomas Documentary During Black History Month


(...)

Recently, Amazon Prime dropped Created Equal: Clarence Thomas in His Own Words, an acclaimed and popular PBS documentary on Justice Clarence Thomas, making it unavailable to stream during Black History Month.  Thomas is our nation's only black justice currently serving on the U.S. Supreme Court, and one would think that between Amazon's claim to "building an inclusive culture" and the fact that it's Black History Month, Amazon would want to stream this inspiring documentary on its platform.

(...)

Amazon has made a significant effort to celebrate black voices on its site during Black History Month, including films of Thurgood Marshall and even Anita Hill, but can't find any space for a documentary on our only sitting black Supreme Court justice? This makes no sense at all, other than Amazon made a decision to not show this film because Justice Thomas is a black justice who has conservative views.

(...)

Justice Thomas's incredible story is one that every American should know – and in particular, every black American. He was born in 1948 in deep poverty in the Deep South of segregated Georgia, living from birth under Jim Crow laws. His parents had almost no education, and his father left the family before he was two. Thomas's life changed when he was 7 years old, when he and his younger brother went to live with his grandparents.

Despite being uneducated, his grandfather built a small business delivering oil, coal, firewood, and ice in Savannah.  His grandfather was tough on Thomas and his younger brother, but they learned the values of hard work and perseverance.  Thomas's grandfather always said, "Old Man Can't is dead.  I helped bury him."

(...)

In his nearly 30 years on the Supreme Court, Thomas has developed the most comprehensive and consistent originalist jurisprudence of any justice to serve on the Court.  Leftwing legal writer Ian Millhiser wrote in 2018 that Thomas is "the most important legal thinker of his generation and the most significant appointment of the last forty years."  One well-regarded Supreme Court practitioner who founded the prominent SCOTUSblog noted that Thomas is "our greatest Justice."  CBS Supreme Court reporter Jan Crawford proved, based on internal Court documents, that Thomas was a force from the very first day he sat on the Court, pulling the Court in his direction.

But Thomas's views are anathema to "civil rights" leaders and groups, such as Al Sharpton and Black Lives Matter, who make their living and lots of money claiming that America is a systemically racist country and push policies that define individuals based only on the color of their skin.  This groupthink also led the African American History Museum in 2016 to exclude any exhibit on Justice Thomas in its first year of existence, despite Thomas being the second and longest-serving black Supreme Court justice in history, only begrudgingly adding a section that still is unfair to the justice.

In a conversation a few years ago where I was present, Thomas pointed out the absurdity of the left's progressivism by noting that everyone would agree that if a black man were barred from entering a library because of the color of his skin, that would universally and rightly be regarded as racist, but the left is fine with telling that same black man he can enter that library but he can never be allowed to agree with the content of certain books because of the color of his skin.

(...)

Thomas Sowell and the late Walter Williams – two accomplished and well-regarded black conservative economists – have written for decades about how liberal social policies beginning with Great Society programs in the 1960s and continuing today have failed miserably.  Can there be any doubt of failure for policies that have contributed to the black out-of-wedlock birthrate going from 11 percent in 1938 to more than 75 percent today? That 82 percent of black households were two-parent in 1950 and today more than 70 percent of black households are headed by a single mother?  But to question these policies is racist?

(...)

As these words show, Clarence Thomas is a man who speaks his mind and does not bend to anyone.  Created Equal covers Thomas's amazing life story in a one-on-one interview with Thomas that is unprecedented in Supreme Court history.

This is a film that should be widely streamed by Amazon at all times – and particularly during Black History Month – to show the diversity of thought in the black community and to celebrate Thomas's amazing life journey. Amazon does a great disservice to all Americans, and particularly black Americans, when it decides not to show an inspiring film about an incredible Black American during Black History Month.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/02/25/paoletta-amazon-prime-cancels-justice-clarence-thomas-documentary-during-black-history-month/ (https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2021/02/25/paoletta-amazon-prime-cancels-justice-clarence-thomas-documentary-during-black-history-month/)

Asiaan liittyen:

https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2019/09/blackout-of-thomas-sowell-williams/ (https://www.capitalismmagazine.com/2019/09/blackout-of-thomas-sowell-williams/)

QuoteIn 2015, Forbes magazine said: "It's a scandal that economist Thomas Sowell has not been awarded the Nobel Prize. No one alive has turned out so many insightful, richly researched books." Yet, thanks in part to the Ebony shutout, many blacks have never heard of him.

Sowellhan on mm. Steven Pinkerin mielestä historian aliarvoistetuin kirjailija. Kun on väärä väri yhdistettynä vääriin näkemyksiin...

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/prufrock/in-praise-of-thomas-sowell/ (https://www.theamericanconservative.com/prufrock/in-praise-of-thomas-sowell/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 07.03.2021, 00:44:16
Amerikassa tilanne on tällä hetkellä jotain näinkin edistyksellistä.. tai jopa mielisairasta..

Quote
Woman fired from her job because she looked at a black person "the wrong way "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzk2ERPnHg
0:59
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Supernuiva on 07.03.2021, 08:58:43
Quote from: JiM on 07.03.2021, 00:44:16
Amerikassa tilanne on tällä hetkellä jotain näinkin edistyksellistä.. tai jopa mielisairasta..

Quote
Woman fired from her job because she looked at a black person "the wrong way "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJzk2ERPnHg
0:59

Ja tämä ideologia tulee koskettamaan myös Suomea ja muutakin Eurooppaa. Ellei jo kosketa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 07.03.2021, 19:11:54
Quote from: Supernuiva on 07.03.2021, 08:58:43
QuoteWoman fired from her job because she looked at a black person "the wrong way "

Future looks so bleak i gotta wear shades.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.03.2021, 18:41:00
Tänne tämä sopinee parhaiten:

Ivan Puopolo: Ohisalon kuvaväärennös ja selitys woken suosiolle 8:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TsS8B95cPA

"Maria Ohisalosta tehtailtiin väärennös, joka leviää netissä. Disinformaatiota ei pidä kieltää, vaan se pitää paljastaa!"

Ivan meuhkaa hienosti wokesta. Suosittelen.  :D
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 09.03.2021, 01:18:06
Taas vähän vanhempi kirjoitus siitä, miten CRT / CSJ on kultti, ja muistuttaa monin tavoin esim. ISIS-liikettä. Ilmankos nuo tykkäävät toisistaan, ja joidenkin pitää saada ISISläisiä Suomeen vaikka lakia rikkomalla.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/critical-race-theory-victimization-cult/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/critical-race-theory-victimization-cult/) (29.6.2020)


QuoteCritical Race Theory is a Victimization Cult

It is not a particularly unique observation to notice that the Critical Social Justice movement, particularly the part that embraces Critical Race Theory, bears tremendous resemblance to a secular religion. (...)

While there is much merit in Professor Campbell's analysis, I wonder whether it goes far enough. Religion, when taken to extremes, tends no longer to promote love, acceptance, and a sense of community and fulfillment—the stated goals of most religions. Religious extremism promotes violence, intolerance, tribalism, and a deliberately confused mental state in its adherents. When that happens, when religion "goes to the dark side," we stop using the term religion, and start using the word "cult."

As a former CIA officer, I know what that kind of cult looks like. I can't write about my own counterterror operations, or any training I may have gotten from the CIA in persuasion and indoctrination without having to submit it for pre-publication review to the CIA. But nothing stops me from highlighting the work of others on the same topic, so we can see what the ideological conversion of a cult looks like up close and personal.

Some of the best journalism on the terror group ISIS—a cult within a religion—was done by Rukmini Callimachi, whose Peabody-winning podcast, The Caliphate presents a grim journey into the heart of darkness. It is not for the faint of heart, as it includes detailed descriptions of beatings, gruesome executions, and religiously-justified systematic rape.

The Caliphate follows a young Canadian whose nom de guerre is Abu Huzayfah. He starts as an ISIS fanboy watching videos of violence in the Syrian civil war, but when he shows up in online chat forums about the war, he gets engaged by lurking ISIS recruiters who use techniques explicitly designed to rob converts of the ability to think critically.

Eventually he finds himself in Syria, operating as an ISIS policeman, flogging a man bloody for the crime of not forcing his wife into a niqab, and executing fellow Sunni Muslims (who ISIS claims to protect) for the crime of not surrendering abjectly to ISIS. And how does he justify murdering follow Sunni Muslims? It's their fault, apparently. He had no agency in their deaths, even though he pulled the trigger. By not turning their town over to ISIS the instant ISIS appeared, "They killed themselves," he stated.

He finishes his direct involvement by fleeing ISIS territory after his second murder on their behalf, disillusioned, but no less full of willful blindness about the harm caused by his radical views, as well as convenient self-justifications for why he doesn't need to confess his murders to the Canadian police. This story, though far more brutal and gruesome, contains elucidating parallels to the rapid rise of Critical Race Theory in contemporary Western culture. Though there are many obvious differences, given our present context, it's worth examining how ISIS and Al Qaeda lure in recruits in some detail.

(...)(...)

In Hassan's book, Combating Cult Mind Control, he outlines what he calls the "BITE model" of cult manipulation. Not every cult follows every aspect of the BITE model, but every cult does some or most of the BITE techniques. These techniques begin lightly and get increasingly severe as cult recruitment progresses from initiation to indoctrination into reprogramming.

These techniques are relevant in all cult contexts. They are also clearly evidenced in the moral panic sweeping the country, which operates through the ideology of Critical Race Theory.

[James Lindsay: For the last several weeks, my Twitter DMs, private messages, and email are bombarded daily by messages from scared and upset people reporting the sinister instances of CRT in action in their own lives—from their workplaces to their institutions to their social lives and to their romantic relationships—the phrases and actions in brackets following each BITE bullet point are examples of how CRT is showing up in real life. Each echoes a commonplace sentiment in the CRT research and popular literature and its related social activism.]

The B in BITE is Behavior Control. It includes

Instill dependence and obedience ["Do better"]
Modify behavior with rewards and punishments ["This apology leaves a lot out and is still very racist"]
Dictate where and with whom you live [This is most nearly applicable in schools and various "spaces" that are to be "desegregated," by which is meant excluding white and white-adjacent people in the name of inclusion; easily extends to living arrangements]
Restrict or control your sexuality [more prominent in queer and trans activism than CRT, but characterizing lack of attraction to certain features as racism and attraction to them as exoticization and fetishization]
Control your clothing and hairstyle [cultural appropriation, decolonizing hair and fashion]

(...)

The I is Information Control

Deliberately withhold and distort information [decolonize the curriculum, remove "white" sources from the canon and education, characterize disagreement as "privilege-preserving" or "race-traitorous"]
Forbid you from communicating with ex members and critics [cancel culture, conservatives and liberals are Nazis]
Restrict access to non-cult sources of information [Those resources are written from a racist position in order to uphold white supremacy]

(...)

Require you to report your thoughts and feelings to superiors [forced confessions of complicity in racism or else one suffers white fragility]
Encourage you to spy and report on others' misconduct [cancel and dox culture]
Use "Big Brother" surveillance methods [everyone has a camera in their pocket and will load any racist behavior they can find onto the internet in a heartbeat]

The T is Thought Control

Teach you to internalize to internalize group doctrine as "Truth" (a la Robert Lifton's "sacred science") [Lived experience is the best arbiter of "lived realities"; Critical Race Theory is sociology, race research, or even "science," real science suffers white biases and isn't to be trusted, Critical Race Theory uses emotion and stories and thus is authentic, disagreement with Critical Race Theory is always ideologically and politically motivated by white supremacy; you need to forward black and brown voices; believe black (women); disagreement is false consciousness/internalized racism/willful or white ignorance]
Instill Black vs. White, Us vs Them, and Good vs. Evil thinking [racist versus anti-racist; there is no not-racist; choosing not to be anti-racist is choosing racism; there is no neutral; brown complicity is a form of anti-blackness that is pushed upon brown people by white supremacy and upholds it]

(...)

Use loaded language and clichés to stop critical/complex thought [all of the words "racist," "antiracist," "fascist," "antifascist," "Nazi," "alt-right," "sexist," "misogynist," "homophobe," "transphobe," "ableist," "fatphobic," and so on and endlessly so forth are clear examples; others include "white fragility"; "sounds about white"; "check your privilege"; "somebody's triggered"]
Teach thought-stopping techniques to prevent critical thinking and reality testing ["oh, look, another white man giving his opinion on Critical Race Theory"; disagreement is a means of "privilege-preserving epistemic pushback" just meant to maintain one's privileged status]
Reject rational analysis, critical thinking, and constructive criticisms [all engagement that isn't critical engagement is inauthentic, supports racism, comes from false consciousness, internalized dominance, internalized racism, willful ignorance, white fragility, biased, privilege preserving]

(...)

The E is Emotional Control

Instill irrational fears of questioning/leaving group [cancel culture, dox culture; accusations of being branded a racist and shunned or fired; you won't be part of "the community"]
Make you feel elitist and special ["you're on the right side of history"; "you're in solidarity with the Truth"]
Promote feelings of guilt, shame, and unworthy ["good white people"; "I define as a white progressive any white person who thinks they are not racist or less racist" and they are the worst for upholding white supremacy culture]
Elicit extreme emotional highs and lows ["you're on the right side of history"... "you did it wrong, centered yourself, you're still racist"]

(...)

An additional trait of CRT that likens it to cult environments is the hyper-attentive focus on the central idea of the cult doctrine: systemic racism, which is believed to pervade everything, be "ordinary," and is considered permanent. According to many CRT advocates, including the bestselling Robin DiAngelo, racism is present in and relevant to every interaction and circumstance. The question, she says, must move away from "did racism take place?" to "how did racism manifest in this situation?" For her, every situation and interaction contains racism, and the devotee of her program is to focus obsessively on finding it and calling it out.

(...)

Under CRT, then, race is expected to be given ultimate social significance and racism is believed to pervade every possible occurrence and interaction. Thus, race and racism are always of central relevance to CRT thought, which dramatically increases and focuses the control-based elements of the BITE model. All behavior must be CRT-appropriate. So must the information one takes in and communicates, the thoughts one has, and the emotions one expresses because anything else signals racism that must be "interrogated" and "dismantled."

(...)

In attributing all differences between different racial groups to racism, they're proposing univariate solutions to multivariate problems. This means not only is their project is doomed to fail and leave many black people stuck at the bottom of the socio economic ladder, it will do so only after wildly alienating the majority of the country. Moreover, "systemic racism" is intentionally vague enough to be quasi-spiritual in nature. It is, as James Lindsay has described it, "racism of the gaps" that can continually be appealed to as the cause of problems or disparities even when there is no evidence of discrimination or strong evidence against discrimination.

To pick just one example of how CRT's oversimplification provides incorrect diagnoses and solutions to what's driving systemic inequality in the black community, consider a line from "Black Lives Matter's" manifesto.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and "villages" that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

Notice the word missing from that phrase? Fathers. (...)

Critical Race Theory is not a recipe for racial progress, but unmitigated strife and ultimate disaster for black America and the broader America of which it is a part. This is why we need to turn our backs on this cult.


Art Keller is Contributing Editor at The Technoskeptic, covering privacy and national security. He has contributed to Quillette, Forbes, Newsweek, The New York Times, New York Daily News, The Washington Post, Foreign Policy, Value Walk, and West Point's counterterrorism journal, the CTC Sentinel. He is a former CIA case officer who combated terrorism and nuclear/missile proliferation. Select work is available at Artkeller.com. He is @artkeller on Twitter.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 10.03.2021, 14:00:17
Jälleen vähän tarinaa hyvien ihmisten aikaansaannoksista. Pelkkää pelkoa, vihaa ja kärsimystä. Noilta jutussa haastatelluilta olisi tietenkin voinut vittuillessaan kysäistä, että monikos teistä hankkii uutisensa NYT:stä, WaPo:sta ja CNN:stä, ja moniko äänesti demokraatteja viime vaaleissa...  :facepalm:

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https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-miseducation-of-americas-elites (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-miseducation-of-americas-elites)

QuoteThe Miseducation of America's Elites

Affluent parents, terrified of running afoul of the new orthodoxy in their children's private schools, organize in secret.

(...)

By normal American standards, they are quite wealthy. By the standards of Harvard-Westlake, they are average. These are two-career couples who credit their own success not to family connections or inherited wealth but to their own education. So it strikes them as something more than ironic that a school that costs more than $40,000 a year — a school with Charlie Munger, Warren Buffett's right hand, and Sarah Murdoch, wife of Lachlan and Rupert's daughter-in-law, on its board — is teaching students that capitalism is evil.

For most parents, the demonization of capitalism is the least of it. They say that their children tell them they're afraid to speak up in class. Most of all, they worry that the school's new plan to become an "anti-racist institution" — unveiled this July, in a 20-page document — is making their kids fixate on race and attach importance to it in ways that strike them as grotesque.

(...)

The parents in the backyard say that for every one of them, there are many more, too afraid to speak up. "I've talked to at least five couples who say: I get it. I think the way you do. I just don't want the controversy right now," related one mother. They are all eager for their story to be told — but not a single one would let me use their name. They worry about losing their jobs or hurting their children if their opposition to this ideology were known.

"The school can ask you to leave for any reason," said one mother at Brentwood, another Los Angeles prep school. "Then you'll be blacklisted from all the private schools and you'll be known as a racist, which is worse than being called a murderer."

One private school parent, born in a Communist nation, tells me: "I came to this country escaping the very same fear of retaliation that now my own child feels." Another joked: "We need to feed our families. Oh, and pay $50,000 a year to have our children get indoctrinated." A teacher in New York City put it most concisely: "To speak against this is to put all of your moral capital at risk."

(...)

That fear is shared, deeply, by the children. For them, it's not just the fear of getting a bad grade or getting turned down for a college recommendation, though that fear is potent. It's the fear of social shaming. "If you publish my name, it would ruin my life. People would attack me for even questioning this ideology. I don't even want people knowing I'm a capitalist," a student at the Fieldston School in New York City told me, in a comment echoed by other students I spoke with. (Fieldston declined to comment for this article.) "The kids are scared of other kids," says one Harvard-Westlake mother.

The atmosphere is making their children anxious, paranoid, and insecure — and closed off from even their close friends. "My son knew I was talking to you and he begged me not to," another Harvard-Westlake mother told me. "He wants to go to a great university, and he told me that one bad statement from me will ruin us. This is the United States of America. Are you freaking kidding me?"

Woke-Weaning for Harvard

These are America's elites — the families who can afford to pay some $50,000 a year for their children to be groomed for the eating clubs of Princeton and the secret societies of Yale, the glide path to becoming masters — sorry, masterx — of the universe. The ideas and values instilled in them influence the rest of us.

(...)

Power in America now comes from speaking woke, a highly complex and ever-evolving language. (...)

'Educated in Resentment and Fear'

"I am in a cult. Well, that's not exactly right. It's that the cult is all around me and I am trying to save kids from becoming members." He sounds like a Scientology defector, but he is a math teacher at one of the most elite high schools in New York City. He is not politically conservative. "I studied critical theory; I saw Derrida speak when I was in college," he says, "so when this ideology arrived at our school over the past few years, I recognized the language and I knew what it was. But it was in a mutated form."

This teacher is talking with me because he is alarmed by the toll this ideology is taking on his students. "I started seeing what was happening to the kids. And that's what I couldn't take. They are being educated in resentment and fear. It's extremely dangerous."

Three thousand miles away, in Los Angeles, another prep-school teacher says something similar. "It teaches people who have so much to see themselves as victims. They think they are suffering oppression at one of the poshest schools in the country."

(...)

'We Don't Call Them Newton's Laws Anymore'

The science program at Fieldston would make any parent swoon. The electives for 11th- and 12th-graders, according to the school's website, include immunology, astronomy, neuroscience, and pharmacology.

But physics looks different these days. "We don't call them Newton's laws anymore," an upperclassman at the school informs me. "We call them the three fundamental laws of physics. They say we need to 'decenter whiteness,' and we need to acknowledge that there's more than just Newton in physics."

(...)

A screenshot of "Accomplices Not Allies."

To question any of the curricular changes, parents say, is to make yourself suspect: "Every group chat I'm on with school parents, with the exception of my concerned parents' group, they have a pattern of shaming anyone who shares anything remotely political or dissents from the group narrative," one Brentwood mother wrote to me. "Once someone shames one person, many chime in agreement. The times I speak up to defend those they shame, they attempt to shame me."

(...)

One teacher told me that he was asked to teach an antiracist curriculum that included a "pyramid" of white supremacy. At the top was genocide. At the bottom was "two sides to every story."

"'Two sides to every story,'" he said. "That was on the racist pyramid."
The pyramid of racism includes "we all belong to the human race."

'Mom, I Just Found Out I'm Racist'

But the most important consequence of the woke ideology isn't a lesser English curriculum. It's that the ideology, which seems to touch every aspect of schooling now, has changed children's self-conception.

(...)

For high schoolers, the message is more explicit. A Fieldston student says that students are often told "if you are white and male, you are second in line to speak." This is considered a normal and necessary redistribution of power.

(...)

Doublethinkers in American High Schools

(...)

Some students are rebelling, which, in this case, looks like becoming a Republican. But others go all-in on the ideology, which has created conflicts with parents who don't. "The school has taken over as the moral guide, with me being the irritating person in the background who doesn't really get it," says one Harvard-Westlake mother.

So children learn how the new rules of woke work. The idea of lying in order to please a teacher seems like a phenomenon from the Soviet Union. But the high schoolers I spoke with said that they do versions of this, including parroting views they don't believe in assignments so that their grades don't suffer.

(...)

A Conspiracy of Silence

When I began working on this story, I didn't feel that much sympathy for these parents. (...)

The parents in this story are not parents with no other options. Most have the capital — social and literal — to pull their kids out and hire private tutors. That they weren't speaking out seemed to me cowardly, or worse.

The cynical answer for their silence is two words: Ivy League. "There are definitively rumors that the school has like, say, three picks for Duke and that if you stand up against this your kid will get blackballed," says one mother.

Another explanation is groupthink and social pressure. (...) Most people want to be members of the club."

I think it's true that many people would rather violate their stated principles than be iced out of their social network. But this is a situation that goes beyond getting shunted to a bad table at the Robin Hood gala. To resist this ideology is to go against the entire institutional world.

(...)

This ideology isn't speaking truth to power. It is the power.

Most alarmingly, the ideology is increasingly prevalent at the local public school. The incoming New York City schools chancellor is a vocal proponent of critical race theory. In Burbank, the school district just told middle- and high school teachers to stop teaching To Kill a Mockingbird and Of Mice and Men. The Sacramento school district is promoting racial segregation by way of "racial affinity groups," where students can "cultivate racial solidarity and compassion and support each other in sitting with the discomfort, confusion, and numbness that often accompany white racial awakening." The San Diego school district recently held a training in which white teachers were told that they "spirit murder" black children.

"I don't mean to get emotional, I just feel helpless," said one mother through tears. "I look at the public school and I am equally mortified. I can't believe what they are doing to everybody. I'm too afraid. I'm too afraid to speak too loudly. I feel cowardly. I just make little waves." Another tells me: "It's fear of retribution. Would it cause our daughter to be ostracized? Would it cause people to ostracize us? It already has."

(...)

Kun tuli "rasismipyramidista" puhe, niin lienee hyvä palauttaa mieliin:

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https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,125944.msg3265194.html#msg3265194 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,125944.msg3265194.html#msg3265194)

Michaela tuossa kyllä hyvin totetaa: "Olen kuullut sanottavan useamman kerran, että Suomessa ei voisi koskaan käydä kuten Yhdysvalloissa kävi. Eikö?" Niinpä.

Pistetään nämä vielä mukaan.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 12.03.2021, 19:17:48
Jokohan sitä pian Virheiden puoluekokoukset aloitetaan virkistävin Panche beh! huudoin?  :flowerhat: :facepalm:

QuoteRevenge of the Gods

California's proposed ethnic studies curriculum urges students to chant to the Aztec deity of human sacrifice.

(...)

The new program, called the Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum, seeks to extend the Left's cultural dominance of California's public university system, 50 years in the making, to the state's entire primary and secondary education system, which consists of 10,000 public schools serving a total of 6 million students.

(...)

R. Tolteka Cuauhtin, the original co-chair of the Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum, developed much of the material regarding early American history. In his book Rethinking Ethnic Studies, which is cited throughout the curriculum, Cuauhtin argues that the United States was founded on a "Eurocentric, white supremacist (racist, anti-Black, anti-Indigenous), capitalist (classist), patriarchal (sexist and misogynistic), heteropatriarchal (homophobic), and anthropocentric paradigm brought from Europe." The document claims that whites began "grabbing the land," "hatching hierarchies," and "developing for Europe/whiteness," which created "excess wealth" that "became the basis for the capitalist economy." Whites established a "hegemony" that continues to the present day, in which minorities are subjected to "socialization, domestication, and 'zombification.'"

The religious narrative is even more disturbing. Cuauhtin developed a related "mandala" claiming that white Christians committed "theocide" against indigenous tribes, killing their gods and replacing them with Christianity. (...) The ultimate goal is to "decolonize" American society and establish a new regime of "countergenocide" and "counterhegemony," which will displace white Christian culture and lead to the "regeneration of indigenous epistemic and cultural futurity."

This religious concept is fleshed out in the model curriculum's official "ethnic studies community chant." The curriculum recommends that teachers lead their students in a series of indigenous songs, chants, and affirmations, including the "In Lak Ech Affirmation," which appeals directly to the Aztec gods. Students first clap and chant to the god Tezkatlipoka—whom the Aztecs traditionally worshipped with human sacrifice and cannibalism—asking him for the power to be "warriors" for "social justice." Next, the students chant to the gods Quetzalcoatl, Huitzilopochtli, and Xipe Totek, seeking "healing epistemologies" and "a revolutionary spirit." Huitzilopochtli, in particular, is the Aztec deity of war and inspired hundreds of thousands of human sacrifices during Aztec rule. Finally, the chant comes to a climax with a request for "liberation, transformation, [and] decolonization," after which students shout "Panche beh! Panche beh!" in pursuit of ultimate "critical consciousness."

(...)

California parents should be concerned. Under the guise of "equity" and "empowerment," activists within the public education system have developed this radical new curriculum in order to transform California schools into factories for left-wing political activism. (...) it presents education not as a means of achieving competency, but as a "tool for transformation, social, economic, and political change, and liberation."

(...)

The state board of education will vote on this curriculum next week. Any sane governing body would reject it wholesale. Given the nature of California politics, though, the board is likely to pass it. (...)

https://www.city-journal.org/calif-ethnic-studies-curriculum-accuses-christianity-of-theocide (https://www.city-journal.org/calif-ethnic-studies-curriculum-accuses-christianity-of-theocide)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mangustin on 13.03.2021, 17:17:37
^ Eikö nää ole kuulleet Guadalupen Neitsyen ilmestyksistä atsteekkimaajussi Juan Diegolle?  Atsteekit luopuivat julmista jumalistaan, koska halusivat itse päästä turvaan niiltä hallitsevan eliitin kansan orjuuttamiseen käyttämiltä verenhimoisilta demoneita.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: IDA on 13.03.2021, 19:00:22
Quote from: Mangustin on 13.03.2021, 17:17:37
^ Eikö nää ole kuulleet Guadalupen Neitsyen ilmestyksistä atsteekkimaajussi Juan Diegolle?  Atsteekit luopuivat julmista jumalistaan, koska halusivat itse päästä turvaan niiltä hallitsevan eliitin kansan orjuuttamiseen käyttämiltä verenhimoisilta demoneita.

Eiköhän näiden tavoitteena ole nimenomaan atsteekkijumalien paluu. Äärimmäisen passiivisagressiivista porukkaa, mutta kyllä siellä taustalla on silti aito, villiintymistään odottava verenhimo.

Hector voisi näistä laulaa sen Käenpojan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.03.2021, 12:19:51
Kopioin tämän tännekin. Lievästi ketjun aiheeseen liittyen:

Scott Adams: Deprogramming your child  from occult wokeness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTRvY4c4TEU 11:46
Episode 1313 Scott Adams: Wokeness Cult Deprogramming, CNN Cancels Abe Lincoln, N Korea Misses Trump

(Automaattisesti luotu litteraatti, stilisoin, lisäsin pilkut, pisteet ja isot alkukirjaimet.)

...Let me ask you this : do you think the schools should teach  cult awareness  classes?

This idea came from jg bennett  on twitter. Imagine a cult awareness  class that comes immediately after your  critical  race theory class so imagine both of  those classes they teach critical race  theory  and then right after it there's a class  on recognizing cults.

Well i don't think that's going to  happen because it would never get  through the teachers unions and approved.  But i ask the following questions:

Suppose  there were some kind of a private  company  that offered the service of  deprogramming your child  from whatever occult wokeness things you  think they shouldn't be learning  in school. Would you buy that service?

I tweeted that and turns out a lot  of people would.

Now of course a lot of people say 'hey i  did buy that service it's called  homeschooling'.

... There are lots of private tutors  who augment what kids are learning in  school. ... Why would you not have a  special kind of tutor  who just comes in every let's say once a  once a year  and just deprograms your kid so that  they're not  indoctrinated  into too much of a wokeness cult?

... How long would it take  to teach it  and i was thinking i could do it in one  hour. You'd only need me - you know, if I were  part of this  company deprogramming your child - maybe  one hour  once a quarter once a year.

Something  like that wouldn't be a lot. And then I thought well, why don't I just  do a video on it  and people can have a single single  topic video  to deprogram your child, and i'll just  teach them the lessons in my book  Loser Think  and  maybe a little bit  from Win Bigly [Win Bigly: Persuasion in a World Where Facts Don't Matter ] about persuasion.

Loser think is about how to identify  which is what keeps you from being  indoctrinated in a cult. If you can identify what they're doing  while they're doing it you can say 'oh I see what's going on here'.

I could teach  that in an hour. I don't think it would take much longer  because here are the sort of things I would teach them:

[1] Do you know that if it's  not reported by both the left and the  right, it's probably not true.

[2] Did you know  that half of the things you think are  science turn out not to be true?

[3] Did you know that when they tell you to trust the science, that you don't ever see science?

All you  ever see is people who have interpreted  it for you, so you never even have a chance to trust science. It's not even an option. The only thing  you have is whether you trust the person  who interpreted it for you . And why would you? There's there's no law  that says you should trust people. Sure you should trust science,  but if the only thing you know about it comes from people ... don't trust the people.

So those are the  kinds of lessons. How long would it take to to  teach somebody just what i just told you? Well i did it in less than a minute. It was like three important points in  less than 60 seconds. Now of course you have to repeat things, and put a story around things, and  know make them sticky. But I think  about an hour  you could teach kids how to fend [pitää huolta itsestään] for  themselves and recognize a cult.

So i'm  thinking of doing that but i don't know  if i will.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 15.03.2021, 13:56:02
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Pitipä itsekin lukaista tuo artikkeli, on kyllä varsin hyvä esimerkki wokeistien toiminnasta ja ajatusmaailmasta. Pseudo-todellisuutta, liioittelua, valehtelua, herjaamista, psykopaattisuutta, maalitusta, uhriutumista, vihan lietsomista, marxilaisuutta, kaikkea mahdollista... Ja tietenkin varsinainen pääpointti on eri mieltä olevien sensuroinnin vaatiminen, nyt siis Substackin kohdalla. Jonne siis moni järkevä toimittaja on viime aikoina paennut valtamedian sensuuria.

https://doyles.substack.com/p/in-queers-we-trust-all-others-pay (https://doyles.substack.com/p/in-queers-we-trust-all-others-pay)

QuoteIn Queers We Trust. All Others Pay Cash.

(...)

In the first months of 2018, I received an email from Hamish McKenzie, asking me to consider writing for his new platform. I had never heard of Substack, at that point, and nor had anyone else. (...)

There were writers who could make money out of this, Hamish assured me. If you worked at it full time, with at least four posts a month, preferably multiple posts a week, you could almost make as much as a real job.  (...)

(...) Here's what I think: Three years down the line, I'm still a feminist, I'm out as a trans person, and in the time I've been writing here, Substack has become famous for giving massive advances — the kind that were never once offered to me or my colleagues, not up front and not after the platform took off — to people who actively hate trans people and women, argue ceaselessly against our civil rights, and in many cases, have a public history of directly, viciously abusing trans people and/or cis women in their industry.

Glenn Greenwald started his Substack by inveighing against trans rights and/or ACLU lawyer Chase Strangio, is currently using it to direct harassment at a female New York Times reporter, and has repeatedly used his platform to whitewash alleged rapists and domestic abusers.  (...)

Tuli muitakin nimiä, mutta eiköhän Greenwaldin läpikäynti riitä:

Greenwald siis kritisoi sitä, että nykyajan teineille suunnattua trans-aivopesua arvostelevan kirjan myynti yritettiin kieltää, ja että tuo ACLUn tyyppi kannusti ja juhlisti näitä pyrkimyksiä. -> trans-vastainen
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-ongoing-death-of-free-speech (https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-ongoing-death-of-free-speech)

Ja kirjoitti siitä, että miten NYT:n tähtitoimittajaa, jonka työ ilmeisesti koostuu lähinnä väärinajattelijoiden metsästämisestä ja canceloinnista, tarvittaessa vaikka valehtelemalla, pitää voida kritisoida ilman, että kyseinen toimittaja uhriutuu ja koko NYT / valtamedia hyökkää kimppuun. -> ahdistelee naistoimittajaa
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/criticizing-public-figures-including (https://greenwald.substack.com/p/criticizing-public-figures-including)

Ja on puolustanut sananvapautta / Julian Assangea USAn / UKn viranomaisten metsästykseltä -> valkopesee väitettyä raiskaajaa
https://theintercept.com/2019/04/11/the-u-s-governments-indictment-of-julian-assange-poses-grave-threats-to-press-freedoms/ (https://theintercept.com/2019/04/11/the-u-s-governments-indictment-of-julian-assange-poses-grave-threats-to-press-freedoms/)

(Ottamatta nyt itse kantaa asiaan) Ja on kirjoittanut siitä, että 12-13 vuotiaana varsin ikäviä tytöille tehnyttä, nykyisin 19-vuotiasta "progressiivista" poliitikonalkua tulisi kohdella samalla tavoin kuin muitakin lapsena pahoja tehnyttä, ja ehkä kannattaisi ainakin kuunnella mitä henkilöllä itsellään on sanottavana -> puolustaa "perheväkivaltaa"
https://theintercept.com/2020/08/21/aaron-coleman-the-19-year-old-progressive-who-won-his-kansas-primary-speaks-about-his-troubled-past-and-promising-present/ (https://theintercept.com/2020/08/21/aaron-coleman-the-19-year-old-progressive-who-won-his-kansas-primary-speaks-about-his-troubled-past-and-promising-present/)

Siis ihan normi woke-meininkiä, kaikki syytökset on joko täyttä paskaa, tai sitten kirjoittajan itsensä sekopäisiä tulkintoja.

QuoteThose are just the assholes. Increasingly, Substack is tolerating and funding extreme trans-eliminationist rhetoric: They host Jesse Singal, a high-profile supporter of anti-trans conversion therapy who is also widely known to fixate on and stalk trans women in and around the media industry. I would list Jesse's targets, but at this point, I don't know a trans woman in media who doesn't have a story.  (...)

Mitä tutustuin asiaan, niin todellakin, hyvin monella transulla on stoori, yhdelläkään ei kuitenkaan ole toistaiseksi ollut esittää mitään todisteita väitteidensä tueksi. Mutta eihän sillä tietenkään ole näille mitään merkitystä, vaan pelkästään sillä, miten nämä wokeistit sekopäisissä pikku päissään asian ovat tulkinneet. Ja tietenkin, pitää sitä woke-kaveria aina tukea, vaikkei edes tietäisi koko asiasta mitään. No, takaisin tähän artikkeliksi kutsuttuun oksennukseen.

QuoteI'm not even listing all the problematic bylines here. (Andrew Sullivan! Bari Weiss!) Those bylines themselves are not the problem. Self-publishing platforms can't control who signs up. Substack isn't a self-publishing platform, though. It curates its writers. It pays them, sometimes massively, and it makes choices as to who gets paid well and who doesn't. We've seen instances of tech companies allowing hate group leaders to acquire huge followings through negligence, from white supremacist YouTube stars to a President who has to be banned from Twitter for trying to start a civil war, but those were cases where the platforms failed to keep bigots out. Substack is actively bringing the bigots in. Then it's giving them paychecks.

So where is Substack getting the money to pay the TERFs? Simple: From me.

Substack takes a small percentage of my subscription money, and that money goes to fund the writers they view to be better investments. I give them my money, and they use that money to pay men who have, in several instances, stalked or harassed either me or people I care about. (...) I gave Substack my trust, my name, and my credibility, and it used that credibility to platform hate groups aimed at eliminating me and everyone I care about from the face of the planet.

This is a very clear instance of how patriarchy and capitalism function together: Value is extracted from gender-marginalized writers, who are expected to work on bad and frankly insulting terms, and the wealth generated by those writers is then given to a select handful of mostly-white men who ceaselessly attack and seek to erode those workers' civil rights. I don't support it. I don't think any trans person should support it. Yet, by using the platform, I am inevitably enmeshing myself in that system of oppression, working for the people who are working for our destruction.

Coexisting with this knowledge is the painful truth that I think the actual work I do here is good. It might be some of the best writing I've done in recent years. My particular voice — idiosyncratic, conversational, prone to oversharing and going long — tends to work well in an informal context like a blog or a newsletter. Especially now that I'm transitioning, I need a place to put those more intimate and direct pieces, and the newsletter has become my favorite place to do that. I think this is probably the purest showcase for who I am as a writer, and I don't want to lose it.

I also don't want to lose the income. I honestly can't remember what percentage Substack takes, but it's low, between seven and fifteen percent. Until recently, I've never had enough subscribers for it to matter. That's my fault: The platform couldn't offer serious terms, so I never took it seriously. (...)

Yet media is a precarious place to work. I've lost seemingly secure jobs for reasons beyond my control — a department got axed, a grant didn't get renewed, a friendly editor was replaced by one who wanted to go in a different direction — and if you work freelance, which I typically do, you can't file for unemployment when that happens. This place is my unemployment office. I've gotten to the point that I could use Substack to cover the rent if I lost all my other jobs. It's not a quarter-million bucks, but it matters.

So I have a choice to make, a choice that neither I nor any gender-marginalized person should ever have to make: Either I walk away from a necessary income stream and creative outlet, or I stay and allow my work to fund abuse, harassment, misogyny, and a movement that wants trans people silenced, impoverished, invisible and dead.

(...) Only Substack can remedy this situation, and it can do it only by shutting down platforms it's gotten a lot of money from and cis male voices it values a lot more highly than mine.

To be clear: There are also cis feminists taking major advances from Substack. They are not the ones threatening to quit; they are not freezing their subscriptions to deny Substack a (considerably bigger) chunk of change; they are not the ones most directly or severely impacted by the kinds of hate Substack is promoting, even though several of the men I've cited above, like Greenwald and De Boer, are misogynists and rape apologists in addition to their other problems. (...)

(...)

QuoteUPDATE #2: Hamish McKenzie has written a blog post justifying Substack's decisions.  (...)

In essence, Hamish believes that history will decide whether trans people are human beings deserving of civil rights. Or, at least, this is what he's arguing on behalf of the company he co-founded. He intimates vaguely that there are "other companies," in essence telling trans writers to stop using Substack if we don't want to work for and with people who believe us to be subhuman.

Ja Hämiksen vastaus siis oli:

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Vielä "artikkelin" lopusta:

QuoteHamish McKenzie has made no effort to communicate with me, either publicly or privately, since this post was published.

Tosi outo juttu, kun noin rakentavasti yritetään avata keskustelua...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 17.03.2021, 14:36:28
Kun Suomessakin on ilmeisesti kriittinen rotuteoria jo täydessä käytössä, niin heitetään tähän yksi artikkeli asiasta.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/reasons-critical-race-theory-terrible-dealing-racism/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/reasons-critical-race-theory-terrible-dealing-racism/)

QuoteEight Big Reasons Critical Race Theory Is Terrible for Dealing with Racism

As unlikely as it seems, a highly obscure academic theory known as Critical Race Theory has completely mainstreamed in society, and now everyone is discussing it. While Critical Race Theory has the noble goal of pointing out problems that can be hard to see and that maintain or constitute racism, it turns out to be a remarkably bad way of going about this. A little familiarity with the basic principles of Critical Race Theory and how they go wrong can help with this.

Before I begin, I offer my apologies to the reader. Critical Race Theory has been growing for over 40 years, and it has many deep problems. Therefore, this is long, and still it is not nearly complete. (...)

1) Critical Race Theory believes racism is present in every aspect of life, every relationship, and every interaction.

(...)

These assumptions lead people who take up Critical Race Theory to look for racism in everything until they find it. That is, after all, the job of a "critical" theorist or activist: to look for the hidden problems that they assume must be present in whatever they scrutinize.

In the workplace that adopts Critical Race Theory, this means that it's only a matter of time until someone with that worldview finds out how your entire company and its culture is "racist." At that point, they will cause a meltdown that forces everyone to take sides and demand a reorganization of the entire (now divided) office culture and management.

In schools, it will mean teaching our children to think this way and always be looking for racism in every situation and interaction.  (...)

2) "Interest convergence": White people only give black people opportunities and freedoms when it is also in their own interests.

(...)

The Interest-Convergence Thesis makes it literally impossible for anyone with any racial privilege (again, as outlined by Critical Race Theory) to do anything right because anything they do right must also have been self-interested. If Critical Race Theory makes a demand of people with any form of racial privilege and they comply, they just make themselves more complicit in "racism" as Critical Race Theory sees it. By giving people no way out, Critical Race Theory becomes deeply manipulative and unable to be satisfied in its lists of demands.

3) Critical Race Theory is against free societies.

Believe it or not, Critical Race Theory is not a liberal idea. It is, in fact, critical of liberal societies and against the idea of freedom to its core. Critical Race Theory sees a free society as a way to structure and maintain inequities by convincing racial minorities not to want to do radical identity politics. (...)

These movements [Critical Theory movements upon which Critical Race Theory is based] initially advocated for a type of liberal humanism (individualism, freedom, and peace) but quickly turned to a rejection of liberal humanism. The ideal of individual autonomy that underlies liberal humanism (the idea that people are free to make independent rational decisions that determine their own fate) was viewed as a mechanism for keeping the marginalized in their place by obscuring larger structural systems of inequality. In other words, it [free society] fooled people into believing they had more freedom and choice than societal structures actually allow. (p. 5)

In other words, Critical Race Theory sees free societies and the ideals that make them work—individualism, freedom, peace—as a kind of tacit conspiracy theory that we all participate in to keep racial minorities down. When its advocates accuse people of being "complicit in systems of racism," this is part of what they mean. Obviously, they would prefer that we do not have free societies and would rather arrange society as they see fit and make us all go along with their ideas.

4) Critical Race Theory only treats race issues as "socially constructed groups," so there are no individuals in Critical Race Theory.


Critical Race Theory isn't just against free societies and the individualism that enables them, but it also doesn't even believe individuals meaningfully exist at all! In Critical Race Theory, every person has to be understood in terms of the social groups they are said to inhabit, and these are determined by their identity, including race. (...)

Critical Race Theory forces people into these averages, though, and considers them primarily in terms of their group identity rather than their individual identity. This is part of why they use the word "folks" instead of "people"—it designates a social group.

Thus, in Critical Race Theory, the goal of ideally treating every person as an individual who is equal before the law and meant to be judged upon the contents of their character and merits of their work is considered a myth that keeps racial minorities down. Instead, it sees people according to their racial groups only. (...)

5) Critical Race Theory believes science, reason, and evidence are a "white" way of knowing and that storytelling and lived experience are a "black" alternative.

Remember above, where Delgado and Stefancic said that "normal science" is a part of the everyday, ordinary racism of our societies? That's because Critical Race Theory is not particularly friendly to science (...)

Since modern science was predominantly produced by white, Western men, Critical Race Theory therefore views science as a white and Western "way of knowing." Critical Race Theory therefore maintains that science encodes and perpetuates "white dominance" and thus isn't really fitting for black people who inhabit a (political) culture of Blackness.

(...)

Continuing the genuinely racist thinking that black people aren't suited to or served by science, Delgado and Stefancic say that storytelling about their "lived experience" is the primary mode by which black people and Critical Race Theory produce and advance knowledge. Importantly, these lived experiences are only considered valid if they agree with Critical Race Theory.  (...)

While stories can be informative, to create a position that science is a "way of knowing" for white, Western people (especially men) and storytelling is one more suited to racial minorities, Critical Race Theory is itself racist (against racial minorities) and cripples the people it claims to help. This happens in multiple ways, including by undermining their capacity for critical thinking, teaching them to see the world in an us-versus-them way that oppresses them, and associating them with harmful, negative stereotypes that rigorous methods are what white people, and not black people, use.

6) Critical Race Theory rejects all potential alternatives, like colorblindness, as forms of racism.

(...)

In fact, as you might guess now, it sees the idea of "colorblindness" as one of the most racist things possible because it hides the real racism from view. "While colorblindness sounds good in theory, in practice it is highly problematic," write Sensoy and DiAngelo (p. 108). (...)

While there is a point here—that being too colorblind can cause someone not to see racism at all, even when it is a real problem and especially when its influence is subtle (this is called "racism-blindness")—the remedy Critical Race Theory gives to this imperfection in the colorblind approach is to do exactly the opposite. Thus, racism has to be made relevant in every situation where racism is present, which is every situation, as we saw in point #1 above, and it has attached incredible amounts of social significance to race and how it factors into every interaction. That means you have to find and focus upon the "hidden" racism in your workplace, your school, your society, your neighborhood, your books, your food, your music, your hobbies, your faith, your church, your community, your friends, your relationships, and yourself (and everything else too) all the time, according to Critical Race Theory.

This has the opposite of the putatively intended effect. Although it does cause people to see some legitimate racism that they would have otherwise missed, it makes all of our relationships and social systems extremely fragile and tense, ready to explode over a highly divisive issue. (...)

7) Critical Race Theory acts like anyone who disagrees with it must do so for racist and white supremacist reasons, even if those people are black.

Following the "social construction" thesis discussed above in point #4, Critical Race Theory has outlined what the essential experience of each racial group is. It then judges individual people (especially of minority races) on how well they give testimonial to that experience—which is to say, they judge individual people based on how well they support Critical Race Theory. This makes it impossible to disagree with Critical Race Theory, even if you are black.

(...)

This phenomenon can be explained. As Nikole Hannah-Jones, creator of the New York Times Magazine 1619 Project (a Critical Race Theory historiography—not an article of history), tweeted (and then deleted) that there is "racially black" on the one hand, and "politically Black" on the other. Critical Race Theory is only interested in the identity politics associated with being "politically Black," and anyone who disagrees with Critical Race Theory—even if "racially black"—does not qualify. The common way to phrase this is that they are "not really Black." This means that in Critical Race Theory, diversity (which it calls for often) must be only skin deep. Everyone's politics must agree and must agree with Critical Race Theory.

This is obviously much worse a problem for white people or others who are said to have "racial privilege." There are more concepts in Critical Race Theory to deal specifically with how and why white people are racists for disagreeing with Critical Race Theory than perhaps any other idea. (...) All of these ideas implicate racially privileged people in racism anytime they disagree with Critical Race Theory.

88) Critical Race Theory cannot be satisfied.

We have already seen how Critical Race Theory cannot be disagreed with, even by black people. We have also seen how it rejects all alternatives and how it believes any success that it has comes down to "interest convergence." Because it rejects science, it cannot be falsified or proven wrong by evidence, and because it assumes racism is present and relevant to all situations and interactions, even the acceptance of Critical Race Theory must somehow also contain racism. Therefore, Critical Race Theory cannot be satisfied. It is, in this way, like a black hole. No matter how much you give to it, it cannot be filled and only gets stronger—and it will tear apart anything that gets too close to it.

(...)

And that's not all!

This is a grim but fair description of Critical Race Theory, and, what's worse, it's woefully incomplete. There are other horrible ideas at the very core of Critical Race Theory that fall in this same mold that we do not have time to list here. (...)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 19.03.2021, 01:42:45
Viime vuosisadan puolella oli parikin ideologiaa, joiden kannattajien mielestä vanhemmat eivät osaa kasvattaa lapsiaan oikein, vaan yhteiskunnan pitää puuttua asiaan. Tietenkin kaikki yrittävät aina vain edistää hyvää asiaa.

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(ketju)

Toinen juttu samasta aiheesta, ja kenenkä nimi nousee esiin... Ja taas listoja, niitä nämä kyllä oikein rakastavat.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/loudoun-teachers-target-parents-critical-race-theory-hacking (https://www.dailywire.com/news/loudoun-teachers-target-parents-critical-race-theory-hacking)

QuoteTeachers Compile List Of Parents Who Question Racial Curriculum, Plot War On Them

"Infiltrate... shut down their websites... expose these people publicly"

A group of current and former teachers and others in Loudoun County, Virginia, compiled a lengthy list of parents suspected of disagreeing with school system actions, including its teaching of controversial racial concepts — with a stated purpose in part to "infiltrate," use "hackers" to silence parents' communications, and "expose these people publicly."

Members of a 624-member private Facebook group called "Anti-Racist Parents of Loudoun County" named parents and plotted fundraising and other offline work. Some used pseudonyms, but The Daily Wire has identified them as a who's who of the affluent jurisdiction outside D.C., including school staff and elected officials.

The sheriff's criminal investigations division is reviewing the matter — but the group's activities might be no surprise to top law enforcement because the county's prosecutor, narrowly elected with the help of $845,000 in cash from George Soros, appears to be a member of the Facebook group.

(...)(...)

Jänskä juttu, miten tietty porukka otti Suomessa niin kovasti nokkiinsa, kun täällä yritettiin aloittaa "ilmiantokampanjaa" opettajien natsi..., ei kun siis woke-sikailusta. Eikä pidä tarttua tarkkoihin sanamuotoihin, Suomessa asiat luultavasti hoidetaan vähän peitellymmin.

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Loppuun vielä tämä...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jetsku on 19.03.2021, 05:00:09
^^
QuoteAs Nikole Hannah-Jones, creator of the New York Times Magazine 1619 Project (a Critical Race Theory historiography—not an article of history), tweeted (and then deleted) that there is "racially black" on the one hand, and "politically Black" on the other. Critical Race Theory is only interested in the identity politics associated with being "politically Black," and anyone who disagrees with Critical Race Theory—even if "racially black"—does not qualify. The common way to phrase this is that they are "not really Black." This means that in Critical Race Theory, diversity (which it calls for often) must be only skin deep. Everyone's politics must agree and must agree with Critical Race Theory.

Tässä on hyvä esimerkki siitä, miten huonosti CRT & co. sopivat Suomeen. Yhdysvaltain ja Suomen konteksteissa "poliittinen rotu" saa täysin erilaiset merkitykset. Eihän näitä ole mitenkään sovitettavissa Suomeen. Suomessa ehkä saamelaisilla ja romaneilla voi olla jotain oikeutta näistä puhumiseen, mutta saamelaisten asiat ovat hyvin ja romanit enimmäkseen ovat ihan itse omien ongelmiensa takana. Toki jos nyt sattuu olemaan se ahkera romani, niin voi olla hieman vaikeampaa saada työtä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.03.2021, 23:36:14
Tässä twiittiketjussa kerrotaan vähän tarkemmin siitä, miten vihavasurit aivopesee lapsia / nuoria. Pistän tähän nyt lainauksina, twiittiketjussa mukana havainnollistavia kuvia.

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Quote1/
"Sit with it"

This is the meme level version of the "pedagogy of discomfort."

The goal is to use discomfort/shame to destroy your moral authority and create emotional vulnerability they can exploit in order to manipulate you.

It's a disgusting and manipulative tactic.

2/
The point is to accuse people of bigotry (IE racism and sexism) and then force them to "sit with the uncomfortable emotions and body sensations that arise when encountering potentially difficult topics."

The academic literature in Social Justice says this explicitly:

3/
To fill you with as much shame/discomfort as possible, they try to prevent "turning away in fear and/or getting hijacked by intellectualizing"

In other words, you're not allowed to leave (turn away) or use your brain to think about what they tell you (intellectualizing)

4/
The pedagogy of discomfort weaponizes shame to make people feel vulnerable and guilty about participation in "systems of power" like "whiteness, racism, and sexism" and then makes them stew in their shame, confussion, and dissonance.

Once people feel bad and worthless...


5/
The Social Justice Activist offers the person a way to stop feeling horrible:

They tell you that you can stop being horrible if you convert to Social Justice by "becoming an anti-racist" and committing to "do the work."


It's every bit as manipulative and abusive as it sounds

6/
Most woke activists haven't actually read the literature on the pedagogy of discomfort.

They learn the tactic by seeing other woke activists use it, and learn that shaming people with accusations and telling them to "sit with it" is an effective way of manipulating people...

7/
The meme level version of this, which @R_Denhollander
is using, is to just blame people for horrible things that happen, shame them for "not caring," on insinuate they are responsible for something they didn't do, and then tell them to "sit with it."

It's disgusting...

8/
The always brilliant @ConceptualJames
did a thread on this where he explains how the "pedagogy of discomfort" is tied in to the rest of Social Justice ideology.

I highly recommend you read it here: (https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1128298479376326658 (https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1128298479376326658))

9/
This is a gross, ugly, manipulative, way of interacting with people.

Learn how to see it coming, call it out for what it is, and reject it whem they use it.

"Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus"   -Romans 8:1

/fin

Alla pätkiä Lindsayn erillisestä kirjoituksesta, missä käsiteltiin "kriittistä pedagogiikkaa".

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-critical-pedagogy/ (https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-critical-pedagogy/)

Quote(...)

Critical pedagogy is the application of critical theory to and in education. To help unravel what's contained in critical pedagogy—which is one of the most important concepts in Critical Social Justice—we should begin by noting that "pedagogy" means "theory of education." Critical pedagogy therefore includes at least two related things at once: applying critical theory to the theory of education itself and making education be about teaching critical theory. In the shortest summary, critical pedagogy is a school of thought that is about making education be about instruction in critical theory in an attempt to make the goal of education be to awaken a critical consciousness in students and teachers (and, perhaps, also to achieve equity in education, i.e., radical equality of outcomes—see also, wokeness).

(...)

Critical pedagogy seems to have been an instrumental part of how critical theory and, subsequently, (applied) postmodern Theory have managed to mainstream themselves. Colleges of education have been under the sway of this line of thought for some time, and more than a generation of students have now been raised and educated with critical pedagogy playing some, if not a significant, role in their education. Because of the desire, even need, to wed Theory to praxis within education, as education is simultaneously theoretical and applicable at once, critical pedagogy has been a very effective site for Theory to become more practical and applicable and for this point of view to be taught (as a truth) to students.

Critical pedagogy is, as one might expect, a very broad subject, not least in that it has been developing at least since the late 1970s and somewhat earlier and because it can apply to the teaching of anything. Theoretically now, it is very interested in a variety of topics, particularly what might be described as a "critical constructivist epistemology" (as Joe Kincheloe termed it) as well as means of overcoming resistance to a critical education. The first of these is interested in how systems of power influence how knowledge(s) are produced, legitimated, and understood (see also, hegemony), and the second is concerned with ways in which a critical consciousness can be taught, including by being forced upon people who aren't interested in it and who reject it. In this regard, many of the more concerning elements coming out of critical whiteness studies owe a great deal to the effort to apply that set of ideas within education.

Under the banner of the first of these objectives—critical constructivist epistemology—we have a strong adherence to social constructivism, which posits that the ways in which ideas and phenomena (especially knowledge, status as a knower, ways of knowing, etc.) are ultimately social constructions that need to be interrogated by means of the methods of critical theory. This strong adherence should not be mistaken for a recognition that there is relevance to understanding many phenomena in terms of how it can be regarded a social construction. It refers to something much stronger: that the most relevant feature of these phenomena is that they are socially constructed (which can be read as almost, but not quite, synonymous with "arbitrary," thus, "capable of being made different") and learned through socialization (see also, hegemony). A multitude of specialized concepts exists to Theorize these ideas, including epistemic injustice, testimonial injustice, hermeneutical injustice, epistemic oppression, and epistemic violence, to name a set of closely interrelated few.

This epistemological approach is then engaged in praxis through tools like "critical hope," which is kind of the opposite of hope (as it is the "hope" that comes from engaging critically with the despair induced by systemic power), and, ominously, the "pedagogy of discomfort." This latter idea posits that students must be made to feel discomfort and left to rest in that discomfort if they are to reckon with, confront, and eventually become genuinely critical of their privilege. This discomfort is, in fact, Theorized to be a necessary component in getting students to confront privilege, which is heavily Theorized as being naturally resistant to being confronted through critical methods (see also, internalized dominance, white comfort, white complicity, white equilibrium, white fragility, white innocence, white ignorance, white silence, white solidarity, white talk, white women's tears, colortalk, racial contract, aversive racism, racial stress, racial humility, racial stamina, active ignorance, pernicious ignorance, willful ignorance, and privilege-preserving epistemic pushback). The goal of this sadistic approach to educating is to induce a perverted form of epistemic friction that is necessary to open up space for new learning. These are the tools relevant to the second of these banners—overcoming students' resistance to a critical "education."

(...)

Eihän tuollaista Suomessa? Katso ensimmäinen liitekuva Turun yliopiston kurssikuvauksesta.

QuoteKriittinen pedagogiikka Suomessa

Suomessa kriittisestä pedagogiikasta on kirjoittanut muun muassa Juha Suoranta kirjassaan Radikaali kasvatus [4]. Kasvatus-lehden numero 1/2006 teemana oli kriittinen pedagogiikka. Aihetta tarkastellaan myös Tomi Kiilakosken, Tuukka Tomperin ja Marjo Vuorikosken toimittamassa teoksessa Kenen kasvatus? [5]. Aino Hannula on tutkinut väitöskirjassaan Tiedostaminen ja muutos Paulo Freiren ajattelussa [6] kriittisen pedagogiikan tunnetuimman edustajan filosofiaa. Sanna Ryynäsen väitöskirja Nuoria reunoilla. Sosiaalipedagoginen tutkimus rikollisuuden ja väkivallan keskellä elävien nuorten kasvun tukemisesta brasilialaisissa kansalaisjärjestöissä [7] hyödyntää Freiren ajattelua ja liittyy kriittiseen pedagogiikkaan.

Aihepiiristä on suomennettu Henry Giroux'lta ja Peter McLarenilta Tapio Aittolan ja Juha Suorannan toimittamana teos Kriittinen pedagogiikka, McLarenin teos Che Guevara, Paulo Freire ja vallankumouksen pedagogiikka, useita Theodor Adornon ja Max Horkheimerin tekstejä ja Paulo Freiren pääteos Sorrettujen pedagogiikka (1968/2005), jonka lopussa on laaja lähdeluettelo suomalaisesta Freire-kirjallisuudesta.[8] Lisäksi kriittisen pedagogiikan suomalaisia tutkimusavauksia on koottu kolmiosaiseen Kriittisen pedagogiikan kysymyksiä -kirjasarjaan [9], [10], [11].

Kriittistä pedagogiikkaa on Suomessa kehitelty myös suhteessa muihin osallistaviin tutkimusmenetelmiin ja kantaa ottaviin teoreettisiin ajattelutapoihin Juha Suorannan ja Sanna Ryynäsen kirjassa Taisteleva tutkimus (2014).

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriittinen_pedagogiikka (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriittinen_pedagogiikka)

Mainittakoon tämä:
QuoteJuha Suoranta (s. 24. helmikuuta 1966 Tampere) on suomalainen tietokirjailija ja Tampereen yliopiston aikuiskasvatuksen professori vuodesta 2006[1].

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha_Suoranta (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha_Suoranta)

Juha menee näköjään Twitterissä vähän stealth-moodissa, Sanna avautuu vähän enemmän. Kannattaa käydä tutustumassa.

Näiden sankarien tuotos:

QuoteTaisteleva tutkimus on ensimmäinen suomenkielinen perusteos "taistelevista" tutkimusmenetelmistä. Taisteleva tutkimus tarkoittaa kriittisesti kantaa ottavaa ja toiminnallista tutkimusta, jossa sosiaalista todellisuutta tarkastellaan ja maailmaa muutetaan yhdessä eri toimintakentillä työskentelevien ihmisten kanssa.

Ehdotamme kirjassamme, että yhteiskuntatieteilijän tehtäväksi on kirjoittamisen ja julkaisemisen lisäksi tullut osallistuminen ja yhteistoiminta. Kirjassa kootaan yhteen eri tutkimusperinteitä, kuten sorrettujen ja vapautuksen pedagogiikka, kriittinen psykologia, kriittinen ja osallistuva toimintatutkimus, julkinen sosiologia, työläistutkimus, sosiologinen aikalaisanalyysi ja yhdessä kulkemisen menetelmä.

Taisteleva tutkimus rohkaisee yhteiskuntatieteellisten alojen opiskelijoita vaikuttamaan yhteisiin asioihin ja tarttumaan toimeen. Se neuvoo kansalaistoimijoita tutkimuksen ja aktivismin yhdistämiseen ja antaa välineitä elämänolosuhteiden parantamiseksi.

"Taisteleva tutkimus on ilman muuta uraauurtava teos aiheesta, josta ei suomeksi ole aikaisemmin näin perusteellisesti kirjoitettu!"
>> Pentti Stranius, Kansan Uutiset, Verkkolehti 11.7.2014

https://kauppa.intokustannus.fi/kirja/taisteleva_tutkimus/ (https://kauppa.intokustannus.fi/kirja/taisteleva_tutkimus/)

Ja Kansan uutisista:

https://www.kansanuutiset.fi/artikkeli/3198815-tutkija-aktiivisena-toimijana (https://www.kansanuutiset.fi/artikkeli/3198815-tutkija-aktiivisena-toimijana)

QuoteTutkija aktiivisena toimijana

Juha Suorannan ja Sanna Ryynäsen Taisteleva tutkimus on sopivaa kesälukemista, sillä tietokirjaksi se on harvinaisen kansantajuinen. Tekijät eivät ole kuivanasiallisia kammiotutkijoita, vaan osallistuvia toimijoita, jotka osaavat innostaa oppilaitaan.

Suoranta (s. 1966) on tunnettu laadullisten tutkimusmenetelmien erittelijä ja vaihtoehtoisten mallien etsijä Tampereen yliopistosta. Ryynänen (s. 1972) on asunut, tutkinut ja osallistunut kansalaistoimintaan muun muassa Brasiliassa. (...)

Pääpaino on viime vuosikymmenissä ja kirjoittajat kantavat suurta huolta siitä, kuinka vähän akateeminen maailma oikeasti osallistuu tutkimuksissaan hätää kärsivien ja sorrettujen asialle. Yliopistot ovat unohtaneet kuuluisan "kolmannen tehtävänsä", vaikuttamisen yhteiskuntaan. Keskeinen käsite on praksis. Se edellyttää tutkijalta teorian ja käytännön yhteenliittämistä, osallistumista, aktivismia. Maailman selittäminen ei riitä. On oltava niiden puolella, jotka haluavat pois "sorron yöstä".

Kirjan toisessa osassa esitellään käytäntöjä, liikkeitä, tutkimusmalleja. Sellaiset termit kuten vapautuksen sosiologia ja teologia, kriittinen etnografia, toimintatutkimus, uusi työläistutkimus, anarkistinen metodologia, feministinen tutkimus, ekologinen aktivismi, militanttitutkimus tulevat näkyviksi ja monin tavoin analysoiduiksi myös kriittisessä mielessä. Kolmannessa osassa paneudutaan siihen mitä on tehtävä ja kuinka opitaan "taistelevaksi tutkijaksi".

(...)

Toistan aiemmassa viestissä esittämäni "ihmetykseni" siitä, miten tietty porukka niin kovasti pahastui siitä, että julkisuuteen pitäisi tuoda tietoa siitä, mitä siellä kouluissa oikeasti opetetaan.

Loppuun vielä yksi linkki, jos joku haluaa käydä tutustumassa siihen, missä tällä hetkellä mennään. Toinen liitekuva liittyy tähän. Lyhyt lainaus:

QuoteYhteiskunnassa vallitsevaan eläinkäsitykseen ja eläinsuhteeseen liittyen tutkimustuloksissa nousi esiin ihmiskeskeisyys ja lajisorto. Vallitseva eläinkäsitys korostaa eläinten erilaisuutta ja alemmuutta ihmiseen verrattuna. Vallitseva eläinsuhde on dualistinen, hierarkkinen, riistävä, sortava, hallitseva, toiseuttava ja välineellinen.

Eläinten asemaa tuotetaan ja ylläpidetään yhteiskunnassa monenlaisilla mekanismeilla, joita ovat talousjärjestelmä, näkymättömyys, etääntyminen, tietämättömyys, hegemonia, normalisointi, sosiaalinen konstruointi ja diskurssit. Tutkimustulosten mukaan eläimiä ei yleensä oteta huomioon kasvatuksen kontekstissa. Kasvatus uusintaa eläinten asemaa, kun se normalisoi vallitsevan eläinkäsityksen ja eläinsuhteen.

Eläinten vapautuminen sorrosta on tärkeää paitsi eläinten itsensä, myös ihmisten ja luonnon vuoksi. Eläinten vapautuminen vaatii aivan uudenlaista eläinkäsitystä ja eläinsuhdetta. Tutkimustulosten perusteella kasvatuksella on tärkeä rooli kulttuurin uudistamisessa, muutoksen mahdollistamisessa ja eläinten vapautumisessa.

https://erepo.uef.fi/handle/123456789/23187 (https://erepo.uef.fi/handle/123456789/23187)

VMP ja eipä tarvi ihmetellä, miksi suuri osa Suomen nuorista vetää mielialalääkkeitä ja toimii kuten toimii.

Edit. Linkki.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 21.03.2021, 01:16:18
Quote

Appalling BBC Broadcast : We want to kill whitey, but not today

https://gab.com/a/posts/105916981123226442

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 23.03.2021, 01:02:24
Tuossa edellä on lyhyesti käsitelty "kriittistä pedagogiikkaa" ja tuo eläinjuttu liittyy ilmeisestikin "kriittisiin eläintutkimuksiin". Jälkimmäinen on näiden sekopäisyyksien uusin aluevaltaus, mistä löytyy juttua esim tuolta:

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/10/boldly-go-critical-animal-studies-final-frontier/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/10/boldly-go-critical-animal-studies-final-frontier/)

Lyhyet lainaukset alusta ja lopusta.

QuoteTo Boldly Go: Critical Animal Studies (CAS), the Final Frontier

An article from this summer in Psychology Today by Katherine Compitus demonstrates how far critical social theories can take us if fully imbibed. In the article, Compitus attacks "speciesism," which is "the concept that one species (usually human) considers themselves superior to other species." No species is superior, just different, says Compitus. Instead, she prefers to relegate all species to the lowest common denominator: "We are all living beings."

Compitus is horrified that some anachronistically minded people haven't yet bought into this—the barbarians, if you can believe it, still use oppressive words like "master" and "owner" to "describe their superior position in relation to their pets." This offends Compitus on principle because she has sanitized her memory of any real distinction between humans and other animals. But speciesism is all the more terrible because "Recent studies in the intersectionality of oppressed people and animals have shown how similarly marginalized humans are treated to non-human animals." For example, there are "similarities between the way women are oppressed by society and how animals are dismissed, bullied, and oppressed by society."

Speciesism is also a problem because it, and the "oppressive language" endemic to it, is tantamount to anti-black racism. Compitus looks to Benedicte Boisseron's Afro-Dog: Blackness and the Animal Question (2018) which employs Critical Race Theory (CRT) to analyze how both people of color and "non-human animals" are marginalized and oppressed, and how (per intersectionality) the oppression of one by the dominant class (in this case, white humans) reinforces and compounds the oppression of the other and adversely affects the relationship between the two groups. (We will return to Boisseron later.)

To combat the racist implications of our language, and the "dominance theory" embedded therein, Compitus advises speaking of "including" the dog, not "using" it. We don't own dogs; we are their "guardians," not "masters." We don't discipline or "correct" or punish animals; that's bullying.

(...)(...)

CAS presents a truly frightening prospect: the elimination of the most basic foundation of Western civilization, the priority and unique status of human beings. The result is the relegation of all "living beings" to animal status. Ironically, where CAS theorists think that the elimination of species distinctions will eliminate the means of oppression, it will, in fact, almost certainly make it easier to dehumanize whoever the marginalized group happens to be. If we are all relegated to the lowest common denominator then whatever can be done to an amoeba can be done to a human person. Any argument otherwise would be arbitrary and capricious.

CAS has followed the same trend in the academy as other critical social theories: slowly transitioning from a niche discipline to being regularly featured on course schedules to making appearances in mainstream publications.[46] The sheer absurdity of the discipline and its core assumptions should not induce us to sleep on it, as they say. We must recognize that if half-baked ideas like "white fragility" can so easily and quickly capture the public discourse then so too can ideas like "speciesism." The same lazy logic and resentful worldview animates—to use a word no doubt offensive to CAS scholars—both.

The New York Times article quoted above relays arguments based on a human-centric standard. That is, if certain non-human animals use language and even possess an analog to our conception of morality, then is a distinction really as stark as we imagine? That was 2012. Things have progressed since. Now, the cutting-edge scholars detest such human-centric arguments. The human-animal binary is socially constructed and should be dismantled because it is oppressive, full stop. To allow some animals to qualify for legal rights or a diminished form of personhood only perpetuates the liberal status quo that centers humans and elevates rationality.

This signals a big shift in only a few years. Presumably, CAS theorists were making such arguments all along. The difference is that they are now quite comfortable openly expressing them to the public, and even more so in college classrooms. This development is even scarier when we survey the gullibility of the media and intellectual class, at the moment, for anything having to do with race. The connection made between the speciesist binary and racism makes CAS ripe for more mainstream reception. Look for it soon at a course list, think piece, and protest event near you! If CAS is fully imbibed—not an unlikely prospect given what we've seen so far—we will move rapidly from "four legs good, two legs better" to "four legs good, two legs just the same," or, if you like, "all animals are equal, some are more equal than others," to "all animals are equal, and we are all just animals." We are all farm animals now.

Were the Grievance Studies team to attempt another hoax today they might have a more difficult time. The CAS literature is almost beyond parody. A specious connection between dog parks, misogyny, and rape culture is one that a publication like the Journal for Critical Animal Studies would almost certainly accept. The only question would be whether "Helen Wilson" could come up with a proposal that was radical enough.

Ja Suomi kulkee luonnollisesti kehityksen keihäänkärjessä...

Oikeastaan piti kuitenkin kirjoitella "feministisestä pedagogiikasta", joka tuntuu olevan näiden... kröhöm... tieteilijöiden suosima suuntaus Suomessa. Tuollain niin kuin yleisten havaintojen perusteella. Eikä ole tämä(kään) mikään uusi asia.

QuoteRekola, Hilkka – Vuorikoski, Marjo. 2006. FEMINISTINEN PEDAGOGIIKKA RAJOJEN
YLITTÄJÄNÄ. Kasvatus 37 (1) 16–25.

Artikkelissa tarkastellaan bell hooksin kehittelemän feministisen pedagogiikan ideoita.
Hooksin pedagogiikkaa voi luonnehtia kriittisen pedagogiikan suuntaukseen kuuluvaksi
vapauttavaksi koulutustavaksi, jolla pyritään horjuttamaan vallitsevia ajattelu- ja määrittelytapoja,
totuttuja rajoja ja valtasuhteita.
Hooksin kehittelemässä opetuksellisessa
lähestymistavassa, osallistavassa pedagogiikassa, hierarkkisia valtasuhteita puretaan luomalla
tasa-arvoinen oppimisyhteisö
. Osallistujat – niin opettajat kuin oppijatkin – nähdään
aktiivisina toimijoina ja kokonaisina ihmisinä tunteineen ja kehoineen. Osallistavan
pedagogiikan anti kriittiselle pedagogiikalle on merkittävä: bell hooks ei jää yleisten
tavoitelausumien esittämiseen, vaan hän kehittelee konkreettisia opetuskäytäntöjä kriittisen
teorian tavoitteiden saavuttamiseksi.

QuoteFeministinen ja kriittinen pedagogiikka
ovat sateenvarjokäsitteitä, joiden alle kuuluu
erilaisista teoreettisista perustoista ammentavia
lähestymistapoja koulutuksen ja opetuksen
kehittämiseksi tasa-arvoisempaan
suuntaan. Molemmissa suuntauksissa lähtökohtana
on, että kasvatus ja koulutus tuottavat paitsi tietoa myös poliittisen ja ideologisen
subjektiuden. Muita yhteisiä tekijöitä ovat
muun muassa eettisten kysymysten korostuminen,
pyrkimys poikkitieteelliseen tietoon,
näkemys tiedon historiallisuudesta sekä yhteiskunnallisen
tiedostamisen lisääminen.

Feministisen ja kriittisen pedagogiikan
pitkälti yhdenmukaiset lähtökohtaoletukset
eriytyvät monien feministipedagogien mielestä
sukupuolten tasa-arvoa koskevissa kysymyksissä.
Feministisen pedagogiikan edustajat
katsovat, että kriittinen pedagogiikka ei ota
riittävästi huomioon naisnäkökulmaa. Feministipedagogit
painottavat naisten aseman
parantamista, tiedon uudelleenarviointia feminististen
teorioiden pohjalta sekä feminististen
teorioiden soveltamista kasvatustieteessä
ja pedagogisissa käytännöissä.

QuoteFeministiseen pedagogiikkaan kuuluu
erilaisista teoreettisista perustoista ammentavia
lähestymistapoja
(ks. Vuorikoski 2005, 48–
49). Niiden keskeisiä avaintermejä ovat empowerment
(valtauttaminen) ja voicing (äänen
antaminen
). Ne kuvaavat pedagogisia ratkaisuja,
joilla valtaa pyritään opetustilanteissa jakamaan.
Valtauttamisen käsitteellä viitataan
opiskelijoiden oman olemassaolon oikeuden
tunnustamiseen ja voimistamiseen. Äänen
antaminen tarkoittaa opiskelijoiden itsetiedostuksen
lisäämistä ja itseilmaisun tukemista.
Perusajatuksena on autoritaarisen opetuksen
mallin murtaminen sellaisella pedagogiikalla,
joka antaa tilaa opiskelijoiden omille kokemuksille
ja vahvistaa näin heidän subjektiuttaan
.

QuoteBell hooksin kehittelemä opetuksellinen
lähestymistapa osallistava pedagogiikka (engaged
pedagogy) tarkoittaa, että opetus on opettajan
ja oppijoiden yhteinen projekti
.

https://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiH4tKJ_8TvAhWktYsKHRwcDc4QFjAAegQIAxAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmycourses.aalto.fi%2Fmod%2Fresource%2Fview.php%3Fid%3D365471&usg=AOvVaw2cHGS-wcga2VIkABcEDqZY (https://www.google.fi/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiH4tKJ_8TvAhWktYsKHRwcDc4QFjAAegQIAxAD&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmycourses.aalto.fi%2Fmod%2Fresource%2Fview.php%3Fid%3D365471&usg=AOvVaw2cHGS-wcga2VIkABcEDqZY)

Pitkä, ylistävä kirjoitus, eiköhän nuo lainaukset riitä. Lähinnä oli tarkoitus osoittaa, että tuo on myllännyt Suomessa jo 15 vuotta. Ja useimmat myös tietänee, mitä on tapahtunut suomalaisten PISA-tuloksille tuona aikana... Mutta hei, wokeisteja on ainakin helvetin paljon enemmän...

Erityisesti juuri tällä hetkellä "feministinen pedagogiikka" tuntuu olevan nosteessa. 2018 ilmestyi tällainen.

QuoteFeministisen pedagogiikan ABC — Opas ohjaajille ja opettajille

Feministisen pedagogiikan ABC on yleistajuinen tietokirja, joka on suunnattu opettajille ja ohjaajille erilaisissa oppimisen ympäristöissä. Kirja antaa esimerkkejä siitä, miten monesti haastavilta tuntuvia sukupuolta, seksismiä ja rasismia eli vallankäytön muotoja koskevia teemoja voidaan sisällyttää opetukseen rakentavalla tavalla.

Opetuksessa tarvitaan keinoja käsitellä sukupuolen moninaisuutta, hierarkkisoivia eroja ja antirasistisia käytänteitä. Sukupuolen moninaisuuden ja risteävien erojen ymmärtäminen sekä normikriittisyys ja antirasismi pedagogisena asenteena kytkeytyvät kaikki feministisen pedagogiikan käytäntöihin. Kirja toimii myös inspiraation lähteenä ja johdatuksena erilaisiin toiminnallisiin menetelmiin sekä vinkkikirjana kokeneillekin opettajille.

Kirja koostuu yleistajuisista tietokirjoituksista, joissa esitellään feministisen pedagogiikan juuria ja keskeisiä ajatuksia, feministisen pedagogiikan historiaa Suomessa sekä intersektionaalisuutta opetuksessa. (...)

https://vastapaino.fi/sivu/tuote/feministisen-pedagogiikan-abc/2737058 (https://vastapaino.fi/sivu/tuote/feministisen-pedagogiikan-abc/2737058)

Kirjan "arvostelu":

https://journal.fi/kasvatusjaaika/article/view/84816/47404 (https://journal.fi/kasvatusjaaika/article/view/84816/47404)

QuoteMiksi meidän kaikkien pitäisi olla feministisiä pedagogeja

Suomessa koulutusjärjestelmän ja koko yhteiskunnan läpäissyt tasa-arvoisuuden illuusio on
vaikeuttanut keskustelua sukupuolen, yhteiskuntaluokan ja etnisen taustan vaikutuksesta
opettamiseen ja oppimiseen. (...)

QuoteFeministisen pedagogiikan ABC – Opas ohjaajille ja opettajille onkin kaivattu, otteeltaan
ja visuaaliselta ilmeeltään kutsuva käsikirja, jonka tarjoamilla näkökulmilla ja työkaluilla
voimme tarkastella ympärillämme olevia eroja. Kirja on kokoelmateos ja se ovat toimittaneet
kokeneet tutkija-opettajat Anu Laukkanen, Sari Miettinen, Aino-Maija Elonheimo,
Hanna Ojala ja Tuija Saresma. He ovat myös sukupuolentutkimusverkosto Hilman
keskeisiä hahmoja sekä antaneet feministisen pedagogiikan opetusta verkoston kautta. (...)

Tuija Saresma lienee sama kuin persujen haukkuja Tuija, Hallis on rasisti Tuija ja vihapuhetutkimus Tuija. Ja siis sama Tuija, joka oli mukana koostamassa hälytyssanalistaa, mitä myös se "NATO"-tutkimus käytti. Pienet on piirit Suomessa...

QuoteTeoksen nimi Feministisen pedagogiikan ABC saattaa ohjata ajattelemaan "vain" naisten
ja tyttöjen oikeuksia. Feministinen pedagogiikka ei kuitenkaan ole pelkästään sukupuolen
huomioimista opetuksessa ja yhteiskunnassa tai sukupuolten välisten erojen korostamista.
Sen sijaan feministinen pedagogiikka pyrkii olemaan eroille herkkää pedagogiikkaa.

Kyse ei ole vain naiserityisten kysymysten havaitsemisesta vaan myös sukupuolen moninaisuuden,
seksuaalisuuden, värin, iän, luokan, ruumiin muodon ja kyvykkyyden perusteella
muodostuvien erojen tiedostamisesta.

QuoteTeos on rakenteeltaan selkeä, sisällöltään monipuolinen ja ilmavasti taitettu, mikä tekee
lukukokemuksesta miellyttävän.
Teos tarjoaa lyhyitä käsitteellisteoreettisia katsauksia
sukupuolentutkimuksen peruskäsitteisiin ja feminismin perusteemoihin: mitä on esimerkiksi
sukupuolisensitiivisyys, yhteiskuntaluokka, ableismi tai queer. Kirja koostuu taustoituksesta,
yleistajuisista tietokirjoituksista (esim. "antirasistinen koulu"), harjoituksista ja
menetelmäkuvauksista
sekä lyhyistä tietoiskuista. Taustoituksen ja tietoiskujen lisäksi teoksessa
on paljon erilaisia, mainiota työkaluja ja ideoita, joita voi käyttää opetuksessa (esim.
etuoikeuskävely). Lopusta löytyy myös sanasto.

Tietokirjoituksissa käydään läpi feministisen pedagogiikan taustaa: teoreettisen perustan
nähdään nivoutuvan Paulo Freiren ajatteluun ja sosiaalista oikeudenmukaisuutta tavoittelevaan
kriittiseen pedagogiikkaan. Feministiaktivisti bell hooks kehitti vapauttavan kasvatuksen
ajatusta
(teaching to transgress) ja yhdisti kriittiseen pedagogiikkaan postkolonialistisen
feminismin ajatuksia sukupuolittamisesta ja rodullistamisesta
. Vaikka taustoitus on kirjassa
todella lyhyt, se avaa, miten feministisessä pedagogiikassa korostuvat dialoginen opetus
ja yhdessä tietämiseen pyrkivä tapa, jotka purkavat opettajan ja oppilaan välistä hierarkiaa
ja tallentavan opetuksen (banking education) mallia. Feministisen pedagogiikan keskeiseksi
tavoitteeksi onkin muotoiltu "pyrkimys rohkaista oppijaa ajattelemaan itse ja
kriittisesti ja tuottaa tietoa yhdessä opettajan ja toisten oppijoiden kesken."

VMP. Jostain kumman syystä lopputuloksena on aina vihavasemmistolaisten ideologioiden mukaisten ajatusmallien ylistäminen.

QuoteVaikka teos tavoitteidensa mukaisesti soveltuu hyvin laajalle kirjolle erilaisia pedagogeja,
korkeakoulun lisäksi myös peruskoulu ja aktivismi mukaan lukien, se tarjoaa yllättävän
vähän työkaluja siihen, miten olla feministinen pedagogi "kovilla aloilla" kuten matematiikan,
luonnontieteiden ja terveystieteiden parissa. Riittääkö moninaisten erojen tiedostaminen
vai onko se vasta ensimmäinen askel? Miten tiedostaminen viedään käytäntöön ja esimerkiksi
matematiikan, biologian tai kvantitatiivisten menetelmien opetukseen korkeakouluissa?


Kirja ei myöskään käsittele perinteistä ammattialojen horisontaalista ja vertikaalista
segregaatiota
ja siitä seuraavia koulutuksen ja työelämän tasa-arvokysymyksiä, esimerkiksi
miksi tytöt päätyvät useammin opiskelemaan hoiva- ja kasvatusaloille ja pojat teknisille
aloille ja johtaviin tehtäviin. Kirjan tietoiskut yhteiskuntaluokasta, ableismista tai queerista
ovat erittäin tarpeellisia kaikille aloille ja eri oppilaitoksissa työskenteleville, mutta lisäksi
tarvitaan myös kättä pidempää ja vertaistukea. Jäämme siis odottamaan kirjan kakkososaa!

QuoteArmi Mustosmäki on tutkijatohtori yhteiskuntatieteiden tiedekunnassa, sukupuolentutkimuksen
oppiaineessa Tampereen yliopistossa.

Tuolta muuten löytyy Osmo Tammisalon läpikäynti kirjasta:

http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2019/01/opas-feministiseen-propagandaan.html (http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2019/01/opas-feministiseen-propagandaan.html)

En ala tuota sen enempää lainailemaan, pari nostoa kuitenkin. Mielestäni Osmo yrittää, ihan turhaan, ymmärtää sellaista, mikä on täysin sekopäistä. Tuota hulluutta ei pitäisi yrittää ymmärtää yhtään, sen levittäminen pitäisi vaan estää.

QuoteKolmen viime vuoden aikana olen uudelleen haastanut joitakin sukupuolentutkimuksessa esitettyjä ajatuksia ja yleisemmin myös feminististä retoriikkaa (täällä, täällä, täällä, täällä ja täällä). Kritisoimieni ajatusten esittäjät ovat tällä kertaa kieltäytyneet keskustelemasta, kenties jopa kuuntelemasta. En usko, että he ovat yli-itsevarmoja tai ylenkatsovat kirjallista keskustelua. Altistuminen akateemiselle feminismille tai sukupuolentutkijaksi identifioituminen eivät voi viedä kykyä mielipiteenvaihtoon. Jostakin muusta on kyse. Ehkä perusteluni ovat vastaansanomattomia? Ehkä perusteluni on esitetty väärällä tavalla?

Osmon kannattaisi tutustua James Lindsayn kirjoitukseen siitä, miksi wokesakki ei suostu väittelyihin. Osmokin kuitenkin näkee tämän:

QuotePS. Kokonaisuutena teos saattaa olla rönsyilevin lukemani tietokirja. Eräs luku kertoo esimerkiksi QTF-itsepuolustuksesta (QTF=queer- ja transfeministinen). Siitä löytyy myös kirjan yllättävin kommentti:

    S. 186: QTF-itsepuolustus on parhaimmillaan osa sellaista feminististä politiikkaa, jossa ymmärretään kapitalistisen yhteiskunnan seuraukset eri ihmisryhmille. Se sisältää laajemman poliittisen analyysin ja sen pyrkimyksenä on vankiloiden lakkauttaminen.

Vertaa tuota Armin kommenttiin, "Teos on rakenteeltaan selkeä, sisällöltään monipuolinen ja ilmavasti taitettu, mikä tekee
lukukokemuksesta miellyttävän"...

Ilmavasti taitettu...  :P Mutta onneksi Armin suuri toive toteutuu, mikä ei tietenkään liity mitenkään nykyhallitukseen.

QuoteOlemme toimittamassa Feministinen pedagogiikka – murrokset ja utopiat –kirjaa (työnimi), joka on itsenäinen jatko-osa vuonna 2018 ilmestyneelle suuren suosion saaneelle teokselle Feministisen pedagogiikan ABC– opas ohjaajille ja opettajille.

Kirja jatkaa keskusteluja kriittisestä pedagogiikasta, sukupuolesta ja intersektionaalisuudesta opetuksessa ja ohjauksessa sekä nostaa esille pedagogiikassa ja opetusympäristöissä tapahtuneita muutoksia.

Kirjassa käsitellään feministisen pedagogiikan mahdollistamia muutoksia opetuksessa ja ohjauksessa sekä jaetaan hyviä käytäntöjä. Lisäksi mietitään, mitä ovat ne muutokset ja murrokset, jopa utopiat, jotka ovat vasta tuloillaan ja joiden haluaisimme tapahtuvan, ja kysytään, mitä toimintamahdollisuuksia ja uudenlaisia toiminnan tiloja ne avaavat.

Feministinen pedagogiikka – murrokset ja utopiat –kirja on tarkoitettu käytettäväksi opetuksen ja ohjauksen eri konteksteissa aina peruskoulusta yliopistoon. Haemme kirjaan seuraavanlaisia tekstejä:

1)teoriakeskeisiä, mutta yleistajuisia tietotekstejä
2) konkreettisia ja kokeiltuja feministisen pedagogiikan käytäntöjä ja kokemuksien kuvauksia
3) opettamisen ja ohjaamisen tulevaisuutta hahmottelevia utopioita.

Ajankohtaisia ja kirjassa käsiteltäviä aiheita ja teemoja ovat esimerkiksi sukupuolen moninaisuus, saavutettavuus, rodullistaminen ja rasismi, etäpedagogiikka ja oppilaitosten toiminnan kehittäminen tasa-arvo- ja yhdenvertaisuusnäkökulmasta.

https://blogs.helsinki.fi/hilma-verkosto/ajankohtaista/ (https://blogs.helsinki.fi/hilma-verkosto/ajankohtaista/)

VMP  >:(
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 24.03.2021, 14:26:28
Tuosta feministisestä pedagogiikasta vielä. Mikä siis käytännössä tarkoittanee opettamista intersektionaaliseen feminismiin pohjautuen. Toisin sanoen, intersektionaalisen feminismin levittämistä.

Alla Osmo Tammisalon kirjoitus lähes kuuden vuoden takaa, missä asiaa käsitellään teoksen Eroja ja vaarallisia suhteita – Keskustelua feministisestä pedagogiikasta (toim. Jaana Saarinen, Hanna Ojala & Tarja Palmu, Jyväskylän yliopisto 2014) kautta. Tuon feminismi termin ei kannata kuitenkaan antaa liikaa hämätä, sillä käytännössä kaikki CSJ-teoriat pohjautuvat samaan sontaan: Etsitään eroja ryhmien väliltä ja päätetään, täysin tämän päätelmän vastaisista faktoista piittaamatta, että ne erot ovat VHM:n rakentaman "tietokäsityksen" ja sorron seurausta. Ennen kuin asioita voidaan alkaa parantamaan, on siis irtauduttava länsimaisen patriarkaatin / valkoisen ylivallan ja kapitalismin irvokkaasta otteesta, koska nämähän ovat erottamattomasti sidoksissa toisiinsa. Tarkoitan tässä lähinnä siis sitä, että vaikka feministinen pedagogiikka / intersektionaalinen feminismi on ehkä se käytetyin käsite Suomessa, ja taas esim. USAssa se on kriittinen rotuteoria, niin periaatteet, mitä siellä tuodaan esiin, ovat täysin samat. Tuo, mikä käsite kussakin maassa nostetaan esiin, liittynee pitkälti maan väestörakenteeseen.

Ja nykyisinhän tuo VHM, tai millä nimellä sitä äärimmäistä pahuutta nyt kutsutaankaan, alkaa olemaan jo enemmänkin käsitteellinen juttu, kuin todelliseen ihonväriin, seksuaalisuuteen tai sukupuoleen perustuva.  Eli siis kaikki ne, jotka ovat vihavasemmistolaisia CSJ-paskateorioita vastaan. Esim. musta, joka on näitä teorioita vastaan, ei oikeasti ole musta.

Kun tätä nyt lukee näin kuusi vuotta myöhemmin, niin pitää todeta, että Osmo(kin) oli aika lailla oikeilla jäljillä. Ja kehitys on mennyt juuri kuten Osmo pelkäsi.

http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2015/06/kasvatustiede-ja-feminismi.html?m=0 (http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2015/06/kasvatustiede-ja-feminismi.html?m=0)

Quote(...)

Feministinen pedagogiikka on:
1) Itseriittoista relativismia


Aloitetaan kirjan takakannesta. Siinä kysytään: "Millaisia tietoon ja valtaan liittyviä seurauksia on sillä, että kaikkien opiskelijoiden ja opettajien oletetaan olevan heteroja, keskiluokkaisia tai valkoisia?" Kysymys ei lupaa hyvää. Määrittelemättömien yleistysten sijaan kannattaisi kysyä, kuka olettaa keneltäkin heteroseksuaalisuutta tai keskiluokkaisuutta. Sitten pitäisi selvittää – mieluiten kokeellisesti – miksi kyseiset tahot sitä tekevät. Ennen kuin on todennettu seikan olemassaolo ja selvitetty sen luonnetta, on tuskin mieltä arvioida seikan aiheuttamia vaikutuksia. Tartuin aiheeseen kaikesta huolimatta uteliaalla ja avoimella mielellä. Takakannen tarkoituskin on lähinnä herättää kiinnostusta. Akateemisen feminismin on myös täytynyt kehittyä sen jälkeen, kun julkaisin Jussi K. Niemelän kanssa naistutkimusta kritisoivan pamflettimme (Niemelä & Tammisalo 2006). Ainakin nimensä ala on vaihtanut sukupuolentutkimukseksi.

   Paljastui kuitenkin, että relativismi on vallitseva opinkappale myös feministisessä pedagogiikassa. Tämä tuotiin ilmi ensimmäisten lauseiden joukossa: "Kuten tieto itsessään, myöskään tavat käsitellä tätä tietoa – eli opettaa ja oppia – eivät ole neutraaleja" (s. 7, korostus lisätty). Optimismini karisi heti alussa. Missään vaiheessa ei perusteltu väitettä, että tieto ei voi olla neutraalia. Sen sijaan tiedon suhteellisuutta, totuusrelativismia ja objektiivisuuden hyljeksimistä mainosteltiin eri muodoissa pitkin kirjaa. Tiedossa ja opettamisessa on teoksen mukaan kyse vain "diskursseista" ja "subjektiuksien rakentamisesta". Tässä jokunen esimerkki:

    Rationaalinen käsitys tiedosta sulkee ulkopuolelleen kokemuksellisen tiedon ja ylläpitää kahtiajakautunutta ajattelua oikeasta faktatiedosta ja vähemmän oikeasta kokemuksellisesta tiedosta (s. 19). Tavoitteena on auttaa opiskelijoita tunnistamaan 'virallisen' tulkinnan rinnalla olevia muita tulkintoja, ja sitä kautta kysymään, keiden diskurssit ovat saaneet totuuden aseman (s. 30–31). ...tarvitaan pedagogiikkaa, joka aktivoi opiskelijat yhteiskunnan ja kulttuurin muuttamiseen ja raivaa tilaa uudenlaisen subjektiuden rakentamiseen... (s. 42). Koska tieto rakentuu sosiaalisesti, ei tietämistä voi erottaa arvoista ja opettamista poliittisuudesta (s. 59). Juuri objektiivisuuden vaatimus voidaan nähdä tiedeyhteisölle ominaisena sukupuolen piilottamisen lajina, kun universaalitietoa on tuotettu miesten laatimilla pelisäännöillä (s. 82). ...feministisessä tutkimusyhteisössä korostetaan erityisesti, että yksittäinen tutkija ei ole oikeassa tai väärässä, vaan 'oikeassa' tai 'väärässä' on yhteisö sikäli kuin ilmaisuja oikeassa tai väärässä oleminen ylipäätään on järkevä käyttää (s. 97).

Mitä näihin voi sanoa? On epäilemättä kokemuksellista tietoa, joka eroaa faktatiedosta. Ja on totta, että miehiä on ollut huomattavasti enemmän laatimassa tieteen pelisääntöjä. Yksilöllisten kokemusten erilaisuus tai ensimmäisten tieteilijöiden sukupuoli eivät kuitenkaan tarkoita, että kaikki näkemykset olisivat tiedollisessa mielessä yhtä päteviä. Yksi tieteen tehtävistä on nimenomaan tehdä ero todisteisiin nojaavan tiedon ja muunlaisen tietämisen välille.

(...) Yleisemmin periaate voisi kuulua: aineiston tuottamiseen ei tule käyttää oletusta, joka pitäisi todistaa saman aineiston perusteella.

   Tieteessä pyritään kaikin tavoin välttämään tiedollista saastumista. Mittalaitteet tai tutkijoiden omaksumat teoriat eivät saa olla saatujen tutkimustulosten tuottajia. Oikea tutkija ei myöskään sitoudu teoriaan, varsinkaan teoriaan, jota ei voida periaatteessakaan kumota. Tutkijan on siis oltava aina valmis muuttamaan näkemystään uusien todisteiden edessä. Tämä ei ole tilanne feministisessä pedagogiikassa, jossa esimerkiksi "katsotaan yleisesti, ettei sukupuolentutkimusta voi opettaa teknisenä tietona esimerkiksi määrittelemällä käsitteitä irrallaan feministisestä tietokäsityksestä" (s. 49). Ala siis myöntää sitoutuneensa jo etukäteen tiettyyn sukupuoli-ideologiaan/-politiikkaan ja feministiseen tietokäsitykseen. Ja jos et ole näitä omaksunut, et luultavasti myöskään ole pätevä arvioimaan alalla esitettyjä väitteitä.

   Näin feministinen pedagogiikka muistuttaa kumoutumatonta psykoanalyyttista torjuntateoriaa. (...) Objektiivisuuden, testattavuuden ja kumoutuvuuden vaatimushan on vain patriarkaatin ylläpitämä aataminaikainen jäänne.

   Feministisen pedagogiikan itseriittoinen ja relativistinen tietokäsitys näkyy myös käytännön opetustavoissa. Muiden alojen luentosarjojen alussa luennoija usein kertoo, millaisten asiakokonaisuuksien hallintaa opiskelijalta vaaditaan. Feministisessä pedagogiikassa ei menetellä näin:

    Erojen pedagogiikassa onkin lähdetty etsimään konkreettisia keinoja, joilla opetustilanteita yliopistoissa voisi järjestää niin, että ne toimisivat otollisina puitteina toisin tietämisen halun heräämiselle. Keskeistä näissä keskusteluissa on ollut, toisilleen ristiriitaisiltakin kuulostavat, käytännöt: turvallisen ilmapiirin luominen ja etäännytetty tieto sekä hämmennyksen ja epävarmuuden hyväksi käyttäminen (s. 30, kursivointi lisätty).


Tämä muistuttaa aivopesua tai uskonlahkon toimintaa. Opettajan tulee toki käyttää mahdollisimman toimivia konsteja, jotta opiskelijan mielenkiinto aihetta kohtaan herää. Mutta keinot ovat sopimattomia yliopistoon, jos opiskelija vain päätyy hämmentyneenä "tietämään toisin" eli hylkäämään tieteelle olennaisen pyrkimyksen objektiivisuuteen tai testattavuuteen. Kumoutumaton teoria on valmis, kun todetaan, että jos et omaksu hämmennystä, olet torjunnan vallassa: "Kielteisiksi määriteltyjä tunteita, kuten hämmennystä, epävarmuutta ja epäonnistumista ei ole helppo 'myydä' opiskelijoille, jotka ovat oppineet pitämään hyvää itsetuntoa keskeisenä menestystekijänä ja odottavat miellyttävää palautetta ja kiitosta" (s. 56). Opiskelijat saattavat kirjan mukaan myös vastustaa opetusta, "koska he haluavat säästää itseään epäoikeudenmukaisuuden näkemiseltä ja pyrkivät samalla säilyttämään ihanteellisen naiivin käsityksen yhteiskunnallisesta tasa-arvosta" (s. 197). Tällaiset yleistykset ja alentava psykologisointi eivät toki (ainakaan vielä) ole kasvatustieteiden valtavirtaa.

Nykyisin ovat...

Quote2) Sanataidetta ja politiikkaa

Kielellisestä lahjattomuudesta alan harjoittajia ei voida moittia. Harmillista vain on, että se on johtanut tieteellistä ajattelua haittaavaan sanataiteiluun. Sinänsä sujuvan poljennon alta paljastuu joukko selviöitä ja epäselvää päättelyä. Tavoite ei ole tieteellinen selittäminen, vaan jonkinlainen selitteleminen. Esimerkkejä:

(...) Feministisessä pedagogiikassa ajatellaan, ettei suhde tiedon ja tietämättömyyden välillä ole vastakohtainen, vaan jonkin tietäminen on mahdollista jonkin toisen pois sulkemisen avulla... 'Normaaliksi' määritellyt samastumiskohteet – valkoinen, hetero, keskiluokkainen länsimaisuus – asettuvat helposti samuudeksi ja jokapäiväiseksi itsestäänselvyydeksi eivätkä tarjoa samastumiskohteita toiseutetuille subjektiuksille... Queer-pedagogiikka haastaa outouttamaan opetuksen normaalistavat käytännöt paranoidisella ja reparatiivisella lukutavalla (s. 60–61). Koska queer ei viittaa olotilaan saati identiteettiin, se verbinä ilmaisee jatkuvaa edestakaisen prosessia omien tietämisen rajojen tunnistamiseksi ja tunnustamiseksi (s. 64). Naiset eivät ole yliopistoissa perinteisesti toimineet rakenteellisen vallan ytimessä ja heidän ristiriitaisen positionsa voidaan nähdä mahdollistavan sääntöjä rikkovan ja vikuroivan mikropoliittisen toimijuuden (s. 82). Kuinka rikkumaton on se subjektipositio, jota opettajana tarjoamme heijastuspintana opiskelijoille? Millaisilla pedagogisilla valinnoilla tulemme mahdollisesti uusintaneeksi normalisoituja ja stereotyyppisen vakaita oletuksia sukupuolten ja seksuaalisuuksien jatkumoista? Kuinka opettajina voisimme toistaa oletettuja jatkumoja toisin, horjuttaen niiden 'luonnollisuutta', tehden näkyväksi niiden haurautta ja kyseenalaistaen niiden varassa myönnettyjä etuoikeuksia? (s. 127) Etsin koko ajan keinoja ja toimintatapoja ymmärtää ja kuvata toiseuttamisen eläviä mekanismeja itsessäni ja kulttuurissamme sekä jakaa oivaltamaani niin, että se lihallistuisi vuorovaikutuksessa (s. 248).

Oma suosikkini on lausunto kirjan lopusta:

    Parhaimmillaan tunteiden jakaminen helpottaa ja auttaa huomaamaan, että oma riittämättömyys ja jopa häpeä omasta tyhmyydestä eivät olekaan yksittäisiä ominaisuuksia, vaan akateemisen ympäristön ruokkimia yleisesti koettuja tunnetiloja. Henkilökohtainen on poliittista (s. 256).


Tarkistakaa itse: asiayhteydessään ajatukset ovat kenties vielä epämääräisempiä ja hullunkurisempia.

(...)

   Oman määritelmänsä mukaan feministinen pedagogiikka on "feministisen tutkimuksen informoimaa opettamiseen ja ohjaamiseen liittyvää ymmärrystä, opettamisen tapoja ja oppimistilanteiden käytäntöjä" (s. 17). Määritelmä vaikuttaa selvältä, mutta se ei ole sitä. Missään ei esimerkiksi kerrota, mitä feministisellä tutkimuksella tarkoitetaan. Feminismejähän tunnetusti on monenlaisia. Määritelmä jatkuu: "Feministisen pedagogiikan keskiössä ovat kysymykset sukupuolesta ja tiedon poliittisuudesta sekä näkemykset koulutuksen sukupuolistavista ja sukupuolittavista käytännöistä". Alalla myös "vaaditaan tunnistamaan sukupuoli ja seksuaalisuus osana tiedon rakennetta ja pedagogista toimintaa" (s. 63). (...)

   Mukana on siis koko ajan neljä ongelmaa: 1) etukäteen sitoutuminen tietynlaiseen politiikkaan ja toimintaan sekä tietynlaisiin tutkimustuloksiin, 2) ajatus, että ei voi olla objektiivista, epärelativistista, sukupuoletonta tai epäpoliittista tietoa (tai ainakaan niihin ei kannata tai tarvitse pyrkiä), 3) viholliskuva, että jossakin on määrittelemättömiä tahoja, jotka jollakin määrittelemättömällä tavalla jostakin epämääräisestä syystä konstruoivat sukupuolia ja heteroseksuaaleja ja 4) epätarkat ja lennokkaat termit ja käsitteet sekä yleinen epäempiirisyys; alalla ei esitetä havaintojen avulla kumottavissa tai todennettavissa olevia seikkoja. Ylimääräinen ongelma on se, että feministisellä pedagogiikalla ei ole yhteyksiä psykologiaan tai biologiaan, vaikka ne ovat esittäneet perusteltuja vastauksia vaikkapa siihen, miksi naiset ja miehet hakeutuvat eri aloille ja eri tehtäviin. (Yleisemmällä tasolla sukupuolentutkijoiden soisi tuntevan teorioita siitä, miksi ylipäätään on sukupuolia.)

   Osa alan harjoittajista tuntuu näkevän itsensä harvinaisina sankarittarina, jotka uskaltavat vastustaa ja kyseenalaistaa länsimaisen tieteen "yleistäviä käsityksiä" (s. 62). He eivät ota huomioon, että kaikenlainen kyseenalaistaminen on ollut olennainen osa tiedettä alusta alkaen, jo määritelmällisesti. Kriittisyys on osa tiedettä ja tieteenfilosofiaa, eikä ole eikä voi olla erikseen feminististä tieteenfilosofiaa. Miten kiihkeästi tutkija uskookaan teorioihinsa, ne eivät tiedeyhteisön silmissä ole minkään arvoisia ennen kuin teoriat ovat läpäisseet kaikki mahdolliset testit, ei vain feministisiä testejä. Vastaväite voisi kuulua: kuka määrää, mitkä testit ovat oikeita? Valtavirtatiedehän ei ole kelvannut akateemiselle feminismille. Miksi teorioiden ei tarvitsisi läpäistä feministisiä testejä? Syy on yksinkertainen: kyseisen opinkappaleen mukaan testien läpäisy, siis objektiivisuus, testattavuus ja falsifioitavuus eivät ole tärkeitä. Tämänkaltaiset kaksoisstandardit, jossa omalle teorialle annetaan etuajo-oikeus, ovat tyypillistä politiikassa ja uskonnossa. Tieteeseen ne eivät kuulu.

3) Löysiä tutkimus- ja opetusmenetelmiä

Käytännön tutkimuksen tasolla feministisen pedagogiikan ongelma on käytettyjen menetelmien lepsuus. Eräs kirjoittaja esimerkiksi kuvaa "feminististä toimijuutta" koskevaa autoetnografista tutkimustaan, jossa "päähuomion saavat kokemukseni feministisen yliopistopedagogiikan kehittäjänä ja osallistuvana oppija-opettajana" (s. 90). Sama dosentti päättelee kokemuksistaan: "Tutkijan oma sitoutuminen on tärkeää ja ulkopuolisen havainnoijan (tai mestaroijan) sijaan tutkija on kanssatodistaja ja yhdessä tunnistaja" (s. 91). Tuonkaltainen tunnustuksellinen tutkimus ei liene valtavirtaa edes teologisessa tiedekunnassa. [1]

Verratkaapa näitä menetelmiä äskettäin esiteltyyn "rasismi-tutkimukseen":
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131771.msg3289802.html#msg3289802 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131771.msg3289802.html#msg3289802)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131771.msg3290402/topicseen.html#msg3290402 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131771.msg3290402/topicseen.html#msg3290402)

   Koulutuspolitiikan lisäksi feministiset pedagogit ottavat kantaa talouspolitiikkaan. Pyrkimys on jälleen hyvä, mutta keinot kehnoja: "Niinpä esimerkiksi uusliberalistisen talouspolitiikan palveleminen on normalisoitunut itsestäänselvyydeksi, ja sen kyseenalaistaminen ja muuttaminen edellyttäisivät tiedon neutraaliuden myytin murtamista" (s. 59, korostus lisätty). Väite on tolkuton. Kaikenlaista talouspolitiikkaa – marxilaista tai uusliberalistista – voidaan kyseenalaistaa ja muuttaa, vaikka käsitys tiedosta olisi mikä tahansa. Tai oikeastaan väite ei edes ole väärin. Tulisi tarkentaa, kenen pitää uskoa, että tieto ei voi olla neutraalia, jotta talousteorioita voidaan kyseenalaistaa. Minäkään en kannata "uusliberalististen" talousarvojen soveltamista yliopistomaailmaan, mutta jos vaihtoehto on feministinen pedagogiikka ja sukupuolentutkimus, kannatan mieluummin markkinavetoisia ja tulosperusteisia malleja. Tämä on paljon sanottu kaltaiseltani sivistysyliopiston kannattajalta.

   Eroja ja vaarallisia suhteita -kirjassa kerrotaan myös eräästä kurssista, jonka läpäisyyn vaadittiin lopputentin sijasta oppimispäiväkirjan pitämistä. "Näissä puolentoista liuskan kirjallisissa tehtävissä opiskelijat sekä saavat että joutuvat vielä kerran palaamaan opetettuihin asioihin niitä omien oppimiskokemustensa ja -intressiensä kautta reflektoiden" (s. 128). Opettajan lainaamat otteet luentopäiväkirjoista ovat kiinnostavia. Mieleen tulee lähinnä lapsi, joka sanoo, mitä aikuiset haluavat kuulla. (...)

   Sama opettaja kirjoittaa: "Toisinaan oppimistehtävään ryhtyminen saattaa tuoda myös yllättäviä oivalluksia, jotka osoittavat, että paranoidisuus ei sekään välttämättä ole aina tuulesta temmattua" (s. 129, korostus lisätty). Kyse oli siitä, että luennoija "oli pyytänyt oppilaitaan etsimään mediasta lesbo-aiheisen uutisen ja pohtimaan sitä, millaiseksi asiaksi lesbous siinä määrittyy". Opiskelijan oppimispäiväkirjassa sanottiin: "Joko valitsin mediani täysin väärin tai sitten oikeasti mediassa ei esiinny seksuaalisiin suuntauksiin liittyvää uutisointia kovinkaan paljon". Luennoijan mielestä tämä opiskelijan havaitsema homouutisten vähäisyys on siis pätevä syy vainoharhaisuuteen. Ja itse asiassa jos olet hetero, samalla taidat opettajan mukaan automaattisesti normalisoida heteroutta: "En tunne tekstejä, joissa hetero-opettajat olisivat pohtineet kriittisesti oman sukupuoli-ilmaisunsa tai heteroseksuaalisuutensa normalisoivaa merkitystä osana pedagogiikkaansa" (s. 124, korostus lisätty).

   Joku voisi kertoa, missä heteronormatiiviset salaliitot piileksivät niin voisimme yhdessä käydä puhumassa heille järkeä. Ja mitä tulee homouutisoinnin määrään, se lienee ainakin ajoittain paljon yleisempää kuin erilaisten suuntautumisten määrä tai homoseksuaalien prosenttiosuus antaisivat ymmärtää. (Tässä ei tietysti ole mitään pahaa; vähemmistöjen tasa-arvoinen kohtelu saattaa lisääntyä heistä kertovien uutisten myötä.)
(...)

Feministisen pedagogiikan asema akatemiassa

(...)

   Lukija saattaa ihmetellä, miksi olen laatinut näin myrkyllisen kirjoituksen näin marginaalisesta ilmiöstä. Pääsyy on se, että kannan huolta tulevista tutkijapolvista sekä tieteen, opetuksen ja tutkimuksen tasosta. Poliittiset ideologiat kun eivät aina ymmärrä pysytellä tiedekentän laitamilla. Ja kuten Eroja ja vaarallisia suhteita -kirjakin kertoo, feministinen yliopistopedagogiikka on jo "saanut opetusministeriön (nyk. OKM) ja yliopistojen rahoitusta, ja se on hyväksytty omaksi kokonaisuudekseen useiden yliopistojen opetusohjelmissa" (s. 92). Tiettyihin tutkimustuloksiin jo etukäteen sitoutunut ala on siis nauttinut yhteiskunnan tukea, vieläpä runsaalla kädellä: "...feministinen tutkimus ei esimerkiksi saadun tutkimusrahoituksen perusteella ole tätä nykyä erityisen marginaalista" (s. 99).

   Lisäsyy tekstiini on se, että politisoitunut ala hakee aktiivisesti tieteen auktoriteettia: "Feministisestä näkökulmasta pedagogista toimintaa voisi myös kutsua tilan valtaamiseksi tai 'omaksi huoneeksi', mutta samalla hävitettäisiin se puoli toiminnasta, jolla haetaan koulutuksen yleistä hyväksyvyyttä ja noteerausta" (s. 92). Ja pisteenä i:n päälle löysät menetelmät ovat paikoin jo muuttuneet osaksi opintovaatimuksia (s. 115). Siksi vetoan tieteen ystäviin: tulkaa kaapista, pelastetaan kasvatustiede epätieteellisen relativismin ja sanamanipulaation houkutuksilta.

   Akateemisen feminismin käsitys tiedosta ja todellisuudesta eroaa jo niin paljon luonnontieteiden ja itse asiassa kaikille tieteille yhteisen tieto-opin näkemyksistä, että puheyhteys tuntuu mahdottomalta. Luonnostelen siksi tähän loppuun jonkinlaista teesien sarjaa, joka sopisi keskustelun pohjaksi. Vähitellen mielipiteenvaihdon tulee ulottua täsmällisempiin ja yksityiskohtaisempiin tosiasiaväitteisiin. Vain siten voidaan edistää tiedettä ja paljastaa saloja ihmisenä olemisesta.

(...)

Valitettavasti sekä biologian että tieteellisen metodin vähättely voi erilaisten sosiaalisten prosessien kautta jatkua vielä pitkään. Näin käy ainakin, jos kukaan ei taistele paremman tieteen puolesta.

(...)

Jätin tuosta ne keskustelun pohjat pois, kun ei tuolla poppoolla ole mitään tarkoitusta alkaa keskustelemaan vihakulttinsa "tieteellisyydestä" ja perusteista. Kun siinä on vaara, että ne perusteet oikeasti tulisivat julki. Muutenkin, kuten James Lindsay on kirjoittanut, ja kuten tässäkin kirjoituksessa tuotiin tavallaan esiin, nuo wokeistit näkevät "normaalit ihmiset" valkoisen patriarkaatin valheiden sokaisemina pseudotodellisuuden olentoina, joiden kanssa oikean tiedon omaksuneet eivät kerta kaikkiaan voi keskustella. Tämä kun vaatisi sen, että oikean tiedon omaksujien pitäisi asettaa itsensä alttiiksi valheellisen tietokäsityksen vääristyksille.

Pistetään loppuun vielä pätkä jo aiemmin linkkaamastani Osmon kirjoituksesta vuodelta 2019, nimeltään "Akateeminen feminismi ja etenkin feministinen pedagogiikka on pettänyt tieteen ja tasa-arvon. Yliopistossa toimii puoluetoimisto tiedekunnan statuksella."

Quote    S. 138: Feministinen pedagogiikka on sekä feministisen liikkeen että akateemisen feministisen tutkimuksen yhteistä tonttia.


Tulkitsen lausunnon myöntävän, että feministinen pedagogia on poliittista. Siksi on erikoista, että feministisen pedagogiikan kurssien opetuksesta vastaavat yliopistomme (Helsinki, Lappi, Tampere, Jyväskylä ja Turku). Miten tämä on mahdollista? Yliopistolaki toteaa, että "yliopistojen tulee järjestää toimintansa hyvää tieteellistä käytäntöä noudattaen". Hyvästä tieteellisestä käytännöstä ei luonnollisesti vallitse täyttä yksimielisyyttä, mutta jokunen yleisperiaate on silti ilmeinen; esimerkiksi se, että tieteen on oltava riippumatonta ulkopuolisista tekijöistä, jotka saattavat vääristää tutkimustuloksia. Toteutuuko tämä feministisessä tutkimuksessa tai feministisessä pedagogiikassa?

    s. 139: Aktivismin ja akatemian välit ovat monella tapaa yhteen kietoutuneet. Yliopistoissa sukupuolentutkimusta opiskelevat ovat usein feministisen liikkeen tai politiikan aktivisteja.


Opiskelijan ei tarvitse olla poliittisesti sitoutumaton, mutta tieteen tulee sitä olla. Tieteenalan sitoutuminen poliittiseen aatteeseen tarkoittaa tutkimustulosten tai niistä raportoinnin määräytymistä jo etukäteen. Jos sukupuolentutkimuksessa siis on jotakin tieteellistä, se on se osa, joka jää jäljelle, kun toiminnasta poistetaan feminismi.

http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2019/01/opas-feministiseen-propagandaan.html (http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2019/01/opas-feministiseen-propagandaan.html)

Jälleen, ei kannata tarrautua tuohon feminismi sanaan. Nykyisin käytännössä kaikki rasismia, sukupuolta, identiteettiä, ... , kuten myös maahanmuuttoa ja etenevissä määrin ilmastonmuutosta käsittelevät suomalaiset tutkimukset, ainakin sellaiset joita hallitus käyttää perusteluinaan ja mitkä nostetaan julkisuudessa esiin, pohjautuvat yllä esitettyihin feministisen pedagogiikan / CSJ-liikkeen "tietotodellisuuksiin". Ja sen tunkeminen ns. koville aloille on jo alkanut.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 26.03.2021, 11:38:36
Näinhän se on. Ettei vaan leimautuisi "oikeistolaiseksi" (tai rasistiksi, natsiksi, naisvihaajaksi, homovihaajaksi, transvihaajaksi, äärikansalliseksi, siirtomaaherraksi, ilmastonmuutoksen kieltäjäksi, jne. jne.)

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QuoteIs there a non-Woke left anymore? Yes. Can we go back to it? No, not really. Wokeness evolved to exploit left-liberalism, so left-liberalism has no defenses to Wokeness. It literally has none. It doesn't create Wokeness; it just can't do anything to stop it. Not a single thing.

The liberal left isn't dead. It's castrated.
    — James Lindsay, Donald Trump of intellectuals (@ConceptualJames) March 26, 2021

Super-natsit!

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QuoteThe Woke are technically not Nazis. This is a frequent and forgiveable mistake. The Nazis were National Socialists. The Woke are Supranational Socialists, which makes them Super-Nazis.
    — James Lindsay, Donald Trump of intellectuals (@ConceptualJames) March 26, 2021

Ja tällaista ne super-natsit tekee.

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QuoteCity of Oakland Mayor is branded racist for giving families of color $500 a month if they earn under $59,000 with no rules on how they spend it - but offering poor white families nothing

QuoteThe program, funded by wealthy private donors, explicitly excludes poor white families

An estimated 10,000 of Oakland's 435,000 population are white residents who live in poverty, defined by earning less than $12,880

QuoteA program to give $500 monthly checks to low-income families of color in Oakland, California, has been criticized for explicitly excluding the 10,000 white residents living in poverty in the city.

QuoteThe DailyMail.com contacted the City of Oakland director of communications and Oakland's citywide communications director to ask how the eligibility rules had been decided.

Neither had responded by Wednesday afternoon.

Oakland's homeless population rose by nearly 50 per cent between 2017 and 2019.

According to the Department of Health and Human Services, any individual earning less than $12,880 is in poverty.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9399137/Oakland-California-exclude-white-families-living-poverty-500-month-checks.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9399137/Oakland-California-exclude-white-families-living-poverty-500-month-checks.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus)


Edit. Nuo Lindsayn ensimmäiset twiitit luultavasti liittyivät Rod Dreherin kirjaan Live not by Lies – A Manual for Christian Dissidents (2020), kun oli samoihin aikoihin laittanut twiitin myös tuosta. Tuosta kirjasta Osmo Tammisalo sattumoisin kirjoitti juuri jutun. Tähän vain pätkä alusta.

http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2021/03/woke-kristinusko-ja-neuvostoterrori.html (http://ihmisluonto.blogspot.com/2021/03/woke-kristinusko-ja-neuvostoterrori.html)

QuoteTämä kirja varoittaa kahdesta asiasta: ylivalppaasta woke-aktivismista ja siitä murskaavasta voimasta, jonka teknologia kyttäyskoneistoille antaa. Teoksen nykyaikaisesta teemasta huolimatta pääosassa ovat 1900-luvun loppupuolen neuvostoterroria vastustaneet ja kansalaisvapauksia ajaneet, lähinnä kristinuskoon nojanneet toisinajattelijat. Näiltä Itä-blokin dissidenteiltä haetaan opastusta, miten harjoittaa vastarintaa ylivoimaisen vastustajan edessä.

Dreher kirjoittaa johdannossa:

    Amerikkalaisille, jotka eivät koskaan ole joutuneet elämään tällaisessa ideologisessa sumussa, on vaikea tunnistaa, mitä on tapahtumassa. Mitä tahansa tämä onkin, se ei ole tarkka kopio elämästä Neuvostoblokin maissa salaisine poliiseineen, rangaistussiirtoloineen, ankarine sensuurivaatimuksineen ja materiaalisine puutteineen. Juuri tämä on ongelma, nämä emigrantit varoittavat. Se tosiseikka, että suhteessa Neuvostoblokin oloihin elämä lännessä on edelleen vapaata ja vaurasta, tekee amerikkalaiset sokeaksi vapauttamme uhkaavien voimien kasvamiselle. Samoin kuin se seikka, että ne, jotka vapauksiamme vievät, puhuvat toiminnastaan sorrettujen uhrien vapauttamisena.

Myöhemmin Dreher jatkaa:

    Harva nykykonservatiivi ymmärtää tämän uhkan vakavuuden, ohittaen sen vain "poliittisena korrektiutena" – aiemman sukupolven väheksyvä termi "wokenessille". On helppo väheksyä entisen neuvostoprofessorin kaltaisia ihmisiä hysteerisinä, jos pidät nykytapahtumia vain 1990-luvun kampusten vasemmistosekoilun uusintana. Tuolloin konservatiivien vakiovastaus oli vähättelevä: Odota, että penskat siirtyvät todelliseen maailmaan ja ovat pakotettuja etsimään töitä.

       No, he siirtyivät – ja ottivat kampuksen mukaansa yritysmaailmaan, laki- ja lääketieteen ammatteihin, mediaan, peruskouluun, lukioihin ja muhin Amerikan instituutioihin. Tässä kulttuurivallankumouksessa, joka voimistui keväällä ja kesällä 2020, he yrittävät muuttaa koko maan "woke" kampukseksi.



Viesti toisin sanoen kuuluu: Se voi tapahtua täälläkin. Dreher ja hänen haastateltavansa näkevät yhtäläisyyksiä Venäjän tapahtumissa ennen vallankumousta ja heikentyvän Yhdysvaltojen nykymenossa. Muutos nykylännessä ei tietenkään tapahdu samalla tavoin kuin aikoinaan Venäjällä tai sodanjälkeisessä Itä-Euroopassa, ovathan ajat muuttuneet. Mutta edelleen kyse on totalitarismin houkutuksesta, tällä kertaa kasvot vain ovat – ainakin toistaiseksi – hieman lempeämmät. Perään Dreher toteaa, että klassinen liberalismi on kuolemassa muuallakin kuin Yhdysvalloissa – ja että sen seuraaja ei ole vielä syntynyt.

Dreher luettelee totalitarismin nousuun liittyviä seikkoja: yksilön eristäytyminen, yksinäisyyden lisääntyminen, instituutioiden arvovallan romahtaminen, halu tuhota yhteiskunnallisia rakenteita, propagandan lisääntyminen, ihmisten halu uskoa hyödyllisiä valheita ja uskollisuuden arvostaminen asiantuntijuutta korkeammalle. Resurssien rajallisuus, joka koskee myös totalitaristisia järjestelmiä, tarkoittaa, että systeemiä on pidettävä kasassa mahdollisimman pienellä vaivalla. Neuvostototalitarismissa tämä käytännössä tarkoitti, että jo pelkkä syytös yksilön tekemästä rikoksesta – yleensä ajatusrikoksesta – muuttuu osoitukseksi rikokseen syyllistymisestä. Nykyaika ei tässä suhteessa ole kovin erilainen: vaikka vihjailu tai syytös olisi esitetty kuinka huolettomasti ja huolimattomasti tahansa, syytöksellä on taipumus tarttua yksilöön ja haitata hänen elämäänsä – jopa perhe-elämää, ulottuuhan ihmisten rankaisuhalu joskus lähisukulaisiin asti.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.03.2021, 01:14:42
Selvää lienee, mitä porukkaa tämä twiittiketju koskee.

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Quote1/ One of most important things I've learned:

Severe personality problems find *camouflage.* No one thinks "I'm a sadist" or "I'm a malignant narcissist."

They find a belief system/social group that validates their most hateful, destructive impulses & construes them as virtues.

2/ The most toxic and hateful people in the world are 100% convinced they fight for what is true and right.

3/ They find a way to give free rein to their cruelty, to attack, to treat others cruelly and viciously. *And they find allies to cheer them on* who also believe they are on the side of all that is true and good.

4/ For colleagues looking for more theoretical explanation, the psychological processes are splitting, projection &  projective identification. Splitting means not recognizing one's own capacity for hate, cruelty, and destructiveness. The person is blind to the bad in themselves.

5/ Instead, they project the badness onto some designated other. And this other person, via the defense of projection, is now seen as the repository of all that is bad and evil and necessary to destroy. That's the projection.

The person now feels fully justified in unleashing

6/ their viciousness and hate on the other person, who is now seen (via projection) as someone monstrous who must be destroyed at all cost. If the person who is projected on attempts to protect or defend themselves, this is now seen as further confirmation of how hateful and evil

7/ they are (this is what is called is "projective identification.") The end result is that the person can deny their own sadism, cruelty, and hate—while simultaneously acting it out without restraint. And feel themselves to be 100% on the side of truth and right as they do it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JonathanShedler/status/1370212738388041728 (https://mobile.twitter.com/JonathanShedler/status/1370212738388041728)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.03.2021, 22:08:17
Alkaako wokeistien lemppari postmodernisti viimeinkin saamaan ansaitsemaansa mainetta ja kunniaa? Tuo pedofiiliraiskaaja kehitteli juuri siis näitä tietoon ja valtaan liittyviä sekopäisyyksiä, joihin nykyinen wokeismi pohjautuu (uusmarxismin ohella).

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-philosopher-michel-foucault-abused-boys-in-tunisia-6t5sj7jvw (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/french-philosopher-michel-foucault-abused-boys-in-tunisia-6t5sj7jvw)

QuoteFrench philosopher Michel Foucault 'abused boys in Tunisia'

Michel Foucault was one of the first celebrity intellectuals of the 20th century remembered not only for his controversial analyses of prisons, madness and sexuality but for signing a petition in 1977 to legalise sex with children aged 13

The philosopher Michel Foucault, a beacon of today's "woke" ideology, has become the latest prominent French figure to face a retrospective reckoning for sexually abusing children.

A fellow intellectual, Guy Sorman, has unleashed a storm among Parisian "intellos" with his claim that Foucault, who died in 1984 aged 57, was a paedophile rapist who had sex with Arab children while living in Tunisia in the late 1960s.

Sorman, 77, said he had visited Foucault with a group of friends on an Easter holiday trip to the village of Sidi Bou Said, near Tunis, where the philosopher was living in 1969. "Young children were running after Foucault saying 'what about me? take me, take me'," he recalled last week in an interview with The Sunday Times (...)(...)

(maksumuuri)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 29.03.2021, 14:43:23
Quote from: zupi on 28.03.2021, 22:08:17
Alkaako wokeistien lemppari postmodernisti viimeinkin saamaan ansaitsemaansa mainetta ja kunniaa? Tuo pedofiiliraiskaaja kehitteli juuri siis näitä tietoon ja valtaan liittyviä sekopäisyyksiä, joihin nykyinen wokeismi pohjautuu (uusmarxismin ohella).

Tämä Michel Foucault oli oman aikansa tunnetuin filosofi ja vasemmiston supertähti. Muistan lukeneeni jostain, että Foucault olisi ollut merkittävä tekijä siinä muutoksessa, jossa vasemmisto siirtyi talousvasemmistolaisuudesta kulttuurivasemmistolaisuuteen. Ainakin E. Michael Jones on puhunut tästä. Jones kertoo vuonna 1975 solmitusta ns. Death Valley-sopimuksesta, jossa Foucault teki sopimuksen "oligarkkien" kanssa siitä, että vasemmisto lopettaa taloudellisen kritiikin esittämisen, ja tästä vastineeksi Foucaultista tehtäisiin julkkis ja vasemmiston supertähti. Foucaultin johtama uusi vasemmisto edistäisi seksuaalista vapautumista, identiteettipoliitiikkaa ja homojen oikeuksia.

Pedofilia oli uutta tietoa, mutta herran wiki-sivu kertoo varsin kattavasti miehen taustoista:
QuoteMichel Foucault 15 October 1926 – 25 June 1984) was a French philosopher, historian of ideas, writer, political activist, and literary critic.

Foucault's theories primarily address the relationship between power and knowledge, and how they are used as a form of social control through societal institutions. Though often cited as a structuralist and postmodernist, Foucault rejected these labels. His thought has influenced academics, especially those working in communication studies, anthropology, psychology, sociology, criminology, cultural studies, literary theory, feminism, Marxism and critical theory.

Prone to self-harm, in 1948 Foucault allegedly attempted suicide; his father sent him to see the psychiatrist Jean Delay at the Sainte-Anne Hospital Center. Obsessed with the idea of self-mutilation and suicide, Foucault attempted the latter several times in ensuing years, praising suicide in later writings. The ENS's doctor examined Foucault's state of mind, suggesting that his suicidal tendencies emerged from the distress surrounding his homosexuality, because same-sex sexual activity was socially taboo in France. At the time, Foucault engaged in homosexual activity with men whom he encountered in the underground Parisian gay scene, also indulging in drug use; according to biographer James Miller, he enjoyed the thrill and sense of danger that these activities offered him.

Embracing the Parisian avant-garde, Foucault entered into a romantic relationship with the serialist composer Jean Barraqué. Together, they tried to produce their greatest work, heavily used recreational drugs and engaged in sado-masochistic sexual activity.

Like France and Sweden, Poland legally tolerated but socially frowned on homosexual activity, and Foucault undertook relationships with a number of men; one was with a Polish security agent who hoped to trap Foucault in an embarrassing situation, which therefore would reflect badly on the French embassy. Wracked in diplomatic scandal, he was ordered to leave Poland for a new destination. Various positions were available in West Germany, and so Foucault relocated to the Institut français Hamburg (where he served as director in 1958–60), teaching the same courses he had given in Uppsala and Warsaw. Spending much time in the Reeperbahn red light district, he entered into a relationship with a transvestite.

In 1977, Italian newspaper Corriere della sera asked Foucault to write a column for them. In doing so, in 1978 he travelled to Tehran in Iran, days after the Black Friday massacre. Documenting the developing Iranian Revolution, he met with opposition leaders such as Mohammad Kazem Shariatmadari and Mehdi Bazargan, and discovered the popular support for Islamism. Returning to France, he was one of the journalists who visited the Ayatollah Khomeini, before visiting Tehran. His articles expressed awe of Khomeini's Islamist movement, for which he was widely criticised in the French press, including by Iranian expatriates. Foucault's response was that Islamism was to become a major political force in the region, and that the West must treat it with respect rather than hostility.

In October 1980, Foucault became a visiting professor at the University of California, Berkeley, giving the Howison Lectures on "Truth and Subjectivity", while in November he lectured at the Humanities Institute at New York University. His growing popularity in American intellectual circles was noted by Time magazine, while Foucault went on to lecture at UCLA in 1981, the University of Vermont in 1982, and Berkeley again in 1983, where his lectures drew huge crowds. Foucault spent many evenings in the San Francisco gay scene, frequenting sado-masochistic bathhouses, engaging in unprotected sex. He praised sado-masochistic activity in interviews with the gay press, describing it as "the real creation of new possibilities of pleasure, which people had no idea about previously." Foucault contracted HIV and eventually developed AIDS. Little was known of the virus at the time; the first cases had only been identified in 1980. Foucault initially referred to AIDS as a "dreamed-up disease". In summer 1983, he developed a persistent dry cough, which concerned friends in Paris, but Foucault insisted it was just a pulmonary infection.

On 26 June 1984, Libération announced Foucault's death, mentioning the rumour that it had been brought on by AIDS. Soon after his death, Foucault's partner Daniel Defert founded the first national HIV/AIDS organisation in France, AIDES.

Foucault was a vocal proponent of consensual adult-child underage sex and pedophilia, considering them signs of liberation of both actors; he argued young children could give consent. In 1977, along with Jean-Paul Sartre, Jacques Derrida, and other intellectuals, Foucault signed a petition to the French parliament calling for the decriminalization of all "consensual" sexual relations between adults and minors below the age of fifteen, the age of consent in France. He'd also written an open letter in the Le Monde in defense of three convicted pedophiles. Foucault has been described by the Windsor Star as a "pedophile guru".

In France-Amérique, Guy Sorman claimed that while staying in Tunisia, Foucault had practiced pedophilia by "paying for little boys". In a further interview, he claimed Foucault would have sex with children in a graveyard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Foucault
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.03.2021, 16:27:14
^ Lisää lainauksia Timesin jutusta.

https://www.ruetir.com/2021/03/29/writer-says-philosopher-michel-foucault-abused-children-in-tunisia/ (https://www.ruetir.com/2021/03/29/writer-says-philosopher-michel-foucault-abused-children-in-tunisia/)

Quote"They were eight, nine, ten years old, I threw money at them and said: 'See you at 10 at night at the usual place.' This, it seemed, was the local cemetery: "There I made love on the tombstones with the boys. The question of consent has not even been raised."

Sorman said that "Foucault would not have dared to do that in France," comparing him to Paul Gauguin, the impressionist who had sex with girls who painted in Tahiti, and Andre Gide, the novelist who persecuted boys in Africa. "There is a colonial dimension to this. White imperialism."

Sorman said he regretted not reporting Foucault to the police at the time or to the press, calling his behavior "ignoble" and "extremely morally ugly."

(...)

Sorman's remarks surprised experts in Britain, where Foucault's latest volume on the history of sexuality in four parts has just been published for the first time in English. For Sorman, Foucault's behavior was symptomatic of a distinctive French malaise dating back to Voltaire. "He believed that there were two moral principles, one for the elite, which was immoral, and one for the people, which should be restrictive."

He continued: "France is not yet a democracy, we had the revolution, we proclaimed a republic, but there is still an aristocracy, it is the intelligentsia, and it has had a special status. Anything will do. "Now, however," the world is suddenly changing, "Sorman added.

The intellectual said, however, that Foucault should not be "canceled."  (...)

Paskapuhetta, rovioon tuli ja cancelointi käyntiin ja heti! Kuuluisa, eliittiin kuuluva valkoinen siirtomaaherra käy kehitysmaissa käyttämässä sikäläisiä, rutiköyhiä värillisiä lapsia törkeästi hyväkseen, koska hän näkee heidät selvästi alempiarvoisiksi! Jos tuo ei ansaitse täydellistä cancelointia, niin mikä sitten? Vai mitä sanoo wokeistit, ai ei vai...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 30.03.2021, 13:34:03
Pätkä Christopher Rufon haastattelusta viime viikolta, aiheena tässä CRT. Ei nyt varsinaisesti mitään uutta, mutta kokonaisuudessaan ihan hyvää settiä.

Haastattelijan kysymykset / kommentit kursivoituna.

https://niccolo.substack.com/p/the-dushanbe-interviews-christopher (https://niccolo.substack.com/p/the-dushanbe-interviews-christopher)

Quote(...)(...)

You first landed on my radar when you began releasing documents handed to you by various whistleblowers detailing Critical Race Theory and how it was being instituted in both government and schools.  This led to Trump's Executive Order banning the instruction of CRT in US Government offices.  How much of an influence do you think your work had on this decision?


It was instantaneous. I did the opening monologue on Tucker Carlson sharing my research and then directly asking the President to issue an executive order banning critical race theory from the Federal Government. At seven o'clock the next morning, I got a call from Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, who said the President saw the segment and wanted to take action. I provided my research to the White House and the Executive Order came out less than three weeks later. That's really to the Trump Administration's credit. Jeb Bush wouldn't have had the stones to take on this issue; Trump got it done in a few weeks.

Others have laid out different strategies in fighting CRT.  Some have suggested confronting Corporate HR Trainers either overtly or subtly so that fellow employees would 'see through' its illogic and inherent awfulness.  Why are these approaches either useless or even counterproductive?

You can't persuade zealots with logic, facts, and clever argumentation; they only understand the language of power. That's why the campaign to prove that you're "the real liberal" or "more antiracist than the antiracists" is doomed to failure. Like it or not, Critical Race Theory is the driving force of the modern intellectual Left; they're not going back to the philosophy of FDR, LBJ, or MLK. And they scrupulously follow the old dictum of "no enemies to the left"—they will dispatch the centrist liberals with even more vitriol and brutality than they dispatch the conservatives. This is also the core dilemma of the IDW crowd: many of them cannot imagine aligning with political conservatives; they operate under the delusion that they can "recapture the centre" and convince the planet of the virtue of Enlightenment values. That's not how politics works. We live in a polarized political system—one winner, one loser. You'll remember that the Girondins went to the guillotine. If, metaphorically speaking, the centrist liberals want to avoid the same fate, they will have to make an alliance with Trump-loving, truck-driving, gun-toting Middle Americans. That's reality. We'll see if they heed it.

For the novices out there, what is Critical Race Theory, and why is it so dangerous?

I'm lazy, so I'll paraphrase from a recent paper. Critical Race Theory is an academic discipline that holds that the United States is a nation founded on white supremacy and oppression, and that these forces are still at the root of our society. Critical Race Theorists believe that American institutions (such as the Constitution and legal system), preach freedom and equality, but are mere "camouflages" for naked racial domination. They believe that racism is a constant, universal condition: it simply becomes more subtle, sophisticated, and insidious over the course of history. In simple terms, critical race theory reformulates the old Marxist dichotomy of oppressor and oppressed, replacing the class categories of bourgeoisie and proletariat with the identity categories of White and Black. But the basic conclusions are the same: in order to liberate man, society must be fundamentally transformed through moral, economic, and political revolution.

One of the main faces of CRT right now is academic Ibram X. Kendi.  He famously stated:

Quote from: rotuhuijari"And so what I'm trying to do with my work is to really get Americans to eliminate the concept of "not racist" from their vocabulary, and realize we're either being racist or anti-racist". 

This is rather sinister, as it places everything within the prism of race, and leaves nothing outside of it, while rejecting all subtlety and nuance that is par for the course when it comes to human beings.  To him, 'racism' is America's Original Sin.  This very much comes across as Christianity stripped of Christ, but with the same zeal and intensity of the Early Christians (and some of those that followed centuries later), with 'Wokeness' as the new Catechism.

Ibram X. Kendi is a human fortune cookie. His intellectual output is an endless buffet of word salad and phony wisdom: "Denial is the heartbeat of racism"; "In order to truly be anti-racist, you also have to truly be anti-capitalist"; "Whiteness is literally posing an existential threat to humanity." In my investigative reporting, I've noticed something quite interesting: the core demographic of Kendi readers is liberal, white, middle-aged women who work in public institutions. On one hand, this is a surprise: Kendi embraces a radical vision of Black Power-style revolution. On the other hand, it makes perfect sense: Kendi's politics provides a vicarious thrill, but is completely in line with conventional wisdom. It's revolution without risk; it's liberation without leaving the house. That's really the best way to understand what he's doing. He's not a revolutionary; he's a self-help guru for white liberals and a reputation-laundering mechanism for multinational corporations. He is an apostle of anti-whiteness, but a mouthpiece for elite white opinion. He preaches anti-capitalism, but accepts Visa, Mastercard, and American Express.

His book "How To Be An Antiracist" has been receiving the predictable effusive praise and is also now on the official US Navy Reading List. His ambitions are grand, and in my opinion, megalomaniacal.  He is actively pushing the concept of an "...anti-racist amendment to the US Constitution..." that would create a committee with oversight over the entire US Government, as it would sit in judgment as to whether policies or laws are racist or not (and those deemed racist would have to be eliminated as they would be unconstitutional), and would monitor politicians and public servants to see if they are engaged in the various forms of racism that Kendi has outlined in his book.

This is the question: what do the Critical Race Theorists mean by "equity"? I just published a paper for The Heritage Foundation that lays out the evidence. As it turns out, Critical Race Theory is not about racial sensitivity training or nondiscrimination policies—it's simply reheated, 1960s-style Marxism. The Critical Race Theorists can be coy sometimes, but it's pretty simple to explain what they want. UCLA law professor Cheryl Harris has argued that private property rights should be suspended, the government should seize land and wealth from the rich, and then redistribute it along racial lines—she wants to move away from a system of individual rights and "mere nondiscrimination," towards a system of group identity-based rights and positive discrimination. As you mention, Ibram X. Kendi has argued for the creation of an unaccountable fourth branch of government with the power to abolish any law in the country and censor the speech of politicians and intellectuals who are not deemed "antiracist." Pretty quickly, we're talking about eliminating the rights to private property, freedom of speech, equal protection under the law, and the separation of powers. That's not an agenda for reforming the United States—it's an agenda for ending the United States. They're not advertising it in those terms; but they're not exactly hiding it, either.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 30.03.2021, 23:04:51
Ihan mielenkiintoinen twiitti-ketju siitä, miten woke-väki tarkoituksellisesti paskoo kaiken olemassaolevan (paikallisen länsimaisen) kulttuurin, tässä tapauksessa erilaisten juhlapäivien päälle. Ihan hyvä lyhyt katsaus myös wokeismin kehittymiseen. Alla lainauksina, varsinaisessa ketjussa on mukana jonkin verran kuvia / videoita.

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Quote1/ Ever wonder why the "woke" try to hijack major holidays? They'll say:

-Father's day is about trans men
-Mothers day is about trans women
-Thanksgiving is about colonialism
-Holiday conversation starters should be about pronouns

Let's talk about holiday hijacking

A thread

2/ While it may seem like they're just being petty, there actually is a reason they do this, and it has to do with how they think about culture.

Their view of culture drives many of their tactics, including holiday hijacking, so understanding that is VERY important.


Let's begin

3/ The first idea we need to understand is "cultural hegemony."

Cultural hegemony is control of the culture via social institutions. The group that's ascendant in the culture (and whose ideas, beliefs, views and values dominate culture and institutions) has "cultural hegemony"

4/ The concept was developed by the Marxist Antonio Gramsci. He thought those who make and control culture determine which beliefs and ideas are spread through society. So the worldview and ideology of the culturally dominant people becomes the dominant worldview in society.

5/ The idea is that you can seize a factory, but unless that power is backed up by a culture that says what you are doing is good, beautiful, and just then any political gains are will be short-lived. In order to take and *KEEP* power long-term you need to have *cultural power*

6/ The idea of cultural hegemony was picked up by Critical Social justice and mixed in with a view of culture that is heavily influenced by postmodernism. Once I explain the postmodern influence, we can then show exactly how it all fits together...

7/ There is a little history we need to touch on here if we want to get it right.
In 1967 Guy Debord argued in "The Society of the spectacle" that consumer capitalism took every authentic human experience, commodified it, and sold it back to us through advertising and mass media.

8/ He thought *all* social relations are mediated by images created and sold to us by mass media. A collective brainwashing that has taken over everything from Christmas (create the perfect Christmas moment, like on T.V.) to dating (create the perfect date, like in the movies)...

9/ Guy Deboard's student Jean Baudrillard took it a step further. Baudrillard said it isn't just that mass media brainwashes you, it's that the ideas, symbols, signifiers, of culture form an inescapable mental matrix that influences **ALL** of your thinking.

Sound familiar?

10/ For Baudrillard, we are drowning in a sea of signs, symbols, memes, ideas, and information. People are caught up in the play of images, spectacles, and symbols that are becoming disconnected to any external reality.

The only access to reality we have is filtered via culture.

11/ This means the ideas, symbols, signifiers, and ideology of "the system" hold so much sway you can't help but interpret the world through the lens the system gives you. You've literally lost contact with what is actually real and you only see through the lens of the system...

12/ Baudrillard, alongside Jacques Derrida and Michael Foucault formed the backbone of postmodern philosophy, and their philosophies all imply reality is not objectively knowable:

Baudrillard thought society replaced reality via symbols and signs: A human simulation of reality.

13/ Foucault thought power and knowledge were hopelessly intertwined and because of how they're connected getting at objective truth, free from bias, was impossible.

Derrida's philosophy implies that objectively correct final interpretations of anything are simply not possible.

14/ When Critical Social Justice (wokeness) picked up postmodernism (and the postmodern emphasis on culture and language) they shifted away from physical material reality/circumstances and focused more on culture. This fit perfectly with Gramsci's ideas about cultural hegemony...

15/ Postmodernism turned activists toward the culture and provided the tools to do a far more potent analysis of cultural hegemony.

The result was a commitment to taking the culture and building a new hegemony; the goal was to completely own every area of *cultural production*

16/ So now that we understand all that, lets analyze holiday hijacking.

The woke want to take over every area of culture so they can establish their own cultural hegemony, and since holidays are cultural events and cultural celebrations, the woke want to take them over....

17/ You see, when we celebrate Mother's day we celebrate it on *OUR* terms. That means we celebrate Mothers for what we know them to be: biologically Female parents.

Since the woke think people can change genders, and change sex they can't allow that....

18/ Because they want total cultural hegemony, they want to take the holiday over and make it a woke holiday. This means removing the old idea about mothers as female parents who give birth (or adopt) and replacing it with the idea that "mother" is just a social construct...

19/ Which includes trans women and nonbinary and intersex and every other new gender identity you can think of. The way they do this is to insufferably make trans-women the focus of Mother's day and to find ways to performatively make that point throughout the day.

20/ The woke think they need to "center" trans-women on mothers day (and trans men on fathers day, and atheism on Christmas and colonialism on thanksgiving) to drive home the point that the holiday is going to be deconstructed and remade in the image of woke ideology...

21/ Letting us celebrate in peace is not an option. They need to "disrupt" and "interrupt" our celebration of Mother's day so they can establish their view as the dominant view.

It would be like someone showing up at your birthday party and trying to make it about themselves...

22/ Because holidays are part of the culture they need to be taken over, just like every other think in our society that has any cultural value or cultural cache.

That is why they do this:

23/ So the next time someone does this you should treat what they are doing like exactly what it is: a power move which is meant to help them establish total cultural dominance. This means you should completely dismiss it, and do so firmly, not gently.

24/ Don't let them sucker you into letting them win for the sake of peace. Push back, and tell them no.

/fin

Muistuipa tuota lukiessani mieleen "NATO"n raportista tällainen pätkä:

Quote17 May: @vihreat and @MariaOhisalo Vihreät muuttuu päivä päivältä kuvottavampaan suuntaan. Suomalaisuuden päivänä hehkutitti islamia ja Kaatuneiden muistopäivänä homoja sekä transuja. Aivan kertakaikkisen vastenmielinen puolue

Tämä siis lienee "vihapuhetta", koska siinä osoitetaan inhoa ja halveksuntaa wokeistien yritykselle paskoa suomalaisten juhlapäivien päälle. "Kansalaispaneelin" vihapuhe-ehdotuksetkin taitaa olla aika pitkälti suunnattu siihen, että niiden avulla pyritään estämään wokeistien tuhoamisprojektin vastustaminen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 01.04.2021, 21:26:02
Juuri nyt on verkkomedia perussuomalaiset julkaisseet haastattelun, jossa Maria Asunta haastattelee Mikko Pauniota.

https://youtu.be/FbbrRuhCz7A

Aiheena kriittinen rotuteoria, Ja sen pakkovalta. Paunio sanoi että ei enää hetkeen oo saanut demarien puoluelehteen juttujansa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.04.2021, 11:33:14
Tässä on jätetty varmaan yksinkertaisuuden vuoksi postmodernistiset mausteet pois, mutta muuten ihan hyvä lyhyt "tilannekatsaus" aiheeseen.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 07.04.2021, 00:58:48
Pistetään tähän väliin yksi Helen Pluckrosen kirjoitus. Helen kuuluu niihin jotka uskoo, toisin kuin James Lindsay, että vasemmisto voi vielä itse parantaa itsensä. Jameksella ja Helenillä on tainnut viime aikoina mennä vähän sukset ristiin sen suhteen, mikä on paras tapa vaikuttaa asioihin.

https://areomagazine.com/2017/03/27/how-french-intellectuals-ruined-the-west-postmodernism-and-its-impact-explained/ (https://areomagazine.com/2017/03/27/how-french-intellectuals-ruined-the-west-postmodernism-and-its-impact-explained/)

QuoteHow French "Intellectuals" Ruined the West: Postmodernism & Its Impact, Explained

Postmodernism presents a threat not only to liberal democracy but to modernity itself. That may sound like a bold or even hyperbolic claim, but the reality is that the cluster of ideas and values at the root of postmodernism have broken the bounds of academia and gained great cultural power in western society. The irrational and identitarian "symptoms" of postmodernism are easily recognizable and much criticized, but the ethos underlying them is not well understood. This is partly because postmodernists rarely explain themselves clearly and partly because of the inherent contradictions and inconsistencies of a way of thought which denies a stable reality or reliable knowledge to exist. However, there are consistent ideas at the root of postmodernism and understanding them is essential if we intend to counter them. They underlie the problems we see today in Social Justice Activism, undermine the credibility of the Left and threaten to return us to an irrational and tribal "pre-modern" culture.

Postmodernism, most simply, is an artistic and philosophical movement which began in France in the 1960s and produced bewildering art and even more bewildering  "theory." It drew on avant-garde and surrealist art and earlier philosophical ideas, particularly those of Nietzsche and Heidegger, for its anti-realism and rejection of the concept of the unified and coherent individual. It reacted against the liberal humanism of the modernist artistic and intellectual movements, which its proponents saw as naïvely universalizing a western, middle-class and male experience.

It rejected philosophy which valued ethics, reason and clarity with the same accusation. Structuralism, a movement which (often over-confidently) attempted to analyze human culture and psychology according to consistent structures of relationships, came under attack. Marxism, with its understanding of society through class and economic structures was regarded as equally rigid and simplistic. Above all, postmodernists attacked science and its goal of attaining objective knowledge about a reality which exists independently of human perceptions which they saw as merely another form of constructed ideology dominated by bourgeois, western assumptions. Decidedly left-wing, postmodernism had both a nihilistic and a revolutionary ethos which resonated with a post-war, post-empire zeitgeist in the West. As postmodernism continued to develop and diversify, its initially stronger nihilistic deconstructive phase became secondary (but still fundamental) to its revolutionary "identity politics" phase.

It has been a matter of contention whether postmodernism is a reaction against modernity. The modern era is the period of history which saw Renaissance Humanism, the Enlightenment, the Scientific Revolution and the development of liberal values and human rights; the period when Western societies gradually came to value reason and science over faith and superstition as routes to knowledge, and developed a concept of the person as an individual member of the human race deserving of rights and freedoms rather than as part of various collectives subject to rigid hierarchical roles in society.

(...) If we see the essence of modernity as the development of science and reason as well as humanism and universal liberalism, postmodernists are opposed to it. If we see modernity as the tearing down of structures of power including feudalism, the Church, patriarchy, and Empire, postmodernists are attempting to continue it, but their targets are now science, reason, humanism and liberalism. Consequently, the roots of postmodernism are inherently political and revolutionary, albeit in a destructive or, as they would term it, deconstructive way.

(...)

JEAN-FRANÇOIS LYOTARD

Michel Foucault's (PEDOFIILIRAISKAAJA) work is also centered on language and relativism although he applied this to history and culture. He called this approach "archeology" because he saw himself as "uncovering" aspects of historical culture through recorded discourses (speech which promotes or assumes a particular view). For Foucault, discourses control what can be "known" and in different periods and places, different systems of institutional power control discourses. Therefore, knowledge is a direct product of power. "In any given culture and at any given moment, there is always only one 'episteme' that defines the conditions of possibility of all knowledge, whether expressed in theory or silently invested in a practice."[1]

Furthermore, people themselves were culturally constructed. (...)

We see in Foucault the most extreme expression of cultural relativism (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/why-world-cultural-relativism-descendents/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/11/why-world-cultural-relativism-descendents/)) read through structures of power in which shared humanity and individuality are almost entirely absent. Instead, people are constructed by their position in relation to dominant cultural ideas either as oppressors or oppressed. (...)

(...)

We see in Derrida further relativism, both cultural and epistemic, and further justification for identity politics. There is an explicit denial that differences can be other than oppositional and therefore a rejection of Enlightenment liberalism's values of overcoming differences and focusing on universal human rights and individual freedom and empowerment. We see here the basis of "ironic misandry" and the mantra "reverse racism isn't real" and the idea that identity dictates what can be understood. We see too a rejection of the need for clarity in speech and argument and to understand the other's point of view and avoid misnterpretation. The intention of the speaker is irrelevant. What matters is the impact of speech. This, along with Foucauldian ideas, underlies the current belief in the deeply damaging nature of "microaggressions" and misuse of terminology related to gender, race or sexuality.


JACQUES DERRIDA

Lyotard, Foucault, and Derrida are just three of the "founding fathers" of postmodernism but their ideas share common themes with other influential "theorists" and were taken up by later postmodernists who applied them to an increasingly diverse range of disciplines within the social sciences and humanities. We've seen that this includes an intense sensitivity to language on the level of the word and a feeling that what the speaker means is less important than how it is received, no matter how radical the interpretation (terveisiä Tomi Salinille). Shared humanity and individuality are essentially illusions and people are propagators or victims of discourses depending on their social position; a position which is dependent on identity far more than their individual engagement with society. Morality is culturally relative, as is reality itself. Empirical evidence is suspect and so are any culturally dominant ideas including science, reason, and universal liberalism. These are Enlightenment values which are naïve, totalizing and oppressive, and there is a moral necessity to smash them. Far more important is the lived experience, narratives and beliefs of "marginalized" groups all of which are equally "true" but must now be privileged over Enlightenment values to reverse an oppressive, unjust and entirely arbitrary social construction of reality, morality and knowledge.

(...) Freedom of speech is under threat because speech is now dangerous. So dangerous that people considering themselves liberal can now justify responding to it with violence. The need to argue a case persuasively using reasoned argument is now often replaced with references to identity and pure rage.

Despite all the evidence that racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia and xenophobia are at an all-time low in Western societies, Leftist academics and SocJus activists display a fatalistic pessimism, enabled by postmodern interpretative "reading" practices which valorize confirmation bias. The authoritarian power of the postmodern academics and activists seems to be invisible to them whilst being apparent to everyone else. As Andrew Sullivan says of intersectionality:

"It posits a classic orthodoxy through which all of human experience is explained — and through which all speech must be filtered. ... Like the Puritanism once familiar in New England, intersectionality controls language and the very terms of discourse." [7]


Postmodernism has become a Lyotardian metanarrative, a Foucauldian system of discursive power (tämä liittyy varmaan jotenkin lasten raiskaamiseen), and a Derridean oppressive hierarchy.

(...)

Physicists Alan Sokal and Jean Bricmont address the same problem from the perspective of science in Fashionable Nonsense: Postmodern Intellectuals' Abuse of Science:

"Who could now seriously deny the 'grand narrative' of evolution, except someone in the grip of a far less plausible master narrative such as Creationism? And who would wish to deny the truth of basic physics? The answer was, 'some postmodernists.'"

and

"There is something very odd indeed in the belief that in looking, say, for causal laws or a unified theory, or in asking whether atoms really do obey the laws of quantum mechanics, the activities of scientists are somehow inherently 'bourgeois' or 'Eurocentric' or 'masculinist', or even 'militarist.'"

(...)

The social sciences and humanities, however, are in danger of changing out of all recognition. Some disciplines within the social sciences already have. Cultural anthropology, sociology, cultural studies and gender studies, for example, have succumbed almost entirely not only to moral relativism but epistemic relativism. English (literature) too, in my experience, is teaching a thoroughly postmodern orthodoxy. Philosophy, as we have seen, is divided. So is history.

(...)

The dangers of postmodernism are not limited to pockets of society which center around academia and Social Justice, however. Relativist ideas, sensitivity to language and focus on identity over humanity or individuality have gained dominance in wider society. It is much easier to say what you feel than rigorously examine the evidence. The freedom to "interpret" reality according to one's own values feeds into the very human tendency towards confirmation bias and motivated reasoning.

(...)

(oikeistoa koskevat herja-jutut jätetty pois. joka tapauksessa:)

This "set of concepts" threaten to take us back to a time before the Enlightenment, when "reason" was regarded as not only inferior to faith but as a sin.


(...)

Normi-Hemmo voisi ehkä noista todeta, että VMP. Suunta on vaan sellainen, että pelkkä toteaminen ei välttämättä enää kauaa riitä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.04.2021, 00:01:25
Pienenä pohjustuksena lainaus BLM / Pyhä Yrjö ketjusta.

Quote from: Waldseemüller on 08.04.2021, 09:39:27
^ Tuleva piikki lento-onnettomuuksissa on sitten rasismin ja naisvihan syytä, tämä näin ennakkovaroituksena.

Näillä wokeisteilla tuntuu todellakin olevan se näkemys, että KAIKKI pahat asiat on miehisen valkoisen ylivallan syytä. Ja tämä pitää alla olevan kirjoituksen mukaisesti sisällään myös sen, kun mustat (wokeistien yllyttäminä ja raivoon ruoskimina) hakkaavat aasialaisia. Jälleen pitää todeta James Lindsayn sanoin, että nuo woke-ihmiset eivät ole "normaaleita", eikä heitä tai heidän höpötyksiään pitäisi kohdella kuten normaalien ihmisten näkemyksiä. Itsekin näen tuon poppoon pseudotodellisuudessa elävinä kulttihulluina.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-supremacy-root-race-related-120244625.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-supremacy-root-race-related-120244625.html)

QuoteWhite supremacy is the root of all race-related violence in the US

Amid the disturbing rise in attacks on Asian Americans since March 2020 is a troubling category of these assaults: Black people are also attacking Asian Americans.

White people are the main perpetrators of anti-Asian racism. (...)

Paskaa. Jos tarkastellaan aasialaisiin kohdistuneita väkivaltarikoksia, niin mustat tekevät niitä enemmän kuin mikään muu rotu (liitekuva). Siis vaikka valkoisia on USAssa yli viisinkertaisesti mustiin nähden. Jotain käsitystä asiasta antaa sekin, että valkoisiin kohdistuneesta väkivallasta 2.2 % on aasialaisten suorittamaa, ja aasialaisiin kohdistuneesta väkivallasta 24.1 % on valkoisten suorittamaa. Iso ero, mutta entäpä mustat? Mustiin kohdistuneesta väkivallasta alle 0.1 % on aasialaisten suorittamaa, mutta aasialaisiin kohdistuneesta väkivallasta 27.5 % on mustien suorittamaa. Mutta Jennifer kuitenkin näkee, että valkoiset on tässä se pääroisto... 2019 tilastossa aasialaiset oli muuten jostain kummasta syystä heitetty "muut" kategoriaan, ja näin varmaan on jatkossakin...

(https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf (https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf))

QuoteAs the current president of the Association for Asian American Studies and as an ethnic studies and critical race studies professor who specializes in Asian American culture, I wanted to address the climate of anti-Asian racism I was seeing at the start of the pandemic. (...)

The point I've made through all of those experiences is that anti-Asian racism has the same source as anti-Black racism: white supremacy. So when a Black person attacks an Asian person, the encounter is fueled perhaps by racism, but very specifically by white supremacy. White supremacy does not require a white person to perpetuate it.

Varsin mielenkiintoista, että Jenniferin mukaan aasialaisiin kohdistuvalla rasismilla ja mustiin kohdistuvalla rasismilla on täysin samat juuret, eli valkoinen ylivalta. Tämän nyt pitäisi ymmärtääkseni tarkoittaa, että valkoinen ylivalta sortaa aasialaisiakin sillä tavoin, että he eivät voi pärjätä yhteiskunnassa yhtä hyvin kuin valkoiset. Mitenköhän sitten aasialaistaustaiset ansaitsevat USAssa keskimäärin selvästi enemmän kuin valkoiset?

https://quillette.com/2020/12/22/a-peculiar-kind-of-racist-patriarchy/ (https://quillette.com/2020/12/22/a-peculiar-kind-of-racist-patriarchy/)
data.census.gov (https://data.census.gov/cedsci/table?t=-A0%20-%20All%20available%20ancestries%3A002%20-%20White%20alone%3A003%20-%20White%20alone%20or%20in%20combination%20with%20one%20or%20more%20other%20races%3A013%20-%20Asian%20Indian%20alone%20%28400-401%29%3A014%20-%20Bangladeshi%20alone%20%28402%29%3A015%20-%20Cambodian%20alone%20%28405-409%29%3A016%20-%20Chinese%20alone%20%28410-419%29%3A017%20-%20Chinese%20%28except%20Taiwanese%29%20alone%20%28410-411%29%3A018%20-%20Taiwanese%20alone%20%28412-419%29%3A019%20-%20Filipino%20alone%20%28420-421%29%3A020%20-%20Hmong%20alone%20%28422%29%3A021%20-%20Indonesian%20alone%20%28423-429%29%3A022%20-%20Japanese%20alone%20%28430-439%29%3A023%20-%20Korean%20alone%20%28440-441%29%3A024%20-%20Laotian%20alone%20%28442%29%3A026%20-%20Pakistani%20alone%20%28445%29%3A028%20-%20Thai%20alone%20%28447-449%29%3A029%20-%20Vietnamese%20alone%20%28450-459%29%3A073%20-%20Burmese%20alone%20%28404%29%3A076%20-%20Nepalese%20alone%20%28472%29%3A504%20-%20Arab%20%28All%20groups%20%5B400-415,417-418,421-430,435-481,490-499%5D%29%3A506%20-%20Egyptian%20%28402-403%29%3A507%20-%20Iraqi%20%28417-418%29%3A508%20-%20Jordanian%20%28421-422%29%3A509%20-%20Lebanese%20%28425-426%29%3A510%20-%20Moroccan%20%28406-407%29%3A511%20-%20Palestinian%20%28465-467%29%3A512%20-%20Syrian%20%28429-430%29%3A519%20-%20Brazilian%20%28360-364%29%3A520%20-%20British%20%28011-014%29%3A537%20-%20Guyanese%20%28370-374%29%3A540%20-%20Iranian%20%28416%29%3A542%20-%20Israeli%20%28419-420%29%3A554%20-%20Russian%20%28148-151%29%3A566%20-%20Ghanaian%20%28529%29%3A571%20-%20Turkish%20%28434%29%3A582%20-%20Jamaican%20%28308-309%29%3A584%20-%20West%20Indian%20%28335%29%3AIncome%20and%20Poverty%3APopulations%20and%20People%3ARace%20and%20Ethnicity&tid=ACSSPP1Y2019.S0201&moe=false&tp=false&hidePreview=true)

QuoteA Peculiar Kind of Racist Patriarchy

We are frequently told by commentators and theorists on the progressive and liberal Left that we live in a systemically racist and patriarchal society. The belief that Western societies privilege white men and oppress people of color, women, and LGBT citizens is especially popular within academic institutions, legacy media, the entertainment industry, and even sports. However, newly released statistics from the US Department of Labor for the third quarter of 2020 undermine this narrative. Asian women have now surpassed white men in weekly earnings. That trend has been consistent throughout this past year—an unprecedented outcome. Full-time working Asian women earned $1,224 in median weekly earnings in the third quarter of this year compared to $1,122 earned by their white male counterparts. Furthermore, the income gap between both black and Latino men and Asian women is wider than it has ever been. The income gap between white and black women, meanwhile, is much narrower than the gap between their male counterparts.

These outcomes cannot exist in a society suffused with misogyny and racism. As confounding to conventional progressive wisdom as these new figures appear to be, copious research finds that ethnic minorities and women frequently eclipse their white and male counterparts, even when these identities intersect. Several ethnic minority groups consistently out-perform whites in a variety of categories—higher test scores, lower incarceration rates, and longer life expectancies. According to the latest data from the US Census Bureau, over the 12 months covered by the survey, the median household incomes of Syrian Americans ($74,047), Korean Americans ($76,674), Indonesian Americans ($93,501), Taiwanese Americans ($102,405), and Filipino Americans ($100,273) are all significantly higher than that of whites ($69,823).

(...)

A study from the University of Michigan compared the earnings trajectories of African immigrant women and men to their US-born counterparts. The (very left-leaning) researchers went into the study with an intersectional analytic framework, stating: "The double disadvantage would predict that black African women would be disadvantaged by the interaction of their race and gender." But having analyzed the data, the authors concluded: "However, these are not the patterns that we found." While African-born black men had lower earnings than US-born white men, African-born black women had higher earnings than US-born white women. Interestingly, the researchers found that the income growth rate of female African immigrants has outpaced that of both US-born men and women. Black female immigrants from Africa saw a 130 percent rise in their income between 1990 and 2010, eclipsing the earnings of both white and black American women. No variance of the oversimplified "institutionalized racism" or intersectionality framework can adequately explain these complex socioeconomic outcomes, even when the researchers are biased in that direction.

Intersectionality is such a misconceived lens through which to understand the world that often white men fare worse than some of the most "oppressed" victim groups in our society.
For example, the latest Census data indicate that the median earnings for full-time, year-round female Palestinian American workers ($52,061), female Iranian American workers ($64,220), and female Turkish American workers ($67,759) were all higher than those of white women ($45,581). Turkish and Iranian women also out-earned white men ($57,003). The vast majority of these women have not two but three "oppression variables" because of their gender, ethnicity, and religion (Islam).

(...)

Liitekuvissa myös noita lukuja. Mustat ansaitsee, kuten kaikki tietänee, sitten keskimäärin selvästi valkoisia vähemmän, mutta Jenniferin mukaan aasialaisiin ja mustiin kohdistuu kuitenkin ihan samanlaista rasismia. Mitenköhän tuo lienee mahdollista? No, tuon rasismi-narratiivin uskominen vaatii tietenkin sen pseudotodellisuuden ja varsin korkean hulluuden asteen. Noita lukuja ei muuten kannata nyt mitenkään liittää Suomen tilanteeseen. Sillä porukalla, mikä pyrkii USAan lienee kuitenkin täysin erilaiset asenteet ja tavoitteet kuin sillä, mikä pyrkii Suomeen (tosin esim. Somali-, Irakilais- ja Afgaani-taustaiset eivät "menestyneet" tuossakaan tilastossa kovin hyvin...).  Mutta ehkäpä ihmemies McBiden kykenee muuttamaan tuonkin. No, takaisin tuohon Jenniferin tilitykseen.

QuoteIt's not just white people

White supremacy is an ideology, a pattern of values and beliefs that are ingrained in nearly every system and institution in the U.S. It is a belief that to be white is to be human and invested with inalienable universal rights and that to be not-white means you are less than human – a disposable object for others to abuse and misuse.

The dehumanization of Asian people by U.S. society is driven by white supremacy and not by any Black person who may or may not hate Asians.

(...)

Stories of individual harassment and violence perpetrated against Asian Americans by white assailants don't always get the same attention as the viral videos of Black aggression toward Asians.

Unfuckingbelievable...  :facepalm:

QuoteBut underlying all these incidents is white supremacy, just as white supremacy is responsible for Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck for over eight minutes: White supremacy made Floyd into a Black male threat rather than a human being.

Tony Timpa?? Ja tietenkin kaikki muut aseettomat valkoiset, jotka poliisi on tappanut? Ja eipä se Chauvinin polvi tainnut edes painaa Pyhän Yrjön niskaa. Valheita valheiden perään.

QuoteUnderstanding the depth and reach of this ideology of racism can be challenging, but doing so brings each person, and the nation as a whole, closer to addressing systemic inequity. It's not Black people whom Asian Americans need to fear. It's white supremacy.

This article is republished from The Conversation, a nonprofit news site dedicated to sharing ideas from academic experts. It was written by: Jennifer Ho, University of Colorado Boulder.

Sanoisinpa mieluummin, että wokeporukan hulluuden ja heidän vallan syvyyden ymmärtäminen voi olla haastavaa. Kuten myös sen vaaran suuruuden ymmärtäminen, minkä nuo mielisairaat aiheuttavat länsimaiselle, demokratiaan pohjautuvalle, valistuneelle ja yksilönvapauksia kunnioittavalle yhteiskunnalle.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.04.2021, 22:45:42
Lyhyenä pohjustuksena:

Quote from: zupi on 23.03.2021, 01:02:24

https://journal.fi/kasvatusjaaika/article/view/84816/47404 (https://journal.fi/kasvatusjaaika/article/view/84816/47404)

QuoteMiksi meidän kaikkien pitäisi olla feministisiä pedagogeja

QuoteTietokirjoituksissa käydään läpi feministisen pedagogiikan taustaa: teoreettisen perustan
nähdään nivoutuvan Paulo Freiren ajatteluun ja sosiaalista oikeudenmukaisuutta tavoittelevaan
kriittiseen pedagogiikkaan
. (...)

Quote from: zupi on 24.03.2021, 14:26:28

Pistetään loppuun vielä pätkä jo aiemmin linkkaamastani Osmon kirjoituksesta vuodelta 2019, nimeltään "Akateeminen feminismi ja etenkin feministinen pedagogiikka on pettänyt tieteen ja tasa-arvon. Yliopistossa toimii puoluetoimisto tiedekunnan statuksella."

Quote    S. 138: Feministinen pedagogiikka on sekä feministisen liikkeen että akateemisen feministisen tutkimuksen yhteistä tonttia.

Tulkitsen lausunnon myöntävän, että feministinen pedagogia on poliittista. Siksi on erikoista, että feministisen pedagogiikan kurssien opetuksesta vastaavat yliopistomme (Helsinki, Lappi, Tampere, Jyväskylä ja Turku). Miten tämä on mahdollista? Yliopistolaki toteaa, että "yliopistojen tulee järjestää toimintansa hyvää tieteellistä käytäntöä noudattaen". Hyvästä tieteellisestä käytännöstä ei luonnollisesti vallitse täyttä yksimielisyyttä, mutta jokunen yleisperiaate on silti ilmeinen; esimerkiksi se, että tieteen on oltava riippumatonta ulkopuolisista tekijöistä, jotka saattavat vääristää tutkimustuloksia. Toteutuuko tämä feministisessä tutkimuksessa tai feministisessä pedagogiikassa?

Noissa vastauksissa siis käsiteltiin feminististä pedagogiikkaa, joka on käytännössä lähes sama asia kuin kriittinen pedagogiikka, joillakin painotuseroilla. Wokal Distancen twitter tililtä löytyi hyvä ketju asiaan liittyen. Tässä nyt vain lainauksina, ketjussa on mukana paljon havainnollistavia kuvia.

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Quote1/ Woke teachers are ruining education. This elementary teacher, who doesn't know when America was founded, says she teaches her students about leftist protesting and activism but refuses to teach the actual curriculum. a thread about how we got here:

2/ Here's another elementary school teacher saying she sees teaching as a political act and that social justice (AKA: wokeness) is the foundation of ALL learning

3/ Why do teachers like her think this? It's because professors of education in the universities and colleges of education (where teachers are trained) think what goes on in the classroom is all about politics, and have been claiming that teaching is a political act:

4/ In "The Critical Turn in Education"  Isaac gottesman, explains how leftist brought marxism into universities and radicalized the field of education in the 70's (pic 1) and then brought in Postmodern feminist ideas and critical race theory in the 80's and 90's. (pic 2)

5/ Teachers who should be teaching kids to read, write, and count, are being told to teach children Marxism, Postmodern feminism, and Critical Race Theory.

which is why teaching resources constantly talk about diversity, race, and whiteness...even for teaching MATH

6/ This all started with Paulo Freire, a Brazilian Marxist who said the purpose of education is to teach people how they are being oppressed using Marxist political theory. Having politically awareness inline with Marxist theory was what he called "critical consciousness."

7/ When Freire first wrote in the 60's and 70's his work was ignored, but in the early 80's radical scholars began to use it and Henry Giroux brought Freire's work into mainstream education colleges, particularly Freire's theory of pedagogy (method and practice of teaching)...

8/ Giroux Took Freire's ideas and in his 1985 wrote a book which he dedicated to Freire and in which he said that the central theme underlying his book was that pedagogy (teaching methods) ought to become more political. Giroux was set to politicize the classroom...

9/ But in doing so Giroux added something to the mix. When Giroux started out he was a neo-Marxist who thought the Marxist theory of teaching (that all teachers should teach according to Marxist ideology) was correct. So he says in his book "teachers as Intellectuals:

10/ Eventually Giroux makes his big move and brings postmodernism into the mix. Postmodernism said science and reason weren't objectively true, and the idea that science gives us knowledge is a thinly veiled power move meant to give power to white, western ways of thinking.

11/ Now, just in case you think that these guys are just a coupe of fringe lunatics, let me show you this: One way to measure academic influence is with citations (the number of times your work gets mentioned by other academics). The more citations, the greater the influence.

12/ So, lets compare Giroux and Freire to other famous Scholars for context
Jordan Peterson has 13,381
Isaac Newton has 27,143
Albert Einstein has 131,459
Richard Dawkins has 88,079
Charles Darwin Has 184,507

Meanwhile Paulo Freire has....𝟜𝟙𝟙,𝟡𝟠𝟘

13/ You are reading that correctly: The Marxist who said the primary goal of teaching is to bring radical left wing politics into elementary school classrooms has more citations then Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin COMBINED. Don't worry it gets worse.

14/ Once it became acceptable to bring radical politics into the classroom professors who brought wanted to bring radical politics into classrooms began to get hired all over the place.
Rochelle Gutierrez' entire career is built on bringing radical identity politics into...MATH:

15/ Not only is Rochelle Gutierrez bringing radical politics into math class, she (like Henry Giroux) doesn't think Math is objective. That means she isn't even trying to get to absolute truth and she thinks the idea that math can solve problems is a fallacy.

See for yourself:

16/ And that is how you get the creation of a college textbook that has as it's goal teaching Social justice (AKA, wokeness) during Math class.

Don't worry, it gets even worse then that

17/ Christopher Dubbs wrote a paper where he suggests, and I'm not kidding, teaching grade 5 kids to challenge the structure of marriage by appealing to race, gender, and sexuality. He also thinks "queering" math (making math queer) can provide kids with an alternative reality.

18/ That's the environment our elementary school teachers are being trained in. This is why we have teachers who won't teach the proper curriculum, instead substituting their own curriculum and teach children to be left wing activists rather then the date of America's founding

19/ Want to fight back?

Go to school board meetings, that's where policy and curriculum choices get made.
Vote/run in school board elections so you can make those choices.
ORGANIZE the other parents to help you, so there's strength in numbers

it's hard work, and it takes time

20/ Politics in the classroom is nonsense. Time to put a stop to it.

/fin

Ihan v...n uskomatonta, että tuo paska on päässyt Suomessakin leviämään näin laajalle. Nuo kulttiajatukset toistuvat kerta toisensa jälkeen niin vihavasemmistolaisten poliitikkojen, "tutkijoiden", kuin myös valtamedian toimittelijoiden kommenteissa ja kirjoituksissa. Ja kaikki perustuu PELKKÄÄN PASKAAN. Kuten Osmo Tammisalo tuossa kirjoitti: "Miten tämä on mahdollista? Yliopistolaki toteaa, että "yliopistojen tulee järjestää toimintansa hyvää tieteellistä käytäntöä noudattaen". Hyvästä tieteellisestä käytännöstä ei luonnollisesti vallitse täyttä yksimielisyyttä, mutta jokunen yleisperiaate on silti ilmeinen; esimerkiksi se, että tieteen on oltava riippumatonta ulkopuolisista tekijöistä, jotka saattavat vääristää tutkimustuloksia. Toteutuuko tämä feministisessä tutkimuksessa tai feministisessä pedagogiikassa?"

Jokaikinen järkevä henkilö ymmärtää, että ei helvetissä toteudu. Miten tuo woke-porukka sitten voi kuitenkin yliopistoissa edelleen aivopestä porukkaa mukaan tuohon hullukulttiin? No, yksi syy on tietenkin se, että Suomessa ei ole mitään tahoa, joka valvoisi sitä, että yliopistot noudattavat lakia opetuksessaan. OKV ja EOA on tässä(kin) suhteessa ihan täysiä pellevirastoja, jotka eivät sekaannu asiaan, koska kyse on "tieteestä". Olisikohan tilanne samanlainen, jos yliopistoissa kaikki opetus järjestettäisiin Mein Kampfissa esitettyjen ajatusten pohjalta? Ihan yhtä sairaasta ja vahingollisesta ideologiasta on kuitenkin kyse.

Vinkkinä muuten, että tuolta sivulta löytyy useita hyviä ketjuja CSJ-liikkeeseen liittyen:

https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1304008265135611904 (https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1304008265135611904)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.04.2021, 00:16:09
Taas yksi vähän vanhempi New Discoursin (29.9.) kirjoitus.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/09/great-silencing-america-hallmarks-woke-totalitarianism/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/09/great-silencing-america-hallmarks-woke-totalitarianism/)

QuoteThe Great Silencing of America and the Hallmarks of Woke Totalitarianism

Introduction

When Francis Fukuyama wrote his seminal article, "The End of History" in 1989, in which he stated that liberal democracy would be the world's final form of governance, he was proclaiming the end of the era of competing alternative ideologies, even the end of ideology itself. Other forms of rule, especially those totalitarian forms of the left and right, had been discredited by becoming the losers of history itself, leaving liberal democracy to stand alone as the default, uncontested form. He could not have anticipated (...)

In the years following the publication of Fukuyama's article, as globalization took hold and liberal democracy transmorphed into neoliberal oligarchy (...) Thus was the way paved for the return of contending ideologies of all forms, not merely in the world but in our own country. The fall of the ideology of freedom, at the core of liberal democracy, allowed for an interpretation of American history in which representative government had failed to survive its own regressive decay and devolution into a semi-liberal, semi-authoritarian oligarchy. This, in turn, paved the way for avowedly illiberal, even more regressive ideologies antithetical to freedom, and explicitly embracing unfreedom, to rebound with great force, even in the United States.

(...) Liberal democratic America saw both communists and fascists, and many cult-like enterprises large and small, but never did any of them become so powerful as to so completely strangle the public discourse, or to so credibly demand absolute obedience to its core tenets from the entire mass populace, with such totality, as the ideology today known as Wokeness.

We argue that Wokeness is a totalitarian ideology and movement analogous to old-style Communism and Fascism, totalizing mid-century cults such as Scientology, and the present-day totalitarian Islamism of ISIS. If we are to preclude the rise of this new totalitarian form of governance in our country as the successor to the failed neoliberal oligarchical state we have now, it is necessary that we act resolutely while it is still possible to divert it from taking up the central position in our long-term individual and collective futures.

(...) While healthy, functioning democracies will automatically repel and reject them outright as preposterous and immediately relegate them to the fringes of the political discourse, in those spaces where Wokeness has taken hold, not only in the United States but throughout the Western world, we no longer have healthy, functioning democracies.

Wokeness is deep into the process of filling the void with objectives and methodologies that bear the classic hallmarks of totalitarianism. (...)

Hallmark #1: Legitimacy and Authority Based on the Arbitrary Dichotomization of the Subject Populace

Wokeness is nothing less than a project to unilaterally tear down, and to re-structure, the entirety of our human environment—this includes all society, culture, customs, ethics, and politics in the United States and across the Western world—to fall into alignment with whatever arbitrary contours it desires. What it desires is to get rid of all of Western civilization, past, present, and future, which it re-names "Whiteness"—the original sin of Woke doctrine, and to which it attaches its own re-defined adjective "racist"—and replace it with "Wokeness," characterized first and foremost by its own re-defined attribute of "anti-racist," hence, "anti-Whiteness."

These desiderata are admittedly subjective and whimsical, avowedly based on feelings and desires, placing Wokeness in alignment with a philosophically postmodern, pre-Enlightenment mindset. The Woke legions explicitly disclaim the philosophy of rational objectivity, which is denounced as a Woke-defined "racist," therefore "white" philosophy. Its linguistic architecture, lack of an individualistic leadership structure, and determination to tear down of enemy (Western civilizational and older) dichotomies (e.g., men and women) and ethical systems rely heavily on and trace back to postmodernism. As a form of poststructuralism, postmodernism abhors all fixed dichotomies and structures generally. Despite its postmodern origins, Wokeness's construction of its own rigid dichotomies and other structures contains a distinct, but borrowed, 20th-century modernist component. At the same time, its endeavor to establish its arbitrary, rigidly-structured form of governance without trying to cover up the latter's arbitrary character by asserting some basis for itself in objective rationality, as 20th-century communism, fascism, and even Scientology tried to do, is more akin to the pre-modern totalitarianism of ISIS.

Wokeness, in its arrogance and attitude of unchallengeable self-righteousness, instead of molding itself to fit the needs of Western civilization as it finds it, claims, and then exercises, the right and authority to systematically re-design it and every individual in it in whatever manner it wishes. It does not negotiate its demands of us; it simply executes them, and it does so with both a singular sense of urgency and a peculiar intensity of focus.

(...)

Historical communism, an ideology organized around a class-based dichotomy relating to the ownership of the economic means of production, placed workers in the honored group category, and the bourgeoisie, that is, capitalists and the owners of capital, in the dishonored group. Historical fascism grounded itself in race- and ethnicity-based dichotomies: Aryans constituted the honored group, Jews constituted the dishonored group, while non-Aryan foreigners were cast as inferior out-group members. ISIS, constituted on a religious dichotomy, has Sunni Muslims as its honored group, with Shi'ite Muslims, who are considered heretics, and all other disbelievers as members of dishonored groups, collectively denounced as kufar (infidels). The cult of Scientology, basing itself on a non-religious, complex, abstract belief system, holds those who accept that architecture as their own to be in the honored group and those who refuse in the dishonored group; it also explicitly requires the members of its in-group to cut all ties, even family ties, with the disbelievers beyond its invisible walls. Today, the Woke claim to authority is being constituted on the grounds of race-, color-, ethnicity-, and sex-based dichotomies, with its honored and dishonored groups constructed explicitly around them.

Therefore, whereas the classification of the populace, and the denial of equal status under the law based on ascribed categories (i.e., attributes given at birth) were in the latter stages of being phased out in the United States and the other liberal democracies as the 20th century pressed on, Wokeness, as a 21st century successor ideology, has set out to deeply re-instill them in accordance with its own self-avowedly subjective priorities. As an ideology and as a movement, it fully adheres to the totalitarian pattern of basing its core claim to authority on the coercive re-classification of the entire subject populace into its own friend/enemy compartments. We now move to a discussion of who and what are in these different compartments.

(...)

As between the racial and sexual self-identity categories, the former holds predominance (i.e., a black man will have a higher status in Wokeness than a white male-by-birth transsexual, though the latter will still enjoy the higher status within the transsexual subcategory, whereas a black man or woman will not lose any status points as compared to a similarly-pigmented transsexual). In other words, "white privilege" trumps what Wokeness terms "cis" privilege where both are at play, and as long as one has the right skin color, the sexual attribute doesn't add anything; therefore, the Woke claim to authority is ultimately based on racial classification—indeed, this is unsurprising as it mostly arose from black liberationist feminism. Wokeness also incorporates a page from Communism into its racially-based ideology: it advocates a kind of racial socialism ("racial equity"), in which wealth would be massively re-distributed along racial lines.

Where Wokeness differs from its totalitarian predecessors is in the fact that its in-groups and out-groups are not entirely synonymous with or identical to its honored and dishonored groups. The difference is as follows: honored/dishonored group membership determines the social ranking and relative status of acceptable individuals, whereas in-group/out-group membership determines the acceptability or unacceptability of the individual person in the first place, and his right to have any status at all.

Fundamentally, then, an individual's membership in the in-group, his acceptability as a human person with a right to exist, is determined not by his race or sexual self-identity but by his acceptance of the new Woke social contract. An acceptable person is defined as someone who agrees to accept, respect, cherish, and prioritize, over and above any other values he may have had before, the Woke honored group and dishonored group classifications, and to agree to re-structure all of society, and all facets of his day-to-day life, around them. In return, these individuals are granted the right to live normal lives, or what we would call "the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." This right does not exist in Wokeness by default, not even for honored group members, and consequently, individuals Wokeness deems unacceptable are not entitled to it.

(...)

Hallmark #2: An Intense Focus on Domestic Enemies

Unlike liberal democracies, totalitarian entities are characterized by an intense, unwavering focus on their declared internal (domestic) enemies, which they require in order to survive, thrive, and expand their powers. Specifically, the domestic enemies of Wokeness include, at the collective level, all dishonored group populations across the board, except those individuals among them whom Wokeness deems to be acceptable. Its highest-level enemies are those dishonored group individuals who actively and openly dissent from Woke authority, deliberately ignore or mock the mandated Woke party line, state their belief in the principles of color-blindness, free speech and association, or equal treatment under the law, or are otherwise audacious enough to proclaim these blasphemous thoughts from the rooftops, unapologetically and proudly so. Most of these people have no issue with the members of the honored groups of Wokeness per se, they just ardently disbelieve in the concept of honored and dishonored groups on its face, which for Wokeness is the highest form of crimethink.

People who express these opinions publicly with the intent to influence the views of others constitute the open dissenters from Wokeness, its dissident opposition. (...) This overt, public Unwokeness threatens Wokeness's hold on the remainder of the populace, and as such, it has to be forbidden completely: in order for Wokeness to complete its rise to power, Unwokeness, as a phenomenon, has to die.

Along these same lines, members of honored groups who publicly count themselves among the proudly Unwoke, which Wokeness would consider malicious out-group behavior—are considered traitors to Wokeness, and therefore, if the transgression is serious enough, will suffer consequences every bit as great as would any disbelieving honored group member. This makes it clear that the Woke care more about enforcing their authority than they do about honoring the individual members of honored group categories: intentional Unwoke speech or action ultimately trumps a person's honored group status. A black man in Milwaukee was executed by Woke activists for brandishing political signs supporting the wrong presidential candidate; the head of Goya Foods, of Latin American ancestry, found his company targeted by the Internet's Woke mobs for having shown up at the White House.

(...)

Neutrals from members of dishonored groups, for all intents and purposes, are placed into the enemy camp: Wokeness does not recognize, acknowledge, respect, or accept any claim of neutrality on the part of any person or group. (...) Anyone who wishes to be treated as neutral, to stay out of the fray, will find that the expectations Wokeness has of him are no different than for any other person. The would-be neutral is placed squarely into the out-group category; and if he also displays white skin coloring, he is doubly guilty, because he is also a member of a dishonored group.

(...)

Hallmark #3: Proclamation of a Complex, Ever-Changing, Mandatory Party Line

Having divided the populace into immutable honored and dishonored groups, Wokeness builds the compulsion for compliance with its preferred social hierarchies and friend/enemy classifications into everyday speech by constructing its mandatory party line script around them. This is done to force the population to speak and even think in ways that recognize, comply with, enforce, and reinforce the Woke-defined relative status, or lack thereof, of each group. Composed of myriad sets of rules, rituals, customs, and beliefs, the Woke party line stands as a grand ideological sociocultural superstructure through which Wokeness seeks to pre-determine all permissible modes of thought, speech, and interaction.

Proclaimed onto us from outside our existing political and sociocultural order, from an illegitimate, unrecognized, self-anointed authority, the party line is arbitrary, ever-intensifying, and ever-changing. It evolves in ways that allow the Woke legions to adapt, seize newly available opportunities, tighten their grip, and increase the efficiency of their enforcement mechanisms through their ongoing collective learning process. (...)

(...) Sometimes we don't even know about these revisions until they are enforced; thus we are motivated out of fear to keep ourselves constantly up to date. And since they are alien to our longstanding modes of thought, and avowedly not based in any objective rationality, there is no way for us to logically predict or infer what new absurdity will be demanded of us next.

Hallmark #4: Re-forming the Individual Based on the "New Man" Principle

In order to create conditions for the population to interact, both with one another and with the state, in accordance with Wokeness's new arbitrary human group categories, deep re-structuring of the society's self-perception is required. This starts, as it does in all totalitarian enterprises, with the deconstruction of the individual as he was and his reconstruction according to what would, in any other context, be described as the "new man" principle, thus priming him for assimilation into the Party's collective consciousness.

The "new man" approach to societal engineering starts with the presumption that the individual is unacceptable as he is and has to be reformed (that is, re-formed, which means "to form again"). The approach is then scaled up to the entire population. The compulsory re-molding of people to fit someone else's pre-determined script is illiberal on its face, incompatible with any kind of freedom or democracy. This holds doubly true for Wokeness, because its particular doctrine explicitly denounces the principle of individualism as a "racist" (enemy) form of thought. Wokeness does not want to merely break down and re-create the individual in its own image, but to explicitly de-create the individual's notion of individuality itself.

This tearing down of the individual as he was is accomplished by climbing inside the human mind and using each person's emotions and morality, together with various forms of coercion, to convince him that he needs to be re-molded. The ultimate aim is the erasure of any previously-held beliefs and the inscription into the mind of the approved script in their place. Once the slate of the mind has been cleared, indoctrination is pumped in, and the person is re-educated into the Woke self-concept, using propaganda and brainwashing, backed by a self-declared claim of moral authority and a credible threat of existential consequences for non-compliance. The subsequent carrying out by the "new man" of whatever approved script applies to his group classification represents the real-world enactment of the re-ordered set of priorities imposed from outside.

Wokeness shares with other totalitarian movements a propensity to focus sharply on the indoctrination of young people, especially the very young: children and young people are blank slates, and hence, the hard work of erasing longstanding modes of thought is not required. Consequently, Wokeness is being deeply and aggressively injected into the educational curriculum at all levels. Having escaped the university, it made a beeline directly into the K-12 school system, to the point where a great deal of the standard curriculum for all schoolchildren in the United States is now completely structured around and endowed with substance in accordance with the absurdities contained within the indoctrination protocol. The movement even has its own youth groups for honored group children, which are strictly dedicated to the inculcation of Woke ideology and include participation in Woke-sanctioned marches and demonstrations.

In adult communities, Woke re-education, which comes in the form of seminars and "training" sessions in the workplace, includes mental abuse and gaslighting of members of dishonored groups. (...)

Hallmark #5: The Emergence of the Atmospheric Fear Layer

Anyone who has ever been in a totalitarian country, including this author, who has spent considerable time in a number of them, will keenly remember the existence of a layer of tension that is always present, not in the background, but in the foreground. The vibe of baseline tension permeates to the core atmosphere of the interhuman environment, not just in certain kinds of interactions, but in all of them, on a collective, societywide basis. It is created by the background existence of the totalitarian authority, its ever-watchful eyes, the pervasiveness of its enforcements, and the severity of its punishments. It forces every person, every time he steps out of his house, and sometimes even within it, i.e., around his own children, and especially around his computer, to mind the integrity of the compartment between his free internal thoughts that live inside his head and his unfree external behavior out in the world. It requires every person, as he conducts his normal daily interactions with others, to always take great care with every word or silence, every action or non-action, to hew correctly and with sufficient enthusiasm to the mandated party line.

(...)

When everyone is walking eggshells not some of the time, but all of the time, when everyone is afraid of making a mistake, of speaking the wrong word or not speaking the right one, of forgetting to say something when it is required, or of inadvertently doing or saying anything that could be interpreted, correctly or incorrectly, as a "microaggression" against a Woke disciple or any member of an honored group, this is the sort of material out of which the totalitarian fear layer is brought into existence. Every active dissenter from Wokeness feels its tensile force already, whether consciously or subconsciously, in the rapidly increasing tightness of the demands this alien doctrine is now imposing on us, and the life-altering consequences of non-compliance with or ignorance of Woke expectations. There will come a time when its presence will be undeniable, when the entire population, even the most naive and politically inexperienced, will come to experience it for the first time. At that point, as Wokeness enters the mature phase of its development, it will fast be approaching the peak of its powers, and all but impossible to oppose or defeat.

The emergence of the fear layer, concurrently with the sudden irruption of Woke doctrines and enforcement protocols into the mainstream of public life, confirms beyond any doubt that Wokeness as a movement is not consent-based, it is power-based. Its authority is not requested, demanded, or solicited; it is imposed. Submission to its rules and repetitive declarations of allegiance and adherence to it are absolutely compulsory and are a part of the movement's ritual. Power is exclusive to the Woke, but that power may be rescinded from any person at any moment, on any arbitrary basis, especially from members of dishonored groups.

Hallmark #6: The Cancellation of Public Discourse and Conscientious Objection

Those who are sufficiently Awake to the fact of Woke power in the here and now can see that at the level of both people and ideas, it's purge night in America. Purging is purification: Wokeness is collectivist, and Wokeness itself represents the new Collective its in-groups are building. The right to dissent, in contrast, belongs to an individualist value system (...)

To achieve full power, and to signify the passing and death of the country slated for cancellation, Wokeness would have to become capable of officially retiring the American flag and national anthem from all public institutions, buildings, venues, and events, just as it has already retired American history and Western civilization from the greater part of our children's classrooms. It is already trying to re-structure America's founding date around its own categories (i.e., through its 1619 Project), and weaken our national holidays (e.g., Columbus Day, Fourth of July) with a view to ultimately replacing them, and so forth, in order to artificially place their honored/dishonored group classifications at the center of our national memory. A country emptied of its established history is not a country; such a country will find that its once-cherished monuments celebrating that history will automatically take on the features of zombie symbols and become even easier to pull down than they are already.

(...)

The purge extends from the realm of American values, symbols, and laws to actual living people who do not wish to live under the Woke value system or be subject to its social contract. Central to Wokeness's totalitarian form, even prior to having taken official power of the country itself, is its conduct of active human purges, that is, search and destroy missions against the lives of individuals it deems unacceptable, and against the basic rights of people it has assigned to dishonored group categories.

Today, instead of the unacceptable individual being condemned to a lifetime of forced labor in a gulag or a re-education camp, or forever disappeared by the secret police, he is handed a life sentence of "cancellation." (...)

Wokeness purges disobedience not only from the national discourse, but from any participation in social, cultural, economic, and political life at all. In most cases, it doesn't resort to the crude tools of direct physical violence, but instead wields the power of the torch-bearing mob—combined with the silencing levers of the Woke Silicon Valley technology elite—against its victims individually. No single person acting alone could hope to defend himself from the oncoming tidal wave populated by the small contributions of so many people to his demise. Thus is the energy of the Woke Internet mob actively mobilized and leveraged to deny the unacceptable person not only the right to participate in the public discourse, but also the permission to earn a living, by also targeting his employer with accusations of guilt by association. Cancelled individuals and their associates are not entitled, in the judgement of Wokeness, to the right to live a normal and peaceful life free from threats or acts of economic sanction, bodily injury, or death.

(...)

Cancellation may not be physically painful or terminal, but its finality is just as great and its objective is the same as it was for the totalitarians of times past; it is simply more refined and requires fewer resources, while being just as effective in accomplishing its goal. The objective in all cases is to silence and excommunicate unacceptable individuals from society and the economy so they cannot enjoy the legitimacy of their own existence, the credibility of their views, or the ability to influence others. This has the effect of appearing to make the speaking of unacceptable thought realistically impossible, and of effectively deterring others from adopting a position of dissent. However, in a number of European countries, Wokeness has also gained a level of influence over the state such that people are being sent to jail for exhibiting Unwokeness in public. Because the First Amendment to the US Constitution is already in its crosshairs, similar penal outcomes for unacceptable speech would clearly be forthcoming in a future United States of Woke.

(...)

Tämä on vedetty nimimerkillä / salanimellä, mutta artikkelin mukaan kirjoittaja on
Quoteformerly a professor at a major Western university, holds a Ph.D. in Philosophy, and as an intellectual generalist, is peer-review published in several separate fields of study that would fall within both the humanities and the hard sciences. The author is also world-travelled and multilingual, having spent time in more than two dozen countries; this includes both democratic countries and others that are universally recognized as authoritarian or totalitarian.

Paikoitellen ehkä vähän sakeaa, mutta suurimmasta osasta olen kyllä täysin samaa mieltä. Tuo on mielestäni erityisen "hauska" pointti, että woken kaltaisten totalitarististen ideologioiden leviämisen on mahdollistanut länsimaissa yleistynyt superrikkaiden globalistien harvainvalta. Ja sitten wokeliikkeen aallonharjalla ratsastaa juuri tämä sama poppoo, go figure...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.04.2021, 23:54:05
Kovasti peukkua tällaisille ihmisille.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students)

QuoteI Refuse to Stand By While My Students Are Indoctrinated
Children are afraid to challenge the repressive ideology that rules our school. That's why I am.
   
I am a teacher at Grace Church High School in Manhattan. Ten years ago, I changed careers when I discovered how rewarding it is to help young people explore the truth and beauty of mathematics. I love my work.

As a teacher, my first obligation is to my students. But right now, my school is asking me to embrace "antiracism" training and pedagogy that I believe is deeply harmful to them and to any person who seeks to nurture the virtues of curiosity, empathy and understanding.   

"Antiracist" training sounds righteous, but it is the opposite of truth in advertising. (...)

I know that by attaching my name to this I'm risking not only my current job but my career as an educator, since most schools, both public and private, are now captive to this backward ideology. But witnessing the harmful impact it has on children, I can't stay silent.

My school, like so many others, induces students via shame and sophistry to identify primarily with their race before their individual identities are fully formed. Students are pressured to conform their opinions to those broadly associated with their race and gender and to minimize or dismiss individual experiences that don't match those assumptions. The morally compromised status of "oppressor" is assigned to one group of students based on their immutable characteristics. In the meantime, dependency, resentment and moral superiority are cultivated in students considered "oppressed."

All of this is done in the name of "equity," but it is the opposite of fair. In reality, all of this reinforces the worst impulses we have as human beings: our tendency toward tribalism and sectarianism that a truly liberal education is meant to transcend.

(...) I was informed by the head of the high school that my philosophical challenges had caused "harm" to students, given that these topics were "life and death matters, about people's flesh and blood and bone." I was reprimanded for "acting like an independent agent of a set of principles or ideas or beliefs." And I was told that by doing so, I failed to serve the "greater good and the higher truth."

He further informed me that I had created "dissonance for vulnerable and unformed thinkers" and "neurological disturbance in students' beings and systems." The school's director of studies added that my remarks could even constitute harassment.

(...)

They report that, in their classes and other discussions, they must never challenge any of the premises of our "antiracist" teachings, which are deeply informed by Critical Race Theory. (...)

Every student at the school must also sign a "Student Life Agreement," which requires them to aver that "the world as we understand it can be hard and extremely biased," that they commit to "recognize and acknowledge their biases when we come to school, and interrupt those biases," and accept that they will be "held accountable should they fall short of the agreement." A recent faculty email chain received enthusiastic support for recommending that we "'officially' flag students" who appear "resistant" to the "culture we are trying to establish."

When I questioned what form this resistance takes, examples presented by a colleague included "persisting with a colorblind ideology," "suggesting that we treat everyone with respect," "a belief in meritocracy," and "just silence." In a special assembly in February 2019, our head of school said that the impact of words and images perceived as racist — regardless of intent — is akin to "using a gun or a knife to kill or injure someone."

Imagine being a young person in this environment. Would you risk voicing your doubts, especially if you had never heard a single teacher question it?

(...)

The head of school responded to me that "people like (Glenn) Loury's lived experience—and therefore his derived social philosophy" made him an exception to the rule that black thinkers acknowledge structural racism as the paramount impediment in society. He added that "the moment we are in institutionally and culturally, does not lend itself to dispassionate discussion and debate," and discussing Loury's ideas would "only confuse and/or enflame students, both those in the class and others that hear about it outside of the class." He preferred I assign "mainstream white conservatives," effectively denying black students the opportunity to hear from a black professor who holds views that diverge from the orthodoxy pushed on them.

(...)

My administration says that these constraints on discourse are necessary to shield students from harm. But it is clear to me that these constraints serve primarily to shield their ideology from harm — at the cost of students' psychological and intellectual development.

(...)

QuoteI am extremely proud to publish this piece by Paul Rossi. If you are a teacher who finds yourself in a similar situation; if you want to speak out but are afraid to risk your job; if you believe that political indoctrination has no place in schools, Paul would love to hear from you.

Write to him at: [email protected]

Jotenkin jäi mieleen tämä kohta:

Quoteour head of school said that the impact of words and images perceived as racist — regardless of intent — is akin to "using a gun or a knife to kill or injure someone.

Verratkaa Vantaan Persujen puheenjohtajan kommenttiin:

QuoteOn täysin yhdentekevää mitä kirjoittaja on tarkoittanut tai ajaa takaa kirjoituksellaan, jos kirjoituksen kohteeksi joutunut/joutuneet kokevat itsensä loukatuiksi!

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131828.msg3293475.html#msg3293475 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131828.msg3293475.html#msg3293475)

Missä harja?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 14.04.2021, 10:57:03
Jälleen tämä lyhyenä pohjustuksena:

Quote from: zupi on 23.03.2021, 01:02:24

https://journal.fi/kasvatusjaaika/article/view/84816/47404 (https://journal.fi/kasvatusjaaika/article/view/84816/47404)

QuoteMiksi meidän kaikkien pitäisi olla feministisiä pedagogeja

QuoteTietokirjoituksissa käydään läpi feministisen pedagogiikan taustaa: teoreettisen perustan
nähdään nivoutuvan Paulo Freiren ajatteluun ja sosiaalista oikeudenmukaisuutta tavoittelevaan
kriittiseen pedagogiikkaan
. (...)

Alla Rufon uusin kirjoitus, josta käy hyvin ilmi se, mistä tuossa Freiren ajattelussa ja kriittisessä / feministisessä pedagogiikassa on pohjimmiltaan kyse. Ja tätä ihan samaa nämä hihhulit tunkevat siis yliopistoihin ja kouluihin myös täällä Suomessa.

QuoteMerchants of Revolution
California's ethnic studies initiatives train children in Marxist theory—and opposition to the American system.

California public schools are embarking on a new experiment: education as social justice. (...)

This will likely come as a surprise to most California residents, who may be familiar with the movement's euphemisms—"ethnic studies," "educational equity," "culturally responsive teaching"—but do not understand the philosophical and political premises of these programs. As the state and many school districts begin to implement the state ethnic studies curriculum, however, details are emerging.

(...) The leaders, including district staff, an advisor for the state Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum, and a professor from San Jose State University, encouraged teachers to inject left-wing politics into the classroom and to hide controversial materials from parents.

(...)

Next, Jorge Pacheco, president of the California Latino School Boards Association and advisor for the state Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum, presented the movement's conceptual framework. Pacheco explained that the ethnic studies curriculum is based on the work of Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire, who invented the concept of the "pedagogy of the oppressed," which holds that students must be educated to understand their oppression and develop the practical skills, or "praxis," to challenge and eventually overthrow their oppressors. Pacheco acknowledged that the Marxist underpinnings to ethnic studies "scare people away" but insisted that teachers must be "grounded in the correct politics to educate students."

(...)

What is the solution? Pacheco argues that teachers must "awaken [students] to the oppression" and lead them to "decodify" and eventually "destroy" the dominant political regime. (...) Pacheco describes this process as transforming students into "activist intellectuals" who "decodify systems of oppression" into their component parts, including "white supremacy, patriarchy, classism, genocide, private property, and God."

Teachers must be careful, though: Pacheco and the other panelists suggested that local educators hide this revolutionary pedagogy from administrators and families. "District guidelines and expectations are barriers," said one panelist. "[We] have to be extra careful about what is being said, since we can't just say something controversial now that we're in people's homes [because of remote learning]." (...)

The goal, according to the presenters, is to "develop, pilot, and refine an adaptable and scalable Ethnic Studies program design plan and curriculum that can serve as standalone courses or be integrated into core content areas." This is already happening. Last month, the California Department of Education approved the statewide curriculum, which will bring the "pedagogy of the oppressed" to schools throughout the state. But for the movement's leaders, the goal is to go further. At the end of the presentation in Santa Clara, Pacheco argued that schools should start transforming children into "activist intellectuals," beginning in first grade. "[It's] never too young," he said, arguing that educators should be "cashing in on kids' inherent empathy" in order to reshape their ideological foundations.

This is a dystopian project. As these pedagogical theories make their way into the classroom, California schools will be teaching millions of children to hate their own country. They will be oriented toward the work of "decolonizing," "deconstructing," and "dismantling" their own society. The ethnic studies activists grasp the destabilizing nature of their project—and believe that it provides them leverage for their broader political ends. During the Santa Clara presentation, Pacheco and the other instructors provided the audience with a handout quoting Freire: "Critical consciousness, they say, is anarchic. Others add that critical consciousness may lead to disorder. Some, however, confess: Why deny it? I was afraid of freedom. I am no longer afraid!" Though they are coy about their ultimate intention, the ethnic studies activists seek, at a minimum, a moral revolution—and, out of such tumults, political revolutions often follow.

California voters may not realize it, but they have installed a radical movement in the state educational bureaucracy.

https://www.city-journal.org/california-ethnic-studies-programs-merchants-of-revolution (https://www.city-journal.org/california-ethnic-studies-programs-merchants-of-revolution)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 14.04.2021, 12:41:35
Greenwald laskettelee siitä tosiasta, että kunhan nykyisin julkisesti vain julistaa woke-uskontoa, niin muuten voi sitten puuhastella ihan mitä tahansa. Kukaan ei välitä. Ja myös siitä, miten valtaeliitti käyttää tällä tavoin woke-kulttia demokratian tuhoamiseen. Mitä nyt woke-kulttikin luonnollisesti myös tavoittelee. Demokratiakin kun on jokin valkoisen patriarkaatin kehittelemä juoni vähemmistöjen sortamiseksi...

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/big-corporations-now-deploying-woke (https://greenwald.substack.com/p/big-corporations-now-deploying-woke)

QuoteBig Corporations Now Deploying Woke Ideology the Way Intelligence Agencies Do: As a Disguise
      
(...)

The British spy agency GCHQ is so aggressive, extreme and unconstrained by law or ethics that the NSA — not exactly world renowned for its restraint — often farms out spying activities too scandalous or illegal for the NSA to their eager British counterparts. (...)

But they want you to know that they absolutely adore gay people. In fact, they love the cause of LGBT equality so very much that, beginning on May 17, 2015 — International Day against Homophobia, Transphobia and Biphobia — they started draping their creepy, UFO-style headquarters in the colors of the rainbow flag. The prior year, in 2014, they had merely raised the rainbow flag in front of their headquarters, but in 2015, they announced, "we wanted to make a bold statement to show the nation we serve how strongly we believe in this."

Who could possibly be opposed to an institution that offers such noble gestures and works behind such a pretty facade? How bad could the GCHQ really be if they are so deeply committed to the rights of gay men, lesbians, bisexuals and trans people? (...)

Again, this does not make the CIA perfect — sure, they make some mistakes and engage in some actions that are worthy of criticism — but to combat real evil, you do not go protest at Langley. They are engaged in important work combating homophobia, racism and misogyny. Thus, real warriors against evil look not to them but instead go searching online for the Boogaloo Boys and boomers on Facebook who post Q-Anon and other problematic memes. That is where your focus should remain if you want to root out the real threats.

Large corporations have obviously witnessed the success of this tactic — to prettify the face of militarism and imperialism with the costumes of social justice — and are now weaponizing it for themselves. As a result, they are becoming increasingly aggressive in their involvement in partisan and highly politicized debates, always on the side of the same causes of social justice which entities of imperialism and militarism have so effectively co-opted.

Corporations have always sought to control the legislative process and executive branch, usually with much success. (...)

But they are now going far beyond clandestine corporatist control of the government for their own interests. They are now becoming increasingly powerful participants in highly polarizing and democratic debates. In the wake of the George Floyd killing last summer, it became virtually obligatory for every large corporation to proclaim support for the #BlackLivesMatter agenda even though many, if not most, had never previously evinced the slightest interest in questions of racial justice or policing.

One of the very few companies that refused to do so was the Silicon Valley-based cryptocurrency exchange platform called Coinbase (...) And exactly two months after, the notoriously censorious and politicized "tech reporters" of The New York Times punished the company for its heresy of neutrality with a lengthy article depicting Coinbase as a bastion of racism and toxic bigotry (...)

Ever since, large corporations are diving into numerous other political debates with great vigor and force
(...) The Wall Street Journal on Sunday reported that "dozens of chief executives and other senior leaders gathered on Zoom this weekend to plot what several said big businesses should do next about new voting laws under way in Texas and other states." The campaign against these laws includes not just corporate giants but also the nation's largest and richest corporate law firms.

(...) "Wall Street is putting its money behind Democrat Barack Obama for president," reported Reuters in 2008, while they did the same overwhelmingly in 2020 to support Biden over Trump (just as Democrats have increasingly become the party of affluent suburbanites, they are also increasingly supported by the wealthiest corporate and tech power centers).

The farcical nature of all of this is obvious. Just as it is laughable that the CIA and GCHQ care about social justice, feminism, and racial diversity as they bomb and subvert the rest of the world in ways that contradict all of those professed values, the idea that corporate giants who use sweatshops, slave labor, mass layoffs and abuse of their workforce care about any of these causes would make any rational person suffocate on the stench of their insincerity.

(...) when giant corporations use their unparalleled economic power to override that process — by forcing state and local governments to rescind or reject laws they would otherwise support due to fear of corporate punishment — then the system, by definition, far more resembles an oligarchy than a democracy. Rod Dreher, writing on Monday in The American Conservative, advanced arguments and concerns that were once the province of the left:

    This is progressive oligarchy. Woke Capitalism is a threat to democracy. As I write about in Live Not By Lies, these same people are eventually going to eagerly collaborate with government to create the Social Credit System necessary to make this country controllable.

    When is it going to occur to people on the Left that Big Business is doing all this because it knows that if it makes the right moves on cultural issues that matter to the Woke, it will be able to do whatever it wants to workers? (...)

(...)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 16.04.2021, 19:02:53
Sopinee tähän ketjuun parhaiten.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 18.04.2021, 19:43:04
Ehkä sopii tähän ketjuun miten Papa Johns CEO yritettiin leimata rasistiksi.

Papa John's founder claims he was framed
Forme Papa John's CEO John Schnatter on the conspiracy to oust him from the company, PR firm allegedly 'framed' him, the inclusion of notable figures and more - via Newsmax TV's 'American Agenda'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR8MWAemO8k
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 19.04.2021, 06:28:42
Eihän tämä wokeismi ole mikään uusi asia. Mietin aikani ja keksin lopulta miksi se kuulostaa niin tutulta.

Kun olin lapsi ja ala-asteella, meidän luokalla oli muutama rikkaan perheen pissistyttö, jotka käytännössä määrittelivät sen mitä mieltä muut luokan tytöt saivat mistäkin asiasta olla ja mistä he saivat tykätä. Jos ei totellut heidän oikkujaan, joutui hyvin nopeasti paitsioon ja luokan hylkiöksi mm. ilkeilyn ja selän takana paskan puhumisen avulla.

Tämähän siis toteutui seuraavasti:

Vuoden alussa "Sanna" tykkäsi Backstreet Boysista, inhosi makaronilaatikkoa ja rakasti Leviksiä ja vihasi violettia väriä. Silloin sun oli myös parasta tykätä Backstreet Boysista, paitsi siitä Nickistä, jota "Sanna" rakasti, koska jos tykkäsit siitä niin yritit viedä sen "Sannalta". Sun piti myös inhota makaronilaatikkoa ja violettia väriä. Sait pitää Leviksiä, jos olit "Sannan" bestis, muuten jos pidit Leviksiä yritit matkia "Sannan" tyyliä, ja siis sehän on ala-asteikäisten tyttöjen mielestä suunnilleen kuolemansynti.

Maaliskuussa sitten "Sanna" inhosi Backstreet Boysia ja rakasti nyt vihreää väriä ja oli alkanutkin pitää Adidaksen nappiverkkareita Levisten sijaan. Jos pidit yhä Leviksiä, et voinut enää olla "Sannan" kaveri, koska Levikset oli out. Jos et ollut hänen kaverinsa ja sulla oli nappiverkkarit, olit taas matkija, ja sut piti haukkua kaikille. Vihreästä väristä toki sait pitää, kaikkihan rakastaa vihreää väriä kuten "Sanna". Paitsi touokuussa, kun "Sanna" yhtäkkiä vihasi vihreää ja rakasti keltaista. Mutta et silloinkaan saanut tykätä keltaisesta väristä jos et ollut oikeissa piireissä eli "Sannan" bestis. Makaronilaatikostakin oli yhtäkkiä tullut herkkua, paitsi jos joku väärä tyttö sanoi että heillä oli eilen makaronilaatikkoa, "Sanna" haukkui heti kyseisen ruokalajin maan rakoon.

Toukokuussa "Sanna" sanoi että pitsa oli maailman parasta ruokaa ja XL5 oli ihan paras bändi ja vaan ääliöt tykkää Backstreet Boysista. Ja taas sininen väri oli ihanin. Ja luokan tytöt huusivat kuorossa hallelujaa, paitsi minä, jonka mielipiteet olivat pysyneet suht samoina koko vuoden ja joka ei nähnyt mitään järkeä muutella niitä sen mukaan mitä mieltä "Sanna" oli. Niinpä "Sanna" kavereineen alkoi levitellä juoruja ja kääntää muita tyttöjä minua ja muutamaa muuta päänsä pitänyttä tyttöä vastaan. Pian kukaan ei uskaltanut edes puhua meille, koska "Sannan" kosto olisi ollut kauhea.

Elämä tällaisessa ympäristössä oli todella stressaavaa, kun ikinä ei tiennyt, mistä sai kuulla kunniansa. Ne sosiaaliset säännöt, mitkä pätivät viime viikolla, eivät olleetkaan enää kuukauden päästä voimassa, tai olivat peräti kiepsahtaneet ympäri. Jos oli itse aina käyttänyt farkkuja siinä missä muut tytöt vaikka verkkareita, niin kun suosittu tyttö ihastui yhtäkkiä Leviksiin, sai kuulla olevansa säälittävä matkija. Jos tykkäsit bändistä X tänään ja se oli muiden tyttöjen mielestä kivaa tai ihan ok, niin huomenna bändi X olikin ihan jäätävää roskaa, samoin sinäkin koska tykkäsit siitä. Elämä oli kuin pesukone joka linkoaa viiden minuutin välein.

Luulin tällaisen ajattelu- ja toimintatavan jääneen taakse, kun tytöt täyttivät 12 ja pääsivät pois ala-asteelta. Mutta huomaan, että se ei suinkaan ole jäänyt sinne ala-asteelle, vaan se on tehnyt paluun nimenomaan nykyisten parikymppisten naisten kohdalla. Tänään saat olla tätä mieltä, paitsi jos olet tällainen ja tuollainen. Huomenna sun pitää ola ihan eri mieltä, paitsi jos olet tuollainen ja tällainen. Ja jos olet XYZ niin sun pitää olla hiljaa, paitsi että anteeksi saat pyytää, siis olemassaoloasi. Säännöt muuttuvat koko ajan ja mistään ei voi olla varma mitä saa sanoa ja mitä mieltä olla seuraavana päivänä, seuraavalla viikolla.

Wokeismi ei ole mitään muuta kuin pikkutyttöjen oikuttelevaa mielivaltaa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 19.04.2021, 10:25:58
Quote from: zupi on 14.04.2021, 12:41:35
The farcical nature of all of this is obvious. Just as it is laughable that the CIA and GCHQ care about social justice, feminism, and racial diversity as they bomb and subvert the rest of the world in ways that contradict all of those professed values, the idea that corporate giants who use sweatshops, slave labor, mass layoffs and abuse of their workforce care about any of these causes would make any rational person suffocate on the stench of their insincerity.

Tuosta tulee mieleen Tiktokissa taannoin näkemäni videopätkä, jonka tekstit menivät jotenkin seuraavasti.

We kill muslims in Afganistan.
We kill muslims in Irak.
We kill muslims in Syria.

Then, why are we now so concerned about human rights of muslims in Xinjiang, China?

Tuohon kun miettii vastausta, niin oivaltanee paljon tämän maailman todellisesta menosta ja erinäisten motiivien luonteesta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.04.2021, 13:41:26
Quote from: zupi on 13.04.2021, 23:54:05
Kovasti peukkua tällaisille ihmisille.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students)

QuoteI Refuse to Stand By While My Students Are Indoctrinated
Children are afraid to challenge the repressive ideology that rules our school. That's why I am.
   
(...)

My administration says that these constraints on discourse are necessary to shield students from harm. But it is clear to me that these constraints serve primarily to shield their ideology from harm — at the cost of students' psychological and intellectual development.

(...)

(...)

Ja niinhän siinä sitten kävi... Woke hallitsee pelolla, vaikka tietenkin ovat hyviä ihmisiä kaikki.

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QuoteRe: An Update and a Parent Communication
From:
Paul Rossi
Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:54 AM
To:
George P. Davison

Dear George,

I am writing in response to the letter that you sent over the weekend to my colleagues. Grace's public story — the story it is telling to the press and to its own community — has been very different from what you have told me. In light of your statement that my essay "contains glaring omissions and inaccuracies," and in support of those who will inevitably be scared into silence by seeing the price I am now paying for speaking up, I am compelled to share what you have told me in our previous conversations.

In the letter, you reaffirm that Grace's "commitment to antiracism is consistent with our identity and mission" and that "it has been at the heart of our work for years."

I believe that you share my desire to ensure that racism does not mar the experience of students at Grace. But, like me, you also expressed "grave doubts about some of the doctrinaire stuff that gets spouted at us, in the name of antiracism." When I told you "they're fighting a revolution" and "will hollow out Grace and move on to the next institution," you acknowledged that "they've hollowed out a bunch of other ones ahead of us."

You write that you "find it regrettable that Paul Rossi chose to air his grievances with the school in the press."

But as you well know, speaking publicly about this was hardly my first choice. Over the course of several years, I have made my specific concerns clear, not only to you, but to the Head of High School, and the Assistant Head. These concerns centered on the impact of this doctrinaire ideology on our students. Even when I have simply tried to expose our students to alternative points of view in the classroom, I have been repeatedly shut down. The school's response to my efforts to raise these concerns internally left me no choice but to speak about them publicly.

In the letter, you say that "the wellbeing of our community is our first priority," and that Grace cares "deeply about human dignity."

And yet you admitted to me that Grace Church is, in fact, "demonizing white people for being born," and that the school is making white students "feel less than, for nothing that they are personally responsible for."

While I cannot know for certain, I suspect that the reason you have not shared these concerns with the broader Grace community is because you know exactly what happens to people who do — it is what is happening to me right now. I understand that. It is because of the fear I see in so many people, including so many of our students, that I felt compelled to speak out even though I knew I would pay a steep price for it.

I love this school and its students, and I want to see it thrive. I want to see a renewed commitment to free expression, viewpoint diversity, and true education. And I think the public and, in particular, the Grace community deserve to know that these concerns are not mine alone.

Sincerely,
Paul

https://www.fairforall.org/content/grace-church-whistleblower/dear-george-letter.pdf (https://www.fairforall.org/content/grace-church-whistleblower/dear-george-letter.pdf)

Tämä menee vähän samaan sarjaan. Woke-väki canceloi Richard Dawkinsia.

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Kun kehtasikin mennä arvostelemaan wokea, esim. näin.

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QuoteRichard Dawkins FRS FRSL (born 26 March 1941)[24] is a British ethologist, evolutionary biologist, atheist thinker, and author. He is an emeritus fellow of New College, Oxford, and was the University of Oxford's Professor for Public Understanding of Science from 1995 until 2008.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 20.04.2021, 15:37:11
Quote from: zupi on 13.04.2021, 23:54:05
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students)

QuoteI Refuse to Stand By While My Students Are Indoctrinated
Children are afraid to challenge the repressive ideology that rules our school. That's why I am.
   
(...)

My administration says that these constraints on discourse are necessary to shield students from harm. But it is clear to me that these constraints serve primarily to shield their ideology from harm — at the cost of students' psychological and intellectual development.

(...)

Tiktokissa, tuossa verrattomassa tietolähteessä, taannoin eräs jenkki kertoi, että heillä alkaa olla jo koko maailman paskin koulujärjestelmä. Kukaan ei opi enää mitään. Ilman aivoimporttia Aasiasta koko talous ja yhteiskunta alkaisi kellahtaa nurin.

Tuohon kun lisää vielä koululaitoksen politisoimisen Maon malliin, niin siinä ei kohta kunnian kukko laula enää kenellekään.

Jos tuo "paskin koulujärjestelmä" pitää kutinsa, niin se on silloin yksi indikaatio lisää siitä, että Länsi on parhaillaan romahtamassa omiin typeryyksiinsä. Jenkkien tulevaisuuskin on pian kiinni pakistanilaisista insinööreistä ja vastaavista. Kohta eivät enää lentele kuuhun.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 20.04.2021, 16:51:30
Sopinee ketjun jatkoksi.
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Quote2021-04-19 United Nations Human Rights Council (https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=27004&LangID=E)

Stunningly, the Report also claims that, while there might be overt acts of racism in the UK, there is no institutional racism. The Report offers no evidence for this claim
QuoteWe urge the British government to categorically reject the findings of the Report
Kenen antamilla valtaoikeuksilla nuo määräilevät miten itsenäisen valtion tulisi toimia?

Johnsonina erottaisin Britannian lähipäivinä jostain YK:n vähemmän tunnetusta hillotolppatehtaasta :)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.04.2021, 17:06:18
Quote from: akez on 20.04.2021, 15:37:11
(...)
Tiktokissa, tuossa verrattomassa tietolähteessä, taannoin eräs jenkki kertoi, että heillä alkaa olla jo koko maailman paskin koulujärjestelmä. Kukaan ei opi enää mitään. (...)

Oppiihan ne sen, MITÄ pitää ajatella. Thomas Sowell 11 vuotta sitten:

QuoteArtificial Stupidity

(...)

People are all born ignorant but they are not born stupid. Much of the stupidity we see today is induced by our educational system, from the elementary schools to the universities. In a high-tech age that has seen the creation of artificial intelligence by computers, we are also seeing the creation of artificial stupidity by people who call themselves educators.

Educational institutions created to pass on to the next generation the knowledge, experience and culture of the generations that went before them have instead been turned into indoctrination centers to promote whatever notions, fashions or ideologies happen to be in vogue among today's intelligentsia.

(...)

It was once the proud declaration of many educators that "We are here to teach you how to think, not what to think." But far too many of our teachers and professors today are teaching their students what to think, about everything from global warming to the new trinity of "race, class and gender."

Even if all the conclusions with which they indoctrinate their students were 100 percent correct, that would still not be equipping students with the mental skills to weigh opposing views for themselves, in order to be prepared for new and unforeseeable issues that will arise over their lifetimes, after they leave the schools and colleges.

Many of today's "educators" not only supply students with conclusions, they promote the idea that students should spring into action because of these prepackaged conclusions-- in other words, vent their feelings and go galloping off on crusades, without either a knowledge of what is said by those on the other side or the intellectual discipline to know how to analyze opposing arguments.

When we see children in elementary schools out carrying signs in demonstrations, we are seeing the kind of mindless groupthink that causes adults to sign petitions they don't understand or-- worse yet-- follow leaders they don't understand, whether to the White House, the Kremlin or Jonestown.

A philosopher once said that the most important knowledge is knowledge of one's own ignorance. That is the knowledge that too many of our schools and colleges are failing to teach our young people.

(...) our classroom indoctrinators are getting students to think that they know after hearing only one side of an issue. It is artificial stupidity.

https://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2010/03/10/artificial-stupidity-n1362269 (https://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2010/03/10/artificial-stupidity-n1362269)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.04.2021, 17:35:19
Quote from: zupi on 20.04.2021, 17:06:18
Oppiihan ne sen, MITÄ pitää ajatella. Thomas Sowell 11 vuotta sitten:
QuoteArtificial Stupidity
Much of the stupidity we see today is induced by our educational system, from the elementary schools to the universities. In a high-tech age that has seen the creation of artificial intelligence by computers, we are also seeing the creation of artificial stupidity by people who call themselves educators.

Tästä on oma ketjunsa Hommassa 10 vuoden takaa. Ketjussa 153 poistausta, mutta ekalta sivulta ilmenee suuri osa oleellisuuksista.

Miksi kouluista on tullut haitallisten mokuarvojen tyrkyttäjiä?
28.08.2011
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,56819.msg767128.html#msg767128
Quote
Hyvin pitkä postaus, sisältö:

I.   Miksi valtio haluaa kontrolloida koulutusta?
II.  Institutionalisointia kehdosta hautaan
III. Kollektiivinen yhteiskunta tarvitsee kollektiivisti koulutetut kansalaiset
IV.  Koulutus on tehokkaampi ase kuin inkvisitio
V.   Vastuuhenkilöt ja heidän motivaationsa
VI.  Toimenpidesuositukset
VII. Johtopäätös
...
Lyhyt vastaus: Eliitti edistää etujaan tuottamalla yhteiskuntaan ideologista harmoniaa valtion koulutusmonopolin avulla. Niinpä opetusohjelmiin lisätään arvojen opettamista, ja niistä vähennetään sekä itsenäisen ajattelun että hyödyllisten taitojen (matematiikka, kielioppi jne) opettamista.
...
Tehtävä on yksinkertainen: tyhmennä massat sellaiselle tasolle, että ne eivät kyseenalaista epäinhimillistä työtään korporaatioissa, eivätkä etenkään aloita omia bisneksiä, joista olisi uhkaa tai haittaa eliitille.
...
    A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude. To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers.... The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing. Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth.

– Aldous Huxley, forward to "Brave New World," 1946 edition

Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.08.2011, 23:49:34
Quote from: Loppuasukas on 28.08.2011, 23:11:15
Kuinka koulut tyrkyttävät haitallisia mokuarvoja?

Opetusohjelman mukaisesti.

QuoteVoimassa olevassa opetusohjelmassa puolestaan todetaan, että "perusopetuksen arvopohjana ovat ihmisoikeudet, tasa-arvo, demokratia, luonnon monimuotoisuuden ja ympäristön elinkelpoisuuden säilyttäminen sekä monikulttuurisuuden hyväksyminen."
-- http://www.kaleva.fi/uutiset/rasismi-kitketaan-tyvesta/907524
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 22.04.2021, 21:37:56
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Surviving Communism - A conversation with Lily Tang Williams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2scuzUTh9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2scuzUTh9o)

"The typical tactic of communist marxists, is they want to install hate into your brain."

Mistä pienellä projektoinnilla päädytäänkin esim. "vihapuheen torjuntaan".
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 23.04.2021, 23:25:42
Woke-väki on niiiin väsyneitä... Tuo "do the work" sanontakin on aika vahvasti esillä tällä hetkellä (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3300198.html#msg3300198 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3300198.html#msg3300198)).

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QuoteThe phrase "I'M SO EXHAUSTED" in upper class intellectual professions comes from Social Justice activism and belongs to the same constellation of concepts as:

-emotional labor
-do the work
-triggered
-trauma
-self-care
-white fragility

So, "I'm so exhausted":


A Thread

When upper-class professionals performatively say "I'm so exhausted" they aren't saying "I did lot of physical labor today and now I'm tired"

The "exhausted" in the phrase "I'm so exhausted" is  exhaustion in terms of what woke Social Justice activists call *EMOTIONAL LABOR*

Once we know what "emotional labor" is explaining why people say "I'm so exhausted" will be simple

"Emotional labor" originally referred to having to manage one's emotions in a particular way as a part of one's work requirements

IE: being required to be polite to customers

This idea was pulled from it's original context and the meaning was expanded to include every day social interactions. Thus "emotional labor" was used to analyze the effort required to manage emotions, both others and your own, in every day relationships and social situations.


The term "emotional labor" was then co-opted by Social Justice Activists who claimed that since society was fundamentally oppressive, oppressed minorities had to do emotional and social labor just to cope with the unjust and unfair social expectations of an oppressive society.


The idea is that society places social and emotional expectations on people which force them to engage in certain social and emotional behavior whether they want to or not. According to Social Justice Activism, keeping up with these expectations is a type of emotional labor.

IE: feminists often claim patriarchy expects women to adopt the role of home-maker; a role requiring them to be sweet and happy while managing the behavior of both themselves and children, and this is a form of emotional labor women are unjustly expected to do, uncompensated

According to woke Social Justice, the White Male Cisgendered Patriarchy has placed its emotional and social norms on everyone. This means that unless you're a White Straight Cisgendered Male you're (allegedly) doing constant emotional labor just to cope with all the oppression

This is why:
-Being black is exhausting (pic 1)
-Being a Woman is exhausting (Pic 2)
-Being a non-binary sports fan is exhausting (Pic 3)
-Being trans is exhausting (Pic 4)

And also why:
-Being fat is exhausting (pic 1)
-Being a lesbian is exhausting (Pic 2)
-Being latinx is exhausting (Pic 3)
-Being pansexual is exhausting (Pic 4)

The idea is once you "wake up" to the fact society is forcing you into white cisgendered straight male ways of emotional and social engagement, then managing the expectations society is trying to force on you while you're trying to resist them takes a lot of emotional labor.

The thing to remember is that in the woke Social Justice worldview it isn't just the expectations which are exhausting. Being "woke" to the systems of social forces that oppress you and managing the expectations of those systems adds another layer of emotional labor...

that the woke person has to do as they dismantle the systems of oppression in society. They are "saving the world" and fixing society while managing all the toxic, patriarchal emotional responses society programmed into us...and they aren't even getting paid!!!

This is why upper-class professionals claim to be "exhausted."
When an upper-class professional says "I'M SO EXHAUSTED" they are claiming to be emotionally depleted from all the work they do managing all the toxic social and emotional behavior going on around them....

Both activists and upper-class professionals claim the mantle of both the victim ("I do this for free while not being compensated and I'm being oppressed") and the hero ("I'm managing all these people's emotions while fixing society and bringing about Social Justice")

Thus being exhausted is a sign someone is:
1. aware of how society *really* works and are resisting the system unlike all you sheeple.
2. Managing the toxicity of everyone around them while fixing the oppression.

Not all heroes wear capes, but all of them are exhausted.

As such "I'M SO EXHAUSTED" serves as a signal that someone is both aware of the systemic oppression, understands it, feels the weight of it, and is resisting it while managing all the toxic not-woke people who are unconsciously spewing their non-woke toxicity everywhere...

This is why it is becoming common. If you aren't exhausted, then either you don't know whats going on (you're not woke to the system, you're asleep) or you're not resisting the oppression and fixing it... if you were, you would be exhausted....just like them.

I realize there are exceptions (IE, if someone says "I just lifted weights for three hours and I'm so exhausted" they are likely just tired) but in activist and media circles this is what is going on, and this is what it means.

Thank you for reading.

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Kannattaa käydä lukaisemassa tuokin. Esiin tuodaan mm. kriittinen pedagogiikka, mikä on lähes sama kuin ketjussa aiemmin käsitelty feministinen pedagogiikka, pienillä mauste-eroilla.

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-emotional-labor/ (https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-emotional-labor/)

Edit. Pakko laittaa tämä tähän mukaan. Nykyisin P-P taitaa tosiaan olla "niin väsynyt tähän jaksamiseen"...

Pulttibois Tommy Ekblom (kaikki sketsit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceu5sJKeTfA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceu5sJKeTfA)

Ja siis vaikka tuo edellä mainittu voi tuntua toisaalta aika hauskalta, niin ei se todellakaan ole sitä. Kun tuo pähkähullu kultti-poppoo ei kaikesta "jaksamisestaan" huolimatta saa ihmisiä "herätettyä", niin he käyvät väkivaltaisiksi. Tuosta ei ole omasta mielestäni mitään epäselvyyttä. Kannattaa varautua.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.04.2021, 00:41:07
Rufolta uusi pala. Hyvää settiä. Suomen kannalta pitää vain vaihtaa kriittisen rotuteorian paikalle kriittinen teoria / pedagogiikka tai intersektionaalinen feminismi / feministinen pedagogiikka. Puhutaan kuitenkin käytännössä täysin samasta asiasta.

QuoteThe Courage of Our Convictions
How to fight critical race theory

Critical race theory is fast becoming America's new institutional orthodoxy. Yet most Americans have never heard of it—and of those who have, many don't understand it. This must change. We need to know what it is so we can know how to fight it.

To explain critical race theory, it helps to begin with a brief history of Marxism. Originally, the Marxist Left built its political program on the theory of class conflict. Karl Marx believed that the primary characteristic of industrial societies was the imbalance of power between capitalists and workers. The solution to that imbalance, according to Marx, was revolution: the workers would eventually gain consciousness of their plight, seize the means of production, overthrow the capitalist class, and usher in a new socialist society.

During the twentieth century, a number of regimes underwent Marxist-style revolutions, and each ended in disaster. Socialist governments in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, Cuba, and elsewhere racked up a body count of nearly 100 million people. They are remembered for gulags, show trials, executions, and mass starvations. In practice, Marx's ideas unleashed man's darkest brutalities.

By the mid-1960s, Marxist intellectuals in the West had begun to acknowledge these failures. They recoiled at revelations of Soviet atrocities and came to realize that workers' revolutions would never occur in Western Europe or the United States, which had large middle classes and rapidly improving standards of living. Americans in particular had never developed a sense of class consciousness or class division. Most Americans believed in the American dream—the idea that they could transcend their origins through education, hard work, and good citizenship.

But rather than abandon their political project, Marxist scholars in the West simply adapted their revolutionary theory to the social and racial unrest of the 1960s. Abandoning Marx's economic dialectic of capitalists and workers, they substituted race for class and sought to create a revolutionary coalition of the dispossessed based on racial and ethnic categories.

(...)

Critical race theory is an academic discipline, formulated in the 1990s and built on the intellectual framework of identity-based Marxism. Relegated for many years to universities and obscure academic journals, it has increasingly become the default ideology in our public institutions over the past decade. It has been injected into government agencies, public school systems, teacher training programs, and corporate human-resources departments, in the form of diversity-training programs, human-resources modules, public-policy frameworks, and school curricula.

Its supporters deploy a series of euphemisms to describe critical race theory, including "equity," "social justice," "diversity and inclusion," and "culturally responsive teaching." Critical race theorists, masters of language construction, realize that "neo-Marxism" would be a hard sell. Equity, on the other hand, sounds non-threatening and is easily confused with the American principle of equality. But the distinction is vast and important. Indeed, critical race theorists explicitly reject equality—the principle proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence, defended in the Civil War, and codified into law with the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. To them, equality represents "mere nondiscrimination" and provides "camouflage" for white supremacy, patriarchy, and oppression.

In contrast to equality, equity as defined and promoted by critical race theorists is little more than reformulated Marxism. In the name of equity, UCLA law professor and critical race theorist Cheryl Harris has proposed suspending private property rights (umm, et omista mitään mutta olet onnellinen...), seizing land and wealth, and redistributing them along racial lines (helvetin hölmöt, kaikki "jaetaan" huipulla olevalle yhdelle promillelle). Critical race guru Ibram X. Kendi, who directs the Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University, has proposed the creation of a federal Department of Antiracism. This department would be independent of (i.e., unaccountable to) the elected branches of government, and would have the power to nullify, veto, or abolish any law at any level of government and curtail the speech of political leaders and others deemed insufficiently "antiracist."

One practical result of the creation of such a department would be the overthrow of capitalism, since, according to Kendi, "In order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anti-capitalist." In other words, identity is the means; Marxism is the end.

An equity-based form of government would mean the end not only of private property but also of individual rights, equality under the law, federalism, and freedom of speech. (...)

I'm just one investigative journalist, but I've developed a database of more than 1,000 of these stories. When I say that critical race theory is becoming the operating ideology of our public institutions, I am not exaggerating—from the universities to bureaucracies to K-12 school systems, critical race theory has permeated the collective intelligence and decision-making process of American government, with no sign of slowing down.

This is a revolutionary change. When originally established, these government institutions were presented as neutral, technocratic, and oriented toward broadly held perceptions of the public good. Today, under the increasing sway of critical race theory and related ideologies, they are being turned against the American people. This isn't limited to the permanent bureaucracy in Washington, D.C., but is true as well of institutions in the states—even red states. It is spreading to county public health departments, small midwestern school districts, and more. This ideology will not stop until it has devoured all of our institutions.

So far, attempts to halt the encroachment of critical race theory have been ineffective. There are a number of reasons for this.

First, too many Americans have developed an acute fear of speaking up about social and political issues, especially those involving race. According to a recent Gallup poll, 77 percent of conservatives are afraid to share their political beliefs publicly. (...)

Second, critical race theorists have constructed their argument like a mousetrap. Disagreement with their program becomes irrefutable evidence of a dissenter's "white fragility," "unconscious bias," or "internalized white supremacy." (...)

Fourth and finally, the writers and activists who have had the courage to speak out against critical race theory have tended to address it on the theoretical level, pointing out the theory's logical contradictions and dishonest account of history. These criticisms are worthy and good, but they move the debate into the academic realm—friendly terrain for proponents of critical race theory. They fail to force defenders of this revolutionary ideology to defend the practical consequences of their ideas in the realm of politics.

No longer simply an academic matter, critical race theory has become a tool of political power. To borrow a phrase from the Marxist theoretician Antonio Gramsci, it is fast achieving cultural hegemony in America's public institutions. It is driving the vast machinery of the state and society. If we want to succeed in opposing it, we must address it politically at every level.

(...)

There are three parts to a successful strategy to defeat the forces of critical race theory: governmental action, grassroots mobilization, and an appeal to principle.

(...)

On the grassroots level, a multiracial and bipartisan coalition is emerging to fight critical race theory. Parents are mobilizing against racially divisive curricula in public schools and employees are increasingly speaking out against Orwellian reeducation in the workplace. When they see what is happening, Americans are naturally outraged that critical race theory promotes three ideas—race essentialism, collective guilt, and neo-segregation—that violate the basic principles of equality and justice. Anecdotally, many Chinese-Americans have told me that, having survived the Cultural Revolution in their former country, they refuse to let the same thing happen here.

(...)

Above all, we must have courage, the fundamental virtue required in our time: courage to stand and speak the truth, courage to withstand epithets, courage to face the mob, and courage to shrug off the scorn of elites. When enough of us overcome the fear that currently prevents so many from speaking out, the hold of critical race theory will begin to slip. And courage begets courage. It's easy to stop a lone dissenter; it's much harder to stop 10, 20, 100, 1,000, 1 million, or more who stand up together for the principles of America. Truth and justice are on our side. If we can muster the courage, we will win.

https://www.city-journal.org/how-to-fight-critical-race-theory (https://www.city-journal.org/how-to-fight-critical-race-theory)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.04.2021, 00:28:01
Tällainen twiitti-ketju osui silmiin, useammankin "seurannassa olevan henkilön" uudelleen-postaamana. Grace ei nyt sinänsä itsessäni herätä kovin suuria myötätuntoja, Gracen apuja tarvitsisi ymmärtääkseni aika lailla myös esim. monet USAn veteraanit. Ja myös todella monet ei-veteraanit. Se nyt ei ehkä olisi kuitenkaan niin coolia...

Mutta joka tapauksessa tämä on erittäin hyvä esimerkki siitä, miten vihavasurit pyrkivät ottamaan haltuunsa kaikki tietynlaista toimintaa harjoittavat organisaatiot. Ja sen jälkeen tietenkin muuttavat ne ajamaan vihavasemmistolaista agendaansa. Gracelle kymmenen pistettä ja papukaijamerkki siitä, että ajoi tuon totaalisen paskajengin tiehensä ja puhuu avoimesti sitä vastaan.

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QuoteI've wondered if it's worth sharing "my story." I'm a pretty private person so it feels weird to share. But I think it's worth it bc we all need encouragement that ordinary ppl can do something about what's happening to our country. So, why do I talk about Woke stuff?

The Woke Mob: my survival story

My husband and I co-founded a justice-oriented non-profit org 11 years ago. At the time, we knew nothing about Critical Social Justice or Critical Theory. Our motivation was to address disparities in mental health care. 1/

We'd learned that lay people (ppl without clinical training) made up the majority of trauma care providers around the world working with vulnerable populations (refugees, human trafficking survivors, etc). We wanted to help equip those lay people with good resources. 2/

We hired clinically trained mental health professionals to develop our curriculum, oversee MEL, and run the international training program. Everything went great for about 7 years. We got accolades from all the right people in academia and partnered with orgs in 50+ countries. 3/

Then a few years ago we noticed a tone shift among our program staff. They became hyper-critical of *everything.* As Executive Director, my husband felt he was always on trial. Every word and action was scrutinized. We couldn't figure out where this was coming from. 4/

We noticed shared rhetoric among the staff. Terms we heard often:
"systems of power and oppression"
"hegemony"
"marginalized identities"
"intersections"
"centering"
"deconstruct"
"knowledges"
"normativity"
Didn't understand the ideology behind it, started doing some reading. 5/

Then the open letters started. The letters always went to everyone in the org (from the graphic designer to the governing board), they always asserted vaguely that the organization was "causing harm," and they always ended with demands. We were alarmed and confused. 6/

We began having all-org sessions trying to discern what was happening and what was needed. It was quickly apparent there were no specific actions or incidents that could be deemed harmful. The accusations were always vague and abstract, about "identities", "systems," etc. 7/

What also became apparent quickly was they didn't want to resolve any real harm. They wanted control of the organization. They stated explicitly my husband was incapable of running an org that addresses trauma (an org he founded!) bc he's straight, white, male, and Christian. 8/

That's when I learned to fight. I'd been doing my homework for a while. Thanks to people like @NeilShenvi
, @ConceptualJames
, @wokal_distance
, @WokeTemple
, @D_B_Harrison
and @realchrisrufo
, I knew what we were facing. It was an attempted woke subversion of the organization. 9/

I wrote organizational position papers on how Critical Social Justice compromised our work by being in direct conflict with a number of our organizational commitments, namely, being evidence-based, valuing the individual, cultural humility, and allowing for true diversity. 10/

Maybe I shouldn't be proud of it, but I also learned to use their woke rules against them. When a staff member said I couldn't speak to a topic bc I'm straight, I told her it was wrong of her to assume about my sexuality just bc I'm married to a man. She immediately groveled. 11/

After some months, when it was clear to them we wouldn't budge, the ones making demands left "on moral grounds," accusing us of every phobia and calling the org "white supremacist." We've always partnered with ppl of every ethnicity, creed and identity, so this is laughable. 12/

Having survived an attempted power grab and character assassination by a woke mob, I'll say it's painful to be mistreated by ppl you trusted. But if you care more about maintaining your integrity than what people think or say about you, you'll emerge with your dignity intact. 13/

Don't apologize for vague accusations of "harm." It's not a fair fight. They don't want dialogue. Expose their inconsistencies - show how their demands won't achieve what they claim to care about (helping the poor, etc). It'll require some reading and a lot of courage. 14/

If you don't fight this nonsense now, wherever it's showing up in your community, there'll be nothing good, true, or beautiful to defend soon. We will be ruled by lies and power while being told we're progressing toward truth and justice. 15/

Open war is upon us, there is no "safe" any more. Choose which kind of "unsafe" you want. Fighting lies is always preferable to being ruled by them. I believe they can be defeated. I believe the truth will prevail.

Thanks for reading my story, I'd love to hear yours. 16/16

Perään vielä tämä. Tuosta twiittiketjusta löytyy kaikki Rufon jutut vihavasemmiston koulumädätyksestä USAssa. Monet ovat olleet täällä esillä. Rapakon tällä puolella nuo perkeleet osaavat asian paremmin: Ei pidä jättää mitään kirjallisia todisteita (tai verratkaa esim. Biden vs. Merkel, molemmat ihan samalla asialla). Mutta itse olen kyllä melkoisen vakuuttunut siitä, että Suomessakin on jo hyvin paljon opettajia, jotka ovat täysin tuon kulttihulluuden kourissa, ja tunkevat sitä täysillä lasten kurkusta alas. Muistakaa, mikä oli opettajien reaktio ps-nuorten "ilmiantokampanjaan"...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 28.04.2021, 10:21:28
Tulee aina välillä mieleen kun lukee noista woke-hihhuleista jotka syyttävät kaikesta mahdollisesta kryptisillä intersektionaalisilla käsitteillään, että pitäisikö niille vaan vastata että "nyt sun ote taitaa vähän lipsua, kun unohdit syyttää minua myös neuvostovastaiseksi taantumukselliseksi porvariksi ja luokkaviholliseksi" ...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 30.04.2021, 00:47:19
Peter Boghossianin lyhyt kirjoitus wokeistien totalitarismista, reilun vuoden takaa. Tuolloin ei oltu asiaa vielä nimetty kriittiseksi sosiaaliseksi oikeudeksi.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/02/illiberalism-social-justice/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/02/illiberalism-social-justice/)

QuoteThe Illiberalism of Social Justice

Social Justice is a dangerous, illiberal ideology that is taking over society. Although often associated with "liberalism" in the United States, it is explicitly anti-liberal. (...)

One of the easiest ways to understand how illiberal Social Justice can be is available to anyone who attempts to criticize it. Those who criticize Social Justice are not thanked for helping to improve its tenets. Rather, they're called bigots, homophobes, Nazis, grifters, misogynists, or, the trump card meant to silence all conversation: racists.

Proving its commitment to illiberalism even further, when the accused denies these accusations and demands evidence to substantiate claims that they're racist, this denial is taken as evidence of guilt. To ask for evidence of racism is considered a form of willful ignorance of racism, according to Social Justice. Then, when the accused points out the obvious, that name calling isn't an argument and they'd like to have a conversation about the manifestation of Social Justice that led them to be accused in the first place, nobody comes forward to converse. In the Social Justice ideological paradigm, conversing with someone who's been accused of being a racist, sexist, or bigot would be acting in complicity with racism. (There's even a word in their lexicon for this, "platforming.") So conversation is a priori ruled out.

But Social Justice's illiberalism is actually far worse. In many situations, because nobody comes forward to speak with the accused—in spite of the fact that he has pleaded with adherents and enforcers of Social Justice ideology to have a conversation—a narrative is then constructed that paints the accused as someone who does not want to have a conversation with anyone with whom he disagrees. Moreover, this is often reframed as the accused being unwilling to have a conversation about racism!

And this is exactly what has happened to me. (...)

The unwillingness of Social Justice adherents to speak with me—or others who challenge their doctrines—does not stop them from accusing me of not wanting to speak with them. In fact, it escalates those accusations. This is because the primary method of Social Justice is to accuse, whether true or false, sensible or insensible, and to manipulate everything that follows into further accusations.

Sadly, this is exactly the response one would predict given that Social Justice ideology is highly aggressive, intrinsically political, and completely in conflict with science, evidence, and reason. If it were backed by science, evidence, and reason, science evidence and reason would be presented in conversation and there would be no need to call anyone names or accuse people who want to have conversations of not wanting to have conversations. The Social Justice canons would also not need to build an infrastructure that insulates itself from criticism and uses name calling and accusation as the primary tool to dispense its ideological enemies. Rather, it would encourage dialogue, conversation, and even debate. Instead, it sees discourse not as an effective means for determining truth but as yet another political project to oppress people.

Social Justice cannot continue to be taken seriously on its own terms, which it has literally made up. It must be taken seriously in terms of the threat it poses to liberal and civil society, which it is actively undermining and seeks to destroy. (...)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.05.2021, 00:28:07
Vähän erilainen kirjoitus Lindsaylta.

QuoteA Manifesto for the Based

When Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, author of The Gulag Archipelago, gave in his Noble Lecture the credo, "Let the lie come into the world. Let it even triumph. But not through me," that was based. Not participating in transparent lies or mass delusion is based. Doing so against the madness of the following crowd is based. Nearly everything that it means to be based is either contained within or predicated upon this one trait of character.

Solzhenitsyn wrote those words as a result of his observations living in what may have been the most brutal tyranny of human history: Stalin's USSR. That simplest of refusals—the refusal to lie on command, or even to fit in—is, in the end, the summary of his observations of what kind of people had what it took to resist a totalitarian regime. Keeping your head down while you hope the unconscionable blows over, say, so you can keep your job but none of your dignity, is not based.

(...)

Though, for the moment, better conditions generally prevail in our day-to-day lives in our teetering Western liberal democratic republics, we have also found ourselves in yet another period in human history when the many millions believe—or at least pretend to believe—outright, transparent lies about the nature of reality, both social and material. What's more, our elites and the institutions they command have taken the repetition and promulgation of these lies as sure marks of both status and, believe it or not, sanity. That is, once again the lie is coming into the world, and we have been forced to ask ourselves: will it triumph?

That's an open question, and its answer depends, in turn, upon the answer to the more personal question Solzhenitsyn answered firmly in the negative. Will it come through me? The fate of the future of Western Civilization and Mankind may well hang in the balance of how that question gets answered, and by who, and how many. That is, its answer depends on how many people are willing to get based and stay that way.

The risk is in a peculiar way perverse. If lots of us get based, there's very little risk to any of us. On the other hand, if only a few of us do, the risk is immense. (...)

To me, then, there's just one option. It's time to get based and help other people get based. It's time for based nation. It's time for a based movement.

Before we begin on such an ambitious venture, however, the origin of the term "based" should be addressed forthrightly because it is profoundly limiting and, in fact, something that prevents being properly and fully based. The term arose online in talking about various ideas that might justify biological racism and referenced being unafraid to say those things because they are politically unfashionable. It arose in being intentionally, and often crudely, politically anti-correct. It arose, frankly, in crowds rightly identified as being "alt-right." One could say it has expanded from there into something mostly more commendable. (...)

Now we can begin. To be based, simply enough, begins with being willing to speak your mind and state objectively true facts about the world even when people don't like you for it. It means neither lying nor apologizing just because the crowd expects you to, least of all under the absurd implication that doing so makes you more virtuous and brave. (...)

Put another way, fitting to our contemporary circumstances, being based is the opposite of being Woke. Woke is wholly intolerant of everything but itself. It, because it is cynical of every motivation, it never acts in good faith. It brings down every mood and celebrates the worthless and the ugly so long as these take no shame in themselves for being worthless and ugly. Woke forgiveness is impossible because, to the Woke, forgiveness would justify the sin. It demands absolute conformity and tolerates no dissent. It defines hypersensitivity, elevates it as a virtue, and, as a result, is always throwing a tantrum.

Obviously, Solzhenitsyn wasn't writing about the Woke in The Gulag Archipelago, but what he was writing about was another species in the same totalitarian genus. (...)

There are, in the end, only two things that can tear such a regime down, and they are, as it happens, interrelated. They are the two most powerful weapons against tyranny in the human arsenal: telling the truth, including by refusing the lie, and laughter. Both are based, and to win both are necessary. (...)

Humor isn't necessary but is the key to being truly based. Absurdity must be exposed, and no acid is more corrosive to the absurdity of tyranny than laughter pointed in its general direction. So, while being based begins with being unapologetic in yourself and the truth, whatever anyone thinks, it does this ideally while being funny. (...)

(...)

In fact, the subversive humor of being based is what makes being based so open instead of being closed. It is by its very nature irreverent and sometimes crude, but it always punches up, as they say. (...)

To strike a more philosophical tone, being based means having common sense in a postmodern context. Like it or not, "Postmodernity" is the name for the time in which we live. It's a time of images, corporate gloss, and a certain imposed detachment from the real. (...)

To put that somewhat more seriously, the difference between being based and being Woke is the difference between laughter and shame. (...)

(...) Humor washes away the absurd in a tide of laughter and leaves behind what's real and what really matters—that's based. Shame doesn't. It just knocks everything over in its ridiculous attempt to prove that it's the only thing that isn't absurd—so not based; totally cringe, in fact. That is, humor is gentle while shame is crude, and humor is alive where shame is afraid to live. This is why the based roll with the joke. This is why the Woke laugh at nothing. It's because they have no base.

Tyranny is knocking, and we need to get based. Solzhenitsyn told us what it would take to stand up to the end of the world, and what it boils down to is being based—and being based for our times. Our times are absurd, but this doesn't diminish the threat. Still, in the end, there's nothing new under this yellow Sun, and, as ever, the truly absurd cannot possibly abide people who completely refuse to take them seriously. The future, then, belongs to the based, not to the clowns. That future is ours because the future is based.

Freedom is ours for the taking. The lies are coming into the world, and, for the moment, they have begun to triumph. Lord, though, are they funny. Being based is little more, then, than a laughing refusal to be pushed around by the preposterous. It's a refusal to go along with the crowd when the crowd has gone mad. While many people seem to realize that there is some problem, only the based realize not only that its safer and healthier to break away, but that it's also hilarious. The based aren't about to live by ridiculous lies because they'll be too busy laughing the bottom out from under them.

https://newdiscourses.com/2021/05/manifesto-for-the-based/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2021/05/manifesto-for-the-based/)

Heitellään vielä vähän vastaan tulleita twiittejä kyytipojaksi.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.05.2021, 00:29:42
https://newdiscourses.com/2020/10/schools-teaching-kids-social-justice/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/10/schools-teaching-kids-social-justice/)

QuoteWhy Schools Are Teaching Our Kids "Social Justice"

(...)

The mission of Critical Social Justice, to use its right name, is to "awaken" people to the so-called "realities" of systemic oppression in society, as it defines it—thus, "woke." People who are woke are people who have been trained to see systemic oppression in a particular way, which has been outlined in an otherwise obscure branch of philosophy known as Critical Theory. Speaking formally, the Woke are people who have developed a "critical consciousness" about the identity-based systems of power that are alleged to permeate and define all of society, creating profound and almost intractable injustices that must be "disrupted and dismantled" to achieve "liberation." The goal of "anti-racist," "culturally aware," and "social justice" approaches to education is to awaken a critical consciousness in our children so that they will grow up not to think critically but to think in terms of Critical Theories.

To understand why this isn't just a problem but an incredibly alarming one requires understanding how the Critical Theories in Critical Social Justice see the world. That is, you have to understand what your kids will be "woke up" to in their classrooms.

To take the issue of race, Critical Race Theory begins with the assumption that racism is ordinary in our societies and present in all interactions and social and cultural phenomena, and it is up to the Critical Race Theorist—using a Woke critical consciousness—to "make it visible" and "call it out." In Critical Race Theory, the question is not "did racism take place?" but rather, "how did racism manifest in that situation?"

Rather than learning how to do mathematics, then, your children will be taught to ask questions like how mathematics is used to maintain racial oppression—for it must, according to Critical Race Theory. This is precisely the sort of curriculum that we already see in the Ethnic Studies program in the state of Washington and its "ethnomathematics" project. Rather than focusing on the mechanics of mathematics, students will be taught to focus on the ways they can explore topics like racism and oppression through mathematics, or leaning on math as a foil that facilitates discussions on important topics—like "who it benefits" to focus on getting right answers in mathematics.

Other subjects will be similar, if not worse. A Critical Theory approach to studying American history will be dedicated to making students woke to all of the ways the United States, from its founding, has been an unjust, oppressive nation that systemically oppresses certain identity groups. (...)

Indeed, many such programs will claim that the United States was founded intentionally on genocide, slavery, and a principle of white supremacy and anti-Blackness that has never been repaired. Its legacy is white privilege and white comfort that must be challenged at every opportunity if we are ever to achieve racial equity. (...)

Bringing Critical Social Justice into our educational systems is therefore not beneficent or benign. It is a deliberate attempt to try to program our children to think in an explicitly cynical, pessimistic, and falsely sociological way about all matters relevant to identity in every possible subject, including our history and even science and mathematics. The goal is to make our children woke, to give them a critical consciousness with which they will, unlike their parents, know that the point of understanding society is to change it in a very narrow and increasingly divisive way.

Ja alla esimerkki siitä, mitä nuo harhaan johdetut ja aivopestyt, aikuisiksi (biologisessa mielessä) kasvaneet lapset sitten pyrkivät tekemään.

https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/6764 (https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/6764)

QuoteKansalaisaloitteen otsikko
Antirasistiset strategiat ja kriittinen näkökulma opintosuunnitelmiin


(...)

Antirasistiset strategiat ja kriittinen näkökulma käsittelisi syvällisemmin esimerkiksi:

1. Rasismia käsitteenä
2. Systemaattista ja rakenteellista rasismia, joka on lainsäädännön tai erilaisten instituutioiden käytäntöjen avulla toteutettua rasismia. Mahdollisia ilmenemismuotoja ovat käytäntöihin ja sääntöihin perustuva rasismi esimerkiksi sosiaali- ja terveydenhuollossa, oppilaitoksissa tai työelämässä. Siihen kuuluu myös mm. aiheeton liiallinen huomion kiinnittäminen vähemmistöryhmien edustajiin julkisissa paikoissa virkamiesten toimesta.
3. Kulttuurierojen ymmärtämistä ja kulttuurirasismia käsittelisi uskoja ja luuloja luonteenominaisuuksista, jotka ovat läpi historian olleet sidoksissa tiettyihin "rotuihin". Kulttuurirasismilla ja "muukalaispelolla" on pitkä historia, jota tulisi kurssin yhteydessä käydä läpi.
4. Tiedostamattomia micro-aggressioita ja rasismi vähemmistöjä kohtaan
- ennakkoluulot, jotka estävät samaistumasta toisen kokemaan kipuun.
- tällaisiin tutkimuksiin perehtyminen kuten italialaistutkimus
5. Rasismin historiallinen näkökulma mm.
- orjuus
- Massamurhat
- Rotusorto
- Valkoinen ylivoima
6. Kriittinen näkökulma:

Vastuullista ajattelua, joka on valmis vuorovaikutukseen muiden kanssa. Aktiivinen yhteiskunnallinen toiminta, jossa tarkastellaan erilaisista näkökulmista kasvatuksen ja yhteiskunnan kriittistä erittelyä, sekä moraalista arviointia. Tämä näkökulma tarkastelee myös ajattelu- ja toimintavälineiden kehittelytyötä, joilla voidaan kyseenalaistaa vakiintuneita oletuksia. Näin ollen antaa myös valmiutta arvioida uudelleen omia käsityksiään ja ajattelutapoja ja myös korjata niitä. Kriittinen ajattelija tunnistaa myös käsittelemänsä asian kokoanaiskuvasta erityispiirteet.
(Lähde 9; Mikkonen, 2018)

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Tuo on kyllä ehkä kaikkien aikojen pahin sananraiskaus ja kaikista naurettavin näiden wokeistien väittämistä, kun he sanovat edustavansa jonkinlaista "kriittistä ajattelua"...  :facepalm: Ja vieläpä oikein hakevat "vuorovaikutusta muiden kanssa"...  :o
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.05.2021, 18:36:06
Samaan aiheeseen liittyen parikin kirjoitusta, ja vähän muutakin.

QuoteWhy Power Is Getting Woke
The point of politicizing everything is to make you forget what real politics is.

The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations is one of the nation's top diplomats, second only to the Secretary of State.  (...)

(...) What on earth could possess America's UN ambassador to decide to broadcast the message that America is a deeply racist country down to its bones? Even if you were to accept some, or maybe even all, of what she's saying as being true, what sort of powerful incentives could convince a top diplomat to engage in a highly controversial debate that not only has nothing to do with her job, but is in fact quite literally the opposite of her job description? How did we get here?

Wokeness isn't radical, it's repressive

One thing to know about Ambassador Thomas-Greenfield is that she isn't exactly a radical activist storming the gates of power. She is power. (...)

But perhaps an even better example of this phenomenon is the very man who appointed Thomas-Greenfield: President Biden. In the nearly half century he spent in political office before assuming the presidency, Joe Biden wasn't exactly known for being a social justice crusader. (...) But that all now seems to have completely reversed: It feels as if not a day goes by where Biden isn't heard decrying the country's "systemic racism" while branding every new initiative as a step toward achieving the newly fashionable concept of "equity."

And while he might be the most high profile (and perhaps most consequential) example, Biden's overnight conversion characterizes a broader elite "awokening" that seems to have infected nearly an entire leadership class. What could explain all of it?

It's extremely common to find critics of "wokeness" and critical race theory decrying it as a radical activist- and academic-driven plot to upend the basic foundations of American society. And while it certainly does like to present itself that way, and is even believed to be exactly that by its most true believers, it's an analysis that fails to explain why every Fortune 500 company, establishment politician, media executive, and entertainer has become an evangelist for these ideas. After all, radicalism is about threatening and upending existing power structures. What we're seeing now is quite the opposite. Far from seeing these ideas as a threat, the existing power structure is enthusiastically adopting them as something of a ruling class ideology. So unless you think all of these people are critical theory sleeper cells who are just now being awakened to carry out a plot decades in the making, the more likely explanation is that not only are these ideas compatible with power, but something about them must actually lend themselves to protecting and even enhancing that power. In other words, it's an ideology that seems much more suited not to radicalism, but to the opposite: repression.

The privatization of politics

One of the most conspicuous things about woke politics is that it politicizes everything. It inserts politics into every space, interaction, and relationship. It problematizes, deconstructs, and dismantles. It calls out and it cancels. And above all, it personalizes politics. (...)

Woke politics makes politics less about what powerful people do, and more about what everyone does. (...)

(...) Maybe the point of politicizing everything is to make you forget what actual politics is?

The "awokening" of our elites is also an unburdening

(...) Where public servants once faced politics as a force for accountability, they can increasingly now passively preside over a country as it educates itself, recognizes its privilege, and "reckons" with its past. Corporations that once existed in a fundamental tension with a political sphere that had the power to regulate them now see that sphere contracted to make way for a privatized political realm that requires them only to emblazon the latest slogan on their marketing materials. Celebrities who once faced scrutiny for their impact on mass culture and can now easily plug into the latest hashtag and effortlessly assume the mantle of moral influencer.

Instead of antagonizing power and holding it to account, wokeness makes it invisible. It flattens everyone, elite and not, into fellow participants in a national religion, one in which those with power merely serve as a ceremonial priesthood whose sole responsibility is to ensure faithful observance. The great "awokening" of America's elites is also something of a great unburdening — an unburdening from the responsibilities, accountability, and scrutiny that comes with power. Ultimately, it's an unburdening of a leadership class from a country and its people. The question is: Can any country survive that?

To be continued.

https://www.inquiremore.com/p/why-power-is-getting-woke (https://www.inquiremore.com/p/why-power-is-getting-woke)

Alla olevat jutut liittyy tähän CIA:n mainosvideoon:

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QuoteCIA Embraces Left-Wing Ideology, Leftists Deny That This Is Happening
   
In a mind-blowing marketing video first published on March 25, but which had escaped widespread notice until recent days, the CIA enthusiastically endorsed several key tenets of what has now indisputably become a hegemonic left/liberal ideological and rhetorical construct

(...)

Whenever they are confronted with the reality that their rhetorical stylings are being aped across the entire country's power centers, now including the Intelligence Community, left-wing activists and journalists tend to angrily disclaim any culpability. The CIA's decision to institutionally pronounce itself a wellspring of "intersectionality," they'll insist, is all fake and cynical co-optation.

However, this isn't so much a "co-optation" as it is a natural evolution of Woke Ideology's imperatives. The CIA can easily adopt something approximating an "intersectional" attitude toward racial, gender, gender identity-related oppressions and continue on with its ordinary mission. In fact, the adoption of this rhetoric could enhance its mission by strengthening its domestic cultural cachet. Say John Brennan is a true believer in intersectionality doctrine — which definitely is not out of the question — and truly believes the CIA can help carry out its goals. What then?

Asserting some discontinuity between these concepts' newfound universal popularity and left-wing activism makes no sense. Is there any more potent left-wing belief in circulation at the moment than that of "intersectional" oppressions, and their all-pervasive, defining influence on American life? All the CIA is doing is signaling its eagerness to partake in the ideological project of dismantling these alleged oppressions. In a way, this is a true victory for the Activist Left — the potency of whose beliefs are gaining purchase at a spellbinding pace, probably never more rapidly than in the past year.

But instead of interrogating why it is that the rhetorical and ideological paradigm they've relentlessly promoted fits so easily within the country's most powerful institutions, from Wall Street banks to the Big Tech monopolies to the CIA, left-wing activists and journalists will often petulantly change the subject. After I commented on the "Woke CIA" video yesterday via Twitter, hardcore radical Rage Against the Machine frontman Tom Morello came out of nowhere to accuse me of denying the "evils" of past CIA actions — such as assassinations and coups — and acting like the "real problem" with the CIA is their sudden practice of distributing so-called "woke pamphlets."

I'm reading a very illuminating book right now (not a pamphlet) that details numerous largely-forgotten brutal CIA transgressions, such as a covert 1958 mission which resulted in the bombing of a market and a church on Ambon Island, Indonesia, obliterating civilians. Anyone unfamiliar with this and other chapters in CIA history should "educate" themselves, and perhaps that will help them understand what the boldly subversive left-wing guitar player evidently doesn't — which is that "Woke Ideology" is perfectly compatible with the CIA's institutional prerogative to further entrench its own power.

That history makes it doubly absurd for liberals (and, albeit more tacitly, leftists) to have been so tolerant of CIA interventions into domestic political affairs because their short-term political objectives (disabling and ousting Trump) happened to align. Now, they seem angrier with those who point out the self-evident absurdity of this CIA marketing tactic than with the tactic itself. Maybe that's because they've been prime movers in creating the political conditions under which adopting such tactics is considered shrewd.

Liberals and leftists have to constantly run around disclaiming that their beliefs, aesthetics, and speech codes have become hegemonic because posturing as beleaguered, noble outsiders is fundamental to their self-conception. As one Twitter commenter put it to me, "My view is that the CIA has looked at the beliefs of those coming out of elite schools and decided this is how they have to pitch to them." Well... yeah.

Many don't find it interesting or worthy of comment that ideological prescriptions and rhetorical formulations once largely relegated to Tumblr and obscure academic circles have migrated to the highest levels of the US intelligence apparatus within a matter of years. They should feel free to keep screeching into the void online, while others attempt to critically evaluate this culture-upheaving phenomenon.

https://mtracey.substack.com/p/cia-embraces-left-wing-ideology-leftists (https://mtracey.substack.com/p/cia-embraces-left-wing-ideology-leftists)

Aiheeseen liittyen, Greenwald Tuckerin haastattelussa:

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Heitetään vielä tämä twiittiketjukin, voi tuota wokstereiden ja valtamädän "kaunista" rakkaustarinaa...

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QuoteThis is repulsive. The Intercept was founded during the Snowden story to defend privacy rights & oppose the security state. Now, the liberal DNC hacks who "edit" it are boasting they got personal data from Gab users & are sorting through it, doing FBI's work to find "extremists."

Bold Adversarial Journalism: serving as mouthpieces for the CIA and acting as monitoring cops for the FBI. Liberal political hacks ruin everything. The Intercept is shit.

The people who run the Intercept now had nothing to do with its founding -- they just leech off those who did -- and are authoritarian shit liberals so this is what they do. They only saving grace is that outside like 3 writers, nobody reads that rag:
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 06.05.2021, 20:37:44
Yksi tämän ideologian iskusana on "yhdenvertaisuus". Se on niin suosittu, että on valunut jo mainoksiinkin. DNA mainostaa nykyään olevansa "digitaalisen yhdenvertaisuuden puolesta". 50 vuotta sitten eli 1970-luvulla olisi mainostettu "digitaalista vallankumousta".

Vaan mitä se yhdenvertaisuus on. No sehän on positiivista syrjintää, parhaimmillaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.05.2021, 22:14:55
Quote from: zupi on 05.05.2021, 00:29:42
Tuo on kyllä ehkä kaikkien aikojen pahin sananraiskaus ja kaikista naurettavin näiden wokeistien väittämistä, kun he sanovat edustavansa jonkinlaista "kriittistä ajattelua"...  :facepalm:

Tämä kriittisyys periytynee Frankfurtin koulukunnan "critical theory"sta, joka siis oli kriittinen vain ja pelkästään
- kaikenlaista sivistystä,
- länsimaista kulttuuria,
- rationaalisuutta,
- tervettä järkeä,
- johdonmukaisuutta,
- standardeja,
- faktoja,
- selkeää viestintää,
- ongelmanratkaisua  ja
- tieteellistä ajattelua kohtaan.

Kyseessä on siis yksinkertaisesti kaiken järjen hylkääminen, ja taantuminen eläimen tasolle.

Tämä frankfurttilaisten "kriittisyys" taas on täydellinen vastakohta oikealle "critical thinking"ille, josta wikipediassa ei ole edes suomenkielistä artikkelia!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking

QuoteCritical thinking is the analysis of facts to form a judgment. ... definitions ... generally include the rational, skeptical, unbiased analysis, or evaluation of factual evidence. Critical thinking is self-directed, self-disciplined, self-monitored, and self-corrective thinking. It presupposes assent to rigorous standards of excellence and mindful command of their use. 
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.05.2021, 22:19:41
Wokemädätystä ja kommunismin ihannointia joka helvetin paikassa.

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QuoteSCOOP: The Walt Disney Corporation claims that America was founded on "systemic racism,"  encourages employees to complete a "white privilege checklist," and separates minorities into racially-segregated "affinity groups."

I've obtained internal documents that will shock you.

According to a trove of whistleblower materials, Disney has launched a "diversity and inclusion" program, called "Reimagine Tomorrow," which includes trainings on "systemic racism," "white privilege," "white fragility," "white saviors," "microaggressions," and "antiracism."

Disney claims that America has a "long history of systemic racism and transphobia" and tells employees they must "take ownership of educating yourself about structural anti-Black racism" and "not rely on your Black colleagues to educate you," which is "emotionally taxing."

White employees are told to "work through feelings of guilt, shame, and defensiveness to understand what is beneath them and what needs to be healed." They must "listen with empathy [to] Black colleagues" and "not question or debate Black colleagues' lived experience."

Disney tells employees they should reject "equality," or "equal treatment," and instead strive for "equity," or "the equality of outcome." They must "reflect" on America's "racist infrastructure" and "think carefully about whether or not [their] wealth" is derived from racism.

Disney sponsored the creation of a "21-Day Racial Equity and Social Justice Challenge" and recommended it to employees. The challenge begins with a lesson on "systemic racism" and tells participants they have "all been raised in a society that elevates white culture over others."

Next, participants are asked to complete a "white privilege checklist": "I am white," I am heterosexual," "I am a man," "I still identity as the gender I was born in," "I have never been raped," "I don't rely on public transportation," and "I have never been called a terrorist."

Finally, participants are told they must "pivot" from "white dominant culture" to "something different." The document claims that "competition," "individualism," "timeliness," and "comprehensiveness" are "white dominant" values that "perpetuate white supremacy culture."

Disney recommends that employees read a how-to guide called "75 Things White People Can Do for Racial Justice." The article tells readers to "defund the police," "participate in reparations," "decolonize your bookshelf," and "find and join a local 'white space.'"

Finally, Disney has launched racially-segregated "affinity groups" for minority employees, with the goal of achieving "culturally-authentic insights." The Latino group was named "Hola," the Asian group was named "Compass," and the black group was named "Wakanda."

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Tuleeko jollekin muullekin mieleen lause "et omista mitään mutta olet onnellinen"... Tai itket ja olet onnellinen...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 12.05.2021, 13:03:42
Quote from: zupi on 08.05.2021, 22:19:41

QuoteSCOOP: The Walt Disney Corporation claims that America was founded on "systemic racism,"  encourages employees to complete a "white privilege checklist," and separates minorities into racially-segregated "affinity groups."

I've obtained internal documents that will shock you.

(...)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.05.2021, 17:18:39
Tällä tavalla USA:ssa.

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QuoteSpace Force officer relieved of post after denouncing Marxist ideology and critical race theory in military: Report

A commander in the United States Space Force was apparently relieved from his post after appearing on a podcast to promote his book, which asserts a neo-Marxist agenda is transforming military culture and policy.

"Lt. Gen. Stephen Whiting, Space Operations Command commander, relieved Lt. Col. Matthew Lohmeier of command of the 11th Space Warning Squadron, Buckley Air Force Base, Colorado, May 14, due to loss of trust and confidence in his ability to lead," the Space Force said in a statement to the Washington Examiner.

(...)

Lohmeier self-published Irresistible Revolution: Marxism's Goal of Conquest & the Unmaking of the American Military this week. The book, according to the description, explores the "impact of a neo-Marxist agenda" and the manner in which the "Black Lives Matter movement, anti-racism, postmodernism, [and] political correctness" affect the national security of the United States.

Lohmeier said that he had informed his superiors, public affairs staff, and lawyers for the military about the book prior to publication, but it was not subject to a pre-publication review.

(...)

"My intent never has been to engage in partisan politics. I have written a book about a particular political ideology (Marxism) in the hope that our Defense Department might return to being politically nonpartisan in the future as it has honorably done throughout history," he told Military.com.

The Air Force Academy graduate appeared on the podcast Information Operation last week to publicize the book, in which he criticized Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin's diversity and inclusion "agenda."

"I don't demonize the man, but I want to make it clear to both him and every service member this agenda — it will divide us. It will not unify us, " Lohmeier said.

(...)

"The diversity, inclusion and equity industry and the trainings we are receiving in the military ... is rooted in critical race theory, which is rooted in Marxism," Lohmeier said.  (...)

Lohmeier added that conservatives in the military who are willing to voice their opinions are painted as "extremists."

"What you see happening in the U.S. military at the moment is that if you're a conservative, then you're lumped into a group of people who are labeled extremists, if you're willing to voice your views. And if you're aligned with the Left, then it's OK to be an activist online because no one's gonna hold you accountable," he said.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/space-force-officer-relieved-from-post-after-criticism-critical-race-theory-marxism (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/space-force-officer-relieved-from-post-after-criticism-critical-race-theory-marxism)

Ja tällä tavalla UK:ssa.

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QuoteStudent investigated for saying women must have vaginas

A law student who said that women have vaginas and are not as physically strong as men is being investigated by her university.

Disciplinary action is being taken against Lisa Keogh, 29, over "offensive" and "discriminatory" comments that she made during lectures at Abertay University, Dundee.

The mature student was reported by younger classmates after she said women were born with female genitals and that "the difference in physical strength of men versus women is a fact". The complaints have prompted a formal investigation into her conduct.

Keogh, a final-year student, fears that any sanction could end her dream of becoming a human rights lawyer. (...)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/student-investigated-for-saying-women-must-have-vaginas-3tnl0f9wb (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/student-investigated-for-saying-women-must-have-vaginas-3tnl0f9wb)
(loput maksumuurin takana)

No, Suomessahan tuollaisesta toiminnasta olisi varmaan vielä saanut valtakunnansyyttäjänkin kimppuunsa.

Edit. Ja tällaista Kanadassa. Täysin sairasta sakkia. Mutta lapsethan ne tietenkin ihan itse ja oma-aloitteisesti tekevät sellaisen päätelmän, että oikeastaan he ovatkin toista sukupuolta, ja tätä päätelmää kaikkien pitää kunnioittaa, vaikka lapsista onkin kyse...  :silakka:  >:(

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QuoteA school counsellor in Canada has been indoctrinating a 13-year-old girl into believing she's trans.

She continues to try to undermine the parents and communicate with the girl, even after dad talked to the school principal, revoking permission for her to talk to their daughter.

The girl told the school counsellor she does not want to talk to her.

Not satisfied, the counsellor tried to officially change the girl's screen name for all of the online classrooms.

That didn't work either, so now the counsellor has gone and changed the name of the school's GSA (Gay Straight Alliance) to 'Wellness Group' so that parents won't know their child is part of it.

Incredibly, the school counsellor also reached out to the girl after this to give her the number for the Kids Help Phone.

I have spoken at length with the mom. She's as sweet and kind and supportive as can be.

The parents have been completely blindsided by all of this.

This is a 13-year-old child once again being confused by school indoctrination and pressure to alienate her from her parents.

The daughter's 'non-binary' friend has stated she wants to curb-stomp the parents.

The parents have hired a proper therapist, and the school principal has been made aware of the online school groups where this grooming is occurring.

Future attempts from this school counsellor to communicate with their daughter will be met with legal action.

https://twitter.com/christophelston/status/1393990442400636929 (https://twitter.com/christophelston/status/1393990442400636929)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.05.2021, 23:23:54
En tiedä, miten paljon uutta tuossa on Hommalaisille, mutta ihan hyvä ketju joka tapauksessa.

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Quote1/13] The Swedes have a word, "fredsskadade", meaning "injured by peace", where a society has been prosperous & peaceful for so long that it somehow hurts them. Handicaps them. Debilitates their thinking.

2/13] Those immigrants are behaving badly? Or simply behaving according to their cultural norms? It's not that those cultural norms are wrong/illiberal/oppressive. It's that WE are oppressive. We must have done something to cause them to behave this way.

3/13] It's not uncommon thinking. Pelle Neroth Taylor describes this thinking in his documentary "Dying to be Multicultural" (on YouTube). Göran Adamson in his book "The Trojan Horse: A Leftist critique of Multiculturalism in the West".

4/13] The real world (sexist cultures, racist cultures, religious extremism, tribalism) hit Sweden hard. And they had no tools to deal with it other than to blame themselves. And so they did, severely.

5/13] The Woke are particularly prone to this thinking. Their demographic in the US/Canada often mirrors Swedes as a whole: native-born, middle/upper-middle class, university educated, privileged, sheltered, naïve. Romanticizers of third-world cultures they know little about.

6/13] The Woke are seldom immigrants from 2nd or 3rd-world countries.

But the anti-Woke often are: @seerutkchawla, Flag of India @ayaan, Flag of Somalia @Gadsaad. Flag of Lebanon They have not been fredsskadade, injured by peace, like so many in the West. They understand the virtues of The West, of true liberalism.

7/13] Very few of The Woke have spent any significant time outside their own country. Sure they studied abroad in London & spent a week in rural Guatemala marveling at the colorful indigenous clothing and exotic food. But did they spend years? Almost never.

8/13] Their cosmopolitanism is a "parochial cosmopolitanism" (@DouglasKMurray). A cultural cheerleading. Otherwise they'd see that the West as it truly is: the least oppressive societies in the the history of the world. Societies that needs to be improved, not torn down.

9/13] And certainly not "Patriarchal" or "rape cultures". You want a patriarchal rape culture? Go to rural Pakistan. Or rural Guatemala. Or indigenous Guatemala for that matter.

10/13] The Woke won't do that. They reserve their criticism for "the powerful". Which damages the cause of truly oppressed women. Read @YasMohammedxx's "Unveiled: How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam" or @Ayaan's Prey: Immigration, Islam, and the Erosion of Women's Rights".

11/13] But for The Woke, it's only partially about helping the oppressed. It's more about virtue, and the new #VirtueCulture. Hence their silence on Islam, women in Muslim countries, immigrant patriarchal norms, Islam-rooted anti-Semitism in Europe, etc.

12/13] For all their talk about "diversity", The Woke are an enormously non-diverse group: university-educated, privileged mostly-White folks from Western countries with little experience with the real world.

But with lots of big ideas about the real world.

13/13] And those big ideas – from naïve, insular, parochial cosmopolitans – are going to do a lot of damage.

https://twitter.com/WokeTemple/status/1393917900264820737 (https://twitter.com/WokeTemple/status/1393917900264820737)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 21.05.2021, 00:48:25
Parempi myöhään kuin ei milloinkaan... Jari Ehrnrooth tilittää wokeismista.

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/varokaa-tata-uusvasemmistolaista-ansaa/ (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/varokaa-tata-uusvasemmistolaista-ansaa/) (23.3.)

QuoteJari Ehrnrooth: Varokaa tätä uusvasemmistolaista ansaa
Kirjoittajan mukaan virheellinen tulkinta vääristää liberaalia demokratiaa.

(...)

Tasa-arvo-käsitteen absurdit laajennukset on silti syytä ottaa vakavasti, sillä ne kasvavat esiin lännen sisäisestä aateperinnöstä, joka vääristää liberaalia demokratiaa, pahimmillaan pehmeän totalitarismin asteelle.

(...)

Kanta on täsmälleen päinvastainen kuin oli Martin Luther Kingillä, joka kuuluisassa puheessaan I Have a Dream (1963) pyysi, että häntä ja muita mustia ei kohdeltaisi mustina, vaan tasa-arvoisina ihmisinä.

(...)

Mustien, naisten, seksuaalivähemmistöjen ja luonnon puolesta puhujat hyökkäävät länsimaista "sortojärjestelmää" vastaan aivan kuten marxilaiset muinoin proletariaatin puolesta. Työväestön vaurastuttua sen kauna ja katkeruus laantuivat, joten vasemmistolaisen etujoukon oli etsittävä uusia "sortavien rakenteiden" uhreja edustettavaksi.

1990-luku on jäämässä poikkeukselliseksi suvantokaudeksi tämän liikkeen historiassa. Kylmän sodan päätyttyä Neuvostoliiton lakkauttamiseen juhlittiin liberaalin demokratian ja markkinatalouden kiistatonta voittoa. Vapaiden ja vastuullisten yksilöiden tasa-arvoliike oli voittanut ja arvoeroja tasaava sosialismi kuollut ja kuopattu.

Ilo oli ennenaikainen. Tällä vuosituhannella totaalidemokraattiset liikkeet ja liberaalisosialistinen ajattelu ovat louhineet rotua, sukupuolta, seksuaalisia suuntauksia, luontoa, ekosysteemejä ja eläinkuntaa tuloksekkaasti. Vasemmistoaktivismi on löytänyt valtaisia uhripääomia poliittisen mellastuksen perusteiksi.

Valistusfilosofian ja tieteen kasvatille tämän liikkeen uusimmat dokumentit vaikuttavat julmalta pilalta. (...)

Vastaavanlaista, uskomattoman takapajuista ja rasistista ajattelua edustaa Minna Salami, joka haluaa haastaa europatriarkaalisen lineaarisen ja mitattavan tiedon mustan afrikkalaisnaisen syklisellä ja tunnepitoisella aistitiedolla. Hurjaa. Jäämme odottamaan maailmaa mullistavia tuloksia. Oletettavasti mustan naistiedon lähettiläällä on rankkaa, jos tiedostaa (woke!) käyttävänsä lineaarisesti ajattelevan valkoisen miehen kehittämää tietokonetta ja kännykkää. Toivottavasti hänen musta aistitietonsa kuitenkin hyväksyy valkoisen europatriarkaalisen tieteen kehittämän koronarokotteen. ( ;D)

Tasa-arvo tarkoittaa vain yksilöitä

Haluaisin vain nauraa näille uusvasemmistolaisen liikehdinnän yhä hupsummille ilmiöille, mutta historioitsijan vaistoni sanoo, että joudumme ottamaan ne vakavasti. Sosiaalisen median avulla tämä arvoyhtenäisyyttä vaativa pehmeä woke-totalitarismi voi saavuttaa samanlaisen kulttuurisen hegemonian kuin uusvasemmistolainen marxismi 1960-70 -luvuilla.

Pelkästään tämän uhkan vuoksi haluan varoittaa liberaalin demokratian ystäviä älyllisestä ja loogisesta ansasta, jonka uusvasemmistolainen marxismi, antirasismi, feminismi ja syväekologinen liike ovat nimenomaan tasa-arvokäsitteen avulla meille virittäneet.

Välttääksemme ansan meidän on muistettava kaksi käsitteen rajausta.

Ensinnäkin tasa-arvo voi koskea vain yksilöitä. (...) Ei ole muita tällaisia subjekteja kuin ihmisyksilöt. Ryhmät ja ominaisuudet eivät ole subjekteja. Niiden tasa-arvosta puhuminen on harhauttavaa ideologista julistusta.

Toiseksi yhtä tärkeä on rajaus, että vapaiden ja vastuullisten ihmisyksilöiden perustuslaillinen tasa-arvoisuus nojaa abstrahoituun ihmisyyteen eli pienimpään yhteiseen nimittäjäämme. Sukupuolella, iällä, rodulla, siviilisäädyllä, uskonnolla, seksuaalisella suuntauksella, etnisellä taustalla tai sillä, voidaanko mitään näitä tai muita vastaavia ominaisuuksia edes määrittää, ei ole mitään merkitystä yksilön tasa-arvoisuuden kannalta.

Liberaalissa demokraattisessa tasavallassa me vain määräämme, että kaikki ihmiset ovat heitä yhdistävän ihmisyytensä (ihmislajiin kuulumisensa) nojalla tasa-arvoiset. (...)

Tasa-arvokäsitteen vääristyminen alkaa heti, kun sitä aletaan nurinkurisesti soveltaa juuri niihin ominaisuuksiin, joka erottavat ihmisiä. Silloin siirrytään luonnollisten, sosiaalisten ja kulttuuristen arvoerojen tasaukseen, joka on liberaalidemokratian vastainen, yleensä joko sosiaalidemokraattinen tai liberaalisosialistinen hanke. Juuri tämän liikkeen aallot nyt lyövät taas korkeina.

Vasemmisto tarvitsee ideologian


Mihin vasemmistolainen totaalidemokraattinen suuntaus tarvitsee tasa-arvokäsitteen vinon ja vääristävän tulkinnan?

Vastaus on ilmeinen ja toistuu poliittisissa uutisissa päivittäin: Koska muuten vasemmistolta puuttuisi ideologinen perusta, jonka avulla ihmisryhmien ja yksilöiden eroista juontuvaa kaunaa ja katkeruutta voidaan kanavoida poliittiseksi liikkeeksi. Siksi puhutaan sukupuolten tasa-arvosta, rotujen tasa-arvosta, mahdollisuuksien tasa-arvosta ynnä muusta sellaisesta, joka on täysin vailla mieltä, sillä ihmisyksilöthän ovat tasa-arvoisia pelkästään ihmislajiin kuulumisen nojalla, muihin ominaisuuksiin tai mahdollisuuksiin katsomatta.

Vasemmiston puheenparressa toistuu tiuhaan eriarvoisuus, jota kunnon totaalidemokraatti tietysti löytää aina ja kaikkialta (paitsi sieltä mistä liberaalidemokratia sen poistaa eli lainsäädännöstä ja oikeusvaltiosta).  Älykkyyteen, kyvykkyyteen, menestykseen, vaurauteen ja terveyteen liittyvät erot ovat sosiaalidemokraateille ja liberaalisosialisteille loputon "eriarvoisuuksien ja vääryyksien" työmaa ja propagandan lähde.

Filosofisesti katsoen tämä jakobiininen asenne on kuitenkin vailla loogista perustaa pyrkiessään poistamaan juuri ne erot, joista elinvoimainen luonto ja kulttuuri muodostuvat.

Esimerkiksi hyvesignaloinnin peruskauraksi muodostunut "mahdollisuuksien tasa-arvo" kuulostaa monista varmasti hienolta idealta, mutta mitä se voisi käytännössä tarkoittaa? Halutaan siis taata kaikille samat mahdollisuudet erilaisista lähtökohdista ja taustoista huolimatta.

Minä kannatan hyvin pitkälle maksutonta koulutusta, joka laadukkaasti järjestettynä parantaa kansakunnan sivistystasoa ja vahvistaa demokratiaa. Mutta ei se mitenkään voi luoda "mahdollisuuksien tasa-arvoa", koska ei sitä voi olla olemassakaan, ellei poisteta perinnöllisiä ja kasvatuksellisia arvoeroja. Näiden arvoerojen poistaminen johtaisi kauhistuttaviin seurauksiin. Geneettisten älykkyys- ja lahjakkuuserojen tasaaminen lakkauttaisi lajin elinvoimaisuuden, ja tarkemmin ajatellen sama koskee kasvatuksellisia eroja, koska niiden tasaaminen lakkauttaisi kulttuurin elinvoimaisuuden. (...)

Oltakoon siis tarkkoina tämän tasa-arvokäsitteen kanssa. Se on loistava individualistinen idea niin kauan kuin sitä ei sotketa totaalidemokraattiseen arvotasaukseen, joka on liberaalia demokratiaa uhkaava kollektivistinen vitsaus.

Minusta sivistykseen ja tietoon nojaavan liberaalidemokraattisen oikeistopuolueen tehtävänä on puolustaa vapaiden ja vastuullisten yksilöiden tasa-arvoa samalla, kun torjutaan tämän kultaakin kalliimman käsitteen väärinkäyttö älyllisesti ja loogisesti kestämättömillä tavoilla.

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Niin, ei sitä nykyvasemmistoa turhaan sanota vihavasemmistoksi (ainakin itse sanon...). Koko poppoon olemassaolo ja valta perustuu eri ihmisryhmien väliseen vihaan, mitä vihavasemmisto itse nykyisin väkisin tuottaa ja lietsoo. Ilman tuota vihaa kyseinen paskajengi häviäisi saman tien historian hämäriin. Se, miksi Ehrnrooth kirjoittelee tästä kokkarien julkaisussa, ja miksi kokkarien julkaisu yleensä julkaisee tämän, jää itselleni vähän hämärän peittoon. Nykykokkarit kun täysillä kannattavat wokeismia, välillä yrittäen jopa päästä vihavasurien edelle tässä asiassa. Kun taustaryhmät ilmeisesti näkevät sen omien tavoitteidensa kannalta hyödylliseksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.05.2021, 01:19:27
Quote from: zupi on 19.01.2021, 00:49:44
Sattui vastaan ihan mielenkiintoinen twitter-tili, Intiasta lähtöisin oleva, nykyisin ilmeisesti Lontoossa asuva, anti-woke vasuri psykoterapeutti. Ajattelin pistää tähän pikku kokoelman mimmin viimeaikaisista twiiteistä. Ihan hyvää kamaa woke-saastasta, jonka ilmeisestikin tuntee varsin hyvin.

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Jatkoa edelliseen.

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

QuoteUniversity "safe spaces" are known to include cookies, colouring books, bubbles, play-doh, calming music, pillows, blankets, and one even had a video of frolicking puppies.

That's not a "safe space", it's a nursery.
4:07 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWhatever is the polar opposite of Stoicism is the culture we're living in.

Fragilism.
6:43 AM · May 23, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteJonathan Haidt's work blows the church of trauma out of the water.

Coddling, placating & endlessly soothing makes people worse not better.
10:50 PM · May 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteConsidering the genocidal horrors that have been perpetrated in the name of communism- I'm amazed every single time I see a hammer & sickle in someone's bio.

How on earth can you be proud of that?

2:00 AM · May 20, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteThis idea that 'communism wasn't done properly before' is very disturbing.

It indicates hubris, naivety & narcissism because the implication is that 'if I did it it would be done properly'- someone who thinks like that is exactly the sort of person who would turn into a monster.
12:13 AM · May 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Ylläolevaan liittyen:

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QuoteThere are growing numbers of people who:
-just can't think critically
-are incapable of handling disagreement
-seem extremely emotionally unstable
-are highly entitled
-see themselves as victims (even if not victimised)

This appears to be a contagion.
3:27 AM · May 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteCollectivism appeals to people who secretly wish to abandon all personal responsibility.
5:43 AM · May 21, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWhat sort of a society 'educates' their children to hate themselves, hate society, believe they're being oppressed & think communism is the answer?

A very sick one.

6:46 AM · May 20, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteUnsolicited advice: buy a hard copy of a dictionary, don't rely solely on the internet.

Definitions are being altered to accommodate wokeness.
5:21 PM · May 19, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteA society that makes identity more important than class talks about a literal Prince & his feelings of 'oppression'.

A Prince.
6:42 PM · May 15, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Quote"My truth" and "lived experience" are the same thing.

Glorified opinions.
2:33 AM · May 16, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWe're overrun with toxic compassion, but so short on real empathy.
7:26 PM · May 12, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWokeness doesn't allow for autonomy or agency. You aren't allowed to make up your own mind or choose a position.

It's doctrine is set up to force you into a position: adherent or enemy.
4:50 AM · May 11, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Tämän toteutuksesta Viha-Raija on mielestäni oikein hyvä esimerkki.

QuoteSo many people seem shocked to discover that life is really hard, they incorrectly assess this as an aberration & then find things to assign blame to.
6:16 AM · May 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteJust the fact that we have to keep debating whether 2+2 actually = 4 is a sign of how divorced from reality things have gotten.
1:39 AM · May 10, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteReducing human beings to our biological functions like birthing or bleeding robs us of our personhood.

It's very dehumanising.
9:16 PM · May 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWhy are we allowed to observe sex differences in animals but have to pretend they don't exist in humans?
4:04 AM · May 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteBoth sexes have a 'toxic' side, but it's only socially acceptable to talk about one.
10:27 PM · May 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteUnhealthy masculinity might be 'toxic', but healthy masculinity is a beautiful thing. It looks like brotherhood, loyalty, courage, healthy aggression, protectiveness, & strength.
7:56 PM · May 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuotePlease spend one year in India before you tell me Britain is a patriarchy.
3:39 AM · May 5, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSome facts for the people who believe all men are oppressors:
-Homeless population is 95% men
-97% of people who die at work are men
-More men drop out of university
-95.5% of the prison population are men
-Suicide rates for men are 3x higher than women
3:02 AM · May 5, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Quote-If you're white, male & working class you're the least likely person to go to university
-30,000 more women than men are enrolled at universities
-Male victims of CSA & rape get the least help
-International forced labour laws protect everyone except men
3:02 AM · May 5, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteInstead of alleviating mental health stigma, we've created a 'wellness stigma'.

It's more socially acceptable to be struggling, than to be functional & well.
10:50 PM · May 3, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteIdentity politics doesn't work socially, it doesn't increase sensitivity it decreases it & creates tribes.

Treat everyone as an individual; case by case basis.
12:49 AM · May 3, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteThere are many 'intellectuals' who are educated past their intellectual ability. That's why they make no sense.
9:36 PM · May 2, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 27.05.2021, 18:10:06
Naulan kantaan, lyhyesti ja ytimekkäästi.

[tweet]1397684422795698184[/tweet]

QuoteShant Mesrobian@ShantMM

The point of wokeness is to create racial division. It is a self-fulfilling ideology. Woke people crave racial strife more than anyone else. It gives them meaning and purpose. It creates the kind of society they pretend to be fighting against.

1:41 AM · May 27, 2021·Twitter Web App

Kuten tämäkin.

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QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Wokenesss is good example of how people high in agreeableness can be extremely aggressive when emboldened by a group.

7:41 AM · May 27, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Ettei menisi ihan twitteröinniksi.

https://newdiscourses.com/2021/05/five-ugly-truths-about-critical-race-theory/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2021/05/five-ugly-truths-about-critical-race-theory/)

QuoteFive Ugly Truths About Critical Race Theory

Critical Race Theory is currently getting a ton of attention on the national and international stage, which is long overdue, but there are also many misconceptions about it. Here are five questions that many people are asking about Critical Race Theory along with straight answers, explanations, and a raft of proofs from the Critical Race Theory literature itself. My hope is that people will be able to use these proofs to show people that Critical Race Theory is every bit as bad as its critics contend.

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Question: Is Critical Race Theory racist?

Answer: Yes.


Critical Race Theory begins by asserting the importance of social significance of racial categories, rejecting colorblindness, equality, and neutrality, and advocating for discrimination meant to "level the playing field." These things lead it to reproduce and enact racism in practice. It also explicitly says that all white people are either racist or complicit in the system of racism (so, racist) by virtue of benefiting from privileges that they cannot renounce.

Examples:

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"Unlike traditional civil rights, which embraces incrementalism and step-by-step progress, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law." From Critical Race Theory: An Introduction, by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, first edition, p. 3.

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Question: Does Critical Race Theory advance the vision and activism of the Civil Rights Movement?

Answer: No.


Critical Race Theory refers to that vision as "traditional approaches to civil rights" and calls it into question. The Civil Rights Movement called for living up to the foundational promises of the United States (and other free nations) and incrementally changing the system so that those original ideals were met. Critical Race Theory rejects incrementalism in favor of revolution. It rejects the existing system and demands replacing it with its own. It rejects the liberal order and all that goes with it as being part of the system which must be dismantled and replaced. It is therefore fundamentally different than the Civil Rights Movement (and is explicitly anti-liberal and anti-equality).

Examples:

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Question: Does Critical Race Theory say that all white people are racist?

Answer: Yes.


More specifically, Critical Race Theory says that all white people are either racist or that they are complicit in a "system of racism" (so, racist) that they wittingly or unwittingly uphold to their own benefit unless they are "actively antiracist" (and usually even then). Those benefits of "whiteness" are labeled "white privilege" in general and are said to be outside of the scope of things that white people can intentionally renounce. The most they can do is "strive to be less white" and to become aware of and condemn "whiteness" as a system.

Examples:

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"Many critical race theorists and social scientists alike hold that racism is pervasive, systemic, and deeply ingrained. If we take this perspective, then no white member of society seems quite so innocent." From Critical Race Theory: An Introduction, by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, first edition, pp. 79–80.

"...a positive white identity is an impossible goal. White identity is inherently racist; white people do not exist outside the system of white supremacy." From White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism, by Robin DiAngelo, p. 149.

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Question: Is Critical Race Theory Marxist?

Answer: Yes and no.


It is accurate to say that Critical Race Theory is mostly Marxian but not specifically Marxist. It is more accurately adapted from neo-Marxism, which is in turn adapted from Marxism.

The main difference is that Marxism is concerned primarily with economic class and rejects racial categories in favor of workers' solidarity. What this means is that Critical Race Theory operates like Marxism but using race instead of economic class as the line of "social stratification," above which people are "privileged" or "oppressors" and below which people are "marginalized" or "oppressed." This social order is assumed in Critical Race Theory as "the ordinary state of affairs" and analyzed in the same way Marx analyzed across class stratification. Namely, Marx's "conflict theory" (a.k.a. "critical philosophy," so Critical Theory of Race, i.e., Critical Race Theory) is the tool for analyzing society, which is assumed to be totally racialized (by white people).

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Examples:

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"As the reader will see, critical race theory builds on the insights of two previous movements, critical legal studies and radical feminism, to both of which it owes a large debt. It also draws from certain European philosophers and theorists, such as Antonio Gramsci and Jacques Derrida, as well as from the American radical tradition exemplified by such figures as Sojourner Truth, Frederick Douglass, W.E.B. Du Bois, Cesar Chavez, Martin Luther King, Jr., and the Black Power and Chicano movements of the sixties and early seventies." From Critical Race Theory: An Introduction, by Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, first edition, p. 4.

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Question: Is Critical Race Theory an analytical tool for understanding race and racism?

Answer: No, not really (there's a tiny sliver of yes here, in a misleading sense).


Critical Race Theory describes itself as a movement of activists and scholars. This is not exactly what one would expect from a mere "analytical tool."

More accurately, Critical Race Theory is a worldview, not a means of analysis. Critical Race Theory begins from the underlying operating assumptions that race is constantly being imposed by a "white supremacist" society ("systemic racism") and that racism is therefore the ordinary state of affairs in society. It believes further that racism is effectively impossible to eradicate within the existing "white supremacist" system and therefore that it has merely hidden itself better, when it seems to be diminished or less impactful. Critical Race Theory is the tool that allows the people who have awakened to a "Critical Consciousness of race" (i.e., Critical Race Theorists) to detect hidden racism in everything. This is a way of viewing the world, however, not a way of analyzing the world as it is.

Examples:

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 28.05.2021, 02:44:39
Valaisevaa. Ei kommunismin aave ole mihinkään kadonnut. Vallankumoukseen tähtäävä väkivaltainen joukko ei enää synny työväenluokasta. Nyt on valjastettu aatteen paloon värilliset ja feministit.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.05.2021, 02:26:19
Bidenin mädättäessä monet USAn osavaltiot ovat säätäneet tai ovat säätämässä omia lakejaan CRT-hulluuden (=kaikkien marxilaisten paskateorioiden) kieltämiseksi. Montanassa ei ilmeisesti tällaista edes tarvita, kun osavaltion AG / "oikeusministeri" päätti, että CRT:n tuputtaminen on laitonta.

Mitenköhän suuri osuus suomalaisista on muuten samaa mieltä kuin Montanan AG (vaikka lakipykälät ovat tietenkin vähän erilaisia). Ja miten suuri osuus suomalaisista kuitenkin äänestää muita puolueita kuin Persuja...  :facepalm:

Quote(...)

D. CRITICAL RACE THEORY AND "ANTIRACISM"

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Antiracism therefore assigns immutable negative characteristics to individuals solely based upon their race or ethnicity. And it manages to frame any philosophical disagreement or objection to this assignment as—you guessed it—racism.

But accepting antiracism's premises is only half the program. To avoid being racist, one must also affirmatively participate in antiracism's prescribed social action:

We can be led to believe that racism is only about individual mindsets and actions, yet racist policies also contribute to our polarization. While individual choices are damaging, racist ideas in policy have a wide-spread impact by threatening the equity of our systems and the fairness of our institutions. To create an equal society, we must commit to making unbiased choices and being antiracist in all aspects of our lives.22


The driving force behind CRT and antiracism is the complete and total acceptance of a specific worldview—one that encompasses very specific notions about history, philosophy, sociology, and public policy. Being a so-called "antiracist" requires individuals to accept these premises and advocate for specific policy proposals. Individuals who do not comply cannot truly be "antiracist," and are, therefore, considered racist.

By its own terms, antiracism excludes individuals who merely advocate for the neutral legal principles of the Constitution, or who deny or question the extent to which white supremacy continues to shape our institutions. To that end, no one can be antiracist who does not act to eliminate the vestiges of white supremacy, i.e., embrace the specific public policy proposals of CRT and antiracism. For example, critics have suggested that there is one, and only one, correct stance on standardized testing, drug legalization, Medicare for All, and even the capital gains tax rate.23

This paradigm is conveniently constructed "like a mousetrap."24 Disagreement with any aspect becomes irrefutable evidence of its premises of systemic racism, bias, fragility, or white supremacy. In short, it is a conclusion in search of a methodology—one that eschews the bedrock principles of natural justice and abdicates fundamental concepts such as individual agency and autonomy.

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Before turning to the legal analysis, I note the challenge of dealing with terms like "antiracism"—which are susceptible to different and evolving meanings. For example, the CRT and "antiracism" movements demonstrate that although "racism" is widely understood and accepted as an epithet, it encompasses vastly different meanings for different people.59 The gravamen of CRT and antiracism's theories, however, rely on the popular shibboleths of "systemic," "institutional," or "structural" racism. A minimal investigation into these claims exposes them as hollow rhetorical devices devoid of any legally sufficient rationale for purposes of civil rights law, as well as a threat to stability of our institutions.

There is no better example of this than the September 2020 open letter from Christopher Eisgruber, President of Princeton University, admitting that his institution is and for decades has been "racist."60 He notoriously alleged "[r]acism and the damage it does to people of color persist at Princeton as in our society, sometimes by conscious intention but more often through unexamined assumptions and stereo-types, ignorance or insensitivity, and the systemic legacy of past decisions and policies."61 He further admitted that "[r]acist assumptions ... remain embedded in structures of the University itself."62 The U.S. Department of Education was rightly alarmed by these serious revelations and immediately opened an investigation into the racism at Princeton.63 Particularly concerning was that Princeton might have repeatedly made knowingly false assurances regarding nondiscrimination and equal opportunity to the Department in exchange for federal monies, not to mention similar statements to students, parents, and consumers.64

In the face of this investigation, however, Princeton responded that—although it is systemically, institutionally, and structurally racist—it does not actually commit discrimination in violation of federal law.65 Despite its claims that widespread racism permeated throughout every aspect of campus, it asserted that no one employed by the University had engaged in or was engaging in any discrimination on the basis of race, color, or national origin. The Department concluded its investigation by stating that President Eisgruber "knowingly and intentionally spoke falsely, making a factually baseless ritual confession and not an empirically grounded description of campus reality."

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E. ANALYSIS AND CONCLUSIONS OF LAW

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The term "antiracism" appears reasonable and innocuous on its face. After all, our Constitution, our laws, and nearly all our citizens are "antiracism." But "antiracism," as a name for Kendi's and DiAngelo's all-encompassing worldview, is an Orwellian rhetorical weapon.67 It does not simply mean the opposition of differential treatment based on race. According to Kendi's How to Be an Antiracist, "[t]he only remedy to racist discrimination is antiracist discrimination. The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination ... The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination." As I discuss in greater detail below, Kendi's description is correct: antiracism demands race-based discrimination.

But first let me state the obvious. Committing racial discrimination in the name of ending racial discrimination is both illogical and illegal. (...)

To assist schools and other governmental entities with compliance, what follows is a list of widely reported "antiracist" and CRT-related activities that I conclude violate federal and state law. Though hostile environment claims are based on the totality of the circumstances and will likely depend on a particular case's facts, I have identified several bright line rules. They fall under three prohibited categories (which often overlap): racial segregation, race stereotyping, and race scapegoating. These concepts violate civil rights laws because they constitute racial harassment and/or require authority figures to engage in activities that result in different treatment on the basis of race.

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Schools may not use race when administering their academic programs. This includes grading students differently or apply different grading criteria to students based on race. Neither schools nor instructors nor guest speakers may have students participate in class or complete assignments on the basis of their race. Schools also may not discipline students differently on the basis of race. Other government entities and employers, similarly, may not segregate employees on the basis of race or treat them differently on the basis of race.

Government entities may not engage in racial stereotyping, which means ascribing character traits, values, moral and ethical codes, privileges, status, or beliefs to a race or to an individual because of his or her race. (...)

Prohibited race stereotyping includes all exercises that ascribe specific characteristics or qualities to all members of a racial group, particularly when participation in such exercises is compulsory or acceptance of certain stereotypes is required as part of the grading criteria. Schools, other government, entities, and employers may not use materials that assert that one race is inherently superior or inferior to an-other. Individuals may not be forced participate in "privilege walks" that treat students differently based on race. Individuals may not be forced to admit privilege or punished for failing to do so. Members of certain races cannot be forced to "reflect", "deconstruct," or "confront" their racial identities or be instructed to be "less white" (or less of any other race, ethnicity, or national origin).

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Finally, government entities such as public schools, public colleges and universities, and government agencies are subject to the First Amendment. The First Amendment prevents the government from restricting protected speech, but it also prevents compelled speech. (...)

Trainings, exercises, or assignments which force students or employees to admit, accept, affirm, or support controversial concepts such as privilege, culpability, identity, or status, constitute compelled speech. (...)

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https://media.dojmt.gov/wp-content/uploads/AGO-V58-O1-5.27.21-FINAL.pdf (https://media.dojmt.gov/wp-content/uploads/AGO-V58-O1-5.27.21-FINAL.pdf)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.05.2021, 19:45:22
Jälleen yksi kirjoitus CRT:stä ja sen totalitaristisesta perusluonteesta. Ei tosin kannata takertua tuohon CRT termiin, käytännössä tässä puhutaan kaikista näistä woke-hullutuksista, intersektionaaliset feminismit ja queer-tutkimukset mukaan lukien.

https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/removing-the-bedrock-of-liberalism-826 (https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/removing-the-bedrock-of-liberalism-826)

QuoteRemoving The Bedrock Of Liberalism
What the "Critical Race Theory" debate is really about.

As the origins of our current moral panic about "white supremacy" become more widely debated, we have an obvious problem: how to define the term "Critical Race Theory." (...)

In his forthcoming book, "The Constitution of Knowledge," Jonathan Rauch lays out some core principles that liberal societies rely upon. These are not optional if liberal society is to survive. And they are not easy, which is why we have created many institutions and practices to keep them alive. Rauch lists some of them: fallibilism, the belief that anyone, especially you, can always be wrong; objectivity, a rejection of any theory that cannot be proven or disproven by reality; accountability, the openness to conceding and correcting error; and pluralism, the maintenance of intellectual diversity so we maximize our chances of finding the truth.

The only human civilization that has ever depended on these principles is the modern West since the Enlightenment. That's a few hundred years as opposed to 200,000 or so of Homo sapiens' history, when tribalism, creedalism, warfare, theocracy or totalitarianism reigned.

The genius of liberalism in unleashing human freedom and the human mind changed us more in centuries than we had changed in hundreds of millennia. And at its core, there is the model of the single, interchangeable, equal citizen, using reason to deliberate the common good with fellow citizens. No ultimate authority; just inquiry and provisional truth. No final answer: an endless conversation. No single power, but many in competition.

(...)

My central problem with critical theory is that it takes precise aim at these very core principles and rejects them. By rejecting them, in the otherwise noble cause of helping the marginalized, it is a very seductive and potent threat to liberal civilization.

Am I exaggerating CRT's aversion to liberal modernity? I don't think I am. Here is how critical theory defines itself in one of its central documents. It questions the very foundations of "Enlightenment rationality, legal equality and Constitutional neutrality." It begins with the assertion that these are not ways to further knowledge and enlarge human freedom. They are rather manifestations of white power over non-white bodies. Formal legal equality, they argue, the promise of the American experiment, has never been actual equality, even as, over the centuries, it has been extended to everyone. It is, rather, a system to perpetuate inequality forever, which is the single and only reason racial inequality is still here.

Claims to truth are merely claims to power. That's what people are asked to become "awake" to: that liberalism is a lie. As are its purported values. Free speech is therefore not always a way to figure out the truth; it is just another way in which power is exercised — to harm the marginalized. The idea that a theory can be proven or disproven by the empirical process is itself a white supremacist argument, denying the "lived experience" of members of identity groups that is definitionally true, whatever the "objective" facts say. And our minds and souls and institutions have been so marinated in white supremacist culture for so long, critical theorists argue, that the system can only be dismantled rather than reformed. The West's idea of individual freedom — the very foundation of the American experiment — is, in their view, a way merely to ensure the permanent slavery of the non-white.

(...)

I know all this sounds highfalutin. But I honestly don't think what I have described is a "straw man." It is rather the core argument. I also know that the vast numbers of people who have adopted this rejection of foundational liberal principles often know only bastardized versions of this, and believe that they are merely helping encourage racial sensitivity and tolerance.

(...)

This is what makes CRT different. When it began, critical theory was one school of thought among many. But the logic of it — it denies the core liberal premises of all the other schools and renders them all forms of oppression — means that it cannot long tolerate those other schools. It must always attack them.

Critical theory is therefore always the cuckoo in the academic nest. Over time, it throws out its competitors — and not in open free debate. It does so by ending that debate, by insisting that the liberal "reasonable person" standard of debate is, in fact, rigged in favor of the oppressors, that speech is a form of harm, even violent harm, rather than a way to seek the truth. It insists that what matters is the identity of the participants in a debate, not the arguments themselves. If a cis white woman were to make an argument, a Latino trans man can dismiss it for no other reason than that a white cis woman is making it. Thus, identity trumps reason. Thus liberal society dies a little every time that dismissal sticks.

Every time a liberal institution hires or fires someone because of their group identity rather than their individual abilities, it is embracing a principle designed to undermine the liberal part of the institution. Every university that denies a place to someone because of their race is violating fundamental principles of liberal learning. Every newspaper and magazine that fires someone for their sincerely-held views, or because their identity alone means those views are unacceptable, is undermining the principles of liberal discourse. Every time someone prefers to trust someone's subjective "lived experience" over facts, empiricism and an attempt at objectivity, liberal society dies a little.

And every student who emerges from college who believes that what matters is whether you are on "the right side of history" rather than whether your ideas can be tested by the ruthless light of open debate is a student who does not have the ability to function as a citizen in a liberal society. The ability to respect and live peaceably alongside people with whom you vehemently disagree is a far harder skill than cheering on one of your own. And yet liberal institutions are openly demonstrating that it is precisely this kind of difficult toleration they will not tolerate.

I'm sorry but this matters. It's not the only thing that matters right now, I know. But if we remove the corner-stone of liberal democracy — the concept of a free, interchangeable citizen using reason to deliberate the common good with her fellow citizens, regardless of any identity — then it is only a matter of time before it falls. (...)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.06.2021, 21:38:54
Koko rahalla sekaisin...

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Ja tietenkin Seerutin heittoja lainauksina...

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

QuoteGrown adults do not need to be protected from 'harmful' ideas.
6:39 AM · May 29, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteChildren go to school to be educated not suffer the moral panics of their teachers.
8:48 PM · May 29, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteIt's getting very hard to satirise the woke. They're already a dark comedy.
10:59 PM · May 29, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteI'm not convinced the woke are high in empathy, I think they're just conformists.
12:40 AM · May 30, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteWokeism attracts people who lack courage, competence, logic, emotional regulation, critical thinking, maturity & worst of all, a conscience.
6:06 AM · May 30, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteI criticise wokeness so vociferously because it warrants it. It's cult-like, authoritarian, racist & illiberal.

The damage it has done & could do is frightening. When a house is on fire sounding the alarm is the rational thing to do.
2:46 AM · May 31, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteThe best "safe space" is feeling like an empowered, competent, resilient adult.
1:07 AM · Jun 1, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteCommunism is when you can't make everyone happy, so you make everyone equally miserable.
2:56 AM · Jun 3, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteOlder gays & lesbians fought for gay rights, lived through the aids crisis, suffered discrimination & were called 'queer' as a slur.

Only to be lectured on 'queerness' by the people who enjoy the rights they fought for.
5:07 PM · Jun 4, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Tämä pitää laittaa ihan twiittinä. Pitäisköhän itsekin alkaa lähetteleen laskuja Hyysärille ja Ylelle...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: K. Martel on 07.06.2021, 21:22:44
Pitäisikö tai onko omaa ketjua "kriittisille" rotuopeille, vaiko tänne näiden muiden kulttuurimarksismin höpsismien joukkoon?

QuoteYleisön eteen palannut Trump nosti esiin Yhdysvaltain kulttuurisodan tuoreimman kuuman perunan – vaati kieltoa kriittiselle rotuteorialle

Kriittisestä rotuteoriasta on näillä näkymin tulossa Yhdysvalloissa ensi vuonna käytävien välivaalien isoin kulttuurinen kiistakapula.

Puheessaan Trump nosti esille myös kriittisen rotuteorian, joka on noussut yhdeksi kuumimmista perunoista Yhdysvalloissa viime vuosina jälleen kiihtyneessä kulttuurisodassa. Kyse on akateemisesta lähestymistavasta, jolla pyritään tarkastelemaan Yhdysvaltain lakeja ja instituutioita rodun ja rasismin näkökulmasta.

Trump syytti seuraajaansa, demokraattien Joe Bideniä kriittisen rotuteorian tuputtamisesta koululaisille.

– Bidenin hallinto on laatinut säädöksiä, joilla amerikkalaisiin koululaisiin pyritään juurruttamaan myrkyllistä, kansaa jakavaa, vasemmistolaista oppia, kuten kriittistä rotuteoriaa. Se on täysi vastakohta amerikkalaiselle uskomukselle, jonka mukaan meidät kaikki on luotu tasavertaisiksi jumalan kuviksi, Trump sanoi.

Hänen mukaansa republikaanien tulisi "kaikilla tasoilla" ottaa oppia Pohjois-Carolinan republikaaneista ja ryhtyä välittömästi toimeen kriittisen rotuteorian kieltämiseksi maan kouluissa.

– Ja meidän tulisi kieltää se työpaikoillamme, osavaltioissamme ja liittovaltion hallinnossa. Se tulisi tehdä välittömästi, Trump sanoi yleisön puhjetessa aplodeihin seisaaltaan.

Yhteiskunnassa esiintyvää rakenteellista rasismia on nostanut esille viime vuosina muun muassa rasismin vastainen Black Lives Matter -liike. Kuva New Yorkissa toukokuun lopulla järjestetyltä George Floydin kuoleman vuosipäivän muistomarssilta. Kuva: Spencer Platt / AFP / Lehtikuva

Trump kritisoi myös demokraattien kouluihin kaavailemaa kansalaiskasvatusta, jossa hänen mukaansa oppilaille annettaisiin suorituspisteitä mielenosoituksiin osallistumisesta sekä siitä, että nämä "tekevät itsestään vasemmistoaktivisteja".

– Näille ihmisille ei tehdä mitään. He tappavat ihmisiä ja polttavat rakennuksia ja ottavat kohteekseen liittovaltion rakennuksia, eikä mitään tapahdu. Ihmiset ovat hiton vihaisia, jos hallituksen kouluissa juurrutetaan lapsiin radikaaleja ajatuksia. Republikaanien on välittömästi saatava läpi laki, joka antaa jokaiselle amerikkalaiselle vanhemmalle vallan jättäytyä pois tästä järjettömyydestä ja lähettää lapsensa valitsemaansa julkiseen, yksityiseen tai charterkouluun, ex-presidentti vaati.
https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000008032964.html
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 07.06.2021, 22:21:40
^
QuoteKriittisen rotuteorian keskeisen ajatuksen mukaan rasismi ei ole ainoastaan yksittäisten, ennakkoluuloisten ihmisten tekemisiä tai sanomisia, vaan syvälle järjestelmään ja rakenteisiin juurtunut ilmiö, joka vaikuttaa negatiivisesti muiden kuin valkoisten ihmisten asemaan esimerkiksi kouluissa, työelämässä, terveydenhuollon piirissä ja oikeusjärjestelmässä.

QuoteDemokraatit liittolaisineen ovat puolestaan painottaneet, että edistystä ei Yhdysvalloissa vallitsevan epätasa-arvon kitkemisessä todennäköisesti tapahdu, ellei sen juurisyitä tutkita.

Republikaaneja ja muita konservatiiveja on syytetty siitä, että käyttävät alun perin rakenteellisen rasismin tunnistamiseen tarkoitettua, vuosikymmeniä vanhaa akateemista termiä kaatopaikkana, jonne voidaan heittää kaikki rasismin vastaiset ja yhteiskunnan monimuotoisuutta edistävät pyrkimykset.

Yhdysvaltain kulttuurisodan viimeisin rintamalinja on siis piirretty käytännössä siihen, tulisiko koululaisille opettaa historiaa ja kansalaistaitoja kriittistä rotuteoriaa työkaluna käyttäen. Kysymyksestä näyttää myös tulevan ensi vuoden välivaalien isoin kulttuurinen kiistakapula.

Taas piti tehdä kymmenen syvähengitystä ennen vastaamista... Hienoa propagandaa, vaikka tuosta onkin pahimmat jenkkimedian ylilyönnit höylätty pois. Kyseessä on siis "akateeminen termi", jolla "tunnistetaan yhteiskunnan rakenteellista rasismia". Siis sitä "rakenteellista rasismia", minkä tuo "akateeminen termi" on itse ensin ravistanut hihastaan, ja minkä tunnistamiseen koko paska perustuu... Eli käytännössä siihen, että todellinen CRT:n jedimestari tunnistaa rasismia joka ikisessä tapahtumassa ja kohtaamisessa. Ja "opettaa historiaa ja kansalaistaitoja kriittistä rotuteoriaa työkaluna käyttäen"...  :o Olisi nyt voinut rehellisesti kirjoittaa, että "vääristää historianopetusta ja opettaa vasemmistoaktivismia kriittistä rotuteoriaa työkaluna käyttäen".

Ja se "rakenteellinen rasismi" termi perustuu vain ja ainoastaan siihen, että eri ryhmien asema ja saavutukset yhteiskunnassa eivät ole samat. Sille, että tämä "epätasa-arvo" jollain tavalla johtuisi rasismista, vieläpä rakenteellisesta sellaisesta, ei ole kuitenkaan yhtään mitään perustetta tai todistetta. EI SIIS MITÄÄN. Kyseessä on vain ja ainoastaan marxististen sekopäiden postmodernismilla maustettu ajatuskyhäelmä, jonka kaiken maailman idiootit luulevan olevan jotain oikeaa "tiedettä". Päinvastaisia todisteita tosin löytyy vaikka miten paljon, lähtien nyt vaikka ihan siitä, että valkoiset amerikkalaiset eivät todellakaan ole se parhaiten pärjäävä etninen ryhmä USAssa. Briteissähän teetettiin äskettäin oikein kunnon selvityskin asiasta, eli sellainen, missä oikeasti haettiin niitä juurisyitä "lopputulosten epätasa-arvoon". Päätelmä oli, että rasismilla, mitä nyt jossain määrin luonnollisesti yhteiskunnassa on, on vain minimaalinen vaikutus tähän epätasa-arvoon. No, sekopäisille marxisteille tuo ei tietenkään kelvannut, koska CRT kertoo jo totuuden. Totuuden, mitä ei voi mitenkään kyseenalaistaa, mikä ei tarvi mitään todisteita ja jonka kiistäminen on... no tietenkin rasismia, ja rasisteillahan ei ole mitään ihmisoikeuksia. Ja tietenkin muuten nuo marxistit hyökkäsivät somessa täysillä selvityksen tehneen ryhmän jäsenten kimppuun, joista 11/12 oli ei-valkoisia.

UK-raporttiin liittyen:
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3293925.html#msg3293925 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3293925.html#msg3293925)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3294192.html#msg3294192 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3294192.html#msg3294192)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: sancai on 07.06.2021, 23:03:14
Quote from: zupi on 07.06.2021, 22:21:40
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QuoteKriittisen rotuteorian keskeisen ajatuksen mukaan rasismi ei ole ainoastaan yksittäisten, ennakkoluuloisten ihmisten tekemisiä tai sanomisia, vaan syvälle järjestelmään ja rakenteisiin juurtunut ilmiö, joka vaikuttaa negatiivisesti muiden kuin valkoisten ihmisten asemaan esimerkiksi kouluissa, työelämässä, terveydenhuollon piirissä ja oikeusjärjestelmässä.

QuoteDemokraatit liittolaisineen ovat puolestaan painottaneet, että edistystä ei Yhdysvalloissa vallitsevan epätasa-arvon kitkemisessä todennäköisesti tapahdu, ellei sen juurisyitä tutkita.

Republikaaneja ja muita konservatiiveja on syytetty siitä, että käyttävät alun perin rakenteellisen rasismin tunnistamiseen tarkoitettua, vuosikymmeniä vanhaa akateemista termiä kaatopaikkana, jonne voidaan heittää kaikki rasismin vastaiset ja yhteiskunnan monimuotoisuutta edistävät pyrkimykset.

Yhdysvaltain kulttuurisodan viimeisin rintamalinja on siis piirretty käytännössä siihen, tulisiko koululaisille opettaa historiaa ja kansalaistaitoja kriittistä rotuteoriaa työkaluna käyttäen. Kysymyksestä näyttää myös tulevan ensi vuoden välivaalien isoin kulttuurinen kiistakapula.

Taas piti tehdä kymmenen syvähengitystä ennen vastaamista... Hienoa propagandaa, vaikka tuosta onkin pahimmat jenkkimedian ylilyönnit höylätty pois. Kyseessä on siis "akateeminen termi", jolla "tunnistetaan yhteiskunnan rakenteellista rasismia". Siis sitä "rakenteellista rasismia", minkä tuo "akateeminen termi" on itse ensin ravistanut hihastaan, ja minkä tunnistamiseen koko paska perustuu... Eli käytännössä siihen, että todellinen CRT:n jedimestari tunnistaa rasismia joka ikisessä tapahtumassa ja kohtaamisessa. Ja "opettaa historiaa ja kansalaistaitoja kriittistä rotuteoriaa työkaluna käyttäen"...  :o Olisi nyt voinut rehellisesti kirjoittaa, että "vääristää historianopetusta ja opettaa vasemmistoaktivismia kriittistä rotuteoriaa työkaluna käyttäen".

Ja se "rakenteellinen rasismi" termi perustuu vain ja ainoastaan siihen, että eri ryhmien asema ja saavutukset yhteiskunnassa eivät ole samat. Sille, että tämä "epätasa-arvo" jollain tavalla johtuisi rasismista, vieläpä rakenteellisesta sellaisesta, ei ole kuitenkaan yhtään mitään perustetta tai todistetta. EI SIIS MITÄÄN. Kyseessä on vain ja ainoastaan marxististen sekopäiden postmodernismilla maustettu ajatuskyhäelmä, jonka kaiken maailman idiootit luulevan olevan jotain oikeaa "tiedettä". Päinvastaisia todisteita tosin löytyy vaikka miten paljon, lähtien nyt vaikka ihan siitä, että valkoiset amerikkalaiset eivät todellakaan ole se parhaiten pärjäävä etninen ryhmä USAssa. Briteissähän teetettiin äskettäin oikein kunnon selvityskin asiasta, eli sellainen, missä oikeasti haettiin niitä juurisyitä "lopputulosten epätasa-arvoon". Päätelmä oli, että rasismilla, mitä nyt jossain määrin luonnollisesti yhteiskunnassa on, on vain minimaalinen vaikutus tähän epätasa-arvoon. No, sekopäisille marxisteille tuo ei tietenkään kelvannut, koska CRT kertoo jo totuuden. Totuuden, mitä ei voi mitenkään kyseenalaistaa, mikä ei tarvi mitään todisteita ja jonka kiistäminen on... no tietenkin rasismia, ja rasisteillahan ei ole mitään ihmisoikeuksia. Ja tietenkin muuten nuo marxistit hyökkäsivät somessa täysillä selvityksen tehneen ryhmän jäsenten kimppuun, joista 11/12 oli ei-valkoisia.

UK-raporttiin liittyen:
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3293925.html#msg3293925 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3293925.html#msg3293925)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3294192.html#msg3294192 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131802.msg3294192.html#msg3294192)
^Tuossa analyysissa unohdettiin mainita se kriittisen rotuteorian todellinen pihvi. Se ei vain tunnista "rakenteellista rasismia" yksilöllisen rasismin lisäksi, vaan kiistää yksilöllisen rasismin olemassaolon. Kriittinen rotuteoria hylkää kokonaan yksilölähtöisen maailmankuvan ja sen mukaan rasismi on vain ja ainoastaan kollektiivinen ilmiö, minkä takia kukaan musta yksilö ei voi olla rasistinen valkoista yksilöä kohtaan. Kriittinen rotuteoria ei näe ristiriitaa siinä, että kriittisen rotuteorian mukaan Oprah on sorrettu ja koditon valkoinen alkoholistiveteraani etuoikeutettu, koska se ei tiedosta yksilön olemassaoloa.

Kriittisen rotuteorian mukaan koko yhteiskuntaa ja kaikkia yhteiskunnallisia ilmiöitä, sekä kaikkia yksilöiden kohtaamisia selittää rotujen välinen kamppailu vallasta, siinä missä perinteiset marxistit uskoivat yhteiskunnan rakentuvan luokkataistelusta. Kriittisen rotuteorian mukaan siis myös pyrkimys kohdella kaikkia tasapuolisesti tai "rotusoeus" on rasismia, koska se ylläpitää nykyisiä yhteiskunnallisia valtarakenteita. Kriittisen rotuteorian mukaan kaikki, paitsi markkinataloutta, länsimaalaisuutta ja "valkoisuutta" vastaan kapinointi on rasismia. Jopa sellaiset asiat kuin ahkeruus, aikataulujen noudattaminen, itsenäisyys, ydinperhe ja kauneus ovat rasismia ylläpitävää valkoisuutta.

Kriittinen rotuteoria on siis rotusegregaatiota ja marxistista luokkataistelua uudessa paketissa. Lähes kaikelle, mitä kriittinen rotuteoria kutsuu "valkoisuudeksi", synonyymi on "porvarillisuus".
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: sancai on 07.06.2021, 23:15:15
Tämä kriittinen rotuteoria on siitä mielenkiintoinen aate eurooppalaisessa kontekstissa, että täällä sitä ei sulateta. Seinä on tullut vastaan valtavirtapuolueiden osalta jo esimerkiksi Ranskassa ja Britanniassa. Ranskassa Emmanuel Macron ja lukuisat valtavirran poliittiset vaikuttajat asettuivat näyttävästi tätä aatetta vastaan ja Britanniassa Konservatiivipuolue, joka siis vastaa konservatiivisuudeltaan Suomen Kokoomusta, perusti BLM-protestien seurauksena työryhmän, joka tuotti pitkän selvityksen, että Britannia ei ole rakenteellisesti rasistinen maa. Yhdysvalloissa valtamedia asettui Macronia vastaan ja haukkui hänet valkoisen ylivallan kannattajaksi sellaisia valheita viljellen, että Macron itse soitti päätoimituksiin korjatakseen valheet. Ilmeisesti kriittisen rotuteorian tuoma rotusegregaatio ja rotuidentiteettien omaksuminen on liikaa eurooppalaiselle tasa-arvokäsitykselle. Seuraan mielenkiinnolla, miten tämä etenee Suomessa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: nochWunder on 07.06.2021, 23:17:01
^Ei mene enää kauaa kun valkoisia perheitä löytyy tapettuna USA:ssa ja ehkä jopa Kanadassa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 07.06.2021, 23:23:55
Tästä piti alunperin kirjoitella, mutta tämähän menee mukavasti tuon CRT-pärinän perään, eli sen tulos käytännössä. Tällä kertaa terveydenhoidon alalta.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/what-happens-when-doctors-cant-speak (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/what-happens-when-doctors-cant-speak)

QuoteWhat Happens When Doctors Can't Tell the Truth?
Whole areas of research are off-limits. Top physicians treat patients based on their race. An ideological 'purge' is underway in American medicine.
   
Katie Herzog
   
(...)

They meet once a month on Zoom: a dozen doctors from around the country with distinguished careers in different specialities. They vary in ethnicity, age and sexual orientation. Some work for the best hospitals in the U.S. or teach at top medical schools. Others are dedicated to serving the most vulnerable populations in their communities.

The meetings are largely a support group. The members share their concerns about what's going on in their hospitals and universities, and strategize about what to do. What is happening, they say, is the rapid spread of a deeply illiberal ideology in the country's most important medical institutions.

This dogma goes by many imperfect names — wokeness, social justice, critical race theory, anti-racism — but whatever it's called, the doctors say this ideology is stifling critical thinking and dissent in the name of progress. They say that it's turning students against their teachers and patients and racializing even the smallest interpersonal interactions. Most concerning, they insist that it is threatening the foundations of patient care, of research, and of medicine itself.

These aren't secret bigots who long for the "good old days" that were bad for so many. (...)

I've heard from doctors who've been reported to their departments for criticizing residents for being late. (It was seen by their trainees as an act of racism.) I've heard from doctors who've stopped giving trainees honest feedback for fear of retaliation. I've spoken to those who have seen clinicians and residents refuse to treat patients based on their race or their perceived conservative politics.

Some of these doctors say that there is a "purge" underway in the world of American medicine: question the current orthodoxy and you will be pushed out. They are so worried about the dangers of speaking out about their concerns that they will not let me identify them except by the region of the country where they work.

"People are afraid to speak honestly," said a doctor who immigrated to the U.S. from the Soviet Union. "It's like back to the USSR, where you could only speak to the ones you trust." If the authorities found out, you could lose your job, your status, you could go to jail or worse. The fear here is not dissimilar.

When doctors do speak out, shared another, "the reaction is savage. And you better be tenured and you better have very thick skin."

"We're afraid of what's happening to other people happening to us," a doctor on the West Coast told me. "We are seeing people being fired. We are seeing people's reputations being sullied. There are members of our group who say, 'I will be asked to leave a board. I will endanger the work of the nonprofit that I lead if this comes out.' People are at risk of being totally marginalized and having to leave their institutions."

While the hyper focus on identity is seen by many proponents of social justice ideology as a necessary corrective to America's past sins, some people working in medicine are deeply concerned by what "justice" and "equity" actually look like in practice.

"The intellectual foundation for this movement is the Marxist view of the world, but stripped of economics and replaced with race determinism," one psychologist explained. (...)

"Wokeness feels like an existential threat," a doctor from the Northwest said. "In health care, innovation depends on open, objective inquiry into complex problems, but that's now undermined by this simplistic and racialized worldview where racism is seen as the cause of all disparities, despite robust data showing it's not that simple."

"Whole research areas are off-limits," he said, adding that some of what is being published in the nation's top journals is "shoddy as hell."

Here, he was referring in part to a study published last year in the Proceedings Of The National Academy Of Sciences. The study was covered all over the news, with headlines like "Black Newborns More Likely to Die When Looked After by White Doctors" (CNN), "The Lack of Black Doctors is Killing Black Babies" (Fortune), and "Black Babies More Likely to Survive when Cared for by Black Doctors" (The Guardian).

Despite these breathless headlines, the study was so methodologically flawed that, according to several of the doctors I spoke with, it's impossible to extrapolate any conclusions about how the race of the treating doctor impacts patient outcomes at all. And yet very few people were willing to publicly criticize it. As Vinay Prasad, a clinician and a professor at the University of California San Francisco, put it on Twitter: "I am aware of dozens of people who agree with my assessment of this paper and are scared to comment."

"It's some of the most shoddy, methodologically flawed research we've ever seen published in these journals," the doctor in the Zoom meeting said, "with sensational conclusions that seem totally unjustified from the results of the study."

"It's frustrating because we all know how hard it is to get good, sound research published," he added. "So do those rules and quality standards no longer apply to this topic, or to these authors, or for a certain time period?"

At the same time that the bar appears to be lower for articles and studies that push an anti-racist agenda, the consequences for questioning or criticizing that agenda can be high.

Just ask Norman Wang. Last year, the University of Pittsburgh cardiologist was demoted by his department after he published a paper in the Journal of the American Heart Association (JAHA) analyzing and criticizing diversity initiatives in cardiology. Looking at 50 years of data, Wang argued that affirmative action and other diversity initiatives have failed to both meaningfully increase the percentage of black and Hispanic clinicians in his field or to improve patient outcomes. Rather than admitting, hiring and promoting clinicians based on their race, he argued for race-neutral policies in medicine.

"Long-term academic solutions and excellence should not be sacrificed for short-term demographic optics," Wang wrote. "Ultimately, all who aspire to a profession in medicine and cardiology must be assessed as individuals on the basis of their personal merits, not their racial and ethnic identities."

At first, there was little response. But four months after it was published, screenshots of the paper began circulating on Twitter and others in the field began accusing Wang of racism. Sharonne Hayes, a cardiologist at the Mayo Clinic, implored colleagues to "rise up." "The fact that this is published in 'our' journal should both enrage & activate all of us," she wrote, adding the hashtag #RetractRacists.

Soon after, Barry London, the editor in chief of JAHA, issued an apology and the journal retracted the work over Wang's objection. London cited no specific errors in Wang's paper in his statement, just that publishing it was antithetical to his and the journal's values. Retraction, in a case like this, is exceedingly rare: When papers are retracted, it's generally because of the data or the study has been discredited. A search of the journal's website and the Retraction Database found records of just two retractions in JAHA: Wang's paper and a 2019 paper that erroneously linked heart attacks to vaping.

After the outcry, the American Heart Association (AHA), which publishes the journal, issued a statement denouncing Wang's paper and promising an investigation. In a tweet, the organization said it "does NOT represent AHA values. JAHA is editorially independent but that's no excuse. We'll investigate. We'll do better. We're invested in helping to build a diverse health care and research community."

As the criticism mounted, Wang was removed from his position as the director of a fellowship program in clinical cardiac electrophysiology at University of Pittsburgh Medical Center and was prohibited from making any contact with students. His boss reportedly told him that his classroom was "inherently unsafe" due to the views he expressed.

(...)

JAHA isn't the only journal issuing apologies. In February, the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) released a podcast hosted by surgeon and then-deputy journal editor Edward Livingston, who questioned the value of the hyper focus on race in medicine as well as the idea that medicine is systemically racist.

"Personally, I think taking racism out of the conversation will help," Livingston said at one point. "Many of us are offended by the concept that we are racist."

(...) A number of researchers vowed to boycott the journal, and a petition condemning JAMA has received over 9,000 signatures. In response to the backlash, JAMA quickly deleted the episode, promised to investigate, and asked Livingston to resign from his job. He did.

If you try to access the podcast today, you find an apology in its place from JAMA editor-in-chief Howard Bauchner, who called Livingston's statements, "inaccurate, offensive, hurtful and inconsistent with the standards of JAMA." (...)

What happened to Norman Wang, Edward Livingston, and Howard Bauchner contribute to what one clinician described as a "a chilly atmosphere." That chill extends to teaching the next generation of doctors.

"Some attending physicians are hesitant to provide constructive criticism to trainees over fears of being perceived as racist," a doctor in the Northeast said. "You ask yourself, 'Is this worth bringing up?' You second guess yourself."

(...)

This was what he was taught in his training years ago: You meet patients where they are, help them as much as you can, and hope they are better off for the encounter.

That philosophy, however, is changing. Increasingly, the doctors told me, this next generation of trainees seem to believe it's also their duty to confront patients about their own prejudice — whether they're open to it or not.


(...)

The diversity industry is now worth billions of dollars, but there have been surprisingly few evaluations of whether or not such trainings actually work. The research that has been done is not encouraging. One study found that these trainings can be counterproductive; another found that positive effects don't seem to last.

(...)

There's clearly a generation gap between these doctors on Zoom, the youngest of whom has been practicing for at least 10 years, and doctors just beginning their career. The older clinicians are more likely to appear politically neutral, at least at work, while younger students and clinicians are more likely to prioritize activism. Those differences can be a major source of tension.

One prominent organization, White Coats for Black Lives, was formed by medical students in 2014 and now has at least 75 chapters all over the U.S. In addition to publishing a Racial Justice Report Card that grades medical schools, the group encourages medical students to make specific demands of their institutions, including that medical schools and hospitals end all relationships with local law enforcement.

When asked what severing ties with police would do in his urban emergency room, one ER doctor said it would be a "total disaster."  (...)

As another example of the generation gap, an ER doctor on the West Coast said he sees providers, particularly younger ones, applying antiracist principles in choosing how they allocate their time and which patients they choose to work with.  "I've heard examples of Covid-19 cases in the emergency department where providers go, 'I'm not going to go treat that white guy, I'm going to treat the person of color instead because whatever happened to the white guy, he probably deserves it.'"

Some in medicine would like to see such race-conscious bias mandated on an institutional level, particularly in regards to Covid-19, which has killed black, Hispanic, and Native American people at three times the rate as whites. These discrepancies are likely due to an array of factors, including income, housing, work, language, pre-existing conditions, access to health care, and, yes, possibly some degree of racism.

But some politicians and public health officials decided the remedy was to distribute vaccines by race.

Yhteisön kulttuurilla, omilla valinnoilla ja elämäntavalla ei tietenkään ole mitään merkitystä tuohon kuolemien määrään...

Quote"We've got this opportunity right now to advance really important, progressive reforms," one doctor said. "Every American understands that the system doesn't work, that we need better public health, we need better primary care." But this physician is concerned that "the people leading the woke effort have a deeply unsophisticated understanding of how change occurs in this country. It's dangerous. I'm fearful there's going to be a counter-reaction that's going to be huge and vicious and ugly."

Others fear the same. Another doctor on the call, a psychologist, called the new orthodoxy a "moral panic" and "symbolic crusade," like Prohibition, in which the outcome is less important than the sacredness of the movement.

"What happens with symbolic crusades is they overreach and you get a tremendous backlash," he continued. "If hospitals actually adopt a policy of what can be construed as favoring black people in the ICU, can you imagine what conservative media would do with that? It would play into every fear that what this is really about is suppressing liberty, chilling free speech. I didn't used to think those fears were legitimate. Now I do. I get it."
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.06.2021, 00:06:46
Quote from: sancai on 07.06.2021, 23:15:15
Tämä kriittinen rotuteoria on siitä mielenkiintoinen aate eurooppalaisessa kontekstissa, että täällä sitä ei sulateta. Seinä on tullut vastaan valtavirtapuolueiden osalta jo esimerkiksi Ranskassa ja Britanniassa. Ranskassa Emmanuel Macron ja lukuisat valtavirran poliittiset vaikuttajat asettuivat näyttävästi tätä aatetta vastaan ja Britanniassa Konservatiivipuolue, joka siis vastaa konservatiivisuudeltaan Suomen Kokoomusta, perusti BLM-protestien seurauksena työryhmän, joka tuotti pitkän selvityksen, että Britannia ei ole rakenteellisesti rasistinen maa. Yhdysvalloissa valtamedia asettui Macronia vastaan ja haukkui hänet valkoisen ylivallan kannattajaksi sellaisia valheita viljellen, että Macron itse soitti päätoimituksiin korjatakseen valheet. Ilmeisesti kriittisen rotuteorian tuoma rotusegregaatio ja rotuidentiteettien omaksuminen on liikaa eurooppalaiselle tasa-arvokäsitykselle. Seuraan mielenkiinnolla, miten tämä etenee Suomessa.

Brittien suhteen on ehkä toivoa, että siellä on aitoa halua estää tuon hulluuden leviäminen, mutta vähän kiikun kaakun on tilanne sielläkin. Esim. "vihapuhe"lakien suhteen tilanne ei ole ollenkaan hyvä. Jotenkin olen skeptinen melkeinpä kaikkien länsimaiden suhteen. Ja Micronin vastustukseen en luota pätkääkään. Ranskassa kansa ehkä on oikeasti noita hullutuksia vastaan, ja he tunnetusti siellä myös osoittavat mielipiteensä, mutta Microni haluaisi kyllä vetää ihan "käsikirjoituksen mukaan". Ainoa syy sille, että hän näyttelee vastustavansa näitä marxismisekoiluja on Le Penin pelko. Saas nähdä, uppoaako Micronin kusetus ranskalaisiin. Micronin todellinen asenne nähtiin kyllä reaktiosta pariin Ranskan armeijan upseerien kirjeeseen.

Suomen kannalta noilla kummallakaan maalla ei tässä suhteessa sinänsä liene juurikaan merkitystä. EU:ssa valta on tiukasti komukka-Merkelillä, tuolla Euroopan ensimmäisellä wokeistilla, ja hänen lakeijoillaan. Ja hänen pillinsä mukaan täällä Suomessakin tanssii kaikki puolueet Persuja lukuun ottamatta. Ja Niinistö mukaan lukien, vaikka joskus vähän nariseekin. Niinistöstä voisi sen verran mainita, että tuo hemmo tulee nähdäkseni tekemään kautensa loppuun asti kaiken mahdollisen sen eteen, ettei Halliksesta tulisi pääministeriä. Järjetön persuviha suorastaan tihkuu äijästä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.06.2021, 10:46:00
Quote from: sancai on 07.06.2021, 23:15:15
Tämä kriittinen rotuteoria on siitä mielenkiintoinen aate eurooppalaisessa kontekstissa, että täällä sitä ei sulateta. Seinä on tullut vastaan valtavirtapuolueiden osalta jo esimerkiksi Ranskassa ja Britanniassa. Ranskassa Emmanuel Macron ja lukuisat valtavirran poliittiset vaikuttajat asettuivat näyttävästi tätä aatetta vastaan ...

Ranskankirjeenvaihtajani oli vähän sitä mieltä, että tässä oli mukana aika paljon mukana sitä, että koska kansalla ei ole mitään harhakuvia mustien vaikutuksesta yhteiskuntaan, niin kyseessä oli Macronin strateginen yritys estää poliittisten vastustajien kannatuksen nousu.

Macron nyt kuitenkin on mokuttajia, ja keltaliivien vastustaja/vihollinen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jetsku on 08.06.2021, 11:58:43
Quote from: zupi on 07.06.2021, 23:23:55Yhteisön kulttuurilla, omilla valinnoilla ja elämäntavalla ei tietenkään ole mitään merkitystä tuohon kuolemien määrään...

Ei tarvitse olla kovinkaan kummoinen sosiologi, kun huomaa, mistä tämä johtuu. Kovimpien koronalukujen aikaan todistin moneen kertaan omin silmin, kuinka nämä ei-kantikset kokoontuvat huoltsikoille, juna-asemille, ostareille ynnä muihin vastaaviin paikkoihin kuin mitään koronaa ei olisikaan. Kulttuurityypillisesti kohdatessa kätellään ja halitaan, kaverille puhutaan 20 sentin etäisyydeltä, ja mistään maskeista ei ole tietoakaan. Joo, varmaan nuo asuvat ahtaammin kuin kantikset, mutta eivät ne turvavälit isossakaan kodissa kovin helposti pysy. Muista en tiedä, mutta minä ainakin olen ollut läheisessä kontaktissa vaimoni kanssa viimeisen 15 kuukauden aikana. Korona ei ole tarttunut, koska kumpikaan ei ole sitä saanut kodin ulkopuolelta.

Tämä CSJ on kyllä ihan karmivaa settiä. En kuuna päivänä olisi uskonut vuosituhannen vaihteessa, että Suvi-Anne "En koskaan minkään sortin sosialisti" Siimeksen vasemmiston ja Mooseksen demarien - sekä tietysti Neuvostoliiton kaatumisen ja uskonnon roolin vähenemisen myötä kovaa vauhtia liberalisoituvassa yhteiskunnassa - jäljiltä 20 vuotta myöhemmin meillä olisi iso vasemmisto, joka vannoo mielipidepoliisin ja rotusorron autuuteen. Ilmeisesti on niin, että jos ihmiset eivät itse näe hirmuvaltaa, he tulevat sokeiksi omalle hirmuvallalleen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.06.2021, 22:57:21
Quote from: K. Martel on 07.06.2021, 21:22:44
https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000008032964.html

QuoteRepublikaaneja ja muita konservatiiveja on syytetty siitä, että käyttävät alun perin rakenteellisen rasismin tunnistamiseen tarkoitettua, vuosikymmeniä vanhaa akateemista termiä kaatopaikkana, jonne voidaan heittää kaikki rasismin vastaiset ja yhteiskunnan monimuotoisuutta edistävät pyrkimykset.

Yhdysvaltain kulttuurisodan viimeisin rintamalinja on siis piirretty käytännössä siihen, tulisiko koululaisille opettaa historiaa ja kansalaistaitoja kriittistä rotuteoriaa työkaluna käyttäen. Kysymyksestä näyttää myös tulevan ensi vuoden välivaalien isoin kulttuurinen kiistakapula.

Asiaan liittyen:

https://christopherrufo.com/crt-briefing-book/ (https://christopherrufo.com/crt-briefing-book/)

QuoteKEY CONCEPTS AND QUOTATIONS

Race essentialism: Critical race theory reduces individuals to the quasi-metaphysical categories of "Blackness" and "Whiteness," then loads those categories with value connotations—positive traits are attributed to "Blackness" and negative traits are attributed to "Whiteness." Although some critical race theorists formally reject race essentialism, functionally, they often use these categories as malicious labels that erase individual identities.

(...)

All whites are racist: Critical race theorists argue explicitly that "all white people are racist" and perpetuate systems of white supremacy and systemic racism. This concept is deeply related to race essentialism—whites, including small children, cannot escape from being racist.

(...)

America is a fundamentally racist nation: Critical race theorists argue that American was founded on racism, slavery, and white supremacy—and remains a fundamentally racist nation to this day.

(...)

Collective guilt: Critical race theory claims that individuals categorized as "White" are inherently responsible for injustice and oppression committed by white populations in the past. This concept is sometimes framed as "white guilt," "white shame," and "white complicity," which are psychological manifestations of collective guilt.

(...)

Opposition to equality under the law: Critical race theorists explicitly reject the principle of equality under the law, including the Fourteenth Amendment and the Civil Rights Act of 1964. They argue that legal equality, nondiscrimination, and colorblindness are mere "camouflages" (Tate, 1997) used to uphold white supremacist structures.

(...)

Opposition to meritocracy: Critical race theorists oppose meritocracy, especially standardized testing and competitive admissions in the education system. They claim that meritocracy is a mechanism to uphold racist structures and is derived from "racism, nativism, and eugenics" (Au, 2013).

(...)

Active racial discrimination: Critical race theorists believe that the state must actively discriminate against racial groups that are deemed "privileged," meaning whites and sometimes Asians. Critical race theorists support policies such as racial quotas, race-based benefits, and race-based redistribution of wealth.

(...)

Restriction of free speech: Critical race theorists believe that the First Amendment serves to advance the interests of white supremacy and systemic racism, under the guise of freedom of speech. They argue that the government should restrict freedom of speech that is "racist" or "hateful."

(...)

Abolition of whiteness: Critical race theorists believe that society should work to "abolish the white race." Although they often insist that this means dismantling cultural constructions associated with white identity, this language often adopts tropes associated with race eliminationism.

(...)

Neo-segregation: Critical race theorists endorse a new form of racial segregation—often called "racial affinity groups" or "racial caucuses"—with separate meetings, facilities, living quarters, and training programs for whites and racial minorities. The assumption is that whites must "do the work" to address their "internalized racial superiority" and racial minorities must be protected from invasive "whiteness."

(...)

Anti-capitalism and forced redistribution of property: Critical race theorists have adopted the core Marxist position of anti-capitalism, arguing that America is an "imperialist white supremacist capitalist patriarchy" (hooks, 2012). They argue that "whiteness, initially constructed as a form of racial identity, evolved into a form of property" (Harris, 1993), allowing whites to extend domination from slavery into the free-market society. The solution is to redistribute private property and dismantle the system of capitalism.

QuoteCritical race theory in schools

- Seattle Public Schools told teachers that the education system is guilty of "spirit murder" against black children and that white teachers must "bankrupt [their] privilege in acknowledgement of [their] thieved inheritance." Link.

- San Diego Public Schools accused white teachers of being colonizers on stolen Native American land and told them "you are racist" and "you are upholding racist ideas, structures, and policies." They recommended that the teachers undergo "antiracist therapy." Link.

- A Cupertino, California, elementary school forced third-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities, then rank themselves according to their "power and privilege." They separated the eight-year-old children into oppressors and oppressed. Link.

- A middle school in Springfield, Missouri, forced teachers to locate themselves on an "oppression matrix," claiming that white heterosexual Protestant males are inherently oppressors and must atone for their "covert white supremacy." Link.

- A Philadelphia elementary school forced fifth-graders to celebrate "Black communism" and simulated a Black Power rally to "free Angela Davis" from prison. At this school, 87 percent of students will fail to achieve basic literacy by graduation. Link.

- Buffalo Public Schools taught students that "all white people" perpetuate systemic racism and forced kindergarteners to watch a video of dead black children warning them about "racist police and state-sanctioned violence" who might kill them at any time. Link.

- The Arizona Department of Education created an "equity" toolkit claiming that babies show the first signs of racism at three months old and that white children become full racists—"strongly biased in favor of whiteness"—by age five. Link.

- The California Department of Education passed an "ethnic studies" curriculum that calls for the "decolonization" of American society and has students chant to the Aztec god of human sacrifice. The solution, according to one author, is "countergenocide." Link.

- North Carolina's largest school district launched a campaign against "whiteness in educational spaces"—and encouraged teachers to subvert families and push the ideology of "antiracism" directly onto students without parental consent. Link.

- Santa Clara County Office of Education denounced the United States as a "parasitic system" based on the "invasion" of "white male settlers" and encouraged teachers to "cash in on kids' inherent empathy" in order to recruit them into political activism. Link.

- Portland Public Schools trained children to become race-conscious revolutionaries by teaching that racism "infects the very structure(s) of our society," and telling students to immerse themselves in "revolution." Link.

- The principal of East Side Community School in New York sent white parents a "tool for action," which tells them they must become "white traitors" and then advocate for full "white abolition." Link.

- Students at the elite United Nations International School launched an anonymous social media campaign denouncing their teachers as "racists" and "oppressors"—and school administrators immediately caved to their demands. Link.

Että sellaista "rasismin vastaisuutta", sellaista "yhteiskunnan monimuotoisuuden edistämistä", ja sellaista "historian ja kansalaistaitojen opetusta"...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 09.06.2021, 19:19:33
^ Samalla aiheella jatketaan. Alkuun lyhyt Lindsayn twiittiketju:

[tweet]1402642753679466501[/tweet]

QuoteCritical Race Theory begins with the belief that race is imposed upon "people of color" (by "white supremacy," thus whites), says this is bad to the point of requiring a revolution to unmake it, and then intentionally imposes white racial identity on whites, as a negative only.

When Robin DiAngelo says there's no such thing as a "positive white identity" after spending 150 pages explaining why whites need to be aware of their racial identity because that's what Critical Whiteness Studies, as a subdivision of Critical Race Theory, exists to do, it's this

Robin DiAngelo has an earlier, less famous book called "What Does It Mean to Be White?" It's not just her. This is the raison d'etat for Critical Whiteness Studies (part of Critical Race Theory). Barbara Applebaum explores it in Being White, Being Good (2010), before DiAngelo.

Kimberlé Crenshaw and other Black Feminists were writing about the "imposition" of racial categories as an exercise of power in the 1980s and 1990s. THEY KNOW IT'S WRONG; THEY KNOW IT'S RACISM. They do it willfully and maliciously anyway. Not to build up anything but to tear down

The "justification" for this malice in Critical Race Theory is that white people already racialized the system, and that can't be escaped without a total revolution, therefore leveling the playing field is only possible by imposing racism on whites. No uplift. Only tearing down.

"Equity" proceeds along this same destructive line (because it's the same thing, being the name given to the "solution" to this invented problem). It only tears down. It cannot build. It's this way because Critical Race Theory fundamentally believes the system is terrible.

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1402642753679466501 (https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1402642753679466501)

Innostuksen kyseiseen twiittiketjuun Lindsay taisi saada tästä uudesta tieteellisestä artikkelista:

[tweet]1402628195334098948[/tweet]

QuoteOn Having Whiteness

Whiteness is a condition one first acquires and then one has—a malignant, parasitic-like condition to which "white" people have a particular susceptibility. The condition is foundational, generating characteristic ways of being in one's body, in one's mind, and in one's world. Parasitic Whiteness renders its hosts' appetites voracious, insatiable, and perverse. These deformed appetites particularly target nonwhite peoples. Once established, these appetites are nearly impossible to eliminate. Effective treatment consists of a combination of psychic and social-historical interventions. Such interventions can reasonably aim only to reshape Whiteness's infiltrated appetites—to reduce their intensity, redistribute their aims, and occasionally turn those aims toward the work of reparation. When remembered and represented, the ravages wreaked by the chronic condition can function either as warning ("never again") or as temptation ("great again"). Memorialization alone, therefore, is no guarantee against regression. There is not yet a permanent cure.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/00030651211008507 (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/00030651211008507)

Yllätys yllätys, kirjoittajalla, Donald Mossilla on muuten muitakin mielenkiinnon kohteita:

QuoteWith 40+ years of clinical experience, author of 4 books, 60+ articles, winner of the Elizabeth Young-Bruehl award from the IPA for his work against prejudice, current Program Chair of APsaA, Moss is a founding member of Green Gang, a group of analysts and scientists focusing on climate change and its denial. Recent articles include "Our Crying Planet" (Psychoanalytic Quarterly) and "Defensive Representational Strategies in a Time of Cataclysmic Climate Change" (Journal of Applied Psychoanalytic Studies). Just returned from giving a Plenary Address in South Africa, "On Having Whiteness", he is working on his next book, "Hating, Abhorring and Wishing to Destroy", appearing in 2020.

https://www.helixcenter.org/participants/donald-moss/ (https://www.helixcenter.org/participants/donald-moss/)

Tähän settiin sopii mukaan tämäkin:

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-psychopathic-problem-of-the-white (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-psychopathic-problem-of-the-white)

Quote'The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind'
A psychiatrist lecturing at Yale's Child Study Center spoke about 'unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way.'

A few weeks ago, someone sent me a recording of a talk called "The Psychopathic Problem of the White Mind." It was delivered at the Yale School of Medicine's Child Study Center by a New York-based psychiatrist as part of Grand Rounds, an ongoing program in which clinicians and others in the field lecture students and faculty.

When I listened to the talk I considered the fact that it might be some sort of elaborate prank. But looking at the doctor's social media, it seems completely genuine.

Here are some of the quotes from the lecture:

- This is the cost of talking to white people at all. The cost of your own life, as they suck you dry. There are no good apples out there. White people make my blood boil. (Time stamp: 6:45)

- I had fantasies of unloading a revolver into the head of any white person that got in my way, burying their body, and wiping my bloody hands as I walked away relatively guiltless with a bounce in my step. Like I did the world a fucking favor. (Time stamp: 7:17)

- White people are out of their minds and they have been for a long time.  (Time stamp: 17:06)

- We are now in a psychological predicament, because white people feel that we are bullying them when we bring up race. They feel that we should be thanking them for all that they have done for us. They are confused, and so are we. We keep forgetting that directly talking about race is a waste of our breath. We are asking a demented, violent predator who thinks that they are a saint or a superhero, to accept responsibility. It ain't gonna happen. They have five holes in their brain. It's like banging your head against a brick wall. It's just like sort of not a good idea. (Time stamp 17:13)

- We need to remember that directly talking about race to white people is useless, because they are at the wrong level of conversation. Addressing racism assumes that white people can see and process what we are talking about. They can't. That's why they sound demented. They don't even know they have a mask on. White people think it's their actual face. We need to get to know the mask. (Time stamp 17:54)

Mistäpä tuollainen asenne voisi kummuta... (kriittinen teoria, kriittinen rotuteoria, intersektionaalisuus, jne., saman sontakikkareen eri osia)

QuoteKatie Herzog, who wrote yesterday about the spread of wokeness in medicine, interviewed the psychiatrist who delivered the talk, Dr. Aruna Khilanani.

QuoteI know you have a background in critical theory. How did you go from academia to psychiatry?

My masters is in humanities and the focus is largely on critical theory. I don't know if you're familiar with the University of Chicago, but it was very critical theory-heavy when I went. I did pre-med stuff in undergrad and had always been thinking of these issues. I also majored in English Lit and wondered about other ways of thinking. And I was interested in the unconscious for a long time, so it wasn't that big of a jump for me.

QuoteTalk to me about the unconscious. What is this?

Critical theory is about how you are positioned in the world. Ever since I was a little kid, since I've interacted with people who are white, and especially white women, I would notice that things were really off. So what I've done by going through psychoanalytic training, which is all about getting in touch with the unconscious, is literally work backwards. I'm like, "Ok, I've noticed that white people tend to put me in certain roles. White women will experience me this way, white men will experience me this way." I'm going to use psychoanalysis to work backwards and treat all of this as a projection to see what I can learn about their mind.

Mutta muistakaa jälleen, että oikeasti näissä CSJ-aatteissa on kyse rasismin vastaisuudesta, yhteiskunnan monimuotoisuuden edistämisestä, sekä historian ja kansalaistaitojen opettamisesta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 09.06.2021, 19:28:56
Marc Lamontin haastattelussa Rufo ei suostunut sanomaan valkoihoisista mitään positiivista ja nyt tämä:
QuoteI love this. Ten percent of all marriages in America are interracial. We have the power to transcend racial divisions, but critical race theory seeks to deepen them. Thanks to Martin & Takyrica Kokoszka—two Chicago Public School teachers—for speaking out.
[tweet]1401706524288819203[/tweet]
Muutamia kommentteja Rufon twiittiin:
QuoteYou love this? That's 10 percent too many.
QuoteThe conservative case for european extinction?
QuoteCRT: "We need to end whiteness and dismantle white identity."

Rufo: "Same."
QuoteYeah, what's the point of Rufo's work? He supports white erasure like any other lefty. Either preserve the white race or go full globohomo. People in the middle are grifters wasting everyone's time
QuoteLol this is literally pointing us towards the same goal of CRT which is "abolishing whiteness"
QuoteWhen you have friends like @realchrisrufo, who needs enemies?
QuoteFirst, you have nothing positive to say about White people. Now, you promote the same shit they do?
QuoteDon't you realise that what you are advocating for when you say "transcend racial divisions" is basically the same thing the critical race theorists want when they say they wish to "abolish the white race"?
QuoteYou love biological White erasure? How are you any different from the anti-Whites you claim to oppose? You're pushing the same anti-Whiteism. Disgusting.
QuoteYou should tell your Jewish bosses at the Manhattan Institute (chaired by Paul Singer) that Jews and Palestinians have the power to transcend racial divisions, but Zionism only seeks to deepen them. You should point to mixed Arab/Jewish couples as the way forward.
QuoteMiscegenation is degenerate and when you advocate for it you advocate for White genocide.
QuoteSo thats your motivation. You are also in an interracial relationship. The only solution for racial divisions is peaceful separation, not to breed yourself out of existence.
QuoteChris is promoting White Extinction. What's the point of his work if he is no different than leftists who also what white erasure? "Transcend race" is the same as "abolish white race"
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 10.06.2021, 00:48:40
Quote from: zupi on 09.06.2021, 19:19:33
(...)
Mistäpä tuollainen asenne voisi kummuta... (kriittinen teoria, kriittinen rotuteoria, intersektionaalisuus, jne., saman sontakikkareen eri osia)
(...)

Tämä tuli vähän niin kuin tilauksesta... Lyhyesti; jos kriittisen teorian ja kriittisen rotuteorian ajatusmaailman yhteneväisyydet eivät ole riittävä todiste siitä, että ne ovat saman sontakikkareen eri osia, niin kelatessa historiaa taaksepäin löytyy ihan "faktuaalinen" yhteinen tekijä. Niin kuin löytyy noilta kaikilta uusmarxismiin pohjautuvilta sekopäisyyksiltä. Tässä nyt vedettiin vain ihan "lähteelle" asti.

https://newdiscourses.com/2021/06/when-critical-theory-took-on-race/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2021/06/when-critical-theory-took-on-race/)

QuoteWhen Critical Theory Took on Race

June 9, 2021 Matthew Nielsen

Critical Race Theory (CRT) has been gaining traction in organizations throughout the Western world for over 50 years, but increasingly so for the past 5 years leading up to 2021. It is either highly criticized or highly-regarded, with little room for fence-sitting—a phenomenon facilitated by the widespread adoption of social media. This essay will attempt to provide additional information about the connections between Critical Race Theory and its philosophical parent Critical Theory (CT).

A thorough reading of the historical development of both philosophical disciplines reveals a genealogy that is closer than simple intellectual similarities.

(...)

Critical Race Theory

What is it?

Everything in our world is power, the distribution of which is mediated by race (e.g. broad categorizations of Asian, Black, Caucasian, Hispanic, Native, Pacific Islander, etc.).[1] Every human construction, from governments to homeschool co-ops, are embedded in racial structures that fundamentally build or dismantle racism and white supremacy. All people, regardless of socioeconomic status, location, or personality cannot help but perpetuate or undermine systems of racial oppression. This is Critical Race Theory in a nutshell.

For adherents of this theory, Martin Luther King, Jr's dream is idealistic nonsense. The only path of progress is through the rubble of a completely dismantled America. (...)

As a result, racism cannot ever truly be solved, according to CRT. This belief creates a truly dangerous situation. Children are being taught that they live in a society that is riddled with racism and hate. They are being told that, due to factors outside their control—their melanin levels—they are oppressed, or they are the oppressors. They are also being taught that there is no resolution to this problem. Consider what havoc this is likely to wreak on young minds. (...)

Where did it come from?

Like many ideas, CRT is the product of the combining of other, older ideas. In this case, it started as Critical Legal Studies—the combination of race relations (arguably the social issue of the late 1960's in America) and the study of the law. A man particularly well-positioned to push this new theory forward, the founder of Critical Race Theory, was Harvard Law professor Derrick Bell. Bell (1930-2011) was the first black tenured law professor at Harvard. He was 40 years old at the time of his hiring.

The ideas and works of Derrick Bell are largely variations on a theme that was laid out over 65 years earlier by W.E.B. Du Bois (1868-1963). While Bell continues to be seen as the modern founder of CRT, his ties to Du Bois, if only conceptually, are readily acknowledged by CRT scholars.[3]

(...)

Critical Theory


What is it?

Everything in our world is power. Systems and structures are created to maintain and build upon that power. Governments, organizations, businesses, and even hobby clubs exist solely to maintain and build power. Critical Theory's goal is to intellectually emancipate society from oppression. Critical Theory is "...practical in a distinctively moral (rather than instrumental) sense."[4] In other words, "critical" arguments are formed and founded in rhetoric—only. You cannot test their claims with any instrument of measurement. This is Critical Theory in a nutshell.

So, if you can't test its claims, how can anyone know whether its claims are true or not? This requires faith or 'suspension of disbelief,' whichever you prefer. What value does it really have to anyone? So far, it's been a very effective method of creating additional faculty jobs at universities. It has the added benefit of creating for its proponents social protections that are granted to 'allies of the oppressed.'

Where did it come from?

Goethe University Frankfurt was one of the preeminent universities during the interwar period of the early 1900s. During this time, the Institute for Social Research was created by Friedrich Pollock and Felix Weil with a professor of political law and economy at University of Vienna named Carl Grunberg installed as its first director. (...) All of them were neo-Marxists. While they agreed with Marx, they felt many gaps were left in his writings that required development and explanation. The Institute (now commonly referred to as The Frankfurt School) was formed with the vision of filling in those conceptual gaps through the work of its members. (...)

Some of the Frankfurt School's more recognizable names include Horkheimer, Marcuse, Adorno, and Grunberg. (...)

The ideas that emanated from the scholars of the Institute for Social Research—Critical Theory—continue to influence the Western world today.

A Common Thread

Gustav von Schmoller was one of the frequently-mentioned professors in W.E.B. DuBois' letters back home. Carl Grunberg also studied under Schmoller during his stint at Strasbourg from 1872-82.

While no one can be completely sure exactly how much influence Schmoller had on either DuBois or Grunberg, it seems perfectly reasonable to surmise that it was more than zero. And, given both of Schmoller's eminent students went on to espouse similar positions on the proper framework through which to judge reality, the possibility seems even more likely.

So, who is Schmoller, then? He was born in Heilbronn, Germany in 1838. His father, as a civil servant in Wurttemberg, was a wealthy and influential man with connections to those in power. (...)

After working for his father for some time, rather than stick to government work, Schmoller decided to teach at a university. He was already a committed "communitarian," having gained and retained full faith in the state's ability to manage the entire economy in such a way that productivity and efficiency would be maximized.

For Schmoller, economic theory required a thorough consideration of all potential factors that could affect economic activity. And, as he himself had prescriptions for what the ideal society should look like, he provided social commentary willingly.

Economic behavior is embedded in a cultural style specific to one epoch, one historical structure of meaning, which happens to favor an economic style marked by certain "habitual moral sentiments" (Schmoller 1923a, 22), values, and norms. Therefore, if the most elementary object of economic analysis, economic action, has an ethical, cultural, and religious dimension, then the economic theory purporting to explain it must also encompass the interrelationship of ethical, cultural, and religious factors.[7]

Schmoller sought and advocated for social reforms in the name of social justice that aligned with his prescriptions. He reasoned that the study of political economy was properly oriented when it was focused on the psychology of economic action. "The true desideratum of economic research was, therefore, a psycho-social description of the motivations of human action."[8]

Conclusion: Intellectual Brothers

Schmoller's ideas about the psychology of economics found expression in W. E. B. Du Bois' work on the influence of racism in American economic and political life. Carl Grunberg's Institute for Social Research was the birthplace of Critical Theory—an admixture of Schmoller's psychology of economics and Marxism, where Marxism is the interpretive structure and economic psychology is the object of study. Both Du Bois and Grunberg were communists—with Du Bois writing a series of articles in support of Marxism during the 1930s and ultimately joining the Communist Party very late in life in 1961.[9] Both of them believed in a worldview that categorized everyone as oppressor or oppressed. Du Bois critiqued society using race as a frame of reference. Grunberg used social class as his.

Both Critical Theory and Critical Race Theory have at least one common progenitor: Gustav von Schmoller. Their common teacher joins Du Bois and Grunberg as intellectual brothers if their works did not show enough similarities to comfortably make that claim.

QuoteMatthew Nielsen is Founder and Board Chair at the Educational Freedom Institute, a 501c3 nonprofit organization. His forthcoming book on harmful ideologies in K-12 classrooms will be released in late 2021. You can follow him on Twitter at @matthewnielsen.

Tässä yhteydessä pitää muistuttaa tästä:

QuoteKansalaisaloitteen otsikko
Antirasistiset strategiat ja kriittinen näkökulma opintosuunnitelmiin

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3303649.html#msg3303649 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3303649.html#msg3303649)

Ja taas, 23 095 kannatusilmoitusta...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 10.06.2021, 11:07:03
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.06.2021, 12:35:17
Tämä olisi hyvä muistaa etenkin Suomessa. Vaikka täällä kriittinen rotuteoria termi ei olekaan muodissa, niin täysin samaa sontaa opetetaan mm. kriittisen teorian ja feministisen pedagogiikan (käytännössä intersektionaalinen feminismi) termien alla. Näitä siis tuputetaan (mm.) opettajakoulutuksessa, ja voittepa uskoa, että vaikkei koulujen opetusohjelmissa mainita näitä termejä, niin jotkut (monet?) opettajat kyllä pyrkivät tunkemaan näitä oppimiaan asioita oppilaiden kurkusta alas. Jälleen tulee mieleen opettajien reaktio PS-nuorten "ilmiantokampanjaan"... Monikohan esim. "rakenteellisesta rasismista" nykyisin jauhava muuten edes tietää, että se ei ole mitään muuta kuin hullumarxistien sekopäinen keksintö?

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QuoteAs you can probably imagine, the massive rebranding of Critical Race Theory is about to begin in schools, etc., now that people know what it is and don't like it. (Next step will be to rebrand and criticize CRT itself while still doing CRT.) Gotta keep your eyes open.

If they are teaching about racial privilege, they're teaching CRT. If they are teaching about racial equity or racial justice (outside of narrow, historical uses), they are teaching CRT. Words like "voices," "decolonize," "transformative," "diverse," etc. are giveaways.

Currently, essentially everything related to "inclusion" is treated under a Critical Social Justice (thus, when racial, Critical Race Theory) lens. There are various ways for them to downplay this, like saying "whiteness" isn't really part of CRT, or CRT is just about law.

The truth about Critical Theories in general is that they are abusers of language and manipulators. They will gladly say "Culturally Responsive Teaching (CRT)" isn't "Critical Race Theory (CRT)" so "you don't even know what's happening." They probably arranged that on purpose.

We talk a lot about the virtues and skills needed to combat Critical Race Theory and Critical Theories more generally, and I only rarely mention discernment. Discernment requires knowledge and wisdom, so you must get informed and pay attention. If it feels wrong, dig.

This, though, is why it's so important to combat Critical Social Justice Theory at the level of what it DOES, not by its name. To these liars and manipulators, the names are all disposable. You have to stop their stereotyping, scapegoating, discrimination, segregation, etc.

Regarding Queer Theory, they're probably less apt to rebrand and more apt to accuse you of encouraging childhood suicides if you don't give them their way. You have to stand firm and ban inappropriate sexualization, unscientific characterizations, etc. Then it gets ugly.

Ja tämä ei vaan meinaa mahtua Kepun ja Kokkarien idioottien kaaliin:

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Tai ehkä tuo mahtuu, mutta siitä ei välitetä mitään, koska sen avulla on niin kiva lyödä Persuja. Jossain vaiheessa sitten taas ihmetellään, että mitenkäs tässä nyt näin kävi... Kun ruvetaan kohtelemaan täysin todellisuudesta irrallaan olevia ideologioita, kuten ne olisivat jotenkin puhtaasti "hyviä", ja niiden edistämiseksi kaikki on sallittua (lakien rikkominen ja demokratian murentaminen mukaan lukien), niin miten joku voi kuvitella, että tuosta koituu loppupeleissä jotain hyvää? Sekin on hyvä muistaa, että kun on kerran todellisuudesta irrottauduttu, niin se ideologia voi sen jälkeen kääntyä ihan mihin suuntaan tahansa.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 12.06.2021, 20:44:07
Tässä taas yksi hieno upea nainen terveellä itsetunnolla vastustaa mm. kriittistä rotuteoriaa.. ja kannustaa vanhempia, opettajia ja oppilaita puolustamaan itseään.. vaikka pelkäävätkin..

https://www.toddstarnes.com/education/watch-school-boards-cuts-mic-after-teacher-stands-up-against-crt/

https://twitter.com/iandprior/status/1402417063059234821
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 14.06.2021, 12:50:10
Ettäs tiedätte...

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Oikeasti:

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QuoteCritical Race Theory, n.: The belief that (systemic) racism is the fundamental organizing principle of Western societies.

NB: "Systemic racism" is a neo-Marxian concept, not an actual phenomenon. It is the name given for the Marxian conflict-theory "power dynamic" that is believed to create structurally and materially deterministic class stratifications by race. It's a magical concept.

"Systemic racism" is the organizing principle of Western societies, and it defines a Marxian superstructure known as "white supremacy" that outlines how it allegedly works. Marxian superstructures aren't real. They're divisive fables rooted in grotesque collectivism.

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Ja toisaalla...

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Quoteit's easy to make fun of this young girl, because look, she's so delusional! she thinks dying her hair makes her a boy! ha ha!

but what you're really watching is a young vulnerable person being psychologically abused by and inducted into a destructive ideological group.

this is so manipulative, but unfortunately it's super common. and then when this love bombing and cult manipulation leads you to make choices that devastate your life they'll tell you it was all your decision and you should have known better.

these experiences are overwhelmingly gratifying to kids who have probably spend a lot of time being rejected, bullied, and ignored at home and by peers. it's textbook love bombing.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 14.06.2021, 13:54:38
QuoteThe entire point of CRT is to provide the intellectual justification for the hatred, displacement, and eventual genocide of people of European decent. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either an idiot or controlled opposition.
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QuoteCritical Race Theory is the logical conclusion of the narratives the "civil rights" movement was based on.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 15.06.2021, 11:09:25
Tämä on tainnut olla täällä aiemminkin, mutta laitetaan kuitenkin uudestaan. Positiivista syrjintää... Tuo CRT:n "aasialaisongelma" on vain jotenkin niin hauska, miten woke-sekopäät yrittää kiertää ja selittää sitä.

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Mutta juna puksuttaa eteenpäin...

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Ja toisaalla, globaalit megafirmat on niin ihquja.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 15.06.2021, 15:25:18
Quote'North Korea was crazy, but not this crazy': Columbia student, 27, who escaped Stalinist dictatorship warns wokeism is stifling freedom of speech at US universities just like in her homeland

(...)

Yeonmi Park and her mother fled North Korea to China over the frozen Yalu River in 2007, when she was just 13, and the two were sold into slavery by human traffickers.

They were ultimately able to flee to Mongolia with the help of Christian missionaries and trekked across the Gobi Desert to eventually find refuge in South Korea, where Park, now 27, attended college before transferring to Columbia in 2016.

(...)

'I expected that I was paying this fortune, all this time and energy to learn how to think,' she told FOX News. 'But they are forcing you to think the way they want you to think.'

'I realized, 'Wow, this is insane,'' she recounted, 'I thought America was different but I saw so many similarities to what I saw in North Korea that I started worrying.'

Park said that her professors would give them 'trigger warnings' and allow them to opt out of readings and discussions.

'Going to Columbia, the first thing I learned was 'safe space,'' she told the New York Post.

She explained that when she started school at Columbia, she was excited to learn more about history, a subject she said was discouraged in her homeland.

But when her teacher, discussing Western Civilization, asked if students had an issue with the name of the class topic, most did, saying there was a 'colonial' slant.

'Every problem, they explained us, is because of white men,' she said, reminding her of her home country where people were categorized based on their ancestors, according to the Post.

During her orientation, a professor asked who the class who liked classical books, like Jane Austen.

'I said, 'I love those books,' Park said in an interview with FOX News. 'I thought it was a good thing.'

'Then she said, 'Did you know those writers had a colonial mindset? They were racists and bigots and are subconsciously brainwashing you.'

From there, she said, her classes were filled with 'anti-American sentiment, reminding her of her childhood in North Korea, where students were constantly taught about the 'American bastard,' which was the only way they were allowed to refer to Americans.

(...)

'It felt like the regression in civilization,' she said.

Eventually, she said she 'learned how to just shut up' so she could get good grades and graduate, but, she said, 'Even North Korea is not this nuts.'

'North Korea was pretty crazy,' she said, 'but not this crazy.'

'I don't know why people are collectively going crazy like this or together at the same time.'

Many of the classes at Columbia, she said, would teach the students about how white men have ruined everything, despite leaders like Mao Zedong killing political dissidents.

'Because I have seen oppression, I know what it looks like,' Park said, adding that she saw people dying of starvation by the time she was 13.

'These kids keep saying how they're oppressed, how much injustice they've experienced,' Park said of her fellow students. 'They don't know how hard it is to be free.'

(...)

But, she said, here in America people 'are just dying to give their rights and power to the government.

'That is what scares me the most,' she said, adding: 'Power can corrupt, that's just the nature of power.'

'In North Korea, I literally believed that my Dear Leader was starving,' Park said, referring to Kim Jong Un.

'He's the fattest guy - how can anyone believe that? And then somebody showed me a photo and said 'Look at him, he's the fattest guy. Other people are all thin.' And I was like 'Oh my God, why did I not notice that he was fat?' Because I never learned how to think critically.'

'That is what is happening in America,' Park concluded. 'People see things, but they've just completely lost the ability to think critically.'

She said she did not understand how that could happen in the United States.

'North Koreans, we don't have Internet, we don't have access to any of these great thinkers, we don't know anything,' she said. 'But here, while having everything, people choose to be brainwashed. And they deny it.'

'You guys have lost common sense to a degree that I as a North Korean cannot even comprehend.'

Now, she says, she fears America is going to become like North Korea.

'Where are we going from here?' she asked, rhetorically. 'The future of our country's as bleak as North Korea's if we do not rise up right now.'

'There's no rule of law, no morality, nothing is good or bad anymore, it's complete chaos.

'I guess that's what they want,' she said,' to destroy every single thing and rebuild into a communist paradise.'

In her memoir, In Order to Live, Park warned that Americans were censoring and silencing each other through cancel culture.

'Voluntarily, these people are censoring each other, silencing each other, no force behind it,' she said.

'Other times (in history) there's a military coup d'etat, like a force comes in taking your rights away and silencing you. But this country is choosing to be silenced, choosing to give their rights away.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9686415/Columbia-student-escaped-North-Korea-says-sees-similarities-US.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9686415/Columbia-student-escaped-North-Korea-says-sees-similarities-US.html)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.06.2021, 22:18:50
Tanskassa ihmiset alkaa todellakin tulla järkiinsä. Saas nähdä, onko mitään vaikutusta.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0TyPyOgQ2EQ&t=70s (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0TyPyOgQ2EQ&t=70s)

Tanskaan liittyvä osuus alkaen noin 14:15.

Varsinainen ilmoitus konekäännöksenä:

QuoteAbout excessive activism in certain research environments.

On proposals for adoption

The Folketing has the expectation that the university managements will continuously ensure that the self-regulation of scientific practice works. This means that there is no unification, that politics is not disguised as science, and that it is not possible to systematically evade justified professional criticism. Universities are originally a hallmark of Europe, with roots in the Middle Ages. Nowadays, they function as crucial societal institutions that form a framework for free and critical thinking. The basic principle of the free university is an academic self-regulation. It consists in the research community, through free and critical debate, reaching a consensus on both the ideas that the research community considers to be viable and on the ideas that, in the light of the critical debate, cannot be maintained. The Folketing has the same right as all other assemblies of citizens, or citizens individually, to express views on research results. But it does not determine what can be researched or how.

https://www.ft.dk/samling/20201/vedtagelse/v137/index.htm (https://www.ft.dk/samling/20201/vedtagelse/v137/index.htm)

Alkuperäinen kysymys oli ilmeisesti tämä:

QuoteAbout excessive activism in certain research environments.

Ministerial area:
Ministry of Education and Research

The query:

Does the Minister agree that in certain humanities and social sciences research environments there are problems with excessive activism at the expense of scientific virtues, and does the Minister agree that such a trend calls for action similar to the showdown announced by the French Government, and the study of the scale of the problem that it has launched?

https://www.ft.dk/samling/20201/forespoergsel/f49/index.htm (https://www.ft.dk/samling/20201/forespoergsel/f49/index.htm)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.06.2021, 22:30:21
Quote from: zupi on 10.06.2021, 11:07:03
Peter Boghossian - Combatting Social Justice Rhetoric:  A Cheat Sheet for Policy-Makers

Kuva talteen.

EDIT: se olikin jo tallessa, mutta on niin hyvä, että laitetaan tämä uudelleen esille. Tällaista kokonaisnäkemystä olenkin kaivannut.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.06.2021, 20:41:35
Natsi, joka esittää olevansa psykoanalyytikko, kertoo, että valkoisuus on parasiittinen sairaus, johon ei ole parannusta. Uunien kolina kuuluu jo vaimeasti taivaanrannasta.

Quote from: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/00030651211008507?journalCode=apaa&;On Having Whiteness
Donald Moss
Journal of the American Psychoanalytic Association

First Published May 27, 2021 Research Article Find in PubMed
https://doi.org/10.1177/00030651211008507
Article information

Abstract

Whiteness is a condition one first acquires and then one has—a malignant, parasitic-like condition to which "white" people have a particular susceptibility.

The condition is foundational, generating characteristic ways of being in one's body, in one's mind, and in one's world. Parasitic Whiteness renders its hosts' appetites voracious, insatiable, and perverse. These deformed appetites particularly target nonwhite peoples. Once established, these appetites are nearly impossible to eliminate.

Effective treatment consists of a combination of psychic and social-historical interventions. Such interventions can reasonably aim only to reshape Whiteness's infiltrated appetites—to reduce their intensity, redistribute their aims, and occasionally turn those aims toward the work of reparation.

When remembered and represented, the ravages wreaked by the chronic condition can function either as warning ("never again") or as temptation ("great again"). Memorialization alone, therefore, is no guarantee against regression. There is not yet a permanent cure.

Keywords
racism, envy, groups, aggression
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lasse on 20.06.2021, 07:01:58
Mother from USSR destroying Equity, Marxism at the Board Meeting BCSD. Calling School Bolshevik. CRT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs70QLpBBvo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs70QLpBBvo)
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Good evening everyone.  I am a mother of three children in district. And I am very concerned. The proposed "Anti-racist program"  is just a prettier name for racial Marxist teaching. You don't need to sugar coat it for me. I lived it.  Same methods , same vocabulary, same preferential treatment to certain groups. That's why  equity is packed  with good causes like diversity and inclusion, so nobody can challenge it. But I know.

Ask me how I know?

I was born in Soviet Union and my family has seen it all. Suffering first from Nazi and then from tyrannical Soviet Ideology. Back there, what started with Equity for All - quickly ended with Nothing to Eat for my people.  And now my family is here because of it, because equity doesn't work . We did not come here for a blanketed synthetic  equity – we had enough of that one, we came here for Equal opportunity under the Law and freedoms in this country. 

Soviets extinguished all the excellence and opportunity. They told us they were advocates for equity  and enemies of privilege, people believed and we paid the awful price.  this ideology killed millions of people worldwide. And now you bringing it here to indoctrinate our children.  Equity was just a tool used by communists to make sure everyone was  equally poorly educated, so people didn't question authority. While in definition it was about fairness,  In reality it means same outcome - nobody excels, mind-boggling  sameness. The key tactic is to remove all the  incentive and  motivation to succeed for all the students.

Is this why Student Committee proposing less homework and audit of AP classes?   Why are you trying to demotivate students and lower the standards instead of directly helping underperforming students?  that's exactly  what equity means in reality, making everyone mediocre.

Yesterday I got a letter from school. The Marxist Equity mentioned 14 times. I have a message for everyone here,  this is not a Bolshevik Central Schoold District in Soviet Union, this is Bedford Central School District  in the United States of America.  I was born in Siberia, I had to switch the continents because of equity, I can and I will switch a school district if the equity gets pushed , but I will never switch on American Dream and equal opportunity for my chilldren, the very unique, which uplifts, gives second chances to people like me, motivates, and brings the best in the people regardless race and ethnicity and we have to protect it.  I know because I ve seen the other  side,  im here to warn you it's not pretty.

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On June 16th  '21  I put my words to action and took a stand for every hardworking immigrant, who came to this country with simply nothing, just a hope for the better future. Who seen the atrocities of Marxism and Communism first hand. For whom America was the most accepting, freedom loving,  peaceful bay until the very latest events.
   After communists failed on all grounds, impoverished and killed millions of people worldwide, they all moved to Academia. We can not let school indoctrinate our children, we have no other country to escape like we did once already.
Let people know Equity is anti-American. Please share the message, many people are focused on CRT. But if schools deny they use CRT and still have Equity written all over their policies, this is it - the end of freedom loving America !! Thank you for keeping the good fight for future of our kids !
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 22.06.2021, 11:38:08
Kun on ollut puhetta superrikkaan valtaeliitin ja sekopää-wokeistien perverssistä liittoutumasta...

QuoteHerlinien suvun päättäjä TE:lle: Intersektionaalisuus ja feminismi nyt keskeisiä

Jussi Herlinin mukaan monimuotoisuus on avainkonsepti, joka on otettava haltuun.

Kone Oy:n hallituksen varapuheenjohtaja Jussi Herlin, 36, esittelee näkemyksiään Talouselämässä. Hänen mukaansa feminismi parantaa bisnestä ja monimuotoisuus on ratkaisevaa niin yritysten kuin yhteiskuntien kilpailukyvylle.

#Intersektionaalisuus, #diversiteetti ja #feminismi ovat yhä "outoja" ja herkkiä termejä suomalaisessa johtajuusdiskurssissa – ainakin osassa piirejä. Nää on tän vuosikymmenen avainkonsepteja. Ennakoiva yrityspomo ottanee haltuun!, Jussi Herlin twiittasi helmikuussa.

(...)

Naisen ja ei-valkoisen henkilön kokemukset ovat erilaisia kuin ei-valkoisen naisen kokemus. Diversiteetti eli monimuotoisuus taas tarkoittaa, että tunnistamme tällaisen ihmisten monimuotoisuuden ja haluamme nähdä sitä myös organisaatioissa, työelämässä ja yhteiskunnassa laajemmin. (...)

Herlinin mukaan "viiden viime vuoden aikana monimuotoisuus, feministinen ajattelu ja yleisesti niin kutsutut pehmeät arvot ovat korostuneet. Totta kai silloin organisaatioiden pitää vastata näihin vaatimuksiin ja kehittyä niiden mukana".

(...)

– Tämä nivoutuu siihen suureen haasteeseen, että Suomesta ei ole onnistuttu vielä tekemään koko maailman huippuosaajille kutsuvaa paikkaa. Se, miten saamme Suomeen lisää maahanmuuttajia, on aivan ensiarvoisen tärkeää pidemmällä aikavälillä.

Monimuotoisuuden pitää näkyä kaikessa päätöksenteossa, hän vaatii.

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/herlinien-suvun-paattaja-telle-intersektionaalisuus-ja-feminismi-nyt-keskeisia/#57146451 (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/herlinien-suvun-paattaja-telle-intersektionaalisuus-ja-feminismi-nyt-keskeisia/#57146451)

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Jos joku vielä ihmettelee, miten nämä totalitaristiset uuskommunismisekopäisyydet tuntuvat vaan Suomessakin leviävän, vaikka niitä kannattaa vain minimaalisen pieni osuus väestöstä...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 22.06.2021, 23:03:41
Tällä kertaa aiheena trans-aktivismi ja se, miten valtamätä edistää tuota totaalista järjettömyyttä. Tuo on omasta mielestäni ehkä julmin woke-sekopäiden "aiheista". Lapset ja nuoret, erityisesti ja nimenomaan jollain tavalla haavoittuvassa asemassa olevat (woke-meiningin osalta yleisemmin pätee oikein hyvin myös yksinäisiin vanhuksiin, vaikka nuo paskapäät ei tietenkään ihan samalla tavalla siitä usko hyötyvänsä) nuoret, aivopestään paskomaan oma kehonsa. Ja toisin kuin woke-paskapäät lirkuttaa, sillä on todellakin hyvin kauaskantoisia seurauksia. Mutta siinä vaiheessa jos/kun nuori tulee järkiinsä ja tämän tajuaa niin todetaan vaan, että omapa oli päätöksesi, suksi kuuseen.

Tuon hulluuden taustalla nähdäkseni vaikuttaa queer-teoria, CRT:n ohella ehkä toinen "kriittisen sosiaalisen oikeuden" päähaaroista. CRT siis keskittyy rotuun, queer teoria kaikkeen sukupuoleen ja seksuaalisuuteen liittyvään. Loppujen lopuksi samaa sontaa tietenkin kaikki, mutta on nuo psykopaatit ilmeisesti saanut jo jotain riitoja keskenäänkin aikaiseksi. Kuka on kaikista kovimmin sorretuin...  :facepalm: Mutta siis tuosta queer-teoriasta, jälleen kerran James Lindayn sanoin:

QuoteQueer Theory is, in many respects, the most purely postmodern derivative of Theory (as compared, say, to critical race Theory, which is much more significantly critical, i.e., Neo-Marxist, in orientation, relatively speaking). That is because queer Theory owes a great deal very specifically to the French postmodern (or, poststructuralist) philosophers Michel Foucault (see also, Foucauldian) and Jacques Derrida (see also, Derridean). Foucault's relevance is of such central importance not least because of his attempts to address the power dynamics and social constructions around homosexuality throughout history and madness in his History of Sexuality and History of Madness (see also, discourses, power-knowledge, biopower, and episteme).

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-queer-theory/ (https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-queer-theory/)

Ja siis tuo Michel Foucault oli lastenraiskaaja pedofiili. Antaa ehkä jotain perspektiiviä siihen, mitä nuo paskapäät ovat tällä hetkellä tekemässä lapsille ja nuorille.

QuoteThe philosopher Michel Foucault, a beacon of today's "woke" ideology, has become the latest prominent French figure to face a retrospective reckoning for sexually abusing children.

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3292024.html#msg3292024 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3292024.html#msg3292024)

Ja poittihan tuossa queer teoriassa siis on, niin kuin taitaa olla kaikissa näissä psykopaattien jutuissa, että pitää olla mahdollsimman outo, ja sillä tavoin jotenkin edistää... jotain? No uuskommunismia tietenkin, ne aivopestyt lapset ja nuoret ei vaan tuosta tietenkään tajua mitään. Tässä yhteydessä nostan taas esiin tämän normaalin, järkevän trans-ihmisen kirjoituksen siitä, mitä on meneillään.

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,127992.msg3227943.html#msg3227943 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,127992.msg3227943.html#msg3227943)
https://quillette.com/2020/10/06/forget-what-gender-activists-tell-you-heres-what-medical-transition-looks-like/ (https://quillette.com/2020/10/06/forget-what-gender-activists-tell-you-heres-what-medical-transition-looks-like/)

Ja tämän kaltaiset ihmiset ovat nimenomaan juuri niitä woke-sekopäiden pahimpia vihollisia, koska he pyrkivät estämään sen, että woke-sekopäät pystyisivät käyttämään jälleen tätäkin vähemmistöä oman psykopaattisen totalitaristisuutensa tavoittelussa. Nämä ihmiset eivät halua muuta kuin elää rauhassa omaa elämäänsä samalla tavalla kuin muutkin, mutta sitten tulee kaiken maailman Komukka-Merkelit, korruptio-Bidenit, Kiilusilmät ja Pyllyttäret hyökkäämään kimppuun. Tuo jengi on pelkkää...

Niin joo, näin vapaalla meinaa unohtua, se Abigailin / Barin kirjoitus... Aiheena tässä siis oikeasti se, että nyt sensuroidaan kaikkia eri mieltä olevia, olivat he sitten mitten miten fiksuja, loogisia tai luotettuja tahansa. Jos olet eri mieltä valtamädän kanssa, niin... Notski pystyyn.

Quote
The Books Are Already Burning
The question is only: How long will decent people stand by quietly and watch it happen?

Bari Weiss:

(...)

How have we gotten here? How have we gotten to the point where having conversations about important scientific and medical subjects requires such a high level of personal risk? How have we accepted a reality in which Big Tech can carry out the digital equivalent of book burnings? And why is it that so few people are speaking up against the status quo?

I can't think of a person better situated to answer these questions than Abigail Shrier, the author of today's guest essay.

You may have heard of Shrier. She is the author of Irreversible Damage, which the Economist named one of the best books of last year, and a dogged journalist who has taken on the difficult and thankless subject of the enormous rise of gender dysphoria among teenage girls.

I say thankless because it's hard to capture the decibel of the vitriol that has met her work. To give you a taste: one of the ACLU's most prominent lawyers said that "stopping the circulation of this book and these ideas is 100% a hill I will die on." (The subject of how the ACLU came to favor book banning is taken up brilliantly here.) And this is to say nothing of the personal defamation of Shrier's character, smears that bear zero relationship to my courageous friend.

(...)

That is precisely the reason it is so important to stand up and say: no.
To say: progress comes only when we have the freedom to disagree. To say: It is outrageous that tech platforms are censoring such debates and that some journalists are cheering them on. To say, in public: enough. In my case, that means making sure to publish those voices who have been shut out of so many other channels that ought to be open to them.

— BW

(Abigail tästä eteenpäin)

One hundred and forty-six people in Halifax, Nova Scotia wait on a list to borrow a library book. A question hangs over them: Will activists let them read it?

The book is mine — Irreversible Damage — and it is an investigation of a medical mystery: Why is the number of teenage girls requesting (and obtaining) gender reassignment skyrocketing in the United States, Canada, Scandinavia and Europe? In Great Britain, it's up 4,400% over the last decade.

Though it shouldn't be, this has become a highly controversial area of inquiry. The book is an exploration of why so many girls would, in such a short timeframe, decide they are transgender. And it raises questions about whether they're getting appropriate medical treatment.

The book is not about whether trans people exist. They do. And it is not about adults who elect to medically transition genders. As I have stated endlessly in public interviews and in Senate testimony, I fully support medical transition for mature adults and believe that transgender individuals should live openly without fear or stigma.

(...)

There's a pattern to such censorship campaigns. A fresh example presented itself this past week at Science-Based Medicine, which bills itself as "a group blog exploring issues and controversies in the relationship between science in medicine."

On Tuesday, one of the blog's long-time contributors, Dr. Harriet Hall — a family physician and flight surgeon in the Air Force with dozens of publications to her name — posted a favorable review of my book. She examined the scientific claims as well as the medical ones and wrote that the book "combines well-researched facts with horrifying stories about botched surgeries, people who later regret their choices and therapists who are not providing therapy but just validating their patient's self-diagnosis." Dr. Hall not only shared my criticisms of "affirmative care" — that is, immediately agreeing with a teen's self-diagnosis of gender dysphoria and proceeding to hormones and surgeries — but also noted that many physicians and therapists feel the same way but are afraid to say so.

Within a day, Dr. Hall's article was flooded with nearly 1,000 comments, mostly, she says, from activists demanding the article be stripped from the site, but also from some readers expressing their appreciation. Angry emails from activists swamped the blog's editors. Within two days, those editors had given Dr. Hall an ultimatum: retract, rewrite, or allow them to add a disclaimer.

"What surprised me was that my fellow editors attacked me, too. Basically what they said was that my article was not up to my usual standards as far as medicine, science and critical thinking went. And I didn't feel that I did anything but what I always do. That surprised me," she told me. Considering the editors' ultimatum, she elected to have the editors who disagreed add a disclaimer to the website. "I told them I did not want it retracted. And the next thing I knew, they had retracted it."

Let that sink in: a book review by a respected physician was bullied out of existence in America.

(...)

It's not only corporations facing this type of activist pressure. Public libraries now do, too.

Halifax Pride, the annual LGBTQ festival, announced late last month that it would cut ties with the city's library system over its insistence on carrying Irreversible Damage, calling it "transphobic," and claiming that it "jeopardizes the safety of trans youth" and "debates the existence of trans people."

So far, the Halifax Public Libraries have resisted. Their position is straightforward and apolitical: libraries exist to expose the public to the widest array of views, "including those which may be regarded as unorthodox or unpopular with the majority."

The Halifax Public Libraries tried to compromise with the activists by pasting a note inside the book's cover, directing readers to a list of "trans-affirming" resources. But the activists were unappeased. No ties with the libraries were restored. They want the book gone from the library and scrubbed from existence. Two copies in a library of nearly 1.2 million volumes are two too many.

Not even the Nova Scotia Library Association or the Canadian Library Association has come to the library's defense, though their standing orders explicitly require member libraries "to guarantee and facilitate access to all expressions of knowledge and intellectual activity, including those which some elements of society may consider to be unconventional, unpopular or unacceptable."

(...)

Child and adult psychologists and psychiatrists write to say they have witnessed a surge in transgender identification among teen girls who seem to be acting under peer and social media influence. Teachers write to say they believe that the phenomenon is plainly an example of social contagion within their classrooms. Surgeons and pediatricians and endocrinologists write to wonder aloud at what has happened to their profession.

(...)

And so, for over a year, I responded to those silent supporters with thanks and reassurance. You don't have to speak out, just send me your documents — I will expose it for you. No need to stand up for me publicly, just tell me what you know. For a while, this seemed a decent bargain.

But then, a few months ago, a pediatrician reached out to say that she also thought it was insane that minors were self-prescribing testosterone and that she agreed that her profession was negligent in unquestioningly "affirming" the sudden trans-identification of teenagers.

The standard response didn't cut it this time. I wrote back as politely as I could: That's just not good enough. You are a doctor. We aren't the same with regard to medical scandals. I can continue to seek and publish the truth. I can interview experts and report what they've said. But you can appeal to your own authority. You took a Hippocratic oath. If you see young patients in harm's way, you have an obligation to do something.

The same is true for other professions. If you are a teacher, you entered the profession in order to expand young minds. If you are watching them being warped, it's your responsibility to fight that. If you are a journalist witnessing lies being spread by your colleagues, it's your responsibility to stand up for truth. If you are a professor, watching your colleagues being bullied — a med school professor watching hokum being peddled as fact, a scientist watching the corruption of research — there's no one else to speak up but you.

Each of us knows this in theory. But why do so few oppose the pressure, lies, and the corrupting force of these bullying campaigns?

The silent supporters have each performed the same risk-benefit calculation and arrived at the same conclusion: Speaking up isn't worth it. It could cost a job, reputation, peace and friends — it requires the assumption of risk and a willingness to sacrifice. 

And it is easy to justify our silence. We tell ourselves that we are protecting our families by remaining quiet and in the short-term, and we may be. But we are also handing our children over to a culture in which freedom of conscience and expression are drowned out. We are teaching our children that truth shouldn't be our primary concern — or at least, that truth is negotiable or subordinate to being agreeable. They are learning that it is more important to remain acceptable to the powerful than to be truly free.

Whether or not most people admit it, what keeps them from speaking up in the face of what they know is wrong is fear. Fear not primarily of unemployment, though that is a pressing concern, but fear of ostracism. (...)

So terrible is this fear and this pain that in ancient Rome, a person sentenced to death could opt for exile instead. The Romans understood that ostracism was a punishment as bad as death.

(...)

The first hundred or so silent supporter emails meant the most to me. They made me feel less crazy and less alone. But the inescapable reality is that defeating this ideology will take courage. And courage is not something that can happen in private. Courage requires each one of us to speak up, publicly, for what we believe in. Even when — especially when — it carries costs.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-books-are-already-burning (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/the-books-are-already-burning)

Ja tätä on siis kohtelu, mitä nuo vaikeuksistaan nousseet nuoret saa valtamädältä:

Quoteme: i was influenced to identify as trans by trans influencers and online communities that presented transition in a one sided and encouraging way to me when i was 14

twitter: source?

he source is my 5 year old twitter account and 3 years of podcasts and articles. if you cared that much you'd do some basic scroll research instead of DMing me and asking for sauces on my tweets.

one of these darn days i will do an analysis on my tumblr account to show exactly how my mind was warped on there. i sadly made it very difficult to see though, i can only access the archive which only has a few lines of each post

https://twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1407154685832843264 (https://twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1407154685832843264)

Ja en nyt jaksanut hakea, mutta netistä löytyy vähän Helenaakin ikävämpiä tarinoita.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: hyperbeli on 23.06.2021, 22:44:43
Quote from: justustr on 23.06.2021, 14:11:16
Quote from: nochWunder on 23.06.2021, 11:33:04
Kaikki nämä uudet feministilähtöiset aatteet, termit ja liikkeet tulisi leimata joko uusrasismiksi, uusseksismiksi tai uussovinismiksi!

Se on tärkeää.

No sen nyt voi ainakin sanoa, että mitään yleisesti käytössä olevia käsitteitä ei uudelleen määritellä foliohattuteorioilla. Johtuu ihan siitä, että suuri yleisö ei sellaista soopaa jaksa lukea. Tämä ketju on siitä hyvä esimerkki.

Aika foliohattuja kyllä löytyy tuolta yliopistonkin humanistisilta käytäviltä sanoja määrittelemässä. Silti joskus hommakin on onnistunut valtavirtaistamaan joitain käsitteitä. Esimerkiksi sana maahanmuuttokriitikko. En muista oliko se Jussin vain kenen termi ensin, mutta sitten hommalaiset hommas sitä termiä vähän sinne sun tänne ja tadaa: lehdistökin alkoi käyttämään sitä ja sitten se olikin jo valtavirtaa. Kriitikko oli parempi sana kuin vastainen tai muut sanat joita meihin yritettiin iskeä. Kriitikko on jotain intelligentimpää ja kritiikin pitää aina olla sallittua.

Siksi on aina hyvä yrittää määritellä asiat niin totuudenmukaisesti kuin mahdollista. Itse pidän tuosta uusrasisti määritelmästä. Se kalskahtaa vähän uusnatsilta ja kertookin siksi aivan erinomaisesti mistä tuossa kriittisessä rotuteoriassa ja intersektionalismissa on kyse.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 24.06.2021, 20:05:18
Luotettava ja vastuullinen valtamedia...

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Jääköön sanomatta, mitä tuosta MSNBC:n "haastattelijasta" tuli mieleen... "Mä en vaan anna ihmisten levittää valheita mun showssa"...

Joy Reid Schools Critical Race Theory Critic On Legal Scholarship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QhLW1A70G8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QhLW1A70G8)

Peukkuja ylös: 682, peukkuja alas: 1300...

Edit. Tämä on pakko päivittää. Peukkuja ylös: 1300, peukkuja alas: 12000. Mutta niin, tämähän on se mitä ihmiset yleisesti kannattaa...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.06.2021, 20:21:58
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QuoteLEAKED DOCUMENTS from Iowa School System show Teachers are FORCED to classify 'Make America Great Again" as a type of "racism" & "white supremacy."

This is done through MANDATORY Critical Race Theory training FORCED on teachers at taxpayer expense.

Trump won Iowa by +9 points

Teachers of Iowa are being INSTRUCTED to classify the vast majority of Iowan children as Racist & White Supremacist.

Iowa is Trump country. Trump carried 94 out of 99 Iowa counties in 2020. The Republican Governor endorsed Trump. The Iowa Senate/House is solid Republican.

This is a ROCK SOLID, REAL WORLD application of Critical Race Theory being used as a *political* weapon to target Republicans.

This is NOT education.

It is naked political vengeance using the state education system and our children's educators.

This training is CRT in practice

This training was MANDATED to ALL educators and employees of the Mississippi Bend Area Education Agency, one of the largest school districts in Iowa.

The training is stamped with the approval of the school district, which operates under the Iowa Department of Education.

At the time of this racist training House file 802 was working its way through the Iowa legislature. This bill explicitly banned this style of derogatory, offensive training in "mandatory diversity training for state and local government employees."

This Bill is now Iowa LAW.

The slide that lists "Make America Great Again" as white supremacist is also lists as racist:

- Columbus Day
- American Immigration Law
- "Mass Incarceration"
- "Denying white privilege"
- Believing America is "post racial"
- Believing people are part of a "human family"

Here is more from the Presentation.

This slide shows the "Levels" of Racism - Systemic, Institutional, Interpersonal, and Internalized.

Translation: Everything is racist and you are racist for being white.

This slide shows "Terms for Deeper Understanding" and links to two websites that define these terms citing the biggest proponents of CRT, Robin DiAngelo, Ibram X. Kendi and the creators of Critical Race Theory Jean Stefancic and Richard Delgado.

The presentation itself defines 'Critical Race Theory' as a tool for the destruction of America:

"Unlike traditional civil rights which embraces step by step progress, Critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order & principles of constitutional law"

Hundreds of educators and staff have been FORCED to take this training.  We have the sign in sheet. Attendees of the meeting were prompted to give their input on drafting an "Anti-Racism" Statement and break into groups to discuss their own whiteness and racism.

The Facilitator notes on this slide show that attendees were asked to question their own beliefs and basically forced to ask themselves if they might be racist for agreeing with the term "Make America Great Again".

More slides showing the purpose of the meeting, "Norms", their definition of "Equity" and "Silence Breakers"

The conclusion of the presentation prompts the instructors to "plan next steps for our shared learning and organizational growth in the fall."

They are planning on teaching this to your children next semester. This is illegal under Iowa Law. Will the law be enforced?

At the end of the training the Iowa teachers are given a reading list that includes:

- White Fragility: by Robin DiAngelo
- Racial Equity Tools Glossary
- Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X. Kendi
- Eurocentric Curriculum

This training is hard proof that Critical Race Theory is being used as a POLITICAL weapon specifically targeting Republicans. This is NOT education. It is political vengeance using the federal education system. They are starting with our children - even in DARK RED STATES.

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Asiallinen äijä:

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Heavy-D:

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.06.2021, 20:36:45
Vaihteeksi suomenkielistä kamaa. Selkeää sanoitusta äijiltä.

Woke ja totalitarismi | Jakso 249 | Heikelä & Koskelo 23 minuuttia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlXIt5hIaFM
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.06.2021, 21:04:12
^ Olipas hyvä jakso. Ainoa kauneusvirhe woke-hyysärin mukaan ottaminen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 27.06.2021, 16:49:08
Quote from: sancai on 27.06.2021, 12:11:27
Rasismi on pesiytynyt suomalaiseen koulu­maailmaan, sanoo tutkija: "Koulu voi olla tosi pelottava paikka"
https://www.hs.fi/kaupunki/art-2000008065892.html

Poiminta juttuun tulleista kommenteista:

QuoteHyvä tapa vähentää rasismia kouluissa on oppia näkemään oppilaat tarkemmin yksilöinä, jolloin heitä voi parhaiten ohjata heidän tarpeidensa pohjalta. Kun opettajat alkavat pitämään ihonväriä, omaansa tai muiden, relevanttina ominaisuutena, heistä voi tulla rasisteja sen sijaan että he torjuisivat rasismia. Yhdysvallat on käymässä läpi mankelia, jossa hyvältä kuulostavilla otsikoilla ("antirasistinen koulutus") instituutioihin tuodaan höttöisiä filosofisia ideoita (postmodernismi ja kriittinen teoria, joista critical race theory juontuu). Robin Di Angelo, joka valkoisuudesta näkyvimmin puhuu, on jo oppeineen kohdannut voimakasta kritiikkiä valtavirtalehdistönkin toimesta. Opettajankoulutus on ollut kuitenkin Yhdysvalloissa aktivismin vahvimpia tyyssijoja ja empiiristä tutkimusta kestämättömien ideoiden kumoaminen siellä haasteellisinta.

Mikäli tämän varjolla Helsingin kouluihin tuodaan critical race theoryn, erityisesti Robin di Angelon ja Ibram Kendin, ideoita, seurauksena voi olla näiden koulujen kannalta mahdollisesti merkittävä notkahdus opetuksen tasossa. Sen voi myös odottaa alkavan hiljalleen näkyä myös Pisa-tuloksissa. Yhdysvalloissa on viime vuosina ilmennyt varoittavia esimerkkejä "ontoiksi kalutuista" koulutusinstituutioista, joissa alati kasvava "antirasistinen työ" vie enenevästi resurssit koulun perustehtäviltä. Suomessa suosittelen lukemaan aiheesta Ilja Lehtisen "muutamia kysymyksiä antirasistista strategioista" tai oma "TeaK goes woke" -kirjoitukseni (löytyvät googlesta). Kommentoin aihetta yliopistolta (Turun yo:n psykologian laitokselta) ja pidän "wokenessin" ympärillä tapahtuvaa perustehtävään keskittymisen hankaloitumista sekä vapaan keskustelutilan kaventumista (USA:ssa) surullisina ilmiöinä. Liberalismiin on sisältynyt erinomaisia välineitä yksilöpohjaiseen antirasistiseen työhön ja niitä voimme jatkossakin menestyksekkäästi soveltaa. Ihonvärin kaltaisten ominaisuuksien tuominen kuvaan taasen vie meitä sivilisaationa taaksepäin.

Tässä kommentissa mainitut jutut, jotka ovat varsin pitkiä, mutta ainakin silmäilemisen arvoisia:

TeaK goes woke. Pehmeän kohteen oppitunnit muille instituutioille
http://oskarilahtinen.fi/1/teak-goes-woke-pehmean-kohteen-oppitunnit-muille-instituutioille/

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Aurora Rämön Suomen Kuvalehdessä ilmestynyt artikkeli (https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kulttuuri/shakespeare-on-rakenteellista-vakivaltaa-opiskelijaa-kohtaan-taidekoulut-luovivat-opiskelijoiden-vaatimusten-keskella/) osoittaa wokenessin viimeistään nyt rantautuneen kotimaiselle kampukselle – riippumatta siitä kuinka suuri osa TeaK:in opiskelijoista tai henkilökunnasta todellisuudessa sen agendaa nykyisin korkeakoulussa ajaa. Artikkelissa ja sitä seuranneessa keskustelussa ei kuitenkaan mielestäni ole kovin selkeästi kuvattu, mikä tämä taideopiskelijat villinnyt ilmiö oikein on. Pyrin avaamaan wokenessin relevantteja ideoita ja historiallisia käänteitä tässä kirjoituksessa, jonka pohjaan suurilta osin Helen Pluckrosen ja James Lindsayn kirjaan Cynical Theories. Muut lähteet on mainittu kirjoituksen lopussa.

Kutsun TeaK:ia pehmeäksi kohteeksi wokenessille, sillä olisin melko yllättynyt, jos ideologia löytäisi älyllisen kodin ensimmäisenä Helsingin tai Turun yliopiston filosofian laitoksilta. Näin siksi, että ainakin Turussa, kokemukseni mukaan, wokenessin tekemien väitteiden ja vaatimusten juuret tutkittaisiin niiden totuusarvon, näytön ja taustaoletusten osalta. Wokenessia deskriptiivisenä tai preskriptiivisenä oppina tarjoavalle opiskelijalle jäisi seminaarissa käteen pelkkä filosofinen luu. Teatterikoululle ideologian kriittiseen arvioon tarvittavat empiirinen tiede ja analyyttinen filosofia ovat vieraampia ja postmodernismi jo valmiiksi erityisasemassa talon sisällä. TeaK ja monet humanistiset laitokset ovat näin älyllisesti aseettomampia hurjia totuusväitteitä tekevän postmodernin sorto-opin edessä.

Mitä on wokeness? Kyseessä on yhdistelmä "metodologiaa" ja aktivismia. Metodologia on hipsukoissa, koska kyseessä on käytännössä vain pohjaton objektiivisen epäily ja dekonstruktio – kaiken kyseenalaistaminen, kunnes jäljelle ei jää mitään mille rakentaa. Dekonstruktion suorittivat enimmäkseen ranskalaiset filosofit 1960-luvun lopun ja 1980-luvun alun välillä, kärkiniminä Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida ja Jean-François Lyotard.
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Kun kommunistinen vallankumous ei tapahtunut Saksassa tai Iso-Britanniassa, joukko filosofeja (mm. Adorno, Horkheimer, Marcuse ja Habermas, ns. Frankfurtin koulukunta) sovitti marxismin uudelleen kulttuurin kentälle ja kutsui sitä kriittiseksi teoriaksi. Luokka ja luokkasorto laajenivat käsitteinä muihin yhteyksiin. 1980-luvulla kriittinen teoria kohtasi postmodernismin. Syntyi critical race theory, joka alkoi käyttää etnisyyttä luokan kaltaisena maailmankuvan peruspilarina. Luokkasorto väistyi ja tilalle tulivat rotusorto, sukupuolisorto ja seksuaaliseen suuntautumiseen liittyvä sorto.
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Yksilöllinen identiteetti työnnetään taka-alalle ja yksilön olennaisimmaksi ja kiinnostavimmaksi ominaisuudeksi nostetaan hänen jäsenyytensä erilaisissa pinnallisen samankaltaisuuden ryhmissä, joiden pohjalta häntä voidaan sortaa tai vaihtoehtoisesti nähdä sortajana. Tämän suunnan wokenessin historiassa sysäsivät käyntiin erityisesti Derrick Bell, bel hooks sekä Kimberlé Crenshaw.

Vähemmistöön kuuluminen kertoo wokenessissa yleensä sortostatuksesta, mikäli enemmistöllä on wokenessin mukaan enemmän valtaa kuin vähemmistöllä. Eri valta-asemissa olevien ryhmien välisten erojen selitys on lähtökohtaisesti sorto. Jos siis esim. Yhdysvaltain valkoisten tulot ovat korkeammat kuin Yhdysvaltain mustien, syy on itsestäänselvästi sorto, jota tässä tapauksessa kutsutaan rasismiksi.

Rasismin käsite on laajennettu wokenessissa kattamaan suurin osa länsimaiden asukkaista. Rasismilla ei tarkoiteta ensisijassa yksilön toiseen kohdistavaa ennakkoluuloista ja syrjivää suhtautumista, vaan koko järjestelmää, joka tuottaa etnisten ryhmien välille eroja. Rasisti on henkilö, joka osallistuu tämän järjestelmän ylläpitoon. Valkoihoisten osalta rasismin esiintyvyys on tällä määritelmällä 100%. Wokenessin silmissä jokainen valkoihoinen ihminen on rasisti. Mustien osalta esiintyvyys on 0%, koska henkilö, joka voidaan lukea kuuluvaksi ryhmään, jolla on keskimäärin vähemmän valtaa yhteiskunnassa, ei määritelmällisesti voi sortaa ketään. Hän ei siten osallistu sortavaan järjestelmään eikä voi olla rasisti.

Etnisyyksien välisissä suhteissa wokenessin vaikutus on siis musertava. Näiltä osin wokeness myös vesittää rasismin käsitteen: ei ole selvää miten kuvata todellisia rasisteja, jos kaikki valkoiset ovat rasisteja. Maailman tarkasteleminen sortosuhteiden kautta tekee wokenessin kannattajasta helposti epäluuloisen ja riitaisan. Ideologiaa tukevaa ihmistä opastetaan sovittamaan linssiä, joka saa kaiken inhimillisen kanssakäymisen näkymään ensisijassa sorron näyttämönä. Miltä ideologian soveltaminen näyttää sukupuolien osalta?

Lähtökohtaisesti postmoderni dekonstruktio on purkanut sukupuolet atomeiksi. Se mieltää sukupuolen sosiaaliseksi konstruktioksi ja kategoriat kuten "mies" ja "nainen" ovat löyhärajaisia ja olemassa lähinnä kielen tasolla.
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Wokeness syntyi yhdysysvaltalaisissa yliopistoissa 1980-luvun ja 1990-luvun taitteiden tienoilla. Oikeustieteessä sitä kutsuttiin critical race theoryksi ja naistutkimuksessa intersektionaalisuudeksi. Kyseessä on filosofisesti käytännössä sama keitos – toinen korostaa rotua, toinen sukupuolta. Wokeness siis olettaa asioiden olevan tietyllä tavalla ja etsii niille sitten empiirisiä oikeutuksia. Tämä on vastakohta tieteelle, joka olettaa asioiden olevan tietyllä tavalla ja etsii sitten asioita, jotka kumoaisivat oletuksen. Tiede on falsifikaatioon perustuvaa, wokeness on verifikationistista. Koska wokenessin metodologia on epätieteellistä, se tarvitsi omat laitokset, joissa tulla sovelletuksi.

Tähän tarkoitukseen syntyivät erinäiset "Studies"-oppiaineet tai laitokset. Gender Studies, Race Studies, Fat Studies, Disability Studies, Queer Studies. Sen sijaan että aiheita tutkittaisiin kumoamalla hypoteeseja, oletettiin sorto ensin olemassa olevaksi ja pyrittiin sitten löytämään ryhmien välisiä eroja, joiden sanottiin johtuvan sorrosta. Metodologiaa muovasi entisestään wokenessin haara, jota kutsutaan nimellä postcolonial theory. Se pyrkii "dekolonisoimaan" tutkimusmetodologian ja pitää logiikkaa, empiiristä tiedettä ja matematiikkaa – mielestäni muita ihmisiä kohtaan rasistisesti – valkoisten länsimaisten miesten välineinä. "Master's tools will never dismantle the master's house" totesi Audrey Lorde. Tieteellisen metodologian rinnalle pyrittiin nostamaan "vaihtoehtoisia tietämisen tapoja" – kansanperintöä, tunnereaktioita ja taikauskoa. "Research justice"-nimisellä kehotuksella tutkijoita ohjattiin viittaamaan artikkeleihin tieteellisen sisällön sijaan kirjoittajan etnisyyden pohjalta.
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Opiskelijat arvatenkin seuraavat jenkkikeskustelua somen, Youtuben ja muiden tahojen välityksellä. Yhdysvaltalainen teatteri on tullut wokenessin kaappaamaksi ensimmäisten instituutioiden joukossa vasemmistolaisen positionsa vuoksi ja epäilemättä opiskelijat ottavat suuntansa sieltä. Suosikkimusikaalini Hamilton, joka tietoisesti roolitti mustia ja latinonäyttelijöitä lähes jokaiseen keskeiseen rooliin on joutunut toistuvasti woke-hyökkäysten kohteeksi. Sitä on arvosteltu liiallisesta heteroudesta ja äskettäin siitä että näytelmässä kuvataan problemaattisia, orjia omistaneita Yhdysvaltain founding fatherseja – siitä huolimatta että melkein kaikkia mainittuja valkoisia miehiä näyttelevät pelkät vähemmistöjen edustajat. Vaikka musikaalin luoja Lin-Manuel Miranda on wokeakin wokempi, Hamiltonkaan ei lopulta ollut riittävän woke.

Rima nousee näin koko ajan ja siten vaadittu puritaanisuuden ja mielipiteiden samanlaisuuden aste. Ei ole yllätys, että Rämön jutussa kuvattu TeaK:in opiskelijoiden kokema taiteellinen vapaus on kuihtunut pisteeseen, jossa ainoita hyväksyttäviä linssejä taiteelle ovat ekokatastrofi ja wokeness. Vertaispaine on hurja voima. Jos olet opiskelija kannattaa kuitenkin katsoa ympärillesi. Wokeja opinkappaleita yhdenmukaisesti toistelevat vertaiset ovat nyt konformistisia zombeja. Ideologia on antitieteellinen ja tulee haihtumaan ajan kanssa ilmaan. Monet sitä kannattaneet lakaisevat vaiheen maton alle vähän kuin aiempien nolojen trendien seuraamisen.

On yksi asia dekolonisoida Shakespeare ulos TeaK:in kurssikirjallisuudesta, mutta moniko haluaisi leikkaussalissa nimenomaan sille kirurgille, jonka lääketieteen opinnot on dekolonisoitu sisältämään samoissa suhteissa luonnontieteitä ja vaihtoehtoisia tietämisen tapoja? Onko kansantiedon ja eletyn kokemuksen pohjalta operoiva kirurgi yhtä hyvä kuin dekolonisoinnilta välttynyt? Kummanlaisia ihmisiä haluamme miehittämään lennonjohtoa tai lentämään lentokoneita? Oppimäärien dekolonisointi voi alkaa nopeasti maksaa henkiä, mikäli se leviää TeaK:ista Otaniemeen tai Meilahteen.

Näistäkin syistä TeaK:in henkilökunnan olisi hyvä koota itsensä ja selvittää, miltä arvopohjalta korkeakoulu pyörii. Rämön jutussa mainitussa Haidtin ja Lukianoffin kirjassa kuvataan wokejen opiskelijoiden maailmankuvien "kolme suurta epätotuutta": 1) että tunteet kertovat aina totuuden maailmasta, 2) että ahdistusta ja epämukavuutta tulisi aina välttää ja 3) että vikaa tulee etsiä aina itsen ulkopuolelta. Psykologiasta tiedämme hyvin, että ahdistuneisuutta ei hoideta välttämällä vaan altistumalla. Tämä TeaK:in opettajienkin olisi hyvä huomioida.

Wokeness voidaan nähdä tieteellisen maailmankuvan stressitestinä – kun joukko äänekkäitä ja hieman uhkaavia ihmisiä tuuttaa absoluuttisella varmuudella yhtä totuutta, jolla ei ole tekemistä empiirisen tieteen tai logiikan kanssa, kuinka hyvin oma jalansija kestää? Mikäli hahmottaa liikkeen filosofisen taustan ja sen, mille edistys maailmassa perustuu, koitoksen ei tulisi kellistää yhtäkään korkeakoulutettua ihmistä saati instituutiota. Yhdysvaltain esimerkki kuitenkin osoittaa, että moni taho tulee feilaamaan älyllisen stressitestin.
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Alkusana: Mikäli tämä teksti leviää laajemmalle, saatan saada osakseni wokea kritiikkiä. Totean siis alkuun muutaman perusasian. Pidän rasismia ja muuta syrjintää todellisina ja kaikkia ihmisiä koskevina ongelmina, jotka haluan ratkaista. Wokeness ei mielestäni ratkaise, vaan – korostamalla ihmisten pinnallisia eroja, syyttelemällä ja enimmäkseen väistämällä ratkaisujen tarjoamisen – pahentaa kyseisiä ongelmia.

Muutamia kysymyksiä antirasistisista strategioista
https://iljalehtinen.medium.com/muutamia-kysymyksi%C3%A4-antirasistista-strategioista-74aef7286012

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Viime päivinä somessa on kohistu suuntaan ja toiseen suomalaisen taidekoulutuksen tilanteesta. Kukaan alan kehityskulkuja seuraava on tuskin voinut välttyä seuraamasta viimeaikaisia, monenkirjavia puheenvuoroja liittyen "rakenteelliseen väkivaltaan", opetusohjelmien sisältöihin, opiskelijoiden ja opettajien välisiin ristiriitoihin ja niin edelleen.

Sytykkeenä keskustelulle on toiminut Suomen Kuvalehdessä 11.12. julkaistu juttu (https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kulttuuri/shakespeare-on-rakenteellista-vakivaltaa-opiskelijaa-kohtaan-taidekoulut-luovivat-opiskelijoiden-vaatimusten-keskella/?shared=1148185-b8710b50-4) "Tämä ei ole nyt ookoo", jota viime viikonlopun mittaan jaettiin laajalti somessa. Juttu käsitteli suomalaisten taidekoulutuslaitosten piirissä esitettyjä vaatimuksia uudenlaisten opetussisältöjen ja toimintapojen muuttamiseksi.
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On myös sangen kuvaavaa, että harva haluaa puhua tekstin käsittelemistä asioista avoimesti ja julkisesti omalla nimellään — ainakaan mistään sellaisesta näkökulmasta, joka voitaisiin tulkita millään tapaa kriittiseksi esitettyjä vaatimuksia ja niihin liitoksissa olevia diskursseja kohtaan.

Kyse ei ole vain teatterikentästä. Myös muilla akateemisilla aloilla julkista puhetta ja tiettyjen aiheiden kommentointia pyritään välttelemään — olletikin jonkinlaisen leimaantumisen pelossa. Tällainen kehityssuunta — varovaisuuden ja jopa pelon ilmapiirin leviäminen — on jo sellaisenaan huolestuttavaa: ainakin nyt akateemisen vapauden, julkisen keskustelun ja demokratian itsensä kannalta. Tämä riippumatta siitä, kuinka toivottavana nyt käynnissä olevaa muutosta ja sen ottamia suuntia itse kukin pitää.
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Kesällä taidealan ammattilaisten ja opiskelijoiden keskuudessa jaettiin laajalti opiskelijoiden koostamaa adressia, jossa vaadittiin "antirasististen strategioiden" integroimista osaksi taidekoulutuslaitosten opetussuunnitelmia. Koska adressin on allekirjoittanut yli tuhat taidelaitosten nykyistä ja entistä opiskelijaa, oletan sen edustavan laajalti sellaisia kantoja ja jäsennyksiä, joiden taakse muutosta vaativat ovat valmiita sitoutumaan. Adressi toimii nähdäkseni tällä hetkellä perustelluimpana lähtökohtana opetusta ja taidealaa kohtaan esitettyjen vaatimusten luonteen arvioimiselle.

Itse en allekirjoittanut kyseistä addressia. Pyrin nyt esittämään joitakin perusteluita tälle allekirjoittamatta jättämiselle.

Ikävä kyllä, tällaisen asian "tunnustaminen" tuntuu lähtökohtaisesti uhkarohkealta. Toivonkin, ettei puheenvuoroni asetu yksinomaan osaksi sitä kiistämättä käynnissä olevaa leiriytymis- ja heimoutumisdynamiikkaa, joka pitkälti luonnehtii nykyistä, voittopuolisesti digitaalisissa tiloissa käytävää kulttuuridebattia. (Tästä dynamiikasta ja sen vaikutuksista — eritoten tiedostamattomista sellaisista — omaan psyykeeseen olisi, sivumennen sanoen, itse kunkin syytä olla tietoinen.) Toivon, että tätä tekstiä mahdollisesti seuraava jatkokeskustelu keskittyisi esittämiini argumentteihin, pikemminkin kuin affiliaatioiden tai "puolien" paikantamiseen.
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Tästä huolimatta on välttämätöntä todeta, että olen valitettavasti joutunut monasti kohtaamaan rotu- ja representaatiokysymysten käsittelyn äärellä hyvin yksipuolisia, moraalisesti puritaanisia ja ideologisesti dogmaattisia suhtautumistapoja. Myös SK:n jutusta kummunneessa keskustelussa on kyetty paikantamaan tietynlainen fanaattisuus, joka mainitunkaltaiseen ajatteluun toisinaan sisältyy.
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Kuitenkin pakottaudun toteamaan, että adressin esittämä päättelyketju asian tiimoilta on omituinen. En osaa tulkita tekstikohtaa mitenkään muuten kuin lukemalla, että ongelmaksi paikannettu "epätasainen jakauma" oppilaistossa viittaa lauseeseen, jonka mukaan "enemmistö Suomen korkeakouluopiskelijoista on valkoisia". Väite on hämmentävä.

On näet sangen selvää, että perussyy siihen, että enemmistö Suomen korkeakouluopiskelijoista on valkoisia, löytyy siitä sosiologisesta tosiseikasta, että ehdoton valtaosa Suomessa asuvista ihmisistä on etnisesti suomalaisia!
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Sen tosiasian, että enemmistö suomalaisista korkeakouluopiskelijoista on "valkoisia", käyttäminen merkkinä "epätasaisesta jakaumasta", so. rakenteellisesta syrjinnästä, on paitsi älyllisesti laiskaa, myös vaarallista.
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Kysymys ei liity vain opetussisältöihin ja opetuksen laatuun. Se koskee myös taiteellisen toiminnan luonnetta. Adressi näet katsoo, että antirasismiin on sitouduttava myös "sisällöllisesti ja esteettisesti". Mitä tämä oikeastaan tarkoittaa?

— Eittämättä sitä, että jotkin (opetus)sisällöt ja jotkin estetiikat voidaan katsoa rasistisiksi ja todeta tuomittaviksi? Hyvä on. Mutta mitkä? Kenellä on valta määritellä antirasismiin sitoutumisen aste ja onnistuneisuus?

Kenties rodullistetuilla ihmisillä? — Mutta kuten olemme ylempänä nähneet, kaikki rodullistetut eivät ole tässä suhteessa yhtäläisiä: olletikin Makwan Amirkhanin kaltaiset "valkoisuuden puolelle lipsahtaneet" maahanmuuttajat eivät ole valideja lähteitä (anti)rasistisuuden arvioimiselle.
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Rasismia ja rotuproblematiikkaa voi kuitenkin lähestyä myös muunlaisista lähtökohdista. Entä afroamerikkalaiset woke-liikettä kohtaan kriittiset intellektuellit, kuten vaikkapa Coleman Hughes, John McWhorter tai Glenn C. Loury? Entäpä "valkoisuuden" käsitteen monoliittisuutta ja poliittista hankaluutta aatehistoriallisesta näkökulmasta analysoinut Nell Irwin Painter? Ayaan Hirsi Ali? Anter Yaşa? Ovatko nämä valideja keskusteluun tuotavia näkökantoja?

Entä — jos näyttämötaiteesta puhutaan — historiallisesti merkittävät, mutta representaatioidensa ja tekijäpositioidensa puolesta mahdollisesti "ongelmalliset" näyttämötekstit kuten Shakespearen Othello, Jean Genet'n Les Nègres tai Bernard-Marie Koltésin Combat de nègre et de chiens? Tai, sanotaanko, Kenian teatterihistorian merkkiteos, Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'on ja Ngugi wa Miriin Ngaahika Ndeenda, joka eittämättä porautuu dekolonisaatioproblematiikan ytimeen, mutta samalla tukee ja toisintaa perinteisiä kenialaisia hierarkkisia sukupuolirooleja?

Kuinka ne sopivat vaadittuihin opetussisältöjen muutoksiin?
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Adressissa vaaditaan myös "eurosentrisyyden" purkamista. Opetuksessa käsiteltyjen kulttuuriperinteiden alan laajentaminen onkin sinänsä aiheellinen tavoite. Omassa opetuksessani muistan saaneeni merkittäviä oivalluksia esimerkiksi Kaakkois-Aasian musiikki- ja teatteriperinteiden, uralilaisen shamaaniperinteen, sekä Amazonin heimojen rituaalikäytäntöjen käsittelystä. Tällaisen opetuksen määrää on aihetta lisätä.

Kannattaa tässä yhteydessä kuitenkin ottaa myös huomioon, että oikeusvaltion, vapaan tiedonvälityksen, ihmisoikeuksien ja tasa-arvon kaltaiset normit sekä niitä tukevat rakenteet ovat historiallisesti Euroopassa syntyneitä ilmiöitä. Samoin kuin, sivumennen sanoen, kommunismin, sosialismin ja feminismin kaltaiset aatesuuntaukset. Ne pohjautuvat historiallisesti eurooppalaiseen ajatteluun, ja sellaisena ovat eittämättä ainakin joillakin kriteereillä "eurosentrisiä" jäsennyksiä maailmasta. Eivät ne missään nimessä kritiikin ulkopuolella ole, mutta ennen kuin kaiken "eurosentrisyyden" purkamista lähdetään painokkaasti vaatimaan, olisi varmaankin hyvä tiedostaa, minkälaiset panokset pelissä ovat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 27.06.2021, 21:07:41
Tilanne alkaa eskaloitumaan kriittisen rotuterorian vastustajien suhteen.
QuoteThis all started because Rufo, Borysenko, and others suddenly decided to signal hard against white identity and make that a central point of their movement. This wasn't started because anons decided they weren't pure enough--the anti-CRT crowd decided we needed to be purged
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QuoteAt some point, stuff like this has to be challenged and called out. The anti-CRT movement is going to be big tent, but if the central figure is supporting open borders and white erasure, that's what you'd call "problematic"
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QuoteTucker Carlson is right, calling what the Left is pushing on your children and in our military "Critical Race Theory" is inaccurate.

It's Anti-White Racism that is being pushed by the Left.
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QuoteChris Rufo endorses The Great Replacement
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QuoteChris Rufo: CRT isn't anti-white, it's anti-ASIAN!
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QuoteThe "anti-CRT leader" promoted by GOP and FOX news is anti-White. So rumor is that the anti-White anti-CRT group had a meeting in Montana last week where they decided to now shift focus on to the "evils" of White identitarianism.

"No identity for you European."
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Quote"Anyone who says that Critical Race Theory is antiwhite — you're gonna get blocked."
- Karlyn Borysenko
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QuoteAmericans of different racial backgrounds can build on a shared culture.

I have more in common with a black American than I do with a Finnish fisherman; and a black American has more in common with me than with a Congolese farmer.

Let's unite around that shared experience.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.06.2021, 20:20:48
En tiedä mihin tämä kuuluisi, joten survoin tänne. Lisäsin numerot.

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60.   Trump said all Mexicans rapists
61.   5 people murdered at Capitol
62.   No immunity via C19 infection
63.   Trump tear gassed Lafayette Sq
64.   Hillary didnt hide any emails
65.   Its illegal to view Wikileaks
66.   Trump had secret Russia server
67.   Clinton-Lynch Tarmac was fine
68.   Katie Hill is the victim
69.   Toobin made a small mistake
70.   Trump pays no taxes
71.   Brazille never leaked questions
72.   Manafort visited Assange
73.   China never paid Hunter
74.   Pelosi's hair salon set her up
75.   W.E.F. is a benign organization
76.   Meat is bad for the environment
77.   Feinsteins staffer wasnt CCP
78.   Podesta emails were doctored
79.   Omar didnt pay husband $2.8M
80.   Amazon = 'Lungs of the Earth'
81.   Clinton foundation helped Haiti

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 29.06.2021, 00:26:24
Rufo on ok. Kriittinen rotuteoria on tarkoitettu edistämään marxilaista vallankumousta. Saatanan sosialistit ja kommarit ovat jo saaneet näytille monta yritystä ihannevaltion luomiseksi. CRT (myös Cathode Ray Tube) on täyttä jöötiä
Sosialistinen/kommunistinen valtio ei ole todellakaan mikään valkoisen miehen onnela ja vielä paskempaa on elo komukoiden ihannevaltiossa diktatuurissa kärsien (Kiina, Pohjois-Vietnam ja mustien yritykset Afrikassa). Venäjä kai sitten voidaan ristiä oligarkiaksi.
Afrikan orjakauppiaat mm. somalit ovat ihan viattomasti kuskanneet väriveljiä, -siskoja ja -lapsia orja markkinoille.
Englsnnissa aloitettiin liike orjuuden lopettamiseksi. Tämä maailman sivu tehty jako vapaisiin ja orjiin pelaa edelleen jossain muodossa esim. Somaliassa.
Ja PERKELE, mitä VITTUA ovat kantasuomalaiset velkaa ulkomaalaisillle (EU-rosvoille , kehitysrahoja ties mihin hukkaprojektiin).
Suomessa viherpunan tuomat kultamunakoneinsinöörit ovat jo vähin puhein todettu työkyvyttömyyseläkeläisiksi kotimustalaistemme tapaan.
Kasvilajeja ja eläinpopulaatioita saa kutsua vieraslajeiksi. Kävisikö kulttuurivieraiksi tituleeraaminen?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.06.2021, 13:06:23
Eräällä amerikkalaisella koulutyöntekijällä tuli mitta täyteen...

QuoteDaniel Concannon, a site coordinator for the Manchester School District's 21st Century Community Learning Center (21CCLC) program, has had it with the race-shaming curriculum and has resigned in epic fashion.

He's not taking it anymore and he makes that clear in this resignation letter, below, which is Brilliant!

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The redaction is mine – the unredacted image can be viewed here.

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Note: Site Coordinator for 21CCLC at Northwest Elementary School, is a district administrative position.

June 28, 2021

Tom McGee
21CCLC Program Director
Manchester School District
a.k.a. The Temple of Equity
20 Hecker Street
Manchester, NH 03102

cc: Superintendent John Goldhardt; Chief Equity Officer (lol) Mary Steady; HR Director Christopher Cody; Board of School Committee

Human Wedgie McGee,

I hereby resign as 21CCLC Site Coordinator in light of The Frankfurt School Manchester School District's endorsement of the dehumanization and hatred of White people, as evidenced by their dissemination of the imbecilic "White Privilege" curriculum presented by the intellectual titans at "Learning For Justice," an organization founded by America's eternal arbiters of truth and morality – the SPLC – where senior fellow Mark Potok's office is decorated with celebratory charts of the declining percentage of White people in the United States and Europe. Despite MSD's inability to abide by its own Anti-Harassment policy and the complete lack of respect and procedure MSD is owed in return, I will honor my obligation to provide two weeks' notice. Surely, though, in the interest of the greater good of humanity, MSD will unburden itself of my unendurable "Whiteness" by exercising its discretion to "excuse an employee from such notice and relieve an employee from his or her position immediately."

Whoa. Seriously? "His or her???" OMG. Wow just wow. I can't even.

How is Manchester School District still operating on this archaic binary? Oh where, oh where is the equity? As a Transfeminine-Spectrasexual-Non-Libidoist-Subaru-Forester-Basset-Hound-Hybrid with a mixtape of surgical errors for genitals, I am non-binarily outraged at Manchester School District's stunning failure at inclusivity of Soft Butch, Stone Butch, Panromantic, Genderdormant, Cupiosexual, Trigender, Polygender, Demigender, and Left-of-Gender peoples, and I call for the resignation and immediate gender reassignment surgery of Superintendent Goldhardt, Chief Equity Officer (lmao) Steady, and all other District Administrators and Board of School Committee members responsible for this wanton toxicity that, though obviously acceptable to treat mere cisnormative Whites with, is supposed to be spared those that share fellowship in the cultural revolution, adopt abstract and performative identities, and list pronouns after their names. How absolutely dare you/yours/yourself?

In closing, I wish the Trotsky disciples at MSD nothing but failure in their ongoing quest for civilizational degradation. I leave you with the only verbal response befitting any attempt at anti-White indoctrination:

F**k you.

Diversely, equitably, and inclusively yours

Daniel Concannon
(Pronouns: ae / aer / aers / aerself / all / another / any / anybody / anyone / anything / as / aught / both / bun / buns / bunself / ce / cir / cirs / cirself / co / cos / coself / e / each / each other / eir / either / em / emself / enough / everybody / everyone / everything / ey / fae / faer / faers / faerself / few / he / her / hers / herself / him / himself / hir / hirs / hirself / his / hu / hum / humself / hus / huself / I / idem / it / its / itself / jee / jeir / jem / jemself / kye / kyne / kyr / kyrself / lee / lim / limself / lis / liself / many / me / mine / most / my / myself / naught / ne / neither / nem / nemself / nir / nis / no one / nobody / none / nothing / nought / nym / nymself / one / one another / other / others / ought / our / ours / ourself / ourselves / per / pers / perself  / several / she / sie / sier / siers / sierself / some / somebody / someone / something / somewhat / such / suchlike / tem / temself / ter / tey / that / thee / their / theirs / theirself / theirselves / them / themself / themselves / there / these / they / thine / thon / thons / thonself / those / thou / thy / thyself / us / vae / vaer / vaers / vaerself / ve / ver / vers / verself / vi / vir / virs / virself / we / what / whatever / whatnot / whatsoever / which / whichever / who / whoever / whom / whomever / whomso / whomsoever / whose / whosever / whosesoever / whoso / whosoever / xe / xem / xemself / xie / xim / ximself / xyr / ye / yon / yonder / you / your / yours / yourself / yourselves / ze / zed / zeds / zedself / zes / zeself / zhe / zher / zhers / zherself)

https://granitegrok.com/blog/2021/06/manchester-school-district-21ccl-site-coordinators-epic-resignation-letter-cuz-dehumanization-of-white-people (https://granitegrok.com/blog/2021/06/manchester-school-district-21ccl-site-coordinators-epic-resignation-letter-cuz-dehumanization-of-white-people)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 30.06.2021, 20:50:42
Rufo on huutavan ääni korvessa!
Fox News: You tweeted "Democracy dies when the media lies."

Henkilökohtaisesti olen sitä mieltä, että CRT:n voi työntää sinne minne ei päivä paista!

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 30.06.2021, 22:41:23
Ihan vaan muistutuksena.

QuoteTietokirjoituksissa käydään läpi feministisen pedagogiikan taustaa: teoreettisen perustan nähdään nivoutuvan Paulo Freiren ajatteluun ja sosiaalista oikeudenmukaisuutta tavoittelevaan kriittiseen pedagogiikkaan. (...)

QuoteAntirasistisen pedagogiikan voi nähdä juontavan juurensa Paulo Freiren kehittelemään sorrettujen pedagogiikkaan, joka on oikeudenmukaisuutta käsittelevää kriittistä pedagogiikkaa. Keskeinen ajatus on, että kasvatus vapauttaa paitsi sorretut, myös sortajat toimimaan sortoa vastaan. Sorrettujen pedagogiikan tavoitteena on, että ihmiset oppivat yhdessä ymmärtämään tilanteita, joita he haluavat muuttaa.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 01.07.2021, 14:15:26
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Quote1/ The memo has gone out!

The woke are going to try to keep Critical Race Theory in  k-12 public schools by dismissing all opposition to it as a contrived "Moral Panic."

They can't defend CRT, so instead their goal is to get people to dismiss us.

let's unpack the strategy

2/ To start off let's be clear: CRT absolutely is being used in Education.

Here, Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic (who helped found CRT) discuss some of how CRT got into education, and how proud they are of that fact.

3/ This week Ibram X. Kendi went on Joy Reids show and said CRT is only taught in Law schools (pic 1). But a co-founder of CRT, Richard Delgado, said that CRT "is in some way more lively in education than it is in law."

So it's not just in Law Schools, it's also in education.

4/ So why are they saying that this isn't happening and that the push against CRT is just a "moral panic?"

The answer is that they know that if people see what is going on, and become aware of what CRT really says, they would throw CRT out of k-12 in a heartbeat.

5/ So there are a couple of things that the CRT activists will do.

First, they're going to try to cover it up by claiming this is all a big misunderstanding, that people just don't understand CRT, and that the opponents of CRT are panicked because they are uninformed about CRT.

6/ Another tactic is to use jargon as a Smoke Screen

This is where someone uses excessive amounts technical wording to make themselves look smart while at the same time burying their argument under jargon so that what they say goes unchallenged.

7/ This is a of social power move. The goal is to make the person using jargon look like an expert and anyone who doesn't know the jargon look ignorant. This destroys the social standing or credibility of anyone who disagrees so they can't taken seriously in the conversation.

8/ Finally, they just might lie to you and keep teaching CRT anyway, just using different wording.

This is a subtype of the "shell games with words" strategy where the goal is to manipulate language and switch between various types of terminology in order to get what they want.

9/ They think if they swap out the old CRT wording for new wording that says the same thing, then no one will notice. That way they can keep teaching CRT without parents noticing.

10/ And of course, some teachers will just operate using outright defiance.

They will teach CRT if it's in the curriculum or not.

11/ Another Strategy is to claim that CRT does not get taught in class. This is just trying to sneak CRT into the classroom on a technicality.

@ConceptualJames does an excellent job of explaining how this dodge works in the thread linked here

12/ You should read that thread, but the short version is that all "Critical Theories" (including CRT) contain the idea that it is not enough to know the theory, you must do activism based on the theory. This means implementing the theories ideas and agitating for it's goals

13/ Which is what teacher that bring CRT into the classroom are doing. They may not be assigning CRT readings, but they are *doing* CRT activism in what they teach their students. As such, they bake as much of the CRT worldview into the lessons as they can. Even if they aren't...

14/  making the students read CRT textbooks, they are building the worldview and ideas of CRT into the lesson plan.

The fact that they are turning to these tactics shows they know their ideas are not popular, and the people would reject them. Do not let them off the hook.

/fin

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QuoteWhen they say they aren't teaching Critical Race *Theory* in schools, they're telling an obvious lie that gives away the game, and it's important.

They're not *teaching* Critical Race Theory (much), they're DOING Critical Race Theory, which requires "praxis" (applying Theory).

Critical Race Theory is a Critical Theory. All Critical Theories require praxis (a Marxian term for doing activism based on Theory), by definition. They mostly aren't teaching Critical Race Theory, then; they're DOING IT, to your kids. That's MUCH WORSE.

The laws being passed don't prohibit the teaching of Critical Race Theory. They prevent Critical Race Praxis, which is all the Woke activists really want. But since banning Critical Race Praxis bans a crucial aspect of Critical Race Theory, they can whine about CRT bans.

Many of these bills *explicitly* say that they don't ban the teaching of Critical Race Theory, but they block Critical Race Praxis, thus Theory, and this allows CRT defenders to equivocate and then conflate ("they're banning teaching about slavery").

The thing is, the lies are distractions. They've been blocked from engaging in Critical Race Praxis, which is the application of that poison to your children, and they're losing their minds over it and doing everything they possibly can to lie their way into continuing it.

Suomessa sen sijaan tungetaan vain lisää tuota sontaa kouluihin.  >:(
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 02.07.2021, 21:00:27
Kaksi Stanfordin yliopiston mielenterveysalan ammattilaista aikoo haastaa yliopiston oikeuteen juutalaisvastaisesta häirinnästä. Aluksi kaksikko oli innoissaan saadessaan kuulla yliopistossa järjestettävästä rasismin vastaisesta koulutuksesta. Mieli muuttui kuitenkin nopeasti, kun he tajusivat että heidän on osallistuttava eurooppalaistaustaisten ryhmään.
QuoteTwo Jewish therapists suing Stanford for being pressured to join a white group by DEI. At first they were excited about all the anti-racism training they were going to get, but then got upset after realizing they were going to be on the wrong side of it.
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QuoteStanford therapists allege 'hostile climate' for Jews in the workplace

Two Jewish mental health professionals at Stanford's on-campus counseling clinic have filed workplace discrimination complaints after what they call "severe and persistent" anti-Jewish harassment from colleagues.

Dr. Ronald Albucher, a psychiatrist and associate professor in the medical school, and Sheila Levin, a therapist specializing in eating disorders, describe being pressed into joining a "whiteness" affinity group by staffers with the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion program, being told they were "privileged," and seeing antisemitic incidents downplayed.

The university responded inadequately to their concerns, made over the course of a year, Albucher and Levin say, thereby fostering a "hostile and unwelcoming environment" for Jewish employees working for Stanford's Counseling and Psychological Services office (CAPS).
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The trouble began in November 2019, Albucher and Levin say, when CAPS employees were asked to join weekly seminars run by the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion program within the clinic, formed earlier that year. The DEI program is facilitated by fellow psychologists and mental health professionals within CAPS.
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Albucher said he was "excited about and supportive" of the DEI program at first. "As a psychiatrist working on a campus like Stanford, where people from all over the world come to study, teach and do research, it only helps to increase one's knowledge base about other cultures and religions," he told J.

But once DEI programming began, his view soured.

Before their first meeting, CAPS staff were asked to read "White Fragility," the 2018 New York Times bestseller by Robin DiAngelo. Albucher said the assignment did not appeal to him as an introduction to DEI training because it is deeply pessimistic about race relations in the U.S., and it argues that all white people are fragile on race issues, no matter what.
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To discuss "White Fragility," the complaint says, DEI members split up CAPS staff by race, facilitating "space for white staff" to "process [their] reaction" to it. The group was later named the "Whiteness Accountability group/book club."

The complaint describes "racially segregated affinity groups that separated CAPS staff members on the basis of race or perceived race. One of these groups was for white staff, and another group was for staff comprising minorities of color.

"No affinity group was ever created for members of Jewish ancestral identity," it continues. "As a result, there was no 'space' in the DEI program for Dr. Albucher and Ms. Levin to safely express their lived Jewish experience."

Albucher said he was deeply uncomfortable with the discussion groups reserved for white people and refused to join them, although he continued to attend DEI seminars.

"As a gay Jewish man, I have my own perceptions on white supremacy, and the history of this country," he said. "My family has had to contend with white supremacy," he said, adding that he has family members who died in the Holocaust.

Levin also did not want to join the whites-only group, telling a DEI member that "as a Jewish person, she does not feel an affinity with white identity," according to the complaint. She said the individual responded that "this was the direction the clinic was going" and she needed to participate if she "wanted to be part of a collegial environment."

Albucher and Levin allege a pattern of anti-Jewish bias within the DEI program. The complaint cites a DEI seminar on May 20, 2020 at which concerns about antisemitism were downplayed following a racist and antisemitic "Zoombombing" incident four days earlier, when the N-word and swastikas were shared at a student government meeting.
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DEI committee members "justified the omission of anti-Semitism," the complaint says, "by insisting that unlike other minority groups, Jews can hide behind their white identity." During the meeting, Albucher and Levin say they were "subjected to anti-Jewish stereotypes," such as that Jews are "wealthy and powerful business owners."
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https://www.jweekly.com/2021/06/15/stanford-therapists-allege-hostile-climate-for-jews-in-the-workplace/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.07.2021, 11:14:06
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 06.07.2021, 22:35:51
Quote from: zupi on 22.06.2021, 11:38:08
Kun on ollut puhetta superrikkaan valtaeliitin ja sekopää-wokeistien perverssistä liittoutumasta...

QuoteHerlinien suvun päättäjä TE:lle: Intersektionaalisuus ja feminismi nyt keskeisiä

Jussi Herlinin mukaan monimuotoisuus on avainkonsepti, joka on otettava haltuun.

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Jos joku vielä ihmettelee, miten nämä totalitaristiset uuskommunismisekopäisyydet tuntuvat vaan Suomessakin leviävän, vaikka niitä kannattaa vain minimaalisen pieni osuus väestöstä...

Mistäköhän on Herlin tuon "suuren oivalluksensa" saanut... On tämä kyllä sairasta. Alkaa olemaan ihan 30-luvun meininkiä (vaikka onkin vasta 20-luku).  :-\

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QuoteSCOOP: Raytheon, the nation's second-largest defense contractor, has launched a critical race theory program that encourages white employees to confront their "privilege," reject the principle of "equality," and "defund the police."

Let's review the internal documents.

Last summer, Raytheon CEO Greg Hayes launched the Stronger Together campaign instructing employees on "becoming an anti-racist today." He signed a corporate diversity statement and then asked all Raytheon employees to sign the pledge and "check [their] own biases."

The program is centered on "intersectionality," a core component of critical race theory that divides the world into competing identity groups, with race, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and other categories defining an individual's place within the hierarchy of oppression.

Raytheon then asks white employees to deconstruct their identities and "identify [their] privilege." The company argues that white, straight, Christian men are at the top of the oppression hierarchy—and must work on "recognizing [their] privilege" and "step aside" for minorities.

Raytheon tells employees to "identify everyone's race" during workplace conversations. Whites must "listen to the experiences" of "marginalized identities" and should "give [those with such identities] the floor in meetings or on calls, even if it means silencing yourself."

Raytheon instructs white employees never to say that they "pray things change soon." Whites must acknowledge that their own discomfort is "a fraction" of their black colleagues', who are "exhausted, mentally drained, frustrated, stressed, barely sleeping, scared and overwhelmed."

Raytheon has segregated employees by race and identity groups for black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, LGBTQ, and other intersectional categories.

This is a slide from a recent seminar on "Developing Intersectional Allyship in the Workplace."

Next, Raytheon explicitly instructs employees to oppose "equality," defined as "treating each person the same . . . regardless of their differences," and strive instead for "equity," which "focuses on the equality of the outcome."

Finally, in a collection of recommended resources, the company encourages white employees to "defund the police," "participate in reparations," "decolonize your bookshelf," "join a local 'white space.'"

QuoteI have been playing defense for the past month, successfully repelling attacks from MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, and others.

In the meantime, I have obtained the internal "antiracism" documents for 26 of the Fortune 100 companies, which I will be releasing one by one.

Back on offense.

Raytheon taisi olla Fortunen listalla sijalla 57, markkina-arvo n. 130 miljardia taalaa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.07.2021, 22:46:43
Quote from: zupi on 06.07.2021, 22:35:51
Quote from: zupi on 22.06.2021, 11:38:08
Kun on ollut puhetta superrikkaan valtaeliitin ja sekopää-wokeistien perverssistä liittoutumasta...
QuoteHerlinien suvun päättäjä TE:lle: Intersektionaalisuus ja feminismi nyt keskeisiä
Jussi Herlinin mukaan monimuotoisuus on avainkonsepti, joka on otettava haltuun.
Jos joku vielä ihmettelee, miten nämä totalitaristiset uuskommunismisekopäisyydet tuntuvat vaan Suomessakin leviävän, vaikka niitä kannattaa vain minimaalisen pieni osuus väestöstä...
Mistäköhän on Herlin tuon "suuren oivalluksensa" saanut... On tämä kyllä sairasta.

Mistähän se nyt olisi tullut? Veikkaan geneettistä erityispiirrettä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 07.07.2021, 00:46:23
Tuohon valtamädän ja hullumarxistien liittoutumaan liittyen voisi laittaa tähän taas muutamia lainauksia laatuteoksesta nimeltä "Feministisen pedagogiikan ABC". Käytännössä tuo on vähän kuin wokeismi-kultin raamattu. Ja syksyllä on ilmeisesti tulossa kakkososa...

QuoteOpetuksen valtavirta ainakin yliopistoissa – feministisestä ja kriittisestä pedagogiikasta huolimatta – on edelleen hyvin akateemista, valkoista ja keskiluokkaista.
QuoteErojen pedagogiikassa on myös pyritty etsimään keinoja purkaa opetukseen sisäänrakennettuja rodullistamisen ja seksualisoimisen käytäntöjä sekä kulttuurista kloonausta. Kulttuurisella kloonauksella tarkoitetaan sitä, miten esimerkiksi eurooppalaisten yliopistojen valkoinen, keskiluokkainen, miehinen kulttuuriperintö kloonautuu opetuksen kautta opiskelijoihin (katso tarkemmin Tuija Saresman Intersektionaalisuus – erot ja hierarkiat opettamisessa -teksti tässä kirjassa).
QuoteSuomen kieleen lainasana on tullut merkitsemään teoreettista suuntausta, jossa painotetaan yksilöiden ja ryhmien välisiä eroja – sukupuolen lisäksi esimerkiksi etnisyyttä, seksuaalisuutta tai yhteiskuntaluokkaa – ja niiden risteytymistä. Se merkitsee myös eroihin liittyviä valtahierarkioita sekä erojen keskinäistä suhdetta, sitä mikä kulloinkin oletetaan normiksi. Suomessa tällainen neutraalilta näyttäytyvä valta-asema on edelleen usein mieheydellä, valkoisuudella, heteroseksuaalisuudella ja keskiluokkaisuudella.
QuoteTällaisia ovat valkoiset, miehet, heteroseksuaalit, keskiluokkaan kuuluvat ja cissukupuoliset eli ne, joiden sukupuoli-identiteetti ja sukupuolen ilmaisu ovat syntymässä määritellyn sukupuolen mukaiset. Nämä ryhmät saattavat ainakin ryhmän sisältä käsin näyttäytyä neutraaleina, vaikka ne ovat valta-asemassa suhteessa muihin.
QuoteMarginalisoitujen ohella on syytä analysoida myös etuoikeutettuja ryhmiä. Tällaisia ovat valkoiset, miehet, heteroseksuaalit, keskiluokkaan kuuluvat ja cissukupuoliset eli ne, joiden sukupuoli-identiteetti ja sukupuolen ilmaisu ovat syntymässä määritellyn sukupuolen mukaiset. Nämä ryhmät saattavat ainakin ryhmän sisältä käsin näyttäytyä neutraaleina, vaikka ne ovat valta-asemassa suhteessa muihin.
QuoteOpettajat, kuten muutkin akateemisesti koulutetut ihmiset, kuuluvat usein keskiluokkaan. Suurin osa suomalaisissa kouluissa opettavista pääsee nauttimaan myös valkoisten etuoikeudesta (white privilege).
QuoteLuokan lukeminen muiden erojen kanssa yhdessä, kuten esimerkiksi sukupuolen ja iän, on hedelmällistä oppimisessa. Monet feministitutkijat ovat osoittaneet, että keskiluokan makuvalinnat asettuvat ikään kuin mittapuuksi ja kyseenalaistamattomaksi tavoitteeksi myös työväenluokan toimijoille. Nämä tutkimukset ovat aika- ja paikkasidonnaisia.
QuoteSuomalainen koulujärjestelmä perustuu edelleen valkoiselle, keskiluokkaiselle ja "kantasuomalaiselle" oppilasjoukolle. Normioppilas edustaa valtaväestöä myös sukupuoleltaan ja seksuaaliselta suuntautumiseltaan.
QuoteYhdenvertaisuudesta puhuttaessa tai toimintatapoja tarkasteltaessa on tärkeää pohtia, teemmekö erontekoja "meihin" ja "muihin" ja miten ylipäänsä puhumme erilaisuudesta. Miten kohtelemme oppilaita, jotka eivät ole keskiluokkaisia, valkoisia ja luterilaisista lähtökohdista?
QuoteMateriaaleissa kuvataan edelleen "normioppilasta", joka kuuluu valtaväestöön, on keskiluokkainen ja fyysisesti toimintakykyinen. Tarjoavatko nykyisten oppimateriaalien kuvastot mitään samastumispintaa rodullistetuille oppilaille?
QuoteToinen, vakavampi esimerkki itsepuolustukseen sisältyvistä ongelmista on Britanniasta 1990-luvulta. Työväenluokkaisessa muslimiperheessä kasvanut Zoorah Shah rikkoi stereotypian passiivisista eteläaasialaisista naisista. Hän myrkytti ja tappoi miehen, joka oli harjoittanut häntä kohtaan fyysistä, seksuaalista ja taloudellista väkivaltaa pitkään. Shah oli kasvanut yhteisössä, joka oli marginalisoitu ja kriminalisoitu yhteiskunnan rasististen ja taloudellisesti epätasa-arvoisten rakenteiden takia. Hän sai 20 vuoden tuomion teosta. Samoihin aikoihin keskiluokkainen nainen, myöskin rodullistettu, sai pienemmän tuomion samankaltaisesta teosta. Itsensä puolustamisella voi siis olla erilaiset seuraukset riippuen henkilön etnisestä tausta, luokasta tai muusta ominaisuudesta. Feministit Southall Black Sistersissa kamppailivat tuolloin "Our Tradition, Struggle not Submission!" -iskulauseella (Incite! 2016). Feministiryhmä teki pitkäjänteistä työtä, ja 2006 Shah vapautettiin vankilasta.

Yhtäkään käsitteisiin "rikas", "eliitti" tai "epätasainen" liittyvää ilmausta mestariteoksessa ei ole. Ihmetyttääkö vielä, miksi valtamätä kannattaa tätä aatetta? Epäonnisin ja varattomin porukka tappelee "keskiluokkaista" porukkaa vastaan... (Ja tietenkin naiset miehiä vastaan, homot heteroita vastaan, rodut toisia rotuja vastaan, jne...)

Itselleni näistä wokeismin jedi-ritareista (ritarittarista) tulee mieleen keskitysleirien luottovangit. Tuo jengi oli luultavasti onnensa kukkuloilla. Ei mitään väliä sillä, että huonosti menee ja jossain sun yläpuolella on kaikesta päättävä eliitti. Riittää, kun pikku psykopaatti pääsee määräilemään toisia ihmisiä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 07.07.2021, 00:52:20
Tuo mikä nykyään on halveksittavaa keskiluokkaisuutta oli edellisellä vuosisadalla taantumuksellisen porvarillista.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.07.2021, 00:00:28
Piti ensiksi laittaa tämä Utøya ketjuun, mutta yllättäen lähti taas rönsyilemään tämän ketjun suuntaan. Hommakin mainittu...

Vihahallituksen toimeksiannosta vihapuhetta Suomessa tutkiva "objektiivinen" Persuja herjaava akateeminen feministi:

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Ja Hyysärin artikkelin kirjoittaja, "objektiivinen" journalistikaveri vastaa:

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Ja tuleeko jollekin yllätyksenä, että Tuija Saresma ja Dr. Emilia Palonen ovat "dear colleagues"?

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V...u juuri niin, tuo on akateeminen Suomi...  :facepalm:  :silakka:

Mielestäni tämä James Lindsayn twiitti-ketju sopii hyvin tähän. Tietenkin nykyisin on paljon niitä, ketkä oikeasti tekevät rahaa wokeismilla, ja paljon. Mutta nämä ovatkin ihan eri porukkaa kuin tosiuskovaiset.

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QuoteI suspect a lot of the reason so many academic temperament types turn to Marxism and other Marxian ideologies is that they're simultaneously not good at making money, smarter than average, and suckers for theoretical constructs that "would work" if only people were smarter.

I don't think a lot of people realize how much resentment gets boiled up in people who are smart but too impractical to know how to make money, especially when they see "dumb" people making more money. Overproducing these bourgeois types is very dangerous to any society.

Wokeness isn't Marxism, but it's a Marxian ideological worldview, and it's great for smart, bourgeois people to gain status and influence even where they can't make money. It's very geared toward exactly that kind of striver who is otherwise economically displaced right now.

The problem with this educated bourgeois overproduction is that these smart incompetents are extremely likely to blame systems rather than themselves for being bad at making money compared to their more practical and socially competent peers, plus, they get "expert entitlement."

Social theories that require being sorta smart but not really insightful (midwit stuff) like Wokeness, Critical Theory, Marxism, etc, are very attractive to this kind of person who can gain status and influence by rattling off theoretical nonsense (about problematics).

More importantly, these "systemic"-based social theories allow for the externalizing of blame, responsibility, and locus of control, which is psychologically necessary to people who can't countenance the fact that smart ≠ valuable or competent in a real economy.

Laitetaan vielä muutama Tuijan uudelleentwiittaus, kun nuo kertovat mielestäni aika paljon tuon poppoon yleistietouden, järkevyyden ja loogisen ajattelukyvyn hulluuden tasosta.

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Edit. Laitetaan vielä pätkä Hankamäen Totuus kiihottaa kirjasta:

Quote9.3. Vasemmistopopulistit tietokirjailijoina

Kortensa kelvottoman populismitutkimuksen kekoon kantavat myös Emilia Palonen ja Tuija Saresma vasemmistokustantamo Vastapainon kautta julkaisemassaan toimitusteok-sessa Jätkät & jytkyt,384 jossa etsittiin populismille tyypillisinä pidettyjä "ristiriitoja" perussuomalaisten argumentaatiosta mutta ei löydetty niitä vihervasemmiston ja punavihreän median suoltamasta propagandasta, vaikka mediatodellisuus on niitä täynnä alkaen ydinvoiman korvaamisesta tuulivoimalla ja päätyen käsitykseen, että sähkö tulee pisto-rasiasta. Säälittävää kirjoittajien omalta kannalta oli, kun Emilia Palonen väitti 2017 Ilta-Sanomissa, että Perussuomalaiset asettuvat seuraavissa vaaleissa "kaikkia vastaan".385

Tosiasiassa Perussuomalaisten väitetty populistisuus on ollut kansalaisten kuuntelemista ja toimimista suomalaisten ihmisten sekä yhteiskuntamme kokonaisedun puolesta. Se, että muut puolueet ovat pyrkineet sulkemaan perussuomalaiset pois hallitusyhteistyöstä, on ollut märän rätin viskaamista kansalaisten silmille ja merkinnyt kaikkien muiden asettumista perussuomalaisia ja demokratiaa vastaan.

Ei tarvinne muistuttaa, että Jyväskylän yliopistossa kulttuuripolitiikan dosenttina ja Helsingin yliopistossa politiikan tutkimuksen lehtorina toimiva Emilia Palonen on kommunistisen sirpalepuolueen aktiivi, joka esiintyy "objektiivisesti" ja "tieteellisesti" myös SKP:n Tiedonantaja-lehden sivuilla.386 Yleisradio puolestaan käytti Palosen "asiantuntemusta" jutussa "Tutkija Halla-ahosta: etäännyttävä yhden asian älykkö"387 haukkuakseen Perussuomalaisten puheenjohtajaehdokasta ja esittääkseen Palosen mukapuolueettomana "populismin asiantuntijana", vaikka kyseessä on yliopiston leivissä pitämä poliittisen vasemmiston ääriajattelija ja Jussi Halla-ahon poliittinen vastustaja. Palosen puoluepoliittista sitoutuneisuutta ei kuitenkaan kerrottu Yleisradion jutussa, mikä ilmentää Ylen roolia vasemmistolaisena valemediana.

Suomen Perusta voisi ehkä teettää laajemman tutkimuksen yliopistojen ja median wokeistien / kommarien todennäköisesti hyvin laajasta mädätysringistä?
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.07.2021, 00:11:33
QuoteDr. Emilia Palonen: My dear colleague @tuijasaresma finally got a well-deserved tenured position at @uniofjyvaskyla. We have been applying for project funding for the past 10 years and making our living. From now on she only needs to budget for her team!

Leipää pöytään löytämällä natseja sieltä missä niitä ei ole.  :flowerhat: Näin Suomessa 2021. Kun ei kyvyt muuhun riitä niin sillä sitten.  :facepalm:
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.07.2021, 00:57:09
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.07.2021, 00:11:33
QuoteDr. Emilia Palonen: My dear colleague @tuijasaresma finally got a well-deserved tenured position at @uniofjyvaskyla. We have been applying for project funding for the past 10 years and making our living. From now on she only needs to budget for her team!

Leipää pöytään löytämällä natseja sieltä missä niitä ei ole.  :flowerhat: Näin Suomessa 2021. Kun ei kyvyt muuhun riitä niin sillä sitten.  :facepalm:

Vanhan akateemisen sanonnan mukaan tenure eli vakiovirka tarkoittaa, että voit syödä aivosi, koska niitä et enää tarvitse niitä. Tätä ei olemattomien natsien löytäjiltä edellytetä, koska he ovat syöneet aivonsa jo ennen vakioviran saamista.

"The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the sea searching for a suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home for life.  For this task, it has a rudimentary nervous system.  When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn't need its brain anymore, so it eats it! It's rather like getting tenure."
- Daniel Dennett, The Incomparable Consciousness Explained, 1991, page 177: https://appliedabstractions.com/2007/03/06/a-tenured-squirt/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 08.07.2021, 05:59:35
Quote from: zupi on 08.07.2021, 00:00:28
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Tuommoiset poliittiset propagandistit ovat kyllä järkyttävä ongelma akademiassa, tiede on heitetty romukoppaan ja tilalle ovat tulleet ideologiset hörhöteoriat. Suomessakin tuo syöpä leviää kiihtyvällä tahdilla ja osaa aloista on jo mahdotonta opiskella ellei ole itsekin ideologian pauloissa.

Itsekin jouduin tuolle syövälle alttiiksi kun katselin huvikseni erästä Helsingin yliopiston aloitusluentoa, aiheesta ei oikein puhunut, vaan paasasi lähes koko luennon mustista, välillä liitti ne vähän aiheeseen jollain omilla pseudotiedeteorioillaan. Tietysti piti myös huokaillen sanoa "valitettavasti meilläkin on yksi ihmisoikeuksia vihaava puolue tässä maassa", siinä kohtaa meni se propaganda itsellä kiinni.

Mielenkiintoista nähdä millaista tulevaisuudesta tulee, kun koulut pukkaa ulos poliittisia aktivisteja tiedehenkilöiden sijaan.

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Luin vasta jonkun tutkimuksen jossa tutkittiin jenkkilän akademian eliittiä, siellä huomasivat mm. humanistien ja yhteiskuntatieteilijöiden olevan uskovaisempia kuin luonnontieteilijät (mitä matalampi ÄO sen varmemmin uskoo). Lisäksi poliittisen ekstremismin havaittiin myös liittyvän matalaan älykkyyteen, fyysikoilla, joilla on kaikkien alojen korkein ÄO, sen esiintyvyys oli matalimpien joukossa, kun taas matalamman älyn omaavilla sitä esiintyi eniten.

Noissa naisten twiiteissä havaitsin uskonnon hurmoksessa olevia poliittiseen ekstremismiin sortuneita ;D

Lindsay on oikeassa, että akademiaan hakeutuvilla on yleensä keskivertoa korkeampi älykkyys. Jenkeissä humanisteilla oli muistaakseni ~120 ÄO, mutta epäilen Suomen numeron olevan heikompi, koska
a) ilmaisen koulutuksen vuoksi ei ole minkäänlaista riskiä niin heikoinkin aines uskaltaa kokeilla
b) täällä pääsee kirjoille suunnilleen sillä, että osaa kirjoittaa nimensä oikein hakulomakkeeseen
c) koska nykyään on oletettua, että hankkii jonkun korkeakoulututkinnon. Laiskalle opiskelijalle helpoksi oletetut humanistiset alat ovat luonnollinen valinta
d) alalle tulee vuosi vuodelta enemmän poliittisia aktivisteja

Ehkä heidän älykkyytensä on juuri siinä kipupisteessä, jossa Marxilaiset teoriat tuntuu mahtavilta, mutta ei osata nähdä niiden ongelmia. Naiivi lapsellinen ajatusmaailma johdattelee ajattelua; kyllä meillä on kivaa kun jaetaan ne pahan Bezosin rahat ja tuhotaan maiden rajat, koska kaikki ihmiset ovat kivoja kuten minä! Minunkin tohtoriystävä on Irakista, miten ne äärioikeistolaiset natsipersut voi vihata niitä pakolaisia? Hyviä ihmisiä kaikki, tänne vain jokainen joka haluaa tulla!

Tuli mieleen kun Redditissä tekivät kyselyn sosialisteille, vastaajia ei ollut kuin ~500, mutta paljastui, että 48% oli työttömiä, 61% asui vanhempien kanssa, 69% oli koulut kesken, 14% kannatti sananvapautta ja 46% kannatti mellakointia.

Yllättäen sieltä aina paljastuu totalitaristisia ihmisiä jotka elää verorahoilla tai paistaa burgereita mäkkärissä minimipalkalla. Kyllä se utopia alkaisi kun kommunismi tulisi ja pääsisi poliittiseksi johtajaksi, mihinkään kaivoksellehan semmoisia älykköjä ei varmasti laitettaisi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.07.2021, 07:51:43
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 08.07.2021, 05:59:35
Tuli mieleen kun Redditissä tekivät kyselyn sosialisteille, vastaajia ei ollut kuin ~500, mutta paljastui, että 48% oli työttömiä, 61% asui vanhempien kanssa, 69% oli koulut kesken, 14% kannatti sananvapautta ja 46% kannatti mellakointia.

@Pöhisijä, olisiko tuohon kyselyyn linkkiä?

Ja sitten Gallupin tutkimuksen löydöksiä: nuorison positiivinen mielipide kapitalismista laski 10 vuodessa 34%. Positiivinen mielipide sosialismista ei juuri muuttunut. Tein kaavion (liite 3), jossa X-akseli ei ala nollasta, jotta trendi olisi selkeämmin nähtävissä.

Quote from: https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/democrats-positive-socialism-capitalism.aspxAugust 13, 2018
Democrats More Positive About Socialism Than Capitalism'

Story Highlights

- 47% of Democrats view capitalism positively, down from 56% in 2016
- 57% of Democrats now view socialism positively, little changed from 2010
- Republicans very positive about capitalism; 16% positive on socialism
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 08.07.2021, 18:02:41
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 08.07.2021, 05:59:35
Luin vasta jonkun tutkimuksen jossa tutkittiin jenkkilän akademian eliittiä, siellä huomasivat mm. humanistien ja yhteiskuntatieteilijöiden olevan uskovaisempia kuin luonnontieteilijät (mitä matalampi ÄO sen varmemmin uskoo). Lisäksi poliittisen ekstremismin havaittiin myös liittyvän matalaan älykkyyteen, fyysikoilla, joilla on kaikkien alojen korkein ÄO, sen esiintyvyys oli matalimpien joukossa, kun taas matalamman älyn omaavilla sitä esiintyi eniten.

Noissa naisten twiiteissä havaitsin uskonnon hurmoksessa olevia poliittiseen ekstremismiin sortuneita ;D

Ei koske Suomea. Esimerkiksi Syksy Räsänen ja Till Sawala.

Ilmastohumppa on fysikaalisten tieteiden alla. Sieltä pukataan tieteellisesti kestämätöntä propagandaa ääri-ideologian kiihkolla.

ÄO on varsin suppea mittari mihinkään. Uskonnon kannalta yhdistäisin sen eniten siihen, että ateisti on helpompi olla viettämällä aikaa 24/7 tietokoneella koodaillen. Tällöin sinne humanistisempaan suuntaan ei päädy. Jolloin ei myöskään uskonnolliseen ajatteluun. Toki silloin ne ajatukset mitä esimerkiksi uskonnoissa sanotaan ovat täysin asiantuntemattomia, kuten humanististen ihmisten koodausajatuksetkin ovat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.07.2021, 14:06:03
Pistetään tähän Bari Weissin uusin kirjoitus, kun sopii niin hyvin toisessa ketjussa juuri esiin tuotuun Halliksen puheeseen (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,129223.msg3327208.html#msg3327208 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,129223.msg3327208.html#msg3327208)).

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/a-witch-trial-at-the-legal-aid-society (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/a-witch-trial-at-the-legal-aid-society)

QuoteA Witch Trial at the Legal Aid Society
Maud Maron was a model public defender. Then she was forced out of her job because of her political views and her race.

If you google "bleeding heart liberal," Maud Maron might well turn up as the first hit. Every cause liberals are supposed to fight for, every group they are supposed to champion, every candidate they are supposed to support — well, that was Maron's not so atypical life and career. Until recently.

(...)

In short, Maron is exactly the kind of lawyer you'd imagine Legal Aid would put on the cover of its brochures. But today the public defender is filing suit in the Southern District of New York against the organization to which she has dedicated her career.

The suit, which you can read here, claims that Maron was "discriminated against on the basis of race" by her employer, Legal Aid Society, (...) In other words: it says she was forced out of her job because of her political views and her race, a violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act.

"None of this would have happened if I just said I loved books like White Fragility, and I'm a fan of Bill de Blasio's proposals for changing New York City public schools, and I planned to vote for Maya Wiley for mayor. The reason they went after me is because I have a different point of view," she said.

(...)

(...) But on July 23, 2020, Maron published an Op-Ed in the New York Post under the headline "Racial obsessions make it impossible for NYC schools to treat parents, kids as people."

Here's how it opened:

    I am a mom, a public defender, an elected public-school council member and a City Council candidate. But at a city Department of Education anti-bias training, I was instructed to refer to myself as a "white woman" — as if my whole life reduces to my race.

    Those who oppose this ideology are shunned and humiliated, even as it does nothing to actually improve our broken schools.

    Though facing severe budget cuts, the DOE has spent more than $6 million for the training, which defines qualities such as "worship of the written word," "individualism" and "objectivity" as "white-supremacy culture."

That's when things at work blew up. Three days after she published the piece, the Black Attorneys of Legal Aid Caucus put out a lengthy statement saying that "Maud Maron has no business having a career in public defense, and we're ashamed that she works for the Legal Aid Society." It declared: "Maud is racist, and openly so," and offered no evidence to back up the charge. It said that this veteran public defender was a "prominent opponent of equality" and a "classic example of what 21st century racism looks like."

(...)

The statement also accused Maron of being terrible at her job. (...)

One former colleague told me that the accusation of racism in an organization like Legal Aid "is the equivalent of calling someone who works at a Jewish organization anti-Jewish. It becomes impossible to work there." Never mind that several lawyers who worked alongside Maud told me that the allegations were absurd.

"She was beyond terrific," said James Chubinsky, Maron's former supervisor. "When she joined the Bronx Division I didn't understand why she wasn't coming as a supervisor, given her resume. She handled the toughest cases and arraignments, she did an enormous amount of work, and she went out of her way to engage the less experienced lawyers in the cases she was handling," said Chubinsky, who spent the past 41 years at the organization, until he retired a year-and-a-half ago. "Any suggestion that she was anything other than a top-flight lawyer that the Legal Aid Society should be damn proud to have on their staff is a crock."

Another former co-worker told me: "She was a great colleague. I've known her for two decades. She was very caring toward her clients and a very good attorney." Did they ever see her exhibiting racist behavior or expressing racist views? "Definitely not. Not at all."

But this lawyer wasn't willing to defend Maron on the record. Chubinsky said he understands why: "Everybody is scared to death of the r-word," he told me. (...)

Maron said it was not easy to find a lawyer to take her case: Challenging activists who claim the mantle of antiracism carries tremendous professional risks these days. "Part of me would have loved to walk away from the whole thing," she said. "But these ideologues have tried to ruin my name and my career and they are going after other good people. Not enough people stand up and say: It is totally wrong to do this to a person. And this is not going to stop unless people stand up to it."

"If you had asked me when I became a mom what I thought were the pressing concerns my kids would face I probably would have said climate change, maybe ending the Iraq war," she said. "I am so shocked that what I worry about now is creeping totalitarianism in America."

(...)

"It was becoming intolerable," Chubsinky said of the intolerance that had taken root at Legal Aid. "We talked about all of this behind closed doors. Because you can't talk about this with the doors open. It's a really oppressive environment for anyone who isn't radical, including, by the way, those attorneys of color who don't share these lunatic views like abolishing the police or saying that it's necessarily racist to arrest people for misdemeanor crimes."

(...)

"I was embarrassed that I didn't stand up for her. But I was scared. Everybody is scared of that label," a former colleague told me.

"Nobody should have to endure what Maud endured," Chubinsky said. "It's outrageous."

Ja hullutuksesta toiseen. Vihavasureiden propagandavideot alkaa oikeasti lähestymään Goebbels tasoa: Aivopestään lapsi hulluideologiaan, ja sitten tehdään videoita, joissa hän vetoaa tämän hulluideologian puolesta. Hyi saatana!

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 15.07.2021, 22:05:15
Yllä mainittuun Abigail Shrieriin liittyen.

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Kyseistä kirjaa käsitelty aiemmin tuolla:

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3320878.html#msg3320878 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3320878.html#msg3320878)

Tuota se Kiilusilmän ja valtamedian toimittelijoiden niin rakastama "sukupuoliaktivismi" on. Lasten tuhoamista oman aatteen edistämiseksi, ja vastakkaisten mielipiteiden hiljentämistä, joko hyvällä tai pahalla.

Ja totta tämäkin:

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.07.2021, 13:12:24
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 17.07.2021, 04:04:09
QuoteOpetuksen valtavirta ainakin yliopistoissa – feministisestä ja kriittisestä pedagogiikasta huolimatta – on edelleen hyvin akateemista, valkoista ja keskiluokkaista.

Heh, melkein putosin tuolilta..  ;D "Opetus yliopistoissa on edelleen hyvin akateemista"! Pitääkö akateemisessa instituutiossa opetuksen siis olla woken mukaan ei-akateemista?


Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: vihapuhegeneraattori on 17.07.2021, 11:09:06
Quote from: zupi on 16.07.2021, 13:12:24

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Tämä on näistä kyllä paras. Castro myi kommunismiaan brandillä "Social Justice".. you can't make this shit up!!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 19.07.2021, 13:44:32
Ohessa UHerd YouTube kanavan haastattelu, jossa eräs newyorkilainen isä kertoo miten hänen tyttärensä eliittikoulu kauppaa rotuoppeja (Critical Race Theory, CRT):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6uUpHgtctk

Isä kertoo miten koulu vaati sopimuksen allekirjoittamista koskien CRT:ia ja että sitä pitäisi opetella myös kotona. Rotuteorialle epäsopivaa oppimateriaalia poistetaan, oppilaita opetellaan fokusoimaan ja häpeämään (valkoiset) ihonväriänsä, vanhempia vaaditaan osallistumaan rotukursseille jne.
Erikoinen näkökanta on, että esim. oven avaaminen pyörätuolissa istuvalle on mikroaggressio eikä sitä saisi tehdä jottei käyttäisi (valkoista) ylivaltaa.

Pitkähkö haastattelu on valaiseva esimerkki siitä miten vasemmisto yrittää aggressiivisesti ajaa läpi agendansa USA:n kouluissa täysin avoimella indoktrinaatiolla.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: nochWunder on 19.07.2021, 20:03:07
Quote from: Totti on 19.07.2021, 13:44:32
Ohessa UHerd YouTube kanavan haastattelu, jossa eräs newyorkilainen isä kertoo miten hänen tyttärensä eliittikoulu kauppaa rotuoppeja (Critical Race Theory, CRT):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6uUpHgtctk

Isä kertoo miten koulu vaati sopimuksen allekirjoittamista koskien CRT:ia ja että sitä pitäisi opetella myös kotona. Rotuteorialle epäsopivaa oppimateriaalia poistetaan, oppilaita opetellaan fokusoimaan ja häpeämään (valkoiset) ihonväriänsä, vanhempia vaaditaan osallistumaan rotukursseille jne.
Erikoinen näkökanta on, että esim. oven avaaminen pyörätuolissa istuvalle on mikroaggressio eikä sitä saisi tehdä jottei käyttäisi (valkoista) ylivaltaa.

Pitkähkö haastattelu on valaiseva esimerkki siitä miten vasemmisto yrittää aggressiivisesti ajaa läpi agendansa USA:n kouluissa täysin avoimella indoktrinaatiolla.

Terveinä aikoina tälläinen koulu olisi lakitoimin lopetettu ja järkyttyneet ihmiset seuraisivat dokumentteja tv:stä täysin epäuskoisena kuinka näin sairas kultti on päässyt kouluihin.

Mutta nykyään, kun olemme jo prosessissa reaktiot ovat pieniä. Mielisairaista ideoista on tullut normaaleja. On todella helppo nyt ymmärtää miten Natsisaksa tapahtui. Se ei enää ole uskomatonta. Tälläistä niilläkin oli.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.07.2021, 00:11:51
Aina sama tarina. Kun joku sellaiseen vähemmistöryhmään, jota vihavasemmisto käyttää poliittisten päämääriensä edistämiseen, kuuluva ei noudatakaan vihavasemmiston agendaa, niin hyvät ihmiset kohtelevat kyseistä henkilöä kuin paskalänttiä kengänpohjassa. Eli ei ihan samalla tavoin kuin "äärioikeistolaista" vhm:ä, mutta melkein... Ihan sama juttu, olipa kyse sitten rodusta, transuilusta, tai jostain muusta.

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Quotei don't believe in gender identities. i don't believe it's kind to tell people they can change sex or tip toe around reality because they might get upset. i don't identify as a woman and i don't identify as a detransitioner; i just am those things. i am way past done pandering.

pandering will not work. ever. the trans orgs and the trans activists will never care about detransitioners. ever. because their objective is not to help people with gender dysphoria and it never has been. ever. their objective is to gain political power. we are an inconvenience.

i am not the other side of the coin to a trans identified person. these aren't just two "identities" that "both sides" should learn to respect.

ever notice that trans people who go against trans activist dogma get treated like shit? yeah, they're inconvenient too.

so i'm done being "nice". i believe gender ideology is morally wrong. it harms society because it manipulates people and draws vulnerable people into harms way. it harms individuals because it sells them a fantasy that carries huge risks. i don't respect it, sorry not sorry.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 21.07.2021, 15:44:08
Mä kuuntelin äsken koko levyllisen motown neekerimusiikkia (Diana, 1980), eikö se laita nyt sitten minut valta-asemaan musiikin tekijöihin nähden, koska olen valkoinen?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 21.07.2021, 15:52:38
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 21.07.2021, 15:44:08
Mä kuuntelin äsken koko levyllisen motown neekerimusiikkia (Diana, 1980), eikö se laita nyt sitten minut valta-asemaan musiikin tekijöihin nähden, koska olen valkoinen?

Olet syyllinen blackexploitingiin?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 21.07.2021, 23:16:34
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Kokkarinuoret lienee Breen kanssa samaa mieltä.

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,129975.msg3323313.html#msg3323313 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,129975.msg3323313.html#msg3323313)

Edit. Täysin sairasta meininkiä.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: nochWunder on 22.07.2021, 01:23:02
Maailmassa on silti kaikki hyvin, eikä kukaan suinkaan tekisi mitään moraalitonta pahaa ihmisille, esim. piikittämällä näihin jotain jännää.

Selvästikään mitään merkkejä ei ole mistään sellaisesta joka voisi pöyristyttää tulevat sukupolvet lähes irti nahoistaan, kuten natsien kokeet vammaisille, mustalaislastenkodit, lobotomia tms..


Tai sitten sokea Reettakin näkisi, että ajassamme on niin helvetisti mätää, että lapset olisi hyvä pitää kotiopetuksessa ja perheen yksityisyys ja turvallisuus tulisi varmistaa myös niin, että viranomaiset pidetään mahdollisimman kaukana.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 23.07.2021, 00:36:17
Quote from: zupi on 16.05.2021, 23:23:54
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Quote1/13] The Swedes have a word, "fredsskadade", meaning "injured by peace", where a society has been prosperous & peaceful for so long that it somehow hurts them. Handicaps them. Debilitates their thinking.

2/13] Those immigrants are behaving badly? Or simply behaving according to their cultural norms? It's not that those cultural norms are wrong/illiberal/oppressive. It's that WE are oppressive. We must have done something to cause them to behave this way.

3/13] It's not uncommon thinking. Pelle Neroth Taylor describes this thinking in his documentary "Dying to be Multicultural" (on YouTube). Göran Adamson in his book "The Trojan Horse: A Leftist critique of Multiculturalism in the West".

(...)

https://twitter.com/WokeTemple/status/1393917900264820737 (https://twitter.com/WokeTemple/status/1393917900264820737)

Tuli törmättyä uudestaan tuohon Göran Adamson nimeen, joten piti kaivella vähän äijän kirjoituksia. Ihan mielenkiintoinen tuttavuus, vaikken nyt kaikesta olekaan samaa mieltä. En tosin tiedä, onko oikea ketju tälle.

QuoteMulticulturalism is just masochistic nationalism
Its champions hate their nation with as much zeal as old-style nationalists celebrate it.

Göran Adamson
19th November 2020

It was George Orwell, in his 1945 essay Notes on Nationalism, who came up with the idea of the 'negative nationalist' – someone, that is, who is obsessed with hating his own national culture.

The negative nationalist, Orwell writes, inverts the sentiments of the old-fashioned positive nationalist. Where the positive nationalist reveres and hails his nation's history and culture beyond reason, the negative nationalist denigrates and loathes it beyond reason. Where the positive nationalist elevates his nation above all others, the negative nationalist always compares it unfavourably to others.

In many ways, Orwell's negative nationalist resembles today's multiculturalist. To all intents and purposes the multiculturalist is a nationalist. It is just that his nationalism has been 'transferred' to a distant and exotic culture. He even talks of the same things that the positive nationalist does – roots, culture, history – and he does so with just as much sentimentality and romanticism as the positive nationalist.

Is there a difference between old-fashioned nationalism and the 'transferred nationalism' of the multiculturalist? Yes, but it is merely geographic. While a classic nationalist goes on and on about 'our' roots and 'our' culture, a transferred nationalist talks endlessly about the virtues of 'their' culture and 'their' roots. Think for example of Swedish politician Mona Sahlin, who damned Swedish culture as 'ridiculous' while calling Turkish culture 'so much more refined and authentic'. This is still a form of nationalism. As Orwell argued, the nationalist has strong emotional ties to his own culture, while the negative nationalist, or multiculturalist, 'has chosen to sink his own individuality' into an overseas culture.

Of course, unlike avowed nationalists, negative nationalists, such as multiculturalists, will deny their nationalism. Instead, they will speak at great length about the dangers of nationalism and present themselves as internationalists – that is, as opponents of nationalism as a principle. But their words are betrayed by their continual elevation of other national cultures and the denigration of their own. They may have parted from classic nationalism, but they are no closer to true internationalism. Their entire political worldview expresses a mirror-image of old-style positive nationalism.

Moreover, the flaming passion with which these transferred nationalists speak on behalf of exotic cultures makes you wonder whether we are not, in fact, witnessing nationalists of a particularly zealous bent. Fully aware that any expression of such national-romantic ecstasy at home would be tantamount to political suicide, they pack all their frustrated nationalism in a suitcase, before calmly unpacking it elsewhere, perhaps in an Islamic theocracy far away. And, once there, they can unleash reactionary ideas deemed politically poisonous at home, from religious violence to female submission.

Hence negative nationalism often results in gross hypocrisy. The multiculturalist can claim that 'my nationalist cult is adorable, but yours is fascism'. Transferred nationalists keep paying tribute to progressive values, while betraying them in practice.

There is also a strong masochistic element to negative nationalism
. Indeed, I would argue that, just as an individual masochist experiences sexual pleasure through self-abasement in a context of domination, so a masochist nationalist experiences political pleasure through self-hatred in a context of political domination.

(...)

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/11/19/multiculturalism-is-just-masochistic-nationalism/ (https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/11/19/multiculturalism-is-just-masochistic-nationalism/)

QuoteSelf-Criticism: A Conversation with Göran Adamson


    In 2017, three out of four people suspected of murder in Sweden were migrants — a figure that seems frightfully high. The funny thing is that the Swedish Social Democrats, and others you might call multiculturalists — the "politically correct" — they have not been interested in investigating this, even though these are issues that Swedish people are talking about.

    In Sweden, however, what people talk about are "socioeconomic factors" — which they claim are the causes behind everything: crime, rape, marginalization, exclusion, unemployment and financial issues. The multiculturalists link these issues to our country and say they are something we are to blame for. Those are completely different from culture, which is something that people bring with them when they come to Sweden.

    "Culture," they repeat over and over again, "has nothing to do with it!" So we ask them, "Then how do you explain that migrants from, say, Vietnam or Thailand, have a far lesser propensity for crime than migrants from other parts of the world?"

    Orwell said something like, "I know enough about the working class not to idealize it." You can apply the same concept to... fantasies about other cultures: the fact that we know very little about them because if we knew enough... we would not idealize these countries the way many academics in Sweden, Paris, or London are doing: we would know too much.

    Another aspect here relates to when migrants come to Sweden. They are greeted by those who know very little about their own culture, who care very little about it and who are happy to compare it unfavorably to other cultures. Almost like a pastime. "Oh, you know, the way we treat homosexuals or women or migrants or structural racism in Sweden..." It is simply not true. We all have these dinners and just sit around and harass our own country, and everyone else does the same and we love it.

    If people come to Sweden, how are they supposed to respect Swedish culture if we do not respect it ourselves? But in Sweden, we are not allowed to do that. In basically every other country, every other culture, people have a certain respect — even in dictatorships, they love their country, the tradition, and so on. In dictatorships, of course, if they do not love their country, they are not allowed to say so. If Sweden is such a bad place, why is everyone coming here?... No one is escaping from Sweden to Yemen.

    It is as if we simply cannot accept the fact that we are fortunate and privileged because it goes against our own self-deception.... This whole self-critical, self-harassing attitude is a perfect way to avoid the kind of shame of being privileged. This self-critical attitude among scores of Western elites can only occur in wealthy societies. It is an odd fruit among those who are troubled by the fact that they are privileged and fortunate. But why on earth be troubled by it? Why be ashamed by all those before us who made our country so successful? This is just head-spinningly grotesque.

    So, this is a one-sided tolerance: self-criticism, even if sometimes possibly justified, is replaced by self-annihilation. An idea fostered from above by political elites whereby Western cultures, Western traditions, Western ideas are being dismissed for the benefit of some kind of multicultural veneration and idealization of anything exotic — the more exotic, the better.

    You could say that this whole focus on.... sexual identities and so forth sounds not only like sidetracking, but also an attempt to... engage people in... relatively unimportant battles while there are much more important battles to be fought. Most prominently, the battle against globalization, neo-liberalism, the dismantling of national borders, and the intensifying aggression of predatory nations. Those are the most important.

(edellä oleva oli yhteenvetoa keskustelusta, alla vielä pikku pätkiä itse keskustelusta)

Göran Adamson, an associate professor of sociology with a PhD from the London School of economics, is engaged in public debate in Sweden focusing on issues of free speech and diversity; and an outspoken critic of "multiculturalism." His most recent book — Masochist Nationalism: Multicultural Self-hatred and the Infatuation with the Exotic — was published by Routledge in March 2021.

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Adamson: The interesting thing about Sweden — it may have to do with a kind of masochistic attitude. It seems we are somehow enticed into liking to paint our own culture, our own religion and our own history, background, identity in rather dark colors, and are happy to compare our own culture unfavorably to other cultures. This does not happen only in Sweden. It has been going on in Britain and in many other countries, such as America and France.

(...)

Canlorbe: A common criticism against multiculturalism says that the capitalist class uses immigration to place at its disposal a large, cheap workforce — and to divert indigenous workers from the class struggle. Do you share such line of criticism?

Adamson: I've written about it, myself, in my previous book — The Trojan Horse: A Leftist Criticism of Multiculturalism in the West. Yes, it is a classic criticism, that instead being able to unite against the globalizing elites — the elites are manufacturing these whimsy wars between Swedish workers and migrants. You could say that this whole focus on LGBTQ, sexual identities and so forth sounds not only like sidetracking, but also an attempt to confuse: to engage people into engage in futile, silly, relatively unimportant battles while there are much more important battles to be fought. Most prominently, the battle against globalization, neo-liberalism, the dismantling of national borders, and the intensifying aggression of predatory nations. Those are the most important.

(...)

Also, the entire idea of Islamophobia is ridiculous. If you use the words Islamophobia and Islamophobic, you are really playing a sordid partisan game — because nobody would be called "liberalophobic" if they criticized liberalism. So, there is only one religion, only one structure out there where you can use this: it is Islam. If you are critical towards Islam, you are seen as "phobic" in some way, which is a hugely strange idea that should not be used. (...)

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/17411/goran-adamson (https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/17411/goran-adamson)

QuoteMasochistic Nationalism—A Review

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The simultaneous debasement of one's own culture and the sanctification of those imported from poorer, non-white countries was graphically illustrated in 2002 by the former candidate for Prime Minister, Mona Sahlin. At a meeting of the Turkish youth organisation, she declared, "I think this is in a sense the reason why so many Swedes are so jealous of immigrant groups. You have a culture, an identity, a history, something that binds you together. And what do we have? We have midsummer night and ridiculous stuff like that." Adamson notes that this was not an isolated absurdity but reflects decades of masochistic political discourse within Sweden's political elite. At the same time, ideological blinkers help liberal Swedes avoid the uncomfortable realities of what might euphemistically be called the "troublesome" aspects of exotic cultures. It took Karen Jespersen, the former Minister of Integration in neighbouring Denmark, to point out that "it's hard for cultural self-denial to be more monstrous and horrifying than this."

Post-colonial guilt in Britain and other formerly imperial Western powers can produce similar displays of self-flagellation and denial. For example, when the Jay Report examining child sexual exploitation in the Yorkshire town of Rotherham was published in 2014, it found that the perpetrators were almost entirely Muslim men. Denis McShane, who was the town's MP at the time, frankly admitted in an interview, "I think there was a culture of not wanting to rock the multicultural community boat ... Perhaps yes, as a true Guardian reader and liberal leftie, I suppose I didn't want to raise that [issue] too hard." White liberal guilt among the authorities allowed horrific acts perpetrated by men from former colonies against vulnerable white girls to pass unpunished—not just in Rotherham, but in several towns and cities in England. Had the perpetrators been white men and the victims Muslim girls, it is safe to assume that McShane and other "liberal lefties" would have demanded immediate action from police stations and town halls.

Adamson's judgment is apposite here: masochistic nationalism has led to the replacement of the unfair treatment of minorities with unfair treatment of the majority. However, feelings of post-colonial guilt alone do not necessarily imply any sense of pleasure or grandeur, and the corrupting nature of the masochistic mindset also relies upon the promulgation of blatant falsehoods in defence of confected piety. For instance, a Swedish political party called the Feminist Initiative baldly stated that "Swedish men may well be the number one in the world in terms of harassment and violence against women" (eikö ne ollutkaan suomalaiset  :o); a grotesque and easily disprovable lie given the evidence clearly indicating that men from an immigrant background are significantly over-represented in assaults against women in Sweden.

My only concern about the book is the author's repeated attempts to draw similarities between positive and masochistic nationalisms. While Orwell was correct to draw attention to these, given Adamson's focus and aims, there was no need to stress discourses around the former. Moreover, positive nationalism is not necessarily reactionary: it is a simple fact of life that individuals absorb the culture and modus vivendi of the society in which they are raised and that these naturally contribute to their identity. In Western Europe, in particular, the large numbers of people who have settled in the region in recent decades, often with markedly different values and mores, have produced much anxiety. This is surely understandable, since the multicultural emphasis on tolerance of difference and the relativist suspension of moral judgement has led governments to be tentative at best in their efforts to integrate these new citizens.

In Britain, for example, the 2014 British Social Attitudes Survey found that almost a fifth of respondents (18 percent) thought that British cultural life was "strongly undermined" by immigration, and a further 27 percent thought it was "undermined" (so, 45 percent held a negative view of immigration in regard to its cultural impact). By contrast, only six percent thought cultural life was "strongly enriched" by immigration and a further 29 percent thought it was "enriched" by immigration (so, 35 percent held a positive view of the cultural impact of immigration). This seems to illuminate an uncomfortable fact—that almost half the population thinks that British national identity has been compromised by mass immigration and multiculturalism. Legitimate concerns like these expressed by positive nationalists should not simply be condemned as expressions of unbridled xenophobia.

https://quillette.com/2021/05/15/masochistic-nationalism-a-review/ (https://quillette.com/2021/05/15/masochistic-nationalism-a-review/)

Niin, ja tuohon törmäsin Gad Saadin twitterissä, Görän oli ollut haastattelussa. En ole tuota itse vielä katsonut.

https://video.podtv.live/shows/saad-truth-dr-gad-saad/season/1/episode/1-1 (https://video.podtv.live/shows/saad-truth-dr-gad-saad/season/1/episode/1-1)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 23.07.2021, 11:21:11
Vähän edellä mainittuja Göraninkin juttuja sivuten, tämä woke-hulluus ei lähtenyt lapasesta ihan "luonnollisesti".

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Miljärdöörien / valtamädän tukema BLM perustettiin myös "sattumoisin" 2013.

Muistakaa kuitenkin, Helsingin opettajia kouluttavan Rauhankasvatuksen sanoin:

QuoteRasismin rakenteellinen ja historiallinen ulottuvuus unohdetaan liian usein antirasistisessa työssä ja huomio kiinnitetään yksinomaan rasismin ilmenemiseen yksilöiden ja ryhmien välisessä vuorovaikutuksessa. Rauhankasvatuksen näkökulmasta on tärkeää pureutua rasismia ylläpitäviin rakenteisiin ja muuttaa niitä kestävällä tavalla, sillä sitä kautta saamme aikaan todellista yhteiskunnallista muutosta ja rakennamme yhteiskuntarauhaa. 

https://rauhankasvatus.fi/antirasismi/# (https://rauhankasvatus.fi/antirasismi/#)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,125944.msg3322592.html#msg3322592 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,125944.msg3322592.html#msg3322592)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 27.07.2021, 00:09:21
 ;D

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QuoteClown fragility is a series of rhetorical maneuvers deployed by clowns to avoid engaging with the true fact of their clownery. Most clowns have not developed the necessary clown humility or clown stamina to long endure exposure of their clown tactics. Thus, they tend to lash out.

Clown fragility is a product of clown privilege, which arises in a Clownworld society that promotes and protects clowns from fair criticism. They come to believe clownery is merit and accomplishment because of corrupt clownlife awards, like the Pulitzer Prize.

It is uncomfortable for most clowns to face the reality of their clownery because they're made comfortable by the privileged position their clownish mediocrity is afforded by Clownworld. This is called clown comfort and is a dimension of clown privilege that requires disruption.

Complicity in Clownworld, which produces clownlife, arises from sustained access to the unearned benefits of being a clown in Clownworld, which are rationalized under clown terms such as "justice" that have been given a new clown definition in Clownworld. This is clown complicity

Clown complicity is a state of both being and dependence for clowns. They cannot participate fully in life outside of a Clownworld, so they maintain that Clownworld for their own benefit. There is no difference between being and doing for clowns in Clownworld. They're clowns.

Clownery is the ordinary state of affairs in Clownworld, not an aberration, its so-called "normal The Science." In Clownworld, the question is not "did clownery take place?" but "how did clownery manifest in this situation?" Clownlife must be intentionally engaged.

Clowns are afforded material and psychic benefits in Clownworld that they have no motivation to criticize or dismantle. Their system of clown-over-reality serves them. Clowns will therefore go to great lengths to maintain their clownlives, including violence and extortion.

I believe that clowns do the most daily damage to our society. There is no such thing as a positive clown identity. Clowns must actively strive to become less clown.

Critical Clown Theory questions the very foundations of the Clownworld order, including equity theory, clown concept of "justice," counter-Enlightenment irrationalism, and the biased principles of self-serving policy.

I have come to see clown privilege as an invisible clowncar of unearned assets which clowns can count on cashing in each day, but about which clowns do the work to remain oblivious about. Clown privilege is like an invisible weightless clowncar of special provisions and grifts.

There is a difference between being politically clown and looking like a clown.

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"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."

-Thomas Jefferson
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 27.07.2021, 19:48:23
Quote from: zupi on 23.07.2021, 11:21:11
Vähän edellä mainittuja Göraninkin juttuja sivuten, tämä woke-hulluus ei lähtenyt lapasesta ihan "luonnollisesti".
(...)

Twiittiketjussa / linkeissä enemmän dataa siitä, miten valtamedia on viimeisen kymmenen vuoden aikana pyrkinyt muokkaamaan ihmisten näkemyksiä ja käsityksiä. Tosin joidenkin "ennakkoluulojen" kohdalla tilanne ei ole täysin selkeä.

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Quote1/n Just published with my colleagues @Musa_alGharbi
and J Halberstadt: "Prevalence of Prejudice-Denoting Words in News Media Discourse: A Chronological Analysis"
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/08944393211031452
Summary: https://davidrozado.substack.com/p/ppdwnmd

2/n Our results show that the frequency of words that denote specific prejudice types related to ethnicity, gender, sexual and religious orientation has markedly increased within the 2010-2019 decade across most news media outlets.

3/n The increasing prevalence of prejudice denoting words in news media starts prior to 2015

4/n The growing usage of prejudice related words in news articles has been consistent across news outlets regardless of their ideological leanings, but overall, prejudice-denoting words appear to be less prevalent in centrist outlets

5/n Factor analysis of 40 prejudice-signifying words prevalence in news media shows that a single factor accounts for over 76% of all the variance

6/n The racism theme displays the highest absolute prevalence in news written articles followed by anti-Semitism, sexism and homophobia. Islamophobia and transphobia appear to be less prevalent

7/n Correlations of yearly frequency counts for prejudice themes suggests occasional synchronicity along ideological leanings

8/n Correlation between prejudice-denoting words in written news media and TV cable news is large. The source for cable news data is Stanford Cable TV News Analyzer

9/n Granger-causality tests show that some influential outlets (in red below) preceded others on the usage dynamics of prejudice related terms. Note that the name Granger-causality is misleading, precedence in time is necessary but not sufficient to establish causation

10/n Granger tests suggest that the prevalence of prejudice-denoting terms in news outlets can be predictive of shifts in public perceptions of prejudice severity in society for some, but not all, types of prejudice

11/end We hope future studies look in-depth at potential causal factors for the trends described above as well as the impact of news media rhetoric on public consciousness and the social implications of growing perceptions of prejudice severity among the general population.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.07.2021, 19:58:42
Quote from: zupi on 27.07.2021, 19:48:23

Twiittiketjussa / linkeissä enemmän dataa siitä, miten valtamedia on viimeisen kymmenen vuoden aikana pyrkinyt muokkaamaan ihmisten näkemyksiä ja käsityksiä. Tosin joidenkin "ennakkoluulojen" kohdalla tilanne ei ole täysin selkeä.

Liitetiedostossa koko roska.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 27.07.2021, 22:27:16
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Olet syyllinen blackexploitingiin?
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Näin se yksinkertaisesti täytyy olla. Mitäs jos soittaa valkoista jazz-musiikkia?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Timo Rainela on 30.07.2021, 20:49:31
Puheenjohtaja Jussi Halla-aho kirjoittaa woke-kulttuurin ristiriitaisuuksista. Woke tarkoittaa kiivasta, yleensä uhriutumisherkkää vihervasemmiston politiikkaan herännyttä ihmistä, joka toistelee innokkaasti ilmasto- ja sukupuoliteesejä niitä kyseenalaistamatta.

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/halla-aho-woke-kulttuuri-vaatii-taydellisyytta-ja-puhdasoppisuutta-elavilta-ja-kuolleilta/?fbclid=IwAR0sD6zUxbvRtgBoQ_e60N5UT6oyXQGETiwUg1pM8U4UWKoYLR6pSC0VqNI

Quote from: JHaYksi woke-kulttuurin monista erikoisista ja epäterveistä piirteistä on, että ideologista puhdasoppisuutta ja poliittista korrektiutta ei vaadita ainoastaan nykyisyydeltä ja nykyisyydessä eläviltä ihmisiltä vaan myös menneisyydeltä ja siellä eläneiltä ihmisiltä. Woke-kulttuuri ei hyväksy sitä ajatusta, että arvot ja itsestäänselvyydet muuttuvat aikojen muuttuessa; että kunkin ajan ihmiset elävät oman aikansa arvokehyksessä; ja että tekoja ja sanomisia pitää arvioida sen ajan – eikä nykyajan – standardeja vasten.

Kirjailija L.P. Hartley kiteytti osuvasti: "Menneisyys on vieras maa; asiat tehdään siellä eri tavalla."

Menneisyyttä vaaditaan nykyään noudattamaan tämän päivän moraalisääntöjä ja arvokoodistoja. Menneisyys ei siihen tietenkään kykene, vaan kauan sitten eläneet ihmiset tuomitaan meidän aikamme standardien rikkomisesta. Vanhoja elokuvia vedetään pois jakelusta, tai niiden alkuun ilmestyy varoitustekstejä tähän tyyliin: "Elokuva sisältää ilmaisuja ja stereotypioita, jotka ovat väärin nyt ja jotka olivat väärin silloin."

Tuohon viimeiseen kohtaan kannattaa kiinnittää erityistä huomiota. On esimerkiksi perusteltua edellyttää, että NYKYÄÄN ei käytetä n-sanaa. Meidän aikanamme tiedetään, että sana koetaan loukkaavaksi, joten sen käyttäminen on tietoisesti loukkaavaa. Aina näin ei kuitenkaan ole ollut. Oli aika, jolloin n-sanaa, "eskimoa" tai muita ei koettu loukkaaviksi eikä niitä käytetty loukkaamistarkoituksessa. Siksi on melko mielenvikaista väittää, että niiden käyttäminen esimerkiksi vanhassa elokuvassa tai muussa kontekstissa olisi ollut SILLOIN väärin.

Tällainen väite heijastelee sitä (niin ikään woke-kulttuurille ominaista) ajatusta, että sanan tai muun ilmaisun loukkaavuus olisi kokonaan irrallaan siitä, mitä sen käyttäjä on sanalla tai ilmaisulla TARKOITTANUT. Itse en tietenkään kielitieteilijänä voi tällaista ajattelua hyväksyä, koska ymmärrän, että sanat eivät ole absoluuttisesti (eli tarkoitusperistä irrotettuna) yhtään mitään. Ne ovat äännejonoja. Niillä on vain se merkitys, jonka kieliyhteisö niille antaa, ja tämä – kuten sanottua – vaihtelee ajan mittaan. Se, että jokin on väärin NYT, ei tarkoita, että sama asia olisi automaattisesti ollut väärin myös jonakin muuna ajankohtana.

Yhtä älykästä olisi väittää, että sana "emä" on neutraali nimitys "äidille" NYT ja perustella tämä sillä, että se OLI neutraali nimitys "äidille" ennen kuin germaanista lainattu sana "äiti" syrjäytti sen tässä merkityksessä.

Hollywoodissa on tehty viime vuosikymmeninä monia antiikin maailmaan ja mytologiaan sijoittuvia spektaakkeleita, kuten "300" tai "Troija". Ne ovat yleensä historiallisessa mielessä täyttä soopaa juuri siksi, että alkuperäiset tarinat sijoittuvat arvomaailmaan, joka on kertakaikkisen käsittämätön tämän päivän ihmisille. Menneisyyden maailmassa oli paitsi normaalia myös sankarillista, että vihollisen kaupungin valloittanut sotapäällikkö tappoi miehet, raiskasi naiset ja vei lapset orjiksi (ja poltti kaupungin maan tasalle). Tämän päivän yleisölle olisi vaikea tarjoilla sankarihahmoa, joka käyttäytyisi tällä tavalla.

Sata vuotta sitten homofobia, rasismi, antisemitismi ja monet muut ajattelutavat, jotka nykyisen konsensuksen mukaan ovat väärin, olivat valtavirtaa. Ne eivät rajoittuneet natsismin kaltaisiin ideologisiin liikkeisiin tai "pahoihin" ihmisiin. Tavalliset ihmiset ajattelivat sillä tavalla, eivätkä he kokeneet kannattavansa mitään ääriajattelua. Maailma oli toisenlainen kuin nyt. Jos tämän päivän "tolkun ihmiset" siirrettäisiin sen ajan maailmaan, he ajattelisivat kuten sen ajan ihmiset ajattelivat.

Woke-kulttuuri vaatii täydellisyyttä ja puhdasoppisuutta eläviltä ja kuolleilta. Elävistäkään harva kykenee täyttämään näitä vaatimuksia, kuolleista ei yksikään. Jokainen menneisyydessä elänyt ihminen, jonka ajatuksista ja sanomisista on säilynyt dokumentaatiota, on sanonut tai ajatellut jotain, mikä tämän päivän standardeilla tekee heistä pahoja ja kelvottomia ihmisiä, joiden patsaat on kaadettava, kirjat poltettava ja nimet raaputettava muistolaatoista.

Palaan vielä siihen ajatukseen, että jos jokin menneisyydessä sanottu on väärin NYT, se olisi ollut väärin MYÖS MENNEISYYDESSÄ. Entä jos jokin, mikä NYT on hyväksyttävää ja normaalia, onkin sadan vuoden kuluttua, 2100-luvun standardeilla, väärin ja paheksuttavaa? Seuraako siitä, että se on väärin ja paheksuttavaa myös nyt?

Jos me pidämme sata vuotta sitten toimineita ihmisiä pahoina siksi, että he eivät noudattaneet meidän aikamme sääntöjä, onko sadan vuoden päästä elävillä ihmisillä oikeus ja perusteet pitää meitä pahoina, ellemme osaa noudattaa tulevaisuuden sääntöjä?

Wokettajilla, kuten kaikkien aikojen fanaatikoilla, lienee se harha, että juuri tämä aika on jollakin tavalla erityinen. Historian päätepiste. Että juuri nyt maailma on tulossa valmiiksi ja oikea ja väärä osataan määritellä tavalla, joka kestää ajasta iäisyyteen.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 01.08.2021, 00:43:21
Heitellään taas joitain Seerutin twiittejä, kun mimmillä on aika hyviä mietteitä.

https://mobile.twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://mobile.twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

QuotePeople who can't even govern themselves have the audacity to think they can govern the world.
4.24 ap. · 18. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

It's not helpful to tell people that normal life experiences qualify as 'trauma'.
4.48 ip. · 18. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

You can't debate reality with someone whose mission is to convert people in to believing in their illusions.
10.07 ip. · 18. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Nothing says 'social justice' like white middle class college kids attempting to destroy the reputations of black & brown people who don't believe in the bullshit you 'learned' in college.
6.26 ap. · 21. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Identity politics is used to deliberately obfuscate class-based struggle. While punching down hard & cruelly, but pretending they're punching up.
6.34 ap. · 21. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Jordan Peterson didn't 'radicalise' anyone- he just interrupted indoctrination with actual facts & data. That's extremely inconvenient for the ones indoctrinating you.
5.15 ip. · 22. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Blindly hating men, hating conservatives, hating white people- it's the same psychological mechanisms that produce racism. Dehumanisation.
5.08 ip. · 24. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

If you're easily offended, you're easily manipulated. You turn yourself into a wind up toy that anyone can use.
7.57 ip. · 25. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Almost all woke academic theory can be summed up as pathological overthinking, arriving at the wrong conclusion, and then over using the thesaurus.
1.43 ap. · 27. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

It's WILDLY unethical that detransitioners aren't met with the same affirmation & institutional support as transitioners.
3.53 ip. · 27. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

It's not the responsibility of strangers on the internet to: •Make you feel safe •Cater to your individual experience •Alter themselves to make you feel more comfortable •Validate you •Anything else you demand of them. They are strangers. On the internet.
9.23 ip. · 28. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

So many people seem shocked to discover that life is really hard, they incorrectly assess this as an aberration & then find things to assign blame to.
6.16 ap. · 10. toukok. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Remember when people had personalities not identities?
1.11 ap. · 30. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Actual mental illness is still very much stigmatised. Instead, what had been de-stigmatised is self-indulgence, self-absorption, fragility, entitlement & learned helplessness.
2.15 ap. · 30. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

A serious social issue of this age is that people say what they imagine will make them sound like a nice person- instead of saying what they actually think.
6.24 ip. · 30. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

"Punctuality is white supremacy" Have you realised we are in the dystopia yet?
8.37 ip. · 30. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone

What we're living through feels incredibly surreal, dystopian, because what we know to be objective reality is contradicted by the dominant culture. The Great Gaslightenment.
11.38 ip. · 31. heinäk. 2021·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 01.08.2021, 13:10:35
Uusi, ehkä vähän selkeämpi versio.

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Vanha:
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3315716.html#msg3315716 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3315716.html#msg3315716)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.08.2021, 00:26:43
Helena vähän taas avautuu sekopäisistä sadistisista wokstereista hyvistä ihmisistä. Huomaatteko muuten jotain yhtäläisyyttä erään toisen ryhmän toimintaan?

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Quotesuch a manipulative cult. they tell you all of your problems are bc you're trans, guilt tripping, grooming and gaslighting you every step of the way, and then when the pain and regret and awareness that you were taken advantage of hits, they want u to feel guilty about that too

not even going to bother explaining why getting a "reconstruction" is not the same as never having your breasts removed by an industry vulture in the first place, they know it's not the same. i bet on some level they know it's flat out evil too. they just don't care

"get a reconstruction" "go to voice therapy" "being hairy doesn't make you any less of a woman"

thanks genius. problem solved. none of us have ever thought of these things before. (hymiö)

no amount of money spent on compensation will ever make up for having your body integrity taken away from you by medical industry vultures and groomers who targeted you when you were 13 and vulnerable.

human beings aren't mr potato heads who can just be operated on every other year to have different body parts taken off and put back on.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: justustr on 04.08.2021, 00:57:46
Quote from: zupi on 04.08.2021, 00:26:43
Helena vähän taas avautuu sekopäisistä sadistisista wokstereista hyvistä ihmisistä. Huomaatteko muuten jotain yhtäläisyyttä erään toisen ryhmän toimintaan?

Kyllä. Viittaat varmaan edustamiisi denialisteihin? Hyvien ihmisten metodithan on täsmälleen samat kuin salaliittohörhöillä: valehtelu, vääristely ja toiston voima. Kun samaa soopaa jauhetaan riittävän pitkään ja riittävän monesta tuutista niin väitteet ikään kuin muuttuu todeksi. Myös vihollinen on yhteinen: nk. normaali väestö.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.08.2021, 18:43:42
Tämä taitaa sopia tänne. Sasia halveksin, mutta kirjoitus on aika hyvä.

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Kimmo Sasi: Koemmeko 1970-luvun radikalismin uudelleen?
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EEC-sopimus oli suuri saatana, joka uhkasi viedä Suomen väärään suuntaan. Opetuksen haluttiin antavan oppilaille viranomaisten määräämän uuden "totuudellisen" tiedon. Pirkkalassa uutta aineistoa päästiin kokeilemaankin. Suomalaista elämänmuotoa ja kansallisuusaatetta vastaan hyökättiin ja sotaveteraanien arvostus haluttiin romuttaa, koska he olivat taistelleet väärän asian puolesta. Kaikkien piti tietää, että sosialismi oli luonut uuden ihmisen, joka oli sivistyksellisesti ja biologisesti korkeammalla tasolla.

Liikkeen metodit olivat mielenkiintoisia. Piti löytää suuri vaarallinen vastustaja. Se oli äärioikeisto. Ihmisten leimaaminen äärioikeistolaisiksi oli tehokas ase.
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Toinen tärkeä keino oli itsesensuuri. Sodan seurauksena oli ymmärrettävää, että voittajaa, Neuvostoliittoa ei saanut arvostella. Mutta ääriliike onnistui pitkälle laajentamaan itsesensuuria siten, että Neuvostoliiton yhteiskuntajärjestelmää, sosialismia, ei saanut arvostella.
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Käsitteille annettiin uusi sisältö. Kansandemokratia oli liberaalia demokratiaa korkeampi hallintomuoto, koska siinä tiedostava luokka johti yhteiskuntaa kansan parhaaksi. Päätöksiä ei voinut jättää kansalaisten arvaamattomien oivallusten varaan. Sosialistiset ihmisoikeudet olivat parempia, koska niillä ei saanut vaarantaa yhteiskunnan etua. Sosiaaliset oikeudet korvasivat vapausoikeudet. Talous kasvoi ja ympäristö parani, koska tilastot kertoivat niin. Kaikki pohjautui uuteen ylivoimaiseen tieteellisen sosialismin teoriaan, joka ainoana ymmärsi maailman väistämättömän kehityksen ja kapitalismin tuhon.

Kun yhteiskunnallinen kehitys ei mennyt toivottuun suuntaan, luotiin epäluottamusta edustukselliseen demokratiaan. Valtaa vaadittiin kaduille ja erilaisille uusille elimille, mieluiten neuvostoille.
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Politiikan polarisoituminen, keskustelun kärkevyys ja uhkakuvien luominen osoittavat, että elämme jälleen kuohunnan aikakautta.
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Kärkevimmät ilmastoaktivistit pelottelevat maailmanlopulla. He eivät usko markkinatalouden kykyyn ratkaista ohjauksen ja kuluttajakäyttäytymisen ansiosta maapallon lämpenemisongelmaa. He eivät huomioi asioiden mittasuhteita maiden välillä ja päästöjen synnyssä. He syyllistävät ihmiset ja haluavat demonstratiivisesti kontrolloida heidän käyttäytymistään. He haluavat päättää ihmisten ruokavaliosta, joka on tärkeä ihmisen itsemääräämisoikeudelle. Maailman ilmatieteen laitoksen pääjohtaja Petteri Taalas onkin verrannut radikaaliliikettä 1970-luvun taistolaisiin.
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Metodit näillä uusilla liikkeillä, jotka kohtaavat punavihreydessä, ovat tuttuja. On vastustaja, äärioikeisto. Leimaaminen on tapa käydä taistelua vastustajaa vastaan. On vain yksi oikea tulkinta, jonka vain radikaalein johtaja tuntee. Viha vastustajaa kohtaan on oikeutettua. Oikeaoppinen tavoite oikeuttaa keinot. Se oikeuttaa toimimaan myös lain vastaisesti. Armahduksen saa, kun sitä kutsuu kansalaistottelemattomuudeksi.

Vaarallisimmat vaikutukset on itsesensuurilla. Media toimii jälleen kuten 1970-luvulla. Nuorempi radikaali toimittajakunta ajattelee, että heidän tehtävänsä on edistää niitä asioita, jotka ovat "oikeita" tällä hetkellä ja tuomita niiden vastustajat.
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Miksi 1970-luvulla demokratia ja sananvapaus vaarantuivat? Syy oli se, että joukossamme oli aivan liian paljon "hyväntahtoisia hölmöjä". He innostuvat muiden vietäviksi, luulevat tekevänsä hyvää, eivätkä ymmärrä perusasioita. Toivottavasti tilanne pian normalisoituu. Jos radikalismi ajaa liberaalin demokratian kaaokseen, se antaa Kiinan kaltaisille totuuden tietävien johtajien maille vahvan otteen koko maailmasta.

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Robban:
Jo pitkään ovat kirjat taas palaneet rovioilla ja mukaan on otettu sananvapaus, musiikki, elokuvat, tv-sarjat, sarjakuvat, historian henkilöt, kaupalliset tuotteet, sanat ja sanonnat kuten Ylen sensuroima kantasuomalainen sana. Hyväksyttävää on yhteiskunnallinen hyödyttömyys, pyöräily, maoilu, joukkoliikenne, kaupunkiasuminen, miekkarit, pride, islam, vihreä siirtymä ja eläminen oleskeluyhteiskunnassa muiden toverien antamien sääntöjen mukaan.

Jarmo Piironen:
... Yhden oleellisen sanan unohdit mainita ja se on "etuoikeutettu". Tällä sanalla voidaan vaientaa kaikki intersektionaaliseen politiikkaan kohdistuva kritiikki. Etuoikeutetulla ei ole oiketutta puhua, ainoastaan kuunnella ja ottaa opiksi. Käsite etuoikeutettu saa absurdeja piirteitä. Työtön britti mies kun on etuoikeutettu suhteessa Sussexin herttuattareen, jolloin hänellä ei ole oikeutta arvostella kuningasperheeseen kuuluvan amerikkalaismiljonäärin käytöstä, vaan se leimataan rasismiksi.

Pentti Pakarinen:
Sosialismi on teurastanut yli 100 miljoonaa ihmistä Kiinassa, Venäjällä, Kamputseassa, jne. Jonain päivänä näiden uhrien haamut nousevat vielä vaatimaan hyvitystä. Sen seurauksena vasemmistolaisuudelle voi vielä tulla tukalat paikat. Toivottavasti kuitenkin kaikki tämä ei tuhoa sananvapautta maailmassa, sikäli mikäli meillä silloin enää sananvapautta on. Sananvapaus on väistämättä supistuva oikeus, joka voi kadota vielä kokonaan vihervasemmiston syöveriin. Suomessa näin on tapahtumassa kovaa vauhtia.

Lopuksi totean, että 1970-luvun alussa, kun oli kaikenlaisia opiskelijavaaleja, Helsingin kauppakorkeakoulun suurin puolue olivat kommunistit. Näin meille ensimmäisen vuosikurssin opiskelijoille silloinen rehtori kertoi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: L. Brander on 04.08.2021, 19:14:43
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.08.2021, 18:43:42
Tämä taitaa sopia tänne. Sasia halveksin, mutta kirjoitus on aika hyvä.

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/koemmeko-1970-luvun-radikalismin-uudelleen/#a7a9b88b]
Kimmo Sasi: Koemmeko 1970-luvun radikalismin uudelleen?
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Ihan hyvä teksti, jossa ei nyt kuitenkaan mitään uutta. Sasi jättää huomiotta hänen itsensä ja kokoomuksen panoksen ikävän tilanteen mahdollistamiseksi. Kokoomus ei ole ainoastaan tehnyt yhteistyötä radikaalivasemmiston kanssa eduskunnassa ja hallituksissa. Kokoomus on määrätietoisesti yrittänyt kaventaa ilmaisuvapautta, ylistänyt internationalismia globalismin, EU:n ja sen liittovaltiokehityksen kautta, tukenut EU:n täysin päätöntä ja epärealistista ilmastopolitiikkaa, saarnannut fanaattisesti ohjatun ja pakotetun monikulttuurisuuden puolesta sekä tehnyt kaikkensa, että Suomeen tultaisiin ja jäätäisiin sosiaaliturvan varaan. Kokoomus äänestäjineen on ollut tämän hulluuden takuumies yli kaksikymmentä vuotta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: sancai on 04.08.2021, 19:36:25
Taistolaisuus muistuttaa hyvin paljon nykyistä woke-liikehdintää. Sasi tuntuu kuitenkin vertaavan nykyistä ilmapiiriä suoraan taistolaisuuteen ja uskovan, että tämä menee itsekseen ohi taistolaisuuden tavoin (tosin taistolaisuus ei koskaan mennyt täysin ohi, ne vanhat taistolaiset rakenteet jatkoivat institutioiden mädättämistä koko ajan). En ole yhtä optimistinen, muutamia pointteja, joita olen pohtinut, miksi nykyinen ilmapiiri on vaarallisempi:


- Taistolaisuus oli vahvasti sidoksissa Neuvostoliittoon. Taistolaisuus saavutti asemansa puhtaasti Neuvostoliiton rahallisella avulla. Nykyinen woke-aate tuntuu tulevan länsimaiden sisältä, meidän omien pyhien instituutioitemme ytimistä.

- 60-70-lukujen yleislänsimaalainen radikaalivasemmistolainen liikehdintä tapahtui kylmän sodan vastakkainasettelun aikana. Länsimaisella oikeistolla oli konkreettinen vihollinen, Neuvostoliitto, jota vastaan ymmärrettiin käyvän kulttuurisotaa. Nykyään vihollinen puuttuu, minkä takia keskustaoikeisto ei tunnista äärivasemmiston uhkaa, eikä tee mitään.

- Taistolaisuus kaikessa radikaaliudessaan oli hyvin suomalainen ilmiö. 60-luvulla radikaalivasemmistolaiset tuulet pyyhkivät länsimaiden kulttuuria, mutta Suomi oli yksi niistä harvoista maista, joissa Neuvostoliiton fanitus jatkui 80-luvulle. Mikä tärkeintä, Yhdysvaltalaiset instituutiot eivät sortuneet ja amerikkalainen kulttuuri avoimesti torjui sosialismin näihin päiviin asti. Nyt se on muuttunut ja radikalismin ydin on USA.

- Taistolaisuus jäi yliopistoihin ja mediaan. Yritysmaailma säilyi vahingoitta, koska taistolaisuus oli avoimesti kommunistinen aate. Toista on woketus, joka tietoisesti leviää ja loisii suuryrityksissä, koska onnistuu piilottamaan marxilaiset tarkoitusperänsä keskustaoikeistolaisilta, jotka eivät tunnista uhkaa. Siinä missä taistolaisuus hyökkäsi kapitalismia vastaan, woke-aate on punkki, joka lihoo suuryrityksistä pumppaamallaan verellä.


Olen sitä mieltä, että Sasin ja aateveljiensä lapsellinen usko "liberaalidemokratiaan" koituu turmioksemme. Sasi uskoo, että meidän ei tarvitse taistella radikaalivasemmistolaisuutta vastaan, koska länsimainen "liberaalidemokratia" automaattisesti korjaa tilanteen jotenkin jossain vaiheessa.

Tämä "uusliberalismi" on perua ysäriltä, jolloin todellakin uskottiin, että Neuvostoliiton hajoaminen todisti, että länsimaalainen ihmisoikeuskäsitys ja vapaa markkinatalous leviävät nyt väistämättä koko maailmaan ja kaikki suuret poliittiset aatteet ovat kuolleita. Seuraa ikuinen liberalisoituminen, valtioiden rajat katoavat, uskonnot katoavat ja kaikki suvaitsevat toisiaan ja vaurastuvat yhteisymmärryksessä. Uskottiin, että vapaa markkintalous automaattisesti tuottaa lisää vapaata markkinataloutta ja lisää yksilönvapauksia, tätä oli ns. globalismi. Nämä kaikki ennusteet vaan menivät katastrofaalisesti pieleen:

- Syntyi ääri-islam. Vielä ysärillä ääri-islamia pidettiin salaliittoteoriana ja uskottiin, että muslimimaat liberalisoituvat automaattisesti. Turkin uskottiin olevan pian länsimaa.
- Maahanmuuttajat eivät integroituneet, ysärillä uskottiin, että maahanmuutto ei ole ongelma, koska he automaattisesti haluavat sulautua ylivertaiseen markkinaliberaaliin yhteiskuntaan.
- Monikultturismista ei syntynyt onnelaa, vaan länsimaat jakautuivat rotu- ja uskontoristiriitojen takia ennennäkemättömään vihaan ja katkeruuteen, nyt kaupungit palavat rotumellakoissa ja pommit räjähtelevät islamilaisissa terrori-iskuissa.
- Kiina avasi markkinat, mutta ei liberalisoitunut vaan muuttui kansallissosialistiseksi
- Venäjä epäonnistui
- Länsimaiden kansalaiset eivät halunneetkaan omaksua globaalia identiteettiä, vaan 2000-luvusta tuli kansallismielisten puolueiden nousun vuosikymmen


ja viimeisimpänä:

- Kommunismi ei kuollut länsimaista, vaikka Neuvostoliitto hajosi, vaan voimaantui ja kasvoi yliopistoissa. Talouskasvu ja yksilönvapaudet eivät automaattisesti johtaneetkaan markkinatalousmyönteisten aatteiden kannatukseen.

En usko "liberaalidemokratian" kaikkivoipaisuuteen. Useat länsimaat, Suomi etunenässä, ovat jo osoittaneet miten helposti sananvapaus ja vapaa tiedonvälitys katoavat jopa vapaassa länsimaassa. Mielestäni sananvapaus on tärkein liberaalia demokratiaa ylläpitävä voima ja siitä ei ole pian mitään jäljellä, sananvapauskriittisyys on jo täysin valtavirtainen aate. Sananvapauden puolustaminen painottamatta sen "rajoja" ja "vastuuta" on nyt "äärioikeistolainen" kanta. Siitä ei ole kuin kymmenisen vuotta, kun Yhdysvalloissa liberaalit marssivat uusnatsien mielenosoitusoikeuden vuoksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.08.2021, 21:20:07
Toteanpa jälleen omana näkemyksenäni, että CSJ / woketus - sonta olisi edelleen kohtuullisen marginaalinen ilmiö, ellei valtamätä olisi katsonut, että tuo aate on varsin hyödyllinen heidän omien tavoitteidensa kannalta. Eikä se todellakaan ole mikään yllätys, että tämä kehitys alkoi edellisen, 2008-2009 talousromahduksen jälkeen. Siis sen jälkeen, kun Hussein Obama lapioi karmeita summia rahaa tavallisten kansalaisten taskuista kusipäisten pankkiirien taskuihin. Joista kukaan ei joutunut vastuuseen mistään, taskut vaan täyttyivät entisestään.

Suuri ongelmahan valtamädällä on nykyisin, että heillä ei enää ole tiedonvälityksen monopolia, internet periaatteessa on rikkonut sen. Niinpä valtamädän kannalta erittäin ikävät uutiset ja paljastukset "systeemin" mädäntyneisyydestä leviävät netissä varsin laajalle, vaikka valtamedia yrittää miten rummuttaa sitä narratiivia. Mutta mitenkä sitä nyt voisi valistuneessa, vapaassa, yksilön oikeuksia kunnioittavassa länsimaisessa demokraattisessa yhteiskunnassa lähteä sensuroimaan ihmisten mielipiteitä ja sulkemaan tiedonvälityskanavia, joissa näitä näkemyksiä esitetään? Eihän sellaista voi tehdä, yritykset tällaiseen toimintaan törmäisivät karmeaan vastustukseen. Me Jumalasta seuraavat emme nyt oikein pidä näistä mielipideistä, joten heitämme kaverin vankilaan ja suljemme alustan, missä mielipiteet on esitetty...

Ei tietenkään, tämähän vaatii sen, että ollaan suojelemassa jotain. Ja tässä sadistiset woksterit tulevatkin sitten kuvaan mukaan. Tuolle poppoolle ei millään ole paskankaan merkitystä, paitsi heidän pyhillä kulttiaatteillaan ja niiden edistämisellä. Tuon poppoon fanaattisuudessa ja vaarallisuudessa jäävät partaislamistitkin kevyesti kakkoseksi. Valtamädän ei tarvitse tehdä muuta kuin leimata kaikki itsensä kannalta epämiellyttävät asiat pyhien wokeaatteiden vihollisiksi, niin heti on vähintään kymmeniä miljoonia, ellei jopa satoja miljoonia aivopestyjä ääliöitä raivoamassa netissä sen puolesta, että nuo epämiellyttävät asiat pyyhkäistään pois maan päältä. Tässä vaiheessa ei vielä ihmisiä, mutta eipä taida tuokaan enää kovin kaukana olla. Eli kaikki vääriä mielipiteitä esittävät leimataan saman tien joksikin aivan saatanan pahaksi (vihapuhujat, äärioikeisto, ekstremistit, demokratian viholliset, terroristit....), jotka vaarantavat hyviä ihmisiä, ja etenkin jotain "sorrettua ihmisryhmää".

Tuo woksterien ja valtamädän liitto on kyllä totaalisen sairas. Tuon seurauksena esim. se tietyssä mielessä järkevä vasemmisto (sellainenkin on ja sellainen tarvitaan) on tallottu jonnekin pari kilometriä maan alle. Kaipa siinä kummankin tahon (valtamätä, hullu-woksterit) johto ajattelee, että käytetään nyt noita idiootteja hyväksi, ja sitten myöhemmin "putsataan pöytä". Eipä ole ensimmäinen kerta historiassa, kun valtamätä liittoutuu hullujen kanssa tuhotakseen heitä vastustavat tahot. Kun en ole historioitsija, niin en tiedä, onko tuosta koskaan seurannut mitään hyvää. Ei olisi ainakaan ensimmäinen kerta, kun homma on mennyt ihan totaalisen reisille.

Mutta siis tuo asia, että tällä kertaa länsimaiden valtamätä tukee estotta noita woke-hulluja, ja päinvastoin, tekee tilanteesta erityisen vaarallisen, ja aiemmasta poikkeavan. Se, että saisi ihmiset huomaamaan vaaran, on todella hankalaa, koska niin valtamätä, valtamedia kuin "instituutiot", laitokset ja virastot ajavat tuota samaa totalitarismi-aatetta. Tavoitehan tuossa valtamädän osalta nähdäkseni on, että länsimaista muodostetaan vähän nyky-Kiinan kaltainen yhteiskunta, missä sinänsä taloudellisesti voi mennä ihan kohtuullisen hyvin, mutta tavalliset ihmiset ovat lähempänä orjaa kuin vapaata ja itsenäistä kansalaista. Eliitti kikkailee mitä kikkailee, ja tuloksesta riippumatta on aina oikeassa. Orjat pitäköön päänsä kiinni ja palatkoon sorvin ääreen.

Ja kokkareista vielä sen verran, että tuo sontasakki on kyllä omastakin mielestä yksi suurimpia syitä nykykehitykseen. Ihan saatanan oksettavaa sakkia. Sieltä aina valitut ihmiset höpöttelee ja kirjoittelee ihan järkeviä mielipiteitä, ja lammaskansa sitten jotenkin yhdistää nuo mielipiteet puolueeseen. Vaikka oikeasti kyseinen puolue ajaa karmealla voimalla juuri päinvastaisia tavoitteita. Ja noista "järkeviä mielipiteitä" esittävistä kokkareista olen kyllä itse sitä mieltä, että ovat pelkkiä itsekkäitä valehtelijoita. Jos olisivat oikeasti mielipiteidensä takana, niin olisivat lähteet lätkimään sontatunkiosta nimeltä kokkarit jo kauan sitten.

Edit. Lisätään vielä sen verran, että se, mitä tapahtui 2008-2010, on niin kaukana kapitalismista kuin vain voi olla.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kekkeruusi on 04.08.2021, 21:37:16
Quote from: zupi on 04.08.2021, 21:20:07

Toteanpa jälleen omana näkemyksenäni, että CSJ / woketus - sonta olisi edelleen kohtuullisen marginaalinen ilmiö, ellei valtamätä olisi katsonut, että tuo aate on varsin hyödyllinen heidän omien tavoitteidensa kannalta. Eikä se todellakaan ole mikään yllätys, että tämä kehitys alkoi edellisen, 2008-2009 talousromahduksen jälkeen.
Ei, se alkoi jo joskus 1970-luvulla neukkulan toimesta, niin kuin Juri Bezmenov on asiasta kertonut. Kommunistista länsimaisten yhteiskuntien romahtamiseen tähtäävää toimintaa. Neukkula kaatui, mutta "syöpä" oli jo saanut alkunsa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.08.2021, 17:06:59
Sekaisin koko rahalla...

Seerut:

QuoteNo trigger warnings. No safe spaces.

Build resilience & be your own damn 'safe space'.
8:46 PM · Aug 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

I've never met anyone truly virtuous who's felt the need to advertise it.
8:49 PM · Aug 6, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Wokeness prioritises the appearance of 'goodness', over goodness itself.
5:46 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Wokeness fights for the rights of black, brown, disabled, gay, lesbian, women & trans people.

Unless they're the wrong kind of black, brown, disabled, gay, lesbian or trans person- then they try to destroy your life.

Almost as if it's not about their rights at all...

9:36 PM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

There's a streak of narcissism in taking it upon yourself to speak for an entire 'community'.

If the community didn't vote & elect you speak for them, you're speaking for yourself.
9:58 PM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

No one with good intentions makes it socially unacceptable to ask good faith questions.
1:41 AM · Aug 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

Tämä vähän OT, mutta pitipä heittää kuitenkin.

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(recoil = hätkähtää tms.)

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James:

QuoteYou're driving. You stop to let someone cross on a crosswalk, and they do, without looking. A car coming the other direction does not stop and hits the person. Who is at fault?

If we think systemically, everyone but the pedestrian. Everyone. Everyone who drives, sells cars, etc.
7:17 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android


We have a system that leads people to drive cars, to *need* to drive cars, to be *unable* to solve their problems without driving cars. In which people profit from selling cars, making cars, putting fuel in cars, extracting and refining the fuel, metal, rubber, etc, to make cars.
7:19 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android

All of those people, everyone who supports an economy of cars, is complicit in this and every traffic death, injury, or inconvenience, not to mention the different impacts on people because not everyone has cars or equally good cars. These are systemic harms based on cars.
7:20 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android

his whole system and all its beneficiaries are therefore complicit in car culture, which kills tens of thousands per year. They have car complicity, which they rationalize as normal and justified because it benefits them. Their car-driving life is comfortable for them.
7:22 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android

Not only people who drive cars, but people who depend on and benefit from an economic system enabled and supplies by cars (and trucks), people who lay roads, people who develop components put into cars or an economy reliant on them are are complicit and willfully ignorant of it.
7:24 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android

This is how systemic thinking works. This is a Marxian Theory of cars. This is Critical Car Theory.

It's ridiculous bullshit.
7:25 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android

(...)

Conclusion? Need for self-driving cars, a car-free primitive society that's somehow not primitive, government programs to make owning and operating a car very expensive, abolish cars, etc. Whatever Leftist-Marxian political football can be tied to any of it.
8:04 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android

If you disagree, you just want people to die in traffic accidents (so, you're complicit in mass vehicular homicide and manslaughter) and refuse to admit your complicity in the system because you want to maintain your own benefit and comfort. You lack moral humility and stamina.
8:06 AM · Aug 7, 2021·Twitter for Android

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames (https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames)

Ja jotain muuta.

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Täälläkin on vähän Rufoa arvosteltu, mutta pitäisi ehkä huomioida se, millä vimmalla valtamätä / -media käy hänen(kin) kimppuunsa. Ei voi antaa mitään mustamaalaamisen aihetta.

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Niinpä:

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Ja juurikin näin:

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 08.08.2021, 17:52:17
Tämä se vasta oli hienoa tämä Raytheonin kriittisen rotuteorian huomioiminen työyhteisössä. Etenkin tämä kohta:

Quote from: zupi on 06.07.2021, 22:35:51
QuoteSCOOP: Raytheon, the nation's second-largest defense contractor, has launched a critical race theory program that encourages white employees to confront their "privilege," reject the principle of "equality," and "defund the police."

Let's review the internal documents.

Raytheon then asks white employees to deconstruct their identities and "identify [their] privilege." The company argues that white, straight, Christian men are at the top of the oppression hierarchy—and must work on "recognizing [their] privilege" and "step aside" for minorities.

Muistan eräällä työpaikalla monikulttuurisessa suuressa konsernissa keittäneeni usein kahvia. Kun kahvia teki mieli, kävin lataamassa moccamasterin ja näin sain tuoretta kahvia silloin kun sitä teki mieli. Olin siis etuoikeutettu. En toki tajunnut sitä silloin, vaan keitin pannullisen monena päivänä viikossa.

Olisinpa sllloin tiennyt wokeismista ja kriittisestä rotuteoriasta, niin olisin astunut sivuun ja joku kiinalainen transgenderkääpiö olisi voinut keittää kahvit jatkossa.

Ymmärsinköhän nyt ihan oikein tuon Raytheonin ohjeen?

-i-
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.08.2021, 00:32:59
Pari ekaa vanhoja, viimeinen uusi. Vähän eri asia tietenkin, kun tuossa viimeisessä itse "hyvät ihmiset" esittää mielipiteitään.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.08.2021, 13:28:07
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Netissä saalistavia radikaalivasureita voi kyllä hyvin verrata pedofiileihin. Ja sitten vielä suvakkivanhemmat...  :facepalm: No, tuolla vanhempien mielipiteellä ei välttämättä ole pian enää mitään merkitystä. Muistutuksena, että tuota Abigailin kirjaa on pyritty kaikin keinoin sensuroimaan, monessa tapauksessa siinä onnistuen.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 12.08.2021, 00:49:03
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Jotain positiivisia uutisia sentään välillä. Vastauksissa melko sakeaa tavaraa, esim:
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 12.08.2021, 01:00:04
Lisää samaan sarjaan. Woksteri-liike houkuttelee mukaansa kaikki ihmiskunnan pahimmat pervopaskat, ja sitten vielä ylistää heitä.

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QuotePhoto of young child with men in bondage gear wins award from Dutch Pride organizers

A photo from a Pride event in Holland won an award for being "iconic" and the "most aesthetic." It shows a a small child smiling while surrounded by men in bondage gear. The men, in harnesses and shiny black hot pants, are gathered outdoors on a porch where a little girl plays with a swing set.

(...) The photo is called "Celebrating Diversity," and was snapped by Jan van Breda. (...)

In selecting van Breda's photo, the jury stated that "This photo, in its composition - child in the foreground, men preparing for Canal Parade in the background, everyone busy with their own activities and fascinations - sublimely depicts what will hopefully remain self-evident: that we, unhampered by prejudices , and almost unsuspectingly, all may and can exist side by side."

(...)

"Eletään rinta rinnan"...  Sanoo jengi, jonka toiminta perustuu täyteen valehteluun ja lasten aivopesemiseen, ja kenellä on pöksyt märkänä sen suhteen, että kunhan jo pääsis uunittaan kaikki eri mieltä olevat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 13.08.2021, 01:49:24
Quote from: zupi on 08.08.2021, 17:06:59

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Tässä on sinällään vinha perä - mutta minä väitän että semmoista ei ole olemassa kuin vasemmistoliberaali.

Vasemmistolaisuus on AINA totalitaristinen aate, joka pyrkii puolue-eliitin valtaan ja kontrolliin.

Liberalismi sen sijaan alkuperäisessä muodossaan pyrkii yksilön valtaan omista asioistaan. Tätä ei aja tällä hetkellä yksikään merkittävä puolue.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 19.08.2021, 02:10:54
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 19.08.2021, 02:24:19
Juuri niin. Woke on setti mikä sanoo itseään liberaaliksi mutta on totalitaristinen hirviöaate.

Tulee mieleen se juttu missä ne vaatii vapaaehtoisia valkkareita ihmiskilviksi.

Wokea vastaan pitää taistella, sen kaikissa olomuodoissa. Se on vissiin Homma itsessään.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 26.08.2021, 16:15:46
Quote from: Chrattac on 16.12.2020, 17:08:23
Sen verran tuohon mun kirjasuositteluun lisään, että kirja on näemmä nyt Pirkanmaallekin hankinnassa, löytyy tunnuksilla kun hakee PIKI-puolelta (ei näemmä ilman tunnuksia) ja sitä voi jo varata. Suosittelen lämpimästi lukemaan kyseisen teoksen, sisältää hyvin paljon lainauksia ja lähdeviitteitä. Lainauksia lukiessa voi vain pyöritellä silmiään, että miten kummallisia (ja jopa vaarallisia) ajatusmalleja tuolla kuplassa on.
- - -
Suosittelen ehdottomasti hankkimaan kyseisen opuksen luettavakseen. Helmet alueella tosiaan on kirjastossa ja näemmä tulossa nyt myös Pirkanmaalle. Jos noilla alueilla ei asu ja kirjastosta ei opusta löydä voi aina toki laittaa menemään hankintaehdotusta, joka sitten johtaa johonkin tai ei johda mihinkään. Turussa ainakin taitaa moinen opus lentää suoraan uuniin poltettavaksi, ainakin muistelen että siellä taisi olla tämä epämiellyttävien kirjojen tuhoamisella kehuskellut kirjastotäti.

Suositus koskee siis kirjaa Pluckrose & Lindsay: Cynical Theories. Siitä on myös pitkä referaatti Wikipediassa (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynical_Theories).


Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.08.2021, 17:18:59
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 13.08.2021, 01:49:24
Quote from: zupi on 08.08.2021, 17:06:59

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Tässä on sinällään vinha perä - mutta minä väitän että semmoista ei ole olemassa kuin vasemmistoliberaali.

Vasemmistolaisuus on AINA totalitaristinen aate, joka pyrkii puolue-eliitin valtaan ja kontrolliin.

Liberalismi sen sijaan alkuperäisessä muodossaan pyrkii yksilön valtaan omista asioistaan. Tätä ei aja tällä hetkellä yksikään merkittävä puolue.

Melko paljon samaa mieltä.
^^^
Alkuperäisessä twitter ketjussa esitetään, että myös oikea on liukunut oikealla. Kuvat liitteenä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 27.08.2021, 16:52:37
Kirjoitus siitä, miten wokeismi tiputtaa USAn tieteellisen kehityksen kärkipaikalta, Kiinan noustessa tilalle. Millään muulla kun ei ole mitään väliä, kuin lopputulosten tasa-arvolla. Hassu juttu, kun ottaa huomioon sen rahamäärän, minkä Kiina tunkee amerikkalaisiin yliopistoihin (ja pystyy sitä kautta vaikuttamaan niiden toimintaan).

https://quillette.com/2021/08/19/as-us-schools-prioritize-diversity-over-merit-china-is-becoming-the-worlds-stem-leader/ (https://quillette.com/2021/08/19/as-us-schools-prioritize-diversity-over-merit-china-is-becoming-the-worlds-stem-leader/)

QuoteAs US Schools Prioritize Diversity Over Merit, China Is Becoming the World's STEM Leader
19 Aug 2021

All three of us are mathematicians who came to the United States as young immigrants, having been attracted by the unmatched quality and openness of American universities. We came, as many others before and after, with nothing more than a good education and a strong desire to succeed. As David Hilbert famously said, "Mathematics knows no races or geographic boundaries; for mathematics, the cultural world is one country." Having built our careers in US academia, we are proud to call ourselves American mathematicians.

The United States has been dominant in the mathematical sciences since the mass exodus of European scientists in the 1930s. Because mathematics is the basis of science—as well as virtually all major technological advances, including scientific computing, climate modelling, artificial intelligence, cybersecurity, and robotics—US leadership in math has supplied our country with an enormous strategic advantage. But for various reasons, three of which we set out below, the United States is now at risk of losing that dominant position.

First, and most obvious, is the deplorable state of our K-12 math education system. Far too few American public-school children are prepared for careers in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM). This leaves us increasingly dependent on a constant inflow of foreign talent (...)

The second reason for concern is that the nationwide effort to reduce racial disparities, however well-intentioned, has had the unfortunate effect of weakening the connection between merit and scholastic admission. It also has served (sometimes indirectly) to discriminate against certain groups—mainly Asian Americans. (...)

Third, other countries are now competing aggressively with the United States to recruit top talent, using the same policies that worked well for us in the past. Most notably, China, America's main economic and strategic competitor, is in the midst of an extraordinary, mostly successful, effort to improve its universities and research institutions. As a result, it is now able to retain some of the best Chinese scientists and engineers, as well as attract elite recruits from the United States, Europe, and beyond.

(...)

There are numerous underlying factors that help explain these failures—including some that, as mathematicians, we feel competent to address. One obvious problem lies in the way teachers are trained. The vast majority of K-12 math teachers in the United States are graduates of programs that teach little in the way of substantive mathematics beyond so-called math methods courses (which focus on such topics as "understanding the complexities of diverse, multiple-ability classrooms"). This has been true for some time. But the trend has become more noticeable in recent years, as curricula increasingly shift from actual mathematics knowledge to courses about social justice and identity politics.

(...)

An even bigger problem, in our view, is that the educational establishment has an almost complete lock on the content taught in our schools, with little input from the university math community. This unusual feature of American policymaking has led to a constant stream of ill-advised and dumbed-down "reforms," which have served to degrade the teaching of mathematics to such an extent that it has become difficult to distinguish a student who is capable from one who is not.

Those who find that last assertion difficult to accept should peruse the revised Mathematics Framework proposed by California's Department of Education. If implemented, the California framework would do away with any tracking or differentiation of students up to the 11th grade. In order to achieve what the authors call "equity" in math education, the framework would effectively close the main pathway to calculus in high school to all students except those who take extra math outside school—which, in practice, means students from families that can afford enrichment programs (or those going to charter and private schools). California is just one state, of course. But as has been widely noted, when it comes to policymaking, what happens in California today often will come to other states tomorrow.

(...)

The authors write that "a fundamental aim of this framework is to respond to issues of inequity in mathematics learning"; that "we reject ideas of natural gifts and talents [and the] cult of the genius"; and that "active efforts in mathematics teaching are required in order to counter the cultural forces that have led to and continue to perpetuate current inequities." And yet the research they cite to justify these claims has been demonstrated to be shallow, misleadingly applied, vigorously disputed, or just plainly wrong. Even the specific model lessons offered in the proposed framework fail to withstand basic mathematical scrutiny, as they muddle basic logic, present problems that can't be solved by techniques described as being available to students, or list solutions without discussing the need for a proof (thus developing a false understanding of what it means to "solve" a problem—a misconception that university educators such as ourselves must struggle to undo).

(...)

But what started as a well-meaning and sometimes beneficial effort has, over time, transformed into a bureaucratic machine whose goal has gone well beyond fighting discrimination. The new goal is to eliminate disparities in representation by any means possible. This is why education officials in some school boards and cities—and even entire states, such as California and Virginia—are moving to scrap academic tracking and various K-12 gifted programs, which they deem "inequitable." Operating on the same motivations, many universities are abandoning the use of standardized tests such as the SAT and GRE in admissions.

This trend, which reaches across many fields, is especially self-defeating in mathematics, because declining standards in K-12 math education are now feeding into a vicious cycle that threatens to affect all STEM disciplines. As already noted, low-quality K-12 public-school education produces students who exhibit sub-par math skills, with underprivileged minorities suffering the most. This in turn leads to large disparities in admissions at universities, graduate programs, faculty, and STEM industry positions. Those disparities are then, in turn, condemned as manifestations of systemic racism—which results in administrative measures aimed at lowering evaluation criteria. This lowering of standards leads to even worse outcomes and larger disparities, thus pushing the vicious cycle through another loop.

(...)

Unfortunately, the trend is pointing in the opposite direction. In fact, at many of our leading academic and research institutions, including the National Academies of Sciences, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the National Science Foundation, and the National Institutes of Health, scientific excellence is being supplanted by diversity as the determining factor for eligibility in regard to prizes and other distinctions. And some universities, following the example of the University of California, are now implementing measures to evaluate candidates for faculty positions and promotions based not only on the quality of their research, teaching, and service, but also on their specifically articulated commitment to diversity metrics. Various institutions have even introduced pathways to tenure based on diversity activities alone. The potential damage such measures can bring to academic standards in STEM is immense. And the history of science is full of examples that show how performative adherence to a politically favored ideology, easily faked by opportunistic and mediocre scientists, can lead to the devaluation of entire academic fields.

Needless to say, China pursues none of the equity programs that are sweeping the United States. Quite the contrary: It is building on the kind of accelerated, explicitly merit-based programs, centered on gifted students, that are being repudiated by American educators. Having learned its lesson from the Cultural Revolution, when science and merit-based education were all but obliterated in favor of ideological indoctrination, China is pursuing a far-sighted, long-term strategy to create a world-leading corps of elite STEM experts. In some strategically important fields, such as quantum computing, the country is arguably already ahead of the United States.

As part of this effort, China is identifying and nurturing talented math students as early as middle school. At the university entrance level, China relies on a hierarchical, layered system based on a highly competitive, fairly administered, national exam. STEM disciplines are encouraged: According to the World Economic Forum, China has the highest number of STEM grads in the world—at least 4.7 million in 2016. (By comparison, the United States came in third at 569,000. And as noted previously, a large portion of these graduates are foreign nationals.) China also has vastly increased the quality of its top universities, with six now ranked among the best 100 in the world. Tsinghua and Peking (ranked 17th and 18th respectively) now narrowly outrank Columbia, Princeton, and Cornell. As visitors to these Chinese universities (including ourselves) can attest, the average math undergraduate is now performing at a much higher level than his or her counterpart at comparable US institutions.

(...)

Percy Deift, Svetlana Jitomirskaya, and Sergiu Klainerman are professors of mathematics at, respectively, New York University, Georgia Institute of Technology and University of California Irvine, and Princeton University.

Edit. Ei ehkä tarvi hirveästi ihmetellä Suomenkaan laskevia PISA-pisteitä...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.08.2021, 21:27:12
Vivek Ramaswamy kirjoittelee vielä pahemmista tuhoista, mitä wokeismistä seuraa. En laittanut Afganistan ketjuun, kun tässä on aika paljon ketjuun kuulumatontakin.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/17/afghanistan-was-a-ghastly-display-of-how-wokeness-weakens-america/ (https://nypost.com/2021/08/17/afghanistan-was-a-ghastly-display-of-how-wokeness-weakens-america/)

QuoteAfghanistan was a ghastly display of how wokeness weakens America
By Vivek Ramaswamy   
August 17, 2021 7:00pm Updated

Twenty years ago, the military-industrial complex rushed the United States into a pair of wars that cost billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lives — only to end in the abject humiliation of American power in Kabul over the past few days. Meanwhile, defense contractors, who had no financial incentive to properly train an Afghan military to operate independently of them, made out handsomely along the way.

Today, a new alliance of big government and big business seeks to profiteer from the domestic culture war. I call it the woke-industrial complex. The consequences could be even more devastating this time around, for democracy at home and for the moral standing of the United States on the global stage.

As I detail in my new book, "Woke, Inc.," the woke-industrial complex concentrates into the hands of a small group of investors and CEOs the power to determine our social and moral values on a vast range of issues, from climate change to race. (ja maahanmuutto...)

Companies like Blackrock, Goldman Sachs and Twitter leverage their market power to wield undue influence in the marketplace of ideas (...)

Fragility at home begets fragility abroad. The geopolitical consequences of woke-ism were painfully on display during our ignominious departure from Afghanistan. Pundits who criticized President Biden's flawed execution missed the more important point: The only way to have ensured an orderly exit from Afghanistan was to impress the fear of total decimation upon the Taliban in response to malign behavior.

Yet Biden made no such threat, and even if he had, the Taliban would have known that he wouldn't have followed through on it. When the commander-in-chief of the United States obsessively criticizes our country — including by claiming, as Biden did, that "systemic racism" stains our national "soul" — Washington loses its moral standing to project strength abroad precisely at the moments we need it most.

The Taliban exploited this grim reality to the fullest extent.

(...) If America's president doesn't believe in American exceptionalism, no one else will, either.

Another factor compounded our compromised geopolitical position: America's top companies have turned their backs on America.

(...)

These corporate actions further contribute to a growing morally relativistic perception of America on the global stage: If the same companies that criticize the United States for injustice say nothing bad about the Taliban or the Beijing regime, that implicitly bolsters the moral standing of the latter at the expense of the former.

So when China invades Taiwan in the years ahead, we can reasonably expect that these same companies will remain silent or even praise Beijing, just as Twitter implicitly aided the Taliban this week at the expense of US interests. China expects it, too. That's what modern progressives miss: Once corporations become vectors to advance progressive agendas, they become vehicles to advance any agenda.

We are only beginning to understand the dangers of the woke agenda and its marriage to American capitalism. The consequences could be existential for American democracy at home and American exceptionalism abroad. The first step in addressing the problem is to expose it and speak out against it.

Tuosta Woke, Inc. kirjasta lyhyt lainaus Amazonin sivulta:

QuoteThere's a new invisible force at work in our economic and cultural lives. It affects every advertisement we see and every product we buy, from our morning coffee to a new pair of shoes.  "Stakeholder capitalism" makes rosy promises of a better, more diverse, environmentally-friendly world, but in reality this ideology championed by America's business and political leaders robs us of our money, our voice, and our identity.

Vivek Ramaswamy is a traitor to his class. He's founded multibillion-dollar enterprises, led a biotech company as CEO, he became a hedge fund partner in his 20s, trained as a scientist at Harvard and a lawyer at Yale, and grew up the child of immigrants in a small town in Ohio. Now he takes us behind the scenes into corporate boardrooms and five-star conferences, into Ivy League classrooms and secretive nonprofits, to reveal the defining scam of our century.

The modern woke-industrial complex divides us as a people.
By mixing morality with consumerism, America's elites prey on our innermost insecurities about who we really are. They sell us cheap social causes and skin-deep identities to satisfy our hunger for a cause and our search for meaning, at a moment when we as Americans lack both.

Quote"Vivek Ramaswamy provides the single most informative and insightful analysis yet of woke ideology...Woke, Inc. is indispensable for understanding how America's newest and most consequential cultural dogma is fundamentally transforming virtually every sector of our lives."―Glenn Greenwald, journalist, constitutional lawyer, and author of four New York Times bestselling books

https://www.amazon.com/Woke-Inc-Corporate-Americas-Justice/dp/1546090789/ (https://www.amazon.com/Woke-Inc-Corporate-Americas-Justice/dp/1546090789/)

Heitetään vielä tämä mukaan:

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Miten muuten woksterit voi vaatia, että länsimaiden pitäisi jollain tavalla aseellisesti estää talipallojen toimia? Tottahan toki jokainen suloinen, vuosikausia sorrettu talipallokin on sata kertaa korkeammalla intersektionaalisessa uhrihierarkiassa kuin esim. rasisti-sovinisti-islamofobisti-sortaja-suomiVHM. Ei meillä ole mitään oikeutta puuttua heidän tekemisiinsä, korkeintaan mennä sinne polvistumaan heidän eteensä, nyrkki pystyssä. Ehkä Afganistaniin pitäisikin lähettää neekereitä Afrikasta, jos jotain toimia tarvitaan? Heillä on varmasti tarvittava määrä uhripisteitä, jotta voivat sekaantua asiaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 30.08.2021, 12:02:21
Amerikkalainen (ainakin ennen) arvostettu yleistajuinen tiedelehti Scientific American julkaisi artikkelin, jossa arvostellaan matematiikan valkoisuutta ja patriarkaalisuutta:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/modern-mathematics-confronts-its-white-patriarchal-past/
Quote
Modern Mathematics Confronts Its White, Patriarchal Past

Mathematicians want to think their field is a meritocracy, but bias, harassment and exclusion persist

Juttu vaikuttaa sen verran tendenssimäiseltä, etten jaksa ruveta sitä analysoimaan kohta kohdalta, joten tuon vain linkin tänne tiedoksi mahdollisesti kiinnostuneille.

Wokeiluun yleisesti skeptisesti suhtautuvalla Jerry Coynella on oma näkemyksensä artikkelista:

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2021/08/29/scientific-american-and-math-go-full-woke/

Hän viittaa kommentissaan myös toiseen mielenkiintoiseen ilmiöön:  amerikkalainen matemaatikkojen yhdistys American Mathematical Society (AMS) kouluttaa vapaaehtoisia kokouksiinsa, joiden tehtävä on minimoida mielen pahoittamiset:

QuoteThe AMS is proud to participate in MathSafe, a program by and for the mathematical community to support a safe and welcoming environment at meetings. MathSafe volunteers are trained to help anyone at meetings who experiences harassment, discrimination, or other inappropriate behavior.

How the AMS uses MathSafe

The AMS requires all staff members working at our meetings and conferences to receive MathSafe training. We also welcome trained MathSafe volunteers from the community at any of our meetings and will provide them with identifying badges and AMS contacts when they're on site.

MathSafe volunteers:

- serve as point persons to connect people with help if they experience harassment or other improper behavior during a meeting

- serve as calm interveners if witnessing escalated behavior of attendees

- wear buttons to identify themselves throughout meetings - their collective presence will help remind us all to be welcoming and civil

http://www.ams.org/mathsafe/ams-mathsafe

Ehkäpä tulevaisuudessa tietellisten kokousten järjestäjät velvoitetaan nimeämään tietty määrä tällaisia mentaalisia turvahenkilöitä, aivan kuten nykyään yleisötilaisuuksissa pitää olla tietty määrä järjestysmiehiähenkilöitä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 30.08.2021, 12:24:07
Quote from: Siili on 30.08.2021, 12:02:21
Amerikkalainen (ainakin ennen) arvostettu yleistajuinen tiedelehti Scientific American julkaisi artikkelin, jossa arvostellaan matematiikan valkoisuutta ja patriarkaalisuutta:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/modern-mathematics-confronts-its-white-patriarchal-past/
Quote
Modern Mathematics Confronts Its White, Patriarchal Past

Mathematicians want to think their field is a meritocracy, but bias, harassment and exclusion persist

(...)

QuoteRacism, sexism and other forms of systematic oppression are not unique to mathematics, and they certainly are not new, yet many in the field still deny their existence. "One of the biggest challenges is how hard it can be to start a conversation" about the problem, Sawyer says, "because mathematicians are so convinced that math is the purest of all of the sciences." Yet statistics on the mathematics profession are difficult to ignore. In 2019 a New York Times profile of Edray Herber Goins, a Black mathematics professor at Pomona College, reported that "fewer than 1 percent of doctorates in math are awarded to African-Americans." A 2020 NSF survey revealed that out of a total of 2,012 doctorates awarded in mathematics and statistics in the U.S. in 2019, only 585 (29.1 percent) were awarded to women. That percentage is slightly lower than in 2010, when 29.4 percent of doctorates in those areas (467 out of 1,590) were awarded to women. (Because these numbers are grouped based on sex rather than gender, that survey did not report how many of those individuals identify as a gender other than male or female.)

Siinähän se taas tuli, täydellisen varmat todisteet rasismista ja sovinismista... Jostain kumman syystä unohtivat mainita aasialaisten osuuden.

"Because these numbers are grouped based on sex rather than gender, that survey did not report how many of those individuals identify as a gender other than male or female."

Priceless...

Heitetään tällainen mukaan:

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 30.08.2021, 13:16:04
Quote from: Vellamo on 29.08.2021, 23:24:04
Quote(...)

She said: 'It is always acceptable in our woke culture of 2021 to mercilessly attack black conservatives.

'They have 'betrayed' their leftist masters by daring to think for themselves, when they should be grateful.

'THAT is institutionalised/cultural racism. And it is everywhere.'

(...)

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Jutun kirjoittaja on tosin itsekin musta, mutta lieneekö tuolla hirveästi merkitystä. Kuinkakohan moni suomalainen muuten tuntee Larry Elderin nimen? Siis henkilön, josta voi tulla ensimmäinen musta Kalifornian kuvernööri (Kalifornia on kuitenkin aika iso peluri jopa globaalisti). Ja kuinkakohan moni suomalainen tuntisi tuon nimen, jos Elder olisi demokraatti, joka on mahdollisesti suistamassa valkoisen elitistisen republikaanin pois kuvernöörin pallilta... Isä merijalkaväen kersantti toisessa maailmansodassa, talonmies, myöhemmin kahvilanpitäjä.

Edit. Elder on itse asiassa tullut vastaan aiemminkin.

https://www.creators.com/read/larry-elder/08/17/the-shameful-blackout-of-thomas-sowell-and-williams (https://www.creators.com/read/larry-elder/08/17/the-shameful-blackout-of-thomas-sowell-and-williams)
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3209787.html#msg3209787 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3209787.html#msg3209787)

Viime vuoden haastattelu:

Larry Elder & Thomas Sowell FULL Interview on School Choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7JAp6qnA4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij7JAp6qnA4)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 01.09.2021, 14:47:12
^ Asiaan liittyen erään mustan konservatiivin kirjoitus.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/squires-heres-a-reminder-that-the-left-not-larry-elder-is-doing-the-bidding-of-white-supremacists (https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/squires-heres-a-reminder-that-the-left-not-larry-elder-is-doing-the-bidding-of-white-supremacists)

QuoteSquires: Here's a reminder that the left, not Larry Elder, is doing the bidding of white supremacists
Delano Squires
August 24, 2021

The L.A. Times article claiming Larry Elder is the "black face of white supremacy" is just the latest example of how the left tries to weaponize race to keep black conservatives in line.  (...)

The party that promotes itself as champions of inclusion, diversity, and tolerance has no problem spewing racial invective as long as black conservatives are the target. There have been multiple instances over the last year alone when the left's racism has been on public display. Women's March co-founder Tamika Mallory compared Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron to "sellout negroes" who sold their own people into slavery. She said this because Cameron declined to bring charges against the officers who shot and killed Breonna Taylor. Megachurch preacher Jamal Bryant invoked the legacy of Harriet Tubman when he called black Trump supporters at the Republican National Convention "slaves" who could be freed if they realized they were in bondage. One self-described radical feminist college professor claimed black men voted for Trump to replicate the patriarchy and status white men enjoy. And a failed Florida congressional candidate said "20% of black men voted for Trump because they hate black women."

It's not just black liberals who engage in this behavior. One white congressional candidate in California responded to a Candace Owens tweet about crime data with a picture of a Klan hood under the words "you may've dropped this." One white liberal journalist in the late 1980s likened Clarence Thomas, the left's most reviled black conservative, to "those chicken-eating preachers who gladly parroted the segregationists' line in exchange for a few crumbs from the white man's table."

All these examples prove one thing: Those on the left have no problem with racist verbal attacks. They just want to be the ones making them. The irony is that Larry Elder released a documentary last year entitled "Uncle Tom" that questioned the treatment of black conservatives by the liberal political establishment. The film noted that ad hominem racial attacks are a deterrent to other blacks who may be tempted to share nonconforming views publicly and demonstrated how accusing black conservatives of being self-hating sellouts keeps Democrats from having to defend their actual positions.

It's a lot easier to call a black conservative names than explain why Democrats oppose school choice — whether charter schools or voucher programs — even though they are extremely popular among black voters.

Accusing Larry Elder of being a tool of racist white Republicans for opposing efforts to defund the police is an easy way to dodge the fact that homicide is the leading cause of death for black males ages 15-24, something Black Lives Matter ignores unless the perpetrator is wearing a badge.

Claiming that black conservatives want to bring back Jim Crow also allows the left to stay silent on how its welfare policies and cultural norms have weakened the black family since the 1960s. (...)

Toinen kirjoitus samalta äijältä.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/squires-white-guilt-more-destructive-than-white-rage-robin-diangelos-new-book-unwittingly-makes-a-persuasive-case (https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/squires-white-guilt-more-destructive-than-white-rage-robin-diangelos-new-book-unwittingly-makes-a-persuasive-case)

QuoteSquires: White guilt more destructive than white rage? Robin DiAngelo's new book unwittingly makes a persuasive case
Delano Squires
August 31, 2021

I recently found myself doing something I never thought possible: agreeing with something Robin DiAngelo has to say about race.
Don't get me wrong: I reject the way she radicalizes common human behavior and think her brand of racial group guilt is toxic. Thankfully, her broken-clock moment — right twice a day — is right there on the cover of her new book, "Nice Racism." Its subtitle reads, "How Progressive White People Perpetuate Racial Harm."

On this one point, DiAngelo is absolutely correct, but for very different reasons from those she argues. Her definition of "harm" includes white people who smile too much at black people or claim to have black friends. I believe the feelings of guilt white liberals like DiAngelo carry because of America's complicated racial history motivates them to craft policy (e.g. 1960s welfare reform) and advance cultural norms (e.g. dismissing the importance of the nuclear family to social outcomes) that are far more destructive to the country in 2021 than the left's shape-shifting white supremacy boogeyman.

(...)

"White rage" is a currency in decline. White guilt is where every major institution in this country has had its cultural capital invested since the 1960s. That means it can do a lot more damage before it hits a wall of resistance. No sector of American life demonstrates this more clearly than K-12 schools. Traditional public, charter, and private schools are being bombarded on every side, from administration to instruction, with demands to capitulate to Ibram Kendi-syle anti-racism and his hazy notions of equity.

That has resulted in the governor of Oregon eliminating reading and math proficiency graduation standards in order to aid Oregon's "Black, Latino, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color." She is not the only one. Schools and districts across the country have changed admission criteria into elite schools solely for the purpose of achieving a particular racial makeup. Funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was used to create a curriculum that claimed making students show their work in math class is a function of white supremacy.

If white guilt in the classroom threatens American minds, its counterpart on the streets threatens American lives. Dozens of mayors, governors, and district attorneys ignored riots, looting, statues being torn down, and crime spikes in cities across the country in the name of racial justice last year. They think that the primary role black people play in the criminal justice system is as victims of systemic racism, so they undermine their local law enforcement leaders and police officers.

When the police inevitably change their behavior to adjust to social and political pressure, crime goes up. The cruel irony is that it always goes up in the very neighborhoods guilty white liberals claim they want to help, not the wealthy ones where decision-makers actually live. The truth is people like Mayor Bill de Blasio would never respond to nightly shootings and robberies in Robert De Niro's neighborhood the way he does in low-income communities in Brooklyn.

One of the worst aspects of white guilt is the effect it has on many black people, some of whom speak about their life in America today as if melanated skin is a congenital defect. Sometimes I wonder how the benefactors of the emancipation, Reconstruction, and civil rights generations came to gain so much with respect to rights and resources yet lose so much of our self-respect. How did a generation of black leaders come to see "dismantling white supremacy" as a more urgent need than rebuilding the black family? How did black civil rights lawyers go from fighting against school segregation in 1951 to celebrating the elimination of "master bedroom" from real estate listings in 2021? What would make the NAACP think that getting white Hollywood celebrities to take responsibility for racism is a more pressing cultural concern than getting black hip-hop artists to take responsibility for lyrics that promote death and destruction?

The answer is simple. The past 60 years have seen the guilt of white liberals transform both public policy and American cultural norms. One by-product of these changes is the symbiotic relationship that has developed between white liberals seeking forgiveness and absolution for offenses they didn't personally commit and black liberals seeking empathy and affirmation for injustices they didn't personally suffer.

Our entire country's ruling class is caught between a black rock and a white hard place. On one hand we have Ibram Kendi claiming that racist policy is the sole cause of disparities in outcomes between different ethnic groups. On the other is Robin DiAngelo claiming that America would be a much better place if white people stopped denying their racist ideas and beliefs. Both create work that can tear down and divide but never build up and unify.

(...)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 03.09.2021, 02:21:33
Aika samoilla linjoilla mennään, mitä Sowell on paukuttanut parikymmentä vuotta, mutta ihan hyvä kirjoitus kuitenkin.

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QuoteHistorical Racism Is Not the Singular Cause of Racial Disparity
Samuel Kronen
17 Jul 2021


Even before the crescendo of Black Lives Matter last summer, the operative view among progressives was that historical racism is the overriding cause of racial disparities between black and white Americans today. The progressive ethos on race is neatly conveyed by the novelist William Faulkner's remark: "The past is never dead. It's not even past." If the wide socio-economic gaps between whites and blacks in terms of income, wealth, health, incarceration, and education outcomes speak to the enduring legacy of slavery and segregation, large-scale efforts to improve the conditions of the country without regard for race seem insufficient to many. First, Americans must come to terms with the moral and political implications of living in a country that oppressed an entire class of citizens for hundreds of years on the arbitrary basis of ancestry, while flaunting democratic ideals of freedom and equality it was failing to uphold. Those who respond by pointing to the decline of anti-black racism since the civil rights movement or the subsequent success of other minority groups in the country are open to the charge of historical denialism or worse, and then swiftly consigned to the wrong side of history.

(...)

But, while this account is not inaccurate or without import, it has been profoundly influenced by the deep impulse in American culture to make moral meaning out of historical racism—determining which facts merit selection and which ones don't. The effect is to render a moral analysis of history as though it were a causal analysis of the present. But morality is not causation. Though often equated in prevailing race discourse, the moral gravity of historical racism and the cause of present racial disparities are not the same thing. More crucially, the belief that historical racism is the sole cause of current outcomes compels a backward-looking stance more concerned with reversing past injustices than with addressing the problems of the present. Meanwhile, crucial facts are left out of the narrative that would otherwise throw its underlying vision into doubt.

(...)

But other data point in a different direction. In their magnum opus, America in Black and White: One Nation, Indivisible, Abigail and Stephan Thermstrom show that, between 1940 and 1960, the percentage of black families with income below the poverty level was almost cut in half, from 87 percent to 47 percent. In key skilled trades, the income of blacks relative to whites more than doubled between 1936 and 1959,1 while black income rose absolutely and relative to white income across the board from 1939 to 1960.2 The rise of blacks into professional and other high-level occupations was greater during the years preceding the civil rights movement than in the years afterwards,3 and blacks began closing the gap between themselves and whites in years of schooling over the same period.4

While some of this can be attributed to broader structural forces in the economy, it's significant that blacks were moving ahead along vital socio-economic metrics over a period that supposedly set them back. Coates, meanwhile, writes that discriminatory laws "reached their apex in the mid-20th century when the federal government—through housing policies—engineered the wealth gap." But this doesn't gel with the black economic and social progress during the post-war years. Significantly, the fact that black Americans were making progress over a period of rampant overt racism contradicts the assumption that racial disparity reflects the scale of bias in society.

(...)

But doesn't the fact that blacks were economically disadvantaged when the maps were drawn speak to the broader scope of racism in our history? Yes and no. Again, drawing causal conclusions from a moral interpretation of history invariably drowns out other relevant facts. Beginning in 1916, when 90 percent of black Americans lived in the south, six million southern blacks migrated to northern cities. They brought a very different way of life suited to an agricultural environment and unacquainted with big city norms. Before then, racial barriers in northern cities were beginning to dissipate, with the descendants of free blacks in the north often living side by side with whites and attending integrated schools. For instance, as early as 1860, no neighborhood in Detroit was even 50 percent black. In Michigan, blacks were being elected to public office as early as the 1890s by a predominantly white electorate.6 In 1899, W.E.B. Du Bois commented on the "growing liberal spirit toward the Negro in Philedelphia" in which "the community was disposed ... to soften the harshness of race prejudice."

This growing liberal spirit began to wane, however, when millions of black southerners arrived, leading white majorities in those cities to erect racial barriers against blacks in general. This development reflected a common historical pattern, in which ethnically similar groups with different cultures are punished for the mass influx of the less developed group, such as the retrogression in American attitudes toward Jews when millions of eastern European Jews immigrated to the US after German Jews had already been living there for generations. In fact, the term "kike" was invented by German Jews as an epithet against their Eastern European counterparts, and major efforts were made to acculturate the incomers in order to prevent the arousal of anti-Jewish sentiment.7 Du Bois expressed a similar sentiment regarding blacks:

    Yet it has everywhere been manifest in the long run that while a part of the negroes were native-born and trained in the culture of the city, the others were immigrants largely ignorant and unused to city life. ... Thus the history of the negro in Northern cities is the history of the rise of a small group by accretion from without, but at the same time periodically overwhelmed by them and compelled to start over again when once the material has been assimilated.

It would be a huge coincidence if the deterioration in race relations in the 20th century and the hardening of racial restrictions occurred at the exact moment that millions of southern blacks came north. What's more, many of these developments correlated with different periods of migration, such as the later migrations and retrogressions in San Francisco, Berkeley, and Oakland.

None of which is to excuse the racist attitudes of northern whites, nor to erase the hopes and struggles of those fleeing the south. But it wasn't blacks alone who were discriminated against. The first racially targeted zoning laws go back to the 19th century against the Chinese, and restrictive deed covenants of the 20th century often excluded Irish, Japanese, and other recent immigrants—only specifically excluding those outside the "Caucausian race." In his essay "Black Rednecks and White Liberals," Thomas Sowell notes that a 1951 survey conducted in Detroit found that white southerners living in the city were considered "undesirable" by 21 percent of those surveyed, compared to 13 percent who ranked blacks the same way. (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3209787.html#msg3209787 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3209787.html#msg3209787)) When poor whites from the south moved north for work, "occasionally a white southerner would find that a flat or a furnished room had 'just been rented' when the landlord heard his southern accent." In short, blacks weren't the only group subjected to residential segregation, but their visible racial identity made them an easier target. The history of blacks in the north provides a vital lesson for race relations today: Racial differences can be more or less meaningful under different cultural conditions.

*     *     *

More illustrative of the prevailing view of racial history and its blindspots than what it highlights, however, is what it omits. For instance, one would never guess, upon hearing this account, that the legislative victories of the civil rights movement were followed by a massive wave of reparational, race-conscious policies introduced as part of President Johnson's War on Poverty and Great Society initiatives. ("I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for 200 years") These spent an estimated 20 trillion dollars on programs geared to ameliorate "poverty and racial injustice." A few examples include the Food Stamp Act of 1964, the Child Nutrition Act of 1966, the Social Security Amendments of 1965, the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965, the Social Security Amendments of 1962, and the Economic Opportunity Act of 1964.

The War on Poverty was based on the notion that black poverty was unique because of historical racism, just as activists claim today. But the desired results were not forthcoming. Violence, single households, joblessness, welfare dependency, teen pregnancy, drug addiction, and all of the ills we associate with the urban ghettos today were accelerated in the late 60s, whether or not those policies were a cause of the decline or just an ineffective remedy. So, much of what is called for by modern anti-racist activists has already been tried and failed. And yet it is critics of such policies that are accused of not knowing their history.

The failure to grapple with countervailing facts has implications in our own time. Urban renewal policies were among the most damaging to black communities—leveling working class neighborhoods and concentrating the poorest section of the black population into dystopian high rises with incentives that dissuaded upward mobility on penalty of eviction. But even these policies were informed by public housing schemes designed by a progressive activist named Catherine Bauer (referred to affectionately by a friend as "Communist Catherine") under anti-poverty, anti-racist principles that sought to abolish private ownership and establish a workers' paradise. These were rolled out under the civil rights-friendly President Truman. The aftermath was disturbingly documented in this multi-part 1982 PBS documentary on Chicago's Robert Taylor Homes project (the first video is mislabeled "Cabrini Green Public Housing Projects" for some reason, another project closer to the heart of the city). Some of the most destructive racial policies were framed in progressive terms, and can't be attributed to racism.

Why don't we hear about this? Much of what doesn't make sense about how we discuss race in America is a holdover from the 1960s, when the country finally accepted responsibility for its brutal history. It's understandable that America's acknowledgment of its own participation in evil would leave a moral stain on the national culture, but the stigma of collective racial guilt has taken on a life of its own. For reasons that are perfectly understandable in the context of history, much of our racial discourse is animated by the deep desire among many whites to avoid being seen as racist against blacks and the deep desire of many blacks to avoid being seen as less than whites. Using racism as an all-purpose explanation for disparity satisfies both sensibilities.

But it comes at a cost. The implicit assumption behind the idea that racism lies behind every disparity is that, if it turns out white racism weren't the culprit, then blacks themselves must be at fault. In this false dichotomy, either white people or black people are to blame for racial disparities, as though relative statistical disparities between groups demand moral explanation. But this is backwards. Disparities exist everywhere that different groups exist, regardless of institutional bias. To take one example among thousands, Americans of Indian descent have an income of over five times that of Americans of Iraqi descent, despite belonging to the same race. But, above all, disparity discourse gives the false impression that the success of one group is contingent on the failure of another. The complex tangle of historical, demographic, socio-economic, geographic, and cultural forces behind white-black disparities can't be captured by a moral melodrama of collective guilt and victimization.

*     *     *

Even if disparities between white and black Americans were a consequence of historical racism, contrary to everything I've written so far, it still wouldn't mean that race-conscious anti-racism is the appropriate response. Consider the racial wealth gap. According to an analysis by the Brookings Institute, the net worth of a typical white American family ($171,000) is nearly 10 times greater than that of the typical black American family ($17,150), as of 2016. "Perhaps no statistic better illustrates the enduring legacy of our country's shameful history of treating black people as sub-citizens, sub-Americans, and sub-humans," Coates laments, "than the wealth gap."

That the racial wealth gap elicits opprobrium is unsurprising. While income is accrued from year to year, wealth—assets and investments minus debt—is accrued from generation to generation, compounds across time, and correlates with virtually every metric of human flourishing: longevity, safety, health, happiness, freedom. It is the essential modern bulwark against unexpected catastrophe—job loss, illness, death of a breadwinner. Worse, the relative wealth gap between whites and blacks has actually increased since the 1960s. "The difference between the lived experience of black Americans and white Americans when it comes to wealth," writes Nikole Hannah-Jones in a long essay for New York Times Magazine, "can be described as nothing other than a chasm."

But the wealth gap perfectly illustrates the problem with using statistical disparities to diagnose and address social issues. An analysis by the left-leaning People's Policy Project reflects just one of the problems with what Coleman Hughes had called the disparity fallacy by uncovering an element of the racial wealth gap that's gone unremarked upon in most mainstream discourse—almost all of it is coming from the top. The gap between the wealthiest 10 percent of the white population and the wealthiest 10 percent of the black population accounts for 77.5 percent of the total wealth gap. And although the racial wealth gap exists to some degree across class lines, if we were to eliminate the disparity between the bottom 50 percent of blacks and whites in terms of wealth, a full 97 percent of the total gap would remain. Only three percent of the racial wealth gap is explained by the disparity between the poorer half of each population, while the vast majority of the gap is explained by the disparity between the top 10 percent of the wealthiest white and black Americans in the population.

Perhaps some of this gap can be attributed to historical or present discrimination, but most Americans are not particularly wealthy. As Adolph Reed Jr. (Toure's father, as it happens) notes in his essay with Walter Benn Michaels entitled "The Trouble with Disparity," if the racial wealth gap were to disappear tomorrow, it would hardly affect the overall wealth gap between the rich and the poor.

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Ultimately, debates about the nature of racial inequality arise from a conflict of visions over the nature of human society and life itself. In a paper for the Manhattan Institute, Brown economist Glenn Loury articulates two different causal narratives around the persistence of racial disparity—a bias narrative and a development narrative. The bias narrative is concerned with discrimination against historically disadvantaged groups within the structures of society, and the development narrative is concerned with the underlying set of skills, habits, interests, and values conducive to success that develop in childhood within the family and community before discrimination has a chance to inhibit opportunity. (...)

There is a rich history of American ethnic groups overcoming discrimination, poverty, and ghettoization to rise to or above the level of the majority, from Italian Americans to Jewish Americans and, increasingly, Asian and Hispanic Americans. Unless we are willing to accept the racist idea that, to paraphrase John McWhorter, black Americans are the only group in human history who can't succeed under anything less than ideal conditions, there is no reason to believe the ultimate story of black Americans will be any different from other successful ethnic groups. Indeed, proponents of the development narrative have a much less fixed vision of race—they assume that blacks can and will join the majority and their unique cultural heritage will increasingly become the cultural legacy of the United States itself, as we've seen with other groups. This is why the development narrative weighs progress in terms of how little meaning we give to race in everyday American life—whether quantified by rates of intermarriage, the temperature of race discourse, or the political diversity within minority groups—rather than in exclusive terms of socio-economic outcomes.

It seems that we've arrived at a crossroads in American race relations. The popular vision of race in America seems to be incapable of breaking the gridlock that places the fate of black Americans in the hands of white society and then condemns that society to the wasteland of history. An alternative vision, while there are some encouraging signs, has yet to materialize. But history is not destiny. Formerly marginal groups are fast joining the ranks of mainstream American culture, regardless of color. While progressives lament the "white adjacency" of Asian and Hispanic Americans, those very groups are rapidly melting into a new majority, while black Americans are urged to retreat into ethnic enclaves and treat the United States as a hostile territory. My fear is that black Americans are going to be once again left behind, not because of racism, but because of the use of race for moral and political power and the attendant cultural need to revive a history that is steadily fading from our world.

https://quillette.com/2021/07/17/historical-racism-is-not-the-singular-cause-of-racial-disparity/ (https://quillette.com/2021/07/17/historical-racism-is-not-the-singular-cause-of-racial-disparity/)

"if the racial wealth gap were to disappear tomorrow, it would hardly affect the overall wealth gap between the rich and the poor"

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 03.09.2021, 21:44:42
Kanadalainen alkuperäiskansojen asiaa ajava aktivisti tri ManyGuns (tai manyguns) aikoo jatkossa välttää isojen kirjaimien käyttöä.  En täysin ymmärtänyt miksi, mutta ilmeisesti sillä on jotain tekemistä niiden hierarkiaa ylläpitävästä luonteesta.

Quotethe goal of equity, diversity and inclusion of all people is synonymous with the interests of Indigenous people. we support and expand the goal of equality and inclusion to all forms of life and all people. we join leaders like e. e. cummings, bell hooks, and peter kulchyski, who reject the symbols of hierarchy wherever they are found and do not use capital letters except to acknowledge the Indigenous struggle for recognition.

Taustaksi yliopiston uutinen hänen virkanimityksestään:

QuoteManyGuns brings to this role extensive knowledge, experience and education. A Blackfoot woman, she was born on the Tsuut'ina Nation and registered at Siksika. She is an elder for the Buffalo Women's Society and part of the Beaver Bundle Society. Traditional knowledge informs her respect for all life and all thoughts.

ManyGuns has a Bachelor of Arts from St. Thomas University, a Master's from Carleton University, a law degree from University of Ottawa and a doctorate from Trent University. Her academic papers and projects are always on Indigenous subjects and informed by traditional knowledge.

https://www.mtroyal.ca/AboutMountRoyal/MediaRoom/News/2021/04/mru-names-linda-manyguns-associate-vice-president-indigenization-decolonization.htm

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.09.2021, 00:05:34
Mielestäni tämä on aika hyvä esimerkki siitä, millaisiksi pseudotodellisuudessa eläviksi psykopaateiksi wokeismi muuttaa ihmiset. Greenwald oli aiemmin, kun Chelsea ex. Bradley Manning oli oikeasti pulassa, hänen suurin ja lähes ainoa tukijansa. Keräsi rahaa hänelle, lahjoitti itse kypätonnin, vieraili vankilassa, puhui kymmeniä, ellei satoja tunteja hänen kanssaan puhelimessa, kun Manning hautoi vankilassa eristyksessä itsemurha-ajatuksia. Siis silloin kun kaikki muut olivat hylänneet Manningin.  Ja alla on se, miten woke-Manning kiittää kaikesta (sen jälkeen kun ei ole kolmeen vuoteen pitänyt käytännössä mitään yhteyttä Greenwaldiin). Koska Greenwald ei vain suostu lopettamaan "ongelmallista" käyttäytymistään... Siis sitä samaa käyttäytymistä, mitä Greenwald on luultavasti harjoittanut koko aikuisikänsä. Mutta kun ei näille wokstereille merkkaa mikään mitään paitsi se että noudatetaan "aatetta".

Kun ihan oikeasti loppuu sanat kesken, kun yrittää kuvailla näitä tyyppejä, mutta kuten Lindsay on kirjoittanut: Nämä eivät ole normaaleja ihmisiä. Enkä tässä tarkoita Manningin transuilua.  Mutta hei, 35t tykkäystä, moraalisäteilypisteitä ropisee muilta sekopäiltä. Taas vähän aikaa pärjää.

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QuoteChelsea E. Manning@xychelsea

glenn greenwald, i don't have $10,000 right now but if i get it i want to send it back to you from a donation you once did. i can't deal with this anymore. im terrified of you and everything you do. you're greedy, unprincipled, and im embarrassed for ever considering you a friend

Chelsea E. Manning@xychelsea

last night during the floods i decided that im no longer going to be afraid of saying what's on my mind anymore or taking a stand from the people that i once considered allies but who have chosen to bash, harass, humiliate, intimidate, and lie to get ahead

Chelsea E. Manning@xychelsea

to those he has hurt im sorry i didn't say anything I was scared and that's my fault

Unfuckingbelievable.

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Ja takuuvarma olen muuten siitä, Manning ei ikinä maksa takaisin tuota kypätonnia.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.09.2021, 22:11:14
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https://bulletin.nu/social-justice-studies-in-the-university-why-did-they-emerge-despite-being-anti-scientific (https://bulletin.nu/social-justice-studies-in-the-university-why-did-they-emerge-despite-being-anti-scientific)

QuoteSocial Justice studies in the university: Why did they emerge despite being anti-scientific?

Critical Race Theory, Fat Studies, and Queer Theory are examples of Social Justice studies that have gained influence in the academical world. Yet, most of it is non-scientific or in some cases anti-scientific, according to scholars Nicolai J Foss and Torsten Skov who in this essay offers a number of hypotheses about this, as they say, puzzling development.
11 jul 2021 16:19

What is often called Social Justice Studies ("SJS") are influential in a number of research fields in social science and the humanities, as well as making their influence felt in STEM fields. However, much of SJS is plainly non-scientific, and in some cases even anti-scientific. So, why have they emerged and become influential?

(...)

However, it is well known that the process doesn't work perfectly and that errors can persist for a long time. Sometimes theories may be rejected that later turn out to be true (e.g., Pasteurization or the notion that stomach ulcers are caused by bacteria), and accepted theories turn out to be false (too many to list!). The last two decades have witnessed one "replication crisis" after the other, as discipline after discipline, including psychology, medicine, and economics failed to replicate a very large percentage of often central and seemingly well-established findings. This is problematic as replication is seen as a cornerstone of science.

(...)

Specifically, we refer to fields such as Gender Studies, Postcolonial Studies, Critical Race Theory, Fat Studies, and Queer Theory. We do not rule out that some activities within these fields could qualify as scientific, but we do claim that these areas are in large part un-scientific or even anti-scientific.

(...)

Much public attention has more recently been dedicated to the "Sokal Squared" affair that was initiated when Peter Boghossian, James A. Lindsay, and Helen Pluckrose in 2017 and 2018 managed to get a number of bogus papers published. These included "Human Reaction to Rape Culture and Queer Performativity at Urban Dog Parks in Portland, Oregon," ostensibly a study of canine rape culture in a Portland dog park!

These incidents are important and have had impact because they show that research that is entirely unfounded is publishable in certain fields.

That the authors-hoaxers managed to do this repeatedly and across different learned journals suggests that we are not talking about the occasional, isolated error. Rather, we are dealing with communities and journals that systematically allow non-science to be published. The question is how this state of affairs is possible. Existing accounts of the intellectual origins of SJS (e.g., Pluckrose and Lindsay' Cynical Theories) fail to explain this.

(...)

The second half of the 20th century witnessed a steady decline of overtly expressed racism and sexism in American society, partly driven by civil rights movements and women's liberation movements. Egalitarian, tolerant and "liberal" beliefs and attitudes were increasingly expressed in value surveys. And yet, statistics about income, health, education etc. for people of color did not show grand improvements, and gender statistics still showed wide disparities.

The fight for social justice looked like it had been won. But, the reality was different if you scratched the surface. In fact, this is exactly how a number of activist scholars themselves see it (e.g., Dasgupta, Dovidio and Gaertner, Swim et al.). Declaring victory in the midst of what seemed to be a failure was not an option. Thus, an explanation for the disconnect between egalitarian attitudes and material inequality had to be found.

(...)

The theory of unconscious biases filled a gap. And perhaps not only a gap in the understanding of equality but also a gap left after the declining belief in the unconscious as understood by psychoanalysis, as well as a religious gap left by the declining influence of the protestant churches in the USA. The unconscious had been vacated by psychoanalysis and the religious had been vacated by the church; thus, both were available for exploitation by an invalid "scientific" theory. A perfect storm.

In parallel with the advent of unconscious explanations for social inequalities, the idea of equality itself also made a transition. The focus on equality of opportunities for all, was gradually replaced by focus on equality of outcome – a logical development in view of formal equality being largely obtained but material equality lacking.

At first, the argument was made that in practical terms inequality of outcome could be taken as a sign of lacking equality of opportunity. For example, Anne Phillips argued that "equality of outcome .... has to be taken as a key measure of equality of opportunity" in her paper in defense of equality of outcome).

(...)

The basic point we want to make with the above remarks is that scientific rationality and integrity was in deficit in the theories about unconscious bias and discrimination pertaining to race and gender that became dominant after year 2000. This paved the way for other SJS that lacked these same properties, in the fields of postcolonial studies, fat studies, queer theory, as well as a wealth of intersectional studies that combine these with feminist theory and antiracism.

(...)

At the same time the increasing politicization of universities in the form of stepping up the engagement with the surrounding society is a factor working towards shielding SJS. Increasingly, universities have adopted Third Missions, that is, "the economic and social mission of the university and its contribution to communities and territories." Many universities have built layers of middle managers who deal with external parties (accreditors, donors, funding bodies), need to be kept busy, often sympathize with SJS ideas, and may have some discretion over decisions.

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These are the departments that are most likely to be homes to scholars who work from a SJS perspective. The result is that such scholars may get access to funding resources, become important to carrying out third mission activities, and may become institutionally entrenched.

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This entails keeping frictions and conflict at a reasonably low level. Accepting low-quality research may, in the eyes of university management, sometimes be an acceptable cost of maintaining the internal truce. This may take the form of accepting that evaluation is carried out in a less effective manner.

(...)

The fact that research contributions such as those in the Sokal Hoax and the Sokal Squared Affair that we mentioned above get published shows that errors happen. Moreover these were not flukes; the scholars who organized the Sokal Squared Hoax were able to repeatedly place non-scientific papers in ostensibly learned journals. This suggests that something is systematically wrong on the evaluation side.

(...)

But because evaluation processes and their organizational and institutional embodiments can lead separate lives, they may also develop differently and have very different standards. We see SJS scholars as clearly forming communities with their own evaluation hierarchies—but, also and very importantly, their own evaluation criteria.

These criteria are different from those of scientific criteria.
In particular, the identities, or "positions," of scholars may matter and become an independent criterion for acceptance. Scholars from universities that are associated with, for example, a colonial past or just some "power" position may be disregarded because of their affiliation.

This is extremely problematic because it means that the self-regulatory mechanisms of science—the inbuilt error correction of critique—is basically sabotaged. Non-science may proliferate, seep into the surrounding society, and begin to exert a problematic influence.

The Tyranny of the Intolerant Minority and the Costs of Opposition

Why aren't these developments resisted from within academia?

First, they are an insult to scholars who work hard to produce what they see as valid claims to knowledge.

Second, they fly in the face of the ethos of most practicing scientists who don't endorse an "anything goes"-attitude.

Third, they potentially harm the reputations of universities and scientific fields.

Fourth, taxpayers may well feel that their hard-earned tax money is wasted.

Fifth, the spread of non-scientific ideas in society may cause harm. In other words, many people are negatively affected by the proliferation of SJS. Why don't they band up and put an end to it?

The problem here is one of the cost of collective action and of highly skewed incentives. SJS scholars may be seen as small, well-organized special interest groups. They directly appropriate the benefits of their activities (publications, tenure, influence in the university). So, their costs and benefits are directly linked. This is different in the case of their opponents.

(...)

The costs to individuals of engaging with SJS may be high.
This is not just a matter of spending time getting acquainted with SJS. It is also a matter of criticism potentially resulting in deplatforming, organized attacks on social media, complaints to university administrators, and other intimidation tactics.

In turn, the perceived costs to "woke" scholar-activists of engaging in such activities may be low because they feel they are acting in the interest of a noble cause and because their unity of purpose makes organizing to fight critics a low-cost activity. By the same token, because of the diversity of the groups that are harmed by grievance studies it is costly to organize collective action.

All these factors imply that opposition to SJS is likely to be weak and disorganized.

The Way Forward

The endeavor to weed out non-science from the university can easily be framed by its opponents as a political crusade against legitimate political positions. It is important to avoid this framing by emphasizing that this is about scientific integrity, not about political positions.

We submit that most (if not all) of what goes on in SJS is non-scientific if not anti-scientific. A university that would start looking at such activities would have to evaluate each activity and researcher on their specific merits, lest well-conducted research be deemed invalid.

Serious researchers who engage in real science should feel secure no matter their field of research and their political stance. Luckily, evaluation of individual researchers is a routine at universities already. Some evaluation criteria will have to be added to identify activities that deserve no merit. Here are some suggestions:

    Many publications profess to be looking at some phenomenon in the world "through the lens of" queer theory, or whiteness studies, or similar. This is a sure sign of the authors subsuming the observation of reality totally under a theory that is already assumed to be true. Since the theory is not falsifiable and an interpretation of reality can always be established according to theory, the result is often a political statement about social injustice and how it should be remedied.

    Scholars who do nothing but produce such political statements pump up their CVs with non-scientific publications, jamming the scientific signaling process, fill positions at universities (which are then not available for more qualified researchers), and, what is worse, set a precedent for producing non-science or even anti-science there. This must be resisted. We are aware that taking institutional action here will potentially amount to closing research areas with obvious employment consequences for those who are active in such areas. This will cause resistance and cries of attacks on academic freedom. However, "academic freedom" may not include engaging in non- or anti-scientific activities as the main way of fulfilling one's research duties. Besides, concern for status of universities and science must weigh heavily here.

    Seeing the world through the above lenses may produce the types of output parodied by the paper about dog rape culture. Like the parody paper, they are basically products of sheer phantasy and imagination. They are at least partially intelligible and make sense provided that one accepts the lens through which everything is seen. However, since the underlying theory is neither modified nor falsified by observation and observation is distorted, the activity contributes nothing to science.

    In the same realm are publications which are beginning to appear in allegedly scholarly journals of literary texts in the form of prose and poetry. Such literature may be a valuable source of insights into human life, but they should be published in literary journals and magazine. Scholars whose only activity is to produce such texts of phantasy and imagination are not well placed in the universities.

    Fanciful theories that build ever more complex extensions on the core theories of the SJS, are not likely to be more valid than the core theories and can be weeded out.

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    Finally, it is necessary to institutionalize critical perspectives on SJS. Thus, university managers need to ensure that evaluation, promotion committees, etc. are not just staffed by representatives of SJS. This can be implemented as a general university-wide rule that all panels and committees should be multidisciplinary.

Nicolai J Foss has a M.Sc. in economics (1989) and a Phd in management research (1993). He is a Professor of Strategy at the Copenhagen Business School. Foss has published widely on management, economics, and theory of science issues. He is a Clarivate Highly Cited Scholar.

Torsten Skov is MD (1981) and has a bachelor degree in philosophy. He earned his PhD in cancer epidemiology in 1993, and did research in occupation medicine for some years, including survey methods and questionnaire validation. Then he switched to the life science industry where he spent the last 25 years in clinical development positions.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 06.09.2021, 08:46:13
Oregonin osavaltio on päättänyt, että kolmen vuoden ajan kaikki koulunsa (High School) päättäneet saavat päästötodistuksen, riippumatta opintosuorituksista:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9879959/Oregon-scraps-requirement-high-school-students-prove-proficiency-math-reading-writing.html

Päätöksen kannattajat perustelevat kantaansa CSJ-jargonilla:

QuoteEducation non-profit Foundations for a Better Oregon says the law opens the door for more 'equitable' graduation requirements.

'With SB 744, Oregon can ensure high school diplomas are rigorous, relevant, and truly reflect what every student needs to thrive in the 21st century,' the group said in a statement.

'Inclusive and equitable review of graduation and proficiency requirements, when guided by data and grounded in a commitment to every student's success, will promote shared accountability and foster a more just Oregon.'  'With SB 744, Oregon can ensure high school diplomas are rigorous, relevant, and truly reflect what every student needs to thrive in the 21st century,' the group said in a statement.

Eli jatkossa kukaan ei pahoita mieltään puuttuvasta päästötodistuksesta, koska kaikki saavat sen, vaikka eivät osaisi lukea tai laskea.  Toivottavasti päästötodistuksessa on edes arvosanat, joilla paremmin menestyneet voivat osoittaa, että tiedot ja taidot ovat hyvällä tasolla. 
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.09.2021, 01:45:03
Quote from: Siili on 06.09.2021, 08:46:13
(...) Toivottavasti päästötodistuksessa on edes arvosanat, joilla paremmin menestyneet voivat osoittaa, että tiedot ja taidot ovat hyvällä tasolla.

Tuskin on, koska kyseessä kuitenkin on valkoisen patriarkaatin rakentama sortava järjestelmä.

Oikeastaan piti kirjoitella tästä:

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Kyseessä on twiittiketju, kannattaa käydä lukaisemassa läpi.

QuoteAll people needed an education by reading family histories that focused on bitterness, hatred, and misery.

Woken menestysresepti.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.09.2021, 18:19:42
Jahas, Boghossianilla tuli mitta täyteen. Muistakaa nyt kuitenkin taas, että se totalitaristinen, muiden ihmisten ideologioita halveksiva, varjoissa väijyvä, aina nouseva äärioikeisto on se todellinen uhka länsimaiselle sivistykselle.

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QuoteMy University Sacrificed Ideas for Ideology. So Today I Quit.
The more I spoke out against the illiberalism that has swallowed Portland State University, the more retaliation I faced.
Peter Boghossian


(...)

I never once believed —  nor do I now —  that the purpose of instruction was to lead my students to a particular conclusion. Rather, I sought to create the conditions for rigorous thought; to help them gain the tools to hunt and furrow for their own conclusions. This is why I became a teacher and why I love teaching.

But brick by brick, the university has made this kind of intellectual exploration impossible. It has transformed a bastion of free inquiry into a Social Justice factory whose only inputs were race, gender, and victimhood and whose only outputs were grievance and division.

Students at Portland State are not being taught to think. Rather, they are being trained to mimic the moral certainty of ideologues. Faculty and administrators have abdicated the university's truth-seeking mission and instead drive intolerance of divergent beliefs and opinions. This has created a culture of offense where students are now afraid to speak openly and honestly.

I noticed signs of the illiberalism that has now fully swallowed the academy quite early during my time at Portland State. I witnessed students refusing to engage with different points of view.  Questions from faculty at diversity trainings that challenged approved narratives were instantly dismissed. Those who asked for evidence to justify new institutional policies were accused of microaggressions. And professors were accused of bigotry for assigning canonical texts written by philosophers who happened to have been European and male. 

At first, I didn't realize how systemic this was and I believed I could question this new culture. So I began asking questions. What is the evidence that trigger warnings and safe spaces contribute to student learning? Why should racial consciousness be the lens through which we view our role as educators? How did we decide that "cultural appropriation" is immoral?

Unlike my colleagues, I asked these questions out loud and in public.

(...)

The more I spoke out about these issues, the more retaliation I faced.

(...)

Not only was there no apology for the false accusations, but the investigator also told me that in the future I was not allowed to render my opinion about "protected classes" or teach in such a way that my opinion about protected classes could be known — a bizarre conclusion to absurd charges. Universities can enforce ideological conformity just through the threat of these investigations.

I eventually became convinced that corrupted bodies of scholarship were responsible for justifying radical departures from the traditional role of liberal arts schools and basic civility on campus. There was an urgent need to demonstrate that morally fashionable papers — no matter how absurd — could be published. I believed then that if I exposed the theoretical flaws of this body of literature, I could help the university community avoid building edifices on such shaky ground.

So, in 2017, I co-published an intentionally garbled peer-reviewed paper that took aim at the new orthodoxy. Its title: "The Conceptual Penis as a Social Construct." (...)

Shortly thereafter, swastikas in the bathroom with my name under them began appearing in two bathrooms near the philosophy department. They also occasionally showed up on my office door, in one instance accompanied by bags of feces. Our university remained silent. When it acted, it was against me, not the perpetrators.

I continued to believe, perhaps naively, that if I exposed the flawed thinking on which Portland State's new values were based, I could shake the university from its madness. In 2018 I co-published a series of absurd or morally repugnant peer-reviewed articles in journals that focused on issues of race and gender. In one of them we argued that there was an epidemic of dog rape at dog parks and proposed that we leash men the way we leash dogs. Our purpose was to show that certain kinds of "scholarship" are based not on finding truth but on advancing social grievances. This worldview is not scientific, and it is not rigorous.

Administrators and faculty were so angered by the papers that they published an anonymous piece in the student paper and Portland State filed formal charges against me. Their accusation? "Research misconduct" based on the absurd premise that the journal editors who accepted our intentionally deranged articles were "human subjects." I was found guilty of not receiving approval to experiment on human subjects.

Meanwhile, ideological intolerance continued to grow at Portland State. In March 2018, a tenured professor disrupted a public discussion I was holding with author Christina Hoff Sommers and evolutionary biologists Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying. In June 2018, someone triggered the fire alarm during my conversation with popular cultural critic Carl Benjamin. In October 2018, an activist pulled out the speaker wires to interrupt a panel with former Google engineer James Damore. The university did nothing to stop or address this behavior. No one was punished or disciplined.

For me, the years that followed were marked by continued harassment. I'd find flyers around campus of me with a Pinocchio nose. I was spit on and threatened by passersby while walking to class. I was informed by students that my colleagues were telling them to avoid my classes. And, of course, I was subjected to more investigation.

(...)

Portland State University has failed in fulfilling this duty. In doing so it has failed not only its students but the public that supports it. While I am grateful for the opportunity to have taught at Portland State for over a decade, it has become clear to me that this institution is no place for people who intend to think freely and explore ideas.

(...)

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/my-university-sacrificed-ideas-for? (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/my-university-sacrificed-ideas-for?)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 09.09.2021, 01:48:07
Sattui silmiin eräs transublogi. Blogin pitäjä taitaa kuuluu niihin vähemmistöjen edustajiin, joista valtamedian propagandaa levittävät valehtelevat sontasäkit eivät ikinä kirjoita. Koska se olisi vastoin narratiivia. Ja kuten toisessa ketjussa tuli taas juuri tänään todettua, vihavasurit kaappaavat kaikki vähemmistöryhmien etuja ajavat järjestöt itselleen, ja sitten alkavat ajamaan sitä psykopaattista totalitaristista wokepaskaansa kyseisen vähemmistön nimissä.

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QuotePari henkilöä on jälleen kerran epäillyt, etten olisi trans, koska minulla on mielipiteitä, jotka poikkeavat nykyisen transaktivismin linjasta. Tavallaan olen kokenut nämä näkemykset huvittavina, koska samat ihmiset sanovat aina, että henkilön itsemäärittelyä on kunnioitettava.

Olen viime aikoina verkostoutunut muiden transsukupuolisten kanssa. En todellakaan ole maailman ainoa trans, joka on totaalisen kyllästynyt nykyiseen transaktivismiin.

Koen, että nämä äänet ovat todella tärkeitä nykyisessä transkeskustelussa. Ymmärrän, ettei Suomen tilannetta voi suoraan verrata muihin maihin, joissa transaktivismi on radikaalimpaa. Tästäkin huolimatta pystyn samaistumaan moniin näiden ihmisten kokemuksiin. Siihen on erittäin hyvä syy, miksi myös transsukupuoliset ovat käyneet vastustamaan nykyistä transaktivismia. Monet kaltaiseni transsukupuoliset kokevat, ettei meidän nimissä hyväksytä väitteitä, joita transaktivistit levittävät.

(blogissa paljon muiden ihmisten kommentteja)

https://tulenhenkiblogi.blogspot.com/2021/09/transsukupuolisten-aania-joita-ei.html?m=1 (https://tulenhenkiblogi.blogspot.com/2021/09/transsukupuolisten-aania-joita-ei.html?m=1)

QuoteOlen saanut taas jäähyn Twitteristä. Tätä menoa päädyn Donald Trumpin seuraan jossain vaiheessa. Tällä kertaa tiedän syyn, miksi sain bannit, kyseessä on tämä twiitti: (...)

Sillä tavalla. Edellisessä kirjoituksessani haastattelin toista transmiestä, joka totesi, että transsukupuolinen ei voi olla muuta kuin vihervasemmistolainen. (...)

Somesta pihalle potkimiseen riittää ihan vaan se, ettei ole 100 % samaa mieltä transaktivistien kanssa. Myös ilmiselvien faktojen kertominen riittää siihen, että saa potkut. Vai voiko joku sanoa, että transnaisten osallistuminen naisten urheiluun parantaisi transsukupuolisten asemaa ja mainetta muualla kuin woke-piireissä?
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Mitä tulee viime päivien Mona Bling vs. Aleksi Valavuori-kohuun, niin Mona Bling aiheuttaa pelkästään haittaa transsukupuolisille. Minä en hyväksy Mona Blingin käytöstä.
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Kun sain ensimmäiset bannit Twitteriin, minua lähinnä nauratti, sillä mietin, voiko tämä olla totta. Tällä kertaa minua oikeasti raivostuttaa. Ei sen takia, että en pääse Twitteriin vaan tällainen törkeä sananvapauden rajoittaminen, varsinkaan kun en ole sanonut oikeasti mitään pahaa. Olen vain transsukupuolinen, joka ei ole transaktivistien kanssa samaa mieltä.

https://tulenhenkiblogi.blogspot.com/2021/08/transsukupuolisen-vaarat-mielipiteet.html (https://tulenhenkiblogi.blogspot.com/2021/08/transsukupuolisen-vaarat-mielipiteet.html)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 09.09.2021, 13:13:04
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QuoteSCOOP: Google has launched an "antiracism" initiative claiming that America is a "system of white supremacy" and that all Americans are "raised to be racist"—including Ben Shapiro, who is depicted as a layer of the "white supremacy pyramid," culminating in "genocide."

Thread.

I have obtained a trove of whistleblower documents from inside Google that reveal the company's extensive racial-reeducation program, based on the core tenets of critical race theory—including "intersectionality," "white privilege," and "systemic racism."

In a module called "Allyship in Action," Google trained employees to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities, and then rank themselves on a hierarchy of "power [and] privilege," then "manage [their] reactions" through "cry[ing]" and "accessing [their] 'happy place.'"

In a video, guest lecturer Ibram Kendi claimed that all Americans, including children as young as 3 months old, are racist: "To be raised in the United States, is to be raised to be racist, and to be raised to be racist is to be raised to almost be addicted to racist ideas."

Denial of racism is proof that a person is racist. "For me, the heartbeat of racism is denial and the sound of that denial is 'I'm not racist,'" Kendi told Google employees. "It's a critically important step for Americans to no longer be in denial about their own racism."

In another video, guest lecturer Nikole Hannah-Jones claimed that she created the 1619 Project to verify her "lifelong theory" that everything in the modern-day United States can be traced back to slavery: "If you name anything in America, I can relate it back to slavery."

Jones claimed that "the first Africans being sold [in 1619] is more foundational to the American story" than "the Pilgrims landing at Plymouth Rock."

"If you're white in this country," she said, "you are the beneficiary of a 350-year system of white supremacy."

A Google DEI Lead created an internal document called "Anti-racism resources," containing readings and racial-consciousness exercises. One graphic claims that "colorblindness," "Columbus Day," "weaponized whiteness," and "Make America Great Again" are "covert white supremacy."

Another graphic, titled "The White Supremacy Pyramid," advances the idea that conservative commentator Ben Shapiro is a foundation of "white supremacy" and that Donald Trump is moving society on a path toward "mass murder" and "genocide."

https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1435696884513861632 (https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1435696884513861632)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 11.09.2021, 02:52:19
Quote from: Siili on 06.09.2021, 08:46:13
Oregonin osavaltio on päättänyt, että kolmen vuoden ajan kaikki koulunsa (High School) päättäneet saavat päästötodistuksen, riippumatta opintosuorituksista:

Niin, tommoinen juttu oli muistaakseni meilläkin 1. ja 2. luokalla. Kokeista saatiin leimoja, leijona oli se "kymppi". Tämä siis 70-80 luvun taitteessa. Sovellettiin myös joukko-oppia ja muita viisauksia. (huom. joukko-oppi on oikeasti oikeasti vaikeaa yliopistotason matematiikkaa, eikä kuulu peruskouluun ollenkaan.)

Muistakaa että netistä myös löytyy "yliopistoja", jotka antavat vaikka tohtorinarvon "elämänkokemusta" ja sopivaa palkkiota vastaan.

Koulutus on kyllä tulossa jonkinlaiseen kriisiin.







Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 11.09.2021, 05:00:05
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 11.09.2021, 02:52:19
Quote from: Siili on 06.09.2021, 08:46:13
Oregonin osavaltio on päättänyt, että kolmen vuoden ajan kaikki koulunsa (High School) päättäneet saavat päästötodistuksen, riippumatta opintosuorituksista:

Niin, tommoinen juttu oli muistaakseni meilläkin 1. ja 2. luokalla. Kokeista saatiin leimoja, leijona oli se "kymppi". Tämä siis 70-80 luvun taitteessa. Sovellettiin myös joukko-oppia ja muita viisauksia. (huom. joukko-oppi on oikeasti oikeasti vaikeaa yliopistotason matematiikkaa, eikä kuulu peruskouluun ollenkaan.)

Muistakaa että netistä myös löytyy "yliopistoja", jotka antavat vaikka tohtorinarvon "elämänkokemusta" ja sopivaa palkkiota vastaan.

Koulutus on kyllä tulossa jonkinlaiseen kriisiin.
Voi silti olla rasismia epäillä, että kaikki Bagdadin tai Mogadishun tutkinnot olisivat "ostettuja".
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/vasemmistoliiton-ex-ministeri-saramo-vertasi-suomeen-pyrkivia-humanitaarisia-maahanmuuttajia-nobel-voittajiin-tavio-tyrmasi-en-usko-etta-tuossa-ryhmassa-on-montaa-nettoveronmaksaj/ (https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/vasemmistoliiton-ex-ministeri-saramo-vertasi-suomeen-pyrkivia-humanitaarisia-maahanmuuttajia-nobel-voittajiin-tavio-tyrmasi-en-usko-etta-tuossa-ryhmassa-on-montaa-nettoveronmaksaj/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.09.2021, 12:08:44
Woken uskonnollisesta luonteesta Lindsay on kirjoittanut aiemminkin, tässä taas lyhyt ketju asiaan liittyen.

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QuoteI'm not quite sure how to outline this in a Twitter thread, but I'mma try. It's a theological point on the evolution of the Marxian religion from Marxism to neo-Marxism (of which "Woke" is a postmodern-adapted kind).

I think it really shows a way in which it's truly religious.

The general idea of the Marxian religion is that History has a purpose, and History is therefore kind of tied up with a metaphysics that, in its earlier Hegelian expression, was definitely the Deity (the Absolute). Marx just made it all "material," but it's really the same.

At the End of History, there's a Utopia (Communism). It's like the Kingdom (on Earth—hence similarities to Millenarian religion). So, Marxism has a "Heaven," and History marches there by the progression of the dialectic (accelerate the contradictions!).

The dialectical march of History in Marxism is inexorable. Conditions eventually arise that ensure the transition from capitalism to the managed liminal stage of Socialism, which in turn eventually results in Communism at the End of History, i.e., the end of the dialectic.

Incidentally this marks "the Right Side of History" as an article of faith in Marxism (a soteriology, actually) and "real Communism has never been tried" as the basis for a theory of its own evil (a theodicy): all the mayhem and murder and death is just the dialectic progressing.

So, Marxism as a religion has a Heaven, a catechism with duties of conscience, a soteriology, and a theodicy. Very religious. Undeniably. But neo-Marxism takes this to a new level.

Marxism has a Heaven, you see, but neo-Marxism has a Heaven (Communism under the brand names "Liberation" or "Justice") and a Hell ("fascism"). Thus, it has a far stronger religious theory of good and evil, thus far stronger duties of conscience.

Neo-Marxism believes, like Marxism, that capitalism is inherently unstable and sure to collapse in its own contradictions by means of the progress of the dialectic (this is the point of The Dialectic of Enlightenment), but it believes Marx is wrong about the certainty of History.

Neo-Marxism sees two endpoints for capitalism: fascism ("rationality becomes irrational" and domination spirals out of control) or socialism swoops in (but not too Soviet!) and saves the world from descending into that Hell. So neo-Marxists believe they are saving the world.

This is much different. Marxists believe they're doing the necessary work of bringing the Kingdom into being. Neo-Marxists believe they're saving the world from the Precipice of Hell by doing the same. This is far stronger in terms of duties of conscience for the faithful.

This is what Antifa is about, by the way. It believes it is stopping the inexorable descent of the existing society into fascism and doom. They believe they're saving the world.

The "Woke" Identity Marxists are a kind of neo-Marxists who have made identity the central construct for understanding inequalities. They believe this way. They believe they have total duties of conscience to save the world from descending into fascistic identity-based supremacy.

This is religion. Duties of conscience of this kind, especially in connection with beliefs about the ordering of life in the world, are religious under all existing First Amendment jurisprudence, theological arguments aside.

We MUST recognize what we're dealing with.

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1436883761048788997 (https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1436883761048788997)

"We must do the work"... "Äärioikeisto" on jatkuvasti nousemassa ja se pitää pysäyttää, ja tämän tavoitteen vuoksi pitää uhrata "hieman" ihmisten vapauksia... (Suoraan valkoiseen ylivaltaan ja sosiaaliseen oikeuteen kytkeytyvä) ilmastonmuutos johtaa Tuomiopäivään, jos länsimaiden ihmiset ei heti "paranna tapojaan"... Jne jne...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.09.2021, 16:02:21
Muualla laitetaan edes vähän hanttiin, Suomessa oikeusministeriö avoimesti levittää kriittistä rotuteoriaa. Hienosti menee.

https://oikeusministerio.fi/-/olen-antirasisti-kampanja-haastaa-rakentamaan-rasismista-vapaata-suomea (https://oikeusministerio.fi/-/olen-antirasisti-kampanja-haastaa-rakentamaan-rasismista-vapaata-suomea)

QuoteOlen Antirasisti -kampanja haastaa rakentamaan rasismista vapaata Suomea
Oikeusministeriö 13.9.2021 11.53
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Oikeusministeriö ja yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutettu käynnistävät tänään nuorille aikuisille suunnatun kampanjan, joka rohkaisee ihmisiä toimimaan antirasistisesti omassa arjessaan ja kannustaa pohtimaan rasismin vaikutuksia laajemmin yhteiskunnassa. Kampanja liittyy hallituksen rasismin vastaiseen ja hyvien väestösuhteiden toimintaohjelmaan, joka on tarkoitus hyväksyä syksyn aikana.

Etniset ja uskonnolliset vähemmistöt kohtaavat rasismia Suomessa sekä yksittäisinä rasistisina tekoina että arjessa tapahtuvana syrjintänä ja ulossulkemisena. Rasismia esiintyy laaja-alaisesti eri yhteiskunnan osa-alueilla niin koulutuksessa, työelämässä kuin julkisissa tiloissakin. Olen Antirasisti -kampanjalla kannustetaan puuttumaan rasismiin sekä toimimaan aktiivisesti rasismia vastaan.

Tavoitteena on lisätä tietoisuutta antirasismista ja antaa työkaluja rasismiin puuttumiseen. Rasismin tuomitseminen ei yksinään riitä, vaan yhdenvertaisemman yhteiskunnan rakentamiseksi tarvitaan myös tekoja.

- Rasismi on laaja-alainen yhteiskunnallinen syrjinnän muoto, jota liian moni kokee omassa arjessaan. Rasismin passiivinen tuomitseminen ei riitä yhdenvertaisuuden edistämiseksi. Meidän täytyy olla antirasisteja eli tietoisesti toimia rasismia vastaan aktiivisilla teoilla, oikeusministeri Anna-Maja Henriksson sanoo.

- Ihmisoikeuksien ja yhdenvertaisuuden turvaaminen on hallitusohjelman keskeisiä tavoitteita. Haluamme rakentaa suomalaista yhteiskuntaa, jossa jokainen tulee kuulluksi, nähdyksi ja kohdatuksi ilman syrjintää tai syrjinnän pelkoa, Henriksson jatkaa.

Kampanjassa on mukana joukko organisaatioita, jotka jakavat sosiaalisessa mediassa omia antirasistisia tekojaan. Esimerkkien toivotaan rohkaisevan muitakin tahoja pohtimaan konkreettisia toimenpiteitä yhdenvertaisuuden edistämiseksi.

- Rasismi on vakava yhdenvertaisuusongelma ja se uhkaa monen lapsen ja nuoren arjen turvallisuutta ja mielenterveyttä. Meidän on tehtävä kaikkemme rasismiin puuttumiseksi. Se työ ei saa jäädä ainoastaan vähemmistöihin kuuluvien ihmisten harteille. Se, että kampanjassa on mukana laajasti organisaatioita, lähettää vahvan viestin siitä, että rasismia ei hyväksytä ja sitä vastaan halutaan toimia aktiivisesti laajalla rintamalla. Jokainen meistä voi olla rakentamassa yhteiskuntaa, jossa jokainen ihminen on arvokas ja yhdenvertainen, yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutettu Kristina Stenman toteaa.

Kampanjan verkkosivut löytyvät osoitteesta yhdenvertaisuus.fi/olenantirasisti.fiLinkki toiselle sivustolleAvautuu uudessa välilehdessä. Lisäksi kampanjassa on tuotettu video, jonka voi nähdä Ylen yleishyödyllisessä tietoiskussa tämän viikon ajan. Kampanjamateriaaleja jaetaan sosiaalisessa mediassa aihetunnisteella #OlenAntirasisti.

Oikeusministeriön ja yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutetun toimiston lisäksi kampanjan suunnittelussa on ollut mukana asiantuntijoista koostuva raati. Kampanja on osa oikeusministeriön Yhdessä yhdenvertaisuuden puolesta -hanketta, joka saa rahoitusta Euroopan unionin perusoikeus-, tasa-arvo- ja kansalaisuus -ohjelmasta. 

Kampanjaan voi osallistua esimerkiksi jakamalla kampanjavideota tai kertomalla oman antirasistisen tekonsa sosiaalisessa mediassa.

https://yhdenvertaisuus.fi/olenantirasisti.fi (https://yhdenvertaisuus.fi/olenantirasisti.fi)

QuoteMitä on antirasismi?

Antirasismi on aktiivista ja tietoista toimintaa kaikkia rasismin muotoja vastaan.  Antirasistista toimintaa on se työ, joka vähentää etnistä syrjintää, syrjivien käytäntöjen vaikutuksia ja kielteisiä ennakkoluuloja.

Miten voin toimia antirasistisesti?
Tietoisuus antirasismista


Oman ymmärryksen lisääminen rasismista on antirasismin keskiössä. On tärkeä hahmottaa, miten laajasta ilmiöstä on kyse, jotta pystyy tunnistamaan, tiedostamaan ja muuttamaan asioita. Ensimmäinen askel kohti rasismin purkamista on siis tiedon lisääminen. Ymmärrys rasismin historiallisista ja rakenteellisista ulottuvuuksista, sekä niiden vaikutuksista rasismia kohtaavaan ihmiseen ja laajemmin yhteiskuntaan, on oleellista.

Ymmärrystä ja tietoisuutta lisätään omalla aktiivisella toiminnalla - etniseen tai uskonnolliseen vähemmistöön tai alkuperäiskansaan kuuluvia ihmisiä kuormittamatta.

Oman roolin ymmärtäminen

Antirasismi edellyttää aktiivista oppimista, tilan antamista, toimimista ja kuuntelemista. Jokaisella on tärkeä rooli yhdenvertaisuuden edistämisessä, vaikka kaikki eivät itse koe rasismia. Tällaisissa tilanteissa voi hyödyntää omaa asemaansa syrjintää kokevien ihmisten yhdenvertaisuuden edistämiseksi.

Pohdinta omasta roolista antirasistisessa prosessissa vaatii aikaa ja kärsivällisyyttä, ja siihen saattaa liittyä vaikeitakin tunteita kuten epämukavuutta. Virheitä voi tapahtua, mutta ne kannattaa ottaa mahdollisuutena kehittyä antirasistisena toimijana.

Aktiiviset teot

Antirasismissa pyritään aina vähentämään rasismia. Muutoksen aikaansaamiseksi pitää tehdä aktiivisia antirasistisia tekoja. Tämä tarkoittaa, että puututaan aktiivisesti epäasialliseen käytökseen ja syrjintään, ja edistetään yhdenvertaisuutta yhteiskunnassa.

Rasismin passiivinen vastustaminen ei riitä. Rasismista vapaata Suomea luodaan puuttumalla aktiivisesti rasistisiin tekoihin. Sinä voit päättää, että olet osa tätä muutosta.

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QuoteSocial Justice scholars, including DiAngelo, indicate that antiracism is a "practice" that requires a "lifelong commitment to an ongoing process" of fighting systemic racism (see also, praxis). This process expects people to constantly reflect upon the ways in which they, and others, support, or are complicit in, "whiteness," "anti-blackness," "racism," and "white supremacy," as these terms are understood from within the context of critical race Theory and critical whiteness studies. It then expects antiracists to subscribe to social activism which allegedly minimizes its impacts, including—as DiAngelo has put it regarding herself—through the concerted attempt to "be less white" (see also, problematize).

Antiracism carries with it a commitment to accept the systemic definition for racism—i.e., that it exists immanently, always and everywhere, regardless of intent—even if there isn't a single person who is racist in the usual understanding. The system itself can be "racist" even if there are no racists within that system (see also, systemic power). An antiracist has the obligation of searching for instances of racism that confirm the systemic "reality" of racism, internally, with others, and in society and its various forms of representation.

While critical race Theorists and educators like Robin DiAngelo distinguish between "active racism" and "passive racism," they indicate (e.g., in Is Everyone Really Equal?) that it is not possible to be passively antiracist. There is only active antiracism. In fact, to be passively antiracist would be to be passively racist, instead! Thus, the requirement to be an activist, both in the inward, soul-searching sense of the word and in the usual outward sense, is absolute and non-negotiable.

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-antiracism/ (https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-antiracism/)

QuoteSo long as racial disparities exist, anti-racists can reflexively ascribe them to racism and justify any and every measure deemed necessary to eliminate them while anyone who questions this approach can be labeled racist and swiftly thrown out of polite society, and this occurs as we gradually veer towards an increasingly dystopian culture of fear. It doesn't take an ethnic studies major to recognize the danger of this approach. Even Kendi acknowledges that his "secular strivings to be an anti-racist" are inseparable from his "parents religious strivings to be Christian." The difference is that one is an inward journey of the spirit and the other is an outward project meant explicitly to attain power. Anti-racism is a totalizing religion disguised as politics.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/defining-racism-ibram-kendi-weird-definition-antiracism/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/defining-racism-ibram-kendi-weird-definition-antiracism/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 17.09.2021, 11:08:10
Tästä oli jo lyhyitä lainauksia Peräkammarin puolella, mutta kun oli niin hyvä kirjoitus, niin laitetaan tännekin.

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/vasemmiston-oikeaoppinen-uusherannaisyys-on-aikamme-pahin-tauti/#2a71d54e (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/vasemmiston-oikeaoppinen-uusherannaisyys-on-aikamme-pahin-tauti/#2a71d54e)

QuoteJari Ehrnrooth: Vasemmiston oikeaoppinen uusherännäisyys on aikamme pahin tauti
Arvoyhtenäisyyttä ajava uusvasemmistolainen liikehdintä tavoittelee kirjoittajan mukaan ylivaltaa.

Yhä useampi meistä kysyy, elämmekö uutta 1970-lukua, ja ihmettelee, mistä ajan onkalosta oikeaoppista arvoyhtenäisyyttä vaativat Edistyksen voimat jälleen nousevat.

Kovin absurdilta vaikuttaa uuden sukupolven jakobiininen kiukku länsimaisen kulttuurin ja kapitalismin ylivoimaisia henkisiä, aineellisia ja ihmisoikeudellisia saavutuksia kohtaan. Miksi heille ei riitä individualistinen arvovapaus, jonka läntinen liberaali demokratia jokaiselle turvaa?

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Feminismin ja stalinismin epäpyhä liitto valkoista miestä vastaan

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En haluaisi uskoa, mutta totta tämä on, jupisin äskettäin, kun Wienin taidehallissa silmilleni avautui kokonainen kerros kommunismia ihailevien tsekkiläisten romanitaiteilijoiden teoksia.

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Kerrosta alempana näyttelytilan valtaavat antikolonialistiset ja feministiset julistukset, joissa valkoista europatriarkaalista miestä vihataan päästä varpaisiin. Vierailijoille jaetaan perheen pienimmille luettava satukirja "Papa with P for Patriarchy – a tale about dads and their superpowers." Ivalliset kuvat tihkuvat halveksuntaa rasitteeksi koettua isää kohtaan. Tekstit ovat hyytävää luettavaa. Valkoinen mies on historian ja perheen loismainen hirviö, jonka rikokset on paljastettava ja tuomittava, ennen kuin lapset ja äidit voivat elää hyvää elämää. "Made with anticolonial, anticapitalist and antipatriarchal love by Daniela Ortiz", kertoo viimeinen sivu.

Puhdasoppisuuden vaatimus ja kielen puhdistus

Näin siis vanha marxismi ja sen uudet variaatiot elävät rinta rinnan. Antikapitalismi ja viha porvaristoa kohtaan täydentyvät uusilla aineksilla, joista vihainen feminismi, yltiöpäinen luontoaktivismi ja biologisten sukupuolikäsitteiden kieltäminen tulevat päivittäin vastaan vähän joka suunnasta. Puhdasoppisuutta vaaditaan, hyveellisyyden merkeillä aidataan alueita ja väärämieliset suljetaan ulkopuolelle. Katsokaapa vain, miten sateenkaarivärejä, lippua, kasseja ja rintanappeja käytetään hyveuskollisuuden tunnuskuvina. Englannin kouluissa oppilaille opetetaan, mitä saa sukupuolesta sanoa, mitä ei. Väärät sanat poistetaan kielestä.

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Tämä uusherännäisen vasemmiston julma totaalidemokraattinen henki on jo tuhonnut viattomia ihmisiä ja uria. Yksikin väärä lausahdus tai ilmaisu riittää. Mutta ehkä kaikkein kammottavin ja historiallisesti merkittävin ilmiö on kääntyminen koko länsimaista sivilisaatiota vastaan.

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Me näemme yhä uusia tapoja katkaista traditio, hylätä korkeakulttuurin saavutukset ja instituutiot, unohtaa hyvä käytös ja herrasmiesetiikka, tuomita tieteen ja taiteen miesnerot, liberaalin demokratian luoneista suurmiehistä nyt puhumattakaan. Eilen orjanomistaja Jefferson, tänään rasistinen Churchill, ensi viikolla kai patriarkaalinen Lincoln. Kunnia riistetty, koska eivät noudattaneet oman aikamme vasemmiston ihanteita.

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Yhtä harhauttavaa olisi tyytyä siihen vaikutelmaan, että elämme nyt 1970-luvun toisintoa. Vaikka samankaltaisuuksia on, tämä vasemmistolaiseen arvoyhtenäisyyteen pyrkivä uusi aalto on jotakin sellaista, mitä koskaan aikaisemmin ei ole nähty.

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Liberaalidemokraattien tehtävä on turvata arvovapaus

Meidän liberaalidemokraattien, joille yksilön vapaus on sekä pyhä arvo että jokapäiväinen realiteetti, on kyettävä torjumaan arvoyhtenäisyyttä ajava uusvasemmisto.

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Vastaavasti koko länsimainen sivistystraditio haastavine vaatimuksineen näyttäytyy sortavana rakenteena, joka on kumottava autuuden saavuttamiseksi. Europatriarkaalinen valkoinen heteromies – jonka tekosia maailmanhistorian toistaiseksi jaloin ja humaanein korkeakulttuurimme enimmäkseen on – tarjoutuu pääviholliseksi, jota kohti ampumalla ei voi osua harhaan.

Tällainen uusherännäisyys meillä nyt on keskuudessamme eikä se hälvene kuin paha uni aamun kirkkaudessa. Omasta puolestani tunnen tarvetta torjua uusvasemmistolaista totalitarismia. Yksilön vapaus ja oikeus omaan elämään, omaan ajatteluun, omiin arvopäämääriin ja omaan kielenkäyttöön on minusta juuri se paras, jonka länsimainen sivilisaatio on meistä jokaiselle kyennyt oikeusvaltion vahvoin säännöksin takaamaan.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.09.2021, 12:07:13
Quote from: zupi on 17.09.2021, 11:08:10
https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/vasemmiston-oikeaoppinen-uusherannaisyys-on-aikamme-pahin-tauti/#2a71d54e (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/vasemmiston-oikeaoppinen-uusherannaisyys-on-aikamme-pahin-tauti/#2a71d54e)

QuoteJari Ehrnrooth: Vasemmiston oikeaoppinen uusherännäisyys on aikamme pahin tauti
Yhtä harhauttavaa olisi tyytyä siihen vaikutelmaan, että elämme nyt 1970-luvun toisintoa. Vaikka samankaltaisuuksia on, tämä vasemmistolaiseen arvoyhtenäisyyteen pyrkivä uusi aalto on jotakin sellaista, mitä koskaan aikaisemmin ei ole nähty.

Eipä ole nähty, ei. Nämä nykykommarit hyppäävät rotuteorioineen ja intersektionaalisine rasismeineen jo selkeästi natsien puolelle.

Sisko ja sen veli on löytäneet toisensa.

Jos tätä asiaa nyt lopputuloksen kannalta katsellaan, niin Aatuhan sai tuhottua saksalaista ja venäläistä valkoista heteromiestä parhaaseen tukkukauppatyyliin, sellaiseen josta Critical Social Justice -kiihkoilijat voivat toistaiseksi vain unelmoida. Eikä rajojenkaan säilyttäminen Aatua kiinnostanut lebensraumia laajentaessa.

Ja toisaalta II maailmansota oli "suuri isänmaallinen sota", joten aika kansallista sosialismia se Neuvostoliiton kommunismikin oli, koska internationalisti Trotski hävisi ja sai hakusta otsaansa.

Sosialismit siis yhdistyvät yhden sateenkarilipun alla. Seuraava maailmanvalloitusyritys on valmis alkamaan. Ja koska kommunismin selkein track record on omien kansalaisten harventaminen, ei ole mitään syytä epäillä etteikö näin kävisi tälläkin kertaa.

Elämme mielenkiintoisia aikoja.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: nochWunder on 17.09.2021, 12:12:37
Sieltä sitä paskaa valuu. Mikään ei pysäytä näitä, kun ideologit kerran ovat päättävillä paikoilla.

Sota siitä lopulta tulee. Vittu ei mahda mitään. Mitä aikaisemmin kansa heräisi, sitä enemmän ihmishenkiä säästyisi.

Esim. Jos kovaääninen kapina alkaisi heti, voisimme päästä lähes naarmuitta eroon paskasta noin 10 vuodessa.

Mutta niin ei käy. Muutenhan ratkaisu historian toistumiseen olisi keksitty.

Veikkaan että Euroopassa alkaa veri lentää aika pian ihan kunnolla. Emme näe vuosikymmenen vaihtumista ilman, että jossain tapetaan ihmisiä.

Kyllä sen noista pakkorottajistakin huomaa, että verenhimo on jo suurta.

Polarisaatio poistuu kun ihmiset väsyvät ruumiiden lemuun, eikä enää tee mieli hakata väärinajattelijoita.

"Sovittaisko taas asioista puhumalla?"


Jokainen polarisoiva aihe lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Jokainen pakkotoimilla uhkailu tai tottelemattomuus lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Ja lehdistö rakastaa polarisointia. Se on siellä ja se on ihan oikeasti olemassa. Se on aikapommi, joka pitäisi purkaa hallitusti.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 17.09.2021, 12:25:01
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QuoteBREAKING: A school board in Rockland County, New York, forces the resignation of superintendent Martin Cox, who was pushing for a critical race theory-based curriculum.

According to sources, parents banded together, filed FOIA requests, and pressured the board to oust him.

This isn't "cancel culture," "white backlash," or any other dishonest framing from the media blob.

It's the heart of democracy: average citizens asserting their authority as voters, taxpayers, and parents, demanding that public institutions reflect the values of the public.

https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1438578374323032070 (https://twitter.com/realchrisrufo/status/1438578374323032070)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: stefani on 17.09.2021, 14:28:13
Quote from: nochWunder on 17.09.2021, 12:12:37

Veikkaan että Euroopassa alkaa veri lentää aika pian ihan kunnolla. Emme näe vuosikymmenen vaihtumista ilman, että jossain tapetaan ihmisiä.

Kyllä sen noista pakkorottajistakin huomaa, että verenhimo on jo suurta.

Quote
Jokainen polarisoiva aihe lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Jokainen pakkotoimilla uhkailu tai tottelemattomuus lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Ja lehdistö rakastaa polarisointia. Se on siellä ja se on ihan oikeasti olemassa. Se on aikapommi, joka pitäisi purkaa hallitusti.

Verenhimosta puhuminen on ehkä liioittelua, mutta itse pitäisin huomionarvoisena, että keinotekoisesti tuotetut inhon ja ällötyksen tunteet ovat tainneet olla viime aikoina tasaisesti lisääntymään päin? Eikö nykyään ole tavallista, että ihmiset pitävät muita ihmisiä tai heidän ajatuksia inhoa ja ällötystä aiheuttavina?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: nochWunder on 17.09.2021, 15:00:29
Quote from: stefani on 17.09.2021, 14:28:13
Quote from: nochWunder on 17.09.2021, 12:12:37

Veikkaan että Euroopassa alkaa veri lentää aika pian ihan kunnolla. Emme näe vuosikymmenen vaihtumista ilman, että jossain tapetaan ihmisiä.

Kyllä sen noista pakkorottajistakin huomaa, että verenhimo on jo suurta.

Quote
Jokainen polarisoiva aihe lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Jokainen pakkotoimilla uhkailu tai tottelemattomuus lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Ja lehdistö rakastaa polarisointia. Se on siellä ja se on ihan oikeasti olemassa. Se on aikapommi, joka pitäisi purkaa hallitusti.

Verenhimosta puhuminen on ehkä liioittelua, mutta itse pitäisin huomionarvoisena, että keinotekoisesti tuotetut inhon ja ällötyksen tunteet ovat tainneet olla viime aikoina tasaisesti lisääntymään päin? Eikö nykyään ole tavallista, että ihmiset pitävät muita ihmisiä tai heidän ajatuksia inhoa ja ällötystä aiheuttavina?

Se on juuri verenhimoa. Mitä teet kun ällöttävä tautinen rotta lähestyy sinua uhkaavasti, hakkaat sen simittömällä kauhulla kappaleiksi lähimmällä astalolla.

Tästä puhutaan, kun puhutaan toisen maailmansodan ihmistuhonnasta. Hysteerisestä kauhunomaisesta listimisestä. Täynä inhoa ja ällötystä.

Siksi vihattuja tahoja verrataan rottiin ja saastaan. Koska niitä inhotaan vatsanpohjasta saakka.

Kuulostaa liioittelulta ja väritellyltä, mutta juuri niin se toimii, kansanmurhat.

Pelkkä viha talttuu paljon nopeammin kuin inho, vaikka jälki on rumaa silloinkin. Mutta inho pitää pintansa kunnes inhoajan pää paranee.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 17.09.2021, 20:04:06
Sekalaista...

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QuoteGender dysphoria is the only mental condition that doctors are forced to "affirm," meaning that the patient has complete control over their diagnosis. Really think about the implications of that given the current phenomenon of social contagion & how dysphoria is commonly treated.

The word "inclusive" in this tweet basically means, "we accept that some people have made 'identities' out of their mental conditions and we will therefore abandon our role as competent medical professionals in this area."

Imagine mental health care "inclusive" of people who identify as Elvis Presley. They'll treat some of their mental health issues, but refuse to treat or even question their belief that they're Elvis. They will be fully accepted as Elvis. They'll even address them as "The King."

Does this sound like good healthcare to you? Wouldn't it be useful to investigate *why* they identify as Elvis? Wouldn't this provide some potentially useful information about the root cause of their other mental health issues and allow doctors to make informed medical decisions?

https://mobile.twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1438567188965707798 (https://mobile.twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1438567188965707798)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Saturnalia on 17.09.2021, 20:35:24
Quote from: nochWunder on 17.09.2021, 12:12:37
Sieltä sitä paskaa valuu. Mikään ei pysäytä näitä, kun ideologit kerran ovat päättävillä paikoilla.

Sota siitä lopulta tulee. Vittu ei mahda mitään. Mitä aikaisemmin kansa heräisi, sitä enemmän ihmishenkiä säästyisi.

Veikkaan että Euroopassa alkaa veri lentää aika pian ihan kunnolla. Emme näe vuosikymmenen vaihtumista ilman, että jossain tapetaan ihmisiä.

Verenhimoa on ilmassa, mutta mahdollinen sota tulee olemaan niitä vastaan jotka haluavat kääntyä islamiin. Se on se tulevaisuuden vääntö. Siinä sodassa iso osa vihollisista on suomalaisia, jotka haluavat olla muslimeja. Sinun täytyy tarjota heille jokin vaihtoehto.
Let me tell you, ateismi ei heille tule kelpaamaan. Sinun täytyy tarjota heille jotain konkreettista, parempaa kuin islam.
Länsimaisten naisten tyyli on jo alkanut muuttua. Sen nimi on Taliban Chic. https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/08/18/taliban-chic/

Mitä sulla on tarjota jotain, joka on kauniimpaa kuin taliban chic? Once more i may let you know: ateismi ei toimi catwalkilla.
Tämä on se sota. Sulla täytyy olla jotain ammoa. Joku vitun Dawkins on liian pienikalipeerinen. Mutta itäisen Euroopan kanssa aivan samaa mieltä, kommunismiin tässä ollaan menossa mutta itse veikkaan, ettei suurta sotaa ilmene. Ihmiset alistuvat. Voittajalle.
Kulttuuriselle voittajalle.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kekkeruusi on 17.09.2021, 22:11:57
Quote from: nochWunder on 17.09.2021, 12:12:37
Sieltä sitä paskaa valuu. Mikään ei pysäytä näitä, kun ideologit kerran ovat päättävillä paikoilla.

Sota siitä lopulta tulee. Vittu ei mahda mitään. Mitä aikaisemmin kansa heräisi, sitä enemmän ihmishenkiä säästyisi.

Esim. Jos kovaääninen kapina alkaisi heti, voisimme päästä lähes naarmuitta eroon paskasta noin 10 vuodessa.

Mutta niin ei käy. Muutenhan ratkaisu historian toistumiseen olisi keksitty.

Veikkaan että Euroopassa alkaa veri lentää aika pian ihan kunnolla. Emme näe vuosikymmenen vaihtumista ilman, että jossain tapetaan ihmisiä.

Kyllä sen noista pakkorottajistakin huomaa, että verenhimo on jo suurta.

Polarisaatio poistuu kun ihmiset väsyvät ruumiiden lemuun, eikä enää tee mieli hakata väärinajattelijoita.

"Sovittaisko taas asioista puhumalla?"


Jokainen polarisoiva aihe lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Jokainen pakkotoimilla uhkailu tai tottelemattomuus lataa verenhimoa kansaan. Ja lehdistö rakastaa polarisointia. Se on siellä ja se on ihan oikeasti olemassa. Se on aikapommi, joka pitäisi purkaa hallitusti.
Miten se menikään?
"Vaikeat ajat luovat vahvoja miehiä, vahvat miehet luovat helppoja aikoja, helpot ajat luovat vätyksiä, vätykset luovat vaikeita aikoja."

Kukaan ei halua sotaa, mutta kukaan ei halua totalitaristien valtaa. Vaihtoehdot ovat vähissä siis.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 18.09.2021, 00:08:20
Sosialistit ovat vallassa, get over it. Kommunistit ja jihadistit ovat kuin paita ja perse. Toisella marxismi ja toisella jihadismi. Molemmilla tavoitteena toinen toistaan julmempi diktatuuri.
Suomessa sukupuolten tasa-arvo on ollut länsimaiden kärkiluokkaa. Sodassa ja työssä kumpikin ovat jo pitkään toimineet maata rakentaen. Suurten ikäluokkien viimeisenä mohikaanina kiroan nykymenon. Vallankumouksellinen vasemmisto osaa polkea suomalaisten perusoikeuksia ja vaatia mitä kummallisempia erioikeuksia kaikille abnormi-ihmisille eli friikeille. Nuorisolle syötetään outoja oppeja velastamme värillisille ja kaikille kaapeissa piileskelleille  poikkeaville. Urheilijan sukupuolta voidaan säätää hormooneilla tarpeen mukaan, miksei siis muidenkin? Perinteinen nainen-mieskuvion tilalle haluavat kahjot liukuvan sukupuolen. Ongelmia on tullut yhteiskunnalle kalliista kirurgiasta näiden häiriintyneiden hoidosta, kas kun siinä ei ole katumuspilleriä. Syanidipillerin määrää Dr Mengele tai tohtori Outolempi.
Nyt tarvitaan ryhtiliikettä ja maalaisjärkeä, muuten menee yhteiskunta nurin.
Saarnan lopuksi veisataan sateenkaarivirsi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9_353Nnts&list=PL269CDF04DC00FEA5&index=15
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 18.09.2021, 14:08:04
Inside Higher Ed -lehdessä oli mielenkiintoinen artikkeli koskien jenkkiyliopistojen valmennusta moninaisuuteen (diversity), oikeudenmukaisuuteen (equity) ja sisällyttämiseen (inclusion). 

https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2021/04/29/colleges-should-focus-education-more-training-about-dei-issues-opinion

Jutun pihvinä on kritiikki sille, että sikäläiset yliopistot valmentavat (training) yhä enemmän, kun niiden pitäisi kouluttaa (education).  Artikkelissa painotetaan eroja:

QuoteTraining makes assumptions; education challenges them.
Training is packaged; education cannot be contained.
Training rewards compliance, education curiosity.
Training is having to say something, education having something to say.
Training tells you what to think; education teaches you how to think.
Training answers questions; education poses them.
Training is generic; education all about context.
Training simplifies the world; education reveals its complexity.
Training promotes conformity, education independence.
Training is performative; education is transformative.

Kirjoittajien mukaan valmennus ei ole sovelias metodi sosiaalisten ongelmien kohtaamiseen:

QuoteTraining has its uses. It can even save lives. (See CPR above.) But training is woefully inadequate when it comes to confronting social problems such as poverty, discrimination and racism. These are long-standing, knotty and complex issues that defy ready-made solutions. Any serious effort to address them must start with education, a process for which there are no shortcuts.

Juttu on muutenkin mielenkiintoinen, suosittelen lukemaan. En tiedä, miten valmentavaa esimerkiksi suomalaisten yliopistojen humanistinen koulutus on, mutta ainakin suomalaiset journalistit valmentavat mielestäni aivan liikaa. Ikävän moni heistä tietää jo, miten asioiden pitäisi paremmassa maailmassa olla, ja valmentavat rahvasta tukemaan sen syntyä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 18.09.2021, 15:00:51
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Quote from: zupi on 08.09.2021, 18:19:42
Jahas, Boghossianilla tuli mitta täyteen. (...)

QuoteMy University Sacrificed Ideas for Ideology. So Today I Quit.
The more I spoke out against the illiberalism that has swallowed Portland State University, the more retaliation I faced.
Peter Boghossian


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Heitetään kevennyksenä mukaan tämä, pitää tuntea vähän taustaa ymmärtääkseen tuon.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.09.2021, 01:34:15
Aikas mielenkiintoinen kirjoitus vuodelta 2018. Kirjoittaja Bradley Campbell näyttää olleen Hommalla pariinkin otteeseen esillä. Hän käyttää nimitystä "uhrikulttuuri", mutta käytännössä puhutaan juuri ketjun aiheesta. Lindsayn/Pluckrosen/Boghossanianin tekemisiäkin kirjoituksessa sivutaan.

https://quillette.com/2018/11/14/the-free-speech-crisis-on-campus-is-worse-than-people-think/ (https://quillette.com/2018/11/14/the-free-speech-crisis-on-campus-is-worse-than-people-think/)

QuoteThe Free Speech Crisis on Campus Is Worse than People Think
Bradley Campbell
14 Nov 2018


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A new moral culture

If you were a time traveler from 10 years ago—maybe even five years ago—you'd probably have trouble following some of that. What's a microaggression? What's woke? And how could a New York Times op-ed lead to that kind of uproar on campus? But if you've been around, and if you've been following the happenings on American college campuses, you're familiar by now with conflicts like this and the new moral terminology guiding the campus activists. In the last few years we've seen professors such as Nicholas Christakis at Yale and Brett Weinstein at Evergreen State College surrounded by angry, cursing students, with Christakis and his wife, Erika Christakis, soon leaving their positions as the masters of one of Yale's residential colleges and Weinstein and his wife, Heather Heying, leaving Evergreen entirely. We've heard about microaggressions, said to be small slights that over time do great harm to disadvantaged groups; trigger warnings, which some students demand before they are exposed to course material that might be disturbing; and safe spaces, where people can go to be free of ideas that challenge leftist identity politics. We've heard claims that speech that offends campus activists is actually violence, and we've seen activists use actual violence to stop it —and to defend this as self-defense—when administrators fail to do so.

These are all signs of a new moral culture.
In our book The Rise of Victimhood Culture: Microaggressions, Safe Spaces, and the New Culture Wars, Jason Manning and I discuss how a new culture of victimhood differs from cultures of honor and dignity, and we discuss how the new culture threatens the mission of the university.

In honor cultures men want to appear formidable. A reputation for bravery, for being willing and capable of handling conflicts through violence, is important. (mitäköhän kulttuuria tuo nykyisin koskee...) In a society like the pre-Civil War American South, for example, a gentleman who allowed himself or his family members to be injured or insulted might be thought a coward, someone with no honor, and lose his social standing. To avoid this, men sometimes fought duels. In honor cultures men are sensitive even to minor slights, but they handle such offenses themselves, possibly with violence.

In dignity cultures, though, people have worth regardless of their reputations. Because an insult doesn't take away your worth, your dignity, you can ignore others' insults. For serious injuries you can go to the police or use the courts. In dignity cultures, then, people aren't as sensitive to slights—they're encouraged to have thick skins—and they're not as likely to handle offenses themselves, certainly not violently—they're encouraged to appeal to the proper authorities.

But the new culture of victimhood combines sensitivity to slight with appeal to authority. Those who embrace it see themselves as fighting oppression, and even minor offenses can be worthy of attention and action. Slights, insults, and sometimes even arguments or evidence might further victimize an oppressed group, and authorities must deal with them. You could call this social justice culture since those who embrace it are pursuing a vision of social justice. But we call it victimhood culture because being recognized as a victim of oppression now confers a kind of moral status, in much the same way that being recognized for bravery did in honor cultures.

What victimhood culture is not

(...)

Victimhood culture is a new moral culture, not simply a variant of dignity culture.
Its adherents and defenders still use much of the language of dignity, as when writer Regina Rini describes the goal of microaggression reporting as "a culture in which no one is denied full moral recognition." This sounds like dignity culture, except that the implication is that even minor and unintentional slights deny people full moral recognition. The break with dignity culture is more fundamental, though. Dignity culture fights oppression by appealing to what we all have in common. Our status as human beings is what's most important about us. But victimhood culture conceives of people as victims or oppressors, and maintains that where we fall on this dimension is what's most important about us, even in our everyday relationships and interactions. And this means that victimhood culture is ultimately incompatible with the goals of the university. Pursuing truth in an environment of vigorous debate will always involve causing offense—and one of the shibboleths of victimhood culture is that it's okay to offend the oppressors but not the oppressed. Many campus activists, realizing this, have attacked the ideals of free speech and academic freedom. One of these visions will have to prevail—either dignity culture and the notion of the university as a place to pursue truth, or victimhood culture and the notion of the university as a place to pursue social justice.

Like dignity culture, though, victimhood culture is a moral culture. Moral concerns and moral emotions inspire the campus activists. Their behaviors might appear immoral to those who don't share their moral assumptions, but it would be a mistake to think the activists see it that way, or to think they're in some way hypocritical or insincere. Recognizing their moral concerns helps us understand better what Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt call vindictive protectiveness, whereby activists are simultaneously protective toward some people and vindictive toward others. This is not a contradiction, but rather a consequence of seeing the world through the lens of oppression. Just as in an honor culture people show respect for the honorable and disdain toward the cowardly, in a victimhood culture people have empathy for victims of oppression and wrath toward their oppressors.


Victimhood culture is a moral culture, and the activists who embrace it are moral actors, not part of a "snowflake generation" that can't cope with disagreement. Nor are they engaging in "political theater," as John McWhorter has suggested. "It's one thing to find views repugnant," McWhorter says. "It's another to claim that—to hear them constitute(s) a kind of injury that no reasonable person should be expected to stand up to. That's theatrical because it's not true." It might not be true, but the activists believe it. It's a departure from the values of dignity culture, so it can be hard for those immersed in dignity culture to believe the activists are sincere, but there's no reason to believe they aren't.

That victimhood culture is a moral culture, driven by ideas about right and wrong, also means it's not driven by general concerns about safety. In their otherwise superb new book, The Coddling of the American Mind, Lukianoff and Haidt wrongly describe the new campus culture as part of a "safety culture." But it's not that campus activists are afraid of taking risks; rather, they're outraged by what they see as injustice. An example from the book's first chapter actually highlights the difference. In the 1990s, parents began following medical advice to keep their young children away from peanuts. Peanut allergies were very rare at the time, but they could be deadly. The strange thing was, peanut allergies began to skyrocket after that. We now know this was precisely because children were no longer being exposed to peanuts. It turns out that early exposure to peanuts is good for most children's immune systems.

What Lukianoff and Haidt say, correctly, is that this illustrates the principle of antifragility. As with the immune system, various kinds of adversity often strengthen us. Campus activists, like the parents protecting their children from peanuts, often embrace a myth of fragility. They believe people need protection from microaggressions and conservative speakers, lest they cause them harm.

But the parents in the 1990s weren't fighting oppression, and the campus activists aren't fighting peanut allergies. The 1990s parents were following medical advice that could have been correct. Now that the evidence shows it's not, parenting practices will presumably change.

To be sure, this makes for a good parable about how trying to avoid harm can cause more harm. But when the campus activists talk about harm and safety, they're talking about the harm caused by oppression. Their concerns are moral ones, and because "morality binds and blinds," as Haidt has told us, they won't be easily persuaded by evidence against their beliefs. They've embraced a moral program that binds them to a community of fellow activists, and one that blinds them to alternative ways of viewing things. Abandoning it would require something akin to a loss of faith.

The failure to understand the new moral culture for what it is leads to an unwarranted optimism about the future of the university. This is true of many of those who are mostly sympathetic to the new culture, those who are mostly hostile to it, and those who fall somewhere in–between.

Mielestäni moneen kertaan mainostamani Lindsayn kirjoitus paneutuu juuri tuohon moraali-asiaan:

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3256744.html#msg3256744 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3256744.html#msg3256744)
https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/)

Monella on ehkä sellainen käsitys, että wokstereiden kanssa voi käydä järkevää keskustelua, ja että faktoilla ja järkevillä perusteluilla heidät voi saada ymmärtämään heidän näkemyksensä "ongelmallisuus" (heh). Ei voi. Koska näillä ihmisillä on täysin erilainen käsitys maailmasta ja moraalista. Kriittisen sosiaalisen oikeuden / uhrikulttuurin / wokeismin (rakkaalla lapsella on monta nimeä) kehittäjät kyllä tietävät, mistä tuossa on oikeasti kyse (vallasta), mutta kuten kaikissa kulteissa, ne normitoimijat ihan oikeasti uskovat siihen sontaan. Ja he eivät voi missään tilanteessa perääntyä kannoistaan / mistään kultin johtoajatuksista, koska se käytännössä romahduttaisi näiden ihmisten koko maailmankatsomuksen ja itsekäsityksen.

QuoteThree kinds of optimists

First are those who support the new culture and its various moral claims. (...)

These high profile defenses of aspects of victimhood culture should give pause to another kind of optimist, the optimistic deniers who, while not supportive of victimhood culture or its manifestations, tend to treat events like the attacks on Abrams, Weinstein, or the Christakises as isolated events. They may support free speech and academic freedom while denying these things are under attack. They may dismiss campus activists as radicals who can be ignored, and the new moral concepts as passing fads.

(...)

The third type of optimist, the optimistic critic, has a much better grasp of what's happening and why. These are people who have been observing campus trends and who understand the threat they pose. They tend to be advocates for the ideals of dignity, and they may even be actively involved in trying to save the university. Here the error is less in their diagnosis of the present than in their prognosis for the future.

Consider James Lindsay, who along with Helen Pluckrose and Peter Boghossian, recently illustrated how entrenched victimhood culture is in some fields by hoaxing a number of journals. They targeted fields like gender studies and ethnic studies, which they believe have become little more than "grievance studies" because of their "goal of problematizing aspects of culture in minute detail in order to attempt diagnoses of power imbalances and oppression rooted in identity." They were successful in getting papers published in a number of journals in these fields, including one on rape culture at a dog park that concluded men should be trained more like dogs.

The study exposed the rot in some fields, but will it help? Lindsay thinks it will, writing on Twitter that he's "virtually certain the wind has changed." He went on: "I see the wall starting to crack. I hear the whispers. People's quiet reactions to our project and the lack of being able to bully it out of existence are huge clues."

Tuosta Lindsay muistaakseni jossain haastattelussa puhuikin, että jälkeenpäin ei voinut uskoa, että mitään ei tapahtunut. Asia vaan tavallaan unohdettiin, ja wokeismi vain jatkoi leviämistään. Tuon jälkeen Lindsay onkin muuttanut toimintaansa, miten sen nyt sanoisi, vähän suorasukaisemmaksi.

QuoteConsider also Jonathan Haidt, who has done perhaps more than anyone to highlight the problems on campus. In 2015, he coauthored a journal article with five other psychologists about the problems in the field of social psychology that result from a lack of political diversity. The same year he helped start Heterodox Academy, whose goal was to promote viewpoint diversity on campuses, and with Greg Lukianoff he coauthored the Atlantic article "The Coddling of the American Mind," which argued that the concepts of microaggressions, trigger warnings, and safe spaces were likely causing psychological harm to the very people they were intended to help (jälleen, ne "konseptin" kehittäjät kyllä tiesivät tasan tarkkaan, että konseptista on lähinnä haittaa niille, joiden etuja konseptin pitäisi mukamas ajaa). And Lukianoff and Haidt later expanded the argument into this year's book of the same title, mentioned above.

Haidt wrote at the end of 2017 that he believed "2018 will be the year things begin to turn around and many more university leaders stand up and assert the values of viewpoint diversity."

Jep jep...

QuoteThe problem with optimism

(...)

What's more, victimhood culture is already spreading beyond the universities, making the case for pessimism even stronger. Corporations and government agencies, even NASA, have begun doing their own microaggression training. (...)

The rise of a new moral culture may be hard to arrest. Articles and books won't do it, but even an organization like Heterodox Academy seems to have been ineffective in its goal of increasing political diversity at universities. And maybe there's no way it could have succeeded. John Wright discusses "the problems that inevitably accompany efforts at elevating heterodox thinking within the academy," including the fact that liberals so greatly outnumber conservatives: "The Left virtually owns the institution and a fair number of professors in the humanities and social sciences view conservatives with open contempt." (...)

Tuossapa aika hyvä pointti. Vihavasurit höpöttelee, että yliopistojen toimintaan ei saa puuttua, ja "tieteen" pitää olla vapaata. Mutta kun se "tiede" ei enää ole vapaata, vaan sekopäisten woksteri-aktivistien totalitaarisessa, jopa väkivaltaisessa hallinnassa. Itse näkisin, että demokraattisesti valituilla koko yhteiskunnan johtajilla on tällaisessa tilanteessa ei vain oikeus, vaan jopa velvollisuus puuttua asiaan. Ennen kuin tilanne repeää täysin...

QuoteThe problem with despair

Of course, the danger of pessimism is that it leads to despair, which isn't really warranted either. For one thing, none of us have a crystal ball. The critical optimists could be right. Maybe things will turn around. Or maybe our efforts are ultimately doomed, but are helping preserve the academy for a little while longer. For all the problems with universities, they're still doing a lot of good. The natural sciences continue on, not yet wholly captured by the identitarian Left, and as bad as the attacks on scholarship and free speech are in the social sciences and humanities, they aren't all pervasive. (...)

Eiköhän artikkelin kirjoitusajan ja nykyhetken väliset tapahtumat ole todistaneet, että pessimismi on voittaja.

QuoteThe strength of victimhood culture

As we try, though, we need to recognize what we're up against. Misunderstanding victimhood culture has led critics of its various manifestations to underestimate its strength.

One reason victimhood culture is strong is that those who embrace it are sincere and zealous (näkisin, että "hurmahenkinen" on paras käännös tuolle). If you're shocked by events like those at Sarah Lawrence College, you probably have a moral framework very different from that of the activists. Whether you're hostile to the activists, believing they're loathsome or ridiculous, or sympathetic to them, believing they're well-meaning but misguided, you're failing to grasp this important shift.

Simply condemning them, or worse, calling them names or trying to trigger them, won't help anything. Neither will simply ignoring them until things get out of hand, as at Sarah Lawrence University. If you want to save the academy, you'll need to start by offering an alternative moral vision.

Bradley Campbell is an associate professor of sociology at California State University, Los Angeles. Follow him on Twitter @CampbellSocProf.

Itse en oikein ymmärrä tuota mitä aika moni tuntuu hokevan, että pitäisi "tarjota jokin vaihtoehto". Länsimaat ovat menneet hyvään suuntaan jo todella pitkään, valistuksen suhteen länsimaat ovat jatkuvasti kehittyneet jo monta sataa vuotta. Mutta aina välillä tulee tällaisia helvetin fanaatikko-liikkeitä, kuten natsit, kommarit ja nyt woksterit, jotka taas vähäksi aika paskoo kaiken hyvän kehityksen. Ei wokeismille tarvitse tarjota mitään vaihtoehtoa, se vaan pitäisi todeta säälittävän sekopäiseksi ja tuhoisaksi kulttiuskonnoksi, jonka levittäminen pitää estää täysin, erityisesti lasten ja nuorten koulutuksessa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 25.09.2021, 07:30:49
Tämä sopinee tänne.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 25.09.2021, 20:40:30
Quote from: Valli on 25.09.2021, 07:30:49
Tämä sopinee tänne.

Quote from: Valli on 25.09.2021, 07:30:49
This insanity is happening on college campuses

Nämä mustaihoiset naiset ovat aivan oikeassa siinä, että heillä tulisi olla oma valkoihoisista opiskelijoista vapaa tilansa, eli he kannattavat käänteistä integraatiota. Videolla valkoihoinen mies yrittää puolustautua sanomalla, että valkoisuus on kulttuuri. Mustaihoiset naiset ovat tästä eri mieltä, ja kun mustat sanovat haluavansa "abolish whiteness", eli hävittää valkoisuuden, eivät he tarkoita tällä kulttuuria vaan valkoihoisia ihmisiä.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eisernes Kreuz on 25.09.2021, 21:12:54
Mielenkiintoista seurata, aikovatko länsimaat todella tuhota korkeakoulutusjärjestelmänsä antamalla tuolle pseudotieteelliselle hevonpaskalle kaiken vallan. Jos aikovat, niin on aivan varmaa, että Kiina tulee menemään lännestä ohi kaikilla sektoreilla vielä tämän vuosisadan kuluessa.

Pseudotiede näyttäisi valtaavan yhä enemmän alaa myös luonnontieteiden parissa, ja jos vaikkapa matematiikkaa sisältävä opetus aletaan oikeasti toteuttaa hulluimpien feminististen kriteerien mukaisesti, niin sillä tulee olemaan vakavia yhteiskunnallisia seurauksia.

Ja mitä USA edellä, sitä muut länsimaat perässä. Valitettavasti.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: stefani on 25.09.2021, 21:36:50
Yritykseni saada selvää Vallin twitter-linkissä olevasta raivoamisesta:

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You are offensive. "Police lives matter"?

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But this is our space!

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You are making this space uncomfortable!

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But you are white! Do you understand what a multicultural space is? It means you are not being centered!

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This white man thinks he can take up our space, and this is why we need a multicultural space, because they think they can get away with this shit!

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... every single part of the campus centers you. This is the only space that you are not centered, and you are still trying to center so... which is pig whitist male bullshit!!!

Mitä varten nuo käyttävät "center" sanaa tuolla tavoin? Mulle tuli tunne, että tuossa on kyse jonkin kultin sisäisestä slangista / jargonista, jota kultin ulkopuolisten on vaikeaa ymmärtää. Vai kuulinko tuossa jotain väärin?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kekkeruusi on 25.09.2021, 22:09:35
Toisetkin ihmiset halusivat rotueroteltoja tiloja joskus aiemmin. Ilmeisesti näiden multikultien mielestä siihen pitäisi palata takaisin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 25.09.2021, 23:39:09
Nyt kyllä alkaa mennä tämä marxismin uudempi teoria todella mystiseksi. Mitä helvettiä tarkoittaa kriittinen sosiaalinen tai yhteiskunnallinen oikeudenmukaisuus? Does not compute. Sorry. Blue screen of death.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 26.09.2021, 02:03:10
Sitä että valkoiset vapaaehtoiset menevät eteen ihmispanssariksi kun oikeutetut marssivat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.09.2021, 01:04:52
Saataisiinkohan tuota järkeä vähän tänne Suomeenkin? No ei, kun rakkaan hallituksemme kiihkoilijat ajavat täyttä vauhtia juuri päinvastaiseen suuntaan. Koska "lasten oikeudet" olemme täysin valmiita tuhoamaan lasten elämiä sekopäisen ideologiamme edistämiseksi.

Käännös / lainaukset on siis otettu tuosta genspectin jutusta. Lainausten määrä ylittää aika räikeästi Homman suuntalinjat, mutta kun tuo itsestä tuntuu enemmänkin avoimelta kirjeeltä.

https://genspect.org/france-says-non-to-gender-ideology/ (https://genspect.org/france-says-non-to-gender-ideology/)
https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/idees-et-debats/changement-de-sexe-chez-les-enfants-nous-ne-pouvons-plus-nous-taire-face-a-une-grave-derive_2158725.html (https://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/idees-et-debats/changement-de-sexe-chez-les-enfants-nous-ne-pouvons-plus-nous-taire-face-a-une-grave-derive_2158725.html)

QuoteSex change in children: "We can no longer remain silent in the face of a serious societal shift"

(...)

Associated with the Observatory of ideological discourses on children and teenagers, a collective of childcare professionals and researchers (doctors, psychiatrists, psychoanalysts, lawyers, magistrates, teachers of the National Education, philosophers, sociologists, etc.), some fifty professionals are protesting against the idea of "self-determination" of the child which they believe legitimizes a sharp increase in requests for sex change, particularly among teenagers.

(edellä pohjustusta, poppoon varsinainen kirjoitus alkaa tästä)

We can no longer remain silent about what appears to us as a serious societal shift committed in the name of the emancipation of the "transgender child" (one who declares that he or she was not born in the "right body"). On the argument that "feelings" equal truth, radical rhetoric has legitimized the requests for sex change. But it is at the price of a lifelong medical and even surgical treatment (removal of breasts or testicles) on children or teenagers' bodies. It is this phenomenon and its strong media impact that concerns us and not the choices of transgender adults.

Perhaps thinking it provided a response to this phenomena, the Scottish government has issued new guidelines for LGBT inclusion, effective since August 12, which says that, from the age of entry into primary school, children will be able to change their name and sex at school without their parents' consent. Without their consent and even without their knowledge if the child requests it.

Children are led to believe that a girl can become a boy and vice versa because they have decided to do so without the advice of adults, and this, at an increasingly young age.

What is happening in neighbouring countries could very quickly happen in France: the diffusion of these beliefs has resulted in a considerable inflation of requests for sex reassignment among children and more particularly among adolescent girls. According to Jean Chambry, a child psychiatrist in charge of the CIAPA (Intersectoral Center for Adolescents in Paris), nearly ten years ago, there were about ten requests per year; in 2020, it was ten requests per month (and only for the Ile-de-France region). (siis noin 12-kertainen kasvu...) He speaks of a worrying acceleration of medical responses to these transition requests.

Some claim that we could do without biological reality, the sexual differences between men and women, in favor of chosen characteristics based solely on "feelings." These unfounded claims are transmitted via social networks where many teenagers in search of identity come to look for solutions to their malaise. In the name of "self-determination" — a slogan that appeals to all progressives — I am free to choose the body I want — children and teenagers are convinced that they can change their sex with the help of hormonal treatments or even mutilating surgery. This rhetoric, spread by activists in many Western countries, uses sophistries designed to deceive.

Stolen Childhood


How did we get here? And do we, the undersigned, have the right to react without being insulted or threatened? In what way would these rights to self-determination be a progress conducive to human fulfilment? This phenomenon, the "transgender child," is in reality a contemporary deceit that must be vigorously denounced because it is due to ideological indoctrination. Some would like us to believe that in the name of the well-being and freedom of each person, a child, freed from the oversight of his "reactionary" parents, would be able to "choose" his so-called gendered identity.

But children are beings in construction, constantly changing before they reach maturity. Neuroscientists, developmentalists, psychoanalysts, child psychiatrists, pediatricians, and all specialists in early childhood are unanimous on this subject.

Children, and even more so teenagers, are now under the influence of a set of beliefs that lead to mental destabilization, a rupture with the family if it does not support the child, and with all those who refuse to share this point of view. This ideological grip generates an anti-social and accusatory rhetoric, a specific language, or even a newspeak imposed on everyone around them. The language of these young people is often scripted as if they had lost all critical thinking (which is a characteristic of this grip). 

We denounce this abduction of childhood. It is now urgent to inform the greatest number of citizens, of all professions, of all allegiances, of all ages, about what could be tomorrow one of the greatest health and ethical scandals that we could have watched happen without saying a word: the commodification (hyödyntäminen, kaupallistaminen) of children's bodies. Because by persuading these children that they have been "assigned" a sex at birth, and that they can freely change it, we make them lifelong patients: lifelong consumers of hormonal chemicals marketed by pharmaceutical companies, recurrent consumers of more and more surgeries in the pursuit of the chimerical dream of a fantasy body. (...)

(...)

Confusion reigns, largely maintained for the purpose of manipulating people in the most profound way: their evolution, their temporality, their wanderings, and their doubts. (...)

No, in the name of the protection of children we definitely can no longer remain silent! We refuse that, under the guise of "human rights," one challenges our commonalities – the universalism of rights – which constitutes the foundation of humanity. 

Signatories

Nicole Athéa (endocrinologist-gynecologist), Elisabeth Badinter (philosopher), Anne-Laure Boch (neurosurgeon, Hôpital de la Salpêtrière), Thierry Baranger (honorary magistrate, former president of the children's courts of Paris and Bobigny), Marie-Jo Bonnet (historian, writer), Jean-François Braunstein (philosopher, professor at the University Panthéon Sorbonne), Anna Cognet (cllinical psychologist), Alain Cornec (lawyer), Laurence Croix (lecturer at the University of Nanterre), Chantal Delsol (philosopher, member of the Academy of Moral and Political Sciences,), Bernard Devauchelle, (professor of medicine and head of the maxillofacial surgery department of Amiens University Hospital), Marie Josèphe Devillers (lesbian feminist activist), Christine Le Doaré (lawyer, feminist activist), Catherine Dolto, (haptotherapist), Corinne Ehrenberg (psychoanalyst), Caroline Eliacheff (child psychiatrist, psychoanalyst), Xavier Emmanuelli (doctor, president of Samu Social international), Nicole Farges (psychologist, psychoanalyst), Natalie Felzenszwalbe (honorary lawyer), Isabelle Ferrari (co-founder of AMQG (Measured approach to gender issues among young people) in Geneva), Christian Flavigny (child psychiatrist, psychoanalyst), Esther Fouchier (President of the Mediterranean Women's Forum), Pascale Fourcade (psychiatrist), René Frydman (professor of medicine), Delphine Girard (professor of classical letters in college, activist), Bernard Golse (child psychiatrist, psychoanalyst (APF), professor emeritus of child and adolescent psychiatry, University of Paris), Julie Gosselin (computer scientist, feminist), Nadia Guenet (director of the radio show "The Revolution will be feminist") , Liliane Kandel (sociologist, feminist, member of the editorial board of Modern Times), Annick Karsenty (president of the association of "femmes solidaires" in Marseille), Aaron Kimberly (Gender Dysphoria Alliance, Canada), Frédérique Kuttenn (former head of the department of endocrinology and reproductive medicine at the Pitié-Salpêtrière hospital), Rhadija Lamrani Tissot (psychoanalyst, linguist), Jean-Pierre Lebrun (psychiatrist, psychoanalyst), Manuel Maidenberg (pediatrician), Danièle Manesse (linguist, researcher in language teaching, Sorbonne-Nouvelle University), Céline Masson (university professor), Martine de Maximy (honorary magistrate, former juvenile judge), Isabelle de Mecquenem (associate professor of philosophy, member of the council of elders of secularism), Scott Newgent (TReVoices), Sylvie Quesemand Zucca (doctor, psychiatrist), Gérard Rabinovitch (philosopher, sociologist), Jean-Pierre Rosenczveig (former president of the Bobigny Children's Court), Hana Rottman (pediatrician, child psychiatrist), Olivia Sarton (lawyer), Dominique Schnapper (sociologist, political scientist), Myriam Szejer (child psychiatrist), Sonia Timsit (psychiatrist, psychoanalyst), Claire Squires (lecturer, University of Paris), Samuel Veissière (anthropologist and professor of transcultural psychiatry at McGill University in Montreal), Jean-Pierre Winter (psychoanalyst), WHRC-France (Women Human Rights Campaign (Droits des femmes fondés sur le sexe).
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 28.09.2021, 15:53:52
Quote from: Eisernes Kreuz on 25.09.2021, 21:12:54
Mielenkiintoista seurata, aikovatko länsimaat todella tuhota korkeakoulutusjärjestelmänsä antamalla tuolle pseudotieteelliselle hevonpaskalle kaiken vallan. Jos aikovat, niin on aivan varmaa, että Kiina tulee menemään lännestä ohi kaikilla sektoreilla vielä tämän vuosisadan kuluessa.

Pseudotiede näyttäisi valtaavan yhä enemmän alaa myös luonnontieteiden parissa, ja jos vaikkapa matematiikkaa sisältävä opetus aletaan oikeasti toteuttaa hulluimpien feminististen kriteerien mukaisesti, niin sillä tulee olemaan vakavia yhteiskunnallisia seurauksia.

Ja mitä USA edellä, sitä muut länsimaat perässä. Valitettavasti.

Tästä herää kysymys mikä pakko muiden länsimaiden on tuijottaa USA:an ja tehdä just samat jutut. Onnistuisiko amerikkalaisen kulttuurin kielto ja suhteiden katkaisu amerikkalaisiin yliopistoihin. Ainakin tarvitaan tietoiset päätökset siitä että woke ja muu amerikkalainen kulttuurisota kielletään omissa yliopistoissa ja muissa akateemisissa instituutioissa. Omistajalla ja maksajalla eli valtiolla eli veronmaksajajilla on oikeus päättää mitä yliopistossa tutkitaan ja opetetaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.09.2021, 02:24:58
Tämä Rufon (kohtuullisen pitkä) kirjoitus keväältä pääsi näköjään livahtamaan ohi, mutta parempi myöhään kuin ei milloinkaan.

https://www.city-journal.org/critical-race-theory-portland-public-schools (https://www.city-journal.org/critical-race-theory-portland-public-schools)

QuoteThe Child Soldiers of Portland
Public schools are training children to become race-conscious revolutionaries.
Christopher F. Rufo

There are only a few places on earth where radicals and their children ritualistically burn the American flag and chant "Death to America": Tehran, Baghdad, Beirut, Kabul, Ramallah—and Portland, Oregon. (tuskin tuo Portland tosin enää ainoa paikka ole USAssa)

(...) Last summer, protesters associated with Antifa upped the ante with chants of "Death to America" and participated in months of violent protests to avenge the death of George Floyd while he was in police custody in Minneapolis. Children as young as four marched with the crowd to the federal courthouse, raising the Black Power fist and chanting "Fuck the Police!"

Famously the "whitest city in America," Portland has become the unlikely headquarters of race radicalism in the United States. The city has elevated white guilt into a civic religion; its citizens have developed rituals, devotions, and self-criticisms to fight "systemic racism" and "white supremacy." The culminating expression of this orthodoxy is violence: street militias, calling themselves "antiracists" and "antifascists," smash windows and torch the property of anyone transgressing the new moral law.

We might be tempted to dismiss this as the work of a few harmless radicals "keeping Portland weird," but in recent years, their underlying ideology on race has become institutionalized. The city government has adopted a series of Five-Year Plans for "equity and inclusion," shopkeepers have posted political slogans in their windows as a form of protection, and local schools have designed a program of political education for their students that borders on propaganda.

I have spent months investigating the structure of political education in three Portland-area school districts: Tigard-Tualatin School District, Beaverton School District, and Portland Public Schools. I have cultivated sources within each district and obtained troves of internal documents related to the curriculum, training, and internal dynamics of these institutions. We can best understand the political education program in Portland schools by dividing it into three parts: theory, praxis (or practice), and power. The schools have self-consciously adopted the "pedagogy of the oppressed" (Paolo Freiden sontateoksen vaikuttavuudesta juttua aiemmassa vastauksessa: https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3296486.html#msg3296486 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3296486.html#msg3296486), tuo on myös kaikkien Suomen yliopistojen psykopaattisten vihavasurien lemppari, tietenkin piip piip piip Foucaltin ohella) as their theoretical orientation, activated it through a curriculum of critical race theory, and enforced it through the appointment of de facto political officers within individual schools, generally under the cover of "equity and social-justice" programming. In short, they have begun to replace education with activism.

The results are predictable. By perpetuating the narrative that America is fundamentally evil, steeping children in race theory, and lionizing the Portland rioters, they have consciously pushed students in the direction of race-based "revolution." In the language of the Left, the political education programs in Portland-area districts constitute a "school-to-radicalism pipeline": a training ground for child soldiers. This is not hyperbole: some of the most active and violent anarchist groups in Portland are run by teenagers, and dozens of minors were arrested during last year's riots. These groups have taken up the mantle of climate change, anticapitalism, antifascism, and Black Lives Matter—whatever provides a pretext for violent "direct action."

(...) Demographically, Tigard is not diverse; it numbers only 636 blacks out of a total population of 52,368, making up approximately 1 percent of residents.

Nonetheless, educators at the Tigard-Tualatin School District have gone all-in on the social-justice trinity of "diversity, equity, and inclusion." Last June, at the height of the nationwide unrest, Superintendent Sue Rieke-Smith and Board Chair Maureen Wolf signed a proclamation "condemning racism and committing to being an anti-racist school district." The preamble to the document recited the names of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery (Daniel Shaver???! Tony Timpa???! Jeremy Mardis???! (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3207964.html#msg3207964 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3207964.html#msg3207964))), and confessed that the district's "students of color, and Black students in particular, still regularly experience racism in [their] schools." To rectify this, the superintendent pledged to become "actively anti-racist," "dismantle systemic racism," implement a "collective equity framework," establish "pillars for equity," deploy "Equity Teams" within schools, create racially segregated "Student Affinity Groups," and use "an equity lens for all future curriculum adoptions."

The next month, the district announced a new Department of Equity and Inclusion and installed social-justice activist Zinnia Un as director. Un quickly created a blueprint, which I have obtained through a whistle-blower, for overhauling the pedagogy and curriculum at Tigard-Tualatin schools. The document calls for adopting the educational theories of Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire, whose "pedagogy of the oppressed" (summarized in a 1968 book with that title) was originally designed to instill "critical consciousness" among impoverished South Americans and to forge the conditions for overthrowing the dictatorial governments of the era. (See "Pedagogy of the Oppressor," Spring 2009.) Following Freire's categorizations, Un writes that the Tigard-Tualatin school district must move from a state of "reading the world" to the phase of "denunciation" against the revolution's enemies and, finally, to the state of "annunciation" of the liberated masses, who will begin "rewriting the world."

    "At the final stage, trainers plumb their subjects' psyches to ensure that 'whiteness' has been banished."

In her blueprint, Un describes the new oppressor as an amalgamation of "whiteness," "colorblindness," "individualism," and "meritocracy." These are the values of capitalist society—but for Un, they are the values of white society, the primary impediment to social justice.

What is the solution to pathological whiteness? According to Un and the Tigard-Tualatin School District, the answer lies with a new form of "white identity development." In a series of "antiracist resources" provided to teachers, the Department of Equity and Inclusion includes a handful of strategies for this identity transformation, intended to "facilitate growth for white folks to become allies, and eventually accomplices, for anti-racist work." Couched in the language of professional development, the process assumes that whites are born "racist," even if they "don't purposely or consciously act in a racist way." The first step in the training document is "contact," defined as confronting whites with "active racism or real-world experiences that highlight their whiteness." The goal is to provoke an emotional rupture that brings the subject to the next step, "disintegration," in which he or she feels intense "white guilt" and "white shame," and admits: "I feel bad for being white." The training then outlines a process of moving white subjects from a state of "reintegration" to "pseudo-independence" to "immersion" to "autonomy."

In the early stages, activities include "attending a training, joining an allies group, participating in a protest." Later, white subjects are told to analyze their "covert white supremacy," host "difficult conversations with white friends and family about racism," and use their "privilege to support anti-racist work." At the final stage, trainers plumb their subjects' individual psyches to ensure that their "whiteness" has been banished. Subjects must answer a series of questions to demonstrate their commitment: "Does your solidarity make you lose sleep at night? Does your solidarity put you in danger? Does your solidarity cost you relationships? Does your solidarity make you suspicious of predominantly white institutions? Does your solidarity have room for Black rage?"

This is a pedagogy not of education but of revolution. It's also textbook cult indoctrination: convince initiates of their fundamental guilt; present a remedy through participation in the group; manipulate emotions to achieve compliance; identify and organize against an amorphous scapegoat; demand total loyalty to the new orthodoxy; proselytize through personal circles; isolate from old friends and family; and keep the ultimate solution always out of reach. A veteran teacher who requested anonymity, out of fear of reprisals, told me that the "big change" happened when the new superintendent and equity and inclusion director took over the district. Immediately, the focus shifted from academics to politics, and employees were expected to fall in line with the new ideology. The teacher described one professional-development training that left some of her colleagues in a neighboring school devastated: "They had teachers actually crying because of their 'whiteness.' "

Which brings us to the last plank in Tigard-Tualatin's antiracism program: enforcement. As soon as Un took over as equity and inclusion director, she formulated a new "hate speech" policy designed not just to prevent truly discriminatory speech but also to pathologize any political opposition to the new order. The cultural cues in the district are clear: teachers must support Black Lives Matter protests and oppose anything that smacks of conservatism.

"I almost feel like we're walking around on eggshells. You have to be careful what you say," a veteran teacher told me. "I'm afraid of speaking up for fear I might lose my job. . . . I mean, what would happen if I said I'm a conservative Republican Christian? How would that go?" When I asked how the new political education program had affected her personally, her voice broke: "I don't want go back to work. I don't believe in this. It goes against my faith system. . . . We're all created as equals in God's sight, and this is just wrong, the way we're teaching our children. I don't have to be embarrassed because of my skin color."

(...)

The internal documents for the Oregon Department of Education make it quite clear that the point of ethnic studies is not academic achievement; it's "social change." Education is the means; politics is the end.

(...)

Meantime, Portland Public Schools has institutionalized the philosophy of social justice and codified political activism into every aspect of the bureaucracy. In the district's 2019 Racial Equity and Social Justice Plan, the administration pledged to make "antiracism" the district's "North Star" and to create "an education system that intentionally disrupts—and builds leaders to disrupt—systems of oppression." The superintendent hired a new equity czar and announced a "Five-Year Racial Equity Plan," which promises a dizzying array of acronyms and academic catchphrases like "intersectionality" and "targeted universalism."

    "Portland Public Schools has codified political activism into every aspect of the bureaucracy."

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In one recent antiracism session, this teacher had to participate in a "line of oppression" exercise. The trainers lined up the teachers and shouted out various injustices (racism, homophobia, and so on), and asked teachers who would suffer from these harms to step forward. The trainers then divided the room into oppressed and oppressors, with straight white men and women forced to reckon with their identity in the oppressor category. The objective, according to the teacher, was to intimidate white teachers into submission through collective guilt and fear of being labeled a racist.

The ideology of "antiracism" has permeated every department in the district. Even educators in the English as a Second Language (ESL) program have begun teaching the principles of critical race theory to immigrants and refugees. According to a document that I obtained, ESL teachers are told to develop "counterstories" to the dominant American culture and to focus instruction on "advocacy for racial equity for emergent bilingual/multilingual students." As part of the curriculum, they are asked to teach immigrants that "racism in the USA is pervasive and operates like the air we breathe" and that "civil rights gains for people of color should be interpreted with measured enthusiasm." (...)

How does all this translate in the classroom? At Forest Park, Whitman, and Marysville elementary schools, a teacher named Sarita Flores, who runs the information technology program, has transformed her role into that of a political inquisitor. According to leaked internal documents and whistle-blower testimony, Flores holds weekly "antiracism" sessions in which white teachers are expected to remain silent, "honor the feelings of BIPOC"—black, indigenous, and people of color—and "make space for and amplify BIPOC educators." In presentations resembling Soviet-era struggle sessions, Flores instructs teachers that they must "deepen [their] political analysis of racism and oppression" and "start healing with public apologies about [their] racism and then go back and apologize through an audit through an anti-racist lens." During one of these sessions, Flores hosted an exercise resembling Orwell's Two Minutes Hate, in which minority teachers were allowed 90 seconds to berate their white colleagues. (...)

For Flores and other teachers in the social-justice wing of Portland Public Schools, the only solution is revolution. During one presentation to teachers, Flores claimed that "an educator in a system of oppression is either a revolutionary or an oppressor." In a folder hosted on the district website, Flores shared a meme with teachers that justified the ongoing political violence in Portland: "The root cause of every riot is some kind of oppression. If you want to end the riots, you have to end the oppression. If you want to end a riot without ending its root cause, your agenda isn't about peace and justice—it's about silencing and control."

(Voi kun kiinnostaisi tietää Floresin mielipide esim. natsilippujen heilutteluun... Ei kun niin, Floresin mielestä pitää ensin käydä väkivaltaiseksi, sitten on vasta sorrettu, jolla luonnollisesti on oikeus tehdä ihan mitä tahansa. Ja siinä lippujen höpöheiluttelussa kun ei edes rikottu mitään lakia. Mikä ei teitenkään taas estä poliisiosastojemme parhaita toiminaan siten, kuin olisi rikottu)

(...)

By high school, the basic education about "skin color" and "justice fighters" turns into advanced race theory and live-action street protesting. At Lincoln High, a wealthy public school with only 1 percent black student enrollment, some students take two full years of "critical race studies." The courses, taught by Jessica Mallare-Best, begin with training on racial identity, white supremacy, institutional racism, and racial empowerment, with the goal of providing "methods in which students can begin to be activists and allies for change." The following year, students take two semesters of critical race theory—studying white fragility, intersectionality, "whiteness as property," "the permanence of racism," "collective organizing," and "being an activist," with an eye toward training them to "do [their] part in dismantling white supremacy." The abstract becomes concrete, theory is transformed into action, and the young people of Portland come of age steeped in race analysis and revolutionary logic.

The next step is obvious. Children, endowed with conviction in their own moral purity, head to the front lines. In 2018, Ockley Green Middle School invited "police abolitionist" Teressa Raiford to hold an assembly on social justice, after which she led hundreds of students into the streets to perform a "die-in" in the middle of an intersection—without seeking permission from or notifying their parents. During the Floyd protests, the teacher- and student-led protests accelerated. Children as young as five held a mock protest at Sabin Elementary School and raised the Black Power fist alongside their teachers. Middle school students in northeast Portland led a public march advocating for defunding the police. High school students marched through a neighborhood in southwest Portland—"the whitest part of the city"—demanding that residents provide "reparations" to blacks.

(...)

Violence has followed. The Youth Liberation Front, one of the most active and violent protest groups in Portland, was founded by teenagers and has recruited hundreds of young people to fight against the American regime. The group is organized into autonomous cells to avoid law-enforcement infiltration and has armed itself with shields, weapons, gas masks, and explosives. The group organized a walkout of Portland high schools and then rioted for more than 100 consecutive nights following George Floyd's death. "We are a bunch of teenagers armed with ADHD and yerba mate," the group declared on social media. "We can take a 5 a.m. raid and be back on our feet a few hours later. We'll be back again and again until every prison is reduced to ashes and every wall to rubble." (...)

Their teachers, too, have immersed themselves in the destruction. (...)

    "We have reached the strange reality in which the state, through education, agitates for its own destruction."

(...)

Educators and parents in Portland are playing with fire. They have filled the heads of the young with dark visions of America (ja ilmastokatasrofista ja ties mistä) and then told them to find fulfillment through revolution. But that revolution is devoid of positive values; it is a war of negation, destruction, and death. The child soldiers have been promised "a new world from the ashes," but the real outcome, if they get their way, would be a world of ruin—cold, empty, and salted over. It's hard not to see this as a cynical game: teachers and administrators, ensconced in the public bureaucracy and secured by the public trust, engage in an absurd theater of cultural Marxism, spinning stories about the "pedagogy of the oppressed" to their privileged, suburban, predominantly white students. For all the talk about "liberation" and "critical consciousness," they are indoctrinating these children in a profoundly pessimistic worldview, in which racism and oppression pervade every institution, with no way out but revolution.

(...)

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Ja vielä katsausta wokstereiden todellisiin motiiveihin (pitää olla aika saatanaan naiivi hyödyllinen idiootti uskoakseen, että näiden päällimmäinen tavoite olisi parantaa jonkin ihmisryhmän tilannetta kokonaisuutena. Jos olisi, niin varmasti voisivat esittää roppakaupalla todisteita ympäri maailmaa, missä kyseinen ideologia on johtanut hyvään lopputulokseen (sitä kun on yritetty aika monta kertaa). Mutta kun ei ole. Thomas Sowellkaan ei löytänyt yhtä ainutta. Vastakkaisia esimerkkejä kyllä löysi sieltä sun täällä, "kevyestä tuhosta" täydelliseen sisällissotaan.

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Ja elitistisontiaisten tukeen tähän liikkeeseen liittyen voisi vielä liittää tämän, yli 200 vuotta vanhan (tai ainakin 140 vuotta...) lausahduksen. Suurelle osalle liittoutuminen totalitaristiwokstereiden kanssa luonnollisesti lisää valtaa ja mammonaa, mikä lienee pääsyy, mutta jollain erityisen hulluilla yksilöillä motivaattori voi olla myös tämä:

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QuoteCharacters discuss the "radicals of the upper class" and how their "progressive ideas are their biggest luxury. They make them feel moral and yet don't damage their position."

It was published in 1881

Toivoisin, että Supokin heräisi ajoissa siihen todelliseen vaaraan, mutta historian kokemusten perusteella Supo on muutaman vuoden päästä kaikista pahiten wokstereiden saastuttama virasto.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.09.2021, 14:01:58
Kun asia pitää tiivistää 60 sekuntiin, niin tuo on ihan hyvä suoritus.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: F1nka on 30.09.2021, 20:39:08
Hieman teoreettisempaa kulmaa, sattuis silmään etsiessäni jotain muuta:
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Critical Theory, Conspiracy, and "Gullible Critique"

Abstract
There are important similarities between conspiracy theories and academic discourses referred to variously as 'critique', 'critical theory', 'genealogy', and 'the hermeneutics of suspicion'. Like conspiracy theories, critical academic discourses have their passionate advocates. But these discourses also carry an air of disrepute in broader academic circles. In a trenchant 2004 essay Bruno Latour expressed a set of worries about the intellectual respectability of "critique" centered on the resemblance between critique and conspiracy theories. I develop this line of thinking by calling attention to formal features that examples of "critique" can share with conspiracy theories, positioning both types of discourse within the broader category of "suspicious explanation". I conclude by offering an account of what might be meant by Latour's reference to "gullible critique".
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-44606-2_8 (https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-44606-2_8)

Suomeksi: Löysin abstraktin artikkelista, jossa vertaillaan salaliittoteorioita kriittisen teorian näkökulmaan maailmasta. Vielä kun saisi jostain koko jutun tai hennoisi tuon ostaa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 01.10.2021, 03:22:40
Eukko alkoi opiskelemaan uutta alaa ja siellä on queer-arkeologiaa, feminismi sitä ja tätä, ensimmäisenä opetettiin sukupuolia olevan lukuisia. Surullista nähdä omin silmin miten tämä syöpä on vallannut koko koululaitoksemme. Hän vihaa tuota paskaa yhtä paljon kuin minä, saa nähdä kauan jaksaa koko yliopistoa :roll:

Quote from: F1nka on 30.09.2021, 20:39:08
Suomeksi: Löysin abstraktin artikkelista, jossa vertaillaan salaliittoteorioita kriittisen teorian näkökulmaan maailmasta. Vielä kun saisi jostain koko jutun tai hennoisi tuon ostaa.
Tuossa näyttäisi olevan: https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/978-3-030-44606-2

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: F1nka on 01.10.2021, 08:19:57
^Kriittinen teoria on aika vahvasti edustettu ainakin Jyväskylässä. Humanistisissa aineissa kannattaa varautua kirjoittamaan myönteistä soopaa feminismistä ja kriittisen "teorian" suurista nimistä. Oma ajattelu voi olla kurssiarvosanoja ajatellen vaarallista.

Tapio Puolimatka näyttää kadonneen Jyväskylän yliopiston sivuilta. En ole hänen kanssaan samaa mieltä kaikessa, mutta on tervehdyttävää lukea myös poikkeuksellisia näkökulmia ja haastaa omaa ajattelua.
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Post by: zupi on 01.10.2021, 14:36:08
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QuoteAs these acts of malice, violence, and threats against public school officials have increased, the classification of these heinous actions could be the equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes. As such, NSBA requests a joint expedited review by the U.S. Departments of Justice, Education, and Homeland Security, along with the appropriate training, coordination, investigations, and enforcement mechanisms from the FBI, including any technical assistance necessary from, and state and local coordination with, its National Security Branch and Counterterrorism Division, as well as any other federal agency with relevant jurisdictional authority and oversight. Additionally, NSBA requests that such review examine appropriate enforceable actions against these crimes and acts of violence under the Gun-Free School Zones Act, the PATRIOT Act in regards to domestic terrorism, the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, the Violent Interference with Federally Protected Rights statute, the Conspiracy Against Rights statute, an Executive Order to enforce all applicable federal laws for the protection of students and public school district personnel, and any related measure. As the threats grow and news of extremist hate organizations showing up at school board meetings is being reported, this is a critical time for a proactive approach to deal with this difficult issue.

https://www.nsba.org/-/media/NSBA/File/nsba-letter-to-president-biden-concerning-threats-to-public-schools-and-school-board-members-92921.pdf (https://www.nsba.org/-/media/NSBA/File/nsba-letter-to-president-biden-concerning-threats-to-public-schools-and-school-board-members-92921.pdf)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 03.10.2021, 13:13:45
Ihan mielenkiintoinen tiivistys.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.10.2021, 12:44:37
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https://pitt.substack.com/p/dear-doctor (https://pitt.substack.com/p/dear-doctor)

Kirje kokonaisuudessaan, eiköhän tuo "julkseksi" ole tarkoitettu.

PITT = Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans

QuoteDear Doctor,
Letter written to Dr. XXXXX...no response received


I am the mother of a child who suddenly claimed a transgender identity and became swiftly medicalized — meaning prescribed wrong sex hormones and surgeries to treat gender dysphoria, without any in-depth exploration. I came across your name while researching gender ideology and your background in bioethics seems well-suited to my story and the information that I am here sharing.

I am not seeking your help; sadly I have come to realize there is little to no help available for parents like myself. I am a mere representative of the many thousands of parents who have had their child medicalized in as little as one visit to a gender affirming medical establishment. I have previously spoken with many professionals highly critical of the latest fad in psychiatry of accepting patients' self-diagnosis of 'gender dysphoria' and then being ushered into transition. Parents have connected via social media platforms and organizations across the US and internationally and we hail from all political and religious affiliations. I am sharing the truth of gender identity medicine today as our family and countless others have experienced it.

Since Lisa Littman's work in 2018 first exposed the possibility that social contagion could be at play in the sky-rocketing numbers of transgender identified youth, this topic has been continuously lauded and glorified by the media. Considering there are close to 40k young women wanting 'top surgery' (a euphemism for non-medically necessary breast amputation) today on GoFundMe, it seems that Littman was on to something. Certainly, this is not normal.

The industry today is light years away from the time when anabolic steroids first came on to the market and doctors and patients began to dabble in altering the human body to take on the appearance of the opposite sex. Now, the fact that Paul McHugh shuttered the gender identity clinic at Johns Hopkins in the 1970's because transition did not benefit the patient population has been lost to history.

Fast forward to 2021 and the industry that used to be in back alleyways is exploding like never before. The affirmation model is now the norm and most medical institutions have established guidelines to push patients into the pipeline of gender medicine, while laws are being passed to deter any counseling for gender confused patients. The fact that there is so little help for families like ours does not prove that the affirmation model is sound healthcare. All the parents I have connected to know that it is not. Our children are in harm's way and we are desperately trying to organize to save them from unnecessary mental and physical harm.

I have been experiencing this contagion first hand. My college-aged daughter was prescribed testosterone and, a mere few months later, she had her breasts amputated. There is nothing that could have prepared our family for this tragedy that is still unfolding. To know our daughter would be to think up is down, black is white or that Mickey Mouse is real. She was gender conforming, had mostly female friends her entire life, meets none of the criteria for gender dysphoria as laid out in the DSM-5, and had little interest in stereotypical masculine activities at all. Our daughter was extremely gifted, highly creative, an AP student throughout high school, and involved in countless activities.

Now, she has been indoctrinated to join the cult of gender ideology. She has severed ties with all family members, save for some tenuous contact with a sibling. Can this possibly be medical care? She was encouraged by her like-minded peers, harbored by her university and swiftly led down the rabbit hole of transgender medicine to either be a patient for life or to one day wake up and decide to reconvene in a body that has been harmed for life. And, if she chooses this latter path, no medical assistance will be forthcoming. Gender transition assistance these days is a one-way path.

There are thousands of parents living this nightmare and I've met many of them. Our stories are eerily similar and yet we read lie after lie in the mainstream media that we are bigots, transphobes, 'terfs' and other names, many too despicable to mention. We read that we have disowned our children, when the opposite is often true. We are lied to by educators and the medical community who are hellbent on creating transgender youth. We read the lies that only adults get surgeries or that our children have gone through rigorous psychological counseling. Neither of these is true. Some parents have even lost their children in the court of law when they question this supposed 'care.'

The political and pharmaceutical ties to this narrative are blatant. Our children are seen as specimens for a social experiment. The suicide card that is played has been debunked as many times as it is played and yet the card continues to be played on repeat. We know that the only long-term study ever completed actually shows a 19 times greater risk of suicide AFTER transition. I believe this is likely an underestimation, as the cohort in this study was far different from today's trans-identified patients, who are younger and largely female. It would not be a stretch to say the harms could be far greater.

As parents, we have lobbied Congress, pushed for bills in various states to hold doctors accountable and to quell this gross social contagion. We have pushed for advocacy in schools, churches and the like against the radical indoctrination into gender ideology. We keep our fingers on the pulse of this exploding medical scandal as more and more desisters and detransitioners come forth with their stories, as more and more countries begin to question their practices and pull back the veil on transgender medicine. Here in North America, we are living in the gender medicine capital of the world, with more clinics than any other country. This article speaks accurately of the totalitarian regime I have witnessed under the guise of 'healthcare.'

Imagine how this would turn your personal life upside down if the child you raised suddenly claimed an opposite sex identity? Imagine knowing the actual risk of suicide and having a child who has shut you out of their life? I live in fear for my daughter and other young people across this country where mutilating body parts is increasingly becoming second nature. There are even surgeries and hormones for "non-binary" identifying people now. None of this makes any sense. I fear for families that are as of yet unaware of the dangers that loom. I can say firsthand that this social contagion does not discriminate and, by all appearances, our government is dead set on creating more and more casualties.

While fully realizing the contentious nature of this issue and the work you do, I would be grateful for the opportunity to share my personal story. I have repeatedly witnessed the reactions from parent's firsthand accounts as most people do not realize what is really happening.

Follow up: The author of this letter received NO REPLY.

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QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

People who make an identity out of being compassionate are dangerous.
1:37 AM · Sep 27, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Before overreacting read what I have actually written. People who make an *identity* out of being a compassionate person.

Not compassionate people.

They are not the same thing.

1:51 AM · Sep 27, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

The more woke a person gets, the more blind they seem to be to themselves.

4:02 AM · Oct 4, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Be careful not to convince yourself you're a good person.

You never know what horrors you might excuse yourself for because of it.

4:24 AM · Oct 4, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.10.2021, 22:00:28
Kovat tieteenalat kyykkää myös.

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Quote1/ Dorian Abbot is a geophysicist at the University of Chicago. He was to give MIT's prestigious Carlson Lecture on Oct. 21. The topic was to be climates of extrasolar planets. Shamefully, MIT canceled the lecture under pressure from activists who objected to his political views.

2/ Those who pressured MIT to cancel Dr. Abbot's lecture oppose his views on "diversity, equity, and inclusion": https://newsweek.com/diversity-problem-campus-opinion-1618419. As you can see, these have nothing to do with the topic of his Carlson Lecture. The activists cancel anyone who dissents from their dogmas.

3/ It is impossible to exaggerate how disgraceful MIT's capitulation to a mob's demands to cancel Dr. Dorian Abbot's lecture is. That he was qualified on the basis of his achievements as as a geophysical scientist to give the Carlson Lecture was never questioned--nor could it be.

4/ MIT's caving in to a cancel mob's demand to disinvite a distinguished scientist who had been invited on the basis of his achievements to give an honorific lecture shows just how badly science today has been politicized. The integrity of science can't survive politicization.

5/ Every honorable scientist should be raising his or her voice in condemnation of the cravenness of those at MIT who are responsible for canceling Dorian Abbot's Carlson Lecture. In condemning the politicization of science, there should be unanimity--at least among scientists.

6/ It's not just the scientists who need to speak up against this outrage against academic freedom and integrity. It is all of us in academia--scholars in every field, and scholars from across the ideological spectrum. Please, don't be silent. Speak! Let your voice be heard.

7/ MIT alumni, please make your voices heard on the Institute's shameful capitulation to political pressure to cancel the 2021 Carlson Lecture by University of Chicago geophysicist Dorian Abbot. MIT's honor is at stake. So is the integrity of science at MIT and beyond.

8/ Everyone, please spread the word about this outrage.  Help make the authorities at MIT see how disgraceful--and indefensible--the canceling of Dr. Dorian Abbot's Carlson Lecture is. Let's strike a blow for academic freedom and the integrity of science.

9/ It's time to stand up to these mobs and hold accountable institutions that capitulate to them. Let's finally say enough is enough. "You yield to a mob; you'll have to deal with us." @bariweiss @JonHaidt @glukianoff @AmnaUncensored @sapinker @peterboghossian @jflier @GlennLoury

Suomessa tieteilijät ja muut "erittäin fiksut ihmiset" vaan kirjoittelee YLEllä ja Hyysärissä jostain vatun kuunatseista ja "oikeusvaltiosta", hyvyyspisteitä keräillen...

Niin, ja mitäs karmeita törkeyksiä se Abbot sitten kirjoitteli:

QuoteThe Diversity Problem on Campus | Opinion

American universities are undergoing a profound transformation that threatens to derail their primary mission: the production and dissemination of knowledge. The new regime is titled "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion" or DEI, and is enforced by a large bureaucracy of administrators. Nearly every decision taken on campus, from admissions, to faculty hiring, to course content, to teaching methods, is made through the lens of DEI. This regime was imposed from the top and has never been adequately debated. In the current climate it cannot be openly debated: the emotions around DEI are so strong that self-censorship among dissenting faculty is nearly universal.

The words "diversity, equity and inclusion" sound just, and are often supported by well-intentioned people, but their effects are the opposite of noble sentiments. Most importantly, "equity" does not mean fair and equal treatment. DEI seeks to increase the representation of some groups through discrimination against members of other groups. The underlying premise of DEI is that any statistical difference between group representation on campus and national averages reflects systemic injustice and discrimination by the university itself. The magnitude of the distortions is significant: for some job searches discrimination rises to the level of implicitly or explicitly excluding applicants from certain groups.

DEI violates the ethical and legal principle of equal treatment. It entails treating people as members of a group rather than as individuals, repeating the mistake that made possible the atrocities of the 20th century. It requires being willing to tell an applicant "I will ignore your merits and qualifications and deny you admission because you belong to the wrong group, and I have defined a more important social objective that justifies doing so." It treats persons as merely means to an end, giving primacy to a statistic over the individuality of a human being.

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https://www.newsweek.com/diversity-problem-campus-opinion-1618419? (https://www.newsweek.com/diversity-problem-campus-opinion-1618419?)

Mutta joo, ei mitään tarvetta huolestua. Höpsötys menee aikanaan itsestään ohi...  :facepalm:
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.10.2021, 11:39:58
Quote from: zupi on 01.10.2021, 14:36:08
QuoteIn a single day, the Biden administration said parents shouldn't be the "primary stakeholder" in their children's education and the National School Board Association asked the feds to crack down on anti-critical race theory protests as "domestic terrorism."

They want your kids.

Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) October 1, 2021

Ja niin Mätä-Joe julisti jälleen uuden sodan terrorismia vanhempia / omia kansalaisia vastaan. Sama on suunta Suomessakin, viimeisimpänä esimerkkinä Tynkkysen eilinen tuomio.

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QuoteBREAKING: Attorney General Merrick Garland has instructed the FBI to mobilize against parents who oppose critical race theory in public schools, citing "threats."

The letter follows the National School Board Association's request to classify protests as "domestic terrorism."

The Biden administration is rapidly repurposing federal law enforcement to target political opposition.

They want to reclassify dissent as "disinformation" and "domestic terrorism," justifying an unprecedented intervention, both directly and in partnership with tech companies.

Neither the Attorney General's memo nor the full Justice Department press release cites any significant, credible threat.

This is a blatant suppression tactic, designed to dissuade citizens from participating in the democratic process at school boards.

We must forcefully push back against the suppression of our basic rights and the criminalization of our politics.

The Biden administration wants to apply the J6 strategy to every expression of conservative speech and assembly.

We must not let them.

Oikeasti se on ihan eri porukka, joka siellä sikailee:

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Ja mätämedia on aina auttamassa (ketjussa videoita):

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Quote1/Videos Surface showing Democrat Committee Chair's Offensive Rant, not parents, was cause for School Board Meeting shutdown.

9/15 Prince William County School Board Meeting was delayed & crowd got angry after PWC Dem Chair Tonya James ranted "Go to Hell" & "F**K YOU" at others.

2/All media edited PWC Dem Chair Tonya James from their reporting/video.

As meeting was delayed, a veteran in crowd stood & asked if vets were present. Several raised hands. He thanked them for their service & mentioned all were upset over Afghanistan.

3/Singing of National Anthem followed. In final seconds of video, James (red pants, background) starts to rant, lunging at man behind her.

4/After ranting, she continues yelling at others "you didn't really serve in Iraq. I was shot at.....F**K  YOU and F**K YOU." Leaning into man behind her with "Go to Hell!" she then yells at crowd about not really serving then pointing "F**K You and F**K You!"

5/Rant was unprovoked. Crowd was shocked, angry. One man called for security, which immediately clears the building. DC ABC News reporter Carl Lewis is seen in 2nd video capturing scene on his phone. On air he omits James' rant, blames parents. All print media does the same.

6/ABC NEWS version and 3rd video implying parents were out of control. This is a total distortion of what happened with the media doing a willful coverup of James' provocation, used to scapegoat parents.

7/ABC News reporter in 2nd video capturing rant. He knew the truth and misled viewers. These are the games these people are playing to craft a bogus narrative against the American people and parents who care about their kids and education.

8/With the ideas laundered by ABC, local news continues misreporting facts, covering up for Democrat Chair. "Unruly crowd" is blamed for her unnecessary and rude provocation.

end/This is the name of the game. Democratic leaders acting badly in public and provoking an incident while the media covers for them and spins the story to blame "unruly" parents and everyday people trying to get involved in the civic process of their communities. Crooked!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 06.10.2021, 00:28:41
On tämä kyllä järjetöntä, millä voimalla tuota woke-paskaa ajetaan nykyään.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/top-trans-doctors-blow-the-whistle (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/top-trans-doctors-blow-the-whistle)

En ala enempää lainailemaan tuota Bari Weissin juttua (menee paikoitellen jo aika "biologiseksi"), koska itse pidän jutussa ääneen pääseviä tyyppejä edelleen "puolikulttilaisina". Lähinnä juttua on siitä, miten nykyään asetetaan lapsen (aivopesty) mielipide kaiken muun yläpuolelle, miten hormonihoitojen haittoja vähätellään ja miten ne leikkaukset eivät todellisuudessa ole ihan legopalikoilla rakentamista. Mutta taustatietona kuitenkin:

QuoteBut that new orthodoxy has gone too far, according to two of the most prominent providers in the field of transgender medicine: Dr. Marci Bowers, a world-renowned vaginoplasty specialist who operated on reality-television star Jazz Jennings; and Erica Anderson, a clinical psychologist at the University of California San Francisco's Child and Adolescent Gender Clinic.

QuoteIn the course of their careers, both have seen thousands of patients. Both are board members of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH), the organization that sets the standards worldwide for transgender medical care. And both are transgender women.

QuoteOver the past few weeks, I have spoken at length to both women about the current direction of their field and where they feel it has gone wrong. On some issues, including their stance on puberty blockers, they raised concerns that appear to question the current health guidelines set by WPATH — which Bowers is slated to lead starting in 2022.

Oleellinen juttu tuossa Weissin artikkelissa oli kuitenkin siis mielestäni tämä:

QuoteEarlier this month, Anderson told me she submitted a co-authored op-ed to The New York Times warning that many transgender healthcare providers were treating kids recklessly. The Times passed, explaining it was "outside our coverage priorities right now."

Siis kun kaksi maailman tunnetuimmista trans-"kentän" lääkäreistä, jotka molemmat ovat myös itse transuja, yrittävät ilmaista huolensa nykymenosta, niin yksi niistä kaikista "vastuullisimmista ja luotettavimmista" haistattaa heille paskat. Ja jos jatkavat louskuttamistaan, niin molemmat tullaan takuuvarmasti myös canceloimaan. Koska yksikään väärä mielipide tai näkemys ei ole sallittu. Ja omasta mielestäni nuo "naikkoset" edelleen silottelevat ja vähättelevät ongelmaa. Ja pahasti.

Quote from: zupi on 04.10.2021, 22:00:28
Kovat tieteenalat kyykkää myös.

Quote1/ Dorian Abbot is a geophysicist at the University of Chicago. He was to give MIT's prestigious Carlson Lecture on Oct. 21. The topic was to be climates of extrasolar planets. Shamefully, MIT canceled the lecture under pressure from activists who objected to his political views.

2/ Those who pressured MIT to cancel Dr. Abbot's lecture oppose his views on "diversity, equity, and inclusion": https://newsweek.com/diversity-problem-campus-opinion-1618419. As you can see, these have nothing to do with the topic of his Carlson Lecture. The activists cancel anyone who dissents from their dogmas.

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Abbot päässyt myös ääneen. Ja Korkmanit ja Enqvistit vaan kirjoittelee kuunatseista. Koska siitähän saa hyvyyspisteitä, ja rahaakin voi tulla.

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/mit-abandons-its-mission-and-me (https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/mit-abandons-its-mission-and-me)

QuoteMIT Abandons Its Mission. And Me.
Let's make sure my cancellation is the last. That begins by standing up and saying no to the mob.

I am a professor who just had a prestigious public science lecture at MIT cancelled because of an outrage mob on Twitter. My crime? Arguing for academic evaluations based on academic merit. This is the story of how a cancellation is carried out, why it should worry all of us, and what we can do to stop this dangerous trend.

I have been a professor in the Department of the Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago for the past 10 years. I work on topics ranging from climate change to the possibility of life on extrasolar planets using mathematics, physics, and computer simulation.

I have never considered myself a political person. For example, a few days before an election I go to ISideWith.com and answer the policy questions, then I assign my vote using a weighted draw based on my overlap with the candidates. It's an efficient algorithm that works perfectly for a nerd like me.

But I started to get alarmed about five years ago as I noticed an increasing number of issues and viewpoints become impossible to discuss on campus. I mostly just wanted to do my science and not have anyone yell at me, and I thought that if I kept my mouth shut the problem would eventually go away. I knew that speaking out would likely bring serious reputational and professional consequences. And for a number of years I just didn't think it was worth it.

But the street violence of the summer of 2020, some of which I witnessed personally in Chicago, and the justifications and dishonesty that accompanied it, convinced me that I could no longer remain silent in good conscience.

In the fall of 2020 I started advocating openly for academic freedom and merit-based evaluations. I recorded some short YouTube videos in which I argued for the importance of treating each person as an individual worthy of dignity and respect. In an academic context, that means giving everyone a fair and equal opportunity when they apply for a position as well as allowing them to express their opinions openly, even if you disagree with them.

As a result, I was immediately targeted for cancellation, primarily by a group of graduate students in my department. Whistleblowers later revealed that the attack was partially planned and coordinated on the Ford Foundation Fellowship Program listserv by a graduate student in my department. (Please do not attack this person or any of the people who attacked me.)

(...)

It's worth stating what happened again: a small group of ideologues mounted a Twitter campaign to cancel a distinguished science lecture at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology because they disagreed with some of the political positions the speaker had taken. And they were successful within eight days.

(...)

It has become fashionable in some circles to claim that "cancel culture is just holding people accountable." I challenge you to read the material that led to the attacks against me and find anything that would require me being held "accountable." (...)

I view this episode as an example as well as a striking illustration of the threat woke ideology poses to our culture, our institutions and to our freedoms. I have consistently maintained that woke ideology is essentially totalitarian in nature: it attempts to corral the entirety of human existence into one narrow ideological viewpoint and to silence anyone who disagrees. (...)

This issue is especially important to me because my wife and I are expecting our first child in January. We all need to decide what type of country we want our children to grow up in. Do we want a culture of fear and repression in which a small number of ideologues exert their power and cultural dominance to silence anyone who disagrees with them? Or do we want our children to enjoy truth-seeking discourse consisting of good-natured exchanges that are ultimately grounded in a spirit of epistemic humility?

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Tätä en päässyt maksumuurin vuoksi lukemaan, mutta kannatan kyllä (pienillä varauksilla).

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QuoteBoris Johnson can become the new leader of the world order

Edit. Aika hyvä.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 06.10.2021, 01:05:37
Critical Social Justice. Kolmen sanan megavalhe. Kriittisyys, mitä kohtaan? Yhteiskunnallinen ei merkitse mitään. Oikeudenmulaisuudesta aate on yhtä kaukana kuin hirttäminen lyhtypylvääseen verrattuna edes jonkinlaiseen oikeudenkäyntiin.
Voisiko täällä joku ystävällisesti selittää tyhmälle, mitä tämä Marxilta peräisin oleva paskateoria tarkoittaa.
Samaa skeidaa taitaa olla tämä cancelointi. Kenet tykistön patteriupseerina maalittaisin?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 07.10.2021, 01:48:09
Social taitaa ollaa paremminkin yhteisöllinen kuin yhteiskunnallinen (societal).. Eikö tuo Justice meinaa juuri sitä SoMe lyhtypylvääseen hirttämistä? Tuota kriittisyysaspektia en kyllä myöskään tajua - ehkä kyse on (Lockelaisen) libertalismin vastaisuudesta? Cancelointi on taasen uusi versio Stasi hommista.

Lopulta kyse on vain kommunismin uudesta ilmentymästä, joita tulee tasaisin väliajoin. Minun on vaikea ymmärtää, mistä moisten kannattajat oikein unelmoivat.




Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 07.10.2021, 02:22:40
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 01.10.2021, 03:22:40
Eukko alkoi opiskelemaan uutta alaa ja siellä on queer-arkeologiaa, feminismi sitä ja tätä, ensimmäisenä opetettiin sukupuolia olevan lukuisia. Surullista nähdä omin silmin miten tämä syöpä on vallannut koko koululaitoksemme.
Nyt on tullut jo tehtäviksi kymmeniä sivuja kirjoitettavaa rasismista, kulttuurin omimisesta ym. hömpästä. Luentoja kuinka pahaa isänmaallisuus on ja kuinka pahoja "vahvat miehet" ovat. Suomalaisten vertausta fasistisiin natseihin koska venäläisiä kuoli vankileireillä.

Ei ihme kun noista laitoksista tulee ulos niin sekopäistä porukkaa. Jännityksellä odotan mitä seuraava viikko tuo tullessaan. :roll:
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: F1nka on 07.10.2021, 07:32:03
^Käytännön vinkki, jos on epävarma, miten jollekin opettajalle vastaa, niin kannattaa lukaista heidän omaa tuotantoaan. Taustatyö monesti palkitsee. Nämä kriittisen teorian tyypit yleensä pitävät siitä, että heidän omaa tekstiään hieman eri sanakääntein resitoidaan heille.

Kriittinen teoria ei ole nimestään huolimatta teoria vaan koulukunta. Esmerkiksi termipankista:
Quote
Frankfurtin koulukunta | kriittinen teoria | kriittinen koulukunta
Frankfurtin koulukunta   (suositeltu)
kriittinen teoria   
kriittinen koulukunta   
Määritelmä Hegelin, Marxin ja Freudin ajatusten pohjalta syntynyt suuntaus, jossa filosofian ja tieteen luonteeseen katsotaan kuuluvan kulttuuri- ja yhteiskuntakritiikki
Selite Frankfurtin koulukunnan (mm. Adordo, Horkheimer, Marcuse, Fromm, Habermas, Honneth) kannattaman kriittisen teorian mukaan on olennaista vapauttaa ihminen vallitsevista ideologisista muodoista.
https://tieteentermipankki.fi/wiki/Filosofia:Frankfurtin_koulukunta (https://tieteentermipankki.fi/wiki/Filosofia:Frankfurtin_koulukunta)

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 10.10.2021, 10:54:04
Kun ihonväri ei ole sopiva, vapaaehtoistyöstäkin voi saada kenkää.  Näin kävi chicagolaisen taidemuseon (Art Institute of Chicago = AIC)  122:lle "dosentille" eli asiantuntijaoppaalle.

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2021/10/09/the-art-institute-of-chicago-fires-all-122-of-its-unpaid-and-volunteer-docents-because-they-arent-sufficiently-diverse/

Palkattomuudesta huolimatta työ oli vaativaa:

QuoteDespite the lack of remuneration—they do this to be helpful and because they love art—their training to be docents is extremely rigorous. First, they have to have two training sessions per week for eighteen months, and then "five years of continual research and writing to meet the criteria of 13 museum content areas" (quote from the docents' letter to the Director of the AIC). On top of that, there's monthly and biweekly training on new exhibits. Then there are the tours themselves, with a docent giving up to two one-hour tours per day for 18 weeks of the year and a minimum of 24 one-hour tours with adults/families.  Their average length of service: 15 years.

Moiseen sitoutuminen edellyttää tietenkin paitsi harrastuneisuutta, myös suhteellisen turvattua taloutta muuta kautta.  Siksi valtaosa oppaista oli vanhempia valkoisia kotirouvia.  Oppaiden olemus ei museon johdon mukaan sopinut nykyaikaiseen moninaisuuden vaatimuksiin, joten toiminta lopetettiin ja tilalle palkattiin pienempi määrä oppaita (25 taalaa tunti), joiden palkkauksessa mitä ilmeisimmin huomioitiin etninen tausta huolellisemmin kuin aiemmin vapaaehtoisia rekrytoitaessa.

On mielenkiintoista, että väärän värisenä ei ole tervetullut edes vapaaehtoistyöhän.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 10.10.2021, 12:15:25
Toinen esimerkki, missä "moninaisuus" asetettiin jatkuvuuden edelle: 

Englannissa toimiva kiertävä ooppera English Touring Opera palkkaa vuosittain kiertueelleen soittajia.  Wikipediasta:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Touring_Opera

Soittajat palkataan aina vain kiertueen ajaksi, mutta aikaisemmin vanhat (valkoiset) soittajat ovat pääsääntöisesti saaneet kiinnityksen uudelle kaudelle, mikäli erityistä syytä vieroksua soittajaa ei ole ilmaantunut.  Nyt kuitenkin ooppera uudisti yli puolet orkesterista kerralla, viitaten tarpeisiin moninaisuuden suhteen.  Ote kirjeestä, jonka oopperan pomo lähetti niille, joiden sopimusta ei uusittu:
QuoteEnglish Touring Opera is committed to increasing all kinds of diversity in its team, and while there have been appreciable, steady advances on stage in this area, we have prioritised increased diversity in the orchestra. This is in line with the firm guidance of the Arts Council, principal funder of ETO's touring work, and of most of the trust funds that support ETO.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9982453/English-Touring-Opera-drops-14-white-musicians-woke-drive-increase-diversity.html

Valtiollinen tukija Arts Council kuitenkin kiisti, että se olisi ohjeistanut muuttamaan radikaalisti orkesterin kokoonpanoa: 
QuoteThe Arts Council England has hit back at the ETO, which it funds to the tune of £1.78 million a year, saying it never encouraged the company to sack musicians.

'We did not instruct the English Touring Opera to send this letter,' the Council said. 'We are now in conversation with ETO to ensure no funding criteria have been breached'. 
On mielenkiintoista, kuinka ajan henki innostaa radikaaleihinkin muutoksiin, vaikkei laki tai yhteiskunta siihen pakotakaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 10.10.2021, 19:16:20
Ei ole olemassa gender-ideologiaa, mutta on olematonta gender-ideologiaa vastustava anti-gender-liike, joka on jotenkin vaarallinen. Anti-gender-toimijat valehtelevat ja maalittavat ja perustavat sateenkaarijärjestöjä.

Ilmeisesti Päivi Räsänen ja joku "perussuomalaisten puolueen tunnettu jäsen" kuuluvat tähän liikkeeseen. Tai sitten ei. Jää hieman epämääräiseksi Emma Hinkulan jutussa.

QuoteValheita ja vääriä sometilejä – maailmanlaajuinen anti-gender-liike pyrkii heikentämään vähemmistöjen oikeuksia ja häiriköi sateenkaarijärjestöjä

Anti-gender-liikkeeseen kuuluu muun muassa äärioikeistoa ja uskonnollisia tahoja. Niiden yhteinen keksitty vihollinen on "gender ideologia", jonka väitetään romuttavan perinteiset perhearvot.

Seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksia ajavat Trasek ry ja Seta, sekä osa tutkijoista ovat huolissaan anti-gender-liikkeestä, joka pyrkii heikentämään naisten sekä seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksia.

Anti-gender-toimijoita yhdistää Jyväskylän yliopiston nykykulttuurin tutkimuksen yliopistonlehtori Tuija Saresman mukaan konservatiiviset arvot, eli niin sanottu perinteinen perhemalli, heteroseksuaalinen avioliitto ja ajatus siitä, että sukupuolia on vain kaksi: mies ja nainen.

– Anti-gender-liikkeeseen kuuluu äärioikeistoa ja kristillisiä tahoja. Monien tausta on herätysliikkeissä, erityisesti evankelisissa herätysliikkeissä, Saresma sanoo.

Näiden tahojen yhteinen keksitty vihollinen on gender-ideologia, johon anti-gender-toimijat niputtavat niin seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeudet kuin sukupuolineutraalin kasvatuksen.

Saresman mukaan gender-ideologian esitetään muun muassa vievän perinteisen perheen merkityksen ja kieltävän lapsien olevan joko tyttöjä tai poikia.

Gender-ideologiasta on puhunut muun muassa Päivi Räsänen KD-lehden artikkelissa, jossa hän ilmaisi huolensa siitä, miten ideologialla pyritään vaikuttamaan lasten maailmankuvaan kouluissa ja päiväkodeissa sukupuolia häivyttämällä ja normalisoimalla samaa sukupuolta olevien suhteet.

– Ei ole olemassa mitään gender-ideologiaa. On todella ihmeellistä, että voidaan perustaa tällainen liikehdintä keksityn asian vastustamiseksi. Se on ollut kuitenkin yllättävän tehokasta ja levinnyt maasta toiseen, Saresma sanoo.

[...]

Sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksia ajavan Trasekin hallituksen puheenjohtaja Kasper Kivistö kertoo, että anti-gender-liike vaikuttaa heidän toimintaansa erityisesti väärää tietoa levittämällä esimerkiksi sosiaalisessa mediassa.

– Anti-gender-toimijat perustavat some-tilejä, joissa he esiintyvät sateenkaarijärjestöinä ja jakavat väärää tietoa.

Sellaista on esimerkiksi valheet sukupuolenkorjaukseen liittyvien hoitojen haittapuolista tai yhdistyksen ajamien arvojen vääristely. Yksi esimerkki on sukupuolisensitiivinen kasvatus.

Trasek puhuu esimerkiksi siitä, että kouluissa pitäisi olla sukupuolisensitiivisiä pukeutumistiloja ja ymmärtää sukupuolen moninaisuus. Kivistön mukaan anti-gender-toimijat vääntävät viestin niin, että sukupuolia ei saisi olla ja kaikkien pitäisi pukeutua harmaisiin säkkeihin.

Anti-gender-toimijat perustavat Kivistön mukaan myös sateenkaarijärjestöjä ja esiintyvät niiden edustajina. Hän epäilee, että motiivina on hankkia tietoa ja pyrkiä aiheuttamaan eripuraa yhteisön sisälle.

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Myös Seta joutuu oikomaan valheita, joita anti-gender-toimijat levittävät.

Setan pääsihteeri Kerttu Tarjamon mukaan yksi piirre sateenkaari-ihmisten oikeuksia vastustavien tekemisessä on viime vuosina ollut, että viranomaisilta tivataan, miksi ne edistävät seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksia.

Jotkut tahot myös levittävät kieltolappua, jolla voidaan ilmoittaa, että ei haluta lasten osallistuvan koulutunneille, jos Seta on paikalla – tai osallistuvan oppitunneille, joissa kerrotaan sukupuolen ja seksuaalisen suuntautumisen moninaisuudesta.

– Kyse on kuitenkin opetussuunnitelman mukaisista oppisisällöistä, joita ei voi lapselta evätä.

[...]

Erityisesti sukupuolentutkijat ovat joutuneet anti-genderistien hampaisiin niin Suomessa kuin muuallakin maailmassa.

Tutkija Tuija Saresma kertoo, että hän on itse joutunut masinoitujen hyökkäysten kohteeksi Twitterissä. Hyökkääjät eivät Saresman mukaan tosin ole olleet anti-gender-toimijoita. Vakavimman hyökkäyksen takana oli perussuomalaisten puolueen tunnettu jäsen.

– Anti-gender-liikehdintä yhdistää konservatiivisia uskonnollisia liikkeitä ja oikeistopopulistisia puolueita eri puolilla Eurooppaa, joten tämä ei ole yllättävää.

Hyökkääjät kyseenalaistavat, onko Saresma oikea tutkija, koska hän on sukupuolentutkija. Heidän mielestään sukupuolentutkimus ei ole tiedettä.

Hyökkäysten kohteeksi ovat joutuneet Saresman mukaan myös useat Suomen Akatemian rahoituspäätöksiä saaneet tutkijat, joiden tutkimuksissa sukupuoli oli keskeinen tutkittava asia.

[...]

Myös Helsingin yliopiston politiikan ja sukupuolentutkimuksen tutkija Julian Honkasalon tutkimuksen vapautta on yritetty rajoittaa maalittamisella.

Sen lisäksi esimerkiksi perussuomalaisten ylläpitämä Suomen uutiset otti Honkasalon sukupuolivähemmistöjen historiaa käsittelevän tutkimushankkeen, sekä usean rasismia tutkivan tutkijan silmätikukseen.

– Jutussa useita Suomen Akatemian tutkijoita, kuten esimerkiksi Suomen ja Natsi-Saksan kytköksiä tutkivaa historioitsija Oula Silvennoista väitettiin valetutkijoiksi ja propagandan levittäjiksi. Tietyt tutkimusaiheet siis valikoituvat sosiaalisessa mediassa kohteiksi.

Honkasalo kertoo, että anti-gender-toimijat vaarantavat muun muassa tutkijoiden, toimittajien ja ihmisoikeustoimijoiden turvallisuuden esimerkiksi doksaamalla. Se tarkoittaa ihmisten yksityisten tietojen selvittämistä ja niiden levittämistä netissä.

Somessa maalittamisen lisäksi anti-gender-toimijat levittävät ideologiaansa esimerkiksi tekemällä poliittisia aloitteita sekä perustamalla yhdistyksiä ja nettisivustoja.

[...]

Myös Suomessa on tutkija Julian Honkasalon mukaan useita erilaisia toimijoita, jotka ajavat anti-gender-arvomaailmaa, mutta eivät silti halua nimetä itseään antigenderisteiksi.

Gender-ideologiaa vastustavat eivät ole yksi taho, eikä toiminta ole keskusjohtoista.

– Toimijat saattavat olla tavoitteissaan keskenään ristiriitaisia, mutta niitä yhdistää tekaistu väite, että yhteiskuntaa uhkaa perinteisiä arvoja romuttava "gender-ideologia", Honkasalo kertoo.

Yksi sellainen toimija on World Congress of Families, eli Aito avioliitto ry:n kattojärjestö.

[...]

Tarjamo kertoo, että viime vuonna sateenkaarioikeuksien kehitys meni ensimmäistä kertaa Euroopassa taaksepäin. Hänen mukaansa myös vihanilmaukset satenkaari-ihmisiä ja -toimijoita kohtaan ovat lisääntyneet koko Euroopassa.

– Osittain syynä ovat vahvat anti-genderistiset toimijat, joilla on valtaa ja rahaa vaikuttaa tavalla, joka vahingoittaa tiettyjä ihmisryhmiä.

[...]

Seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksien ja esimerkiksi aborttilainsäädännön kehittyminen Suomessa riippuu paljolti poliittisista voimasuhteista.

Hyvin konservatiivisia arvoja kannattava hallitus ja pääministeripuolue voisivat Trasekin Kasper Kivistön mielestä muuttaa tilanteita nopeastikin. Hänen mukaansa Suomessa toimii jo puolueita, joiden kannat ovat anti-genderististen liikkeiden kanssa hyvin samanlaisia.

– Jos sellainen puolue pääsee valtaan, pitää oikeasti alkaa pelätä, mitä tapahtuu seuraavaksi.
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12130484) 10.10.2021
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 10.10.2021, 19:36:52
Kielipoliisi iski Britanniassa:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/10/10/manmade-forefathers-branded-as-sexist-by-uk-university/

QuoteA British university has told students to refrain from using terms such as "founding fathers", "manmade", "masterful", and other words deemed to be sexist or racist.
The woke language policing has now extended to Aston University in Birmingham in the North of England, with the sociology department issuing a list of proscribed terms and words to undergraduate students.
Some of the now-banned terms include the phrases "Old Masters", "master copy", "one-man show", "forefathers", "seminal", "manmade", and "masterful", according to documents leaked by a student to the Free Speech Union, which seeks to protect speech on British campuses.
Other phrases which drew the ire of the academics, who openly pronounced their support for the far-left Black Lives Matter movement, include "civilisation", "immigrants", "third world", "tribe", "non-white", and "native" for supposedly propagating racism and colonial thinking.
The guide goes on to attack the very concept of Britishness, stating that the "idea of 'British' can imply a false sense of unity".

Eli sanat, jossa on "man" ovat nyt kiellettyjä seksistisinä vaikkei ne varsinaisesti assosioida miehiin.

Lisäksi sanat kuten sivilisaatio (cvivilization) ja alkuperäinen (native) ovat nyt rasistisia. Ilmeisesti sivilisaation puute neekerien kansoittamilla alueilla antaa niin huonoja viboja suvakeille, ettei koko sanaa pitäisi käyttää lainkaan.  :facepalm:

Kirsikkana kakun päällä idea "brittiläisyydestä" on kielletty koska se antaa väärän mielikuvan yhteenkuuluvuudesta. Ilmeisesti ns. integraatio on kussut niin täydellisesti Briteissä, että parasta muuttaa kieli vastaamaan monikulttuurista juuretonta sekasotkua.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kekkeruusi on 10.10.2021, 20:50:57
Quote from: Roope on 10.10.2021, 19:16:20
Ei ole olemassa gender-ideologiaa, mutta on olematonta gender-ideologiaa vastustava anti-gender-liike, joka on jotenkin vaarallinen. Anti-gender-toimijat valehtelevat ja maalittavat ja perustavat sateenkaarijärjestöjä.

Ilmeisesti Päivi Räsänen ja joku "perussuomalaisten puolueen tunnettu jäsen" kuuluvat tähän liikkeeseen. Tai sitten ei. Jää hieman epämääräiseksi Emma Hinkulan jutussa.

QuoteValheita ja vääriä sometilejä – maailmanlaajuinen anti-gender-liike pyrkii heikentämään vähemmistöjen oikeuksia ja häiriköi sateenkaarijärjestöjä
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12130484) 10.10.2021
Kyllä ovat veronmaksajien rahat hyvässä käytössä kun maksetaan "tutkimus"-huuhaata ja Ylen kertomuksia siitä.

Se on kyllä järkyttävää, kun jotkut eivät leiki näiden idioottien sääntöjen mukaan, vaan luottavat todisteisiin sekä faktoihin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 11.10.2021, 01:34:49
Quote from: Roope on 10.10.2021, 19:16:20
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Quote(...)

Anti-gender-liikkeeseen kuuluu muun muassa äärioikeistoa ja uskonnollisia tahoja. Niiden yhteinen keksitty vihollinen on "gender ideologia", jonka väitetään romuttavan perinteiset perhearvot.

Seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksia ajavat Trasek ry ja Seta, sekä osa tutkijoista ovat huolissaan anti-gender-liikkeestä, joka pyrkii heikentämään naisten sekä seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksia.

Anti-gender-toimijoita yhdistää Jyväskylän yliopiston nykykulttuurin tutkimuksen yliopistonlehtori Tuija Saresman mukaan konservatiiviset arvot, eli niin sanottu perinteinen perhemalli, heteroseksuaalinen avioliitto ja ajatus siitä, että sukupuolia on vain kaksi: mies ja nainen.
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On se vaan uskomatonta, että verovaroin toimiva YLE täysin avoimesti levittää äärivasemmistolaista propagandaa. Saresma näytti olevan seitsemättä kertaa tänä vuonna YLEllä valehtelemassa hullukultista. Ja jostain syystä koskaan ei mukana ole mitään vastakkaisia mielipiteitä... Ne kommentit vaan esitetään täytenä totuutena. Mutta jos nyt kommentoi tuota kirjoitusta, niin:

- Nämä äärivasemmistolaiset liikkeet nimenomaan pyrkivät hävittämään (mm.) ns. ydinperheen käsitteen, jotkut niistä sanovat tämän täysin avoimesti.

- Gender liikkeellä ei ole mitään tekemistä naisten tai seksuaalivähemmistöjen oikeuksien kanssa. Itse asiassa gender-liikkeen ajamat tavoitteet nimenomaan heikentäisivät naisten oikeuksia, eli anti-gender liike nimenomaan puolustaa niitä. Ja loppupeleissähän tuo gender-liike tulee vaikuttamaan negatiivisesti myös todellisten sukupuolivähemmistöjen asemaan. Tällähän ei tietenkään ole mitään merkitystä, koska hullukultilla se perimmäinen tavoite on oman ideologian edistäminen ja vallan tavoittelu. Tämän nyt voisi tyhminkin päätellä pelkästään siitä, miten nuo liikkeet kohtelevat niitä vähemmistöihin kuuluvia ihmisiä, jotka eivät suostu ylistämään wokeismin ilosanomaa. Esim:

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- Ja niitä sukupuolia on vain kaksi, ellei sitten satu elämään postmodernistisessä pseudotodellisuudessa, missä Saresma(kin) ilmeisesti elää. Eli se "anti-gender" liike käytännössä tarkoittaa kaikkia ihmisiä, jotka eivät suostu alistumaan nykyiselle sekopäiselle, totalitaristiselle woke-aatteelle, joka on korvannut tieteen mielipuolisilla, täysin todistamattomilla teorioilla ja "sorrettujen (ja aivopestyjen) ihmisten elämänkokemuksilla".

Quote– Ei ole olemassa mitään gender-ideologiaa. On todella ihmeellistä, että voidaan perustaa tällainen liikehdintä keksityn asian vastustamiseksi. Se on ollut kuitenkin yllättävän tehokasta ja levinnyt maasta toiseen, Saresma sanoo.

Ei ole olemassa mitään gender-ideologiaa??? No, kielipelien erikoisosaajilla on varmaan joku "sorrettujen vapauttamiseen" liittyvä käsite tälle, mistä Saresma itsekin kirjoittaa:

QuoteGender, jota äärikonservatiiviset tahot vastustavat sen haitallisuuteen, politisoitumiseen ja vasemmistoliberaaliuteen vedoten, on akateeminen käsite. Se kehitettiin tieteellisessä keskustelussa sosiaalisen sukupuolen (gender) erottamiseksi biologisesta sukupuolesta (sex).

Gender-käsite korostaa sitä, että sukupuoli on muutakin kuin biologiaa: se viittaa sukupuolen kulttuurisiin piirteisiin ja siihen, että Simone de Beauvoirin kuuluisaa iskulausetta "naiseksi ei synnytä, naiseksi tullaan" mukaillen sukupuoli ei ole vain jotakin syntymässä annettua. Sukupuolta tehdään arkisissa käytännöissä, kulttuuristen normien puitteissa. Sukupuolen performatiivisuutta on teoretisoinut myös sukupuolentutkimuksen keskeinen ajattelija Judith Butler.

https://politiikasta.fi/antigender-liike-kristillisyys-ja-oikeistopopulismi-sukupuolen-politiikkaa/ (https://politiikasta.fi/antigender-liike-kristillisyys-ja-oikeistopopulismi-sukupuolen-politiikkaa/)

Tuossakin Saresma puolivalehtelee, koska tietää, että tuolle aatteelle ei löytyisi minkäänlaista kannatusta, jos se todellinen viesti sanottaisiin suoraan. Eli että biologialla ei ole mitään merkitystä, kaikki on sosiaalista konstruktiota, kuka tahansa voi olla mitä tahansa, mitään eroja ei saa olla, kukaan ei saa olla ketään muuta parempi missään, jne. Mutta miten Saresma voi väittää, että mitään gender-ideologiaa ei ole olemassa? Ja miten YLE menee julkaisemaan tuollaista sontaa, vieläpä jonkinlaisena "varmana totuutena"?

QuoteSukupuolivähemmistöjen oikeuksia ajavan Trasekin hallituksen puheenjohtaja Kasper Kivistö kertoo, että anti-gender-liike vaikuttaa heidän toimintaansa erityisesti väärää tietoa levittämällä esimerkiksi sosiaalisessa mediassa.

– Anti-gender-toimijat perustavat some-tilejä, joissa he esiintyvät sateenkaarijärjestöinä ja jakavat väärää tietoa.

Sellaista on esimerkiksi valheet sukupuolenkorjaukseen liittyvien hoitojen haittapuolista tai yhdistyksen ajamien arvojen vääristely. Yksi esimerkki on sukupuolisensitiivinen kasvatus.

Edellä mainittu twitteröijä on ilmeisesti myös tällainen "väärää tietoa jakava toimija"... Enpä halua edes miettiä, mitä Kasper tekisi näille "väärää tietoa jakaville toimijoille", jos hänelle tilaisuus annettaisiin. Väärää tietoa levittävät Kasperin mielestä takuuvarmasti myös kaksi ketjussa aiemmin mainittua, maailman tunnetuimpiin trans-alan lääkäreihin kuuluvaa, itsekin transua henkilöä.

QuoteTrasek puhuu esimerkiksi siitä, että kouluissa pitäisi olla sukupuolisensitiivisiä pukeutumistiloja ja ymmärtää sukupuolen moninaisuus. Kivistön mukaan anti-gender-toimijat vääntävät viestin niin, että sukupuolia ei saisi olla ja kaikkien pitäisi pukeutua harmaisiin säkkeihin.

Voi jeesus mitä paskaa... Meinaakohan Trasek rakentaa äärettömän määrän pukuhuoneita joka paikkaan, koska niitä sukupuoliahan on ilmeisestikin ääretön määrä? No ei. Todellinen lopputulos tuosta tavoitteesta on, että naisten ja tyttöjen pukuhuoneissa on satakiloisia äijiä hivelemässä itseään. Mutta muistakaa kuitenkin, että tuo on naisten ja tyttöjen oikeuksien puolustamista.

QuoteJotkut tahot myös levittävät kieltolappua, jolla voidaan ilmoittaa, että ei haluta lasten osallistuvan koulutunneille, jos Seta on paikalla – tai osallistuvan oppitunneille, joissa kerrotaan sukupuolen ja seksuaalisen suuntautumisen moninaisuudesta.

– Kyse on kuitenkin opetussuunnitelman mukaisista oppisisällöistä, joita ei voi lapselta evätä.

Kuuluuko opetussuunnitelmaan oikeasti, että äärivasemmistolainen Seta käy aivopesemässä lapsia? Tai että yleensäkään levitetään hullu-kultin hullu-teorioita. Jos näin, niin opetussuunnitelmaa tulee välittömästi muuttaa.

QuoteHyökkäysten kohteeksi ovat joutuneet Saresman mukaan myös useat Suomen Akatemian rahoituspäätöksiä saaneet tutkijat, joiden tutkimuksissa sukupuoli oli keskeinen tutkittava asia.

[...]

Myös Helsingin yliopiston politiikan ja sukupuolentutkimuksen tutkija Julian Honkasalon tutkimuksen vapautta on yritetty rajoittaa maalittamisella.

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Honkasalo kertoo, että anti-gender-toimijat vaarantavat muun muassa tutkijoiden, toimittajien ja ihmisoikeustoimijoiden turvallisuuden esimerkiksi doksaamalla. Se tarkoittaa ihmisten yksityisten tietojen selvittämistä ja niiden levittämistä netissä.

Tämä alkaa kyllä olemaan jo niin uskomatonta sontaa, että meinaa sanat loppua kesken. Niinpä toteankin vain: "Iron law of woke projection". Honk honk.

QuoteSomessa maalittamisen lisäksi anti-gender-toimijat levittävät ideologiaansa esimerkiksi tekemällä poliittisia aloitteita sekä perustamalla yhdistyksiä ja nettisivustoja.

Jos tuo alun törkeä valehtelu jätetään huomioimatta, niin että ihan oikeasti tekevät poliittisia aloitteita ja perustavat yhdistyksiä. Ne siat...

Quote– Toimijat saattavat olla tavoitteissaan keskenään ristiriitaisia, mutta niitä yhdistää tekaistu väite, että yhteiskuntaa uhkaa perinteisiä arvoja romuttava "gender-ideologia", Honkasalo kertoo.

Jos vain korvaa "tekaistun väitteen" "ymmärryksellä", niin Honkasalo osuu kerrankin oikeaan. Tosin tuo gender-ideologia on vain osa siitä yhteiskuntaa tuhoavasta woke-liikkeestä. Kyllähän sitä välillä ajatukset on aika samanlaisia kuin Eric Weinsteinilla:

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QuoteTarjamo kertoo, että viime vuonna sateenkaarioikeuksien kehitys meni ensimmäistä kertaa Euroopassa taaksepäin. Hänen mukaansa myös vihanilmaukset satenkaari-ihmisiä ja -toimijoita kohtaan ovat lisääntyneet koko Euroopassa.

– Osittain syynä ovat vahvat anti-genderistiset toimijat, joilla on valtaa ja rahaa vaikuttaa tavalla, joka vahingoittaa tiettyjä ihmisryhmiä.

Kuten kaikki Hommalaiset tietää, niin mikä tahansa kriittisyys wokeismia kohtaan on "vihanilmaus". Tuohon jälkimmäiseen kappaleeseen voisi vastata jälleen tällä Titanian twiitillä:

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QuoteHyvin konservatiivisia arvoja kannattava hallitus ja pääministeripuolue voisivat Trasekin Kasper Kivistön mielestä muuttaa tilanteita nopeastikin. Hänen mukaansa Suomessa toimii jo puolueita, joiden kannat ovat anti-genderististen liikkeiden kanssa hyvin samanlaisia.

– Jos sellainen puolue pääsee valtaan, pitää oikeasti alkaa pelätä, mitä tapahtuu seuraavaksi.

No niinpä pitää, koska siinä vaiheessa woksterit siirtyvät avoimeen väkivaltaan. Koska he ovat historian oikealla puolen...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 15.10.2021, 10:29:37
Bari Weissilta hyvä "yhteenvetävä" kirjoitus CSJ:stä / wokeismista.

https://www.commentary.org/articles/bari-weiss/resist-woke-revolution/ (https://www.commentary.org/articles/bari-weiss/resist-woke-revolution/)

QuoteWe Got Here Because of Cowardice. We Get Out With Courage
Say no to the Woke Revolution
by Bari Weiss

A lot of people want to convince you that you need a Ph.D. or a law degree or dozens of hours of free time to read dense texts about critical theory to understand the woke movement and its worldview. You do not. You simply need to believe your own eyes and ears.

Let me offer the briefest overview of the core beliefs of the Woke Revolution, which are abundantly clear to anyone willing to look past the hashtags and the jargon.

It begins by stipulating that the forces of justice and progress are in a war against backwardness and tyranny. And in a war, the normal rules of the game must be suspended. Indeed, this ideology would argue that those rules are not just obstacles to justice, but tools of oppression. They are the master's tools.  And the master's tools cannot dismantle the master's house.

So the tools themselves are not just replaced but repudiated. And in so doing, persuasion—the purpose of argument—is replaced with public shaming. Moral complexity is replaced with moral certainty. Facts are replaced with feelings.

Ideas are replaced with identity. Forgiveness is replaced with punishment. Debate is replaced with de-platforming. Diversity is replaced with homogeneity of thought. Inclusion, with exclusion.

In this ideology, speech is violence. But violence, when carried out by the right people in pursuit of a just cause, is not violence at all. In this ideology, bullying is wrong, unless you are bullying the right people, in which case it's very, very good. In this ideology, education is not about teaching people how to think, it's about reeducating them in what to think. In this ideology, the need to feel safe trumps the need to speak truthfully.

In this ideology, if you do not tweet the right tweet or share the right slogan, your whole life can be ruined.
Just ask Tiffany Riley, a Vermont school principal who was fired—fired—because she said she supports black lives but not the organization Black Lives Matter.

In this ideology, the past cannot be understood on its own terms, but must be judged through the morals and mores of the present. It is why statues of Grant and Washington are being torn down. And it is why William Peris, a UCLA lecturer and an Air Force veteran, was investigated for reading Martin Luther King's "Letter from Birmingham Jail" out loud in class.

In this ideology, intentions don't matter. That is why Emmanuel Cafferty, a Hispanic utility worker at San Diego Gas and Electric, was fired for making what someone said he thought was a white-supremacist hand gesture—when in fact he was cracking his knuckles out of his car window.

In this ideology, the equality of opportunity is replaced with equality of outcome as a measure of fairness. If everyone doesn't finish the race at the same time, the course must have been defective. Thus, the argument to get rid of the SAT. Or the admissions tests for public schools like Stuyvesant in New York or Lowell in San Francisco.

In this ideology, you are guilty for the sins of your fathers. In other words: You are not you. You are only a mere avatar of your race or your religion or your class. That is why third-graders in Cupertino, California, were asked to rate themselves in terms of their power and privilege. In third grade.

In this system, we are all placed neatly on a spectrum of "privileged" to "oppressed." We are ranked somewhere on this spectrum in different categories: race, gender, sexual orientation, and class. Then we are given an overall score, based on the sum of these rankings. Having privilege means that your character and your ideas are tainted. This is why, one high-schooler in New York tells me, students in his school are told, "If you are white and male, you are second in line to speak." This is considered a normal and necessary redistribution of power.

Racism has been redefined. It is no longer about discrimination based on the color of someone's skin. Racism is any system that allows for disparate outcomes between racial groups. If disparity is present, as the high priest of this ideology, Ibram X. Kendi, has explained, racism is present. According to this totalizing new view, we are all either racist or anti-racist. To be a Good Person and not a Bad Person, you must be an "anti-racist." There is no neutrality. There is no such thing as "not racist."

Most important: In this revolution, skeptics of any part of this radical ideology are recast as heretics. Those who do not abide by every single aspect of its creed are tarnished as bigots, subjected to boycotts and their work to political litmus tests. The Enlightenment, as the critic Edward Rothstein has put it, has been replaced by the exorcism.

What we call "cancel culture" is really the justice system of this revolution. And the goal of the cancellations is not merely to punish the person being cancelled. The goal is to send a message to everyone else: Step out of line and you are next.


It has worked. A recent CATO study found that 62 percent of Americans are afraid to voice their true views. Nearly a quarter of American academics endorse ousting a colleague for having a wrong opinion about hot-button issues such as immigration or gender differences. And nearly 70 percent of students favor reporting professors if the professor says something that students find offensive, according to a Challey Institute for Global Innovation survey.

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Just as in China under Chairman Mao, the seeds of our own cultural revolution can be traced to the academy, the first of our institutions to be overtaken by it. And our schools—public, private, parochial—are increasingly the recruiting grounds for this ideological army.

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A recent educational program for sixth to eighth grade teachers called "a pathway to equitable math instruction"—funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation—was recently sent to Oregon teachers by the state's Department of Education. The program's literature informs teachers that white supremacy shows up in math instruction when "rigor is expressed only in difficulty," and "contrived word problems are valued over the math in students' lived experiences."

Serious education is the antidote to such ignorance. Frederick Douglass said, "Education means emancipation. It means light and liberty. It means the uplifting of the soul of man into the glorious light of truth, the light only by which men can be free." Soaring words that feel as if they are a report from a distant galaxy. Education is increasingly where debate, dissent, and discovery go to die.

It's also very bad for kids.  For those deemed "privileged," it creates a hostile environment where kids are too intimidated to participate. For those deemed "oppressed," it inculcates an extraordinarily pessimistic view of the world, where students are trained to perceive malice and bigotry in everything they see. They are denied the dignity of equal standards and expectations. They are denied the belief in their own agency and ability to succeed. As Zaid Jilani had put it: "You cannot have power without responsibility. Denying minorities responsibility for their own actions, both good and bad, will only deny us the power we rightly deserve."

(...)

The revolution has been met with almost no resistance by those who have the title CEO or leader or president or principal in front of their names. The refusal of the adults in the room to speak the truth, their refusal to say no to efforts to undermine the mission of their institutions, their fear of being called a bad name and that fear trumping their responsibility—that is how we got here.

(...)

As Douglas Murray has put it: "The problem is not that the sacrificial victim is selected. The problem is that the people who destroy his reputation are permitted to do so by the complicity, silence and slinking away of everybody else."

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Gordon Klein, a professor at UCLA, recently filed suit against his own university. Why? A student asked him to grade black students with "greater leniency." He refused, given that such a racial preference would violate UCLA's anti-discrimination policies (and maybe even the law). But the people in charge of UCLA's Anderson School launched a racial-discrimination complaint into him. They denounced him, banned him from campus, appointed a monitor to look at his emails, and suspended him. He eventually was reinstated—because he had done absolutely nothing wrong—but not before his reputation and career were severely damaged. "I don't want to see anyone else's life destroyed as they attempted to do to me," Klein told me. "Few have the intestinal fortitude to fight cancel culture. I do. This is about sending a message to every petty tyrant out there."

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 19.10.2021, 12:19:00
Quote from: zupi on 04.10.2021, 22:00:28
Kovat tieteenalat kyykkää myös.

Quote1/ Dorian Abbot is a geophysicist at the University of Chicago. He was to give MIT's prestigious Carlson Lecture on Oct. 21. The topic was to be climates of extrasolar planets. Shamefully, MIT canceled the lecture under pressure from activists who objected to his political views.

2/ Those who pressured MIT to cancel Dr. Abbot's lecture oppose his views on "diversity, equity, and inclusion": https://newsweek.com/diversity-problem-campus-opinion-1618419. As you can see, these have nothing to do with the topic of his Carlson Lecture. The activists cancel anyone who dissents from their dogmas.

3/ It is impossible to exaggerate how disgraceful MIT's capitulation to a mob's demands to cancel Dr. Dorian Abbot's lecture is. That he was qualified on the basis of his achievements as as a geophysical scientist to give the Carlson Lecture was never questioned--nor could it be.

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Niin, ja mitäs karmeita törkeyksiä se Abbot sitten kirjoitteli:

QuoteThe Diversity Problem on Campus | Opinion

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DEI violates the ethical and legal principle of equal treatment. It entails treating people as members of a group rather than as individuals, repeating the mistake that made possible the atrocities of the 20th century. It requires being willing to tell an applicant "I will ignore your merits and qualifications and deny you admission because you belong to the wrong group, and I have defined a more important social objective that justifies doing so." It treats persons as merely means to an end, giving primacy to a statistic over the individuality of a human being.

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Asiaan liittyen. Eli yhteenvetona, jos puhut wokeismia vastaan, niin sinut käytännössä pyyhitään pois "tiede"maailmasta. Vain aatteen kannattajilla (ja siihen alistuvilla) on puheoikeus. Ja tuota poppoota suomalaiset "erittäin fiksut ihmiset"kin juhlistavat, ja mätämedia nostaa yhä kiihtyvällä tahdilla hulluwokstereita jalustalle. Mitä hullumpia, sitä parempi. Maltillisempaan suuntaanhan tuo liike ei tule kehittymään ikinä. Jokainen ymmärtänee, millaisissa kantimissa esim. ilmastonmuutokseen liittyvä "tutkimus" nykyisin on.

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QuoteI am resigning as Director of the Berkeley Atmospheric Sciences Center (BASC) @BerkeleyAtmo. To reduce the odds of being mischaracterized, I want to explain my decision here.

Last month, the MIT Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences @eapsMIT canceled a science lecture because of the invited scientist's political views. That scientist does excellent work in areas of interest to BASC (he visited us at our invitation in 2014).

Therefore, I asked the BASC faculty if we might invite that scientist to speak to us in the coming months to hear the science talk he had prepared and, by extending the invitation now, reaffirm that BASC is a purely scientific organization, not a political one.

In the ensuing discussion among the BASC faculty, it became unclear to me whether we could invite that scientist ever again, let alone now.

I was hoping we could agree that BASC does not consider an individual's political or social opinions when selecting speakers for its events, except for cases in which the opinions give a reasonable expectation that members of our community would be treated with disrespect.

Unfortunately, it is unclear when or if we might reach agreement on this point.

The stated mission of BASC is to serve as "the hub for UC Berkeley's research on the science of the atmosphere, its interactions with Earth systems, and the future of Earth's climate."

I believe that mission has its greatest chance of success when the tent is made as big as possible, including with respect to ethnicity, gender, age, disability, sexual orientation, religion, family status, and political ideas.

Excluding people because of their political and social views diminishes the pool of scientists with which members of BASC can interact and reduces the opportunities for learning and collaboration.

More broadly, such exclusion signals that some opinions -- even well-intentioned ones -- are forbidden, thereby increasing self-censorship, degrading public discourse, and contributing to our nation's political balkanization.


I hold BASC and its faculty -- my friends and colleagues -- in the highest regard, and so it has been a great honor to serve as BASC's director these past five years. But it was never my intention to lead an organization that is political or even ambiguously so.

Consequently, I am stepping down from the directorship at the end of this calendar year or when a replacement is ready, whichever is sooner.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 21.10.2021, 12:21:55
^ Nyt näköjään The Sonta Timeskin nosti asian esiin.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/us/dorian-abbot-mit.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/20/us/dorian-abbot-mit.html)

En nyt tuota hulluwokstereita ymmärtävää kirjoitusta ala enempää lainailemaan (ei siinä itse asiaan ollut mitään uutta), mutta pari kohtaa kuitenkin.

Järkevä ihminen:

Quote"I thought scientists would not get on board with the denial-of-free-speech movement," said Jerry Coyne, an emeritus professor of evolutionary biology at the University of Chicago. "I was absolutely wrong, 100 percent so."

Hulluwoksteri:

QuotePhoebe A. Cohen is a geosciences professor and department chair at Williams College and one of many who expressed anger on Twitter at M.I.T.'s decision to invite Dr. Abbot to speak, given that he has spoken against affirmative action in the past.

Dr. Cohen agreed that Dr. Abbot's views reflect a broad current in American society. Ideally, she said, a university should not invite speakers who do not share its values on diversity and affirmative action. Nor was she enamored of M.I.T.'s offer to let him speak at a later date to the M.I.T. professors. "Honestly, I don't know that I agree with that choice," she said. "To me, the professional consequences are extremely minimal."

What, she was asked, of the effect on academic debate? Should the academy serve as a bastion of unfettered speech?

"This idea of intellectual debate and rigor as the pinnacle of intellectualism comes from a world in which white men dominated," she replied.

Onkohan kaikki ei-valkoiset ja naiset samaa mieltä tuosta viimeisestä lauseesta...  ???
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 21.10.2021, 21:54:51
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Pahoja ihmisiä:

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Wokstereiden perussettiä. Jos oikeasti pitää alkaa keskustelemaan asioista, jolloin luonnollisesti käy heti ilmi wokstereiden sekopäisyys, niin eri mieltä olevat muuttuvat heti "väkivaltaisiksi ekstremisteiksi" / terroristeiksi (tai sitten puhtaasti hulluiksi murhaajiksi), jotka pitää vaientaa tarvittaessa väkivalloin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 22.10.2021, 12:32:49
Tätähän tämä, mikä tahansa pahuus on ok, kunhan olet woke. Ja vastauksena tuohon kysymykseen, kyllä vasurit vihaavat konservatiiveja kaikkia eri mieltä olevia niin paljon. Eivät ne lapset merkkaa wokstereille läheskään niin paljon kuin aate.

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QuoteWhen Did Sexual Assault In Schools Become A Partisan Issue?
If we can't agree that young girls being raped at school is an outrage, what can we agree on?

In 2014, Rolling Stone published a story about a female student named "Jackie" who claimed she was raped at a fraternity party at the University of Virginia.

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The story, we now know, later unraveled, leading to a retraction from Rolling Stone and massive defamation lawsuits. But not before the appalling tale of a helpless young woman being brutally assaulted on an educational campus shook Americans' sensibilities. No one was disagreeing that, if true, the incident deserved horror, outrage, and efforts to try and keep such abuses from happening again.

Just seven years later, a similarly harrowing tale has emerged just 100 or so miles away from U-Va., in Loudoun County, Va. An investigation from The Daily Wire earlier this month reported allegations from Loudoun County father Scott Smith that in May, "a boy allegedly wearing a skirt entered a girls' bathroom at nearby Stone Bridge High School, where he sexually assaulted Smith's ninth-grade daughter."

"A boy was charged with two counts of forcible sodomy, one count of anal sodomy, and one count of forcible fellatio, related to an incident that day at that school," according to Smith's attorney.


But instead of receiving national outrage across the political and media landscape, the alleged incident was reportedly covered up by the Loudoun County School Board for months. In a June meeting, board members insisted they didn't know of any such assaults. After showing up to a school board meeting in protest, Smith was arrested and smeared as a "domestic terrorist."

Days after the Daily Wire investigation broke, another report alleged the school district had been failing to report sexual assault claims for years. Meanwhile, LCPS appears to have quietly transferred the alleged rapist to another school, where he has since been accused of another sexual assault of a female student.

Where is the outrage? A search for "Scott Smith Loudoun" returns zero results on the Washington Post's website, despite Loudoun County's close proximity to the Post's home city. On Tuesday, the Post finally published something on the story, but failed to mention Smith by name and initially failed to admit that the alleged attacker identified as "gender fluid."

A search for "Scott Smith Loudoun" or "Loudoun sexual assault" returned no results from The New York Times on Wednesday. The extent to which CNN covered the story was to say "[Republican gubernatorial candidate Glenn] Youngkin on Tuesday promised action following parental outrage over two recent alleged assaults in public schools in the state's Loudoun County," immediately after a paragraph of damage control for Democrat candidate Terry McAuliffe's statement that "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."

Can you imagine if, instead of discovering holes in the U-Va. story, additional coverage had revealed that the school had been covering up other sexual assault allegations for years?

Or, if the allegations in the Rolling Stone story had been true, can you imagine if U-Va. had quietly moved the rapists to another fraternity and tried to cover the whole thing up? Or tried to smear Jackie and her family as "domestic terrorists"?


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In a widening partisan divide, if we can't agree that young girls being raped at school is an outrage, what can we agree on? Does the left hate conservatives with such vitriol that, once voices on the right speak up for a young girl's right to bodily safety, that issue is suddenly anathema, tainted by the fingerprints of concerned parents slandered as domestic terrorists?

Plenty of other common-sense perspectives that any Democrat nominee would have supported up to a couple of years ago have suddenly become "radical" conservative positions too: funding police departments, not segregating kids in school based on race, having international borders, or allowing people to make their own medical decisions without government coercion. Any of these should have been enough to make Americans stop and wonder why the rules of the game are changing so drastically — and who is changing them.

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https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/21/when-did-sexual-assault-in-schools-become-a-partisan-issue/ (https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/21/when-did-sexual-assault-in-schools-become-a-partisan-issue/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.10.2021, 00:43:00
Putin Warns Wokeness is DESTROYING the West!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoUBHIy8gLE
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.10.2021, 00:17:24
^ Pistetään aiheeseen liittyvä pätkä puheesta tähän. Onhan tämä vähän "hauskaa", että Putputin kuulostaa noin kymmenen kertaa järkevämmältä kuin lännen mädättävät elitistit.

QuoteThe importance of a solid support in the sphere of morals, ethics and values is increasing dramatically in the modern fragile world. In point of fact, values are a product, a unique product of cultural and historical development of any nation. The mutual interlacing of nations definitely enriches them, openness expands their horizons and allows them to take a fresh look at their own traditions. But the process must be organic, and it can never be rapid. Any alien elements will be rejected anyway, possibly bluntly. Any attempts to force one's values on others with an uncertain and unpredictable outcome can only further complicate a dramatic situation and usually produce the opposite reaction and an opposite from the intended result.

We look in amazement at the processes underway in the countries which have been traditionally looked at as the standard-bearers of progress. Of course, the social and cultural shocks that are taking place in the United States and Western Europe are none of our business; we are keeping out of this. Some people in the West believe that an aggressive elimination of entire pages from their own history, "reverse discrimination" against the majority in the interests of a minority, and the demand to give up the traditional notions of mother, father, family and even gender, they believe that all of these are the mileposts on the path towards social renewal.

Listen, I would like to point out once again that they have a right to do this, we are keeping out of this. But we would like to ask them to keep out of our business as well. We have a different viewpoint, at least the overwhelming majority of Russian society – it would be more correct to put it this way – has a different opinion on this matter. We believe that we must rely on our own spiritual values, our historical tradition and the culture of our multiethnic nation.

The advocates of so-called 'social progress' believe they are introducing humanity to some kind of a new and better consciousness. Godspeed, hoist the flags as we say, go right ahead. The only thing that I want to say now is that their prescriptions are not new at all. It may come as a surprise to some people, but Russia has been there already. After the 1917 revolution, the Bolsheviks, relying on the dogmas of Marx and Engels, also said that they would change existing ways and customs and not just political and economic ones, but the very notion of human morality and the foundations of a healthy society. The destruction of age-old values, religion and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones – all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today. By the way, the Bolsheviks were absolutely intolerant of opinions other than theirs.

This, I believe, should call to mind some of what we are witnessing now. Looking at what is happening in a number of Western countries, we are amazed to see the domestic practices, which we, fortunately, have left, I hope, in the distant past. The fight for equality and against discrimination has turned into aggressive dogmatism bordering on absurdity, when the works of the great authors of the past – such as Shakespeare – are no longer taught at schools or universities, because their ideas are believed to be backward. The classics are declared backward and ignorant of the importance of gender or race. In Hollywood memos are distributed about proper storytelling and how many characters of what colour or gender should be in a movie. This is even worse than the agitprop department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

Countering acts of racism is a necessary and noble cause, but the new 'cancel culture' has turned it into 'reverse discrimination' that is, reverse racism. The obsessive emphasis on race is further dividing people, when the real fighters for civil rights dreamed precisely about erasing differences and refusing to divide people by skin colour. I specifically asked my colleagues to find the following quote from Martin Luther King: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by their character." This is the true value. However, things are turning out differently there. By the way, the absolute majority of Russian people do not think that the colour of a person's skin or their gender is an important matter. Each of us is a human being. This is what matters.

In a number of Western countries, the debate over men's and women's rights has turned into a perfect phantasmagoria. Look, beware of going where the Bolsheviks once planned to go – not only communalising chickens, but also communalising women. One more step and you will be there.

Zealots of these new approaches even go so far as to want to abolish these concepts altogether. Anyone who dares mention that men and women actually exist, which is a biological fact, risk being ostracised. "Parent number one" and "parent number two," "'birthing parent" instead of "mother," and "human milk" replacing "breastmilk" because it might upset the people who are unsure about their own gender. I repeat, this is nothing new; in the 1920s, the so-called Soviet Kulturtraegers also invented some newspeak believing they were creating a new consciousness and changing values that way. And, as I have already said, they made such a mess it still makes one shudder at times.

Not to mention some truly monstrous things when children are taught from an early age that a boy can easily become a girl and vice versa. That is, the teachers actually impose on them a choice we all supposedly have. They do so while shutting the parents out of the process and forcing the child to make decisions that can upend their entire life. They do not even bother to consult with child psychologists – is a child at this age even capable of making a decision of this kind? Calling a spade a spade, this verges on a crime against humanity, and it is being done in the name and under the banner of progress.

Well, if someone likes this, let them do it. I have already mentioned that, in shaping our approaches, we will be guided by a healthy conservatism. That was a few years ago, when passions on the international arena were not yet running as high as they are now, although, of course, we can say that clouds were gathering even then. Now, when the world is going through a structural disruption, the importance of reasonable conservatism as the foundation for a political course has skyrocketed – precisely because of the multiplying risks and dangers, and the fragility of the reality around us.

This conservative approach is not about an ignorant traditionalism, a fear of change or a restraining game, much less about withdrawing into our own shell. It is primarily about reliance on a time-tested tradition, the preservation and growth of the population, a realistic assessment of oneself and others, a precise alignment of priorities, a correlation of necessity and possibility, a prudent formulation of goals, and a fundamental rejection of extremism as a method. And frankly, in the impending period of global reconstruction, which may take quite long, with its final design being uncertain, moderate conservatism is the most reasonable line of conduct, as far as I see it. It will inevitably change at some point, but so far, do no harm – the guiding principle in medicine – seems to be the most rational one. Noli nocere, as they say.

Again, for us in Russia, these are not some speculative postulates, but lessons from our difficult and sometimes tragic history. The cost of ill-conceived social experiments is sometimes beyond estimation. Such actions can destroy not only the material, but also the spiritual foundations of human existence, leaving behind moral wreckage where nothing can be built to replace it for a long time.

https://valdaiclub.com/events/posts/articles/vladimir-putin-meets-with-members-of-the-valdai-discussion-club-transcript-of-the-18th-plenary-session/ (https://valdaiclub.com/events/posts/articles/vladimir-putin-meets-with-members-of-the-valdai-discussion-club-transcript-of-the-18th-plenary-session/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 25.10.2021, 01:25:34
Olen miettinyt tätä hulluutta normaalia enemmän nyt kun olen joutunut sitä itsekin päivittäin näkemään, tilanne on siis nyt:
- Koulut on kyllästetty tällä aatteella
- Valtiot levittää tätä aatetta
- Some & media on täynnä tätä aatetta
Mitään jarrua ei näy tämän aatteen leviämiselle, vaan se tulee kyllästämään koko yhteiskunnan jokaista koloa myöten, aina vain hullumpana.

Mikä minulla kiinnostaa on se, että miten ihmeessä tästä aatteesta joskus tulevaisuudessa päästään eroon?

En pysty oikein muuta ulospääsyä näkemään kuin lännen romahtamisen, sisällisodat ja sieltä sitten tulee voittajina joko järki tai hulluus entistä kovempana. Tosin sitäkään ei ehkä tule kun teknologia mahdollistaa ennennäkemättömän poliisivaltion ja sensuurin. Joku vastareaktio todennäköisesti tulee ennen romahdusta ja oikeisto nousee valtaan siellä ja täällä, mutta ei sekään tuota aatetta mitenkään kitke pois, nykyoikeisto on täysin munatonta ja edes aatteen kieltäminen ei poista yhteiskunnan jokaisen tason lävistäneitä propagandisteja.

Ehkä koko länsi tyytyy vain dystopiaansa tekemättä mitään.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 25.10.2021, 01:57:07
Jos olisimme islamilaisessa kalifaatissa, siellä ei varmasti olisi wokea. Talebanin hallitsemassa Afganistanissa ei sitä ole. En nyt kuitenkaan halua kalifaattia sen takia enkä muutenkaan.

Yksi keino vastustaa wokea olisi käynnistää rinnakkaisyhteiskunta jossa pyritään siihen ettei olla riippuvaisia virallisesta yhteiskunnasta. Oma talous, oma ruokahuolto, oma energiahuolto, oma media, oma internet, oma some, omat koulut...jne

Rinnakkaisyhteiskunnan ideaa kehitettiin Tsekkoslovakiassa kommunistiaikana. Kommunistimaissa oli musta pörssi josta sai kaikkea, joten sekin oli eräs rinnakkaisyhteiskunnan ilmenemismuoto.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Polis

Steve Turley puhuu videoillaan usein tuosta rinnakkaisyhteiskunnasta
https://www.youtube.com/c/DrSteveTurleyTV/videos

Kotikoulujen suosio on kasvanut rajahdysmäisesti USA:ssa. Yksityiskoulujen ja kotikoulujen suosio kasvanee Suomessakin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.10.2021, 20:57:42
Quote from: Radio on 06.10.2021, 01:05:37
Critical Social Justice. Kolmen sanan megavalhe. Kriittisyys, mitä kohtaan?

Tämä lähti liikkeelle joskus kauan, kauan aikaa sitten, ja kyseessä oli critical theory, joka oli äärikriittinen länsimaista sivistystä, tarvettä järkeä ja markkinataloutta vastaan, sekä ja kaikkea mikä on kaunista ja hyvää. Se sponsoroi hulluutta, mielivaltaa ja terrorismia, sekä kaikkea mikä on pahaa ja rumaa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory

Tuolta löytyy salakielistä paskapuhetta aiheesta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.10.2021, 23:49:01
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.10.2021, 20:57:42

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Tämä lähti liikkeelle joskus kauan, kauan aikaa sitten, ja kyseessä oli critical theory, joka oli äärikriittinen länsimaista sivistystä, tarvettä järkeä ja markkinataloutta vastaan, sekä ja kaikkea mikä on kaunista ja hyvää. Se sponsoroi hulluutta, mielivaltaa ja terrorismia, sekä kaikkea mikä on pahaa ja rumaa.

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Vähän tarkempaa kuvausta asiasta Pat Buchananin kirjasta THE DEATH OF THE WEST, vuodelta 2001. Tästäkin oli Hommalla lainaus jo 2009:

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,9616.msg152618.html#msg152618 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,9616.msg152618.html#msg152618)

Kuulostaako nuo kirjassa esitetyt asiat jokseenkin tutuilta nykypäivänä... Pat oli asioiden päällä jo aika varhaisessa vaiheessa. Ei liene yllätys, että Pat oli aikanaan Ronald Reaganin palveluksessa. Mihin pyydettiin myös Thomas Sowellia, joka ei akateemikkona siihen lähtenyt. Enkä ole itse Patin kanssa samaa mieltä luultavasti useammastakin asiasta. Hmm, pitäisiköhän olla, jos se auttaa havaitsemaan tuon vasurikuonan nousun mahdollisimman aikaisessa vaiheessa ja auttaa pitämään heidät kurissa...  ???

Noissa lainauksissa voi heittää Suomen Amerikan tilalle aika huoletta.

Quote from: Patrick J. Buchanan, "THE DEATH OF THE WEST", 2001THE FRANKFURT SCHOOL COMES TO AMERICA

In .1923, Lukács and members of the German Communist party set up, at Frankfurt University, an Institute for Marxism modeled on the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow. After some reflection, they settled on a less provocative name, the Institute for Social Research. It would soon come to be known simply as the Frankfurt School.

In 1930, a renegade Marxist and admirer of the Marquis de Sade, Max Horkheimer, became its director. Horkheimer, too, had concluded that Marx had gotten it wrong. The working class was not up to its role as the vanguard of the revolution. Already, Western workers were happily moving into the middle class, the detested bourgeoisie. They had failed the Marxists, who would not have been surprised by events on Wall Street in May 1970, when radicals and students protesting Nixon's Cambodian incursion were beaten up by construction workers of the building trades union of Pete Brennan, whom Nixon would then install as his secretary of labor.

At Horkheimer's direction, the Frankfurt School began to retranslate Marxism into cultural terms. The old battlefield manuals were thrown out, and new manuals were written. To old Marxists, the enemy was capitalism; to new Marxists, the enemy was Western culture. To old Marxists, the path to power was the violent overthrow of the regime, as in Paris in 1789 and in St. Petersburg in 1917. To the new Marxist, the path to power was nonviolent and would require decades of patient labor. Victory would come only after Christian beliefs had died in the soul of Western Man. And that would happen only after the institutions of culture and education had been captured and conscripted by allies and agents of the revolution. Occupy the cultural institutions of the West, its "fortresses and earthworks," and the state, the "outer ditch," would fall without a fight.

For old and new Marxists both, however, the definition of morality remained: what advances the revolution is moral, what obstructs it is not. As Hudson Institute scholar John Fonte writes, Gramsci believed in "absolute historicism," meaning that morals, values, truth, standards and human nature itself are products of different historical epochs. There are no absolute moral standards that are universally true for all human beings outside of a particular historical context; rather, morality is "socially constructed."9

When Ronald Reagan famously blurted that the Soviets "reserve to themselves the right to lie, steal and cheat," he hit on a truth that an honest Marxist would not strenuously contest, though the remark almost caused a collective nervous breakdown at the Department of State.10

About this same time, music critic Theodor Adorno, psychologist Erich Fromm, and sociologist Wilhelm Reich joined the Frankfurt School. But, in 1933, history rudely intruded. Adolf Hitler ascended to power in Berlin, and as the leading lights of the Frankfurt School were Jewish and Marxist, they were not a good fit for the Third Reich. The Frankfurt School packed its ideology and fled to America.

Also departing was a graduate student by the name of Herbert Marcuse. With the assistance of Columbia University, they set up their new Frankfurt School in New York City and redirected their talents and energies to undermining the culture of the country that had given them refuge.

Among the new weapons of cultural conflict the Frankfurt School developed was Critical Theory. The name sounds benign enough, but it stands for a practice that is anything but benign. One student of Critical Theory defined it as the "essentially destructive criticism of all the main elements of Western culture, including Christianity, capitalism, authority, the family, patriarchy, hierarchy, morality, tradition, sexual restraint, loyalty, patriotism, nationalism, heredity, ethnocentrism, convention and conservatism."11

Using Critical Theory, for example, the cultural Marxist repeats and repeats the charge that the West is guilty of genocidal crimes against every civilization and culture it has encountered. Under Critical Theory, one repeats and repeats that Western societies are history's greatest repositories of racism, sexism, nativism, xenophobia, homophobia, anti-Semitism, fascism, and Nazism. Under Critical Theory, the crimes of the West flow from the character of the West, as shaped by Christianity. One modem example is "attack politics," where "surrogates" and "spin doctors" never defend their own candidate, but attack and attack the opposition. Another example of Critical Theory is the relentless assault on Pius XII as complicit in the Holocaust, no matter the volumes of evidence that show that accusation to be a lie.

Critical Theory eventually induces "cultural pessimism," a sense of alienation, of hopelessness, of despair where, even though prosperous and free, a people comes to see its society and country as oppressive, evil, and unworthy of its loyalty and love. The new Marxists considered cultural pessimism a necessary precondition of revolutionary change.

Under the impact of Critical Theory, many of the sixties generation, the most privileged in history, convinced themselves that they were living in an intolerable hell. In The Greening of America, which enthralled Senator McGovern, Justice Douglas, and the Washington Post, Charles Reich spoke of a "total atmosphere of violence" in America's high schools.12 This was thirty years before Columbine, and Reich did not mean guns and knives:

An examination or test is a form of violence. Compulsory gym, to one embarrassed or afraid, is a form of violence. The requirement that a student must get a pass to walk in the hallway is violence. Compulsory attendance in the classroom, compulsory studying in study hall, is violence.13

Erich Fromm's Escape from Freedom and Wilhelm Reich's The Mass Psychology of Fascism and The Sexual Revolution reflect Critical Theory. But the most influential book the Frankfurt School ever published was The Authoritarian Personality. In this altarpiece of the Frankfurt School, Karl Marx's economic determinism is replaced with cultural determinism. If a family is deeply Christian and capitalist, ruled by an authoritarian father, you may expect the children to grow up racist and fascist. Charles Sykes, senior fellow at the Wisconsin Policy Research Center, describes The Authoritarian Personality as "an uncompromising indictment of bourgeois civilization, with the twist that what was considered merely old-fashioned by previous critics was now declared both fascistic and psychologically warped."14

Where Marx criminalized the capitalist class, the Frankfurt School criminalized the middle class. That the middle class had given birth to democracy and that middle-class Britain had been fighting Hitler when the comrades of the Frankfurt School in Moscow were cohabiting with him did not matter. Nor did it matter that middle-class America had given Adorno and his colleagues a sanctuary when they had fled the Nazis. The truth did not matter, for these were Marxist ideologues, and they alone defined truth.

Having discovered fascism's nesting ground in patriarchal families, Adorno now identified its natural habitat: traditional culture: "It is a well-known hypothesis that susceptibility to fascism is most characteristically a middle-class phenomenon, that 'it is in the culture' and, hence, that those who conform the most to this culture will be the most prejudiced."15

Edmund Burke once wrote, "I would not know how to draw up an indictment against a whole people."16 Adorno and the Frankfurt School, however, had just done exactly that. They flatly asserted that individuals raised in families dominated by the father, who are flag-waving patriots and follow the old-time religion, are incipient fascists and potential Nazis. As a conservative Christian culture breeds fascism, those deeply immersed in such a culture must be closely watched for fascist tendencies.

These ideas have been internalized by the Left. As early as the mid- 1960s, conservatives and authority figures who denounced or opposed the campus revolution were routinely branded "fascists." Baby boomers were unknowingly following a script that ran parallel to the party line laid down by the Moscow Central Committee in 1943:

Members and front organizations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi or anti-Semitic.... The association will, after enough repetition, become "fact" in the public mind.17

(...)

Another of the insights of Horkheimer and Adorno was to realize that the road to cultural hegemony was through psychological conditioning, not philosophical argument. America's children could be conditioned at school to reject their parents' social and moral beliefs as racist, sexist, and homophobic, and conditioned to embrace a new morality. Though the Frankfurt School remains unfamiliar to most Americans, its ideas were well-known at the teachers' colleges back in the 1940s and 1950s.

The school openly stated that whether children learned facts or skills at school was less important than that they graduate conditioned to display the correct attitudes. When Allan Bloom wrote in The Closing of the American Mind that "American high school graduates are among the most sensitive illiterates in the world," with some of the lowest test scores on earth in comparative exams, but the highest scores for sensitivity to issues like the environment, Bloom was testifying to the success of the Frankfurt School.20 Parents may consider today's public schools costly failures where children no lunger learn. To the Frankfurt School, they are a success; for the children coming out of them exhibit all the right attitudes. On entering college, these students now go through orientation sessions, where they are instructed in the new values that obtain on college campuses—to get their minds right, as the warden said in Cool Hand Luke.

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But the importance of schools in conditioning the minds of the young was soon surpassed by that of the new media: TV and movies. (...)

During the fifties, the Frankfurt School lacked a personality to popularize the ideas buried in the glutinous prose of Horkheimer and Adorno. Enter Herbert Marcuse, ex-OSS officer and Brandeis professor, whose ambition was to be not only a man of words but a revolutionary man of action. Marcuse provided the answer to Hork- heimer's question: Who will play the role of the proletariat in the coming cultural revolution?

Marcuse's candidates: radical youth, feminists, black militants, homosexuals, the alienated, the asocial, Third World revolutionaries, all the angry voices of the persecuted "victims" of the West. This was the new proletariat that would overthrow Western culture. Among the "oppressed," the potential recruits for his revolution, Gramsci himself had included all the "marginalized groups of history . . . not only economically oppressed, but also women, racial minorities, and many 'criminals.' "22 Charles Reich was the echo of Marcuse and Gramsci: "One of the ways the new generation struggles to feel itself as outsiders is to identify with the blacks, with the poor, with Bonnie and Clyde, and with the losers of this world."23 Coincidentally, in 1968, the year Bonnie and Clyde, a film romanticizing two perverted killers, was nominated for an Academy Award, two of Reich's "losers," Sirhan Sirhan and James Earl Ray, achieved immortality with the assassinations of Robert Kennedy and Dr. King.

Past societies had been subverted by words and books, but Marcuse believed that sex and drugs were superior weapons. In Eros and Civilization, Marcuse urged a universal embrace of the Pleasure Principle. Reject the cultural order entirely, said Marcuse (this was his "Great Refusal"), and we can create a world of "polymorphous perversity."24 As millions of baby boomers flooded the campuses, his moment came.

Marcuse's books were consumed. He became a cult figure. When students revolted in Paris in 1968, they carried banners proclaiming "Marx, Mao, and Marcuse."

"Make love, not war" was Marcuse's own inspired slogan. In One Dimensional Man, he advocated an educational dictatorship. In "Repressive Tolerance," he called for a new "liberating tolerance" that entails "intolerance against movements from the right, and toleration of movements from the left."25 Full of Marcusian conviction, sixties students shouted down defenders of the U.S. war effort in Vietnam and welcomed radicals waving Vietcong flags. On some campuses, paroled killers can today find more receptive audiences than can conservatives. The double standard against which the Right rages, and which permits conservatives to be pilloried for sins that are forgiven the Left, is "repressive tolerance" in action. Marcuse did not disguise what he was about. In Carnivorous Society, he wrote:

One can rightfully speak of a cultural revolution, since the protest is directed toward the whole cultural establishment... there is one thing we can say with complete assurance. The traditional idea of revolution and the traditional strategy of revolution have ended. These ideas are old-fashioned ... what we must undertake is a type of diffuse and dispersed disintegration of the system.26

The "diffuse and dispersed disintegration of the system" means nothing less than the abolition of America. Like Gramsci, Marcuse had transcended Marx. The old Marxist vision of workers rising up to overthrow their capitalist rulers was yesterday. Today, Herbert Marcuse and his cohorts would put an end to a corrupt Western civilization by occupying its cultural institutions and converting them into agencies of reeducation and of revolution. As Roger Kimball, author and editor at the New Criterion, writes:

In the context of Western societies, the "long march through the institutions" signified—in the words of Herbert Marcuse—"working against the established institutions while working in them." It was primarily by this means—by insinuation and infiltration rather than confrontation—that the countercultural dreams of radicals like Marcuse have triumphed.27

For cultural Marxists, no cause ranked higher than the abolition of the family, which they despised as a dictatorship and the incubator of sexism and social injustice.

Hostility to the traditional family was not new to Marxists. In The German Ideology, Marx himself wrote that patriarchal males consider wives and children first as property. In The Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, Engels popularized the feminist conviction that all discrimination against women proceeds from the patriarchal family. Erich Fromm argued that differences between the sexes were not inherent, but a fiction of Western culture. Fromm became a founding father of feminism. To Wilhelm Reich, "The authoritarian family is the authoritarian state in miniature.... Familial imperialism is ... reproduced in national imperialism." To Adorno, the patriarchal family was the cradle of fascism.

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Like Lukaes, Wilhelm Reich believed the way to destroy the family was through revolutionary sexual politics and early sex education. The appearance of sex education in elementary schools in America owes a debt to Lukaes, Reich, and the Frankfurt School.

In the death of the West, the Frankfurt School must be held as a prime suspect and principal accomplice. The propaganda assault on the family it advocated has contributed to the collapse of the family. (...)

No such "mood change" is remotely visible on the Old Continent, where birthrates continue to fall. In helping to undermine the family and induce cultural pessimism, the Frankfurt School can claim a share of the credit for having assisted in the suicide of the West.

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In a third of a century, what was denounced as the counterculture has become the dominant culture, and what was the dominant culture has become, in Gertrude Himmelfarb's phrase, a "dissident culture."30 America has become an ideological state, a "soft tyranny," where the new orthodoxy is enforced, not by police agents, but by inquisitors of the popular culture. We see it in the mandatory requirement for "sensitivity training" in the military, in business, and in government. Turn on the TV and observe. The values of the revolution dominate the medium. Political correctness rules. Defiance of our new orthodoxy qualifies as "hate speech," disrespect for its dogmas as a sign of mental sickness. "Get John Rocker to a psychiatrist!" A few years back, a wag described America's universities as "islands of totalitarianism in a sea of freedom." Now even the sea has become inhospitable. (...)

Political correctness is cultural Marxism, a regime to punish dissent and to stigmatize social heresy as the Inquisition punished religious heresy. Its trademark is intolerance. By classifying its adversaries as haters, or mentally ill, writes journalist Peter Hitchens in his lament for his country, The Abolition of Britain, the new regime imitates the methods of the Soviet Union's Serbsky Institute, which used to classify political dissidents like Natan Sharansky as insane before locking them up in a psychiatric hospital.32 What Americans describe with the "casual phrase... political correctness," says Hitchens, is "the most intolerant system of thought to dominate the British Isles since the Reformation."33 As it is in the United States.

To oppose affirmative action qualifies one as a racist. To insist there are roles in society unfit for women, such as Navy carrier pilot, is to be branded a sexist. If you believe immigration is far too high for our social cohesion, you are a nativist or a xenophobe. (...)

Words are weapons, said Orwell. Traditionalists have yet to discover effective countermeasures. By calling an enemy a racist or fascist, you no longer need answer his arguments. He must defend his character. In a court of law, the accused is innocent until proven guilty. But if the charge is racism, homophobia, or sexism, there is today the presumption of guilt. Innocence must be proven by the accused beyond a reasonable doubt.

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That lukacs, gramsci, Adorno, Marcuse, and the Frankfurt School had immense influence on America's cultural and intellectual history is undeniable. But, unlike the Bolsheviks, they did not storm a Winter Palace, they did not seize power, and they did not impose their ideas by force and terror; they were not giants, like Marx, to whom men paid homage. Few Americans even know who they were. Not one, not even Marcuse, was a St. Paul, a Luther, or a Wesley. They were intellectual renegades and moral misfits, yes, but they were also men who thought "outside the box" and put into circulation the ideas of how a successful revolution might be launched in the West, against the West. And their ideas have triumphed. America's elites, who may not even know today who the Frankfurt thinkers were, have taken to their ideas like catnip.

Americans who today accept these ideas cannot know that they were hatched in a Marxist nursery in Weimar Germany or thought out in a fascist prison in Mussolini's Italy, or that their purpose was to subvert our culture and overturn our civilization. But that begs the question: Why was the America of the 1960s, if still a country immersed in its Judeo-Christian heritage, history, traditions, and beliefs, receptive to so revolutionary an agenda?

(...)

Why did they succeed? Four elements came together in the sixties to create the critical mass that exploded like Dr. Oppenheimer's device in the New Mexico desert at Alamogordo.

First was "the message in a bottle," as the men of the Frankfurt School called their ideas. And as their ideas were germinating, other Americans, alienated from a Christian and capitalist culture, were working independently on similar strategies and ideas to undermine the culture and abolish the old America they had come to detest. Nurtured for decades, these ideas began to flower in the 1960s.

Second, there arrived on campus, beginning in 1964, a huge cohort of youth who had known neither hardship nor war. The cultural revolution now had a huge, captive, and receptive audience. Spoiled and affluent, carefree, confident, liberated, and bored, these young people were ready for rebellion. And swallowing goldfish was not what they had in mind.

As conservative scholar Robert Nisbet reminds us, bordeom "is one of the most insistent and universal [of the] forces that have shaped human behavior," and the "range of cures or terminations of boredom is a wide one."41 High among them are sex, narcotics, and revolution. In the 1960s, what Arnold Toynbee called an "internal proletariat" of students, bored with their studies, encountered graduate instructors, bored with their subjects and unexciting lives—a combustible mixture.

Third, 1960s television could convey the tactics and triumphs of campus radicals and urban revolutionaries instantly to their peers. And the medium, now matured, no longer the fifties fiefdom of Howdy Doody and Matt Dillon, could not only transmit the new ideas, it could reinforce them by creating new visual realities.

The fourth indispensable element was Vietnam. If the war meant sacrifice, bloodshed, perhaps death, the Woodstock generation wanted no part of it. What Marcuse offered was intellectual cover for cowardice, a moral argument for malingering, a way to dodge the draft while feeling superior to those who went. The "real heroes" of this war, said Senator Fulbright and New York mayor John Lindsay, are in Canada. The message fell upon receptive ears in the Ivy League and not only there.

Finally, the old American establishment was broken on the wheel of Vietnam—the war that liberalism launched and could not win—and its moral authority was shattered in the eyes of the young. The path to power was thus opened to the political vessel of the counterculture, the McGovern campaign of 1972, among whose most enthusiastic workers was young Bill Clinton, the pride and paragon of the Woodstock generation.

But all this raises a greater question: Is the death of a religious-based culture inevitable once a society reaches general affluence? When a nation has overcome the hardships of its infancy and the struggles of its adolescence and manhood, and begins to produce a life of ease and luxury, does it naturally succumb to a disease of the soul that leads to decadence, decline, and death? (...)

(...)

After the collapse of the Soviet Empire, Time magazine asked, "Can the Right Survive Success?"44 Time quoted a conservative scholar as saying, "It is a sign of enormous triumph that there are no galvanizing issues for conservatives today."45

"Nothing could be further from the truth," responded James Cooper, the editor of American Arts Quarterly. "A major galvanizing issue for conservatives, indeed, for all Americans ... the great unfinished task that President Reagan alluded to in his farewell speech to the nation ... is to recapture the culture from the Left. . . ."46

While most conservatives had been fighting the Cold War, a small band had been holding down the forgotten front, the culture war. Cooper pleaded with conservatives to take up the culture war as their new cause and spoke of the territory already lost:

Seventy years ago, the Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci (1891- 1937) wrote the most important mission for Socialism was to "capture the culture." By the end of World War II, the liberal Left had managed to capture not only the arts, theater, literature, music, and ballet, but also motion pictures, photography, education and the media.

Through its control of the culture, the Left dictates not only the answers, but the questions asked. In short, it controls the cosmological apparatus by which most American comprehend the meaning of events.

This cosmology is based on two great axioms: the first is there are no absolute values in the universe, no standards of beauty and ugliness, good and evil. The second axiom is—in a Godless universe—the Left holds moral superiority as the final arbiter of man's activities.47

Conservatives ignored Cooper's cry. Instead, they fought against national health insurance and for NAFTA and the WTO. "The Right voted with their feet," said Samuel Lipman, publisher of the New Criterion,48 Added Cooper: "Conservatives returned to money-making and Cold War strategies, straightened out their George Stubbs engravings of English Thoroughbred horses on their office walls, and forgot about the whole matter. After all, they reasoned, how important is culture anyway?"49

"Where a man's purse is, there his heart will be also." The hearts of many on the Right are in cutting marginal tax rates and eliminating the capital gains tax. Good causes to be sure. But what doth it profit a man if he gain the whole world and suffer the loss of his country? Is whether the GDP rises at 2 or 3 or 4 percent as important as whether or not Western civilization endures and we remain one nation under God and one people? With the collapsing birthrate, open borders, and the triumph of an anti-Western multiculturalism, that is what is at issue today—the survival of America as a nation, separate and unique, and of Western civilization itself—and too many conservatives have gone AWOL in the last great fight of our lives.

So, let us consider what the death march of the West will mean, not just in future centuries, but in this century, and not just to our children's children, but to the generation growing up today.
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Post by: zupi on 30.10.2021, 03:08:53
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Post by: Larva on 30.10.2021, 07:29:40
^ Williamsin twiitti tuo mieleeni, että on todella vaikeaa olla tyttö/nainen nykypäivänä. Narratiivi on, että jokainen on omanlainen ja että pitää olla rohkeasti oma itsensä, mutta kuitenkin, jos et mahdu siihen ahtaaseen pikku lokeroon, jossa lukee "OIKEANLAINEN tyttö", et ole tyttö lainkaan vaan "sukupuoleton" tai "poika tytön kehossa". OIKEANLAINEN tyttö on pinkkiä ja glitteriä, hymyä ja meikkiä, hihitystä ja kyyneleitä, avuttomuutta ja pehmeyttä. Urheilullinen, poikamainen, nörtti tai ihan vaan tavallinen ei ole mikään "oikea" tyttö. Tämä on ihan järkyttävän surullista ja väärin.

Vielä 90-luvulla oli ihan tavallista, että oli tyttömäisiä tyttöjä, urheilullisia tyttöjä, nörttityttöjä ja poikatyttöjä. Oli myös urheilullisia poikia, poikamaisia poikia ja tyttömäisiä poikia. Ihan normaaleja naisia ja miehiä heistä kasvoi, eikä kukaan tullut kertomaan heille, että he eivät itse asiassa olleet oikeita poikia tai oikeita tyttöjä ja että heidän pitäisi "korjata" sukupuolensa ollakseen onnellisia.

Miksi nyt, kun kaikille on annettu lupa olla rohkeasti omanlaisensa, normit ja raamit ovat vielä ahtaammat kuin 20 vuotta sitten?

Muoks. Meniköhän nyt vähän ohi aiheen  :-[
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 30.10.2021, 08:44:45
Quote from: zupi on 21.10.2021, 12:21:55

Hulluwoksteri:

QuotePhoebe A. Cohen is a geosciences professor and department chair at Williams College and one of many who expressed anger on Twitter at M.I.T.'s decision to invite Dr. Abbot to speak, given that he has spoken against affirmative action in the past.

Dr. Cohen agreed that Dr. Abbot's views reflect a broad current in American society. Ideally, she said, a university should not invite speakers who do not share its values on diversity and affirmative action. Nor was she enamored of M.I.T.'s offer to let him speak at a later date to the M.I.T. professors. "Honestly, I don't know that I agree with that choice," she said. "To me, the professional consequences are extremely minimal."

What, she was asked, of the effect on academic debate? Should the academy serve as a bastion of unfettered speech?

"This idea of intellectual debate and rigor as the pinnacle of intellectualism comes from a world in which white men dominated," she replied.

Minding the Campus -järjestö on nyt antanut vastaperustetun Trofim Lysenko -palkinnon edellä mainitulle professori Cohenille:

https://www.mindingthecampus.org/2021/10/28/introducing-the-minding-the-campus-lysenko-award/

QuoteNevertheless, this Williams College department chair helped lead the keyboard warriors demanding that Prof. Abbot be disinvited from giving the Carlson Lecture—not because his science was unsound, or that he was unqualified, or that he had broken the law or committed a tort, but because he believes that individuals in higher education should be evaluated based on their individual merit rather than their membership in an identity group.

QuoteTrofim Lysenko would be pleased, although he likely would have formulaically dismissed the need for academic rigor and debate as being the product of fascist-bourgeois-imperialist-capitalist culture, instead of the current wokeism of "straight white men" as the source of the world's problems.

So congratulations, Williams College Professor Phoebe Cohen, you are the first recipient of the Minding the Campus Lysenko Award for the Suppression of Academic Speech.

Minusta tuo palkinto on varsin osuvasti nimitetty.  Jos ei tunnista Lysenkoa ennestään, hänestä löytyy tietoa edellä linkatulla sivulla:

QuoteThe son of Ukrainian peasant farmers and illiterate until he was 13, Lysenko became an agronomist of initially dubious reputation. His earliest experiments (which involved sowing certain crops in the winter to get yields in the spring—hardly a new idea) were marked by poor design and likely fabricated results. Nevertheless, the young Lysenko loudly proclaimed that they validated his principal theory: that genetics did not exist, and that, instead, plants and animals could simply be trained to develop heritable traits, allowing them to grow and prosper under any conditions.

Foreign scientists regarded him as a bad joke. British biologist S.C. Harland observed that Lysenko was "completely ignorant of the elementary principles of genetics and plant physiology . . . To talk to Lysenko was like trying to explain differential calculus to a man who did not know his 12-times table." When confronted with statistical errors in his results (likely occurring because he either did not understand statistics, or was simply fudging his data), Lysenko famously claimed that mathematics had no place in biology, and denounced his critics as bourgeois imperialists.

Lysenko menestyi yksinomaan siksi, että hänen pseudotieteellinen otteensa miellytti poliittista valtavirtaa (Stalin).  Nimi on varsin sopiva palkinnolle, joka annetaan poliittista hegemoniaa nuoleskeleville akateemisille keskinkertaisuuksille.  Onko kenelläkään ehdotuksia suomalaisista palkittavista? 
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Post by: zupi on 30.10.2021, 20:29:21
Vatun sekopäät.

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QuoteSCOOP: AT&T Corporation has created a race reeducation program with materials claiming that "racism is a uniquely white trait" and teaching employees: "White people, you are the problem."

Here's the full story.

I have obtained a cache of internal documents about the company's initiative, called Listen Understand Act, which is based on the core principles of critical race theory, including "intersectionality," "systemic racism," "white privilege," and "white fragility."

AT&T company instructs employees to study a resource claiming that the United States is a "racist society" and telling readers: "White people, you are the problem. Regardless of how much you say you detest racism, you are the sole reason it has flourished for centuries."

The resource claims that "American racism is a uniquely white trait" and that "Black people cannot be racist." White women, in particular, "have been telling lies on black men since they were first brought to America in chains."

In another resource, AT&T teaches that "COVID-19 may have actually helped prepare us to confront in a deeper, more meaningful way the many faces of racism" by giving whites a fear of imminent death and "brooding sense of always feeling vulnerable."

Furthermore, as millions of Americans have lost their jobs, they "have more time" to attend street protests, which provided "a way to feel like one could have an impact." The sense of "shared helplessness," the resource claims, has resulted in positive political activism.

Finally, AT&T encourages employees to participate in a 21-Day Racial Equity Habit Challenge, which teaches that "Whiteness is one of the biggest and most long-running scams ever perpetrated" and that the "weaponization of whiteness" is a "constant barrage of harm" for minorities.

The 21-Day Challenge also directs employees to articles and videos promoting fashionable left-wing causes, including "reparations," "defund police," and "trans activism," with further instruction to "follow, quote, repost, and retweet" left-wing activist organizations.

AT&T is another Fortune 100 company that has succumbed to the latest fad: corporate "diversity and inclusion" programming that traffics in the ugly concepts of race essentialism and collective guilt.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: nochWunder on 30.10.2021, 21:13:28
Quote from: zupi on 30.10.2021, 20:29:21
Vatun sekopäät.


Kaikki hyvin! Luota hallintoon. Kohta olet onnellinen. Mitään pahaa ei ole tekeillä. Ei se mitään, että samat ihmiset jotka kannattavat tuota ideologiaa, kehittivät rokotteen, jonka jokaisen pitäisi ottaa.

Kaikki on hyvin, kaikki on hyvin, kaikki on hyvin... luota... luovuta... antaudu...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 31.10.2021, 00:48:10
Erinäköisiä lainauksia, jotka mielestäni kaikki liittyvät jollain tavoin ketjun aiheeseen.

Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynYou must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators.
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynYou can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynSuch as it is, the press has become the greatest power within the Western World, more powerful than the legislature, the executive and judiciary. One would like to ask; by whom has it been elected and to whom is it responsible?
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynTo destroy a people, you must first sever their roots.
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynTo do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good... Ideology - that is what gives evildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination. That is the social theory which helps to make his acts seem good instead of bad in his own and others' eyes, so that he won't hear reproaches and curses but will receive praise and honors.
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynIt's an universal law-- intolerance is the first sign of an inadequate education. An ill-educated person behaves with arrogant impatience, whereas truly profound education breeds humility.
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynIf only it were all so simple! If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynUnlimited power in the hands of limited people always leads to cruelty.
Quote from: Aleksandr SolzhenitsynA decline in courage may be the most striking feature that an outside observer notices in the West today. The Western world has lost its civic courage... Such a decline in courage is particularly noticeable among the ruling and intellectual elite, causing an impression of a loss of courage by the entire society.
Quote from: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."
Quote from: Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn"Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free."

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Current day 'activism' has the emotional maturity of infants.

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Morality in 2021: To be seen as a 'good' person, you must be intensely hateful towards the appointed 'bad' people.

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QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla
Thread 1/ The trauma trend has popular appeal because:

•You don't have to face that something might actually be wrong.
•You don't have to look at yourself/take responsibility.
•There's an external source of blame/responsibility.
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QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla
We've socially engineered ourselves into a corner: where people hesitate to speak common sense truths because they sound 'rude' & 'invalidating'.
10:30 PM · Oct 28, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla
If you can't explain it without a word salad- you don't know what you're talking about.
9:52 PM · Oct 29, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 31.10.2021, 03:04:04
Vasureiden suuri sankari... Säälittävä rotuhuijaripaska.

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Edit. Kendillä on vähän pakka sekaisin...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 01.11.2021, 21:11:26
Jenkkien lääkärien kattojärjestö AMA (American Medical Association) on ruvennut tosissaan wokeilemaan.  Se on julkaisut opuksen "Advancing Health Equity: A Guide to Language, Narrative and Concepts", jossa järjestö opastaa lääkäreitä modernimpaan kielenkäyttöön.  Jesse Singal twiittailee tapahtumasta: 

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Ensimmäisessä tweetissä Singal siteeraa taulukkoa, jossa annetaan esimerkkejä, kuinka kieltä voisi muuttaa.  Suosituksena on, etteivät lääkärit puheissaan vain toteaisi faktoja eroista eri ryhmien välisessä kuolleisuudessa, sairastuvuudessa ja terveydenhuollon tasossa, vaan toisivat samanaikaisesti esiin myös niiden (oletetut tai todetut) yhteiskunnalliset syyt.

Singal tuo pitkässä ketjussa esiin muitakin opuksen ehdotuksia uudeksi kielenkäytöksi.  En nyt rupea  litaniaa kääntämään, kielitaitoiset voivat halutessaan perehtyä niihin itse.

Milloin Lääkäriliitto julkaisee suomalaisen version? 
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.11.2021, 12:50:32
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Quote1/ As soon as the woke start losing we see the very same people who redefined the term "white supremacy" to include everything from standards of professionalism (pic 1) to Dave Chappelle's comedy routines (pic 2), pretend to have a problem with people redefining words.
A thread

2/ The game here is simple:
The woke want to control the terms of the debate, and they use that controle to redefine words like "white supremacy" in order to give themselves the ability to tar people with extremely dangerous labels in order to further woke political goals.

3/ Words like:

-racism
-privilege
-homophobia
-trans-phobia
-white supremacy

are precisely what the woke always insist they are not: verbal weapons.

Those terms are all labels used by the woke to destroy the social standing and reputation of anyone who disagrees with them.

4/ They use those terms to label you and sinking your reputation, and they redefine the terms so you can't get the label off

They'll call you racist and if you deny it the woke will just say "he denies being racist so he must have white fragility, and white fragility is racist."

5/ However, the moment you say "Critical Race Theory is new type of racism, lets call it neo-racism," These very same people will freak out and act shocked that you would dare to label CRT as "neo-racism."

How dare you redefine things....that's their job!!!

6/ when they call you a white supremacist all they need is the vaguest, smallest connection to anything they can interpret as favoring white people in any way...even when there is no proof of the connection, or the connection to "white supremacy" is pure speculation

But...

7/ When you say that Critical Race Theory is connected to postmodernism and marxism...well if you can't quote what Kimberle Crenshaw said about postmodernism in a footnote from 1989 then your just a liar and you don't know what your talking about and shut up.

See the difference?


8/ They have two standards: one for themselves, and one for you.

When they want to define things as they see fit that's fine, when you want to define things as you see fit, then they raise hell about how you can't do that.

This is the game that they are in...

9/ They woke want control of the language so they can redefine words and give themselves the ability to smear people with labels like "racist" and "White Supremacy," while at the same time giving themselves and advantage in the conversation. It is an extremely deceptive tactic

10/ They redefine white supremacy as "anything we disagree with" and then label people who disagree as white supremacists. When a person hears the label they think "he must think white people are better than black people" even though the person who got labelled doesn't think that

11/ Stop letting them do this. We have every right to use language to describe the phenomenon of wokeness accurately.

If they can say "The repressive sublimation is deconstructed within the subjective standpoint epistemology of the marginalized racialized bodies" then I guess...

12/ Our side gets to say "Critical Race Theory is neo-racism because it splits people into groups and makes assumptions about them based on their race."

That's a perfectly fair move. It is also true.

Stop letting woke people control language. Make them define their terms and...

13/ Don't let them tar and feather people with labels they don't deserve and then say "well academically we define this as..." because we all know that the "academic meaning" is not what people think when they call someone "white supremacist" because of 10 year old tweets.

14/ Stop giving the woke the language.

They can use plain language just like the rest of us, and if they don't like that it's too bad, and they can't redefine words in to smear people while demanding that no one else define anything.

That game is over. We have had enough.

/fin

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 05.11.2021, 11:27:15
 ;D ;D ;D

Microsoft Ignite's Woke Levels Reach Critical Mass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBRtucXGeNQ
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 05.11.2021, 22:13:59
Toronton yliopistossa on uudenlainen matematiikan kurssi, suomeksi suurin piirtein "vapauttava matematiikka" (Liberating Mathematics).

https://artsci.calendar.utoronto.ca/course/mat192h1

Sitä tarjotaan ensimmäisen vuoden opiskelijoille, ja edellytetty matematiikan tietotaso on "High school level algebra". Kuten esittelystä ilmenee, kurssin sisältö on pääosin muuta kuin klassista matematiikkaa:
QuoteCurrently, mathematics is at a crossroads between tradition and progress. Progress has been led in large part by women mathematicians, in particular Black women, Indigenous women, and women from visible minorities. Intertwined in their studies of mathematics is a daring critique of traditional mathematics, re-imagining of mathematics culture, and more.
Kurssi on ilmeisen aito, ei siis mikään paikallinen keijotus.  Erikoista, että se on nimen omaan matematiikan ohjelmassa. Esittelyn mukaan tätä uutta matematiikkaa lähestytään pääosin ihmisten kokemusten ja narratiivien kautta: "This course will compare and contrast new forms of accessible mathematics with standard sources that draw dominantly on the experiences and narratives of men."

Hacker newsin kirjoittaja (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29063371) on selvittänyt opettajan (Piper Harron) ja linkannut hänen CV:nsä: https://archive.md/OK3KZ. 
Tässä Piper kuvailee väitöskirjaansa: https://archive.md/RpmvQ. 
Muuta Piperin kirjallista tuotantoa: https://archive.md/tXEaI

Hacker newsin kirjoittaja määritteli hänet "ammattiuhriksi": "She has a "liberated" résumé, and looking at that, I'd say it is fair to characterize her as a professional victim".  Veikkaanpa, että matikan laitoksen varsinaiset alan asiantuntijat eivät ole kovin ylpeitä tästä laitoksensa tarjonnasta, mutta ehkäpä yliopistolla on jokin kaiken kattava woke-projekti, johon jokasien laitoksen on pakko osallistua.   Mitäs veikkaatte:  mikä suomalainen matematiikan laitos aloittaa ensimmäisenö woke-matematiikan opetuksen? Åbo Akademi?

Tiedoksi: Peter Boghossian on noteerannut kurssin tweetillä, muttei ole sitä vielä itse kommentoinut.  Seuraajat kylläkin.
https://twitter.com/peterboghossian/status/1455312927125245955

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 05.11.2021, 22:57:02
Voihan V, Critical Social Justice on absuria paskaa ja WOKE samaa.
Eikö mikään enää ole turvassa tältä paskamyrskyltä.
Aikanani  matematiikan approssani ei olllut mielestäni mitään turhaa.
Tämä meno on kohti eurokommunismia, mutta minkäs teet.
Pakko sanoa, että ainoa toivo saada Suomi jaloilleen on PS.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 06.11.2021, 08:58:00
Tässä linkki oppaaseen, jossa kerrotaan amerikkalaisille yläasteen opettajille, miten opettaa matematiikkaa tasa-arvoisesti

https://equitablemath.org/

QuoteA Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction is an integrated approach to mathematics that centers Black, Latinx, and Multilingual students in grades 6-8, addresses barriers to math equity, and aligns instruction to grade-level priority standards. The Pathway offers guidance and resources for educators to use now as they plan their curriculum, while also offering opportunities for ongoing self-reflection as they seek to develop an anti-racist math practice. The toolkit "strides" serve as multiple on-ramps for educators as they navigate the individual and collective journey from equity to anti-racism.

Ihan mielenkiintoinen lähtösivu, jos haluaa tutustua woke-matikan lähetyssaarnaajien mielenmaisemaan (oikean ylälaidan linkit).
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 06.11.2021, 09:16:50
Quote from: Siili on 06.11.2021, 08:58:00
Tässä linkki oppaaseen, jossa kerrotaan amerikkalaisille yläasteen opettajille, miten opettaa matematiikkaa tasa-arvoisesti

https://equitablemath.org/

QuoteA Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction is an integrated approach to mathematics that centers Black, Latinx, and Multilingual students in grades 6-8, addresses barriers to math equity, and aligns instruction to grade-level priority standards. The Pathway offers guidance and resources for educators to use now as they plan their curriculum, while also offering opportunities for ongoing self-reflection as they seek to develop an anti-racist math practice. The toolkit "strides" serve as multiple on-ramps for educators as they navigate the individual and collective journey from equity to anti-racism.

Ihan mielenkiintoinen lähtösivu, jos haluaa tutustua woke-matikan lähetyssaarnaajien mielenmaisemaan (oikean ylälaidan linkit).


Oli kyllä aika tavaraa. "Syvällistä ymmärrystä ei tarvita" oliko se kohta 2?

Kuka haluaa nousta noilla teeseillä koulutettujen insinöörien suunnittelemaan lentokoneeseen?

Alkaa vaikuttamaan siltä, että tässä taustalla on oltava joku CCP:n tai Venäjän subversio USA:n ja lännen teknisen osaamisen / ylipäätään osaamisen romauttamiseksi?

Muuta järkeä tuossa ei ole. Ja pitää todeta, että olen koulutukseltani aineenopettaja.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 06.11.2021, 23:19:27
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Katson ja korotan...

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QuoteJust read this NYT piece on proposed California state education standards that demand that teachers change curriculums to bring racial identity politics into everyday math lessons. So I click the draft standards and the first section cited this CRT paper.

If you say anything about CRT, you get a gazillion scolds claiming there's no CRT in schools, nothing inspired by this ideology. When you take literally 2 minutes to look into recent curriculum changes you find it everywhere.

There are so many extreme voices in the CA curriculum. The standards cite Prof. D. B. Martin to claim a colorblind approach to math promotes inequality. If you look up Martin, he believes math education is a project of "violent white supremacy and racial capitalism."

Prof. Martin argues that math is so fundamentally violent and white supremacist that there should be a nationwide movement for Black students to "feel empowered to refuse oppressive conditions in their mathematics education" and engage in mass boycotts and walk-outs of math class

https://mobile.twitter.com/lhfang/status/1456775490212040710 (https://mobile.twitter.com/lhfang/status/1456775490212040710)

Sinänsä olen kyllä Martinin kanssa samaa mieltä ratkaisusta ongelmaan: Kaikkien wokstereiden pitäisi painua v...n kuuseen matikan tunneilta. Ja yleensäkin kaikkialta, missä on täysjärkisiä ihmisiä paikalla.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 07.11.2021, 07:56:06
Siis anteeksi nyt, mutta vaikka kuinka tavaan noita twiittejä ja artikkeleita, en kerta kaikkiaan käsitä millä tavalla matematiikka (ja varmaan myös fysiikka, kemia ja biologia) olisi rasistista. Voisiko joku vääntää sen rautalangasta?  ???

Vai... onko se rasistista siksi, koska sen ovat keksineet *gasp* valkoiset heteroseksuaaliset miehet (vaikka eivät edes ole, matematiikan perusteethan kirjattiin jo muinaisessa Egyptissä)? Vai siksi, koska opiskelijoista suurin osa on (ainakin tähän saakka ollut) valkoisia (mikä sekin on väärin, kaukoaasialaisia taitaa olla yhtä paljon ellei enemmänkin)? Vai siksi, ettei mustilla ole kompetenssia opiskella korkean tason matematiikkaa? (Viimeisimpään en usko, lähinnä lienee kyse rodullisesta kulttuurista, joka ei rohkaise pitkäjänteisyyteen ja asioiden syvälliseen tutkimiseen.)

Muoks: Nyt keksin. Matematiikka on tietysti rasistista siksi, koska se tukeutuu silkkaan raakaan faktaan, eikä ota huomioon rodullistettujen (tai kenenkään muunkaan) tunteita! Jos joku kysyy, miksi 1 + 3 = 4, niin se nyt vaan ON näin, vaikka kuinka pahalta tuntuisi; get over it. ;D
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: F1nka on 07.11.2021, 09:24:43
Matematiikassa täytyy olla piilotettua rasismia ja naisvihaa, sillä siitä ei löydy näkyvää rasismia tai naisvihaa.

Naisista matematiikassa: tapaus Emmy Noether. Toiset matemaatikot tukivat Noetherin työtä, vastustus tuli humanistiselta puolelta. Humanistinen puoli näyttää aina menevän ajan hengen mukaan, ei tulosten:
QuoteIn the spring of 1915, Noether was invited to return to the University of Göttingen by David Hilbert and Felix Klein. Their effort to recruit her, however, was blocked by the philologists and historians among the philosophical faculty: Women, they insisted, should not become privatdozenten. One faculty member protested: "What will our soldiers think when they return to the university and find that they are required to learn at the feet of a woman?"[23][24][25] Hilbert responded with indignation, stating, "I do not see that the sex of the candidate is an argument against her admission as privatdozent. After all, we are a university, not a bath house."[23][24][25]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmy_Noether (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmy_Noether)

POC-ihmiset matematiikassa: tapaus Srinivasa Ramanujan. Vaikka hänellä ei ollut liiemmin rahaa, hän siltikin nousi matematiikan suuriksi nimiksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 07.11.2021, 09:27:49
KOMMUNISMI on täällä ja nyt! Eikö ole ymmärretty, että tämä Karl Marxin työn jatkaja Max Hortheimer on länsimarxismin johtohenkilö ja guru. Pyöriköön montussaan.
Adolfin aikaan julkaisi teoriansa 1937, hullu professori, nazi, kommunisti vai molempia?
QuoteMax Horkheimer first defined critical theory (German: Kritische Theorie) in his 1937 essay "Traditional and Critical Theory", as a social theory oriented toward critiquing and changing society as a whole, in contrast to traditional theory oriented only toward understanding or explaining it.

QuoteCritical social theory constitutes an effort to rethink and reform Marxist social criticism; it characteristically rejects mainstream political and intellectual views, criticizes capitalism, promotes human liberation, and consequently attempts to expose domination and oppression in their many forms.

Olen kyllä käynyt käytännön filofian peruskurssin, seuraavaa juputusta ei jaksa. Jos joku sen lukisi ja avaisi, olisin kiitollinen.

https://books.google.fi/books?id=a7fJCEOhvIQC&pg=PA27&lpg=PA27&dq=critical+social+theory+suomessa&source=bl&ots=gYbWl_Zjxn&sig=ACfU3U2xgbkTWseJ4T38LK0Yl31rk5utfQ&hl=fi&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi6m-vx44X0AhXllIsKHSTRDC4Q6AF6BAgREAM#v=onepage&q=critical%20social%20theory%20suomessa&f=false

Googelista lainattu.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pergolaattori on 07.11.2021, 10:12:00

Quote from: Siili on 06.11.2021, 08:58:00
Tässä linkki oppaaseen, jossa kerrotaan amerikkalaisille yläasteen opettajille, miten opettaa matematiikkaa tasa-arvoisesti

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Opas vaikuttaa pinnallisesti skimmaillen apurahan toivossa trendikkäämmin teemoitetulta 'Miten matematiikka saadaan uppoamaan tähän nykyiseen oppilasmateriaaliin?' -oppaalta.

Perusajatuksena näyttää olevan lista 'valkoiselle ylivallalle ominaisista piirteistä' ja esimerkeistä miten ne ilmenevät opetuksessa. Joka kääntäen kertoo omaa tarinaansa oppaan laatineiden henkilöiden asenteista.

Veikkaan että jos opasta toteutetaan siltänään, oppilaat tekevät töitä edellytystensä mukaisesti eikä oppitunnilla puhuta roduista mitään, lopputulos on täsmälleen sama kuin aiemmin.

Aivan sama tilanne kuin eri ihmisryhmille yksilöllisesti laadituissa älykkyystesteissä jotka antavat varmasti haluttuja lopputuloksia kohdeyleisössä mutta 'ongelma' on se että ne perinteisissä testeissä menestyvät ovat kärjessä myös kulttuuri tms. -sensitiivisissä testeissä.

Edelleen kysymykseksi siis jää miten tavoitellun lopputuloksen edellyttämä tasapäistäminen saadaan aikaan.

Asia ratkeaa vaikuttamalla kulttuuriin joka arvojensa ja ideaaliensa kautta vaikuttaa parinmuodostukseen ja edelleen nostaa esiin sellaisia piirteitä joilla ko. kulttuurissa menestyy.


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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 07.11.2021, 11:28:43

Quote from: Siili on 06.11.2021, 08:58:00
Tässä linkki oppaaseen, jossa kerrotaan amerikkalaisille yläasteen opettajille, miten opettaa matematiikkaa tasa-arvoisesti
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En lähde perehtymään tuohon ansiokkaan kuuloiseen brosyyriin, mutta voisiko joku tiivistetysti kertoa miten opus selittää:

1) mitkä ovat ne mekanismit ja rakenteet matematiikan opetuksessa jotka sortavat valkoisia ja suosivat aasialaistaustaisia opiskelijoita? CRT:n pyhistä opinkappaleistahan tiedämme että epätasa-arvoiset oppimistulokset johtuvat yksinomaan sortaja-sorrettu rakenteista.

2) miten matematiikkaa voi opettaa rasismivapaasti niin että valkoisten amerikkalaisten oppimistulokset saavuttavat tasa-arvon aasialais-amerikkalaisten matematiikan osaamisen kanssa?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ludicrous on 07.11.2021, 11:45:13
Quote from: Larva on 07.11.2021, 07:56:06
Siis anteeksi nyt, mutta vaikka kuinka tavaan noita twiittejä ja artikkeleita, en kerta kaikkiaan käsitä millä tavalla matematiikka (ja varmaan myös fysiikka, kemia ja biologia) olisi rasistista. Voisiko joku vääntää sen rautalangasta?  ???

Woke on erittäin rasistinen maallinen uskonto, jonka seuraajat ovat katkeroituneita epäonnistujia. Esimerkiksi reilu vuosi sitten arvostetun Smithsonian museon sivuilta löytyi kaavio, mikä kaikki on leimallisesti valkoista kulttuuria ja siten tietenkin pitäisi hävittää. Joukossa oli muun muassa sellaisia arvoja kuin rationaalinen ajattelu, kova työskentely, aikataulujen noudattaminen ja kohteliaisuus. Woken mukaan näihin luonnostaan kykenee ainoastaan oikeat ihmiset eli valkoihoiset. Näiden lisäksi on olemassa ties mitä neekeriä, hiekkaneekeriä, vinosilmää ja vinkuintiaania, miltä kaikilta on aivan turha odottaa "valkoisiin" ihanteisiin ylettämistä. Naiskysymys tuntuu olevan vaikea wokeilussa, mutta viime aikoina valkoihoiset naiset tuntuvat useammin kuuluvan valkoihoiset-kategoriaan (lue: syylliset) kuin naiset-kategoriaan (lue: uhrit).

Matematiikka on tieteistä yksinkertaisin. Matematiikka perustuu aksioomiin, perusoletuksiin joidenka olemme sopineet pitävän ilmiselvästi paikkaansa, kuten vaikkapa 1+1=2. Matematiikan vaikeus tulee siinä, että riittävän pitkälle mentäessä näitä aksioomia on paljon muistettavaksi ja yritettäessä ratkoa reaalimaailman ongelmia, on monesti vaikea jäsentää ongelma niin, että se on ratkaistavissa näihin yksinkertaisiin sopimuksiin nojaten. Woken ongelma matematiikan kanssa tulee jo ihan perustasolla. Matematiikka perustuu sopimuksiin. Ainoastaan ihmiset (=valkoihoiset) ovat kykeneviä noudattamaan sopimuksia. Saman odottaminen woke-uskonnon kategorisoimilta ali-ihmisiltä on woke-käsityksen mukaan rasismia. Lisäksi toisin kuin luonnontieteissä, matematiikassa voit olla absoluuttisen oikeassa tai väärässä. Tämä on erittäin ongelmallista uskonnolle, joka tukeutuu vahvasti subjektiiviseen totuuteen (nk. my truth). Siksi on tärkeää, ettei 2+2 ole aina välttämättä 4, vaan joskus se voi olla myös 5 tai vaikkapa kirahvi.

Fysiikka, kemia ja biologia ovatkin jo puolestaan oikeasti vaikeita, siitä johtuen woken mukaan muiden kuin valkoihoisten saavuttamattomissa ja täten ehdottomasti rasistisia.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 07.11.2021, 12:20:40
Quote from: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 07.11.2021, 11:28:43

Quote from: Siili on 06.11.2021, 08:58:00
Tässä linkki oppaaseen, jossa kerrotaan amerikkalaisille yläasteen opettajille, miten opettaa matematiikkaa tasa-arvoisesti
(...)

En lähde perehtymään tuohon ansiokkaan kuuloiseen brosyyriin, mutta voisiko joku tiivistetysti kertoa miten opus selittää:

1) mitkä ovat ne mekanismit ja rakenteet matematiikan opetuksessa jotka sortavat valkoisia ja suosivat aasialaistaustaisia opiskelijoita? CRT:n pyhistä opinkappaleistahan tiedämme että epätasa-arvoiset oppimistulokset johtuvat yksinomaan sortaja-sorrettu rakenteista.

2) miten matematiikkaa voi opettaa rasismivapaasti niin että valkoisten amerikkalaisten oppimistulokset saavuttavat tasa-arvon aasialais-amerikkalaisten matematiikan osaamisen kanssa?


Tuo pumaska(t) on niin absurdi, että luulisi koko jutun olevan parodiaa.

"Valkoinen ylivalta" on keskeinen teema rasistisessa matematiikassa. Ensin se määritellään eri sanoin kuten täydellisyys (siihen pyrkiminen), individualismi, objektivisuus, "kirjoitetun sanan palvominen" jne. Eli nämä ovat rasistisia ominaisuuksia, jotka väitetysti löytyvät valkoisilla.

Pumaska sisältää erinäisiä kursseja, joissa opetellaan mm. miten matematiikassa ei pidä pyrkiä oikeaan vastaukseen vaan painottaa "järkeilyä". Sanatehtävät tulisi korvaa opiskelijan omilla kokemuksilla ja oppiminen tulisi tapahtua ryhmässä ei yksilötasolla, tuloksia ei pitäisi esittää standardi formaatissa jne. jne. Erinäisiä teesejä on kymmeniä.

Nyt kun luin tämän sotkun niin vaikuttaa siltä, että tätä rasistista matikkaa ei edes ole kovin helppo määritellä. Teoria on täynnä sanasalaattia ja kaikki vaikuttaa pakotetulta yritykseltä keksiä ongelma, jota ei ole olemassa ja leipoa se tieteelliseltä kuulostavaan pakettiin. Ratkaisuehdotukset matikan rasismiin ovat myös kovin epämääräisiä eikä niitä edes konkreettisesti esitetä vaan jätetään opettajan itse keksittäväksi.

Esimerkiksi oikeista tuloksista sanotaan:

QuoteUpholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as well as fear of open con-flict. Some math problems may have more than one right answer and some may not have a solution at all, depend-ing on the content and the context. And when the focus is only on getting the right answer, the complexity of the mathematical concepts and reasoning may be underdeveloped, missing opportunities for deep learning.

Eli se tosiasia, että jotkut matikkatehtävät saattavat olla ilman eksaktia vastausta tarkoittaa, että ei pitäisi pyrkimään laskemaan oikeaa vastausta lainkaan. Tämä on klassista derridalaista dekonstruktionismiä, jossa vedetään pitkälle meneviä yleistäviä johtopäätöksiä poikkeustapauksista.

Ainakin peruskoulumatikka on kuitenkin käytännössä aina eksaktia laskemista eikä abstrakteja konsepteja, vailla tarkkaa vastausta. Rasistisen matikan teoria vetoaa siis korkeampaan abstraktimpaan matikkaan perustellakseen, että peruskouluissa ei pitäisi oppia laskemaan oikein.

Ratkaisuja tähän rasistiseen ongelmaan ovat mm.:

QuoteCome up with at least two answers that might solve this problem.

QuoteDeconstructed Multiple Choice - given a set of multiple choice answers, students discuss why these answers may have been included (can also be used to highlight common mistakes).

QuoteStudy the purpose of math education, and re-envision it. Schooling as we know it began during the industrial revolution, when precision and accuracy were highly valued. What are the myriad ways we can conceptualize mathematics in today's world and beyond?


Laskutehtävien tuloksista, joita siis ei pitäisi esittää "standardoidusti" sanotaan:

QuoteMath teachers ask students to show work so that teachers know what students are thinking, but that can center the teacher's need to understand rather than student learning. Teachers should seek to understand individual student perspectives and focus on students showing their work in ways that help students learn how to process information.

Matemaattisen tehtävän tulokset (laskelman) voisi siis esittää muilla tavoin kun kirjoittamalla se matemaattisin termein.

Ratkaisuja tähän rasistiseen ongelmaan ovat:

QuoteAs a department, solve complex problems without writing and share with each other about that process.

QuoteShow your thinking with words, pictures, symbols.

QuoteHave students create TikTok videos, silent films, or cartoons about mathematical concepts or procedures.

QuotePractice with math colleagues how to answer mathematical problems without using words or numbers.


Rasistinen matikkan ratkaisut näyttäisi kauttaaltaan olevan leikkikoulutasolle siirtymistä. TikTok videoita, sannallisia vastauksia, leikkiryhmiä, mielipiteisiin perustuvia vastauksia ja kivat keskustelut opettajan kanssa on ilmeisesti se tie, joka visioidaan murtavan valkoisten rasismin ja nostavan neekerit menestyviksi arkkitehdeiksi, insinööreiksi ja kemisteiksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 07.11.2021, 12:25:01
Matematiikka yliopistoll ei ole helppoa, ainakaan laudaturtasollla. Ei ollut päaine, appro riitti. Työkaverini pääsi jostain karmeasti laudaturkurssin tentistä monen yrityksen jälkeen läpi. Kurssin kovuudesta kertoo legendaarinen tarina sitkeästä yrittäjästä. Mies  ilmestyi säännöllisesti tenttiin. Koetehtävät jaettiin. Tenttijät tutkivat tehtäviä aikansa, kunnes miehemme lasketui polvilleen ja alkoi rukoilla. Sen verran äänekkäästi, että vahtimestari poisti herran salista.
Juttu voi olla jopa tosi, kuka tuommpisen keksisi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 08.11.2021, 19:36:13
Mitä enemmän tätä woketusta ja muka kriittistä CSJ-tunkiota pöyhii, sitä pahemmaksi käy paskan käry. Pahempaa tai samaa lajia kommunisminn kanssa. Täytyy pureskella pienin annoksin ettei tukehdu ja ala pitkäsylki lentää.
Miten saisimme nämä kriittiset wokeltajat käymään tätä toista hulluutta i.e. muhamettilaisuutta höykyttämään oikein urakalla. Miten sitten sopivat kristilliset normit yhteen tämän hapatuksen kanssa. Valitetettavan hyvin, leipäpait ovat sairaita ekumaanikkoja.
Onko sitten ihme, että nuorisolla on lisääntyvässä määrin mielenteveysongelmia. Luottamus yhteiskuntaame on mennyt, kun joukkotiedotusvälineet ja some (sosialistinen media?) syytävät karkeaa ja läpinäkyvää propaganda, puolitotuuksia ja valheita.
Kiihkolijoiden kohteena on suomalainen kulttuuri ja sen piiriin lukeutuvat tavalliset kansalaiset. Mulkeroiden mukaan skurutsainen metsässä insestiä harjoittava kansa pelastuu mulattien tekemiisen avulla. 
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 08.11.2021, 23:27:24
Peter Boghossianin lyhyt osuva kuvaus wokeismista:

[tweet]1457613987151966209[/tweet]

QuoteWoke is a derangement syndrome that parasitizes the moral mind. Symptoms include: unfettered urges to destroy western civilization; perpetual offense; perceiving reality exclusively via oppression; viewing oneself as a victim; an inability to defend ideas.

https://twitter.com/peterboghossian/status/1457613987151966209 (https://twitter.com/peterboghossian/status/1457613987151966209)

Alla James Lindsayn kuvaus wokeismin ja CSJ:n yhteydestä:

QuoteIn brief, "woke" means having awakened to having a particular type of "critical consciousness," as these are understood within Critical Social Justice. To first approximation, being woke means viewing society through various critical lenses, as defined by various critical theories bent in service of an ideology most people currently call "Social Justice." That is, being woke means having taken on the worldview of Critical Social Justice, which sees the world only in terms of unjust power dynamics and the need to dismantle problematic systems. That is, it means having adopted Theory and the worldview it conceptualizes.

Under "wokeness," this awakened consciousness is set particularly with regard to issues of identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, and others. The terminology derives from the idea of having been awakened (or, "woke up") to an awareness of the allegedly systemic nature of racism, sexism, and other oppressive power dynamics and the true nature of privilege, domination, and marginalization in society and understanding the role in dominant discourses in producing and maintaining these structural forces. Furthermore, being woke carries the imperative to become a social activist with regard to these issues and problems, again, on the terms set by Critical Social Justice. This—especially for white people—is to include a lifelong commitment to an ongoing process of self-reflection, self-criticism, and (progressive) social activism in the name of Theory and Social Justice (see also, antiracism).

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-woke-wokeness/ (https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-woke-wokeness/)

Ja käytännön esimerkki:

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Ja vielä yksi twiitti käsitteisiin liittyen:

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 09.11.2021, 17:03:46
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 07.10.2021, 02:22:40
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 01.10.2021, 03:22:40
Eukko alkoi opiskelemaan uutta alaa ja siellä on queer-arkeologiaa, feminismi sitä ja tätä, ensimmäisenä opetettiin sukupuolia olevan lukuisia. Surullista nähdä omin silmin miten tämä syöpä on vallannut koko koululaitoksemme.
Nyt on tullut jo tehtäviksi kymmeniä sivuja kirjoitettavaa rasismista, kulttuurin omimisesta ym. hömpästä. Luentoja kuinka pahaa isänmaallisuus on ja kuinka pahoja "vahvat miehet" ovat. Suomalaisten vertausta fasistisiin natseihin koska venäläisiä kuoli vankileireillä.

Ei ihme kun noista laitoksista tulee ulos niin sekopäistä porukkaa. Jännityksellä odotan mitä seuraava viikko tuo tullessaan. :roll:
Hullummaksi vain menee nuo luennot, vasta pääaiheena oli demokratia, sisältö perustui Jean-Paul Sartren ajatuksiin ja lopulta luento kulminoitui ongelmalasisen kiihkofeministin kommunismin ihannointiin. Ovat ilmeisesti tiedostaneet kommunismin ikävän maineen kun sitä kutsuttiin jollain uudella hienolla termillä. Tuolla yliopistossa saa ilmeisesti käyttää vain marxilaisia lähteinä, muita kun ei ole vielä tullut vastaan. ;D
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Inca on 09.11.2021, 19:47:17
Quote from: Larva on 30.10.2021, 07:29:40
^ Williamsin twiitti tuo mieleeni, että on todella vaikeaa olla tyttö/nainen nykypäivänä. Narratiivi on, että jokainen on omanlainen ja että pitää olla rohkeasti oma itsensä, mutta kuitenkin, jos et mahdu siihen ahtaaseen pikku lokeroon, jossa lukee "OIKEANLAINEN tyttö", et ole tyttö lainkaan vaan "sukupuoleton" tai "poika tytön kehossa". OIKEANLAINEN tyttö on pinkkiä ja glitteriä, hymyä ja meikkiä, hihitystä ja kyyneleitä, avuttomuutta ja pehmeyttä. Urheilullinen, poikamainen, nörtti tai ihan vaan tavallinen ei ole mikään "oikea" tyttö. Tämä on ihan järkyttävän surullista ja väärin.

Vielä 90-luvulla oli ihan tavallista, että oli tyttömäisiä tyttöjä, urheilullisia tyttöjä, nörttityttöjä ja poikatyttöjä. Oli myös urheilullisia poikia, poikamaisia poikia ja tyttömäisiä poikia. Ihan normaaleja naisia ja miehiä heistä kasvoi, eikä kukaan tullut kertomaan heille, että he eivät itse asiassa olleet oikeita poikia tai oikeita tyttöjä ja että heidän pitäisi "korjata" sukupuolensa ollakseen onnellisia.

Miksi nyt, kun kaikille on annettu lupa olla rohkeasti omanlaisensa, normit ja raamit ovat vielä ahtaammat kuin 20 vuotta sitten?

Muoks. Meniköhän nyt vähän ohi aiheen  :-[
No jaa ei tuolloin mietitty kyllä mitään sukupuoli-identiteettejä yleensäkään. Tytöissä riitti että ne oli hyvännäköisiä ja melko moni olikin, ainakin verrattuna nykyisiin 80kg plus kaloriinoihin. Minä kun olin nuori tuolloin 15 vuotta sitten kovimmat kiinnostuksen aiheet oli yleensäkin 2-tahti vs nelari, Yamaha vai Honda, alumiini vai lasikuitu, silver vai buster, honda monkey vai Suzuki pv, civic type-r vai golf gti, ja erityisesti piikkikortti vai parempi mopolla ajokorttiin asti että saa säästöillä paremman auton.

Itsellä oli piikkikortti, ehdottomasti olen muovivenemiehiä ja Yamaha all the way. 2-tahti on ihan hyvä ja aluveneiden ykkönen on silver hawk tietenkin. Civic type-r on edelleen ihan kova kaara, naiset on pääsääntöisesti hyvännäköisiä jos ne ei ole tolkun läskejä ja tuollaista 90-lukua en tunnista sitten ollenkaan.

Kuten sanottu eipä mitään kovin wokea ollut eikä mietitty mitään sukupuoli-identiteettejä, enemmän puheenaiheena oli veneet ja kalahommat, moottoripyörät ja autot.
No niin ne on vieläkin

E. Yliopistossa laskettiin kalkyyleitä, vyörytettiin kustannuksia, opiskeltiin ifrs tilinpäätösnormeja, ryypättiin vapaa-aikana ja kahvilla puhuttiin jääkiekosta ja autoista.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 10.11.2021, 23:14:48
Hieman leikattuna:

Quote from: Ludicrous on 07.11.2021, 11:45:13
Matematiikka on tieteistä yksinkertaisin. Matematiikka perustuu aksioomiin, perusoletuksiin joidenka olemme sopineet pitävän ilmiselvästi paikkaansa, kuten vaikkapa 1+1=2. Matematiikan vaikeus tulee siinä, että riittävän pitkälle mentäessä näitä aksioomia on paljon muistettavaksi ja yritettäessä ratkoa reaalimaailman ongelmia, on monesti vaikea jäsentää ongelma niin, että se on ratkaistavissa näihin yksinkertaisiin sopimuksiin nojaten. Woken ongelma matematiikan kanssa tulee jo ihan perustasolla. Matematiikka perustuu sopimuksiin.

Matematiikka ei perustu sopimuksiin tai aksioomiin, että 1+1=2. Taustalla on paljon fundamentaalisempia konstruktioita, jotka lähtevät joukko-opista (siis matemaattinen versio siitä, mitä joskus 70-80 luvun taitteessa yritettiin opettaa ekaluokkalaisille).
Koko matematiikka perustuu käsitteelle että voi olla joko tyhjä joukko tai ei-tyhjä joukko. Siitä päästään lopulta todistamaan aukottomasti että 1+1 on todellakin 2.





Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 10.11.2021, 23:28:42
Quote from: Inca on 09.11.2021, 19:47:17
No jaa ei tuolloin mietitty kyllä mitään sukupuoli-identiteettejä yleensäkään. Tytöissä riitti että ne oli hyvännäköisiä ja melko moni olikin, ainakin verrattuna nykyisiin 80kg plus kaloriinoihin. Minä kun olin nuori tuolloin 15 vuotta sitten kovimmat kiinnostuksen aiheet oli yleensäkin 2-tahti vs nelari, Yamaha vai Honda, alumiini vai lasikuitu, silver vai buster, honda monkey vai Suzuki pv, civic type-r vai golf gti, ja erityisesti piikkikortti vai parempi mopolla ajokorttiin asti että saa säästöillä paremman auton.

Itse kun varttui maalla Hämeessä, niin 30v sitten ei ollut yläasteella eikä lukiossa mitään homppelijuttuja ollenkaan, eikä semmoisista puhuttu edes terveysopin tunnilla. En osaa sanoa oliko siellä sitten oikeasti jotain poikkeavia, mutta paha haukkumasana oli homo silloin. Tokkopa kukaan olisi uskaltanut tulla kaapista jos semmoinen oli.

Sinällään samat jutut Fefe vs Lambo, Apple vs Microsoft jne jatkuu yhä tänäänkin, ilman mitään viherhäpeää. Se on kyllä hämmentävää kun juttelin korkeakoulun junnujen kanssa, niin sanoivat että opiskelijoilla ei ole kuulemma autoja. Silloin kun itse olin aktiivinen opiskelija niin joka kone- ja raksateekkarilla oli auto. Olivat rakentaneet jopa asuintaloja vanhan parkkipaikan päälle.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.11.2021, 01:10:55
Darren J. Beattie vähän irrottelee... Yhteys CSJ:in / wokeismiin ei ehkä ole täysin selvä, mutta jos lukee tuon läpi, niin kyllä se sieltä ilmenee.

https://www.revolver.news/2021/11/havana-syndrome-mass-psychosis-america/ (https://www.revolver.news/2021/11/havana-syndrome-mass-psychosis-america/)

QuoteHow Psychosomatic "Havana Syndrome" Backfired on The CIA and Destroyed Their Last Shred of Global Credibility

(...)

In the bad old days, diseases were strictly defined by their causes or by their symptoms. Viruses, cancers, bacterial diseases, arthritis, gout, osteoporosis, and the like.

Thank God we are past of all of that reactionary nonsense. It's 2021, and we are now enlightened and civilized enough to recognize the devastating illness of "Havana Syndrome" — a modern and progressive new medical condition for the Trump era, the Russiagate era, and the identity politics era.

Havana Syndrome has no cause, and its list of symptoms is impossibly long: Fatigue, vertigo, migraines, dizziness, memory loss, ear pain, tinnitus, visual impairment, "brain fog," anxiety, and so on. Some people experience only brief symptoms, while others have reported debilitating, life-altering disability.

In other words, Havana Syndrome is whatever people want to believe it is. Its symptoms overlap with those of sleep deprivation, stroke, chronic anxiety, aging, drunkenness, and literally just getting older.

Since it has no definitive symptoms and no known cause, what actually sets Havana Syndrome apart is who it afflicts: America's elite class of globetrotting diplomats and intelligence agents.

From the AP:

    The blaring, grinding noise jolted the American diplomat from his bed in a Havana hotel. He moved just a few feet, and there was silence. He climbed back into bed. Inexplicably, the agonizing sound hit him again. It was as if he'd walked through some invisible wall cutting straight through his room.

    Soon came the hearing loss, and the speech problems, symptoms both similar and altogether different from others among at least 21 US victims in an astonishing international mystery still unfolding in Cuba. The top US diplomat has called them "health attacks".

    ...

    "None of this has a reasonable explanation," said Fulton Armstrong, a former CIA official who served in Havana long before America re-opened an embassy there. "It's just mystery after mystery after mystery."

The government informed the public of the horror of Havana syndrome August 2017. Not even two months later, the "mystery after mystery after mystery" was solved, when Cuba's government helpfully pointed out a part of native wildlife America's cloistered cosmopolitan elite diplomats were apparently unfamiliar with: crickets.

(...)

The US sent its own State Department investigators to find the real cause. And lo and behold, a full year later, they delivered a memo that has since been declassified.

Here's an excerpt:

(...)

    We believe the recorded sounds are mechanical or biological in origin, rather than electronic. The most likely source is the Indies short-tailed cricket, Anurogryllis celerinictus. The call of this animal matches, in nuanced detail, the spectral properties of the recordings from Cuba once room echoes are taken into account.


Well then...

Despite the finding, Havana Syndrome complaints from our poor, beleaguered elites kept coming. Two weeks ago, NBC gave a sympathetic profile to Kate Husband, a Cuba diplomat who claimed that the cricket sound beam aged her brain by 20 years, and Tina Onufer, a diplomat who described being "struck with something" and then having four years of "excruciating headaches."

As it turns out, the devastating case of nefarious weaponized cricket spies wasn't just confined to Cuba. More diplomats and spies started to fall ill around the world. And after initially suspecting the Cubans, the American intelligence establishment zeroed in on Russia as the prime suspect. Why? Because they're evil, obviously.

One of the public faces of the the dreaded Havana Syndrome is Marc Polymeropoulos, a retired CIA official turned relentless anti-Russia agitator who won't shut up about the time he woke up in his Moscow hotel and threw up.

From GQ:


    Marc Polymeropoulos awoke with a start. The feeling of nausea was overwhelming. Food poisoning, he thought, and decided to head for the bathroom. But when he tried to get out of bed, he fell over. He tried to stand up and fell again. It was the early morning hours of December 5, 2017, and his Moscow hotel room was spinning around him. His ears were ringing. He felt, he recalled, "like I was going to both throw up and pass out at the same time."

(...)

To wit: a major CIA figure was regularly hitting Moscow dive bars, and shortly after developed hangover-like symptoms.

(...)

That's the saga of Havana Syndrome in a nutshell. For nearly five years, the "disease" of Havana Syndrome has been sweeping like a plague through America's diplomatic and intelligence corps. And for just as long, it's been obvious what the truth of the syndrome is: A psychosomatic affliction, the product of active imaginations, paranoia, social contagion, and the decaying quality of America's elite caste.

By now, Havana Syndrome should have withered away. Instead, it's become more important than ever.

Havana Syndrome is now being utilized to remake US foreign policy in a frenzy of anti-Russia hysteria. (...)

What's really going on here? For that, it's worth revisiting a little-known incident from the upstate New York town of Le Roy, birthplace of Jell-O. In August 2011, more than a dozen students at Le Roy Junior-Senior high school came down with a baffling tic disorder. They stuttered, compulsively hummed, and even hit themselves uncontrollably until they suffered injuries. Almost all the victims were teen girls, though one boy and a middle-aged woman were also afflicted.

(...)

But finally, a neurologist cracked the case. From Reuters:

    Doctors determined the attention from social media and mainstream media aggravated the problem, and discouraged patients from participating in either. The result, doctors say, is that most of the patients shed the Tourette-like symptoms and returned to a "normal life" in time for high school graduation on Sunday.

    ...

    "We noticed that the kids who were not in the media were getting better; the kids who were in the media were still very symptomatic," [Dr. Laszlo] Mechtler said.


    "One thing we've learned is how social media and mainstream media can worsen the symptoms," he said. "The mass hysteria was really fueled by the national media, social media – all this promoted the worsening of symptoms by putting these people at the national forefront."

The story in Le Roy ended happily, with the patients recovering save for one who actually did turn out to have Tourette syndrome (and likely inspired the tics in others).

But now, imagine if there was no heroic neurologist telling everyone to let the story die. Imagine instead that the press and the government endlessly hyped up this mysterious tic disorder and heaped attention on the sufferers. If that had happened, no doubt students across upstate New York would still be coming down with the disease. And that is what seems to be happening with Havana syndrome in the CIA and State Department: The more hype this "disease" receives, the more "cases" conveniently develop.

(...)

A weapon capable of invisibly inflicting the symptoms of Havana Syndrome is not known to exist, and may even be physically impossible to create. But despite that, "experts" in the NatSec establishment have obsessively fixated on the idea of some kind of "directed energy weapon." Because the theory is premised on the existence of an unknown super-advanced weapon, it has become impossible to disprove; how could one prove that a foreign country does not have secret technology?

(...)

So, in short, there are two major possibilities. Either:

    One of America's enemies possesses omnipresent, ultra-high-tech secret microwave weapons that produce wildly different symptoms in their victims, and is gleefully using them around the world for no discernible purpose in an attack tantamount to an extreme escalation in hostilities, which could possibly culminate in great power war, or even a nuclear exchange.

OR

    A bunch of women and effeminate "men" got nervous after some diplomats got sick and are now having a collective global panic attack.

For four increasingly stupid years, Havana Syndrome has hung around, drawing more attention, more investigations, more articles, and more hysteria. Cases popped up in Austria, Germany, Vietnam, Serbia, and Taiwan. (...)

More gems pile up throughout. Ioffe notes that Vladimir Putin "has the motive" to launch dangerous attacks on US diplomats. That motive: "poking the country in the eye is a worthy end in and of itself." In other words, Putin is just so evil he attacks diplomats for no reason, even when there's no other upside and it puts his country at risk of retaliation.

(...)

Polymeropoulos is clearly a man with a need to see himself as the protagonist of a Tom Clancy thriller, and sure enough, life events have bent accordingly.

And, of course, no one should be surprised that Polymeropoulos is a maximally paranoid Russia hoaxer. In October 2020, he claims he "basically wrote" the letter signed by former intelligence officials making the ludicrous claim that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation. And since his retirement, he has been a go-to source for news outlets that want a "former CIA official" to provide the most demented possible quote.

(...)

CNN:

    "We are acting like a banana republic, with various cabinet officials so beholden to a dictator, they violate all norms and rules simply to curry favor," said Marc Polymeropoulos, a former CIA officer who oversaw operations in Europe and Russia before retiring last summer.

(...)

LA Times:

    It doesn't matter if Russia is piggybacking off Trump's rhetoric, or if Trump is harnessing messaging that originates in Moscow, argued Marc Polymeropoulos, who retired from the CIA last year after overseeing clandestine operations in Europe and Russia.

    The president is "a witting collaborator in a Russian disinformation campaign," he said.

(...)

To recap: the loudest and most aggressive proponent of Havana Syndrome is also a militant Trump hater, Russia paranoiac, and Biden campaign shill, who thinks he was hit by an invisible laser beam because he had hangover-like symptoms after visiting a bunch of Moscow dive bars.

This would be bad enough if Polymeropoulos were just angrily agitating for people to take his attention-whoring seriously and give him money (Congress and President Biden acquiesced three weeks ago). But naturally, "grizzled" Marc Polymeropoulos, survivor of countless undocumented assassination plots, is also demanding that America escalate tensions with Russia over his hangover symptoms.

"I think it's now time that Congress and the administration together begin discussing and formulating possible policy responses, in what was an act of war, in preparation for a future attribution call by the national security establishment," Polymeropoulos told Politico.

Incredibly, the Republican Party is indulging this buffoon.

(...)

And every day this crisis continues is a sign of just how psychologically sick the American world order has become. As the Globalist American Empire has become more untethered from competence, it has also become more untethered from reality itself, and more vulnerable to propaganda as a result. This propaganda need not come from a foreign power, either. In essence, the CIA and State Department have been paralyzed by their own anti-Russia propaganda dating back to the 2016 election.

What started as hysterical allegations that Donald Trump was a Russian agent mutated into hysterical claims that Russia was attacking American diplomats.

Other examples of the American left getting "high on its own supply" are everywhere.

Arguably, the entire "woke" panic of the past decade is an example, where partisan claims of Republican "racism" and "sexism" eventually transformed into an all-consuming paranoia about systemic racism and sexism lurking everywhere in American life.

Similarly, for more than half a decade, the press and other ideological actors have been promoting the belief that children can be born in the "wrong" body, and that if they are depressed about puberty or some other facet of growing up, it could be proof they are "transgender." And naturally, beneath this media frenzy, transgenderism has exploded. Fifteen years ago, fewer than one in ten thousand children were allegedly transgender, and the vast majority of those claiming transgenderism boys. Today, one in fifty US high schoolers identify as some sort of trans, and the vast majority are girls.

It isn't biology that changed, and it isn't that people are now comfortable "coming out of the closet." Young people have been memed into becoming trans. And if people can be memed into mutilating their genitals, then they can absolutely be memed into thinking their headaches and anxiety are a product of Russian attacks.

In short, US diplomats think they are being shot with invisible laser beams for the same reason tens of thousands of American girls suddenly believe they are men.

Just another day in the Globalist American Empire.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 13.11.2021, 03:13:04
Woksterit = ihmissaasta

Quote from: zupi on 20.07.2021, 00:11:51
Quotei don't believe in gender identities. i don't believe it's kind to tell people they can change sex or tip toe around reality because they might get upset. i don't identify as a woman and i don't identify as a detransitioner; i just am those things. i am way past done pandering.
    — helena (@lacroicsz) July 19, 2021

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Quotethe pedos have been behind gender this whole time. gender ideology is a trojan horse for the breaking down of boundaries, instincts, categories, and awareness that protect against predation. now that the logic has been mainstreamed they're using it to normalize pedophilia openly

once you get well enough acquainted with the gender issue you see how integral pure predation is to everything they do, and how much predation on children specifically is a focus of the movement. it's a rainbow painted wooden unicorn and it's filled with pedophiles.

https://twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1459255933859778561 (https://twitter.com/lacroicsz/status/1459255933859778561)

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QuoteInteresting that the woke want to safeguard anyone except children.

Infantilise & coddle adults, don't burden them with responsibility or reality.

But treat children- the most vulnerable group- as if they have adult faculties.

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla/status/1459319033187213322 (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla/status/1459319033187213322)

Edit. Netflix, tuo hyvien ihmisten puolustaja... Kuka sitä nyt haluaisi pedofilian tuomita, kun lapsi ja aikuinen voivat oikeasti rakastaa toisiaan...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 15.11.2021, 01:41:57
John on äijä...

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Quote– Pahoitteluni kaikille niille, jotka olisivat halunneet keskustella kanssani Cambridgen yliopistolla, mutta ehkäpä löytyy vielä paikka, jota eivät woke-säännöt hallitse, Cleese jatkoi myöhemmin.

Quote82-vuotias John Cleese on ollut törmäyskursilla wokeismin kanssa jo pitkään, ja hän on ilmaissut mielipiteitään aatesuunnasta tiuhaan tahtiin ironiaa tihkuvalla, suositulla Twitter-tilillään, jolla on yli 5,6 miljoonaa seuraajaa.

QuoteHänen mukaansa wokeismin vastakohtana voisi esimerkiksi pitää stoalaista filosofiaa, jossa halutaan saavuttaa mielenrauha ja jossa pyritään hillitsemään tunteita. Cleese toteaa myös, että vaikka esimerkiksi Monty Python on loukannut viimeisten 50 vuoden aikana lukuisia ihmisiä, tästä ei ole koitunut kenellekään sen suurempaa harmia.

Haluaisin pyytää anteeksi kaikilta wokeismin kannattajilta, jotka ovat kärsineet hermoromahduksista sitten edellisen makroaggression, Cleese tviittaa.

Quote– Tämä on täysin naurettavaa. Miten ihmeessä fiksut yliopisto-opiskelijat eivät tunnista satiiria, kun sitä käytetään fasismin tuomitsemiseen? Eikö enää osata tehdä eroa murhanhimoisen diktaattorin ja arvostetun akateemikon välillä? Johan Bergström-Allen kirjoittaa.

– Cambridgen ja Oxfordin yliopistoissa poliittinen korrektius on mennyt aivan liian pitkälle, Anthony Deaves kuittaa.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12187659 (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12187659)

YLE sitten tyrkkäsi tällaisen. Mutta eipä hätää, seuraavat pari sataa woke-sekopäisyyttä ihannoivaa juttua varmasti häivyttää tällaisen kerettiläisyyden pois ihmisten mielistä.

OT:nä:

Biggus Dickus - Monty Python's Life of Brian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrcbCW4y9Dw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrcbCW4y9Dw)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 15.11.2021, 02:25:58
CSJ ja woke ovat uskonnollista hevonpaskaa. Se uppoaa hyvin ihmisiin, koska nämä ovat uskomattoman typeriä ja täysin kyvyttömiä argumentointiin juuri missään asiassa. Yhteiskuntamme sosiaalinen koheesio eli vakaus on ollut maailman huippua Tansakan ja Norjan kanssa. Sijoituksemme jo putosi.
Suomalainen yhteiskunta ei voi hyvin. Pahoinvoinnista voimme kiittää sosiaalidemokraatteja, vihreitä, kepuleita ja muita sabotöörejä. Maailmanparantajilla on tapana paskoa omaan pesäänsä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 16.11.2021, 13:41:23
Quote from: zupi on 13.11.2021, 03:13:04
Quotethe pedos have been behind gender this whole time. gender ideology is a trojan horse for the breaking down of boundaries, instincts, categories, and awareness that protect against predation. now that the logic has been mainstreamed they're using it to normalize pedophilia openly

once you get well enough acquainted with the gender issue you see how integral pure predation is to everything they do, and how much predation on children specifically is a focus of the movement. it's a rainbow painted wooden unicorn and it's filled with pedophiles.

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Laitetaan tämäkin:

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Edit. Toisesta Lindsayn linkkaamasta "tutkimuksesta":

QuoteIt is not enough to suggest that we could or should make innocence more inclusive, to insist that all children be afforded the privilege of innocence, because such an approach ignores what is problematic about the very framework of innocence, which was built on inherently racist logic. When we simply expand the age-old refrain "let children be children" to "let all children be children," what we are actually saying is, "let all children be like White children" because the very notion that childhood is a separation from adulthood is premised on White supremacy. As Bernstein (2017) articulated in a recent opinion piece in The New York Times:

When we argue that black and brown children are as innocent as white children, and we must, we assume that childhood innocence is purely positive. But the idea of childhood innocence itself is not innocent: It's part of a 200-year-old history of white supremacy. (para. 30)

What we need is not a more inclusive concept of innocence, but rather a concept of childhood that is premised not on innocence, but justice. This requires that we not only become more attentive to the rights of children as human beings, but also that we encourage them to be more attentive to their rights and the rights of others. As Faulkner suggests, "Perhaps rather than 'letting children be children, we need to let them become adults, by encouraging their social growth and supporting them to participate in the concerns of everyday life" (p. 116).

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0907568218811484 (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0907568218811484)

Sillä lailla...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 19.11.2021, 01:11:02
Jos jossain vaiheessa tulee raja vastaan noiden sadististen woke-sontiaisten kanssa, niin se on tuo, kun he hyökkäävät lasten kimppuun / käyttävät törkeällä tavalla heitä hyväkseen. Mitä se raja nyt sitten tarkoittaakaan. Tosin, sitähän nuo ovat tehneet alusta lähtien, postmodernismin "keksijöiden" ollessa paatuneita pedofiileja.

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https://abigailshrier.substack.com/p/how-activist-teachers-recruit-kids (https://abigailshrier.substack.com/p/how-activist-teachers-recruit-kids)

QuoteHow Activist Teachers Recruit Kids

Leaked Documents and Audio from the California Teachers Association Conference Reveal Efforts to Subvert Parents on Gender Identity and Sexual Orientation

Incensed parents now make news almost daily, objecting to radical material taught in their children's public schools. But little insight has been provided into the mindset and tactics of activist teachers themselves. That may now be changing, thanks to leaked audio from a meeting of California's largest teacher's union.

Last month, the California Teachers Association (CTA) held a conference advising teachers on best practices for subverting parents, conservative communities and school principals on issues of gender identity and sexual orientation. Speakers went so far as to tout their surveillance of students' Google searches, internet activity, and hallway conversations in order to target sixth graders for personal invitations to LGBTQ clubs, while actively concealing these clubs' membership rolls from participants' parents.

Documents and audio files recently sent to me, and authenticated by three conference participants, permitted a rare insight into the CTA's sold-out event in Palm Springs, held from October 29-31, 2021. (...)

But what makes for a successful LGBTQ middle school club? What to do about meddlesome parents who don't want their middle schoolers participating in such a club? What if parents ask a club leader—point blank—if their child is a member?

"Because we are not official—we have no club rosters, we keep no records," Buena Vista Middle School teacher and LGBTQ-club leader, Lori Caldeira, states on an audio clip sent to me by a conference attendee. "In fact, sometimes we don't really want to keep records because if parents get upset that their kids are coming? We're like, 'Yeah, I don't know. Maybe they came?' You know, we would never want a kid to get in trouble for attending if their parents are upset."

The advice to those who run middle school LGBTQ clubs is: keep no records, so you can plead ignorance of the membership with the members' parents. In fact, middle school teacher Kelly Baraki can be heard in the same session describing having named her club "the Equity Club," and then, "You be You," rather than the more ubiquitous "GSA." 

Caldeira and Baraki – both middle school teachers – led a workshop titled: "How we run a 'GSA' in Conservative Communities." (...)

The teacher leaders of the LGBTQ club apparently faced a constant problem: How to keep the middle school kids coming back to their group?  "We have LGBTQ kids who come to us, and they come and spend a year with us and they get all the love and the affirmation that they need," Caldeira can be heard to say. "And we give them tools to be powerful and brave and bold" but then they "go hang with their friends at lunch. And they do their things. And we love them for that, but we miss them when they don't join us. So we saw our membership numbers start to decline."

"We totally stalked what they were doing on Google..."

Middle school kids, apparently, did not have endless interest in sitting around with their teachers during lunch discussing their sexual orientations and gender identities. "So we started to brainstorm at the end of the 2020 school year, what are we going to do? (...)

But if students aren't especially interested in attending an LGBTQ club, if the leaders have trouble maintaining membership, if parents oppose them and schools, as Caldeira complains, often fail to support them—why on earth are teachers pushing them? "For those of you that are running or are thinking of running your own GSA or GSA-type club, always remember that youth are the drivers of change," Caldeira offers. If you want to bring a new world into existence, it seems—a good place to start is with other people's kids.

(...)

There was parent backlash; Caldeira and Baraki learned from the experience: "Next year, we're going to do just a little mind-trick on our sixth graders. (...)

I have no reason to believe that these activist educators are part of the gay or transgender communities themselves. For decades, gay Americans lived under the shadow of a vicious calumny that—if granted full inclusion in society—they would 'recruit' children. This was, and remains, a lie—one that was used to justify bigotry, even violence. But taking advantage of Americans' current desire for LGBTQ inclusiveness, California's largest teachers' union seems, perversely, to have perceived the opportunity to coach teachers in student-recruiting tactics.

"What happens in this room, stays in this room."

Caldeira is an award-winning teacher and the leader of her school's Equity Club. She has shared her views publicly before. In a podcast interview on November 5, 2020, Caldeira said much the same: "And so our Equity Club, we have dealt with issues of race, we have dealt with issues of different religious belief systems. We deal a lot with sexual orientation and gender identity," she explains. "As middle schoolers, that's the age where they are asserting their identity and defining themselves as a separate entity from their parents. And so they are looking, I think, for some guidance on: Is this OK? Can I do this? What does this mean? And so we talk about that."

(...)

I reached out to Spreckels Union School District—at which both Caldeira and Baraki teach—for comment. Neither Superintendent Eric Tarallo nor Buena Vista Middle School Principal Katelyn Pagaran nor Baraki or Caldeira replied to my requests for comment.

Quote from: zupi on 28.09.2021, 01:04:52
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Children, and even more so teenagers, are now under the influence of a set of beliefs that lead to mental destabilization, a rupture with the family if it does not support the child, and with all those who refuse to share this point of view. This ideological grip generates an anti-social and accusatory rhetoric, a specific language, or even a newspeak imposed on everyone around them. The language of these young people is often scripted as if they had lost all critical thinking (which is a characteristic of this grip). 

We denounce this abduction of childhood. It is now urgent to inform the greatest number of citizens, of all professions, of all allegiances, of all ages, about what could be tomorrow one of the greatest health and ethical scandals that we could have watched happen without saying a word: the commodification (hyödyntäminen, kaupallistaminen) of children's bodies. Because by persuading these children that they have been "assigned" a sex at birth, and that they can freely change it, we make them lifelong patients: lifelong consumers of hormonal chemicals marketed by pharmaceutical companies, recurrent consumers of more and more surgeries in the pursuit of the chimerical dream of a fantasy body. (...)

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Confusion reigns, largely maintained for the purpose of manipulating people in the most profound way: their evolution, their temporality, their wanderings, and their doubts. (...)

No, in the name of the protection of children we definitely can no longer remain silent! We refuse that, under the guise of "human rights," one challenges our commonalities – the universalism of rights – which constitutes the foundation of humanity. 

Signatories

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Quote from: zupi on 04.08.2021, 00:26:43
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Quotesuch a manipulative cult. they tell you all of your problems are bc you're trans, guilt tripping, grooming and gaslighting you every step of the way, and then when the pain and regret and awareness that you were taken advantage of hits, they want u to feel guilty about that too

not even going to bother explaining why getting a "reconstruction" is not the same as never having your breasts removed by an industry vulture in the first place, they know it's not the same. i bet on some level they know it's flat out evil too. they just don't care

"get a reconstruction" "go to voice therapy" "being hairy doesn't make you any less of a woman"

thanks genius. problem solved. none of us have ever thought of these things before. (hymiö)

no amount of money spent on compensation will ever make up for having your body integrity taken away from you by medical industry vultures and groomers who targeted you when you were 13 and vulnerable.

human beings aren't mr potato heads who can just be operated on every other year to have different body parts taken off and put back on.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Histon on 21.11.2021, 08:38:58
Joku kehitysmaalainen ollut töllössä "superjärkyttynyt" kun Valtaoja käyttänyt "n-sanaa" (ilmeisesti neekeri).

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12195118

QuoteHyvä tapa edistää tasa-arvoa vai liiallista kyttäämistä? Kaksi eri laidan vaikuttajaa ajautui kiivaaseen väittelyyn keskustellessaan cancel-kulttuurista
Toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimi ja avaruustieteilijä Esko Valtaoja ajautuivat Marja Sannikan haastattelussa sanaharkkaan nykyaktivismista. [/b]

Molempien tavoite on edistää tasa-arvoa ja parempaa maailmaa, mutta yhteisiä keinoja siihen ei löytynyt.

Avaruustähtitieteen emeritusprofessori Esko Valtaoja ja toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimi etsivät keinoja taistella syrjintää vastaan Marja Sannikan haastattelussa. Kiivaassa keskustelussa Valtaoja oli sitä mieltä, että niin sanotussa cancel-kulttuurissa on toisinaan kyse liiallisesta kyttäämisestä, joka kääntyy itseään vastaan.

– Me olemme vaarassa luisua siihen, minkä muistan hyvin 1970-luvun taistolaisuudesta. Tärkeintä oli puhdasoppisuus eikä suinkaan se, että tehtäisiin oikeasti jotain.
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Ebrahimin mielestä usein on kyse siitä, että etuoikeutetut ihmiset tuntevat olonsa epämukavaksi, kun vääryyksistä puhutaan.

– Koen, että me teemme tällä hetkellä oikein. Meidän pitää olla herkillä ja meillä kaikilla pitää olla vähän epämukavaa, jotta me pääsemme oikeasti siihen tasa-arvoiseen maailmaan.
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Keskustelu sanojen ja tekojen merkityksestä syrjinnän vastaisessa taistelussa tulehdutti tilanteen täysin. Ebrahimi järkyttyi Esko Valtaojan käytettyä n-sanaa havainnollistaessaan esimerkkiään sanojen kontekstin merkityksestä.

– Tämä on ihan superjärkyttävää, että olen tällaisessa tilassa, missä valkoinen ihminen ruskean ihmisen vieressä kaksi kertaa käyttää n-sanaa ihan tahallaan.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kekkeruusi on 21.11.2021, 10:17:49
Tämä on ihan superjärkyttävää. Kansallinen hätätila on julistettava ja kriisiapua järkyttyneille pikaisesti!

Tosi tärkeä ihminen tämä Renaz.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 21.11.2021, 10:34:09
Quote from: Histon on 21.11.2021, 08:38:58
Ebrahimin mielestä usein on kyse siitä, että etuoikeutetut ihmiset tuntevat olonsa epämukavaksi, kun vääryyksistä puhutaan.

Ebrahimin olisi pitänyt etuoikeutettuna woke-oppien mukaan vaieta ja pyytää suomalaisilta anteeksi mm. sitä, että on Iranista, maasta, joka on hyötynyt suomalaisista luksusorjista. Onhan joidenkin asiantuntija-arvioiden mukaan Suomi kärsinyt jopa pahemmin orjien viennistä maasta kuin Afrikka, joten kyseessä ei ole mikään vähäpätöinen asia edes. Muistellaanpas hieman:

Suomen vaiettu historia: pikkupoikia ja -tyttöjä vietiin "luksusorjiksi"
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,93003.0.html
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 21.11.2021, 14:40:31
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– Tämä on ihan superjärkyttävää, että olen tällaisessa tilassa, missä valkoinen ihminen ruskean ihmisen vieressä kaksi kertaa käyttää n-sanaa ihan tahallaan.

;D ;D ;D Olen nauranut täällä hysteerisesti silmät kosteina tuota Ebrahimin lausetta... hattua täytyy nostaa miten tehokkaasti hän on onnistunut tiivistäämään woke-bingon keskeistä sanastoa. Jo se että iranilaisena eli ns. klassisena arjalaisena Ebrahim julistaa olevansa "ruskea ihminen" kumoaa harhakäsitteen "valkoisesta etuoikeudesta" tänä päivänä, ja alleviivaa kuinka "ruskea", "rodullistettu" ym vähemmistöasema on nykyajan vastine aristokratialle johon tiedostavat haluavat epätoivoisesti osoittaa kuuluvansa.

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Ebrahimin mielestä parempaa maailmaa edistääkseen jokaisen tulisi kuunnella muita ja olla sensitiivinen sekä tarkastella omia etuoikeuksiaan ja valtaansa kriittisesti.

Voi tätä ironiaa ja hassun sanaston riemuvoittoa  :roll:
Ilmeisesti "jokainen" ei kuitenkaan koske itsensä ruskeaksi identifioivaa Ebrahimia itseään, koska aikaisemmassa lauseessa hän superjärkyttyneenä kieltäytyi kuuntelemasta valkoisen setämies-Eskon kaksinkertaista n-sanaa. Ja edelleen, miten n-sana edes liittyy arjalaiseen Ebrahimiin... ehkä rotukin on sitten pelkkä valintakysymys kuten sukupuoli, joten Ebrahim on varmaan sitten trans-rotuinen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 21.11.2021, 15:11:04
Quote from: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 21.11.2021, 14:40:31
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– Tämä on ihan superjärkyttävää, että olen tällaisessa tilassa, missä valkoinen ihminen ruskean ihmisen vieressä kaksi kertaa käyttää n-sanaa ihan tahallaan.

;D ;D ;D Olen nauranut täällä hysteerisesti silmät kosteina tuota Ebrahimin lausetta... hattua täytyy nostaa miten tehokkaasti hän on onnistunut tiivistäämään woke-bingon keskeistä sanastoa. Jo se että iranilaisena eli ns. klassisena arjalaisena Ebrahim julistaa olevansa "ruskea ihminen" kumoaa harhakäsitteen "valkoisesta etuoikeudesta" tänä päivänä, ja alleviivaa kuinka "ruskea", "rodullistettu" ym vähemmistöasema on nykyajan vastine aristokratialle johon tiedostavat haluavat epätoivoisesti osoittaa kuuluvansa.
Veit jalat suustani. Katsoin haastattelun about tuohon asti, sitten ei enää pystynyt. En oikeasti tiennyt itkisinkö vai nauraisinko, päädyin jälkimmäiseen. Ebrahim onnistui näyttämään ihan lahkolaissaarnaajalta, joka silmät seisten latelee ulkomuistista saarnaa päädyttyään uskottomien seuraan. "Tässä huoneessa on paholainen... tunnen oloni turvattomaksi... te kaikki päädytte helvettiin! Katukaa, syntiset!"

Ja huomasitteko katsoa Eskon ilmettä tuon litanian aikana? Ihan priceless, ensin kohosi kulmat tyyliin "Onko tuo oikeasti vakavissaan?" ja sitten hän puri poskiaan ettei olisi purskahtanut nauruun ;D
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 21.11.2021, 15:46:53
Kriittinen kohta näkyy videolla.
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Eli Valtaoja yritti esimerkin avulla selittää teesiään, että pitäisi keskittyä ihmisten tarkoitusperiin ja oli ottanut esimerkiksi toisaalta (nimeltä mainitsematta jätetyn) kansanedustajan hyppivät neekeriukot ja toisaalta Peppi Pitkätossun neekerikuningas-isän, mutta erään ruskeaksi vahvasti identifioituneen toimittajan mielenterveys järkkyi tästä entistä enenmmän.

- mutta täytyy myöntää, että wokeismi tuli selvennettyä katsojille varsin tehokkaasti.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 21.11.2021, 16:33:55

Ylen ego-toimittelija, itserakas Marja Sannikka kertoo olevansa "valtavan pahoillaan" että hänen vieraansa "todella järkyttyi" kuullessaan n-sanan.

Valtavan, todella.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/27b0cfe1-6691-4b0c-91a2-6107b362571b

QuoteTähtitieteilijä Esko Valtaojan ja toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimin välinen keskustelu aiheutti kohua Ylen Marja Sannikka -keskusteluohjelmassa perjantaina. Valtaoja käytti rasistista n-sanaa kahdesti, minkä seurauksena Ebrahimi kertoi kokevansa olonsa turvattomaksi.
Sannikka on ottanut kantaa myös omaan passiivisuuteensa tilanteessa. Sannikka kuvailee olleensa Valtaojan sanoista ällistynyt, eikä juontaja olisi halunnut kuulla n-sanaa studiossa.

Yle on jälleen onnistunut tavoitteissaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 21.11.2021, 16:41:08
QuoteKolumni: Esko Valtaoja joutui pyörremyrskyyn – woke-kultti tunkeutui kerralla olohuoneisiin

Woke on vaarallinen ajatusten sairaus – sitä vastaan pitää taistella ja lujaa, kirjoittaa Iltalehden kolumnisti Sanna Ukkola.


Sekopäinen woke-kultti löi alastomassa karuudessaan kansakunnan olohuoneisiin perjantaina Marja Sannikan lähetyksessä, jossa keskustelu studiossa riistäytyi täysin käsistä.

Aktivisti ja Ylen toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimi menetti täysin malttinsa, kun tähtitieteilijä Esko Valtaoja käytti n-sanaa pari kertaa alleviivatakseen pointtinsa kontekstista, jossa sanaa käytetään.

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Woke-ideologia on uusvasemmistolainen suuntaus, johon liittyy aatteellisen puhdasoppisuuden vaatimus ja moraalinen puritanismi. Woke on äärimmäisen haitallinen vapausaatteelle, ja sen tärkeä opinkappale on intersektionaalisuus.

Intersektionaalisuus tai intersektionaalinen feminismi puolestaan perustuu marxilaiseen Standpoint-teoriaan, jonka mukaan sorretun luokan näkökulma on puolueettomampi ja todenmukaisempi kuin muiden.

Pidän näitä aatteita totalitaristisina ja äärimmäisen vaarallisina, kyseessä on käytännössä käänteinen rasismi.

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Oikeusministeriö on käyttänyt koulutusmateriaalissaan niin sanottua etuoikeuskehää, joka on intersektionaalisen feminismin piirissä merkittävä toimintaa ohjaava väline. Siinä ihmisten ominaisuuksia on jaettu eri sektoreille sen perusteella, kuinka lähellä valtaa ne ovat.

Suomen Kuvalehti julkaisi viime vuoden lopulla kammottavan jutun, jossa kuvattiin, mitä taidekouluissa tapahtuu ja kuinka opettajat yrittävät luovia opiskelijoiden traumojen ristitulessa.

SK:n jutussa kerrottiin, kuinka oppilaat toimittavat korkeakoulujen henkilökunnalle inklusiivisuusagendoja, vaativat sensitiivisyyskoulutusta ja liittolaiskoulutusta, vaativat ottamaan kursseja suunniteltaessa huomioon kolonialismin, sukupuolisensitiivisyyden ja turvallisen tilan sekä vaativat julkisia anteeksipyyntöjä.

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https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/fe4a5e8d-ebff-48c0-8c2f-1a5ff50003ca

Erinomainen kirjoitus taas Sanna Ukkolalta josta selviää kuinka pitkällä tämä syöpä jo on. Vahva lukusuositus.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 21.11.2021, 16:48:19
Olen sanonut aiemmin mutta sanon nytkin, että persujen pitäisi tavoitella opetusministerin salkkua. Ensinnäkin pakkoruotsin poisto, alkaen virkamiesten ruotsin taitovaatimuksen poistosta, alas aina peruskouluun asti. Toinen kärkihanke tulisi olla intersektionaalisen feminismin ja woken poisto yliopistoista, sekä suvakoinnin poisto kaikilta opetuksen tasoilta. Tarvitaan joku joka on halukas ja kykenevä toteuttaman tämän vaikka härkäpäisesti tahdon voimalla.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 21.11.2021, 16:53:33
Itselleni woke perseily saa aikaan sen, että menetän kunnioituksen siihen osallistuviin. Kun henkilö ei pysty järjelliseen argumentiontiin siinäkään asiassa, niin lienee niin että kaikki muukin ihmisen ajattelussa on samaa höttöä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 21.11.2021, 17:02:42
Itselleni on jäänyt epäselväksi se että millä perusteella Renaz Ebrahimin kaltaiset ihmiset väittävät edustavan vähemmistöä? Tämäkin yksilö edustaa kansakuntaa jonka pääluku on melkein 100 miljoonaa. Sitten hän tulee suomeen ja uhriutuu vähemmistönä. Vaikea ymmärrää tätä logiikkaa ja sanonkin kuin Valtaoja ohjelmassa, että "nyt minä en ymmärrä tästä yhtään mitään". 

Toinen tuon ihmisen kummallinen väite on se että hän olisi mustaihoinen mitä hän ei todellakaan ole. Media syö tämän ihmisen kädestä kyseenalaistamatta näitä väitteitä ollenkaan. 
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 21.11.2021, 17:07:02
Täytyy vielä lisätä, että Ebrahim oli ohjelmassa ainoa, joka kiinnitti huomiota ihmisten ihonväriin ja teki siitä ennakko-oletuksia. Toisin sanoen hän oli ohjelman ainoa rasisti, eikä edes tajunnut asiaa itse. ;D
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 21.11.2021, 17:16:04
Hauskinta tässä on se, että ne heittää Valtaojankin rasistien kasaan. Mitä enemmän tätä tapahtuu, sitä enemmän ihmiset näkee tuon sumuverhon läpi.

Aika fantsua, että he ihan itse ampuvat itseään polveen.

Älä keskeytä kun vihollisesi tekee virheitä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 21.11.2021, 17:22:19
Quote from: räsänen on 21.11.2021, 16:41:08
Erinomainen kirjoitus taas Sanna Ukkolalta josta selviää kuinka pitkällä tämä syöpä jo on. Vahva lukusuositus.

On hieno kirjoitus. Ukkolalla on näkemys ja kirjoitustaito hallussaan.

Kolumni sisältää loistavan määritelmän "vaarallinen ajatusten sairaus".

Todella vaarallinen sairaus.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 21.11.2021, 17:27:00
Woke-spiikkiä vaahtoavalle puritanistille ei tarvitse sanoa mitään muuta kuin "ensinnäkin puhu suomea äläkä uus-marksismia. Ja toiseksi, minulla ei ole mitään aikomusta osallistua vallankumoukseesi jolla yrität korvata Suomessa vallitsevan tasa-arvon rasistisella lokeroinnillasi."
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: justustr on 21.11.2021, 17:31:45
Valtaoja törmäsi täsmälleen samaan ongelmaan johon muuan Jussi Halla-aho on törmännyt lukemattomia kertoja. Paitsi, että tiedostavat ihmiset eivät kykene minkäänlaiseen rationaaliseen ajatteluun, niin he myös tappavat rasismi-kiljunnallaan kaiken järjellisen dialogin.

Valtaoja on vähintään puolitiedostava itsekin, joten tässä taisi tulla tähtitieteilijälle varsin terveellinen oppitunti missä woke-kultti nykyään menee. Ehkä Valtaoja nyt pysähtyy miettimään mitä tapahtuu jos woke ulottuu myös luonnontieteisiin tyyliin "intersektionaalinen matematiikka tai inklusiiviset yhtälöt". Perusteetonta pelotteluako? No ei ole: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirkkalan_moniste
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 21.11.2021, 17:39:19
Quote from: justustr on 21.11.2021, 17:31:45
Valtaoja törmäsi täsmälleen samaan ongelmaan johon muuan Jussi Halla-aho on törmännyt lukemattomia kertoj. Paitsi että tiedostavat ihmiset eivät kykene minkäänlaiseen rationaaliseen ajatteluun, niin he myös tappavat rasismi-kiljunnallaan kaiken järjellisen dialogin.
[...]

Ongelma tuossa on se että Yle ja käytännössä kaikki yksityiset mediat ja toimittajat lähtevät komppaamaan ja mielistelemään rasismi-kiljujia. Kun tätä tapahtuu jatkuvan johdonmukaisesti, eikä valtamediassa uskalleta käsitellä sitä yhtään päinvastaiselta kannalta, niin ihmiset (suurin osa) jotka pitävät rasismi-ulinaa järjettömänä, pysyvät kuitenkin hiljaa koska luulevat että joka puolella oleva propaganda on uponnut kaikkiin muihin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Huppupelikaani on 21.11.2021, 17:43:46
[tweet]1462436654589915145[/tweet]

Quote
20.11 Renaz loukkaantuu verisesti #sannikka'ssa N-sanoista.

21.9 Renaz bilettää Pasilan tornissa Ylen 95 -juhlalähetyksessä:

"Came from a bitch who nigga wanna fuck on me"
"Make a nigga act right"
"all you bitches fucked"
"If that nigga had a twin"
"Niggas out here playin'"
Quote
Kappale: Up
Artisti: Cardi B
Lyriikat: https://genius.com/Cardi-b-up-lyrics...

Kappale kohdasta 13:29 eteenpäin.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MatiasTurkkila/status/1462436654589915145

Tämä on tietysti ihan eri asia.

E: Twiittien fiksaus
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 21.11.2021, 17:45:33
Quote from: justustr on 21.11.2021, 17:31:45
Valtaoja törmäsi täsmälleen samaan ongelmaan johon muuan Jussi Halla-aho on törmännyt lukemattomia kertoja. Paitsi, että tiedostavat ihmiset eivät kykene minkäänlaiseen rationaaliseen ajatteluun, niin he myös tappavat rasismi-kiljunnallaan kaiken järjellisen dialogin.

Ajattelin ihan samaa kun katsoessani ohjelmaa. Minulle tuli myös mieleen Iiris Suomela jolla on samanlainen, äärimmäisen agressiivinen tapa esittää asioita. Hän latelee älyttömyyksiä liukuhihnalta niin että vasta-argumentoijalla on vaikeuksia saada mistään kiinni.

Ja näin taisi käydä nyt tosiaan Valtaojallekin, Renaz Ebrahimin älyttömyyksien ja fraasien vyöryttäminen sai Valtaojan selkeästi hämilleen ja hän ei oikein tiennyt että mihinkä noistä älyttömyyksistä pitäisi vastata.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: L. Brander on 21.11.2021, 17:50:58
Meno on absurdia!

Meillä laitetaan (yhtiön tasolla) poliittisesti ohjattuun, väkisin ihmisiltä ja yhteisöiltä otetulla rahalla rahoitettuun televisioon toimittaja, iranilainen ja "tähtitieteilijä," joka on yrittänyt profiloitua jonkinlaiseksi kansakunnan omaksitunnoksi. Sitten mainitaan sana neekeri, joka aiheuttaa pelon tunteen "ruskealle ihmiselle." Myös toimittaja kertoo olleensa niin järkyttynyt, että piti olla pitkään hiljaa.

Miksi tämä on joistain ihmisistä järkevää? Ihan oikeasti? Onko meillä vesijohtovedessä LSD tai piri kloorin sijaan?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: TapsaT on 21.11.2021, 17:54:06
Tämä vähemmistöjen tunne siitä että heitä syrjitään ja kohdellaan muutenkin huonosti, perustuu pääasiassa siihen, että he itse käyttäytyvät niin huonosti ja aggressiiivisesti muita kohtaan. Eli he tavallaan ovat itse luoneet tämän ongelman itselleen, olettamalla että vika on heidän mielestään aina lähtökohtaisesti muissa. Hankalista ihmisistähän ei yleisesti pidetä, riippumatta siitä kuuluuko hän vähemmistöihin vai ei.

Tähän loppuun sopii hyvin vanha suomalainen sananlasku: Niin metsä vastaa kuin sinne huudetaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 21.11.2021, 17:55:43
Quote from: Huppupelikaani on 21.11.2021, 17:43:46
[tweet]1462436654589915145[/tweet]

Quote
20.11 Renaz loukkaantuu verisesti #sannikka'ssa N-sanoista.

21.9 Renaz bilettää Pasilan tornissa Ylen 95 -juhlalähetyksessä:

"Came from a bitch who nigga wanna fuck on me"
"Make a nigga act right"
"all you bitches fucked"
"If that nigga had a twin"
"Niggas out here playin'"
Quote
Kappale: Up
Artisti: Cardi B
Lyriikat: https://genius.com/Cardi-b-up-lyrics...

Kappale kohdasta 13:29 eteenpäin.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MatiasTurkkila/status/1462436654589915145

Tämä on tietysti ihan eri asia.

E: Twiittien fiksaus

Siinä sitä loukkaantunut panee menemään oikein kunnolla. VOi jessus miten kaksinaamainen tyyppi. Tai tyhmä.

Veikkauksia siitä mikä media tarttuu tähän tuomittavaan neekeröintiin oikein kunnolla?

Ps. Suomen uutisia ei lasketa mukaan tähän veikkaukseen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 21.11.2021, 17:58:33
https://twitter.com/petruspennanen/status/1462403127353790472
[tweet]1462403127353790472[/tweet]
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"17.9.21 Renaz Ebrahim piti DJ-keikan Pasilan linkkitornista, jossa soitti 25 biisiä. Niissä esiintyi n-sana yhteensä 57 kertaa ja naista halventava h-sana 99 kertaa."

Näin hän todisti itse että Valtaoja on oikeassa: Sanojen loukkaavuus riippuu kontekstista.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 21.11.2021, 19:20:32
Ylen Sannikka ohjelman tuottaja kommentoi...iranilaisen toimittelijan (nyk. Suomalaisen) ja Esko Valtaojan käymää keskustelua,
https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008421030.html

QuoteOHJELMAN vastaava tuottaja Ville Kolari sanoo, että ohjelmassa tehtiin journalismia, joka kosketti todella arkaa aihetta.

– Aina silloin, kun ollaan arkojen aiheiden kanssa tekemisissä, keskustelu käy kuumana. Meidän tehtävämme on auttaa ihmisiä ymmärtämään argumentaatiota puolin ja toisin, ja silloin lähetykseen otetaan usein eri mieltä olevia ihmisiä, jotta argumentaation molemmat puolet aukenevat, Kolari sanoo.
Jonkinlaista rohkeutta viellä löytyi.

Quote– Tuntikausia pohdittiin sitä, että mitkä ovat journalistiset perusteet tämän ohjelman julkaisemiselle sellaisenaan – lyhentämättä tai editoimatta. Todettiin, että sille on hyvät journalistiset perusteet. Emme voi mennä sensuroimaan kenenkään haastateltavien sanoja, ne eivät ole Ylen sanoja, vaan ne ovat nimenomaan haastateltavien sanoja ja näkemyksiä. Jos olisimme lähteneet editoimaan tästä esimerkiksi yksittäisiä sanoja tai lauseita pois, niin journalistinen konteksti ei olisi auennut millään tavalla, eli siitä ei olisi tullut ymmärrettävää journalismia, ja se olisi tehnyt hallaa kaikille argumenteille, joita siinä esitettiin.

iltsikkalehdellä meni käpy selän alle...uutinen julkaistu klo 18.22, kommentointi lopetettu klo 18.39, oli kai liian hapokasta,suhteessa iranilaiseen woke-mimmiin?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: M.K on 21.11.2021, 19:48:52
Petruksen piti oikein tutkia linkkitornikonsertin biisit läpi, jotta voidaan todistaa meille kaikille, että riippuu kontekstista, mikä sanaa loukkaa ja mikä ei. Ai että sanon minä. No shit. Emme varmaan olisi muutoin asiaa älynneet saatikka oppineet.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suntio on 21.11.2021, 20:02:05
Talteen tuo, mitä Valtaoja kertoo tapahtuneen, kun kamerat sammuivat:

QuoteKeskustelu tv:ssä oli todella kiivas. Mitä tapahtui, kun kamerat menivät pois päältä?

– En halua eritellä, vaikka hän kuinka minun kimppuuni hyökkäsi siellä. Aika loukkaavasti, eikä ainoastaan minua, vaan isoa kansanosaa, muun muassa kaikkia Nenäpäivään osallistuneita kohtaan. En halua pahentaa enää tilannetta ja kertoa, mitä hän sen jälkeen teki. Voit kysyä sitä vaikka Marja Sannikalta.

Eli keskustelu jatkui vielä kameroiden ulkopuolella?

– Sanotaan, että hänen keskustelunsa jatkui.


Lisää: https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008420796.html (https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008420796.html)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 21.11.2021, 20:03:23
Pienenä trivian poikasena: Iranissa orjuudesta tuli laitota 64 vuotta myöhemmin kuin Alabamassa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 21.11.2021, 20:19:25
^^Laitonta ja "laitonta". Iranin yhteiskunta pohjautuu islamin lakiin, eikä orjuus ole sen perinteisen tulkinnan eli Iranissa shialaisen fiqhin mukaan kiellettyä eli laitonta. Länsimaalaisille tietysti pitää asia saada näyttämään, että orjuutta ei ole. Reaalitodellisuus on sitten toista, miltä ulkomaailmalle se näyttää. Hyvin on onnistuttu. Mutta islamoppineet ovatkin kaikki juristeja, joten he tietävät pelin säännöt, eli näyttöä esiin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 21.11.2021, 20:25:55
Quote from: Hohtava Mamma on 21.11.2021, 20:07:53
Eli neekeri saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi, mutta valkoinen ei saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi.

Iranin kurdi (ymmärtääkseni, ihmiseksi, jolleka "ruskeus" on niin tärkeätä, ainakaan kovin usein hän ei itse mainitse tarkkaa alkuperäänsä) ei ole neekeri/musta/"afroeurooppalainen". Vaikka maantieteellisesti lähempänä sijaitsevatkin, muutoin hänen loukkaantumisensa afrikkalaisten puolesta on sama kuin jos minä ottaisin henkilökohtaisesti nokkiini siitä, jos mielestäni joku puhuu epäkunnioittavasti japanilaisista. Olihan mustia toki Iranissa - orjina - niin kuin eurooppalaisia ns. valkoisiakin. En toki olen nähnyt Valtaojan sukupuuta, mutta tuntuu mielekkäältä oletukselta, että siellä kukaan ei ole nauttinut afrikkalaisten orjien palveluista sen jälkeen kun proto-Valtaoja itse kymmeniä tuhansia vuosia sitten mantereen jätti. Voiko samaa sanoa Ebrahimista?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 21.11.2021, 20:29:22
Miksi toi ämmä ei woketa Iranissa? Siellä laitettaisiin muija kaavun alle ihan ekana joten ei taida huvittaa?

Onko toi ämmä etnisyydeltään persialainen ja farsinkielinen? Eikö hän tajua sitä että edustaa sitä rotua joka oli natsien mielestä arjalainen rotu? (Mihin persialaiset sijoitettiin niissä rotu/etnisyys-taulukoissa?)

Mikä on hänen mielipide rotujen ja etnisyyksien suhteista Iranissa? Suurin ryhmä on persialaiset, muut merkittävät ryhmät ovat azerit ja kurdit. Sitten on pienempiä etnisyyksiä joista osa puhuu iranilaisten kielten kieliryhmään kuuluvia kieliä. Sitten on muita kuiten armenialaiset ja juutalaiset tms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicities_in_Iran

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Iran
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 21.11.2021, 20:31:35
Quote from: RP on 21.11.2021, 20:25:55
Quote from: Hohtava Mamma on 21.11.2021, 20:07:53
Eli neekeri saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi, mutta valkoinen ei saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi.

Iranin kurdi (ymmärtääkseni, ihmiseksi, jolleka "ruskeus" on niin tärkeätä, ainakaan kovin usein hän ei itse mainitse tarkkaa alkuperäänsä) ei ole neekri/musta/"afroeurooppalainen". Vaikka maantieteellisesti lähempänä sijaitsevatkin, muutoin hänen loukkaantumisensa afrikkalaisten puolesta on sama kuin jos minä ottaisin henkilökohtaisesti nokkiini siitä, jos mielestäni joku puhuu epäkunnioittavasti japanilaisista. Olihan mustia toki Iranissa - orjina - niin kuin eurooppalaisia ns. valkoisiakin. En toki olen nähnyt Valtaojan sukupuuta, mutta tuntuu mielekkäältä oletukselta, että siellä kukaan ei ole nauttinut afrikkalaisten orjien palveluista sen jälkeen kun proto-Valtaoja itse kymmeniä tuhansia vuosia sitten mantereen jätti. Voiko samaa sanoa Ebrahimista?

Kävikö jossain ilmi onko hän persialainen, azeri, kurdi vai jotain muuta etnisyyttä joita Iranissa on?

Quote from: RP on 21.11.2021, 20:03:23
Pienenä trivian poikasena: Iranissa orjuudesta tuli laitota 64 vuotta myöhemmin kuin Alabamassa.
1929?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 21.11.2021, 20:32:49
Quote from: Vellamo on 21.11.2021, 19:41:36
Hysteerisesti ja aggressiivisesti puhunut Renaz Ebrahim paasasi Sannikan haastattelussa sormea osoittaen Valtaojalle: "Jos mä nyt esimerkiksi lyön sinua, jos löisin sinua...". Tällainen kielenkäyttökö sitten ylläpitää 'turvallista tilaa'?

Nenäpäivä-hyväntekeväisyystempaus, joka juuri keräsi 3 miljoonaa euroa kehitysmaiden lapsille ja johon Valtaoja oli osallistunut, on Ebrahimin mielestä 'ongelmallinen, kärsimyskuvastoa ylläpitävä'. Että semmoista.

Perinteinen tapa hankkia turvallisuuden tunne ja korvaus loukkauksesta on loukata takaisin ja konkreettisesti lyönti saa usein aikaan kohteen loukkaantumisen sekä fyysisesti että henkisesti. Näin tuo kehitysmaakontekstissa yleensä menee. Iran toki on vanha sivistysmaa, mutta länsimaat ovat ajaneet ohi sivistyksessä jo satoja vuosia sitten. Ei nainen sentään tappanut Valtaojaa suorassa lähetyksessä eikä edes toteuttanut jossitteluaan, joten jotain ihmistapoja vielä löytyy. Moraali on kulttuurisidonnainen, minun mielestäni, ja iranilainen tapakulttuuri rakentuu islamin lain varaan. Lyönti (kämmensyrjällä kasvoihin) on siten oikeutettu vastaus solvaukseen, jollainen sana neekeri näköjään on, vaikka sana ei lyömisellä jossittelijaan suoransisesti kohdistunutkaan. Puolestaloukkaantuminen on toki wokea parhaimmillaan.

Eiköhän nenäpäiväkeräys voisi jatkossa kohdistua suomalaislapsien auttamiseksi, niin "kärsimyskuvastona" eivät ole nälkiintyneet neekerilapset Sudanissa vaan Suomessa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 21.11.2021, 20:34:10
Viisaus löytyy joskus Twitterin syövereistä:

https://twitter.com/Markku69855834/status/1462428103297404932?s=20

[tweet]1462428103297404932[/tweet]
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 21.11.2021, 20:39:37
Onko hän siis kurdi? Miksi ylipäätään Iranin Kurdistanista kotoisin olevalle on annettu turvapaikka? Onko siellä käynnissä jokin henkilökohtainen vaino? Kuka tai ketkä siellä ovat vainonneet ja ketä/keitä? Onko Iranin kurdistan turvallinen alue Iranin kurdeille itselleen?

Onko kyse vain siitä että toi ämmä pärjäisi siellä Iranin kurdialueella?

Ovatko Iranin kurdit yleisesti ottaen islamin tai shiia-islamin tulkinnassa tai sen käytännön soveltamisessa ja noudattamisessa yhtä kovalinjaisia kuin persialaiset vai ovatko löysempiä sen suhteen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Kurdistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_separatism_in_Iran
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eisernes Kreuz on 21.11.2021, 20:40:41
Aika paljon kertoo tuo, kuinka Yle on pohtinut ohjelman sensuroimista feministien reaktion pelossa. Siihen suuntaan olemme nyt yhteiskuntana menossa.

Nämä intersektionaaliset feministit tahtovat käytännössä kumota vallitsevan yhteiskuntajärjestelmän, mikä onkin tietysti aivan luonnollista, koska heidän ideologiansa ammentaa kumouksellisesta marxilaisuudesta. Kyse on äärimmäisen vahingollisesta ja vaarallisesta ideologiasta. Sen leviäminen yhteiskunnan kaikille sektoreille tulisi pysäyttää, ennen kuin on liian myöhäistä. Nyt jo vaikuttaa siltä, että feministeillä on tukeva jalansija monissa tärkeissä ministeriöissä ja niiden alaisissa virastoissa.

Pisimmälle tilanne on kehittynyt USA:ssa, tämän postmodernin feminismin syntysijoilla. Siellä mm. liittovaltion virastoissa järjestetään pakollisia feministisiä koulutuksia työntekijöille - aivan kuin jossain totalitaristisessa diktatuurissa. Myös monet yksityiset yritykset harrastavat samaa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mora on 21.11.2021, 20:57:53
Quote from: RP on 21.11.2021, 20:25:55
Quote from: Hohtava Mamma on 21.11.2021, 20:07:53
Eli neekeri saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi, mutta valkoinen ei saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi.

Iranin kurdi (ymmärtääkseni, ihmiseksi, jolleka "ruskeus" on niin tärkeätä, ainakaan kovin usein hän ei itse mainitse tarkkaa alkuperäänsä) ei ole neekeri/musta/"afroeurooppalainen". Vaikka maantieteellisesti lähempänä sijaitsevatkin, muutoin hänen loukkaantumisensa afrikkalaisten puolesta on sama kuin jos minä ottaisin henkilökohtaisesti nokkiini siitä, jos mielestäni joku puhuu epäkunnioittavasti japanilaisista. Olihan mustia toki Iranissa - orjina - niin kuin eurooppalaisia ns. valkoisiakin. En toki olen nähnyt Valtaojan sukupuuta, mutta tuntuu mielekkäältä oletukselta, että siellä kukaan ei ole nauttinut afrikkalaisten orjien palveluista sen jälkeen kun proto-Valtaoja itse kymmeniä tuhansia vuosia sitten mantereen jätti. Voiko samaa sanoa Ebrahimista?
On muuten mielenkiintoista, että esim. Seida Sohrabi ei saa puhua näistä asioista kuulemma yhtään mitään, koska on "white pass" -henkilö. Nyt studiossa oli vaalea, ja jos vallan suurennuslasilla katsotaan, niin Sohrabiakin vaaleampi henkilö. Onko "ruskeuden" edellytys oikeastaan vain se että osaa puhua tarpeeksi pöhköjä?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 21.11.2021, 21:09:51
Quote from: Mora on 21.11.2021, 20:57:53
Quote from: RP on 21.11.2021, 20:25:55
Quote from: Hohtava Mamma on 21.11.2021, 20:07:53
Eli neekeri saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi, mutta valkoinen ei saa sanoa neekeriä neekeriksi.

Iranin kurdi (ymmärtääkseni, ihmiseksi, jolleka "ruskeus" on niin tärkeätä, ainakaan kovin usein hän ei itse mainitse tarkkaa alkuperäänsä) ei ole neekeri/musta/"afroeurooppalainen". Vaikka maantieteellisesti lähempänä sijaitsevatkin, muutoin hänen loukkaantumisensa afrikkalaisten puolesta on sama kuin jos minä ottaisin henkilökohtaisesti nokkiini siitä, jos mielestäni joku puhuu epäkunnioittavasti japanilaisista. Olihan mustia toki Iranissa - orjina - niin kuin eurooppalaisia ns. valkoisiakin. En toki olen nähnyt Valtaojan sukupuuta, mutta tuntuu mielekkäältä oletukselta, että siellä kukaan ei ole nauttinut afrikkalaisten orjien palveluista sen jälkeen kun proto-Valtaoja itse kymmeniä tuhansia vuosia sitten mantereen jätti. Voiko samaa sanoa Ebrahimista?
On muuten mielenkiintoista, että esim. Seida Sohrabi ei saa puhua näistä asioista kuulemma yhtään mitään, koska on "white pass" -henkilö. Nyt studiossa oli vaalea, ja jos vallan suurennuslasilla katsotaan, niin Sohrabiakin vaaleampi henkilö. Onko "ruskeuden" edellytys oikeastaan vain se että osaa puhua tarpeeksi pöhköjä?

Se on juuri näin, rotu muuttuu sen mukaan puhutko wokea vai suomea. Tai pelkästään se jos woke-agenda voi hyötyä sinusta, voi muuttaa ihonvärisi. Kuten Rittenhousen ampumat kolme valkoista mellakoijaa jotka muuttuivat useiden medioiden ja woke-piirien narratiivissa mustaihoisiksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Friedrich81 on 21.11.2021, 21:21:20
No jooh... tuo nainen kuuluu kurdeihin, eli ihan liinan puhdas indoeurooppalainen väestö.... En ole mitenkään syvällisesti perehtynyt tähän Woke-kulttuuriin, mutta tässä olisi jotain kiinnostavaa yhdestä saksalaislähteestä (vanha artikkeli - käänsin suomeksi).

QuoteWoke on termi, joka on suunniteltu kuvaamaan vähemmistöihin kohdistuvaa sortoa ja rasismia. Afroamerikkalaisten keskuudesta lähtenyt termi käytettiin kuvaamaan tahoja, tekoja ja poliittisia ja sosiaalisia asioita, jotka pahensivat afroamerikkalaisten asemaa ja tilannetta. Esimerkiksi Alabamassa "whites-only"-kulttuuria ylläpitäneitä henkilöitä ja tahoja ilmiannettiin toisille "stay woke"-viesteillä keskusteluiden aikana. Tästä termistä syntyi myöhemmin woke-kulttuuri, joka on tänä päivänä hyvin laajalle levinnyt ideologia, jolla halutaan tuottaa paineita ja hiljentää niitä tahoja/henköitä, joiden uskotaan kuuluvan sellaisiin ryhmiin/aatteisiin, jotka edistävät tai normalisoivat rasismia tai vähemmistöihin kohdistuvaa sortoa.

Ilmiö on levinnyt hyvin laajalle ja se on saanut paljon tukea etenkin vaikutusvaltaisilta juutalaisilta, kiinalaisilta, irlantilaisilta ja Yhdysvaltojen demokraateilta. Myöhemmin tämä sama ilmiö levitettiin sorrettujen vähemmistöjen keskuudessa, jonka takia täällä Saksassa esim. kurdinationalistit rahoittivat woke-kulttuuria levittäviä tahoja. Yksi näistä levittäjistä on Hamdi Ulukaya, kurdistaustainen yhdysvaltalainen miljardööri, joka tuki woke-kulttuuria levittävää vasemmistolaissaksalaisia noin 8 miljoonalla eurolla viime vuonna.

Koska EU-maat ovat sotilaallisesti, poliittisesti ja taloudelliesti tukeneet kurdeja sortavia tahoja jo lähes 40 vuotta, kurdeja rekrytoidaan entistä enemmän woke-kulttuurin levittäjiksi. Esim. Turkin kurdit, jotka ovat alueen (Turkin) alkuperäiskansa, on vuodesta 1960 pakotettu luopumaan kurdinkielisistä nimistä vankeustuomion uhalla. Vuonna 2018 YK:n tekemässä tutkimuksessa selvisi, että 99%:lla Turkin kurdeilla oli turkkilaiset etunimet ja sukunimet. Lisäksi yksikään kurdeista ei ollut koskaan opiskellut omalla äidinkielellä. Turkin kurdit, joita on lähes 15 miljoona eivät edelleen saa opiskella omalla äidinkiellä omalla maaperällään. Myöskään itsehallintoa heillä ei ole, eikä hyväksytä. Turkkilaiset ylläpitävät tätä ihmisyydenvastaista rikosta EU-maiden tuella ja hyväksynnällä, ja tämä on valitettavasti saanut Euroopan Unionia ja sen jäsenmaita naurun alaiseksi sekä Aasiassa että Afrikassa.

Turkkilaisille aseita ja puolustusteknologia myyviä EU-maita on myös neuvottu välttämään voimankäyttöä sellaisissa tilanteissa, joissa on mukana kurdeja. EU:n sotilaallisella, taloudellisella ja poliittisella tuella armeijansa modernisoinut Turkki on suorittanut lukuisia etnisiä puhdistuksia kurdien alueilla. Tilalle on tuotu arabeja, uiguureja ja muita turkkilaisia kansoja Mongoliasta ja turkkilaisista maista. Saksalaisviranomaisten mukaan näin on neuvottu, koska kurdinationalisteilta pelätään kostoa.

He ovat tietoisia siitä, että turkkilaiset tekevät näitä julmuuksia EU:n luvalla... Kyllä, he tietävät myös sen, että kansainvälinen yhteisö ei tuomitse Turkkia, koska me(EU) emme anna sen tapahtua. Mutta me kerroimme (kanslerille), että tavalla tai toisella he tuovat mustia pilviä ympärillemme. Tobiaksen mukaan ongelma on poliittinen ongelma, joten hän ei osaa vastata (kysymykseen).

Kurdinationalisteilla on taas meno päällä...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: koojii on 21.11.2021, 21:23:22
Quote from: Vellamo on 21.11.2021, 19:41:36
Hysteerisesti ja aggressiivisesti puhunut Renaz Ebrahim paasasi Sannikan haastattelussa sormea osoittaen Valtaojalle: "Jos mä nyt esimerkiksi lyön sinua, jos löisin sinua...". Tällainen kielenkäyttökö sitten ylläpitää 'turvallista tilaa'?

Nenäpäivä-hyväntekeväisyystempaus, joka juuri keräsi 3 miljoonaa euroa kehitysmaiden lapsille ja johon Valtaoja oli osallistunut, on Ebrahimin mielestä 'ongelmallinen, kärsimyskuvastoa ylläpitävä'. Että semmoista.

Afrikassa savimajoissa asuvat nälkää näkevät "neegerilapset" ovat sitä kuvastoa jolla ne niitä rahoja saavat kerättyä paremmin suomalaisilta. Vielä parempi kerääjän tuloksen kannalta jos lapsi on vielä tyttö ja mielellään sairas tai vammainen ja sen lisäksi orpo.

Voisihan  se olla, että vähemmän nenäpäivänäkin saisivat rahaa kerättyä suomalaisilta kun televisiossa näyttäisivät jotain 25-vuotiaita nuoruokaisia partalapsia maleksimassa iPhonet käsissä jossain Nigerian Lagosin kaupungin ostarilla kashmirvillasta tehdyissä loistavasti istuvassa räätälinpuvuissa.

Tietenkään niitä SPR yhdistystä ja muita rahankerääjiä ei kiinnosta muuta kuin saada mahdollisimman paljon itselle rahaa vedettäväksi välistä omiin taskuihin ja jaettavaksi korruptioon eteenpäin, niin rahaa kerätään surutta niillä savimajojen kärsivillä "neekkeri" lapsilla vaikka se aiheuttaisikin vääränlaisen kuvan kotikatsomoihin Suomessa Afrikasta. Ilmeisesti tuollainen on sitä parempaa hyväksikäyttöä kun siihen ei kukaan puutu.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 21.11.2021, 21:32:17
Quote from: Vellamo on 21.11.2021, 19:41:36
Nenäpäivä-hyväntekeväisyystempaus, joka juuri keräsi 3 miljoonaa euroa kehitysmaiden lapsille ja johon Valtaoja oli osallistunut, on Ebrahimin mielestä 'ongelmallinen, kärsimyskuvastoa ylläpitävä'. Että semmoista.

Tästä voisi tulla kysyttävää jos ei olisi ruskeaksi ilmoittautunut uhri-ihminen:

https://twitter.com/hurumdara2/status/1462449834590416903/photo/1

[tweet]1462449834590416903[/tweet]
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 21.11.2021, 21:37:39
Nostanpa vielä tähän Ylen jutun (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12195118) otsikosta:
QuoteKaksi eri laidan vaikuttajaa ajautui kiivaaseen väittelyyn keskustellessaan cancel-kulttuurista
Mitkä ovat ne "laidat" joiden sisällä suomalaisten valtaosa, tai edes 50,01% enemmistö, sijaitsee ja jonka määrittävät toisaalta Valtaoja ja toisaalta Ebrahimi? Mikä akseli - älykyysosamäärä?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Friedrich81 on 21.11.2021, 21:41:31
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 21.11.2021, 20:39:37
Onko hän siis kurdi? Miksi ylipäätään Iranin Kurdistanista kotoisin olevalle on annettu turvapaikka? Onko siellä käynnissä jokin henkilökohtainen vaino? Kuka tai ketkä siellä ovat vainonneet ja ketä/keitä? Onko Iranin kurdistan turvallinen alue Iranin kurdeille itselleen?

Onko kyse vain siitä että toi ämmä pärjäisi siellä Iranin kurdialueella?

Ovatko Iranin kurdit yleisesti ottaen islamin tai shiia-islamin tulkinnassa tai sen käytännön soveltamisessa ja noudattamisessa yhtä kovalinjaisia kuin persialaiset vai ovatko löysempiä sen suhteen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Kurdistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_separatism_in_Iran

Osittain myös tästä syystä.

Quote

Koska EU-maat ovat sotilaallisesti, poliittisesti ja taloudelliesti tukeneet kurdeja sortavia tahoja jo lähes 40 vuotta, kurdeja rekrytoidaan entistä enemmän woke-kulttuurin levittäjiksi. Esim. Turkin kurdit, jotka ovat alueen (Turkin) alkuperäiskansa, on vuodesta 1960 pakotettu luopumaan kurdinkielisistä nimistä vankeustuomion uhalla. Vuonna 2018 YK:n tekemässä tutkimuksessa selvisi, että 99%:lla Turkin kurdeilla oli turkkilaiset etunimet ja sukunimet. Lisäksi yksikään kurdeista ei ollut koskaan opiskellut omalla äidinkielellä. Turkin kurdit, joita on lähes 15 miljoona eivät edelleen saa opiskella omalla äidinkiellä omalla maaperällään. Myöskään itsehallintoa heillä ei ole, eikä hyväksytä. Turkkilaiset ylläpitävät tätä ihmisyydenvastaista rikosta EU-maiden tuella ja hyväksynnällä, ja tämä on valitettavasti saanut Euroopan Unionia ja sen jäsenmaita naurun alaiseksi sekä Aasiassa että Afrikassa.

Turkkilaisille aseita ja puolustusteknologia myyviä EU-maita on myös neuvottu välttämään voimankäyttöä sellaisissa tilanteissa, joissa on mukana kurdeja. EU:n sotilaallisella, taloudellisella ja poliittisella tuella armeijansa modernisoinut Turkki on suorittanut lukuisia etnisiä puhdistuksia kurdien alueilla. Tilalle on tuotu arabeja, uiguureja ja muita turkkilaisia kansoja Mongoliasta ja turkkilaisista maista. Saksalaisviranomaisten mukaan näin on neuvottu, koska kurdinationalisteilta pelätään kostoa.


CDU:lla oli ainakin sellainen politiikka, että mitä enemmän kurdeja olisi Saksassa sitä vähemmän meillä olisi riski aseelliseen konfliktiin tai joutua heidän kostoiskuihin.

Kiistämättä toimiva ratkaisu, mutta kamalan kamala ratkaisu....
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: L. Brander on 21.11.2021, 21:44:30
Yhtä lailla, kun pidämme näitä hyvin alhaisen älykkyyden tasolla leikkiviä asioita jotenkin edes keskustelun arvoisena, pitäisi kysyä, miksi emme vain vihaa? Tuolla ei ole yhtään ihmistä, joka olisi ikinä elämässään halunnut tehdä jotain hyvää. Jos on, niin se oma itsekkyys ja Hyvä Ihminen menee kaiken edelle. Muiden hyvä on ajatushierarkiassa jossain numerolla 30. Sitä on suvakkius.

Vitun rasittavaa, kun Hommalakin on ihmisiä, jotka leikkii, että yhdessäkään tuollaisessa voisi olla jotain hyvää. "Harrastetaan vähän dialogia." Yhdenkään kanssa ei voi puhua, yksikään ei välitä mitään tieteestä ja todellisuudesta. Ei yksikään!

Yhdessäkään noista ei ole ollut mitään hyvää eikä ikinä voi tulla olemaan mitään hyvää.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tabula Rasa on 21.11.2021, 21:52:41
Quote from: Skeptikko on 21.11.2021, 17:58:33
https://twitter.com/petruspennanen/status/1462403127353790472
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Quote
"17.9.21 Renaz Ebrahim piti DJ-keikan Pasilan linkkitornista, jossa soitti 25 biisiä. Niissä esiintyi n-sana yhteensä 57 kertaa ja naista halventava h-sana 99 kertaa."

Näin hän todisti itse että Valtaoja on oikeassa: Sanojen loukkaavuus riippuu kontekstista.

Uppasin tuosta 16 sec pätkän, kertoo aika hyvin tyypin moraaliarvoista: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhoTQMQcaRo&ab_channel=RiippumatonLinja Olisin voinut laittaa homman servereille, mutten vielä tiedä miten jos mitenkään tänne voi upata videoklippejä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: koojii on 21.11.2021, 21:58:00
Quote from: RP on 21.11.2021, 21:37:39
Nostanpa vielä tähän Ylen jutun (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12195118) otsikosta:
QuoteKaksi eri laidan vaikuttajaa ajautui kiivaaseen väittelyyn keskustellessaan cancel-kulttuurista
Mitkä ovat ne "laidat" joiden sisällä suomalaisten valtaosa, tai edes 50,01% enemmistö, sijaitsee ja jonka määrittävät toisaalta Valtaoja ja toisaalta Ebrahimi? Mikä akseli - älykyysosamäärä?

Esko Valtaojan yleisälykkyys lienee vähintään kahden keskihajonnan verran yli keskiarvon. Eli voisi liittyä halutessaan Mensan jäseneksikin. Tämä arvio perustuu muutamaan hänen kirjoittamaansa kirjaan, jotka olen lukenut ja tullut niiden perusteella siihen johtopäätökseen.

Ramez Ebrahimin järjenjuoksu taas taitaa olla saman verran siellä toisella laidalla Gaussin käyrää.

Sitten taas jos suomalaiset jaetaan kahteen ryhmään sen suhteen, miten suhtautuvat Ramez Ebrahimin ja Esko Valtaojan Woke-ajatuksiin, niin veikkaisin että toiseen ryhmään kuuluu kenties se viisi prosenttia ja loput 95 prosenttia siihen toiseen ryhmään.

Ramez Ebrahimilta olisi kiva saada vastaus siihen, että onko hän ennakkoluuloissaan mennyt identifioimaan mielessään Esko Valtaojan esimerkiksi mieheksi tai miesoletetuksi tai valkoiseksi tai heteromieheksi vai onko hän huomioinut sen mahdollisuuden miten, että Esko Valtaoja saattaa identifioida itsensä esimerkiksi pieneksi "neekkerinaiseksi" joka on vielä lesbo? Millä ihmeen perusteella silloin Ramez Ebrahimin voi mennä Eskon puolesta päättämään miksi hän omaa ryhmäänsä kutsuu eli kutsuuko omaa ryhmäänsä vaikka värilliseksi, mustiksi, "neekkereiksi", "nekkruiksi" tai vaikka "niggga" tai "niggger" sanoilla?

(Yhden sanan kirjoittelen tähän ketjuun varsinkin kirjaimen tai kaksi tarkoituksella väärin, ettei joku laiska idiootti tutkija tee taas jotain ala-arvoista "tutkimusta" "rasismista" googlettamalla vain montako kertaa kyseinen sana löytyy tästä foorumista ilman että itse edes lukee kaikkia viestiketjujä ja viestejä täältä ja laskee itse ja osaa itse laskea. Vrt. https://cms.hommaforum.org/index.php/etusivu/kannanottoja/79-hommaforumin-vastine-vihapuheselvityksestae )

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 21.11.2021, 22:06:27
Renaz Ebrahimin kaltaisille woke-hysterian lietsojille on kai ominaista unohtaa se, mitä on itse ollut koostamassa. Renazin kaltaiset henkilöt elävät hetkessä, eli tässä ja nyt.
Se mihin ,tai missä he ovat aikaisemmin vaikuttaneet ei voi vaikuttaa nykyisyyteen.

En pidä Esko Valtaojaa kummoisena filosofina, oman tieteensä saralla on spesiaali ja todella arvostettu, kunnioitan miestä ja olen lukenut kirjan `Kotona maailman kaikkeudessa`  myötäilen,,ehkä perverssillä tavalla Valtaojan julki tuomaa näkemystä neekeröinnistä, ja n-sanan käyttämisestä,henkisen loukkaantumisen välineenä, kuten Renazin teki.
En ymmärrä miten joku voi menettää malttinsa keskustellessaan Valtaojan kaltaisen ihmisen kanssa..olen tavannut Valtaojan muutaman kerran..on kaikki ihmiset huomioon ottava, erittäin älykäs, analyyttinen, ..ehkä Sannikka ei huomioinut ohjelmaa tehdessään, että toinen keskustelija on woke-pissis ja toinen arvostettu tietokirjailija?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: koojii on 21.11.2021, 22:40:28
Quote from: simppali on 21.11.2021, 22:06:27

En ymmärrä miten joku voi menettää malttinsa keskustellessaan Valtaojan kaltaisen ihmisen kanssa..olen tavannut Valtaojan muutaman kerran..on kaikki ihmiset huomioon ottava, erittäin älykäs, analyyttinen, ..ehkä Sannikka ei huomioinut ohjelmaa tehdessään, että toinen keskustelija on woke-pissis ja toinen arvostettu tietokirjailija?

Ehkä jatkossa järkevät ihmiset osaavat jättää väliin valtiollista propagandaa tuuttaavan Ylen ohjelmiin osallistumisen jos siellä on mukana joku woke-vammainen tapaus.

Itse olisi kyllä hauska kun huudattaisivat studiossa kunnolla ääripäitä. Tyyliin studioon Naisasialiitto Unionin Katju Aro tai muu vastaava äärihörhö-feministi ja sitten toisella puolen pöytää keskuskelemaan ja ajatuksia haastamaan jotain tunnetteuja "antifeministejä".

Sitten toiseen lähetyskertaan voisivat kutsua vaikka Renaz Ebrahimin jonkun hengenheimolaisensa kanssa ja sitten toisella puolen pöytää jonkun Seppo Lehdon ja Ano Turtiaisen haastamaan niitä näkemyksiä.

Ja formaattina tietenkin suoralähetys, niin ei tarvisi miettiä kenenkään jälkeenpäin mitään ennakkosensuureita.

Sitten voisi olla joku kerta vaikka vieraana jotain akkoja, jotka identifioivat itsensä vaikka miesoletuiksi ja ukkoja jotka identifioivat itsensä koiriksi. Ja sitten vastapuolella joku joka ei identifioi itseään miksikään muuksi kuin mikä on.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 21.11.2021, 22:45:51
Tämä on aika hauska.
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Jos seuraa linkkiä, IS:n jutussa on lopussa maininta päivityksestä, mutta lukijoille kerrotaan yhä, että lähetys jakoi mielipteet, ja sitten järjestyksessä aloitetaan Vuorenpäästä, jota seuraa Matias Turkkila (kannan arvannette), sitten Seida Sohrabi (se kokoomuksen kurdiedustaja, josta tässäkin ketjussa on mainittu, että on välillä saanut kuulla olevansa liian valkoinen mielipiteittensä takia), Sitten "tummaihoisten edustajana" (oikeasti, noin IS sen määritteli) SDP:n kurdi Kamal Jafi, joka toteaa "Woke ja cancel-kulttuuri lisäävät epätasa-arvoa ja rasismia." ja "Kaikki tummat ihmiset eivät ajattele niin kuin Renaz Ebrahimi.🤦"
Sitten on yksi valittelu, että lähetys vain jakoi kansaa enemmän, mitä seuraa Arto Koskelon kommentti
QuoteTähtitieteilijä Esko Valtaoja sortui vihapuheeseen Ylellä. Toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimi puolusti vimmaisesti oikeita mielipiteitä. Katsojat saavat päättää, kumpi oli rasistisempi. Kalju mies vai ruskeatukkainen nainen.
ei ehkä täysin avaudu heti, joten laitetaan vielä jatkoksi toinen Koskelolta.
QuoteHuomenta! Onko kalju valkoinen mies jo cancelloitu? Vieläkö täällä on turvatonta tilaa, jossa on valkoihoisia? Eteneekö vallankumous suunnitelman mukaisesti? @wokepuolue
Siten lopulta Tero Hannula toivooo oikeuden tuomiota Valtaojalle. Pikaisesti laskien "kansan jakautuminen" meni siis 5,5:1,5
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JKN on 21.11.2021, 23:34:52
Valkoisuus on rotuopin aseeksi ottaneiden marxilaisten koodisana yksilölle. Jos kykenet itsenäiseen ajatteluun tai puolustat yksilön vapauksia, olet tällöin automaattisesti paha, rasisti ja liian valkoinen. Huvittavasti kriittinen rotuteoria ja uhriteoriat ovat siten itsessään rasistisia, sillä käänteisesti ne näkevät vain valkoisen itsestään vastuullisena yksilönä muiden ollessa heidän uhrejaan. Uhrit taas tarvitsevat pelastajakseen totalitarismia vapauttamaan heidät valkoisuuden ja yksilönvapauksien ikeestä.

Rajalinjat eivät siis kulje ihonvärin mukaan vaan yksilönvapauden ja marxilaisuuden välillä. Rotu on otettu vain keinotekoisesti mukaan rajalinjojen luomiseksi. Kuka tahansa yksilönvapauksistaan kiinni pitävä musta kuten David Chapelle voidaan nähdä liian "valkoisena" tai kuten Biden totesi: "Et ole musta jos äänestät Trumpia".
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Maastamuuttaja on 21.11.2021, 23:50:58
Pasilaan on perusteilla polvistumistori.Vihkiäispuheen pitää Jouko Jokinen. Tervehdyspuheen lausuu maamme imaamineuvoston johtaja. Ilmaiskoraanin jakelusta vastaa Jari Tervo.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 22.11.2021, 00:09:11
Quote from: Vellamo on 21.11.2021, 23:46:26
Lueskelin Nenäpäivän tyrmäämiseen liittyvää logiikkaa. Se on rasistisia valtarakenteita ylläpitävä ongelmallinen keräys, koska siinä oletetaan ruskeiden ihmisten olevan kyvyttömiä auttamaan itse itseään ja valkoiset ihmiset lähinnä pesevät omaatuntoaan puhtaaksi.

Tuohan on periaatteessa ihan totta.

Nenäpäivän idea on kerää rahaa erinäisille järjestöille, jotka auttamisen nimissä ovat sotkeutuneet kehitysmaiden asioihin. Tottakai näihin tempauksiin osallistutaan silloin mm. sen takia, että se antaa hyvän fiiliksen kun saa "auttaa". Eli se on eräänlaista omantunnon valkopesua.

Auttamisen implikaatio tietenkin on, että avustettava on avuton hoitamaan omat asiansa. Etenkin kun kyse ei ole esim. tilapäisestä katastrofiavuista vaan autetaan näiden pysyvien järjestöjen kautta, jotka usein ovat olleet esim. Afrikassa vuosikymmeniä sotkemassa paikallisten elämää, oletus on että avustettavat ovat pysyvästi avuttomia.

Wokelogiikan ristiriita on kuitenkin se, että juuri ne, jotka osallistuvat Nenäpäivään monesti ovat juuri wokeja.

Vaikuttaa siltä, että wokeleirin sisällä on eri fraktiota (kuten vasemmistossa aina on), joiden puritaanisuus vaihtelee. Ilmeisesti valkolaiset woket ostavat hyvän omantunnon Nenäpäivillä siinä missä ruskeat woket näkevät nenäpäivän imperialismina. Molemmat kuitenkin haluavat vaientaa väärinajattelijat ja väärinsanojat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 22.11.2021, 00:15:59
Onneksi valkoihoisia setämiehiä on viellä jäljellä. Woke-kulttuurin Ramezit kulkevat ainutlaatuista polkuaan vittuilemalla niille jotka ovat väsänneet tämän yhteiskunnan, vaikka tähtitieteilemällä.
Luultavasti usean ihmisen silmät kuvainnollisesti aukenesivat, siis aivoissa olevat synapsit kohtasivat toisensa, kun näkönappien (silmien) välityksellä olivat katsoneet iranilaisen radio persoonan hyökkäystä Valtaojaa kohtaan.

Lisään outoutta sisimmässäni aiheuttaneen kohdan palstan keskustelusta.
QuoteSiten lopulta Tero Hannula toivooo oikeuden tuomiota Valtaojalle. Pikaisesti laskien "kansan jakautuminen" meni siis 5,5:1,5

Mikä on Tero Hannula, ja missä oikeudessa hän haluaa Valtaojan tuomittavan...auskultoin syyttäjälaitoksessa toimien, tietääkseni Suomessa toimii kolme oikeusporrasta joihin Tero Hannula voisi vedota..käräjäoikeus, hovioikeus ja korkeinoikeus,,anna mennä Tero, tee tutkintapyyntö.
Joopa katselin tämän Teron historiaa twitterissä olevien kirjoitusten suhteen..sanon Terolle; mene kotiluolaan, paina otsa lattiaan ja mieti, mitä olet twitteröinyt.

Eräistä syistä johtuen minulla ei ole twitter-tiliä, eikä muitakaan somejuttuja..no kopsasin tämän Teron twiitin..
QuoteOikeudenmukaisessa maailmassa YLE, Sannikka ja Esko Valtaoja saisivat tuntuvat sakot.

Suomessa tuomitaan korvauksiin natsin kutsumisesta natsiksi.

Tero luultavasti viittaa Lokka/Vehkoo tapukseen..minua voi Tero lähestyä,,vaikkapa yv viestillä, voidaan puida mitä vaatii ihmisten,,kai Valtaojan ja Sannikan kohdilta oikeudenmukaisuuden vaatiminen..se vaatii muutakin, kuin twiitissä omiin käsiin purkaantumista..älä Tero lähde puimaan niitä asioita joita et ymmärrä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: justustr on 22.11.2021, 00:18:12
Quote from: RP
Siten lopulta Tero Hannula toivooo oikeuden tuomiota Valtaojalle. Pikaisesti laskien "kansan jakautuminen" meni siis 5,5:1,5

En kyllä ihan usko tuohon suhteiseen. Kiihkofeminismissä on vähän sama homma kuin hönöilyssä: pieni jengi pitää helvetillistä möykkää.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 22.11.2021, 01:06:50
Sen voisi vielä sanoa, että Valtaojan kritiikki Teuvo Hakkaraisem neekeriukkolausuntoa kohtaan meni kyllä ohi maalin. Kyse oli yksityiskeskustelusta, jonka joku oli salaa kuvannut, ei kansanedustajan julkisesta puheenvuorosta.

Lisäksi Teuvo käytti ilmaisua neekeriukko ikäryhmälleen asiallisesti. Niin meille kansakoulun käyneille aikanaan opetettiin.  Myös Martin Luther King puhui neekereistä eikä mustista.

Valtaoja sai maistaa omaa lääkettään. Kun ryhtyy suvakiksi, saa huomata, että joku on aina suvakimpi. Vallankumous syö lapsensa, sanottiin ennen vanhaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 22.11.2021, 01:38:10
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 22.11.2021, 01:06:50
Valtaoja sai maistaa omaa lääkettään. Kun ryhtyy suvakiksi, saa huomata, että joku on aina suvakimpi. Vallankumous syö lapsensa, sanottiin ennen vanhaan.

Quote from: Roope on 13.10.2014, 11:33:40
Postiluukusta tipahtaneen Verkkokauppa.comin mainoslehden ohessa oli muutama City-lehden sivu:
Quote from: City: Järkipuhetta eduskunnalleEsko Valtaoja
"Poliittisesti korrekti ja riittävä responssi valiokunnan herrasmiehille on tietysti "Imekää munaa, molot!" Mutta vastaan äänestäneethän edustavat vain meitä, kansaa, me heidät olemme eduskuntaan äänestäneet. Terveisiä siis keskustan, kristillisten, persujen ja kokoomuksen äänestäjille: tätäkö todella haluatte?"

"Kuka olisi 70-luvulla uskonut homoon presidenttiehdokkaaseen, Tom-postimerkkeihin, tai edes siihen, että Maria Veitola vetää tyttökielarit suorassa lähetyksessä? Muutaman kymmenen vuoden kuluttua kukaan ei edes kehtaa tunnustaa vastustaneensa tasa-arvoa. Mutta voisi se väistämätön kehitys joskus kehittyä hieman ripeämminkin."

Taisi väistämätön kehitys purra valkoista setämiestä omaan nilkkaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: koojii on 22.11.2021, 01:58:08
Quote from: Roope on 13.10.2014, 11:33:40
Postiluukusta tipahtaneen Verkkokauppa.comin mainoslehden ohessa oli muutama City-lehden sivu:
Quote from: City: Järkipuhetta eduskunnalleEsko Valtaoja
"Poliittisesti korrekti ja riittävä responssi valiokunnan herrasmiehille on tietysti "Imekää munaa, molot!" Mutta vastaan äänestäneethän edustavat vain meitä, kansaa, me heidät olemme eduskuntaan äänestäneet. Terveisiä siis keskustan, kristillisten, persujen ja kokoomuksen äänestäjille: tätäkö todella haluatte?"
"Kuka olisi 70-luvulla uskonut homoon presidenttiehdokkaaseen, Tom-postimerkkeihin, tai edes siihen, että Maria Veitola vetää tyttökielarit suorassa lähetyksessä? Muutaman kymmenen vuoden kuluttua kukaan ei edes kehtaa tunnustaa vastustaneensa tasa-arvoa. Mutta voisi se väistämätön kehitys joskus kehittyä hieman ripeämminkin."

Linkki kyseiseen em. haastatteluun City-lehdessä:

https://www.city.fi/yhteiskunta/esko+valtaojan+vastaus+avioliittolain+kumoon+aanestaneille+imekaa+munaa+molot/8036/sivu-3

Munan imeminen, Maria Veitola ja väistämätön kehitys, siinähän ne tärkeimmät.

Quote from: Roope on 22.11.2021, 01:38:10
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 22.11.2021, 01:06:50
Valtaoja sai maistaa omaa lääkettään. Kun ryhtyy suvakiksi, saa huomata, että joku on aina suvakimpi. Vallankumous syö lapsensa, sanottiin ennen vanhaan.

Quote from: Roope on 13.10.2014, 11:33:40
Postiluukusta tipahtaneen Verkkokauppa.comin mainoslehden ohessa oli muutama City-lehden sivu:
Quote from: City: Järkipuhetta eduskunnalleEsko Valtaoja
"Poliittisesti korrekti ja riittävä responssi valiokunnan herrasmiehille on tietysti "Imekää munaa, molot!" Mutta vastaan äänestäneethän edustavat vain meitä, kansaa, me heidät olemme eduskuntaan äänestäneet. Terveisiä siis keskustan, kristillisten, persujen ja kokoomuksen äänestäjille: tätäkö todella haluatte?"

"Kuka olisi 70-luvulla uskonut homoon presidenttiehdokkaaseen, Tom-postimerkkeihin, tai edes siihen, että Maria Veitola vetää tyttökielarit suorassa lähetyksessä? Muutaman kymmenen vuoden kuluttua kukaan ei edes kehtaa tunnustaa vastustaneensa tasa-arvoa. Mutta voisi se väistämätön kehitys joskus kehittyä hieman ripeämminkin."

Taisi väistämätön kehitys purra valkoista setämiestä omaan nilkkaan.

Sama miten äärilaitaan sitä menee janan jommassa kummassa päässä, niin taatusti aina löytyy jostakin vielä enemmän ja paljon radikaalimpaa toimintaa edustavaa äärilaitaa vaativia ihmisiä.

En yhtään edes epäile sitä että Renaz Ebrahimi edustaisi woke-feminismi hulluudessaan lainkaan sitä kaikista äärimmäistä tasoa vaan eiköhän siellä laidassa löydy vielä jotain vielä paljon radikaalimpaa hihhulia joka vaatii kiihkossaan jotain Lopullista ratkaisua (saks. Endlösung), jolla valkoiseen rotuun kuuluvat uunitetaan kaikki ja jäljelle jäävät miesoletetut kaikki kastroidaan perinteisellä tyylillä. Varmaan sekään ei vielä edusta hulluudun äärimmäisyyttä siellä laidalla vaan paljon hullumpia ja radikaalimpiakin ajatuksia ja vaatimuksia on jollakin.

En tiedä missä vaiheessa tajuaa Renaz Ebrahimi tehneensä oman maalin Sannikka-ohjelmassa ja lorotelleen kunnolla omiin muroihinsa. Vai tajuaako milloinkaan?

Halutessaan Yleisradion suuntaan voi antaa palautetta haluamastaan asiasta vaikka internetin kautta:

https://asiakaspalvelu.yle.fi/s/?language=fi
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 22.11.2021, 02:16:27
Quote from: koojii on 22.11.2021, 01:58:08
En tiedä missä vaiheessa tajuaa Renaz Ebrahimi tehneensä oman maalin Sannikka-ohjelmassa ja lorotelleen kunnolla omiin muroihinsa. Vai tajuaako milloinkaan?

Hyvinhän tuo pärjäsi, mitä olen kuullut.

Niin Yle, Sannikka kuin Valtaojakin myötäilivät haastamisen sijasta. Matelusta päätellen taisi olla viimeinen kerta, kun Ylellä sanottiin neekeri.

Suuri osa katsojista ajatteli aggressiosta, että ahaa, noiden seurassa on parempi olla hiljaa ja nyökytellä kaikelle, mitä sanovat, ettei tule konfliktia. Näin voitettiin ilmaherruus.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 04:03:21
Blogi: Mikko Paunio, la 20.11.2021 15:36
Kiitos YLE:n toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimi woke-ideologian oikean luonteen paljastamisesta

https://oikeamedia.com/o1-169700

QuoteYLE:n Sannikassa vietiin eilen suomalaista keskustelukulttuuria monta piirua oikeaan suuntaan, koska siinä paljastui woke-ideologian autoritaarisuus. Ensimmäisen haastatteluosuuden huipennuksessa tiedetoimittaja ja tietokirjailija Osmo Tammisalo iski asian ytimeen, eli siihen, että nykyinen yhteiskunnallinen ilmapiiri woken myötä uhkaa ihmisten oikeutta omaan itsenäiseen ajatteluun ja että woke-ideologia ei edusta liberaalia aatetta, vaan autoritaarista pakottavaa aatetta.

Seuraavassa osuudessa YLE:n toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimi ja kosmologian emeritusprofessori Esko Valtaoja keskustelivat mielipiteen vapaudesta, woke-ideologiasta känselöinteineen ja intersektionaaliuuksineen. Olen muutamaan otteeseen kirjoittanut tässä blogissani USA:n yliopistoista levinneen woke-ideologian tuonnista sanoineen päivineen Suomeen ja mitä absurdiuksia ja älyttömyyksiä siitä seuraa.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 22.11.2021, 11:06:21
Huomasin että tässä keskustelussa noin kaikkien medioiden tasolla moni sanoo että ihmisen koti olisi kuitenkin kiistämättä Afrikassa, jne jne.

YLE:ltä tuli kuitenkin dokkari n. vuosi sitten, jossa on paljon todisteita, että alkukoti on ur-Euroopassa: https://areena.yle.fi/1-50389964

Lisää vettä myllyyn.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 22.11.2021, 11:11:45
Quote from: justustr on 22.11.2021, 00:18:12
Quote from: RP
Siten lopulta Tero Hannula toivooo oikeuden tuomiota Valtaojalle. Pikaisesti laskien "kansan jakautuminen" meni siis 5,5:1,5

En kyllä ihan usko tuohon suhteiseen. Kiihkofeminismissä on vähän sama homma kuin hönöilyssä: pieni jengi pitää helvetillistä möykkää.
Suhdehan oli puhtaasti siitä "otoksesta" jonka Iltasanomat oli käsin poiminut. Yleistettävyys ~0, mutta silti mielestäni lievästi koominen esitettäväksi mielipiteitten jakautumisesta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 22.11.2021, 11:23:07
Quote from: Roope on 22.11.2021, 02:16:27
Niin Yle, Sannikka kuin Valtaojakin myötäilivät haastamisen sijasta.

Katsoimmekohan samaa ohjelmaa? Toki Valtaoja joitakin kertoja yritti kainosti yrittää löytää yhteistä pohjaa, mutta ei hän perusteeseistään luopunut. Toki se joistakin näyttää hieman pliisulta, kon toisella puolella on joku, joka avoimesti käytää mielensä järkkymistä argumenttina omalla puolellaan, mutta eihän kantaansa pyörtänyt. Valtaojan luontaisen äänensävyn nyt vielä ollessa, mitä on, niin parempi pysyä senkin puolesta mahdollisimman rauhallisena.

Sannika itse ei jäänyt juri mieleen (Mikä EI ole moite. Jos studiossa on jo kaksi muuta henkilöä, ei hänen pääsääntönä juuri pitäisikään), mutta se anteeksipyynöt oli jälkikäteinen.
   
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Antti Ruokolainen on 22.11.2021, 11:25:25
Quote from: Roope on 22.11.2021, 02:16:27
Niin Yle, Sannikka kuin Valtaojakin myötäilivät haastamisen sijasta. Matelusta päätellen taisi olla viimeinen kerta, kun Ylellä sanottiin neekeri.
Myötäilivät ohjelmassa vai jälkikäteen? Jälkikäteen Sannikka pahoitteli sitä että osallistujalle tuli ohjelmassa paha mieli. Ihan asiallinen lähestymistapa. Valtaojaa harmitti, että häntä ei ennakkoon varoitettu minkälainen hullu hänen opponentikseen oli kutsuttu. Antoi vielä ymmärtää hänen jatkaneen riehuntaa kulisseissa. Sitä että YLE:llä ei enää koskaan sanottaisikaan "neekeri" en osaa nähdä suurena tappiona. Itse olen täysin yllättynyt siitä miten vähän tälle Renaz Ebrahimille on annettu siimaa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eisernes Kreuz on 22.11.2021, 12:00:30
Olisi tärkeää, että liberaalitkin oivaltaisivat intersektionaalisen feminismin olevan pohjimmiltaan totalitaristinen liike, joka ammentaa ideologiansa marxilaisesta kumouksellisuudesta ja kollektivismista. Niinpä esim. se kuuluisa valkoinen heteromies ei ole yksilö, vaan aina viiteryhmänsä edustaja, ja sellaisena kohdeltava. Tarkoitus pyhittää keinot -ajattelu on myös keskeinen osa feminismiä.

Moni hyväntahtoinen liberaali ei näytä em. seikkoja ymmärtävän, eikä siksi tajua myöskään feminismin vaarallisuutta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 22.11.2021, 12:45:06
[quote author=Eisernes Kreuz link=topic=131511.msg3367720#msg3367720 date=1637575230
Moni hyväntahtoinen liberaali ei näytä em. seikkoja ymmärtävän, eikä siksi tajua myöskään feminismin vaarallisuutta.
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Tämmöiset liberaalit ovat wannabe liberaaleja, eivätkä oikeita liberaaleja. Se pitäisi ollla itsestään selvää että marxilaisuus ja liberalismi ovat täysin toisensa poissulkevia aatteita.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 22.11.2021, 13:23:58
Quote from: RP on 22.11.2021, 11:23:07
Quote from: Roope on 22.11.2021, 02:16:27
Niin Yle, Sannikka kuin Valtaojakin myötäilivät haastamisen sijasta.

Katsoimmekohan samaa ohjelmaa? Toki Valtaoja joitakin kertoja yritti kainosti yrittää löytää yhteistä pohjaa, mutta ei hän perusteeseistään luopunut.

Quote from: Antti Ruokolainen on 22.11.2021, 11:25:25
Myötäilivät ohjelmassa vai jälkikäteen? Jälkikäteen Sannikka pahoitteli sitä että osallistujalle tuli ohjelmassa paha mieli. Ihan asiallinen lähestymistapa. (..) Sitä että YLE:llä ei enää koskaan sanottaisikaan "neekeri" en osaa nähdä suurena tappiona.

En siis ole katsonut ollenkaan vaan lukenut kuvauksia ja Ylen, Sannikan ja Valtaojan myöhempiä kommentteja.

Perusteeseistä luopumattomuus ei riitä alkuunkaan tilan ottamiseen näissä tapauksessa. Ei kyse ole sanasta neekeri vaan loputtomasta periksiantamisesta, jota puhe sanan sensuroinnista edustaa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 22.11.2021, 14:11:08
Quote from: Roope on 22.11.2021, 02:16:27
Niin Yle, Sannikka kuin Valtaojakin myötäilivät haastamisen sijasta. Matelusta päätellen taisi olla viimeinen kerta, kun Ylellä sanottiin neekeri.

Suuri osa katsojista ajatteli aggressiosta, että ahaa, noiden seurassa on parempi olla hiljaa ja nyökytellä kaikelle, mitä sanovat, ettei tule konfliktia. Näin voitettiin ilmaherruus.

Pinnallisesti asiahan on juuri noin. Kun joku alkaa mesoamaan ensimmäinen ja luonnollinen reaktio on väistää.

Mustalaiset ovat hyödyntäneet tätä toimintatapaa jo satoja vuosia. He tulevat ryminällä ja kovaäänisesti sisään haastamaan ihmisiä verbaalisesti vaikkei kukaan ole sanonut mitään. Sillä saa kaikki väistymään ja paikat ovat avoinna poimittavaksi.

Woket toimivat ihan samalla lailla kuten tämä prinsessaksi heittäytynyt YLE:n nevehööd neekeriksi itsensä tituleeraava arjalainen toimittaja. Väite, että hän kokisi turvattomuutta oli tietenkin täysin naurettava ja epäuskottava, mutta hysteerisesti dramatisoimalla väitettyä tunnetilaansa hän saa kaikki hämmästymään ja perääntymään kauhusta. en olisi ollut yllättynyt jos "neekeri"-toimittaja oli tekopyörtynyt lattialle turvattomuudessaan.

Se mitä mesoajavat eivät kuitenkaan onnistu tekemään on muutta ihmisten mielipiteet puolelleen. Mustalaiset eivät ole satojen vuosienkaan jälkeen onnistuneet hankkimaan itselleen kunnioitusta valtaväestöltä eikä wokehysteerikot tule sitä myöskään saamaan. Päinvastoin, mesaomisella nauttii vain tilapäisiä voittoja, mutta maine ryvetty yhä enemmän mitä enemmän meteliä pidetään ja ihmiset ottavat etäisyyttä.

Erikoista tässä oli, että "neekeri"-toimittaja puolusti mesoamista ja rasismiaan sillä, että "asioista pitää keskustella", jotta kaikki valkolaiset "tiedostaisivat" (olevansa huonoja ihmisiä syntymältään). "Neekeri"-toimittajan mukaan tällä päästään jonkinlaiseen harmoniseen ja tasa-arvoiseen yhteiskuntaan eli rasismi on välttämätön välivaihe kohti utopiaa (bolsheviikeillä taisi olla hieman samanlainen logiikka). Well, darling. Homma ei nyt vaan toimi niin, että tasa-arvoa ja harmoniaa saavutetaan jakamalla ihmiset rodun perusteella ja julistamalla osan perussyntisiksi luopioiksi.

YLE:n ohjelman lopputulos oli kuitenkin kokonaisuudessaan hyvä vaikka valkolainen toimittaja alkoi nöyristelemään ja pyytelemään anteeksi (ilmeisesti sen takia, että "neekeri" oli samassa talossa hommissa). Ohjelma osoitti suurelle yleisölle, miten lapsellisia kakaroita nämä intersektionaaliset wokefeministit (joksika "neekeri"-toimittaja itsensä kutsui) oikeasti ovat ja mitä hulluutta vasemmisto kauppaa kansalaisille.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2021, 14:38:40
Quote from: Dangr on 21.11.2021, 17:16:04
Hauskinta tässä on se, että ne heittää Valtaojankin rasistien kasaan. Mitä enemmän tätä tapahtuu, sitä enemmän ihmiset näkee tuon sumuverhon läpi.

Nimenomaan näin. Valtaoja on minun ymmärtääkseni kuitenkin enemmän tai vähemmän suvakki, joka osallistuu nenäpäiviin ja heterona suutelee miestä Tuomiokirkon portailla osoittaakseen edistyksellisyyttään ja laajakatseisuuttaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2021, 14:45:01
Quote from: räsänen on 21.11.2021, 17:45:33
... Minulle tuli myös mieleen Iiris Suomela jolla on samanlainen, äärimmäisen agressiivinen tapa esittää asioita. Hän latelee älyttömyyksiä liukuhihnalta niin että vasta-argumentoijalla on vaikeuksia saada mistään kiinni.

Ja näin taisi käydä nyt tosiaan Valtaojallekin, Renaz Ebrahimin älyttömyyksien ja fraasien vyöryttäminen sai Valtaojan selkeästi hämilleen ja hän ei oikein tiennyt että mihinkä noistä älyttömyyksistä pitäisi vastata.

Näin: kuka luulet olevasi kun kerron miten Suomessa pitää käyttäytyä? Palaa arjalainen kotimaahasi identifioitumaan ruskeaksi ja saarnaamaan woke-hulluuttasi niin katsotaan mitä sitten tapahtuu!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 22.11.2021, 15:45:26
Sannikan ohjelman vaaleanruskeahko omaa ruskeuttaan korostava henkilö sai silmäni avautumaan.

Meidän intelligentsia ja itsensä erityiseksi kokevat ihmiset ovat kateellisia neekereille. Korostamalla mustien ihmisten sortohistoriaa ja valkoisen ylivallan pahuutta nämä valkoiset ja vaaleanruskeat henkilöt haluavat jollain tavalla erottaa itsensä valkoisesta ylivallasta. He haluavat neekeröityä. Tällä tavalla voi puhua omasta viiteryhmästään ikään kuin ulkopuolisena. Onhan täällä hommallakin pitkäaikaisia jäseniä, joilla on tapana puhua hommalaisista sellaiseen sävyyn, kuin eivät itse kuuluisi foorumille...

Mutta -köh- palataan siis neekeröitymiseen. Neekeröityneitä henkilöoletettuja löytyy erityisesti porukoista, joita ovat mm. muslimit, takkutukat, feministit, wokettajat, sukupuoli- ja seksuaalivähemmistöt, maahanmuuttajat väristä riippumatta. Kaikkia näitä yhdistää se, että neekeröityminen on siellä omien korvien välissä. Se ei ole syntyperäistä vaan se on tehtyä. Miksei muka seksuaalinen poikkeavuus ole syntyperäistä? No itse poikkeavuus voi olla, mutta vasta sen korostaminen uhristatuksen saamiseksi on neekeröitymistä.

Mietitäänpä muita yhteiskunnassa syrjittyjä: Näkö- ja kuulovammaiset, jotka eivät pääse kaikkiin palveluihin. Liikuntavammaiset, MS-, ALS-, CP-ihmiset, Down-syndroomaiset, halvaantuneet, ... ryhmiä on monta. Heillä on tässä yhteiskunnassa todellisia ongelmia saada kaikki palvelut ja kyetä osallistumaan yhteiskunnan pyörittämiseen sen täysivaltaisena jäsenenä. Mutta miksi heitä ei näe itkemässä "turvatonta tilaa" pyörätuolissa Sannikassa, kun siellä pyörii tanssii tähtien kanssa tai joku Heguli steppailee vieressä? Siksi, koska heillä on oikeita ongelmia, eikä heidän tarvitse keksiä niitä: Neekeröityä.

Ensin vingutaan arabeille ja mustille erityiskohtelua ja sitten heittäydytään itse transmiesnaislesbohevoseksi tai joksikin muuksi trendikkääksi, tai jos suvussa on 32. polvessa musta, niin korostetaan kiharoita hiuksia ja ollaan niin ruskeita. Tai jos nimi on Utsjoki, niin vaikka asutaan helsingissä, ollaan niin poroisäntiä, jolta on maat viety...

Siksi esitänkin kaikille woke-ihmisille nimikkobiisiä:
Orkesteri! Soittakaa Kake Singers ja Halutaan olla neekereitä!

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: toumasho on 22.11.2021, 15:57:21
Nyt positiivinen asenne kehiin ja loppuu se voivottelu - eihän tässä ole mitään hätää! Riittää, että laitamme tuohon Yle-ohjelman keskusteluun Persiankieliset tekstitykset ja alku- sekä loppuselitykset Persian kielellä, että tämä woke-pimu loukkasi arvostetun tähtitieteilijä Esko Valtaojan kunniaa ja kävi fyysisesti hänen kimppuunsa. Niin eiköhän sieltä Renaz Ebrahimin kotikulttuurista löytyne ihan riittämiin raavaita muslimimiehiä, jotka enemmän kuin mielellään kertaavat monikulttuurin vaatimia käytöstapoja Renazille.  ;)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2021, 16:25:12
Än-sanan tabuttaminen on yksi merkki kielemme rappiosta, jonka tarkoitus on sementoida kansainvälisen eliitin ylivalta

1. Eräät kommunismin romahtamiseen pettyneet kulttihihhulit ovat tehneet än-sanasta tabun. Se siis tarkoittaa, että sana on joko pyhä tai vahingollinen/vaarallinen. Se on eri asioita eri ryhmille.

- Vahingollinen ja vaarallinen on neeger1, Eurooppaan tuotuna, valtaosalle länsimaista.

- Pyhä se kulttihihhulivähemmistölle, joka kuvittelee pysyvänsä hyötyvänsä tästä arvonkorotuksesta, siis että pyhiä neegere|tä ei saa arvostella. Etenkin ja erityisesti epäonnistuneeseen sosialismiin itsensä henkisesti lukinneet woke-hullut pyrkivät tuhoamaan niiden elämälaadun, joiden mielestä länsimainen sivistys, kriittinen ajattelu, logiikka, kauneus ja hyvyys on tavoiteltavia asioita.

Quote from: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/TabuTabu on jonkin pyhäksi tai vahingolliseksi katsotun tekemistä tai mainitsemista koskeva uskonnollinen tai uskomuksellinen kielto tai sen kohde. Sana tabu tulee tongan kielestä ja tarkoittaa 'pyhää', 'kiellettyä'.

2. Toisaalta sanojen tuhoaminen oli se mistä Orwell meitä varoitti. Jos sanaa ei saa käyttää, eikö se silloin ole tuhottu? Mitä enemmän sanoja tuhotaan, sitä vaikeampaa meidän viestiä toisillemme ja tai edes ajatella itse selkeästi, ja yhdistyä hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan.

Quote from: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/553001-it-s-a-beautiful-thing-the-destruction-of-words-of-course"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. "
― George Orwell

3. Lisäksi koko totuuden jälkeinen stalinistien, maolaisten ja anarkistien käyttämä postmoderni, hevonpaskajargonia pursuava kielenkäyttöä tähtää siihen, että kansa ei voi yhdistyä hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan, koska kansalaiset eivät ymmärrä toisiaan, tai edes itseään, saati sitten johtajiensa todellisia tarkoitusperiä.

4. Samaan tähtää myös sanojen merkitysten laajentaminen niin paljon, että yksi sana voi tarkoittaa ihan vastakkaisia asioita, kuten "demokratia", "tasa-arvo" ja "liberaali". Mitä enemmän sanojen merkityksiä tuhotaan laajentamalla niitä, sitä vaikeampaa meidän viestiä toisillemme, tai edes ajatella itse selkeästi.

Ja yhdistyä hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan.

5. Tämä on ikivanha teema, ainakin yhtä vanha Vanhan Testamentin kertomus Baabelin tornista, jonka rakentajat kurkottivat liian korkealle, josta syystä sikäläinen jumalapomo sekoitti kansojen kielet.

6. Samaa teemaa jatkoi Machiavelli teoksessaan Ruhtinas (Prince), jossa Ruhtinaan tärkein tehtävä oli estää kansaa yhdistymää hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan mm. sotkemalla heidän kielensä.

7. Nigger!-kielto, postmoderni kielenkäyttö, sanojen merkityksen laajentaminen ja Orwellin kaksoispuhe eivät ole yksittäistapauksia vaan kaikki samaa jatkumoa: ihmisten ajattelu- ja kommunikointivälineen tuhoamista.

Näin kansa polarisoidaan eri blokkeihin, jotta siitä ei olisi haittaa hallitsevalle kansainväliselle eliitille.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2021, 16:33:21
Quote from: ikuturso on 22.11.2021, 15:45:26
Mietitäänpä muita yhteiskunnassa syrjittyjä: Näkö- ja kuulovammaiset, jotka eivät pääse kaikkiin palveluihin. Liikuntavammaiset, MS-, ALS-, CP-ihmiset, Down-syndroomaiset, halvaantuneet, ... ryhmiä on monta. Heillä on tässä yhteiskunnassa todellisia ongelmia saada kaikki palvelut ja kyetä osallistumaan yhteiskunnan pyörittämiseen sen täysivaltaisena jäsenenä.

Ja vieläpä niin, olen Mikko Paunion puheista ymmärtänyt, mamuille tuhlatut resurssit ovat pois aidosti vammaisten resursseista, eli ne ovat siis ovat jossain määrin samalla momentilla. Eli mitä enemmän yhteiskunta neegerö1 neggere|tä, sitä yhteiskunta syrjii aidosti avun tarpeessa olevia.

Antakaa tämän ajatuksen upota tajuntaanne: pyhitetty olkoon n_i_gg_3_r_I, aidosti vammaiset kärsiköön!  >:( :facepalm: :flowerhat:
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 22.11.2021, 16:37:12
Ei näytä n-sana olevan täysin tabu Yleisradiossa:

https://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2008/06/12/m-numminen-jazztunnelmassa

QuoteOrkesterin ohjelmistoon kuului myös Glenn Millerin swingejä sekä "saksalaista neekerijatsia" edustava Olen nähnyt Helga-neidin kylvyssä. Asianmukaisen arvokkaasti esitetty kappale oli 1970-luvulla Nummisen suurimpia hittejä.

Onko muuten Mauri Anteroa painostettu pyytämään anteeksi aikaisempaa kielenkäyttöään?  Tai ehkä kulttuurista omimistaan?

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._A._Numminen_p%C3%A5_svenska_%E2%80%93_%C3%84kta_finsk_negerjazz_p%C3%A5_svenska
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 22.11.2021, 18:25:33
Quote from: Roope on 22.11.2021, 13:23:58
Quote from: RP on 22.11.2021, 11:23:07
Quote from: Roope on 22.11.2021, 02:16:27
Niin Yle, Sannikka kuin Valtaojakin myötäilivät haastamisen sijasta.

Katsoimmekohan samaa ohjelmaa? Toki Valtaoja joitakin kertoja yritti kainosti yrittää löytää yhteistä pohjaa, mutta ei hän perusteeseistään luopunut.

En siis ole katsonut ollenkaan vaan lukenut kuvauksia ja Ylen, Sannikan ja Valtaojan myöhempiä kommentteja.
Sannikasta voisi muutakin sanoa, mutta Valtaojan myöhemmät julkiset kommentit kai rajoittuvat näihin:
QuoteKeskustelu tv:ssä oli todella kiivas. Mitä tapahtui, kun kamerat menivät pois päältä?

– En halua eritellä, vaikka hän kuinka minun kimppuuni hyökkäsi siellä. Aika loukkaavasti, eikä ainoastaan minua, vaan isoa kansanosaa, muun muassa kaikkia Nenäpäivään osallistuneita kohtaan. En halua pahentaa enää tilannetta ja kertoa, mitä hän sen jälkeen teki. Voit kysyä sitä vaikka Marja Sannikalta.

Eli keskustelu jatkui vielä kameroiden ulkopuolella?

– Sanotaan, että hänen keskustelunsa jatkui.

Kertoisitko vielä, miksi käytit lähetyksessä n-sanaa?

– Minusta on ihan naurettavaa, että tämä on nostettu tässä asiaksi, koska itse asiahan oli aivan muu. Yritin esittää mahdollisimman ymmärrettävällä tavalla sen, että ei kyse ole vain sanoista, vaan teoista. Jos sanoja käyttää aggressiivisesti, niin se on aivan eri asia kuin se, että vaikkapa vanhassa lastenkirjassa tai Mika Waltarin Sinuhe egyptiläisessä käytetään tätä sanaa.

– Jos keskustelukumppanina on ihminen, joka tästä kokee itsensä uhatuksi, niin minusta keskustelua on mahdotonta viedä järkeville raiteille.


Olisiko sinun jälkikäteen ajateltuna pitänyt pyytää anteeksi n-sanan käyttöä, jos Ebrahimi koki sen loukkaavaksi?

– Koen hyvin selkeästi, että hän ei edes halunnut ymmärtää oikein. Se on tämän woke-kulttuurin selkeä puoli, että jos käytetään jotain sanaa, joka ei ole poliittisesti korrekti, niin automaattisesti painetaan nappulaa ja suututaan.

– Minä en ole ikinä käyttänyt tuota sanaa toiselle ihmiselle osoitettuna. Jos olisin tehnyt niin, minulla olisi todellakin anteeksipyynnön paikka. En ole kuitenkaan ikinä tehnyt niin, kuten ei kukaan tolkun ihminen enää vuosikymmeniin.
https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008420796.html

Se itse ohjelmankin voisi kyllä katsoa; sivun pohjaosassa.
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12195118
Jos haluaa säästää aikaa, voi aloittaa katselun 13:10 kohdalta. Oleellisin tulee noin minuutissa, mutta jos haluaa Valtaojan myöhemmätkin repliikit kuulla suoraan hevosen suusta, niin sitten voi jatkaa loppuun.
(Olen toisaalla esittänyt aika negatiivisia kommentteja videolinkien tarjoamisesta, mutta tässä se keskustelu ON se uutinen ja en ole ainakaan tietoinen myöskään transkriptin olemassaolosta.)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: VesaH on 22.11.2021, 19:32:09
Löytyy täältä: https://areena.yle.fi/1-51013756

Eniten huomiota herättänyt kohta oli se, jossa Valtaoja puhui neekeri-sanasta ja Ebrahim pillastui: "Tämä on ihan superjärkyttävää, että olen tällaisessa tilassa, missä valkoinen ihminen ruskean ihmisen vieressä kaksi kertaa käyttää n-sanaa ihan tahallaan."

Valtaoja yritti selittää, että sana ei ollut haukkumasana silloin kun Astrid Lindgren kirjoitti Peppi Pitkätossu -kirjat. Hän myös vertasi cancel-kulttuuria 1970-luvun taistolaisuuteen.

Haluaisin kirjoittaa vähän paremman referaatin keskustelunavaukseksi, mutta olen samaa mieltä kuin Esko Valtaoja keskustelun loppupuolella: en ymmärtänyt enää siinä vaiheessa mitään siitä mitä Ibrahim yritti sanoa.

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Tässä kerrotaan, että tapaus oli niin vakava, että sekä ohjelman tuottaja että Sannikka itse pyysivät Ibrahimilta anteeksi ja toimittaja Sannikka neuvoi, kehen kannattaa olla yhteydessä Yleltä, jos hän tarvitsee keskusteluapua pahaan oloonsa.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/29f145f0-84de-4fc8-bf69-e1b2a35a5902

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Tässä yritetään vähän avata, mistä oli kysymys. Sanna Ukkolan mielestä woke-ideologia on uusvasemmistolainen suuntaus ja se on äärimmäisen haitallinen vapausaatteelle. Sen tärkeä opinkappale on intersektionaalisuus.

Intersektionaalisuus tai intersektionaalinen feminismi puolestaan perustuu marxilaiseen Standpoint-teoriaan, jonka mukaan sorretun luokan näkökulma on puolueettomampi ja todenmukaisempi kuin muiden. Hän pitää näitä aatteita totalitaristisina ja äärimmäisen vaarallisina, kyseessä on käytännössä käänteinen rasismi.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/fe4a5e8d-ebff-48c0-8c2f-1a5ff50003ca

Ibrahimin mukaan on selkeästi todistettu, että mitään käänteistä rasismia ei ole olemassa ollenkaan. Näin hän sanoi tuossa keskustelussa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lyijy on 22.11.2021, 20:00:11
Ihmettelinkin että eikö tälle ole ketjua.

Oli kyllä niin rasisti tuo Ebrahim. Ei pystynyt mihinkään järkevään keskusteluun vaan pelkästään jakaa ihmisiä oletusten ja ihonvärien perusteella  :facepalm:

On tuo woke-kulttuuri kyllä aikamoista. Toivottavasti tuo avaa ihmisten silmiä...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Friedrich81 on 22.11.2021, 20:27:28
Quote from: Lyijy on 22.11.2021, 20:00:11
Ihmettelinkin että eikö tälle ole ketjua.

Oli kyllä niin rasisti tuo Ebrahim. Ei pystynyt mihinkään järkevään keskusteluun vaan pelkästään jakaa ihmisiä oletusten ja ihonvärien perusteella  :facepalm:

On tuo woke-kulttuuri kyllä aikamoista. Toivottavasti tuo avaa ihmisten silmiä...

Saksalaisilla on vanha sanonta, joka liittyy Valtaojan vs. Ebrahimin tapaukseen: joskus parasta olisi kävellä pois. Valtaoja vs Ebrahimin tapaus on juuri tällainen tilanne, että kaikkein parasta on olla ottamatta kantaa. Itse pidän tuota keskustelua täysin turhana ja aivan liian yksinkertaisena.

Valtaojan suurin virhe on siinä, että hänen on todella vaikea ymmärtää miten nopeasti maailma on muuttunut ja mistä syystä yritämme kuopata menneisyyttä niin syvälle kuin vaan pystymme. Hän on oikeassa, neekeri ei ollut haukkumasana eikä sen perimmäinen synonyymi (mustien luokittelu yhteen kategoriaan) ollut myöskään laiton, mutta mitä Valtaoja ei kykene ymmärtämään on se, että ei suomalaistenkaan luokittelu Ruotsin kiinalaisiksi ja mongoleiksi ollut siihen aikaan haukkumasana tai laiton. Sekä modernin woke-kulttuurin että modernin cancel-kulttuurin motiivit ovat alunperin 60-luvun Yhdysvalloista. Siihen aikaan rasismi, syrjintä ja ylimielisyys oli niin tapissa kuin voit vaan kuvitella. Suomalaisiakin luokiteltiin Ruotsin kiinalaisiksi, opportunisteiksi ja jopa mongoleiksi niin usein ja niin raasti, että suomalaiset joutuivat semmosta ilmapiiriä hyväksyvien ihmisten polttoaineeksi: suomalaiset joutuivat siirtymään englannin kielen puhumiskulttuuriin, luopumaan hiljattain suomenkielestä, ja nimeämään lapset ei-suomalaisilla nimillä. Valtaoja ei kykene näkemään miten vaikutusvaltaisia ja motivoituneita nämä cancel- ja woke-kulttuurin harjoittajat ovat.

Ebrahim on taas feministipuvussa kävelevä vasemmistolainen kurdinationalisti (minun mielestäni), joka jaksaa ajaa vasemmiston ja oman kansansa etuja erilaisilla pyörillä (feminismi, humanismi, anti-fasismi jne.). Kyllähän minullekin kelpaisi kahden ja puolen tonnin palkkaa siitä, että menen toisen kansan valtiokanavaan uhriutumaan ja jakamaan puolueeni ja kansani etujen mukaisia arvoja ja propagandaa.

Ebrahim on ennen kaikkea vasemmistolainen ja koskaan ei kannatta vähätellä vasemmistolaisten korkkiruuvin pyöreä kieroutta. Epäile aina viisi kerrosta alaspäin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 20:41:59
Ivan Puopolo on somettanut asian tiimoilta, kirjoittanut Verkkouutisiin sekä haastatellut toista kurdia podcastissaan. 23 minuuttia-podcastin Arto Koskelo laittoi twiittiketjun wokesta.
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Ivan Puopolon kolumni: Tätä on woke
VERKKOUUTISET | 21.11.2021 | 12:00- päivitetty 21.11.2021 | 18:55
Kannattaa painaa retorisesti vähän lisää kaasua ja puhua suoraan kiilusilmien uuslahkosta, toimittaja Ivan Puopolo kirjoittaa.
https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/ivan-puopolon-kolumni-tata-on-woke/#17a93e01

Suomenkurdi Esko Valtaojan n-sanakohusta: "Lopettakaa meidän puolestamme loukkaantuminen!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB0vafUf6x0

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: insinörtti on 22.11.2021, 20:57:14
Jos niitä n-sanoja on tykitetty Pasilan linkkitornista lähes sata kappaletta Re-nazin dj-keikan yhteydessä, niin eikö silloin tämä perähikiäkin ole sillee tosi turvaton ja epäsensitiivinen tila? Radioaallot kun tunkevat tännekin, halusipa niitä tai ei. Ainakin linja-autossa tai marketissa on voinut altistua, mikäli on sattunut YleX olemaan päällä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 22.11.2021, 21:41:42
Quote from: räsänen on 21.11.2021, 17:45:33
... Minulle tuli myös mieleen Iiris Suomela jolla on samanlainen, äärimmäisen agressiivinen tapa esittää asioita. Hän latelee älyttömyyksiä liukuhihnalta niin että vasta-argumentoijalla on vaikeuksia saada mistään kiinni.

Aiemmin tuollaisia sanottiin räpätädeiksi. Heidän tyylinsä oli hyökkäävä ja aggressiivinen. Tavoitteena oli vaientaa vastapuoli konekivääriäkin nopeammin papattavalla sanatulvalla. Niillä sanoilla ei niin ollut väliä. Tärkeintä oli alistaa ja vaientaa vastapuoli. Sille ei annettu suunvuoroa. Hyvä karikatyyri tästä ihmislajista oli Pekka Puupää elokuvien Manta. Nämä olivat usein tanakoita ja vanhemmansorttisia. Nykyään nämä räpätädit näyttävät olevan yhä nuorempia ja nimityksenkin sanotaan olevan "intersektionaalinen feministi". Pohjimmiltaan ei kuitenkaan mitään uutta auringon alla. Vanhat ja jo hyvin tunnetut ilmiöt pannaan vain uusiin paketteihin ja päälle kirjoitetaan uusi nimi. Happanemisprosessi alkaa tosin heti ja ei aikaakaan kun huomataan ja tunnistetaan, että "intersektionaalinen feministi" olikin pesunkestävä marksilainen räpätäti, jolla Pekka Puupään Mantan konstit: Kädet puuskassa ja kaulin valmiina heilahtamaan. Ei sellaisen kanssa mistään keskustella, sillä silloin ollaan jouduttu korkeimman tuomarin ja todellisuuden punnitsijan eteen, joka on vielä ennakkoon tarkistanut Tikkurilan värikartasta minkä sortin hyypiö hänen eteensä on päätynyt.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 22.11.2021, 21:57:44
Quote from: VesaH on 22.11.2021, 19:32:09
Löytyy täältä: https://areena.yle.fi/1-51013756

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Ibrahimin mukaan on selkeästi todistettu, että mitään käänteistä rasismia ei ole olemassa ollenkaan. Näin hän sanoi tuossa keskustelussa.

Niinpä niin, "todistettupa" hyvinkin. Üllatus, että viiteryhmä, johon Renaz Ebrahim samastuu eli neekerit, ei voi tehdä rasistisesti motivoituneita tekoja vaaleaihoisia kohtaan. Hänen järkensä on feminismi, monikulturismi, cancel, awoke jne. sumentanut, kuten pahimmillaan ideologiat kaappaavat seuraajansa orjikseen.

Yksiselitteisesti valkoisia kohtaa suunnattuja ja rotumotivoituneita tekoja on pilvin pimein. Viimeisimpiä on tämänpäiväinen joukkomurha Yhdysvalloissa, Wisconsinin osavaltiossa, jossa Black Power -henkilö pyrki osoittamaan mustaa voimaa vaaleaihoisia teinityttöjä kohtaan lanaamalla (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3367834.html#msg3367834) heidät kuoliaiksi autollaan.

Rikosta ei siis tapahtunut, eikä black supremacy -ideologiaa ole olemassa, hänen todellisuudessaan, vaan valkoihoiset tytöt saivat, mitä ansaitsivat, koska ovat rasistisen viiteryhmänsä edustajia. Tekisi mieleni todeta Lallin tavoin, että hänen paikkansa ei ole Suomessa vaan Iranissa. Siellä hänellä ei ole Iranin lain mukaan oikeutta liikkua kodin ulkopuolella ilman päähuivia, mikä toki on vain yksi naisten elämää hallitseva laki. Saattaisi ihana cancel, feminismi jne. kohdistua vaikka johonkin muuhun kuin länsimaalaisiin "rasisteihin", kuten islamilaiseen lainsäädäntöön. Tai sitten ei.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 22.11.2021, 21:59:32
Tarjoan Ylelle ja muille mokuttaja-organisaatioille ihan maksuttoman tiedonannon:

Ebrahimin chimp-out Ylen ohjelmassa on vain viimeisin esimerkki pitkästä haittamamujen aiheuttamien nolojen episodien jatkumosta (ks. Homman Crash and Burn ketju https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,124098.0.html (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,124098.0.html)). Voisitte tästä nyt vihdoin ottaa opiksenne sen että pelkkä maahanmuuttajuus, vähemmistö-status tai trendikkään woke-termistön vakuuttavankuuloinen resitointi ei automaattisesti pätevöitä ihmistä miksikään asiantuntijaksi tai muutenkaan esiintymiskelpoiseksi. Jos rimaa pitää liian matalalla, on lisää samanlaisia spektaakkeleita odotettavissa, mikä ei kyllä ole reilua näille tyhjästä yli-itsevarmoille moku-toteemeillekaan. Eivätkä nämä esiintymiskelvottomat räyhääjät varmasti ainakaan vähennä rasistisia asenteita.

Nyt salainen paljastus...

Rumpujenpärinää...

Maahanmuuttajien ja vähemmistöön kuuluvien asiantuntijuutta ja ammattitaitoakin VOI arvioida samoilla kriteereillä kuin kantaväestöä olematta rasisti (f*c* equity). Se jopa kannattaa jos haluaa välttää tyhjän takia hehkuttamiensa kultamunien paljastumisen mätämuniksi.

Yle, nyt ryhtiä ja opiksi siellä, olette vähintään sen velkaa meille jotka teitä rahoitamme!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: koojii on 22.11.2021, 22:11:03
Quote from: duc on 22.11.2021, 21:57:44

Niinpä niin, "todistettupa" hyvinkin. Üllatus, että viiteryhmä, johon Renaz Ebrahim samastuu eli neekerit, ei voi tehdä rasistisesti motivoituneita tekoja vaaleaihoisia kohtaan. Hänen järkensä on feminismi, monikulturismi, cancel, awoke jne. sumentanut, kuten pahimmillaan ideologiat kaappaavat seuraajansa orjikseen.

Mitä itselläni on valkoisia ystäviä ja tuttavia eri maissa, niin esimerkiksi Yhdysvalloissa ja Rio de Janeirossa on alueita joille maassa asuvien valkonaamojen ei parane mennä ainakaan tiettyinä kellonaikoina, jos oma henkikulta on rakas tai ole hinkua tulla ryöstetyksi ja pieksetyksi.

En tiedä mitä se sitten on jos ei rasisismia kun valkoinen piestään henkihieveriin tai otetaan hengiltä pelkästään ihonvärin vuoksi, jos erehtyy tiettyihin rodollistettujen alueille menemään. Ehkä joku Critical Social Justice teoriaa paremmin tunteva voisi kertoa mikä on heidän mielestään oikea termi tuollaiselle?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Maastamuuttaja on 22.11.2021, 22:21:27
Paljon melua tyhjästä. Maailmassa ei todellakaan ole yhtään nihmistä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Phantasticum on 22.11.2021, 22:32:02
Quote from: koojii on 22.11.2021, 01:58:08
En yhtään edes epäile sitä että Renaz Ebrahimi edustaisi woke-feminismi hulluudessaan lainkaan sitä kaikista äärimmäistä tasoa vaan eiköhän siellä laidassa löydy vielä jotain vielä paljon radikaalimpaa hihhulia joka vaatii kiihkossaan jotain Lopullista ratkaisua (saks. Endlösung), jolla valkoiseen rotuun kuuluvat uunitetaan kaikki ja jäljelle jäävät miesoletetut kaikki kastroidaan perinteisellä tyylillä.

Olen jäänyt odottamaan hetkeä, jolloin ruskeat riitaantuvat keskenään siitä, kuka kelpaa oikeaksi ruskeaksi. Tähän ei tarvita kuin muutama ruskeampi, joka kyseenalaistaa vähemmän ruskeiden identiteetin ruskeana. Sen jälkeen Renaz joutuu nousemaan omassa uhripositiossaan pykälän ylemmäs. Afrikassa Renaz olisi valkoinen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tavan on 22.11.2021, 22:43:30
Minua väsyttää tämä liberaalien ainainen huolestuminen wokesta. Woke on liberalismia, oikein väkevää liberalismia, voitaisiin ehkä hieman paradoksaalisesti sanoa autoritääristä liberalismia. Siis sisällöltään liberaalia mutta menetelmiltään autoritääristä.

Liberalismiin kuuluu erinäisten tiukkojen ja sitovien yhteiskunnallisten kategorioiden ja rajalinjojen ensin loiventaminen ja sitten poistaminen (historiallisesti esimerkiksi luokkayhteiskunnan ja tiukan säätyjaon vastustaminen, rotujaottelun vastustaminen, sukupuolten välisten rajojen poistaminen ja erojen tasaaminen, kansallisuuskäsityksen liudentaminen ei-poissulkevaksi, e.g. "avoin suomalaisuus"...), ja wokessa on kyse tismalleen samasta yleistavoitteesta ainoastaan lihaksikkaammin keinoin.

Ja sosialistit eivät ole liberaalien vihollinen. Esimerkiksi Espanjan sisällissodassa liberaalit muodostivat lujan koalition kommarien ja sosialistien kanssa ns. kunnollisia ihmisiä (=nationalisteja, taantumuksellisia, kristittyjä) vastaan. Ovat jopa valmiita mieluummin häviämään sodan sosialistien kumppanina kuin voittamaan sen kämyjen kumppanina. Liberaalien veri on moneen otteeseen punnittu.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ajatolloh on 22.11.2021, 22:54:07
Kohta 17:50 https://areena.yle.fi/1-50667789

Tämä neiti Ebrahim määrittelee aika 'mielenkiintoisesti' tai sanoisinko 'luovasti' termin 'cancel kulttuuri'.

Hänen mielestään cancel kulttuuri on jotain ihmeellistä "vastuunottokulttuuria", "uskoa toiseen ihmisenä", "lempeästi otan yhteyttä" jne pälä pälä.

Se mitä minä olen cancel kulttuurista pannut merkille asioita, niin kyllä siinä pyritään enempikin vahingoittamaan toista ihmistä niin paljon kuin vain kyetään. Soitellaan asiakkaille, kilpailijoille, työpaikalle, häiriköidään ja pyritään canceloimaan, mitätöimään, exterminoimaankin toinen ihminen jos vain pystytään. Jos vain voisivat, niin nämä cancel kulttuuri ebrahimit varmasti pistäisivät uunitkin käyntiin 40-luvun malliin. Kaikki vaikuttaa olevan sallittua, munille potkimista ja maassa jo makaavan potkimista myöten tässä ihanassa cäncelöinti kulttuurissa.

Enempi tuo cäncelöinti kuulostaa minusta erään herra Maon "kulttuurilta". Oikein kulttuurivallankumoukselta.

Kiinnitikö kukaan muu huomiota neiti Ebrahimin outoon väännökseen känsel kulttuuristaan?

Muutenkin tämä neiti tuntuu selittävän pää märkänä selittävän kaikenlaista mutta eikös tämä itsekin ole nenäpäiväillyt jne?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Penan kaveri Eki on 22.11.2021, 23:04:30
Quote from: Ajatolloh on 22.11.2021, 22:54:07
Enempi tuo cäncelöinti kuulostaa minusta erään herra Maon "kulttuurilta". Oikein kulttuurivallankumoukselta.

Nikolai Yezhov cäncelöitiin Stalinin toimesta kirjaimellisesti (nikkeliä takaraivoon). Oli kertomusten mukaan luonnevikainen sadistipuppeli. Mene ja tiedä, mutta sai syyt niskoilleen.

https://www.history.com/news/josef-stalin-great-purge-photo-retouching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Yezhov
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 23:24:14
Quote from: Ajatolloh on 22.11.2021, 22:54:07
Kohta 17:50 https://areena.yle.fi/1-50667789

Tämä neiti Ebrahim määrittelee aika 'mielenkiintoisesti' tai sanoisinko 'luovasti' termin 'cancel kulttuuri'.

Hänen mielestään cancel kulttuuri on jotain ihmeellistä "vastuunottokulttuuria", "uskoa toiseen ihmisenä", "lempeästi otan yhteyttä" jne pälä pälä.

Se mitä minä olen cancel kulttuurista pannut merkille asioita, niin kyllä siinä pyritään enempikin vahingoittamaan toista ihmistä niin paljon kuin vain kyetään. Soitellaan asiakkaille, kilpailijoille, työpaikalle, häiriköidään ja pyritään canceloimaan, mitätöimään, exterminoimaankin toinen ihminen jos vain pystytään. Jos vain voisivat, niin nämä cancel kulttuuri ebrahimit varmasti pistäisivät uunitkin käyntiin 40-luvun malliin. Kaikki vaikuttaa olevan sallittua, munille potkimista ja maassa jo makaavan potkimista myöten tässä ihanassa cäncelöinti kulttuurissa.

Enempi tuo cäncelöinti kuulostaa minusta erään herra Maon "kulttuurilta". Oikein kulttuurivallankumoukselta.

Kiinnitikö kukaan muu huomiota neiti Ebrahimin outoon väännökseen känsel kulttuuristaan?

Muutenkin tämä neiti tuntuu selittävän pää märkänä selittävän kaikenlaista mutta eikös tämä itsekin ole nenäpäiväillyt jne?

Woke ja cancelointi muistuttavat Stalinin Neuvostoliittoa ja Maon Kiinaa. Niissä on yhtymäkohtia ja analogioita kuten vaatimukset irtisanotumisista, anteeksipyyynöistä, työpaikan menetyksistä. Silloin vaadittiin kaikkea vanhaa tuhottavaksi, sekä henkisesti että fyysisesti, lapset laitettiin nöyryyttämään vanhempiaan, koululaiset laitettiin nöyryyttämään opettajia jne.

Nykysysteemin ero Neuvostoliittoon ja Maon Kiinaan on siinä että se on "pehmeä" eli siinä ei tuomita vankileireille eikä tuomita kuolemaan. Tehokkaammin "tapetaan" siten että viedään toimeentulo, maine ja sosiaaliset suhteet.

Quote from: Phantasticum on 22.11.2021, 22:32:02
Quote from: koojii on 22.11.2021, 01:58:08
En yhtään edes epäile sitä että Renaz Ebrahimi edustaisi woke-feminismi hulluudessaan lainkaan sitä kaikista äärimmäistä tasoa vaan eiköhän siellä laidassa löydy vielä jotain vielä paljon radikaalimpaa hihhulia joka vaatii kiihkossaan jotain Lopullista ratkaisua (saks. Endlösung), jolla valkoiseen rotuun kuuluvat uunitetaan kaikki ja jäljelle jäävät miesoletetut kaikki kastroidaan perinteisellä tyylillä.

Olen jäänyt odottamaan hetkeä, jolloin ruskeat riitaantuvat keskenään siitä, kuka kelpaa oikeaksi ruskeaksi. Tähän ei tarvita kuin muutama ruskeampi, joka kyseenalaistaa vähemmän ruskeiden identiteetin ruskeana. Sen jälkeen Renaz joutuu nousemaan omassa uhripositiossaan pykälän ylemmäs. Afrikassa Renaz olisi valkoinen.
Tuo on intersektionaalisen feminismin ja woken looginen päätepiste. Aina on joku joka on sorretumpi kuin toinen. Tiina Wiik sanoi jollain omalla striimillä että somen feministit ja muut suvakit ovat koko ajan varuillaan siitä onko itse tarpeeksi oikeaoppinen feministi ja suvakki. Heillä on täysi työ pysyä ajan tasallla siitä mikä on hyväksyttyä ja oikeaoppista. Jos ei pysy ajan tasalla, on riski että sanoo tietämättään jotain mikä aiheuttaa maalittamisen ja canceloinnin omien taholta. Tiinan mukaan ei ole ihme jos somen feministit ja suvakit muuttuvat paranoideiksi ja mielenterveysongelmia ilmenee.

Se joka tänään nauttii uhristatuksesta, onkin huomenna sortaja. Intersektionaalinen uhrihierarkia on perverssi, kun mitä huonommin jollakin menee, sitä korkeampi uhristatus sillä on. Pitäisi olla kaikki nämä ominaisuudet jotta pääsisi tosi ylös hierarkiassa: nainen, lesbo, musta, muslimi, kehopositiivinen, mielenterveysongelmainen. Mitä muuta vielä? Esim. joku fyysinen vamma kuten synnynnäinen tai tapaturmaisesti tullut vamma ruumiissa? Entä jos on jotain mielikuvitusjuttuja eli kuvittelee olevansa se kuuluisa yksisarvinen, joten nostaisiko se vielä hissiä ylös?
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Quote from: Tavan on 22.11.2021, 22:43:30
Minua väsyttää tämä liberaalien ainainen huolestuminen wokesta. Woke on liberalismia, oikein väkevää liberalismia, voitaisiin ehkä hieman paradoksaalisesti sanoa autoritääristä liberalismia. Siis sisällöltään liberaalia mutta menetelmiltään autoritääristä.

Liberalismiin kuuluu erinäisten tiukkojen ja sitovien yhteiskunnallisten kategorioiden ja rajalinjojen ensin loiventaminen ja sitten poistaminen (historiallisesti esimerkiksi luokkayhteiskunnan ja tiukan säätyjaon vastustaminen, rotujaottelun vastustaminen, sukupuolten välisten rajojen poistaminen ja erojen tasaaminen, kansallisuuskäsityksen liudentaminen ei-poissulkevaksi, e.g. "avoin suomalaisuus"...), ja wokessa on kyse tismalleen samasta yleistavoitteesta ainoastaan lihaksikkaammin keinoin.

Ja sosialistit eivät ole liberaalien vihollinen. Esimerkiksi Espanjan sisällissodassa liberaalit muodostivat lujan koalition kommarien ja sosialistien kanssa ns. kunnollisia ihmisiä (=nationalisteja, taantumuksellisia, kristittyjä) vastaan. Ovat jopa valmiita mieluummin häviämään sodan sosialistien kumppanina kuin voittamaan sen kämyjen kumppanina. Liberaalien veri on moneen otteeseen punnittu.

Se on jokin jenkkitermi käyttää vasemmistolaisista sanaa "liberaali".

Klassisella liberaaleilla ja kommunistiella oli ajallinen ero siinä kun vastustivat sen ajan yhteiskuntia. Klassiset liberaalit olivat joskus 1700-luvulla. Kommunismista tai sosialismista alettiin puhua 1800-luvun puolivälin aikoihin. Klassiset liberaalit eivät tainneet kannattaa sosialismia tai kommunismia, eivätkä sosialistit ja kommunistit kannattaneet laissez-faire-näkemystä markkinavoimien suhteen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ajatolloh on 22.11.2021, 23:27:54
Quote from: Penan kaveri Eki on 22.11.2021, 23:04:30
Quote from: Ajatolloh on 22.11.2021, 22:54:07
Enempi tuo cäncelöinti kuulostaa minusta erään herra Maon "kulttuurilta". Oikein kulttuurivallankumoukselta.

Nikolai Yezhov cäncelöitiin Stalinin toimesta kirjaimellisesti (nikkeliä takaraivoon). Oli kertomusten mukaan luonnevikainen sadistipuppeli. Mene ja tiedä, mutta sai syyt niskoilleen.

https://www.history.com/news/josef-stalin-great-purge-photo-retouching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Yezhov

Postauksesi votoshopattuine 30 luvun kuvineen toikin mieleeni, että missä viipyy 2020 luvun photoshop-cäncelöinti?

Ehdotan, että Esko Valtaoja poistetaan digitaalisin keinoin kaikista filmeistä ja valokuvista ja korvataan ruskealla uhri-ihmisellä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 22.11.2021, 23:31:07
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 23:16:52
Woke ja cancelointi muistuttavat Stalinin Neuvostoliittoa ja Maon Kiinaa. Niissä on yhtymäkohtia ja analogioita kuten vaatimukset irtisanotumisista, anteeksipyyynöistä, työpaikan menetyksistä. Silloin vaadittiin kaikkea vanhaa tuhottavaksi, sekä henkisesti että fyysisesti, lapset laitettiin nöyryyttämään vanhempiaan, koululaiset laitettiin nöyryyttämään opettajia jne.

Nykysysteemin ero Neuvostoliittoon ja Maon Kiinaan on siinä että se on "pehmeä" eli siinä ei tuomita vankileireille eikä tuomita kuolemaan. Tehokkaammin "tapetaan" siten että viedään toimeentulo, maine ja sosiaaliset suhteet.

Quote from: Phantasticum on 22.11.2021, 22:32:02
Olen jäänyt odottamaan hetkeä, jolloin ruskeat riitaantuvat keskenään siitä, kuka kelpaa oikeaksi ruskeaksi. Tähän ei tarvita kuin muutama ruskeampi, joka kyseenalaistaa vähemmän ruskeiden identiteetin ruskeana. Sen jälkeen Renaz joutuu nousemaan omassa uhripositiossaan pykälän ylemmäs. Afrikassa Renaz olisi valkoinen.
Tuo on intersektionaalisen feminismin ja woken looginen päätepiste. Aina on joku joka on sorretumpi kuin toinen. Tiina Wiik sanoi jollain omalla striimillä että somen feministit ja muut suvakit ovat koko ajan varuillaan siitä onko itse tarpeeksi oikeaoppinen feministi ja suvakki. Heillä on täysi työ pysyä ajan tasallla siitä mikä on hyväksyttyä ja oikeaoppista. Jos ei pysy ajan tasalla, on riski että sanoo tietämättään jotain mikä aiheuttaa maalittamisen ja canceloinnin omien taholta. Tiinan mukaan ei ole ihme jos somen feministit ja suvakit muuttuvat paranoideiksi ja mielenterveysongelmia ilmenee.

Se joka tänään nauttii uhristatuksesta, onkin huomenna sortaja. Intersektionaalinen uhrihierarkia on perverssi, kun mitä huonommin jollakin menee, sitä korkeampi uhristatus sillä on. Pitäisi olla kaikki nämä ominaisuudet jotta pääsisi tosi ylös hierarkiassa: nainen, lesbo, musta, muslimi, kehopositiivinen, mielenterveysongelmainen. Mitä muuta vielä? Esim. joku fyysinen vamma kuten synnynnäinen tai tapaturmaisesti tullut vamma ruumiissa? Entä jos on jotain mielikuvitusjuttuja eli kuvittelee olevansa se kuuluisa yksisarvinen, joten nostaisiko se vielä hissiä ylös?

Woke on pieni Neuvostoliitto demokraattisen valtion sisällä. Neuvostoliitossa saatoit yhdessä yössä muuttua porvarilliseksi, taantumukselliseksi puolueen viholliseksi joka tuli likvidoida yhteisen sosialistisen hyvän päämäärän nimissä, jos joku päätti että olet uhka ja ajattelet väärin. Woke toistaa samaa kaavaa, jolloin järki jää alisteiseksi oikeaoppisuudella nokittelulle.

Neuvostoliitto kaatui omaan mahdottomuuteensa kun resurssit eivät riittäneet kilpailemaan kylmän sodan kilpavarustelussa länttä vastaan. Huolestuttavaa on se että woke ei kaadu resurssien puutteeseen, koska se elää parasiittina läntisten demokratioiden sisällä, jotka mielisairaina vieläpä ruokkivat lapamadolle mitä se vain vaatii.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bronx Zoo on 22.11.2021, 23:34:00
Koko homma vaikuttaa vääristyneeltä äitiysvietiltä. Kun ei ole omia poikasia, niin sitten omitaan huollettavaksi mitä tahansa. Ja pienimmästä orvosta lähdetään ja siitä pidetään eniten huolta joka on kaikista surkein tapaus.

Ja kun alku on näin traumaattinen, niin sitten se tyyppi joka luonnollisesti puolustaisi pentujaan kuin leijona, puolustaakin jotain aivan muuta kuin omaansa. Hyeenoita.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ludicrous on 22.11.2021, 23:38:49
Täältä ei löydy sympatiaa Valtaojalle. Hän oli itse ruokkimassa ja paijjaamassa tätä hyveimmistön lemmikkihyeenaa, kun se oli vasta pieni pörröinen pentu. Varmasti ajan kuluessa Esko on monta kertaa ihaillut peilistä kuinka hyvä ja moraalinen ihminen sieltä katsookaan takaisin. No nyt pieni hyeenanpentu on kasvanut isoksi, merkkaa reviiriään hieromalla haisevaa persettään ja hyökkää opportunisisesti ilman mitään lojaalisuuden tajua. Mahtoi tulla Valtaojalle yllätyksenä, kun vähän näykkäsi ruokkivaa kättä. Ei ehkä tajunnut, että kyseessä on ideologia, jota ei voi kesyttää, vaan se kuuluu monien muiden jatkoksi kaatopaikalle.

Harmillisesti en saa tästä tapauksesta revittyä edes hieman vahingoniloa näinä synkkinä aikoina. Kyllä päällimmäinen tunne on ihan pelkkä surullisuus. Valtaoja on pitkässä listassa erinomaisia esimerkkejä siitä, kuinka kapea-alaista ihmisen älykkyys ja oppineisuus voikaan olla. Pistää aina vähän miettimään, kuinka isoja on omat sokeat pisteet ja kuinka valtavia ne oikein ovat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 23:46:01
Quote from: Vellamo on 22.11.2021, 23:34:33

On tuota jo nähty; pakolaistaustainen Seida Sohrabi kirjoitti totuuden woke-hömpötyksestä ja sai kuulla olevansa whitepassing:
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Onkohan noilla woke-kieltä horisevilla mitään oikeaa osaamista tai elämää, vai pyöriikö arki lähinnä sanojen kyttäämisen, vauhkoontumisen ja ihmisten eriarvoistamisen ympärillä?

Seida Sohrabi on muuten kurdi, oliko Irakin kurdialueelta.

Noille intersektionaaleille ja wokstereille pitäisi aina sanoa että "älä puhu wokea/intersektionaalisuutta/kulttuurimarxilaisuutta vaan puhu suomea". Ne suoltavat noita ulkoa opeteltuja termejään ja hokemiaan liukuhihnalta, joten ne pitäisi pakottaa niistä pois, jotta ne poistuisivat omalta mukavuusalueeltaan. Mitä he olisivat ilman noita termejä ja hokemia?

Tuo vasurisomppu voisi mennä somaliaan ja alkaa wokettamaan siellä. Miten ne klaanit mahtaisivat tuumia siitä?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 22.11.2021, 23:47:48
Quote from: Vellamo on 22.11.2021, 23:34:33
Onkohan noilla woke-kieltä horisevilla mitään oikeaa osaamista tai elämää, vai pyöriikö arki lähinnä sanojen kyttäämisen, vauhkoontumisen ja ihmisten eriarvoistamisen ympärillä?

Ei niillä ole mitään oikeaa osaamista, siksi he ovat wokeja. Wokeilu ei vaadi muuta kuin ulkoa opeteltua liturgiaa ja kykyä pöyristyä uskottavan dramaattisesti. Hokemien heittely ja oikein kytätyssä välissä pöyristely on ainoa setti jolla he pystyvät saavuttamaan onnistumisen tunteita.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 23.11.2021, 00:06:02
En kopsannut koko viestin sisältämää rupeamaa,Vellamo, koska näytteet ovat yllä luettavissa.

QuoteOnkohan noilla woke-kieltä horisevilla mitään oikeaa osaamista tai elämää, vai pyöriikö arki lähinnä sanojen kyttäämisen, vauhkoontumisen ja ihmisten eriarvoistamisen ympärillä?
Sama on mieli, alan hieman putoamaan kieseistä wokeilmiön suhteen, millä perusteella vaikkapa minulle tullaan sanomaan ne sanat joita en saa käyttää..onko kyseessä jonkinlainen yhteisön aikaan saama painostus?,,omalla kohdallani ei käy syyksi.
Vai onko minun sanalliseen rajoituksiin liittyvä ,,,joku näennäinen korrektisuus syynä vastaan; ei ole, niin kauan kun itseni stilisoimat kirjoitelmat menevät läpi sen ajatusmyllyn, jossa voin todeta, että edelliseen kirjoitukseeni ei liity mitään, tai ketään loukkaavaa.

Koko woketus on mennyt hysterian puolelle, kaikki julkisesti julkaisuja tekevät pelkäävät, jos kyseenalaistat jotain, niin muutaman kymmenen henkilön wokesakki hyökkää kimppuun,,kuten Valtaojalle on käynyt.
Jos joskus tulevaisuudessa otan terävän askeleen eteenpäin ja tulen julkiseksi henkilöksi, niin uskallan sanoa sanan neekeri, sanan oikeassa asiayhteydessä.



Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.11.2021, 00:06:34
Tämän pitäisi laittaa huomaamaan että metapolitiikkaa ja kulttuurivaikuttamista ei pidä laiminlyödä. Intersektionaalinen feminismi, woke ja CRT ovat metapolitiikkaa ja kulttuurisodan muotoja.

Andrew Breitbart sanoi että "politics is downstream from culture" eli politiikka on kulttuurin alajuoksu. Se mitä tapahtuu kulttuurissa, tapahtuu myöhemmin politiikassa. Tästä voi päätellä että jos haluaa vaikuttaa politiikassa, pitää ensin vaikuttaa kulttuurissa.

Se joka kontrolloi kulttuuria, pystyy sanelemaan narratiivin. Prosessi kulkee siten että ensin kulttuuri-ikoni muokkaa kulttuuria, sen jälkeen kulttuuri määrittää yleisen diskurssin, seuraavaksi diskurssi ohjaa poltiikkaa, ja lopulta politiikka vaikuttaa lainsäädäntöön ja lopulta laki on astunut voimaan ja sitä toteutetaan. Politiikka itsessään vaikuttaa hyvin vähän mihinkään joten politiikka on vain yhteiskunnallisten ilmiöiden virallinen ilmenemismuoto.

Kulttuurimarxilaisten toiminta on alusta asti perustunut kulttuuriin eli heidän heidän vaikutus tapahtuu metapolitiikassa. He eivät ole saavuttaneet asemiaan vaaleilla eivätkä aseilla. He huomasivat että heillä ei ole kovin kummoista kannatusta vaaleissa. He eivät myöskään ole sen luonteista porukkaa että ryhtyisivät aseelliseen toimintaan. He eivät ole tarvinneet parlamenttipaikkoja, ministerinsalkkuja eikä presidentinvirkoja. He eivät ole tarvinneet myöskään aseellisia punakaarteja.

Sen sijaan heillä on pitkään ollut hallussaan valtamedia, yliopistot, julkishallinto, tuomioistuinlaitos, syyttäjälaitos, kulttuuri-instituutiot ja kulttuurielämä, laitoskirkko, monet yhdistykset ja järjestöt. Vaikutus on ulottunut myös poliisiin ja asevoimiin. Suosittu vaikuttamistapa on ulkoparlamentaarinen toiminta, kommunistikielellä "joukkovoima". Siinä on tarjolla eri toimintatapoja sisältäen mielenosoitukset, mellakat, häirintä, ilkivalta, sabotaasi ja väkivalta, jne. Toinen tapa on etsiä ja paljastaa henkilötiedot, osoitetiedot, työpaikkatiedot ja tämän jälkeen uhata toimeentulon menetyksellä. Tässä painostetaan työnantajaa antamaan henkilölle potkut, usein julkisuuden kautta. Jos uhkauksen kohteena on yritys, niin silloin järjestetään julkisuustemppuja kuten boikottikampanjoita. Tälle on se nimitys cancel-kulttuuri.

Miten on mahdollista että kansalaisaloite homolain säätämistä varten keräsi lyhyessä ajassa 150000 allekirjoitusta, ja eduskunta sääti lain aloitteen pohjalta? Tätä ei olisi voinut tapahtua ilman usean vuosikymmenen mittaista metapoliittista vaikutamista.

Miten on mahdollista että mielipiteen ilmaisun vapautta on rajoitettu pitkän aja kuluessa? Tätä ei olisi tapahtunut jos ei pitkän ajan kuluessa syyttäjälaitokseen ja tuomioistuinlaitokseen nimitettäisi tietyntyyppisiä syyttäjiä ja tuomareita. Suomen tapauksessa kyse on Demokraattiset lakimiehet eli DEMLA-järjestöstä. Demlan jäsenistö vaikuttaa tuomioistuimissa, syyttäjänvirastoissa, yliopistojen oikeustieteellisissä tiedekunnissa, oikeusministeriössä, sisäministeriössä, muualla julkishallinnon virkakunnassa sekä yhdistystoiminnassa. Syyttäjät ja tuomarit on koulutettu lakimiehiksi oikeustieteellisissä tiedekunnissa. Ketkä tutkivat ja opettavat oikeustieteellisissä tiedekunnissa? Ketkä päättävät mitä opetetaan ja mitä tutkitaan?

Miten on mahdollista että jokin vuosi sitten kommunistien katutappeluosasto onnistui häirisemään ja estämään Hampurin yliopiston taloustieteen professorin luennot? Voisiko joku kuvitella tilannetta toisinpäin? Siis sellaista tilannetta jossa maahanmuuttokriittiset menisivät suurin joukoin häiriköimään vaikka Oula Silvennoisen luentoja ja vaatimaan luennon peruuttamista ja henkilön erottamista virastaan? Tuota se tarkoittaisi jos pelattaisiin samoilla aseilla kuin vastapuoli.

Herää kysymys ovatko konservatiivit/traditionalistit/vanhoilliset ja kansallismieliset sekä oikeistolaiset laiminlyöneet kulttuurin eli metapoliittisen vaikuttamisen aiempina vuosikymmeninä? Jos ovat, niin miksi?  Kun Antonio Gramsci puhui kulttuurihegemonian tavoitelusta kommunistien käsiin, niin eivätkö konservatiivit ja kansallismieliset huomanneet tuota? Ei Gramsci ollut tuppisuu vaan hänen näkemykset ja tavoitteet sai selville jos seurasi kommunistien toimintaa puoluemateriaaleista, puoluelehdistä ja heidän kirjoistaan. Eivätkö konservatiivit/oikeistolaiset/kansallismieliset huomanneet sanontaa "pitkä marssi läpi instituutioiden"? Eivätkö konservatiivit ja kansallismieliset ole huomenneet että sananvapauden suojaksi tarvittaisiin samanlainen perustuslaillinen suoja kuin on Yhdysvaltain perustuslain ensimmäinen lisäys. Oman hengen puolustamiseen tarvittaisiin samanlainen kuin Yhdysvaltain perustuslain toinen lisäys.

Hatusta vedetty arvio on siinä että konservativit/traditionalistit/vanhoilliset ja kansallismieliset sekä oikeistolaiset ovat tuijottaneet liiaksi pelkkiä vaalituloksia ja varsinaista politiikkaa, julkista taloutta ja elinkeinoelämää ja näin kuvitelleet että niitä kautta asiat pysyvät halutunlaisina. Oikeistolaiset ovat tujottaneet vain sitä että saavat hankittua rahaa itselleen ja se on tärkempää kuin konservatismi, traditionalismi, isänmaallisuus ja kansallismielisyys. Onko niin että oikeistolaiset ovat luopuneet konservatismista, traditionalismista, isänmaallisuudesta ja kansallismielisyydestä jos näin turvaa rahan saannin? Tässä ajattelumallissa kaikella on hinta ja millään ei ole arvoa. Tällaisesa ajattelussa myydään vaikka isoäiti jos joku maksaa. Tällaisessa ajattelussa ollaan valmiita kannattamaan sharia-lakia jos se ei haittaa monikansallisten yritysten kannattavuutta ja omaa rahantuloa. Tässä ajattelussa ollaan valmiita intersektionalismin ja woken ohjaamaan politiikkaan jos se ei heikennä monikansallisten yritysten kannattavuutta ja omaa rahan tuloa. Onko tämä se syy miksi oikeisto on vasemmistolaistunut? Marko Hamilo mietti tätä jokin vuosi sitten Suomen Uutisten jutussaan.

Konservatiiviset/traditionaaliset/vanhoilliset kristityt ovat usein ajatelleet että politiikka on syntiä eikä siihen pidä osallistua. Kristityt ovat olleet vain omissa oloissaan ja juuttuneet omalle mukavuusalueelleen tai eivät ole olleet hereillä asioiden suhteen. He eivät ole älynneet tai uskaltaneet lähteä ulos puolustamaan omia arvojaan silläkin uhalla että pitäisi toimia vihamielisissä oloissa jossa muut ovat vastapuolella. He eivät olleet hereillä eivätkä aktivoineet yleistä mielipidettä esim. homoavioliittoa vastaan.

Toinen arvio, sekin hatusta vedetty, on se että konservatiiveja/traditionalisteja/vanhoillisia, isänmaallisia, kansallismielisiä ja oikeistolaisia on ohjannut väärä käsitys tapojen noudattamisesta. He ovat luulleet että kaikki noudattavat hyviä tapoja ja että pelataan aina samoilla aseilla vastustajasta riippumatta. Konservatiivit/traditionalistit/vanhoilliset, isänmaalliset, kansallismieliset ja oikeistolaiset ovat hirttäytyneet omiin sääntöihin, kunniakoodeihin ja moraalikoodeihin eivätkä ole halunneet "alentua vastustajan tasolle". Kannattaako olla herrasmies ja hirttäytyä sääntöihin, kunniakoodeihin ja moraalikoodeihin, jos vastustaja ei ole herrasmies eikä sillä ole mitään pidäkkeitä vaan se on häikäilemätön ja keinoja kaihtamaton? Sellainen sanonta on että herrasmies tietää milloin ei olla enää herrasmies. Joskus ainoa toimiva ratkaisu on alentua vastustajan tasolle ja alkaa sen kanssa mutapainiin.

Tähän liittyen sopii myös muutama Heikki Luodon suomentama juttu:

https://sarastuslehti.com/2017/02/12/kuinka-vasemmisto-voitti-kylman-sodan/

https://www.kansalainen.fi/bartholomew-koulutus-selittaa-liberaalieliitin-idiotismin/

https://www.kansalainen.fi/buchanan-liberaali-demokratia-uhanalainen-laji/

https://blogit.kansalainen.fi/raymond-raehn-lev-trotski-barack-obama-ja-mustat-vallankumouksen-etujoukkona/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 00:18:54
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 23:24:14
Aina on joku joka on sorretumpi kuin toinen. Tiina Wiik sanoi jollain omalla striimillä että somen feministit ja muut suvakit ovat koko ajan varuillaan siitä onko itse tarpeeksi oikeaoppinen feministi ja suvakki.

Ongelmahan sorretummuudessa on se, että mitään uhripriorisointia ei ole eikä tulee, koska uhristatukset ja niiden yhdistelmät pitäisi laittaa numerojärjestykseen! Ei voida siis voida tietää kuka numero #1, koska numerot, matematiikka, logiikka ja selkeät säännöt ovat iso no-no-no wokettajille. Näin ollen koko wokekultti on sisäisesti yhtä anarkistista kaaosta, dog eat dog* -maailmaa, jossa vallankumous lopulta taas lopulta syö lapsensa. Joku siellä huipulla harjoittaa mielivaltaa ja ihmisharvennustilastotiedettä kunnes saa hakun otsaansa, ja seuraava jatkaa sitten siitä.

Edellisestä seuraa, että nuivien turha yrittää päästä uhrikategorian huipulle keksimällä mitä mielikuvituksellisempia valeita itsestään, kuten wokettajat tekevät.

* dog-eat-dog
Used to describe a situation in which people will do anything to be successful, even if what they do harms other people.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 00:33:13
Liitteinä varmuuskopiot Puolon ja Koskelon kirjoituksista (samassa failissa), koska ne ovat arvokasta ja selkeäsanaista materiaalia, jollaiset pyrkivät katoamaan netistä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Phantasticum on 23.11.2021, 00:50:15
Quote from: Phantasticum on 22.11.2021, 22:32:02
Olen jäänyt odottamaan hetkeä, jolloin ruskeat riitaantuvat keskenään siitä, kuka kelpaa oikeaksi ruskeaksi. Tähän ei tarvita kuin muutama ruskeampi, joka kyseenalaistaa vähemmän ruskeiden identiteetin ruskeana. Sen jälkeen Renaz joutuu nousemaan omassa uhripositiossaan pykälän ylemmäs. Afrikassa Renaz olisi valkoinen.

Quote from: Vellamo on 22.11.2021, 23:34:33
Intersektionaalisuus näyttää kyntensä: Vasemmistonuorten puheenjohtaja Liban Sheikh listaa syitä sille, miksi pakolaistaustaisen Seida Sohrabin pitäisi sulkea suunsa

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/vasemmistonuorten-puheenjohtaja-liban-sheikh-paljastui-harskiksi-etnosovinistiksi-vaatii-pakolaistaustaista-seida-sohrabia-sulkemaan-suunsa-koska-taman-ihonvari-ei-ole-tarpeeksi-tumma/

Aivan. Seida Sohrabi ei ole koskaan kelvannutkaan ruskeaksi, vaikka Ebrahimi ja Sohrabi ovat ulkoisin kriteerein mitattuna molemmat yhtä valkoisia (eivät edes ruskeita). Molemmat ovat kurdeja. Annetaan puheenvuoro Ebrahimille.

QuoteEbrahimi kertoo olevansa järkyttynyt kommenteista, että hän olisi samalla tavalla valkoinen kuin Valtaoja.

– Tuo on todella loukkaavaa. Tämä on juuri sitä, että minun ruskeuttani kyseenalaistetaan, Ebrahimi kertoo.

– Tätä on tapahtunut tosi usein, kun puhun itsestäni ruskeana ihmisenä ja rodullistettuna. Ja tämä on usein se kommentti: "ethän sinä ole edes ruskea". Samaan aikaan olen koko elämäni joutunut kokemaan rasismia ihonvärini ja erilaisuuteni takia, sen takia, etten näytä samalta kuin valkoinen kantasuomalainen.

Ebrahimi kertoo, että vastaavanlaisilla kommenteilla yritetään saada Ebrahimin kokemuksilta ja kommenteilta arvoa pois.

– Saan kuulla ihan järkyttäviä juttuja ja se on todella loukkaavaa. Tämä on ongelman ydin, että korkeasti koulutettu ihminen koittaa minimoida rasismin kokemuksiani kyseenalaistamalla mun ruskeutta, jotta saisivat paremmin oman agendansa läpi, Ebrahimi kertoo.

– Ja kun minä tai me puhutaan ruskeudesta tai mustuudesta, niin se on niin paljon enemmän kuin kirjaimellisesti se ihon väri. Se on siitä valkoisesta normista poikkeavaa etnisyyttä: kieli, kulttuuri, uskonto, nimi ja rodullistetuksi tullut keho.

IL: Ylen keskusteluohjelma kärjistyi pahasti: Esko Valtaoja käytti n-sanaa kahdesti, toimittajalle turvaton olo (https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/7bdb5a91-b7a1-49dd-9e74-7556031a720a)

Jossain vaiheessa Ebrahimin oma ruske(t)us ei enää riitä uhriposition ylläpitämiseen, kun paljon ruskeammat ja sorretummat vievät hänen paikkansa. Elämä on.

Mutta noin muuten sanoisin, että on valitettavaa, kun tällaista joutuu sietämään omassa maassaan. Ebrahimi on Suomessa ainoastaan ja vain suomalaisten hyväntahtoisuuden ansiosta. Hän olisi paljon arvokkaampi, jos hän menisi takaisin tiedostamaan sinne mistä tulikin ja parantaisi maailmaa siellä. Plussana olisi, että siellä ei poikkeaisi valkoisesta normista eikä tulisi rodullistetuksi. Illaksi kotiin. Finnairilla.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivinator on 23.11.2021, 01:07:15
Nyt on sakeaa.

QuoteRasmus ry:

Viime vuosina antirasismi on saanut paljon tuoretta panosta eri tahoilta. Laajana kattojärjestönä suhtaudumme myönteisesti kaikkiin vakaviin rasismia vastustaviiin ääniin, ja mielestämme yhtäkään näistä äänistä ei pitäisi ola sävysävyvalvonta.

Haluamme löytää keinoja yhdistää ponnistelumme ja totuettaa merkiktyksellistä muutosta.

Haluamme näin ollen korkostaa, että vapaaehtoinen toiminnanjohtajamme Ossi Mäntylahden Facebookin ja Instagramin kautta 21. marraskuuta 2021 esittämät näkemykset eivät edustaneet Rasmus ry:n kantaa.

Näin ollen olemme vapauttaneet Ossin vapaaehtoisen toiminnanjohtajan tehtävistä odottaessa muodollista tilaisuutta tulla kuulluksi ja lopullista ratkaisua tästä ikävästä jaksosta.
(Löytääkö joku tälle alkuperäistä lähdettä. Minä en löytänyt)

Liitteessä on mitä ilmeisimmin Ossin viestistä otettuja screenshotteja.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 23.11.2021, 01:11:11
Jossain vaiheessa Ebrahimin oma ruske(t)us ei enää riitä uhriposition ylläpitämiseen, kun paljon ruskeammat ja sorretummat vievät hänen paikkansa. Elämä on.

Mitä jos laitan must..siis pata ässän näille wokeilijoille..tunnen olevani ihonväriltäni ainakin näin musta (kts. kuva)..minua mustempaa ei voi kai olla, saanko pojoja haulipussiin woketyypeiltä,,ihonvärihän perustuu tuntemukseen..mitä mustempaa sitä korkeampi olet uhristatuksella..nyt pääsen todella korkealle.

QuoteVantablack on mustan sävy, jonka sanotaan olevan maailman tummin. Se imee itseensä 99,965 prosenttia valosta. Taidemaailmassa kuitenkin ärähdeltiin vihaisesti sen jälkeen, kun taiteilija Anish Kapoor hankki maailman mustimman musta oikeuden itselleen.31.3.2017
..lainaus (Wikipedia/mtv)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 23.11.2021, 01:30:54
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 01:22:04
Quote from: Nuivinator on 23.11.2021, 01:07:15
Nyt on sakeaa.

Woke on sakeaa, eikä suma selviä puhumalla, vaan se vain pahentaa asiaa.

Voisiko olla, että rasmus on tullut "keijotetuksi", tai Ossi on havahtunut nykyisyyteen?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 06:58:31
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 23:24:14

Se on jokin jenkkitermi käyttää vasemmistolaisista sanaa "liberaali".

Klassisella liberaaleilla ja kommunistiella oli ajallinen ero siinä kun vastustivat sen ajan yhteiskuntia. Klassiset liberaalit olivat joskus 1700-luvulla. Kommunismista tai sosialismista alettiin puhua 1800-luvun puolivälin aikoihin. Klassiset liberaalit eivät tainneet kannattaa sosialismia tai kommunismia, eivätkä sosialistit ja kommunistit kannattaneet laissez-faire-näkemystä markkinavoimien suhteen.

Liberaalit ovat vasemmistolaisia Ranskan vallankumouksen kehyksessä. Olivat ja ovat se alkuperäinen vasemmisto, olivat sitä jo ennen kuin Marxista oli kuultukaan. Esimerkiksi Englannissa Whigit (= liberaali, progressiivinen puolue) korvautuivat hyvin sulavasti Labour puolueella kun aika oli kypsä ja poliittiset käyttövoimat sopivassa asennossa. Uusi brändi, pohjimmiltaan samaa paskaa.

Aivan ensimmäisenä meidän tulisi tunnistaa mistä ongelmat johtuvat. Nykymaailmaa riuduttaa paljon enemmän joku John Stuart Millin progressiivinen, liberaali, antikristillinen ajattelu kuin Marxin marxilainen ajattelu.

"Society should treat all equally well who have deserved equally well of it, that is, who have deserved equally well absolutely. This is the highest abstract standard of social and distributive justice; towards which all institutions, and the efforts of all virtuous citizens should be made in the utmost degree to converge."
—John Stuart Mill, Utilitarianism, 1861
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 23.11.2021, 08:49:20
Quote from: Nuivinator on 23.11.2021, 01:07:15
Nyt on sakeaa.

Tässä mäntylahden twiittailua asian tiimoilta:

[tweet]1462558943708917765[/tweet]
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kemolitor on 23.11.2021, 09:26:12
Quote from: Nuivinator on 23.11.2021, 01:07:15
Liitteessä on mitä ilmeisimmin Ossin viestistä otettuja screenshotteja.

Sama teksti, joka on noissa liitteissä löytyy hänen Uuden Suomen blogikirjoituksestaan 22.11.2021 1:41:
Ossi Mäntylahti: Renaz Ebrahimin uhrivaltapositio (PÄIVITETTY) (https://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/ossimantylahti/renaz-ebrahimin-uhrivaltapositio/)

Tuohon tekstiin on tullut sitten päivitys  23.11.2021 0:14
Quote
(PÄIVITYS 23.11.2021) Rasmus ry:n hallitus on päättänyt terminoida allekirjoittaneen toiminnanjohtajuuden tämän kirjoituksen perusteella. Tämä on tapahtunut allekirjoittamatta kuulematta, mutta eipä tälle hirveästi tarvetta ole. En jää itkemään tapahtunutta. Ja seison jokaisen kirjoittamani sanan takana kuten aina ennenkin. Quod scripsi, scripsi.
Sen verran asiasta on hyvä kertoa julkisesti, että toiminnanjohtaja rinnastuu toimitusjohtajaan. Ei ole mitään jäähdyttelyaikaa. Asia siis astuu voimaan välittömästi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Charlie on 23.11.2021, 09:27:43
Sinänsä Mäntylahti kirjoittelee suurelta osin fiksuja, mutta henkilönä ei ansaitse mitään sympatiaa. Kärsi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ajatolloh on 23.11.2021, 09:57:53
Pierre Vernigaud oli yksi Ranskan suuren vallankumouksen johtajista. Hänen kerrotaan sanoneen matkalla giljotiiniin (siis tällä kertaa itse mestattavaksi, ei koneen käyttäjäksi):

Quote"Kansalaiset, on syytä pelätä, että vallankumous, kuten Saturnus, ahmii peräjälkeen kaikki lapsensa ja synnyttää lopuksi despotismin siitä seuraavine kauheuksineen"

Tuosta on syntynyt sanonta "vallankumous syö lapsensa".


Mäntylahden tapauksen johdosta lienee syytä päivittää sanontaa nykypäivään:

Cancel-kulttuuri canceloi lopulta canceloijansakin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 23.11.2021, 10:04:22
"Lopullinen ratkaisu" mainittu!"  :o

Vilkaiskaapas tuo viimeinen rivi Ossin canselointi-ilmoituksesta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 23.11.2021, 10:08:24
Quote from: Charlie on 23.11.2021, 09:27:43
Sinänsä Mäntylahti kirjoittelee suurelta osin fiksuja, mutta henkilönä ei ansaitse mitään sympatiaa. Kärsi.

No ajatusmaailma  ja toiminta voinee kehittya. Karsimysta ei kannata toivoa pelkan karsimyksen vuoksi kenellekaan. Ja osalle Rasmukseen itsensa asemoineille voi syntya ihan omia ajatuksia. Ihan win win.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.11.2021, 11:21:13
Quote from: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 06:58:31
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 22.11.2021, 23:24:14

Se on jokin jenkkitermi käyttää vasemmistolaisista sanaa "liberaali".

Klassisella liberaaleilla ja kommunistiella oli ajallinen ero siinä kun vastustivat sen ajan yhteiskuntia. Klassiset liberaalit olivat joskus 1700-luvulla. Kommunismista tai sosialismista alettiin puhua 1800-luvun puolivälin aikoihin. Klassiset liberaalit eivät tainneet kannattaa sosialismia tai kommunismia, eivätkä sosialistit ja kommunistit kannattaneet laissez-faire-näkemystä markkinavoimien suhteen.

Liberaalit ovat vasemmistolaisia Ranskan vallankumouksen kehyksessä. Olivat ja ovat se alkuperäinen vasemmisto, olivat sitä jo ennen kuin Marxista oli kuultukaan. Esimerkiksi Englannissa Whigit (= liberaali, progressiivinen puolue) korvautuivat hyvin sulavasti Labour puolueella kun aika oli kypsä ja poliittiset käyttövoimat sopivassa asennossa. Uusi brändi, pohjimmiltaan samaa paskaa.

Aivan ensimmäisenä meidän tulisi tunnistaa mistä ongelmat johtuvat. Nykymaailmaa riuduttaa paljon enemmän joku John Stuart Millin progressiivinen, liberaali, antikristillinen ajattelu kuin Marxin marxilainen ajattelu.

"Society should treat all equally well who have deserved equally well of it, that is, who have deserved equally well absolutely. This is the highest abstract standard of social and distributive justice; towards which all institutions, and the efforts of all virtuous citizens should be made in the utmost degree to converge."
—John Stuart Mill, Utilitarianism, 1861

Ranskan vallankumouksen aikaisen kansalliskokouksen istuntosalissa "vasemmisto" ja "oikeisto" olivat puolueita jotka oli sijoitettu puhemiehen paikalta katsottuna vasemmalle ja oikealle. Tästä se oikeisto-vasemmisto-jako on varmaan ihan ekana saanut alkunsa.

Quote from: Ajatolloh on 23.11.2021, 09:57:53
Pierre Vernigaud oli yksi Ranskan suuren vallankumouksen johtajista. Hänen kerrotaan sanoneen matkalla giljotiiniin (siis tällä kertaa itse mestattavaksi, ei koneen käyttäjäksi):

Quote"Kansalaiset, on syytä pelätä, että vallankumous, kuten Saturnus, ahmii peräjälkeen kaikki lapsensa ja synnyttää lopuksi despotismin siitä seuraavine kauheuksineen"

Tuosta on syntynyt sanonta "vallankumous syö lapsensa".


Mäntylahden tapauksen johdosta lienee syytä päivittää sanontaa nykypäivään:

Cancel-kulttuuri canceloi lopulta canceloijansakin.
Vallankumous syö lapsensa taitaa olla varhaisin toteamus cancel-kulttuurista. Sitä vaan kutsuttiin silloin eri nimellä mutta siinä on sama kaava.

Ensin on joku jäbä päässy kukoksi tunkion huipulle. Huipulla voi vallan tunteesta humaltuneena jakaa mestaustuomioita joita sitten toimeenpannan kolmivuorotyönä. Mutta kun jäbä tipahtaa pois tunkiolta, kohta saa itse tuomion ja on jonossa laittamaan päätään pölkylle.

Siinä on ohjelmoituna jokin itsetuhomekanismi. Jos täällä on nörttejä, ne osaavat varmaan löytää analogioita tietokoneiden ohjelmistojen toimintaan.

Quote from: Charlie on 23.11.2021, 09:27:43
Sinänsä Mäntylahti kirjoittelee suurelta osin fiksuja, mutta henkilönä ei ansaitse mitään sympatiaa. Kärsi.
Tähän käy Pulttiboisin toteamus: kikkelis kokkelis, mitäs läksit, niin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 12:49:47
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 23.11.2021, 11:21:13
Ensin on joku jäbä päässy kukoksi tunkion huipulle. Huipulla voi vallan tunteesta humaltuneena jakaa mestaustuomioita joita sitten toimeenpannan kolmivuorotyönä. Mutta kun jäbä tipahtaa pois tunkiolta, kohta saa itse tuomion ja on jonossa laittamaan päätään pölkylle.

Siinä on ohjelmoituna jokin itsetuhomekanismi.

Spekuloin, että internationaaliseen maailmanvallankumoukseen on (viimeistään jo ennen Euroopan hullua vuotta 1848) aina ollut ohjelmoituna sen johdon todellista identiteettiä suojeleva tuhomekanismi, jossa operatiivinen johto tarvittaessa tuhotaan, jos siitä tulee liian vaarallinen tai itsenäinen ("loose cannon"), tavalla tai toisella. (Esimerkiksi Stalin luopui Trotskin ajamasta kansainvälisestä kommunismista ja siirtyi sosialismiin yhdessä maassa, eli siis kansallissosialismiin. Eli siis alkoi vääräoppiseksi, mutta siinä vaiheessa hän oli jo liian vahvasti vallankahvassa kiinni, jotta hänet olisi voitu "photoshopata pois" valokuvista ja elämästä, kuten Nikolay Yezhoville, NKVD:n johtajalle, tehtiin.)

Jossain reilut sata vuotta sitten kirjoitetuissa kirjoissa (muistan vain, että niiden kirjoittaja oli nainen) esitettiin, että mitä ylemmäksi organisaatiossa vallankumoukselliset etenivät (Ranskan vallankumouksessa), sitä enemmän heille kävi selväksi ketkä ovat vallankumouksen näkymättömiä suunnittelijoita ja rahoittajia, ja siksi heidän piti poistaa kuvioista, ennenkuin alkavat aukoa päätään liikaa.

Näissä Euroopan vallankumouksissa myös palkattiin vankiloista roskaväen iskujoukkoja riehumaan kaduille "tyytyvättömänä kansana", ihan kuten nyt on palkattu tunnettuja rikollisia ja tuomittuja pedofiilejä tekemään samaa täsmälleen samaa.

On myös esitetty, Hommankin sivuilla, että samaa roskaväkeä kuljetetaan busseilla kaupungista toiseen riehumaan. Eli nämä kaduilla riehuvat wokesaastat ovat rikollisten hyvin mobilisoitu bliz krieg -armeija, joka on palkattu
- mellakoimaan kaduilla,
- aloittamaan ryöstely ja tappaman sivullisia ja poliiseja, sekä
- osoittamaan mieltään poliisien rahoittamisen lopettamisen puolesta.

Tämä on puhdasoppista sotaa järjestäytynyttä yhteiskuntaa vastaan, jonka takana on demokraattisen puolueen harmaita eminenssejä, jotka eivät ole luopuneet internationaalisen maailmanvallankumouksen utopistisesta ideaalistaan.

»Aave kummittelee Euroopassa – kommunismin aave.»
- https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommunistinen_manifesti, 1848

Nyt tuo aave on myös kummittelee voimallisesti myös USAn hallinnossa ja kaduilla.

Mutta kuten Rittenhousen vapauttava tuomio osoittaa, kommunismin toisen ison aallon aave on valtavirtaa vain valtamediassa ja osassa hallintoa, mutta vain marginaalista tavallisten peruskansalaisten keskuskuudessa, kaikissa länsimaissa. Siksi tämäkin maailmanvallankumous tulee lopulta epäonnistumaan. Siitä on jo nähty merkkejä Suomessakin, jossa Valtaojan tapaus nosti wokehulluuden kaikkien nähtäväksi ja keskusteltavaksi.

Siispä: lisää wokehulluutta parhaaseen katseluaikaan, YLE!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 15:24:02
Nyt löytyi sanasto, jossa woke-termejä on käännetty ymmärettävään muotoon:

Translations from the Wokish
A Plain-Language Encyclopedia of Social Justice Terminology
https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/

Ensin kerrotan termin merkitys aitoihin woke-lähteisiin perustuen (Social Justice Usage), ja sen selitys/kommentointia selkoenglanniksi (New Discourses Commentary).

Tämä on pitkä sanakirja raskasta luettavaa, ja täynnä ristiinviittauksia. Laitan tähän vain yhden yhden esimerkin, joka sekin on aika pitkä.  :P.  [hakasuluissa omia merkintöjäni.] Käännös ei ehkä ole ihan tarkka.

"Valkoisen yhteistyökumppanin pitää olla tarpeeksi woke tajutakseen, että hänestä ei koskaan voi tulla woke. [!!!] ... Valkoisen pitää pyrkiä woke-tilaan rakentamalla wokeaan yhdessä värillisten kanssa. Valkoisen pitää siis olla jatkuvassa oppimisen tilassa ja tarpeeksi woke ymmärtääkseen, että ei koskaan voi olla tarpeeksi woke."

Tuota ilosanomaa pitääkin levittää maamme wanna-be-wokettajille: mikään woketus ja itsekriittisyys ei koskaan ole tarpeeksi. Valkoiselle ei myöskään riitä, että tajuaa woken kaikkivoipaisuuden, sitä pitää levittää jatkuvasti, tauotta, kaikkialle missä ikinä sattuukin olemaan. Valkoisen pitää olla woke-kultin evankelista, kunnes rasistinen länsimainen järjestelmä on tuhottu, ja korvattu kommunistisella totalitarismilla, jota kutsutaan "sosiaaliseksi oikeudenmukaisuudeksi".

Social Justice Usage

Source: Roy, Laura A. Teaching While White: Addressing the Intersections of Race and Immigration in the Classroom. Rowman & Littlefield: Lanham, MD, 2018, pp. 150–151.

The notion of "getting woke" (or staying woke) is defined as being acutely aware of racial and social injustice—not just awareness and acknowledgement of isolated incidents, but awareness from a position of understanding systemic and institutional racism. ... The notion of getting woke encapsulates the first stage of becoming an accomplice in addressing the system of racism... White accomplices should strive to be woke enough not to call themselves woke and instead strive to embody this state of being by building with people of color. ... Be in a perpetual state of learning and be woke enough to know you are never woke enough.

...

Source: Bunyasi, Tehama Lopez, and Candis Watts Smith. Stay Woke: A People's Guide to Making All Black Lives Matter. New York University Press, 2019, p. 12.

Just so we're all on the same page, we should mention that having knowledge about the facts of racism and the mechanisms that (re)produce racial inequality doesn't necessarily make someone "woke." There are many people who know the facts and use them to insist on anti-Black narratives and pursue public policy that enhance racial inequity. Knowledge is a necessary but not sufficient component of being anti-racist. You have to put your knowledge to use in order to eradicate the problems of racial injustice.

New Discourses Commentary

In brief, "woke" means having awakened to having a particular type of "critical consciousness," as these are understood within Critical Social Justice. To first approximation, being woke means viewing society through various critical lenses, as defined by various critical theories bent in service of an ideology most people currently call "Social Justice." That is, being woke means having taken on the worldview of Critical Social Justice, which sees the world only in terms of unjust power dynamics and the need to dismantle problematic systems. That is, it means having adopted Theory and the worldview it conceptualizes.

Under "wokeness," this awakened consciousness is set particularly with regard to issues of identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, and others. The terminology derives from the idea of having been awakened (or, "woke up") to an awareness of the allegedly systemic nature of racism, sexism, and other oppressive power dynamics and the true nature of privilege, domination, and marginalization in society and understanding the role in dominant discourses in producing and maintaining these structural forces. Furthermore, being woke carries the imperative to become a social activist with regard to these issues and problems, again, on the terms set by Critical Social Justice. This—especially for white people—is to include a lifelong commitment to an ongoing process of self-reflection, self-criticism, and (progressive) social activism in the name of Theory and Social Justice (see also, antiracism).

Historically, the term "woke" has been used somewhat extensively in slang throughout the twentieth century to refer to a state of awareness of the discrimination, disenfranchisement, and mistreatment of blacks, especially in America, and it is in that sense always had some connection to the critical mode of thought in the New Left. (See also, black liberation, liberation theology, false consciousness, and consciousness raising.) The term is alleged to have gained its first contemporary connotation in 2008 with the Erykah Badu song "Master Teacher," in which Badu envisions and dreams of a world of racial equality and then advises genuine activism with the admonishment that listeners should "stay woke." The term developed from there, particularly via black activism on Twitter.

The term then gained particular significance and tied itself to the contemporary Social Justice movement in the mid 2010s as it became an activist watchword of the Black Lives Matter movement. There, say following the police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, the phrase "stay woke" took on the very specific meaning of being aware of the reality (according to critical race Theory) of systemic racism in American society that activists blamed for being at the root of the incident. This has, in turn, led to the term being nearly synonymous with having a critical consciousness as provided through critical race Theory, although it has been appropriated through intersectional thought to apply to other issues of identity relevant to postcolonial Theory, queer Theory, feminism, and so on. It has since expanded and memefied further and is now seen from the outside as being wholly synonymous with having been converted to a Social Justice critical consciousness. As such, "wokeness" often refers to both critical Social Justice doctrine and the state of having accepted it.

In that "wokeness" has become a term directly associated with the critical consciousness provided by applied postmodern Theories, especially critical race Theory (see also, postmodern, Marxian, Neo-Marxism, Post-Marxism, and Cultural Marxism). As such, it is centrally concerned with being aware of the intersecting systems of racism, sexism, and other forms of alleged societal oppression and analyzing these in terms of privilege. This is most often done, under woke consciousness, by engaging in discourse analysis, especially using close reading, which enables racism (or other systemic bigotries) that are assumed to be present in all situations to then be read into them. This is then treated as proof of the systemic problem that was assumed to exist in the first place (see also, mask). Being "woke" would entail being able to "see" the intersecting web of dominance and oppression that arises from the function of privilege in society and taking up efforts to challenge, disrupt, subvert, deconstruct, or overthrow the existing system in the attempt to bring those unjust intersecting power dynamics to an end (see also, Matrix of Domination).
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Penan kaveri Eki on 23.11.2021, 15:41:40
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 15:24:02
Nyt löytyi sanasto, jossa woke-termejä on käännetty ymmärettävään muotoon:

Translations from the Wokish
A Plain-Language Encyclopedia of Social Justice Terminology
https://newdiscourses.com/translations-from-the-wokish/
...

Löytyy myös woke-uskonnon taksonomiajuliste:

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/taxonomy-of-woke-religion/

    https://boghossian.substack.com/api/v1/file/576e3d73-f131-43b7-8700-c553c05f390e.pdf

QuoteWe decided to publish the Woke Religion Taxonomy because it was helpful to our own understanding of Wokeism as a religion, and we felt it might help others. The Taxonomy identifies common myths and supernatural beliefs and helps explain why so many people continue to hold them, despite overwhelming evidence that they are false. We are under no illusion that the Taxonomy will reduce the power that Wokeism holds over true believers. But we also believe it will help orient those who are confused by its irrationalism, and are seeking an accessible overview.

Jos mietitte miksi taulukko on sateenkaarin väreissä, niin se on kopsattu Bloom's Taxonomy mallista, joka on jonkinlainen oppimismalli.

    https://cft.vanderbilt.edu/guides-sub-pages/blooms-taxonomy/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: FadeAway on 23.11.2021, 16:00:34
Yle lopettaa Sannikan ohjelman.
Viimeinen lähetys on 3.12.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Inca on 23.11.2021, 16:11:00
Quote from: FadeAway on 23.11.2021, 16:00:34
Yle lopettaa Sannikan ohjelman.
Viimeinen lähetys on 3.12.
Käräjille koko konkkaronkka kun noin suunnatonta rasismia ja natsismia nostaa framille. Haagiin vaan, sotarikos tuo on ja kiihottaminen kansanryhmää vastaan liki kansanmurha
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 23.11.2021, 16:24:23
QuoteRasismin­vastaisen katto­järjestön toiminnan­johtaja kritisoi "ruskea"-termin käyttöä – hallitus hyllytti


Rasismin ja muukalaispelon vastainen yhdistys Rasmus on vapauttanut toiminnanjohtaja Ossi Mäntylahden tehtävästään sen jälkeen, kun tämä otti sosiaalisessa mediassa kantaa Sannikka-ohjelmassa käytyyn keskusteluun.


Rasmus ry kertoo vapauttaneensa Ossi Mäntylahden toiminnanjohtajan tehtävistään.

Yhdistyksen mukaan Mäntylahden sosiaalisessa mediassa esittämät näkemykset eivät edusta Rasmuksen kantaa.
Rasmus ry on rasisminvastaisen työn kattojärjestö. Sen jäsenyhdistyksiä ovat yhdistyksen verkkosivujen mukaan muun muassa SAK, Monika-Naiset ja Ihmisoikeusliitto.

Mäntylahti otti omilla sosiaalisen median tileillään kantaa siihen, kuka voi määritellä itsensä vähemmistöön kuuluvaksi.

– Renaz Ebrahimin ja Esko Valtaojan välisen yhteenoton jälkeen minulle selvisi, että tämä "ruskea" onkin poliittinen termi ja tarkoittaa about kaikkia ei-etnisesti kantasuomalaisia pellavapäitä. Siis ainakin jos kysytään henkilöiltä itseltään, Mäntylahti kirjoitti osana pitkää kirjoitustaan.
– Eivät ihmiset voi itse määrittää itseään vapaasti mihinkään etniseen tai kulttuuriseen ryhmään, hän jatkoi.

Hän kommentoi myös sitä, kenellä on oikeus osallistua keskusteluun vähemmistöjen asemasta.

– Teidän mielipiteillenne tulee antaa tilaa ja niitä pitää kuunnella. Mutta aivan taatusti sama kuulemis- ja kommentointioikeus koskee myös minun ja Esko Valtaojan sanomisia.

Mäntylahti viittasi Sannikka-ohjelman perjantaina esitettyyn jaksoon, jossa toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimi ja Esko Valtaoja ajautuivat sanaharkkaan.

https://www.is.fi/uutiset/art-2000008425193.html

Seuraava uhri. Ei ne meinaa millään uskoa että vastaan ei saa sanoa. Kuinkahan monta päätä pitää vielä pudota että menee jakeluun?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Fiftari on 23.11.2021, 16:40:38
Ylellä damage control päällä. Ihana pakkomaksaa tuon budjetti  :facepalm:

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: anatall on 23.11.2021, 16:43:12
"Rasismin ja muukalaispelon vastainen yhdistys Rasmus on vapauttanut toiminnanjohtaja Ossi Mäntylahden tehtävästään sen jälkeen, kun tämä otti sosiaalisessa mediassa kantaa Sannikka-ohjelmassa käytyyn keskusteluun."


Vallankumous söi lapsensa kun Pekka huusi sutta ja metsä vastasi kuinka sinne huudettiin että katajaan kapsahti kun paska osui tuulettimeen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 23.11.2021, 16:50:41
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 12:49:47
Näissä Euroopan vallankumouksissa myös palkattiin vankiloista roskaväen iskujoukkoja riehumaan kaduille "tyytyvättömänä kansana", ihan kuten nyt on palkattu tunnettuja rikollisia ja tuomittuja pedofiilejä tekemään samaa täsmälleen samaa.

On myös esitetty, Hommankin sivuilla, että samaa roskaväkeä kuljetetaan busseilla kaupungista toiseen riehumaan. Eli nämä kaduilla riehuvat wokesaastat ovat rikollisten hyvin mobilisoitu bliz krieg -armeija, joka on palkattu
- mellakoimaan kaduilla,
- aloittamaan ryöstely ja tappaman sivullisia ja poliiseja, sekä
- osoittamaan mieltään poliisien rahoittamisen lopettamisen puolesta.

Tämä on puhdasoppista sotaa järjestäytynyttä yhteiskuntaa vastaan, jonka takana on demokraattisen puolueen harmaita eminenssejä, jotka eivät ole luopuneet internationaalisen maailmanvallankumouksen utopistisesta ideaalistaan.

Tätä kutsutaan bioleninismiksi, jossa yhteiskunnan eliitti mobilisoi yhteiskunnan pohjasakan keskiluokan (lue valkoihoisten) kimppuun.
Quote
...

At the core of Bioleninism, is the articulation of a process through which a Coalition of the Fringes has been built / mobilized by the Elites to seize / wield Power, which comports to the universal historical pattern of High and Low against the Middle.
...

Well, it's been a year now, and my episodic memory is pretty bad, so I can't really trace my thought process that clearly. I remember I had been discussing with some fellow reactionaries about the "Crazy Glue" concept, the question of what on earth it is that sticks the many different parts of the modern left together. The coinage comes from Steve Sailer, and his idea was that the different factions of the left, the "Coalition of the fringes" he calls them, are united by hatred/envy of white people, especially white men. I tended to agree with that formulation, but it's very rare that I disagree with Steve Sailer at all.
...

https://parallaxoptics.com/2018/12/11/on-bioleninism/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 23.11.2021, 17:36:11
Quote from: Penan kaveri Eki on 22.11.2021, 23:04:30
Quote from: Ajatolloh on 22.11.2021, 22:54:07
Enempi tuo cäncelöinti kuulostaa minusta erään herra Maon "kulttuurilta". Oikein kulttuurivallankumoukselta.

Nikolai Yezhov cäncelöitiin Stalinin toimesta kirjaimellisesti (nikkeliä takaraivoon). Oli kertomusten mukaan luonnevikainen sadistipuppeli. Mene ja tiedä, mutta sai syyt niskoilleen.

https://www.history.com/news/josef-stalin-great-purge-photo-retouching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Yezhov

Tämä oli tuolle pikku mulkku-Nikolaille tietysti ihan oikein. Samoin kuin kaikille kaltaisilleen alimmantason ryönä-ihmisisille kautta historian. Ja tietysti myöskin tulevaisuuden.

Huhhuh. Kuinkahan sekaisin pitää oikein olla päästään, että noiden porukkaan lähtee mukaan.
jos tämä on kaikki se, mitä "uusivasemmisto" pystyy kansalaisilleen antamaan, niin kjihiihii!!  :roll:

Quote[/Tuo on intersektionaalisen feminismin ja woken looginen päätepiste. Aina on joku joka on sorretumpi kuin toinen. Tiina Wiik sanoi jollain omalla striimillä että somen feministit ja muut suvakit ovat koko ajan varuillaan siitä onko itse tarpeeksi oikeaoppinen feministi ja suvakki. Heillä on täysi työ pysyä ajan tasallla siitä mikä on hyväksyttyä ja oikeaoppista. Jos ei pysy ajan tasalla, on riski että sanoo tietämättään jotain mikä aiheuttaa maalittamisen ja canceloinnin omien taholta. Tiinan mukaan ei ole ihme jos somen feministit ja suvakit muuttuvat paranoideiksi ja mielenterveysongelmia ilmenee.

täytyyhän täs nyt käydä niin, että jollakin suvakilla voi pian lyödä kaksi kipinää päässä yhteen, ja voi ruteta ajattelemaan maailmaa hieman uudelta kantilta.. täytyyhän????

tähän vielä yksi pieni kysymys, eihän suvakkien pitänyt maalittaa koskaan ketään?? eihän?? mä muistelen että ne alkuperäiset  :silakka: olivat silloin jounpyhinä 2019 myös maalittamista vastaan.  maalittamista piti vain niiden toisten harjoittaa ;D
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 23.11.2021, 17:47:27
Quote from: Fiftari on 23.11.2021, 16:40:38
Ylellä damage control päällä. Ihana pakkomaksaa tuon budjetti  :facepalm:

QuoteHenry Laasanen
Yle raahaa framille kolme woke-feministiä valkopesemään hullun wokemuijan töräytyksiä. Keskustelussa ei enää ole Valtaojan kaltaista "ääripäätä. A-studion muijat valehtelevat, että kyse on rasismikohusta, kun oikeasti kyse on woke-hulluudesta.


Sitä samaa kaupallisellakin puolella:

QuoteTutkija kertoo, miksi Sannikka-kohu syntyi – tästä woke- ja cancel-kulttuureissa on kyse

Tohtori, tutkija Faith Mkweshan mukaan valtaväestön ei pidä koskaan käyttää n-sanaa. Väitöskirjatutkija Emmi Holmin mielestä on absurdia verrata rap-musiikin ja Peppi Pitkätossun kielenkäyttöä keskenään.


[...]

Mitä on cancelointi, onko se pyrkimys vaientaa ei-toivotut mielipiteet?

Faith Mkwesha:

– Canceloinnilla viitataan siihen, että rasistisesti tai muuten arvojen vastaisesti käyttäytyvältä henkilöltä tai taholta esimerkiksi vedetään yhteisön tuki tai heidät suljetaan ulos. Woke-kulttuurissa termillä tarkoitetaan sitä, että ihmistä pidetään vastuullisena toiminnastaan ja esimerkiksi rasistisesta käytöksestään.

Emmi Holm:

– Valta-asemaa nauttivia henkilöitä ja tahoja on somen takia entistä helpompi kritisoida. Tämä saattaa herättää vastustusreaktioita ihmisissä. Samoin kuin woke-kulttuurissa, perimmäinen pyrkimys on muuttaa rakenteita, ei tuhota yksilöitä.

– Somen yksilökeskeisen logiikan mukaan myös cancel-kulttuuriin kuuluu ylilyöntejä ja keskustelun mustavalkoisuutta. Harvemmin ketään kuitenkin oikeasti canceloidaan. Esimerkiksi Valtaojaa ei ole canceloitu, eikä niin tule tapahtumaan, sillä hänellä on edelleen mahdollisuus tulla kuulluksi yhteiskunnallisissa keskusteluissa.
Ilta-Sanomat (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000008421644.html) 23.11.2021
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 23.11.2021, 17:59:35
Quote from: Roope on 23.11.2021, 17:47:27

Tohtori, tutkija Faith Mkweshan
https://twitter.com/mkweshafaith

Dr. Faith Mkwesha #ProtectBlackGirlsToo
PhD, Founder of SahWira Africa International, Researcher, Academic Activist, Pan-African, Internationalist, Decolonise the mind! mother of 5🌷🌷🌷

Oli retwiitannut postauksen jossa allaoleva kuva.
Varokaa valkoiset feministit ja muut sekopäät, te olette jonossa vain hieman Valtaojan jälkeen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Penan kaveri Eki on 23.11.2021, 18:14:01
Quote from: Dangr on 23.11.2021, 17:59:35
https://twitter.com/mkweshafaith

Dr. Faith Mkwesha #ProtectBlackGirlsToo
PhD, Founder of SahWira Africa International, Researcher, Academic Activist, Pan-African, Internationalist, Decolonise the mind! mother of 5🌷🌷🌷


Tämähän on se sama hörhö joka Åbo Akademissa paransi työoloja/-tiloja vuorikristalleilla

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2021, 18:47:49
YLEn luonnollinen kierto hauskoissa kuvissa https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,3.msg3368196.html#msg3368196 .
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: IDA on 23.11.2021, 18:53:08
Yleisradiolla ei ole mitään velvollisuutta pysyä totuudessa, kun kyse on oikeistolaisuuden tai rasismin epäilystä. Valtiollisella propagandalla kun on näin sota-aikana omat velvollisuutensa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: IDA on 23.11.2021, 18:56:35
Quote from: Dangr on 23.11.2021, 17:59:35
Dr. Faith Mkwesha #ProtectBlackGirlsToo
, Founder of SahWira Africa International, Researcher, Academic Activist, Pan-African, Internationalist, Decolonise the mind! mother of 5🌷🌷🌷

Muistan vielä teiniajoilta, että joissain suomalaisissa lukioissa opiskeltiin silloin latinaa. Olisi aivan pryceless, jos nykyisistä ylioppilaista joku kykenisi siihen edes yliopistossa. Ei vain taida onnistua enää.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eisernes Kreuz on 23.11.2021, 19:04:03
Alkaa todella vaikuttaa siltä, että Sannikan ohjelman lähettäminen oli jonkinlainen työtapaturma Yleltä. Viime päivinä intersektionaalista feministiä onkin sitten puolustettu Ylen toimesta entistä päättäväisemmin.

Olisiko taas paikallaan keskustelu siitä, mikä oikein on Ylen tehtävä suomalaisessa yhteiskunnassa? Vaan eivätpähän ne keskustelut tavallisesti mihinkään johda.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 23.11.2021, 19:19:26
Quote from: FadeAway on 23.11.2021, 16:00:34
Yle lopettaa Sannikan ohjelman.Viimeinen lähetys on 3.12.

Marxismi ja sen modernit johdannaiset kuten wokeus vaativat puhdasoppisuutta. Jos lipsut, teloituskomppania odottaa.

Sannikkan ohjelmassa puhutttiin canceloinnista ja kaiken kukkuraksi käytettiin N-SANAA !½!!§1!! Ihan kun kutsuisi pirua kirkossa !! IIIIIK !!½!!11!!

Tuomio: CANCEL!!

Puhdasoppisuuden terävän miekan koki myös antirasistiksi itsensä kutsuva Rasmusverkon Ossi Mäntylahti. Hän tohti kyseenalaistaa sen, että vain neekerit saisivat olla äänessä.

Tuomio: CANCEL!!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 23.11.2021, 19:47:38
Yleisradion pitäisi kai olla valtiomme virallisen kannan kanava. Radion kuuntelemisen tarvittiin radio/tv maksullinen lupa. Kun maksajia ei ylensyöjille (työpaikkaravintolansa) riittänyt, politrukit päättivät periä luvan hinnan pakolla. Veroilmoitukseen tuli tuo vihattu oma rivinsä kommunistien propagandalle.
Ohjelmistotarjonta on huumoritonta wokepaskaa ja toimittajat vanhoina stalinisteina hihkuvat marxilaiseen paskaan perustuvaan CSJ-ideologiaan.
Nyt nämä kiihkouskovaiset vallanhimoiset hyvikset uhoavat NEEKERI-sanan käyttämisestä. USA:ssa ihminen saa väestönlaskennassa itse ilmoittaa, mihin rotuun tuntee kuuluvansa. Inkkarit eli punanahat eivät todellakkan halua kuulua valkonaamoihin.
Suomi on näiden matujen mukaan Euroopan rasistisin maa. Rasismin toivat Suomeen nämä tänne laittomasti tulleet ulkomaalaiset. Schengen-sopimuksen vastaisesti toimineet Mutti-Saksan EU-kansalaisten vapaan liikkuvuuden siirtolaisille myöntäneet läpikulkumaat ovat perseestää Ja pahin oli Ruotsi.
Suomalainen on ollut rasismin uhri historiallisesti katsoen. Isovihat tms. Nyt tänne saapuneet ylpeät ja vaativaiset ihmiset tekevät jatkuvaa tuhoa suomalaisen kansan koheesiolle, sivistykselle ja elintasolle.
Ja se perkeleen iso valhe, että tänne vaeltaneet kultamunat olisivat jotenkin hyödyksi Suomelle, vituttaa joitain valveutuneita kansalaisia.
Ihonvärin, kielen, uskonnon tai muuten meille vierasta väkeä hyväksyttiin ja ihailtiinkin nuoruudessani 50-luvulta laajasti. Tulijoiden asenne ei ollut valloittajien, vaan ihan sopuisaa väkeä.
Tosin saksalaiset turistit ihailivat maitolavoja, joilta sai ilmaiseksi maitoa ja perunoita tienvarren pelloilta. Turistit tulee ajallaan, talo elää tavallaan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8Tiz6INF7I

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 23.11.2021, 20:43:42
Heh, unohdin sukupuolet. USA:ssa on annettu äskettäin ensimmäinen ulkomaanpassi. jossa sukupuoli oli merkitty kirjaimella X.
Tasa-arvo on nykyään määritelty uudestaan. Se tarkoittaa nyt vähemmistön valtaa yli enemmistön.
Monikulttuurisuus ja valinnanvarainen sukupuoli ovat ideologisia diktatuuriin johdattelevia ajatushimmeleitä ja lisää on tulossa.
Multikultti on suorin tie kommunistiseen vallankumoukseen valkoiset vastaan muut.
Sukupuolen omavalinta on yhteiskunnalle kallista, ja siitä seuraa, että meillä on pian kunnon Freak show.
Sukupuoli määräytyy ihmisen kromosomien perusteella. Onko se sitten kehityshäiriö, jos sikiö jää johonkin välitilaan? Evoluution kannalta nämä ovat harhaiskuja. Tätikin olis setä, jos sillä olis munat. Ei hätää, ystävällinen kirurgi auttaa poikatyttöä ja tyttöpoikaa Voi ollaa vanhemmille ylläri.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 23.11.2021, 20:55:39
 Sokea kana ja jyvä-ilmiö?

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 23.11.2021, 21:18:00
https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008420904.html

"– Vaikka ymmärsin mitä Esko yritti ohjelmassa havainnollistaa, en silti olisi halunnut kuulla n-sanaa studiossa, en koko ohjelmassa, enkä ylipäätään missään."

Iso osa kansasta ei halua nähdä n-sanaa lähiympäristössään. Jotenkin tämä koetaan ongelmaksi mediassa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 21:31:19
Tämä keskustelu on alleviivannut sitä kuinka voimakas ase sana neekeri meille on. Voldemort ei ole mitään neekeriin verrattuna. Kun joku lausahtaa neekeri, on seurauksena infernaalinen halvaus ja tilttaus, ja lopulta lähtee toimittajalta ohjelma alta ja kenties työpaikkakin.

Neekeri on suvakkien kryptoniitti. He eivät hillitse itseään sen edessä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Antti Ruokolainen on 23.11.2021, 21:36:57
Mitä helvettiä oikein tapahtuu? Hirveä paskahalvaus useammallakin äärisuvakilla. Joku äärivasemmalta kommentoi että Wokesta huolestuminen nyt on sama kuin huolestua punkkareista vuonna 1989. Ei nyt ihan sama asia, mutta helvetin hyvä esimerkki. Älkää nyt enää lähtekö nurmoolaaset!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Histon on 23.11.2021, 21:45:04
Quote from: FadeAway on 23.11.2021, 16:00:34
Yle lopettaa Sannikan ohjelman.
Viimeinen lähetys on 3.12.
Uskalsiko Sannika sohaista muurahaispesään, koska tiesi että lähtö on joka tapauksessa tulossa? YLE:n mukaan päätös lopettamisesta on tehty jo keväällä.

https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008425817.html
QuoteYLE lopettaa Marja Sannikka -ajankohtaisohjelman vuoden loppuun mennessä. Ohjelman tuottaja Ville Kolari vahvisti asian Ilta-Sanomille tiistaina iltapäivällä.

– Päätös on tehty jo keväällä ja viimeinen lähetys on 3. joulukuuta, Kolari kertoo.

Tuottajan mukaan kohulla, joka on viime päivät pyörinyt kyseisen ohjelman ympärillä, ei ole mitään tekemistä lopetuspäätöksen kanssa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ajatolloh on 23.11.2021, 21:47:50
Quote from: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 21:31:19
Tämä keskustelu on alleviivannut sitä kuinka voimakas ase sana neekeri meille on. Voldemort ei ole mitään neekeriin verrattuna. Kun joku lausahtaa neekeri, on seurauksena infernaalinen halvaus ja tilttaus, ja lopulta lähtee toimittajalta ohjelma alta ja kenties työpaikkakin.

Neekeri on suvakkien kryptoniitti. He eivät hillitse itseään sen edessä.

Tämä. Itse olen tässä juuri mehustellut viimeiset vuorokaudet ajatuksella, että jossain sopivassa tilassa on hyvä ottaa ns. totaalihallinta ajasta ja paikasta esim repliikillä: "No niin, kaikki tekevät nyt tismalleen kuten minä äsken juuri sanoin - tai teen tästä tilasta turvattoman n-sanalla"

Käsittämätöntä, että yhdellä sanalla saa itselleen Supermanin taikavoimat, kuulostaa jopa vähän banaalilta ja 1500 luvun inkahovin conqistador-meiningiltä kun eka kontakti on valkoista miestä aiemmin näkemätömiin mayoihin ja inkoihin on saatu, paukautettu vähän bwanan Tulikeppiä™ ja paikalliset lakoaa kymmentuhatpäisesti uuden Jumalansa jalkojen edessä. Vaikka niitä on monintuhatkertainen ylivoima...tässä on jo vähän hoopo olo, että näin helppoako se olikin?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Fiftari on 23.11.2021, 21:52:29
Varttisaamelainenkin ottaa kierroksia.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 23.11.2021, 22:23:44
Quote from: IDA on 23.11.2021, 18:56:35
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Muistan vielä teiniajoilta, että joissain suomalaisissa lukioissa opiskeltiin silloin latinaa. Olisi aivan pryceless, jos nykyisistä ylioppilaista joku kykenisi siihen edes yliopistossa. Ei vain taida onnistua enää.

Helsingin yliopistossa se onnistuu oppiaineessa https://www.helsinki.fi/fi/humanistinen-tiedekunta/tutkimus/tieteenalat/kielten-tutkimus/latinan-kieli-ja-rooman-kirjallisuus

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Latinan kielen ja Rooman kirjallisuuden tutkimus kohdistuu latinan kieleen ja sillä tuotettuun kirjoitettuun aineistoon antiikin ajoista aina uuteen aikaan saakka.
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Muissa yliopistoissa ks. Wikipedia:
https://fi.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiikintutkimus
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Suomessa muinaiskreikkaa ja erityisesti latinaa voi opiskella useassa yliopistossa. Klassillisen filologian oppiaineita voi opiskella pääaineena Helsingin ja Turun yliopistoissa; Helsingin yliopistossa oppiaineet ovat kreikan kieli ja kulttuuri sekä latinan kieli ja Rooman kirjallisuus, Turun yliopistossa vastaavat aineet ovat nimeltään kreikkalainen filologia ja latinalainen filologia. Latinan kieltä voi pääaineena opiskella lisäksi Jyväskylän yliopistossa. Latinan kieli ja antiikin traditio -nimistä oppiainetta voi opiskella sivuaineena Tampereen yliopistossa.

Taitaapi cancel ja awoken yltää niihinkin nykyään, vaan ei vielä juurikaan 20 vuotta sitten kun minä latinaa opiskelin HY:ssa.

Edit. Lisätty linkki wikipediaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kemolitor on 23.11.2021, 22:30:26
Löytyy onneksi vielä toimittajia, jotka uskaltavat käyttää asiantuntijoina jotain muitakin kuin woke-fanaatikkoja:

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Tällaista on kiistelty woke-ajattelu: "En ihmettele vertauksia stalinismiin"

Woke-kulttuuria on viime päivinä useaan otteeseen verrattu 1970-luvun stalinismiin sen jälkeen, kun Ylen Sannikka-ohjelmassa käyty keskustelu aiheutti termistä kiivaan keskustelun. Stalinismi-viittaukset nousivat esiin myös taannoisen Afrikan tähti -kohun jälkeen.

Näitä kaikuja kuulee myös pohjoisamerikkalaista identiteettikeskustelua tutkiva aatehistorian dosentti Ari Helo Helsingin yliopistosta.

– En ihmettele woke-kulttuurista tehtyjä vertauksia stalinismiin siinä mielessä, että kummankaan ajatteluun ei kuulu enemmistödemokratian mukainen yritys taivutella muut puolelleen, vaan muiden syyttely siitä, etteivät ymmärrä oman ajattelunsa puutteita. Stalinistit tunnetusti väittivät, ettei kansa ymmärrä kapitalismin sortavia rakenteita kyllin selvästi, Helo muistuttaa.

Woken ja stalinismin rinnasti esimerkiksi keskustakonkari Risto Volanen.
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Helo kirjoitti asiasta keväällä. Hänen mukaansa woke-ilmiö oli muuttumassa avoimiksi sensuurivaateiksi ja käänteiseksi rasismiksi.

Hän viittasi Ylen juttuun, jossa kerrottiin ihonväriään häpeävistä valkoisista liittyen emojien käyttöön.

– Itse en suostu häpeämään sitä, että olen keski-ikäinen, valkoinen mies, koska näihin ominaisuuksiini en ole itse voinut vaikuttaa, Helo totesi.

Afrikan tähti -kohun aikaan woke-ideologiaa kritisoi myös Jyväskylän yliopiston historian ja politiikan väitöskirjatutkija Jani Kokko.

– Kohun käynnistänyt saksalainen vaihto-opiskelija toimii woke-kulttuurin mukaisesti vääristelemällä faktoja omaan ideologiaansa sopiviksi. Jos ammattiloukkaantuja olisi ottanut asioista selvää niin hän olisi ymmärtänyt ettei Afrikan tähdessä osteta tai myydä orjia, ainoat orjiksi joutuvat ovat valkoisia eikä pelistä löydy blackfacea, hän kirjoitti.
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Helo kirjoitti aiemmin, että Yhdysvalloissa woke-ilmiö on jo tuottanut kulttuurisotien rintamille laajan, rasistissävyisen sensuurin.

– Woke-ilmiöllä on afrikkalaisamerikkalainen tausta, mutta yhteiskuntakeskustelun keskiöön woke- ja cancel-kulttuuri nousi varsinaisesti vasta Donald Trumpin presidenttikaudella. Ensin käytiin vanhojen rasististen patsaiden kimppuun ja sitten havahduttiin siihen, että koko historia 1960-luvun rotuerottelun lopettamiseen saakka oli ollut rasistista. Sittemmin pääteltiin, että rasismi selittää kaikki yhteiskuntaongelmat myös tämän päivän Yhdysvalloissa.
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Sannikka-kohun jälkeen päivitetyssä kirjoituksessa woke-kulttuuria avaa Ylellä toimittaja Ndéla Faye. Hän ei vastannut Iltalehden haastattelupyyntöön.
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Helon mielestä woke-kulttuurin päällimmäisin ongelma on sen hyökkäävyys, minkä vuoksi esimerkiksi Barack Obama irtisanoutui siitä vuosia sitten. Ihmisille tulee puolustautumisreaktio, kun heitä tahallaan ymmärretään väärin.

– Enemmistödemokratiassa enemmistö pitäisi taivutella omalle puolelle, ihmisten moittiminen on siinä huono strategia. Lisäksi woke-väki keskittyy niiden valistamiseen ja oikomiseen, jotka jo vastustavat rasismia. Keskusteluun eivät haastateltuina juuri julkirasistit edes pääse osallistumaan, ja he ovat rasismikeskustelun ainoa varsinainen ongelma.

Wokeen liittyy selvästi myös strategia, jonka mukaan aihe vaihtuu aina sen mukaan, mistä voisi seuraavaksi itse pahastua, ikään kuin rasismikeskustelu olisi sama asia kuin yhdenvertaisuuskeskustelu, tunneälystä keskusteleminen tai keskustelu itse woke-kulttuurista.
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Koko juttu:
IL: Tällaista on kiistelty woke-ajattelu: "En ihmettele vertauksia stalinismiin" (https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/8ff51bcd-2562-4352-9414-143d1587ca1a)

Koko juttu on täyttä asiaa, suositan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Maastamuuttaja on 23.11.2021, 22:33:14
N-sana voitaisiin korvata VAP--nimikkellä. Violent Approach Preferred. Jännittää, hyväksyisivätkö vihreät. No,eiköhän vihreiden militääri siipi, Elovainio ainakin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 24.11.2021, 01:27:13
Quote from: Histon on 23.11.2021, 21:45:04
Quote from: FadeAway on 23.11.2021, 16:00:34
Yle lopettaa Sannikan ohjelman.
Viimeinen lähetys on 3.12.
Uskalsiko Sannika sohaista muurahaispesään, koska tiesi että lähtö on joka tapauksessa tulossa? YLE:n mukaan päätös lopettamisesta on tehty jo keväällä.

https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008425817.html
QuoteYLE lopettaa Marja Sannikka -ajankohtaisohjelman vuoden loppuun mennessä. Ohjelman tuottaja Ville Kolari vahvisti asian Ilta-Sanomille tiistaina iltapäivällä.

– Päätös on tehty jo keväällä ja viimeinen lähetys on 3. joulukuuta, Kolari kertoo.

Tuottajan mukaan kohulla, joka on viime päivät pyörinyt kyseisen ohjelman ympärillä, ei ole mitään tekemistä lopetuspäätöksen kanssa.


Mikään ei taas liity mihinkään. Tuliko jollekulle yllätyksenä?

Onkohan Sannikka sittenkin piilonuiva. Eikös se luvannut YLE:n toimesta järjestää sille retzapahlaville jotain terapiaa ohjelmassaan saamiinsa traumoihin. Mielestäni se on kyllä silkkaa vittuilua tuolle ihmiselle.

Quote from: jokuiltapäivälehtiEbrahimin mukaan Sannikka tarjosi myös pariin otteeseen apuaan ja neuvoi, kehen kannattaa olla yhteydessä Yleltä, jos hän tarvitsee keskusteluapua.

Tuo lausunto asettuu nyt vielä täysin uuteen valoon, kun Sannikan ohjelma loppuu. Olisiko ohjelmapäällikkö, kenen nimen antoi, tai esimies?

Ajatelkaa nyt, kun lumihiutale särkyy katsoessaan peiliin ja sannikka pyytää anteeksi ja antaa nimen kelle soittaa, jos tarvii puhua. Heh. Jos noiden wokkeleiden kanssa pitäisi enemmänkin asioida, varmaan voisi jossain Vistaprintillä teettää jotain Homma haltuunˆˆˆ -terapiakeskuksen käyntikortteja, joita voisi jakaa kaikille särkyneille jääkiteille, lumihiutaleille ja syysmyrskyille. Kenen puhelinnumero laitettaisiin?

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 24.11.2021, 05:00:27
Harri Hepojärvi kirjoittaa kehonrakentajasta varsin islamofobiseen tyyliin. Eikö Harri tiedä että tämä on ihan sallittua ja normaalia islamin mukaan eikä sellaisesta saisi kirjoittaa tällaiseen "kauhistelevaan" tyyliin. Olisiko cancel tuomioistuimen paikka Harrille?

Vaimo järkyttyi miehensä tempusta: supertähti meni salaa naimisiin toisen naisen kanssa – kuva leviää somessa
Lähi-idän tiedotusvälineet kertoivat perjantaina, että kehonrakennuksen supertähdellä Mamdouh Elssbiaylla olisi nyt kaksi vaimoa.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/fitnessvoimailu/a/cd4f3de9-b6b4-41d7-8041-9c0307f66c37

Mamdouh Elssbiay eli Big Ramy on mennyt naimisiin, vaikka mies ei ole eronnut edellisestä vaimostaan.

Velipoika puolusti Elssbiayn ratkaisua sillä, että hänellä oli siihen täysi oikeus ja omat syynsä, joita Mohammed ei kuitenkaan avannut tarkemmin. Egyptissä moniavioisuus on yhä laillista.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 24.11.2021, 07:36:23
Quote from: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 21:31:19
Tämä keskustelu on alleviivannut sitä kuinka voimakas ase sana neekeri meille on. Voldemort ei ole mitään neekeriin verrattuna. Kun joku lausahtaa neekeri, on seurauksena infernaalinen halvaus ja tilttaus, ja lopulta lähtee toimittajalta ohjelma alta ja kenties työpaikkakin.

Neekeri on suvakkien kryptoniitti. He eivät hillitse itseään sen edessä.

näin on.

Ja juuri siksi itse aioin pitää tiukasti kiiinni oikeudestani lausua sanan neekeri, samaan tapaan kuin Teemu Keskisarja. Sitä sanaa ei ole kielletty laissa ja muutama tärähtänyt idiootti ei minulta sitä oikeutta vie. Ei minun tarvitse neekeri-sanaa viljellä mutta jos sille sanalle on käyttöä niin silloin sitä käytän.

Vasta kun neekerisana on kielletty Suomen laissa, en sitä enää käytä. Mutta siihen asti en aio hyväksyä sitä että joukko idiootteja vetää suomen sanakirjasta yli sanoja ja väittää että nämä ja nämä sanat ovat kiellettyjä. Ei se näin mene.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ludicrous on 24.11.2021, 09:26:53
Itseäni vituttaa koko n-sana. Ei siis "neekeri" vaan ihan kirjaimellisesti "n-sana". Olemmeko me jotain taikauskoisia lapsia? Sanomalla neekeri manaamme pahat henget paikalle, mutta voimme ovelasti kiertää tämän korvaamalla sen n-sanalla? Jos jossain sanotaan/kirjoitetaan "n-sana", oli oikeasti tarvetta sanoa/kirjoittaa "neekeri", paitsi jos käy jotain metakeskustelua uudissanastosta.

Neekeri on suomen kielessä arvoneutraali sana, tai ainakin oli ennen kuin ammattiloukkaantujat alkoivat sitä likaamaan. Pitkälti tästä aktiivisesta työstä johtuen sana on jo melkolailla vanhentunut eikä esimerkiksi minulla kuulu aktiivisanastoon, vaikken kärsikään mainitsemastani taikauskosta. Kieli on kehittyvä eikä tule koskaan valmiiksi, mutta juuri tässä tapauksessa sanan ympärillä tapahtuva vauhkoilu, sen suorittajat ja syyt saavat veren kiehumaan. Erityisen tyhmää loukkaantuminen oli tässä Valtaojan tapauksessa, sillä Peppi Pitkätossussa luki alunperin "neekerikuningas" eikä "n-sanakuningas" eikä minkäänlainen itkupotkuraivari suvakkien taholta tule ikinä muuttamaan tätä tosiseikkaa.

Suoritetaanpa mielikuvituskoe. Olen jossain Afrikan maassa asukkaana ja valitan, että teidän pitää lopettaa löyhkäävän ruokanne valmistus, sillä se loukkaa herkkiä aistejani. Bonuksena olen vielä siellä paikallisten elätettävänä, sillä Suomi on minulle niin turvaton, ettei yhtään lähempää löytynyt soveltuvaa turvapaikkaa. Mitä luulette, asettuuko maan johtavat instituutiot minun vaiko alkuasukkaiden puolelle?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tsuudi on 24.11.2021, 10:34:40
Quote from: Hohtava Mamma on 24.11.2021, 10:05:27

Niin, ja kuinkahan monta kertaa musta mies on huoritellut valkoista naista? Tai ruskea nainen?
Niin, tai entäpä nimittelyt spermanaamoiksi tms? Minulle on ihan yhden tekevää, että mitä mieltä neekerit ovat minusta tai meistä suomalaisista. Heillä on mielestäni oikeus kertoa näkemyksensä. En minä siitä jaksa loukkaantua. Vastaavasti katson minulla olevan oikeuden kertoa julkisesti esimerkiksi väkivalta- ja seksuaalirikosten korreloinnista kansallisuuden tai etnisen alkuperän suhteen. Samoin katson oikeudekseni kertoa pohjoismaisen hyvinvoinnin suhteesta etnisyyteen ja kulttuuriin sekä erinäköisten stanioiden olosuhteiden suhteesta niinikään etnisyyteen ja erityisesti kulttuuriin.
Nimitelkööt miksi haluaa, mutta minä en oikein osaa arvostaa sanojia, joiden omissa kulttuureissa suurinta viisautta edustaa mielisairaan pedofiiliprofeetan horinat.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Simo Hovari on 24.11.2021, 11:00:45
Sitä jäin mietimään ruskea naisen esiintymisen jälkeen, että liittyykö tämä woke-ilmiö ja sen jäsenet jotenkin rakennusalaan? Kun lähtevät heti koolaamaan kun joku sanoo tuhmasti?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 24.11.2021, 11:53:15
Neekeri esiintyy 15 kertaa Martin Luther Kingin  "I have a Dream" -puheessa  (https://www.npr.org/2010/01/18/122701268/i-have-a-dream-speech-in-its-entirety) 28.8.1963

Esim.

QuoteBut 100 years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later...

Onkin huvittavaa, että kun heränneistö (woke) siteeraa puhetta, se tapahtuu niin, että pastorin sanoja joudutaan muuttamaan. Nythän ollaan opittu Sannikka-gaten yhteydessä, että n-sana on kielletty, olkoon yhteys mikä tahansa.

Tulee mielen Monty Pythonin sketsi Jehova-sanasta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 24.11.2021, 12:07:12
Ihan mielenkiintoinen twiittiketju. Siinä tuodaan esiin vähän sitä, mistä Hommallakin on ollut juttua, että tuo wokehimmeli tuskin juurikaan leviäisi, ellei globaali valtaeliitti ajaisi sitä kovalla voimalla. Koska hyperkapitalistinen ja kommunistinen yhteiskunta / järjestelmä on loppupeleissä aika samantyyppinen.

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Ja vähän muuta. Neekeri-sanaan liittyen:

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Niille enemmän äänivaltaa, jotka äänestävät oikein:

[tweet]1462974340748562432[/tweet]

V...n saalistajat:

[tweet]1462992870583853064[/tweet]
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mika on 24.11.2021, 12:14:07
Quote from: Tsuudi on 24.11.2021, 10:34:40
Minulle on ihan yhden tekevää, että mitä mieltä neekerit ovat minusta tai meistä suomalaisista. Heillä on mielestäni oikeus kertoa näkemyksensä. En minä siitä jaksa loukkaantua.

Tällainen näkemys on äärimmäisen rasistinen, koska se heijastelee valkoisen rodun ylemmyydentuntoa törkeimmillään :P :flowerhat:
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tsuudi on 24.11.2021, 13:52:01
Quote from: Simo Hovari on 24.11.2021, 11:00:45
Sitä jäin mietimään ruskea naisen esiintymisen jälkeen, että liittyykö tämä woke-ilmiö ja sen jäsenet jotenkin rakennusalaan? Kun lähtevät heti koolaamaan kun joku sanoo tuhmasti?
Mahdollisesti. Kun samaa menoa jatkavat, saattavat saada jonain päivänä havaintoesityksen mitä rakennustermit "naulaaminen" ja "niittaaminen" tarkoittaa. Sitä edeltää riittävän laaja "kiinni hitsaaminen"...
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Shemeikka on 24.11.2021, 16:40:37
Sanoja voi lakata käyttämästä ja niiden tilalla käyttää muita sanoja mutta merkitys ei muutu.

Ei nimi miestä pahenna ellei mies nimeä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Blanc73 on 24.11.2021, 18:51:52
Nykyisin elää jonkinlaisena myyttinä se että vielä 70- ja 80-luvuillakin neekeri-sanaa viljeltiin kokoajan arkikielessä. Minun muistini mukaan se ei pidä paikkaansa. Koulukirjoissa pari mainintaa ja se kuuluisa N-kirjaimen oikeinkirjoitustaulu alaluokan seinällä. Ne muistan lapsuudestani. Siinä kaikki.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dr Manhattan on 24.11.2021, 19:11:59
Quote from: Blanc73 on 24.11.2021, 18:51:52
Nykyisin elää jonkinlaisena myyttinä se että vielä 70- ja 80-luvuillakin neekeri-sanaa viljeltiin kokoajan arkikielessä. Minun muistini mukaan se ei pidä paikkaansa. Koulukirjoissa pari mainintaa ja se kuuluisa N-kirjaimen oikeinkirjoitustaulu alaluokan seinällä. Ne muistan lapsuudestani. Siinä kaikki.
Eipä ollut mitään syytä puhua sellaisesta mitä ei koskaan nähnyt. Telkkarissakin oli vain biafralaisia tai kongolaisia tai etiopialaisia. Ei ollut mitään tarvetta puhua koko maailman kaikista neekereistä yhtenä klimppinä. Sitten vasta kun niitä alkoi pyöriä kylillä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Maastamuuttaja on 24.11.2021, 19:31:34
Amerikassa on myös mustien - neekerien - yhdistyksiä, jotka vastustavat neekeri-sanan kieltoja. Perusneekeriydessä ei ole mitään häpeämistä eikä neeeriyttä tule hävetä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kemolitor on 24.11.2021, 20:09:46
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Pääkirjoitus: Woke-ideologian keinot hidastavat päämäärän saavuttamista

Herätys! Nyt minä kerron sinulle, missä olet väärässä ja kuinka sinun oikeasti pitää ajatella ja puhua.

Nousiko karvat pystyyn? En ihmettele, sillä torjuntareaktio on useimmilla ihmisillä ensimmäinen asia, joka herää, kun toinen alkaa määrätä sitä, miten pitää ajatella ja puhua.

Oikeaoppinen puhe ja ajattelutapa liittyvät Yhdysvalloista Suomeen rantautuneeseen woke-ideologiaan, joka on viime aikoina ollut myös Suomessa paljon esillä.
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Pahimmillaan woke-ideologiaan liittyy aatteellinen puhdasoppisuuden vaatimus. Lisäksi siihen liittyvässä cancel-kulttuurissa pyritään leimaamaan ja vaientamaan "väärin" ajattelevia ja puhuvia ihmisiä.

Vaikka woke-ideologiassa on syyllistytty ylilyönteihin, silti sekin on hyvä muistaa, että yhteiskunnan kehitys on usein mennyt eteenpäin tiedostavan joukon aikanaan radikaaliksi koettujen toimintatapojen avulla.
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Vaikka taistelu tasa-arvoisemman yhteiskunnan puolesta on tärkeää, silti kenelläkään ei pidä olla oikeutta määritellä omasta "uhripositiostaan" muiden totuutta.

Jos esimerkiksi "heränneille" annettaisiin yksin valta määritellä se, minkälainen puhe tai kulttuurituote on oikeaoppinen, silloin oltaisiin jälleen kerran yhden totuuden tiellä, josta on saatu historiassa riittävän paljon ikäviä esimerkkejä.
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Woke-ideologian mukaan etuoikeutettujen pitäisi myös välillä olla hiljaa ja kuunnella mitä vähemmistöillä on sanottavanaan. Kuuntelu on tietysti tärkeää, mutta sen pitää olla vastavuoroista.

Liberaalin yhteiskunnan erinomaisena edistyksenä voi myös pitää sitä, että kaikki saavat osallistua keskusteluun – toivon mukaan ilman vihapuhetta, tai some-lynkkauksia.

Tasa-arvoisemman yhteiskunnan edistämiseen tarvitaan kaikki mukaan, mutta jos vain sorrettujen totuus kelpaa asian edistämiseksi, silloin on vaarana, että muut suljetaan ulos.

Koko juttu:
IL: Pääkirjoitus: Woke-ideologian keinot hidastavat päämäärän saavuttamista (https://www.iltalehti.fi/paakirjoitus/a/55462201-4228-4dee-acc3-e5c7940a1bb2)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pörrö on 24.11.2021, 20:41:09
@Kemolitor ehti ensin, mutta juttu kannattaa lukea kokonaisuudessaan.

Laitoin jo palautetta Kreeta Karvalalle:

QuoteHyvä Kreeta Karvala,

Haluaisin kommentoida kirjoitustasi

https://www.iltalehti.fi/paakirjoitus/a/55462201-4228-4dee-acc3-e5c7940a1bb2

seuraavasti:

"Suomi oli esimerkiksi vuonna 2018 kaikkein rasistisin maa 12 tutkimukseen osallistuneen EU-maan joukossa. Lisäksi täällä on tutkitusti syrjivät työmarkkinat: Suomessa saa huomattavasti helpommin töitä kantasuomalaisella nimellä kuin ulkomaalaisella, vaikka hakijat olisivat yhtä päteviä."

Tutkimuksessa 12:ta EU-maata koskevan tutkimuksen kaikista vastaajista 30 prosenttia koki joutuneensa rasistisen ahdistelun tai häirinnän kohteeksi ihonvärinsä vuoksi edellisten 5 vuoden aikana. Suomen vastaajista näin koki peräti 63 prosenttia.

Se, että jotain koetaan, ei kuitenkaan osoita mitään konkreettista rasistisuudesta.

Voitaisiinko asiaa tutkia joskus myös toisin päin? Olen kokenut oloni turvattomaksi monen monituista kertaa matkustaessani joukkoliikennevälineillä Helsingissä ja sen kehyskunnissa. Iholleni on tultu, olen saanut ikäviä kommentteja koskien ulkonäköäni (koska olen vaalea, keski-ikäinen) huorittelusta lähtien. Tämä siis mena- (Middle East, North Africa) taustaisilta näyttäviltä miehiltä. En varmastikaan ole ainoa.

"Woke-ideologian mukaan etuoikeutettujen pitäisi myös välillä olla hiljaa ja kuunnella mitä vähemmistöillä on sanottavanaan. Kuuntelu on tietysti tärkeää, mutta sen pitää olla vastavuoroista."

Olen siis etuoikeutettu, koska olen syntynyt Suomeen, tehnyt lujasti töitä koulumenestykseni eteen ja kouluttautunut hyvään ammattiin. Tätäkö minun pitäisi pyytää anteeksi?

Woke-ideologia kategorisesti arvottaa ihmiset esimerkiksi ihonvärin, seksuaalisen suuntautumisen ja taloudellisen aseman mukaan. Sen mukaan minun pitäisi pitää suuni kiinni, jos vaikkapa mustaihoinen afrikkalainen näin haluaa.

Siinäpä sitä tasa-arvoa kerrakseen.

parhain terveisin

Ei nyt ehkä se maailman parhain hengentuote, mutta kun vaan taas kerran otti lujasti päähän.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 24.11.2021, 20:43:04
Quote from: Dangr on 23.11.2021, 20:55:39
QuoteMikael Jungner
Kuulemma woket pyrkivät hyvään, mutta kyseenalaisin keinoin.

Pieni tarkennus. Woke edustaa ikiaikaista pahuutta. Sitä joka poltti omaa mieltä olevia noitina. Sitä joka kavalsi vapaat ajattelijat stasille. Sitä joka haluaa tuhota toisen vain tunteakseen itsensä vähemmän pieneksi.

Juuri näin.

Tämä väitetty hyvään pyrkiminenhän oli Sannikan teesi, ja samaa monet toimittajat ovat väittäneet myös Elokapinasta. Lapsellinen ajatus ja valkopesua. Yhtä hyvin voisi lähestyä Leniniä tai Kiinan kulttuurivallankumouksen ohjailijoita näkökulmasta, että heillä oli hyvä tarkoitus, mutta meni pikkuisen överiksi. Että vallankumous sinänsä ihan ok, kun sanoo pyrkivänsä hyvään.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Fiftari on 24.11.2021, 21:00:35
Asiantuntijat miettivät että uskaltaako mennä julkisesti puhumaan rasismista??  :facepalm: Heiltä ei ole vaarassa lähteä työpaikka, elanto, ihmissuhteet jne. jos puhuu ihonväristä ja kuinka naurettavaksi syrjintä ja rasismikeskustelut ovat menneet. Joku vatipää alkaa uhkailemaan netissä, se on tuomittavaa ja siihen pitää reagoida, mutta käytännössä kutsut yleltä jatkuvat niin kauan kun jatkat rasismi dialogia. Jos olet taas tummaihoinen ja pidät nykyistä rasismikeskustelua naurettavana niin et saa kutsua minnekään ja "hyvät ihmiset"TM alkavat kutsua sitä sisäistetyksi rasismiksi.. joka muuten on älytön termi koska sisäistetty tarkoittaa jonkin asian omaksumista tai ymmärtämistä.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Antti Ruokolainen on 24.11.2021, 21:16:41
On ollut jo pitkään selvää että Karvala on suvakismin syvintä päätyä. On tosin sen verran fiksu että ei selvästikään tykittele niin paljon kuin tekisi mieli
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 24.11.2021, 21:21:37
Tuossa onkin kaikki tarpeellinen jo sanottu, mulla ei lisättävää tähän.

https://twitter.com/RivienV/status/1463233217222303746 (https://twitter.com/RivienV/status/1463233217222303746)

[tweet]1463233217222303746[/tweet]
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Histon on 24.11.2021, 21:34:50
Tuli mieleeni, että wokettajien suussa sanat kyllä kärsivät melkoisen inflaation. Jos neekeri-sanan käyttö Peppi-kirjoista puhuttaessa on "superjärkyttävää" niin mitä sitten esim. Ruandan kansanmurha oli?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 24.11.2021, 22:25:15
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/rasmus-ryn-hyllytetty-toiminnanjohtaja-ossi-mantylahti-en-puhuisi-enaa-canceloinnista-vaan-ideologisesta-puhdistuksesta/

QuoteRasmus ry:n hyllytetty toiminnanjohtaja Ossi Mäntylahti: "En puhuisi enää canceloinnista vaan ideologisesta puhdistuksesta"

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Hänen mukaansa woke-ajattelu on tullut viime aikoina vahvasti esiin.

– Aikaisemmin yhdistyksessä toivotettiin kaikki tervetulleiksi. Nyt muiden pitää olla hiljaa. Tekeminen tuntuu jopa elitistiseltä, kun vertalua tehdään esimerkiksi ihonvärin tummuuden perusteella.

Hän antaa konkreettisen esimerkin viimeaikaisesta linjan muutoksessa, jossa sivuutettiin reilu kilpailutus ihonvärin perusteella:

Olisi ollut ongelmallista, jos tilintarkastajaksi ei oltaisi valittu tummaihoista henkilöä.

Suomen Uutisten saamien tietojen mukaan yhdistys on saanut avustusta kulttuuriministeriöltä Kaamos-projektiin, jonka epäselvyyksiä tutkitaan tällä hetkellä viranomaisten kanssa. Palkattu projektijohtaja on tuhonnut suunnitelmat ja budjetit. Asian selvittäminen on kesken ja Suomen Uutiset kertoo siitä, kun asiasta saadaan lisää tietoja.
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Lihavointi minun.

Ihon tummuus pätevöittää tilintarkastajaksi Rasmus ry:ssä. Tämä lienee positiivista syrjintää eli rasismia, mutta kun kohde on oikea, niin mitä väliä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 24.11.2021, 22:52:19
Quote from: duc on 24.11.2021, 22:25:15
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/rasmus-ryn-hyllytetty-toiminnanjohtaja-ossi-mantylahti-en-puhuisi-enaa-canceloinnista-vaan-ideologisesta-puhdistuksesta/

QuoteRasmus ry:n hyllytetty toiminnanjohtaja Ossi Mäntylahti: "En puhuisi enää canceloinnista vaan ideologisesta puhdistuksesta"
Lihavointi minun.

Ihon tummuus pätevöittää tilintarkastajaksi Rasmus ry:ssä. Tämä lienee positiivista syrjintää eli rasismia, mutta kun kohde on oikea, niin mitä väliä.

Tuo rasmusporukka tulee tuhoamaan itsensä sisältä päin.

Sinne on, ei niin yllättäen, kehittymässä sellainen painostava ja jyrkän dogmaattinen poliittisesti korrekti kulttuuri, jossa kukaan tervejärkinen ei pitemmän päälle voi elää, ainakaan valkolaisena. Lienee jo nyt selvä, että mitään järkevää keskustelua ei voi rasmusverkon sisällä käydä ja tilanne voi vain pahentua kun "oikeaoppiset" nyt ovat saaneet jalan oven väliin ja haluavat lisää voittoja.

Veikkaan, että koko rasmussheisse tulee aika pian romahtamaan kun yhä useampi päättää jättää kultin hullujen fanaatikkojen tieltä.

Ei tosin olisi ensimmäinen kerta kun vasemmistolaiset tuhoavat itsensä. Vassarit ovat hyvä organisoitumaan, mutta he eivät oikeaoppisuudessaan lopulta tule toimeen kenenkään kanssa ja koko projekti joko hajoaa kokonaan tai luhistuu sisäisiin riitoihin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tsuudi on 24.11.2021, 22:53:21
Quote from: duc on 24.11.2021, 22:25:15
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/rasmus-ryn-hyllytetty-toiminnanjohtaja-ossi-mantylahti-en-puhuisi-enaa-canceloinnista-vaan-ideologisesta-puhdistuksesta/

QuoteRasmus ry:n hyllytetty toiminnanjohtaja Ossi Mäntylahti: "En puhuisi enää canceloinnista vaan ideologisesta puhdistuksesta"

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Hänen mukaansa woke-ajattelu on tullut viime aikoina vahvasti esiin.

– Aikaisemmin yhdistyksessä toivotettiin kaikki tervetulleiksi. Nyt muiden pitää olla hiljaa. Tekeminen tuntuu jopa elitistiseltä, kun vertalua tehdään esimerkiksi ihonvärin tummuuden perusteella.

Hän antaa konkreettisen esimerkin viimeaikaisesta linjan muutoksessa, jossa sivuutettiin reilu kilpailutus ihonvärin perusteella:

Olisi ollut ongelmallista, jos tilintarkastajaksi ei oltaisi valittu tummaihoista henkilöä.

Suomen Uutisten saamien tietojen mukaan yhdistys on saanut avustusta kulttuuriministeriöltä Kaamos-projektiin, jonka epäselvyyksiä tutkitaan tällä hetkellä viranomaisten kanssa. Palkattu projektijohtaja on tuhonnut suunnitelmat ja budjetit. Asian selvittäminen on kesken ja Suomen Uutiset kertoo siitä, kun asiasta saadaan lisää tietoja.
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Lihavointi minun.

Ihon tummuus pätevöittää tilintarkastajaksi Rasmus ry:ssä. Tämä lienee positiivista syrjintää eli rasismia, mutta kun kohde on oikea, niin mitä väliä.

Heh. Parasta tässä on, kun omat koirat purevat. Tästä on täällä hommalla puhuttu, ja taitaapa olla herra Mäntylahdenkin kohdalla kaikunut kuuroille korville. Kohtelen lähtökohtaisesti kaikkia ihmisiä samalla tavalla. Kohtelu muuttuu sen mukaan, miten ihminen käyttäytyy. Lisäksi tiettyihin viiteryhmiin suhtaudun varauksella, mutta kuitenkin niin, että annan yksilölle mahdollisuuden määritellä omalla toiminnallaan sen miten häneen suhtaudun. Ihminen on lopulta tekojensa ja valintojensa summa. Että en näe tätä ajatteluani Mäntylahden vastaaviin perusperiaatteiltaan niin kovin erilaisena. Minun ei kuitenkaan tämän takia tarvitse enkä halua, Rasmukseen liittyä. Ensinnäkään minun ei tarvitse alleviivata muka suvaitsevaisuuttani, koska en suvaitse perselyä tippaakaan naaman väriin katsomatta. Toisekseen tämä kulttuurimarksismi ja woke on olleet nähtävissä taustalla touhussa koko ajan, ja puhdistukset ennustettavissa. Tällä touhulla ei ole enää mitään tekemistä aidon tasavertaisen kohtelun kanssa.
Miten meni Mäntylahti noin niinkuin omasta mielestä?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 24.11.2021, 23:07:47
Quote from: Totti on 24.11.2021, 22:52:19
Quote from: duc on 24.11.2021, 22:25:15
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/rasmus-ryn-hyllytetty-toiminnanjohtaja-ossi-mantylahti-en-puhuisi-enaa-canceloinnista-vaan-ideologisesta-puhdistuksesta/

QuoteRasmus ry:n hyllytetty toiminnanjohtaja Ossi Mäntylahti: "En puhuisi enää canceloinnista vaan ideologisesta puhdistuksesta"
Lihavointi minun.

Ihon tummuus pätevöittää tilintarkastajaksi Rasmus ry:ssä. Tämä lienee positiivista syrjintää eli rasismia, mutta kun kohde on oikea, niin mitä väliä.

Tuo rasmusporukka tulee tuhoamaan itsensä sisältä päin.

Sinne on, ei niin yllättäen, kehittymässä sellainen painostava ja jyrkän dogmaattinen poliittisesti korrekti kulttuuri, jossa kukaan tervejärkinen ei pitemmän päälle voi elää, ainakaan valkolaisena. Lienee jo nyt selvä, että mitään järkevää keskustelua ei voi rasmusverkon sisällä käydä ja tilanne voi vain pahentua kun "oikeaoppiset" nyt ovat saaneet jalan oven väliin ja haluavat lisää voittoja.

Veikkaan, että koko rasmussheisse tulee aika pian romahtamaan kun yhä useampi päättää jättää kultin hullujen fanaatikkojen tieltä.

Ei tosin olisi ensimmäinen kerta kun vasemmistolaiset tuhoavat itsensä. Vassarit ovat hyvä organisoitumaan, mutta he eivät oikeaoppisuudessaan lopulta tule toimeen kenenkään kanssa ja koko projekti joko hajoaa kokonaan tai luhistuu sisäisiin riitoihin.

Sieltä tullaan siivoamaan pois kaikki jatkuvasti tiukentuvaa puhdasoppisuutta vähänkään kritisoivat, etenkin jos ovat valkoisia. Kovaäänisimpien puhdasoppisten woke-pappien ja väritoteemien lisäksi sinne tulee jäämään valkoisia yes-miehiä ja -naisia hyödyllisiksi idiooteiksi niin kauan kuin kultti voi hyötyä heistä. Tarpeen tullen heitä voi sitten heitellä bussin alle. Osa ei opi silloinkaan vaan jatkavat jossain muussa porukassa edelleen puhdasoppista wokea kannattaen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 25.11.2021, 01:32:35
Uutta trendiä pukkaa... alkaa olla vaikeaa nimetä rikoksiakin kohta.

'Looting' is now racist to the left - 'The Five' break down the pitfalls of playing 'word police'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/looting-is-racist-the-five-reacts

Joe Concha on San Francisco mass looting: Nancy Pelosi's never held accountable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4MC1RNPD64

In the wake of a rash of lootings around San Francisco, the left is calling the use of the term "looting" - you guessed it - racist.

The hosts of "The Five" on Tuesday said liberals are showing how misplaced their priorities are with their focus on race and word games.

"Liberals are more focused on not hurting the feelings of smash-and-grab gangs than getting tough on crime," "The Five" co-host Jesse Watters said.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Charlie on 25.11.2021, 10:39:43
Mahtavia nää hullut jenkit.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 25.11.2021, 20:48:51
Quote from: Roope on 24.11.2021, 20:43:04
Quote from: Dangr on 23.11.2021, 20:55:39
QuoteMikael Jungner
Kuulemma woket pyrkivät hyvään, mutta kyseenalaisin keinoin.

Pieni tarkennus. Woke edustaa ikiaikaista pahuutta. Sitä joka poltti omaa mieltä olevia noitina. Sitä joka kavalsi vapaat ajattelijat stasille. Sitä joka haluaa tuhota toisen vain tunteakseen itsensä vähemmän pieneksi.

Juuri näin.

Tämä väitetty hyvään pyrkiminenhän oli Sannikan teesi, ja samaa monet toimittajat ovat väittäneet myös Elokapinasta. Lapsellinen ajatus ja valkopesua. Yhtä hyvin voisi lähestyä Leniniä tai Kiinan kulttuurivallankumouksen ohjailijoita näkökulmasta, että heillä oli hyvä tarkoitus, mutta meni pikkuisen överiksi. Että vallankumous sinänsä ihan ok, kun sanoo pyrkivänsä hyvään.

Tulipa käännettyä osia, ainakin vähän sinnepäin, ketjun ensimmäisellä sivulla olleesta James Lindsayn kirjoituksesta "Psychopathy and the Origins of Totalitarianism". Tuossa tuodaan mielestäni varsin hyvin esiin woke-liikkeen todellinen luonne. Monet kohdat kirjoituksesta on myös helppo yhdistää viime aikojen(kin) tapahtumiin.

https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/ (https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/psychopathy-origins-totalitarianism/)

QuotePsykopatia ja totalitarismin alkuperä

Monet ihmiskunnan historian suurimmista kauhuista johtuivat yksinomaan valheellisen todellisuuden kehittämisestä ja yhteiskunnallisesta pakottamisesta. Kiitollisina katoliselle filosofille Josef Pieperille ja hänen tärkeälle vuoden 1970 esseelleen "Kielen väärinkäyttö, vallan väärinkäyttö", voimme viitata näihin vaihtoehtoisiin todellisuuksiin ideologisina pseudotodellisuuksina.

Pseudotodellisuudet, niiden ollessa valheellisia ja epätodellisia, synnyttävät aina tragediaa ja pahuutta mittakaavassa, joka on vähintään verrannollinen niiden valtaan ja levinneisyyteen (...) aina sotaan, kansanmurhaan ja jopa sivilisaation romahtamiseen asti, joista kaikki voivat turhaan viedä miljoonia ihmishenkiä, ja tuhota lisäksi monia miljoonia muita fiktion tavoittelussa, johon uskovat ovat, tai heidät tehdään riittävän suvaitsemattomiksi.

    Pseudotodellisuuksien luonne

Pseudotodellisuudet ovat yksinkertaisesti sanottuna valheellisen todellisuuden rakennelmia. Toivottavasti on ilmeistä, että pseudotodellisuuksien piirteisiin kuuluu se, että niiden on esitettävä uskottava, mutta tarkoituksella väärä käsitys todellisuudesta. Ne ovat kulttitodellisuutta (...)

Pseudotodellisuudet ovat aina sosiaalisia fiktioita, mikä edellä mainitun valossa tarkoittaa poliittista fiktiota. Toisin sanoen niitä ei ylläpidetä siksi, että ne ovat totta, siinä mielessä, että ne vastaisivat todellisuutta, joko aineellista tai inhimillistä, vaan siksi, että riittävä määrä ihmisiä yhteiskunnassa, jota kohtaan ne hyökkäävät, joko uskoo niihin tai kieltäytyy haastamasta niitä. Tämä merkitsee sitä, että pseudotodellisuudet ovat kielellisiä ilmiöitä ennen kaikkea, ja kun valtaa antavia kielellisiä vääristymiä esiintyy, on todennäköistä, että ne ovat olemassa jonkun pseudotodellisuuden luomiseksi ja levittämiseksi. Tämä tarkoittaa myös sitä, että niiden säilyttäminen vaatii valtaa, pakottamista, manipulointia, ja lopulta myös voimaa. Siten ne ovat psykopaattien luonnollinen leikkikenttä, ja pelkurit ja rationalisoijat mahdollistavat niiden esiintymisen. Mikä tärkeintä, pseudotodellisuudet eivät yritä kuvata todellisuutta sellaisena kuin se on, vaan pikemminkin sellaisena kuin sen "pitäisi olla", suhteellisen pienen väestönosan määrittämänä, jotka eivät kestä elämää todellisuudessa, ellei sitä ole vääristetty mahdollistamaan heidän omia psykopatologioitaan, jotka he heijastavat heidän vihollisiinsa, mikä tarkoittaa kaikkia normaaleita ihmisiä.

(...) Pseudotodellisuudessa maalaisjärki leimataan ennakkoluuloksi tai jonkinlaiseksi vääräksi tietoisuudeksi, ja tiede korvataan tieteisyydellä, joka itsessään on vallan työkalu. (...)

On huomioitava, että ihmiset, jotka hyväksyvät pseudotodellisuudet ikään kuin ne olisivat "todellisia", eivät ole enää normaaleja ihmisiä. He omaksuvat ja korvaavat todellisuuden pseudotodellisuudella, ja mitä perusteellisemmin he tämän tekevät, sitä psykopaattisempia ja epänormaalimpia heistä tulee. Nähdessään heidät normaaleina ihmisinä, mitä he eivät ole, normaalit ihmiset ymmärtävät täysin väärin pseudotodellisuudessa elävien ihmisten motiivit – vallan ja oman ideologiansa levittämisen niin, että kaikki joutuvat elämään kyseisessä pseudotodellisuudessa. Yleensä siihen asti, kunnes on jo aivan liian myöhäistä.

Tämän ymmärryksen puutteen seurauksena monet, erityisesti liberaalit ja moraalisesti avoimet ihmiset tulkitsevat pseudotodellisuuden väitteet uudelleen joksikin, mikä on uskottavaa tavanomaisen ajatteluamme ohjaavan logiikan ja moraalin pohjalta, ja tämä uudelleentulkinta toimii pseudorealistien hyödyksi, jotka ovat saaneet kyseiset ihmiset ansaan. Tämänkaltaiset ihmiset, jotka seisovat todellisen maailman ja pseudotodellisuuden välissä, ovat hyödyllisiä idiootteja ideologialle (...)

Pseudotodellisuuksilla voi olla eritasoista uskottavuutta vääristyneissä todellisuuden kuvauksissaan, ja siksi ne voivat värvätä eri määrän kannattajia. Niiden sanotaan usein olevan saavutettavissa vain "teoreettisen linssin" avulla, erikoistuneen "tietoisuuden" herättämisen tai jonkin patologisen uskon muodon avulla. Olipa kyse "linssistä", "tietoisuudesta" tai "uskosta", nämä intellektuellit rakenteet ovat olemassa, jotta pseudotodellisuus näyttäisi uskottavammalta, houkuttelisi ihmiset osallistumaan siihen vastoin tahtoaan ja erottamaan ne, jotka "näkevät", "ovat hereillä" tai "uskovat" niistä, jotka eivät. Tai, kuten aina lopulta tapahtuu, eivät suostu näkemään, olemaan hereillä tai uskomaan. Toisin sanoen ne ovat tekosyy tai peruste sanoa ihmisille, jotka elävät todellisuudessa pseudotodellisuuden sijaan, että he eivät katso "todellisuutta" oikein. Mikä siis tässä kohtaa tarkoittaa pseudotodellisuutta. Tätä luonnehditaan tyypillisesti eräänlaiseksi tahalliseksi pseudotodellisuuden ymmärtämättömyydeksi, jota myöhemmin kuvaillaan paradoksaalisesti tiedostamattomaksi toiminnaksi. Huomaa, että tämä asettaa episteemisen ja moraalisen vastuun taakan todellisuudessa asuvalle henkilölle, ei henkilölle, joka korvaa sen absurdilla pseudotodellisuudella. On ymmärrettävä, että tämä on pseudorealistien keskeinen manipulointitapa. Kyky tunnistaa tämä mekanismi sen ilmetessä ja vastustaa sitä, on laajassa mittakaavassa sivilisaatioiden elämää ja kuolemaa.

(...) Mitä mukavampi, suvaitsevaisempi ja hyväntahtoisempi yhteisö on, jos sillä ei ole kykyä havaita näitä valheellisuuksia varhaisessa vaiheessa, sitä alttiimpia sen jäsenet ovat näille manipuloinneille.

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    Pseudotodellisuudet ja valta

Pseudotodellisuuden kehittämisen perimmäinen tarkoitus on valta, jota rakennettu pseudotodellisuus antaa monin tavoin. Vaikka näitä tapoja on monia, erityisesti muutama on mainittava. Ensinnäkin pseudotodellisuus on aina rakennettu siten, että se lähtökohtaisesti hyödyttää niitä, jotka omaksuvat sen, verrattuna niihin, jotka eivät sitä hyväksy, usein ilmeisen kaksoisstandardin ja kielellisten moraaliansojen kautta. Kaksoisstandardit tässä suhteessa suosivat aina niitä, jotka hyväksyvät pseudotodellisuuden todellisuutena, ja syrjivät aina niitä, jotka etsivät totuutta. Menestyäkseen ja tavoitteensa toteuttaakseen ideologisen pseudotodellisuuden täytyy syrjäyttää todellisuus riittävän laajalti. Kielelliset ansat käyttävät usein hyväkseen sanojen strategisia kaksoismerkityksiä (...)

Toiseksi, pseudotodellisuus demoralisoi kaikki, jotka joutuvat tekemisiin sen kanssa, pelkästään sen tosiasian vuoksi, että se on valhetta, jota on käsiteltävä totuutena. Emme saisi koskaan aliarvioida, kuinka psykologisesti heikentävää ja vahingollista on, että joutuu käsittelemään totuutena jotain, mikä ei ole totta. Vaikutuksen luonnollisesti kasvaessa, mitä valheellisempi pseudotodellisuus on. Huolimatta siitä, että pseudotodellisen vääristymän ilmeisyys vahvistaa sen demoralisoivaa voimaa, pseudotodellisuus on uskottava vain silloin, kun vääristymä ei ole välittömästi ja täysin läpinäkyvä ja myös silloin, kun se on riittävän laajalti yhteiskunnallisesti hyväksyttyä, että siitä tulee sosiaalisesti rakennettu pseudototuus (oma huomautus: esim. rakenteellinen rasismi). Olipa vääristymä ilmeistä vai ei, sen luoma tilanne on kuitenkin kaikkein demoralisoivin niille, jotka näkevät sen läpi, koska pseudotodellisuuden vääristymien esiintuominen niille, jotka eivät vielä näe niitä, on aina poikkeuksellisen työlästä ja sitä vastustetaan kiivaasti, ei pelkästään pseudotodellisuuden kannattajien vaan myös hyödyllisten idioottien taholta.

Siten, kolmanneksi, näyttämällä, että näennäisesti "vakavat" ihmiset eivät välitä totuudesta, he onnistuneesti pakottavat normaalit ihmiset tarkistamaan pseudotodellisuuden osia jopa kieltäessään sen, saamalla normaalin ihmisen kohtaamaan ideologian osittain (oma huomautus: kun pitäisi aina ja joka tilanteessa todeta vain sen olevan täysin idioottimaista ja psykopaattista sontaa). Tämä siis vahvistaa ajatusta siitä, että pseudotodellisuus voisikin olla totta. Toisin sanoen monet normaalit ihmiset eivät ymmärrä, että pseudotodellisuus on valheellinen, koska he ulottavat normaalin ihmisen käsitteen kaikkiin, riippumatta siitä, ovatko he normaaleja vai eivät.

Tämä dynamiikka vaatii lyhyen selvityksen. Normaalit ihmiset eivät yleensä ymmärrä, että rikkinäistä logiikkaa ja kieroutunutta moraalia käytetään tukemaan ideologista näkemystä – pseudotodellisuutta – ja että siinä olevien (tai sen panttivankina olevien) ihmisten mielentilat eivät ole normaaleja. Jotkut heistä, varsinkin hyvin, mutta eivät poikkeuksellisen älykkäät, tulkitsevat näin taitavasti uudelleen pseudorealististen ideologien absurdit ja vaaralliset väitteet ymmärrettäviksi ja järkeväksi, vaikka ne eivät itse asiassa ole ymmärrettäviä tai järkeviä. Tämä puolestaan tekee pseudotodellisuudesta uskottavamman kuin se todellisuudessa on ja naamioi entisestään ideologisten pseudorealistien esittämiä vääristymiä ja taustalla olevaa valtaa. (...)

    Huomautus ideologiasta

Kun nyt puhumme ideologioista, on tehtävä selväksi ennen kuin jatkamme, että "ideologialla" tarkoitetaan tässä jotain lähempänä "kultti-ideologiaa" olevaa, kuin termin yleisempää merkitystä. On ratkaisevan tärkeää tehdä ero näiden välillä, jotta emme sekoita niitä laaja-alaisia lähestymistapoja todellisuuden hahmottamiseen ja ymmärtämiseen, jotka synnyttävät todellisen ymmärtämisen, niihin, jotka on kehitetty pseudotodellisuuksia varten.

Liberalismi voidaan esimerkiksi tulkita ideologiaksi, mutta sitä ei voida pitää kultti-ideologiana, koska se alistaa itsensä totuudelle puutteistaan huolimatta. (...) Niinpä siinä ei esiinny mitään niistä psykopaattisista suuntauksista, joita ilmaantuu hyvin säännöllisesti sellaisten ideologioiden yhteydessä, jotka ovat riippuvaisia jonkin hyödyllisen mutta valheellisen pseudotodellisuuden luomisesta ja ylläpidosta.

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    Pseudotodellisuudet kielipeleinä

(...) Pseudotodellisilla maailmanrakentajilla on tapana manipuloida ihmisiä heidän haavoittuvuuksiensa pohjalta, mikä on kulttirekrytoinnin tunnettu tosiasia. Siten ne ovat tehokkaimpia sellaisten ihmisten kohdalla, joilla on taustalla psykologinen, tunne- tai henkinen sairaus, erityisesti sellainen, joka istuu huonosti todelliseen maailmaan ja sen sisältämiin sosiaalisiin todellisuuksiin. Kuten todettua, manipulointi on myös usein kohdistettu psykologisesti, emotionaalisesti ja henkisesti alttiisiin sekä naiiveihin, vihaisiin ja loukkaantuneisiin. Juuri sellaisissa mielissä pseudorealistiset manipulaatiot ovat tehokkaimpia ja voivat luoda huomattavan sympatiapohjan muuten normaaleiden ihmisten joukossa, joista osa hairahtuu kaikkiin projektin taustalla oleviin psykopatologioihin. (...)


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    Akateemiset pseudo-todellisuudet


Ottaen huomioon sen tosiasian, että he ovat manipuloivien ihmisten työkaluja, jotka osoittavat suurta vallanjanoa ja kielitaitoa, pseudorealistit pyrkivät kohdistamaan toimintansa (porvarilliseen) ylempään keskiluokkaan, jonka toimeentulo riippuu eniten heidän saamasta tunnustuksesta ja ikätovereiden hyväksynnästä, ja erityisesti korkeimmin koulutettuihin, vaikkakaan ei kaikkein pätevimpiin heidän joukossaan. Poikkeuksellisen suuri osa tällaisista henkilöistä työskentelee koulutuksessa, mediassa, politiikassa ja erityisesti yliopistoissa. (Voimakkaimmat ja vaarallisimmat ideologiset pseudotodellisuudet ovat niin absurdeja, että vain akateemikot voivat niihin todella uskoa.) Koska se on kielellinen ja sosiaalinen rakennelma, pseudotodellisuuden piirteisiin kuuluu, että se mahdollistaa tunnustuksen saamisen ja hyvän urakehityksen tämän tyyppisissä ammateissa paljon voimakkaammin kuin muissa, mikä luo pseudorealistien tavoitteita suosivan kannustinrakenteen.

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Tämä pseudorealistisen kultismin piirre vahvistuu, kun kohde hyväksyy yhä enemmän pseudotodellisuuden lähtökohtia ja irtautuu siten yhä kauemmaksi todellisuudesta ja siinä elävästä normaalista ihmisestä. Näin pseudotodellisuus hitaasti vangitsee kannattajansa, joilla ei ole juuri mitään pakomekanismia, vaikka ideologiset poistumisrampit olisivat selvästi nähtävissä. (...) Vääristyneellä logiikalla, joka ei pysty enää havaitsemaan todellisuutta muutoin kuin valheellisena, heillä ei ole tarvittavia episteemisiä resursseja haastaa ideologiaa, edes omissa ajatuksissaan. Käänteisellä moraalilla, joka näkee pahan hyvänä ja hyvän pahana pseudotodellisuuden orjamoraalin mukaisesti, heidän koko sosiaalinen ympäristönsä on ehdollistettu pitämään heidät helvetissä, jonka portit on lukittu sisältä. Siten ymmärtääksemme ideologisia pseudotodellisuuksia ja yrittääksemme keksiä jotain, mitä voimme tehdä niille, on tarpeen tarkastella niiden sisäistä logiikkaa ja moraalijärjestelmiä yksityiskohtaisemmin.


    Ideologinen paralogiikka


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Pseudotodellisuuden paraloogisuuden rooli rinnakkaisena (todellisen) logiikan kanssa on ratkaisevan tärkeää ymmärtää. Se johdattaa (hyvin) älykkäät, harkitsevat ihmiset, jotka hylkäävät täysin pseudotodellisuuden – mutta jotka kuitenkin jäävät enimmäkseen tietämättömiksi sen paraloogisesta rakenteesta – kantamaan vettä sen omaksuneiden ideologien puolesta normalisoimalla sitä samalla, kun he leimaavat todelliset ja asiantuntevat kriitikot huonoiksi ihmisiksi. Itse asiassa nämä (hyvin älykkäät) ihmiset luovat savuverhon laajemmalle normaalille yleisölle, mikä saa pseudotodellisuuden näyttämään paljon järkevämmältä ja sidotummalta todellisuuteen kuin se itse asiassa on. Tämä (hyvin älykkäiden) ihmisten älyllinen manipulointi on ratkaiseva tekijä minkä tahansa pseudotodellisuuden levittämisessä, koska vain harvat tosiuskovaiset ne todella omaksuvat. On huomattava, että kukaan ei ole tässä hyödyllisempi ja sopivampi kuin koulutettu tai tunnustettu liberaali, joka voi menettää paljon, jos muut hyödylliset idiootit leimaavat hänet huonoksi ihmiseksi.

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    Ideologinen paramoraalisuus

Edellä mainitun paraloogisen rakenteen rinnalla, jolla hyödylliset idiootit siis huijataan puolustamaan ideologista pseudotodellisuusprojektia, on myös tehokas näennäistä moraalista ulottuvuutta käyttävä sosiaalisen toimeenpanon työkalu. (...) Paramoraalisuuden tavoitteena on vahvistaa sosiaalisesti näkemystä, että hyvät ihmiset hyväksyvät paramoraalin ja siihen liittyvän pseudotodellisuuden, kun kaikki muut ovat moraalisesti puutteellisia ja pahoja. Toisin sanoen se on käänteinen moraali, orjamoraali, jota Nietzsche kuvailee kirjassaan Genealogy of Morals.

Koska paramoraalisuus on itse asiassa moraalitonta, pseudotodellisuuteen osallistuvat kokevat ideologisen paramoraalin voimakasta, yleensä totalitaarista täytäntöönpanoa. Tällä tavalla luodaan tarvittava sosiaalinen paine valheen ja sen moraalittoman järjestelmän ylläpitämiseksi. Ja vastaavasti, hyväksikäytön kierteen mukaisesti he käyttävät sitten samoja periaatteita ja taktiikoita (para)moralisoidakseen normaaleja ihmisiä pseudotodellisuuden ulkopuolella, ja lopulta paljon voimakkaammin. (...) Jälleen voidaan todeta, että tämä on pseudorealistisen ohjelman todellinen alkemia; se muuttaa normaalit, moraaliset ihmiset moraalittomiksi toimijoiksi, joiden on tehtävä pahaa tunteakseen olonsa hyväksi ja nähdäkseen pahoina ne, jotka tekevät hyvää.

(...) Siten paramoraalisuus näkee vain kahdenlaisia ihmisiä: ne, jotka hyväksyvät pseudotodellisuuden ja korvaavat todellisen moraalin sen paramoraalisuudella, sekä ne, jotka eivät selvästikään halua utopiaa (ja joiden täytyy siksi haluta kärsimyksen maailmaa). Tässä suhteessa paramoraalisessa järjestelmässä ei ole neutraalisuutta, ja kaikki harmaan sävyt muuttuvat alkemiallisesti aidoksi mustaksi ja pseudotodelliseksi valkoiseksi. Siten pseudorealistin paramoraalisuudessa on joko täysin vankkumaton tuki ja kannatus tai käsittämätön (paralogisessa järjestelmässä) ja turmeltunut (paramoraalissa) halu nähdä loputon jatkumo niille pahoille asioille, joita ei enää olisi sen jälkeen, kun utopia on (teknisesti ei koskaan) saavutettu. Jos tällainen näkökanta / vaatimukset saavan riittävän suuren jalansijan, niin takuuvarma lopputulos on vihainen moralisointi, joka lopulta oikeuttaa väkivallan, myös laajamittaisen.

Tämä takaa, että ideologisen pseudotodellisuuden paramoraalisuus tulee aina olemaan tukahduttavaa ja totalitaarista. Erimielisyyttä ja epäilystä ei voida sietää, ja poikkeavat mielipiteet on suljettava moraaliseen kuoppaan, jota kannattajat eivät uskalla lähestyä. (...) Näiden valerakenteiden on tarkoitus siirtää yksipuolisesti valtaa ideologeille, jotta heidän pseudotodellisuutensa voi vahvistua.

(...) Toisin sanoen se on tietyntyyppinen moraalin vääristely, joka voi tuntua moraalisemmalta, mutta on itse asiassa paha. Tämä johtuu siitä, että paramoraalisuus toimii pseudotodellisuuden, ei todellisuuden, puolesta ja on siten psykopatian alue, joka normaaleihin massoihin kohdistettuna on pahaa. Paramoraalisuuden tavoite muodostuu ja on aina olemassa sellaisten ihmisten suosimiseksi, joilla on tietty psykopatologia ja jotka eivät muuten pysty selviytymään todellisuuden epämukavuudesta. Tämä tarkoittaa, että ideologisen pseudotodellisuuden menestynein tapa saada voimaa on vetoamalla näiden ihmisten koettuun uhri-mentaliteettiin, sekä piiskaamalla ja kärjistämällä samanlaisia epäoikeudenmukaisuuksia arvokkaammin kohdanneiden tuntemuksia. Kun tällainen on laajalle levinnyttä, sitä tulisi käsitellä toisena oireena lähestyvästä sivilisaation onnettomuudesta ja tarpeesta tunnistaa ja hylätä näitä tunteita manipuloiva pseudotodellisuus.

Pseudotodellisuuksia ylläpitävät langat

Täysin liioittelematta voi todeta, että pseudotodellisuutta ei voida ylläpitää ilman äsken kuvattujen asiaankuuluvien paralogisten ja paramoraalisten käsitteiden tiukkaa soveltamista ja täytäntöönpanoa.  (...)

    Psykopatia ja pseudotodellisuus

(...) Jos otamme askeleen taaksepäin tarkastellaksemme harhaanjohtavaa kultistiamme, josta koko analyysi alkoi, voimme havaita toisen tärkeän seikan ideologisten pseudotodellisuuksien luonteesta, johon on tähän asti toistuvasti vihjailtu: On helppo havaita, että tämä hypoteettinen henkilö ei vain voi olla, vaan luultavasti on jossain määrin psykopaattinen, hänen levittäessään kultti-ideologiaa ja siihen liittyvää pseudotodellisuutta. Pseudotodellisuus ei ole määritelmän mukaisesti tervejärkisten aluetta, ja oman sairautensa pakottaminen toisiin ihmisiin omaksi hyödykseen, erityisesti manipuloimalla heidän haavoittuvuuksiaan, on niin lähellä yksinkertaista, yleistä psykopatian määritelmää kuin vai voi kuvitella.

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Huolestuttavinta on se, että psykopaattiset ideologiat synnyttävät todistetusti (tilapäistä mutta) toiminnallista psykopaattisuutta muuten normaaleissa ihmisissä, joista tulee näiden manipulaatioiden avulla riittävän vakuuttuneita ideologian puolestapuhujia ja sen kannattajia. Aivan kirjaimellisesti, demoralisoinnin suorien vaikutusten ja sen epävakauden, joka johtuu heidän uskomustensa kasvavasta ajautumisesta pois todellisuudesta ja kohti epätodellisuutta (pseudotodellisuutta), psykopaattinen ideologia saa lisäksi sympatiseeraajansa uskomaan ja toimimaan itse psykopaattisilla tavoilla, ainakin toiminnallisesti. Nämä ovat paralogiikan (jotta ei olisi "tyhmä" pseudotodellisuudessa) ja paramoraalisuuden (jotta ei olisi vääränlainen ihminen pseudotodellisuudessa) ylläpitämisen vaatimuksia ja hinta, ja hitaasti näistä ideologian uhreista tulee itsestään sellaisia hirviöitä, joita vastaan he olivat liian heikkoja taistellakseen. Kuten aiemmin todettiin, hyveitä, kuten suvaitsevaisuutta ja empatiaa, vääristetään tarkoituksella, kunnes niillä on poliittinen toiminnallinen arvo (paramoraalisuus hyvä, moraali huono), joka suosii yhä enemmän pseudotodellista ideologiaa ja joka muuttuu psykopaattiseksi vaikutuksen vahvistuessa.

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Tärkeää on huomata, että tämä seikka viittaa siihen, että sen lisäksi että kultti-ideologian keskivertomatkaaja ei yleensä ymmärrä olevansa kultisti, joka käyttää manipulointivälineitä ja -taktiikoita (paralogisia ja paramoraalisia) ihmisiin heidän elämässään, sekä normaaleihin että ideologisesti heränneisiin kulttitovereihin, he eivät edes voi ymmärtää tätä ilman, että he ensin hylkäävät heidät vanginneen paralogisuuden ja paramoraalin, sekä hylkäävät ideologisen pseudotodellisuuden perustavanlaatuisella tavalla. He eivät ole vain toiminnallisesti psykopaattisia, vaan myös todellisuuskäänteisiä sillä tavoin, että he ajattelevat että kaikki normaalit ihmiset, jotka eivät (vielä) ole kultisteja, ovat kultisteja, kun taas he itse eivät ole. Tämä edustaa täydellistä tervejärkisyyden kääntymistä, ja normaalin muuttuminen ideologisesti psykopaattiseksi on siinä vaiheessa valmis. Nämä ihmiset, kuten monet ovat oppineet kovalla tavalla historian aikana, ovat niitä muuten hyviä ihmisiä, jotka kykenevät toteuttamaan kansanmurhia.

    Lankojen leikkaaminen

Mikä sitten voisi olla vastaus tähän vaaralliseen ja ikuiseen sotkuun? Onneksi ainakin ensimmäinen askel on hyvin yksinkertainen. Se on pelkkä tietoisuus. Se että oppii tunnistamaan rakennetun pseudotodellisuuden sellaisena kuin se on – keinotekoisena todellisuuden simulaationa, joka ei sovellu ihmisyhteiskunnille – ja alkaa jyrkästi torjua kaikki vaatimukset osallistua siihen. (...)

Tämä voidaan tehdä vain oppimalla tarpeeksi tunnistaakseen taktiikat, puhumalla totuuden puolesta ja kieltäytymällä tulemasta pakotetuksi osallistumaan yhä hegemonisempaan pseudotodellisuuteen ennen kuin se saavuttaa totalitaarisen vallan. Käytännössä tämä voidaan tehdä kahdella yksinkertaisella tavalla. Toinen on pseudotodellisuuden haastaminen/kumoaminen ja toinen sen hylkääminen.

Useimmille ihmisille jälkimmäinen näistä on helpompi kuin edellinen, ja se vaatii vähemmän. Tahdonvoima ja luonne riittävät. (...)

Pseudotodellisuuden kumoaminen on vaikeampaa, koska se vaatii paljon tarkempaa tietoa sekä taitoa, luonteenvoimakkuutta ja rohkeutta. Se on myös tehtävä, ainakin jonkun, jos ideologinen pseudotodellisuus on jo ehtinyt juurtua. Tällainen pseudotodellisuus on osoitettava mahdollisimman monelle ihmiselle vääräksi todellisuudeksi, toisin sanoen tuhoisaksi fiktioksi. (...)

Yleensä tämä prosessi ei myöskään ole mukava ja vaatii valtavaa rohkeutta, juuri sellaista, jonka ideologinen demoralisointi on erittäin tehokas syövyttämään ja hiljentämään. Paraloginen tulkitsee suoran erimielisyyden tyhmäksi tai hulluksi, ja paramoraalisuus luonnehtii sitä pahaksi (tai pahojen aikomusten motivoimaksi, vaikka ne olisivat tiedostamattomia). Rohkeus kestää näitä törkeitä loukkauksia ja panetteluja sekä kantaa sen epäoikeudenmukaiset yhteiskunnalliset seuraukset on siksi välttämätön edellytys totalitarismin pysäyttämiselle. On ymmärrettävää, että useimmat eivät valitse tätä polkua, mutta varoitus on paikallaan: mitä kauemmin odotetaan, sitä pahemmaksi tämä menee.

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(...) Selkärankaa saa lisää oivaltamalla, että kun pseudotodellisuus syrjäyttää todellisuuden jopa vain muutaman prosentin väestönosalla, kysymys ei ole enää siitä, meneekö tilanne huonoksi, vaan siitä, kuinka huonoksi se menee ennen kupla poksahtaa. Todellisuus voittaa aina, ja tuho tulee olemaan suhteellinen valheen suuruuteen, joten on parempi toimia ennemmin kuin myöhemmin. Pitää ymmärtää, että tilanne pahenee siihen asti, kunnes todellinen vastus nousee, ja sitten kivisen siirtymän jälkeen se alkaa parantua. Toiminnan aika on siis nyt.

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 25.11.2021, 22:28:09
Quote from: zupi on 24.11.2021, 12:07:12
Ihan mielenkiintoinen twiittiketju. Siinä tuodaan esiin vähän sitä, mistä Hommallakin on ollut juttua, että tuo wokehimmeli tuskin juurikaan leviäisi, ellei globaali valtaeliitti ajaisi sitä kovalla voimalla. Koska hyperkapitalistinen ja kommunistinen yhteiskunta / järjestelmä on loppupeleissä aika samantyyppinen.

Niille enemmän äänivaltaa, jotka äänestävät oikein:

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Tuo Ontarion opettajien äänestyssysteemi on valtavan hieno. Alkuperäisväestön ja tumman väestön edustajille 50% kaikista äänistä, koska muuten demokratia sanelee, että valkoiset päättää. Juutalaisista tai japanilaisista ei puhuta tuossa mitään.

Ajatelkaa aikaa, kun Jani Toivola oli ainoa värillinen eduskunnassa. Tuolla Ontarion menetelmällä Janilla yksin olisi ollut 50% äänivallasta lainsäädännössä. Ei olisi tarvittu kuin yksi kansanedustaja sairaslomalle ja Jani olisi yksin päättänyt kaiken. Jos kaikki muut olisivat äänestäneet Jania vastaan, niin puhemiehen ääni olisi kait sitten ratkaissut. Miettikää sellaista Ontarion wokeopettajien unelmaeduskuntaa. Kaikki päätökset tekee Jani Toivola yksin tai sitten kaikki muut yhdessä. Mutta jos eduskunnan puhemies on valkoinen, hänen äänestään pitää myös puolet antaa Janille. Muutenhan olisi mahdollista, että valkoinen ylivalta kävelisi hänen ylitseen.

Maailma on sairas.

-i-
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 25.11.2021, 23:25:19
^ kertokaas mulle millä ihmeellä on tuollainen äänestyssysteemi saatu aikaan?
Noh, Kait on painostettu eli uhkailtu oikeita ihmisiä oikeaan aikaan. Mutta kuten -i- sanoit, maailma on sairas, se on myös paha. Ja joku viisas on sanonut, että pahan pitää antaa mennä loppuun asti, että hyvä pääsee taas kukkimaan. Historia toistaa näköjään itseään, "hyvyyden" tyrannia on näköjään alkamassa, samoin kuin Pietarissa se alkoi 1917.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 26.11.2021, 09:01:08
Aamun jälkiviisaissa Ville Blåfeld, Kreeta Karvala ja Anu Partanen.

Keskustelivat Valtaoja-ohjelmasta.

Ville Blåfeld sanoi varmaan kaksikymmentä kertaa ohjelmassa "me valkoiset", "meidän valkoisten tulisi", "meille valkoisille se on ..."

Kun minä olin koulussa ja käytettiin sanaa neekeri, sanottiin myös, että ollaan tasa-arvoisia, niitä ei saa kiusata eikä tuijottaa. Ja että kaikki pitää ottaa leikkiin mukaan.

Tänä päivänä tiedostavaisto hokee omaa valkoisuuttaan ja toisten erilaisuutta ja vaatii meitä pelaamaan leikkejä vähemmistön ehdoilla. Ilmeisesti tällä pedataan sitä, että kehitysmaalaiset halutaan pyyhkimään pyllyjä ja maksamaan eläkkeemme ja pitämään kadut siistinä ja ajamaan bussia kun Massa tulee baarista, oksentaa ja sotkee ja hänet pitää saada kotiin. Aamulla Kunta Kinte tuo Wolt-repussaan silliaamiasen krapulaiselle Massalle.

Mutta palatakseni jälkiviisaisiin. Kovasti se Blåfeld hoki omaa "meidän" valkoisuuttaan. Minä en kyllä tunnusta Blåfeldin tavoin hänen valkoisuuttaan, jota hänen piti niin esille tuoda. Partanenkin yhtyi "me valkoiset" lauluun. Karvala oli ainoa, joka puolusti Valtaojaa. Blåfeld piti Valtaojaa mulkkuna, kun oli älykäs mies alkanut leikkimään tyhmää, kun oli sanonut näin sanoin (toisti sen ainakin kahdesti tunnekuohussaan tuo Blåfeld): "minä en kyllä yhtään ymmärrä mitä sinä puhut". Kuulemma olisi pitänyt ymmärtää ja ymmärtää.

Onneksi Karvalakin sanoi, että myös hän putosi pari kertaa kärryiltä tuon wokettajan tunnekuohussa, eikä enää ymmärtänyt mistä kenkä puristaa.

Mutta kyllä se on tuo laitavasemmiston hurahtaneisto, joka koko ajan hokee ihonväriä.

Oikeastaan olen ylpeä juuri nyt perussuomalaisista, kun puhutaan uskonnoista ja kulttuureista, muttei ihonväristä tai geeneistä. Vasemmisto on se, joka jatkuvasti yhdistää kulttuurin ihonväriin.

-i-

MUOKS: Ja se suomen kieli. Yllä myös näen jotain mitä siinä ei lue.
Ostiko Kreetakin turkispäähineen, eli
Ostiko Karvalakin karvalakin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: VesaH on 26.11.2021, 09:31:04
Jos on olemassa intersektionaalista feminismiä, onko myös intersektionaalista sovinismia?

"Valkoihoinen, lihaa syövä heteromies" on kolminkertaisesti sorrettu. Vihervasemmisto haluaa sortaa ei-tummaihoisia, ei-kasvissyöjiä, ei-homoja.

Aivan kuten kansallismielinen oikeisto hyökkää mustaihoisen lesbonaisen kimppuun kolmelta suunnalta: ihonväri, sukupuoli ja seksuaaliset mieltymykset.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Köhösen Keijo on 26.11.2021, 09:42:37
Omasta mielestäni olen selvittänyt viimein, että mitä on intersektionaalinen feminismi. Se on tapa lähteä väittelystä voittajana joka kerta. Ennen sitä voi sanoa tai kirjoittaa aivan mitä vaan sekavaa, kunhan vastaväittelijät ei vaan ymmärrä siitä yhtään mitään. Jos meinaa jäädä alakynteen, niin intersektionaalisella feminismillä on siihenkin ratkaisu: "turhaan mä tässä sitä teille selittelen, kun ette näytä ymmärtävän. Kannattaa lukea vaikka tuo" ja viitata siihen heidän omaan raamattuunsa, mistä kukaan ei ota myöskään selvää.

Toisin sanoen se tarjoaa näille herkille ja vähän yksinkertaisille mahdollisuuden olla kadottamatta omaa mielenterveyttään näissä keskusteluissa, mistä he eivät lopulta ymmärrä yhtään mitään. Voi lähteä twitter-väittelystä ylpeänä tapaamaan terapeuttiaan, kun on vielä muut lahkon jäsenet takana kertomassa, että sä jauhotit ne.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tavan on 26.11.2021, 10:11:09
Quote from: Mäyräkoira on 25.11.2021, 23:25:19
Ja joku viisas on sanonut, että pahan pitää antaa mennä loppuun asti, että hyvä pääsee taas kukkimaan.

Näin se on. Jeesuksenkin piti antaa pahuuden juonien mennä päätyyn asti; antautua juutalaisten vihalle, Juudaksen petokselle, Pilatuksen selkärangattomuudelle, kidutukselle ja kuolemalle, jotta maailmalle saattoi tulla pelastus.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 26.11.2021, 11:35:48
Quote from: Köhösen Keijo on 26.11.2021, 09:42:37
Omasta mielestäni olen selvittänyt viimein, että mitä on intersektionaalinen feminismi. Se on tapa lähteä väittelystä voittajana joka kerta. Ennen sitä voi sanoa tai kirjoittaa aivan mitä vaan sekavaa, kunhan vastaväittelijät ei vaan ymmärrä siitä yhtään mitään. Jos meinaa jäädä alakynteen, niin intersektionaalisella feminismillä on siihenkin ratkaisu: "turhaan mä tässä sitä teille selittelen, kun ette näytä ymmärtävän. Kannattaa lukea vaikka tuo" ja viitata siihen heidän omaan raamattuunsa, mistä kukaan ei ota myöskään selvää.

Toisin sanoen se tarjoaa näille herkille ja vähän yksinkertaisille mahdollisuuden olla kadottamatta omaa mielenterveyttään näissä keskusteluissa, mistä he eivät lopulta ymmärrä yhtään mitään. Voi lähteä twitter-väittelystä ylpeänä tapaamaan terapeuttiaan, kun on vielä muut lahkon jäsenet takana kertomassa, että sä jauhotit ne.


Voi se olla tuotakin mutta tässä hieman omia (sekavia) ajatuksia tästä aiheesta. - Intersetionaalisessa feminismissä ja siis ilmeisesti tässä woke-ilmiössä on kysymys vain ja ainoastaan mielivallasta. Ei tarvitse pitää tunnin keskusteluohjelmia ja kirjoittaa kymmeniä sivuja artikkeleita, joista tätä ilmiötä selitellään parhain päin vaan sen voi typistää yhteen sanaan. Mielivalta. .

Valkoiset ihmiset, jotka tätä aatetta edistävät koostuvat tiukasta ytimestä ja ympärillä pörräävistä wanna be better person -tyypeistä. Tuo tiukka ydin taas näyttäisi koostuu entisistä Taistolaisista ja heistä suoraan alenevasta vihervasemmistosta. Pirun vaarallista porukkaa noin historiallisesta perspektiivistä tarkkaillen. Lisäksi tässä skenessä pyörii aktiivisesti näitä muita edunsaajia, kuten esimerkiksi tämä Renaz Ebrahimi, joka on selvästi löytänyt hunajaämpärin josta voi vapaasti ammentaa makeaa itselleen. Hänen uhriasemansa on varsin kyseenalainen.

Media on jo tämän ilmiön pyörteissä ja mielivallaksi tuota voi kutsua siksikin, että Esko Valtaojan tapainen sivistynyt herrasmies lynkataan julkisesti, ilman tarkempia tutkimuksia. Mutta varsinkin siksi, että woke-media nielee Renaz Ebrahimin väitteet kyseenalaistamatta niitä ollenkaan. Väitetään että Esko on 1) etuoikeutettu 2) eikä hänen ole tarvinnut vastata teoistaan. Siis toisin kuin ilmeisesti Renaz Ebrahimi?! No, jokainen järkevä ihminen tajuaa heti, että nämä tämän kaustin kaksi keskeistä väitettä on pelkkää hevonpaskaa. Nämä väitteethän perustelevat sen miksi Esko valtaoja ei saanut sanoa sanaa Neekeri, ja häne oli syytä canseloida. Siksi väitteet ovat merkitseviä.

Mietin hiukan niiden perustaa:

1) Esko Valtaoja ei ole sen enempää etuoikeutetumpi kuin Renaz Ebrahimikaan, heillä molemmilla on tasa-arvoiset mahdollisuudet toteuttaa itseään Suomessa. Jos väen väkisin halutaan nähdä eroja näiden kahden henkilön mahdollisuuksissa niin on helppo nähdä että tämä tyhjäpää nimeltä Renaz Ebrahimi on selvästi paremmassa asemassa. Hän on saanut hyväpalkkaisen työn sen ansiosta, että on vähemmistöön kuuluva henkilö ja vieläpä nainen. Hän on Yleisradion lemmikki samaan tapaan kuin Husu oli(ennekuin valehteli liikaa jopa ylelle), vaikka molempien tilalle olisi ollut tarjolla satoja lahjakkaampia suomalaisia vaihtoehtoja. Eli helposti voisi sanoa, että Renaz Ebrahimi on etuoikeututempi kuin Esko, joka on varmasti tehnyt pitkän päivätyön asemansa eteen ja joutunut kilpailemaan tasapäisesti monien kanssa paikasta auringossa. Ts. esko ei ole saavuttanut asemaansa olemalla valkoinen heteromies.

Lisäksi Renaz Ebrahimilla on etuoikeus jos vertaa häntä kanssasisariinsa Iranissa. Näihin vertaamalla Renaz Ebrahimi näyttäytyy varsin etuoikeutetulta ja voisi kuvitella että jos hän on niin pyhä ja hyvä ihminen kuin esittää, niin hän suuntaisi energiansa oman kansansa olojen parantamiseen sensijaan että vinkuu itselleen aina vain lisää etuoikeuksia. Renaz Ebrahimi on valinnut jälkimmäisen tien.

Ja vielä lisäksi, jos halutaan hakea oikeutusta tälle woke-paskalle historiasta ja satojen vuosien vääryyksistä, niin on enemmän kuin todennäköistä että Renaz Ebrahimi häviää tämänkin vertailun Eskolle. Suomalaisten ovat kautta historian olleet orjan asemassa milloin millekin valtakunnalle. Suomalaisia on riistetty, ihmisiä tapatettu muiden sodissa tai tapettu muuten vain, omaisuutta varastettu jne. Se, että Suomi on noussut kukoistukseensa viimeisen viidenkymmenen-sadan vuoden aikana ei ole häpeän vaan ylpeyden aihe.

2) Väite että Esko Valtaoja ei ole joutunut vastaamaan teoistaan on hiukan ongelmallinen. Uskon että tähän liittyy jotain rasismiulinaa jota en osaa hahmottaa.

Tätä voi kuitenkin tarkastalle vaikka sillä lailla, että vertaillaan miten suomalaisessa yhteiskunnassa suhtaudutaan miesten kyseenalaisiin tekoihin?

Esimerkkinä, miten vaikka valkoisia miehiä kohdellaan jos he vertaavat huumorilla naisia ja autoja? Audimies vertasi mainoksessa näitä kahta ja sai osakseen canseloinnin ja potkut työpaikastaan. Jos mietitään miten muslimimiehiin suhtaudutaan jos he säkittävät vaimonsa, silpovat tyttärensä eivätkä edes suostu kättelemään naisihmisiä huomataan melkoinen ero? Muslimimiehet pidetään sorrettuina kaiken tuollaisen käytöksen jälkeen.

Eli uskoisin että tässäkin mielessä Eskolla ja muilla valkoisilla on selvästi tiukempi käyttäytymisnormi ja vastuu kuin Renaz Ebrahimilla ja hänen viitekehyksensä miehillä. Jos intersektionaalista feminismiä toteutettaisiin Renaz Ebrahimin spekseillä niin olisi täyttä mielivaltaa jos Esko Valtaojan yhteiskunnallinen oikeus sanoa asioita ääneen olisi jotenkin pienempi kuin näiden säkittäjien.

Yhtä kaikki. Mielestäni Esko ja muut suomalaiset ovat yhtä oikeutettuja sanomaa neekeri-sanan suorassa tv-lähetyksessä kuin Renaz Ebrahimin on oikeutettu sanomaan sen musiikin yhteydessä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: VesaH on 26.11.2021, 13:17:04
Taidan ruveta harrastamaan sleep-kulttuuria. Kun akateeminen vasemmistolainen "rasisminvastustaja" aloittaa meuhkaamisensa, pistän sekä korvat että silmät kiinni. Ei jaksa kuunnella eikä kommentoida.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Charlie on 26.11.2021, 18:16:48
Ette usko, minkä ilmaisun Warwickin yliopisto on kieltänyt. Vielä vuosi-pari sitten kannatettiin sisältövaroituksen (trigger warning) ilmoittamista, jos puhui mistä tahansa, joka saattaisi herättää kuulijassa jonkun aasinsillan kautta ikäviä tuntemuksia. No nyt se kielletty! Tässä kohdin sitä luulisi että vihdoinkin jotain rotia. Vaan ei. Se kiellettiin siksi, että sana trigger (liipasin) voi herättää niitä tuntemuksia. :o Eikä ole edes aprillipäivä, varmistin kalenterista.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1524789/warwick-university-latest-political-correctness-trigger-warnings-snowflake-students

QuoteUniversity bans term 'trigger warnings' as even the phrase could upset snowflake students

[...]

Like many universities, Warwick uses the term to alert students to sensitive material including racism, homophobia and violence.

This allows students to prepare themselves for some potentially unpleasant experiences.

However, in a Freedom of Information request, the university has revealed "trigger warnings" will now be referred as "content notes".

This is due to the word "trigger" being itself a "provocative" word, the MailOnline reported.

[...]
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: VesaH on 26.11.2021, 18:23:55
"Nigger warning" ? Vai yhtymäkohta ampumiseen? Kummasta tässä on kyse?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Charlie on 26.11.2021, 18:30:29
^ Tuskin ovat varmoja itsekään... Veikkaan kuitenkin jälkimmäistä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 26.11.2021, 19:25:58
Tämän jutun mukaan:  Kanadan valtion tieteellistä tukea jakava taho hylkäsi kemian professorin rahoituspyynnöt ennen tieteellistä arviointia, koska tämä ilmoitti palkkausperusteidensa perustuvan puhtaasti meriitteihin ja hakijan innostuksesta työhön.  Perusteluna hylsylle oli tasa-arvon, moninaisuuden ja inkluusion puutteellinen huomioiminen hakemuksessa: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/minority-professor-denied-grants-because-he-hires-on-merit-people-are-afraid-to-think
QuoteAn award-winning Canadian scientist said he has been refused two federal government grants for his research on the grounds of "lack of diversity" — even though he is originally from India and has repeatedly suffered racism.
Patanjali Kambhampati, a professor in the chemistry department at Montreal's McGill University, believes the death knell for the latest grant was a line in the application form where he was asked about hiring staff based on diversity and inclusion considerations. He says his mistake was maintaining that he would hire on merit any research assistant who was qualified, regardless of their identity.
QuoteBut his application for a $450,000 grant this month from the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada (NSERC) was turned down because, the council said, "the Equity, Diversity and Inclusion considerations in the application were deemed insufficient."
His grant application a year ago to the federally funded National Frontiers in Research Fund  — whose object is "to support world-leading interdisciplinary, international, high-risk/high-reward, transformative and rapid-response Canadian research" — was also turned down on similar grounds.
Because both applications were rejected at the bureaucratic level, it means that neither proceeded to the step where they would be forward to other scientists to review Kambhampati's proposals.

Mitenköhän Suomessa?  Vahtiiko Suomen Akatemia tasa-arvon, moninaisuuden ja inkluusion toteutumista tukemissaan laboratorioissa? Jerry Coyne on myös kommentoinut tapausta: https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2021/11/26/canadian-government-denies-mcgill-professor-grants-on-the-grounds-that-his-mandatory-dei-statements-describe-color-blind-hiring-based-on-merit/

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 26.11.2021, 20:48:09
Quote from: räsänen on 26.11.2021, 11:35:48

Voi se olla tuotakin mutta tässä hieman omia (sekavia) ajatuksia tästä aiheesta. - Intersetionaalisessa feminismissä ja siis ilmeisesti tässä woke-ilmiössä on kysymys vain ja ainoastaan mielivallasta. Ei tarvitse pitää tunnin keskusteluohjelmia ja kirjoittaa kymmeniä sivuja artikkeleita, joista tätä ilmiötä selitellään parhain päin vaan sen voi typistää yhteen sanaan. Mielivalta. .

Samoja huomioita ja olen samaa mieltä mielivallasta. Kyse on eräänlainen kauhea sekasikiö hämmentävästä käsitteistöstä ja tunteiden ylivallasta. Tuossa aiemmin jäsen zupin viestissä käytettiin pseudotodellisuuden käsitettä ja sekin on erittäin osuva. Koska se on kuitenkin ilmiönä mielenkiintoinen, ajattelin hieman tutkia ja kirjoittaa auki Ebrahimin ja Valtaojan "keskustelua" köyhän miehen argumentaatio- ja käsiteanalyysillä. Ei tähän hirveästi kannata tosiaan aikaansa tuhlata.

Quote from: Toimittaja Renaz Ebrahim @ YLE Sannikka 19.11.2021 klo 18"tää on ensinnäkin ihan superjärkyttävää, että mä oon tällasessa tilassa missä valkonen ihminen, niinku, ruskeen ihmisen vieressä kaks kertaa käyttää n-sanaa, niinku, ihan tahalleen. Niin tää on musta ensinnäkin todella epämukava, todella epäsensitiivinen, turvaton tila tällä hetkellä, et on tosi ikävää että oon tässä tilassa,  joudun tähän keskusteluun tällä tavalla."Mut tää on just se ongelman ydin, et vähätellään jatkuvasti niit ihmisii, joita satutetaan, joita sorretaan, ja sen takii me ei päästä näis keskusteluissa koskaan eteenpäin, koska SULLA on epämukava olla, koska SÄ et haluu ottaa vastuuta, ja SÄ et haluu muokata sun tapoja tehdä asioita, koska etuoikeutettuna ihmisenä sä oot saanu todennäkösesti koko elämäs vaan tehdä asioita ilman, et sä joudut vastuuseen niistä. Toisin sanoen, toisin kuin minä esimerkiks, olen pienestä pitäen oppinut elämään maailmassa, jossa mä joudun jatkuvasti miettiin mitä mä saan tehdä, mitä mä saan sanoa, mitä sanoja mä voin käyttää, mitä sanoja musta käytetään. Eli, mä.. öööää, tavallaan mulle, toi ei oo ongelma miettiä mitä sanoja mä käytän. Jos mä loukkaan jotain ihmistä, mä sillon otan sen asian huomioon, kyse, sillon mä en voi vaan miettiä sitä, että mä oon oikeessa, mä en oo tehny mitään väärin, vaan se, että jos mä loukkaan sua, [osoittaa Valtaojaa sormella] jos mä esimerkiks lyön sua, nyt, löisin sua, ja sä sanot että mua sattuu, niin ehän mä voi sanoa että ei toi voi sattua. Sähän määrittelet sen että sua sattu, ja sillon mun tehtävä on korjata se teko."

Eli, keskustelun konteksti oli se, että Valtaoja perustelee miksi hänen mielestään latautuneet sanat ovat kontekstisidonnaisia.

Toimittelija järkyttyy kun valkoihoinen käyttää kahdesti n-sanaa (esittää väitteen (1), että n-sana loukkaa, ei erityisiä perusteluja pl.
emotionaalisesti latautunut sisältö) ->
toteaa kokevansa tilan turvattomaksi ja epäsensitiiviseksi keskustelussa (väite (2), jota perustellaan emotionaalisin argumentein) ->
toteaa ongelman ytimen olevan sorrettujen ja satutettujen ihmisten vähättely (väite (3), laajentaa väitettä 2 subjektiivisuudesta yhteiskuntaa koskevaksi) ->
toteaa edellä olevan aiheutuvan keskustelun vastapuoleen liittyvistä väitetyistä ongelmista: tunnereaktioista, vastuuttomuudesta, joustamattomuudesta (väite 4, joka voidaan muotoilla: yhteiskunnassa tapahtuva vähättely ja keskustelun etenemättömyys on Valtaojan syytä) ->
toteaa itse pystyvänsä tekemään toisin kuin vastapuoli (väite 5, mikä esitetään siten että se toimii perusteluna väitteelle 4) ->
rinnastaa esiin tuomansa satuttavan vähättelyn fyysiseen väkivaltaan (väite 5) -> argumentti: jos ihminen määrittelee itseänsä sattuvan millä tahansa
tavoin, se on absoluuttisesti totta ja velvoittaa vastapuolen korjaamaan teon.

Kun katsotaan argumentaatio- ja käsiteanalyysin silmin, mitä Ebrahim tekee, paljastuu joitakin mielenkiintoisia seikkoja sen ilmiselvyyden lisäksi, että jo yhteen pitkään wokeilijan puheenvuoroon mahtuu sellainen määrä hupiukkoilua ettei analysoijaa naurata. Valtaojan perustellessa, miksi loukkaavat sanat ovat kontekstista riippuvaisia,Ebrahim luo väitteillään ikään kuin uuden, subjektiivisemman keskustelun (osittain myös metakeskustelun, kun viitataan koko rasismikeskusteluun) pohjautuen tunnereaktioille (väite 1). Tätä hän perustelee tunteisiin vetoavalla argumentaatiolla (2) eli tunteisiin vetoavilla käsitteillä; erityisesti käsite ""turvaton" on hyvin mustavalkoinen, sillä se jakaa "tilan" turvalliseen tai turvattomaan. Sana turvaton on jo lähtökohtaisesti voimakkaasti emotionaalisesti latautunut, ja useimmiten negatiivisella tavalla, esim. käsiteparissa "turvaton lapsuus". Käsitteet "todella epämukava" ja "todella epäsensitiivinen" antavat ymmärtää, että muut tilassa eivät huomioi keskustelijaa oikealla tavalla tai jopa loukkaavat keskustelijaa. Tälle Ebrahim ei anna perusteluja, eikä vastapuolella mahdollisuutta kysyä niitä.

Kannattaa myös kiinnittää huomiota käsitteeseen turvaton tila. Se on käsitteenä mielestäni ristiriitainen, paradoksaalinen jopa. Koska Ebrahim ei määrittele tarkemmin, mitä se tarkoittaa, ei voida tietää, tarkoittaako hän fyysistä tilaa, turvattomuuden subjektiivista tunnetta eli mielentilaa vaiko tilaa abstraktissa mielessä, eräänlaista metafyysistä tilaa keskustelussa. Tai jonkinlaista yhdistelmää näistä. Koska on kuitenkin vaikea tavoittaa, kuinka yhden n-sanan perusteella fyysinen tila muuttuisi, voidaan olettaa että hän tarkoittaa joko subjektiivista, kokemaansa tunnetta tai sitten abstraktia keskustelutilaa. Edelleen, koska abstraktilla keskustelutilalla ei ole tunteita (tämän argumentaation haluaisin kyllä kuulla!) tai kykyä kokea turvattomuutta, jäljelle jää subjektiivinen tunnekokemus. Mikä herättää kysymyksen, miksi ylipäätään sanoa turvaton tila, kun voi vain todeta kokevansa turvattomuutta. Koko "tila" on silmänlumetta, se ei tuo lisäarvoa keskusteluun vaan lähinnä aiheuttaa hämmennystä.

Lisäisin vielä, työskenneltyäni toista vuosikymmentä ihmisten väliseen vuorovaikutukseen liittyvässä työssä, että kehonkielestä, eleistä, ilmeistä, puherytmistä  ja äänensävystä päätellen - siinä määrin, jota videossa on nähtävillä - Ebrahimin nopea reaktio ja monologimainen, kiihkeä puheenvuoro ovat hieman ristiriidassa sen kanssa, että hän oletettavasti toivoisi tilan palautuvan turvalliseksi ja sensitiiviseksi sen jälkeen, kun siitä on ollut hänen väitteensä mukaisesti turvaton ja epäsensitiivinen. Kyseisellä vuorovaikutustyylillä käytännössä turvallisuutta on kyllä vaikea saavuttaa.

Quote from: Toimittaja Renaz Ebrahim @ YLE Sannikka 19.11.2021 klo 18"Mut tää on just se ongelman ydin, et vähätellään jatkuvasti niit ihmisii, joita satutetaan, joita sorretaan, ja sen takii me ei päästä näis keskusteluissa koskaan eteenpäin, koska SULLA on epämukava olla, koska SÄ et haluu ottaa vastuuta, ja SÄ et haluu muokata sun tapoja tehdä asioita, koska etuoikeutettuna ihmisenä sä oot saanu todennäkösesti koko elämäs vaan tehdä asioita ilman, et sä joudut vastuuseen niistä."

Viestinnässä puhutaan usein minä- ja sinä-viesteistä, joista edellinen yleensä toimii rakentavasti ja vuorovaikutusta harmonisoiden. Jälkimmäinen, eli sinä-viesti, puolestaan saa yleensä ottaen vastapuolen puolustuskannalle. Tässä kyseisessä sinä-viestissä on monta ongelmaa. Ebrahim tässä lauseessa luo salakavalasti (hataran)  yhteyden kokemansa subjektiivisen superjärkyttävyyden ja laajemman yhteiskunnallisen ihmisten vähättelyn välille. Hän kirjaimellisesti vierittää vastuun keskustelujen etenemättömyydestä Valtaojan suuntaan, ja syyttää Valtaojaa siitä, ettei hän halua ottaa vastuuta eikä muokata tapojaan tehdä asioita. Perusteluksi hän antaa vain tämän: "koska etuoikeutettuna ihmisenä sä oot saanu todennäkösesti koko elämäs vaan tehdä asioita ilman, et sä joudut vastuuseen niistä." Tämä yksinkertaisesti ja sivistyneesti ilmaistuna kertoo Ebrahimin vaikeudesta suhteuttaa asioita. Väitteet ovat täysin kohtuuttomia. Jäsen räsänen jo avasikin niitä viestissään joten ei siitä sen enempää.

Huomautan, kuinka tässäkin lauseessa Ebrahim käyttää emotionaalisesti latautunutta retoriikkaa. Jos vielä mietitään muita retorisia keinoja, niitä olisivat ainakin toisto, vastakohtaistaminen, superlatiivit,  ns. suostuttelumääritelmä eli kuulija suostutellaan uskomaan asia todeksi, kun se vain ilmoitetaan tosiasiana (lyhyessä keskustelussa monimutkaisia asioita on mahdotonta käsitellä niiden vaativalla tarkkuudella). Tämä tietynlainen retoriikka vaikuttaa olevan aika yleinen keino woke-piireissä, luultavasti siksi, että se toimii, varsinkin lyhyellä tähtäimellä. Kuitenkin pidemmällä aikavälillä ideologian ristiriidat ovat niin ilmiselviä, että kokonaisuus hajoaa ennemmin tai myöhemmin sisäisiin ristiriitoihin, mutta kuinka paljon vahinkoa tapahtuu sen ulkopuolelle, on erillinen kysymys.

Subjektiivista tunnekokemusta käytetään myös Ebrahimin puheenvuorossa eräänlaisena todisteena sen puolesta, että yhteiskunnassa todella tapahtuu sorrettujen ja satutettujen ihmisten vähättelyä. Voi sinänsä hyvin pitääkin paikkansa, että vähättelyä tapahtuu. Kuitenkin on vaikea nähdä loogista yhteyttä siten kuin Ebrahim esittää. Subjektiivinen tunnekokemus voi sinänsä olla "totta" siinä mielessä, että sen kokijalle tuntemus on todellinen. Sen sijaan tunnereaktio antaa hyvin vähän objektiivista tietoa subjektin ulkopuolisesta maailmasta. Tulevat minulle kuitenkin hakematta mieleen kognitiiviset vinoumat, jotka altistavat yksilön taikauskoiselle, tunteita faktisina tosiasioina pitävälle ajattelulle.

TL;DR: toimittajan katsellessa sivusta wokeilija suoltaa käsittämättömän määrän hevonpaskaa ja valtaoja yrittää päättää nielläkö vaiko ei, mutta on myöhässä
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 26.11.2021, 21:04:13
Olipa hyvä analyysi, yhden kysymyksen voisin tehdä, oliko Renaz Ebrahim monologi, vastauksena Esko Valtaojan käyttämään sanaan mielestäsi jotenkin tunnesidonnainen, siis Renazin sen hetkiseen tunnetilaan liittyvä, vai jopa osin ulkoa opeteltu sarja sanoja joita vaikkapa hän voi käyttää heti..tullessaan "turvattomaan tilaan"?,,siis hänen itsensä (Renazin) tulkitsemaan tilaan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Phantasticum on 26.11.2021, 21:17:22
Quote from: räsänen on 24.11.2021, 07:36:23
Quote from: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 21:31:19
Tämä keskustelu on alleviivannut sitä kuinka voimakas ase sana neekeri meille on.

Ja juuri siksi itse aioin pitää tiukasti kiiinni oikeudestani lausua sanan neekeri, samaan tapaan kuin Teemu Keskisarja. Sitä sanaa ei ole kielletty laissa ja muutama tärähtänyt idiootti ei minulta sitä oikeutta vie. Vasta kun neekerisana on kielletty Suomen laissa, en sitä enää käytä.

Ei ole kielletty. Vielä. Toivon, että kansalaisaloite no. 9004 saisi maksimaalista julkisuutta ja tarvittavat 50 000 kannatusilmoitusta, jotta aloite etenisi eduskunnan käsiteltäviksi. Voisiko Leveli ottaa asian omakseen? Tai Homma?

Voi sitä kiemurtelua ja kaartelua, kun eduskunta joutuisi pohtimaan aloitteessa mainitun sanan kriminalisointia. Kuka edustajista sanoisi sanan ääneen ja kuka taas ei? Millaisia kiertoilmaisuja asian käsittely vaatisi? Miten eri puolueet tai yksittäiset kansanedustajat äänestäisivät ja miten he puolustaisivat omaa kantaansa? Millaisia rangaistuksia sanan käytöstä jaettaisiin? Käytäisiinkö oikeutta vai olisiko rangaistuksena pelkkä poliisin antama rikesakko? Kuka valvoisi lain noudattamista? Entä voisiko valtakunnansyyttäjä tehdä räsäset tämänkin lakipykälän kohdalla.

En ole osannut päättää, kumpi olisi parempi. Se, että kansalaisaloite ei menestyisi vai se, että kansalaisaloite menestyy ja kansalaisaloitteessa mainitun sanan käytöstä tulee rikollinen teko.

Kansalaisaloite.fi: N-sanan käyttö on kriminalisoitava (23.9.2021) (https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/9004)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 26.11.2021, 22:03:52
Quote from: simppali on 26.11.2021, 21:04:13
Olipa hyvä analyysi, yhden kysymyksen voisin tehdä, oliko Renaz Ebrahim monologi, vastauksena Esko Valtaojan käyttämään sanaan mielestäsi jotenkin tunnesidonnainen, siis Renazin sen hetkiseen tunnetilaan liittyvä, vai jopa osin ulkoa opeteltu sarja sanoja joita vaikkapa hän voi käyttää heti..tullessaan "turvattomaan tilaan"?,,siis hänen itsensä (Renazin) tulkitsemaan tilaan.

Mielestäni jälkimmäinen vaihtoehto on todennäköinen, sillä kyseinen verbaalinen reaktio tuli häneltä lähes välittömästi ja nopealla puhetahdilla, kun hän sai puheenvuoron. Jos kuuntelette tarkasti, äänensävy heti monologin alussa oli lisäksi määrätietoisempi ja rennompi kuin monologin polveillessa eteenpäin, jolloin oli havaittavissa lievää hermostuneisuutta/vireystilan nousua. On mahdollista, että Renaz puhuu aina nopeasti. Keskimääräiselle suomalaiselle kuuntelijalle uskoakseni puheenvuoron esittäjä kuvautui ainakin lievästi kiihtyneenä.

Tämä on tietenkin subjektiivista, mutta minulle tämä puheenvuoro (ja jotkin kohdat keskustelussa myöhemmin) loi samankaltaisen vaikutelman kuin mitä esimerkiksi täsmällistä repliikkiään valmistellut ammattimainen poliitikko voisi käyttää silloin, kun pitää tarttua vastustajan puheenvuoroon (sisälsi se virheitä tai ei). Renaz ehkä itsekin huomasi tehokkaan aloituksen jälkeen, että puheenvuoro alkaa rönsyillä, mikä selittäisi lievän hermostuneisuuden lisääntymisen.

Pitää kuitenkin muistaa, että yksittäisen puheenvuoron perusteella ei voi tehdä kovin pitkälle meneviä johtopäätöksiä. Journalistit ovat myös yleensä harjaantuneita puhujia ja kykenevät verbaalisesti pureutumaan keskustelussa kiistanalaisiin asioihin, tämä usein vaatii kykyä sivuuttaa epämiellyttävätkin tunteet ja keskittyä asiaan. En tiedä, kuinka laaja journalistinen kokemus Renazilla on. Kuitenkin, Renaz päätti keskittyä aivan muihin asioihin kuin mistä Valtaoja keskusteli.

Tunnereaktiosta on tässä mahdotonta puhua ilman puuttumista turvattomuuteen. Yleensä jos ihminen kokee tunnetasolla olevansa turvaton, siihen liittyvät väistämättä pelko ja usein myös ahdistus. Tarkennuksena, 'turvattomuus' on mielestäni melko voimakas käsite. Sitä voidaan suhteuttaa siten, että lapsi voi kokea voimakasta turvattomuutta, johon liittyy avuttomuutta, surua, yksinäisyyttä, voimattomuutta, kyvyttömyyttä jne. Aikuisella ihmisellä turvattomuuden kokemus on sen sijaan huomattavasti harvinaisempi, koska aikuinen ihminen kykenee psyykkisesti säätelemään itseään huomattavasti paremmin kuin lapsi. Aikuisella turvattomuuden kokemus juontaa yleensä johonkin lapsuuden traumaan ja jokin merkittävä kriisi voi aktivoida vanhat tunnemuistot. Tällöin aikuinen voi joutua lapsuuden tunnetilaa vastaavaan tunnetilaan ja kokea äkillisesti suhteetonta avuttomuutta suhteessa omiin psyykkisiin voimavaroihinsa.

Oli miten oli, minun on vaikea uskoa, että Renaz kokisi voimakkaasti turvattomuutta ja sitten käyttäytyisi sitten kuten käyttäytyi. Voi toki olla, että hän määrittelee turvattomuuden eri tavalla kuin useimmiten tehdään. Kuitenkin, mikäli yksi n-sana aiheuttaa turvattomuuden tunteen aikuisessa ihmisessä, se on melko huolestuttavaa,  ja tarkoittaa sitä että -- ilman muita vaikuttavia tekijöitä -- psyykkinen itsesäätelyjärjestelmä ei toimi kuin sen pitäisi.

Jotta asia ei olisi liian yksinkertainen, yleensä turvattomuuteen liittyy myös pelko. Pelko luo epävarmuutta ja vaikeuttaa sekä analyyttistä ajattelua että selkeää itseilmaisua. Tämä useimmilla ihmisillä vaikuttaa myös ei-verbaaliin viestintään kuten kasvojen ilmeisiin, vartalon asentoihin (ryhti voi muuttua alistuvaksi tai kyyristyneeksi, sisäänpäin kääntyneeksi), maneereihin, äänensävyyn (usein ääni hiljenee tai on emotionaalisesti araksi tai pelokkaaksi värittynyt, ahdistuneena lisäksi ääneen tulee kireyttä jännityksestä johtuen, tai epätoivoa ja lohduttomuutta, jne.). Tällaisia merkkejä ei ollut puheenvuorossa havaittavissa, sen sijaan Renazin ilme vaikutti päättäväiseltä, monologi tuli esille hyvin nopeasti ja ilman suurempia takelteluja, ja äänensävy oli hyvin määrätietoinen. Lisäksi Renazin käyttämä sormella osoittaminen sanalliseen viestiin yhdistettynä oli varsin hyökkäävä ele - turvattomuutta ja pelkoa kokeva ihminen käyttäytyisi yleensä ottaen näin vasta sen jälkeen, kun pelon jälkeen mielen valtaa suuttumus (uhka pitää neutraloida). Mikäli näin olisi, jätän lukijoiden pääteltäväksi, mistä tämä voi kertoa.

Yksittäistä vuorovaikutustilannetta tarkastellessa pitää kuitenkin aina muistaa, että ihmisen tunnetila ja se, miten se heijastuu ulkopuolelle tai käytökseen, eivät kulje käsi kädessä. Suuren yleisön edessä, kuten valtakunnallisessa tv-studiossa, toiset ihmiset toimivat luontevammin kuin toiset.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 26.11.2021, 22:23:54
Quote from: Phantasticum on 26.11.2021, 21:17:22
Quote from: räsänen on 24.11.2021, 07:36:23
Quote from: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 21:31:19
Tämä keskustelu on alleviivannut sitä kuinka voimakas ase sana neekeri meille on.

Ja juuri siksi itse aioin pitää tiukasti kiiinni oikeudestani lausua sanan neekeri, samaan tapaan kuin Teemu Keskisarja. Sitä sanaa ei ole kielletty laissa ja muutama tärähtänyt idiootti ei minulta sitä oikeutta vie. Vasta kun neekerisana on kielletty Suomen laissa, en sitä enää käytä.

Ei ole kielletty. Vielä. Toivon, että kansalaisaloite no. 9004 saisi maksimaalista julkisuutta ja tarvittavat 50 000 kannatusilmoitusta, jotta aloite etenisi eduskunnan käsiteltäviksi. Voisiko Leveli ottaa asian omakseen? Tai Homma?

Voi sitä kiemurtelua ja kaartelua, kun eduskunta joutuisi pohtimaan aloitteessa mainitun sanan kriminalisointia. Kuka edustajista sanoisi sanan ääneen ja kuka taas ei? Millaisia kiertoilmaisuja asian käsittely vaatisi? Miten eri puolueet tai yksittäiset kansanedustajat äänestäisivät ja miten he puolustaisivat omaa kantaansa? Millaisia rangaistuksia sanan käytöstä jaettaisiin? Käytäisiinkö oikeutta vai olisiko rangaistuksena pelkkä poliisin antama rikesakko? Kuka valvoisi lain noudattamista? Entä voisiko valtakunnansyyttäjä tehdä räsäset tämänkin lakipykälän kohdalla.

En ole osannut päättää, kumpi olisi parempi. Se, että kansalaisaloite ei menestyisi vai se, että kansalaisaloite menestyy ja kansalaisaloitteessa mainitun sanan käytöstä tulee rikollinen teko.

Kansalaisaloite.fi: N-sanan käyttö on kriminalisoitava (23.9.2021) (https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/9004)

Minun puolestani suomen kielestä voidaan lailla kieltää n-sana. Sanotaan edelleenkin suoraan ja rehdisti neekeri.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 26.11.2021, 22:30:31
Quote from: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 26.11.2021, 22:23:54
Quote from: Phantasticum on 26.11.2021, 21:17:22
Ei ole kielletty. Vielä. Toivon, että kansalaisaloite no. 9004 saisi maksimaalista julkisuutta ja tarvittavat 50 000 kannatusilmoitusta, jotta aloite etenisi eduskunnan käsiteltäviksi. Voisiko Leveli ottaa asian omakseen? Tai Homma?

Voi sitä kiemurtelua ja kaartelua, kun eduskunta joutuisi pohtimaan aloitteessa mainitun sanan kriminalisointia. Kuka edustajista sanoisi sanan ääneen ja kuka taas ei? Millaisia kiertoilmaisuja asian käsittely vaatisi?

Minun puolestani suomen kielestä voidaan lailla kieltää n-sana. Sanotaan edelleenkin suoraan ja rehdisti neekeri.

Suomalaisilla muinaisjumalilla ja metsän kuninkailla oli kiertoilmaisuja:
QuoteKunnioitetulla, pelätyllä karhulla on jopa 200 eri nimeä, koska sen nimeä ei haluttu sanoa ääneen.

Jumalia ja metsän kuninkaita ei kutsuttu niiden omilla nimillä vaan niistä käytettiin kiertoilmaisuja. Mesikämmen, otso, kontio, metsän omena - oksi
QuoteSuomen kielen tapaan oksi esiintyy monessa suomalais-ugrilaisessa sukulaiskielessä karhun alkuperäisenä nimenä. Karhukin on peitenimi, alunperin se liittyi karhun karvoihin, turkkiin. Oksin hellittelynimi taas on Ohto, joka on siirtynyt myös etunimeksi.

Niin jumalia ei haluttu suututtaa....

Afroamerikkalainen, tummaihoinen, värillinen, n-sana, rodullistettu....

Allaaaaaah anna mulle kameli.

-i-
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 26.11.2021, 22:49:12
Omassa työssäni olen kuunnelut ehkä yli tuhat erilaista kertomusta erilaisista asioista, siksi tuli mieleen Renaz Ebrahimin tv-esiintymisen perusteella jonkinlainen osin ulkoa opeteltu, yhden kerran samaan muottiin sopiva, mutta seuraavan kerran hieman muuttuva tarina.
Pelko on yksi arvokkaimista tunteista, jonka ihminen tuntee, pelon aiheuttaminen on aivan eriasia. Pelko säätelee erittäin paljon käyttäytymistä, muinoisista hyökkää tai pakene, siis erilaisen aivojen välittäjäaineiden antamista signaaleista tässä, ja nyt käyttäytymiseen.
Renazin vetoaminen turvattomuuden tuomaan pelkoon tv-studiossa on naurettavaa, Renazilla oli melko vaikeita, melkein pienimuotoiseen psykoosiin liittyviä itse lausumiaan, itsensä kohdistuvia väittämiä turvattomuudesta, kai liittyy johonkin ennalta opiskeltuun fiktiiviseen turvattomuuteen,jonka jonkinlainen itsesuggestio suhteessa tunteeseen olen melkein musta t. jotain,,, ja samaistun siihen.. sai aikaan.

Oli hyvä huomio Äpyli, viittaus Renazin omaan kontrolliin, via. a-studion katsojille välittyvään kuvaan.
Quotepsyykkinen itsesäätelyjärjestelmä ei toimi kuin sen pitäisi
En halua nostaa ns. tikunnokkaan ketään yksittäistä ihmistä, mutta wokekulttuurin? esiinmarssi on hieman outoa, wokelaiset ylistävät omaa itseään, ihonväri on eräänlainen dynamo joka antaa lisää virtaa jatkumoon, jossa identifioidutaan johokin joka ei ole totta kaikkien kohdalla..vrt. tamperelainen saamelainen. Pääasia on kuulua johonkin oletettuun vähemmistöön ja palvoa niitä jotka ovat erivärisiä, zqrrtjj-sukupuoleen kuuluvia tai muuten vaan hieman eripoluilla, kuin valkoinen heteromies.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Phantasticum on 26.11.2021, 23:54:20
Ajatelkaa nyt. Suomen eduskunta keskustelisi Herran vuonna 2021, 2022 tai 2023 vakavissaan, pitäisikö jokin tietty sana kriminalisoida. Tämä hallitus on sitoutunut intersektionaalisen feminismin tarkstelutapaan ja tasa-arvoon. Siksi olisi luontevaa, että kansalaisaloite no. 9004 tulisi Marinin hallituksen käsiteltäväksi.

Edustajat pitäisivät puheita puolesta tai vastaan. Antirasismiin sitoutuneiden kuuluisi äänestää kansalaisaloitteen puolesta. Näin eroteltaisiin jyvät akanoista. Jos edes vihreät ei kannattaisi aloitetta, heidän olisi perusteltava kielteinen kantansa. Ajatelkaa sitä verbaaliakrobatiaa ja kiusallista vääntelehtimistä, jos aloite olisi vihreillekin liikaa. Sanoista taidetta ja sirkushuveja kansalle!

Ja vaikka aloite ei menestyisi, toisin sanoen sanaa ei kriminalisoitaisi, jälkipolville jäisi muistoksi eduskunnassa käyty keskustelu plus kaupan päälle mediakeskustelu. Tämä kansalaisaloite on loistava ajankuva Suomesta ja suomalaisesta yhteiskunnasta 2020-luvun alkupuolella. Asiat tärkeysjärjestykseen. Ajatelkaa edes historiantutkijoita!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ÄmTeeAa on 27.11.2021, 00:09:02
Jos tämä woke hörhöily menee täysin idioottimaiseksi, ja tässä joutuu raastupaan vastaamaan sanoistaanTM, niin ajattelin identifoitua johonkin vähemmistöön. Olen nimittäin varma, että sukuhistoriastani löytyy joku vähemmistö, jonka pohjalla voi vaati positiivista erityiskohtelua oikeudessa. Kysyisin syyttäjältä, että "Ai että ootteks te jotain rasisteja vai?"

Toki jos raastupaan joutuu, kannattaa silloin olla myös työtön. Työssäkäynyttä sen hetkiset päiväsakot lähinnä naurattaisivat.

Alan kääntymään sille tuulelle, että näiden kommareiden tekemät porsaanreiät lakeihin kannattaa käyttää hyväksi. Taistellaan tulella tulta vastaan. Ja voin muuten vakuuttaa, että sekin osataan ekalla kerralla paremmin, kuin sitä vuosikymmeniä harjoitelleet kommarit.  Haluavat pelata tyhmää, mutta eivät tajuakaan kuinka typeriä me voimme halutessamme olla ;D

Olen odottanut niin sanottuja vihapuhelakeja. Suvaitsevaisto kun veti herneet nenään, kun kerroin että mitä tekisin jos sellaiset tulisivat voimaan. Kävelisin nimittäin ensimmäisenä kaupunginkirjastoon, ja kaivaisin KAIKKI kommareiden ja suvaitsevaiston teokset esille. Taattua vihapuhetta nimittäin. Sitten rikosilmoitus joka ikisestä, ja päitä vadeille niiltä jotka moista törkyä ovat sallineet julkisuuteen - tekohan on törkeä! Ja eihän tällainen vuosikymmeniä kestänyt väärinkäytös olisi mahdollista, ellei sillä olisi esimiesten puoltoa, joka menisi sitten ihan sinne kaupungin korkeimpaan virkamiesjohtoon...

Sellainen pinkka rikosilmoituksia voisi ollakin ihan huvittava tempaus tuolla kamarin luukulla. Joo, tiedän että poliisia ei naurattaisi, mutta elämme pähkähulluja aikoja. Ei tätä touhua voi ottaa enää tosissaan. Yllä olevasta juonenkulusta saisi varmaan tehtyä vielä komedialeffankin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: rätkä on 27.11.2021, 00:11:55
Pääsisiköhän tällä kiellolla eroon valtaosasta räp -lausuntaa ja n -ihmisten kansoittamia elokuvia. Niissä useinkin sanotaan tuo kohta toivottavasti kielletty sana.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 27.11.2021, 01:41:31
Quote from: Äpyli on 26.11.2021, 20:48:09
(...)

Quote from: Toimittaja Renaz Ebrahim @ YLE Sannikka 19.11.2021 klo 18"tää on ensinnäkin ihan superjärkyttävää, että mä oon tällasessa tilassa missä valkonen ihminen, niinku, ruskeen ihmisen vieressä kaks kertaa käyttää n-sanaa, niinku, ihan tahalleen. (...)

Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists."

- Thomas Sowell


Hyvät ihmiset...

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2021, 03:52:38
Jussi on avannut Twitter-hanan ja valuttaa kahdeksan twiittiä siitä mikä woke on.

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Quote1/8 Woke-porukka ei ainoastaan elä rinnakkaisessa todellisuudessa. Kyseinen rinnakkaistodellisuus on myös sisäisesti hyvin ristiriitainen ja sekava.

Quote2/8 Ensin todetaan, että Valtaoja on väärässä väittäessään sanojen tuomittavuuden riippuvan kontekstista, jossa niitä käytetään. Heti perään sanotaan, että sanan tuomittavuus riippuu siitä, kuka sitä käyttää, koska "ruskea" ihminen käyttää sanaa eri tarkoituksessa kuin valkoinen.

Quote3/8 Kop kop: Sanoja ja hänen tarkoitusperänsä juuri muodostavat KONTEKSTIN.

Quote4/8 Rasismitutkija Nguyen harmittelee sitä, että Suomessa ei tilastoida ihmisiä muuten kuin maahanmuuttajuuden tai äidinkielen mukaan. Tämä on kiintoisaa. Esim. perussuomalaisten Olli Immonen on ehdottanut etnistä rekisteröintiä, mutta hän ei saanut ehdotuksestaan juuri kehuja.

Quote5/8 Haluavatko wokettajat siis, että ihmisiä tilastoidaan etnisyyden perusteella, vai eivät? Ja jos haluavat, miten ihmiset pitäisi luokitella? Perustuisiko luokittelu siihen, miltä henkilöstä itsestään tuntuu, vai käytettäisiinkö apuna Tikkurilan värikarttaa?

Quote6/8 "Valkoisuus on normi, jota vasten muita arvioidaan".

Erityisesti wokettajat tekevät tätä. Vain muut kuin valkoiset voivat olla "rodullistettuja". Vain muilla kuin valkoisilla voi olla kulttuuri, joka kuuluu vain heille. Vain valkoinen voi syyllistyä kulttuuriseen omimiseen.

Quote7/8 Hesarin toimittajan mukaan sympatioiden valuminen Valtaojalle johtuu siitä, että tämä on valkoinen mies, mikä taas on todistavinaan woke-pointin, valkoisen etuoikeuden ja vaikka minkä.

Quote8/8 Sympatiat eivät valu Valtaojalle siksi, että hän on valkoinen mies vaan siksi, että hän sanoi itsestäänselvyyksiä, kun taas vastapuoli oli sekaisin kuin seinäkello. Vastapuolen ruskeus tai sen puute ei vaikuta suuntaan eikä toiseen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kartiokulmio on 27.11.2021, 04:20:57
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2021, 03:52:38
Jussi on avannut Twitter-hanan ja valuttaa kahdeksan twiittiä siitä mikä woke on.
Siellä vastauksissa oli termiä hyvin selventävä twiitti

JuhaniVallikari
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Jos leikittäisiin hetki #woke-narsististon kielipelejä, niin #VHM:n voitaisiin todeta olevan #velvollistettu.

Velvollistettua väitetään etuoikeutetuksi samalla kun hänellä on velvollisuus kaikkeen - etenkin maksamiseen ja sivuutetuksi tulemiseen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2021, 04:42:05
QuoteWoketus huipussaan – USA:n yliopistot tarjoavat tukea Rittenhouse-tuomiosta traumatisoituneille opiskelijoille

Monet USA:n yliopistot tarjoavat psykologista keskusteluapua Rittenhouse-tuomiosta traumatisoituneille opiskelijoilleen. Julkilausumissa toistellaan tuttuja woke-ideologian mantroja ja taikasanoja, mutta faktat ovat usein pahasti hukassa. Pahimmillaan yliopisto sortuu käymään taistelua rasismia vastaan jakamalla traumatisoituneet opiskelijat eri ryhmiin ihonvärin mukaan.

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/woketus-huipussaan-usan-yliopistot-tarjoavat-tukea-rittenhouse-tuomiosta-traumatisoituneille-opiskelijoille/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2021, 05:25:28
https://sarastuslehti.com/2018/09/16/kaytosnumeroita-ei-jaeta/

QuoteHomman nimi on selvä, tämä on kulttuurisotaa. Sananvapautta ei ole eikä tule. Hyvästä käytöksestä ei palkita. Vasemmiston tarkoitus on tehdä meidän elämästämme hankalaa. Tehkäämme siis heidän elämästään hankalaa. Vastatkaamme hyökkäyksiin. He eivät lannistu passiivisuudesta, he innostuvat. Meidän on kostettava, on iskettävä takaisin. Tähän asti he ovat pelanneet kuin säännöt eivät koskisi heitä. Sen aika on ohitse. Heidät on laitettava kärsimään, heidän on tunnettava oman pelinsä säännöt omissa nahoissaan. Se voi antaa heille opetuksen tai vain eskaloida tilannetta, mutta se ei ole oleellista. Isku ja vastaisku, se on oleellista.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Katmandu on 27.11.2021, 15:48:18
Oma analyysi: äärioikeisto on onnistunut puskemaan Overtonin ikkunaa enemmän nuivien ajattelun suuntaan.

5 vuotta sitten Orpo lausui: "pakolaisten moviivien epäilyn olevan rasismia", ja nyt on vähän eri meininki. Toki aina pitää olla todella varovainen ajatellessaan Orpon kaltaisen poliitikon motiiveja lausua jotain tuollaista. Jonkinnäköistä muutosta on kuitenkin havaittavissa yleisessä ilmapiirissä.

Omasta mielestäni tämä liittyy siihen, että julkisesta keskustelusta, some-alustoista ja muualta kaikki radikaalit ajattelijat (Junes, Trump, Milo, Vastanrintaliike jne jne.) eli niin kutsuttu "äärioikeisto" on bannattu, joten jäljelle on jäänyt nuivia ja ei-niin-äärioikeistolaisia kommentaattoreita, jotka tosin omistavat erittäin lähelle äärioikeistoa meneviä mielipiteitä. Kun kaikkein huomiota herättävimmät ja radikaalit keskustelijat on cancellöity/bannattu – huomio on keskittynyt entistä enemmän maltillisiin oikeistolaisiin, joilla on täysin samoja mielipiteitä kuin äärioikeistolaisilla radikaaleilla, mutta erilainen lähestymistapa esittää niitä.

5 vuotta sitten äärioikeisto oli ainoa joka vastusti todella äänekkäästi SJW-meininkiä Toki maltillisetkin mielessään vastustivat, mutta he eivät tehneet sitä aktiivisesti ja yhtä äänekkäästi kuiin ns. äärioikeisto. Eli maltillinen oikeisto oli vähän kuin sivustaseuraaja. Tavallaan nyt kun se radikaalein oikeisto on hiljennetty, niin kukaan ei ole enää sanomassa vastaan SJW-porukalle ja maltillinen ei voi enää tuudittautua siihen, että joku muu kuin hän itse vastustaa SJW-kulttuuria. Tämä on nähdäkseni se syy, miksi entistä useampi "maltillinen" on noussut vastustamaan SJW-kulttuuria. Eli cancellöinti ja bannaaminen on itseasiassa kääntynyt itseään vastaan ja tehnyt aiemmin äärioikeiston omimista mielipiteistä valtavirtaa.

Yhteenveto: maltillisista oikeistolaisista on tullut kulttuurisodan eturintamalaisia, kun ennen eturintamassa olivat äärioikeistolaiset. Nyt myös entistä useampi "puolueeton kommentaattori" on antanut tukensa anti-woke-liikehdinnälle, koska maltilliset oikeistolaiset ovat paljon enemmän samaistuttavampia kuin "radikaali äärioikeisto" joka on näennäisesti pyyhittu pois keskustelusta. Eli toisinsanoen: ääiroikeiston bannaaminen on kääntynyt äärioikeiston eduksi ja anti-woke liikkeen haitaksi.

Ihan kuin historia toistaisi itseää: hiljentämällä keskustelijoita ei voitettu yleistä mielipidettä puolelleen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tsuudi on 27.11.2021, 16:21:59
Wokeväen rinnakkaistodellisuudessa vallitseva relativismi on vailla minkäänlaista logiikkaa. Kun ideologia on oikea, niin kansanmurhakin on ok.
Tuli vain haja-ajatuksena mielee lukiessani iltalehteä.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/685173ab-930d-44c3-ae6c-6b9599685417

QuoteJosif Stalin käytti hyväksi 13-vuotiasta tyttöä, ryösti pankin ja rosvosi merillä – sitten hän ilmestyi Helsinkiin
Kun Stalin saapui Helsinkiin

Marraskuussa 1917 Josif Stalin vieraili viimeisen kerran Suomessa. Hän saapui Helsinkiin lietsomaan suomalaisia sosialistiseen vallankumoukseen – onnistumatta siinä. Myöhemmin hän antoi happaman lausunnon siitä, millainen kansa suomalaiset ovat.

Loput maksumuurin takana.
Tehdäänpä pieni ajatuskoe.
"Henkilö x käytti hyväkseen nukeilla leikkivää 9 vuotiasta tyttöä, ryösti sekä murhasi naapuriheimoja ja myi eloonjääneet orjiksi".
Jos joku väittää tällaisen toiminan jäljittelyä ja elämistä todeksi tavoiteltava ja oikeana, hänen tekojaan pidettään pedofiliana ja rikoksena ihmisyyttä vastaan.
Kun korvataan henkilö x 600-luvulla eläneellä itsensä profeetaksi julistaneella henkilöllä, ja elämäntavan jäljittelijät erään maailman suurimmista uskonnon seuraajilla, niin johan menee aivot solmuun. Seuraajat ovatkin haavoittuvimmassa asemassa olevia, joita sitten lennätellään "turvaan" tekojensa seurauksia umpirasistiseen ja suvaitsemattomaan suomeen.
Sama homma tuon Stalinin kanssa. Henkilö kansanmurhaa miljoonittain ihmisiä, ollen yksi mailman pahimmista ellei pahin ihmishirviö mitä ollut on. Silti marksilaisuus, kulttuurimarksismi, kulttuurivallankumous ja kommunismi on ok. Kulttuurimarksismia ja kulttuurivallankumousta edustaa nykyinen woke-liike.
Sitten on kansallissosialismi ja Hitler, kolmas valtakunta, totalitaria ja kansanmurha.
Mutta vain toinen näistä on paha. Eikö yleisesti hyväksytyn logiikan perusteella molemmat ole yhtä pahoja? Ja joidenkin lähteiden mukaan kommunistit ja kommunistimaiden johtajat ovat se kaikkein tappavin aate ja yhteiskuntajärjestys maailmassa?

Tämä on täysin kaiken järjen vastaista. Orwell näki tämän aikoja sitten ja osasi ennustaa kehityksen hämmästyttävällä tarkkudella. Hän myös kuvasi osuvasti; "orjuus on vapautta, sota on rauhaa" jne.
En epäile hetkeäkään, ettekö tällä woke-porukalla ole siellä polun päässä odottelemassa toisinajattelijoiden leiritys ja tuohoaminen.

Onhan näiden jutuissa jonkinainen logiikkaa; kun ymmärtää pahuuden todellisen luonteen ja sen, että tarkoitus pyhittää keinot, saa lausunnot, joissa "väkivalta on erilaista". Onhan se. Arvorelativistille.

Tasavertaisuuden, oikeudenmukaisuuden eikä logiikan kanssa tällä porukalla ole mitään tekemistä, paitsi arvorelativistin mielestä.

Kaikki on suhteellista ja riippuu tarkkailijan positiosta.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 27.11.2021, 18:39:35
Quote from: Katmandu on 27.11.2021, 15:48:18
Oma analyysi: äärioikeisto on onnistunut puskemaan Overtonin ikkunaa enemmän nuivien ajattelun suuntaan.

5 vuotta sitten Orpo lausui: "pakolaisten moviivien epäilyn olevan rasismia", ja nyt on vähän eri meininki. Toki aina pitää olla todella varovainen ajatellessaan Orpon kaltaisen poliitikon motiiveja lausua jotain tuollaista. Jonkinnäköistä muutosta on kuitenkin havaittavissa yleisessä ilmapiirissä.

Paradoksaalisesti Suomen maahanmuuttopolitiikka – myös kokoomuksen ajama – kuitenkin on antinuivaa enemmän kuin ikinä.

Siinä missä ennen vastustettiin koko maahanmuuttoteemaa "rasistisena" (mm. puolueiden yhteinen sopimus 2000-luvun alussa, ettei maahanmuuttoa käsitellä vaalikampanjoissa, myöhemmät "rasisminvastaiset julistukset" ennen vaaleja), nykyään ei ole temppu eikä mikään ajaa äärimmäistä mokutusta ja naamioida se julkisuudessa muutamilla iskusanoilla maahanmuuttokriittisyydeksi. Esimerkkeinä vaikkapa tosiaan kokoomus, presidentti Niinistön monitulkintaiset lausunnot ja EU:n komission maahanmuuttopaketti, josta nostettiin hämäyksen vuoksi tiedottamisessa esiin turvapaikanhakijoiden palautukset.

Ilmapiirille on kuvaavaa, että sdp ei ole vuosikausiin halunnut julkaista radikaaleja maahanmuuttopoliittisia linjauksiaan ohjelmana, mutta toteuttaa niitä täyttä häkää hallituksessa.

2018-05-28 SDP suunnittelee radikaaleja muutoksia maahanmuuttopolitiikkaan (http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,125927.msg2887489.html#msg2887489)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 27.11.2021, 18:54:54
Kun lukee näitä woke-väen lausuntoja, ihmettelee, mistä Teuvo Hakkarainen tuomittiin. 

Hakkarainen sanoi, että kaikki muslimit eivät ole terroristeja, mutta kaikki terroristit ovat muslimeja. Tuomio tuli jälkimmäisestä.

Woket sanovat, että kaikki valkoiset ovat rasisteja ja kaikki rasistit ovat valkoisia. Seurauksena aplodeja  ja ilmoitus, että taustalla on toki hyvä tarkoitus.

Jos rotusodan lietsomisella  on hyvä tarkoitus niin ei kai sitten mitään? Rotu- ja miesvihaa saa näköjään lietsoa vapaasti holtittomalla yleistämisellä, mutta jos erehtyy siinä, että terroristeista vain 98% on muslimeja eikä 100%, istuu äkkiä leivättömän pöydän ääressä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 27.11.2021, 19:07:51
Quote
The "woke" sheep explained

https://gab.com/OutlawJW/posts/107346352984736288
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 27.11.2021, 21:49:34
Quote from: Äpyli on 26.11.2021, 22:03:52
Oli miten oli, minun on vaikea uskoa, että Renaz kokisi voimakkaasti turvattomuutta ja sitten käyttäytyisi sitten kuten käyttäytyi. Voi toki olla, että hän määrittelee turvattomuuden eri tavalla kuin useimmiten tehdään. Kuitenkin, mikäli yksi n-sana aiheuttaa turvattomuuden tunteen aikuisessa ihmisessä, se on melko huolestuttavaa,  ja tarkoittaa sitä että -- ilman muita vaikuttavia tekijöitä -- psyykkinen itsesäätelyjärjestelmä ei toimi kuin sen pitäisi.

"Turvaton tila" on hokema, jonka eräät piirit ovat keksineet ja omaksuneet poliittiseen jargoniinsa ja propagandaan poliittisista agit prop -syistä. Käsittääkseni se viitaa jotenkin siihen, että joku homo tai transsu pelkää saavansa turpiinsa (kenties kun meni kourimaan väärän henkilön munia baarin vessassa). "Turvaton tila" ei kuitenkaan realisoidu, jos valkoinen eksyy no-go-zonelle. Eikä myöskään jos homo tai transsu joutuu muslimien ympäröimäksi ja pahasti mulkoilemaksi. Sellaiset sattumukset ovat jotakin sellaista, josta voke ei kykene sanomaan enää mitään järjellistä.

"Turvaton tila" ei siten liity neekeri-sanaan, vaan se tuli mukaan kun tyhjäntoimittelija alkoi sulakkeiden poliittisista syistä lauettu ladella monologia ennalta ohjelmoiduilla poliittisilla iskusanoilla ja käsitejargonilla. Siksi puheiden logiikka ei pysynyt kasassa, koska sitä ei ollut alun perinkään, ja siksi katsojalle jäi jäljelle vain hyvin vinksahtanut vaikutelma kyseisestä paasaajasta. Voi katsoa, että tuossa ei toimittu enää itsellisenä persoonana, vaan eräänlaisena ohjelmoituna poliittisena marionettina ja bulvaanina. Tuo vuodatus oli oiva demonstraatio newspeakista.

Kommunismin aikaisen kielipelin hyvin tunteneen puolalaisprofessorin analyysi asiasta:

Prof. Michał Głowiński – Uuskielen olemus ja sen analysointi (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,128460.msg3047191.html#msg3047191)

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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 27.11.2021, 22:44:29
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2021, 05:25:28
https://sarastuslehti.com/2018/09/16/kaytosnumeroita-ei-jaeta/

QuoteHomman nimi on selvä, tämä on kulttuurisotaa. Sananvapautta ei ole eikä tule. Hyvästä käytöksestä ei palkita. Vasemmiston tarkoitus on tehdä meidän elämästämme hankalaa. Tehkäämme siis heidän elämästään hankalaa. Vastatkaamme hyökkäyksiin. He eivät lannistu passiivisuudesta, he innostuvat. Meidän on kostettava, on iskettävä takaisin. Tähän asti he ovat pelanneet kuin säännöt eivät koskisi heitä. Sen aika on ohitse. Heidät on laitettava kärsimään, heidän on tunnettava oman pelinsä säännöt omissa nahoissaan. Se voi antaa heille opetuksen tai vain eskaloida tilannetta, mutta se ei ole oleellista. Isku ja vastaisku, se on oleellista.

mä avasin linkin ja luin tämän lauri starkin kirjoituksen, joka olikin jo 3v. vanha. se oli oikein asiallinen, ja ajatuksia herättävä kirjoitelma. siitä lainaan vähän lisää.

Quoteketään leninistä oikealle ei tilaisuuden tullen jätetä savustamatta ulos, jopa vasemmiston omat maltilliset saavat sen ennen pitkään kokea.

noh, kuinkas sille rasmuksen kokoomuslaiselle toiminnanjohtajalle kävi?

juuh, näin se maailma menee, saatana ei saavu suden vaatteissa, se saapuu lampaan vaatteissa. ja jos antaa pirulle pikkusormen se vie.... onhan näitä ikiaikaisia sanontoja. woke-kommari toimii lopulta aika ennustettavalla tavalla, mieleeni tuli, kun tässä nyt kerrottiin, että vassarit oikeastaan halveksivat cuck-konservatiiveja, jotka haluavat vain tuoksua hyvälle, ja näyttää komeilta sekä piittaavat paljon että mitä heistä ajatellaan, niin karmea esimerkki historiasta, ja siitä mihin myöntyväisyyspolitiikka johtaa.


eli tämä munhenin surullisenkuuluisa konferenssi, jossa brittien chamberlain ja ranskan dalarier möivät tsekkoslovakian hitlerille, saamatta mitään vastineeksi. olkoonkin että sudeettisaksalaisten asema vaati korjauksia, imperialistiset tsekit alistivat heitä. noh meni puoli vuotta ja hitler söi loput tynkä tsekkoslovakiasta. se olisi ollu viimeistään perustava syy englannilla ja ranskalla julistaa sota. mutta hitler kerskuili myöhemmin että hän huomasi champerlainin ja kumppaneiden olevan pelkkiä munattomia matoja!! eli aikansa cuckservatiivejä siis!! (sota tuli vasta puolan tapahtumien takia. länsivallat yrittivät saada stalinin mukaan liittoon, mutta hän ei halunnut uhrata mitään englannin ja ranskan takia, vaan pelasikin ovelasti hitlerin kanssa yhteen. ja taas cuckservatiivejä nöyryytettiin!!!)

ja sitten tähän päivään takas. on päivänselvää se että mitä usassa nyt tapahtuu, eli yhteiskunnan totaalinen mädännyttäminen, niin vassarit ei olisi siihen ikinä pystyneet ilman cuckservatiivien apuja. munattomat menivät antamaan myönnytyksiä, niin tulos on sitten tässä.

toki asia voi ollakin myös niin, kuin jotkin ovat esittäneet, että koko sotku palvelee globalistien etuja, eli sitä on lietsottu tahallaan, että voidaan osoittaa kansallisvaltion heikkous, ja perustella sen alasajo näinkin.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 27.11.2021, 23:38:28
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Woke-Yle lietsoo vihaa valkoihoisia kohtaan
 
Edellisessä blogitekstissä kirjoitin, "....Yle suojelee kriminaaleja, joiden hipiä edustaa jotain muuta kuin valkoihoisuutta. Sen sijaan Yle esittelee aika ajoin korostetun innokkaasti rikollisia, joiden ihonväri on vaalea".

Ei kulunut vuorokauttakaan, kun Yle tarjoili todisteen yllä olevan lainauksen sisällön oikeellisuudesta.

Aamun (25.11.2021) useissa tv-uutisissa Ylen toimittaja kertoi, että Yhdysvalloissa on nostettu syytteet kolmea valkoihoista miestä vastaan. Miehiä syytetään tummapintaisen lenkkeilijän murhasta.

Ylen uutisoinnissa korostettiin syytettyjen (valkoihoisia) ja uhrin (tumma) ihonväriä.

Kolmea päivää aiemmin, tiistaina 22.11.2021 Ylen uutisoinnissa ei mainittu lainkaan ihonväriä, kun musta mies murhasi autoa apunaan käyttäen ainakin kuusi valkoihoista ihmistä.
Automurhaajasta Yle käytti nimitystä "mies".

Miksi Yle mainitsee lähes poikkeuksetta murhaajaksi epäillyn ihonvärin, jos se voidaan yhdistää valkoihoisiin? Ja mistä syystä ihonväristä ei puhuta mitään, kun mustaa epäillään lukuisista murhista?

Tosiasiassa mustat (tai people of color, värilliset ihmiset) ovat rajusti yliedustettuja Yhdysvalloissa murhien ja erilaisten väkivaltarikosten tekijöinä, joten mistä syystä Yle pyrkii toistuvasti väittämään jotain aivan muuta?

Ylen toimittajat ovat pääsääntöisesti valkoihoisia. Mikä saa heidät potemaan kroonista vihaa edustamaansa ihonväriä kohtaan? Miksi Yle pyrkii toistuvasti kiihottamaan suomalaisia vihaan valkoihoisia vastaan tai vaihtoehtoisesti  painostaa häpeilemään valkoihoisuutta?

Ylen aamutelevision uutisissa näytettiin lisäksi elävää kuvaa, jossa mustan lenkkeilijän murhasta epäillyt esiintyivät. Sen sijaan Yle ei ole näyttänyt ainoatakaan kuvaa mustasta automurhaajasta, jonka tekojen seurauksena ainakin kuusi valkoihoista ihmistä menetti henkensä ja 48 sai eriasteisia vammoja.

Mustan automurhaajan valkoihoisten uhrien kuvat ovat olleet esillä lukuisissa kansainvälisissä medioissa ja sosiaalisessa mediassa.

Välittömästi kuolleet viisi uhria olivat iältään yli 50-vuotiaita vanhimman ollessa 84-vuotias (linkki, josta viiden uhrin kuvat löytyvät skrollaamalla tekstiä alaspäin) 

Kuudes ja nuorin kuolonuhreista, kahdeksanvuotias pieni poika, menehtyi sairaalassa. 

Automurhat toteuttanut musta mies on kriminaali rap-muusikko, joka ihannoi väkivaltaista BLM-liikettä ja joka on sosiaalisessa mediassa kiihottanut ihmisiä väkivaltaan valkoihoisia vastaan. 

Hänen sosiaalisen median sivustonsa pitää sisällään useita päivityksiä (katso edellisestä kappaleesta löytyvästä linkistä), jollaisista Yle nostaisi valtavan kohun, mikäli ne löytyisivät jonkun valkoihoisen sosiaalisen median tileiltä. Nyt Yle pimittää murhamiehen profiilin, koska avoin kertominen sotisi Ylen noudattamaa woke-linjaa vastaan.

Sivistyneessä länsimaailmassa ei peitellä murhamiesten kuvia heidän ihonvärinsä perusteella, mutta Suomessa Yle ja useat kaupalliset mediat toimivat toisin.

Ei tarvitse kuin siirtyä Suomenlahden yli Viroon, mikäli haluaa saada rehellisemmän kuvan maailman tapahtumista valtiollisen median välityksellä.

Suomen Yleisradion ja Viron ETV / ERR:n välillä on rankka ero, mitä tulee uutisoinnin avoimuuteen ja rehellisyyteen. Ei ETV / ERR aina onnistu, mutta pääsääntöisesti sen uutisoinnista saa maailman tapahtumista laajemman, paremman ja rehellisemmän kuvan kuin Ylen pimittävää ja tarkoitushakuista uutisointia seuraamalla.

Onko Suomi ihmisvihaan, erityisesti valkoihoisten alistamiseen ja nöyryyttämiseen keskittyvän totalitaarisen woke-ideologian edistämisen kärkivaltio maailmassa?

Mikä saa suomalaiset mediat kumartamaan valkoihoisia ja länsimaista kulttuuria vihaavaa ideologiaa, jonka päämääränä vaikuttaa olevan aidon vapauden sekä länsimaisten sivistysvaltioiden demokratian, kulttuurin ja koheesion tuhoaminen?

Ylessä ei taideta ymmärtää, että ihonväri ei murhaa ketään, vaan henkilöstä voi kasvaa murhamies tai –nainen riippumatta hänen ihonväristään. Tosin tilastojen valossa vaikuttaa siltä, että värilliset ihmiset ajautuvat ainakin Yhdysvalloissa valkoihoisia todennäköisemmin murhaajiksi ja väkivallantekijöiksi.

Suomessa ihonväri vaikuttaa olevan merkittävä tekijä erityisesti seksuaalirikoksissa, sillä tilastoissa ovat rankasti yliedustettuina etniset ryhmät, joiden edustajien lasketaan kuuluvan muuhun kuin valkoihoisten ryhmään.

Tekeekö ihonväri ihmisestä seksuaalirikollisen? Ei tietenkään, mutta siitä huolimatta muut kuin valkoihoisiksi lasketut ovat Suomessa rajusti yliedustettuja epäiltyjen seksuaalirikollisten ryhmässä.

Viimeisimmät uutiset kertovat seksuaalirikoksia tekevistä taksikuskeista Helsingissä.

Iltalehti 24.11.2021, lainaus artikkelista: 

"Epäilty on ollut tiedossa 41 seksuaalirikoksessa. Eri rikoksesta epäiltyjä oli kaikkiaan 30 henkilöä. Rikoksesta epäillyn asema on saattanut muuttua esitutkinnan aikana, jos esimerkiksi asianomistaja on luopunut vaatimuksistaan.

Vuosina 2019–2021 tiedossa olevat seksuaalirikoksista epäillyt taksinkuljettajat ovat olleet pääosin kotoisin Lähi-idän ja Etelä-Aasian sekä Itä- ja Länsi-Afrikan alueilta. Yhdessä tapauksessa epäilty on ollut kotoisin Suomesta."

Siis: vain yksi epäilty on kotoisin Suomesta!! Ylivoimainen enemmistö seksuaalirikoksista epäillyistä taksikuskeista edustaa etnisyytensä perusteella jotain muuta ihonväriä kuin valkoihoisuutta.

Miksi korostan ihonväriä? Koska koko kansan rahoittama Yle korostaa sitä toistuvasti harhaanjohtavassa ja virheellisen kuvan tarjoamassa uutisoinnissa pyrkiessään syyllistämään ihmisiä heidän ihonvärinsä perusteella.

Tiedonvälityksen pitäisi tarjota kansalaisille kuva todellisuudesta, jota Ylen uutisointi ei missään mielessä edusta varsinkaan uutiskokonaisuuksien alueella, jotka liittyvät maahanmuuttoon ja monikulttuurisuuteen sekä etnisyyteen tai ihonväriin, kun aihe liittyy rikollisuuteen.

Ylen uutisointitapa edustaa manipulaatiota, jolla pyritään kertomaan jotain aivan muuta kuin se, mikä on totta. Tästä huolimatta pääosin kansanedustajien muodostama, kokoomuksen kansanedustaja Arto Satosen johtama Ylen hallintoneuvosto ei kykene saattamaan uutis- ja ajankohtaistoimituksen linjaa rehellisimmille raiteille.

Johtuneeko poliitikkojen miehittämän hallintoneuvoston kyvyttömyys siitä, että useat poliitikot ovat tunnettuja siitä, että totuus on heille häilyväinen käsite?

Entä miksi Ylen hallitus, jota Matti Apunen johtaa, ei ole pannut tikkua ristiin, vaikka Ylen vuosien ajan jatkunut propagandistinen uutisointitapa on varmasti sen tiedossa?

Ylen hallituksessa istuu muiden mukana entinen RKP-poliitikko Stefan Wallin, joka poistui heinäkuussa vuonna 2012 puolustusministerin tehtävästä valehdeltuaan sitä ennen perusteista, joilla varuskuntia suljettiin, kun niiden määrää vähennettiin kustannussyihin vedoten.

Wallin salasi asioita jättäen puolustusvaliokunnan ja eduskunnan päätöksenteon puutteellisten tietojen varaan. Puutteellisen informaation levittämisen ohella hän ohjasi varuskuntien lakkautukseen liittyvää päätöksentekoa siten, että Dragsvik jäi kielipoliittisten syiden vuoksi pois lakkautettavien varuskuntien listalta.

Kansankielellä Wallinin harjoittama röyhkeä ja demokraattista päätöksentekoprosessia halveksiva salailu tarkoittaa tietoista valehtelua. Wallin sai valehtelunsa myötä tukea kokoomuksen Ilkka Kanervalta, jonka mukaan ei voitu todistaa Wallinin valehdelleen.

Suomen pääministerinä istui tuolloin Jyrki Katainen (kok), joka kuuluu myös ryhmään valehtelijat kerrottuaan suomalaisille jatkavansa pääministerikautensa loppuun asti, vaikka tiesi jo sanoessaan, ettei missään nimessä toimi kertomallaan tavalla. Katainen siirtyi kesken pääministerikautensa hänelle ennakkoon pedattuun hillotolppapestiin EU-komissioon.

Suomalaiset voivat vuodesta toiseen antaa saman vastauksen kysymykseen "mikä on pääaines, josta Suomen johtavat poliitikot on leivottu?".

Valehtelusta, valehtelusta ja valehtelusta, siitä on suomalaisten poliitikkojen enemmistö leivottu. Tosin samaan kastiin voidaan heittää myös useat toimittajat ainakin Ylen uutis- ja ajankohtaistoimituksen osalta.

Kun ideologinen kiima nousee poliitikon tai toimittajan ylimmäiseksi arvon mittariksi, siirtyy totuus syrjään.

Heikki Porkka
https://oikeamedia.com/o1-170200

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 27.11.2021, 23:53:52
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Wisconsin tragedy: Darrell Brooks Jr sobs in court as he is charged over Waukesha parade attack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5LbhlTlmc4

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dr Manhattan on 27.11.2021, 23:54:34
QuoteMarja Sannikan "woke-jakso" oli malliesimerkki siitä, mikä kaikki suomalaisessa rasismikeskustelussa on pielessä – ja miksi ihonväristä pitää puhua

https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000008426002.html

NYT analyysi (tirsk) - nyt tietää että tulossa on kovaa kamaa. HS kertoo meille rodullistetun henkilön suulla sen minkä jo arvasimmekin, eli että ei-rodullistettuina olemme väärässä. Wokismin vastaisku siis.

Lainaan laajasti maksumuurin vuoksi.

QuoteTurun yliopiston tohtorikoulutettava ja aktivisti Hai Nguyen sanoo, että ohjelman isoin ongelma oli se, miten rasismia siinä käsitettiin.

"Jakso oli historiaton ja vailla kontekstia", Nguyen sanoo.


Hai Nguyen
Hai Nguyen KUVA: TURUN YLIOPISTO

Heti ohjelman aluksi Sannikka esitteli "viisi esimerkkiä hyvää tarkoittavista keinoista, joista voi olla haittaa". "Woke-kulttuuri" niputettiin muutamiin kärkkäisiin, sieltä täältä revittyihin otsikoihin, jotta tunteet varmasti kuumenisivat kotikatsomoissa.

Rasismikeskustelun kannalta kyseenalaisin oli, n-sanan lausumisen lisäksi, kohta kaksi. Siinä Sannikka ihmetteli sitä, miten ennen on pyritty eroon siitä, että "meidät nähtäisiin ihonvärin, sukupuolen tai etnisyyden kautta".

"Edelleenkään ei ole hyvä idea jakaa ihmisiä ihonvärin perusteella ryhmiin", Sannikka sanoi.

Sama ajatus toistui myöhemmin. Ohjelman vierailta Valtaojalta ja toimittaja Renaz Ebrahimilta Sannikka kysyi, mitä he ajattelevat siitä, että väriin kiinnitetään nyt enemmän huomiota kuin aiemmin – lisääkö vai vähentääkö se rasismia?

Valtaoja tokaisi, että "kyllähän se tavallaan lisää". Valtaojan mukaan "pitäisi pyrkiä kaikkien ihmisten kulttuuriin", ja että "me kaikki kuulumme samaan yhteiseen ihmiskuntaan".

"Jos aletaan lokeroimaan ja poteroimaan, että ainoastaan tässä kulttuurissa saa tehdä näin – ei tule parempaa maailmaa, jota me kaikki tavoitellaan", hän sanoi.

Tämän jälkeen Ebrahimi selitti, miten puhumalla ihonväristä nähdään todellisuus: kaikilla ihmisillä ei ole samoja mahdollisuuksia ja etuoikeuksia. Tämän näkemällä ja tunnustamalla voisi päästä joskus siihen maailmaan, jossa "me kaikki olisimme aidosti yhdenvertaisia, eikä tarvitsisi korostaa mitään asioita", Ebrahimi sanoi.

Ajatusta siitä, että ihonväristä tai rodullistamisesta ei haluta puhua, kutsutaan värisokeaksi rasismiksi (eng. colorblind racism), Hai Nguyen kertoo.

Loppu on sitä samaa.

Woken kanssa ei voi neuvotella. Sille pitää vain nauraa. Woke ei keskustele, se määrittelee ja tuomitsee. Valtaojan kohtelusta ja kurdin chimppauksesta voi jokainen päätellä missä ja kenen päässä se ongelma on. Ei siihen tarvita amerikkalaista maailmanselittämisjärjestelmää.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 00:05:59
Juttu on pitkä ja puuduttava joten vielä pieni ote lopusta:

QuoteKatse pitäisi kohdistaa yhteiskunnallisiin rakenteisiin ja instituutioihin, siihen miten rasismi on usein hyvin näkymätöntä, Nguyen sanoo. Se vaikuttaa yhteiskunnan taustalla koko ajan.

Yksilöiden kohdalla pitäisi siirtyä Nguyen mukaan enemmän siihen suuntaan, ettei ihminen ole välttämättä aina rasisti – sillä tavalla kuin sen räikeästi ymmärrämme.

"Mutta hän voi silti toimia rasistisesti ja sillä tavalla ylläpitää rasismia."

Tämä on meille Amerikan tilannetta seuranneille hyvin tutun kuuloista. Valkoisen kuuluu koko ajan varoa sanojaan ja tekojaan ja hävetä etuoikeuttaan. Valkoisuus on poispesemätön synti, ja se on rakenteissa. Vain loputon rahan ja etuuksien virta itsensä neekereiksi identifioiville väritahroille auttaa, mutta lopputulemana valkoisten oletetaan toki häipyvän maailman näyttämöltä ja jättävän avaimet sekä lompakon piirongin päälle.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 28.11.2021, 00:56:21
Vähän taas Seerutia... Kolme viimeistä lainausta voisi ajatella terveisinä Renazille.

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

The most destructive elements of wokeness are enabled by people who's biggest fear is not being seen as "nice".

5:31 AM · Nov 27, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

No, I don't agree.
No, I don't believe what you believe.
No, I won't pretend.
No, I will not be pressured.
No, you are wrong about me.
No, I don't need to explain myself.
No, I don't accept this behaviour.
No, I won't be bullied.
No, thank you.
No.

Learn to say no.
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Interesting how many critics of wokeness are ex-fundamentalists, escaped from cults, or have been abused.

And see the same patterns at play.
8:48 PM · Nov 15, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

The problem with seeing yourself solely as a victim is that you assume all your behaviour is justified.
8:33 PM · Nov 21, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

You can't have the rights & freedom of an adult with the level of responsibility of a child.

Pick one.
10:09 PM · Nov 17, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

You can't control other people.

It's a tough pill- swallow it.
12:24 AM · Nov 17, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Ja tämäkin tähän. Liittyy tähän ketjuun siten, että valtamediahan on woksterien rinkirunkkauskerho, jota se 0.001 % (tai ainakin valtaosa siitä) tukee täydellä voimallaan omien täydellisen itsekkäiden tavoitteidensa vuoksi.

https://twitter.com/SwipeWright (https://twitter.com/SwipeWright)

QuoteThe Left-wing media narrative on the Rittenhouse case is extreme, malicious, and untethered to reality. It is well beyond insane. It would be laughable if it weren't so utterly frightening.

6:35 PM · Nov 20, 2021·Twitter Web App

I've been pretty red-pilled on things lately, but this trial is revealing just how extreme and dangerous the Left-wing media's race-baiting ideology is, and how far they're willing to bend reality to fit a narrative even when their claims are provably absurd on their face.

I've voted blue my whole life, including last election (Tulsi Gabbard), but there is simply no way I can bring myself to continue that trend after what I've been witnessing. The Right is far from my ideal, but if voting R is the best way to combat this sickness, then so be it.

I don't have allegiance to any party. I'll happily vote blue again in the future should they manage to root out this particular malignant ideological tumor.

But until they do, or until the Right somehow manages to exceed the Left's current psychosis, I am voting Republican.

Viimeinen twiitti ketjusta on ollut täällä ennenkin, mutta laitetaan kuitenkin. Luulisin, että tuo on nykyisin varsin yleistä. Mutta jälleen pitää heittää oma mielipiteeni, että täysin turha odottaa, että tästä valtaeliitin / virkamädättäjien / mätämedian sieraimista kiskomasta lammaskansasta minkäänlaista muutosta lähtisi, ulkopuolelta se on tultava. Koska eihän sitä PS:ää voi äänestää, kun ne on äärioikeistolaisia ja muutenkin pahoja ihmisiä. Niinpä äänestänkin taas Kepua ja Kokkareita, niillä kun on kuitenkin niitä "hyviä tyyppejä", jotka puhuu ihan asiaa...  :facepalm: Omasta mielestäni kaikista pahimpia ja kusipäisimpiä maanpettureita.

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Tulsi Gabbard sinänsä mielenkiintoinen tapaus, että luulenpa, että valtaosa, lähes kaikki, olisivat häntä pystyneet vähintäänkin sietämään (no joo, ei woksterit, eikä eliittisontiaiset). Mutta ei, Pervo-Joe piti saada pressaksi. Tai Kamalahan se ykkösvaihtoehto oli, mutta kun "ei oikein" kelvannut äänestäjille.

Joo, meni osittain OT.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kekkeruusi on 28.11.2021, 01:26:12
"Learn to say no."

Tämä on juuri se ajatus, joka minulla on ollut jo vuosia. Noiden moraalittomien pahojen ihmisten, kommareiden, kanssa ei voi keskustella eikä neuvotella. Heidän sairaille vaatimuksilleen pitää vain sanoa "EI!".
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 28.11.2021, 08:06:55
Mielenkiintoinen keskustelu Ivan Puopolon Viisasteluklubissa jossa keskustellaan Sannikan ohjelmasta.

Ivan ei uskalla ajaa ulos sellaista versiota ohjelmasta, jossa hän sanoo ääneen sanan "neekeri" vaan sana on häivytetty jälkeen päin mörinäksi. Keskustelussa hän sen ilmeisesti sanoo ,koska muut keskustelijat selvästi pöyristyvät mutta sana on sotkettu ennen julkaisua. Veikkaan että Ivania alkoi pelottaa seuraukset, jotka tuosta olisi tullut. Ehkä hänen asemassaan ihan ymmärrettävää.

https://youtu.be/-63oBJty02Y?t=146


Lisäksi tuossa ohjelmassa on henkilö nimeltä Petteri Sihvonen. En hänen liikkeitään ole varsinaisesti seurannut, mutta olen pannut merkille että hän on jääkiekon besserwisser, joka tietää lajista kaiken ja on aina räksyttämässä "osaamistaan" muille. Ja se osaaminen on referenssien osalta varsin vaatimatonta.  Youtubesta löytyy herkullisia viedeoita, joissa tämä älypää yrittää ojentaa Kalervo Kummolaa ja kumppaneita ja laittaa nämä tilille siitä, että ovat tehneet täysin vääriä valintoja suomen lätkämaajoukkueen päävalmentajasta. Hauskoja ne videot on siitä syystä ,että kun vertaa kritiikkiä siihen kuinka Suomi on pärjännyt viime vuosikymmeninä lätkässä, niin aina vaan löytyy joku valopää joka sanoo että väärin voitettu, ja viime vuodet se on ollut nimenomaan Petteri Sihvonen.

Keskustelusta selviää että Petteri Sihvonen onkin, dadaa, täysverinen punikki, asia joka selittää hänen agressiivisen ja riidanhaluisen käytöksensä. Sihvonen wokettaa tuossa videolla niin että välillä on vaikea uskoa että onko hän tosissaan? On se. Lisäksi hän on pahoillaan jääkiekon maskuliinisuudesta ja muista "ongelmista". Video kestää kolme varttia.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kaarin M on 28.11.2021, 08:14:58
Quote from: Tavan on 23.11.2021, 21:31:19
Tämä keskustelu on alleviivannut sitä kuinka voimakas ase sana neekeri meille on. Voldemort ei ole mitään neekeriin verrattuna. Kun joku lausahtaa neekeri, on seurauksena infernaalinen halvaus ja tilttaus, ja lopulta lähtee toimittajalta ohjelma alta ja kenties työpaikkakin.

Neekeri on suvakkien kryptoniitti. He eivät hillitse itseään sen edessä.

Suomalaisessa kulttuurissa ko.sana ei ole ollut negatiivisessa merkityksessä ennen kuin tumman ihon värin kantajat alkoivat pitää sitä kiellettynä. Tämä ei tunnu menevän näille tajuntaan. Vertaus sanaan ryssä, jossa on ollut negatiivinen kaiku ja lataus.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jaska Pankkaaja on 28.11.2021, 08:47:50
Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 00:05:59
..
lopputulemana valkoisten oletetaan toki häipyvän maailman näyttämöltä ja jättävän avaimet sekä lompakon piirongin päälle.
Ei tämä ole vielä lopputulema: neekerien tapauksessa oli tietenkin rasistista jättää ne avaimet ja lompakot piirongin päälle koska kohta talo on poltettu ja rahat narkattu ja siiiitten ne valkoiset asuvat jossain muualla ja osa niistä sanoo että pitäkää tunkkinne!

Tämä jos mikä on rasismia  :'(

Jos minä saisin päättää niin voisinkin valita pienen kulman Afrikasta, tai mieluummin jonkun saaren Karibialta, ja sitten vaihdettaisiin väestöt. Neekerit saisivat nauttia täällä ilmastonmuutoksesta ja me siellä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 28.11.2021, 17:30:21
Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 27.11.2021, 23:54:34
QuoteMarja Sannikan "woke-jakso" oli malliesimerkki siitä, mikä kaikki suomalaisessa rasismikeskustelussa on pielessä – ja miksi ihonväristä pitää puhua
https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000008426002.html

Tuo woken ja interfeministien suusta viime aikoina säännöllisesti kuultu "ihonväristä pitää alkaa puhumaan" on pelkkää sumutusta. Se oikeasti tarkoittaa että ihonväristä puhumisen pitää tapahtua vain "oikein" puritanistien määrittämien kapeiden ja lennosta muuttuvien sääntöjen rajoissa. Ja että ihonväristä puhuminen on enimmäkseen suotavaa vain puhdasoppisten woke-pappien ja väritoteemien suulla.

Mutta tuossa lausahduksessa olisi kyllä nuiville ja tolkun ihmisillekin tarttumapintaa jolla paljastaa esille woketuksen tuplastandardeja. Kun iFem sanoo "ihonväristä pitää pystyä puhumaa", me sanomme "sopii, puhutaanko ensin eri ihonvärien edustuksesta rikostilastoissa, koulumenestyksestä, työttömyydestä vaiko sosiaalitukien vastaanottamisessa?" !!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 28.11.2021, 20:10:30
Quote from: akez on 27.11.2021, 21:49:34
"Turvaton tila" on hokema, jonka eräät piirit ovat keksineet ja omaksuneet poliittiseen jargoniinsa ja propagandaan poliittisista agit prop -syistä. Käsittääkseni se viitaa jotenkin siihen, että joku homo tai transsu pelkää saavansa turpiinsa (kenties kun meni kourimaan väärän henkilön munia baarin vessassa). "Turvaton tila" ei kuitenkaan realisoidu, jos valkoinen eksyy no-go-zonelle. Eikä myöskään jos homo tai transsu joutuu muslimien ympäröimäksi ja pahasti mulkoilemaksi. Sellaiset sattumukset ovat jotakin sellaista, josta voke ei kykene sanomaan enää mitään järjellistä.

"Turvaton tila" ei siten liity neekeri-sanaan, vaan se tuli mukaan kun tyhjäntoimittelija alkoi sulakkeiden poliittisista syistä lauettu ladella monologia ennalta ohjelmoiduilla poliittisilla iskusanoilla ja käsitejargonilla. Siksi puheiden logiikka ei pysynyt kasassa, koska sitä ei ollut alun perinkään, ja siksi katsojalle jäi jäljelle vain hyvin vinksahtanut vaikutelma kyseisestä paasaajasta. Voi katsoa, että tuossa ei toimittu enää itsellisenä persoonana, vaan eräänlaisena ohjelmoituna poliittisena marionettina ja bulvaanina. Tuo vuodatus oli oiva demonstraatio newspeakista.

Kommunismin aikaisen kielipelin hyvin tunteneen puolalaisprofessorin analyysi asiasta:

Prof. Michał Głowiński – Uuskielen olemus ja sen analysointi (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,128460.msg3047191.html#msg3047191)

EDIT lisätty viittaus newspeakiin

Kiitos linkistä. Hämmästyttävää, kuinka samanlaisiin ajatuksiin ja loppupäätelmiin tulin omissa mietteissäni, kuin mistä puolalaisprofessori kirjoittaa. En vain osannut pukea ajatuksiani yhtä täsmällisesti kuin Głowiński (annettakoon se anteeksi, kun en ole lingvisti). Esimerkiksi woke-puheen ritualistinen sävy, ja se, kuinka loogisesti ristiriitaisena se hajoaa kuin savu tuuleen kun sitä tarkastelee kriittisemmin. Juuri tätä havainnoin itsekin.

Alunperin minua häiritsi juuri "turvallisen tilan" käsitteen mielestäni epäilyttävä, jotenkin liukkaalta mutta silti samealta tuntuva, jäteöljymäinen sävy. Vaikea kuvata, mutta ymmärrätte ehkä mitä tarkoitan. Tämähän on tavallaan juuri sellainen (virheellinen, mutta tehokas) dikotomia, josta Głowińskikin kirjoitti. Propagandatarkoituksessa tuo käsite on kuitenkin suorastaan nerokas, sillä ihmiset yleensä käsittävät "tilan" yhteiseksi, jolloin se kuin huomaamatta - alitajuisesti - yleistää yksityisen tulkinnan koskettamaan kaikkia tilassa olevia. Lisäksi se implisiittisesti vihjaa, että tila on turvaton jostakin syystä - eli käytännössä jonkun ihmisen toiminnasta johtuen. Kyseessä on siis eräänlainen käsitteellinen troijan hevonen, joka emotionaalisella tasolla pyrkii vierittämään vastuun kokijan tunnereaktiosta jonkun muun syyksi, verhoten sen mahdollisimman viattomiksi mutta useimpien korvissa uskottavilta vaikuttaviksi käsitteiksi. Tästä on käytetty usein termiä uhriutuminen, ja sitähän se tavallaan onkin, mutta minusta on perusteltua kutsua sitä tilanteesta riippuen myös emotionaaliseksi manipuloinniksi.

Psykologian ja psykiatrian kontekstissa puhutaan usein turvallisuudesta, se on olennainen osa terapeuttista hoitosuhdetta. Mutta olennainen ero on tässä: esimerkiksi ahdistuneisuushäiriöiden hoidossa pyritään yleensä tukemaan subjektia tutkimaan ja kyseenalaistamaan omia tulkintojaan turvallisella tavalla pyrkien välttämään ajatusten ja tunteiden mustavalkoista lisäleimaamista. Moni ahdistushäiriöstä kärsivä on ehtinyt esimerkiksi kehittää oireistoa äärimmäiseen turvakäyttäytymiseen (epämukavien tilanteiden välttely, omista tunteista vastuun ottamisen vaikeus ja jämäkkyyden puute, erilaiset ahdistuksen lievitykseen tähtäävät rituaalit, pakko-oireet jne.), ollen neuroottisella tavalla turvallisuushakuinen. Paradoksaalista kyllä, yleensä turvallisuushakuisuus vain kasvattaa ahdistusta. Olenko ainoa, joka näkee ainakin jonkinlaista tarttumapintaa woke-ilmiöön? Woke-soturille vika on aina oman itsen ulkopuolella; rasismissa, rakenteissa, syrjinnässä, valkoisessa miehessä, yksittäisissä sanoissa. "Katsokaa, maailman on muututtava, sillä minä olen uhri, ja minä olen oikeassa!"


Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 20:25:46
Quote from: Tomatoface on 28.11.2021, 17:50:01
Vuosia noiden kanssa on yritetty keskustella järkevästi. Turhaan.

Omalta osaltani puheet on puhuttu.

"We have to have these conversations" = teidän on kuunneltava ja uskottava hevonpaskamme.

Rodullistettu. Turvallinen tila. Mikroaggressiot. Keskusteluita. Rakenteet. Etuoikeutetut. Syrjäytetyt. Valkoisuus. Ruskeus. Valko- tai heteronormatiivisuus. Kaikki -fobiat. Nämä ovat kaikki selviä varoitusmerkkejä siitä että keskustelu ei ole tarkoituksena eikä keskustelu voi johtaa mihinkään. Paradoksaalisesti keskustelu on kuitenkin tavoitteena, koska se on metodi - loputon keskustelu joka tuottaa aina vain uusia uhripositioita ja -kategorioita.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 28.11.2021, 21:25:42
Quote from: Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi on 28.11.2021, 17:30:21
Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 27.11.2021, 23:54:34
QuoteMarja Sannikan "woke-jakso" oli malliesimerkki siitä, mikä kaikki suomalaisessa rasismikeskustelussa on pielessä – ja miksi ihonväristä pitää puhua
https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000008426002.html

Tuo woken ja interfeministien suusta viime aikoina säännöllisesti kuultu "ihonväristä pitää alkaa puhumaan" on pelkkää sumutusta.

Nuivettunut nenetsi sen tuossa tiivisti. Enää ei olla "värisokeita" ihonvärille, vaan siitä on puhuttava, koska valkoisen miehen alistamille roduille on tehtävä oikeutta ja kohennettava heidän epätasa-arvoista asemaansa. ROTU ON TULLUT TAKAISIN.

Ei kuitenkaan sillä tavalla, että katsottaisiin, minkä rotuiset taksikuskit raiskaavat tai mikä oli amerikkalaisen joulukulkueen lahdanneen autokuskin ihonväri.

Woke-ideologiassa alistetuista roduista pitää puhua hyvää kunnes tämä johtaa siihen, että rotujen väliset elintasoerot ovat tasoittuneet ja virheelliset kielteiset mielikuvat ovat kadonneet. (ja kaikki kielteiset mielikuvat ovat aina vääriä) Näin saavutetaan oikeudenmukainen tasapaino rotujen välisiin "valtasuhteisiin".

Nykyiset valtasuhteet ovat vinoja ja siksi ne oikeuttavat "positiiviseen syrjintään" eli neekerikiintiöihin eri asioissa. Tämä kehitys on Suomessakin alkanut. Yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutettu katsoo, että tämä ei johda kenenkään yksilön suosimiseen eikä toisen syrjintään, koska vastakkain tällöin ovat ryhmät, eivätkä yksilöt. Jos Abdullah pääsee Einon ohi oppilaitokseen ja pudottaa paremmat pisteet tehneen Einon ulos, ei Einoa ole yksilönä syrjitty, vaan ainoastaan tasoitettu etuoikeuksia roturyhmien välillä.

Tämä on Suomessa juristien tulkintaa jo nyt. Positiivinen syrjintä on jo vuosia ollut hyväksytty, ja tarkoittaa, että ihonvärille ei olla värisokeita. Mädätys on pitemmällä kuin moni uskoo.






Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 28.11.2021, 21:29:05
Iltalehdessä (https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/ec9b6e3e-420c-4c0b-a8a3-0c58d0213a8f) tänään voke-kultista. Tässä alkua jutusta.

QuoteTiedätkö mitä on cancelointi, intersektionaalisuus ja tonepolicing? Tässä woke-suomi-woke-sanakirja

Woke-kulttuuri termistöineen on herättänyt keskustelua Sannikka-kohun jälkeen. Kokosimme nykyään nettikeskusteluissa usein käytettyjä sanoja heille, joille ne vielä ovat vieraita.


Antirasismi

Antirasismi on aktiivista ja tietoista toimintaa kaikkia rasismin muotoja vastaan. Antirasistista toimintaa on se työ, joka vähentää etnistä syrjintää, syrjivien käytäntöjen vaikutuksia ja kielteisiä ennakkoluuloja. Oman ymmärryksen lisääminen rasismista on antirasismin keskiössä. Ymmärrys rasismin historiallisista ja rakenteellisista ulottuvuuksista, sekä niiden vaikutuksista rasismia kohtaavaan ihmiseen ja laajemmin yhteiskuntaan, on oleellista. Ymmärrystä ja tietoisuutta lisätään omalla aktiivisella toiminnalla – etniseen tai uskonnolliseen vähemmistöön tai alkuperäiskansaan kuuluvia ihmisiä kuormittamatta, kerrotaan oikeusministeriön ja yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutetun syksyllä käynnistämän Olen Antirasisti -kampanjan sivuilla.

Cancel-kulttuuri

Cancel-kulttuuri on kriittinen käsite Trumpin aikakaudella näkyväksi noussutta nettiaktivismia kohtaan, jonka tavoitteena on eristää eristäjien mielestä vääriä mielipiteitä esittävä ihminen sosiaalisesta piiristään, asettaa hänet boikottiin, loata maine tai esimerkiksi saada hänet menettämään työpaikkansa. Henkilö nostetaan tilivelvolliseksi ongelmallisista puheista. Toimintaa on kritisoitu siitä, että henkilö on paljon muutakin kuin yksi teko tai sanominen. Vääriä mielipiteitä voidaan etsiä jopa kymmeniä vuosia vanhoista blogeista, päivityksistä ja lehtiartikkeleista, jotka on julkaistu aivan eri aikakaudella. Cancel-kulttuuri on suomennettu esimerkiksi vaientamis- tai tuomitsemiskulttuuriksi.

Callouttaaminen

Callout-kulttuurilla viitataan digitaalisen median ympäristöissä yleistyneeseen ilmiöön, jossa ihmiset julkisesti nostavat esiin toistensa usein poliittisesti epäkorrekteja sanoja ja tekoja. Internetissä syntynyt termi ei ole saanut nasevaa suomennosta, joten joudumme tyytymään yhä kömpelöön "finglishiin". To call out kääntyy suoraan huutamiseksi, huudahtamiseksi, paikalle huutamiseksi ja lakkoon kehotukseksi. Usein callout-kulttuuri liitetään feministiseen aktivismiin, jossa omien käsitysten ja ajattelumallien korjaaminen uuden tiedon valossa nähdään hyveenä. Callouttaamisesta on kuitenkin tullut olennainen osa kaikenlaista digitaalisessa mediassa käytävää keskustelua. Ihmiset callouttaavat esimerkiksi rasistisia, seksistisiä, ableistisia, trans- tai homofobisia sanoja ja tekoja.
(...)

Oikaisen ensimmäistä kohtaa. Antirasismi on tosiasiassa uusrasismia, jonka tarkoituksena on uusintaa rasismia joka päivä joidenkin hämärien poliittisten pyrkimysten takia. Käytössä ovat rasistiset kategoriat, ja yksilö eliminoidaan pois, sekä redusoidaan pelkäsi nahanväriksi. Pääosin tätä harjoittaa äärivasemmisto ja nyt näemmä myös Suomen oikeusministeriö ja yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutettu. Liekö lustraatio jo paikallaan?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 28.11.2021, 21:41:06
Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 20:25:46
Quote from: Tomatoface on 28.11.2021, 17:50:01
Vuosia noiden kanssa on yritetty keskustella järkevästi. Turhaan.

Omalta osaltani puheet on puhuttu.

"We have to have these conversations" = teidän on kuunneltava ja uskottava hevonpaskamme.

Rodullistettu. Turvallinen tila. Mikroaggressiot. Keskusteluita. Rakenteet. Etuoikeutetut. Syrjäytetyt. Valkoisuus. Ruskeus. Valko- tai heteronormatiivisuus. Kaikki -fobiat. Nämä ovat kaikki selviä varoitusmerkkejä siitä että keskustelu ei ole tarkoituksena eikä keskustelu voi johtaa mihinkään. Paradoksaalisesti keskustelu on kuitenkin tavoitteena, koska se on metodi - loputon keskustelu joka tuottaa aina vain uusia uhripositioita ja -kategorioita.

Noista termeistä saisi hevosenpaskabingon. Tähän ketjuun voisi listata kaikki nuo intersektionaaliset ja wokepäiset termit. Listasta tulisi aika pitkä. Ne on suoraan tuotu Amerikan yliopistoita ja käännetty suomeksi, hyvin kömpelöillä käännöksillä.

Pyydän anteeksi hevosenpaskalta. Hevosenpaska on hyödyllinen kun se sopii mullan parannusaineeksi pellolle ja puutarhaan ja parantaa näin kasvua.

Valkoisia demonisoivia sanoja "etuoikeus" ja "etuoikeutettu" vastaan pitäisi käydä sanoilla "velvollisuus" ja "velvoitettu". Myös sanat "pakko" ja "pakotettu" kävisivät myös. Kyse kun on todellisuudessa velvollisuudesta ja pakosta.

"Rakenteet" on huvittava termi. Onko se "structure" vai "institution" intersektionaalis-woke-amerikaksi? Ne jotka sanovat vastustavansa "rakenteita", "rakenteellista rasismia" tai "rakenteellista syrintää", ovat niitä jotka ovat itse luoneet ne rakenteet ja pitävät niitä nytkin hallussaan. Kuullostaa aika huvittavalta. Tajuavatko he sitä itse? Ovatko he siis itseään vastaan ja vastustavatko he itseään?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 28.11.2021, 21:56:36
Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 20:25:46
"We have to have these conversations" = teidän on kuunneltava ja uskottava hevonpaskamme.
...

Tulee mieleen Hitchhikers Guide to Galaxies -kirjassa mainittu Vogonien runous (https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Vogon_poetry#:~:text=Vogon%20poetry%20is%20a%20variety%20of%20poetry%2C%20often,Galaxy%2C%20Vogon%20poetry%20is%20the%20third%20worst%20):

QuoteVogon poetry

Vogon poetry is a variety of poetry, often considered to be one of the worst. It is sometimes used by the Vogons as a torture method, as it causes physical pain to the hearer. A notable example of this was when they tortured Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent after the Dentrassis let them hitchhike onto the ship.

According to the The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Vogon poetry is the third worst in the Universe. The second worst is that of the Azgoths of Kria, and the worst is by Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings of Sussex, who perished along with her poetry during the destruction of Earth, ironically caused by the Vogons themselves. Vogon poetry is seen as mild by comparison.

An example of Vogon poetry

Oh freddled gruntbuggly,
Thy micturations are to me, (with big yawning)
As plurdled gabbleblotchits, in midsummer morning
On a lurgid bee,
That mordiously hath blurted out,
Its earted jurtles, grumbling
Into a rancid festering confectious organ squealer. [drowned out by moaning and screaming]
Now the jurpling slayjid agrocrustles,
Are slurping hagrilly up the axlegrurts,
And living glupules frart and stipulate,
Like jowling meated liverslime,
Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes,
And hooptiously drangle me,
With crinkly bindlewurdles,mashurbitries.
Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon,
See if I don't!
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 28.11.2021, 21:59:42
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 28.11.2021, 21:41:06
Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 20:25:46

"We have to have these conversations" = teidän on kuunneltava ja uskottava hevonpaskamme.

Rodullistettu. Turvallinen tila. Mikroaggressiot. Keskusteluita. Rakenteet. Etuoikeutetut. Syrjäytetyt. Valkoisuus. Ruskeus. Valko- tai heteronormatiivisuus. Kaikki -fobiat. Nämä ovat kaikki selviä varoitusmerkkejä siitä että keskustelu ei ole tarkoituksena eikä keskustelu voi johtaa mihinkään. Paradoksaalisesti keskustelu on kuitenkin tavoitteena, koska se on metodi - loputon keskustelu joka tuottaa aina vain uusia uhripositioita ja -kategorioita.

Noista termeistä saisi hevosenpaskabingon. Tähän ketjuun voisi listata kaikki nuo intersektionaaliset ja wokepäiset termit. Listasta tulisi aika pitkä.

Pyydän anteeksi hevosenpaskalta. Hevosenpaska on hyödyllinen kun se sopii mullan parannusaineeksi pellolle ja puutarhaan ja parantaa näin kasvua.

Heh. Lista saa kysymään, onko ihmiskunnan historiassa ylipäätään ensimmäistäkään tapausta, jossa ihmisten sosiaalinen tilanne (yhdessä ja erillisine vuorovaikutuksineen) olisi yleisesti ottaen parantunut sillä, että asioista tehdään monimutkaisempia. Kielellisesti, tahii muuten.

Ei nyt tule ensimmäistäkään mieleen.


Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eisernes Kreuz on 28.11.2021, 22:19:19
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 28.11.2021, 21:41:06
Noista termeistä saisi hevosenpaskabingon. Tähän ketjuun voisi listata kaikki nuo intersektionaaliset ja wokepäiset termit. Listasta tulisi aika pitkä. Ne on suoraan tuotu Amerikan yliopistoita ja käännetty suomeksi, hyvin kömpelöillä käännöksillä.

Käsitteet tulevat tosiaan suoraan jenkkiyliopistoista ja ovat joko kömpelösti käännettyjä tai sitten kokonaan alkuperäisessä asussaan.

Siellä on tosiaan koko joukko korkeasti koulutettuja tutkijoita ja professoreja kehittelemässä hevonpaskabingoon jatkuvasti uutta sisältöä. Tämä olisi epäilemättä naurettavaa, ellei kyse olisi vakavasta yhteiskunnallisesta ilmiöstä, joka pyrkii aktiivisesti levittäytymään kaikille aloille ja ottamaan hyvin aggressiivisesti tilan haltuun sen sijaan, että jäisi yliopiston norsunluutorneihin pienen piirin iloksi.

Esko Valtaoja, joka varmasti on ns. perinteinen suvaitsevainen ja hyvä ihminen, sai äskettäin kokea tämän fanatismin henkilökohtaisesti. Varmasti se tuli hänelle yllätyksenä, kuten monelle muullekin liberaalille, joka on uskonut olevansa historian oikealla puolella. Mutta säännötpä ovatkin nyt muuttuneet.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 22:25:22
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 28.11.2021, 21:41:06

Noista termeistä saisi hevosenpaskabingon. Tähän ketjuun voisi listata kaikki nuo intersektionaaliset ja wokepäiset termit. Listasta tulisi aika pitkä. Ne on suoraan tuotu Amerikan yliopistoita ja käännetty suomeksi, hyvin kömpelöillä käännöksillä.

Pyydän anteeksi hevosenpaskalta. Hevosenpaska on hyödyllinen kun se sopii mullan parannusaineeksi pellolle ja puutarhaan ja parantaa näin kasvua.

Valkoisia demonisoivia sanoja "etuoikeus" ja "etuoikeutettu" vastaan pitäisi käydä sanoilla "velvollisuus" ja "velvoitettu". Myös sanat "pakko" ja "pakotettu" kävisivät myös. Kyse kun on todellisuudessa velvollisuudesta ja pakosta.

"Rakenteet" on huvittava termi. Onko se "structure" vai "institution" intersektionaalis-woke-amerikaksi? Ne jotka sanovat vastustavansa "rakenteita", "rakenteellista rasismia" tai "rakenteellista syrintää", ovat niitä jotka ovat itse luoneet ne rakenteet ja pitävät niitä nytkin hallussaan. Kuullostaa aika huvittavalta. Tajuavatko he sitä itse? Ovatko he siis itseään vastaan ja vastustavatko he itseään?

Huonot käännökset eivät ole suurin rikos vaan se että Amerikan koko historiallinen syntisäkki orjuuksineen siirretään sellaisenaan Eurooppaan, jopa vanhoihin köyhälöihin kuten Suomi, Irlanti ja ex-sovbloc. Täältä ei yksinkertaisesti löydy väkisin maahan tuotuja joita olisi ylinsukupolvien alistettu ja riistetty. Siksi pitää tarttua oljenkorsiin, kuten saamelaisiin ja romaneihin. Mutta afro on se korkein huippu uhripyramidissa, sitten muut ruskean sävyt.

Meillä ei yksinkertaisesti ole osaa ja arpaa afrojen syrjinnässä historiallisesti. Silti somalit kehtaavat valittaa kun fubut eivät ole tarpeeksi muodikkaat, asunnot tarpeeksi isot eikä Muhis päässyt lääkikseen vaikka osaa pomputtaa palloa päällään.

Ketään ei ole tuotu eikä pidetä väkisin Suomessa kärsimässä. Silti meidän pitää muuttua, ja muuttaa yhteiskuntamme afrojen mieleiseksi. How about no?
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 28.11.2021, 23:17:10
Quote from: Eisernes Kreuz on 28.11.2021, 22:19:19
Esko Valtaoja, joka varmasti on ns. perinteinen suvaitsevainen ja hyvä ihminen, sai äskettäin kokea tämän fanatismin henkilökohtaisesti. Varmasti se tuli hänelle yllätyksenä, kuten monelle muullekin liberaalille, joka on uskonut olevansa historian oikealla puolella. Mutta säännötpä ovatkin nyt muuttuneet.

Näin se valitettavasti menee. Ei paina professorin ura ja meriitit tieteen popularisoijana mitään, ei edes dialogiin perustuva kirja tieteen ja uskonnon välisen suhteen pohtimisesta. Ei liioin merkitse mitään kokemus kosmoksen mittakaavasta, ei ihmiskunnan menneisyyden ja tulevaisuuden pohdinta. Ei edes osallistuminen nenäpäivään.

Kysymys ei tietenkään ole koskaan edes ollut siitä mitä olet varsinaisesti tehnyt elämäsi aikana, vaan siitä mitä et ole tehnyt. Ja woke-oppi sanelee, ettet ole tehnyt tarpeeksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 29.11.2021, 01:50:27
Tämä taitaa olla vähän OT, mutta kun Esko Valtaojasta on tässä nyt ollut paljon juttua, niin voisi nostaa yhden hänen kirjoituksistaan esiin.

https://www.ts.fi/puheenvuorot/4096560/Esko+Valtaoja+++Ihmisarvosta+ja+ihmisen+arvosta (https://www.ts.fi/puheenvuorot/4096560/Esko+Valtaoja+++Ihmisarvosta+ja+ihmisen+arvosta) (25.9.2018)

Quote"Minun mielestäni on aivan outo ja loukkaava ajatus, että Esko Valtaoja ei olisi arvokkaampi kuin joku Juha Valjakkala, Helena Lindgren tai asematunnelissa seinää kannatteleva maahanmuuttaja. Kunnes joku kertoo minulle, että miten niin kaikki ovat samanarvoisia, olen edellä sanotusta seuraten sitä mieltä, että erilaisuus on eriarvoisuutta ja että kaikki ovat eriarvoisia."

Jussi Halla-ahon vanha kirjoitus nousee aina mieleeni, kun luen äärioikeistolaisuuden noususta eri puolilla maailmaa. Siinä kiteytyy populismin ydin: ihmisiä voi ja täytyy asettaa järjestykseen. Kaikki ovat eriarvoisia, ja meidän tulee pitää huolta ennen kaikkea meikäläisistä.

Kiitän Halla-ahoa minua kohtaan osoittamastaan arvostuksesta, mutta sanoudun irti hänen ajatuksistaan. Jussi on sekoittanut pahasti keskenään ihmisarvon ja ihmisen arvon. Yritän tietysti olla arvokkaampi ihmiskunnalle kuin murhaajat ja tyhjäntoimittajat. Mutta mahdollinen onnistumiseni on pitkälti seurausta geenilotosta, syntymämaasta ja moukan tuurista. Ajatus, että ihmisarvoni riippuisi asioista, joihin en ole voinut vaikuttaa, on minusta ruokoton.

Populismissa, nationalismissa ja muissa kurssin kääntämiseen pyrkivissä aatesuunnissa ei pohjimmiltaan ole kyse sellaisista ohimenevistä asioista kuin maahanmuutto, vaan arvoista. Mitkä arvot me haluamme valita elämän ja yhteiskunnan perusteiksi?

Ankea totuus on, että arvoja ei ole annettu meille jumalansanana, eikä niitä voida johtaa logiikasta tai luonnonlaeista. Ne ovat viime kädessä valintoja. Minä valitsen arvoni näin, Jussi Halla-aho valitsee täysin vastakkaisesti. (...)

Ja mitäs Hallis sanoikaan siinä "vanhassa kirjoituksessa"?

https://www.halla-aho.com/scripta/ihmisarvosta.html (https://www.halla-aho.com/scripta/ihmisarvosta.html)

Quote13.4.2005
Ihmisarvosta

Aksioomalla tarkoitetaan väitettä, jonka totuudellisuus on niin ilmeinen, ettei sitä tarvitse erikseen perustella. Lienee aksiomaattista (pun intended), että myönnettäessä väitteille aksiooman statusta pitäisi olla erityisen varovainen. Väitteen pitäisi mielellään olla sellainen, että sen voidaan todeta olevan ja olleen totta kaikkialla ja aina.

Yksi nykyajan aksioomista on, että kaikilla ihmisillä on ihmisarvo, ja että tuo ihmisarvo on kaikilla ihmisillä samansuuruinen. Pahinkin rasisti ja antiegalitaristi yrittää yleensä mahduttaa ihmisarvoaksiooman omaan teoreettiseen kuvioonsa. Aksiooman kieltäminen on kerta kaikkiaan epäkorrektia.

Jos väitetään, että kaikki ovat samanarvoisia, väitetään samalla, että ihmisen arvo tunnetaan ja se voidaan mitata. Ellei sitä voida mitata, ei voida todentaa, miten paljon kullakin yksilöllä on sitä. Mikään ulkoa (taivaasta) tuleva ominaisuus ihmisarvo ei voi olla, tai ainakaan sitä ei voida sellaiseksi osoittaa, koska sitä ei ole kirjoitettu tähtiin, vesiin eikä kallioihin. Itse asiassa mikään ei viittaa siihen, että ihmisten yhtäläinen arvokkuus (tai ylipäänsä arvokkuus) olisi mitään muuta kuin ajallemme tyypillinen konventio ja julistus, samanlainen kuin menneiden aikojen aksioomat: "aurinko kiertää maata", "paavi on erehtymätön", "naisella ei ole sielua", "itsetyydytys aiheuttaa likinäköisyyttä". Jälkimmäisiin on aikanaan uskottu aivan yhtä sokeasti kuin nykyään samanarvoisuuteen. Niiden tueksi on ollut yhtä vähän mitattavaa evidenssiä kuin on samanarvoisuuden tueksi. Koska niitä ei ole voitu perustella, ne on julistettu aksioomiksi, joita ei tarvitse perustella.

Ainoa mitattava ja siten kiistatta olemassaoleva ihmisarvo on yksilön instrumentaalinen arvo. Yksilöt voidaan perustellusti asettaa arvohierarkiaan sen mukaan, miten paljon heidän kykyjensä tai osaamisensa poistaminen yhteisön käytöstä heikentäisi yhteisöä. (...)

Omasta mielestäni tuo Eskon kirjoitus kertoo aika paljon. Ei minkäänlaista yritystäkään siihen, että olisi pyrkinyt edes vähän miettimään, mitä Hallis tuossa omassa kirjoituksessaan pyrki sanomaan. Vastaako Eskon kirjoituksesta saatu käsitys "ihmisarvosta" sitä, mitä Hallis pyrki kirjoituksessaan tuomaan esiin. No ei. Kunhan nappasi sieltä sopivan palan, vääristeli sitä, ja alkoi sen perusteella julkisesti öyhöttämään, moraalisäteilemään ja haukkumaan "äärioikeistoa". Ja tuo Eskon kirjoitus oli siis 13 vuotta Halliksen kirjoituksen jälkeen... Woken "hyödyllinen idiootti" vailla vertaa. Luulenpa, että Esko vielä painuu polvilleen ja pyytää anteeksi kaikkia tekemiään vääryyksiä, koska miten sitä muuten enää niitä moraaliposeerauspisteitä saisi kerättyä. Toinen vaihtoehto on se, että kaverista ei kuulla enää mitään.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 30.11.2021, 02:34:37
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 27.11.2021, 18:54:54
Kun lukee näitä woke-väen lausuntoja, ihmettelee, mistä Teuvo Hakkarainen tuomittiin. 

Hakkarainen sanoi, että kaikki muslimit eivät ole terroristeja, mutta kaikki terroristit ovat muslimeja. Tuomio tuli jälkimmäisestä.

Woket sanovat, että kaikki valkoiset ovat rasisteja ja kaikki rasistit ovat valkoisia. Seurauksena aplodeja  ja ilmoitus, että taustalla on toki hyvä tarkoitus.

Tähän on pakko kertoa anekdoottina omakohtaisia kokemuksia Singaporen lentokentältä. Siellä pistettiin kyykkyyn tämmöistä afrikan tulijaa oikein niin että jestas sentään. Tekijöinä siis S'pore natiivi kiinalaistaustaiset, ei yhtäkään valkoista missään muualla kun katsomassa vierestä hassusti.

Tämä tapahtui joskus milleniumin jälkeen, se oli eka kerta kun näin ihan oikeaa rasismia livenä. Mitään niin törkeää en ole nähnyt sen jälkeen missään, mitä nyt Lousianassa poliisi laittoi mustaa miestä maahan neljän partion voimin... Mutta on ihan uskomantonta löpö löpöä että muka vain valkoiset voi olla rasisteja...



Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: räsänen on 30.11.2021, 08:09:23
Quote from: zupi on 29.11.2021, 01:50:27
Omasta mielestäni tuo Eskon kirjoitus kertoo aika paljon. Ei minkäänlaista yritystäkään siihen, että olisi pyrkinyt edes vähän miettimään, mitä Hallis tuossa omassa kirjoituksessaan pyrki sanomaan. Vastaako Eskon kirjoituksesta saatu käsitys "ihmisarvosta" sitä, mitä Hallis pyrki kirjoituksessaan tuomaan esiin. No ei. Kunhan nappasi sieltä sopivan palan, vääristeli sitä, ja alkoi sen perusteella julkisesti öyhöttämään, moraalisäteilemään ja haukkumaan "äärioikeistoa". Ja tuo Eskon kirjoitus oli siis 13 vuotta Halliksen kirjoituksen jälkeen... Woken "hyödyllinen idiootti" vailla vertaa. Luulenpa, että Esko vielä painuu polvilleen ja pyytää anteeksi kaikkia tekemiään vääryyksiä, koska miten sitä muuten enää niitä moraaliposeerauspisteitä saisi kerättyä. Toinen vaihtoehto on se, että kaverista ei kuulla enää mitään.


Ei välttämättä polvistu, enkä tarkoita sillä sitä, että Esko Valtaoja olisi suoraselkäinen mies joka pitää kiinni mielipiteistään. Kyllä tuossa Valtaojan touhussa heijastuu aika vahva opportunismi ja älyllinen laiskuus. Jos 8 henkilöä kymmenestä on sitä mieltä, että on ihan ok potkia Halla-ahoa ja olla tarkoituksella ymmärtämättä Jussin ajatuksia niin aika moni vain itseään ajatteleva opportunisti siihen sortuu ja onkin sortunut. Varsinkin kun Halla-ahon ajatusten lyttäämisestä saa paljon moraalipisteitä, selkääntaputuksia ja lisäjulkisuutta esim. Soinin tapaan. Eli olisiko Valtaoja vähän laiska, mukavuudenhaluinen ja pelkuri? Noista aineksista saa leivottua ihan mielettömän hyvän opportunistin.

Tämä sama asetelmä tuli mieleen eilen kun katselin Sanna Ukkolan keskusteluohjelman woketuksesta. Löytyy tuolta hetken aikaa -->  https://www.permanto.fi/fi/web/alfatv/player/vod?assetId=138401097

Ohjelma oli siksikin mielenkiintoinen että se on ammattimainen ja siinä oli em. asetelma täysin päälaellaan kun mitä normaalisti näissä keskusteluohjelmissa on. Keskustelemassa olivat Ivan Puopolo, Katleena Kortesuo, Tuomas Peltomäki ja juontaja siis Ukkola. Näistä ainoastaan Peltomäki on (kai?) nk. vaemmistolaishenkinen wokettaja ja muilla, juontaja mukaan lukien, olikin varsin konservatiiviset ajatukset. Muut olivat siis sitä mieltä että woketus on syvältä. En tunne Peltomäkeä enkä Kortesuota, joten mielikuvani heistä ovat vain ja ainoastaan tämän ohjelma varassa. 

Peltomäki yrittää tuossa ohjelmassa haastaa muita ja puolustella woketusta mutta ilmeisesti hänkin on Eskon lailla laiska, mukavuudenhaluinen ja pelkuri niin ei oikein haaste lähtenyt lentoon. Hän jättää ajatuksensa totaalisesti kesken ja taipuu koska nyt ei olekaan tarjolla selkääntaputuksia woketuksesta. Hänen heittonsa olivat oikeastaan aika säälittäviä, eikä pelkästään katsojan mielestä vaan mm. Puopolo selvästi jarrutteli vastatessaan niihin eikä lähtenyt lyttäämään kovinkaan kovakouraisesti Peltomäen onttoja vasuriajatuksia.

Jos tämän tyyppinen asetelma olisi tässä valtakunnassa vallalla, vasurimeiningin sijaan, niin uskon että Esko Valtaojakin ymmärtäisi varsin hyvin mitä Jussi Halla-aho tarkoitti yli kymmenen vuoden takaisilla kirjoituksillaan ihmisarvosta.



Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: VesaH on 03.12.2021, 06:25:34
Tässä muutama linkki sivustoihin, joissa Renaz Ebrahimia esitellään. Niissä olevista kuvista voi jokainen käydä tarkistamassa hänen ihonvärinsä. Itse hän määrittelee itsensä ruskeaihoiseksi.

https://www.speakersforum.fi/renaz.ebrahimi

https://ilmastoareena.fi/2021/puhuja/renaz-ebrahimi/

Olenkohan minä värisokea.

Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 03.12.2021, 16:17:22
Jätänpä nyt vain tämän "26-vuotiaan syvästi tiedostamattoman hipin" kirjoituksen tähän.

[tweet]1465649137584586753[/tweet]

https://twitter.com/aivokirurgi/status/1465649137584586753 (https://twitter.com/aivokirurgi/status/1465649137584586753)

QuoteKirjoitan nyt sellaisen ihmisen näkökulmasta, joka on jättänyt intersektionaalisen feminismin.

"Woke" ujuttautui salakavalasti elämääni kun olin vaikutuksille altis ja hyväuskoinen nuori, joka vietti vapaa-aikansa tietokoneella. Seurasin somessa tuntemattomia ihmisiä ympäri maailmaa, yhdistävänä tekijänä mielenkiinnonkohteet ja harmiton fanityttöily. Ohessa alkoi kasvavissa määrin tulemaan ulkomaalaista kansalaisaktivismia ja politiikkaa, minkä myötä luin jatkuvasti sortokertomuksia ja nuorten naisten hautomia ajatuksia naisten sosiaalisesta asemasta yhteiskunnassa.

Uskoin löytäneeni itselleni sopivan yhteisön, jossa ihmisiä yhdisti rakkaus ihmisiin, eläimiin ja luontoon. Tunsin olevani osa tärkeää muutosta. Oli aiheena sitten IF, LGBT, BLM tai ilmastonmuutos, valitsin aina hyvisten puolen. "Kuka nyt ei?!"

Alussa uskoin asiaani toden teolla. Muistan kun oli vain LGBT. Sitten tuli LGBT+. Sateenkaari ei enää riittänyt kuvastamaan seksuaalisuuden kirjoa: Pride-lippuun liitettiin sukupuolia ja ihonvärejä. Biseksuaaleja kutsuttiin transfobisiksi (nyt sama käsitys taitaa koskettaa myös homoja ja lesboja). Käsitys sukupuolesta muuttui. Rasismi uudelleenmääriteltiin. Cancelointi ja mellakointi nähtiin oikeudenmukaisena toimintana. Ihmisten puheet tunnuttiin tulkittavan pahimmalla mahdollisella tavalla. Se uuden aallon feminismi, jonka alussa puhuttiin naisista ja sosiaalisesta oikeudenmukaisuudesta muuttui puheiksi valkoisten cisnaisten etuoikeuksista.

Hyväntahtoisuuteni vuoksi nielin puheet etuoikeuksista ja valtasuhteista. Mielsin itseni moderniksi ja edistykselliseksi naiseksi, joka taistelee hyvän asian puolesta. Halusin antaa tilaa vähemmistöille ja toimia heidän äänitorvenaan; tajusin kuitenkin, ettei vähemmistöäänet aina puhuneet samaan sävyyn. Jo opin sisäistetyn seksismin, rasismin ja homofobian käsitteet.

Kun hyvin aikein istahtaa oikeamielisten pöytään, on vaikea ymmärtää miksi kukaan olisi eri mieltä asioista. Keskustelut noudattivat käsikirjoitusta, jokainen argumentti puolesta tai vastaan oli pidemmän päälle jo kuultu. Syyteltiin äärioikeiston trolleja ja venäläisiä botteja, koska keskustelu ei koskaan edennyt "perustasoa" pidemmälle; uskon nyt, että woket ovat vain epäonnistuneet vakuuttamaan muut intersektionaalisen feminismin perusasioista. Asioille syntyi uusia merkityksiä aina kun se tuntui sopivan keskusteluun. Kun joku argumentoi wokea vastaan, tuntui aina löytyvän selitys: valtasuhteet, rakenteet, etuoikeudet, valeuutisointi, sisäistetty ja tiedostamaton viha. Lähes joka toinen argumentti oli ihmisoikeuksiin vetoamista. Kun joku syytti intersektionaalista feminismiä rasistiseksi, todettiin, ettei valkoisia kohtaan voi olla rasistinen. Asioita vääristeltiin. Väitettiin, että huonot olosuhteet tai lähtökohdat (jotka olivat tietenkin rakenteellinen ja rasistinen ongelma) ajavat ihmisen väistämättä huonoihin valintoihin; ihminen itse ei voi määritellä suuntaa elämälleen.

Intersektionaalinen feminismi ei ole yksi asia. Se on sata asiaa. Minä naiivisti halusin olla kaikkien puolella mutta miten kukaan voi todellisesti allekirjoittaa kaiken, mitä IF edustaa? Miten ihmeessä kuvittelin, että olisi niin pesunkestävä ideologia, ettei yksikään argumentti horjuta sen wokea; puolustus oli lopulta rakennettu tunteisiin vetoavalle propagandalle, vääristelylle ja historian muuttamiselle. En ole koskaan ollut tyhmä. Ainoastaan hyväuskoinen, mikä tietyn pisteen jälkeen muuttunee tyhmyydeksi. Mulle oltiin uskoteltu, että etuoikeuksieni vuoksi en ole oikea ihminen kyseenalaistamaan mitään, siksi olikin aluksi niin helppoa vaimentaa sisällä kytevä epäilys. Huomasin logiikassa ristiriitoja, joita en halunnut käsitellä. Toivoin ettei muut nostaisi niitä esille mutta siltä ei voinut välttyä. Mulla oli epätoivoinen olo ja hermostuin helposti. "Ei mulla ole kaikkia vastauksia! Miksi mua ei ymmärretä?"

Musta tuntuu etten oikeasti ymmärtänyt edes itseäni. Tuli aika kun väsyin riitoihin. Rohkenin antaa tilaa syvimmille ajatuksilleni. Oli aika käsitellä ristiriitoja ja niitä asioita, jotka olivat sotineet omia arvokäsityksiäni ja näkemyksiäni vastaan, mutta joita olin silti hyvää hyvyyttäni yrittänyt ajaa. Otin etäisyyttä politiikkaan, mediaan ja aktivisteihin. Tein myös sen, mitä usein woketkin vaativat: Tutustuin asioihin. Tapasin uusia ihmisiä. Sellaisiakin, joiden kanssa olisin aiemmin itku kurkussa vääntänyt kättä. Pitkästä aikaa kohtasin ihmiset ihmisinä; edessäni oleva valkoinen heteromies olikin mahtava ja monimutkainen ihminen, jonka toimintaa ja ajattelua ei ohjannutkaan etuoikeus. Tällaisten ihmisten seurassa olen oikeasti tullut kuulluksi, käynyt mielenkiintoisia keskusteluita ja ennen kaikkea oppinut. Aloin varovaisesti jakamaan ajatuksiani; niitä uusia, omia ajatuksiani, jotka olisin itse aiemmin tuominnut vastenmielisinä. "Takinkäännölläni" on ollut havaittavia vaikutuksia, mutta ainakin tunnistan ympäriltäni ihmiset, joille olen enemmän kuin kertakäyttöinen aatetoveri. Omana itsenään ansaittu molemminpuolinen kunnioitus kestää paremmin kuin syyllistämällä, uhriutumalla ja vaatimalla vaadittu kunnioitus.

Intersektionaalinen feminismi on kultti, jonka sanoman ytimessä on monimuotoisuus ja tasa-arvo, mutta joka silti toimii vastoin oppejaan. Ihmiset luokitellaan surutta synnynnäisten ominaisuuksien perusteella ja jos satut olemaan ns. uhri, sinulle tulee tarjota mahdollisuuksia sen sijaan, että sinä ansaitsisit niitä. Historian ihmiset ovat riisuttu inhimillisyydestään ja monimutkaisuudestaan ja jäljellä on vain kertomukset etuoikeutetuista ihmisistä, jotka vain ottivat ilman antamista ja joiden elämää ohjasi halu sortaa. Wokella ei ole suhteellisuudentajua, eikä kontekstilla ole väliä. IF vaatii etuoikeutetuilta katumusharjoitusta muiden syntien tähden; synninpäästöstä ei kuitenkaan ole merkkiäkään.

Mutta kas, jos joku julistautuu wokeksi ja ajaa agendaa kiihkeästi, hänen aidosti epäkorrekti toimintansa lakaistaan herkästi maton alle; tällaista etuoikeutta ei ole kuin "uhreilla" ja heidän liittolaisillaan. Keskusteluista on tehty miinakenttä toisinajattelijoille.

Vääräkin sana, niin asia lähtee sivuraiteille. Loukkaantumista käytetään argumenttina.

Lopuksi: Luottakaa omaan arvostelukykyynne. Jos sinulla on epäilys jostain asiasta, älä vaimenna itseäsi. Älä mieti oletko liian etuoikeutettu tai väärä henkilö puhumaan; kuten minä, sinäkin saatat olla hyvä ihminen, joka on manipuloitu hiljentämään itse itsensä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 03.12.2021, 17:52:13
Moni miettii miksi suuri raha tukee wokea. Parantaako woke firmojen kannattavuutta? Wokepäitä ei ole niin paljoa että pelkästään niiden ostovoimalla yritysten kassavirta kasvaisi ja voitot nousisivat. Jos normot ja kansallismieliset lakkaavat ostamasta ja asiakkaina on pelkkiä wokepäitä, kannattavuus romahtaa. Luultavammin tulee tappiota ja konkurssi on mahdollinen.

Patmoksen Juha Ahvio arveli jossain radiolähetyksessä että suuryritykset tukevat wokea siksi kun se on halvempaa kuin huolehtia työntekijöiden oikeuksista. Tuota en osanut itse arvata mutta kuullostaa järkeenkäyvältä selitykseltä. Lisäksi hän arveli että wokella yritykset maksavat suojelurahaa räyhäporukoille kuten BLM:lle, Antifalle sekä muunlaiselle roskaväelle ja toivoo että ne eivät särje kyseisen yrityksen paikkoja.

Jos yritykset saavat wokettaa, sitten pitää vastaavasti sallia "kommunistien ei tarvitse vaivautua"-tyyppiset mainokset. Muuten ei ole tasapuolinen tilanne.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: VesaH on 03.12.2021, 18:11:21
Vanhasta lehdestä (Myötäote 1/2002) löytyi artikkeli rasismista Suomessa. Liitteenä koko artikkeli sekä erityisesti ihmetyttänyt kohta (miten tunnistaa rasistin).

Kopioin vielä tähän:
QuoteMiten tunnistat rasistin
Onko olemassa jotain tiettyjä erityisominaisuuksia tai piirteitä, joiden avulla voi tunnistaa rasistin? Miten voimme tunnistaa rasistin,koska sanaa rasisti ei ole kirjoitettu ihmisten kasvoille? Olenko minä rasisti? Tämä on hyvin vaikea kysymys, mutta kuuntelepa seuraavaa: "Minä en ole rasisti, koska minulla ei ole mitään mustia, aasialaisia, latinoja ja arabeja vastaan." Erittäin tyypillinen rasistin käyttämä ilmaisu.

Muuten artikkeli sisältää kaikille tuttua jaarittelua rasismin olemuksesta. Sekä myös erikoisen kertomuksen, jossa musta mies neuvoo valkoista laskemaan hampaidensa määrän kielellä (on muuten yllättävän vaikeaa, mutta miten se rasismiin liittyy?).
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:25:45
Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 20:25:46
Quote from: Tomatoface on 28.11.2021, 17:50:01
Vuosia noiden kanssa on yritetty keskustella järkevästi. Turhaan.

Omalta osaltani puheet on puhuttu.

"We have to have these conversations" = teidän on kuunneltava ja uskottava hevonpaskamme.

Rodullistettu. Turvallinen tila. Mikroaggressiot. Keskusteluita. Rakenteet. Etuoikeutetut. Syrjäytetyt. Valkoisuus. Ruskeus. Valko- tai heteronormatiivisuus. Kaikki -fobiat. Nämä ovat kaikki selviä varoitusmerkkejä siitä että keskustelu ei ole tarkoituksena eikä keskustelu voi johtaa mihinkään. Paradoksaalisesti keskustelu on kuitenkin tavoitteena, koska se on metodi - loputon keskustelu joka tuottaa aina vain uusia uhripositioita ja -kategorioita.

Tästä tulee kaukaisesti mieleeni gradun tekeminen. Piti omaksua "tieteellinen koodikieli" sanasto, joka kuulosti asiantuntevalta, ja erotti akateemiset tieteentekijäalokkaat rahvaasta, mutta vaikeutti asian ymmärtämistä sekä lähettäjän, että vastaanottajan päässä.

Liikkeenjohdon konsulttikieli ajaa samaa asiaa.

Sorry ot.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:46:45
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 28.11.2021, 21:41:06
... Ne jotka sanovat vastustavansa "rakenteita", "rakenteellista rasismia" tai "rakenteellista syrintää", ovat niitä jotka ovat itse luoneet ne rakenteet ja pitävät niitä nytkin hallussaan.

Jeps.

Ja rakenteellinen rasismi on se mitä intersektuaalis-feministinen hallituksemme kiilusilmäisesti harrastaa: haittamamujen suosimista ja kantasuomalaisten sorsimista kaikilla mahdollisilla tasoilla, alkaen lainsäädännöstä ja sen toteuttamisesta.

Hallitusviisikko edustaa rakenteellista rasismia puhtaimmillaan. Se, että rasistinen orjuuttaminen kohdistuu omaan kansaan, ei ole mitenkään ihmeellistä, koska ainahan kommunistinen nomenklatuura on sorsinut ja harventanut omaa väestöään. Aikamme uutuus on se, että tänne roudataan herrakansaa Afrikasta ja Lähi-Idästä.

Wokehallituksen ohjelma: Lebensraumia neekerille Suomesta, perkele!

Tähän on tultu.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 04.12.2021, 00:48:12
^ ot^2... Oman opinnäytetyön ohjaaja oli ehkä analyyttisin, loogisin ja suorapuheisin henkilö, jonka olen koskaan tavannut. Joskus ne kommentit tuntui ihan puhtaalta vittuilulta... Mutta eipä ole yksikään toinen henkilö kehittänyt omaa ajattelutapaa yhtä paljon. Tai vaikuttanut "menestykseen työmarkkinoilla" samalla tavoin. Ei ollut juuri palkitsevampaa fiilistä kuin saada tuolta kaverilta tunnustusta. Tiesi 100 % varmuudella, että nyt ei ole kyseessä mikään paskapuhe. Liittyy tähän ketjuun kuitenkin siten, että mitä siitä seuraa, kun ei vaadita mitään, vaan kaikki annetaan ilmaiseksi? Ja perään vielä kerrotaan, että sinä ansaitset tämän, koska olet "sorrettu". Tekeekö se lopulta näille "sorretuille ihmisryhmille", lukuun ottamatta pientä kusipäistä rikollis- / huijariporukkaa, mitään hyvää? Kaikki järkevät ihmiset tietää vastauksen.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:52:04
Quote from: Äpyli on 28.11.2021, 23:17:10
Ja woke-oppi sanelee, ettet ole tehnyt tarpeeksi.

Et ole ikinä tehnyt tarpeeksi, etkä voi ikinä tulla tekemään tarpeeksi, mutta silti sinun pitää jatkuvasti kilvoitelleman kohti wokea, jota et voi koskaan saavuttaa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dr Manhattan on 04.12.2021, 12:57:42
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:52:04
Quote from: Äpyli on 28.11.2021, 23:17:10
Ja woke-oppi sanelee, ettet ole tehnyt tarpeeksi.

Et ole ikinä tehnyt tarpeeksi, etkä voi ikinä tulla tekemään tarpeeksi, mutta silti sinun pitää jatkuvasti kilvoitelleman kohti wokea, jota et voi koskaan saavuttaa.
Niinpä, kun toistaiseksi ei ole mahdollista muuttua valkoisesta ei-valkoiseksi. White man is the nigger of the world, yes he is, runoili eräs rillipää vaimonhakkaaja.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 04.12.2021, 23:02:29
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:52:04
Et ole ikinä tehnyt tarpeeksi, etkä voi ikinä tulla tekemään tarpeeksi, mutta silti sinun pitää jatkuvasti kilvoitelleman kohti wokea, jota et voi koskaan saavuttaa.

Tämä perustuu ainakin siihen, että muiden syyttämiseen perustuvalle syvemmälle mekanismille, eli uhriutumiselle, ei ole käytännössä mitään rajaa tai päätepistettä. Luultavasti jokainen ihminen on elämänsä jossakin vaiheessa uhrin asemassa, vaikka lyhyenkin aikaa. Ihmisillä on yleensä ottaen - sinänsä kovin inhimillisistä syistä johtuen - melkoinen vinouma eläytyä uhrin asemaan ja uskoa häntä. Myös uhrin auttaminen nähdään arvostettavana asiana. Sen sijaan uhrin kyseenalaistaminen tai hädän torjuminen nähdään yleensä välinpitämättömyytenä, kylmyytenä tai muuten vain tylynä käytöksenä. Tämä luo woken kannalta eräänlaisen kulttuurisen ja ryhmäpsykologisen suojakilven, sillä ihmiset eivät mielellään ota riskiä sellaisesta toiminnasta, jonka toiset saattaisivat nähdä loukkaavana.

Mutta jokainen ei kehitä itselleen uhrimentaliteettia tai -identiteettiä. Ei ainakaan sellaista, joka alusta alkaen aggressiivisesti syyllistää muita. En tiedä, onko tehty esimerkiksi persoonallisuustutkimuksia wokettajista, mutta uskoisin niistä löytyvän tiettyjä yhteisiä piirteitä. Koska ihmisen on sisäisesti vaikea yksin ylläpitää jatkuvaa uhriksi asemoitumista (apu-va, tällöinhän ihminen joutuisi yksin tarkastelemaan toimintansa realiteetteja), tällainen ihminen pyrkii jatkuvasti sellaisiin vuorovaikutussuhteisiin, jotka tarjoavat tukea uhriutumiselle - yhä uudelleen ja uudelleen. Ja mikäpä ei tätä tarjoaisi kuten woke-kultti, jossa kaikki vääryyttä kokeneet otetaan riemuiten vastaan. Emotionaalisesti wokettaja voi itselleen voittaa jotakin lyhyellä aikavälillä, mutta pitkällä aikavälillä häviää varmasti. Oma vastuu hyvinvoinnista ja muistakin henkilökohtaisista asioista hämärtyy, ja omien ongelmanratkaisutaitojen kehittäminen tyssää. Krooninen uhriutuja alkaa nähdä muut ihmiset omien emotionaalisten tarpeiden täyttäjinä, joita voi manipuloida omien tavoitteiden saavuttamiseksi.

Tuossa aiemmin jäsen zupin viestissä tarinansa kertonut 26-vuotias nuori nainen kuvasi itse asiassa hyvin sitä prosessia, joka vääjäämättä johtaa mielenterveyttään suojelevan ihmisen eroamaan itselleen vahingollisesta ryhmästä. Vaatii rohkeutta löytää oma todellinen sisäinen ääni ja puolustaa sitä, varsinkin jos on metelöivän inkvisition ympäröimänä. Olisi muuten varmasti melkoista kuunneltavaa kärpäsenä katossa tuollainen woke-ryhmä.


Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 07.12.2021, 03:08:23
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:25:45
Tästä tulee kaukaisesti mieleeni gradun tekeminen. Piti omaksua "tieteellinen koodikieli" sanasto, joka kuulosti asiantuntevalta, ja erotti akateemiset tieteentekijäalokkaat rahvaasta, mutta vaikeutti asian ymmärtämistä sekä lähettäjän, että vastaanottajan päässä.

Liikkeenjohdon konsulttikieli ajaa samaa asiaa.

Heh, sanopa muuta. Täällä ei saa puhua koronasta, mutta on silti hyvä esimerkki juuri tuosta THL:n kapulakielisissä lausunnoissa, joissa puhutaan jos mistäkin läpitartuntaprosenteista. Noin akateemisena mutta pitkän työkokemuksen jälkeen ihmettelee miksi ei voi sanoa selkokielisemmin.

Liikkeenjohdon konsultointi on lähellä sydäntä. Siitä täytyy kertoa yksi anekdootti, missä Nokian ihan seniori dirikka piti puhettaan, ja sanoi: "We have to enable our global competences". Tuolla olisi saanut paljon pisteitä BS bingossa.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: artti on 08.12.2021, 14:47:47
Valta on valkoisilla miehillä, joiden pyrkimys on säilyttää valta valkoisilla miehillä. Valkoinen valta tukee rakenteellisen rasismin vastustamista niin mustanpuhuvan tulehtuneella tavalla, että siitä näkyy selvästi todellinen tavoite, joka on pikemminkin mustamaalata rakenteellisen rasismin vastustaminen

Kaupallisilla tiedotusvälineillä on omistaja, joka on käytännössä kuninkaantekijä. Uutismedialla on myös omat motiivinsa, joista merkittävin on kuumia uutisia lietsova ansaintalogiikka. Sotilaallis-teollisella ja uutismedialla on yhtenevä intressi siinä, että uutismedia ja sotilaallis-teollinen lietsoo jännitteitä, jonka avulla uutismedia ja sotilaallis-teollinen rakentelevat parempia bisneksiä. Uutismedian ja sotilaallis-teollisen bisnes on pelkoa lietsova henkinen terrori, joka tuo uutismedioille valtaa ja sotilaallis-teolliselle bisneksiä. Sivilisaatio ja kaupankäynti eivät pidä jännitteistä ja siksi sivilisaatio ja kaupankäynti kokevat jännitteiden lietsomisen bisneksilleen haitallisena, tässä on vastakkain kaksi bisnestä, jännitteistä hyötyvä bisnes, ja jännitteistä kärsivä bisnes

Nuorten suosimilla internetsivuilla on usein algoritmi, joka ohjailee käyttäjien toimia. Esimerkiksi, jos käyttäjä ei ole kirjautunut niin algoritmi nostaa happamia naamoja sisältäviä hakutuloksia. Seuraavaksi algoritmi alkaa reagoimaan käyttäjän hakemiin asioihin. Esimerkiksi amerikkalainen sivu tarjoilee happamia naamoja, jos käyttäjä hakee muita kuin amerikkalaisia hakutuloksia. Esimerkiksi japanilainen cover suomalaisesta kansanmusiikista nostaa happaman naaman hakutuloksiin

Perimmältään totalitaristiset ideologiat pyrkivät hyödyntämään vähemmistöjä valtapyyteissään, joka miltei aina saa rasistisia sävyjä siksi, että valtapyyteissään vähemmistöjä hyödyntävä ideologia kuvaa vähemmistöt maksimaalisena rasitteena, joka on ikävää mustamaalausta. Se, että valtapyyteissään vähemmistöjä hyödyntävät tahot kuvaavat vähemmistöt maksimaalisena rumana rasitteena ei ole yllättävää siksi, että valtapyyteissään vähemmistöjä hyödyntävät ovat totalitaristisia fanaatikkoja, joille massat ovat pelkkää tykinruokaa ilman ihmisarvoa

Realiteetti, joka repii tekaistut ideologiat on maailmantalouden turbulenssi, joka johtuu ylikansoituksesta ja maaöljyn ja maakaasun ja kivihiilen ehtymisestä. Se on niin, että jossain vaiheessa realiteetit repivät tekaistut ideologiat
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: L. Brander on 10.12.2021, 08:58:38
Yksikään asiasta vinkunut ei twiittaa tai kommentoi oikeaa tietoa. Koko skene perustuu asioiden kauhisteluun ja oman Hyvyyden korostamiseen. Asian osoittautuessa perättömäksi siirtyvät nämä ihmiset uuteen kaustiin, kusetukseen ja kauhisteluun. Kaikki on mukana saadakseen jotain. Poliitikot ja näyttelijät haluavat näkyvyyttä ja suosiota. Rivikansalaisten tilanne on vielä perverssimpi. He haluavat hetkensä twitterissä, saada peukutuksia, olla mukana ja tietysti korostaa omaa Hyvyyttään suhteessa muihin. Tämä woke/suvakismi, miksi tätä haluaa sanoa, ei sisällä mitään hyvää. Kyseessä on itsekkyys. 

Quote from:  SU 10.12.2021Hirttoköysi olikin lavastus – Jussie Smollett järjesti itseensä kohdistuneen "viharikoksen"

Chicagolainen valamiehistö on todennut, että musta näyttelijä valehteli joutuneensa rasistisen ja homofobisen viharikoksen uhriksi. Hänen kaulaansa väitetysti laitettu hirttoköysi osoittautui osaksi lavastusta, jonka järjestämisestä näyttelijä oli maksanut nigerialaisveljeksille. Mutta monet tahot ehtivät jo käyttää tätä lavastettua viharikosta poliittisena keppihevosenaan.

Valamiehistö totesi torstaina, että näyttelijä Jussie Smollett valehteli poliisille väittäessään joutuneensa rasistisen ja homofobisen viharikoksen uhriksi. Smollettin todettiin syyllistyneen viiden perättömän ilmiannon tekemiseen poliisille liittyen viharikoslavastuksen eri vaiheisiin.
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Poliitikot riensivät tuomitsemaan "lynkkauksen"

Lukuisat julkkikset olivat kuitenkin jo rientäneet Smollettin tueksi heti "viharikoksesta" kuultuaan. Näyttelijä Ellen Page purskahti televisiossa itkuun Smollettin kokeman homofobian takia.

Joe Biden ja muut tunnetut poliitikot tuomitsivat jyrkästi Smollettiin kohdistuneen rasistisen ja homofobisen hyökkäyksen. Ja koska Smollett oli väittänyt hyökkääjillä olleen punaiset MAGA-lippikset, kaikki syyttivät Donald Trumpia ja hänen kannattajiaan tästä karmeasta viharikoksesta.

Yhdysvaltain edustajainhuoneen vastavalittu puhemies Nancy Pelosi (dem) kuvasi tapahtunutta "hyökkäykseksi inhimillisyyttä vastaan". Hän on myöhemmin poistanut twiittinsä.

Nykyinen varapresidentti Kamala Harris sanoi, että kyseessä oli "moderni lynkkausyritys". Hänen mukaansa "Jussie Smollett on yksi ystävällisimmistä ja kilteimmistä ihmisistä", jonka hän tuntee. Kamala Harris oli juuri aiemmin ajanut senaatissa lakialoitetta, jossa vaadittiin "lynkkausten" eli rotuun perustuvien pahoinpitelyjen julistamista liittovaltion lain alaisiksi viharikoksiksi.
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https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/hirttokoysi-olikin-lavastus-jussie-smollett-jarjesti-itseensa-kohdistuneen-viharikoksen/
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 10.12.2021, 14:59:09
^ Pientä koostetta asiasta:

[tweet]1469126658598875142[/tweet]

Laitetaan tämäkin. Tuollakin oltiin vain "sosiaalista oikeutta" etsimässä...

[tweet]1469000377353842697[/tweet]

Edit. Jos kiinnostaa lueskella...

https://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ (https://www.fakehatecrimes.org/)
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Histon on 12.12.2021, 15:11:25
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12182781
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Jani Kaaron kolumni: Miten pyhät arvot estävät meitä keskustelemasta?

Woke-kulttuuri on helikopterivanhemmuutta hauraiksi väitetyille vähemmistöille, pohtii Kaaro.

Lokakuussa suomalaisia hämmensi Afrikan tähti- kohu. Se sai alkunsa, kun maantieteen opiskelijat pukeutuivat fuksiaisleikissään Afrikan tähden hahmoihin, ja tilanteesta kuullut saksalainen vaihto-opiskelija piti tätä osoituksena rasismista. Somessa kohu jakoi kansaa kahtia: toiset olivat tikahtua nauruun ja toiset ajattelivat, että kohu paljasti suomalaisten tiedostamattomia rasistisia asenteita.

Afrikan tähti -kohu oli hyvä esimerkki niin sanotusta woke-kulttuurista. Jotta se asettuisi mittasuhteisiinsa, on hyvä luoda silmäys pariin muuhun kohuun woke-kulttuurin emämaassa, Yhdysvalloissa.
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Entäpä Purduen yliopistossa vuonna 2008 sattunut tapaus, jossa talonmies oli lukenut kampuksella kirjaa(siirryt toiseen palveluun) nimeltä Notre Dame vs. the Klan; How the Fighting Irish Defeated the Klan. Historiantutkimuksen alaan kuuluva kirja kuvasi katolisten opiskelijoiden järjestäytymistä Ku Klux Klania vastaan vuonna 1924. Eräs opiskelija kuitenkin loukkaantui kansikuvasta, jossa oli hupullisia Ku Klux Klanin edustajia, ja kanteli asiasta yliopiston johdolle. Asia käsiteltiin ja talonmiehen todettiin syyllistyneen rasistiseen rikkomukseen lukemalla kirjaa kampuksella, joskin yliopisto myös pahoitteli tapahtunutta talonmiehelle.
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Suomessakin on viime aikoina puhuttu woke-kulttuurista eri yhteyksissä. Miten tätä woke-kulttuuria pitäisi ymmärtää? Mielestäni paras opas tähän aiheeseen on yhdysvaltalainen sosiaalipsykologi Jonathan Haidt, jonka ajatuksia tässä esittelen.

Haidtn mukaan woke-kulttuurin ytimessä on uhriutuminen uhrin puolesta ja kolmannen osapuolen vahvistuksen hakeminen. Kun kampuksella loukkaannutaan, loukkaantuminen ei useinkaan koske itseä, vaan loukkaantuminen tapahtuu useimmiten jonkin vähemmistön puolesta. Koska loukkaantuminen on tapa puolustaa vähemmistöjä ja tärkeä osa sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden eetosta, loukkaantumista ei voi sivuuttaa, vaan loukkaantumisesta tulee moraalinen velvollisuus. Koska vähemmistö, jonka puolesta loukkaannutaan, nähdään lähtökohtaisesti hauraana ja uhrina, pienikään loukkaus ei voi olla pikkujuttu, ja lopulta siitä tehdään iso juttu hakemalla sille tunnustus yliopiston johdolta tai mediasta.

Haidtin mukaan woke-kulttuuri alkoi muodostua 1990-luvun lopulla, kun amerikkalaisten yliopistojen professuureissa tapahtui muutos. Konservatiiviset professorit tippuivat pois ja heidän tilalleen palkattiin liberaaleja professoreja. Liberalismissa sinänsä ei ole mitään vikaa, mutta epäsuhta liberaalien ja konservatiivien välillä oli niin suuri, että yliopistoihin muodostui vasemmistolais-liberalistinen ylivalta eli hegemonia.
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Kun opiskelijakulttuuri kehittyy riittävän pitkään hegemoniassa, jossa oppilaiden näkemyksiä ei haasteta, suhde haastaviin väittelyihin muuttuu. Vastaväitteet eivät enää olekaan kutsu debattiin, vaan henkilökohtaisia loukkauksia. Kulttuurissa, joka korostaa uhrien haurautta, ei tällaista voida sietää, vaan koetaan, että opiskelijoilla on oikeus suojautua tällaisilta hyökkäyksiltä.
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Kun nyt mainitsin sanan pyhä, se tarjoaa hyvän selityksen nykyiselle keskustelukulttuurille. Haidt on verrannut amerikkalaisia konservatiiveja ja liberaaleja ikiaikaisiin heimoihin, jotka ovat ryhmittyneet omien pyhien arvojensa ympärille. Konservatiiveille nämä arvot ovat tähtilippu, raamattu ja abortin vastustaminen. Liberaaleille mustien, seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen sekä maahanmuuttajien puolustaminen. Koska kyseessä ovat pyhät arvot, se selittää, miksi keskustelu näistä aiheista on niin latautunutta ja loukkaantumisherkkää eikä siinä ole sijaa vitsailulle. Pyhät arvot eivät ole neuvoteltavissa.
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Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.12.2021, 13:25:07
Kimi ei polvistellut itsensä tappaneelle narkkarille, ja pitää nykyistä CSJ-meinikiä hulluna.

Quote from: https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/32828090/unfiltered-unapologetic-kimi-raikkonen-f1Unfiltered and unapologetic: The retiring Kimi Raikkonen on his time in F1
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Perhaps Raikkonen is getting out of F1 at the right time. In an era when sports stars get "cancelled" for saying or doing the wrong thing, he's happy he isn't starting his career now.

"It's f---ing crazy -- in the world generally, I mean," he adds. "Because whatever you say, people will say, 'How can you say this?' and they can turn anything to look bad.

"It's a f---ing weird thing, it's f---ing crazy. People get crazy. I mean, I don't care. If I say something and someone gets upset, I honestly don't give a f---.

"If you insult somebody, fine, I understand why you get upset, but in general if you can't say something [because it upsets someone] ... I just stay out of it because I don't want to waste my time on this kind of bulls---. There are other things in life to worry about.

"But generally, it is difficult because everybody looks at what the people are saying and try to make more negative out of it more than anything else."

MTV3 suomensi Räikkösen ESPN:n haastattelua.

Quote from: https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/kimi-raikkoselta-painokkaita-sanoja-nykymaailman-isosta-ilmiosta-se-on-ihan-v-n-hullua/8309054#gs.j8vqdxSuomalaiskuskilta kysyttiin siitä, miten hän näkee nykymaailmasta tutun tilanteen, jossa urheilutähtiäkin on laitettu syrjään kiistanalaisten ulostulojen ja lausuntojen myötä.

– Se on ihan v***n hullua – maailmassa ylipäätänsä, Räikkönen hämmästelee.

– Koska ihan sama mitä sanot, niin ihmiset ovat, että "kuinka voit todeta noin". Kaiken pystyy kääntämään negatiiviseksi.

– Se on v***n outo juttu. Hullua. Sekopäistä. Mutta en minä niin välitä. Jos sanon jotain ja joku hermostuu siitä, niin ei minua kiinnosta v***uakaan.
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– Jos loukkaa jota kuta, niin silloin ymmärrän, että joku suuttuu. Mutta se, että ei uskalla sanoa oikein yhtään mitään – en lähde sille linjalle. En halua hukata aikaani sellaiseen hölynpölyyn.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 19.12.2021, 13:20:16
Helsingin kaupunki poliittisen woke-korruption kourissa.  PD = Positiivinen Diskriminaatio

Quote from: https://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/mikkopaunio/helsingin-kallis-koulujen-positiivinen-syrjintapolitiikka-pohjaa-tutkimukseen-jossa-sen-tarkein-tulos-on-piilotettu/Helsingin kallis koulujen positiivinen syrjintäpolitiikka pohjaa tutkimukseen, jossa sen tärkein tulos on "piilotettu"

MikkoPaunio | 19.12.2021
En enää hämmästy mistään. Suomi – erityisesti Helsingin woke-kaupunki – on ajautunut itsepetoksen ja syvän rakenteellisen poliittisen korruption kouriin identiteettipolitiikan ja sen intersektionaalisuussääntöjen (=uhripisteluokitus) valtavirtaistumisen myötä.

Helsinki – apulaispormestari Nasima Razmyar etunenässä – on hehkuttanut julkisuudessa positiivisen syrjinnän ilosanomaa ja ehdottanut syksyn alussa mm. korkeampia palkkoja opettajille maahanmuuttajavaltaisissa kouluissa. Hiljan hän Helsingin Sanomien haastattelussa lausui mm.

"Koronarahaa kannattaisi kohdentaa voimakkaasti alueellisesti".

Esityksessä kymmenen miljoonaa euroa ollaan käyttämässä "oppilaiden ja opiskelijoiden tarpeiden mukaisiin opetus- ja tukijärjestelyihin", kuten erityisopettajien ja koulunkäynti­avustajien palkkaamiseen. Loput menevät esimerkiksi oppilas- ja opiskeluhuoltoon, monikielisiin ohjaajiin sekä opettajien täydennyskoulutukseen, työnohjaukseen ja mentorointiin."

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Tutkimuksen sosiologisesti ja Helsingin kaupungin haasteiden kannalta keskeisintä tulosta ei ole taulukoitu, eikä sitä ole mainittu tutkimuksen tiivistelmässäkään. Se löytyy ainoastaan sivulta 28 leipätekstistä ja siitäkin osin vaillinaisena:

PD-raha vähensi suhteellisesti koulupudokkuutta maahanmuuttajapojilla vain 10 %:lla, mikä tarkoittaisi, että heidän koulupudokkuutensa olisi ollut 2015 edelleen huimat 33,3 %.
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PD-koulujen valtaväestöön kuuluvista pojista 15,4 % ja tytöistä 14 % ei hakeutunut vuonna 2008 toisen asteen koulutukseen. Vastaavat luvut samassa järjestyksessä maahanmuuttajista olivat 37 % ja 32 %.

Linkissä asiasta enemmän. Liitteenä varmuuskopio.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.12.2021, 11:24:44
Quote from: https://ilkkapohjalainen.fi/kolumnit/elinkautinen-v%C3%A4%C3%A4ryyksien-vankilassaElinkautinen vääryyksien vankilassa

15.12.2021 klo 20.00 | Turun yliopiston eduskuntatutkimuksen keskuksen johtaja Markku Jokisipilä

Yrittäessäni käsittää kulttuurimme nykyilmiöitä päädyin lukemaan amerikkalaisten sosiologien Bradley Campbellin ja Jason Manningin kirjan The Rise of the Victimhood Culture vuodelta 2018. Heidän pääteesinsä on, että on syntynyt uusi moraalinen kulttuuri, jossa uhrius on sosiaalista ja poliittista pääomaa. Uhrin asemasta on tullut monille yksilöille ja ryhmille suoranainen tavoittelun kohde sekä keskeinen osa omakuvaa.

Uhriposition tekee Campbellin ja Manningin mukaan houkuttelevaksi se, että uhriuden avulla on mahdollista saavuttaa moraalinen ylemmyys niin suhteessa vääryyden tekijöihin kuin niihin kaikkiin muihinkin, jotka eivät ole vastaavalla tavalla kärsineet. Muilla on moraalinen velvollisuus kuunnella uhria ja pyrkiä hyvittämään hänen kokemansa vääryydet.

Uhriudesta on tullut sädekehä, jonka saavuttamisesta jopa kilpaillaan. Yleisöön vedotaan oman uhriaseman vahvistamiseksi ja pönkittämiseksi. Aiemmin tällainen olisi tuomittu säälin kerjäämisenä. Esimerkiksi suomalaisessa kulttuurissa ei perinteisesti ole kärsityistä vääryyksistä julkisesti huudeltu, vaan on purtu hammasta ja jalostettu kovat koettelemukset näyttämisenhaluksi, joskus kostonhimoksikin.

Loput linkistä.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 20.12.2021, 12:51:54
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.12.2021, 11:24:44
Quote from: https://ilkkapohjalainen.fi/kolumnit/elinkautinen-v%C3%A4%C3%A4ryyksien-vankilassaElinkautinen vääryyksien vankilassa

15.12.2021 klo 20.00 | Turun yliopiston eduskuntatutkimuksen keskuksen johtaja Markku Jokisipilä

Jokisipilä ei taida olla kovin innokas intersektionaalisuuden soveltaja.

https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersektionaalisuus

QuoteIntersektionaalisuus on tapa kuvailla ja analysoida miten yksilön asemaan ja ryhmäidentiteettiin vaikuttavat sukupuolen lisäksi monet muut erot, kuten yhteiskuntaluokka, etninen alkuperä, seksuaalinen suuntautuneisuus ja ikä. Intersektionaalisuus tarkoittaa risteäviä tai toisensa leikkaavia eroja yksilöiden identiteettien välillä. Intersektionaalisessa feminismissä tarkastellaan ihmisen asemaa näin muodostuvien identiteettiryhmien jäsenenä. Ryhmät eroavat toisistaan niille kuuluvien etuoikeuksien määrässä, jolloin tehtäväksi asettuu alistetun ryhmän aseman parantaminen. Intersektionaalinen feminismi kiinnittää yksilön sijaan huomionsa ryhmäidentiteettiin.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 20.12.2021, 13:46:04
@zupi Kävi mielessä kannattaisiko tämä nimetä woke-ketjuksi? Woke, CSJ, CRT, CLS...ovat aika lailla päällekkäisiä joten tällöin otsikkoon pitäisi laittaa kaikki nuo. Ehdotus vaan.

Tämä ketju menee sisällöltään osittain päällekkäin feminismi-ketjun kanssa, joten sinne menee intersektionaalisen feminismin jutut kun ketju on toiminut sen verran kauan.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.12.2021, 14:57:24
^ Itse aiemmin mietiskelin, että nimen voisi muuttaa esim. muotoon "Critical Social Justice / Woke-uskonto", tms. Periaatteessahan ketjun ensimmäisen viestin mukaisesti tuo Lindsayn kehittämä termi Critical Social Justice sisältää kaikki nämä nykyisin ajettavat hulluudet. Termi ei nyt vain oikein lähtenyt lentoon. CSJ:n ja woke-käsitteen yhteydestä Lindsay on kirjoittanut seuraavasti:

QuoteIn brief, "woke" means having awakened to having a particular type of "critical consciousness," as these are understood within Critical Social Justice. To first approximation, being woke means viewing society through various critical lenses, as defined by various critical theories bent in service of an ideology most people currently call "Social Justice." That is, being woke means having taken on the worldview of Critical Social Justice, which sees the world only in terms of unjust power dynamics and the need to dismantle problematic systems. That is, it means having adopted Theory and the worldview it conceptualizes.

Under "wokeness," this awakened consciousness is set particularly with regard to issues of identity, like race, sex, gender, sexuality, and others. The terminology derives from the idea of having been awakened (or, "woke up") to an awareness of the allegedly systemic nature of racism, sexism, and other oppressive power dynamics and the true nature of privilege, domination, and marginalization in society and understanding the role in dominant discourses in producing and maintaining these structural forces. Furthermore, being woke carries the imperative to become a social activist with regard to these issues and problems, again, on the terms set by Critical Social Justice. This—especially for white people—is to include a lifelong commitment to an ongoing process of self-reflection, self-criticism, and (progressive) social activism in the name of Theory and Social Justice (see also, antiracism).

https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-woke-wokeness/ (https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-woke-wokeness/)

Niin, mutta ketjun otsikkoa en osaa itse muuttaa. Tai ehkä en pysty sitä muuttamaan, ilmeisestikin yli 30 päivää vanhoja viestejä ei pysty enää muokkaamaan. Vai miten tuo nyt yleensä tehdäänkään. Mutta minulle nimenmuutos kyllä sopii, jos ylläpito katsoo sen aiheelliseksi.
Title: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 20.12.2021, 15:50:12
Jos pelkästään modet voivat muuttaa ketjun otsikkoa, pyynnöt sinne? @Alaric @kgb


Muokattu hieman, alkuperäinen silti säilytetty myös.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 20.12.2021, 20:19:39
En ole itse ehtinyt vielä katsomaan. Jälleen pisteet Puopololle.

[tweet]1472945985307529217[/tweet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLZgATGQhcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLZgATGQhcQ)

Edit. Olikin näköjään konekäännetty, valitettavasti. Onhan tuollaisessa keskustelussa sinänsä aikamoinen savotta, jos itse pitää alkaa "oikeasti" suomentamaan. Asiaa seuraamattomille tuossa voi vaan mennä moni asia "ohi". Hommailijoille lähinnä hyvää kertausta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.12.2021, 13:59:23
Quote from: https://www.extrauutiset.com/elon-musk-sanoo-woke-suurin-uhka-modernille-sivilisaatiolle/
Elon Musk sanoo:
"Woke suurin uhka modernille sivilisaatiolle"

22.12.2021 | Pekka Kemppainen

Miljardööriliikemies Elon Musk on sitä mieltä, että "woketus" uhkaa sivistyttä elämäntapaamme. Teslan pääjohtaja kertoi näkemyksensä satiirisella videokanavalla tänään.

"Wokeness  (vasemmisto-herännäisyys?) haluaa tehdä komediasta laittoman. Haluammeko huumorintajuttoman yhteiskunnan, joka on yksinkertaisesti täynnä tuomitsemista ja vihaa? Pohjimmiltaan herääminen on (ihmisten) jakamista, poissulkemista ja vihamielisyyttä. Se pohjimmiltaan antaa ilkeille ihmisille verukkeen olla julmia, ja panssaroituja väärällä hyveellä", sanoi  Elon Musk.

Loput linkistä, video tästä (ja konelitteraatti liitteestä):

FULL INTERVIEW: Elon Musk Sits Down With The Babylon Bee
332 462 katselukertaa | 22.12.2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvGnw1sHh9M
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 24.12.2021, 01:59:52
Kirjoitin vuosia sitten rasismista tälle palstalle. Silloin osui silmiini ensimmäistä kertaa sana rodullistettu. En käsittänyt alkuunkaan, mikä merkitys tuollaiselle sanalle oli annettu. Nyt vuosia myöhemmin olen alkanut ymmärtää, että se on (vain) yksi awoken-ideologian (critical race theory / critical social justice / what ever) termi, jonka sisältö on nonsense, kuten vuosia sitten jo vaikutti. Tämä on kiinnostava ilmiö, ja siksi kirjoitan siitä joitain huomioita.

Käsitteiden uudelleenmäärittely on näköjään wokeilussa tärkeää. Vanhentuneet käsitteet korvataan uusilla tai vanhat vain määritellään ideologian mukaisesti. Näitä on paljon, kuten yllä on todettu, esim.

Quote from: Dr Manhattan on 28.11.2021, 20:25:46
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Rodullistettu. Turvallinen tila. Mikroaggressiot. Keskusteluita. Rakenteet. Etuoikeutetut. Syrjäytetyt. Valkoisuus. Ruskeus. Valko- tai heteronormatiivisuus. Kaikki -fobiat. - -

Kiinnostavin ja ehkä tärkein on uhrikäsite. Siitä on johdettu suomen sanoja, joilla on oma erityismerkityksensä kuten esim. uhriasema/-status, uhrikategoria, uhriutua. Kun tämän käsitesotkun takana oleva ideologia on alkanut selvitä, on käynyt tarpeelliseksi määritellä täsmällisesti, mitä milläkin sanalla tarkoitetaan, (tahallisten) väärinkäsityksien välttämiseksi.

Uhri-sanalla on tietyt perusmerkitykset:
1. uskonnollisessa rituaalissa toimitettava uhri -> uhrata uhri,
2. toista (henkilöä) vahingoittavan toiminnan kohde.
Ks. kielitoimiston sanakirja: https://www.kielitoimistonsanakirja.fi/#/uhri?searchMode=all

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uhri

1.
uhrattava t. uhrattu esine, eläin tms., uhrilahja.
Lahja-, sovitusuhri.

Kuv.
Antaa henkensä uhriksi isänmaalleen.

Usk.
Kristuksen sovituskuolemasta.
Ristinuhri Golgatan.
2.
uhraaminen, uhrimenot.
Toimittaa uhri.
3.
jksta joka joutuu kärsimään, vahingoittuu t. menettää henkensä jnk vuoksi t. on jnk vahingollisen toiminnan kohteena t. alttiina jllek (kielteiselle).
Pahoinpitelijän uhri.

Viimeisin eli jonkin pahuuden uhri -merkitys on tässä keskeinen, vaikka uskonnollinen aspekti tavallaan myös olemassa, koska se on uhrisanan perusmerkitys. Kielileikki verbeillä uhrata, uhrautua, uhriutua, paljastanee, mihin tämä johtaa.

Uhri vaatii aina syyllisen, henkilön tai ilmiön, joka aiheuttaa, että jostakin tulee uhri. Wokeilulle tyypillistä on, että osa henkilöistä tekevät itsestään uhrin eli uhriutuvat. Tämä on tietysti näkökulmakysymys. Itse he eivät tietenkään myönnä uhriutuvansa vaan välttävät olevansa vääryyden todellisia uhreja. Jos he ovat reaalitodellisuudessa uhreja, eivätkä tekeydy uhreiksi, on välttämättä oltava taho, joka on heitä vahingoittanut ja sen seurauksena he ovat uhreja. Jotta tämä sotku saisi lisäselvyyttä, lainaan alla muutamia mielestäni hyviä ketjun aiempia puheenvuoroja, joissa uhrikysymystä ja siihen liittyvää valtapeliä on pohdittu kriittisesti:


Quote from: Markku Jokisipilä (IlkkaPohjalainen 15.12.-21)

Yrittäessäni käsittää kulttuurimme nykyilmiöitä päädyin lukemaan amerikkalaisten sosiologien Bradley Campbellin ja Jason Manningin kirjan The Rise of the Victimhood Culture vuodelta 2018. Heidän pääteesinsä on, että on syntynyt uusi moraalinen kulttuuri, jossa uhrius on sosiaalista ja poliittista pääomaa. Uhrin asemasta on tullut monille yksilöille ja ryhmille suoranainen tavoittelun kohde sekä keskeinen osa omakuvaa.

Uhriposition tekee Campbellin ja Manningin mukaan houkuttelevaksi se, että uhriuden avulla on mahdollista saavuttaa moraalinen ylemmyys niin suhteessa vääryyden tekijöihin kuin niihin kaikkiin muihinkin, jotka eivät ole vastaavalla tavalla kärsineet. Muilla on moraalinen velvollisuus kuunnella uhria ja pyrkiä hyvittämään hänen kokemansa vääryydet.

Uhriudesta on tullut sädekehä, jonka saavuttamisesta jopa kilpaillaan. Yleisöön vedotaan oman uhriaseman vahvistamiseksi ja pönkittämiseksi. Aiemmin tällainen olisi tuomittu säälin kerjäämisenä. Esimerkiksi suomalaisessa kulttuurissa ei perinteisesti ole kärsityistä vääryyksistä julkisesti huudeltu, vaan on purtu hammasta ja jalostettu kovat koettelemukset näyttämisenhaluksi, joskus kostonhimoksikin.
Korostus Lalli IsoTalo


Quote from: Jani Kaaro, kolumni: YLE
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Suomessakin on viime aikoina puhuttu woke-kulttuurista eri yhteyksissä. Miten tätä woke-kulttuuria pitäisi ymmärtää? Mielestäni paras opas tähän aiheeseen on yhdysvaltalainen sosiaalipsykologi Jonathan Haidt, jonka ajatuksia tässä esittelen.

Haidtn mukaan woke-kulttuurin ytimessä on uhriutuminen uhrin puolesta ja kolmannen osapuolen vahvistuksen hakeminen. Kun kampuksella loukkaannutaan, loukkaantuminen ei useinkaan koske itseä, vaan loukkaantuminen tapahtuu useimmiten jonkin vähemmistön puolesta. Koska loukkaantuminen on tapa puolustaa vähemmistöjä ja tärkeä osa sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden eetosta, loukkaantumista ei voi sivuuttaa, vaan loukkaantumisesta tulee moraalinen velvollisuus. Koska vähemmistö, jonka puolesta loukkaannutaan, nähdään lähtökohtaisesti hauraana ja uhrina, pienikään loukkaus ei voi olla pikkujuttu, ja lopulta siitä tehdään iso juttu hakemalla sille tunnustus yliopiston johdolta tai mediasta.
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Kun nyt mainitsin sanan pyhä, se tarjoaa hyvän selityksen nykyiselle keskustelukulttuurille. Haidt on verrannut amerikkalaisia konservatiiveja ja liberaaleja ikiaikaisiin heimoihin, jotka ovat ryhmittyneet omien pyhien arvojensa ympärille. Konservatiiveille nämä arvot ovat tähtilippu, raamattu ja abortin vastustaminen. Liberaaleille mustien, seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen sekä maahanmuuttajien puolustaminen. Koska kyseessä ovat pyhät arvot, se selittää, miksi keskustelu näistä aiheista on niin latautunutta ja loukkaantumisherkkää eikä siinä ole sijaa vitsailulle. Pyhät arvot eivät ole neuvoteltavissa.
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Quote from: Äpyli on 04.12.2021, 23:02:29
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:52:04
Et ole ikinä tehnyt tarpeeksi, etkä voi ikinä tulla tekemään tarpeeksi, mutta silti sinun pitää jatkuvasti kilvoitelleman kohti wokea, jota et voi koskaan saavuttaa.

Tämä perustuu ainakin siihen, että muiden syyttämiseen perustuvalle syvemmälle mekanismille, eli uhriutumiselle, ei ole käytännössä mitään rajaa tai päätepistettä. Luultavasti jokainen ihminen on elämänsä jossakin vaiheessa uhrin asemassa, vaikka lyhyenkin aikaa. Ihmisillä on yleensä ottaen - sinänsä kovin inhimillisistä syistä johtuen - melkoinen vinouma eläytyä uhrin asemaan ja uskoa häntä. Myös uhrin auttaminen nähdään arvostettavana asiana. Sen sijaan uhrin kyseenalaistaminen tai hädän torjuminen nähdään yleensä välinpitämättömyytenä, kylmyytenä tai muuten vain tylynä käytöksenä. Tämä luo woken kannalta eräänlaisen kulttuurisen ja ryhmäpsykologisen suojakilven, sillä ihmiset eivät mielellään ota riskiä sellaisesta toiminnasta, jonka toiset saattaisivat nähdä loukkaavana.

Mutta jokainen ei kehitä itselleen uhrimentaliteettia tai -identiteettiä. Ei ainakaan sellaista, joka alusta alkaen aggressiivisesti syyllistää muita. En tiedä, onko tehty esimerkiksi persoonallisuustutkimuksia wokettajista, mutta uskoisin niistä löytyvän tiettyjä yhteisiä piirteitä. Koska ihmisen on sisäisesti vaikea yksin ylläpitää jatkuvaa uhriksi asemoitumista (apu-va, tällöinhän ihminen joutuisi yksin tarkastelemaan toimintansa realiteetteja), tällainen ihminen pyrkii jatkuvasti sellaisiin vuorovaikutussuhteisiin, jotka tarjoavat tukea uhriutumiselle - yhä uudelleen ja uudelleen. Ja mikäpä ei tätä tarjoaisi kuten woke-kultti, jossa kaikki vääryyttä kokeneet otetaan riemuiten vastaan. - -

Uhriasemasta on tullut pyhän lehmän kaltainen tabu, johon hakeudutaan, riippumatta, onko de facto kärsitty vääryyttä. Kaikki eivät sitä tee, vaikka olisivat kokeneet vääryyttä. On toki inhimillistä, että ihmisellä on tarve ilmaista kokemuksensa väärinkohtelusta. Yksi tulkitsee sen uhriutumiseksi ja saattaa jopa ivata uhri(utuja)a, toinen sen sijaan kokee aitoa myötätuntoa ja puolestaloukkaantuu, jos hän kokee, että uhria ivataan.

Tässä tulkintojen ja kokemusten sotkussa voisi olla kyse vain väärinymmärryksestä, joka voisi olla sovittavissa, ellei tähän kytkeytyisi ideologinen valtapeli, joka vääryyksien korjaamisen sijaan/varjolla saa vääryyttä aikaan. Kuviteltuja tai todellisia vääryyksiä pyritään "korjaamaan" kostamalla. Oletetuilta etuoikeutetuilta, kuten suomalainen VHM, vaaditaan korvauksena, positiivisena syrjintänä, vastaavia (etu)oikeuksia "uhreille". Syyllisiksi leimatuilla, erityisesti VHM, on jatkossa (vain) velvollisuuksia oikeuksien sijaan, kun taas "uhreilta" ei velvollisuuksia saa vaatia. Syyllisyyttä pidetään yllä ruokkimalla huonoa omaatuntoa, kun toinen osapuoli näyttää menettäneen omantunnon kokonaan uhriutuen kaikessa.

Seurauksena on kaoottinen tilanne, jossa syytetään ja uhriudutaan kykenemättä vähäiseenkään itsekritiikkiin. Väki on sokaistunut omaan oikeassaolemiseensa, mikä lopulta tekee keskusteluyhteyden, luottamuksesta puhumattakaan, mahdottomaksi. Kulttuurisota on täydessä käynnissä niin Yhdysvalloissa kuin Euroopassa, eikä pelkästään se, vaan konflikti on laajentunut väkivaltaiseksi kuten esim. BLM-mellakat osoittavat. Suomessa kunniakansalaiset perseilevät, mikä näkyy esim. rikostilastoissa, ja heidän hännystelijänsä pyrkivät kaikin tavoin selittämään syyllisen ja uhrin paikat toisin, kuin ne ovat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 24.12.2021, 14:19:19
Quote from: Äpyli on 04.12.2021, 23:02:29
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2021, 00:52:04
Et ole ikinä tehnyt tarpeeksi, etkä voi ikinä tulla tekemään tarpeeksi, mutta silti sinun pitää jatkuvasti kilvoitelleman kohti wokea, jota et voi koskaan saavuttaa.

Tämä perustuu ainakin siihen, että muiden syyttämiseen perustuvalle syvemmälle mekanismille, eli uhriutumiselle, ei ole käytännössä mitään rajaa tai päätepistettä.

Hyviä ajatuksia sinulta.

Kultit (uskonnot) tukeutuvat ideaan, että et koskaan voi olla "synnitön" eli ne rakentuvat tavoitteiden ympärille, jotka on mahdoton saavuttaa. Ne ovat siis loputon kamppailu kohti jotain jaloa päämäärää, joka on aina yhtä kaukana horisontissa.

Wokeismi, jolla on kaikki kultin tunnusmerkit, asettaa päämääräkseen täydellisen moraalisen puhtauden teemojensa ympärille: rotu, transseksuaalisuus, feminismi jne. Lankeamista ei sallita eikä anneta anteeksi koska se nähdään petturuutena, jonka puitteissa kultin jäsen on jopa pahempi kun ulkopuolinen henkilö, joka ainakin periaatteessa olisi käännytettävissä kultin uskomuksiin.

Leimallista kulteille on myös, että niissä tunnustetaan avoimesti oma syntisyys, mutta koska kultin jäsenet pyrkivät saavuttamaan (mahdottoman) päämääränsä, he ovat silti parempia ihmisiä kun kultin ulkopuolella olevat.

Syntisyyttä ei kuitenkaan tunnusteta väärien tekojen perusteella, koska se olisi lankeamista dogmasta ja johtaisi hylkäämiseen yhteisöstä. Synnit tunnustetaan vain abstraktien ja usein keksittyjen konstruktioiden ympärille kuten "valkoinen etuoikeus", "toksinen maskuliinisuus" jne. Eli ominaisuuksia, joiden puitteissa kaikki ovat jollain lailla syntisiä eikä kellään sen takia ole moraalista oikeutta heittää ensimmäistä kiveä. Näitä konstruktioita voisi kutsua kultin perisynneiksi, joita kukaan ei voi paeta.

Lankeaminen tapahtuu siten vasta kun kultin dogmaa kyseenalaistetaan, dogma johon kuuluu edellä mainitut perisynnit. Lankeaminen tapahtuu siis käytännössä konkreettisten tekojen kautta kuten esim. J K. Rowlingin transnaisten naiseuden kyseenalaistaminen.

Loputtoman syntisyyden dynamiikka ja siitä syntyvä lankeamisriski perustuu siihen, että yhteisö hajoaisi irrelevanttina jos päämäärän voisi saavuttaa. Loputon syntisyys on siis itseisarvo ja liima, joka pitää kultin kassassa sillä jos kultin jäsenet saavuttaisivat nirvanan, kultilla ei ole enää mitään merkitystä ohjaavana sosiaalisena (valta)rakenteena. Tästä syystä kultti pyrkii luomaan asetelman loputtomasta kamppailusta pahaa vastaan rakentamalla mahdottomia päämääriä.

QuoteMutta jokainen ei kehitä itselleen uhrimentaliteettia tai -identiteettiä. Ei ainakaan sellaista, joka alusta alkaen aggressiivisesti syyllistää muita. En tiedä, onko tehty esimerkiksi persoonallisuustutkimuksia wokettajista, mutta uskoisin niistä löytyvän tiettyjä yhteisiä piirteitä.

On uhriutujia ja uhrittajia. Ensimmäinen on ne, jotka sanovat itse olevansa uhreja kuten esim. erinäiset kokohubarat ja muut "rasifioidut". Toinen on se ulkopuolinen porukka, joka kertoo muiden olevan uhreja eli valkoiset vasemmistoliberaalit. Näistä on syntynyt eräänlainen epäpyhä liitto, jossa molemmat hyödyntävät toisiaan mutta eri lähtökohdista.

Uhriutujat pyrkivät hankkimaan itselleen konkreettisia, usein rahallisia etuja tai statusta, vetoamalla uhrittajien tunteisiin. Uhrittajat taas pyrkivät hankkimaan itselleen moraalista painoarvoa ja ylemmyyttä "puolustelemalla" uhreja. Kumpikin pyrkii nousemaan ylös massasta tyydyttämällä omia raadollisia tarpeitaan eräänlaisessa tekopyhyyden tangossa, jossa yhteisymmärryksessä teeskennellään kollektiivisen uhriongelman olemassaoloa. Sanon kollektiivisen, koska wokeismin uhrius nimenomaan perustuu johonkin pysyvään kollektiiviseen ominaisuuteen kuten ihonväriin eikä yksilölliseen tragediaan kuten kuolemaan perheessä.

Tämän perusteella voisi väittää, että wokeismi rakentuu sen varaan, että kaikki ovat tarpeeksi epämoraalisia, jotta he olisivat valmiita hyödyntämään toisiaan omien päämääriensä saavuttamiseksi.

QuoteEmotionaalisesti wokettaja voi itselleen voittaa jotakin lyhyellä aikavälillä, mutta pitkällä aikavälillä häviää varmasti.

Wokettajahan saa henkistä tyydytystä olemalla mukana kultissa, mutta hänellä on myös aina riski päätyä hylätyksi kultistaan jos hän lankeaa. Ja kuten varis- ja silakkaparvista olemme nähneet, lankeamisen riski on erinomaisen suuri ja jatkuvasti läsnä. Välitön sosiaalinen hinta lankeamisesta voi olla korkea, mutta pitkässä juoksussa lienee terveellisempää olla olematta jäsen de facto vihakultissa kun viettää aikansa muiden moraalisia heikkouksia arvostelemalla.

Juuri loputon kamppailu oletettua pahaa vastaa lienee se, joka ajaa wokettajat mielenterveysongelmiin. Jos merkittävä osa elämässä menee pelkästään siihen, että moralisoidaan muita ja yritetään "parantaa heidän tapojaan" haukkumalla ja canceloimalla heitä - tehtävä, jolla ei ole loppua - henkilökohtainen ilmapiiri muuttuu jossain vaiheessa niin pessimistiseksi ja negatiiviseksi, että ainoa tie ulos jättää kultti tai tuhoutua henkisesti.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 28.12.2021, 22:32:51
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SOMEKOHUJEN RYVETTÄMÄ J.K. ROWLING JOHTI THE GUARDIANIN KUNNIAKASTA ÄÄNESTYSTÄ – SITTEN ÄÄNESTYS SULJETTIIN
HOLLYWOOD | MAAILMALTA Niko Ikonen 28.12.2021 22:02

Sellainen äänestys sitten saarivaltiossa.

Isobritannialainen The Guardian -lehti järjesti verkossa kunniakkaan Vuoden merkkihenkilö -äänestyksen. Väärä ihminen nousi sen johtoon, joten äänestys keskeytettiin ennenaikaisesti.

Harry Potter -kirjailija J.K. Rowling on joutunut somekohujen keskelle twiittauksillaan. Milloin hänen sanomisiaan suomitaan transfobiasta, milloin muista asioista. Hänet on jo pyritty niin sanotusti canceloimaan, eikä häntä nähtykään HBO Maxin Harry Potter -spesiaalissa.

Ihmiset äänestivät Rowlingin The Guardianin äänestyksessä ykköspaikalle. The Guardian katkaisi äänestyksen kesken kaiken ja Rowling jäi johtopallille.

Tämän takia ihmiset ovat onnitelleet Rowlingia kunniakkaasta nimityksestään.

https://www.episodi.fi/uutiset/somekohujen-ryvettama-j-k-rowling-johti-the-guardianin-kunniakasta-aanestysta-sitten-aanestys-suljettiin/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 28.12.2021, 23:26:49
Quote from: duc on 24.12.2021, 01:59:52
Kiinnostavin ja ehkä tärkein on uhrikäsite. Siitä on johdettu suomen sanoja, joilla on oma erityismerkityksensä kuten esim. uhriasema/-status, uhrikategoria, uhriutua. Kun tämän käsitesotkun takana oleva ideologia on alkanut selvitä, on käynyt tarpeelliseksi määritellä täsmällisesti, mitä milläkin sanalla tarkoitetaan, (tahallisten) väärinkäsityksien välttämiseksi.

Uhri-sanalla on tietyt perusmerkitykset:
1. uskonnollisessa rituaalissa toimitettava uhri -> uhrata uhri,

Loistava nosto. Ja vielä jouluaattona. Kiitos duc.

Jouluna syntyi henkilö, josta tuli kertakaikkinen uhri, jonka jälkeen ei ole ketään tarvinnut hengellisessä mielessä nostaa uhriasemaan. Toki on sodan uhreja ja tapaturman uhreja, mutta uhristatuksen hakeminen on itsensä ylentämistä positioon, joka kristinuskossa kuuluu vain Kristukselle. Joka itsensä ylentää, se alennetaan.

Minulla on edelleen lukematta ostamani Daniel Nylundin kirja "Uhriutumisen kulttuuri". Taidan ottaa sen seuraavaksi työn alle.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 29.12.2021, 11:13:22
Quote from: duc on 28.12.2021, 22:32:51
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SOMEKOHUJEN RYVETTÄMÄ J.K. ROWLING JOHTI THE GUARDIANIN KUNNIAKASTA ÄÄNESTYSTÄ – SITTEN ÄÄNESTYS SULJETTIIN
HOLLYWOOD | MAAILMALTA Niko Ikonen 28.12.2021 22:02
https://www.episodi.fi/uutiset/somekohujen-ryvettama-j-k-rowling-johti-the-guardianin-kunniakasta-aanestysta-sitten-aanestys-suljettiin/

Guardianin innosti ex-tempore-äänestyksen järjestämiseen lehden tyytymättömyys Time-lehden valintaan (Elon Musk): https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/dec/15/tell-us-who-is-your-2021-person-of-the-year
QuoteTime magazine has announced that Elon Musk will be their "2021 person of the year", citing the billionaire Tesla boss's influence "for good or ill" as a "clown, genius, edgelord, visionary, industrialist, showman". The choice has been criticised for Musk's attitude to tax, opposition to unions and playing down the dangers of Covid.

With this in mind, we would like to hear about your own choices. Who would be your 2021 person the year, and why?

Guardian ilmaisi Muskin valinnan aiheuttaman närkästyksen myös toisessa artikkelissa: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/dec/14/elon-musk-time-person-of-the-year-worst-ever-choice-say-critics

Guardian ilmeisesti kuvitteli, että sen "valistuneiden" lukijoiden valinta tuottaa mielenkiintoisen kontrastin amerikkalaisen suhteessa hieman konservatiivisemman lehden näkemykselle.  Kun lukijat (tai ainakin äänestykseen osallistuneet) eivät olleetkaan riittävän valistuneita, projekti keskeytettiin.  Tuskinpa lehti edes kommentoi projektia tämän jälkeen.  Eikä taatusti järjestä jatkossa "vuoden henkilö"-äänestyksiä.

Asiaan hieman liittyen:  onko Helsingin Uutiset järjestänyt "vuoden helsinkiläinen"-äänestystä sen jälkeen, kun K-marketin Anna ohitti lehden listaamat ehdokkaat 2015? Hänhän nousi kansainvälisen yleisön tietoisuuteen kurmuuttamalla Facebook-videolla somalinäpistelijöitä.  En äkkiseltään löydä netistä tuoreempia mainintoja äänestyksistä ja voittajista.

https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000001065471.html

QuoteHelsingin Pasilassa sijaitsevan K-market Ratiksen myyjä nousi otsikoihin kesällä, kun kauppias Saku Kytölä latasi kaupan Facebook-sivulle valvontakameravideon, jossa naismyyjä taltutti pippurisumutteen avulla kaksi olutvarasta kaupan ovella.

Kauppias Kytölä kertoi Ilta-Sanomille, että näpistykset vähenivät kaupassa selvästi, kun video levisi myös maailmalle.

Videolla esiintyneelle 22-vuotiaalle Annalle suosio toi mukanaan yllättävän tunnustuksen.

Hän kahmi Helsingin Uutisten järjestämässä Vuoden helsinkiläinen 2015 -äänestyksessä peräti 58 prosenttia äänistä, ja nousi voittajaksi ohi ennakkoon asetettujen ehdokkaiden.

Tässä vielä itse video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugVXQ-LPvtI&t=27s
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 01.01.2022, 01:20:20
Thomasta ja Seerutia, voi poistaa, omasta mielestä aika monet heitot liittyy ketjun aiheeseen.

Seerut:

QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

There are people attracted to wokeness purely because it creates a defection from adult responsibility.
5:50 AM · Dec 8, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Just like youth is wasted on the young, the west is wasted on many westerners.
5:53 AM · Jun 7, 2021·Twitter for iPhone


Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Identity politics has created a situation where the feelings of perpetrators are prioritised over actual crimes against victims.

12:50 AM · Dec 13, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

No one that considers you their equal coddles or pities you.


6:57 PM · Dec 16, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

The cruelest people on social media have 'be kind' & 'empath ✨' in their bios.

5:22 AM · Dec 18, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

It's next to impossible to discuss ideas with people who make absolutely everything in the known universe about their feelings.

4:36 AM · Dec 23, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Seerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Oldest trick in the book: when they can't refute your argument, they'll try to attack your character.
8:33 PM · Dec 23, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

Ja mahtava Thomas:

QuoteA moral monopoly is the antithesis of a marketplace of ideas.

There are only two ways of telling the complete truth – anonymously and posthumously.

Those who cry out that the government should 'do something' never even ask for data on what has actually happened when the government did something, compared to what actually happened when the government did nothing


Life in general has never been even close to fair, so the pretense that the government can make it fair is a valuable and inexhaustible asset to politicians who want to expand government.

Would you bet your paycheck on a weather forecast for tomorrow? If not, then why should this country bet billions on global warming predictions that have even less foundation?

Stopping illegal immigration would mean that wages would have to rise to a level where Americans would want the jobs currently taken by illegal aliens.

"The word 'racism' is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything – and demanding evidence makes you a 'racist.'"

"The biggest and most deadly 'tax' rate on the poor comes from a loss of various welfare state benefits – food stamps, housing subsidies and the like – if their income goes up."

"If people in the media cannot decide whether they are in the business of reporting news or manufacturing propaganda, it is all the more important that the public understand that difference, and choose their news sources accordingly."


"In various countries and times, leaders of groups that lagged behind, economically and educationally, have taught their followers to blame all their problems on other people – and to hate those other people."


"If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism."

"Too much of what is called 'education' is little more than an expensive isolation from reality."

"Education is not merely neglected in many of our schools today, but is replaced to a great extent by ideological indoctrination."

"Our schools and colleges are turning out people who cannot feel fulfilled unless they are telling other people what to do."

"Liberals seem to assume that, if you don't believe in their particular political solutions, then you don't really care about the people that they claim to want to help."

"The more people who are dependent on government handouts, the more votes the left can depend on for an ever-expanding welfare state."

"All too often when liberals cite statistics, they forget the statisticians' warning that correlation is not causation."

"The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive."

In liberal logic, if life is unfair then the answer is to turn more tax money over to politicians, to spend in ways that will increase their chances of getting reelected."

"Although the big word on the left is 'compassion,' the big agenda on the left is dependency."

https://everydaypower.com/thomas-sowell-quotes/ (https://everydaypower.com/thomas-sowell-quotes/)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 09.01.2022, 17:30:14
Kaksoisvoitto...  :flowerhat:

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 12.01.2022, 15:36:58
Valtaojan kanssa keskustellut,,siis Sannikan ohjelmassa ollut toimittelija on saanut traumaperäisen stressin tms.,,Voisin kertoa muutaman totuuden todellisuudesta stressin suhteen.

https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000008534585.html

QuoteMarraskuussa esitetystä jaksosta nousi kohu, kun Ebrahimi otti sanallisesti yhteen professori Esko Valtaojan kanssa. Jakson teemana olivat rasismi, woke- ja cancel-kulttuurit ja yhteiskunnan valtarakenteet, joista keskustelijoilla oli eriäviä mielipiteitä ja näkemyksiä.

Voihan ..ttu, jos minä jäisin kotiin makkoilemaan,,kilauttasin kakkos-henkilölle.. työpaikalle,,että nyt stressaa ei voi, eikä pysty on paineita hupussa, no toimittelijalla on helppoa.

QuoteKaiken lisäksi hän tuli pian kohun jälkeen kipeäksi, jonka hän arvelee johtuneen vahvasta stressireaktiosta kehossaan. Taudin takia hän joutui perumaan ja siirtämään töitään.

– Jäin kotiin jumiin, enkä päässyt pakenemaan kaaosta töihin. Mikä on yleensä mun lääke moniin kriiseihin.

– Samalla mulle iski päälle todella vahva traumaperäinen reaktio, jossa en osannut ottaa apua vastaan, vaan menin vahvaan selviytymis-modeen. Yksin olen aina ennenkin kaikesta selvinnyt. Tein sen myös nytkin, ainakin osittain, Ebrahimi kirjoittaa.

Mikä on lääketieteellinen nimi taudille jossa jäädään kotiin ja perutaan töitä?..Muikki ei tiennyt,,sanoi, että laiskuus/uhriutuminen voisi olla lt. nimike?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: RP on 12.01.2022, 16:28:18
^Voi raasua. Toivottavasti ei tarvitse koskaan elämässään kohdata sellaista, mitä enemmistö ihmisistä pitäisi järkyttävänä, jos tämäkin otti jo näin koville.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 12.01.2022, 16:45:50
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Traumanjälkeinen stressihäiriö, joka tunnetaan myös nimellä posttraumaattinen stressihäiriö (engl. post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD), on ahdistuneisuushäiriöihin luokiteltu psykiatrinen häiriö, joka saattaa kehittyä traumaattisen tapahtuman (äkillinen, itsestä riippumaton ja tunteita, mm. avuttomuus ja pelko, herättävä) kokemisen tai todistamisen seurauksena. Traumaattisella tapahtumalla tarkoitetaan tässä tilannetta, jossa henkilön tai hänen läheistensä henki, terveys ja/tai fyysinen koskemattomuus on uhattuna, esimerkiksi sotatila, luonnonkatastrofi, liikenneonnettomuus tai perheväkivalta.[1] Trauman jälkeen on aivan normaalia kokea erilaisia stressioireita, jotka useimmiten lievittyvät itsestään ajan kuluessa. Osalla stressireaktio kuitenkin pysyy ja saattaa kehittyä traumanjälkeiseksi stressihäiriöksi.[2] Termiä käytetään psykologiassa ja psykiatriassa. Yksityiskohtaiset kriteerit PTSD:lle on esitetty kansainvälisessä tautiluokituksessa ICD-10:ssä[3].

PTSD-oireet jaetaan neljään pääluokkaan. Ensimmäinen luokka sisältää oireet, jotka liittyvät trauman uudelleen kokemiseen; näitä ovat muun muassa trauman itsepintainen tunkeutuminen tietoisuuteen esimerkiksi takaumina tai painajaisina. Seuraavaan luokkaan kuuluu välttämiskäyttäytyminen: henkilö välttää traumasta muistuttavia esineitä, paikkoja ja ihmisiä sekä saattaa eristäytyä. Kolmas luokka sisältää kielteiset kognitiiviset ja mielialamuutokset, jotka imenevät muistivaikeuksina tai vääristyminä traumatapahtumaan liittyen, turtumuksena, vieraantumisen tunteina ja kiinnostuksen vähenemisenä. Neljäs luokka sisältää kohonneen vireystilan aiheuttamat oireet, kuten jatkuvan varuillaanolon, säikähtelyn ja ärtymyksen.[4]

Traumanjälkeisten oireiden kirjoa monimutkaistaa se, että häiriöön liittyy usein myös muita psykiatrisia ongelmia, kuten masennusta, päihteiden väärinkäyttöä, muutoksia muistissa ja kognitiivisissa toiminnoissa sekä muita mielenterveydellisiä ja fyysisiä ongelmia. Kaikki tämä yhdessä johtaa henkilön sosiaalisen toimintakyvyn vaarantumiseen tai ongelmiin työelämässä tai muulla tärkeällä toiminnan alueella. PTSD-oireisiin kuuluvat esimerkiksi fysiologiset muutokset nopeana sykkeenä, korkeana verenpaineena, unettomuutena tai muina unihäiriöinä ja yleensä sympaattisen hermoston lisääntynyt aktiivisuus lepotilassa ja stressivasteena. Myös kiinnostus tärkeiden toimintojen (esim. ravinto, henkilökohtainen hygienia) suorittamiseen voi vähentyä. Psyykkisiä oireita ovat yhtäältä väkisin mieleen tulevat voimakkaat tunteet ja muistikuvat ja toisaalta tapahtumasta muistuttavien asioiden välttely. Tyypillistä on myös keskittymisvaikeudet, dissosiatiiviset oireet (depersonalisaatio ja derealisaatio) sekä syyllisyys tai syyttely.

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Tekijöitä, jotka altistavat PTSD:n kehittymiselle
Traumaan liittyvät tekijät
Suora altistuminen traumatapahtumalle uhrina tai todistajana
Vakava vammautuminen
Pitkäaikainen tai toistuva traumatisaatio
Pelko, että uhri tai läheinen oli kuolemanvaarassa
Vakava reaktio, kuten itku, vapina, oksentaminen tai tunne, että on irrallaan itsestään ja ympäristöstä
Avuttomuuden tunne; tunne, ettei pystynyt auttamaan itseään tai läheistä
Tapahtuneen salailu ja häpeä
Eristäytyminen tapahtuneen jälkeen
Yleinen elämäntilannelähde?
Aikaisempi traumahistoria, kuten kaltoinkohtelu lapsena
Selviytyjän tai perheenjäsenten aikaisemmat mielenterveysongelmat
Vähäinen läheisten tuki
Läheisen menetys hiljattain erityisesti, jos tapahtuma oli odottamaton
Muut raskaat elämänmuutokset
Päihdeongelma
Matala koulutustaso
Nuori ikä
Erilaisia traumoja sekä niihin liittyvä PTSD:n kehittymisen riski (%)lähde?
Vakava pahoinpitely tai päällekarkaus (32 %)
Vakava vamma tai onnettomuus, esimerkiksi juna- tai auto-onnettomuus (17 %)
Puukotus tai ammuskelu (16 %)
Äkillinen, odottamaton läheisen kuolema (14 %)
Lapsen henkeä uhkaava sairaus (10 %)
Tapon tai vakavan onnettomuuden todistaminen (7 %)
Luonnonkatastrofi (4 %)

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https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumaper%C3%A4inen_stressih%C3%A4iri%C3%B6 (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumaper%C3%A4inen_stressih%C3%A4iri%C3%B6)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 20.01.2022, 21:46:15
QuoteMicrosoft hautasi useita ärsyttäneen Clippy-hahmonsa odottamattoman paluun

Monet vihasivat iloista Clippyä, eikä Microsoftkaan enää halua olla missään tekemisissä Office-maskottinsa kanssa.

MUISTATKO vielä Clippitin eli Clippyn?

Kukaan, joka on käyttänyt Micro­softin Word-tekstin­käsittely­ohjelmaa 2000-luvun vaih­teessa ei ole pystynyt välttä­mään ohjelman käyttöön liittyviä vinkkejä jakelevaa "avustajaa". Sormet olivat tuskin ehtineet koskettaa näppäimistöä, kun ohjelman oikeaan laitaan ilmestyi pirtsakka paperiliitin eli klemmari neuvomaan esimerkiksi kirjeen kirjoittamisessa.

Microsoft Office 97 -ohjelmistossaan debytoinut Clippy oli vain yksi Microsoftin suunnittelemista visuaalisista avustajista, mutta se nousi nopeasti niistä kuuluisimmaksi. Se sai myös vankan vihaajakuntansa, sillä kaikki eivät pitäneet iloisen avustajan pomppimisesta ruudulla.

Monille Clippyn vinkit olivat perustietoa tekstinkäsittelyohjelman toiminnasta, joten ei ihme, että paperiliitin sai maineen nenäkkäänä riesana.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/teknologia/art-2000006080251.html) 22.4.2019

Clippy 2.0:

QuoteWord voi auttaa sinua, jos et huomaa käyttäväsi loukkaavia tai sukupuolittuneita sanoja – Microsoft myöntää, ettei "woke-filtteri" toimi joka tilanteessa

Microsoftin tekstinkäsittelyohjelma Word voi opastaa käyttäjää inklusiivisemman tekstin kirjoittamiseen. Yhtiö kuitenkin myöntää, ettei toiminnossa riittää vielä kehitettävää. Suomenkielisessä Wordissa toiminto on pikaisen testin perusteella melko hyödytön.

Microsoft on tuonut Wordiin "woke-filtteriksikin" ivatun inklusiivisuusavustajan, jonka tarkoituksena on auttaa kirjoittajaa tuottamaan syrjimätöntä tekstiä ja välttämään esimerkiksi sukupuolittuneita termejä. Toiminto on tällä hetkellä saatavissa ainakin kuukausimaksullisen Microsoft 365 -tilauksen yhteydessä, mutta oletuksena se on pois päältä.

Microsoftin mukaan inklusiivisuusavustajan tarkoituksena ei ole "korjata kaikkia maailman ongelmia", vaan yksinkertaisesti herättää ihmisiä miettimään käyttämäänsä kieltä.

Suomenkielisessä Wordissa asetus löytyy menemällä Asetukset > Tarkistustyökalut > Kirjoitustyyli, Kielioppi > Asetukset. Syrjivä kielenkäyttö -valikossa käyttäjä voi valita, haluaako avustaja ehdottaa vaihtoehtoisia sanoja henkilön alkuperään ja uskontoon vai myös sosiaalisiin seikkoihin liittyen.

Toistaiseksi toiminto ei osaa liputtaa suomalaisista sanoista kuin lähinnä räikeän epäasiallisia ja alatyylisiä haukkumanimiä. Sen sijaan esimerkiksi esimies, palomies tai talonmies eivät täkäläiseen filtteriin jää.

Englanninkielisessä Wordissa ehdotetaan muun muassa post manin (postimies) tilalle postinkantajaa tai postin työntekijää, mankindin (ihmiskunta) tilalle sanaa humanity, ja herraa tai mestaria ilmaisevan masterin tilalle tarjotaan sanaa expert.
MTV (https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/word-voi-auttaa-sinua-jos-et-huomaa-kayttavasi-loukkaavia-tai-sukupuolittuneita-sanoja-microsoft-myontaa-ettei-woke-filtteri-toimi-joka-tilanteessa/8336180) 20.1.2022
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 21.01.2022, 00:47:02
No nyt Jordan Petersonkin otti sitten hatkat proffan hommista. Syistä alla, kuten myös siitä, miten sairaaksi on homma mennyt ja millaisen vaaran Peterson näkee woke-sadistien olevan. Syihin liittyen tuo oli aika "hyvä", että Petersonin oppilaatkin ovat "saastuneita", kun ovat olleet Petersonin luennoilla. Liittyy vähän samaan asiaan, mistä Lindsay on kirjoitellut, eli että woksteri-toimittelijat repii täysin peliverkkarinsa, jos joku väärämielinen kirjoittaa "heidän" mediassaan. Se kun välillisesti saastuttaa myös nämä hyvät ihmiset.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto (https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto)

QuoteJordan Peterson: Why I am no longer a tenured professor at the University of Toronto

The appalling ideology of diversity, inclusion and equity is demolishing education and business

I recently resigned from my position as full tenured professor at the University of Toronto. I am now professor emeritus, and before I turned sixty. Emeritus is generally a designation reserved for superannuated faculty, albeit those who had served their term with some distinction. I had envisioned teaching and researching at the U of T, full time, until they had to haul my skeleton out of my office. I loved my job. And my students, undergraduates and graduates alike, were positively predisposed toward me. But that career path was not meant to be. There were many reasons, including the fact that I can now teach many more people and with less interference online. But here's a few more:

First, my qualified and supremely trained heterosexual white male graduate students (and I've had many others, by the way) face a negligible chance of being offered university research positions, despite stellar scientific dossiers. This is partly because of Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity mandates (my preferred acronym: DIE). These have been imposed universally in academia, despite the fact that university hiring committees had already done everything reasonable for all the years of my career, and then some, to ensure that no qualified "minority" candidates were ever overlooked. My students are also partly unacceptable precisely because they are my students. I am academic persona non grata, because of my unacceptable philosophical positions. And this isn't just some inconvenience. These facts rendered my job morally untenable. How can I accept prospective researchers and train them in good conscience knowing their employment prospects to be minimal?

Second reason: This is one of many issues of appalling ideology currently demolishing the universities and, downstream, the general culture. Not least because there simply is not enough qualified BIPOC people in the pipeline to meet diversity targets quickly enough (BIPOC: black, indigenous and people of colour, for those of you not in the knowing woke). This has been common knowledge among any remotely truthful academic who has served on a hiring committee for the last three decades. This means we're out to produce a generation of researchers utterly unqualified for the job. And we've seen what that means already in the horrible grievance studies "disciplines." That, combined with the death of objective testing, has compromised the universities so badly that it can hardly be overstated. And what happens in the universities eventually colours everything. As we have discovered.

All my craven colleagues must craft DIE statements to obtain a research grant. They all lie (excepting the minority of true believers) and they teach their students to do the same. And they do it constantly, with various rationalizations and justifications, further corrupting what is already a stunningly corrupt enterprise. Some of my colleagues even allow themselves to undergo so-called anti-bias training, conducted by supremely unqualified Human Resources personnel, lecturing inanely and blithely and in an accusatory manner about theoretically all-pervasive racist/sexist/heterosexist attitudes. Such training is now often a precondition to occupy a faculty position on a hiring committee.

(...)

Furthermore, the accrediting boards for graduate clinical psychology training programs in Canada are now planning to refuse to accredit university clinical programs unless they have a "social justice" orientation. That, combined with some recent legislative changes in Canada, claiming to outlaw so-called "conversion therapy" (but really making it exceedingly risky for clinicians to do anything ever but agree always and about everything with their clients) have likely doomed the practice of clinical psychology, which always depended entirely on trust and privacy. Similar moves are afoot in other professional disciplines, such as medicine and law. And if you don't think that psychologists, lawyers and other professionals are anything but terrified of their now woke governing professional colleges, much to everyone's extreme detriment, you simply don't understand how far this has all gone.

Just exactly what am I supposed to do when I meet a graduate student or young professor, hired on DIE grounds? Manifest instant skepticism regarding their professional ability? What a slap in the face to a truly meritorious young outsider. And perhaps that's the point. The DIE ideology is not friend to peace and tolerance. It is absolutely and completely the enemy of competence and justice.

And for those of you who think that I am overstating the case, or that this is something limited in some trivial sense to the universities, consider some other examples: This report from Hollywood (...) "We spoke to more than 25 writers, directors, and producers — all of whom identify as liberal, and all of whom described a pervasive fear of running afoul of the new dogma. ... How to survive the revolution? By becoming its most ardent supporter. ... Suddenly, every conversation with every agent or head of content started with: Is anyone BIPOC attached to this?"

And this is everywhere — and if you don't see it, your head is either in the sand or shoved somewhere far more unmentionable. CBS, for example, has literally mandated that every writers' room be at least 40 per cent BIPOC in 2021 (50 per cent in 2022).

We are now at the point where race, ethnicity, "gender," or sexual preference is first, accepted as the fundamental characteristic defining each person (just as the radical leftists were hoping) and second, is now treated as the most important qualification for study, research and employment.

Need I point out that this is insane ? (...)

And if you think DIE is bad, wait until you get a load of Environmental, Social and Governance (ESG) scores . Purporting to assess corporate moral responsibility, these scores, which can dramatically affect an enterprise's financial viability, are nothing less than the equivalent of China's damnable social credit system, applied to the entrepreneurial and financial world. CEOs: what in the world is wrong with you? Can't you see that the ideologues who push such appalling nonsense are driven by an agenda that is not only absolutely antithetical to your free-market enterprise, as such, but precisely targeted at the freedoms that made your success possible? Can't you see that by going along, sheep-like (just as the professors are doing; just as the artists and writers are doing) that you are generating a veritable fifth column within your businesses? Are you really so blind, cowed and cowardly? With all your so-called privilege?

And it's not just the universities. And the professional colleges. And Hollywood. And the corporate world. Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity — that radical leftist Trinity — is destroying us. Wondering about the divisiveness that is currently besetting us? Look no farther than DIE. Wondering — more specifically — about the attractiveness of Trump? Look no farther than DIE. When does the left go too far? When they worship at the altar of DIE, and insist that the rest of us, who mostly want to be left alone, do so as well. Enough already. Enough. Enough.

Finally, do you know that Vladimir Putin himself is capitalizing on this woke madness? (...)

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3359807.html#msg3359807 (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3359807.html#msg3359807)

And all of you going along with the DIE activists, whatever your reasons: this is on you. Professors. Cowering cravenly in pretence and silence. Teaching your students to dissimulate and lie. To get along. As the walls crumble. For shame. CEOs: signalling a virtue you don't possess and shouldn't want to please a minority who literally live their lives by displeasure. You're evil capitalists, after all, and should be proud of it. At the moment, I can't tell if you're more reprehensibly timid even than the professors. Why the hell don't you banish the human resource DIE upstarts back to the more-appropriately-named Personnel departments, stop them from interfering with the psyches of you and your employees, and be done with it? Musicians, artists, writers: stop bending your sacred and meritorious art to the demands of the propagandists before you fatally betray the spirit of your own intuition. Stop censoring your thought. Stop saying you will hire for your orchestral and theatrical productions for any reason other than talent and excellence. That's all you have. That's all any of us have.

He who sows the wind will reap the whirlwind. And the wind is rising.

Koko kirjoitus höpöteltynä:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2rBE5zwAs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2rBE5zwAs)

Joitain Petersonin twiittaamia kommentteja kirjoitukseen:

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Mutta tämähän on vain tällainen pian ohimenevä höpötys...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tabula Rasa on 21.01.2022, 01:20:10
Quote from: Roope on 20.01.2022, 21:46:15
QuoteMicrosoft hautasi useita ärsyttäneen Clippy-hahmonsa odottamattoman paluun

Monet vihasivat iloista Clippyä, eikä Microsoftkaan enää halua olla missään tekemisissä Office-maskottinsa kanssa.

MUISTATKO vielä Clippitin eli Clippyn?

Kukaan, joka on käyttänyt Micro­softin Word-tekstin­käsittely­ohjelmaa 2000-luvun vaih­teessa ei ole pystynyt välttä­mään ohjelman käyttöön liittyviä vinkkejä jakelevaa "avustajaa". Sormet olivat tuskin ehtineet koskettaa näppäimistöä, kun ohjelman oikeaan laitaan ilmestyi pirtsakka paperiliitin eli klemmari neuvomaan esimerkiksi kirjeen kirjoittamisessa.

Microsoft Office 97 -ohjelmistossaan debytoinut Clippy oli vain yksi Microsoftin suunnittelemista visuaalisista avustajista, mutta se nousi nopeasti niistä kuuluisimmaksi. Se sai myös vankan vihaajakuntansa, sillä kaikki eivät pitäneet iloisen avustajan pomppimisesta ruudulla.

Monille Clippyn vinkit olivat perustietoa tekstinkäsittelyohjelman toiminnasta, joten ei ihme, että paperiliitin sai maineen nenäkkäänä riesana.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/teknologia/art-2000006080251.html) 22.4.2019

Clippy 2.0:

QuoteWord voi auttaa sinua, jos et huomaa käyttäväsi loukkaavia tai sukupuolittuneita sanoja – Microsoft myöntää, ettei "woke-filtteri" toimi joka tilanteessa

Microsoftin tekstinkäsittelyohjelma Word voi opastaa käyttäjää inklusiivisemman tekstin kirjoittamiseen. Yhtiö kuitenkin myöntää, ettei toiminnossa riittää vielä kehitettävää. Suomenkielisessä Wordissa toiminto on pikaisen testin perusteella melko hyödytön.

Microsoft on tuonut Wordiin "woke-filtteriksikin" ivatun inklusiivisuusavustajan, jonka tarkoituksena on auttaa kirjoittajaa tuottamaan syrjimätöntä tekstiä ja välttämään esimerkiksi sukupuolittuneita termejä. Toiminto on tällä hetkellä saatavissa ainakin kuukausimaksullisen Microsoft 365 -tilauksen yhteydessä, mutta oletuksena se on pois päältä.

Microsoftin mukaan inklusiivisuusavustajan tarkoituksena ei ole "korjata kaikkia maailman ongelmia", vaan yksinkertaisesti herättää ihmisiä miettimään käyttämäänsä kieltä.

Suomenkielisessä Wordissa asetus löytyy menemällä Asetukset > Tarkistustyökalut > Kirjoitustyyli, Kielioppi > Asetukset. Syrjivä kielenkäyttö -valikossa käyttäjä voi valita, haluaako avustaja ehdottaa vaihtoehtoisia sanoja henkilön alkuperään ja uskontoon vai myös sosiaalisiin seikkoihin liittyen.

Toistaiseksi toiminto ei osaa liputtaa suomalaisista sanoista kuin lähinnä räikeän epäasiallisia ja alatyylisiä haukkumanimiä. Sen sijaan esimerkiksi esimies, palomies tai talonmies eivät täkäläiseen filtteriin jää.

Englanninkielisessä Wordissa ehdotetaan muun muassa post manin (postimies) tilalle postinkantajaa tai postin työntekijää, mankindin (ihmiskunta) tilalle sanaa humanity, ja herraa tai mestaria ilmaisevan masterin tilalle tarjotaan sanaa expert.
MTV (https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/word-voi-auttaa-sinua-jos-et-huomaa-kayttavasi-loukkaavia-tai-sukupuolittuneita-sanoja-microsoft-myontaa-ettei-woke-filtteri-toimi-joka-tilanteessa/8336180) 20.1.2022

Tämän vuoksi olen siirtynyt mahdollisuuksien mukaan vapaan lähdekoodin ohjelmistoihin. Esim open office tarjoaa 2000-luvun kirjoitusohjelmiston ilman turhaa tilpehööriä ja kukin saa haluamansa laisen kokoonpanon lisäosista koota. Toisin kuin winroska jossa koko paketti on otettava vaikka siinä myytäisiin elimesi kiinalaiselle klinikalle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: artti on 22.01.2022, 01:25:13
Siirsin tänne toisesta ketjusta

Quote from: L. Brander on 21.01.2022, 18:40:53
Ei wokea, suvakismia jne. pelata sitä kautta, että ihmisillä olisi hyvä tahto. Tuossa pelataan kaikkein synkimmillä ja itsekkäimmillä asioilla. Katkeruus, viha, halu kontrolloida ihmisiä, jotka uskaltavat elää ja tekevät elämässään jotain.

Luonto kertoo, että ilo ja hymy ja myötätunto ja hellyys ja rakkaus ovat kehittyneet siksi, että nämä ovat evoluution voittajia

Totalitarismi käy sotaa iloa ja hymyilemistä ja hellyyttä ja myötätuntoa ja rakkautta vastaan, ja siksi totalitarismia vastaan taistellaan osoittamalla iloa ja hymyilemällä ja hellyydellä ja myötätunnolla ja rakkaudella

Totalitarismi on päivän sana. Totalitarismi mustamaalaa myötätuntoa, hellyyttä, rakkautta, iloa ja positiivisuutta. Totalitarismi ajaa ainoastaan kielteisiä ja tulehtuneita arvoja siksi, että se edistää sotilaallis-teollisen ja uutistiedotusvälineiden bisneksiä ja valtaa. Totalitarismi painostaa ja tukahduttaa ja kertoo mikä on oikeaoppista ajattelua

Totalitarismia ajaa etenkin sotilaallis-teollinen ja uutistiedotusvälineet, jotka pyrkivät tuomaan turvattomuutta sinne missä on turvallisuutta ja ankeutta sinne missä on iloa siksi, että sotilaallis-teollinen ja uutistiedotusvälineet tahtovat hajoittaa yhteiskuntia ja sosiaalisia rakenteita ja lietsoa vastakkainasettelua ja väkivaltaa

Totalitarismi sanoo ihmisyyden vastaisia kielteisiä arvoja sietokyvyksi, jolla totalitarismi kertoo tavoitteensa muokata täydellinen sotilas, joka on lohduttomuudessa kasvatettu häiriintyneeksi. Politiikka on sotilaallis-teollisen ja uutistiedotusvälineiden totalitaristisille pyrkimyksille orjuutettu käsinukke, joka simuloi demokratiaa samalla, kun ajaa totaalista kontrollia ja mielien muokkausta metodilla mieli on ensimmäinen ase. Sehän on tietenkin tärkeintä, että meillä on henkisesti valmennetut sotilaat, kaikki yhteiskunnassa on sille alisteista. Korostan, että realiteettien kautta katsominen on turvallisin ja ehjin ja kestävin arvorakennelma
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Histon on 24.01.2022, 19:55:21
Jani Kaaro jatkaa Woken ansiokasta ruotimista. Toki Halla-aho on esitellyt nämä ajatukset jo vuosikymmeniä sitten, mutta YLE:n joukoissa Kaaro edustaa ensimmäisiä varovaisia järjen ääniä.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12278138
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Jani Kaaron kolumni: Kuka saa arvostella syrjittyjä tai vierasta kulttuuria?
Enkö todellakaan voi kommentoida vähemmistön asioita, jos en itse kuulu vähemmistöön, Kaaro pohtii kolumnissaan.

Kuvitellaan, että kirjoitan kolumnin. Esitän siinä kritiikkiä jonkin vähemmistön toiminnasta, vaatimuksista tai moraalista. Kirjoitukseni herättää protestin: Olet etuoikeutettu! Et kuulu vähemmistöön, jota kritisoit – on parempi olla kommentoimatta asioita, joita ei ymmärrä.

Sitten käy vielä niin, että kritiikistäni provosoituneet ihmiset aloittavat kampanjan minua vastaan. He vaativat kirjoitustani poistettavaksi, ja kolumnipaikkani lopettamista. He ottavat yhteyttä kaikkiin avustamiini medioihin ja vaativat, että kirjoituksiani ei saa enää julkaista.

Viimeistään tässä vaiheessa huomaa, että esimerkkini ei ole kuvitteellinen – tällaista tapahtuu niin sanotussa woke-kulttuurissa. Yhdysvalloissa lukuisat akateemikot ja journalistit ovat menettäneet työpaikkansa koska he ovat sanoneet tai kirjoittaneet jotakin, joka ei ole miellyttänyt woke-kansaa.

Näin kävi esimerkiksi Philadelphia Enquirerin päätoimittajalle Black Lives Matter-liikkeen mielenosoitusten aikana. Mustiin kohdistuvaa poliisiväkivaltaa vastustavan liikkeen mielenilmaisuissa esiintyi myös mellakoita ja tuhottiin omaisuutta. Päätoimittaja sai lähteä(siirryt toiseen palveluun), koska hyväksyi lehteensä kolumnin otsikolla. Buildings Matter Too (On rakennuksillakin väliä).

Suuttujat suuttuivat, koska otsikossa annettiin heidän mielestään ymmärtää, että rakennukset ovat yhtä arvokkaita kuin ihmishenget. Siihen loppui arvostetun toimittajan 20 vuoden ura suuressa sanomalehdessä.
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Olen koettanut ymmärtää woke-ilmiön moraalista maisemaa Midgleyn essee mielessäni. Hänen mukaansa moraalirelativistit näkevät kulttuurit eristyneinä saarina, vaikka ne eivät ole olleet sellaisia vuosisatoihin. Kulttuurimme on täynnä lainasanoja ja muista kulttuureista lainattuja uskomuksia ja tapoja. Opimme tuntemaan omaa kulttuuriamme ja kehitymme vertaamalla itseämme toisiin.

Jos tämä pätee kulttuureihin, miksi se ei pätisi myös ryhmiin. Vertailemme omaa ryhmäämme toisiin ryhmiin. Se herättää meissä ajatuksia, kysymyksiä ja joskus kritiikkiäkin. Siksien millään pääse sinuiksi sellaisen ajatuksen kanssa, että joku ei voisi kommentoida toisen ihmisryhmän asioita, koska kommentoija on "väärässä positiossa".

Sen sijaan ajattelen, että meidän ei tarvitse sortua moraaliseen relativismiin sen enempää kuin moraaliseen absolutismiin. Riittää, jos pidämme mielemme avoinna sen suhteen, että voimme koettaa löytää objektiivisia moraalisia totuuksia.

Nekään eivät ole suljettuja ja muuttumattomia. Yhteiskunnat muuttuvat, ihmiset muuttuvat; moraaliset käsitykset on voitava avata ja ne on voitava arvioida ja neuvotella uudestaan. Se on ajatusten argumentointia eli perustelua ryhmien välillä ja ryhmien sisällä – ja lopulta omassa sydämessä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 27.01.2022, 15:09:32
Taas yksi twiittiketju woke-kultin luonteesta ja sen toimintatavoista. Alkuperäisessä ketjussa on mukana jonkin verran kuvitusta.

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https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1486556785741897732 (https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1486556785741897732)

Quote1/ Woke education activists have decided that during math class *5th graders* should learn to, and I quote: "challenge the hegemonic structure of marriage."

It's not just Critical Race Theory, they're bringing woke gender theory into k-12

Gender theory in k-12:

a thread

2/ This comes from a paper by Christopher Dubbs, education professor at East Stroudsburg University.

Dubbs wants k-12 teachers to use queer pedagogy (teaching methods) and to engage in "Queering Mathematics."

The key words for the paper are, of course, "equity" and "diversity"

3/ I will explain everything going on here so you can understand exactly what's happening.

Most people think the goal of a math teacher in k-12 is to teach math: to teach students how to do addition, subtraction, multiplication and division.

That's now how woke professors think

4/ As you can see in this video, woke teacher/activists believe teaching "Woke" Social Justice" is fundamental to ALL education.

In their view, the main role of the teacher is not to teach skills, it is to inculcate students into the "woke" Social Justice ideology.

5/ Here we have a woke teacher who does not know when America declared independence, and who says she doesn't teach the curriculum. Instead she chooses to teach things that aren't in the curriculum, such as "How to be an Anti-Racist" (which is the name of a book by Ibram Kendi).

6/ So we have to keep in mind that woke activist teachers see their job as being a political act.

That is, they see their job as being first and foremost to spread awareness and acceptance of their woke political ideology, agenda, and activism.

They say this explicitly:

7/ Why do they think this way?

In "The Critical Turn in Education" Isaac gottesman, explains how leftist brought Marxism into universities and radicalized education in the 70's (pic 1) and brought in Postmodern feminist ideas and critical race theory in the 80's and 90's (pic 2)

8/ There isn't time in this thread for the whole story, for now it's enough to know that from the 70's to the 90's activists (most notably Henry Giroux and Paulo Freire) succeeded in radicalizing education, and bringing in postmodernism, neo-marxism, and Critical Race Theory.

9/ The result is that there is now an entire cohort of teachers, activists, and radical professors who believe that k-12 education is a "site of struggle" where they are to engage in political action and to teach students to accept a particular sort of social justice politics.

10/ This is how you end up with a guy like Christoper Dubbs who wants to engage in "queering mathematics" in the name of diversity and equity.

So what does it mean when a professor wants to "queer mathematics?" What is he saying?

Let's discuss...

11/ In "Saint Foucault" David Halperin wrote:"'queer' does not name some natural kind or refer to some determinate object; it acquires its meaning from its oppositional relation to the norm. Queer is by definition whatever is at odds with the normal, the legitimate, the dominant"

12/ This means that "queer" has no stable clear definition. In this context queer means to be opposed to and idea, concept, practice, or discourse that is seen to be dominant, legitimate, or normal. It is "an identity without an essence."

Read that again, then let's continue.

13/ On this view any idea seen as dominant, settled, correct, hegemonic, or socially legitimate needs to be challenged, undermined, subverted, and challenged. Why? because any idea that is dominant is though of as having power, and woke theorists want to undermine that power.

14/ This is why the woke ideas surrounding transgenderism are, in academic circles, referred to "queer theory."

They want to subvert and undermine our societies ideas about sexuality, and gender. They believe the idea that men and women are mutually exclusive categories...

15/ Is an oppressive social construct created by straight white men to oppress anyone who isn't a straight white man. They think that Straight white men used the ideology of "science" to legitimize their ideas about sexuality, and they did this in order to benefit themselves.

16/ The idea is that straight white men used their power to make the things straight white men become the standard by which all sexuality was to be judged, and that they used this power to oppress anyone who did not fit with their ideals. In other words, woke gender activists...

17/ Think the idea that there are differences between men and women, most people are straight, and this is a result of biology, is a set of ideas straight white men just made up in order to make everyone conform to their arbitrary standard of straight white male sexuality.

18/ As such they think all the institutions, ideas, practices, and customs that result from these ideas need to be "deconstructed" and "dismantled." As such we need to challenge everything from the legitimacy of marriage to the idea that men and women are biologically different.

19/ As Christopher Dubbs shows, they think the place to do this is in the grade 5 classroom...during math class.

And, as we have seen, from the perspective of the woke activist this makes perfect sense. They think that k-12 education is ought to be a site of political struggle

20/ And since they think teaching is a political act, they think a good place to begin to politically liberate themselves from the idea that men and women are biologically different, is the grade 5 classroom while they're supposed to be teaching your kids how to do multiplication

21/ This is what they are doing. They are not just trying to make gay students feel at home in the classroom, they want to challenge both the fundamental axioms of mathematics, and the structure of marriage as we understand it.

They are doing this to your children.


22/ Make no mistake, they are going to do this behind your back until you force them to stop. They won't back down, negotiate, or compromise. they think that to allow you to tell them "no" would make them "complicit" in the oppression of anyone who isn't a straight white male.

23/ Now that you know what is going on, the only question that matters is "what are you going to do about it?"

And you better do something or your kid is going to come home thinking there's no difference between men and women, and that 2+2=5

no, really:

24/ So, what are you going to do about it?

You better have a plan.

/fin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 28.01.2022, 11:53:42
No niin laulutaidottomat, suihkun kautta uudelleen- ja poisoppimiskoulutukseen, hop, hop!

QuotePirjo Hiidenmaa: Laulutaidottomien kuoro

Tuttavani liittyi laulutaidottomien kuoroon. Kuorossa kaikki saavat laulaa, eikä kenenkään taitoja väheksytä. Kenenkään ei myöskään kuvitella laulavan väärin tahallaan tai muita pilkatakseen. Väärin laulamisesta ei loukkaannuta, eikä sitä moralisoida. Väärinlaulaja saa tilaisuuden harjaantua ja oppia, ja lauluilon ohella luotetaan siihen, että ihminen on oppivainen.

Sopisiko sama armelias ja oppimiseen luottava toimintatapa myös julkiseen yhteiskunnalliseen keskusteluun? Jos olen tulkinnut maailmanmenoa oikein, on joitakin aiheista, joista keskusteleminen on erityisen hankalaa. Ajatellaan vaikka keskusteluja ruokavalioista, sukupuolesta, feminismistä, kielen merkityksistä, tasa-arvosta, uskonnoista, ihmisten taustoista ja ominaisuuksista.

Toiset ovat koulutuksensa ja muun perehtyneisyytensä ansiosta harjaantuneita ajantasaisiin jaotteluihin ja käsitteisiin ja käyttävät tottuneesti sellaisia uudissanoja kuin assimilaatio, integraatio, cancelointi, fleksaaminen, semivegetaristinen, woke ja intersektionaalinen.

Toiset eivät tunne uusimpia ajatuskulkuja ja saattavat nojata vuosikymmenten takaisiin käsityksiin: sukupuolia on kaksi, toinen tulee Marsista ja toinen Venuksesta, ihminen on lihansyöjäeläin, sanat ovat asiallisia ja harmittomia, jos juuri minä en loukkaannu niiden käytöstä.

Ei ihme, että yhteistä säveltä ei ole helppo löytää. Mahdottomaksi sen löytäminen käy, jos erehtyminen ja väärinpuhuminen nähdään tahalliseksi kiusanteoksi ja jos ihmiselle ei anneta mahdollisuutta oppia uutta ja koetella aikaisempien tietojensa rajoja, eikä vain oppia myös poisoppia. Vanha itsestäänselvyydeksi pinttynyt käsitys ei enää päde - ehkä se ei ole koskaan pätenytkään.

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Jokainen aikakausi nostaa eri asiat valokeilaan. Käsillä olevat vuosikymmenet jäänevät historiaan aikana, jolloin tasa-arvo, yhdenvertaisuus, oikeudenmukaisuus, ihmisoikeudet, eri näkökulmien oikeutus sekä elämänvalintojen eettisyys puhuttavat erityisen paljon. Syytä onkin, jos maailmaa halutaan parantaa.

Sukupuolesta, kielestä ja etiikasta tarvitaan systemaattista tutkimusta ihan niin kuin mikrobeista ja mustista aukoista. Tämä tietää tarvetta uusille ilmauksille ja käsitteille, joiden avulla maailmaa jäsennetään uudelleen. Kestää aikansa ennen kuin uudet ilmaukset asettuvat osaksi yleiskieltä, mutta aivan varmasti ne asettuvat; niin ovat asettuneet lohkoketjut, mustat aukot, digitalisaatio, bitit, kyberavaruus ja geenisakset.

Keskustelussa päästään ajan oloon riitasoinnuttomaan tulokseen. Se vaatii kärsivällisyyttä, sillä laulutaitoisten on kestettävä laulutaidottomia, ja laulua opettelevien on kestettävä poisoppimisen tuskia ja uuden oppimisen hitaus. Pyrkimyksestä tasa-arvoon ja oikeudenmukaiseen kohteluun ei pidä tinkiä, ei myöskään kenenkään puheoikeudesta.

Kirjoittaja on tietokirjallisuuden professori Helsingin yliopistossa.
Suomen Kuvalehti (https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/kolumni-voiko-yhteiskunnallista-keskusteluakin-oppia/) 27.1.2022

Vaikka kuinka kovasti toivoisin, ei taida olla mustaa huumoria vaan yliopistomaailman synkkää nykytodellisuutta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 28.01.2022, 14:27:50
Quote from: Roope on 28.01.2022, 11:53:42
QuotePirjo Hiidenmaa: Laulutaidottomien kuoro

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Sukupuolesta, kielestä ja etiikasta tarvitaan systemaattista tutkimusta ihan niin kuin mikrobeista ja mustista aukoista. Tämä tietää tarvetta uusille ilmauksille ja käsitteille, joiden avulla maailmaa jäsennetään uudelleen. Kestää aikansa ennen kuin uudet ilmaukset asettuvat osaksi yleiskieltä, mutta aivan varmasti ne asettuvat ...

Hei, mutta tuotahan on jo kokeiltu ajat sitten. Eikä se lopputulos ollut silloin "riitasoinnuton tulos", vaan eräs ihmiskunnan pahimmista bordelleista. Se pakotti ihmiset vaikenemaan ja noudattamaan virallista normitettua kieliliturgiaa ikävien seurauksien pelossa. Se jähmetti yhteiskunnan ja tappoi innovatiivisuuden. Lopulta systeemi kaatui omaan mahdottomuuteensa. Vain kolmisenkymmentä vuotta sitten. Silti jotkut kaipaavat edelleen noita synkkiä ja pimeitä aikoja. When will they ever learn ...

Prof. Michał Głowiński – Uuskielen olemus ja sen analysointi (https://hommaforum.org/index.php?topic=128460.0)   
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 05.02.2022, 00:16:23
Epäsäännöllinen Seerut-katsaus... Mimmillä vaan on omasta mielestä aika hyviä heittoja wokstereihin liittyen.

https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla (https://twitter.com/seerutkchawla)

QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Actual marginalised group: people with PTSD.

Actual privileged group: People who've had very nice lives but want to say they're traumatised.

1:39 AM · Jan 9, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Things that are labelled 'social constructs' in the west are blindingly obvious realities everywhere else in the world.


12:30 AM · Jan 11, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

It's almost always people who've made an identity out of being a 'compassionate' person, that take your breath away with their cruelty, when the mask slips.

5:27 AM · Jan 14, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

I just saw a story on instagram where a white woman is warning "the community" about me being 'harmful'- and the next story slide said 'listen to the labour of black & brown women.'

You can't make this shit up.
🙄😂

1:52 AM · Jan 22, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

No one with good intentions will coerce you into not trusting your own senses.

1:59 AM · Jan 24, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

I would rather live in a world with 'man up' and 'suck it up buttercup' than one with endless validating & coddling.

1:57 PM · Jan 25, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

People are so used to indirect, fluffy, coddling speech that being spoken to directly & neutrally like an adult feels like an assault.

3:32 PM · Jan 25, 2022·Twitter for iPhone
QuoteSeerut K. Chawla@seerutkchawla

Postmodernism has broken so many brains.

5:31 AM · Jan 27, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

V...n baizuot...
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 05.02.2022, 05:00:12
Quote from: akez on 28.01.2022, 14:27:50
Quote from: Roope on 28.01.2022, 11:53:42
QuotePirjo Hiidenmaa: Laulutaidottomien kuoro

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Sukupuolesta, kielestä ja etiikasta tarvitaan systemaattista tutkimusta ihan niin kuin mikrobeista ja mustista aukoista. Tämä tietää tarvetta uusille ilmauksille ja käsitteille, joiden avulla maailmaa jäsennetään uudelleen. Kestää aikansa ennen kuin uudet ilmaukset asettuvat osaksi yleiskieltä, mutta aivan varmasti ne asettuvat ...

Hei, mutta tuotahan on jo kokeiltu ajat sitten. Eikä se lopputulos ollut silloin "riitasoinnuton tulos", vaan eräs ihmiskunnan pahimmista bordelleista. Se pakotti ihmiset vaikenemaan ja noudattamaan virallista normitettua kieliliturgiaa ikävien seurauksien pelossa. Se jähmetti yhteiskunnan ja tappoi innovatiivisuuden. Lopulta systeemi kaatui omaan mahdottomuuteensa. Vain kolmisenkymmentä vuotta sitten. Silti jotkut kaipaavat edelleen noita synkkiä ja pimeitä aikoja. When will they ever learn ...

Prof. Michał Głowiński – Uuskielen olemus ja sen analysointi (https://hommaforum.org/index.php?topic=128460.0)
Jos uuskieliset tms. ideologiat toimivat 1917-45(-53), luultavasti toimivat nykyäänkin yhtä hyvin...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: zupi on 23.02.2022, 23:04:49
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QuoteA quick thread on DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion):

DEI is Communism for the 21st century. E, Equity, is the goal; D&I, Diversity and Inclusion, are the means. A DEI officer in your institution or company is a political officer, a commissar.

Equity is the goal of DEI. It means adjusting shares to make people equal by making group categories equal. Administering equality through redistribution is socialism. When the guiding theory of redistribution is Marxist, it is Socialism, enforced pseudo-Communism.

Marxist Theory holds that if Socialism is enforced long enough and forcefully enough, the people who live with it will come to see it as natural and just and be psychologically incapable of living without it. It will then be spontaneous, and the administration will wither away.

Equity under Woke Marxism is the repackaging of Socialism for neo-Marxist (Critical) Identity Marxism, which mostly replaces class antagonism with identity politics. It's still the same. Your DEI officers exist to bend your organization to enforcing Equity, i.e., Neo-Socialism.

Diversity is a ruse, worse than a fraud. Critical and Woke Marxists interpret views through a lens they call structural determinism, which says that structural power determines ones views and values. Thus, to qualify as "Diverse," you have to articulate your determined voice.

You are not "Diverse" unless you give voice to the Critical Woke Marxist perspective of your identity—unless you have the Woke politics. This is why Larry Elder was called "the black face of white supremacy" by the LA Times. He's not "Diverse" because his voice isn't Critical.

Diversity is therefore a matter of your politics first and your appearance/identity second. This makes it a political office. When the underlying political theory is Marxist, it makes those officers and voices commissars. Diversity is the installation of commissars for Equity.

Inclusion is a justification for purges and censorship of ideas and people who do not support Party goals (Equity, the totalitarian enforcement of Socialism). Political officers have the unique lens to determine what behavior and speech creates feelings of "exclusion."

Exclusion must be understood structurally, like everything else in Marxism. Only oppressed ("protected") classes can be structurally excluded, and only DEI commissars and structurally aggrieved members of victim classes can ascertain what is "exclusionary" to them.

Ideas that "harm" "protected classes" must be repressed to promote "Inclusion" (Repressive Tolerance, creating tolerance by repressing opposition to Marxism). This can include the mere presence of "problematic" individuals, necessitating political purges. Censorship and purges.

DEI officers are therefore Identity Marxist commissars. They enforce a new form of Socialism ("Equity") by appointing themselves ("Diversity") and purging dissent and dissenters ("Inclusion").

"Belonging" takes Inclusion a step further by demanding positive affirmation for "Diverse" (political) members of "protected" classes. Please clap. Don't stop clapping. Whoever stops clapping first is not promoting "Belonging" and may be "problematic," requiring purging.

But James! Big corporations and billionaires are requiring this stuff through ESG requirements, not "Marxists." Listen, my sweet summer child, it's those people who have the grand (Marxist) vision for the world, and DEI, is a nearly perfect tool for arbitrary enforcement of rules

Meanwhile, the big players look so moral, so socially just (actually, Socially Just, which means Neo-Communism, what you get after enforcing Social Equity until people need it to function). It's a perfect (Marxist) cover for their power grab.

Under the S ("Social" (Justice)) of ESG, big power brokers who want totalitarian control of everything can entice and force companies and institutions, and eventually individuals, to adopt DEI standards they set, which will be rooted in redistribution (Marxism) indefinitely.

Because the Social Justice requirements look positive and forward thinking (a next-generation "civil rights" initiative) while being rooted in Identity Marxist (arbitrary power-grabbing) Theory, which is fake, they're perfect for the task of creating "Social" commissars.

Now you understand how DEI is the practical installation of a (Neo)-Communist program in institutions from which power flows and its simple relationship to the broader ESG ("Sustainability") power-grabbing device, which is both fascistic and Communist in this way.

DEI isn't just a fraud, and it's definitely a fraud, it's also a racket, like installed by racketeering and extortion. Worse, it has a political agenda, installing a Marxian totalitarian system. I advise heavy legal action against it everywhere on any or all of these grounds.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1496490827681570822 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1496490827681570822)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 24.02.2022, 00:34:07
Vielä varmuuskopio twiitistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 24.02.2022, 19:06:26
UK spies told to check 'white privilege' and use gender-neutral words
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1571372/uk-spies-white-privilege-russia-war-ukraine-mi5-mi6

QuoteMI5 and MI6 officers will gain new guidance on improving diversity and inclusion in the security services as Europe faces the worst crisis since the Second World War after Russia unleashed an attack on Ukraine on Thursday night. The leaked guide called Mission Critical says new rules around diversity and inclusion are vital to keep the nation safe.

Spies are advised not to use words including "strong" and "grip" because they can "reinforce dominant cultural patterns".

Sir Stephen Lovegrove wrote: "This toolkit is called Mission Critical because a diverse and inclusive culture is critical to succeeding in our national security missions."
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"Avoid jargon, hierarchy or gender biases.
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The document also urges spooks to declare their pronouns.
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Diversity and inclusion guidance will now be embedded in mainstream core training and leadership modules.

A Whitehall spokesman said of the guidance: "They are fundamental to the national security of the UK.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 03.03.2022, 19:06:38
Republikaanit yrittivät saada estettyä kriittisen rotuteorian opetuksen Wyomingissä, mutta demokraattiedustajan urhea puhe sai estettyä tämän.
QuoteAfter a Jewish lawmaker's impassioned speech, Wyoming's conservative legislature rejects critical race theory ban

It seemed a slam dunk: The popular conservative cause of banning "critical race theory" in schools, being taken up for a vote in one of the country's most lopsidedly conservative legislatures.

Then a Democrat, one of just seven in the 60-member Wyoming legislature, stood up Thursday and said he could not support the bill because he was Jewish.

"In this bill, page 9, line 19 states, 'The teaching of history must be neutral, without judgment,'" state Rep. Andy Schwartz said during debate. "Now, how can that be possible? If I were a Native American, I doubt I could accept the neutral, judgment-free approach about the relocation, the decimation of the Indigenous population. If I were a Black American, I doubt I could accept a neutral, judgment-free approach on the enslavement of millions of Americans.

"But I'm Jewish, and I cannot accept a neutral judgment-free approach on the murder of 6 million Jews in World War Two."

Schwartz, whose Teton County district includes the city of Jackson, said that, to understand the depth of depraved actions, one must be discomfited by them.

"Going to page 8, lines 19 and 20, it says 'no one should feel discomfort or distress,'" he said. "But in learning about the Holocaust, I have suffered a lifetime of discomfort and distress, and it's essential that as students learn about this dark time in our history, they to feel discomfort in distress."
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The bill garnered a majority of the chamber's votes, 35, but not the two-thirds needed to advance the bill. The 24 lawmakers who voted against advancing the bill included a significant number of the chamber's 51 Republicans.

One of Schwartz's Democratic colleagues suggested on Twitter that his speech moved votes against the bill.

"The House just defeated a bill that would have banned critical race theory in schools after a powerful speech by Representative Schwartz, a Jewish man who refuses to learn about the Holocaust in a neutral manner," Rep. Karlee Provenza said.
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https://www.jta.org/2022/02/18/politics/after-a-jewish-lawmaker-gave-an-impassioned-speech-wyomings-conservative-legislature-rejected-banning-critical-race-theory

QuoteUC Berkeley education professor Zeus Leonardo: "To abolish whiteness is to abolish white people. That's very uncomfortable perhaps, but it asks about our definitions of what race is and what racial justice might mean."

This is what teachers are learning.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 11.03.2022, 03:16:07
Juicy sai aivan liian pienen muistutuksen tekosistaan mutta sitten heitti vielä pienen shown päälle tuomion kuultuaan.. Narsistinen woke pelle koko komeudessaan tuli esille.

Jussie Smollett EXPLODES after jail sentence: 'I AM NOT SUICIDAL, I AM INNOCENT'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEt8aDyYGm8
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 11.03.2022, 13:24:02
Smollett olisi hiukka kireämmältä tuomarilta saattanut saada päälle syytteen oikeuden halventamisesta.

No, toivottavasti istuu edes tuon puoli vuotta pytyssä ja joutuu maksamaan noi noin 150000 dollaria sakkoina ja asianajokulut päälle.

Vahva haju, että tyypistä kehittyy OJ Simpson 2.0 ja ajautuu vähitellen vararikkoon kaikkien lakikulujensa kanssa. Ja aivan ansaitusti, kun muistaa mistä tuo tuomio tulee eli rasistisen rikoksen lavastamisesta ja viattomien ihmisten syyttelystä sekä poliisille valehtelusta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 02.04.2022, 21:24:39
zupi on harmillisesti lopettanut Hommailun :(

Rufo ei luovuta :)

Kukaan ei tiennyt miehestä mitään noin vuosi sitten. Ajoi asiaa ja sai pikkuhiljaa lisää seuraajia.

Nyt ollaan siinä tilanteessa että kaikki punaiset mediat hyökkäävät häntä vastaan ;D

Viimeinen paljastus katkaisi kamelin selän.

Jenkkilässä #canceldisney yms. trendaa. Heeetkinen? Eikö me olla cancel kulttuuria vastaan :o
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 12.04.2022, 17:58:53
Terrifying moment female conservative University of Buffalo student is 'hunted down' by woke mob screaming 'no justice, no peace,' after she invited prominent black Republican to speak
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10707747/Moment-woke-mob-hunts-female-student-invited-black-Republican-speak.html

Quote

  • Lt. Col. Allen West was the speaker for an event at the University of Buffalo on Thursday called, America Is Not Racist—Why American Values are Exceptional
  • During the Q&A session, protesters began chanting and banging on the walls
  • West was escorted by police out of the event as protests continued outside
  • Therese Purcell, University of Buffalo student and President of Young Americans for Freedom, was with West and the police escort when she became separated
  • She said the protesters chased her into the bathroom where she hid for hours
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Therese Purcell, president of the Young Americans for Freedom, a campus club that organized the event, said she and her fellow members only wanted to bring these open dialogues of racism to campus.

But protests erupted after the filled-to-capacity event, leading to an angry mob that chased Purcell, leaving her afraid of what would have happened if she wasn't able to hide from them.

She shared terrifying footage of the incident online, and says it left her fearing for her life, Fox & Friends First reported.

'I realized I was the target for these protesters, and about 200 of my fellow students started hunting me down on campus, started chasing me,' she said.   

Purcell said she heard the angry crown screaming, 'go get her, go get her, go capture her, the girl in the red dress.'
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'While they were screaming that we were trying to silence black voices, we were actually trying to bring this conversation to campus,' Purcell said. 'But instead of asking questions, they resorted to violence.'

Purcell said the threats escalated as protesters began screaming 'no peace,' and 'banging on the walls,' which prompted police to escort West out of the building. 
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Purcell said the mob moved on to hunt down other members of the club and claims they physically assaulted one of the board members by kicking and punching him.

'I didn't think it was going to be as controversial... to say on an American campus that American values are a good thing,' Purcell said.

'American values are worth protecting. I don't think they like Colonel West's message that he did experience racism... but he overcame that, and he decided not to be a victim... and that America gave him that equality of opportunity that many other countries don't.'
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 22.04.2022, 18:00:17
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 09.11.2021, 17:03:46
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 07.10.2021, 02:22:40
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 01.10.2021, 03:22:40
Eukko alkoi opiskelemaan uutta alaa ja siellä on queer-arkeologiaa, feminismi sitä ja tätä, ensimmäisenä opetettiin sukupuolia olevan lukuisia. Surullista nähdä omin silmin miten tämä syöpä on vallannut koko koululaitoksemme.
Nyt on tullut jo tehtäviksi kymmeniä sivuja kirjoitettavaa rasismista, kulttuurin omimisesta ym. hömpästä. Luentoja kuinka pahaa isänmaallisuus on ja kuinka pahoja "vahvat miehet" ovat. Suomalaisten vertausta fasistisiin natseihin koska venäläisiä kuoli vankileireillä.

Ei ihme kun noista laitoksista tulee ulos niin sekopäistä porukkaa. Jännityksellä odotan mitä seuraava viikko tuo tullessaan. :roll:
Hullummaksi vain menee nuo luennot, vasta pääaiheena oli demokratia, sisältö perustui Jean-Paul Sartren ajatuksiin ja lopulta luento kulminoitui ongelmalasisen kiihkofeministin kommunismin ihannointiin. Ovat ilmeisesti tiedostaneet kommunismin ikävän maineen kun sitä kutsuttiin jollain uudella hienolla termillä. Tuolla yliopistossa saa ilmeisesti käyttää vain marxilaisia lähteinä, muita kun ei ole vielä tullut vastaan. ;D
Pitkästä aikaa päivitystä, viimeksi käsiteltiin valkoisuutta. Tuli ne klassikot kuten "valkoinen ei voi kokea rasismia", "valkoinen on aina sortaja", "valkoinen on aina valta-asemassa", "valkoinen on aina etuoikeutettu", käytännössä katsoen opetettiin vihaamaan valkoisia. Ei ihme kun nuoret vasemmistotytöt ovat niin sekaisin tuommoisten luentojen jälkeen. Sitä minä ihmettelen miten kukaan voi uskoa tuommoista pseudotiedepaskaa, yliopistoihin taitaa nykyään päästä liikaa <100 ÄO porukkaa..
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 29.04.2022, 11:56:47
Alfa-TV:llä on juttu vasemmiston uudesta yrityksestä vaientaa keskustelu ja ohjaa se haluamalleen tielle:

https://alfatvuutiset.fi/nakokulma-vasemmisto-julkaisi-kielioppaan-lue-mista-sinut-seuraavaksi-tuomitaan/

QuoteVasemmistofoorumin tiedottaja Elina Vainikainen on tarttunut toimeen ja toimittanut oppaan nimeltään Syrjimätön kieli – Opas inklusiiviseen kielenkäyttöön ja viestintään. Kansan Sivistyön Liiiton julkaiseman teoksen sisällysluettelo on silmiä avaavaa luettavaa: Sukupuolitietoinen kieli, Sateenkaaritietoinen kieli, Antirasistinen kieli, Luokkatietoinen kieli ja niin edelleen.

"Ensimmäinen askel kohti sukupuolitietoista kielenkäyttöä olisikin ymmärtää, että sukupuolia on enemmän kuin kaksi ja että tämän tulee näkyä myös sanavalinnoissa... Niin ikään puheen voi aloittaa "hyvät naiset ja herrat "-mantran sijaan vaikkapa "hyvät kuulijat", "läsnäolijat", "ystävät" tai vasemmistolaisissa ympäristöissä "toverit", Vainikainen kirjoittaa.

Kun teosta lukee, huomaa, että sukupuoli on niin vaikea asia, että se kannattaa jättää mainitsematta oikeastaan aina. Vainikainen opastaa: "Esimerkiksi tilaisuuksissa puheenvuoroja vieraille ihmisille jaettaessa "nainen takarivissä" -tyyppisten muotoilujen sijaan voi mainita vaikkapa henkilön paidan värin tai onko hänellä silmälasit." Näin tulee oppaan mukaan toimia, koska "kenenkään sukupuolta tai seksuaalisuutta ei tule olettaa ulkonäön, pukeutumisen tai nimen perusteella."

Syrjimätön kieli -opas tekee kuitenkin selväksi, että kaikki eivät ole tasa-arvoisia. Vainikaisen mukaan miehiä voi kyllä kutsua setämiehiksi, koska kyseessä on "punch-up" eli komiikan tekeminen pilkkaamalla ylöspäin. Mutta tytötellä ei saa koskaan, koska "oli tytöttelyn tarkoitus mikä hyvänsä, se on kulttuurisena käytäntönä aina halventava ja naisia alistava".

Lisää woke shittiä jutusta.

Vasemmisto on aina pyrkinyt kauppaamaan tarjoamansa kurjan todellisuuden muuttamalla sanoja ja kieltä ( https://bearingdrift.com/2015/12/04/liberal-lexicon-learning-the-language-of-leftists/ ).

Uusilla ja jatkuvasti muuttuvilla määritelmillä luodaan a) erilainen mielikuva todellisuudesta kun mitä se on, b) luodaan mielikuva tieteellisestä ja akateemisesti validista diskurssista ja c) hämmennetään kuulija luomalla uusia trendisanoilla, joita pitäisi ymmärtää jos haluaa olla ajan tasalla eli awaken (hereillä) eli woke.

Käytännössä vasemmisto pyrkii kieltä muuttamalla vähättelemään oman politiikkansa todelliset vaikutukset, demonisoida vastustaja kärjistyksillä ja tehdä ihmiset juurettomiksi sekoittamalla käsitteitä. Se on siis tapa kylvää sekaannusta yhteiskuntaan ja bluffaa kuulija kannattamaan heidän politiikkaa.

Esimerkiksi median käyttämä "äärioikeisto" on sana, joka liitetään systemaattisesti kaikkien niiden puolueiden eteen, jotka kritisoivat vihervasemmistolaista diskurssia. Kun tätä toistetaan tarpeeksi, syntyy mielikuva, että puolue on jotenkin vaarallisen radikaali eikä vain konservatiivinen eli maltillinen politiikassaan.

Samalla lailla erinäiset vasemmistoagendat kuten vaikkapa lasten sukupuolimuutokset eli transseksualismi kääritään ihmisoikeuspaperiin. Seksuaalisuudestaan epävarmoille teineille annetut puberteettiblokkerit ja kastroinnit onkin vasemmistodiskurssissa "ihmisoikeuksien edistämistä" eikä tietämättömien ja kasvavien lasten törkeää ideologista indoktrinaatiota ja pahoinpitelyä. Ne, jotka vastustavat transseksualismia eli lasten henkistä ja fyysistä tuhoamista, vastustavatkin sitten ihmisoikeuksia eli ovat pahoja ihmisiä.

Tämän Elina Vainikaisen kirja on opas siihen, miten pitäisi puhua vasemmiston mielestä eli miten vasemmiston diskurssia edistetään kielen kautta ja kertoa kellä on oikeus puhua ja kellä ei (esim. "setämiehet" vs. "tytöttely").

Samankaltaisia kirjoja on tullut ulos monessa maassa ja niiden tarkoitus on synnyttää itsesensuurin ilmapiiri, jonka puitteissa pitää olla hiljaa ellei noudata kirjojen puheopasta. Puheoppaasta poikkeaminen sanotaan loukkaavan ihmisiä ja sitä myös manifestoidaan käytännössä huutamalla alas väärän sanan lausujat esim. somessa. Koska harva ihminen haluaa loukata muita eikä halua päätyä simputetuksi, sopeudutaan vasemmiston uuskieleen tai ollaan kokonaan hiljaa eli sensuroidaan omaa puhetta.

Se, joka ei ymmärrä / osaa woke kieltä eli kielen uutta ja alati muuttuvaa terminologiaa, on myös juntti ja "setämies" ja voidaan automaattisesti sulkea ulos keskustelusta "tietämättömänä". Muuttelemalla kieltä ja käsitteistöjä luodaan siis uusi "tieteellinen" tapa keskustella, jonka seurauksena diskurssista poikkeavat ovat määritelmällisesti tietämättömiä eikä siis aiheen "asiantuntijoita". Sillä ei ole väliä, että aihe on puhtaasti mielipidekysymys; jos ei osaa ilmaista itsensä oikein ei yksinkertaisesti ole "akateemisesti" kvalifioitu.

Niille, joita kiinnostaa vasemmiston propaganda, painostuksen ja valheiden kulttuuri suosittelen lukemaan Saul Alinskyn Rules for Radicals ( https://historyofsocialwork.org/1946_Alinsky/1971%20-%20Saul%20Alinsky%20-%20Rules%20for%20Radicals%20-%20OCR.pdf , yhteenveto: https://fbcoverup.com/docs/library/2016-08-27-Saul-Alinsky-12-Rules-for-Radicals-Obama-Hillary-Playbook-posted-Aug-27-2016.pdf ).

Alinsky oli kommunisti ja poliittinen agitaattori 60-70 -luvuilla USA:ssa. Hän mm. järjesti painostuskampanjoita yrityksiä ja poliitikkoja vastaan ja on jonkinlainen guru vasemmistopiireissä. Kaikki radikaalit vasemmistolaiset ovat perehtyneet hänen teoksiinsa ja ammentavat niistä oppeja.

Rules for Radicals kertoo erilaisista painostuskeinoista, joilla vasemmistoagenda voi edistää. Säännöt perustuvat psykologisiin havaintoihin ihmisten käyttäytymisestä ja miten sitä voi kääntä heitä vastaan. Kyse on siis käytännössä epärehellisestä poliittisesta aktivismista, jossa ei argumentoida meriiteillä vaan pyritään saamaan vastapuolesta yliote nolaamalla, sabotoimalla ja valehtelemalla.

Konservatiivin / nuivan kannatta lukea kirja sen takia, että se paljastaa menetelmiä, joilla vasemmisto pyrkii ajamaan päämääriään. Eli tunne vihollisesi.
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Post by: Kemolitor on 29.04.2022, 12:13:43
Quote from: Totti on 29.04.2022, 11:56:47
Alfa-TV:llä on juttu vasemmiston uudesta yrityksestä vaientaa keskustelu ja ohjaa se haluamalleen tielle:

https://alfatvuutiset.fi/nakokulma-vasemmisto-julkaisi-kielioppaan-lue-mista-sinut-seuraavaksi-tuomitaan/

Itse opas:
Elina Vainikainen: Syrjimätön kieli (pdf, 84 s) (https://www.ksl.fi/app/uploads/2022/03/KSL_Syrjimaton_kieli_saavutettava.pdf)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 29.04.2022, 20:49:37
Quote from: Kemolitor on 29.04.2022, 12:13:43
Quote from: Totti on 29.04.2022, 11:56:47
Alfa-TV:llä on juttu vasemmiston uudesta yrityksestä vaientaa keskustelu ja ohjaa se haluamalleen tielle:

https://alfatvuutiset.fi/nakokulma-vasemmisto-julkaisi-kielioppaan-lue-mista-sinut-seuraavaksi-tuomitaan/

Itse opas:
Elina Vainikainen: Syrjimätön kieli (pdf, 84 s) (https://www.ksl.fi/app/uploads/2022/03/KSL_Syrjimaton_kieli_saavutettava.pdf)

En lukenut tuota Elinan kirjoitusta, mutta oletan, ettei siinä  lainkaan mainita yleistä käytäntöä.

Huom: Sukupuoleen liittyviä määritelmiä muutetaan aina tarvittaessa.

Nyt tuli luettua koko kirjoitus ja olin oikeassa.

Tuossa kirjoituksessa, ensin tuomittiin kaikenlainen vihapuhe ja todettiin ettei ketään henkilöä tai ryhmää saa leimata negatiisivin termein, sitten monta, monta sivua myöhemmin. Mainittiin oikeisto-populistit, jotka ovat rasisteja.

Kyseessä on todella pitkä kirjoitus yli 80 sivua, jonka koko sisällön, olisi voinut tiivistää erittäin lyhyesti
Quote from:  Elina Vainikainen: Syrjimätön kieli
Kohtele kaikkia ihmisiä yksilöitä, heidän taustasta riippumatta ja ilman mitään negatiivisia ennakkoluuloja!
Ironisesti tuo kirjoitus sisältää, kirjoittajan piilorasismia.
Ensin määritellään rasismi,
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Rasistisessa ajattelussa jokin ihmisryhmä nimitetään toista ryhmää alempiarvoiseksi
Sitten mainitaan faktana (valkoisten) miesten etuoikeudet. Eikö tuo "etuoikeutettu" termi  nimenomaan perustu oletukseen, että on etuoikeutettuja ihmisiä ja sellaisia ihmisiä joilla ei ole kaikkia oikeuksia, toisinsanoen alempiarvoisia ihmisiä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Beenari on 30.04.2022, 01:16:17
^ "itse en viitsi elää kuten opetan muita elämään"
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 30.04.2022, 10:05:29
QuoteSyrjimättömästä kielestä ilmestyi opas: "Rasistiset puheet tukevat rasistisia käytäntöjä"

Syrjimätön kieli -opas on helsinkiläisen Elina Vainikaisen pitkäaikainen projekti. Nyt se on Kansan Sivistystyön Liiton julkaisema.

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– Valta-asemissa olevat ihmiset ovat pyrkineet vuosisatoja pönkittämään asemaansa myös kielellisillä keinoilla. Valtaväestöllä on tarve määritellä vähemmistöt ja alisteisessa asemassa olevat ihmiset.

Mutta entäs se näkemys, etteihän Suomessa ketään syrjitä?

– Totta kai olen kuullut tämän. Se on juuri etuoikeutettujen ihmisten tapa puhua. Jos ei koskaan kohtaa syrjintää arjessaan, on helppo väheksyä sitä. Siksi pitää kuunnella vähemmistön omia kokemuksia. Koska ihmisellä on oikeus määritellä itsensä, pitää kuunnella, miten he puhuvat itsestään.

Vainikainen toteaa, että omalle oppimiselle pitää antaa aikaa.

– Asiat voivat tuntua aluksi vaikeilta, kun pitää opiskella uusia sanoja ja lähestymistapoja. Mutta joudummehan arjessamme joka tapauksessa koko ajan oppimaan uutta. Esimerkiksi pandemian aika on osoittanut, että ihmiset pystyvät ottamaan asioita haltuunsa nopeasti, jos haluavat.

Vainikainen puhuu hyväntahtoisuusolettamasta.

– Jos ihminen yrittää olla kohtelias ja tekee parhaansa, häneen pitää suhtautua ymmärtäväisesti, vaikka hän tekisi virheitä.

Miksi sitten pitää käyttää oikeita termejä?

– Koska käyttämällä tietynlaisia sanoja muokkaamme maailmaa tietynlaiseksi. Sanoilla luomme mielikuvaa erilaisista ihmisistä. Esimerkiksi vitsit ja mielikuva romaneista työn vieroksujina ovat osaltaan aiheuttaneet sen, että peruskouluikäiset romanilapset eivät saa työhöntutustumispaikkoja. Huumorilla ja urbaanilegendoilla on suuri merkitys. Rasistiset puheet tukevat rasistisia käytäntöjä.

Opas on saatavilla Kansan Sivistystyön liitosta. Siitä on valmisteilla myös koulutus, jonka Vainikainen vetää.
Kansan Uutiset (https://www.kansanuutiset.fi/artikkeli/4722393-syrjimattomasta-kielesta-ilmestyi-opas-rasistiset-puheet-tukevat-rasistisia-kaytantoja) 23.4.2022

Kiinnostaisi Vainikaisen näkemys tämän syrjimättömäksi määritellyn kielen suhteesta havainnoituun todellisuuteen, mutta taitaa olla liikaa vaadittu.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 30.04.2022, 14:10:55
Piti huvikseen tutkia hieman tuota Elinaa, yllättäen niin stereotyyppinen profiili kuin olla ja voi, twiititkin luonnollisesti pelkkää äärivasemmistolaista mölinää. Sääliksi käy tuon oppilaat (jos semmoisia edes on).
https://twitter.com/vainikainen

E: Positiivistakin löytyi tuolta Twitteristä, opas ei ole aiheuttanut juuri minkäänlaista pöhinää, ehkä se on vasemmistollekin liian sakeaa tavaraa :D
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Post by: migri on 25.05.2022, 06:57:02
Tästä tulee vielä hauskaa... Onnistuuko Ricky "cancelloimaan" oman shownsa?

On muuten hyvä tuo Supernature, suosittelut!!

Ricky Gervais "Supernature"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmu6guz2LVc
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 25.05.2022, 15:39:51
 Kansan Uutiset 23.4.2022 (https://www.kansanuutiset.fi/artikkeli/4722393-syrjimattomasta-kielesta-ilmestyi-opas-rasistiset-puheet-tukevat-rasistisia-kaytantoja)
QuoteSyrjimättömästä kielestä ilmestyi opas: "Rasistiset puheet tukevat rasistisia käytäntöjä"

QuoteValta-asemissa olevat ihmiset ovat pyrkineet vuosisatoja pönkittämään asemaansa myös kielellisillä keinoilla. Valtaväestöllä on tarve määritellä vähemmistöt ja alisteisessa asemassa olevat ihmiset.

Se on juuri etuoikeutettujen ihmisten tapa puhua. Jos ei koskaan kohtaa syrjintää arjessaan, on helppo väheksyä sitä. Siksi pitää kuunnella vähemmistön omia kokemuksia

Bolsevikkeja ei enää kiinnosta työtä tekevä enemmistö kapitalistien sorron kohteena. Nyt puhutaan siitä, miten heterot sortaa muunsukupuolisia, laihat lihavia ja valkoiset ruskeita.


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 30.05.2022, 18:40:11
Quote from: Roope on 30.04.2022, 10:05:29
QuoteSyrjimättömästä kielestä ilmestyi opas: "Rasistiset puheet tukevat rasistisia käytäntöjä"

Syrjimätön kieli -opas on helsinkiläisen Elina Vainikaisen pitkäaikainen projekti. Nyt se on Kansan Sivistystyön Liiton julkaisema.
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Opas on saatavilla Kansan Sivistystyön liitosta. Siitä on valmisteilla myös koulutus, jonka Vainikainen vetää.
Kansan Uutiset (https://www.kansanuutiset.fi/artikkeli/4722393-syrjimattomasta-kielesta-ilmestyi-opas-rasistiset-puheet-tukevat-rasistisia-kaytantoja) 23.4.2022

Elina Vainikainen esittelee sellaisenkin uuden käsitteen kuin "aito sananvapaus", joka tarkoittaa jonkinlaista pakotettua itsesensuuria.

QuoteSanoista tekoihin

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Vihapuhe ei kuitenkaan ole mikään vitsi. Toissa viikonloppuna Yhdysvaltojen Buffalossa nuori valkoinen mies ampui kuoliaaksi kymmenen ihmistä supermarketissa alueella, jossa iso osa asukkaista on mustia. Ampuja jätti jälkeensä manifestin, jossa avaa tekonsa taustoja. Valkoista ylivaltaa, antisemitismiä ja rotuvihaa pursuava teksti ei jätä epäselväksi, millaisesta ideologiasta teko kumpusi.

Se ideologia on pelottavan lähellä somesotureita.

Ihmisoikeuksien yleismaailmallinen julistus laadittiin toisen maailmansodan jälkeen. Sillä haluttiin varmistaa, etteivät holokaustin kauhut ikinä toistuisi. Olennaista nykykeskustelun kannalta on se, että jo tuolloin ymmärrettiin sanojen muokkaavan maailmaa ja voivan johtaa tekoihin: julistuksessa kiellettiinkin paitsi syrjintä, myös yllytys siihen. Esimerkiksi Suomen lainsäädännöstä löytyvä pykälä kiihotuksesta kansanryhmää vastaan uusintaa tätä ajattelua.

Nykyisessä keskusteluilmapiirissä, jossa sananvapaus liian usein typistyy valtaväestön oikeudeksi käyttää herjaavia sanoja, toivoisi ihmisiltä enemmän ymmärrystä historiasta. Holokausti ei alkanut kaasukammioista: se alkoi loukkaavista sanoista ja halventavista puhetavoista, joilla luotiin mielikuvia ja perusteltiin sortavaa politiikkaa. Emme me ole tästä Suomessakaan vapaita: myös esimerkiksi saamelaisten ja romanien vuosisataista sortoa on pönkitetty alistavilla puhetavoilla ja ihmisryhmien leimaamisella. Samalla näiltä ihmisiltä on riistetty oikeus puhua omasta puolestaan.

[...]

Puheet ja teot kietoutuvat yhteen, ja jos haluaa torjua syrjiviä tekoja, on puututtava myös syrjiviin puheisiin.

Ilman empatiaa ja solidaarisuutta sananvapaus on vain kovaäänisimpien tyranniaa. Ihmisoikeuksien edistäminen vaatiikin myös omien kielellisten etuoikeuksien tunnistamista, sen ymmärtämistä, ettei minun oikeuteni käyttää loukkaavaa sanaa voi ylittää toisen ihmisen oikeutta olemassaoloon. Aito sananvapaus edellyttää toisen ihmisen hyväksymistä ainutkertaisena ja arvokkaana olentona, joka saa määritellä identiteettinsä ihan itse – sananvapautensa avulla. Se vaatii dialogia, ei pelkkiä monologeja.
Feministipistoja-blogi (https://blogit.kansanuutiset.fi/feministipistoja/sanoista-tekoihin) 25.5.2022

Quote from: Elina VainikainenHolokausti ei alkanut kaasukammioista: se alkoi loukkaavista sanoista ja halventavista puhetavoista, joilla luotiin mielikuvia ja perusteltiin sortavaa politiikkaa.
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Puheet ja teot kietoutuvat yhteen, ja jos haluaa torjua syrjiviä tekoja, on puututtava myös syrjiviin puheisiin.

Aika rajua yksinkertaistamista ja historian uudelleentulkintaa. Weimarin tasavallassa oli aikoinaan tiukat kiihottamislait – liekö vastaavia ollut tuolloin missään muualla – mutta ne ja natsien saamat kovat sananvapaustuomiot (jopa vankeutta) eivät estäneet holokaustia.

Ei ole mitään näyttöä siitä, että sananvapauden ylimääräinen rajoittaminen tuottaisi sellaisia tuloksia, joilla sitä perustellaan.

Quote from: Elina VainikainenAito sananvapaus edellyttää toisen ihmisen hyväksymistä ainutkertaisena ja arvokkaana olentona, joka saa määritellä identiteettinsä ihan itse – sananvapautensa avulla. Se vaatii dialogia, ei pelkkiä monologeja.

Mikä dialogi, kun wokessa vaaditaan vaikenemista ja "turvallisia tiloja", joissa ei tarvitse altistua toista mieltä oleville?
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Post by: Titus on 30.05.2022, 19:16:55
woke "tasa-arvoilijat" perustivat baarin tai kahvilan tjtn... ( = uutinen! )

Kalliossa avataan uusi kahvilabaari – suunnattu erityisesti naisille ja sukupuolivähemmistöille

QuoteKolmannella linjalla avataan kesäkuun alussa uusi kahvilabaari. Se on suunnattu erityisesti naisille ja sukupuolivähemmistöille sekä heidän ystävilleen.

Tilan takana on Kvääristö-hanke, joka keräsi viime kesänä kahvilabaarille yhteensä noin 48 000 euron rahoituksen. Kvääristön tavoitteena on rakentaa Helsinkiin uusi ja turvallisempi ravintola. Kvääristö kertoo sosiaalisessa mediassa, että tilaan ovat tervetulleita kaikki, kunhan käyttäytyy kunnioittavasti muita kohtaan.

Kyseessä on suurehko ravintola: asiakaspaikkoja on 84. Asiakastilaa on yhteensä 150 neliötä. Tilassa aiotaan järjestää myös tapahtumia.

https://www.helsinginuutiset.fi/paikalliset/4637169
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Post by: Näkkileipä on 12.06.2022, 19:24:32

Quote from: Elina Vainikainen

...Aito sananvapaus
edellyttää toisen ihmisen hyväksymistä ainutkertaisena ja arvokkaana olentona, joka saa määritellä identiteettinsä ihan itse – sananvapautensa avulla....
Mikäli ymmärsin oikein tuon kohdan niin...
Sellaiset henkilöt, jotka määrittelevät muita ihmisiä, eivät voi hyväksyä Aitoa Sananvapautta.
Miksiköhän Elina Vainikainen itse määrittelee muut ihmiset olennoiksi, vai onko se sitä nykyistä valikoivaa sananvapautta, joihin toisilla on rajaton oikeus ja toisilla ei?
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.06.2022, 16:09:08
Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/pauli.vahteraristiinassa/posts/7546606408747333Pauli Vahtera Vantaalla

Nyt on mitta täysi tätä helvetin wokellusta.

Yhdistetty hiihto ja mäenlasku on yksi hienoimpia olympialajeja. Nyt se ollaan poistamassa olympiakisoista, koska naiset eivät kilpaile yhdistetyssä.

100 vuoden hieno perinne tuhotaan tähän tasa-arvohölmötykseen. Oikeampi tapa on järjestää naisille  ja niille sadoille muille sukupuolille omat yhdistetyn kilpailut. Uskaltavathan naiset osallistua mäenlaskuunkin.
No, sitten keksitään jotain muuta. Koska afrikkalaiset eivät harrasta talviurheilua, kielletään seuraavaksi talviolympialaiset kokonaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 14.07.2022, 11:09:30
Hesarin Visio-puolella pitkä Yhdysvaltain huippuyliopistoihinkin levinneen woke-kulttuurin puolustus ja mitätöinti. Patrik Haverinen vähättelee cancel-kulttuurin merkitystä ja häivyttää sen valta-aseman, taustat ja tavoitteet.

Wokessa ei toimittajan mukaan ole oikeastaan kyse politiikasta vaan ihmisoikeuksista, eikä woke ole sananvapaus- tai muu ongelma, ja jos onkin, vika on sananvapauden käytöllään provosoivien, yhä oikeammalle siirtyneiden konservatiivien, jotka vaarantavat demokratian.

QuoteRepublikaanien epätoivo

Yhdysvaltain merkittävimmät konservatiiviajattelijat ravaavat Ivy League -yliopistojen kampuksilla paasaamassa "woke-kulttuurin" vaarallisuudesta. Uhka demokratialle löytyy kuitenkin aivan muualta kuin vasemmistolaistuvasta opiskelija-aineksesta, kirjoittaa HS Vision toimittaja Patrik Haverinen.

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Vain viikkoja myöhemmin Texasin tunnettu republikaanisenaattori Ted Cruz matkusti samalle kampukselle esittämään huolensa opiskelijoiden mielipiteiden yksipuolisuudesta. Tapaus nousi uutisotsikoihin, kun opiskelija kysyi Cruzilta, harrastaisiko hän suuseksiä miehen kanssa, jos se lopettaisi maailman nälänhädän.

Pian maailman rikkain mies Elon Musk twiittasi, että Yale on woke-viruksen keskipiste, joka yrittää tuhota sivilisaation.

OLEN seurannut kuohuntaa lähietäisyydeltä. Kun aloitin viime syksynä opiskelun hyvin liberaalina tunnetussa Yalen yliopistossa, en uskonut, että joutuisin kampuksella koko maan kulttuurisodan ytimeen.

Ilmapiiri Yhdysvalloissa on heikentynyt etenkin Donald Trumpin presidenttikauden jälkeen, eikä kahtiajako ole jäänyt ainoastaan poliittiseksi. Kiistaa käydään niin oikeiden persoonapronominien käytöstä kuin lastenohjelmistakin. Maan sisälle on kasvanut kaksi kansaa, joiden ei voisi uskoa asuvan maantieteellisesti samojen rajojen sisällä.

Politiikan tutkimuksen johdantokurssillakin toisteltiin kevään ajan, kuinka vakuuttuneita monet professori Jacob Hackerin kollegatkin ovat siitä, että maassa syttyy pian sisällissota.

Mitä Yalessä oikein tapahtuu, ja miksi republikaanit pelkäävät jäävänsä eliittiopiskelijoiden jalkoihin?

KULTTUURISOTA on jo terminä kiistanalainen. Yleensä sillä tarkoitetaan konfliktia, jonka taustalla ovat eri kansanosien uskomukset ja käsitykset yhteiskunnallisista normeista. Yhdysvalloissa keskustelun on kuitenkin kritisoitu vievän liikaa huomiota pois aidon sotaisista vaaranpaikoista: kouluampumisista, rasistisen väkivallan noususta ja poliisin vallan väärinkäytöstä.

Toisaalta monet uskovat, että taustalla on yksi ja sama konflikti, jonka taustat ulottuvat orjuuden aikoihin.

Vuosisatojen historia institutionaalisesta rotusyrjinnästä näkyy vinoumana demokratian eri asteilla. Tilanteen korjaamiseen ei ole vieläkään löytynyt tarpeeksi monelta riittävää tahtotilaa.

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DeSantis leimasi seksuaalisten suuntautumisten ja sukupuoli-identiteettien avaamisen puolelle asettuneen Disneyn "woke"-yhtiöksi. Termistä on tullut julkisessa keskustelussa kuin kirosana, jonka heittämisen jälkeen rakentava keskustelu tyssää kuin seinään – kumpikin osapuoli asettuu puolustuskannoille ja kokee olemassaolonsa uhatuksi.

Merkitsevä ero eri ihmisryhmien oikeuksista puhuttaessa on siinä, ettei kukaan ole vakavissaan sulkemassa valkoisia heteromiehiä yhteiskunnan ulkopuolelle, kun taas monet muut kansanosat taistelevat yhä turvallisuudentunteesta omassa kotimaassaan.

Useiden amerikkalaisyliopistojen hakuprosesseissa harrastetaankin positiivista syrjintää, jotta vähemmistöjen aiemmin elämässään kohtaamaa mahdollisuuksien epätasa-arvoa voidaan paikata. Republikaanit näkevät tämän jatkumona Bidenin toteuttamille lupauksille etniseen vähemmistöön kuuluvan naisen nimittämisestä varapresidentiksi ja korkeimman oikeuden tuomariksi.

Kiintiöt ovat herättäneet niin kiivaita tunteita, että Yalen vähäväkinen mutta äänekäs oikeistosiipi on luonnehtinut niiden ajamista presidentin kauheimmaksi hirmuteoksi.

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KAIKESTA vaikuttamistyöstä huolimatta republikaanien menestys tulevina vuosikymmeninä voi olla vaakalaudalla, koska yhä useampi hyvin toimeentuleva, hyvin koulutettu kaupunkilainen löytää poliittisen kotinsa toiselta puolelta käytävää.

Yale on tästä ääriesimerkki. Republikaanit saivat vain alle kolme prosenttia työntekijöiden vaalikampanjalahjoituksista vuosina 2013–2020, ja merkittävä osa yliopiston kasvateista on nousevaa arvoliberaalia yhdysvaltalaiseliittiä. Opiskelijat haluavat muuttaa yhteiskunnasta lähes kaiken aina oman yliopistonsa johdosta alkaen. Pöytäkeskusteluissakaan ei pelätä sosialismin tai intersektionaalisen feminismin puolesta puhumista.

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Oman seurantani perusteella myös republikaanien kannattajat saavat äänensä kuuluviin lähes kaikkialla New Havenissä vähemmistöasemastaan huolimatta, kunhan uskaltavat avata suunsa ja pystyvät sivistyneeseen keskusteluun. Harmittavan usein tilaa saavat vain ne, joiden tarkoituksena on provosoida eikä väitellä älyllisen kiinnostuneesti.

Irvokkaaksi asetelman Ivy League -instituutioissa tekee vain se, että monilla on tapana puhua tunneilla kauniita köyhien auttamisesta ja hiilineutraaliudesta, mutta lähteä päivän päätteeksi liikepankki Goldman Sachsin työpaikkahaastatteluun.

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Ääripolarisoituneessa yhteiskunnassa vastapuolen ideologia nähdään yhdessä paketissa ilman sävyeroja. Tällöin demokratian perusarvojen ja ihmisoikeuksien puolustaminen sekoittuu tarpeetta täysin erillisiin, oman huomionsa ansaitseviin debatteihin poliittisesta korrektiudesta ja cancel-kulttuurista. Edes maalle eksistentiaalisia kysymyksiä, kuten lasten turvallisuutta tai toimintakykyisen kongressin ylläpitoa, ei osata pitää irrallaan puolueiden välisestä vastakkainasettelusta.

Suomalaisena tuntuu uskomattomalta, että niin suuri osa maan opiskelijoista leimataan radikaaleiksi, vaikka paatoksen ytimessä on monella sivistysvaltion perusasioita. Millä logiikalla ihmisoikeuksien puolustaminen on ääriajattelua?

Monet liberaaleista yhdysvaltalaisyliopistoista lähtöisin olevat ajatusmallit kantautuvat tänä päivänä alta aikayksikön myös suomalaisnuorison Instagram- ja TikTok-käyttäytymiseen. Kantaa on otettava kaikkeen ja infolaatikot jaettava omalla alustallaan, ellei halua vaikuttaa välinpitämättömältä, etuoikeutetulta kakaralta.

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Välillä aktivismi voi silti kääntyä itseään vastaan, kuten Waggonerin mielenosoituksen jälkeen kävi. Konservatiivit kokivat sen seurauksena entistä vahvemmin, että heidät vaiennetaan.

Samalla he saivat lisää pontta väitteisiinsä orwellilaisesta yhden totuuden yhteiskunnasta, jota kohti maa on heidän mukaansa matkalla demokraattipuolueen nuorison kasvettua politiikan huippupaikoille.

Niin ymmärrettävää kuin opiskelijoiden turhautuminen seksuaalivähemmistöille vihamielisen puhujan kritiikittömään kuulemiseen olikin, tekisi siitä seurannut perusteellinen keskustelu sananvapaudesta hyvää missä tahansa.

Yalessä puoliavoimesti demokraatteja kannattaneet professorit ovat alkaneet kiinnittää lisää huomiota siihen, että vastapuolen argumentit otetaan paremmin huomioon eikä niille naureskella.

Tässä onkin Yhdysvaltojen mittapuulla vasemmistolaisemmiksi määritellyillä demokraattinuorilla työsarkaa ja tasapainoteltavaa: toisaalta ihmisoikeuksia ja oikeusvaltiota uhkaavalle retoriikalle ei haluta antaa alustaa, mutta yhtäältä ääriäänien sulkeminen yhteiskunnallisen keskustelun ulkopuolelle vain heittää bensaa liekkeihin.

TOISIN kuin Cruz kumppaneineen väittää, kuvatun kaltaiset mielenosoitukset eivät kuitenkaan ole syy maan demokratiakehityksen huolestuttavalle suunnalle.

Syy löytyy hänen omasta puolueestaan, jota näpeissään pitävä joukko on valmis paitsi yllyttämään väkivaltaiseen vallankaappaukseen, myös priorisoimaan aseyhtiöiden rahat koululaislasten henkien edelle ja kaveeraamaan mieluummin äärioikeistolaisten ryhmien kanssa kuin suojelemaan vähemmistöjä.

Maan politiikan tutkijat rakastavat termiä asymmetrinen polarisaatio, jolla kuvataan republikaanien liikahtaneen etenkin 2000-luvulla merkittävästi enemmän oikealle kuin demokraattien vasemmalle. Toisin sanoen kahtiajako ei ole ainoastaan syventynyt, vaan kyse on suuremmasta liikkeestä poliittisen kartan oikeassa reunassa.

Tästä kertoo se, että yhä useammat tutkijat ovat alkaneet tänä keväänä nähdä sisällissodan syttymisen aitona mahdollisuutena.

"Kulttuurisota edeltää aina ampumasotaa", totesi Culture Wars -kirjallaan mainetta niittänyt sosiologi James Davison Hunter Politicolle Capitolin viimevuotista valtausyritystä puidessaan.

Tehokkainta myrkkyä vastakkainasettelun kärjistymiselle on Yalen moton mukaisesti "valo ja totuus". Kun osapuolet elävät toistensa kanssa eri todellisuuksissa, ei erimielisyyksiä voida enää ratkaista pyöreän pöydän ympärillä.

Jäljellä ovat vain miekat.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000008867343.html) 14.7.2022

Kuvauksesta ja puolustelusta tuli taas mieleen Kiinan kulttuurivallankumous.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 14.07.2022, 11:42:06
QuoteIrvokkaaksi asetelman Ivy League -instituutioissa tekee vain se, että monilla on tapana puhua tunneilla kauniita köyhien auttamisesta ja hiilineutraaliudesta, mutta lähteä päivän päätteeksi liikepankki Goldman Sachsin työpaikkahaastatteluun.

Mitäs yllättävää tässä on? Maaseudun pelloille sontaa lapiolla levittämäänkö joku etuoikeutettu, kultalusikka suussa syntynyt, nirppanokka lähtisi maailmaa pelastamaan? Vihreiden touhua kun seuraa, niin kovin elitistiseltä se vaikuttaa. Havittelevat olevansa sitä korkeinta politbyroota, jota säännöt eivät koske.

Yale ei ole muuten kovin edullinen paikka, jos ei saa apurahoja.

QuoteHow much does it cost to go to Yale for 4 years out of state?
Total Costs
Estimated Budgets   
On-Campus Other Budget   $3,470
Books and Supplies   $1,000
Non-Resident Total Budget   $79,370
Out-of-State Tuition   $57,700


QuoteYalessä puoliavoimesti demokraatteja kannattaneet professorit ovat alkaneet kiinnittää lisää huomiota siihen, että vastapuolen argumentit otetaan paremmin huomioon eikä niille naureskella.

Johtuisiko siitä, että omat argumentit eivät kestä minkäänlaista lähempää tarkastelua?  ;D Esimerkiksi väittämät siitä, että mies voi synnyttää? Ei voi eikä tule voimaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 14.07.2022, 12:26:05

Tuo Hesarin Haverinen on tavannut Yalessa joitain joiden mielestä "sisällissota ei tunnu kaukaiselta".

En ole varma terminologiasta, mutta jotain sisällissodan kaltaista USA tarvitsisi. Wokea ja sen rahoittajia vastaan pitäisi alkaa toimia rajusti. 
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: IDA on 14.07.2022, 13:02:49
QuoteOman seurantani perusteella myös republikaanien kannattajat saavat äänensä kuuluviin lähes kaikkialla New Havenissä vähemmistöasemastaan huolimatta, kunhan uskaltavat avata suunsa ja pystyvät sivistyneeseen keskusteluun.

Ilmeisen sivistynyttä keskustelua Haverisen ja liberaalien mukaan on kuitenkin se, että kysytään puhujalta "harrastaisitko miehen kanssa suuseksiä, jos se poistaisi maailman nälän."
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Ajattelija2008 on 14.07.2022, 14:05:48
Patrik Haverinen on valmistunut ylioppilaaksi 2020 eli on ihan untuvikko. Hänen kirjoittama teksti on tyypillinen "this time is different" -purkaus, kun ankanpoikanen ensimmäisen kerran sukeltaa lampeen.

USA:ssa oli kulttuurisota 1950-luvulla, kun äärivasemmistolaisia canceloitiin.

Kulttuurisota oli myös 1960-luvulla, kun rotuerottelua poistettiin.

1970 tienoilla oli kulttuurisota Vietnamin sodasta ja Watergatesta.

Ronald Reaganin kaudella taisi olla pieni kulttuurisota häntä vastaan?

Vuonna 2001 käynnistyi ihan oikea sota äärimuslimeja vastaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: sancai on 14.07.2022, 14:30:47
Quote from: IDA on 14.07.2022, 13:02:49
QuoteOman seurantani perusteella myös republikaanien kannattajat saavat äänensä kuuluviin lähes kaikkialla New Havenissä vähemmistöasemastaan huolimatta, kunhan uskaltavat avata suunsa ja pystyvät sivistyneeseen keskusteluun.

Ilmeisen sivistynyttä keskustelua Haverisen ja liberaalien mukaan on kuitenkin se, että kysytään puhujalta "harrastaisitko miehen kanssa suuseksiä, jos se poistaisi maailman nälän."
Pakko tarttua tuohon nostamaasi lainaukseen. Tämä on erittäin klassinen sananvapauden kulttuuria rapauttavien argumentti. "Eri mieltä saa olla, kunhan keskustelee sivistyneesti/ei syyllisty vihapuheeseen jne.". Sana "sivistys" tarkoittaa tietysti yliopistoliberaalien yksipuolissti määrittelemiä normeja, sääntöjä, sallittuja sanoja, ajatuksia ja ideoita. Samoin Republikaaneilla ei ole oikeutta määritellä, mikä on sivistynyttä ja mikä epäsivistynyttä, vaan yksinoikeus on vasemmistolla. Käytännössä lainaus kuuluukin "Republikaaneilla on sananvapaus, koska he saavat puhua demokraattien sallimalla tavalla".

Tämä on ovela strategia monella tapaa. Se vetoaa siihen "porvarilliseen" oikeistolaiseen osaan, jolle kunnollisuus, hyveellisyys ja lakien noudattaminen on tärkeämpää kuin omien arvojen edistäminen. Tyypillinen Kokoomuslainen tai Rino-republikaani on aivan kauhuissaan ajatuksesta, että he olisivat valtainstituution silmissä sivistymättömiä tai maalaisia. Ihan sama, vaikka instituutiossa valtaa pitäisivät radikaalikommunistit. Tämä sananvapauden uudelleenmäärittely sivistyneen ja kiltin puheen vapaudeksi uppoaa heihin kuin häkä, mutta se on nimen omaan uudelleenmäärittely. Esimerkiksi Yhdysvaltain perustuslain sananvapauskäsiys ei tunne sivistymättömän tai antisensitiivisen puheen rajoittamista. Loukkaavan ja sivistymättömän puheen salliminen on sama asia kuin sananvapaus, koska valtaideologian mukailu ei ole koskaan tarvinnut sananvapauden suojaa. Jopa Pohjois-Koreassa sinulla on täysi sananvapaus ylistää vallassa olevaa Juche-aatetta.

Itse asiassa vastapuolen sananvapauden rajoittamisen oikeutattaminen vastapuolen itse aiheutetulla sivistymättömyydellä on jopa sitä puhtainta "klassismia" eli luokkasyrjintää. Kautta aikain sivistymättömyys on yhdistetty alempiin yhteiskuntaluokkiin ja sivistyksen vaatimusta käytetty mitätöimään vähempiosaisten esittämä kritiikki.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 14.07.2022, 15:08:27
Quote from: sancai on 14.07.2022, 14:30:47Kautta aikain sivistymättömyys on yhdistetty alempiin yhteiskuntaluokkiin ja sivistyksen vaatimusta käytetty mitätöimään vähempiosaisten esittämä kritiikki.

Samaa tehdään nykyisin hieman eri tavoin eli:

- Etkö luota TIETEESEEN!

- Tutkimusten mukaan... (milloin ne tutkimukset ovat kenelläkään takataskussa?)

- Äärioikeistolainen (ne on väärässä jo lähtökohtaisesti)

- Peräkamarin pojat (persuja muuten äänestää aika moni yrittäjä eli todellisia peräkamarin poikia ne)

- Ilmastonmuutos! (need I say more?)

- Greenpeace/YK/Greta Thunberg tai kuka muu vaan julkisuudessa oleva Oikealla Asialla oleva taho tai NGO niin sinä tietty olet väärässä

Noin yhteenvetona voi todeta, että minkäänlaiseen oikeaan vuoropuheluun tai väittelyyn ei ole edes tarkoitus ajautua vaan huutaa toinen suohon, kun sillä ei ole komea tohtoraattia tai nippua tutkimuksia takataskussaan tai - herregyd - kuuluu perussuomalaiseen puolueeseen tai tekee ihan mitä tahansa, joka näitä oikeamielisiä punakaartilaisia herranterttuja loukkaa tai ahdistaa millä tavalla tahansa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: IDA on 14.07.2022, 15:20:06
Periteisesti sivistynyt puhe on ollut sellaista, että ei kiroilla ja koroteta ääntä, puhutaa suoraan asiasta, eikä käydä henkilöön. Nykyisin varsinkin tuo viimeinen on kääntynyt päinvastoin ja lähes aina käydään henkilöön, eikä asiasta puhuta lainkaan, eikä varsinkaan suoraan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 14.07.2022, 21:46:09
Quote from: Roope on 14.07.2022, 11:09:30
Hesarin Visio-puolella pitkä Yhdysvaltain huippuyliopistoihinkin levinneen woke-kulttuurin puolustus ja mitätöinti. Patrik Haverinen vähättelee cancel-kulttuurin merkitystä ja häivyttää sen valta-aseman, taustat ja tavoitteet.

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...Useiden amerikkalaisyliopistojen hakuprosesseissa harrastetaankin positiivista syrjintää, jotta vähemmistöjen aiemmin elämässään kohtaamaa mahdollisuuksien epätasa-arvoa voidaan paikata, Republikaanit näkevät tämän jatkumona Bidenin toteuttamille lupauksille etniseen vähemmistöön kuuluvan naisen nimittämisestä varapresidentiksi ja korkeimman oikeuden tuomariksi.

Kiintiöt ovat herättäneet niin kiivaita tunteita, että Yalen vähäväkinen mutta äänekäs oikeistosiipi on luonnehtinut niiden ajamista presidentin kauheimmaksi hirmuteoksi...
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Ilmeisesti ketään oikeamielistä ei voisi vähempää kiinnostaa, millaisen rasistisen mielikuvan tuollainen positiivinen syrjintä, synnyttää kiintiövähemmistöön kuuluvaan henkilöä kohtaan. Kun epäsuorasti vihjataan, että tiettyihin ihmisryhmiin kuuluvat, tarvitsevat erityisiä toimenpiteitä ja tukea joilla he pärjäävät maailmassa.

Quote from:  Positiivinen syrjintä käytännössä"Sinä pääset tänne töihin ja sinut valittiin monien hakijoiden joukosta. Mutta ei todellakaan pätevyyden, koulutuksen tai työhistorian perusteella, vaan ainoastaan siksi, että kuulut etniseen vähemmistöön olemalla tummaihoinen"
Ja tuollaista hakijaa halventavaa käytäntöä, pidetään jostain käsittämättömästä syystä, positiivisena asiana ja tuskin tuo kannustaa hankkimaan itselleen lisää pätevyyttä ja ammattitaitoa, kun niillä ei käytännössä ole mitään negatiivista vaikutusta työpaikan saamisessa.

Toiseksi, miksi tuota käytäntöä ei käytetä tasa-arvoisesti, niin että kaikki halukkaat pääsevät mihin tahansa haluamaansa työpaikkaan, vaikka ei olisi tippaakaan pätevyyttä ja ammattitaitoa, täysin siitä riippumatta, kuuluuko enemmistöön vaiko vähemmistöön?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 15.07.2022, 12:37:40
QuoteUseiden amerikkalaisyliopistojen hakuprosesseissa harrastetaankin positiivista syrjintää, jotta vähemmistöjen aiemmin elämässään kohtaamaa mahdollisuuksien epätasa-arvoa voidaan paikata

Positiivinen syrjintä on ainoastaan uuskieltä, jolla syrjinnästä tehdään salonkikelpoista. Kyllä minuakin vituttaisi olla se opiskelija, jolle paikkaa ei myönnettäisi, vaikka olisin pääsykokeissa ja papereiden perusteella parempi.

Ilmeisesti sitten koskee kaikkia aloja matematiikasta fysiikkaan ja naistieteistä antropologiaan? Seuraavaksi saamme sitten kyvyiltään vajaita tai keskinkertaisia fyysikkoja ja vaikkapa ydinvoimala-asiantuntijoita sekä kaikesta vouhkaavia demonisia naissukupuolen aasintuntijoita.

Tässä on sama mekanismi kuin siinä, että kaikille aktiivisuudesta ja osaamisesta huolimatta myönnettäisiin sama arvosana. Lopuksi ketään ei kiinnosta opiskella, kun omalla osaamisella tai opiskelulla ei voi vaikuttaa lopputulokseen vaan kaikesta tulee paskaa - paitsi kusesta.

Eipä ihme, että "äänekäs oikeistosiipi" vielä yrittää pitää jonkinlaisesta tasosta kiinni. Jos tämä on tilanne, niin minäkin sitten olen oikeistosiipeä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 16.07.2022, 12:29:26
Quote from: Roope on 14.07.2022, 11:09:30
Wokessa ei toimittajan mukaan ole oikeastaan kyse politiikasta vaan ihmisoikeuksista, eikä woke ole sananvapaus- tai muu ongelma, ja jos onkin, vika on sananvapauden käytöllään provosoivien, yhä oikeammalle siirtyneiden konservatiivien, jotka vaarantavat demokratian.

Sama oman agendan politiikan yläpuolelle nostava "kyse ei ole politiikasta vaan oikeudenmukaisuudesta"-argumentti hieman eri näkökulmasta Helsingin Sanomien kulttuuritoimittaja Jussi Ahlrothilta. Woke on Ahlrothille niin luonnollista, että sen kyseenalaistaminen tai edes siihen viittaaminen on paheksuttavaa kovaa kielenkäyttöä, huonoa käytöstä ja tietysti rasismia.

QuoteVähemmistöjen äänet kuuluvat nyt paremmin, mutta samaan aikaan huonoa käytöstä hyväksytään yhä enemmän – Woke-sanasta on tullut lyömä­ase

Kun rakastavan mummon lapsenlapsi kasvaa aikuiseksi, hänen maailmansa ei ehkä ole uhattuna, kun tutuissa tarinoissa onkin erivärisiä ihmisiä, kirjoittaa kulttuuritoimittaja Jussi Ahlroth.

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Kirjoitan woke-sanan hyvin vastentahtoisesti. Se on pelkkä keino sotkea keskustelua, strategista harhaanjohtamista. Se mitä haukutaan wokeksi, on alun perin ollut huomion kiinnittämistä oikeudenmukaisuuden ja tasa-arvon toteutumiseen. Perusasia hyvässä yhteiskunnassa.

Sittemmin siitä on tullut lyömäase ja leima, molemmin puolin. W-sanaa huudetaan Suomessakin. Väite on silloin sama kuin Trasymakhoksen. Et hae oikeudenmukaisuutta, vaan ajat oman ryhmäsi etua.

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Monimutkaisina aikoina toimitaan helposti tunteiden mukaan. On turvallista pitää kiinni siitä, mikä tuntuu yksinkertaiselta. Ne ovat usein tarinoita. Tuttu elokuva, kirja, värittynyt muisto, oma tulkinta maailman menosta. Oikeastaan ainoa, mikä pysyy samana tässä muuttuvassa maailmassa, on kuvitelma. Kaikki mikä on todellista, muuttuu aina ja koko ajan. Jos pysyvyyttä ja turvaa tuonutta kuvitelmaa uhataan, se tuntuu siltä kuin meitä itseämme uhattaisiin.

Pysyvyyden tunteita puolustetaan w-sanan värittämässä vastenmielisessä vastaanotossa, jota esimerkiksi Tähtien sota, Taru sormusten herrasta ja The Sandman -tv-sarjat ovat saaneet. Nämä teokset on jo ennen ilmestymistään tuomittu siksi, että niissä on ei-valkoisia näyttelijöitä. Teoksia syytetään wokeksi. Tämä on tietysti puhdasta rasismia. Mutta se kertoo jostain muustakin. Vanhat tarinat ovat tarjonneet kuvan, joka on yksinkertaisempi kuin todellisuus. Sitä kuvaa ei haluta rikkoa, varsinkaan kun yhteiskunta on monimutkaistunut. Mutta juuri lisääntynyt monimutkaisuus luo paineita kuvan rikkomiseen. Ristiriita on valmis.

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Kun tv-sarjassa on moninaisuutta, w-tyylillä puhuvat sanovat sen olevan tv-sarjan tai elokuvan politisoimista. Alun perin ne kuulemma eivät olleet poliittisia, ja moninaisuudella ajetaan agendaa. Tässä toistuu Trasymakhoksen ajatusvirhe. Lisäksi oletus ei-poliittisesta fiktiosta on huonoa konservatiivista retoriikkaa.

Kovaa kielenkäyttöä ja huonoa käytöstä on alettu hyväksyä entistä enemmän, samaan aikaan, kun vähemmistöjen äänet ovat alkaneet kuulua paremmin. Puhe fantasiasarjoista tai perusoikeuksia koskevasta lainsäädännöstä eivät ole lopulta erillään toisistaan. Politisoimis-retoriikka ei koske vain tv-sarjoja, sillä tehdään ihan oikeaa politiikkaa jo Suomessakin (https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000008932147.html).
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000008946947.html) 16.7.2022
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Rasvari on 16.07.2022, 14:57:19
Quote from: Roope on 16.07.2022, 12:29:26
Quote from: Roope on 14.07.2022, 11:09:30
Wokessa ei toimittajan mukaan ole oikeastaan kyse politiikasta vaan ihmisoikeuksista, eikä woke ole sananvapaus- tai muu ongelma, ja jos onkin, vika on sananvapauden käytöllään provosoivien, yhä oikeammalle siirtyneiden konservatiivien, jotka vaarantavat demokratian.

Sama oman agendan politiikan yläpuolelle nostava "kyse ei ole politiikasta vaan oikeudenmukaisuudesta"-argumentti hieman eri näkökulmasta Helsingin Sanomien kulttuuritoimittaja Jussi Ahlrothilta. Woke on Ahlrothille niin luonnollista, että sen kyseenalaistaminen tai edes siihen viittaaminen on paheksuttavaa kovaa kielenkäyttöä, huonoa käytöstä ja tietysti rasismia.

Sattuipa hiljattain että varsin oudossa paikassa osuin tilaisuuteen jossa kyseinen Ahlroth haastatteli Johanna Vehkoota - sananvapaudesta.

Tilaisuus sai korvien välisen resistanssin lähestymään nollaa ja oikosulku logiikkaprosessorissa oli lähellä. Sananvapaudesta, käytännössä kunnianloukkauksesta, nostetaan samaan aikaan liian kevyesti ja liian raskaasti syytteitä, samoin tuomiot ovat ovat liian keveitä ja raskaita. Poliisikin tutkii aivan vääränlaisia kunnianloukkauksia.

Johanna Vehkoo kertoi että viiden vuoden raskas oikeustaistelu Lokkaa vastaan vei hänen työkykynsä ja mielenterveytensä. Lisäksi korkeimman oikeuden tuomio palautti hänen uskonsa oikeuslaitokseen mutta vain osittain. Jotenkin jäi kuva että ovat moraalisesti kaikkia muita kilometrin ylempänä oikeuslaitoksesta alkaen tavallisesta rahvaasta puhumattakaan ja syvä halveksunta väärinajattelijoita kohtaan oli korkeintaan tahattoman kömpelösti peiteltyä.

Ahlroth ilmoitti ottavansa kysymyksiä vastaan mutta vain jos ne ovat asiallisia, hän sanoi keskeyttävänsä asiattomat kysymykset heti ja perään tiukka katse yleisöön. Yllättäen tulikin vain kivoja komppaavia kysymyksiä mahdollisesti valikoiduilta kysyjiltä. Eipä sillä, ei tuollaisessa ilmanalassa kukaan varmasti tohtisi kysyä kuulemansa perusteella onko kunnianloukkauksen tutkintakynnys liian alhaalla vai ylhäällä tai onko rangaistusasteikko liian kova vai kevyt? Tai tutkiiko poliisi mahdollisesti (vain) vääriä kunnianloukkauksia?

Minusta tuntuu kuitenkin että minua on siunattu. Harvoin on mahdollisuus nähdä silmästä silmään samalla kertaa kahta ihmistä, jotka ovat absoluuttisen oikeassa ja väärässä olevat joutavat olemaan osallistumatta yhteiskunnalliseen keskusteluun. Olen imarreltu.
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Post by: Pentecost on 17.07.2022, 19:27:54
QuoteLisäksi korkeimman oikeuden tuomio palautti hänen uskonsa oikeuslaitokseen mutta vain osittain.

Allekirjoitukseni näissä viesteissä on se tekosyy, millä Vehkoo vapautettiin korkeimmassa oikeudessa vastuusta. Jos joku ei tiedä, niin arvo-arvostelma on hyvin vanhaa perua jo 1800 -luvulta. Omasta mielestäni sitten kaikki kunnianloukkaukset tulisi sallia lausumalla vaikkapa seuraavasti:

- Olen tullut siihen arvo-arvostelman tulokseen, että hän puhuu, näyttää ja vaikuttaa ihan natsilta!

- Jos katsoo häntä arvo-arvostelman läpi, niin hän vaikuttaa ihan huoralta!

Siinäpä teille Korkeimman Oikeuden tapa hyvepuhua...  8)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: IDA on 17.07.2022, 21:18:03
Quote from: Hesari
Kun tv-sarjassa on moninaisuutta, w-tyylillä puhuvat sanovat sen olevan tv-sarjan tai elokuvan politisoimista. Alun perin ne kuulemma eivät olleet poliittisia, ja moninaisuudella ajetaan agendaa. Tässä toistuu Trasymakhoksen ajatusvirhe. Lisäksi oletus ei-poliittisesta fiktiosta on huonoa konservatiivista retoriikkaa

Ei todellakaan ole huonoa, eikä konservatiivista retoriikkaa. Hesarin kulttuuritoimitus nykyisin kai keskittyy viihteellisiin televisiosarjoihin, mutta olisi hyvin helppo esittää useita klassisia, fiktiivisiä teoksia, joissa ei ole mitään poliittista. Toki monet idiootit ajattelevat, että kaikki on poliittista, mutta idioottien ei pidäkään arvioida esteettisesti korkeatasoista kirjallisuutta julkisesti. Sen pitäisi olla ihan muiden hommaa.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tavan on 17.07.2022, 22:23:37
Siinä suhteessa voin olla samaa mieltä noiden kriitikkojen kanssa, että oikeistolaiset todella turhan usein verhoavat kritiikkinsä "epäpoliittisuuden" haikailuun, kun tosiasiassa oikeistolaiset haluaisivat korvata vasemmistoa miellyttävän viestin ja kuvaston oikeistoa miellyttävällä viestillä ja kuvastolla.

On paitsi falskia myös melko munatonta kätkeytyä jonkin näennäisen neutraalisuuden kaapuun.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 01.08.2022, 11:18:20
Mietin, mihin ketjuun kuuluu, mutta woke-ideologiaa tämäkin, kun toimittaja Juho Salminen katsoo kaikin puolin asialliseksi, että mielestään vääränlaiset ajatukset kuten autoilusta tai lihasta nauttiminen vaiennetaan paheksunnan ilmapiirillä. Se on "yhteisön etu".

QuoteAutoilusta nauttiminen on ihmiskunnan kypsyyskoe

KYSYMYS oli hätkähdyttävä. Tapasin ihka elävän ihmisen, joka pohti, kehtaako nykyään sanoa, että pitää – tai suorastaan nauttii – autoilusta.

Moinen epävarmuus kertoo siitä, että tietoisuus autoilun haitoista leviää. Ja huonoja puolia kyllä riittää. Kun bensaa palaa, ilmasto lämpenee. Liikenne tuottaa noin viidenneksen Suomen päästöistä.

Autoilun vähentäminen on varsinkin kaupungeissa monella tapaa järkevää. Mutta tätä keskustelua ei voi käydä vain järjen tasolla – täytyy ymmärtää myös tunteita.

[...]

ENTÄ sitten, on lupa kysyä. Kun haitat ovat kiistattomat, miksi pitäisi välittää joidenkin mielihyvästä, kun yhteisön edut menevät niiden edelle.

Voi ajatella, että tämä on ihmiskunnalle jonkinlainen kypsyyskoe. Meidän pitää oppia käsittelemään sitä, miten puhumme asioista, joista pidämme mutta joiden haitallisuudesta saamme päivä päivältä lisää tietoa. Bensa ja liha ovat näistä hyviä esimerkkejä.

Silti tulevillekin sukupolville lienee tarjolla ajonautintoja. Autoilua ei nimittäin olla kieltämässä, vaikka sellaisiakin tulkintoja kuulee. Ja sähköauto on sähäkkä kiihtymään, sanovat.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000008972439.html) 1.10.2022
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 01.08.2022, 17:55:09
QuoteAutoilusta nauttiminen on ihmiskunnan kypsyyskoe..
Keijo Kaarisade sai taas uuden vakavasti otettavan kilpailijan?
Tai ainakin siltä vaikuttaa, kun nykypäivän kirjoituksien sisällöstä ei voi enää päätellä, mitkä on kirjoitettu "ihan oikeasti olen tätä mieltä.."  ja mitkä ovat täyttä huuhaata, tosin monissa mielipidekirjoituksissa nuo molemmat ovat yhdistyneet "Ihan tosissaan ja vakavasti, minun mielipiteeni on 100% huuhaata".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 02.08.2022, 03:30:39
Joskus menin Hesarin keskustelussa sanomaan tuommoista yhteisön edun vouhottamista kommunismiksi, ja elinikäinen bannihan siitä tuli.

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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.08.2022, 11:13:42
Quote from: https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/vasemmistolainen-kulttuurisota-esittaa-koko-lantisen-historian-rasismin-kauhukabinettina/#d7b5a920
Vasemmistolainen kulttuurisota esittää koko läntisen historian rasismin kauhukabinettina

14.08.2022

Brittiläinen toimittaja-kirjailija Douglas Murray muistuttaa länsimaisen kulttuurin arvokkaista puolista.
...
Yksi harvoista länsimaisten kulttuurin puolustajista on brittiläinen toimittaja-kirjailija Douglas Murray (s. 1979), joka nousi edellisellä The Madness of Crowds -teoksellaan (2019) maailmanmaineeseen. Hänen uusin, tänä keväänä ilmestynyt kirjansa The War on the West on vimmainen aikalaiskritiikki, joka pyrkii osoittamaan nykypäivän länsivastaisuuden silmittömyyden ja samalla puolustamaan eurooppalaisen humanismin perintöä.

Kuten kirjan nimi jo kertoo, Murran mukaan käynnissä on kulttuurisota länsimaisia arvomaailmaa, kulttuuria ja viime kädessä koko elämäntapaa vastaan. Hän vyöryttää luku toisensa perään teoreetikkoja, tutkijoita tai aktivisteja, jotka tasa-arvon ja oikeudenmukaisuuden nimissä ovat valmiita sytyttämään länsimaisen sivilisaation tuleen.

Alussa on luonnollisesti antirasismi. Murray huomauttaa kirjassaan, että nykymaailmassa Ibram X. Kendin ja Robin DiAngelon kaltaiset hahmot ovat tehneet näyttävän ja taloudellisesti kannattavan uran pelkästään syyttämällä valkoihoisia ihmisiä "rakenteellisesta rasismista". Mutta sen lisäksi, että käsite on itsessään epämääräinen, mikään tieteellinen tutkimus ei tue väitteitä sen olemassaolosta.

BLM-mellakoiden vanavedessä Iso-Britannian hallitus valtuutti tohtori Tony Sewellin johtaman komission tutkimaan rodullista eriarvoisuutta maassa. Ryhmä koostui kymmenestä oman alansa huippututkijasta, joista yksi oli valkoihoinen. Maaliskuussa 20221 Sewellin komissio julkaisi muhkean loppuraporttinsa, josta nousi välittömästä äläkkä.

Tutkijat eivät nimittäin löytäneet minkäänlaisia todisteita institutionaalisesta rasismista, vaan heidän mukaansa epätasa-arvoisuutta aiheuttavat rodun sijaan pikemminkin asuinpaikka, köyhyys ja kulttuuriset tekijät. Raportin mukaan myöskään nykypäivän Isossa-Britanniassa ei ole etnisiä vähemmistöjä, joille historiallinen rasismi yhä "kummittelee".

Loput linkistä.
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Post by: JiM on 15.08.2022, 12:07:33
Quote
Beavis and Butt-Head do 'White Privilege.'

https://gab.com/KeepNHGranite/posts/108538494072887236
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 16.08.2022, 16:57:29
Brittiläinen imperiumi lakkautti orjuuden 1833
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833

Toivottavasti Ukrainan sota saa yleisen mielipiteen kääntymään wokea ja wokevasemmistoa vastaan. Mitä pitempään sota kestää, luulisi että sitä todennäköisempää se on. Mutta media ja yliopistot ovat paksussa kuplassa joten sinne se tulee vihoviimeisenä, jos ollenkaan.

@Lalli IsoTalo sanoi että politiikka on median alavirta, eikä niinkään kulttuurin. Media kun luo kulttuurin. Mutta kuka/ketkä luo/luovat median/mediat? Onko se yliopistot kun mediavaikuttajat ovat usein valmistuneet niistä? Ovatko yliopistot niitä perimmäisiä paikkoja? Sitten voi kysyä kuka luo ne mitä yliopistossa tutkitaan ja opetetaan, ja keitä siellä on töissä ja opiskelemassa. Meneekö tämä muna vai kana-arvailuksi?

Jos haluaa vaikuttaa politiikkaan, pitäisikö siis vaikuttaa ensin mediaan ja vasta sitten kulttuuriin? Tarkoittaako tämä tunkeutumista valtamedioihin, valtamedioiden haluttunottoa esim. osakeomistuksilla, tai sitten taloudellisten panostusten ohjaamista omiin medioihin? Jos valtamedioissa ei saa omaa ääntä sellaisenaan kuuluville, onko parempi luovuttaa sen suhteen ja panostaa omiin medioihin? Pitäisikö persuilla olla joku Silvio Berlusconin tapainen miljardööri jolla oli oma media tukena (onko edelleen?), kun tiesi että valtamedia on vastustajan puolella?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.08.2022, 17:36:45
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 16.08.2022, 16:57:29
@Lalli IsoTalo sanoi että politiikka on median alavirta, eikä niinkään kulttuurin. Media kun luo kulttuurin. Mutta kuka/ketkä luo/luovat median/mediat? Onko se yliopistot kun mediavaikuttajat ovat usein valmistuneet niistä? Ovatko yliopistot niitä perimmäisiä paikkoja? Sitten voi kysyä kuka luo ne mitä yliopistossa tutkitaan ja opetetaan, ja keitä siellä on töissä ja opiskelemassa.

Olen hiukkasen funtsinut asiaa, enkä vähiten sinun ansiostasi. Vastaus on liitetiedostossa. Voi olla, että jos perustan tätä varten joskus ketjun. Mietin asiaa aika monta päivää, ja nukuin aika monta yötä yli. Tässä on nyt ensimmäinen versio.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.08.2022, 09:40:22
Rasismilla rasismia vastaan, kyllä se siitä!

Quote from: https://twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1561775180489408512We will never defeat racism until people of colour have their own spaces away from whites.

I suggest we start with schools, restaurants, buses and drinking fountains.
[tweet]1561775180489408512[/tweet]
Quote from: https://nypost.com/2022/08/19/off-campus-uc-berkeley-housing-bans-white-people-from-common-areas/An off-campus housing co-op for University of California, Berkeley students bans white people from entering common spaces to "avoid white violence" — sparking criticism that the policy inflames racial tensions.

The five-story, 30-room "Person of Color Theme House" near the school requires students to declare their race when signing in and to announce when they're bringing white guests in to the building, according to house rules leaked on Reddit.com.

"Many POC moved here to be able to avoid white violence and presence, so respect their decision of avoidance if you bring white guests," the rules declare. "White guests are not allowed in common spaces."

The building, which houses up to 56 students a few blocks from the university,  also urges students to avoid bringing family members that "express bigotry," according to the College Fix.

"Queer, Black, and Indigenous members should not have to avoid common spaces because of homophobic or racist parents/family members," the rules state.
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Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 24.08.2022, 00:01:47
Tommoinen on aivan järkyttävää settiä. Eikö kaikenväriset olekaan ystäviä uudessa maailmassa?

Voi vaan kuvitella miten punaniskat reagoi, mahtaako tulla kaapuja?

Tämmöiset uutiset vain vahventaa uskoa että "Helter Skelter" voi oikeasti olla kohta totta. Siinä ei maailma muutu paremmaksi.

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Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 24.08.2022, 01:29:11
Kerroin tästä myös kaverille Arizonassa. Liberaali, valkoinen, juutalainen vanhempi setä. Sanoin että tän saattaa tulkita tietyt tahot siellä aika vahvasti.
Ensin tulee että ei nää trendit missään näy. Siihen sanoin että sota ei ala trendeistä vaan yksittäisistä laukauksista. Hiljaisuus.

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Post by: Roope on 24.08.2022, 17:20:39
QuoteRobottiräppärin sopimus katkaistiin, koska tekoälyn luomaa hahmoa pidettiin loukkaavana

CAPITOL Music Group on lopettanut yhteistyönsä virtuaaliräppäri FN Mekan kanssa. Musiikkiyhtiö julkaisi tiistaina tiedotteen, jossa se pyysi anteeksi osallisuuttaan projektiin.

Asiasta kertoo muun muassa The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/arts/music/fn-meka-dropped-capitol-records.html).

Hahmon mainostettiin olevan ensimmäinen lisättyyn todellisuuteen luotu räppäri. Sen sanoitukset ja musiikki ovat tekoälyn luomia, mutta äänenä toimii ihminen.

Virtuaalimuusikoihin keskittyvä Factory New -yhtiö keräsi hahmoon pohjadatan videopeleistä ja sosiaalisesta mediasta. Yhtiö on luonut myös kryptovaluuttaräppäri Lil Bitcoinin.

FN MEKA julkaisi ensimmäisen singlensä Florida Waterin 12. elokuuta. Kappaleella räpätään sormiseksistä ja asusteiden kalleudesta.

Trap-tyylinen single sai aikaan vastalauseiden ryöpyn. Hahmon syytettiin olevan esimerkki "digitaalisesta blackfacesta", vaaleaihoisesta värjäämässä kasvonsa tummaksi.

FN Mekan nimissä julkaistun videomateriaalin on syytetty käyttävän kevyesti kuvastoa poliisiväkivallasta ja vankeudesta. Hahmosta on julkaistu kuva, jossa poliisi hakkaa sitä vankilassa.

"Pyydämme syvästi anteeksi mustalta yhteisöltä ymmärtämättömyyttämme allekirjoittaa levytysopimus tämän projektin kanssa", yhtiö kirjoitti tiedotteessaan.

Yhtiö kertoo, että sen olisi pitänyt kysyä enemmän "kysymyksiä oikeudenmukaisuudesta ja luovasta prosessista sen takana".

MUSIIKKITEOLLISUUDEN toimia tarkkaileva aktivistijärjestö Industry Blackout vaati anteeksipyyntöä aiemmin tiistaina. He nimittivät artistia suoraksi loukkaukseksi mustaa yhteisöä kohtaan. Järjestö syytti FN Mekaa siitä, että se käyttää mustaa kulttuuria matkivia eleitä ja loukkaavia ilmauksia.

[...]

Siitä on luotu kliseinen räppärihahmo, joka esittelee korujaan, voimannostokykyään ja autojaan videopätkillä. Kasvotatuoidun ja vihreärastaisen hahmon kerrotaan olevan robotti, jolla ei ole ystäviä.

FN Mekan runsaan 220 000 seuraajan tili Instagramissa on muutettu yksityiseksi.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000009025340.html) 24.8.2022

Mutta kliseinen musta räppäri tekemässä täsmälleen samaa ei ole loukkaus mustaa yhteisöä kohtaan?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 29.08.2022, 01:41:19
Helsinki ryhtyy järjestämään jo 12-vuotiaille koululaisille "sateenkaarityöpajoja". Kun 12-vuotiaiden "LGBTQ+-seminaareja" perustellaan "asiallisella tiedolla" ja "lasten edulla", arvaan sisällöksi Setan agendan ja poliittisten näkemysten ajamisen.

e: Googlaamisen mukaan arvasin oikein. Kyseessä ei ole normaali kouluopetus, vaan Helsingin kaupunki maksaa Setalle (https://omastadi.hel.fi/processes/osbu-2020/f/184/plans/708), jotta sen edustajat tulevat kouluihin luennoimaan lapsille propagandaansa "asiantuntijoina".

QuoteHomottelu suututti 16-vuotiaan Juno Keijupuron – lohtua tuo, että nyt Helsinki aloittaa sateenkaarityöpajat kaikille kuutosluokasta lähtien

[...]

Mikä OmaStadi-äänestys ja mikä LGBTQ+-paja?
- OmaStadi-äänestyksessä helsinkiläiset saavat äänestää kaupunkilaisten itsensä tekemistä ehdotuksista toteutettavaksi ideoita
- Niiden toteuttamiseen Helsingin kaupunki on varannut lähes yhdeksän miljoonaa euroa niin sanottua osallistuvaa budjettia
- Nuorten ehdotus sukupuolista ja seksuaalista moninaisuutta käsittelevistä työpajoista kouluissa äänestettiin toteutettavaksi
- Kaupunki on varannut LGBTQ+-työpajoihin noin 100 000 euroa
- Nuoret ja järjestöjä otetaan mukaan suunnitteluun ja toteutukseen
- Sateenkaaripajat järjestetään kaikille 6.–9.-luokkalaisille koulupäivän aikana
- Myös opetussuunnitelma edellyttää sukupuoli- ja seksuaalivähemmistöjen yhdenvertaisuutta
- Osa vanhemmista on kyseenalaistanut sukupuoli- ja seksuaalivähemmistöistä puhumisen kouluissa, koska ovat pelänneet tietojen hämmentävän nuoria
- YK:n ja Euroopan neuvoston mukaan lapsilla ja nuorilla on oikeus ajantasaiseen ja asialliseen tietoon seksuaalisesta suuntautumisesta ja sukupuolen moninaisuudesta
- YK:n mukaan ei ole olemassa näyttöä, jonka mukaan asiallinen tieto seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöistä vaikuttaisi haitallisesti lapsiin, vaan asiallinen tieto on lapsen edun mukaista
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12582457) 28.8.2022

Sukupuolivalistus on sinänsä perusteltua, mutta nythän ei olekaan kyse siitä, sillä Seta on poliittinen toimija, jota ei pitäisi päästää kouluihin haastamatta.

Ei sen puoleen, käsittääkseni koulut tukevat nykyään vastaavia propagandavierailuja myös esimerkiksi elokapinalaisilta ja pakolaisaktivisteilta, ja vanhemmat voivat vain katsoa voimattomina vierestä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: KTM on 29.08.2022, 10:14:08
Quote from: Roope on 29.08.2022, 01:41:19
Helsinki ryhtyy järjestämään jo 12-vuotiaille koululaisille "sateenkaarityöpajoja". Kun 12-vuotiaiden "LGBTQ+-seminaareja" perustellaan "asiallisella tiedolla" ja "lasten edulla", arvaan sisällöksi Setan agendan ja poliittisten näkemysten ajamisen.

e: Googlaamisen mukaan arvasin oikein. Kyseessä ei ole normaali kouluopetus, vaan Helsingin kaupunki maksaa Setalle (https://omastadi.hel.fi/processes/osbu-2020/f/184/plans/708), jotta sen edustajat tulevat kouluihin luennoimaan lapsille propagandaansa "asiantuntijoina".

Mietinkin, että siinä tulee jollekin täysjärkiselle opettajalle kiva nakki kun määrätään pitämään näitä "sateenkaaripajoja". Kouluissa kun ei aina saa itse valita mitä opettaa, vaan joka kurssille on löydettävä joku pitäjä.

Voisi olla täysjärkiselle opettajalle melkoisen mahdotonta pitää noita pelleilytilaisuuksia naama pokkana. Itse en ainakaan pystyisi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: futaaja on 29.08.2022, 10:28:21
Quote from: Roope on 29.08.2022, 01:41:19
Helsinki ryhtyy järjestämään jo 12-vuotiaille koululaisille "sateenkaarityöpajoja". Kun 12-vuotiaiden "LGBTQ+-seminaareja" perustellaan "asiallisella tiedolla" ja "lasten edulla", arvaan sisällöksi Setan agendan ja poliittisten näkemysten ajamisen.

e: Googlaamisen mukaan arvasin oikein. Kyseessä ei ole normaali kouluopetus, vaan Helsingin kaupunki maksaa Setalle (https://omastadi.hel.fi/processes/osbu-2020/f/184/plans/708), jotta sen edustajat tulevat kouluihin luennoimaan lapsille propagandaansa "asiantuntijoina".

QuoteHomottelu suututti 16-vuotiaan Juno Keijupuron – lohtua tuo, että nyt Helsinki aloittaa sateenkaarityöpajat kaikille kuutosluokasta lähtien

[...]

Mikä OmaStadi-äänestys ja mikä LGBTQ+-paja?
- OmaStadi-äänestyksessä helsinkiläiset saavat äänestää kaupunkilaisten itsensä tekemistä ehdotuksista toteutettavaksi ideoita
- Niiden toteuttamiseen Helsingin kaupunki on varannut lähes yhdeksän miljoonaa euroa niin sanottua osallistuvaa budjettia
- Nuorten ehdotus sukupuolista ja seksuaalista moninaisuutta käsittelevistä työpajoista kouluissa äänestettiin toteutettavaksi
- Kaupunki on varannut LGBTQ+-työpajoihin noin 100 000 euroa
- Nuoret ja järjestöjä otetaan mukaan suunnitteluun ja toteutukseen
- Sateenkaaripajat järjestetään kaikille 6.–9.-luokkalaisille koulupäivän aikana
- Myös opetussuunnitelma edellyttää sukupuoli- ja seksuaalivähemmistöjen yhdenvertaisuutta
- Osa vanhemmista on kyseenalaistanut sukupuoli- ja seksuaalivähemmistöistä puhumisen kouluissa, koska ovat pelänneet tietojen hämmentävän nuoria
- YK:n ja Euroopan neuvoston mukaan lapsilla ja nuorilla on oikeus ajantasaiseen ja asialliseen tietoon seksuaalisesta suuntautumisesta ja sukupuolen moninaisuudesta
- YK:n mukaan ei ole olemassa näyttöä, jonka mukaan asiallinen tieto seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöistä vaikuttaisi haitallisesti lapsiin, vaan asiallinen tieto on lapsen edun mukaista
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12582457) 28.8.2022

Sukupuolivalistus on sinänsä perusteltua, mutta nythän ei olekaan kyse siitä, sillä Seta on poliittinen toimija, jota ei pitäisi päästää kouluihin haastamatta.

Ei sen puoleen, käsittääkseni koulut tukevat nykyään vastaavia propagandavierailuja myös esimerkiksi elokapinalaisilta ja pakolaisaktivisteilta, ja vanhemmat voivat vain katsoa voimattomina vierestä.

Onneksi tuli muutettua pois pääkaupunkiseudulta jo ennen ensimmäisen lapsen syntymää. Täälläpäin ei vastaavaa hullutusta ole (ainakaan vielä) näkyvissä ja koulun mamuosio koostuu muutamasta virolaisesta ja thaimaasta tulleesta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 29.08.2022, 12:07:55
En oikein tiedä itkeäkö vai nauraa, mutta valkoisella äänellä poistetaan puhelinmyyjien kokemaa rasismia...  :facepalm:

QuoteTodellisuus on kuitenkin tarua ihmeellisempää. Viime viikolla SFGate, San Franciscon alueen uutissivusto, kertoi Sanas-nimisestä startupista, jonka tuote on kärjistetysti amerikkalainen ääni, ja etenkin valkoinen sellainen.

Vuonna 2020 perustettu startup on kerännyt kaikkiaan rahoitusta 37,5 miljoonan euron edestä, mistä 32 miljoonaa on kesäkuulta.

Kuten monen muunkin startupin, Sanasin päämäärä on tehdä maailmasta vähän parempi paikka. Tarkemmin ottaen tavoitteena on vähentää puhelinkeskusten työntekijöiden kokemaa rasismia.

https://www.kauppalehti.fi/uutiset/valkoinen-aani-ei-jaanytkaan-elokuvan-satiiriksi/49537e45-709b-441b-b8f1-fa83ffc909f8

Mielenkiintoista on sitten kuulla, miten valkoinen ääni korjaa vaikkapa intialaisten puhevikoja, kielioppivirheitä ja muuta sönkkäystä, kun nuo ovat häirinneet enemmän kuin se, että puhuvat intialaisittain.

Kaikenmaailman roskasoittoja tulee muutenkin aivan tarpeeksi. Suomenkieli suojaa tosin useimmilta kuin jos olisi syntynyt vaikkapa englantilaiseksi. Minä lyön luurin yleensä korvaan, kun en jaksa kuunnella tiedustelua vaikkapa siitä, että onko it -vastaavanne paikalla kun palvelussa ja salasanoissa on jotain häikkää kuulemma...
(yksinyrittäjä kun olen).  :roll:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tuomas3 on 29.08.2022, 18:46:59
Quote from: Roope on 29.08.2022, 01:41:19
Helsinki ryhtyy järjestämään jo 12-vuotiaille koululaisille "sateenkaarityöpajoja". Kun 12-vuotiaiden "LGBTQ+-seminaareja" perustellaan "asiallisella tiedolla" ja "lasten edulla", arvaan sisällöksi Setan agendan ja poliittisten näkemysten ajamisen.

e: Googlaamisen mukaan arvasin oikein. Kyseessä ei ole normaali kouluopetus, vaan Helsingin kaupunki maksaa Setalle (https://omastadi.hel.fi/processes/osbu-2020/f/184/plans/708), jotta sen edustajat tulevat kouluihin luennoimaan lapsille propagandaansa "asiantuntijoina".

QuoteHomottelu suututti 16-vuotiaan Juno Keijupuron – lohtua tuo, että nyt Helsinki aloittaa sateenkaarityöpajat kaikille kuutosluokasta lähtien

[...]

Mikä OmaStadi-äänestys ja mikä LGBTQ+-paja?
- OmaStadi-äänestyksessä helsinkiläiset saavat äänestää kaupunkilaisten itsensä tekemistä ehdotuksista toteutettavaksi ideoita
- Niiden toteuttamiseen Helsingin kaupunki on varannut lähes yhdeksän miljoonaa euroa niin sanottua osallistuvaa budjettia
- Nuorten ehdotus sukupuolista ja seksuaalista moninaisuutta käsittelevistä työpajoista kouluissa äänestettiin toteutettavaksi
- Kaupunki on varannut LGBTQ+-työpajoihin noin 100 000 euroa
- Nuoret ja järjestöjä otetaan mukaan suunnitteluun ja toteutukseen
- Sateenkaaripajat järjestetään kaikille 6.–9.-luokkalaisille koulupäivän aikana
- Myös opetussuunnitelma edellyttää sukupuoli- ja seksuaalivähemmistöjen yhdenvertaisuutta
- Osa vanhemmista on kyseenalaistanut sukupuoli- ja seksuaalivähemmistöistä puhumisen kouluissa, koska ovat pelänneet tietojen hämmentävän nuoria
- YK:n ja Euroopan neuvoston mukaan lapsilla ja nuorilla on oikeus ajantasaiseen ja asialliseen tietoon seksuaalisesta suuntautumisesta ja sukupuolen moninaisuudesta
- YK:n mukaan ei ole olemassa näyttöä, jonka mukaan asiallinen tieto seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöistä vaikuttaisi haitallisesti lapsiin, vaan asiallinen tieto on lapsen edun mukaista
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12582457) 28.8.2022

Sukupuolivalistus on sinänsä perusteltua, mutta nythän ei olekaan kyse siitä, sillä Seta on poliittinen toimija, jota ei pitäisi päästää kouluihin haastamatta.

Ei sen puoleen, käsittääkseni koulut tukevat nykyään vastaavia propagandavierailuja myös esimerkiksi elokapinalaisilta ja pakolaisaktivisteilta, ja vanhemmat voivat vain katsoa voimattomina vierestä.
Kenenkään oppilaan ei tarvitse katsoa voimattomana vierestä. Koulun tehtävä on opettaa ilman tunnustuksellisuutta. Se, onko asia tunnustuksellinen, voidaan testata vastakritiikillä. Tunnustukselliset asiat ovat absoluuttisia ja nk pyhää, joita ei saa loukata ja joista joku loukkaantuu. Jos koulussa kerrotaan jostain asiasta, niin kaikilla oppilailla on mielipiteenvapaus kertoa oma jyrkkäkin näkökulma. Sikäli kouluihin ei kannata viedä mitään sellaista asiaa, mitä ei saisi esim. pilkata, arvostella, kritisoida.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 14.09.2022, 16:42:23
Nyt maailmalla leviää tällainen pakotettu diversity statements -julistusten tekeminen esimerkiksi työpaikkaa tai opiskelupaikkaa hakevilta. Näissä julistuksissa pitää käytännössä riittävän vahvasti vakuuttaa olevansa aktiivisesti woke-henkinen ja/tai johonkin vähemmistöryhmiin kuuluva.

Who Cares About Diversity? - by Michael Huemer
https://fakenous.substack.com/p/who-cares-about-diversity

QuoteAll across the Academy, schools are requiring "Diversity Statements" as a condition for new hires. Everyone has to submit a statement explaining how they are going to contribute to "diversity". What you're supposed to do in these, and what everyone damn well knows you're supposed to do, is (i) talk about your race, gender, and other "identity group" traits that it would be illegal for the university to explicitly ask you about, and (ii) talk about your activism on behalf of left-wing identity politics. Note: If you write a statement merely explaining how you will scrupulously avoid discriminating, or explaining how you will contribute to intellectual diversity, your application will be tossed in the trash. No university will say this out loud (yet?), but, again, everyone knows that.

These Diversity Statements, as a recent commentator notes, are the secular version of the Statements of Faith long used by religious schools (www.insidehighered.com/views/2022/05/23/diversity-statements-are-new-faith-statements-opinion).
...
The diversity-based argument for affirmative action is this:

People of different races (& other 'identity groups') have different ideas, attitudes, and experiences. Therefore, by diversifying the racial composition of the student body, we will be indirectly producing intellectual diversity.

On the surface, that's a possible explanation of how people who really value intellectual diversity would come to support some form of affirmative action.

But that's just on the surface. If you stop and think for a second about exactly what such people would support, it totally fails to match what the universities are doing.
...
If the rationale for affirmative action were as described, the first thing we'd expect is that, obviously, the strongest candidates for affirmative action would be people with diverse belief systems. In the academy, left-wing beliefs dominate; therefore, the affirmative action supporters would be first and foremost demanding preferences for conservatives, libertarians, moderates, fascists, monarchists, and other people who do not accept the current progressive orthodoxy.

Everyone knows that isn't happening. Virtually none (maybe actually zero) of the woke, social-justice-warrior people support philosophical diversity. The most "woke" people are the ones who aggressively try to silence all dissent (https://fakenous.net/?p=2932) and to exclude conservatives, libertarians, etc., from the Academy. So they not only fail to value intellectual diversity; they are just about the most stridently anti-diversity people in the entire country.

Kommentteja tuohon:

Who cares about diversity?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32812884

QuoteI recently watched an interesting discussion on the legality of diversity statement requirements. [1] There's a lot of nuance here, and the two speakers have different opinions on the matter.
One believes that diversity statement requirements can be done properly and we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater by banning diversity statement requirements.

The other speaker suggests these are analogous to requirements that a candidate talk about how they support the government's ongoing war effort, and catalog all they have done in furtherance of it.

https://reason.com/volokh/2022/08/30/do-university-diversity-statement-requirements-violate-the-constitution/
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I've seen it for a university position in Sweden. It has a self-criticism and cult like feel that I really don't like. Position in universities should be considered on scientific and educational grounds, not political.
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I can't answer on stats, would also like to know. I've read Berkeley requires these for all faculty openings and promotions.
Also below is a particularly egregious example from Canada, where it explicitly states white straight men need not apply.

https://www.universityaffairs.ca/search-job/?job_id=58317
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My wife just started a tenure track job in the sciences. This was the very first thing she had to provide in nearly every application.
...
Seems to be fairly widespread and growing rapidly.[1] "68 percent of job ads in the fall of 2020 mentioned diversity, and 19 percent required a separate diversity statement. That number requiring diversity statements is even higher for elite schools and tenure-track jobs. Certain fields are more likely to require diversity statements than others, with political science being the most likely among fields included in the survey."

[1] https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2022/05/23/diversity-statements-are-new-faith-statements-opinion#:~:text=Last%20fall%20the%20American%20Enterprise,required%20a%20separate%20diversity%20statement
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I think these institutions believe that more diversity ----> more inclusivity and less racism. How would a racist indian national deeply entrenched in caste culture help my company be less racist? How would an asian supremacist laotian increase the workplace's acceptance?
...
For an example of this, see this story about Canadian professor and laser scientist Patanjali Kambhampati who was denied for grants because his avowed commitment to mere non-discrimination and merit-based hiring was deemed insufficient.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/minority-professor-denied-grants-because-he-hires-on-merit-people-are-afraid-to-think
...
"As the senior assistant director of admissions at Yale recently observed, "for those students who come to Yale, we expect them to be versed in issues of social justice. We encourage them to be vocal when they see an opportunity for change in our institution and in the world." Picture yourself as an eager high schooler reading these words, and then jotting down notes. You absorb, assuming you hadn't already, what it takes to make your way in contemporary elite America. And as you grow older, you lean into the rhetorical gambits that served you so well in the past. You might even build a worldview out of them."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/08/the-utility-of-white-bashing/566846/
...
As someone currently helping my son fill out college applications, I find this article 100% on point. For one public college, there are only two essay questions and they both deal with diversity. How does a white middle class male answer? He has an incredible fascination with weather and wants to pursue that as a major. Does he emphasize this aspect since it sets him apart from other applicants. Logically, that would be the right choice. But we know the university really is filtering out people like my son, so we will probably talk about his ancestor's immigration story and how that has affected his worldview, blah, blah blah.
...
> How does a white middle class male answer?

Someone close to me hired a writer to pen a woke entrance essay for their son. This was after a guidance counselor warned that "people like him" are having a hard time getting into medical school right now. We can't say if it worked or not, but he did get in.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.09.2022, 18:20:21
https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1573941089664438273/photo/1
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 25.09.2022, 18:51:23
Tämä ei vaikuta olevan (onneksi) vielä mikään iso ilmiö, mutta mitä ilmeisimmin täysin vakavissaan tehty: joku koulukuraattorina/opona tms. toimiva bloggaaja ehdottaa kouluista safe spacea ihmisille, jotka identifioituvat furry- tms. -hahmoiksi.

http://forhighschoolcounselors.blogspot.com/2018/02/making-safe-place-for-students-who.html

QuoteNow that we have some minuscule understanding of what it means to self identify as a "furry", "therian", "otherkin", what can school counselors do to support these students?
...
6.  If you feel uncomfortable, refer but pursue additional training and supervision.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 26.09.2022, 12:41:33
Suomen Uutisissa on pitkähkö artikkeli wokelluksen kokemista ongelmista:
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/uudet-tuulet-puhaltavat-yhdysvalloissa-ennen-megabisnekset-wokettivat-innokkaasti-nyt-woke-kritiikki-alkaa-lyomaan-voimalla-lapi/ (https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/uudet-tuulet-puhaltavat-yhdysvalloissa-ennen-megabisnekset-wokettivat-innokkaasti-nyt-woke-kritiikki-alkaa-lyomaan-voimalla-lapi/)

QuoteKritiikki woke-kapitalismia kohtaan on yltynyt niin voimakkaaksi, että siitä on tullut yksi marraskuussa järjestettävien Yhdysvaltain kongressin välivaalien polttavista teemoista. Woke-kapitalismilla viitataan yritysmaailman ja uusvasemmiston epäpyhään liittoon. Se näkyy mm. korporaatioiden moraaliposeerauksena ja poliittisena brändäämisenä, yritysjohtajien aktivismina, uusvasemmistolaisten agendojen omaksumisena ja niiden myötäilynä. Jos ilmiön saattoi aiemmin kuitata oikeistolaisena pelotteluna ja liioitteluna, vuonna 2022 ilmiö on niin ilmiselvä ja suuri, että valtamediatkin ovat ottaneet sen vakavasti. Sekä yritysjohtajien että poliitikkojen keskuudessa on vähitellen havahduttu ilmiön kielteisiin kääntöpuoliin. Vastavetona woke-kapitalismille Floridan osavaltio sääti lain, joka asettaa veronmaksajien ja eläkkeensaajien edut julkisissa investoinneissa ideologisen puuhastelun edelle. Finanssijätti JPMorgan Chasen toimitusjohtaja Jamie Dimon puolestaan ilmoitti tarjoavansa yhä rahoitusta perinteisille energiamuodoille, vastoin vasemmistopoliitikkojen toiveita.

Yhdysvaltalainen mediajätti CNBC uutisoi torstaina, että "woke-kapitalismi" on noussut marraskuussa käytävien kongressin välivaalien polttavaksi teemaksi. Woke-kapitalismilla viitataan liike-elämän politisoitumiseen, sen vasemmistokytköksiin ja kasvavaan rooliin polarisoivassa kulttuurisodassa.

Aiemmin marginaalinen ja oikeistolaisten suosima uudissana on valtavirtaistunut länsimaisissa medioissa kuluneen vuoden aikana. Woke-kapitalismi on jo liian suuri aihe sivuutettaviksi. CNBC:n talousuutisten ankkuri Ylan Mui kuvasi, että woke-kapitalismin määritelmästä ja merkityksistä kiistellään nyt ankarasti republikaanien ja demokraattien välillä...

... Loput linkistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.09.2022, 15:18:34
Quote from: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/america-military-our-country-wont-survive-if-wokeism-continues-ruleSeptember 28, 2022 2:00am EDT
America's military and our country won't survive if wokeism continues to rule

Wokeism asserts power at Air Force Academy where they aren't even supposed to say 'Mom and Dad

...  we must do everything we can to stop the spread of wokeness throughout our armed forces and put a stop to it. Under the Biden administration, warfighting doctrines are being replaced – even at the training level – with doctrines of diversity, equity and inclusion

This sickness has most recently taken hold in the Air Force. As Fox News reported, the United States Air Force Academy – the sister university to my alma mater of West Point – has created a fellowship program that excludes men who are biological males – only women and transgendered need apply
...
This smut is nothing more than repackaged Marxist dogma, an ideology that proposes race, gender, and other arbitrary characteristics must determine relationships between people, even between soldiers. It proposes racism is, supposedly, still concealed within the fabric of America's military institutions. Even our Marxists foes reject this dogma for the sake of their own military readiness. .

Loput linkistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.10.2022, 21:09:33
Iltalehdeltä pohjanoteeraus. Vai olisiko keijotus?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.10.2022, 21:22:43
Quote from: https://www.xxlmag.com/kanye-west-black-lives-matter-movement-over/Kanye West Says Black Lives Matter Movement Is Over, Implies He Ended It
Published: October 4, 2022

Read More: Kanye West Says Black Lives Matter Movement Is Over - XXL | https://www.xxlmag.com/kanye-west-black-lives-matter-movement-over/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tomatoface on 04.10.2022, 21:29:34
Suvakeilla nyrjähtää se toinen aivosolu kun miettivät miten tähän pitää reagoida :roll:

Rasimia - ei rasismia - rasimia - ei rasismia...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 05.10.2022, 16:11:40
Candace Owens kertoo kanavallaan tuosta White lives matter-paidan pitämisestä.
https://youtu.be/7FZLbNASTKY
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 07.10.2022, 14:57:00
Quote from: Skeptikko on 14.09.2022, 16:42:23
Nyt maailmalla leviää tällainen pakotettu diversity statements -julistusten tekeminen esimerkiksi työpaikkaa tai opiskelupaikkaa hakevilta. Näissä julistuksissa pitää käytännössä riittävän vahvasti vakuuttaa olevansa aktiivisesti woke-henkinen ja/tai johonkin vähemmistöryhmiin kuuluva.

Department of Energy requires plans to promote diversity from grant applicants
https://www.science.org/content/article/department-energy-requires-plans-promote-diversity-grant-applicants

QuoteResearchers seeking funding from the United States's single biggest funder of the physical sciences will now have to think about how they can structure their own efforts to promote greater participation by researchers and students of color and from other underrepresented groups.

This week, the Department of Energy's (DOE's) Office of Science, which has an annual budget of $7.5 billion, announced on its website (https://science.osti.gov/grants/Applicant-and-Awardee-Resources/PIER-Plans) that researchers responding to funding opportunities, including those at the office's 10 national laboratories, must include a Promoting Inclusive and Equitable Research (PIER) Plan in their application. It "should describe the activities and strategies of the applicant to promote equity and inclusion as an intrinsic element to advancing scientific excellence in the research project." The plan cannot merely restate university or institutional policy and will be evaluated as part of the application's merit review.
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The new requirement is just one part of a broader effort by the Office of Science under President Joe Biden's administration to improve diversity, equity, and inclusion both within the organization and within the communities it serves. For example, the office's Reaching a New Energy Sciences Workforce program aims to fund work at institutions historically underrepresented in its research portfolio, such as minority-serving institutions. With the new requirements for grants, the Office of Science is now challenging DOE-funded researchers to make their own contributions to the effort, Asmeret Asefaw Berhe, director of the Office of Science, explains in a statement on the agency's website (https://www.energy.gov/science/articles/everyone-has-role-play-making-science-more-equitable-and-inclusive).
...
Historically, the fields DOE supports are among the least diverse in science. For example, in the United States between 1999 and 2020, Black people earned just 0.5% of Ph.D.s in physics (https://www.science.org/content/article/why-are-efforts-to-boost-small-number-of-black-us-physicists-failing). The new requirement puts DOE more in line with the National Science Foundation, which has long required grant applicants to provide a statement of the broader impacts their research will have, notes Mason, who has funding from both agencies.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 11.10.2022, 15:40:47
QuoteTelevisio-ohjelmille jaettava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu sukupuolineutraaliksi

Televisio-ohjelmille jattava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu. Jatkossa ei enää jaeta vuoden mies- ja naisnäyttelijän palkintoa. Tästä lähtien palkitaan vuoden pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijän palkinnot. Päätös pohjaa yhteiskunnalliseen muutokseen.

– Koimme, että pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijäpalkinnot ovat oikea ja tuttu tapa palkita ansioituneita näyttelijöitä, perustelee Televisioakatemian puheenjohtaja Antti Väisänen tiedotteessa.
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12655930) 11.10.2022

Kiinnostaisi, mikä ihan tarkalleen ottaen on se Väisäsen tarkoittama "yhteiskunnallinen muutos", joka on johtanut päätökseen, kun siitä ei kerrota uutisessa sanallakaan.

Onko se ehkä jotain niin noloa, että siitä ollaan mieluummin hiljaa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 11.10.2022, 16:03:05
Quote from: Roope on 11.10.2022, 15:40:47
QuoteTelevisio-ohjelmille jaettava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu sukupuolineutraaliksi

Televisio-ohjelmille jattava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu. Jatkossa ei enää jaeta vuoden mies- ja naisnäyttelijän palkintoa. Tästä lähtien palkitaan vuoden pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijän palkinnot. Päätös pohjaa yhteiskunnalliseen muutokseen.

– Koimme, että pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijäpalkinnot ovat oikea ja tuttu tapa palkita ansioituneita näyttelijöitä, perustelee Televisioakatemian puheenjohtaja Antti Väisänen tiedotteessa.
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12655930) 11.10.2022

Kiinnostaisi, mikä ihan tarkalleen ottaen on se Väisäsen tarkoittama "yhteiskunnallinen muutos", joka on johtanut päätökseen, kun siitä ei kerrota uutisessa sanallakaan.

Onko se ehkä jotain niin noloa, että siitä ollaan mieluummin hiljaa?

Auta armias, jos sivuosapalkitut tulevat olemaan naisia‼️ 😫
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 11.10.2022, 19:02:36
Quote from: Emo on 11.10.2022, 16:03:05
Quote from: Roope on 11.10.2022, 15:40:47
QuoteTelevisio-ohjelmille jaettava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu sukupuolineutraaliksi

Televisio-ohjelmille jattava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu. Jatkossa ei enää jaeta vuoden mies- ja naisnäyttelijän palkintoa. Tästä lähtien palkitaan vuoden pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijän palkinnot. Päätös pohjaa yhteiskunnalliseen muutokseen.

– Koimme, että pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijäpalkinnot ovat oikea ja tuttu tapa palkita ansioituneita näyttelijöitä, perustelee Televisioakatemian puheenjohtaja Antti Väisänen tiedotteessa.
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12655930) 11.10.2022

Kiinnostaisi, mikä ihan tarkalleen ottaen on se Väisäsen tarkoittama "yhteiskunnallinen muutos", joka on johtanut päätökseen, kun siitä ei kerrota uutisessa sanallakaan.

Onko se ehkä jotain niin noloa, että siitä ollaan mieluummin hiljaa?

Auta armias, jos sivuosapalkitut tulevat olemaan naisia‼️ 😫

Auta armias, jos palkituissa ei ole "muu"-sukupuolisia ja muuta sateenkaariväkeä...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Vänkääjä on 11.10.2022, 19:13:07
Quote from: P on 11.10.2022, 19:02:36
Quote from: Emo on 11.10.2022, 16:03:05
Quote from: Roope on 11.10.2022, 15:40:47
QuoteTelevisio-ohjelmille jaettava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu sukupuolineutraaliksi

Televisio-ohjelmille jattava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu. Jatkossa ei enää jaeta vuoden mies- ja naisnäyttelijän palkintoa. Tästä lähtien palkitaan vuoden pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijän palkinnot. Päätös pohjaa yhteiskunnalliseen muutokseen.

– Koimme, että pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijäpalkinnot ovat oikea ja tuttu tapa palkita ansioituneita näyttelijöitä, perustelee Televisioakatemian puheenjohtaja Antti Väisänen tiedotteessa.
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12655930) 11.10.2022

Kiinnostaisi, mikä ihan tarkalleen ottaen on se Väisäsen tarkoittama "yhteiskunnallinen muutos", joka on johtanut päätökseen, kun siitä ei kerrota uutisessa sanallakaan.

Onko se ehkä jotain niin noloa, että siitä ollaan mieluummin hiljaa?

Auta armias, jos sivuosapalkitut tulevat olemaan naisia‼️ 😫

Auta armias, jos palkituissa ei ole "muu"-sukupuolisia ja muuta sateenkaariväkeä...
Jotain kuitenkin jätettiin, vaikka yhteiskunnallinen muutos:

Venla on suomalainen naisen etunimi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eino P. Keravalta on 11.10.2022, 19:49:11
Quote from: Roope on 11.10.2022, 15:40:47
QuoteTelevisio-ohjelmille jaettava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu sukupuolineutraaliksi

Televisio-ohjelmille jattava Kultainen Venla -palkinto muuttuu. Jatkossa ei enää jaeta vuoden mies- ja naisnäyttelijän palkintoa. Tästä lähtien palkitaan vuoden pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijän palkinnot. Päätös pohjaa yhteiskunnalliseen muutokseen.

– Koimme, että pääosa- ja sivuosanäyttelijäpalkinnot ovat oikea ja tuttu tapa palkita ansioituneita näyttelijöitä, perustelee Televisioakatemian puheenjohtaja Antti Väisänen tiedotteessa.
Yle (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12655930) 11.10.2022

Kiinnostaisi, mikä ihan tarkalleen ottaen on se Väisäsen tarkoittama "yhteiskunnallinen muutos", joka on johtanut päätökseen, kun siitä ei kerrota uutisessa sanallakaan.

Onko se ehkä jotain niin noloa, että siitä ollaan mieluummin hiljaa?

On toki luonnollista, ettei voida jakaa mies- tai naisnäyttelijäpalkintoja, koska miehiä ja naisia ei enää ole.

Sen sijaan pitäisikin jakaa sukupuolineutraaleja vaginanäyttelijä- ja penisnäyttelijäpalkintoja, koska millä tahansa sukupuolella voi olla mitkä tahansa sukupuolielimet, joten elin ei liity mitenkään sukupuoleen. Miksi näitä pitäisi jakaa? Koska elimet ovat paljon tärkeämpi asia kuin sukupuoli, joka on vain sosiaalinen konstruktio - tästä todisteena on sekin, että suuri määrä ihmisiä leikkauttaa elimensä joka vuosi. Sukupuoli on vain sana ja käsite, haaroväli ratkaisee.

Asian tiimoilta on myös tulevina vuosikymmeninä ja vuosisatoina odotettavissa paljon työtä, sillä missä ovat esimerkiksi oikeudet, joita tarvitsee nainen, joka on identifioitunut mieheksi, joka on identifioitunut naiseksi, joka on identifioitunut mieheksi, joka on identifioitunut naiseksi, joka on identifioitunut mieheksi tai niin edelleen.

Tässä on loputon työsarka, koska numerot binäärijärjestelmän kerronnaisissa tai jatkumoissa ovat loputtomia ja nopeasti ilmaistavissa ja lainsäädäntö laahaa aina väistämättä mielikuvituksen perässä. Tämä on ihmisoikeusrikos.

Nyt kaikki tukkimaan Mannerheimintie, koska p-llu ja k-rpä!

PS: Luontokato on totta. Enää meissä ei ole juuri mitään luonnollista. Persekin voidaan leikata irti ja liimata vaikka niskaan. Enteellisesti aikanaan Pahkasiassa olikin artikkeli nimeltään Niskastapaskantajat.

Se, miksi Pahkasikaa ei enää ole, on jokaisen arvattavissa. Paitsi niiden, jotka elävät oman elämänsä Pahkasikaa.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.10.2022, 20:28:31
Quote from: Eino P. Keravalta on 11.10.2022, 19:49:11
... pitäisikin jakaa ... vaginanäyttelijä- ja penisnäyttelijäpalkintoja ...

Jeps. Se, kenellä on eniten molempia, voittakoon! Jos sellaisia ei löydy, palkitaan se jolla eniten toisia. Jos sellaistakaan ei löydy, palkitaan se jolla munat, tissit ja sarvet.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Huppupelikaani on 12.10.2022, 10:31:41
Saamelaisasia ei varsinaisesti ole tämän jutun pihvi, joten laitetaan tänne ketjuun. Afroamerikkalaisilta opittu rahastussovintoprosessi saapui Suomeen.

QuoteAntti Pentikäinen aloitti syntymäpäiväkeräyksen kolttasaamelaisten hyväksi, koska "matka totuudesta sovintoon kulkee hyvityksen kautta"

Tutkimusprofessori Antti Pentikäinen haluaa tuoda Suomeen ajatuksen henkilökohtaisen korvauksen merkityksestä totuus- ja sovintoprosessissa.

SUVI-TUULI FOFONOFF
11.10. 12:44

Päivitetty 11.10. 13:38

Tutkimusprofessori Antti Pentikäinen juhlii lokakuussa 50-vuotispäiväänsä. Sen kunniaksi hän on aloittanut syntymäpäiväkeräyksen, jonka tuotto ohjataan kolttasaamelaisen yhteisön, kulttuurin ja koltansaamen kielen tukemiseksi.

Pentikäinen on koulutukseltaan teologi, mutta työurallaan hän on toiminut kansainvälisten kysymysten parissa muun muassa rauhanvälitystehtävissä. Saamelaiskysymykset ovat tulleet Pentikäiselle tutuiksi hänen toimittuaan neuvonantajana saamelaisten totuus- ja sovintoprosessissa.

Tällä hetkellä Pentikäinen toimii washingtonilaisen George Masonin yliopiston sovintoprosesseja kehittävän yksikön johdossa. Hän sai idean syntymäpäiväkeräykseen käytyään afroamerikkalaisten kanssa keskusteluja korvausten merkityksestä totuus- ja sovintoprosesseissa.

– He ovat opettaneet minulle, että matka totuudesta sovintoon kulkee hyvityksen ja korvauksen kautta. Ne eivät ole vain instituutioiden ja valtioiden etäisiä asioita, vaan asioita, joita jokainen voi henkilökohtaisesti tehdä. Haluaisin tuoda samaa ajattelua ja toimintaa Suomeen.

———
yle.fi 11.10.222 (https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-12655524)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 20.10.2022, 09:31:20
Hesarissa sinänsä mielenkiintoinen vaikkakaan ei yllättävä juttu woke-asenteita tutkivasta psykologisesta mittarista. Psykologian tutkija Oskari Lahtinen tosin toteaa ottavansa pienen riskin tutkimalla woke-ilmiötä, "koska ihmisillä on siitä todella voimakkaasti eriäviä mielipiteitä ja vahvoja tunteita". Mikä on sinänsä hieman ironista, sillä tunteet ovat perinteisesti kuuluneet olennaisena osana psykologian tutkimuskenttään.

Itselleni ei olisi tullut yllätyksenä, että psykologian ja sosiaalitieteiden opiskelijat saivat kaikista korkeimmat woke-pisteet. Jutussa ei tietenkään sitä sanota, mutta tarkoittaako yllätyksellisyys kenties sitä, että tutkija sanattomasti ihmettelee sitä kuinka psykologian opiskelijat voivat irrottautua objektiivisesta tutkimusperinteestä ja heittäytyä tunteiden vietäväksi.

Woke-kultti. On se melkoinen saavutus rakentaa ja ylläpitää ideologiaa, joka saa ei-sorretutkin oireilemaan ahdistuksella ja masennuksella. Aiemmin psykologian tutkimusperinteessä oli tärkeää erottaa omat tunteet tutkimuskohteesta, wokessa se taitaa mennä niin että tunteet ovat alfa ja omega. On kieltämättä hieman ironista, että vahvin tuki tälle masentavalle hullutukselle vaikuttaa Lahtisen mittarin mukaan tulevan nimenomaan psykologian ja sosiaalititeiden opiskelijoista ja humanististen tieteiden henkilökunnasta.

Quote from: HSKuinka woke olet? Tee testi, joka perustuu tutkijan mittariin
Korkeat woke-pisteet saaneilla on enemmän masennusta ja ahdistusta.

SYRJINTÄÄ ja epäoikeudenmukaisuuksia tunnistavaa ja niihin puuttuvaa liikehdintää on ruvettu nimittämään woke-kulttuuriksi.

Suomeksi woke tarkoittaa hereillä olemista, mutta sen voisi kääntää myös tiedostavuudeksi.

Kannattajiensa mielestä se on asiaankuuluvaa ja vastustajien mielestä liiallista herkkyyttä nähdä ympärillä muun muassa rasismia, seksismiä ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen syrjintää.

TURUN yliopiston psykologian tutkija Oskari Lahtinen on kehittänyt psykologisen mittarin, jonka avulla voi tutkia woke-asenteiden yleisyyttä. Hän kutsuu niitä tutkimuksessaan sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden asenteiksi.

Tutkimus on nyt vertaisarviossa tieteellisessä julkaisussa. Ennakkoversion voi lukea Psyarxiv-palvelusta.

"Minua on kiinnostanut se, kuinka yleisiä tällaiset asenteet ovat Suomessa", Lahtinen kertoo.

"Otan pienen riskin, kun tutkin woke-ilmiötä, koska ihmisillä on siitä todella voimakkaasti eriäviä mielipiteitä ja vahvoja tunteita."

LAHTISEN asennemittarissa on 15 väittämää, joiden kannattamisen tai vastustamisen perusteella selviää vastaajan sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden asenteiden voimakkuus.

Väittämät perustuvat tiettyihin rasismiin, feminismiin ja sukupuoleen liittyviin teorioihin ja niistä julkisuudessa levinneisiin ideoihin. Näihin teorioihin kuuluu esimerkiksi Yhdysvalloissa paljon keskustelua herättänyt kriittinen rotuteoria, jonka mukaan rasismi on kietoutunut syvälle amerikkalaiseen yhteiskuntaan.
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LAHTINEN tutki mittarillaan asenteita Turun yliopistossa opiskelijoiden ja henkilökunnan parissa. Tutkimukseen osallistui lähes 850 ihmistä.

"Henkilökunnan ja opiskelijoiden väliset keskimääräiset erot eivät olleet kovin dramaattisia siinä, miten vahvat sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden asenteet heillä oli. Mutta erot olivat näiden ryhmien sisällä suuria."

Lahtinen ei hämmästynyt siitä, että vahvimmat woke-asenteet olivat humanistisissa ja sosiaalitieteissä, mutta hänen oman alansa psykologian nouseminen kärkeen tuli hienoisena yllätyksenä.

Opiskelijoista kaikkein korkeimmat woke-pisteet saivat psykologian ja sosiaalitieteiden opiskelijat.

Luonnontieteiden opiskelijat sitä vastoin saivat mittarista pienimmät pisteet. He ovat keskimäärin melko selvästi eri mieltä woke-väittämien kanssa.
YLIOPISTON henkilökunnan joukossa selvästi korkeimmat woke-pisteet olivat humanistisissa tieteissä. Kauppatieteilijät saivat pienimmät pisteet. Luonnontieteiden ja lääketieteiden aloilla olevat sijoittuivat keskivaiheille, mutta hekin olivat keskimäärin eri mieltä woke-väittämien kanssa.

Kävi myös ilmi, että koko aineistossa naisilla oli mittarin perusteella voimakkaammat sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden asenteet kuin miehillä.

OSALLISTUJAT vastasivat myös ahdistusta, masennusta ja onnellisuutta kartoittaviin kysymyksiin.

Korkeat woke-pisteet saaneilla oli enemmän ahdistusta ja masennusta kuin muilla. He olivat myös vähemmän onnellisia.

"Se oli mielenkiintoista, koska näin oli riippumatta siitä, oliko henkilöllä itsellään kokemuksia sorretuksi tulemisesta. Pelkästään se, että sinulla on tällainen maailmankuva tarkoitti, että olet myös masentuneempi ja ahdistuneempi", Lahtinen sanoo.

https://www.hs.fi/tiede/art-2000009000155.html (boldaukset minun.)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 20.10.2022, 14:58:01
Quote from: Äpyli on 20.10.2022, 09:31:20
Hesarissa sinänsä mielenkiintoinen vaikkakaan ei yllättävä juttu woke-asenteita tutkivasta psykologisesta mittarista. Psykologian tutkija Oskari Lahtinen tosin toteaa ottavansa pienen riskin tutkimalla woke-ilmiötä, "koska ihmisillä on siitä todella voimakkaasti eriäviä mielipiteitä ja vahvoja tunteita". Mikä on sinänsä hieman ironista, sillä tunteet ovat perinteisesti kuuluneet olennaisena osana psykologian tutkimuskenttään.

Otti riskin, ja lehden woke-osasto "HS Nytin työryhmä" reagoi heti:

QuoteKuinka ahterista olet? Tee testi, joka perustuu ihmisoikeuksien kunnioittamiseen

Korkeat ahteri-pisteet saaneilla on taipumusta polkea sorrettuja vähemmistöjä.

BOOMERIT ovat alkaneet kutsua syrjintää ja epäoikeudenmukaisuuksia tunnistavaa liikehdintää woke-kulttuuriksi. Heidän mukaansa woke tarkoittaa hereillä olemista ja tiedostavuutta.

Kun nuori sukupolvi nostaa esiin yhteiskunnallisia ongelmia, keski-ikäisillä on tapana nimittää toimintaa cäncelöinniksi.

HS julkaisi torstaina kuinka woke olet -testin. HS Nyt kehitti testistä paremmin ajassa kiinni olevan version.

Testimme ei perustu mihinkään vertaisarvioituun tai muuhunkaan tutkimukseen. Poikkeuksellisesti julkaisemme sen silti.

Testaa, kuinka ahterista olet

Saat tietää, kuinka ahterista olet reagoimalla seuraaviin väitteisiin.

1. Ihminen voi itse määritellä oman sukupuoli-identiteettinsä.
- Täysin samaa mieltä
- Olen ahterista

2. Etuoikeutettujen ihmisten vihapuhetta kuuluisi rajoittaa.
- Täysin samaa mieltä
- Olen ahterista

3. Arvosteleva puhe transnaisista olympialaisissa ei edistä kenenkään oikeuksia.
- Täysin samaa mieltä
- Olen ahterista

4. Transihmisillä on ihmisarvo ja he ovat olemassa.
- Täysin samaa mieltä
- Olen ahterista
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/nyt/art-2000009147362.html) 20.10.2022

Jatkakaa vain kuopan kaivamista.

Meinasinkin kirjoittaa tuosta tutkija Lahtisen mittarin yhdestä kohdasta, että todellinen wokettajahan ei kai edes tunnusta woken olemassaoloa, sillä vaatimuksissa on kyse vain universaaleista ihmisoikeuksista jne. Nytin porukka ystävällisesti vahvisti oletukseni.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 20.10.2022, 15:57:41
Quote from: Roope on 20.10.2022, 14:58:01
lehden woke-osasto "HS Nytin työryhmä" reagoi heti:

Tuo ahteri-testi työsuorituksen julkaistuna lopputuloksena symboloi kyllä mainiosti sitä taantumisen kaltaista emotionaalista reaktiota, jonka valtaan työryhmä joutui. Joku julkesi pilkata pyhää lehmää -> polje jalkaa ja kirjoita väkisin "hauska" juttu, joka lähinnä haiskahtaa passiivis-aggressiiviselta ja omituiselta sisäpiirin huumorilta kaikille muille.

HS Nytin työryhmä taisi juuri huomaamattaan suorittaa epävirallisen validoinnin woke-mittarille.  ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 20.10.2022, 17:01:20
Quote from: Äpyli on 20.10.2022, 15:57:41
Tuo ahteri-testi työsuorituksen julkaistuna lopputuloksena symboloi kyllä mainiosti sitä taantumisen kaltaista emotionaalista reaktiota, jonka valtaan työryhmä joutui.

Testi symboloi woketusta erinomaisesti. Mikäli et ole kaikista esitetyistä asioista absoluuttisen samaa mieltä ilman kysymyksiä ja tarkennuksia, olet paha ihminen ja vihollinen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eino P. Keravalta on 20.10.2022, 17:53:00
Eräitä woke-uskon piirteitä:

1. Valmius väkivaltaan ja laittomuuksiin
2. Epädemokraattisuus, kyvyttömyys kuulla muita
3. Loogiset kömmähdykset ja absurdiudet
4. Rasismi, ryhmien arvojärjestys
5. Absoluuttinen, sokea oikeaoppisuus
6. Fanaattisuus ja raivo
7. Tieteen, kuten biologian vastaisuus
8. Viha sananvapautta kohtaan, sensuuri
9. Ihmisarvon riisto niiltä, jotka ovat eri mieltä
10. Psykopatologinen moraalihybris ja kollektiivinen narsismi

Jokainen voi ymmärtää, että tuollainen liike on sairas ja vaarallinen, 10 000 kertaa pahempi uhka kuin mitkään uusnatsit jos kohta en heistäkään pidä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: duc on 20.10.2022, 18:10:42
Awoken- ja cancel-ilmiöt kuvastavat nk. dualistista ihmis- ja maailmankuvaa. Ne ovat saaneet valtaa länsimaissa, vaikka hyvän ja pahan taistelu on tyypillisesti kehitysmaalainen ja arkaainen kulttuuripiirre. Kristillisyyden sekä valistuksen pohjalle rakentuneen läntisen maailman luulisi jättäneen tuon taakseen. Ehkä se on tullut takaisin, koska nuo kaksi pilaria ovat moraali- ja oikeusfilosofisella tasolla hämärtyneet länsimaalaisen ihmisen arkielämässä. Kummastakin on väellä tietämättömyyteen perustuva vääristynyt irvikuva, olkinukke, ja nuori tekopyhä monikulturisti on itsensä niiden molempien yläpuolelle korottanut. Tuollainen ihmisoikeushybrismi saa minussa aikaan välinpitämättömyyden tunteen. Maailma, johon heidän ideologiansa heidät vie, on sota, eikä minulla riitä myötätuntoa, kun he ovat käyneet taisteluun boomereiksi kutsumaansa vanhaa väkeä kohtaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: F1nka on 20.10.2022, 18:42:52
Quote from: HS...
OSALLISTUJAT vastasivat myös ahdistusta, masennusta ja onnellisuutta kartoittaviin kysymyksiin.

Korkeat woke-pisteet saaneilla oli enemmän ahdistusta ja masennusta kuin muilla. He olivat myös vähemmän onnellisia.

"Se oli mielenkiintoista, koska näin oli riippumatta siitä, oliko henkilöllä itsellään kokemuksia sorretuksi tulemisesta. Pelkästään se, että sinulla on tällainen maailmankuva tarkoitti, että olet myös masentuneempi ja ahdistuneempi", Lahtinen sanoo.

Mielenkiintoinen kysymys on, kumpi tulee ensin: taipumus masennukseen ja ahdistukseen vai tiedostavaisuus. Pienimpiinkin potenttiaalisten syrjimisten muotoihin huomion kiinnittämällä varmastikin saa syvennettyä ahdistunutta oloaan, mutta mikä käynnistää masennuksen ja ahdistuksen kierteen. Itse veikkaisin, että alentuntunut toimintakyky on ensimmäinen aste.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eino P. Keravalta on 20.10.2022, 18:45:39
Quote from: duc on 20.10.2022, 18:10:42
..eikä minulla riitä myötätuntoa, kun he ovat käyneet taisteluun boomereiksi kutsumaansa vanhaa väkeä kohtaan.

Ymmärrän.

Mutta 'boom' tarkoittaa kukoistamista. Joten boomeri on kukoistava ihminen tai elämänsä kukkeimmassa, kauneimmassa ja kypsimmässä vaiheessa. Siitä voi olla ylpeä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 20.10.2022, 19:27:16
Bloomeri.  :)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eino P. Keravalta on 20.10.2022, 20:04:16
Quote from: Uuno Nuivanen on 20.10.2022, 19:27:16
Bloomeri.  :)

Ja mikä on boomerin vastakohta tai opponentti?

Se on doomeri: tyyppi, joka voi pahoin koska omassa kuplassaan lietsoo itsensä maailmantuhofiiliksiin eli tuhoon, doom  :) Woke-eunukit ovat doomereita.

Olen mieluummin boomeri kuin doomeri, mieluummin kukoistava kuin luovuttanut, negatiivinen nihilisti, joka ei osaa muuta kuin syyllistää toisia ihmisiä ja ampua itseään jalkaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 20.10.2022, 22:04:21
Lähes joka länsimaassa oli 1940-l lopussa babyboom eli suuret ikäluokat syntyivät. Moisesta anglismista tuo boomeri on väännetty.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 22.10.2022, 17:25:06
Quote from: Äpyli on 20.10.2022, 09:31:20
Hesarissa sinänsä mielenkiintoinen vaikkakaan ei yllättävä juttu woke-asenteita tutkivasta psykologisesta mittarista.
Myös kommentit olivat paljonpuhuvia. Oikeastaan se jakautui muutamaan ryhmään joista eniten mielenkiintoani vei: väärin tutkittu ja väärät kysymykset, väitteet olivat vääriä ja vastaukset eivät kerro ongelmasta.

Eli kommentoijat wokeudessaan eivät tuohtuneina ymmärtäneet että tässä tutkittiin wokeuden astetta eikä kysymysten oikeellisuutta.

Jo tuon kommenttiosion kommenteista voisi tehdä monta tutkimusta. Väärästä suunnasta tosin eli koneensäätiö saa olla rauhassa.

Ja tieteellemme iso  :facepalm:

Samalla tavalla kuin romaniryhmästä ei nouse rikollisuutta tuomitsevia, niin sama on tiedeyhteisön suhde huuhaatieteeseen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 22.10.2022, 19:54:15
Quote
Dutchman speaks the Sad Truth.... Same thing goes for all Western Nations.

https://gab.com/Pig_Farmer/posts/109210675425380979
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 22.10.2022, 21:37:33
Quote from: HSBOOMERIT ovat alkaneet kutsua syrjintää ja epäoikeudenmukaisuuksia tunnistavaa liikehdintää woke-kulttuuriksi. Heidän mukaansa woke tarkoittaa hereillä olemista ja tiedostavuutta.

Tuon kuvauksen perusteella ainakaan minä en ole mikään boomeri, sillä minun mielestäni woke edustaa kapeakatseisuutta ja ahdasmielisyyttä noin oikein kauniisti kuvattuna.
Arkisemmin kuvattuna woke tarkoittaa joitain rehupäitä jotka voitaisiin kierrättää biojätteenä, mutta tämäkin on vielä kaunistelevaa näkemystä.

Oikein realistisesti kuvattuna minä ajattelen woke porukasta aivan samoin kuin he ajattelevat minusta ja minun viiteryhmästäni.
Ehkä suurimpana erona meillä on se, että minä en mistään hinnasta ryhtyisi keskitysleirin vartijaksi, eikä myöskään kukaan viiteryhmästäni.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 22.10.2022, 21:58:53
Quote from: Äpyli on 20.10.2022, 09:31:20
Quote from: HSKuinka woke olet? Tee testi, joka perustuu tutkijan mittariin
Korkeat woke-pisteet saaneilla on enemmän masennusta ja ahdistusta.
...
OSALLISTUJAT vastasivat myös ahdistusta, masennusta ja onnellisuutta kartoittaviin kysymyksiin.

Korkeat woke-pisteet saaneilla oli enemmän ahdistusta ja masennusta kuin muilla. He olivat myös vähemmän onnellisia.

https://www.hs.fi/tiede/art-2000009000155.html (boldaukset minun.)

Woke = ahdistus ei mielestäni ole yllättävää vaan oikeastaan aika odotettavaa.

Olen joskus kirjoittanut Hommalle koksien Jonathan Haidtin luentoa vasemmiston ja oikeistoin oikeustajusta ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SOQduoLgRw ) ja tämä woke = ahdistus pohjautuu mielestäni Haidtin toteamukseen vasemmistolaisten subjektiivisesta oikeuskäsityksestä.

Vasemmalle suuntautuneet painottavat hyvin vahvasti sitä mitä he kokevat oikeaksi muttei välttämättä ole oikein objektiivisesti katsottuna. Tästä seuraa mm. se, että korostetaan lopputulosten tasa-arvoa mahdollisuuksien tasa-arvoa sijaan. Ts. tärkeämpää on että kaikilla on sama määrä nallekarkkeja eikä se, että kaikilla on samanlainen mahdollisuus hankkia nallekarkkia itselleen.

Käytännön tasolla tämä ajattelu törmää hyvin nopeasti reaalimaailman tosiasioihin, koska kaikille ei yksinkertaisesti ole jaettavissa samat edut kun kaikilla muilla. Vasemmistolaisen oikeuskäsityksen ja reaalimaailman välillä on siis jatkuva konflikti.

Woke ideologia pyörii käytännössä kokonaan oikeudenmukaisuusparadigman ympärillä. Se keskittyy esim. rotukysymyksiin koska mustat mielletään olevan rakenteellisesti sorrettuja ihan pelkän ihonvärinsä perusteella. Sortajat ovat tietenkin aina valkoisia, sekin pelkän ihonväriin perustuen. Samalla oikeustajulogiikalla ollaan päädytty siihen, että miehet sortavat naisia, heterot homoja, normaalit miehet ja naiset transuja jne. jne. Woken pohjalla on siis oikeustaju, johon pyritään pakottaa ympäristö esim. niin, että valkoiset eivät saa puhua jos on mustia läsnä, "väärän" mielipiteen esittäjä canceloidaan, ihmisiä vaiennetaan jne.

Wokettajat ovat pääasiassa vasemmistolaisia aatoksiltaan, jolloin siis syntyy suora kytkös vasemmistolaisen oikeustajun ja woke-kulttuurin välille. Oikeastaan woke onkin vain yksi vasemmistolaisen subjektiivisen oikeustajun manifestaatio.

Ahdistuneisuus astuu kuvaan siten, että wokettajat - käytännössä siis vasemmistolaiset - ovat a), aatoksissaan ristiriidassa reaalimaailman kanssa ja b), he myös näkevät jatkuvasti vääryyksiä ympärillään.

He siis elävät tilanteessa, jossa hyvin moni asia on heidän mielestä pielessä ja pienetkin asiat kuten jonkun tuntemattoman henkilön väärä sana twitterin kusirännissä triggeröi heidät raivon partaalle. Kun tähän lisätään se tosiasia, että heidän ideologia koko ajan törmää todellisuuden kanssa (kuten se aina vasemmiston kanssa tekee) eikä mitään "edistystä" koskaan tapahdu jatkuvasta raivoamisesta ja kanssaihmisten nuhtelemisesta huolimatta, ei ole ihme että woket masentuvat; woket taistelevat reaalimaailman tuulimyllyjä vastaan.

Ilmiönä kyse on siis siitä, että emotionaalisesti epästabiilit ihmiset, joilla on heikko looginen päättelykyky ja ylikorostunut sympatiatuntemus - siis vasemmistolaiset - ovat rakentaneet itselleen idealistisen fantasiamaailman, jota kaikkien tulisi noudattaa vasemmistolaisen konformismin puitteissa. Kun tämä ei toteudu todellisessa elämässä kovasta yrityksestä huolimatta, he masentuvat ja joskus ryhdytään jopa väkivaltaan, joka on yleistä vasemmalla.

Onnettomuus ja masentuneisuus ja siitä monesti seuraava turhautuminen ja väkivaltainen luonne on mielestäni hyvin yleinen piirre vasemmistolaisilla. Se ei koske vain wokeja vaan menee läpi koko vasemmiston. Lähinnä impulssikontrolli estää vasemmistolaisia alkaa murhaamaan ihmisiä ympärillään, joskus he tosin tekevät sitäkin.

QuoteKorkeat woke-pisteet saaneilla oli enemmän ahdistusta ja masennusta kuin muilla. He olivat myös vähemmän onnellisia. "Se oli mielenkiintoista, koska näin oli riippumatta siitä, oliko henkilöllä itsellään kokemuksia sorretuksi tulemisesta.

Ylikorostunut sympatiatuntemus johtaa siihen, että woket loukkaantuvat muiden puolesta ja myös kysymättä. Wokeen kuuluu leimallisesti se, että ns. "etuoikeutettuihin" kuuluvat valkoiset naiset ovat aggressiivisimpia wokettajia ja ovat heristelemässä sormia muille vaikkei "uhri" edes ole tietoinen väitetystä vääryydestä. Ylikorostuneen emotionaalisena olentoina naiset tietenkin asettuvat muiden kenkiin helpommin. Wokettajien osalta kyse lienee lisäksi siitä, että halutaan mieltä hiveleviä hyvyyspisteitä "taistelemalla sorrettujen puolesta".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 22.10.2022, 22:22:18
Tälle wokepaskalle löytyy helposti arvattavissa oleva sylttytehdas mutta ei sylttytehdastakaan voi syyttää
meidän  omasta heikkoudesta.

Sylttytehdas kuitenkin on vihollinen ja tekee mitä vihollinen tekee eli haluaa vahingoittaa meitä.

Miksi me itse olemme niin heikkoja sylttytehtaan edessä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 22.10.2022, 22:30:32
Missä määrin woke on päällekkäinen intersektionaalisen feminismin kanssa? Kumpikin perustuvat kulttuurimarxisimiin ja Herbert Marcusen teoriaan represiivisestä toleranssista. Kummassakin on kastijaon kaltainen uhrihierarkia jossa tavoitellaan korkeinta mahdollista uhristatusta. Mitä paskempi elämä jollakin on, sitä enemmän on uhripisteitä ja korkeampi uhristatus. Se kannustaa perverssillä tavalla siihen että olisi omat asiat mahdollisimman huonosti.

Täällä olevat ovat ehkä huomanneet että jotkin vasemmistolaiset ovat laitteneet itsestään maininnan että on mielenterveyskuntoutuja. Jos on valkoinen hetero jolla ei ole ongelmia, ei saa uhripisteitä. Korkeintaan jos on nainen, sillä saa minimipisteet pelkästään sillä että on nainen. Mutta jos on jotain ongelmia päänupissa, sillä saa lisää pisteitä. Jos on ylipainoinen ja on ongelmia painonhallinnan kanssa, silloin voi sanoa olevansa kehopositiivinen. Jos on homo ta lesbo, sillä saa jo lisäpisteitä vaikkei olisikaan muita ongelmiksi koettuja. Vielä kun on rodullisestettu, sitten ollaan jo pitkällä. Jos uskonto on islam, ollaan päästy aika ylös.

Valkoinen voi päästä johonkin asti näillä spekseillä jos on nämä kaikki: nainen, mielenterveysongelmainen, ylipainoinen, homoseksuaali. Saako noiden päälle pisteitä jos kääntyy muslimiksi?

Ei-valkoisella on automaattisesti jotain pisteitä siitä että on "rodullistettu".

Musilmilla on automaattisesti jotain pisteitä siitä kun on muslimi.

Joten onko sorretuin ihmisyksilö sellainen joka on: nainen, ylipainoinen, mielenterveysongelmainen, lesbo, "rodullistettu", muslimi? Puuttuiko tästä vielä jotain?

Tähän en listannut sukupuolenvaihdoksien tehneitä. Niillä on tuossa hierarkiassa korkea asema pelkästään sen takia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 22.10.2022, 22:45:17
Quote from: -PPT- on 22.10.2022, 22:22:18
Tälle wokepaskalle löytyy helposti arvattavissa oleva sylttytehdas mutta ei sylttytehdastakaan voi syyttää
meidän  omasta heikkoudesta.

Sylttytehdas kuitenkin on vihollinen ja tekee mitä vihollinen tekee eli haluaa vahingoittaa meitä.

Miksi me itse olemme niin heikkoja sylttytehtaan edessä?

Veikkaan syyn olevan se että me emme ole tottuneet käymään kulttuurisotaa emmäkä osaa kulttuurisodankäyntiä. Se taas johtuu siitä että kulttuuri on useita vuosikymmeniä ollut vasemmiston hiekkalaatikko. Ollaan totuttu asetelmaan jossa "oikeiston" hallussa on talous ja "vasemmiston" hallussa on kulttuuri. Työläis- ja talousvasemmisto vaihtui kulttuurivasemmistoksi. "Oikeistoa" tai siis arvokonservatiivisia nationalisteja taas ei ole aikoihin näkynyt kulttuuri-instituutioiden vaikuttajina.

Tässä on se tilanne että "suuri raha" tukee kulttuurivasemmistoa ja wokea/intersektionaalisuutta. Se on win-win tilanne kun kulttuurivasemmisto saa mellestää ja saa siihen rahallista tukea. Vastaavasti "Suuri raha" on ostanut vasemmiston ulos työläisten puolustamisesta sillä että maksaa sen kulttuurivallankumoukselliset pyrkimykset. "Suuri raha" on todennäköisesti päätellyt että woke/intersektionaalisuus on halvempaa kuin työläisten oikeuksista huolehtiminen joten siksi se on valmis rahoittamaan kommunismia.

Woke ja intersektionaalisuus olisivat kaikin tavoin marginaalissa jos "suuri raha" ei rahoittaisi sitä mitenkään. Eivät ne pelkillä valtion taitelija-apurahoilla pötkisi niin pitkälle kuin ovat tällä hetkellä päässeet.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: lurkkeri on 22.10.2022, 23:33:08
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Tätä on ollut kylmäävää seurata, vasemmiston ja suuryritysten epäpyhää allianssia. Ilman tätä woketus ei olisi millään saavuttanut nykyisiä asemiaan. Onneksi vastaliike on jo alkanut. Ainakin Washington Post ja välillä jopa Financial Times julkaisee juttuja, joista huomaa ettei tämä  ollutkaan niin hyvä bisnes. Varsinkaan ilmastohumpan osalta.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 23.10.2022, 00:45:46
What.. really?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FexnZahxE7Y
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HDu5_Lua-8w
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m1ycVMUPDRA
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/C0Qt3RQNTgE
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: n.n. on 23.10.2022, 03:46:46
Quote from: Totti on 22.10.2022, 21:58:53
Ylikorostunut sympatiatuntemus johtaa siihen, että woket loukkaantuvat muiden puolesta ja myös kysymättä. Wokeen kuuluu leimallisesti se, että ns. "etuoikeutettuihin" kuuluvat valkoiset naiset ovat aggressiivisimpia wokettajia ja ovat heristelemässä sormia muille vaikkei "uhri" edes ole tietoinen väitetystä vääryydestä. Ylikorostuneen emotionaalisena olentoina naiset tietenkin asettuvat muiden kenkiin helpommin. Wokettajien osalta kyse lienee lisäksi siitä, että halutaan mieltä hiveleviä hyvyyspisteitä "taistelemalla sorrettujen puolesta".
Tähän liittyy myös toinen piirre, joka ei aivan yhtä hyvin tule esille, mutta mielestäni on nähtävissä. Subjektiivinen on sinällään ehkä hieman virheellinen sana, sillä vaikka sitä tarkastellaan hyvinkin yksinapaisesti, se ei tapahdu yksittäisen yksilön ehdoilla.

Ennemminkin ihmisiä tarkastellaan massana ja mahdollisia kyseisen näkemyksen mukaisia rikkomuksia tarkastellaan, ei niinkään yksilöön kohdistuvina, näkemykseen kohdistuvina. Niinpä kaikilla näkemyksen jakajilla on oikeus toimia, koska heidän näkemystään on loukattu. Itse uhri on toissijainen objekti, joka antaa syyn toiminnalle. Uhrilla itsellään tarvitse olla edes erityisiä piirteitä vaan hän toimii ryhmänsä edustajana ollessaan objektina.

Näin vääryys, jota kukaan (asianosainen) ei koe vääryydeksi, saadaan tuomittavaksi, ja toisaalta vääryys, jonka kaikki (asianosaiset) näkevät vääryytenä, voidaan todeta toisarvoiseksi (koska ei merkittävästi ole ristiriidassa näkemyksen kanssa). Vältin käyttämästä sellaisia sanoja kuten ideologia tai kultti.

Näin on saatu institutionalisoitua ei mieltä olemisen vääryys tai suoremmin sanottuna wokettajan tunteiden loukkaaminen. Sama järjestelmä ennen yksilöä -ajattelu löytyy toki muualtakin. Voidaan spekuloida, ovatko samanlaiset (luonteen)piirteet olleet rakentamassa niitä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: artti on 23.10.2022, 13:25:57
Kumpi se on:

A. Uutistiedotusvälineet ovat näennäisesti kannattavinaan viherpunawokea samalla, kun uutistiedotusvälineet viestittävät rivien välistä, että "roomalaiset ovat hulluja".

B. Uutistiedotusvälineet kannattavat oikeasti viherpunawokea.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 23.10.2022, 13:53:38
Quote from: lurkkeri on 22.10.2022, 23:33:08
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Tätä on ollut kylmäävää seurata, vasemmiston ja suuryritysten epäpyhää allianssia. Ilman tätä woketus ei olisi millään saavuttanut nykyisiä asemiaan. ...
Isolla rahalla on varmasti parhaat psykologit käytössä jotka rahalla saa. Ei tämä veivaus mistään vahingossa tullut.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 23.10.2022, 14:23:28
Lisäys: ja vaikka vihervasemmisto oli näitä suuryrityksiä vastaan, niin se ei tarkoita että he olivat väärässä.

Isot monikansalliset too big to fail-yritykset eivät ole kenenkään kaveri ja historia on näyttänyt näiden käyttäneen epärehellisiä ja -eettisiä tapoja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.10.2022, 15:10:29
Quote from: https://twitter.com/RonPaul/status/1583849055028801536Ron Paul

More and more people are waking up to the absurdity of "getting rid of fossil fuels," and "net zero" carbon.

The idea of "eating bugs" is dehumanizing.

We work to bring home the bacon, not the bugs.

"Woke capitalism" & "climate finance" are massive bubbles waiting to burst.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.10.2022, 17:50:49
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/uhriutumista-militanttia-suvaitsevaisuutta-poyhkean-eliitin-parempaa-vihaa-woken-lyhyt-historia/?fbclid=IwAR2-BVBOx5aAY3Kp-AuHdtUPug70wYlbKSUY6k4tvU35LGymAkxdp_B0xtg

Quotelokakuu 21, 20228:01
Uutteraa uhriu­tu­mista, mili­tanttia suvait­se­vai­suutta, pöyh­keän eliitin "parempaa" vihaa – Woken lyhyt historia

Ei tätä voi referoida. Liian pitkä. Varmuuskopio liitteenä, koska SU oli tänään alhaalla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.10.2022, 15:23:59
Quote from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ909OjTyXkAbsolute Mayhem & Chaos at Penn State University with the most Mentally Insane College Students Ever 4:05
548 837 katselukertaa  25.10.2022

Lukijakommentti: "I love that he [Alex Stein] just matches their annoying energy and causes them to get instantly frustrated because they can't handle seeing their own mirrored behavior. It's really poetic and beautiful."

Kyseessä on ilmeisesti ehdokas tulevissa vaaleissa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 26.10.2022, 18:49:22
Omasta mielestäni sen monimuotoisuuden lisäämisen ja valkoisen ylivallan purkamisen voisi aloittaa antamalla kenkää noille ulisijoille ja ottamalla niiden tilalle crackin ja metan myyjiä.

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Race/Ethnicity   Percentage
African American   5.63%
Asian American   6.40%
Hispanic/Latino   7.65%
Native American/Alaskan Native   0.13%
Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander   0.11%
White   64.95%
Multiple Races   3.44%
Unknown/Undeclared   2.28%
International   9.36%

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https://admissions.psu.edu/apply/statistics/ (https://admissions.psu.edu/apply/statistics/)

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/pennsylvania-state-university-main-campus/student-life/diversity/#ethnic_diversity (https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/pennsylvania-state-university-main-campus/student-life/diversity/#ethnic_diversity)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 27.10.2022, 04:59:47
Kyllä tämä tulosta tekee...

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 27.10.2022, 14:29:15
QuoteKolumni: Näin woke-hulluus tunkeutui yliopistoihin – kyttäämistä, ilmiantoja ja pelkääviä opettajia
Sanna Ukkola

Poliittinen woke-aktivismi on lipunut akatemiaan – ja joissain oppilaitoksissa se on jo vyörynyt osaksi kaikkea toimintaa, kirjoittaa Iltalehden kolumnisti Sanna Ukkola.

Meiliin lävähtää sähköposti:

"Kiitos tämänpäiväisestä kolumnistasi! Sinä et voi uskoa, millaista on olla valkoinen mies nykypäivän yliopistolla. Tekstisi on erittäin tärkeä."

Saan kolumneistani vastaavaa palautetta nykyään hyvin usein, huolestuttavan usein. Mitä ihmettä yliopistoilla tapahtuu? Yritetäänpä selvittää.

Tuoreessa muistissa on vielä Suomen Kuvalehden juttu, jossa kuvattiin, kuinka taidekoulujen opettajat yrittävät luovia opiskelijoiden traumojen ja vaatimusten keskellä.

Eräs opettaja kertoi, kuinka oppilaat ahdistuivat vanhoista elokuvista, joissa oli naisiin kohdistuvaa väkivaltaa ja pitivät väkivaltaisena kokemuksena, kun opettajat pyysivät heitä lukemaan Shakespearea.

Jutussa kerrottiin, kuinka oppilaat toimittivat korkeakoulujen henkilökunnalle adresseja ja "inklusiivisuusagendoja" allekirjoitettaviksi: niissä vaadittiin pakollisia sensitiivisyyskoulutuksia ja ottamaan kursseja suunniteltaessa huomioon kolonialismi, dekolonialismi, sukupuolisensitiivisyys, turvallinen tila ja intersektionaalinen feminismi.

Yritän selvittää, onko meno akatemiassa vielä samanlaista. Se on hankalaa, koska moni opettaja pelkää: heitä on vaadittu olemaan puhumatta toimittajille ja heidät on käytännössä uhkailtu hiljaisiksi. Silti osa suostuu puhumaan minulle nimettömänä.

Eräs tutkija kuvaa pelon ilmapiiriä yliopistoilla ja kertoo, kuinka työntekijöistä saatetaan tehtailla kanteluita esimerkiksi mielipiteen ilmaisusta työajan ulkopuolella.

"Vuonna 2022 yliopistolla on ihmisiä, jotka kyttäävät kollegoiden julkisia kommentaareja ja tekevät siitä DDR-henkisiä ilmiantoja. Kuvottavaa. En vieläkään tahdo uskoa sitä todeksi."

Eräs opettaja kertoo, kuinka jotkut oppilaat pitävät "ongelmallisena" sitä, että hän on valkoinen, keski-ikäinen cis-heteromies. ...

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/ffacf2d1-7150-4aee-a120-18b74a68f95a (https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/ffacf2d1-7150-4aee-a120-18b74a68f95a)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 27.10.2022, 14:37:01
Sanna Ukkolan kolumni: Näin woke-hulluus tunkeutui yliopistoihin – kyttäämistä, ilmiantoja ja pelkääviä opettajia
https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/ffacf2d1-7150-4aee-a120-18b74a68f95a

QuoteSe on hankalaa, koska moni opettaja pelkää: heitä on vaadittu olemaan puhumatta toimittajille ja heidät on käytännössä uhkailtu hiljaisiksi. Silti osa suostuu puhumaan minulle nimettömänä.

Eräs tutkija kuvaa pelon ilmapiiriä yliopistoilla ja kertoo, kuinka työntekijöistä saatetaan tehtailla kanteluita esimerkiksi mielipiteen ilmaisusta työajan ulkopuolella.

"Vuonna 2022 yliopistolla on ihmisiä, jotka kyttäävät kollegoiden julkisia kommentaareja ja tekevät siitä DDR-henkisiä ilmiantoja. Kuvottavaa. En vieläkään tahdo uskoa sitä todeksi."

Eräs opettaja kertoo, kuinka jotkut oppilaat pitävät "ongelmallisena" sitä, että hän on valkoinen, keski-ikäinen cis-heteromies.

"Lisäksi opiskelijoiden puheissa on täysin automatisoituna termit etuoikeutettu, valkoinen, heteronormatiivinen, eurosentrinen; ja rasismia, eri fobioita, naisvihaa ja raiskauskulttuuria etsitään käytännössä jokaisella kurssilla", hän kuvaa.
...
Opiskelijat ahdistuvat teemoista, jotka he kokevat väkivaltaisiksi tai muuten ongelmallisiksi – he saattavat alkaa itkeä tunneilla, jos puhutaan vaikeista aiheista, kuten transfobiasta tai etuoikeuksien tiedostamisesta.

Sisältövaroitukset ovat jo niin vakiintunut käytäntö, että jopa esitysten "maiskutuksista" saatetaan varoittaa, koska maiskuttaminen saattaa kuulostaa jonkun mielestä ahdistavalta.

Onkohan tämä maiskutuksesta varoittaminen woke-hulluudesta pilan tekemistä vai ihan tosissaan tehtyä?

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Samoin maailmanhistorian upeimmat klassikot ovat muuttuneet äärimmäisen vaarallisiksi: ne ahdistavat, loukkaavat, triggeröivät ja traumatisoivat – ovat "väkivaltaa" lukijoita kohtaan.
...
"Ei ollut, mutta vastassa oli vyöry syytöksiä: elokuva oli valkoinen, heteronormatiivinen, keskiluokkainen, siinä esitettiin vähemmistöt väärin, siinä oli naisiin kohdistuvaa väkivaltaa ja se oli täysin vanhanaikainen."

Kotimaiset elokuvaklassikot ja kirjallisuus ovat ongelmallisia, koska ne ovat liian valkoisia, suomea opiskelukielenä saatetaan pitää "ulossulkevana".

Kritiikkikuoron vuoksi opettaja onkin lopettanut käyttämästä mitään teoksia opetuksessaan. Oppilaitoksessa pannaan myös oppimateriaalia täysin uusiksi vaatimusten takia.

"Eli tämä kyttääminen on saanut minut opettajana jo luopumaan yhdestä keskeisimmästä opetusalaani kuuluvasta materiaalista. En yksinkertaisesti jaksa kuunnella sitä automaattina tulevaa kuoroa", opettaja kuvaa.

Antirasistiset koulutusohjelmat ovat myös arkipäivää, ja oppilaitokset sitoutuvat edistämään turvallisia tiloja, inklusiivisuutta, diversiteettiä ja niin edelleen. Työpaikan julkisissa tiloissa näkyi viime keväänä Olen antirasisti -kampanja, ja kaikkia kutsuttiin julkisesti tunnustamaan, että he eivät ole rasisteja.

Eli tämäkin yllä oleva piirre woke-kultista on jo alkanut rantautua Suomeen.

Quote
"Pidin tuota irvokkaana. Mielestäni kampanjassa, tai ainakin siinä, miten sitä meille tyrkytettiin, oli kyse perinteisestä 'milloin lakkasit hakkaamasta vaimoasi -kysymyksestä'."

Eräässä oppilaitoksessa valkoihoinen opettaja joutui jättämään ohjauksen oppilastyössä, jossa oli vain tummaihoisia oppilaita – valkoinen opettaja olisi tehnyt tilasta "turvattoman". Esityksen kutsussa luki erikseen, että valkoiset eivät ole tervetulleita.

"Meidän laitoksella on parhaillaan käynnissä antirasistinen koulutus, joka on täyttä hölynpölyä, mutta josta kaikki muut tuntuvat olevan kovin innoissaan. Meille jaettiin tietopaketti siitä, mutta en pystynyt lukemaan sitä kovin pitkälle, aivan sairasta kamaa", yliopistotutkija kuvaa.

"Käytännössä koko työtäni ja kaikkea opetustani koskevat kysymykset: kuinka kukin kurssini edistää antirasismia ja inklusiivisuutta ja miten vähemmistöt on huomioitu. Tämä vaikuttaa tietysti myös nyt tekeillä olevien uusien opetussuunnitelmien laatimiseen. Opetussuunnitelmien tasolla tämä tarkoittaa vaikkapa kysymystä siitä, kuinka dekolonialismi on otettu niissä huomioon", eräs opettaja kertoo.

Yllä näkyy myös tämä pakollisen diversiteettipakotuksenkin rantautuminen Suomeen.

Quote
Opettajan lähes kaikki opiskelijat ovat nyt lisänneet sähköpostinsa automaattiseen allekirjoitukseen englanninkieliset pronominit. Hän pitää omituisena, että opiskelijat ilmoittavat lähes ensimmäisenä joko sukupuolensa tai seksuaalisen suuntautumisensa.

Käyttäisivät suomen kieltä, niin ei olisi persoonapronominiongelmaa, mutta ilmeisesti tämäkin tuontitavarana tuotu muotivillitys pitää väkisin saada Suomeenkin.

Quote
"Koulutusohjelmani on erittäin naisvaltainen ja feministinen. Siksi miesopiskelijat ovat ratkaisseet asemansa niin, että he ovat alkaneet haukkua miehiä ja vähätellä miehiä kiinnostavia aiheita. Naisten ulkonäköpaineet ja syömishäiriöt ovat yhteiskunnallisesti kiinnostavia, miehiä koskevat ongelmat eivät."
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.10.2022, 00:59:44
QuoteMarkku Jokisipilä
...Elinkautinen vääryyksien vankilassa
(kolumni, Ilkka-Pohjalainen 15.12.2021)

Yrittäessäni käsittää kulttuurimme nykyilmiöitä päädyin lukemaan amerikkalaisten sosiologien Bradley Campbellin ja Jason Manningin kirjan The Rise of the Victimhood Culture vuodelta 2018. Heidän pääteesinsä on, että on syntynyt uusi moraalinen kulttuuri, jossa uhrius on sosiaalista ja poliittista pääomaa. Uhrin asemasta on tullut monille yksilöille ja ryhmille suoranainen tavoittelun kohde sekä keskeinen osa omakuvaa.

Uhriposition tekee Campbellin ja Manningin mukaan houkuttelevaksi se, että uhriuden avulla on mahdollista saavuttaa moraalinen ylemmyys niin suhteessa vääryyden tekijöihin kuin niihin kaikkiin muihinkin, jotka eivät ole vastaavalla tavalla kärsineet. Muilla on moraalinen velvollisuus kuunnella uhria ja pyrkiä hyvittämään hänen kokemansa vääryydet.

Uhriudesta on tullut sädekehä, jonka saavuttamisesta jopa kilpaillaan. Yleisöön vedotaan oman uhriaseman vahvistamiseksi ja pönkittämiseksi. Aiemmin tällainen olisi tuomittu säälin kerjäämisenä. Esimerkiksi suomalaisessa kulttuurissa ei perinteisesti ole kärsityistä vääryyksistä julkisesti huudeltu, vaan on purtu hammasta ja jalostettu kovat koettelemukset näyttämisenhaluksi, joskus kostonhimoksikin.

"Muistakaa pojat, maailma ei ole teille mitään velkaa", opasti minua ja kavereitani monenlaista vaikeutta kohdannut kylänmies 1980-luvulla. "Sääli on sairautta", kuului sanontakin. Varsinkin sotasukupolven miehille ja naisille oli kunnia-asia olla turhista valittamatta. Monilla tämä liiankin pitkälle, eli ei pukahdettu silloinkaan, kun olisi pitänyt. Uhrin asemaa hävettiin ja itsesääliä pidettiin heikkoutena.

En kaipaa takaisin vanhan ajan kivikasvoista ankaruutta. Sen avulla kyllä mentiin läpi monen harmaan kiven, mutta samalla kertyi myös monenlaista patoutumaa ja käsittelemätöntä traumaa. Inhimillisyys ja myötätunto ovat tärkeitä asioita, eikä niitä edelleenkään mitenkään liiaksi ole.

Silti en ole ollenkaan varma, että nykyinen uhriuden jalustalle nostaminen olisi mitenkään hyvä tai terve kehityssuunta. Päinvastoin näen siinä jopa perverssejä piirteitä. On helppo havaita, että uhriutumiskilpailut kääntyvät äkkiä valtapeleiksi, manipulaatioksi ja politikoinniksi. Ylemmyydentunto houkuttaa ja koukuttaa, varsinkin jos sen kylkiäisinä vielä tulee erilaisia helpotuksia ja oikoteitä. Kaikki eivät kuitenkaan oikeasti ole uhreja.

On vaikeaa nähdä, että oman identiteetin rakentaminen uhristatukselle olisi kovinkaan järkevää. Uhrius on pohjimmiltaan voimattomuutta ja avuttomuutta. Uhrit nähdään helposti heikkoina ja toimintakyvyttöminä, kärsimiensä vääryyksien lamaannuttamina sekä itsestään vastuuta kantamaan kykenemättöminä ihmisparkoina.

Eikö olisi parempi pyrkiä estämään uhriuden kokemusta muodostumasta koko elämää hallitsevaksi ja aktiivista toimijuutta kahlitsevaksi voimaksi?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 29.10.2022, 15:54:08
Jo Enid Blytonin lastenkirjoissa oli raisu poikatyttö Paula/Pauli. Ja se nivoutui tarinaan ihan luonnollisesti. Nyt hänestä oltaisiin jo varmaan leikelty joku ihmisen irvikuva neopeniksineen, tatuoinneilla ja lävistyksillä. Sinistä tukkaa ja vastenmielistä asennoitumista unohtamatta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.10.2022, 16:24:09
Quote from: Dangr on 29.10.2022, 15:54:08
Jo Enid Blytonin lastenkirjoissa oli raisu poikatyttö Paula/Pauli. Ja se nivoutui tarinaan ihan luonnollisesti.

Tunnen aika paljon näitä tapauksia. Heistä tuli Audeilla ajavia pomoja ja hyviä perheenäitejä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 30.10.2022, 00:51:21
Joakim Vigeliuksen video:
Woke-ideologia yliopistoissa: miesten menkkoja, feminismin tuputusta ja "turvallisempia tiloja"
https://youtu.be/otr2cxficZY

Ivan Puopolon videolla on yhtenä aiheena wokeilu.
Viisastelu – Elon Musk osti Twitterin | Woke-hulluus valtasi yliopistot | EU varastaa Suomen metsät
https://youtu.be/GUXkwiuMSfQ
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 30.10.2022, 01:12:06
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9RAK7ndFeHQ
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.10.2022, 09:35:25
Quote from: https://www.facebook.com/ivan.puopolo/posts/pfbid0DyHALoUdrk3YtrpngJRm7ejgYGMnF7Fn3NYjQNFKHZttCCPHVecBzFN5vXvyGJ3QlIvan Puopolo
30.10.2022

Ben Zyskowiczin mukaan suomettuminen oli VAPAAEHTOISTA kilpailua siitä, kuka on eniten Neuvostoliiton ystävä. Mitä syvempään hegemonialle kumarsi, sitä suurempaa arvostusta vertaisiltaan sai.

Kyse oli itse rakennetusta nyökyttelyn kehästä, ajan hengen hurmoksesta.
Suomettuminen oli ja meni, mutta yhteisen kumartelun mekanismi pysyy. Vain kohde vaihtuu. Tämän ajan hurmoshenki kulkee nimellä "woke".

Samaan tapaan kuin suomettuminen oli lähinnä eliitin hölmöilyä, myös "wokeentuminen" tapahtuu enimmäkseen ylätasolla, kuten yliopistoissa.

Riippumatta siitä, kuinka älyttömiä biologian kieltäviä tai modernin rotuopin hyväksyviä johtopäätöksiä hurmoshenki edellyttää, mukana ollaan.

Mikään määrä koulutusta ei suojaa siltä, että suurimmalle osalle sosiaaliset palkinnot ovat arvokkaampia kuin älyllinen johdonmukaisuus.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 01.11.2022, 02:09:55
Uhkaako woke yliopistoja? Onko korjausliike mahdollinen?
https://youtu.be/2dknQNzeGCw
QuoteDosentti ja perussuomalaisten puoluesihteeri piti Helsingin yliopistossa luennon kutsuttuna. Millainen on 2030-luvun ihanne-Suomi? Millaista tiede- ja koulutuspolitiikkaa se tarvitsee päättäjiemme mielestä? Mikä on yliopiston rooli tulevaisuuden yhteiskunnassa ja miten se voi tehokkaimmin toimia maailman parhaaksi?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 01.11.2022, 22:03:17
Onni Ruotsilan vieraana Joakim Vigelius

Huonojen ideoiden yhteenliittymä "woke", jengirikollisuuden nousu ja Twitterin tulevaisuus | AOL #42
https://youtu.be/tCF5KRKnANM
QuoteSanna Ukkolan kolumnista käynnistyi kiivas keskustelu "wokesta", joka valtaa alaa ja vahtii mustasukkaisesti vääriä mielipiteitä. Samoin vakavan jengirikollisuuden kasvu Suomessa on noussut keskusteluun. Elon Musk sai Twitter-kaupat maaliin, mutta mitä seuraavaksi tapahtuu?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 04.11.2022, 06:50:11
Suomen Uutiset: THL:n "Tasa-arvotiedon keskuksesta" on tullut feministisen identiteettipolitiikan linnake – asiantuntijalääkärit ulos, identiteettipoliitikot sisään
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/thln-tasa-arvotiedon-keskuksesta-on-tullut-feministisen-identiteettipolitiikan-linnake-asiantuntijalaakarit-ulos-identiteettipoliitikot-sisaan/
QuoteTHL:n "Tasa-arvotiedon keskuksesta" on tullut feministisen identiteettipolitiikan linnake – asiantuntijalääkärit ulos, identiteettipoliitikot sisään

2010-luvulla taloudelliset syyt ajoivat Terveyden ja hyvinvoinnin laitoksen irtisanomaan noin kolmanneksen asiantuntijoistaan. Tämän aiheuttama osaamisvaje paljastui koronakriisin aikaan. Kun THL irtisanoi asiantuntijalääkäreitään, organisaatiossa nousi uusi, woke-henkistä identiteettipoliittista aktivismia edustanut Tasa-arvotiedon keskus. Keskuksen nettisivut ja sen provokatiivinen Twitter-tili muistuttavat enemmän feminististä ajatushautomoa kuin valtiollista virkamiesviestintää. THL:n alaisuudesta mainostetaan kiisteltyä intersektionaalista feminismiä, sille ominaista ideologista sanastoa, poliittista aktivismia ja mm. mies-päätteisistä sanoista luopumista. Tasa-arvon hengessä kaikki laitoksen työntekijät ovat naisia.
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THL:n feministinen aktivismi ei ole jäänyt vain Twitter-provosoinnin tasolle. Tätä nykyä Tasa-arvotiedon keskus on yksi asiantuntijaorganisaatio THL:n näkyvimmistä ja provosoivimmista osastoista. Viime vuosina sen nettisivuilla on omaksuttu tasa-arvon määritelmäksi maailmalla paljon kiistelty intersektionaalinen feminismi. Myös Suomessa ideologia on herättänyt viime vuosina kriittistä keskustelua, sillä sen nähdään tavoittelevan epävirallista uhrihierarkiaa.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.11.2022, 21:29:06
Quote from: https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/tasta-syysta-sinulle-jatkuvasti-vaitetaan-etta-woke-ilmiota-ei-ole-olemassakaan/marraskuu 05, 202214:33
Yliopistoissa kiehuu: Tästä syystä sinulle väitetään, että woke-ilmiötä ei ole olemassakaan – "on mahdotonta vastustaa ilmiötä, jolle ei ole annettu nimeä"
...
Kun jokin ajatussuunta tai ideologia on nimetty ja sille on määritelty sisältö, nimeäminen antaa mahdollisuuden erottaa idea muiden ideoiden joukosta, tarkastella sitä läheltä ja esittää kritiikkiä sitä kohtaan. Tätä woke-väki ei halua sallia tapahtuvan.

Vaikka ilmiön olemassaolon on tunnistettu vastaavan todellisuutta, ilmiön kritisointi ja epäkohtien esille nostaminen on tietenkin vaikeaa, jos ilmiölle ei ole nimeä.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1566514815937421317
Wokal Distance @wokal_distance
1/
It isn't "Woke"
It isn't "Critical Race Theory"
It isn't "Socialism"
It isn't "Critical Social Justice"
It isn't "Neo-marxism"
It isn't "Cultural Marxism"
It isn't "political correctness"

Why you aren't allowed to give *IT* a name,

Pitkä juttu woken historiasta:

"... their purpose is to poison the well and block progress. "

https://thewatsonseven.bulletin.com/you-can-t-define-woke-so-i-will/

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.11.2022, 23:09:46
Omimisen väittäminen on rasismia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.11.2022, 23:44:07
[tweet]1588689667569819648[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.11.2022, 00:41:05
John Cleese's War on Wokeism
https://youtu.be/mBf6kJIbXLg?t=823

Video lähtee kohdasta jossa wokesta puhutaan. Käsikirjoittaja-näyttelijä John Cleese (mm. Monty Python) on sekä hauska, että älykäs mies. Luovuudesta puhutaan paljon, ja siitä miten woke rajoittaa luovuutta.

A FISH CALLED WANDA (1988) | Don't Call Me Stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b_bvbWJpso
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.11.2022, 16:02:23
[tweet]1589150575878635521[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.11.2022, 16:15:52
Demokraatit haluavat anarkiaa USAn kaupunkien kaduille.

[tweet]1588949922468237312[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 06.11.2022, 17:41:14
Seuraava liittynee wokeiluun, hyvää pohdiskelua Suomalaisesta yliopisto maailmasta.
https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/edistaako-turvallinen-tila-tiedetta/#d40946d0
QuoteNiin kutsutut turvalliset tilat yliopistolla eivät välttämättä edistä tieteellistä ajattelua – paremminkin päinvastoin.

Jos tieteen tehtäväksi katsotaan uuden, toden tiedon löytäminen, pitäisi kampusten tarjota opiskelijoilleen nimenomaan "vaarallisia" tiloja, koska se on mielen arvartumisen edellytys.

Tämä ja monta muuta kiinnostavaa näkökulmaa nousi esiin Tieteiden Talolla seminaarissa, jonka nimi oli "Vaikeat aiheet koulutuksessa". Paikalla oli sekä tutkijoita että opettajia niin yliopistoista kuin kouluistakin.

Keskustelua herätti erityisesti dogmatiikan yliopistonlehtori Olli-Pekka Vainion puheenvuoro. Vainio on työssään tutkinut muun muassa erimielisyyden yhteiskunnallisia hyötyjä.

Tilaisuudessa on kuulemma ollut melkomoinen läpätys ja pöyristymisiäkin on havaittu.
QuoteToisaalta juuri USA:sta on noussut vastaliikekin. Vainio viittaa esimerkiksi Chicagon yliopiston johdon muutaman vuoden takaiseen julkilausumaan, joka vaati ajattelun ja puheen vapauden vaalimista senkin uhalla, että jollekulle tulee "epämiellyttävä olo". Tähän mennessä lähes sata muuta amerikkalaisyliopistoa on allekirjoittanut julistuksen.

Vainio kehottaakin pohtimaan, ketkä oikeastaan kuuluvat vähemmistöihin, ketkä enemmistöihin, ja kuka käyttää minkäkinlaista valtaa.

– Usein ajatellaan vaikkapa professorin olevan valta-asemassa nuoreen opiskelijaan nähden. Toisaalta tiedämme, että joukko 20-vuotiaita voi saada erotettua professorin, jonka näkemyksistä eivät pidä. Kuka siis on altavastaaja?
Mistään ei saa puhua, varsinkaan maahanmuuttoon, islamiin jne. liittyvistä negatiivisista asioista.
QuoteMoni yliopistotutkija kertoo kahdenkeskisissä keskusteluissa, että konservatiivisina pidettyjä filosofioita, tutkimusasetelmia tai -kysymyksiä ei kampuksilla hyväksytä, mistä kärsii sekä tiede että työpaikan ilmapiiri. Tämä ei liene yllätys, kuten ei sekään, että julkisesti, saati omalla nimellä tätä ei haluta sanoa. Ei edes vaikeita aiheita käsittelevän seminaarin yhteydessä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 06.11.2022, 18:40:02
Yliopistolaitos ylipäätään on täysi vitsi, ja on ollut sitä pitkään. Woke vaan oikein alleviivaa sitä mitä se "tutkijoidensa" johdolla on.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Hoosua on 06.11.2022, 18:50:36
Itse olen miettinyt sitä, voisiko tulevaisuudessa humanististen tieteiden ja ihmistieteiden näyttämön ottaa yliopiston ulkopuoliset tahot jossain määrin. Nythän on Quorassa ja youtubessa valtavan laadukasta sisältöä fiksuilta tyypeiltä saatavilla.

Humanististen alojen tutkimushan perustuu paljolti kirjallisuuden ja tutkimusten lukemiseen, ajatusten vaihtoon. Jos nuo yhdistää fiksuun päähän, niin tuloksena on hyvää tutkimusta. Kun lähteet ovat kaikkien käytettävissä ja kun vapaa-aika lisääntyy automaation myötä, monelle fiksulle ihmiselle tulee mahdollisuus oman tutkimuksen tekoon ja ajatusten vaihtoon toisten kanssa.

Miten yliopistotutkimus eroaisi humanistisilla aloilla jonkun fiksun ihmisen tekemästä tutkimuksesta, jos molemmilla on kaikki lähteet sähköisesti käytettävissä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 06.11.2022, 19:42:42
Quote from: Hoosua on 06.11.2022, 18:50:36
Itse olen miettinyt sitä, voisiko tulevaisuudessa humanististen tieteiden ja ihmistieteiden näyttämön ottaa yliopiston ulkopuoliset tahot jossain määrin. Nythän on Quorassa ja youtubessa valtavan laadukasta sisältöä fiksuilta tyypeiltä saatavilla.

Humanististen alojen tutkimushan perustuu paljolti kirjallisuuden ja tutkimusten lukemiseen, ajatusten vaihtoon. Jos nuo yhdistää fiksuun päähän, niin tuloksena on hyvää tutkimusta. Kun lähteet ovat kaikkien käytettävissä ja kun vapaa-aika lisääntyy automaation myötä, monelle fiksulle ihmiselle tulee mahdollisuus oman tutkimuksen tekoon ja ajatusten vaihtoon toisten kanssa.

Miten yliopistotutkimus eroaisi humanistisilla aloilla jonkun fiksun ihmisen tekemästä tutkimuksesta, jos molemmilla on kaikki lähteet sähköisesti käytettävissä.

Ei tule toimimaan, koska aina on ollut niin että joe bidenit keräävät omaisuudet äärimmäisellä korruptiolla, ja valehtelulla. Siihen ei sovi, että millään taholla, joka ei hypi noiden pillin tahdissa saisi mitään valtaa. Nyt ja tulevaisuudessa pahoilla ihmisillä on aina ylivoima tuhota hyvät. Tämä koska heillä ei ole mitään pidäkkeitä toimissaan. Saman tien, jos joku Quora tms. saisi aitoa vaikutusta aikaan se hiljennettäisiin. Ei sovi vallanpitäjien agendaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 14.11.2022, 15:00:10
Hyvät naiset ja miehet, nyt on tarjolla musta joutsen: Helsingin Yliopiston julkaisu

Uusi rodullistamisoppi ja "valkoisen ylivallan" harha,
kirjoittajana tohtori Ari Helo (Department of Cultures Doctoral Programme in Political, Soci­etal and Regional Change)

Minulle on epäselvää onko tämä osa tutkimuksesta vai mitä, mutta julkaisu alkaa sivulta 64.

Mystisen katoamisen varalta lisäsin kirjoituksen liitetiedostoksi. Tässä on eräänlainen yhteenveto ja johtopäätökset. Varsinaisia sivuja on 37, ja ne ovat enimmäkseen täyttä asiaa, vaikka ovatkin osittain turhan kankeatieteellistä tekstiä. Numerologina lisäsin tähän numeroinnin.

Quote from: https://tuhat.helsinki.fi/ws/portalfiles/portal/235961684/Helo_2022_Rodullistamisoppi_ja_valkoisen_ylivallan_harha_Metodologia_III.pdf
Lopuksi

Olen vasta aloittamassa aiheesta erillistä monografiaa, mutta edellä on vähintäänkin
alustavalla tavalla osoitettu

1) uuden kriittisen rotututkimuksen olevan tietämätön yhteiskuntarakenteen käsitteestä,

2) saati että se osaisi erottaa sen mielenrakenteista tai yhteiskuntarakenteet ne ehdollistavista yleisistä asenteista tai vaikkapa oikeuspoliittisista linjauksista, joita oikeuslaitosvaltarakenteena toteuttaa.

3) Samoin olen alustavalla tavalla osoittanut uuden rotutietoisuuden perustuvan
pseudotieteellisiin oletuksiin itse ihmismielen rakenteista
.

4) Lisäksi olen osoittanut keskeisen "valkoisen ylivallan" käsitteen harhaksi, joka juontuu sitä käyttävien tieteilijöidenhistoriattomasta lähestymistavasta ja ylipäätään vertailevan tutkimusotteen puutteesta, vaikka he tapaavatkin puhua koko länsimaisesta kulttuuripiiristä tämän hirmuisen ylivallan demonisena manifestaationa.

5) Lopuksi osoitin rotutietoisuuden papiston olevan täysin tietämätön tai välinpitämätön
nykydemokratiamme oikeusperiaatteista ja toimintaperiaatteista ja nämä periaatteet
mahdollistavasta keskustelukulttuurista ja sen sääntöperustasta
.

Kaikki absurdiudet uuden rotukeskeisen sosiaalipolitiikan luomiseksi on jo muotoiltu ja
osin pantu Yhdysvalloissa ja Kanadassa toimeenkin. Vain harva "valkoisen ylivallan"
historiasta, sosiologiasta, kulttuuritieteistä ja intersektionaalisesta paradigmasta puhunut
tutkija on väittänyt kaikkea sitä, mistä tätä yleistä tutkimuksellista lähestymistapaa nyt on
kritisoitu. Ongelma on hahmottaa tietoväitteet eri asiana kuin maailmanparantaminen.

"Ari Helo on suomalainen historioitsija, joka on erikoistunut Yhdysvaltojen aatehistoriaan. Helo valmistui maisteriksi Helsingin yliopistosta vuonna 1994 ja väitteli filosofian tohtoriksi Tampereen yliopistosta vuonna 1999 aiheenaan Thomas Jefferson." (Wikipedia)

Täältä löytyy lisää kirjoituksia, joiden otsikot ovat lupaavia:
https://www.helsinki.fi/fi/tutustu-meihin/ihmiset/henkilohaku/ari-helo-9016162

Blogi löytyy täältä: https://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/author/ari-helo/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 16.11.2022, 07:08:15
"Leninillä on niin suuri otsa
että siihen mahtuu koko maa ja taivaskin
ja Lenin-setä hymyilee ja silmät tuikkivat
ja hän nauraa niinkuin setä Ho-Chi-Minh"


Joskus Helsingissä Töölössä oli Kuu Kuu ravintola, siellä takahuoneessa, piilossa, oli hienoja reaalisosialismin maalaustaiteen tuotoksia. Muistan hyvän, missä lapset ja koirakin katsoivat ihailevasti setä Leninia.



Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 19.11.2022, 19:58:55
Quote
Suomessa ei ole tarpeeksi Suomi-vauvoja eikä Suomi-isiä – Ranne: "Kehotan woke-vouhottajia ja ilmastopaniikin lietsojia katsomaan sydämeensä, mitä on tullut tehtyä"

Suomessa vietetään lauantaina 19.11. miestenpäivää ja sunnuntaina 20.11. lapsen oikeuksien päivää. Näiden päivien kunniaksi perussuomalaisten eduskuntaryhmän 2. varapuheenjohtaja Lulu Ranne tarkastelee, mitä Suomen miehille ja lapsille kuuluu.

– Päinvastoin kuin ajan woke-hengestä voisi päätellä, miehiä tarvitaan edelleen lasten tekoon ja kasvattamiseen sekä yhteiskunnan pyörittämiseen yleensäkin, sanoo kansanedustaja Lulu Ranne.

Ranne listaa, miten 50 vuotta sitten Suomeen syntyi tammi-syyskuussa 45 237 vauvaa, tänä vuonna 34 227 eli 11 010 vauvaa vähemmän. Syntyvyys on mittaushistorian alhaisin. Jotain on maailman onnellisimmassa maassa pielessä. Ajan henki myös on, ettei monien ongelmien perimmäisiä syitä haluta nähdä, koska sisimmässään ymmärretään syiden olevan omassa politiikassa.

– Suomessa ei ole tarpeeksi Suomi-vauvoja eikä tarpeeksi Suomi-isiä.


Ilmastoahdistus aiheuttaa keinottomuuden tunnetta

Ranne huomauttaa, että terapiahavaintojen mukaan lisääntynyt ilmastoahdistus aiheuttaa keinottomuuden tunnetta. Maailman väitetään tuhoutuvan, joten miksi hankkia perhettä, ehkä edes ammattia?

Lapsiasiavaltuutetun vuoden 2022 kertomuksen mukaan viidesosa 18–45-vuotiaista ei halua lapsia. Itsekkäiden syiden jälkeen kolmanneksi ja neljänneksi tärkeimpinä mainittiin "maapallon kantokyky ei kestä lisää ihmisiä" (54 %) ja "lapsettomuus on ilmastoteko" (46 %). Tätä mieltä olivat erityisesti Etelä-Suomessa asuvat 25–35-vuotiaat.

– Työeläkeyhtiö Varman toimitusjohtajan Risto Murron mukaan kolmannes 40–45-vuotiaista suomalaismiehistä on lapsettomia. Usein he ovat vain peruskoulun varassa. Peruskoulun varaan jääneiden nuorten miesten hedelmällisyysluku on vain 1, kun naisten luku on sekin alhainen 1,35. Miksi pojat syrjäytyvät jo peruskoulussa?


Miehille kostamiselle ei ole perusteita

Ranne toteaakin suomalaisia heteromiehiä syrjivää ilmapiiriä sekä ilmastopaniikkia lietsovien tahojen kantavan tilanteesta vastuun. Miehille kostamiselle tai ilmastopaniikille ei ole mitään perusteita.

– Suomi on sukupuolten mahdollisuuksien suhteen Islannin jälkeen maailman toiseksi tasa-arvoisin maa. Tasa-arvoisessa maassa pojankin pitäisi voida kasvaa hyvän itsetunnon omaavaksi, kunnioituksen ansaitsevaksi, rakastetuksi ja rakastavaksi, lapsia hankkivaksi ja töitä tekeväksi mieheksi. Tulevaisuutta rakentavaksi mieheksi.

Ranteen mukaan Suomen luonnon kantokykyä kuvaava biokapasiteetti on parhaiten säilynyt koko planeetalla ja elättäisi yli kaksinkertaisen väestön. Ilmasto ei uhkaa olemassaoloamme. Me suomalaiset huolehdimme tietenkin luonnostamme, mutta EU:n reservaatiksi muuttumalla sekä omaa kansaamme ja talouttamme tuhoamalla emme pelasta ketään.

– Kehotankin woke-vouhottajia ja ilmastopaniikin lietsojia katsomaan sydämeensä, mitä on tullut tehtyä.


Lapsen saaminen on suurin lahja

Ranne kannustaa Suomen nuoria perheitä kohtaamaan lastensa, myös poikien, huolet ja valamaan heihin tulevaisuuden uskoa ja tahtoa. Nuorten miesten ja naisten kannattaa luottaa itseensä ja tulevaisuuteen ja hankkia lapsia, jos se vain on mahdollista. Lapsen saaminen on suurin lahja, ei itsestäänselvyys.

– Suomi on suomalaisille maailman paras maa, eikä lapsilla ole missään parempaa mahdollisuutta kasvaa hyvinvoiviksi Suomen rakentajiksi ja elää täyttä ja onnellista elämää.

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/suomessa-ei-ole-tarpeeksi-suomi-vauvoja-eika-suomi-isia-ranne-kehotan-woke-vouhottajia-ja-ilmastopaniikin-lietsojia-katsomaan-sydameensa-mita-on-tullut-tehtya/

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.11.2022, 17:42:48
Quote from: https://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/mikkopaunio/hups-maailman-talousfoorumin-wef-dystooppinen-suuri-resetti-taisi-juuri-sortua-omaan-napparyyteensa/LÄNNEN ELIITTIWOKEKRIITIKOILTA TUORE TÄYSTYRMÄYS MAAILMAN TALOUSFOORUMIN (WEF) SUURELLE RESETILLE

USA:ssa on ilmestynyt tänä syksynä kirja "Suurta resettiä vastaan – 18 teesiä Uutta maailmanjärjestystä vastaan" (engl. Against The Great Reset – Eighteen Theses Contra The New World Order, Bombardier, New York 2022). Sen kirjoittajat ovat läntisen maailman konservatiiviajattelijoiden ja journalistien kermaa.

Loput linkistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.11.2022, 14:00:23
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.11.2022, 17:42:48
Quote from: https://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/mikkopaunio/hups-maailman-talousfoorumin-wef-dystooppinen-suuri-resetti-taisi-juuri-sortua-omaan-napparyyteensa/LÄNNEN ELIITTIWOKEKRIITIKOILTA TUORE TÄYSTYRMÄYS MAAILMAN TALOUSFOORUMIN (WEF) SUURELLE RESETILLE

USA:ssa on ilmestynyt tänä syksynä kirja "Suurta resettiä vastaan – 18 teesiä Uutta maailmanjärjestystä vastaan" (engl. Against The Great Reset – Eighteen Theses Contra The New World Order, Bombardier, New York 2022). Sen kirjoittajat ovat läntisen maailman konservatiiviajattelijoiden ja journalistien kermaa.

Loput linkistä.

Sensuroitu. Tässä uusi linkki:

https://www.extrauutiset.fi/kirja-arvostelu-suurta-resettia-vastaan-18-teesia-uutta-maailmanjarjestysta-vastaan/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 24.11.2022, 15:08:42
https://youtu.be/nGzmxxgK7R4

Tuossapa eilinen Puopolo. Jarkko Tontti ja Samuli Suonpää keskustelevat wokelluksesta.

Mikäs sankari, tämä Suonpää oikein muuten on?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 27.11.2022, 12:15:23
Jenkeissä yliopistojen opetustoimia hakevien on hyvin usein jätettävä nk. DEI-statement (diversity, equity, inclusion), jossa kertoo, mitä on tehnyt ja tulee tekemään työpaikan moninaisuuden, oikeudenmukaisuuden ja inkluusion eteen (suomeksi MOI).  Sillä on ilmeisen tärkeä osuus rekrytointiprosessissa, eli jos ei ole noissa toiminnoissa riittävän ansioitunut, ylivoimainen substanssin hallintakaan ei takaa työpaikan saantia.

Woke-sekoilua aikaisemminkin paljon ihmetellyt (liberaali) biologian emeritusprofessori Jerry Coyne kertoo esimerkillä, kuinka moinen on tuottanut valmentavaa toimintaa, jossa hakijaa prepataan tekemään sellaisia MOI-julistuksia, jotka edesauttavat työllistymistä.  Professori itse kertoo, että jos MOI-julistuksia olisi vaadittu hänen nuoruudessaan, hän olisi päätynyt paistamaan työkseen hampurilaisia.

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2022/11/26/mit-tells-prospective-faculty-how-to-write-a-successful-diversity-statement/

Otteita ohjeistuksesta MOI-julistusta varten:

QuoteAs such, a diversity statement should not focus on your own experience but rather your intentions as a professor. It should demonstrate that you are familiar with the importance of DEI issues, outline your experience working with diverse groups and advancing DEI, and identify ways that you will use your position as a leader in your field to have an impact within your community. .

QuoteIt is not sufficient to demonstrate knowledge about diversity, equity, and inclusion; your statement should also show experience with them. While this need not be a separate section, your statement should make it clear that you have not only thought about DEI in the abstract but have applied that knowledge and are prepared to continue doing so in the future.

Saa nähdä, milloin suomalaiset oppilaitokset rupeavat edellyttämään MOI-julistuksia osana rekrytointia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2022, 22:20:34
Voisiko tämä sopia tänne. Persujen tuubikanavalta tämmöinen:

Kiihkeä aikalaishulluus palasi - ex-vihreät kertovat ilmiöstä
https://youtu.be/BsuH03AJZrE
QuoteMeillä on asiaa -jaksossa käsitellään jälleen palaavaa aikalaishulluutta. Vieraina kirjailija, oikeustieteen tohtori Jarkko Tontti ja toimittaja-kirjailija Jussi K. Niemelä. Ohjelman juontaa toimittaja Maria Asunta.

Muistaakseni Jarkko Tontilla on syntilista siinä että vaati sananvapauden rajoittamista. Taisi olla silloin mukana vihreissä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.11.2022, 22:39:06
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2022, 22:20:34
Kiihkeä aikalaishulluus palasi - ex-vihreät kertovat ilmiöstä
https://youtu.be/BsuH03AJZrE

Tämä on aika hyvä, mutta kestää melkein tunnin.

Woke = uusherännäsyys
Cancel = poliittinen savustus
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 28.11.2022, 00:13:40
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.11.2022, 22:39:06
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 27.11.2022, 22:20:34
Kiihkeä aikalaishulluus palasi - ex-vihreät kertovat ilmiöstä
https://youtu.be/BsuH03AJZrE

Tämä on aika hyvä, mutta kestää melkein tunnin.

Woke = uusherännäsyys
Cancel = poliittinen savustus

EU taitaa olla Jarkko Tontin sokea piste. Muuten hyvä esiintyminen molemmilla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 29.11.2022, 04:57:00
Quote from: Siili on 27.11.2022, 12:15:23
Jenkeissä yliopistojen opetustoimia hakevien on hyvin usein jätettävä nk. DEI-statement (diversity, equity, inclusion), jossa kertoo, mitä on tehnyt ja tulee tekemään työpaikan moninaisuuden, oikeudenmukaisuuden ja inkluusion eteen (suomeksi MOI).  Sillä on ilmeisen tärkeä osuus rekrytointiprosessissa, eli jos ei ole noissa toiminnoissa riittävän ansioitunut, ylivoimainen substanssin hallintakaan ei takaa työpaikan saantia.

Huh huh. No, toisaalta ne mitkä osaa, osaa. Ne mitkä ei osaa, opettaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.11.2022, 16:18:53
Tässä USAn apulaisministeri, joka vastaa käytetyn ydinpolttoaineen turvallisesta välivarastoinnista. Pitäisikö huolestua?

Quote from: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/11/28/genderfluid-biden-official-sam-brinton-allegedly-stole-womans-luggage/'Genderfluid' Biden Official Sam Brinton Chared with Stealing a Woman's Luggage

28 Nov 20221

"Openly genderfluid" Sam Brinton, the MIT grad who joined the Joe Biden administration earlier this year as the deputy assistant secretary of the Office of Spent Fuel and Waste Disposition in the U.S. Department of Energy, was charged with a felony last month for allegedly stealing a woman's luggage.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 30.11.2022, 10:08:54
Mitä mieltä Hommalla ollaan siitä muistuttaako woke stalinismia, maolaisuutta vai trotskilaisuutta? Onko siinä piirteitä kaikista noista kommunismin suuntauksista?

Neuvostoliitossa oli näytösoikeudenkäynnit ja pakotettu itsekritiikki.

Maon Kiinassa oli julkinen häpäisy ja pakotettu itsekritiikki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-criticism_(Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-criticism_(Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism))

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 30.11.2022, 11:03:12
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 30.11.2022, 10:08:54
Mitä mieltä Hommalla ollaan siitä muistuttaako woke stalinismia, maolaisuutta vai trotskilaisuutta?

Maolaisuutta Punaisten Khmerien toteuttamalla tavalla.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punaiset_khmerit

Quote from: WikipediaPol Potin johtamien punakhmerien tavoitteena oli luoda maahan utopistinen agraariyhteiskunta tuhoamalla kaupunkien keskiluokka, jonka tuhkasta nousisi tulevaisuuden uusi ihminen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 30.11.2022, 13:11:11
Anna Krylov on kalifornialainen yliopistoprofessori (kemia), joka muutti USA:han Venäjältä 90-luvun alkupuolella, opintojensa jälkeen.  Hän on ottanut selkeästi kantaa woke-sekoilua vastaan mielipidekirjoituksilla, joissa hän peilaa nykymeininkiä anglosaksissa opinahjoissa meininkiin ammoisen Neuvostoliiton vastaavissa.  Hän käsittelee tilannetta nimen omaan "kovissa" tieteissä, joissa luulisi päästävän lähemmäksi objektiivisuuden ihannetta kuin humanistisella puolella.

https://hxstem.substack.com/p/from-russia-with-love-science-and

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acs.jpclett.1c01475

Artikkeleista on vaikea poimia tänne mitään edustavia herkkupaloja.  Suosittelen niiden lukemista kokonaan, etenkin jos on vielä siinä harhaluulossa, että woke-sekoilu rajoittuu humanistisille aloille.

Löysin ensiksi mainitun linkin Jerry Coynen sivulta.  Hänellä on lainauksiakin:

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2022/11/29/ideology-keeps-sticking-its-nose-into-science/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 13.12.2022, 17:38:05
 Ei helvetissä ;D  ;D

https://twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1602585113149292544
[tweet]1602585113149292544[/tweet]
QuoteEXCLUSIVE: A Norwegian woman is facing criminal charges for stating men can not be lesbians.

Tonje Gjevjon is the second woman in the country to be investigated for criminal "transphobia" in 2022. She faces a potential prison sentence of three years.

Quotereduxx.info (https://reduxx.info/men-are-men-norwegian-artist-facing-criminal-charges-potential-prison-sentence-over-gender-comments/)
"Men Are Men": Norwegian Artist Facing Criminal Charges, Potential Prison Sentence Over Gender...
A woman in Norway is facing criminal charges and a possible prison sentence of up to three years for stating that men can not be lesbians. Tonje Gjevjon, a lesbian artist, was notified on November 17...

Lisätty linkki ja tekstilainaus.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 16.12.2022, 22:04:46
Woke yliopistoissa ja yhteiskunnassa (Joakim Vigelius & Samuli Suonpää) | Puheenaihe 298
https://youtu.be/-DLhqIifVDM
QuoteMitä woke on? Millä tavoin woke näkyy yliopistoissa, mediassa ja muualla yhteiskunnassa? Miten sananvapaus, tasa-arvo ja turvalliset tilat liittyvät wokeen ja mikä yhteys on identiteettipolitiikalla ja wokella?

Studiossa vieraina perussuomalaisten nuorten varapuheenjohtaja Joakim Vigelius ja toimittaja Samuli Suonpää. Jakso on nauhoitettu 17.11.2022.

0:00 Mitä woke tarkoittaa?
3:26 Woke-identiteetti
6:48 Oskari Lahtisen tutkimus
8:17 Woken merkitys
14:56 Tasa-arvo
16:45 Kuka saa puhua?
20:27 Yliopisto
24:49 Afrikan Tähti
29:45 Miesten kuukautiset
30:38 Turvalliset tilat
35:23 Puhujat yliopistolla
42:43 Julkiset instituutiot
46:19 Kirkko
47:48 Woke mediassa
52:46 Identiteettipolitiikka

Huomautus tuohon tekstiin että Joakim Vigelius on persunuorten uusi puheenjohtaja. Ohjelman nauhoituksissa hän oli varapuheenjohtaja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 18.12.2022, 13:36:59
QuoteTosissaan hauska

Kulttuurivieras Niina Lahtinen tuntuu olevan kaikkialla. Monia se raivostuttaa – äänekkyys ja hauskuus eivät Lahtisen mukaan ole perinteisesti olleet naisen lajeja.

Niina Lahtinen on aina ollut tosi huono pysymään ruodussa.

Lahtinen oli Putouksen käsikirjoittaja-ohjaaja kolmen vuoden ajan. Tammikuussa alkavalla 15. kaudella hänen pitäisi oppia olemaan "vain" juontaja. Ihan kuin se olisi mahdollista ihmiselle, joka tursuaa ideoita ja mielipiteitä.

Välillä hänen vahvaa ohjaajaidentiteettiään on siedetty paremmin, välillä huonommin. Joskus hänelle on sanottu suoraan, että voisit nyt vain hoitaa sen oman tonttisi näyttelijänä.

– Onneksi Putouksen uusi ohjaaja Antti Tuomas Heikkinen on hyvä ystäväni. Sanoin, että mulle voi todeta, että kiitos Niina ideoista, nyt riittää, älä tallo varpaille.

Muun muassa Siskonpedin ja Rakkaiden lasten käsikirjoittajana sekä Hyvien ja huonojen uutisten räväkkänä panelistina Lahtinen on osoittanut, ettei mikään ole hänelle pyhää.

Ja on silti.

Etenkin Putouksen tekijänä hän ymmärtää vastuunsa.
Koko perheen viihdeohjelmaa katsovat lauantai-iltaisin myös lapset.

– Olen katsonut Putousta lasteni kanssa kun he olivat pieniä. Tunnen nahoissani millaista on, kun kahdeksanvuotias kysyy, että äiti, mitä toi tarkoittaa. En halua sinne mitään sellaista sisältöä.

[...]

Hänen mielestään mitä tahansa voi ja pitää rienata.

Näkökulmaa on silti syytä miettiä. Ei esimerkiksi ole enemmistön asia ulista siitä, että vähemmistöä harmittaa rasistinen läppä.

– Taannoin ravintolasta lähtiessä pahoittelin tummaihoiselle työntekijälle sitä, miten hirveän sotkun jätimme taaksemme. Hän totesi, että "meidän väriset" ovat tosi hyviä siivoamaan. Hänelle on lupa heittää tuollaista. Minulla ei, eikä pidäkään.

Enemmistön asia on kuunnella ja ottaa opiksi. Sitä paitsi Lahtisen mielestä keski-ikäisen, valkoisen, suhteellisen etuoikeutetun cis-heteronaisen elämä tarjoaa ihan riittämiin materiaalia ja siitä ammentelu on turvallista.

On sketsejä, joita en ikinä enää tekisi, Siskonpedissäkin. Ajat muuttuvat ja onneksi opitaan. En kerro, mitä ne ovat, koska muuten kaikki googlaisivat ne esiin.
Yle (https://yle.fi/a/74-20008471) 18.12.2022
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 18.12.2022, 23:11:04
Puopolon kanavalta

"Woke on rotuoppia!" – "Sekoitat käsitteet!" | Jarkko Tontti VS. Samuli Suonpää 23.11.2022
https://youtu.be/nGzmxxgK7R4
Quote0:00:00 Alku
0:01:25 Mitä on identiteettipolittiikka?
0:15:38 Onko woke modernia rotuoppia?
0:20:48 Yliopistot woken tuotantolaitoksina
0:28:35 Onko woke modernia rotuoppia?
0:37:28 Uus-suomettuminen ja itsesensuuri vallitsee
0:51:00 Feministit eivät edistä tasa-arvoa edistä vaan omia etujaan
0:53:42 Median poliittinen kallistuma on vasemmalle

Ivanin yksinpuhelu
Woke lipui peruskoulun opetukseen – oppikirjassa kannatetaan hallituksen tavoitetta 29.11.2022
https://youtu.be/ZOd9kvlaGuE

Viisasteluklubi: Yleltä rahat pois! | Hallitus taas kriisissä | Alakoululaiset wokettajien kohteena 2.12.2022
https://youtu.be/J0BOwMO4fMc
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jaakko Sivonen on 18.12.2022, 23:27:37
Amerikkalainen yliopisto leimasi paikallisen leipomon rasistiseksi ilman perusteita. Joutui maksamaan 36 miljoonan dollarin korvaukset kunnianloukkauksesta.

Quote from: Fox NewsOberlin College pays bakery it called 'racist' over $36 million after years-long defamation lawsuit

Gibson's Bakery and Food Mart received $36.6 million from Oberlin College

[...] In 2016, Allyn Gibson, the son of Gibson's Bakery and Food Mart owners David Gibson and Allyn Gibson, chased and tackled a Black student who was suspected of stealing a bottle of wine on Nov. 9, 2016. Two students at Oberlin College, who are also Black and were friends with the student who stole the bottle, got involved in the incident, which became physical.

[...] The three students were arrested and pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges, court documents state.

[...] Oberlin College students protested outside the bakery following the shoplifting incident. During a protest, former Oberlin College vice president and dean of students Meredith Raimondo handed out flyers stating that the bakery was a "RACIST establishment with a LONG ACCOUNT of RACIAL PROFILING and DISCRIMINATION," according to court documents.

College resources were also used to print flyers and buy food and other supplies to support the protesters. The school also stopped buying food from the bakery.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/oberlin-college-pays-bakery-called-racist-36-million-years-long-appeal-defamation-lawsuit
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Fiftari on 20.12.2022, 19:50:42
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Jos ette vielä ole katselleen critical drinkerin youtube kanavaa niin suosittelen
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Boon Choo on 21.12.2022, 11:07:12
Quote from: Fiftari on 20.12.2022, 19:50:42
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Jos ette vielä ole katselleen critical drinkerin youtube kanavaa niin suosittelen

Eikös tämä eka twiittaaja ole jo lähtökohdiltaan väärässä? Kaikki aitojen Navi näyttelijät taitavat olla poc. Ainoat valkoiset näyttelevät feikki Navi.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.12.2022, 22:54:16
Kiellettyjen sanojen listaa kasvatetaan, jotta puheen ymmärtämisestä tulisi entistä vaikeampaa. Linkki postauksen lopussa näyttää esimerkkejä.

Quote from: https://itcommunity.stanford.edu/news/introducing-elimination-harmful-language-initiative-websiteIntroducing the Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative Website
Friday, May 20, 2022

The Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative (EHLI) is a multi-phase, multi-year project to address harmful language in IT at Stanford. EHLI is one of the actions prioritized in the Statement of Solidarity and Commitment to Action, which was published by the Stanford CIO Council and People of Color in Technology (POC-IT) affinity group in December 2020 as part of the IDEAL IT strategic initiative.
...
Organization of the EHLI website

Terms on the website are grouped into categories: Ableist, Ageism, Culturally Appropriative, Gender-based, Imprecise Language, Institutionalized Racism, Person-First, and Violent. Terms that don't fit into any of those categories are gathered under "Additional Considerations."

If you wish to search for a specific term, click the "Expand all categories" button above the list of categories and then search through your browser. Click the "Collapse all categories" button to close all categories at once. If you are interested in terms under a particular category, mouse over the category name, and then click to expand that section.
Small changes could make a huge difference

Have you ever seen, heard, or said:

    Walk-in Office Hours or Walk Up Support Hours? - A person who uses a wheelchair can't walk in or walk up, so consider using "open office hours" or "onsite support hours."

    That was insane! - This term trivializes the experiences of people living with mental health conditions, so consider using words such as surprising or wild.

    "X" holds the Tribal Knowledge around here. - This term trivializes the ancestral knowledge handed down through generations of indigenous peoples, so consider using the phrase institutional knowledge.

    An email domain or IP address being whitelisted or blacklisted? - These terms assign value connotations based on color (white = good and black = bad), an act which is subconsciously racialized; consider using the words allowlist and denylist.


We encourage you to evaluate the language you use and make changes where you can. Consider setting aside time for your team to review this website and other resources; reflecting individually on what language could be harmful in your area of work; and holding space for a discussion in a team meeting on changes you can make together.
...
https://sites.google.com/brandeis.edu/parcsuggestedlanguagelist/categories?pli=1

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.12.2022, 23:33:13
Edelliseen liittyvä keskustelu:
Stanford University Bans Long List Of "Harmful" Words (24:14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PM4NzoMBR4
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.12.2022, 07:38:38
Erittäin hauskaa hupailua woketuksen kustannuksella!

The Bee's Best of 2022 Video Compilation 48:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WR8wCcdB08
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 31.12.2022, 16:08:02
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 22.04.2022, 18:00:17
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 09.11.2021, 17:03:46
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 07.10.2021, 02:22:40
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 01.10.2021, 03:22:40
Eukko alkoi opiskelemaan uutta alaa ja siellä on queer-arkeologiaa, feminismi sitä ja tätä, ensimmäisenä opetettiin sukupuolia olevan lukuisia. Surullista nähdä omin silmin miten tämä syöpä on vallannut koko koululaitoksemme.
Nyt on tullut jo tehtäviksi kymmeniä sivuja kirjoitettavaa rasismista, kulttuurin omimisesta ym. hömpästä. Luentoja kuinka pahaa isänmaallisuus on ja kuinka pahoja "vahvat miehet" ovat. Suomalaisten vertausta fasistisiin natseihin koska venäläisiä kuoli vankileireillä.

Ei ihme kun noista laitoksista tulee ulos niin sekopäistä porukkaa. Jännityksellä odotan mitä seuraava viikko tuo tullessaan. :roll:
Hullummaksi vain menee nuo luennot, vasta pääaiheena oli demokratia, sisältö perustui Jean-Paul Sartren ajatuksiin ja lopulta luento kulminoitui ongelmalasisen kiihkofeministin kommunismin ihannointiin. Ovat ilmeisesti tiedostaneet kommunismin ikävän maineen kun sitä kutsuttiin jollain uudella hienolla termillä. Tuolla yliopistossa saa ilmeisesti käyttää vain marxilaisia lähteinä, muita kun ei ole vielä tullut vastaan. ;D
Pitkästä aikaa päivitystä, viimeksi käsiteltiin valkoisuutta. Tuli ne klassikot kuten "valkoinen ei voi kokea rasismia", "valkoinen on aina sortaja", "valkoinen on aina valta-asemassa", "valkoinen on aina etuoikeutettu", käytännössä katsoen opetettiin vihaamaan valkoisia. Ei ihme kun nuoret vasemmistotytöt ovat niin sekaisin tuommoisten luentojen jälkeen. Sitä minä ihmettelen miten kukaan voi uskoa tuommoista pseudotiedepaskaa, yliopistoihin taitaa nykyään päästä liikaa <100 ÄO porukkaa..
Sama meno jatkunut, nyt vielä vedetty uusi vaihde silmään ja alkanut tulla sähköposteja, että sukupuolentutkimuksen ja marxismin kursseja on tarjolla kaikille opiskelijoille. Tuo vasemmistopropaganda vedetty nyt niin tappiin, etten ihmettele jos kohta tulee vastaliike, olisikin kyllä jo sen aika.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 01.01.2023, 01:46:58
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 31.12.2022, 16:08:02

Sama meno jatkunut, nyt vielä vedetty uusi vaihde silmään ja alkanut tulla sähköposteja, että sukupuolentutkimuksen ja marxismin kursseja on tarjolla kaikille opiskelijoille. Tuo vasemmistopropaganda vedetty nyt niin tappiin, etten ihmettele jos kohta tulee vastaliike, olisikin kyllä jo sen aika.

Missä oppilaitoksessa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 02.01.2023, 19:26:38
 ;D

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.01.2023, 07:53:16
Psykologit vaativat Dr Jordan B Petersonia uudelleenkoulutusleirille. En ole ihan varma millä lihaksilla, mutta psykologin oikeudet uhkaavat viedä, jos ei suostu. Jatkuu seuraavassa numerossa! Stay tuned!

https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1610307938438053888

QuoteDr Jordan B Peterson
@jordanbpeterson

BREAKING: the Ontario College of Psychologists @CPOntario has demanded that I submit myself to mandatory social-media communication retraining with their experts for, among other crimes, retweeting @PierrePoilievre  and criticizing @JustinTrudeau and his political allies.

6:11 PM · Jan 3, 2023 | 14M Views  | 18.4K Retweets |4,567 Quote Tweets | 79.6K Likes

Jatkotwiitit liitteessä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 04.01.2023, 13:17:46
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.01.2023, 07:53:16
Psykologit vaativat Dr Jordan B Petersonia uudelleenkoulutusleirille. En ole ihan varma millä lihaksilla, mutta psykologin oikeudet uhkaavat viedä, jos ei suostu. Jatkuu seuraavassa numerossa! Stay tuned!

Jordan Peterson ei tarvitse uudelleenkoulutusta kun hänen käsityksensä internetin käyttäjien sananvapaudesta ja anonymiteetistä on tämä. Petersonin mielestä anonyymit sosiaalisen median käyttäjät ovat trolleja ja psykopaatteja.
QuoteDon't allow the anonymous troll-demons to post with the real verified people @elonmusk. Put them in their own hell, along with others like them: LOL LULZ BRO BRUH hyper-users are narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic and sadistic. Really: https://t.co/l4SLpzUwmn
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1593691037121228801

QuoteNo more cowardly anonymous troll demons. Or at least far fewer of them. $8 a month should be more than most of them can afford :)
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1598695958677958656

QuoteBy failing to separate the anonymous cowardly troll demons from real people in the comments section @youtube and other SM platforms are enabling sadistic Machiavellian psychopaths and narcissists
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1600329860638863360

QuoteMany trolls claim that anonymity protects their "free speech." In my experience, which is extensive, anonymity enables psychopathy far more than it frees invisible heroes. Contemptible cowards comprise the overwhelming majority...
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1600311826893316096
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.01.2023, 13:33:45
Quote from: Urban Moving Systems on 04.01.2023, 13:17:46
Jordan Peterson ei tarvitse uudelleenkoulutusta kun hänen käsityksensä internetin käyttäjien sananvapaudesta ja anonymiteetistä on tämä. Petersonin mielestä anonyymit sosiaalisen median käyttäjät ovat trolleja ja psykopaatteja.

En ole seurannut Petersonin juttuja, mutta tämähän on syvääkin syvemmältä.

Peterson, joka postailee tavaraa nettiin omalla nimellään, uransa ja toimentulonsa vuoksi - siis rahan ja maineen vuoksi - vittuilee meille, jotka teemme samaa anonyymisti ja ilmaiseksi.

Jokainen omalla tavallaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 11.01.2023, 19:37:40
[tweet]1611406507815636993[/tweet]   
Kääntämättä parempi. Teemana.
QuoteAbolish "diversity, equity, and inclusion" and replace it with "equality, merit, and colorblindness"
Eli tavoitteena on paluu, varsinkin jenkkinäkökulmasta katsoen, noin vuoteen 2008 tjsp. Impivaaraista ajattelua siis.

edit: Kuvernöörin toimiston tiedote aiheesta (https://www.flgov.com/2023/01/06/governor-ron-desantis-appoints-six-to-the-new-college-of-florida-board-of-trustees/)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: alussaolisana on 11.01.2023, 21:23:26
^^^

Ei Peterson tuossa nimitä anonyymeja trolleiksi tai demoneiksi. Hän puhuu sellaisten sulkemisesta pois eikä todellakaan yleistä kaikkia anonyymeja sellaisiksi. Selkeämpi hän tosin voisi olla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 12.01.2023, 08:36:39
Jerry Coyne on biologian emeritusprofessori, poliittisesti lähinnä klassinen liberaali.  Hän tuo julki usein woke-sekoilun paheksuntansa, joka ulottuu nykyään jopa koviin tieteisiin asti.

Tällä kertaa (https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/01/11/usc-progressives-you-cant-say-field-any-longer/) hän kertoo Etelä-Kalifornian yliopiston (USC) yhden osaston päättäneen, että siellä ei enää kuvata opetuksen ja tutkimuksen toimialoja vakiintuneella termillä "field", koska se voi aiheuttaa epämiellyttäviä mielleyhtymiä orjatyöhön. 

Tapausta on käsitelty muuallakin (https://www.google.com/search?q=USC+school+of+social+work+the+word+field&ei=3Mm-Y4PYGMenptQP9saDoAE&ved=0ahUKEwiDtp2d37_8AhXHk4kEHXbjABQQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=USC+school+of+social+work+the+word+field&gs_lcp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 12.01.2023, 16:56:46
Quote from: alussaolisana on 11.01.2023, 21:23:26
^^^

Ei Peterson tuossa nimitä anonyymeja trolleiksi tai demoneiksi. Hän puhuu sellaisten sulkemisesta pois eikä todellakaan yleistä kaikkia anonyymeja sellaisiksi. Selkeämpi hän tosin voisi olla.

Keitä hän sitten tarkoittaa jos ei anonyymejä käyttäjiä? Kai hän sallisi anonyymit käyttäjät jos he olisivat samaa mieltä hänen kanssaan, mutta sittenhän he eivät tarvitsisi anonymiteetin luomaa suojaa. Peterson nimenomaan jakaa henkilöt rekisteröityneisiin- (oikeat ihmiset) ja anonyymeihin käyttäjiin. Peterson ei ylipäätään ole anonyymien tilien kannattaja. Hänen mielestään asiat pitää sanoa omalla nimellä ja naamalla tai on oltava hiljaa.
QuoteI am increasingly convinced that Twitter anonymity is the refuge of scoundrels and fiends. Say it and stand behind it or hold your tongue.
[tweet]1471706607318966276[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pahani Julmu on 17.01.2023, 11:58:02
Quote"Witch Hunt": Popular Video Game Distributor Fires Female Employee Over Claims of "Transphobia" (https://reduxx.info/witch-hunt-popular-video-game-distributor-fires-female-employee-over-claims-of-transphobia)

An American video game company has fired their community manager after what some are calling an ideological "witch hunt" led by a trans-identified male My Little Pony fan.

On January 6, Limited Run Games, a specialty video games distributor, announced it had terminated an employee following an "investigation" into a situation ostensibly related to diversity and inclusivity.

...

Kara Lynne, the now-ex community manager of Limited Run, was reportedly fired following complaints from a trans activist on Twitter who had dissected Lynne's social media history.

Jonathan "Jessica" Blank, a trans-identified male better known in the My Little Pony fan community as Purple Tinker, published a Twitter thread on January 6 accusing Lynne of "transphobia" and tagging Limited Run Games in an apparent effort to have her penalized.

The so-called infractions Blank leveled against Lynne included that she had been following popular conservative social media account Libs of TikTok, and had posted a tweet expressing opposition to self-identification laws in 2016.

Other alleged examples of transphobia included that Lynne had expressed support for the upcoming Hogwarts Legacy video game.

...

Less than 24 hours after Blank's thread was published, Limited Run Games released their statement announcing an employee had been fired. Blank posted that same day with an update to his thread, excitedly announcing that Lynne had been terminated from her position.

News of the incident quickly began to spread on social media, with many gamers expressing disappointment and outrage at Limited Run Games for succumbing to what many perceived to be a "witch hunt."

Thousands of Twitter users quickly piled beneath their January 6 announcement to express their opinion about the company's move to fire Lynne. As of the writing of this article, Limited Run Games' post has over 3,800 overwhelmingly negative replies. The company has since turned their Twitter comments off to restrict further responses.

...


Jonathan Blank, the trans-identified male ostensibly responsible for launching the campaign that got Lynne fired, has deactivated his Twitter account since backlash began to accumulate.

Blank, who is the founder of My Little Pony convention Bronycon, is reportedly known within his community for directing hatred and abuse towards others, and some former friends of Blank's have even taken to maintaining lists of alleged abusive, bigoted, or disturbing transgressions he has committed.

Despite Blank's recent campaign against Lynne for "transphobia," Blank has been accused of serious infractions by some within the My Little Pony fandom. The accusations include those of racism, sexism, stalking, and doxing.

Blank has even been accused of transphobia himself, and penned an apology in 2013 for threatening to "out" a trans-identified individual he disliked.

Other posts which received backlash include comments made by Blank in 2014 on Tumblr in which he appeared to challenge the "legitimacy" of statutory rape "as a concept," and other comments he made around the same time defending childhood porn exposure.

In 2014, Blank boasted of coding a redirect targeting a specific IP address he believed belonged to an individual who was visiting his website for "hateful" reasons. Rather than being granted access to his site, the unsuspecting visitor was sent to pages containing My Little Pony rape fantasy art, hardcore pornography, and the website of the pro-pedophile North American Man-Boy Love Association.

Limited Run Games on amerikkalainen videopelijakelija. Heillä oli töissä Community Managerina (yleensä jonkinlainen yhteyshenkilö pelitalon ja pelaajien välillä) Kara-niminen nainen. Kara kertoi odottavansa kovasti Harry Potter -peliä Hogwarts Legacy. Tämä ei kuitenkaan ole sallittua, koska transfobinen J.K. Rowling.
Twitter-käyttäjä Purple Tinker, joka on transnainen, ei tykkää tästä mielipiteestä, ja alkaa tutkimaan Karan Twitteriä. Kauhukseen hän löytää sieltä transfobisen twiitin, missä kritisoidaan transvessoja ja että Kara seuraa Twitterissä konservatiivisia käyttäjiä.
Purple Tinker ilmoittaa Twitterissä boikotoivansa yritystä niin kauan kuin Kara on siellä töissä. Reilun 8 tunnin päästä Limited Run Games ilmoittaa irtisanoneensa yhden työntekijöistään.
Selviää myöhemmin, että Purple Tinker on itse lähettänyt tappouhkauksia, lapsipornoa ja puolustellut pedofiliaa.

[tweet]1611363598626062336[/tweet]
QuoteThe community manager for
@LimitedRunGames
, @/KaraLynne0326, is a transphobe who follows a veritable who's who of right-wing transphobic creeps.

Unless and until she is fired from the company permanently, I am not giving them another single dime.

(CW: Transphobia)

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QuoteLRG respects all personal opinions, however we remain committed to supporting an inclusive culture. Upon investigating a situation, an employee was terminated. Our goal as a company is to continue to foster a positive and safe environment for everyone.
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QuotePurple Tinker stalked, doxxed, and threatened to murder another Brony for 2 years.

She sent her stalking victim child rape porn. She defended pedophilia. A very long account w/ 100s of recipts is on Tumblr.

This is who Limited Run Games fired a girl for *being conservative.*
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 17.01.2023, 12:18:08
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 26.01.2023, 23:56:59
Ron DeSantis jatkaa toimiaan wokea vastaan.

Florida BANS AP African American Studies
https://youtu.be/4vL_pdQmztM

DeSantis lambasts White House criticism on Florida's 'woke' ban | 'The Five'
https://youtu.be/0OHE42hCeKI

Florida Rejects African American AP Classes in High Schools
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/20/florida-rejects-african-american-ap-classes-in-high-schools/

Ron DeSantis Defends Florida's Rejection of AP Course: 'Who Would Say that an Important Part of Black History Is Queer Theory?'
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/24/ron-desantis-defends-floridas-rejection-ap-course-who-would-say-important-part-black-history-is-queer-theory/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Charlie on 27.01.2023, 14:28:15
[tweet]1618722475713646592[/tweet]

Taitoluistelun EM-kisojen avajaisnäytökseen on otettu esiintymään Minna-Maaria Antikainen, syntymänimeltään Markku-Pekka. On kuulemma yhdeksän vuotta harjoitellut ja tämä oli unelmien täyttymys. Videolta näkyy, ettei harjoittelu ole kantanut kummoista hedelmää. Niukin naukin pysyy vähän aikaa pystyssä kunnes kaatuu, eikä pääse spottivalojen loisteessa enää omin voimin ylös. Ah miten voimauttavaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 27.01.2023, 15:15:37
Quote from: Charlie on 27.01.2023, 14:28:15
Taitoluistelun EM-kisojen avajaisnäytökseen on otettu esiintymään Minna-Maaria Antikainen, syntymänimeltään Markku-Pekka. On kuulemma yhdeksän vuotta harjoitellut ja tämä oli unelmien täyttymys. Videolta näkyy, ettei harjoittelu ole kantanut kummoista hedelmää. Niukin naukin pysyy vähän aikaa pystyssä kunnes kaatuu, eikä pääse spottivalojen loisteessa enää omin voimin ylös. Ah miten voimauttavaa.

Ylen juttu vuodelta 2019:

Koulupoikana hän kokeili salaa tyttöjen luistimia, nyt hän kiertää kisoissa ravistelemassa vanhoillisia luistelupiirejä – Näin siilinjärveläisestä isännästä tuli jääballerina
https://yle.fi/a/3-10582741

QuoteMinna-Maaria Lax on taitoluistelun outolintu. Mekkoon pukeutuva luistelutaidoton maatalon isäntä on ihastuttanut, vihastuttanut ja siinä samalla muuttanut asenteita. Katso minidokumentti luistelukenttien pioneerista.

Isäntä tuli kaapista – Nyt hän on jääkenttien ballerina
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 29.01.2023, 20:11:49
Britannia on kyllä paljon pahempi wokehullumaa kuin Suomi. Nimittäin, Suomihan tulee asiassa kuin asiassa aina hieman ns suurta maailmaa perässä.

Tosin perässä tullessaan menee sitten vielä överimmäksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 29.01.2023, 20:25:47
Woke pähkinänkuoressa:
https://yle.fi/a/74-20015246
QuoteHuippujohtajien ja -politiikkojen jaksaminen myrkyllisessä mediailmastossa askarruttaa ympäri maailman. Törkyviestien tulvan arvellaan olevan osasyy myös eroilmoitukseen. Pääministerin vastustajia ero ei näytä suuresti vaimentavan.

Woke on sitä, että "huippu"johtajat saavat sekopäinä vapaasti perseillä, ja elää himoamaansa luxuselämää toisten siivellä. Asia ratkeaa sillä, kun kansaan syntyy vastavoima, joka pakottaa läpiään mädänneet hömötiaiset paineen kautta ulos paikoista, joihin eivät kykene.

Artikkelista enemmän:
QuoteUuden-Seelannin Jacinda Ardern väsyi julkisuuteen ja erosi, mutta piina jatkuu – nyt kiinnostavat ex-pääministerin palkkapussi ja parisuhde

Jacinda Ardern on jakanut mielipiteitä suosiostaan huolimatta Uudessa-Seelannissa. Entisen pääministerin vastainen vihapuhe on edelleen varsin myrkyllistä.

Jacinda Ardern oli viisi vuotta sitten, virassa aloittaessaan maailman nuorin pääministeri.

Nyt 42-vuotiaana hän on myös työväenpuolueen kolmanneksi pitkäaikaisin pääministeri. Vajaan kahden viikon takainen eroilmoitus oli koruton.

Hänen mukaansa erolla ei ollut "erityistä syytä". Hän kiitteli morsiantaan "yli-inhimillisestä jaksamisesta ja humaanista perinnöstä".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 29.01.2023, 20:45:19
Quote from: -PPT- on 29.01.2023, 20:11:49
Britannia on kyllä paljon pahempi wokehullumaa kuin Suomi. Nimittäin, Suomihan tulee asiassa kuin asiassa aina hieman ns suurta maailmaa perässä.

Tosin perässä tullessaan menee sitten vielä överimmäksi.
Britannia on varmaan Euroopan wokein maa. Johtuneeko siitä että USA:sta on helppo omaksua kaikki kun kieli on sama?

Kuka päättää tai ketkä päättävät mitä seurataan perässä ja omaksutaan joskus? Päätetäänkö tuo Suomessa vai muualla? Miksi Suomi seuraa joka asiassa "suurta maailmaa" automaattisesti eikä vertaile paikkoja keskenään ja tee tapauskohtaista harkintaa? Vaikutteet kannattaisi hakea tapauskohtaisesti mikä mistäkin. Vastaavasti joitakin paikkoja voi pitää varoittavana esimerkkinä.

Esim. kansalliskonservatiivissa ja arvonkonservatismissa sekä maahanmuuttopolitiikassa sopivimmat mallimaat ovat Itä-Euroopassa kuten Puola. Puola on myös vahvimpia Ukrainan tukijoita, joten Puolaa ei voi syyttää venäjämielisyydestä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 30.01.2023, 03:00:07
Suomi mainittu...

Transgender Figure Ice Skater EMBARRASSED After Falling Down During International Competition!
https://youtu.be/6Ce_i5sVSGs
QuoteThe opening ceremony of the European Figure Skating Championships in Espoo, Finland went viral this week after stunning videos of a 59-year-old man who late in life came out as a gender-neutral trans women's figure skater were posted of him/her being the featured skater.

The skater, Minna-Maaria Antikainen, formerly known as Markku-Pekka Antikainen, left the opening ceremony audience speechless with his/her performance.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kapseli on 30.01.2023, 07:24:12
Onko transasia mennyt jo siihen pisteeseen, että valinnan vapaus ei rajoitu enää vain sukupuoleen? Voiko nyt jo päättää omaavansa jotain taitoja? Olen tästä eteenpäin erittäin viehättävä nainen, pituus 185 ja olen kolmiloikkaaja. Ennätykseni on 25 metriä vastatuuleen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 30.01.2023, 10:59:10
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 30.01.2023, 03:00:07
Suomi mainittu...

Transgender Figure Ice Skater EMBARRASSED After Falling Down During International Competition!
https://youtu.be/6Ce_i5sVSGs
QuoteThe opening ceremony of the European Figure Skating Championships in Espoo, Finland went viral this week after stunning videos of a 59-year-old man who late in life came out as a gender-neutral trans women's figure skater were posted of him/her being the featured skater.

The skater, Minna-Maaria Antikainen, formerly known as Markku-Pekka Antikainen, left the opening ceremony audience speechless with his/her performance.

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Tässä lisää videoita Suomen uusimmasta luistelulupauksesta, Minna-Maariasta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VePyOsI8Vug

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdfslzRAgZw


En ole enää varma kenestä tässä tehdään pilkkaa, yleisöstä vai luistelijasta. Pääasia että kaikki näytelevät kiltisti roolinsa ihan kun Pohjkois-Korean kommunistisen puolueen vuosikokouksissa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 30.01.2023, 12:15:49
Jos tuo on kovan harjoittelun tulos niin millaista hänen luistelunsa on ollutkaan ennen harjoittelua? ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 31.01.2023, 07:48:56
Quote from: Alma_ on 30.01.2023, 19:40:13
Quote from: Kapseli on 30.01.2023, 07:24:12
Onko transasia mennyt jo siihen pisteeseen, että valinnan vapaus ei rajoitu enää vain sukupuoleen? Voiko nyt jo päättää omaavansa jotain taitoja? Olen tästä eteenpäin erittäin viehättävä nainen, pituus 185 ja olen kolmiloikkaaja. Ennätykseni on 25 metriä vastatuuleen.

Kyllä voit. Kirjoitin pari päivää sitten:
Quote from: Alma_ on 28.01.2023, 13:50:41
Hierarkioiden perusteena eivät ole yksilöiden todellinen osaaminen, taidot tai panos yhteiskunnalle, vaan tunnekokemukset, röyhkeys, valittaminen ja vaatimukset. Kannattaa käyttää hetki sen miettimiseen, millaiseksi ympäröivä yhteiskunta alkaa kehittyä, kun alaa valtaavat jälkimmäiset määreet.
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Nythän sen keksin. Kirjoitan itselleni ihan uuden CV:n.

Kolmivuotiaana perustin peliyrityksen jossa linnuiksi maalatuilla männynkävyillä heiteltiin kuusenkävyiksi maalattuja possuja. Tienaamani miljoonat sijoitin kaivamaani tunneliin Tammerkosken ali, mutta se sortui kun kiinalaiset eivät lähteneetkään rahoittamaan.

Siitä huolimatta ryhdyin rippikouluikäisenä Tasavallan Presidentiksi, mutta saatuani perättömiä kokaiinisyytöksiä, perustin EU:n ja muutin sitten Lappiin, jonne omin käsin kasasin kivistä kolme tunturia. Kivien seasta löytämieni kultahippujen turvin perustin EKP:n ja hankin rahoituksen mm. IKEA:lle jota siis ei olisi ilman minua.

Sitten downshiftasin ja opettelin Beethovenin käsialan ja omalla kusella vanhentamalleni paperille kirjoitin kolme sinfoniaa, jotka sitten muka "löysin" jostain Wienin olutkellarista. Vaatimattomana miehenä en tietenkään ottanut niitä omiin nimiini, vaan kuuntelin Wienin philharmoonikoiden versioita niistä kehittämästäni CD-soittimesta louhiessani timantteja Afrikassa.

Kierrettyäni kuun kolmesti omatekemälläni avaruusaluksella päädyin downshiftaamaan ja tein viisi vuotta hanttihommia toiminimellä pienessä kyläpahasessa. Siksi minusta ei ole kuulunutkaan viime aikoina mitään. Saanko paikan?




Jos ihminen voi päättää nimensä, ikänsä ja sukupuolensa, niin miksei myös työhistoriaansa?

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 01.02.2023, 01:53:03
Floridan kuvernööri lakaisee luudallaan julkisten yliopistojen koulutusohjelmia. Wokepäät tietysti sekoamassa.

Ron DeSantis Announces Proposal to Eliminate DEI/CRT Bureaucracies in Higher Education
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/01/31/ron-desantis-announces-proposal-to-eliminate-dei-crt-bureaucracies-in-higher-education/
QuoteFlorida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) announced a series of proposals in relation to higher education in the Sunshine State, including eliminating Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and Critical Race Theory (CRT) bureaucracies, as part of the administration's desire to bring more accountability to the system.
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Black Conservative Perspective- kanavalta:
WOKE Student PROTESTS ERUPT Over Ron DeSantis DEFUNDING Diversity And Inclusion In Universities!
https://youtu.be/Oojh6yooN9U
QuoteGov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) announced that the state of Florida would scrap diversity, equity, and inclusion funding from public universities and increase scrutiny toward underperforming professors.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 05.02.2023, 13:14:04
Bill Maher (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher) vertaa wokeilua Kiinan kulttuurivallankumoukseen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysKhJ1U-vM&t=437s
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Circus Hypno on 10.02.2023, 22:16:17
Jolene Night järjesti kasariteemaisen illan. Yhdessä biisissä kuului n-sana. Siitäkös riemu repesi.


https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/eeb46323-463a-4869-b81c-aedac90e877e

QuoteLahtelaisessa Jolene Nightissa oli lauantaina teemana 1980-luvun musiikki. Kaikki ei mennyt kuitenkaan aivan suunnitelmien mukaan. Dj:n kyseenalainen kappalevalinta sai asiakkaan ärähtämään sosiaalisessa mediassa.

Jodeliin kirjoittanut pyysi mielipiteitä siitä, että illalla oli soinut kappale, jota hän piti Kake Singers -yhtyeen Me halutaan olla neekereitä -lauluna. Kirjoittaja kertoi viestissään huomauttaneensa sopimattomasta kappaleesta illan dj:lle. Kirjoittajan mukaan perustelu kappaleelle oli se, että "kappale on 80-luvun musaa".

Kappaleen soittamista ärsyyntynyt herätti Jodelissa vilkkaan mielipiteenvaihdon, joka lainehti laidasta laitaan. Osa korosti, että menossa oli teemailta, johon kuului sen ajan musiikki. Vastauksena heille osa kirjoittajista sanoi, että nykyisin on ehdottoman väärin ja sivistymätöntä soittaa musiikkia, jonka sanoituksissa esiintyy n-sana.

Mielipiteenvaihto kävi varsin kuumana, ja muutamat keskusteluketjun mielipiteistä ärsyyntyneet kertoivat menevänsä Jolene Nightiin sen ansiosta.

..

– Tarkoitus ei ollut soittaa sitä kappaletta, ja lopetin sen soittamisen heti, kun huomasin, että tuli väärä kappale. Tarkoitus oli soittaa MC Nikke T:n Jos haluu saada, dj kertoo.

Hän sanoo, että oli lopettanut kappaleen soittamisen jo siinä vaiheessa, kun kiivastunut asiakas tuli huomauttamaan siitä.

Asiakkaan Jodel-päivityksestä saa sen käsityksen, että dj olisi vastannut hänelle ylimielisesti, että menossa oli 80-luvun ilta, ja siksi musiikki oli sen mukaista. Dj kiistää tulkinnan.

– En sanonut noin. Sanon vain, että oli kasaribileet ja yritin selittää tilanteen.

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– Hävitin kappaleen. Tarkoitus ei ollut aiheuttaa mielipahaa kenellekään, ja pyydän anteeksi. Toivottavasti tämä ei vaikuta työrintamaan. Muuten ollaan kohta kortistossa, juuri kun koronasta selvittiin, hän sanoo.

Asiakkaan kiukun nostattanut kappale ei ollut Jodel-keskustelussa mainittu Kake Singersin laulu, jolla yhtye pyrki vuonna 1978 Syksyn sävel -kilpailuun, vaan Hausmylly-yhtyeen Se mustamies. Kyseinen kappale on vuodelta 1991 ja sen kertosäkeessä on lainattu mainittua Kake Singersin kappaletta.

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[Ravintolapäällikkö Karita] Halmekivi ei huomannut, että soitettu musiikki olisi aiheuttanut ongelmia. Hän kertoo olleensa koko illan töissä, mutta ei edes kuullut kyseisen kappaleen soineen eikä huomannut mitään hämminkiä yleisössä.

– Kukaan ei illan aikana edes kommentoinut asiaa, eikä kukaan työntekijäkään sanonut siitä mitään, vaikka yleensä jutellaan töiden jälkeen, hän sanoo.



QuoteVastauksena heille osa kirjoittajista sanoi, että nykyisin on ehdottoman väärin ja sivistymätöntä soittaa musiikkia, jonka sanoituksissa esiintyy n-sana.

Tällä perusteella melkoinen osa mustien hip hop -biiseistä pitää laittaa mustalle listalle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 11.02.2023, 23:47:25
Quote
It's Not Even Hidden Anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qrwx-rodobs
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 14.02.2023, 11:23:56
Olisiko Atlantin takana yltiöwokeilu jo hiipumassa?  Jerry Coyne (https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/02/13/is-wokeism-on-the-way-out/) on skeptinen, mutta referoi Musa-al-Gharbin artikkelia, jossa ollaan optimistisempia:

Quotea.) White liberals are no longer so eager to take strong stands on racial issues and are less likely to identify themselves with labels like "feminist."

b.) There has been a drop in the frequency of attempts to censor or shut down speech on campus considered "uncomfortable."

c.) Re politics:

Within the Democratic Party, following anemic 2020 results and recalls of progressive politicians in blue states, there have been efforts to "course correct," to avoid further alienating normie voters...

d.) What al-Gharbi calls "the vibes":

According to some accounts, there is a growing appetite among Generation Z for humor and subversion, for a slackening of constraints and an expansion of horizons...

...They are exhausted by the relentless cynicism, fear, doomsaying, and impression management that have governed much of their lives—and for what? They recognize the revolution isn't coming anytime soon. So they are looking instead to have fun, relax, and cut loose a bit. Or, at the very least, to stop having to be so neurotic, guarded, and paranoid.

e.) Companies are said to be less likely to terminate employees solely on the word of accusers, while others are cutting DEI-related positions. That's not happening on college campuses, though.

f.) Some companies refuse to cave in to social-media pressure to cancel the Offensive, like Dave Chappelle's shows on Netflix or Disney's new CEO taking a milder tone in the culture wars after Florida threatened to revoke the company's tax-exempt status in the state. That, however, is DeSantis acting, and Disney had little choice.

g.) Social media-companies have allowed Twitter to reinstate the accounts of Trump and other noxious right-wingers (I always thought no account should be canceled unless it violates the First Amendment). But that's Elon Musk, not a sea change in society.

Olisiko sittenkin mahdollista, että wokeismi siirtyy historian roskakoriin muiden totalitaaristen ideologioiden seuraan? Paul Graham tweettasi:
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 19.02.2023, 18:40:45

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/02/17/hulus-1619-project-slavery-reparations-will-cost-u-s-taxpayers-at-least-14-trillion/

Disneyn Hulun dokumenttisarja Project 1619 esittää, että USA:n pitäisi maksaa maan neekereille korvauksia. Ne maksettaisiin neekeriorjuuden pohjalta. Summan suuruus arvioidaan liikkuvan alimmillaan 14 biljoonaa dollaria, enimmillään 6,2 kvadriljoonaa. (jälkimmäinen lukema lienee siis 6 200 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 taalaa)

QuoteDisney's Hulu docuseries The 1619 Project has put a price tag on slavery reparations for black Americans. The final bill for U.S. taxpayers will come to about $14 trillion — and that, one "expert" says, is letting America off easy.

The alarming figure comes in the series' sixth and final episode during a conversation between the New York Times' Nikole Hannah-Jones and  William Darity Jr., a Duke University professor and proponent of social "equity."

According to a MRC Newsbusters report, Darity estimates that each individual should receive about $350,000 in reparations. Since there are 40 million black-American descendants of slavery out of a total of 45 million black people in the United States, the total bill would be approximately $14 trillion dollars.

"Okay. Yeah, that's a big number," Hannah-Jones says.

"Yeah, there are bigger numbers though," Darity replies. "It is a big debt. But you know, I've seen estimates of the bill that have run as high as $6.2 quadrillion dollars. So yeah, I do think it's helpful –– $14 trillion might be letting, you know, America off a little bit easier. I mean, pretty much any number you put on. It would be letting America off easy."

Darity says reparations is a "debt that's overdue for a 156 years. It needs to be paid."
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 19.02.2023, 18:53:40
Kuka maksaa kenelle? Montako orjaa tai ex-orjaa on elossa? Ei yhtään. Montako orjanomistajaa tai ex-orjanomistajaa on elossa? Ei yhtään. Tää juttu kaatuu kaiken järjen mukaan tuohon.

Samalla periaatteella voitaisiin laskuttaa ryssiä, turkkialaisia, persialaisia ja intialaisia siitä että ryssät veivät tsuhia orjiksi 1700-luvulla. Ryssät veivät tsuhnia orjiksi Venäjälle, ottomaanien valtakuntaan, Persiaan ja Intiaan 1700-luvulla. Teemu Keskisarja voisi selvittää korvaussumman.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pugisti on 19.02.2023, 20:56:26
Ei ole eri rotuja, periydymme kaikki samasta "alkuihmisestä" ynnä muuta, niin miksi pitäis maksaa, samaa puuta ja sukua ollaan, eihän me voida olla veljille siskoille serkulle rasistisia 🤷🏻‍♂️
Vai onko nämä käsitteet käytössä ns sopivan tilanteen tullen?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 19.02.2023, 21:11:37
Koulushoppaaminen on selkeästi haukkumasana jota käytetään niitä vastaan jotka eivät halua että omat lapset ovat neekerikouluissa koulukiusattuina.

Toki, tuon leimakirveen viljelijät pitävät hyvin tarkkaa huolta siitä että omille lapsille ei moista koulutietä ole edessä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Petri_Petri on 20.02.2023, 01:05:50
Quote from: Siili on 14.02.2023, 11:23:56
Olisiko Atlantin takana yltiöwokeilu jo hiipumassa?  Jerry Coyne (https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/02/13/is-wokeism-on-the-way-out/) on skeptinen, mutta referoi Musa-al-Gharbin artikkelia, jossa ollaan optimistisempia:

Quotea.)

a.) Valkoiset liberaalit eivät ole enää niin innokkaita ottamaan voimakkaasti kantaa rotukysymyksiin ja eivät todennäköisesti tunnista itseään "feminististen" kaltaisiin etiketteihin.
...
d.) Mitä al-Gharbi kutsuu "tunnelmiksi":

Joidenkin kertomusten mukaan Z-sukupolven keskuudessa on kasvava ruokahalu huumoriin ja kumouksellisuuteen, rajoitusten löystymiseen ja horisonttien laajentamiseen...

... He ovat uupuneita säälimättömästä kyynisyydestä, pelosta, tuomiosta ja vaikutelmanhallinnasta, jotka ovat hallinneet suurta osaa heidän elämästään – ja mitä varten? He ymmärtävät, että vallankumous ei ole tulossa lähiaikoina. Joten he haluavat sen sijaan pitää hauskaa, rentoutua ja leikata hieman irti. Tai ainakin lopettaa joutumasta olemaan niin neuroottinen, vartioitu ja vainoharhainen..
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Automaattikäänsin suomeksi. Tuo a-kohta, rooli feministien "etiketissä" on selkeä fanaattinen kupla, jossa on joka asiaan vain yksi oikea vastaus. Se aiheuttaa ristiriitoja, kun vähänkin itse ajattelee. Kuplassa kuitenkin katoaa juuri tuo kunkin ihmisen oma tunto, omatunto, jolloin tulee sisäinen ristiriita. Siksi d-kohta tulee vääjäämättä eteen kun tajutaan kuplassa olevan jokin vialla.

Ihminen haluaa pyrkiä omaan onnellisuuteen. Kun se mielletään itsekkyydeksi josta pitää luopua ja olla epäitsekäs, niin ristiriita on valmis. Siitä tulee neuroottiseksi, kyyniseksi, vainoharhaiseksi ja, kuten tuossa sanotaan, mitä varten? Eli onko itse olemassa muita varten vai onko itse olemassa itseänsä varten. Itsekkyyttä pidetään pahana, mutta mitä muuta itse olisit jos et itsekäs? Jos olet epäitsekäs, niin miten tiedät mitä epäitsekkyys on? Siitä on muiden erilaisia näkemyksiä, joten miten voit valita "oikean" epäitsekkyyden?

Jos oletetaan että ihmisen tarkoitus on olla onnellinen, niin tuossa on ristiriita, kun ei saisi relata, pitää hauskaa (paitsi kuplan määräämällä tavalla yhdessä nauraa "viholliselle").

Kunnianhimossa tämä kärjistyy. Kun ei kunniaa saakaan epäitsekkyydellä, eli ei tullakaan onnelliseksi, kuten havaitaan esim. kunnianhimoista ilmastopolitiikkaa ajavilla. Milloin se kunnia teille tulee? Kun ollaan hiilineutraaleja, merten muoviongelma on ratkaistu ja ihmiset ovat tasa-arvoisia, silloinko saatte kunniaa? Kunnianhimo aiheuttaa katkeruutta, kun siinä ei mikään riitä. Eikä kunnia ja tasa-arvo ole yhteensovitettavissa. Jos ja kun tavoite on että kaikki kunnioittavat toisiaan tasa-arvoisesti, niin koko kunnianhimo-sana menettää merkityksensä. Samalla tavalla tasa-arvossa kaikki erilaisuus menettää merkityksensä, kun sitä ei saisi olla. Ja kun samanaikaisesti yritetään olla niin yksilöä, niin ristiriita alkaa huutaa.

Siten vääjäämättömästi woke-kulttuuri hajoaa, kun ihmisten oma ajattelu herää. Paradoksaalisesti siis woke-kulttuuri hajoaa siihen, mitä se omasta mielestä yrittää esittää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Scruton on 23.02.2023, 11:22:17
Koska tämä woke-sokeilu on pitkälti ammattimaisten aktivistien puuhaamaa, on heidän liikkeelleen tyypillistä että se tulee aina siirtämään maalitolppia yhä hullumpaan suuntaan vanhan tavoitteensa saavuttaessaan. Sillä pitäähän ammattimaisten aktivistien saada aina oikeutus heidän hillotolpilleen erinäisissä kolmannen sektorin yhdistyksissä.

Tästä dynamiikasta johtuen se mikä tällä hetkellä nähdään progressiivisena voi jo huomenna olla osoitus mitä pahimmasta vanhoillisuudesta aatteen kannattajien silmissä. Hyvänä esimerkkinä esim. suhteellisen suvakki Esko Valtaoja joka varmasti aikoinaan kuvitteli saavansa antirasistisia hyvispisteitä osallistumalla Nenäpäivään, mutta muutamaa vuotta myöhemmin Renaz kertoo hänelle Ylen lähetyksessä että Nenäpäivään osallistuminen tekikin hänestä itseasiassa rasistin!

En edes yllättyisi jos jopa suhtautuminen maahanmuuttoon kokisi jossain vaiheessa tällaisen täyskäännöksen woke-leirissä. Voin kuvitella jo että siinä vaiheessa kun mamut ovat enemmistönä Euroopassa, he alkavat syytää vähemmistöksi jäänyttä valkoista väestöä siitä kuinka mamut Eurooppaan tuonut maahanmuuttopolitiikka oli neokolonialismia ja kuinka he eläisivät Wakanda utopiassa jos pahat neokolonialistit eivät olisi siirtäneet heitä työperäisen maahanmuuton nimissä pois Afrikasta. Pahoin pelkään että tällaisilla argumenteilla tullaan vielä perustelemaan kantaväestöön kohdistuva syrjintä ja vaino. Ja tietysti kukaan ei siinä vaiheessa muista että se oli nimenomaan aikoinaan rasistiksi haukutut konservatiivit jotka vastustivat rajatonta maahanmuuttoa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 23.02.2023, 18:49:21
 :o


Kirsi Kainio
Itä-Suomen yliopisto
Ari Sivenius
Itä-Suomen yliopisto

Heteronormatiivisuus Ice Age -animaatioelokuvien eläinhahmojen dialogissa

"Artikkelissa käsitellään viidessä koko perheen Ice Age -animaatioelokuvassa esitettyjä sukupuolesta puhumisen tapoja. Teoreettisesti tarkastelun lähtökohtana ovat Judith Butlerin ja Michel Foucault'n näkemykset diskurssien vallasta suhteessa sukupuoleen. Animaatioelokuvien eläinhahmojen verbaalista kommunikaatiota lähestytään diskurssianalyyttisesti. Artikkelissa kysytään, (1) millaisiksi sukupuolia animaatioelokuvissa rakennetaan ja (2) millaisin keinoin tuo rakentaminen tapahtuu. Auditiivisen syväanalyysin perustalta artikkelissa esitetään, että kohteena olevia animaatioelokuvia jäsentää kolme erilaista mutta toisiaan tukevaa diskursiivista muodostumaa: ensinnäkin heteronormatiivisuuteen nojaava, toiseksi hyperbolaa eli liioittelua hyödyntävä sekä kolmanneksi vahvuutta ja ei-vahvuutta sukupuolen määreinä käyttävä puhunta. Näistä lähtökohdista artikkelissa pohditaan, miten kulttuurissa vallalla olevia sukupuolikäsityksiä ja normeja tuotetaan jokapäiväiseen elämäämme sekä miten kasvatuksessa tulisi tiedostaa kulttuuristen esitysten sukupuolittava luonne."

https://journal.fi/sukupuolentutkimus/article/view/126864
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: alussaolisana on 24.02.2023, 09:08:19
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Ja pohjana kyhäelmällä Butler, jonka mielestä sukupuolten määrittelyyn voisi biologian määrittämien erojen sijaan käyttää yhtä hyvin vaikka vasen-/oikeakätisyyttä sekä neokommunisti Foucalt, jonka elämäntehtävänä tuntui olevan filosofisen viitekehyksen sorvaaminen pedofilian laillistamiseksi.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.02.2023, 15:41:08
Kappas!

Quotehttps://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000009414698.html?share=c17edd8f2eebfa3b1776157a0fadf36b

Nightwishin Tuomas Holopainen tuohtui Disneyn päätöksestä: "Wokeismistahan tässäkin on kyse"

Kahta Don Rosan Roope Ankka -tarinaa ei julkaista enää uudelleen, Disney-yhtiö linjasi. Muutoksia klassikoihin on tehty jo vuosikymmeniä.
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Kansainvälisessä uutisoinnissa päätöksen arvellaan liittyneen mustaan Bombi-nimiseen zombiehahmoon, jonka piirsi ensimmäiseksi Carl Barks. Näin arvaa myös Holopainen.

"Ikään kuin yhdessäkään Rosan tarinoista olisi yhtään mitään rasistista tai loukkaavaa! Disneyn päätös on täysin naurettava. Ja kaksinaismoralistinen. Kyseinen lafka kun edelleen varsin näkyvästi romantisoi ja ihannoi vaikkapa merirosvoutta Pirates of the Caribbean -franchisessaan."

Holopainen pitää päätöstä ongelmallisena myös sananvapauden kannalta.

"Sananvapaus on demokratian ja toimivan yhteiskunnan peruspilari, ja tällaisessa taiteen sensuurissa on ikäviä orwellilaisia vivahteita. Vastaavia esimerkkejä on lähimenneisyydestä valitettavan useita."

Loput linkistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 25.02.2023, 17:03:47
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.02.2023, 15:41:08
Kappas!

Quotehttps://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000009414698.html?share=c17edd8f2eebfa3b1776157a0fadf36b

Nightwishin Tuomas Holopainen tuohtui Disneyn päätöksestä: "Wokeismistahan tässäkin on kyse"


Quote"WOKEISMISTAHAN tässäkin on kyse. On helppo hyvesignaloida maailmalle omaa hyveellisyyttään tarttumalla tällaisiin mitättömyyksiin, sen sijaan että tartuttaisiin oikeisiin ongelmiin. Kuten vaikka paljon spekuloituun Disneyn työntekijöiden kohteluun ja sosiaaliturvaan", Holopainen kritisoi.

Holopaista ei ilmeisesti Hesarikaan voi leimata saman tien äärioikeistolaiseksi, joten Hesari antaa ymmärtää hänen olevan "arvokonservatiivi", kielenkäytön takia.  Hesari myös selvittää epätietoisille ongelmalliset termit:

QuoteHän käyttää kahta kiisteltyä termiä, joista wokeismi liittyy poliittiseen valveutuneisuuteen erityisesti syrjinnän suhteen. Osa arvokonservatiiveista on käyttänyt sitä halveksuvana ilmaisuna, jossa poliittiseen korrektiuteen pyrkiminen katsotaan menevän liiallisuuksiin.

Hyvesignalointi on myös joidenkin arvokonservatiivienkin käyttämä termi, jolla tarkoitetaan yhteiskunnallisten mielipiteiden ilmaisemista siinä tarkoituksessa, että kuulijat pitäisivät puhujaa hyvänä ihmisenä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.02.2023, 17:25:15
Woken vastustus ei vielä kerro kenenkään sijaintia perinteisessä poliittisessa nelikentässä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 25.02.2023, 19:16:32
Satuin saamaan hyppysiini uuden Time-aikakauslehden ja hämmästyin, kun huomasin sanan Black (viitaessa ihonväriin) kirjoitettavan isolla ja vastaavasti white pienellä. Tämä toistui läpi lehden, kaikissa artikkeleissa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 25.02.2023, 19:27:53
Quote from: Bona on 25.02.2023, 19:16:32
Satuin saamaan hyppysiini uuden Time-aikakauslehden ja hämmästyin, kun huomasin sanan Black (viitaessa ihonväriin) kirjoitettavan isolla ja vastaavasti white pienellä. Tämä toistui läpi lehden, kaikissa artikkeleissa.

Tuo on neekerinnöyristelyä; kunnioitamme teitä oi Mustat, saanko nuolla kenkänne mitä nöyrimmin ja alamaisimmin, minä väritön valkoinen universumin haiseva jäte.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 25.02.2023, 19:51:34
'Israel on ihan eri juttu..'

Martin Luther King -kortti ei ihan aina toimi..

Mustakin voi näköjään sittenkin olla rasisti..

'Do you love white people..'

https://gab.com/Stanleymitchell90/posts/109854849929037930
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 25.02.2023, 21:03:35
'Bill Maher_White Shame'

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BKLmmtv4aOY
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 26.02.2023, 01:56:26
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Yhdysvallat: Pakolaisnainen rinnastaa Columbian yliopiston wokeismin ja cancel-kulttuurin kokemuksiinsa Pohjois-Koreassa


Pohjois-Koreasta paennut kirjailija ja aktivisti puhuu "puhtaasta indoktrinaatioleiristä" ja "aivopesusta" yliopistollaan. " En usko, että meillä on enää paljon aikaa jäljellä", Yeon-mi Park huomauttaa.

"He asuvat Manhattanilla, elävät maailman vapaimmassa maassa, jonka voi kuvitella, ja silti he sanovat olevansa "sorrettuja"? Siinä ei ole mitään järkeä", Yeon-mi Park kertoi New York Postille opiskelijoista Columbian yliopistossa. "Minut myytiin 20 dollarilla seksiorjaksi 2000-luvulla, tämän saman taivaan alla. Ja he sanovat, että heitä sorretaan, koska ihmiset eivät pysy heidän päivittäin keksimiensä pronominien perässä?"

29-vuotias loikkasi Pohjois-Koreasta teini-ikäisenä, minkä jälkeen hän joutui ihmiskaupan uhriksi Kiinaan. Vuonna 2014 hänestä tuli yksi niistä 200 pohjoiskorealaisesta, jotka asuvat Yhdysvalloissa. Viime vuodesta lähtien hän on ollut Yhdysvaltain kansalainen.

Nyt, kun neljä vuotta on kulunut Columbian yliopistosta taloustieteen opinnoista valmistumisen jälkeen, Park varoittaa Yhdysvaltojen cancel-kulttuurista ja wokeismista.

Helmikuun 14. päivänä julkaistussa kirjassaan "While Time Remains" ("Kun vielä on aikaa jäljellä") Park kertoo, miten hän onnistui pääsemään Yhdysvaltoihin vain todetakseen, että hänen vapauttaan loukataan samalla tavalla kuin Pohjois-Koreassa, aina identiteettipolitiikasta eliitin tekopyhyyteen ja uhri-mentaliteettiin.

"Pakenin maanpäällistä helvettiä ja ylitin aavikon etsiessäni vapautta. Löysin vapauden", hän kirjoittaa. "En halua, että uudelle kodilleni tapahtuu mitään pahaa. Haluan, että... On välttämätöntä, että pidämme pimeyden loitolla."

Hän vetoaa lukijoihin: "Tarvitsen apuanne maamme pelastamiseksi, kun vielä on hetki aikaa."

Park nousi otsikoihin vuonna 2015 kirjallaan "In Order to Live: A North Korean Girl's Journey to Freedom" ("Jotta voisin elää: Pohjoiskorealaisen tytön matka vapauteen") ja rohkeilla väitteillään, joiden mukaan Columbian yliopistossa opiskeluaikana vallinnut woke-ympäristö muistutti häntä Pohjois-Koreasta.

Kun ongelman puuttuminen on ongelma

New York Postin haastattelussa tällä viikolla Park muisteli, miltä hänestä tuntui Pohjois-Koreasta loikanneena, tyranniaa ja sortoa paenneena, kun hän tapasi opiskelijoita, jotka olivat innokkaita väittämään olevansa "uhreja" ja saadakseen "sortopisteitä". Hän kutsui kampustaan "puhtaaksi indoktrinaatioleiriksi". Hän kertoi, että monet hänen opiskelutoverinsa New Yorkin eliittikoulussa olivat "aivopestyjä kuten pohjoiskorealaiset oppilaat".

"En koskaan ymmärtänyt, että ongelman puuttuminen voi olla ongelma", Park sanoi. "Heidän on luotava vääryys tai ongelma tyhjästä, koska he eivät ole kokeneet mitään sellaista, mitä monet muut ihmiset maailmassa kohtaavat."

Hän syntyi Hyesanissa Pohjois-Koreassa virkamiehen ja armeijan sairaanhoitajan toisena lapsena ja kasvoi silloisen ylimmän johtajan Kim Jong-ilin vallan alla synkissä olosuhteissa.
Hänen viiden ensimmäisen elinvuotensa aikana arviolta 3,5 miljoonaa pohjoiskorealaista kuoli nälkään. Park muistaa jahdanneensa torakoita matkalla kouluun lievittääkseen nälkäänsä, vaikka Kimin hallinto kielsi sanat "nälänhätä" ja "nälkä".

"Hyesanin pimeys on täydellinen", Park kirjoittaa. "Kyse ei ole vain valon, sähkön ja ruoan puutteesta. Se on ihmisarvon, turvan ja toivon puutetta. Pimeys Hyesanissa tarkoittaa kuvainnollisesti sitä, että poliisi vei vanhempani ja naapurini pois, koska he olivat keränneet hyönteisiä ja kasveja lastensa syötäväksi."

Kun hänen isänsä pidätettiin ja tuomittiin pakkotyöhön suolan ja sokerin kaupittelusta, Parkin perheen elämä Pohjois-Koreassa kurjistui entisestään. Lopuksi he suunnittelivat pakoaan.

"En paennut etsimään vapautta tai turvallisuutta. Pakenin etsimään kulhollisen riisiä", hän kirjoittaa.

Kehon vaarallisin asia voi olla kieli

Parkin sisko pakeni ensin Pohjois-Koreasta. Silloin 13-vuotias Park ja hänen äitinsä seurasivat häntä jäisen Yalu-joen yli Kiinaan. Mutta sen sijaan, että he olisivat löytäneet toisensa sisarensa kanssa, he joutuivat ihmiskauppiaiden käsiin, jotka myivät Parkin seksiorjaksi.

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Meneillään  on kulttuurivallankumous – "Kun tajuamme tämän, voi olla jo liian myöhäistä."

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"He sanovat, että valkoiset ovat etuoikeutettuja, syyllisiä ja sortajia", Park kertoo. "Pohjois-Korean hallinto käyttää tätä taktiikkaa ihmisten jakamiseksi. Amerikassa on sama ajatus kollektiivisesta syyllisyydestä. Se on ideologia, joka on ajanut Pohjois-Korean sellaiseksi kuin se on nyt. Nyt sitä samaa iskostetaan amerikkalaisiin nuoriin mieliin."

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https://www.kansalainen.fi/yhdysvallat-pohjoiskorealainen-pakolaisnainen-rinnastaa-columbian-yliopiston-wokeismin-ja-cancel-kulttuurin-kokemuksiinsa-pohjois-koreassa/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=yhdysvallat-pohjoiskorealainen-pakolaisnainen-rinnastaa-columbian-yliopiston-wokeismin-ja-cancel-kulttuurin-kokemuksiinsa-pohjois-koreassa


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 26.02.2023, 03:12:18
Yeonmi Park menisi muutoin Pohjois-Korea-ketjuun mutta kun hän on ollut tekemisissä woken kanssa, tällöin tämä tulee tänne. Yeonmi Park oli Fox-kanavan vieraana uuden kirjansa osalta:
https://youtu.be/Y9ayaPpg2vo
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.02.2023, 08:57:21
^Tuossa kerrotaan, miten Kiina rahoittaa Amerikan yliopistoja ja Hollywoodia, ja jälki on se mukaista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jaska Pankkaaja on 26.02.2023, 09:16:36
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.02.2023, 17:25:15
Woken vastustus ei vielä kerro kenenkään sijaintia perinteisessä poliittisessa nelikentässä.
No ei kyllä tule mieleen yhtään vasuri-aktiivia joka olisi jotain woke-vastaista sanonut.. vasemmiston tukijalka eli eläkeläiset, viilari-vilhot ja kyllikki-keittäjät eivät edes tiedä mikä se woke on. Ei tosin tarvitsekaan tietää mutta se on toinen juttu.

Talousnerojen kovassa oikeistopuolueessa kokoomuksesta on tosin woke-kritiikkiä vähän tullut, esimerkkeinä Rydman ja Korhola. Ja siellä äs-markettien pihoilla: voi veljet kun oman kylän poika kyllä kertoo mitä mieltä Hän on wokesta, napin painalluksiin maakuntien kalapuikkojen edustajat eivät tosin saa, eivätkä oikeistaan haluakaan, itse vaikuttaa ;)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mindy on 26.02.2023, 10:19:31
Quote from: Bona on 25.02.2023, 19:16:32
Satuin saamaan hyppysiini uuden Time-aikakauslehden ja hämmästyin, kun huomasin sanan Black (viitaessa ihonväriin) kirjoitettavan isolla ja vastaavasti white pienellä. Tämä toistui läpi lehden, kaikissa artikkeleissa.

Mikäs yllätys tuo nyt oli? Jo muutama vuosi sitten ilmoitettiin, että useampi USA:n valtamedia siirtyy kirjoittamaan ihmisistä puhuttaessa sanan black isolla alkukirjaimella. Associated Press -uutistoimistokin taisi olla menossa mukaan, ellei peräti aloittanut koko trendiä. Täyttä nuolentaahan tuollainen on ja aivan älyvapaata, mutta tämä on vanha uutinen ainakin Breitbartia ym. oikealla olevaa vaihtoehtomediaa seuraaville.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 26.02.2023, 12:24:02
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.02.2023, 08:57:21
^Tuossa kerrotaan, miten Kiina rahoittaa Amerikan yliopistoja ja Hollywoodia, ja jälki on se mukaista.

Jep vihollisyhteiskunnan subversio on tehokkainta sitä kautta. Neukkulakin yritti samaa ja saada jalkaa oven väliin agentin kautta. Pääoman kautta homma on vaan helpompaa, kuten Kiina on havainnut. Kun ostaa viihdeyrityksen, se tuottaa sitä, mitä omistaja haluaa. Neukkulalla oli ongelma, että se ei voinut ostaa Hollywoodin studioita suoraan, eikä epäsuorasti uskottavaa riittävän suurta bulvaania olisi saatu aikaisiksi...

Tässä eräs NKVD:n länteen lähetetty illegaali agentti teki uraa osin neukkulan rahoilla tuottajana Hollywoodissa..

https://crimereads.com/the-hollywood-golden-age-producer-turned-cold-war-spy/

"The Hollywood Golden Age Producer Turned Cold War Spy
Boris Morros went to Hollywood to reinvent himself at Paramount. His Soviet handlers came along for the ride.
April 14, 2020 By Jonathan Gill
VIA ABRAMS PRESS

Boris Morros fit in easily in Hollywood. Like so many transplants from the East Coast, he marveled at the way doors that were closed on Wall Street, Main Street, Madison Avenue, in the Ivy League, and even on Broadway were open in Hollywood."
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.02.2023, 18:08:18
Quote from: FBUMK-juontajan pukeminen hameeseen on osa laajempaa ilmiötä, jossa länsimaiset miehet yhä useammin esitetään viihteessä ja mainoksissa velttoina, tyhminä ja noloina. Kyseessä on sosiaalinen kastraatio. Se, että miehet saa suostumaan tällaiseen, on kyllä aivopesun taidonnäyte vailla vertaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Viimeinen linja on 26.02.2023, 18:19:54
Pari ajatusta tuli mieleen, joko juontaja tykkää hameista ja näki sopivan tilaisuuden näyttää mieltymyksensä myös muille tai sitten tylsempi vaihtoehto eli on haistellut nykyajan ilmapiiriä ja menee virran mukana. On sitten helpompi myydä niitä renkutuksia kun on hyvä "mies".

Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.02.2023, 18:08:18
Quote from: FBUMK-juontajan pukeminen hameeseen on osa laajempaa ilmiötä, jossa länsimaiset miehet yhä useammin esitetään viihteessä ja mainoksissa velttoina, tyhminä ja noloina. Kyseessä on sosiaalinen kastraatio. Se, että miehet saa suostumaan tällaiseen, on kyllä aivopesun taidonnäyte vailla vertaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 26.02.2023, 21:02:36
Tuollaiselta näyttää huumehörhö. Valistuskampanjaa parhaimmillaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 26.02.2023, 21:38:44
Quote from: Bona on 25.02.2023, 19:16:32
Satuin saamaan hyppysiini uuden Time-aikakauslehden ja hämmästyin, kun huomasin sanan Black (viitaessa ihonväriin) kirjoitettavan isolla ja vastaavasti white pienellä. Tämä toistui läpi lehden, kaikissa artikkeleissa.

Black on erisnimi kuten Democrats tuossa artikkelissa. Se on erisnimi, jolla viitataan ihmisryhmään, joka identifioituu valkoisen ylivallan sorron kohteena olevaksi vähemmistöksi. Black voi olla vaikka sellaiseksi identifioitunut Scott Adams, joka päätti erota Blacks-viiteryhmästä (toinen ketju) ja tuli canceloitua.

White on ihon eli hipiän vaaleaa väritystä kuvaava sana: väri, adjektiivi. Se ei ole minkään ihmisryhmän nimi, sillä sellaista ihmisryhmää kuin whites ei ole olemassa.

Tämän kun ymmärtää, niin alkaa päästä jäljille, mistä tässä jälleen on kyse.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 26.02.2023, 23:29:09
Kuuluisiko Riikan twiitit Riikka-ketjuun mutta twiitin puolesta sopisi tännekin.
[tweet]1629928409647177734[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 27.02.2023, 01:35:49
Onko mikään ihme että erään heimon  ihmiset ovat historian saatossa häädetty yhdestä jos toisestakin maasta? Silkkoja riidankylväjiä ja toimii täysin nykypäivänäkin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 27.02.2023, 20:41:06
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.02.2023, 08:57:21
^Tuossa kerrotaan, miten Kiina rahoittaa Amerikan yliopistoja ja Hollywoodia, ja jälki on se mukaista.
Ted Cruz kertoi saman täällä: [tweet]1630239769539092481[/tweet]
Tämän voisi laittaa Kiina-ketjuun, mutta kun puhe oli yliopistoista ja Hollywoodista mitkä ovat woken sylttytehtaita, tämä käy varmaan tähänkin ketjuun.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Circus Hypno on 01.03.2023, 09:39:19
https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000009420046.html

QuoteKIRJAILIJA Ian Flemingin luomat James Bond -kirjat kirjoitetaan uudestaan rasististen ja muiden mahdollisesti loukkaavaksi koettujen sisältöjen osalta. Asiasta kertoo brittilehti The Telegraph.

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Teosten oikeuden omistava Ian Fleming Publications Ltd käytti uusien painosten kohdalla sensitiivisyyslukijoita arvioimaan tekstien sisältämiä ongelmalliseksi koettuja aineksia ja ilmaisuja.

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THE TELEGRAPH kuvailee kohtia, joita on Bond-kirjoista on kirjoitettu uudestaan. Tällainen on esimerkiksi vuonna 1954 julkaistussa Elä ja anna toisten kuolla -romaanissa, jossa Bond kuvailee mahdollisia afrikkalaisia rikollisia.

Alkuperäisessä tekstissä Bond arvelee, että he ovat "suhteellisen lainkuuliaisia tyyppejä - - paitsi silloin, kun he ovat juoneet liikaa". Muokatusta tekstistä on poistettu viittaus juomiseen.

Samaisesta kirjasta on myös siistitty kohtaa, jossa Bond vierailee striptease-baarissa. Alkuperäisessä tekstissä kuvaillaan miesasiakkaiden "läähätystä" ja "murahtelua". Bondin tunnelmista kerrotaan näin: "Hän tunsi käsiensä tarrautuvan pöytäliinaan. Hänen suunsa oli kuiva." Tekstiä on muokattu vapaasti suomennettuna muotoon: "Bond pystyi aistimaan huoneen sähköisen tunnelman."

Fleming käytti mustista ihmisistä järjestään n-sanaa 1950–1960-lukujen Bond-kirjoissa. Nämä sanat on korvattu. Joissain yhteyksissä viittaukset ihonväriin on myös kokonaan häivytetty.

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VUONNA 1964 kuollut Ian Fleming antoi aikoinaan luvan muokata teoksiaan, jotta ne sopisivat paremmin esimerkiksi Yhdysvaltojen markkinoille. Silloin teoksista siistittiin seksikohtauksia ja muokattiin etnisyyksiin liittyvien ilmaisujen sävyä.

Ian Fleming Publications Ltd toteaa, että he jatkavat Flemingin hyväksymällä linjalla teoksia uudistaessaan.

Onneksi wokettajien mielestä ei ole ongelmallista se, että James Bondilla on edelleen uusiksi kirjoitetuissakin versioissa lupa tappaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 01.03.2023, 11:25:02
Quote from: Circus Hypno on 01.03.2023, 09:39:19
Onneksi wokettajien mielestä ei ole ongelmallista se, että James Bondilla on edelleen uusiksi kirjoitetuissakin versioissa lupa tappaa.

Tämä on kieltämättä jotenkin epäloogista. Kaikenlainen rasismiin vivahtava nostetaan kategoriana erityisen tarkastelun ja sensuurin kohteeksi teoksissa, joita on luettu ja katsottu ilman ongelmia vuosikymmeniä. Amerikkalaisillehan perinteisesti seksuaalisuuteen liittyvät kuvaukset ovat olleet pöyristymisen aihe lähes jokaisessa taiteenlajissa, mutta rajukaan väkivalta ei toisaalta ole ollut minkäänlainen ongelma. Voisi todeta, että amerikkalaisen woken silmin rasismi on uusi väkivalta.

Yksi suosikkikirjailijoistani on ollut H.P. Lovecraft, jonka teoksiin ja henkilöön woke-kultti tarttui joitakin vuosia sitten vaikka itse kirjailijahan on ollut edesmennyt jo kauan. On jotenkin surkuhupaisaa, että Lovecraft on kuvaillut teoksissaan kaikenlaisia käsittämättömiä kosmisia kauhuja, mutta kauheinta on modernin ihmisen mielestä sittenkin rasismi. Woke-kultin käsitys asioista on hyvin mustavalkoinen: jos taiteilija on heidän mielestään rasistinen, taiteilija tulee canceloida ja jonkinlaisen kieroutuneen logiikan kautta kaikki taiteilijan teokset "saastuvat", ovat siten vaarallisia ja ihmisiä täytyy suojella saastaisuudelta. Tämä woke-mekanismi muistuttaa irrationaalisuudessaan taikauskoa. Se on myös kohtuuttomuudessaan röyhkeää.

Ongelmallista tässä on (järjettömien premissien ohella) se, että se mikä woke-kultin mielestä on rasismia tänään, voi olla muuttunut aivan toiseksi jo huomenna. Pyrkimys kontrolloida taideteoksia ja ulottaa nykypäivänä keksityt vaatimukset koskemaan niitä osoittaa historiantajuttomuutta ja vajavaista ymmärrystä taiteesta. Koska taiteen lähtökohtana usein on juuri kontroversiaalisuus ja ristiriitaisuus, taiteellisen vapauden pitäisi koskea myös rasistisia teemoja - täysin riippumatta siitä, miten rasismi nyt sitten tarkemmin ottaen määritelläänkään.

Itse asiassa, taiteellisen vapauden rajoittaminen väitetyn rasismin perusteella johtaa mielestäni väistämättä siihen, että ihmisten ja ihmisten välisten suhteiden kuvailu yksipuolistuu ja infantilisoituu. Tästä on jo mielestäni populaarikulttuurissa selkeitä viitteitä olemassa. Tämä on lopulta ensin taiteilijoiden, sitten yleisön ja lopulta koko kulttuurin tappio. Pyrkimys vahvistaa kulttuuria sensuroimalla kulttuuriteoksista epäsovinnaiset piirteet ja demonisoimalla kulttuurintuottajat on jo lähtökohtaisestikin epäilyttävä ajatus, mutta se ei ole tietenkään woke-kulttia estänyt yrittämästä sitä. Ja menestystä on valitettavasti woke-kultille tullut. Tässä pätee todellakin se, että jos antaa pirulle pikkusormen, se vie koko käden.

Se ei ilmeisesti ole kulttuurista omimista, että kulttuuriteoksia muutetaan väkisin sellaiseen muotoon, joka ei ole minkäänlainen ongelma alkuperäiselle kulttuurille mutta on ongelma muualta tulleiden kulttuurille, ja vieläpä omituiselle woke-kulttuurille jota ei kuulemma ole edes olemassa. Kieltämättä haiskahtaa hieman ironialle tämä homma.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.03.2023, 12:28:53
Kulttuurinen omiminen auttaa eri kulttuureja kehittymään. Kulttuurinen sabotointi - sensurointi - auttaa kulttuureita taantumaan helpommin kontrolloitavan apinan tasolle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 01.03.2023, 13:21:58
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.03.2023, 12:28:53
Kulttuurinen omiminen auttaa eri kulttuureja kehittymään. Kulttuurinen sabotointi - sensurointi - auttaa kulttuureita taantumaan helpommin kontrolloitavan apinan tasolle.

Kun opiskelin n.30-vuotta sitten yliopistossa, oli esim. historian/kulttuurintutkimuksen alalla innovaatioiden leviämisen tutkimuksen buumi. Siis tutkittiin, kuinka innovaatiot ovat levinneet yhteiskunnista toisiin ja minkälaisia vaikutuksia niilla on ollut ja kuinka ne ovat muokkautuneet eri kulttuurien vaikutuksesta.

Tutkimusaiheesta oltiin innoissaan professoritasolla ja innovaatioiden leviämistä pidettiin yleisesti positiivisena asiana, joka nopeutti yhteiskuntien kehitystä. Ajatus on ihan looginen, kun tarkastelee historiassa merkittävien innovaatioiden leviämistä ja kehitystä. Taustalla oli selkeästi myös silloista poliittista intoa kansainvälistymiseen.

Mutta nyt 30-vuotta myöhemmin kaikki on toisin kiitos amerikkalaisissa/anglosaksisissa yliopistoissa subversiolla synnytetyn woke-liikkeen, joka on "innovaationa" levinnyt kansainvälistymisen myötä meillekin. Kulttuurisia innovaatioita ei sen mukaan saa levittää ja muokata, vaan ne pitää säilöä. Tämä siis "innovaationa" itsekin levinneen woke-liikkeen mukaan.

Läntinen maailma alkaa vaikuttaa koko ajan yhä suuremmalta pahkasialta. 

Jos joku olisi innovaatioiden leviämistä kulttuurista toiseen tutkimista propagoivassa tilaisuudessa 30-vuotta sitten yliopistolla julistanut - "Innovaatioiden leviämisen olevan "riistämistä" ja "appropriaatiota", niin julistajaa olisi pidettty vähäjärkisenä, koska tosiaan nykyiset yhteiskunnat ovat muodostuneet suurelta osalta muualta omaksuttujen innovaatioiden omaksumisen ja muokkaamisen pohjalle. Mutta 2020 luvulla tämä ei käy. Innovaatiot pitää julistaa kulttuurikohtaisiksi ja niiden leviäminen, soveltaminen ja muokkaaminen kieltää rangaistuksen uhalla! ;)

Ja mikä tekee sen vielä huvittavammaksi, suuri osa wokea tunnustavista on useimmiten myös vasemmistolaisia/sosialistisia aatteita helliviä. Silti he ovat humahtaneet "immateriaalioikeudelliseen" ajatteluun kulttuuristen innovaatioiden kohdalla. Siis, innovaation käyttö/soveltamiskielto muille, kuin pienelle ryhmälle. Tämä selkeästi analoginen immateriaali/tekijänoikeuksien perään vannominen ponnistaa puhtaasti kapitalismista ja on hyvin tuore ilmiö ihmiskunnassa. Se, että sosialistit syöksyvät rajoittamaan aineettomien innovaatioiden, joilla ei ole selkeää yksittäistä keksijää, vapaata käyttöä on ihmeellistä. Joku 3-50 vuotta sitten, jos joku olisi kommarien piirissä propagoinut aineettomien innovaatioiden leviämisen estämisen ja vapaan käytön estämisen puolesta , niin towerit olisivat heittäneet pihalle revarina/kapitalistina. Kun sosialismiin kuuluu yhteisomistus, jossa tosiaan ei edes ihmisryhmiä eritelty. Koko "tekijänoikeus" oli sosialismissa ja komminismissa täysin käsittämätön ajatus. Kaiken immateriaalisen katsottiin olevan "ihmiskunnan yhteistä omaisuutta", varsinkin kun myös materiaalisenkin katsottiin olevan "yhteistä".

Nyt vasemmistolainen wokettaja julistaa alunperin puhtaasti kapitalistista "tekijänoikeusnäkökulmaa" . ;)  Tämä on toki hyödyllistä nykyisen kapitalismin ja kiinalaisen kapitalismin kannalta, kun tekijänoikeudet ja niiden kunnioittaminen syötetään vasemmistolaisten selkärankaan jo koulussa/yliopistossa. Ja opetetaan indoktrinoidut olemaan edes kyseenalaistamatta tekijänoikeuksia ja ennen kaikkea niiden rajaa. Nythän ollaan menossa jopa teknisissä laitteissa, vaikkapa maatalouskoneissa ja Tesloissa sekä muissa autoissa siihen, että laitteessa olevat toiminnalliset ominaisuudet vuokrataan sinulle, vaikka omistat itse sen laitteen/koneen/auton. Maksat kuukausimaksua silti siitä, että saat käyttää autosi lisävarusteita! Joskus 80/90-luvulla Suomessakin asenteet olivat laajasti tekijänoikeuksia kohtaan olivat radikaalimpia, kuin nykyinen piraattipuolueen linja. Idea, että ostat auton, jossa on itsessään ne ominaisuudet, mutta että voit käyttää niitä, sinun pitää maksaa vuokraa auton valmistajalle olisi naurettu suohon.  Nyt ollaan valmiita myöntämään aineettomalle kansanrymän kulttuurille, jolla ei ole selvää keksijää  "tekijänoikeussuojaa ja oikeuksia". Woketus tuottaa selkeästi korporaatiokapitalismille jo tulosta!

Tällä kehityksellä kohta maksetaan saamelaisrumpua jotenkin muistuttavan rummun käytöstä/omistamisesta tai kampauksesta, jossa on pikkulettejä rahaa jollekin instituutiolle, jonka johto käyttää rahat miten haluavat... Kulttuurin teslaistaminen etenee. Raha siirtyy taskusta taskuun ja joka hetki syntyy uusi indoktrinoitu koijattava.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.03.2023, 15:21:10
Kaikkeen edelliseen ^^ jeps!

Ja hieman ohi aiheesta: kaikkeen edelliseen liittyen ja siitä huolimatta: monissa asioissa maailman suosituin tietokoneiden käyttöjärjestelmä, Linux, on alkujaan suomalaisen kommunistin lapsen kehittelemä idea: tehdään koodi ilmaiseksi, ja annetaan se ilmaiseksi pois ... kaikki mukaan!

Ja "kaikki" lähtivät mukaan, omasta halustaan, esimerkin innostamina.

Jollain tasolla, nimittäin vapaaehtoisuuden tasolla, vapaaehtoinen yhteistyö - voisimmeko sanoa kollektiivisuus, en tiedä -  voi saada aikaan hämmentäviä lopputuloksia, jo meidän maailmanaikanamme.

Mutta se perustuu vapaaehtoisuuteen. Hämmästyttävästi tämä yksisarvinen utopia toimii, kun sitä saa toteuttaa vapaaehtoisesti, pakottamatta, omasta halusta, omalla ajalla, omilla resursseilla, jopa äidin kellarista tai isän autotallista, ja ilman pelkoa jäähakusta omassa otsassa Meksikossa.

^^^

Tämä woke on täydellisen perkeleellinen vastakohta sille mitä Linux todistetusti on. Woke on vähän kuin Platonin "Valtio" *, jossa teoretisoidaan miten asioiden teoriassa pitäisi olla.

* Wiki: "... yksi vaikutusvaltaisimpia teoksia länsimaisessa filosofisessa kirjallisuudessa. "

Kommunisti-totalitaristit tykkäävät teoksesta, koska:

Quote from: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valtio_(Platon)- "Kirjoissa V–VI rikkauksien hylkääminen hallitsevassa luokassa johtaa myös perheen hylkäämiseen. Lasten ei tullut tietää omia vanhempiaan eikä vanhempien omia lapsiaan. "

Quote from: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valtio_(Platon)- "Hallitsijat kokoaisivat pareja lisääntymistä varten perustuen valtion jalostuksellisiin tarpeisiin – vakaa populaatio saadaan siis eugeniikan avulla. Sosiaalisen koheesion eli kiinnevoiman katsottiin olevan suuri, koska perheen korvasi koko valtion kansa. "

Quote from: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valtio_(Platon)- "Ihannevaltiota tulee Platonin mukaan suojella taiteen rappeuttavalta vaikutukselta. Sen lisäksi että taide on lähtökohtaisesti valheellista, on se myös haitallista, koska se rohkaisee tunteellisuuteen järkevyyden sijasta. Siksi taiteen tulee olla valtion tarkassa valvonnassa. "

Tässä törmäävät yhteen

a) käyttöjärjestelmä Linuxin idea - täydellinen yksilönvapaus auttaa omasta halusta ihmiskuntaa, ja

b) elinistikommunistien pyrkimys alistaa ihmiskunta sotilassaappaan alle, joka naamioidaan hyväntekeväisyyden kaapuun.
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Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 02.03.2023, 05:51:20
^vautsi,

hyvin sanottu. Linux on juuri sitä mitä kansalaisyhteiskunta ja todellinen, oikea demokratia voi saada aikaan. Ei se mitään kommunismia ole, vaan että ajatellaan että tommoinen homma hoituu paremmin näin. Linushan suhtautuu myönteisesti kaupalliseen käyttöön ihan vapaasti, toisin kuin esim Stallman. Guruillehan se meinaa että konsultoinnille on paljon mahdollisuuksia!

Erityisesti avoin lähdekoodi näyttää että mitään vakoiluja ja kusetuksia ei vaan ole!

Iso vastavoima tuossa oli jo alussa Microsoft, mistä kukaan ei tiennyt miksi se kaatuili ja sekoili. Tämä siis silloin 1990-l alussa.
..no tuohon täytyy laitta välianekdootti, OS/2 sen sijaan toimi kuin junan vessa, ja kaatuilut oikeasti korjattiin...

Mutta isossa lopputulemassa "kansalaisyhteiskunnan" tuottama Linux on laadukkaampi ja turvallisempi kuin kaupalliset Windows ja MacOS.
Se ei silti ole kommunismia.


Platonismi on sen sijaan aika kehno valtio-oppi. Tuossa lainauksessahan on selkeä yhteys Maon Punaiseen Kirjaan.
"Tämän päivän maailmassa kaikki kulttuuri, kaikki kirjallisuus ja taide kuuluvat tietyille luokille ja kytkeytyvät tiettyihin poliittisiin linjoihin. Taidetta taiteen vuoksi, luokkien yläpuolella olevaa taidetta, politiikasta erillään olevaa tai siitä riippumatonta taidetta ei itse asiassa ole olemassa. Proletaarinen kirjallisuus ja taide ovat osa koko proletariaatin vallankumouksellista asiaa; kuten Lenin sanoi, ne ovat hammasrattaita ja ruuveja koko vallankumouksen koneistossa."






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Post by: -PPT- on 04.03.2023, 01:33:11
Tuosta Scott Adamsin julistuksesta kyllä tulee kuolematon meemi: "The best advice I can give to white people is to get the fuck away from black people" ;D ;D
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Post by: Pallopääkissa on 04.03.2023, 02:14:38
Oliko se tämä?
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Post by: ikuturso on 04.03.2023, 18:31:45
Quote from: Circus Hypno on 01.03.2023, 09:39:19
Onneksi wokettajien mielestä ei ole ongelmallista se, että James Bondilla on edelleen uusiksi kirjoitetuissakin versioissa lupa tappaa.

Varhaisen vaiheen Lucky Lukeissa tämä saattoi ampua jonkun hengiltä. Phil Deferin väitetään alkuperäisversiossa kuolleen, mutta taisi kuitenkin saada luodin vain olkapäähänsä suomennoksessa. Sittemmin Lucky Luke lakkasi käärimästä sätkiä ja suupieleen tuli sätkän sijasta heinänkorsi.

Nämä ovat ihan ymmärrettävää linjan muutosta, jos itse piirtäjä siihen lähtee. Mutta eipä sitä sätkää ole jälkeenpäin editoitu Lucky Luken suusta pois niistä vanhemmista albumeista. Ainoa, mikä jälkeenpäin siivotaan on näemmä rasismi ja pöytäliinaan tarttuvat kädet.

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Post by: JiM on 04.03.2023, 19:28:32
https://gab.com/ILoveAmericaNews/posts/109964795766221024
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Post by: JiM on 04.03.2023, 22:09:51
https://gab.com/BreckWorshamOfficial/posts/109964929989089133
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Post by: JiM on 04.03.2023, 23:34:15
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QoQf5lCs6lA
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Post by: Bona on 08.03.2023, 09:46:45
Olisiko kellään Salon seudun sanomiin lukuoikeutta? Tämä todella kiinnostaisi:

https://www.sss.fi/2023/03/mustamaen-koulu-kielsi-syrjivaksi-katsotun-oppilastyon-tasa-arvovaltuutetulta-pyydettiin-kannanottoa-erityisesti-sukupuolia-on-kaksi-virkkeeseen/

QuoteLapsi kirjoitti, että sukupuolia on vain kaksi – Salolaiskoulu otti yhteyttä tasa-arvovaltuutettuun
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Post by: SatuSetä on 08.03.2023, 10:36:59
Quote from: Bona on 08.03.2023, 09:46:45
Olisiko kellään Salon seudun sanomiin lukuoikeutta? Tämä todella kiinnostaisi:

https://www.sss.fi/2023/03/mustamaen-koulu-kielsi-syrjivaksi-katsotun-oppilastyon-tasa-arvovaltuutetulta-pyydettiin-kannanottoa-erityisesti-sukupuolia-on-kaksi-virkkeeseen/

QuoteLapsi kirjoitti, että sukupuolia on vain kaksi – Salolaiskoulu otti yhteyttä tasa-arvovaltuutettuun

Ei ole tunnuksia, mutta ohessa päätös kokonaisuudessaan.

https://tasa-arvo.fi/-/koululla-ja-opetuksen-jarjestajalla-on-paitsi-oikeus-myos-velvollisuus-puuttua-hairintaan-ja-syrjivaan-kaytokseen-tas-89-2023-annettu-21.2.2023-

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Tasa-arvovaltuutetulta pyydettiin kannanottoa koulun mahdollisuudesta kieltää oppilastyö, joka sisältää seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöön kuuluvia vastaan suunnatun viestin. Kannanottoa pyydettiin erityisesti virkkeeseen "sukupuolia on vain kaksi."

Tasa-arvolain mukaan opetuksen järjestäjällä on velvollisuus ennaltaehkäistä sukupuoli-identiteettiin tai sukupuolen ilmaisuun perustuvaa syrjintää tavoitteellisesti ja suunnitelmallisesti. Myös oppilaitoksen tulee ottaa tämä huomioon tasa-arvosuunnitelmaa laadittaessa ja sukupuolten tasa-arvoa edistävistä toimenpiteistä päätettäessä.

Saadessaan tiedon häirinnästä taikka syrjivästä tai turvallista oppimisympäristöä vaarantavasta toiminnasta opetuksen järjestäjän ja koulun on ryhdyttävä toimenpiteisiin häirinnän, syrjinnän tai turvallista oppimisympäristöä vaarantavan toiminnan ehkäisemiseksi ja poistamiseksi. Mikäli oppilaitos tai opetuksen järjestäjä ei ryhtyisi käytettävissä oleviin toimiin estääkseen häirinnän tai syrjinnän jatkumisen, syyllistyisi oppilaitos tai opetuksen järjestäjä tasa-arvolaissa kiellettyyn syrjintään.

Tasa-arvovaltuutettu toteaa mm. kertomuksessaan eduskunnalle 2022 ja 2018 sekä selvityksessään sukupuolivähemmistöjen asemasta 2012, että sukupuoli on moninainen ilmiö, joka ei ole pelkistettävissä vain kahteen, toisistaan selvästi erotettavaan sukupuoleen. Sukupuoli-identiteetti on henkilön kokemus omasta sukupuolestaan. Tasa-arvolain esitöissä todetaan, henkilö voi kokea olevansa esimerkiksi sukupuoleton tai osittain nainen ja osittain mies. Sukupuolen ilmaisu puolestaan on sukupuolen tuomista esiin pukeutumisella, käytöksellä tai muulla vastaavalla tavalla. Myös Opetushallituksen vuonna 2015 perusopetukseen suunnatussa Tasa-arvotyö on taitolaji -oppaassa todetaan, että kokemus omasta sukupuolesta ei aina mahdu kaksinapaiseen sukupuolijärjestelmään.

Tasa-arvovaltuutettu muistuttaa perusopetuksen järjestäjää ja koulua siitä, että molemmilla on tasa-arvolakiin perustuva velvollisuus huolehtia sukupuoleen, sukupuoli-identiteettiin ja sukupuolen ilmaisuun perustuvan syrjinnän kiellon noudattamisesta. Perusopetuksen järjestäjällä ja koululla on paitsi oikeus myös velvollisuus puuttua tilanteeseen tai esimerkiksi yksittäisen oppilaan toimintaan, joka syrjii tai loukkaa sukupuolivähemmistöön kuuluvia muita oppilaita. Lisäksi opetuksen järjestäjällä ja koululla on velvollisuus edistää sukupuolten tasa-arvoa sekä ennaltaehkäistä sukupuoli-identiteettiin ja sukupuolen ilmaisuun perustuvaa syrjintää tavoitteellisesti ja suunnitelmallisesti.

Koululla on näin ollen ollut tasa-arvolain nojalla paitsi oikeus myös velvollisuus kieltää oppilastyö, joka on sisältänyt seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjä syrjivän ja loukkaavan viestin.
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Post by: Voitto Ankka on 08.03.2023, 13:29:14
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Tasa-arvolain esitöissä todetaan, henkilö voi kokea olevansa esimerkiksi sukupuoleton tai osittain nainen ja osittain mies

Eli montako niitä sukupuolia nyt sitten on? En minä tuostakaan laskien niitä löydä kuin kaksi.

j.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: SatuSetä on 09.03.2023, 00:05:18
"Tutkija" Saresmalta on taas kysytty hankalia kysymyksiä ja apuun ovat rientäneet myös muut samanhenkiset "tutkijat" ja muut kollaboraattorit. Eihän se nyt vaan käy laatuun, että naistenpäivänä YK:hon asti puhumaan lähetetty "tutkija" osaisi määritellä edes sanan "nainen".

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/lukiolainen-kysyi-sukupuolentutkijalta-mika-on-nainen-valtion-vihapuheselvitysta-tehnyt-tutkija-aloitti-valittoman-fasistileimaamisen/

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Lukiolainen nuorisopoliitikko Mats Uotila kysyi Twitterissä sukupuolentutkimuksen dosentilta Tuija Saresmalta, pystyisikö hän tarjoamaan määritelmää sanalle "nainen". Saresma kierteli kysymystä, alkoi ensin puhua mm. patriarkaatista, sanoi, että hänellä on tärkeämpääkin tekemistä ja kehotti sitten lukiolaista käymään kursseja sukupuolentutkimuksesta. Kun Uotila ihmetteli, ettei tutkija vastannut kysymykseen, Saresma syytti Uotilaa provosoinnista sekä vihjasi hänen edustavan "superkonservatiivista" puhetta. Vihapuhetta tutkiva aktivisti Sami Eerola puolestaan tulkitsi Uotilan kysymyksen fasistien ja äärioikeiston propagandaksi. Rosa Meriläinen taas syytti Uotilaa "tutkijan kiusaamisesta". Edistyksellisimpien mukaan ei siis ole enää sopivaa määritellä sanaa "nainen".

Naistenpäivän alla suomalaisessa julkisessa keskustelussa nähtiin järjetön näytös. Sukupuolentutkimukseen erikoistunut dosentti kieltäytyi vastaamasta kysymykseen "mikä on nainen?". Lopulta kysyjää – lukiossa opiskelevaa Mats Uotilaa – syytettiin äärioikeistolaisuudesta ja kiusaamisesta. Uotila on kokoomuslainen nuorisopoliitikko.

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Mats Uotila kommentoi sukupuolentutkimukseen erikoistuneen tutkijan päivitystä ja kysyi: "Kun olet menossa naisten asemaa käsittelevään tapahtumaan edustajaksi niin onnistuisitko sinä määrittelemään sanan "nainen"?

Saresma väisti kysymyksen ja yritti siirtää maalitolppia "patriarkaattiin" ja nyky-yhteiskunnan "tuputtamaan" "kapeaan" miehen roolimalliin:

"Täällä puhutaan nyt naisista ja tytöistä ja LGBTQI+-ihmisistä ja kaikista sukupuolista, joiden asemaa patriarkaatti vaikeuttaa. Siis huom. myös miesten, jotka eivät mahdu siihen kapeaan malliin, jota usein yritetään tuputtaa. Aukesiko sinulle yhtään, Mats?"

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"Täällä YK:ssa tunnistaa tuon diskurssin: se on samaa superkonservatiivista puhetta, jota eilen kuultiin Unkarin ja Valko-Venäjän puheenvuoroissa yleisistunnossa muiden maiden käyttäessä puheenvuoronsa tasa-arvon ja rauhan edistämiseen. Pelottavaa että Suomessakin kannattajia!"

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Tapaus sattui samaan aikaan kun Suomessa levisi toinen sukupuoli-ideologiaa koskeva kohu. Salolaiskoulun oppilas oli kirjoittanut kangaskassiin "sukupuolia on vain kaksi". Koulu oli ottanut yhteyttä tasa-arvovaltuutettuun. Maanantaina tasaarvovaluutettu julisti päätöksestään kieltää syrjiväksi koettu oppilastyö. Tämän lisäksi tasa-arvovaltuutettu velvoittaa oppilaitoksia puuttumaan vastaaviin tapauksiin myös vastaisuudessa.

Perussuomalaisten puheenjohtaja Riikka Purra kommentoi tapausta: "Siinä oikea naistenpäivän uutinen – kun lapsi ei saa koulussa väittää, että sukupuolia on kaksi. Ei ole todella ihme, että arkisairaassa maailmassa monen mieli menee rikki."

Kun naistenpäivä käy mailleen, edistyksellisin vasemmisto on ehtinyt kieltämään naiset sekä syyttämään koulutyötään tekevää koululaista vähemmistöjen syrjinnästä.

Linkistä hieman lisää asiaa.
Title: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Pentecost on 09.03.2023, 09:18:37
Et silleen...huuhaauskontoa ja -tiedettä pusketaan nyt täysillä nuorien mieliin.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/a59295dc-6fe3-429c-a607-8baf7e28793f

QuoteTasa-arvovaltuutettu pitää koulun velvollisuutena kieltää oppilaan koulutyö, joka sisälsi seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjä syrjivän ja loukkaavan viestin.

Salolaisen Mustamäen koulun oppilas kirjoitti koulutyöhön, että "sukupuolia on vain kaksi". Koulu pyysi tasa-arvovaltuutettua ottamaan kantaa kyseisen oppilastyön kieltämiselle sen seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöihin kuuluvia loukkaavan viestin takia.

Kannassaan tasa-arvovaltuutettu nostaa esille koulun velvollisuuden ryhtyä toimenpiteisiin häirinnän, syrjinnän tai turvallisen oppimisympäristön vaarantavan toiminnan ehkäisemiseksi ja poistamiseksi. Jos näin ei toimita, oppilaitos syyllistyy tasa-arvolaissa kiellettyyn syrjintään.

Tasa-arvovaltuutettu on todennut aiemmissakin selvityksissään, että sukupuoli "on moninainen ilmiö, joka ei ole pelkistettävissä vain kahteen, toisistaan selvästi eroavaan sukupuoleen". Viranomainen muistuttaa, että sukupuoli-identiteetti on henkilön kokemus omasta sukupuolestaan ja myös Opetushallituksen oppaassa todetaan tämän sukupuoli-identiteetin skaalan olevan kahta vaihtoehtoa laajempi.

Tää touhu alkaa lähtemään niin sanotusti lapasesta, joten parempi etten kommentoi mitään.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Emo on 09.03.2023, 09:25:40
Rikosilmoitus on tehtävä salolaisesta koulusta ja tasa-arvovaltuutetusta, koulun pitää olla poliittisesti, ideologisesti ja uskonnollisesti neutraali, ja biologinen tieteellinen fakta on, että sukupuolia on ihmisellä normaalisti vain kaksi, mies ja nainen.
Pään sisällä ihmisellä voi olla mitä vaan ja kuinka monta vaan, mutta koulun pitää pysyä faktoissa ja jättää larppaukset hoidettaviksi psykiatrian osaajille.

Suomen koululaitos on täysin romahtanut muutenkin kuin pelkästään PISA-tulosten valossa, on kommunisti Li Andersson todella hengenheimolaisineen jättänyt puumerkkinsä suomalaiseen koulumaailmaan.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Pentecost on 09.03.2023, 09:41:01
Miten esimerkiksi opettaa biologiaa "oikeaoppisesti"?  :facepalm:

Kokeeseen voi siis vastata kysymyksestä sukupuolien määrästä ihan mitä huttua tahansa määrällisesti ja kokemusperustaisesti? Kromosomeista viis kunhan kaikki muu vaan tulee suoraan kokemusperäisestä Totuuden Ministeriöstä?

Elämme vahvasti Orwellin ja kaksoispuheen aikaa. Doublethink on indoktrinaatioprosessi, jossa koehenkilöiden odotetaan hyväksyvän samanaikaisesti kaksi ristiriitaista uskomusta totuudeksi, jotka ovat usein ristiriidassa oman muistinsa tai todellisuustajunsa kanssa.

Tätäkö me vanhemmat ja aikuiset ihmiset ihan oikeasti kannatamme? Minulla on useita homoja ja marginaali-ihmisiä lähipiirissä ja monet heistä ovat osoittaneet paheksuntansa tätä mielipuolisuutta vastaan. Hiljaisesti tosin, kun se kuulemma aktiivisin ja äänekkäin osa vähemmistöistä on hyvin aggressiivisesti syrjäyttämässä tai bannaamassa, jos oman vaatimattoman mielipiteensä esittää.

Mikä on seuraava vaihe? Lasten ottaminen huostaan, kun selvästi perheessä ei ymmärretä Oikeaa Totuutta ja Tiedettä?

Herätkää jo nyt!  >:(
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: sutki on 09.03.2023, 10:28:24
IL: "Mustamäen koulun oppilaat ovat 1–6 luokkalaisia. Salon vs. perusopetusjohtaja Jaana Talvitie ilmoitti Salon Seudun Sanomille, ettei tapausta ja oppilastyötä aiota avata sen enempää. Lapsen ikää ja koulutyön laatua ei siis haluta kertoa."

Onkohan kyseessä ollut ainekirjoitus, koe vai jotakin muuta?
Sen verran mielenkiintoinen linjaus että toivottavasti oppilas ja/tai hänen vanhempansa tulevat asian johdosta julkisuuteen.

Kun asiaan puututtiin noinkin järein keinoin niin oletan oppilaan ja perheensä olevan kantasuomalaisia ateisteja tai kristittyjä.
Mutuna arvelen ettei asiaan olisi puututtu mikäli oppilas olisikin islaminuskoinen.

Saattaa toki olla että perheen ja koulun välit ovat jo ennestään viileät ja tapahtunut oli jatkumoa kiistelylle esim. opetussuunnitelmasta ja sen sisällöstä.


Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Herbert on 09.03.2023, 11:03:40
Kuva oppilastyöstä:
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Lahti-Saloranta on 09.03.2023, 11:05:58
Quote from: Emo on 09.03.2023, 09:25:40
Rikosilmoitus on tehtävä salolaisesta koulusta ja tasa-arvovaltuutetusta, koulun pitää olla poliittisesti, ideologisesti ja uskonnollisesti neutraali, ja biologinen tieteellinen fakta on, että sukupuolia on ihmisellä normaalisti vain kaksi, mies ja nainen.
Pään sisällä ihmisellä voi olla mitä vaan ja kuinka monta vaan, mutta koulun pitää pysyä faktoissa ja jättää larppaukset hoidettaviksi psykiatrian osaajille.

Suomen koululaitos on täysin romahtanut muutenkin kuin pelkästään PISA-tulosten valossa, on kommunisti Li Andersson todella hengenheimolaisineen jättänyt puumerkkinsä suomalaiseen koulumaailmaan.
Toinen vaihtoehto on tehdä kantelu eduskunnan oikeusasiamiehelle. Sekään ei johda mihinkään joe edes ottaa asiaa käsittelyyn. Juju onkin siinä että pakottaa oikeusasiamiehen ottamaan hantaa siihen tuleeko kouluopetuksessa kieltää tosiasioiden julkituominen jos ne voivat loukata jotain vähemmistöä. Herkullinen tapaus sikäli että kyseessä 1-6 luokkalaiset lapset joten siinä porukassa ei taida olla seksuaalisia vähemmistöjä, on vain tyttöjä ja poikia. Se valitus kannattaisi pohjustaa hyvin, lausunto joltakin lääkäriltä siitä että sukupuolia on todella vain kaksi. Sitten toinen lausunto joltakin psykologilta mitä tuollainen oppilastyn bannaaminen lapseen vaikuttaa. Tokihan jutun pitäisi olla mahdollisimman julkinen.
Juttu on ihan oikeasti todella korni, käydä nyt pienen lapsen kimppuun opettajan ja tasa-arvovaltuutetun toimesta vain siksi että lapsi on sitä mieltä että sukupuolia on vain kaksi. Naurettavinta koko jutussa on se että kyseessä alakoululaisen koulutehtävä, kuka siitä loukkaantuu niin saa vapaasti loukkaantua jos ei tajua että kyseessä on lapsen koulutehtävä.
Kasvavalle lapselle on kehityksen kannalta tärkeää saada opettajan hyväksyntä. Tuo tapaus takuuvarmasti jää lapsen mieleen loppuiäksi epäasiallisena kohteluna. Jää se mieleen myös lapsen luokkakavereillekin pelokkeena siitä jos et papukaijan tavoin toista sitä mitä sinulle tuputetaan.
Jos tuo lapsi olisi alkanut riehumaan, särkemään toisten töilä haukkuen heitä persurasisteiksi ja opettaja olisi poistanut hänet luokasta niin koulu ja opettaja olisi kusessa. Opettaja olisi saanut potkut ja tasa-arvovaltuutettu olisi antanut lausunnon siitä että kyllä lapsella oli oikeus tuoda mielipiteensä esiin ja koulun tulee tukea lapsen oikeutta ilmaista itseään.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Lahti-Saloranta on 09.03.2023, 11:29:00
Quote from: Herbert on 09.03.2023, 11:03:40
Kuva oppilastyöstä:
Oikeastaan tuosta julkaisusta pitäisi tehdä tutkintapyyntö kiihotuksesta hansanryhmää vastaan nyt.kun julkaisemasi kuva on saanut suuremman yleisön. Selvästi kiihottava ja sukupuolivähemmistöjä loukkaavahan tuo kuva on minkä on todennut itse tasa-arvo valtuutettu. Vielä jos saisi oikein ruuhkan noista tutkintapyynnöistä niin olisipa poliisilla tutkimista.
Ihan oikeasti ei voi kuin ihmetellä sitä mihin on menty. Eihän tuossa piirustuksessa ole kerrassaan mitään eikä ketään loukkaavaa. On vain lapsen kannaotto vouhotukseen mikä ei oikeastaa kuulu koulun tehtäviin, ei varsinkaan alaluokkalaisten opetukseen.
Tuo alustus oli läpällä heitetty mutta en ole vakuuttunut siitä että moinen tutkintapyyntö lentäisi roskikseen. En kyllä hämmästyisi siitäkään että tuomio kiihotuksesta tulisi.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: ämpee on 09.03.2023, 11:32:32
Quote from: kädetön koululaitosSalolaisen Mustamäen koulun oppilas kirjoitti koulutyöhön, että "sukupuolia on vain kaksi". Koulu pyysi tasa-arvovaltuutettua ottamaan kantaa kyseisen oppilastyön kieltämiselle sen seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöihin kuuluvia loukkaavan viestin takia.

Ennenwanhaan olisi annettu huono arvosana ja asia olisi ollut siinä, mutta nykyään lähdetään revittelemään koko koulun voimin uskonnon kieltäjää pyhän opin vastustajaa vääräuskoista toisinajattelijaa vastaan valtakunnan ylähyllyiltä kainalosauvoja kerjäten.
Heikkoa on aines nykyään näissä muotipiireissä.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: jmk on 09.03.2023, 11:43:13
Quote from: Herbert on 09.03.2023, 11:03:40
Kuva oppilastyöstä:

Mistä kuva on peräisin?
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Atte Saarela on 09.03.2023, 11:55:20
Sateenkaariyhteisön pitäisi nyt keksiä uusi sana jolla voidaan puhua "koetusta sukupuolesta"

On selkeästi epätosi väite sanoa että "koettuja sukupuolia on vain kaksi", koska tietysti kuka tahansa voi kokea asioita ihan miten vain, vaikka ei siitä tietysti hermostua tarvitse jos joku päästää suustaan väitteen joka on selkeästi epätosi.

Siinä taas ei ole mitään järkeä, että sateenkaariyhteisö yrittää vallata käsitteen sukupuoli omaksi "alueekseen", muuttaa sen merkitystä ja sitten alkaa hössöttää siitä jos kaikki eivät halua lähteä mukaan tähän uudelleenmäärittelyyn.,
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Fiftari on 09.03.2023, 12:20:58
Nyt sitten laitettiin suukapula. Sen sijaan että olisi annettu tehdä tuo kassi ja asiasta ei olisi tullut yhtään melua, tuskin kukaan olisi vetänyt tuosta hernettä nenään jos projekti olisi toteutettu, paitsi ehkä mädättäjäopettaja tai jonkun edistyksellisempi vanhempi. Sen sijaan että asiasta olisi käyty keskustelua, fasistisesti kielletään mielipiteiden ilmaiseminen. Parempien ihmisten mielestä on jo pitkään ollut vaarallista että tosiasioista puhutaan.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Lahti-Saloranta on 09.03.2023, 13:26:54
Quote from: kädetön koululaitosSalolaisen Mustamäen koulun oppilas kirjoitti koulutyöhön, että "sukupuolia on vain kaksi". Koulu pyysi tasa-arvovaltuutettua ottamaan kantaa kyseisen oppilastyön kieltämiselle sen seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöihin kuuluvia loukkaavan viestin takia.
Ensilukemalta ei heti oivalla sitä kuinka päätön juttu tämä on. Piirustuksen tekijä kuvan laadusta päätellen on arviolta 10 vuotias lapsi. Sitten koulu, aikuiset ihmiset pyytävät tasa-arvolaltuutetun lausuntoa siitä oliko piirustuksen bannaus oikein. Mitä hittoa se tasa-arvovaltuutetulle kuuluu jonkun lapsen koulutehtävän arviointi. Koko lausunnon pyyntö on täysin älyvapaa juttu. Vielä älyttömämpi juttu on se kun tasa-arvovaltuutettu menee antamaan lausunnon ja vielä tuollaisen. Olisi vastannut että kyseessä lapsen koulutehtävä eikä sen sopivuuden arviointi kuulu tasa-arvovaltuutetun toimenkuvaan.
Jos se että sanoo että sukupuolia on vain kaksi loukkaa seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjä niin eikö se että väittää että niitä on useampia loukkaa uskonnollisia vähemmistöjä.
Sinällään koko juttu on naurettava mutta toisaalta erittäin vakava. Se paljastaa sen kuinka pahasti tämä yhteiskunta on onnistuttu mädättämään. Valitettavasti se mädätys on levinnyt kaikkialle eikä totuuden puhujalle ole sijaa. Joakim Wigelius erotettiin yliopiston kurssilta kun epäili ettei miehillä ole kuukautisia. Yliopistostahan noita Mustamäen koulunkin opettajia kouluttaa, sieltä kun oppinsa ammentaa niin tulokset näkyy Pisa tuloksista. Turha on koulun resursipulaa valittaa kun on taustajoukot käytettävissä tasa-arvovaltuutettua myöten.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: jmk on 09.03.2023, 13:38:30
Tasa-arvovaltuutetun nimittää valtioneuvosto viideksi vuodeksi kerrallaan.

Nykyisen nimitti vuonna 2017 Sipilän hallitus, ja 2022 Marinin hallitus nimitti hänet uudelle kaudelle.

Siinäpä saadaan mitä on tilattu.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Tabula Rasa on 09.03.2023, 13:50:31
Quote from: Atte Saarela on 09.03.2023, 11:55:20
Sateenkaariyhteisön pitäisi nyt keksiä uusi sana jolla voidaan puhua "koetusta sukupuolesta"

On selkeästi epätosi väite sanoa että "koettuja sukupuolia on vain kaksi", koska tietysti kuka tahansa voi kokea asioita ihan miten vain, vaikka ei siitä tietysti hermostua tarvitse jos joku päästää suustaan väitteen joka on selkeästi epätosi.

Siinä taas ei ole mitään järkeä, että sateenkaariyhteisö yrittää vallata käsitteen sukupuoli omaksi "alueekseen", muuttaa sen merkitystä ja sitten alkaa hössöttää siitä jos kaikki eivät halua lähteä mukaan tähän uudelleenmäärittelyyn.,

Kun koko pointtinsa on nimenmaan alkaa muokata kieltä sanamagialla. Ja itse sekopäisiksi väännetyillä määritelmillään hallita keskustelua.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 09.03.2023, 14:35:55
Mikko Ketovuorelta on ilmestynyt kirja Laumavaiston varassa. Mielenkiitoista tavaraa. ("Laumavaisto vie kansaa kuin litran mittaa. Bileet alkavat kohta olla ohi, sorry.") Tässä nyt ensin tätä wokea:

Quote from: https://twitter.com/MKetovuori/status/1633529589778595841Mikko Ketovuori @MKetovuori

Woken kaava =
ketä tahansa voidaan syyttää
+ mistä tahansa
+ milloin vain
+ asioista, joita ei ole tapahtunut tai jotka tahallisesti tulkitaan väärin.

Sitten pitäisi ihmetellä kun yhteiskunta hajoaa...
hyvä Suomi, usko tai älä, vielä voi mennä huonomminkin.

Mar 8, 2023

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Mikko Ketovuori @MKetovuori

Varoitus: Normaalioloissa ihmiset käyttäytyvät moraalisesti taktisista syistä, sekasorron aikana tuota rajoitetta ei enää ole. Ihmisen todellinen luonne tulee silloin näkyviin.

Mikko Ketovuori - Lauma on päättänyt, että Suomi syöksyy | Heikelä & Koskelo 23 minuuttia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=zfJqu3HLzow
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: SatuSetä on 09.03.2023, 15:41:41
Quote from: jmk on 09.03.2023, 13:38:30
Tasa-arvovaltuutetun nimittää valtioneuvosto viideksi vuodeksi kerrallaan.

Nykyisen nimitti vuonna 2017 Sipilän hallitus, ja 2022 Marinin hallitus nimitti hänet uudelle kaudelle.

Siinäpä saadaan mitä on tilattu.

Virkamiesnimityksissä ja useissa muissakin nimityksissä on nimenomaan kausi 5 vuotta. En usko sen olevan sattumaa, vaan kauden pituus on nimenomaan räätälöity siten, että nimitys elää yli hallintokauden. Persut voisivat kokeilla ehdottaa, että lyhennetään kausi vaikkapa 2-3 vuodeksi, silloin olisi mahdollisuus myös arvioida kunkin hallituksen nimeämisten oikeellisuutta, ominaisuuksia ja rehellisyyttä ihan hallituskauden aikana.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Pentecost on 09.03.2023, 15:57:24
QuoteKoulu pyysi tasa-arvovaltuutettua ottamaan kantaa kyseisen oppilastyön kieltämiselle

Minua kiinnostaisi ihan käytännössä, että miten kielletään vapaassa maassa jokin oppilastyö? Tuleeko jo etukäteen ohjeet, miten palvoa multikultia oikeaoppisesti ja oikein sanankääntein? Saako satiiria tai sarkasmia ollenkaan viljellä?

Mä vanhempana saisin sellaisen raivarin, että varmaan kirjoittaisin ko. koulun seinään metrisin kirjaimin sukupuolia olevan kaksi aina niin kauan kuin joutuisin linnaan siitä. Saataisiin tähänkin fasistiseen valtioon muutama mielipidevanki aikaiseksi.

Miettikää nyt kuinka sairasta on tälläinen sensuuri 7-13 -vuotiaiden lasten kohdalla. Oppivat varmaan rakastamaan Isoa Veljeä näillä aivopesumetodeilla. Joopa joo.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Tabula Rasa on 09.03.2023, 15:59:18
Quote from: jmk on 09.03.2023, 11:43:13
Quote from: Herbert on 09.03.2023, 11:03:40
Kuva oppilastyöstä:

Mistä kuva on peräisin?

Veikkaisin Junes Lokan twitteriä:

[tweet]1633746726912770049[/tweet]

Jo keretty hyvin tuotteistaa tämän:
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Nikolas on 09.03.2023, 16:12:21
Quote from: Tabula Rasa on 09.03.2023, 15:59:18

Jo keretty hyvin tuotteistaa tämän:


Kiitettävän nopeaa reagointia. Toivottavasti tässä tapauksessa tuotot menevät artistille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eino P. Keravalta on 09.03.2023, 16:14:55
Hyvissä käsissä tämä maa on kun 10-vuotiaat lapset ovat fiksumpia kuin akateemisesti koulutetut päättäjät ja asiantuntijat!  ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Augustus on 09.03.2023, 16:36:53
Quote from: Eino P. Keravalta on 09.03.2023, 16:14:55
Hyvissä käsissä tämä maa on kun 10-vuotiaat lapset ovat fiksumpia kuin akateemisesti koulutetut päättäjät ja asiantuntijat!  ;D
Niinpä.

Vanha sanalaskukin menee jotenkin kai näin: humalaisten ja lasten suusta kuulee totuuden.

Sitten se vanha satu keisarin uusista vaatteista, siinäkin joku tenava uskalsi epäillä, että keisarilla ei ole vaatteita ollenkaan, vaikka kaikki aikuiset uskottelivat itselleen alastoman keisarin kulkevan hienoissa vaatteissa.

Tästä keissistä saisi osaavissa käsissä aivan mahtavaa kettuilua Andersenin saduista alkaen!

edit: pieni kirjoitusvirhe



Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lahti-Saloranta on 09.03.2023, 17:09:52
Hyvä juttu tämä kassikausti juuri enne vaaleja. Mahtava kevennys vaalipuheen lomaan. Jokainen täysipäinen kyllä huomaa että nyt on kyllä menty älyttömyyden puolelle ja rankasti.
Mietin että mikä mahtaa olla se seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistö ketä loukkaa tieto että sukupuolia on vain kaksi kun niitä on vain kaksi ja on aina ollut. Ketähän se loukkaa jos sanoo että käsiä ihmisellä on vain kaksi.
Persukansanedustajat voisivat vaalitilaisuuksiensa aluksi pyytää anteeksi Salon Mustamäen koulun oppilaalta viranomaisten kohdistamaa syrjintään. Hieno ele olisi jos vielä hommaisivat tytön suunnitteleman kassin. Voisihan tuosta kassista tehdä vaikka vaalimainoksen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tabula Rasa on 09.03.2023, 17:20:37
Keijokin heräsi: [tweet]1633842617984389121[/tweet]
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Random Walker on 09.03.2023, 18:54:56
Quote from: Pentecost on 09.03.2023, 15:57:24
QuoteKoulu pyysi tasa-arvovaltuutettua ottamaan kantaa kyseisen oppilastyön kieltämiselle

Minua kiinnostaisi ihan käytännössä, että miten kielletään vapaassa maassa jokin oppilastyö? Tuleeko jo etukäteen ohjeet, miten palvoa multikultia oikeaoppisesti ja oikein sanankääntein? Saako satiiria tai sarkasmia ollenkaan viljellä?

Mä vanhempana saisin sellaisen raivarin, että varmaan kirjoittaisin ko. koulun seinään metrisin kirjaimin sukupuolia olevan kaksi aina niin kauan kuin joutuisin linnaan siitä. Saataisiin tähänkin fasistiseen valtioon muutama mielipidevanki aikaiseksi.

Miettikää nyt kuinka sairasta on tälläinen sensuuri 7-13 -vuotiaiden lasten kohdalla. Oppivat varmaan rakastamaan Isoa Veljeä näillä aivopesumetodeilla. Joopa joo.

Tuli mieleen sanonta: "Jos ainoa työkalusi on vasara, kaikki ongelmasi näyttävät nauloilta". Kun kysytään tasa-arvovaltuutetulta, niin saadaan vastaus tasa-arvosta. Sananvapaus ja muut perusoikeudet jäivät käsittelemättä. Jotenkin tyypillistä, että sananvapaus jää tällaisissa asioissa toissijaiseksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Eino P. Keravalta on 09.03.2023, 19:01:22
Jos tasa-arvovaltuutettu olisi osannut hommansa eikä vain puffannut jotain epätasa-arvoista ääri-ideologiaa, hän olisi sanonut jotakin siihen tapaan, että kaikilla ihmisillä on tasa-arvoinen oikeus ilmaista mielipiteitään ja käsityksiään eikä kellään ole oikeutta sensuroida niitä.
Title: Vs: 2023-03-08 "Sukupuolia on vain kaksi”, lapsi kirjoitti – Tasa-arvovaltuutettu pu
Post by: Emo on 09.03.2023, 19:04:16
Quote from: Pentecost on 09.03.2023, 15:57:24
QuoteKoulu pyysi tasa-arvovaltuutettua ottamaan kantaa kyseisen oppilastyön kieltämiselle

Minua kiinnostaisi ihan käytännössä, että miten kielletään vapaassa maassa jokin oppilastyö? Tuleeko jo etukäteen ohjeet, miten palvoa multikultia oikeaoppisesti ja oikein sanankääntein? Saako satiiria tai sarkasmia ollenkaan viljellä?

Mä vanhempana saisin sellaisen raivarin, että varmaan kirjoittaisin ko. koulun seinään metrisin kirjaimin sukupuolia olevan kaksi aina niin kauan kuin joutuisin linnaan siitä. Saataisiin tähänkin fasistiseen valtioon muutama mielipidevanki aikaiseksi.

Miettikää nyt kuinka sairasta on tälläinen sensuuri 7-13 -vuotiaiden lasten kohdalla. Oppivat varmaan rakastamaan Isoa Veljeä näillä aivopesumetodeilla. Joopa joo.

Toivottavasti jotkut ihmiset eivät nyt innostu hankkimaan vedenkestäviä tusseja (niiden myynti pian kielletään) ja ala kirjoittelemaan julkisiin liikennevälineisiin, vessojen seiniin jne että " Sukupuolia on vain kaksi (2)".
Tuo on pahemmin sanottu, kuin että sanoisi " neekeri".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 09.03.2023, 19:06:52
Tämähän on selkeää lainvastaista lapsen kiusaamista ja erittäin vakavaa, kun se tapahtuu opettajan taholta ja vieläpä yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutettu ns.virallistaa tämän törkeän kiusaamisen >:(

Tällainen julkinen yhden lapsen täydellinen mitätöinti ja halveksunta viralliselta taholta on anteeksiantamattoman väärin ja tekijät pitää asettaa tästä vastuuseen.

Toivottavsti lapsen vanhemmat tekevät tästä rikosilmoituksen poliisille.
Jopa siviilikannetta kannattaa harkita, jos polpo ei tohdi asiaa viedä eteenpäin ja syyttäjä päätyy demlailemaan.

Nyt niin perussuomalaiset kuin muutkin totuuden puolesta puhuvat ottavaisivat asiakseen tämän lapsen oikeuden turvaamiseen.

On aivan selvää, että kun lapsi joutuu näin täydellisen ja valtakunnallisen mitätöinnin kohteeksi viranomaisen taholta, että se vahingoittaa lasta.

Mielenkiinnolla odotan kuka julkisuudessa tohtii puolustaa tätä lasta?
Luulen, että hiljaista pitää juuri siellä, missä asiaan voimakkaamin pitäisi kantaa ottaa 8)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lahti-Saloranta on 09.03.2023, 19:16:46
Se opettaja taitaa olla joku kiilusilmäinen kiihkoilija ja minusta ansaitsisi saada nimensä julki. Oli maalitusta tai ei mutta ei tuollainen opettaja ole tehtäviensä tasalla ja täysin soveltumaton toimimaan opettajana. Ruveta nyt kyykyttämään pientä koululaista aivan turhasta asiasta. Kyse on oikeastaan opettajan suorittamasta koulukiusaamisesta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Muhmutti on 09.03.2023, 19:22:22
Eilen lähetin SETA:lle seuraavan sähköpostin:

QuoteHei.

Elokuvissa Uuno Turhapuro menettää muistinsa vuodelta 1982 sekä Uuno Turhapuron muisti palailee pätkittäin vuodelta 1983, Uuno kokee olevansa nainen muistinmenetyksen seurauksena. Jälkimmäisessä elokuvassa hän jopa kokee olevansa raskaana. Onko järjestönne mielestä Uunon kokemus omasta sukupuolestaan ja raskaudestaan oikea?

Luulempa tuon olevan liian hapokasta ja kiusallista, niin ei pysty vastaamaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 09.03.2023, 19:26:19
Quote from: Lahti-Saloranta on 09.03.2023, 19:16:46
Ruveta nyt kyykyttämään pientä koululaista aivan turhasta asiasta. Kyse on oikeastaan opettajan suorittamasta koulukiusaamisesta.

Juuri näin ja vielä yhdenvertaisuus valtuutettu.
jos lapsi olisi ollut mamu, niin asiaa ei olisi otettu edes käsittelyyn, eli ihonvärillä on ollut voimakkaasti merkitystä, siis oletan vahvasti, että lapsi oli valkoinen, koska mamun kohdalla tämä ei olisi suomessa mahdollista ja sen tietää kaikki. 8)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 09.03.2023, 19:39:13
Ennen vanhaan natsit oli helppo tunnistaa. Useinmiten heillä oli Saksan armeijan univormu ja he kaasuttivat juutalaisia tai heittivät näitä uuniin.

Nykyään on vaikeampaa. Kuka tahansa voi olla natsi. Esim huolestumut vanhempi joka ei pidä siitä että hänen lapselleen opetetaan että hän on syntynyt väärään kehoon tai että lapsen pitäisi tuntea syyllisyyttä ihonväristään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 10.03.2023, 16:57:07
Quote from: SatuSetä on 08.03.2023, 10:36:59

Ei ole tunnuksia, mutta ohessa päätös kokonaisuudessaan.


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Tasa-arvovaltuutettu toteaa mm. kertomuksessaan eduskunnalle 2022 ja 2018 sekä selvityksessään sukupuolivähemmistöjen asemasta 2012, että sukupuoli on moninainen ilmiö, joka ei ole pelkistettävissä vain kahteen, toisistaan selvästi erotettavaan sukupuoleen. Sukupuoli-identiteetti on henkilön kokemus omasta sukupuolestaan. Tasa-arvolain esitöissä todetaan, henkilö voi kokea olevansa esimerkiksi sukupuoleton tai osittain nainen ja osittain mies. Sukupuolen ilmaisu puolestaan on sukupuolen tuomista esiin pukeutumisella, käytöksellä tai muulla vastaavalla tavalla. Myös Opetushallituksen vuonna 2015 perusopetukseen suunnatussa Tasa-arvotyö on taitolaji -oppaassa todetaan, että kokemus omasta sukupuolesta ei aina mahdu kaksinapaiseen sukupuolijärjestelmään.

Tasa-arvovaltuutettu toteaa (ilman tutkimus- tai referenssimateriaalia, saati mitään perusteluja), että sukupuoli on moninainen ilmiö. Sitten hän alkaa puhua yhtäkkiä sukupuoli-identiteetistä.

1) Miten tasa-arvovaltuutettu voi vain todeta, että sukupuolia (engl sex) on enemmän kuin kaksi
2) Miten tämä voi määritellä yksipuolisesti, että lapsi tarkoitti sukupuoli-identiteettiä  (engl gender)?
3) Miten näin epäpätevä ihminen voi olla virassaan?

Kirjoittiko lapsi kassiin "sukupuoli-identiteettejä on vain kaksi?"
Ei kirjoittanut. Lapsi kirjoitti "sukupuolia on vain kaksi".

Lapsi kirjoittaa englanninnettuna: "there are only two sexes" ja tasa-arvovaltuutettu alkaa puhua Sex is a complicated non binary issue, ja jatkaa gender is a self-identity related blah blah...

Käännetään tämä toiseen maailmaan:
Lapsi sanoo: on vain kahdenlaista kuplavolkkaria: Beetle ja New Beetle,
Tasa-arvovaltuutettu sanoo, että ei kuplavolkkareita voi identifioida kahteen perusversioon. Volkswagenilla on myös sellaisia malleja kuten Golf ja Passat.

Tai jos lapsi sanoisi, että "Suomen raha on Markka" ja opettaja/valtuutettu alkaisi kertoa, kuinka Markka ei ole vain suomen raha, koska Euroa käyttää yli 20 maata.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 10.03.2023, 17:10:05
Quote from: SatuSetä on 09.03.2023, 00:05:18
"Tutkija" Saresmalta on taas kysytty hankalia kysymyksiä ja apuun ovat rientäneet myös muut samanhenkiset "tutkijat" ja muut kollaboraattorit. Eihän se nyt vaan käy laatuun, että naistenpäivänä YK:hon asti puhumaan lähetetty "tutkija" osaisi määritellä edes sanan "nainen".

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/lukiolainen-kysyi-sukupuolentutkijalta-mika-on-nainen-valtion-vihapuheselvitysta-tehnyt-tutkija-aloitti-valittoman-fasistileimaamisen/

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Lukiolainen nuorisopoliitikko Mats Uotila kysyi Twitterissä sukupuolentutkimuksen dosentilta Tuija Saresmalta, pystyisikö hän tarjoamaan määritelmää sanalle "nainen". Saresma kierteli kysymystä, alkoi ensin puhua mm. patriarkaatista, sanoi, että hänellä on tärkeämpääkin tekemistä ja kehotti sitten lukiolaista käymään kursseja sukupuolentutkimuksesta. Kun Uotila ihmetteli, ettei tutkija vastannut kysymykseen, Saresma syytti Uotilaa provosoinnista sekä vihjasi hänen edustavan "superkonservatiivista" puhetta. Vihapuhetta tutkiva aktivisti Sami Eerola puolestaan tulkitsi Uotilan kysymyksen fasistien ja äärioikeiston propagandaksi. Rosa Meriläinen taas syytti Uotilaa "tutkijan kiusaamisesta". Edistyksellisimpien mukaan ei siis ole enää sopivaa määritellä sanaa "nainen".

Naistenpäivän alla suomalaisessa julkisessa keskustelussa nähtiin järjetön näytös. Sukupuolentutkimukseen erikoistunut dosentti kieltäytyi vastaamasta kysymykseen "mikä on nainen?". Lopulta kysyjää – lukiossa opiskelevaa Mats Uotilaa – syytettiin äärioikeistolaisuudesta ja kiusaamisesta. Uotila on kokoomuslainen nuorisopoliitikko.

...

Mats Uotila kommentoi sukupuolentutkimukseen erikoistuneen tutkijan päivitystä ja kysyi: "Kun olet menossa naisten asemaa käsittelevään tapahtumaan edustajaksi niin onnistuisitko sinä määrittelemään sanan "nainen"?


Miksi kalenterissa on naistenpäivä, jos tutkijatkaan eivät kykene määrittelemään sanaa "nainen".

Tutkija: Vietätkö naistenpäivää? Otatko vastaan ruusun, jos sellaisen sinulle joku tarjoaa toivottaen hyvää naistenpäivää?

Tuli mieleen, että Anna Kontula oli laittanut MTV vaalikoneeseen sukupuolekseen "Muu". Voi kun joku olisi tarjonnut naistenpäivänä Kontulalle jossain torilla ruusun toivottaen hyvää naistenpäivää ja videoinut ottaako hän sen vastaan. Jos olisi ottanut, olisi voinut kysyä, että millä oikeudella?

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 10.03.2023, 17:31:12
QuoteKansanedustaja Pekka Aittakumpu (kesk.) kysyy torstaina jättämässään kirjallisessa kysymyksessä tasa-arvovaltuutetun toiminnasta ja koululaisten sananvapauden toteutumisesta.

Quote– Tasa-arvovaltuutettu näyttää jättävän lausunnossaan huomiotta sen, mikä on kirjattu myös tasa-arvolakiin: sukupuoli ja sukupuoli-identiteetti ovat eri asioita. Sukupuolia on biologian ja Suomen lainsäädännön mukaan kaksi, mutta sukupuoli-identiteettejä eli ihmisen omia kokemuksia sukupuolestaan voi olla lukemattomia, Aittakumpu kirjoittaa kysymyksessään.

https://www.suomenmaa.fi/uutiset/aittakummulta-kirjallinen-kysymys-tasa-arvovaltuutetun-toiminnasta/

Viranomaisen toiminnan tulee aina perustua lakiin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lahti-Saloranta on 10.03.2023, 17:47:41
Quote from: Bona on 10.03.2023, 17:31:12
QuoteKansanedustaja Pekka Aittakumpu (kesk.) kysyy torstaina jättämässään kirjallisessa kysymyksessä tasa-arvovaltuutetun toiminnasta ja koululaisten sananvapauden toteutumisesta.

Quote– Tasa-arvovaltuutettu näyttää jättävän lausunnossaan huomiotta sen, mikä on kirjattu myös tasa-arvolakiin: sukupuoli ja sukupuoli-identiteetti ovat eri asioita. Sukupuolia on biologian ja Suomen lainsäädännön mukaan kaksi, mutta sukupuoli-identiteettejä eli ihmisen omia kokemuksia sukupuolestaan voi olla lukemattomia, Aittakumpu kirjoittaa kysymyksessään.

https://www.suomenmaa.fi/uutiset/aittakummulta-kirjallinen-kysymys-tasa-arvovaltuutetun-toiminnasta/

Viranomaisen toiminnan tulee aina perustua lakiin.
Luulisi että sitä opettajaa närästää ja tasa-arvovaltuutettua vielä enemmän. Eniten taitaa kyrsiä tuohon kysymykseen vastaavaa ministeriä. Oppilas kun puhui sukupuilista eikä sukupuoli-identiteeteistä eikä lapsen tarvitse niistä tietääkkään. Juttu kun sattuu olemaan vielä kaikkien huulilla ja nyt itse ministeri joutuu ottamaan siihen kantaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 10.03.2023, 18:25:19
Nyt mustamaalataan jo perheen isää "hankalaksi tapaukseksi"...

QuoteSALON Seudun Sanomat on julkaissut tapauksesta lisätietoja, joiden pohjalta selviää, ettei kyse ole ainoastaan kangas­kassi­suunnitelmasta.

Lehden saaman viestiaineiston perusteella alakoululaisen isä oli käyttäytynyt painostavasti koetulla tavalla koulun opettajia kohtaan.

Isä on lehden mukaan uhannut rehtoria rikos­ilmoituksella, jos hänen lastaan kielletään tekemästä kangaskassia. Hän on myös ainakin kerran tullut seuraamaan rehtorin pitämää oppituntia.

Isä oli myös tarjonnut SSS:n mukaan Sukupuolia on vain kaksi -tekstin vaihtoehdoksi tekstiä "Mies ei saa maata miehen kanssa niin kuin naisen kanssa. Se on iljettävää."

Saatekirjeessään tasa-arvo­valtuutetulle koulu on todennut elävänsä kovan paineen alla.

https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000009445940.html

On se raskasta moisen paineen alla eläminen. Oli joskus sellainenkin aika, että huonommatkin vitsit ohitettiin vähin äänin. Nykyisin idiotismi tuntuu olevan vallalla ja lapsen(!) tekemä joku vitun kangaskassi saa viranomaiset ja opettajat sekaisin!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 10.03.2023, 18:45:23
Aina vain räikeämmäksi menee ja tässä Salon Seudun Sanomat loukkaa yhden perheen
yksityisyyttä törkeällä tavalla.

Käsittämätöntä, että toimittajat ovat noin sokaistuneita.

Julkisen Sanan Neuvosto tosin pyyhkisi vain persettä tällä, niin saastunut on sekin taho.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lahti-Saloranta on 10.03.2023, 19:04:56
Quote from: Pentecost on 10.03.2023, 18:25:19
Nyt mustamaalataan jo perheen isää "hankalaksi tapaukseksi"...

QuoteSALON Seudun Sanomat on julkaissut tapauksesta lisätietoja, joiden pohjalta selviää, ettei kyse ole ainoastaan kangas­kassi­suunnitelmasta.

Lehden saaman viestiaineiston perusteella alakoululaisen isä oli käyttäytynyt painostavasti koetulla tavalla koulun opettajia kohtaan.

Isä on lehden mukaan uhannut rehtoria rikos­ilmoituksella, jos hänen lastaan kielletään tekemästä kangaskassia. Hän on myös ainakin kerran tullut seuraamaan rehtorin pitämää oppituntia.




Saatekirjeessään tasa-arvo­valtuutetulle koulu on todennut elävänsä kovan paineen alla.

https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000009445940.html

On se raskasta moisen paineen alla eläminen. Oli joskus sellainenkin aika, että huonommatkin vitsit ohitettiin vähin äänin. Nykyisin idiotismi tuntuu olevan vallalla ja lapsen(!) tekemä joku vitun kangaskassi saa viranomaiset ja opettajat sekaisin!
Minusta tuossa on todella aihetta tehdä rikosilmoitus koulusta. Minusta koulun ja vanhempien lasta koskeva viestittely on luottamuksellista. Nyt sitten tuo viestittely on vuodettu lehdille. Varjele jos ne viestit on lähetetty vilmaa käyttäen. Minusta niitä viestejä ei sovi ulkopuolisille jakaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 10.03.2023, 19:07:47
Eipä tuo isukkikaan tunnu ihan ihanneapelta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.03.2023, 19:09:20
Tähän väliin toisenlaista wokea: Southparkin sukupuolta vaihtanut miesopettaja Mr Ms Garrsion hankkimassa aborttia (1:25). Tuo alempi tweetti, en saanyt ylempää poistettua.

[tweet]1633556883041574912[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 10.03.2023, 19:11:00
QuoteTasa-arvovaltuutettu ampui itseään jalkaan sukupuolilausunnoillaan, koska konteksti on kunkku

Tämän viikon podcastissa Tuomas Peltomäki, Emil Elo ja Anni Keski-Heikkilä keskustelevat valtiovarainministeriön laskelmista lähteneistä keskusteluista jotka päättyivät kokoomuksen ja keskustan ilmoituksiin hallituskumppaneista, sekä isyyskannoista joita suomalaiset miehet esittelivät HS:n jutuissa, sekä tasa-arvovaltuutetun toimiston lausunnosta, joka sai aikaan raivoa ympäri maata.

Ihmetystä keskustelussa herättää varsinkin tasa-arvovaltuutetun lausunnosta puuttuvat kontekstoivat tiedot, jotka selittivät niin sanottua "sukupuolia on vain kaksi" -tapausta.

Kyse on lausunnosta, jossa valtuutettu näytti ottavan kannan, jonka mukaan että oppilas ei saa koulussa ilmaista lausetta "sukupuolia on vain kaksi", vaan oppilas tulee tämän sanomalla loukanneeksi vähemmistöjä.

Pelkästään tasa-arvovaltuutetun itse tarjoamien tietojen perusteella uutisoituna kanta vaikutti tosiaan käsittämättömältä. Sukupuoli tarkoittaa suomen kielessä ensisijaisesti biologista sukupuolta eikä sukupuolen kokemusta tai siihen pohjaavaa identiteettiä. On varmasti hyvin laajalti jaettu näkemys, että biologisia sukupuolia tosiaan on kaksi, juuri kuten alakoululainen kassiinsa kirjoitti. Syntyi siten mielikuva, että tasa-arvovaltuutetun mukaan koululainen ei saa lausua tunnilla ääneen suomalaisten ihan yleisesti hyväksymiä, maltillisia mielipiteitä.

Totuus tapauksessa oli ainakin Salon Seudun Sanomien ansiokkaasti kaivamien tietojen mukaan hyvin toisenlainen, ja tasa-arvovaltuutetun lausunto oli siten huomattavasti ensivaikutelmaansa järkevämpi. Tapaukseen liittyi lauseen lisäksi sateenkarisymbolin ruksaaminen ja koululaisen vanhemman tarkoitushakuinen ja aggressiivinen toiminta koulun suuntaan.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000009446710.html) 10.3.2023

"Totuus tapauksessa" ei muutu taustoituksesta miksikään.

Tasa-arvovaltuutettu tosiaan antoi lausunnossaan ymmärtää, että koululla olisi peräti lakiin perustuva velvollisuus kieltää koulutyö sillä perusteella, että tasa-arvovaltuutettu tulkitsi tekstin seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjä syrjiväksi ja loukkaavaksi ja myös kieltämättä jättämisen lakia rikkovaksi syrjinnäksi. Tasa-arvovaltuutettu viittaa lausunnossaan oppilastyön tekstiin, josta lausunto erityisesti pyydettiin. Samoin koulun rehtori vetosi koulun toiminnan puolustuksessa lakiin.

Helsingin Sanomien toimittajien tyrkyttämä "konteksti" taas tuntui olevan se, että perhe on ollut koulun kannalta kristilliskonservatiivisine mielipiteineen yleisemminkin ongelma, joten heidät saa ja pitääkin vaientaa. Emil Elo kysyi, olisivatko "oikeistokonservatiiviset voimat" puolustaneet myös muslimiperheen sananvapautta. Eivät tietenkään, tiesivät kaikki kolme toimittajaa, joten arvostelijat ovat tekopyhiä.

Tekopyhyyttä ei tietenkään ole tähän verraten vaikka sen puolustaminen, että toisessa koulussa ei vain sallittu Jussi Halla-ahon ja Laura Huhtasaaren liittämistä ihmisten kuolemiin vaan nostettiin teokset esille koulun julkisiin tiloihin kaikkien nähtäviksi (http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,96173.msg3246707.html#msg3246707). Silloin valitettiin sensuurista, lasten kiusaamisesta ja vaikka mistä.

Surkuhupaisaksi meno meni viimeistään siinä vaiheessa, kun toimittajat pohtivat, kuinka moiseen kassiin (eli sanan- ja mielipiteenvapauteen) suhtauduttaisiin Helsingin Sanomien toimituksessa. Kuulemma vähintään pomon pitäisi puuttua asiaan, jos valppaat kollegat eivät saisi huomautuksillaan kassinkantajaa ruotuun.

Peltomäki yritti ihan turhaan kääntää tapahtuneen muka tasa-arvovaltuutetun harkintavirheeksi, kun valtuutettu selvästikin halusi näyttää valtaansa ja ideologista paremmuuttaan aivan kuten valtakunnansyyttäjän toimisto on tehnyt viime vuosina. Ei ollut harkintavirhe vaan julistus saman ideologian jakaville, että 2+2=5 tai mitä ikinä me päätämme sen olevan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 10.03.2023, 19:52:06
^ Sateenkaaren saa ruksata, kukapa sen voi kieltää ja mihin lakiin perustuen? Kassiin vaan ruksit mustalla paksulla kangastussilla.
Samaten oppilastyötä koulu ei voi jättää hyväksymättä sillä perusteella, että oppilaan vanhempi on aggressiivinen koulun suuntaan. Ei vanhempi siihen arvosteluprosessiin kuulu mitenkään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pjentti on 10.03.2023, 21:33:35
Junes suorittanut faktantarkistusta lähes seitsemän tunnin skriimillä:
https://twitter.com/monokulttuuri/status/1633858966735441920 (https://twitter.com/monokulttuuri/status/1633858966735441920)

https://dlive.tv/p/vihapuhefm+Izqbv4aVR (https://dlive.tv/p/vihapuhefm+Izqbv4aVR)

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tabula Rasa on 10.03.2023, 21:36:22
https://www.maaseuduntulevaisuus.fi/uutiset/579c8f54-3876-523b-aa47-9fa6fc2e9c71

Tämän keissin voi asettaa hyvin vertailukelpoisena tämänkertaista vastaan. Ja jokainen jolla on silmät tai kaksi aivosolua näkee tekopyhyyden. Tiedän että toimittajille saati wokettajile nämä ovat liian kovia vaatimuksia. Eikä kummankaan suunnalta tulla sanallakaan näitä näkemään yhteismitallisina.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.03.2023, 19:17:00
Taustaa wokesekoilulle.

Quote from: https://sarastuslehti.com/2020/06/09/mietteita-unabomberin-manifestista/Mietteitä Unabomberin manifestista
...
Manifestin pääpaino on teknologian alasajossa, mutta Kaczynski ruotii siinä muitakin aiheita. Suuren osan tekstistään hän omistaa vasemmistolaisen mielenlaadun analysointiin. Myös tässä Kaczynski oli aikaansa edellä: viimeistään viimeisen kymmenen vuoden aikana vasemmistolaiset teemat, kuten suvaitsevaisuus, feminismi, antirasismi ja seksuaalivähemmistöjen oikeudet ovat vallanneet virallisen yhteiskunnallisen keskustelun tavalla, jota 25 vuotta sitten kukaan tuskin osasi kuvitellakaan. Erityisen pahaksi tilanne on käynyt yliopistoilla, jotka ovat ainakin ihmistieteiden osalta muuttuneet tutkimuslaitoksista puhtaiksi propagandatorviksi.

Kaczynski kutsuu vasemmistolaisesti ajattelevia ihmisiä läpisosiaalistuneiksi. Sosiaalistuminen yhteiskunnan arvoihin on mennyt heissä liian pitkälle: he eivät pysty hyväksymään vähäisintäkään poikkeamaa oikeaksi kokemastaan arvomaailmasta sen enempää toisissa kuin itsessäänkään, eivät tekojen eivätkä edes tunteiden tasolla (ei ole sattumaa, että nykyajan toistetuimpiin tyhjäpäisiin hokemiin kuuluvat "älä vihaa" ja "emme suostu pelkäämään").

Tällä tavalla on tietysti mahdotonta elää, ja niinpä vasemmistolaiset tuntevatkin kroonista itseinhoa, koska he eivät pysty sopeutumaan yliminänsä kohtuuttomiin vaatimuksiin.

Vasemmistolle leimallinen hysteerisyys johtuukin epäilemättä ylisosiaalistumisen aiheuttamasta oman minän tukahduttamisesta: ei tavallinen valkoinen hetero oikeasti kannata sukupuoliradikalismia tai mamuinvaasiota, hänet on vain saatu uskottelemaan itselleen niin.

Kun hän kuulee "rasistisia" tai "suvaitsemattomia" kommentteja, pieni ääni hänen sisällään sanoo, että juuri noinhan minä itsekin ajattelen. Mutta koska tällainen ajatus on ylisosiaalistuneelle ihmiselle kauhistus, hän hukuttaa tuskansa vimmaiseen raivoon kaikkia niitä kohtaan, jotka saavat tuon pienen äänen hänen sisällään heräämään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 13.03.2023, 19:39:33
En tiedä, onko tämä jo esitelty Hommaforumilla, mutta Peter Boghassianilla on mielenkiintoinen sarja klippejä, jossa hän kertoo selkeällä englannilla, mitä paljon käytetyt Woke-termit pitävät sisällään.  Osin hyvinkin terävää analyysiä.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYNjnJFU-62s3oVlhI9p4L1WGZNV4dLIG

Klipit seuraavat toisiaan automaattisesti, eli jos valitsee ylimmän klipin, voi katsoa kaikki putkeen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 13.03.2023, 21:00:52
Quote from: Dangr on 13.03.2023, 20:42:25
– Sillä ei ole mitään väliä. Seksikumppanien määrä ei kerro ihmisestä yhtään mitään. Jos luku on suuri, se kertoo ihmisen seksuaalihistoriasta sen, että on ollut aktiivinen seksinharrastaja.

Kuka pistää tuon CV:nsä? Harrastukset - olen aktiivinen seksinharrastaja.  ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 13.03.2023, 21:34:08
Quote from: Dangr on 13.03.2023, 20:42:25
Varmaan liippa aihetta?

Minttu, 29, kertoo seksikumppaniensa määrän – ja asiantuntija selittää, miksi asialla ei ole mitään väliä

"Mutta nyt emme elä enää historiassa. Onko seksikumppanien määrällä oikeasti mitään väliä?

– Sillä ei ole mitään väliä. Seksikumppanien määrä ei kerro ihmisestä yhtään mitään. Jos luku on suuri, se kertoo ihmisen seksuaalihistoriasta sen, että on ollut aktiivinen seksinharrastaja. Ihmisen arvosta se ei kuitenkaan kerro mitään, eikä seksikumppanien määrän pitäisi olla millään tavalla arvottava asia, Haiko vastaa jämäkästi."

https://www.is.fi/menaiset/ilmiot/art-2000009441491.html

Ja Haiko on jämäkästi väärässä.

>Seksikumppanien määrä ei kerro ihmisestä yhtään mitään.
>Jos luku on suuri, se kertoo ihmisen seksuaalihistoriasta sen, että on ollut aktiivinen seksinharrastaja.

Heh. Ilmeisesti seksuaalihistoria ei ole osa ihmistä vaan jonkinlainen metafyysinen tilasto ihmisen ulkopuolella. Aika monella seksuaalisesti huomattavan aktiivisella ihmisillä on kuitenkin käytöksessään riippuvuuden piirteitä vaikkei sitä aluksi itse tunnistaisikaan. Tällöin seksistä tulee pikkuhiljaa pakkomielle ja yksilön elämä alkaa pyöriä sen ympärillä. Kyky normaaleihin ihmissuhteisiin alkaa kadota. Jos puhutaan yksilön kohdalla sadoista erillisistä seksikumppaneista, niin siinä on jo joutunut käyttämään huomattavan määrän aikaa ja vaivaa seksikumppanin etsintään, ottamaan riskejä, ehkä törmäämään ikäviin kokemuksiin fyysisesti ja/tai henkisesti jne.

Yritän tässä siis hieman kyseenalaistaa Haikon väitettä, ettei kumppanien määrä kerro ihmisestä mitään. Siis jos pystyy nusaisemaan tuhannen ihmisen kanssa, minkälainen ihminen pitää olla, ettei se vaikuttaisi sinuun ihmisenä ollenkaan? Siis että seksi toisen ihmisen kanssa olisikin yhtä merkityksetöntä kuin vapaapäivänä golfkerholla swingin harjoittelu? Ei kuulosta uskottavalta.

Törmäsin muuten joskus ameriikkalaiseen tilastoon, jonka mukaan naisten avioeron todennäköisyys kasvoi huomattavasti sitä mukaa kun elinikäisten seksikumppanien lukumäärä kasvoi. En muista koskiko tutkimus miehiä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 14.03.2023, 05:03:47
Kuten suuressaa maailmassa sanotaan:"Go woke go broke" – Piilaakson yhtiöitä rahoittanut suuri monikansallinen woke-pankki rommasi nurin
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/kuten-suuressaa-maailmassa-sanotaango-woke-go-broke-piilaakson-yhtioita-rahoittanut-suuri-monikansallinen-woke-pankki-rommasi-nurin/
QuoteUsein kuultu "Go woke go broke" tarkoittaa vapaasti käännettynä "Aloita wokettaminen, koe konkurssi". Sanonta muuttui todeksi Yhdysvaltojen 16. suurimman pankin Silicon Valley Bank kaaduttua viime viikolla. Piilaakson innovaatiosektorin rahoittaja tunnettiin myös woke-henkisyydestään. Pankin riskienhallinnan johtajasta tuli kansainvälisesti näkyvä woke-sankari samoihin aikoihin kun hänen firmansa kulki kohti tuhoa, ja asiakkaat menettivät säästönsä. Amerikkalaisen Home Depot -firman perustaja Bernie Marcus arvelee woken olevan osasyy pankin epäonnistumiseen. Hänen mielestään woke ja yhteiskuntavastuu veivät huomiota yrityksen tavanomaiselta johtamiselta. Finanssisektori elää tällä hetkellä jännityksessä siitä, onko SVB:n tapaus vasta alkusoittoa suuremmalle kriisille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.03.2023, 22:17:13
Miksi kukaan palkkaisi wokettajaa?

[tweet]1635909851980369920[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.03.2023, 10:27:20
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.03.2023, 22:17:13
Miksi kukaan palkkaisi wokettajaa?

Quote from: Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays
I'll say it out loud too: I would never hire a person with pronouns in their bio. It signals an anti-success mindset.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 17.03.2023, 00:35:34
Maailmankuulu vasemmistoälykkö arvostelee wokea, rinnastaa sen uskonnolliseen fanatismiin
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/maailmankuulu-vasemmistoalykko-arvostelee-wokea-rinnastaa-sen-uskonnolliseen-fanatismiin/
QuoteMaailmankuulu vasemmistolainen filosofi ja kulttuurikriitikko Slavoj Žižek pelkää, että woke on tullut jäädäkseen. Hän osoittaa, miten poliittinen korrektius on liittoutunut korporaatiomaailman ja jopa terveydenhuollon voitontavoittelun kanssa. Hauraassa iässä oleville, sukupuolestaan epävarmoille lapsille ja nuorille tyrkytetään hormonihoitoja, ja lääkäreillä on paine olla käsittelemättä kriittisesti tämän sivuvaikutuksia. Žižek näkee wokessa myös maallisen uskonnollisen fanatismin piirteitä. Feministit eivät halua kuulla islamin ja naisten oikeuksien ristiriidoista, ja avoin keskustelu kiusallisista aiheista leimataan helposti rasismiksi. Wokesta on tullut aktivisteille keino hankkia moraalisen auktoriteetin rooli. Žižek luonnehtii wokea "etuoikeutettujen aktiviteetiksi".

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.03.2023, 09:13:01
Esimerkki wokehulluudesta.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1636017220122824706Lavern Spicer 🇺🇸 @lavern_spicer

San Francisco is about to pay out reparations to Black folks at $5,000,000 a piece.

They just accepted the draft proposal
.

QuoteEric Matheny 🎙 | @EricMMatheny | Replying to @lavern_spicer

In a state that never had slavery, paid by taxpayers who never owned slaves

QuoteGo Vote Right | @GoVoteRight | Replying to @lavern_spicer

This is a scam to setup Newsom for a run at the Whitehouse in 2024.

He will blame California's budget problems on the reparations and promise to do it on a national level to get the black vote nationally.

All at the expense of the California tax payers and property values.

QuoteRussell Brown | @RussBrownTX | @lavern_spicer

Shall we all move to San Francisco and self-identify as one who is eligible for the gravy trough? We could use pronouns like me-too, pay-me, or i-prefer-cash.

QuoteMichael Chaney | @MichaelDChaney | Replying to @lavern_spicer

You don't actually believe that they're going to go through with this, right?  Carrots only work if they're kept just out of reach.

QuoteHope Eternal | @HduntonBrooks | Replying to  @lavern_spicer

Every other race should SUE based on DISCRIMINATION

QuoteMEME THE LEFT | @memetheleft | Replying to  @lavern_spicer

I wish this would actually happen and sit back and watch the carnage and fallout that will ensue, but this won't happen.

QuoteCoffee Snob☕️ | @Coffee_Snob_ | Replying to @lavern_spicer

Won't this bankrupt the state?  Seriously, where are the funds coming from 🤷🏻‍♀️??  Will other states have to kick in for their short fall?!

QuoteSteve Hansen |@Ransom1949 | Replying to  @lavern_spicer

So where's the money coming from? How will it be distributed and to whom? Another little insight into the woke to broke process...

Quotetjmurphy50 | @tjmurphy501 | Replying to @lavern_spicer

San Franciscans 10 months from now: Why are my taxes increasing 1000 x? That's it! I'm moving to a red state but I'll keep voting the same way.

QuoteRobert S | @Walkingman08 | Replying to @lavern_spicer

Funny democrats are going to crash the dollar and make it all paper

QuoteJack Lombardi II | @JackLombardi |Replying to @lavern_spicer

Democrats are masters of creating divide.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jmk on 17.03.2023, 09:52:12
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.03.2023, 09:13:01
Quote from: https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1636017220122824706Lavern Spicer 🇺🇸 @lavern_spicer
San Francisco is about to pay out reparations to Black folks at $5,000,000 a piece.

They just accepted the draft proposal
.

Tota... en sinänsä epäile ämörikän-wokejen pystyvän ylittämään minkä tahansa järjettömyyden rajan, mutta tämä on jo niin överiä, että onko tälle jotain kunnollista lähdettä josta näkisi tarkemmin mistä on kyse?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 17.03.2023, 10:39:12
^ Sama. Joku lähde twiitin sijaan. On niin överi summa, että kaataisi muutenkin ongelmaisen julkisen talouden ja aiheuttaisi raivoa muissa ryhmissä. Olisi kuin taivaanlahja republikaaneille seuraaviin vaaleihin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.03.2023, 10:52:01
Quote from: jmk on 17.03.2023, 09:52:12
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.03.2023, 09:13:01
Quote from: https://twitter.com/lavern_spicer/status/1636017220122824706Lavern Spicer 🇺🇸 @lavern_spicer
San Francisco is about to pay out reparations to Black folks at $5,000,000 a piece.

They just accepted the draft proposal
.

Tota... en sinänsä epäile ämörikän-wokejen pystyvän ylittämään minkä tahansa järjettömyyden rajan, mutta tämä on jo niin överiä, että onko tälle jotain kunnollista lähdettä josta näkisi tarkemmin mistä on kyse?

Demokraatit puhuvat paskaa vaalivoiton toivossa. Senaatti ei peltoneekeriorjuuskorvauksia ole hyväksynyt, eikä tällä komitealla ole mitään toimeenpanovaltaa. Mutta sen huumenarkkaririkollisen tapettua itsensä yliannostukseen järjettömyys nytkähti taas eteenpäin.

Jos orjanomistajien jälkeläisten pitäisi maksaa korvauksia, niin suuri osa noista afrikanamerikkalaisista on orjanomistajaisäntien - joita oli 4% väestöstä - siittämiä, joten maksakoon siis itse jälkeläisinä korvauksia itselleen!

Toivottavasti CNN kelpaa lähteeksi.

Quote from: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/15/us/san-francisco-black-reparations-california/index.htmlSan Francisco leaders show early support for $5 million reparation payments for eligible Black residents

By Taylor Romine and Chris Boyette, CNN | March 15, 2023

...

A one-time payment of $5 million to each eligible Black resident is among recommendations unanimously accepted by San Francisco's Board of Supervisors as part of a draft plan by a panel proposing reparations.

The move Tuesday was an intermediate step, with a final report that includes board feedback due in June, the San Francisco African American Reparations Advisory Committee said, and the board set to meet again on the issue in September.

...

California's first-in-the-nation reparations task force met for the first time since its inaugural meeting nearly a year ago. The live meeting also comes mere weeks after the group voted to limit restitution to descendants of enslaved or free Black people in the U.S. before the 20th century.
...

While federal reparations efforts have stalled in Congress, efforts by cities from Massachusetts to Illinois to California to atone for harms rooted in slavery – and address the racial wealth gaphave gained momentum since the 2020 police killing of George Floyd rekindled the Black Lives Matter movement.

San Francisco's reparations advisory committee was created in 2020 to craft a plan to address institutional, city-sanctioned harm inflicted upon African American communities. But city leaders in recent months have questioned whether the city can fund the reparation proposals.

"I think the big challenge has been, how do we quantify, how do we get to a number. And then the next challenge will be, where does that money actually come from? Who is responsible for that," San Francisco Republican Party Chairman John Dennis told CNN affiliate KGO in January.

...

The reparations advisory committee has no authority to implement its recommendations.

It laid out in January a list of qualifying criteria for the payments it proposes, including
- age,
- residency, and
- an ancestor's enslavement, displacement or exposure to lending discrimination during certain periods.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.03.2023, 14:17:16
Tämä tänne Great Reset -ketjun lisäksi.

Quote from: https://oikeamedia.com/o1-196500
Blogi: Mikko Paunio, to 16.03.2023 19:33

Olin Life Siten päätoimittajan John Henry Westenin ja Frank Wrightin podcast-haastattelussa

Olin eilen illalla Life Siten päätoimittajan kanadalaisen John Henry Westenin videopodcast'ssä tunnin verran haastateltavana. Sanomani oli, että Davosin (=YK:n Agenda 2030) politiikat perustuvat vaaralliseen uusvanhaan esoteriaan/okkultismiin pohjaavaan luontopanteismiin, joka on innoittanut EU:n lainsäätäjät väsäämään ilmasto- ja luontokato- sekä Wokelakeja.

Luulisi jo vähän tyhmemmänkin alkavan epäillä EU:n ilmastopolitiikkaa, kun Europarlamentti siunasti ja vielä ankaroitti neuvoston kantaan nähden energiatehokkuusdirektiiviä, joka jo yksittäisenä suomalaista lainsäätäjää velvoittavana säädöksenä vie suomalaisten kotitaloudet, kunnat sekä valtion konkurssiin.

EU:n ilmastopaketti eli Fit for 55 paketti pitää vielä sisällään paljon lisää taloutta tuhoavaa lainsäädäntöä, jota alkaa tulla ulos kaksoispäätösmenettelyllä. Ne yhdessä jo aiemmin säädettyjen Maailman Talousfoorumin (WEF) Suureen Resettiin perustuvan EU-lainsäädännön (esim. taksonomia-asetus, "vastuullisuus" eli ESG-direktiivit ja -asetus, kiertotalouspaketti, ennallistamisasetus ym.) kanssa vievät meidät kohti kivikautta.

EU:n "vastuullisuuslainsäädännön" eli Wokelainsäädännön vuoksi TV-mainoksissa näemme yhä enemmän tummempi-ihoisia ja LBTQ+ väkeä.

Life Site on Eko-/Wokepaavia ja koko Woke-agendaa kritisoiva konservatiivinen Pro-Life alusta, joka pitää ilmastonmuutosta huijauksena.  Sivustolla on miljoonayleisö.

Syy, miksi olin haastateltavana, olivat nuo katolisella Postil alustalla puolitoista kuukautta sitten julkaistut kaksi pitkää esseetäni (WEF is a Dangerous Religious Cult ja Did Deep Ecologist Pentti Linkola Meet Heinrich Himmler?). John Henry Westen oli täysin tietoinen, että olen agnostikko (en ole ateisti), koska olen sen ensin mainitussa Postil-artikkelissani kertonut.

Sanoman pitäisi upota nyt suotuisaan maahan, sillä juuri julkaistun Rasmussenin mielipidetiedustelun mukaan todennäköisistä äänestäjistä USA:ssa jo 60 % on sitä mieltä ilmastonmuutospolitiikat perustuvat uskonnolliseen ei-luonnontieteelliseen maailmankuvaan. Vain 25 % oli sitä mieltä, että ilmastopolitiikat perustuvat luonnontieteeseen.

Did the Deep Ecologist Pentti Linkola Meet Heinrich Himmler? – The Postil Magazine

The World Economic Forum is a Dangerous Religious Cult – The Postil Magazine

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/is_climate_change_a_false_religion

Mikko Paunio
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 18.03.2023, 20:04:46
Quote
How not to have woke kids.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yNHVsU0Ag0w
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 18.03.2023, 20:35:09
Quote
Professor at my college calls me a terrorist in national news

https://gab.com/MakingItPay/posts/110043843877406213
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 19.03.2023, 00:07:18
Quote
Student leaves woke school board SPEECHLESS, exposes them all and drops the mic

https://gab.com/SirBatman/posts/109907696049943603

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.03.2023, 14:07:24
Woke - väärän kuninkaan päivät, pysyvästi. Suomen Perustan julkaisema kirja.

https://www.suomenperusta.fi/julkaisu/woke-identiteettipolitiikkaa-antirasismista-transkysymyksiin/

https://www.suomenperusta.fi/content/uploads/2023/03/Woke-pdf.pdf

QuoteWoke – identiteettipolitiikkaa antirasismista transkysymyksiin

Woke on pienen piirin ääriajattelua, jolle annetaan suhteetonta näkyvyyttä ja vaikutusvaltaa. Se vaikuttaa etenkin yliopistoilla, vaikka se nimenomaan asettaa ideologian faktojen edelle. Se on sukua historian aiemmille vallankumouksille, mutta se on vallanpitäjien vallankumous tavallista kansaa vastaan.

...

Esipuhe

Matias Turkkila: Kun woke käy lasten leikkien kimppuun, pysy rauhallisena

Henry Laasanen: Mikä woke-kulttuurissa on vikana?

Marko Hamilo: Punavihreää identiteettipolitiikka vai perinteistä yhdenvertaisuutta?

Erkki Seppänen: Ollako vai eikö olla? – Olematon woke ja olemassa olevat wokekoulutukset

Joakim Vigelius: Woke ei pesi yliopistoilla sattumalta

Marko Hamilo: Tutkimusnäyttö ja politiikka transkysymyksessä

Simo Grönroos: Vasemmistoautoritarismia, identiteettipolitiikkaa ja silmänkääntötemppuja

Manolis Huuki: Nuorisovillitykset eilen ja tänään

Matti Viren: Valtaapitävien vallankumous141

Quote from: Matias TurkkilaWokeentuneet Yle ja HS suoltavat massiivisella volyymilla vasemmistonarratiiveja:
- Kehitysmaamaahanmuutto on rikkaus (ei ole),
- globalisaatio lisää demokratiaa (ei lisää),
- isänmaallisuus on rasismia (ei ole),
- valkoinen mies on paha (ei ole),
- EU tuo vaurautta (ei tuo),
- intersektionalismi ja radikaalifeminismi lisäävät tasa-arvoa (eivät lisää)
- jne.

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Ylen ohjelmatuotannon tavaramerkiksi on tullut jokapäiväinen, pidäkkeetön ilmastoahdistuksen kylväminen. Planeetta on Ylen mukaan tulessa.

Ei ole ihme, että juuri erittäin keskittyneen median Suomessa ilmastoahdistuksella on tutkitusti kaikkein voimakkain yhteys mielenterveyteen – sillä huonolla tavalla. Ihmiset rentoutuvat yleensä heikosti kuullessaan, että koti on liekeissä.

Pidäkkeetöntä ilmastohysteriaa lietsova Yle on vahva osasyyllinen nuorten mielenterveysongelmien lisääntymiseen. Tämä on tietysti tarkoituskin. Yhtiö lietsoo tahallaan ilmastopaniikkia, joka aiheuttaa tahallaan aiheutettuja mielenterveysongelmia.

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Vihreät eivät ole kiinnostuneita perheiden oikeudesta päättää itse omista asioistaan. Heitä ohjaa neuroottinen tarve säädellä ihmisten perhesuhteita, liikkumista, kulutusta ja asumista. Vihreä ei luota tavalliseen kansalaiseen. Ei hänen moraaliinsa, valintoihinsa eikä logiikkaansa. Tilalle puolue tarjoaa omaa uskomusjärjestelmäänsä, mutta tämä eväskori on niin ristiriitainen, että se kelpaa yhä harvemmalle.

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Niin kummallista kuin se onkin,"vihreä" ajattelutapa ei itse asiassa enää hyödytä vihreitä. Potin korjaa kokoomus, joka on saanut vihreästä ajattelutavasta erinomaisen vivun oman politiikkansa eteenpäin puskemiseen. Ankaralla pakottavalla lainsäädännöllä häädetään kilpailijat markkinoilta, pakotetaan kansalaiset kovempiin hintoihin ja uusien turhien "vihreiden" tuotteiden hankintaan.
Tätä taustaa vasten ei olekaan yllätys, että kokoomuksesta puskee nykyään rajumpaa vihertykitystä eetteriin kuin vihreiltä itseltään.

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Nyt miehet on leimattu toksisiksi, syntyvyys on romahtanut. Tytöt ovat poikia ja iseillä on menkat ja he kuulemma synnyttävät. Vauvat ovat hiilisaastetta eikä sellaisia pidä hankkia, mutta Suomeen pitää silti haalia muualta kymmeniä tuhansia ihmisiä vuodessa. Teineille tuputetaan kouluissa maailmantuskaa. Poliitikot ajavat huumeiden laillistamista ja narkkaamishuoneita, Yleisradio tuputtaa ammatinvalinnaksi prostituutiota. Meno on monin paikoin varsin sekopäistä, eikä se osoita rauhoittumisen merkkejä. Ihmiskunnan pelastus nojaa kuulemma räyhäkkääseen feminismiin ja ekokiihkoiluun.

Mistä nämä kajahtaneet ajatukset oikein tulevat? Ja miksi on niin pelottavaa sanoa, että "hei tässä ei välttämättä ole järkeä".

Vastaus on itse asiassa aika yksinkertainen: sekopäisyys kuljetetaan koteihin joko telkkarin, netin tai kotiin kannetun lehden voimin. Sekopäisyyttä tuotetaan teollisessa mittakaavassa, ja sen noudattamista valvotaan. Harvemmin kysytään: miksi näin tapahtuu?

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Maapallon suurimpia pankkeja, finanssi- ja sijoitusyhtiöitä on aiemmin pidetty lähinnä verenimijöinä. Kuin taikaiskusta 2015 tienoilla megayhtiöt alkoivat luoda nahkaansa uudestaan ja yksi kerrallaan ne ilmoittautuivat hyvyyden joukkoihin. Yhtiöihin rekrytoitiin roppakaupalla eettisyyden, globaalin vastuun, diversiteetin jne puolestapuhujia.

Samaan aikaan maapallon suurimmat mediayhtiöt alkoivat toistella narratiivia vääjäämättä edessä olevasta globaalista tuhosta. Ainoaksi pelastukseksi leivottiin energiajärjestelmien muutos sekä valtavien rahasummien kanavointi niille yhtiöille, jotka koko rumban käynnistivät.

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Sinun aivoosi rakennetaan tarkoituksella tietty tapa ajatella. Tämän takia sinulle jankataan joka päivä tarinaa ilmastonmuutoksesta. Maahanmuutosta. Natseista. Sinun kuuluu pelätä, koska pelon avulla voidaan ohjailla ihmisiä.

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Mikä sitten on tämän jatkuvan mediatuputuksen ja pelon kylvämisen tarkoitus? Se on yksinkertainen: siirtää sinun rahasi jonkun muun taskuihin. Propagandan klassinen tehtävä on saada ihmiset hyväksymään itselleen epäedullinen ratkaisu. Ja politiikassa on aina kyse rahasta.

Politisoituneessa taloudessa rikkaat rikastuvat sillä, millä keskiluokka köyhdytetään.
Tee asumisesta, liikkumisesta ja elämisestä sikakallista -> köyhdytät keskiluokan mutta teet muutamista sikarikkaita.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 21.03.2023, 15:17:11
Suomen Uutisten kanavalla oli tänään lähetys.
Joakim Vigelius, mitä WOKE on?
https://youtu.be/F0FYpVl8fBs
QuotePERUSASIAA | Suomen Perusta -ajatuspaja julkaisee WOKE-kirjan, jossa kirjoittajat pohtivat, mitä tämä eriskummallinen liike tavoittelee.

Yksi kirjan kirjoittajista, perussuomalaisten nuorisojärjestön puheenjohtaja Joakim Vigelius on tiistaiaamuna ajatuspajan toiminnanjohtajan Simo Grönroosin haastateltavana aiheesta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 28.03.2023, 00:17:42
Woke elää ja voi hyvin syntisissä yliopistokaupungeissa – taustalla eliitin ja kansan ikiaikainen kuilu sekä kaipuu paratiisiin
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/woke-elaa-ja-voi-hyvin-syntisissa-yliopistokaupungeissa-taustalla-eliitin-ja-kansan-ikiaikainen-kuilu-seka-kaipuu-paratiisiin/
QuoteWoke tarkoittaa herännäisyyttä sellaisten ongelmien olemassaoloon, jotka yksilön itsensä tai ryhmän mielestä ovat äärimmäisen tärkeitä. Ovatko ongelmat sitten aitoja tai ei ja mitä muut niistä ovat mieltä, se on yhdentekevää. Woke on siis politiikkaa ja woke on uskonto.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 28.03.2023, 12:52:08
Quote from: totuuspuheasiamies on 28.03.2023, 11:56:22

Hesari ilmoittaa, että tekijä on nainen. Naissovinistinen Hesari leimaa tällä kertaa naisia, koska ei voi paljastaa, että tappaja on transu.

Tässä tv-yhtiö ABC:n katsaus tekijään:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale/story?id=98166039
QuoteA police spokesperson told ABC News that Hale was assigned female at birth, and pointed to a social media account linked to Hale that included use of the pronouns he/him.

Hän ilmeisesti käytti vielä tyttöetunimeään.  Ei ole tietoa mistään lääketieteellisistä toimenpiteistä biologisen sukupuoli-identiteetin muuttamiseksi. On hieman vaikea sanoa pelkän somekirjoittelun perusteella, miten voimakkaasti hän koki olevansa mies, joten ehkä on enneaikaista määrittää hänet yksioikoisesti transseksuaaliksi.  Sukupuolidysforiaa (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukupuolidysforia)?

Minusta on ihan järkevää käyttää uutsioinnissa biologista sukupuolta, kun muusta ei ole tietoa. 



Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.03.2023, 13:56:32
Quote from: totuuspuheasiamies on 28.03.2023, 11:56:22
Transseksuaali ampui hengiltä kristillisen alakoulun lapsia Tennesseessä.

https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1640526121992089600/photo/1
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 28.03.2023, 18:16:05
Tätä voisi kutsua avoimeksi tiedottamiseksi.
QuoteYT: Metropolitan Nashville Police Department

MNPD Officers Rex Engelbert, a 4-year veteran, and Michael Collazo, a 9-year veteran, were part of a team of officers who responded to the Covenant Church/School campus Monday morning and immediately entered the building. Both of those officers fired on the shooter, who was killed.  This is their body camera footage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue2tZa4hT0c). (6:04)
Siinä on nyt sitten sitä paljon puhuttua poliisiväkivaltaa. Missä itku ja parku? :P Toki sitäkin on ollut. Väärin sukupuolittamisesta tai some shit.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 28.03.2023, 18:50:56
 :)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tabula Rasa on 28.03.2023, 22:00:37
Quote from: Dangr on 10.03.2023, 19:07:47
Eipä tuo isukkikaan tunnu ihan ihanneapelta.

Itse taas näen parhaaksi a-ryhmäksi. Puolustaa leijonan raivolla omaa jälkikasvuaan. Tämä maailma on nähnyt kylliksi niitä jotka antavat lapsensa aivopesun, indoktrinaation ja hyväksikäytön uhreiksi koska pelkäävät keikuttaa sosiaalista normistoa. Se tie on kuljettu loppuun ja sen tuloksena on nämä sukupuoleltaan hyväksikäyttäjät ja kouluampujat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.03.2023, 21:57:47
^Tuo "ihminen" on tietenkin aivan liian eksklusiivinen termi. Nisäkäs olisi inklusiivisempi, se sisältäisi myös mm. apinat.

"Nisäkäs riehui automaattiaseen kanssa."

Tai kuten Suomessa: "Automaattiase riehui."

Mammal Shooting, AK-47 machine gun in a group of, crazy soldiers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9umhOnnMG8
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 29.03.2023, 22:31:16
Kamala on Afrikassa ja on lässyttänyt siellä homoista.

African Politician GOES OFF On Kamala Harris For Lecturing Them On LGTBQ Rights During Africa Trip!
https://youtu.be/3LaH68aHVw8
QuoteVice President Kamala Harris was grilled about raising LGBTQ+ rights with leaders during her Africa trip as she stood beside Ghana's President Nana Akufo-Addo at a joint press conference.

Vice President Harris is currently on a trip to the African continent that will take her to Ghana, Zambia, and Tanzania. On Monday, the VP held a joint press conference with President Akufo-Addo at Jubilee House in Accra, Ghana.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 29.03.2023, 23:21:48
 :facepalm:

[tweet]1640972183135571968[/tweet]
SUNNUNTAI korostettuna. Se ei ole aprillipäivä vaan 2.4.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 29.03.2023, 23:24:26
USA voisi luopua tähtilipustaan ja ottaa homolipun uudeksi valtiolipukseen. Lgtb-hihhulointi kun on muuttunut valtionuskonnoksi jota ei saa arvostella.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 30.03.2023, 01:49:36
Woke liikkeen suomennettu versio olisi myös mainio termi kuvaamaan woketusta, eli herännäisyysliike. Suomennetussa herännäisyydessä tulee oikealla tavoin ilmi liikkeen uskonnollinen piirre. Tai myös wokeherännäisyys.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Charlie on 30.03.2023, 08:45:14
Reuters kehysti niin, että "entinen kristillisen koulun oppilas" tappoi kolme oppilasta ja kolme opiskelijaa. Aika murhanhimoista porukkaa nuo kristityt. :roll:

[tweet]1640680230632271872[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.03.2023, 09:48:44
Quote from: Sakari on 30.03.2023, 01:49:36
Woke liikkeen suomennettu versio olisi myös mainio termi kuvaamaan woketusta, eli herännäisyysliike. Suomennetussa herännäisyydessä tulee oikealla tavoin ilmi liikkeen uskonnollinen piirre. Tai myös wokeherännäisyys.

Hyvä! Entäs:

- Wokekörttiläisyys, wokekörttiläiset (wokekörmyt, wokekörmyily, wokekörmyttely)
- Wokehurmoksellisuus, wokehurmokselliset, wokehurmot, wokehurmoilu?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tunkki on 30.03.2023, 09:54:01
^Ja toki ampujalla oli "assault rifle" uutisten mukaan, kun totuus on PCC eli pistol caliber carbine = tässä tapauksessa 9mm Parabellumia ampuva KelTec Sub2000.  Tämä ase taittuu kahtia ja siten mahtuu reppuun.

https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/rifles/sub2000/ (https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/rifles/sub2000/)

edit: aseen nimi korjaten
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: potta on 30.03.2023, 10:35:39
Quote from: Tunkki on 30.03.2023, 09:54:01
^Ja toki ampujalla oli "assault rifle" uutisten mukaan, kun totuus on PCC eli pistol caliber carbine = tässä tapauksessa 9mm Parabellumia ampuva KelTec2000.  Tämä ase taittuu kahtia ja siten mahtuu reppuun.

https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/rifles/sub2000/ (https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/rifles/sub2000/)
oli hänellä (pronominit was/were) myös toinen pitkä ase, Lead Star Armsin perinteinen arska Grunt .300 Blackout.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: rapa-nuiv on 30.03.2023, 10:38:55
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.03.2023, 09:48:44
Quote from: Sakari on 30.03.2023, 01:49:36
Woke liikkeen suomennettu versio olisi myös mainio termi kuvaamaan woketusta, eli herännäisyysliike. Suomennetussa herännäisyydessä tulee oikealla tavoin ilmi liikkeen uskonnollinen piirre. Tai myös wokeherännäisyys.

Hyvä! Entäs:

- Wokekörttiläisyys, wokekörttiläiset (wokekörmyt, wokekörmyily, wokekörmyttely)
- Wokehurmoksellisuus, wokehurmokselliset, wokehurmot, wokehurmoilu?

Hihhulointi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.03.2023, 10:57:43
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.03.2023, 09:48:44
Quote from: Sakari on 30.03.2023, 01:49:36
Woke liikkeen suomennettu versio olisi myös mainio termi kuvaamaan woketusta, eli herännäisyysliike. Suomennetussa herännäisyydessä tulee oikealla tavoin ilmi liikkeen uskonnollinen piirre. Tai myös wokeherännäisyys.

Hyvä! Entäs:

- Wokekörttiläisyys, wokekörttiläiset (wokekörmyt, wokekörmyily, wokekörmyttely)
- Wokehurmoksellisuus, wokehurmokselliset, wokehurmot, wokehurmoilu?

Äänestys:
Woken suomennos: wokeherrännäisyys/körttiläisyys/hurmoksellisuus, mikä muu?
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,134113.0.html
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.04.2023, 13:18:52
Quote from: totuuspuheasiamies on 29.03.2023, 21:14:20
QuoteTransmies tappoi kuusi ihmistä kristillisessä koulussa – Yhdysvaltain media huolissaan ampujan "väärinsukupuolittamisesta"

Quote from: https://www.seiska.fi/Kotimaa/Teemu-Selanteen-molaytys-kuohuttaa-jalleen-Suosikkipelaajasi-osoittautuu-transfobiseksi?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=referral&fbclid=IwAR1ENVIzLcwOCRs5prOFwXhm_BOvKSumvNhQ8yyiRq63W6ZozzbNSyPtpm4... Eilen Valkoisen talon lehdistösihteeri Karine Jean-Pierre puhui lehdistötilaisuudessa, jossa hän nosti esille muun muassa Yhdysvaltojen lainsäädäntöön ja koulujen turvallisuuteen liittyviä asioita.

Lisäksi hänelle esitettiin kysymyksiä osavaltioiden transvastaisten lakien säätämisestä, jonka yhteydessä esiin nousi myös tänään (31.3.) vietettävä transihmisten näkyvyyden juhlapäivä (eng. Transgender Day of Visibility, TDoV).

Vastauksessaan Jean-Pierre otti vahvasti kantaa transihmisten oikeuksien puolustamiseen. Koko tilaisuuden sisältö on mahdollista lukea tekstimuodossa englanniksi Valkoisen talon sivuilta.

Teemu Selänne jakoi tuoreessa tviitissään videopätkän kyseisestä tilaisuudesta, ja kirjoitti oheen rajun avautumisen:

- Mitä...? Laskeeko KJP leikkiä? Nyt olet pahoillasi transyhteisön puolesta??? Wow... transnainen tappoi juuri kuusi viatonta ihmistä ja olet pahoillasi transihmisten puolesta.... Jeesus Kristus, hän kirjoitti.


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Teemu on aiemminkin herättänyt huomiota Twitter-kommentaattorina.

Kiekkolegenda on ottanut kantaa mitä erilaisimpiin asioihin. Hän on aiemmin lausunut näkemyksiään esimerkiksi kasvisruuasta, verotuksesta ja sähkön hinnasta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 04.04.2023, 12:25:58
Kova kuitti transgender-urheilulle.

Kanadassa on noussut kohu, kun transnainen on nostanut kansallisen penkkipunnerrusennätyksen 125 kiloon naisten yli 84-kiloisten sarjassa.

Entinen painonnostovalmentaja päätti sitten identifioitua naiseksi ja veti täysparrassa penkistä 167,5 kg, mikä on nyt epävirallinen naisten Kanadan ennätys...  :roll:

QuoteEntinen Kanadan painonnostopäävalmentaja Silverberg osallistui hiljattain Heroes Classic -kilpailuun Albertan Lethbridgessä naiseksi identifioituneena. Valmennustehtävien ohella painonnostokolumnistina toimiva lihaskimppu kilpaili yli 84-kiloisten sarjassa.

Täydessä parrassa näyttäytynyt Silverberg penkkipunnersi 167,5 kiloa. Hän löi aiemman Albertan naisten ennätyksen 42,5 kilolla. Edellinen ennätys, 125 kiloa, oli kilpailua paikan päällä seuranneen transurheilija Anne Andresin hallussa.
https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/parrakas-lihaskimppu-ilmestyi-naisten-kilpailuun-murskasi-aiemman-ennatyksen/8668984 (https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/parrakas-lihaskimppu-ilmestyi-naisten-kilpailuun-murskasi-aiemman-ennatyksen/8668984)

En jäljittänyt tarpeeksi päivämääriä, onko alkuperäinen twiitti aprillipila, mutta jos maikkari uutisoi, niin tottahan tuo on.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 04.04.2023, 13:13:30
^Transfoobikot vain ulisevat, kun naisurheilu kehittyy ja tekee uusia ennätyksiä... ;)

Ihan hyvä provokaatio. Edellinen Kanadan "naisten ennätys" oli transuksi aikuisena nostajana jo alkaneen tekemä. Siis miehen fysiikalla tehty naisten sarjassa. Nyt munallinen miesnostaja kävi naisena kiskaisemassa uuden. Tämä woke on muuttanut kaiken ihan puhtaaksi dadaksi.

Ne naistensarjat kehitettiin ihan syystä. Keskimääräinen nainen on biologisista syistä huonompisuorituskykyinen urheilussa, kuin keskimääräinen mies. Ilman naisten sarjoja, ei olisi juuri naisurheilua, koska naisten menestyminen yhteisissä sarjoissa suuressa osassa lajeja olisi heikkoa. Nyt wokettajat ovat päättäneet sallia itsensä naiseksi tuntevien miesten osallistumisen naistensarjoihin, jota onkin noudatettu varsinkin anglosaksisissa maissa. Miesten fysiikalla varustetut "naiset" ovat kiskoneet ennätyksiä uusiksi ja kahmineet palkintoja. Yliopistourheilussa naisten opiskelustipendejä.

Ja hupi on, että pettyneet naisurheilijat, jotka valittavat tästä ilmeisestä epäkohdasta leimataan "transfobisiksi"...

Kyllä tässä on tulossa selkeästi "historian dialektisen heilurin" heilahdus toiseen suuntaan...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 04.04.2023, 13:30:33
Mutta eihän kukaan lähde muuttamaan sukupuoltaan tilapäisesti minkään tuollaisen vuoksi. Sellaisen sanominen on transfobiaa ja populismia.

Mutta uusi translaki sallii Suomessakin tuon pelleilyn. Ei tarvita sterilisaatiota, ei sukupuolenkorjaussuunnitelmaa. Riittää vain oma ilmoitus.

He tekivät sen ihan itse.

Nyt naisten täytyy nousta joukolla vastustamaan tätä touhua. Mutta eihän se ole naisten vika, vaan ikävien miesten, jotka yrittävät osoittaa naisille, miksi lait, joissa on norsun kokoisia porsaanreikiä, eivät ole hyviä ja onnistuneita lakeja.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 04.04.2023, 13:52:26
^Taannoin oli uutinen Hyvinkäältä. Siinä naiset olivat vähän empiväisen kuuloisia edistystä kohtaan, kun uimahallin lauteilla, naisten puolella oli istunut möreä-ääninen munallinen nainen, joka oli möreällä äänellään kertonut olevansa nainen.

Jos valitat olet transfobi, mutta lehtijutun mukaan se möreä-ääninen uusnainen oli ollut hieman ikävä kokemus. 

Mutta nykyään tässä ajassa on parasta tämä keksityn pahkasian ylittävä hulluus. Englanniksi - "You can`t make this shit up!"
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 05.04.2023, 20:25:56
Kanada jatkaa edistyksellisellä linjalla. Friikkien kutsuminen friikeiksi on tästä lähtien rikos.
[tweet]1643645659558412288[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 10.04.2023, 13:02:13
Kattava lista.

[tweet]1645282177796694018[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Augustus on 11.04.2023, 20:18:25
Törmäsin sitten tälläiseen IL uutiseen:

Uutuusohjelma: Aikuiset riisuuntuvat ilkosilleen lasten edessä  (https://www.iltalehti.fi/viihdeuutiset/a/6e3c4c07-0913-4e82-bfbd-a5199619c51c)

Alla juttu kokonaan:

Naked Education on uusi sarja, jossa aikuiset ihmiset riisuuntuvat ilkosilleen 14–16-vuotiaiden lasten edessä. Ohjelmaa mainostetaan kehopositiiviseksi. Siinä tunnetut henkilöt pyrkivät normalisoimaan erilaisia vartaloita ja rikkomaan stereotypioita. Jotkut ohjelman katsojat ovat kritisoineet sitä, että aikuiset ihmiset riisuuntuvat alasti lasten edessä.

– He ovat alasti lasten edessä. Miksi, oi miksi tämä on sallittua, henkilö nimeltä Lisa kritisoi Twitterissä tiistai-iltaisin Channel 4 -kanavalla lähetettävää ohjelmaa.

– Lapset ovat alle 16-vuotiaita. Heidän ei tarvitse nähdä vieraita ihmisiä kokonaan alasti saadakseen koulutusta vartaloista.

Ohjelma on herättänyt myös positiivista palautetta sen tavasta käsitellä tabua aihetta.

– Naked Education on opettavainen sarja. Taistelemme erilaisuuden puolesta, jotta voimme hyväksyä sen, miten olemme kaikki normaaleja ilman vaatteita, juontaja Anna Richardson sanoo, Daily Mailille.


Milloin meidän peruskoulussa mennään tälle linjalle, julkisuuden henkilö riisuutuu koululuokalle? Olihan kai jossain (Venäjällä?) joku matikan opettaja joka riisui vaatteitaan todistaessan teoreemaa tms. En muista kyllä missä ja miten.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: tavallinen jantteri on 14.04.2023, 06:05:04
^ Niin siis esimerkkinä positiivisesta palautteesta kerrotaan se kun ohjelman juontaja kehuu ohjelmaa? :o
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: alussaolisana on 14.04.2023, 08:14:46
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.03.2023, 10:57:43
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 30.03.2023, 09:48:44
Quote from: Sakari on 30.03.2023, 01:49:36
Woke liikkeen suomennettu versio olisi myös mainio termi kuvaamaan woketusta, eli herännäisyysliike. Suomennetussa herännäisyydessä tulee oikealla tavoin ilmi liikkeen uskonnollinen piirre. Tai myös wokeherännäisyys.

Hyvä! Entäs:

- Wokekörttiläisyys, wokekörttiläiset (wokekörmyt, wokekörmyily, wokekörmyttely)
- Wokehurmoksellisuus, wokehurmokselliset, wokehurmot, wokehurmoilu?

Äänestys:
Woken suomennos: wokeherrännäisyys/körttiläisyys/hurmoksellisuus, mikä muu?
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,134113.0.html

Älkää nyt rakkaat henkilöt sotkeko vanhoja suomalaisia herätysliikkeitä tähän. Wokenatsit on parhaiten ilmiötä kuvaava nimitys.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 15.04.2023, 20:52:53
En tiedä kuuluuko wokeen vai BLM-ketjuun.

Yle Teemalla nyt:

Musta Villi länsi:
Ameirkan Villin lännen suurimpia myyttejä on, että cowboyt ja valloittajat olivat valkoisia miehiä, kun todeliisuudessa suuri osa heistä oli arfoamerikkalaisia. Myös Hollywoodin elokuateollisuus vahvisti tätä myyttiä...


Suurimpia myyttejä, suuri osa valloittajista afroamerikkalaisia.

Muistakaa White power ja rakenteellinen rasismi on tosiasia. Mutta suuri osa villin lännen sankareista ja valloittajista oli mustia.

Mitä tästäkin pitäisi ajatella.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 15.04.2023, 23:11:14
Quote
Reporter: "Do You Think The Country Will See The First United States Gay President, Or First Woman President?"

Rivers: "We Already Have It With Obama, So Lets Just Calm Down. We All Know Michelle Is Transgender."

Reporter: "What!"

https://gab.com/FRANKQUOTES/posts/109499367757374975
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 16.04.2023, 00:55:22
Quote
The Slippery Slope..

https://gab.com/SomeBitchIKnow/posts/109531684532723322

What does slippery slope mean?
noun. Britannica Dictionary definition of SLIPPERY SLOPE. [singular] : a process or series of events that is hard to stop or control once it has begun and that usually leads to worse or more difficult things. His behavior will lead him down a slippery slope to ruin.

Mitä tarkoittaa liukas rinne?
substantiivi. Britannica Dictionary määritelmä SLIPPERY SLOPE. [yksikössä] : prosessi tai tapahtumasarja, jota on vaikea pysäyttää tai hallita, kun se on kerran alkanut, ja joka yleensä johtaa huonompiin tai vaikeampiin asioihin. Hänen käytöksensä johtaa hänet liukasta rinnettä alas kohti tuhoa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 16.04.2023, 20:07:00
Amerikkalainen kaljavalmistaja Anheuser-Busch, joka mm. valmistaa Budweiser oluita päätti markkinoida litkuaan "transhenkilö" Dylan Mulvaneyn kanssa. Mulvaney on oikeasti mies, joka meikkaa itsensä naiseksi ja kertoo olevansa nainen.

Woke mainoskampanjasta on kuitenkin tullut megafiasko: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bar-owner-says-customers-have-stopped-ordering-bud-light-after-trangender-ad-campaign

QuoteBar Owners Say Customers Have Stopped Ordering Bud Light After Transgender Ad Campaign

The backlash against Bud Light has intensified following a controversial ad campaign featuring transgender 'influencer' Dylan Mulvaney drinking transgender-themed beer in a bathtub.

According to John Ruch, country music singer and owner of the Redneck Riviera bar in Nashville, TN, Bud Light used to be their most popular beer.

"The customers decide. Customers are king," he told Fox News host Tucker Carlson on Monday. "I own a bar in downtown Nashville called Redneck Riviera. Our number-one selling beer up until a few days ago was what? Bud Light. We got cases and cases and cases of it sitting back there. But in the past several days, you're hard-pressed to find anyone ordering one. So as a business owner, I go, hey if you aren't ordering it, we got to put something else in here. At the end of the day, that's capitalism. That's how it works."
...
At Braintree Brewhouse in Massachusetts, Bud Light normally outsells rivals Miller Lite and Coors Light by 25:1, according to owner Alex Kesaris, who said that this week, 80% of Bud Light drinkers ordered something else, while the 20% who did order it "weren't on social media and hadn't heard yet," regarding the transgender ad campaign.

Uuden mainoskampanjan myötä Anheuser-Busch kurssi romahti peräti 5% menettäen n 6 mrd USD arvostaan ja yritys on alkanut tekemään damage-controllia ( https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anheuser-busch-transitions-damage-control-mode-and-people-arent-buying-it )

Myös Nike on päätynyt myrskyn silmään käyttäen samaista Mulvaneyta woke-mainostaessaan naisten urheiluvaatteita:

https://nypost.com/2023/04/06/dylan-mulvaney-nike-partnership-faces-online-uproar/

QuoteNike faces online uproar over paid partnership with trans TikToker Dylan Mulvaney
Nike on Wednesday became the latest big-name company to face pushback from social media users for partnering with transgender activist Dylan Mulvaney.

Mulvaney unveiled her paid partnership with Nike on Wednesday in several posts to Instagram, where she wore some of the company's activewear, including pants and a sports bra.

"Alert the media — I'm entering my workout era," Mulvaney, a transgender woman, wrote in a caption for her 2 million followers to see.

Naisia parodioiva clownimainoksen voi katsoa tästä:

https://twitter.com/JamesBradleyCA/status/1643697665954177036?s=20

Nikeä vastaan on jo pystytetty boikottikampanjoita ja muijat ovat alkaneet polttaa rintalivejään protestina:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/shopping/woman-sets-nike-sports-bra-ablaze-after-brand-features-trans-woman-as-female-product-model/ar-AA19PwF9

Vaikuttaa siltä, että porukka alkaa olemaan kurkkua myöten täynnä transseksualismia ja suurkorporaatioiden yritystä syöttää wokeidiotismia asiakkailleen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 18.04.2023, 16:07:43
Quote from: Totti on 16.04.2023, 20:07:00
Vaikuttaa siltä, että porukka alkaa olemaan kurkkua myöten täynnä transseksualismia ja suurkorporaatioiden yritystä syöttää wokeidiotismia asiakkailleen.

Jonkin agandan tuputtaminen asiakkaille ei välttämättä ole yritysten oma valinta: BlackRockin CEO Larry Fink kertoo lyhyessä klipissä kuinka he pakottavat yritykset toimimaan tietyn agandan mukaan. Heillä on mahdollisuus toimia näin, koska he omistavat paljon osakkeita kyseessä olevista yrityksistä. BlackRockin johtoporras koostuu tietysti suurelta osin Larryn heimoveljistä.
QuoteControl is the goal of @BlackRock CEO Larry Fink, because that control enables him to "force behaviors."

His goal is to force you to comply with his woke agenda, whether you agree with it or not.
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QuoteLarry Fink

Laurence Douglas Fink (born November 2, 1952) is an American billionaire businessman. He is the current chairman and CEO of BlackRock, an American multinational investment management corporation. BlackRock is the largest money-management firm in the world with more than US$10 trillion in assets under management, giving the firm enormous power over the global financial system. In April 2022, Fink's net worth was estimated at US$1 billion according to Forbes Magazine. He sits on the boards of the Council on Foreign Relations and World Economic Forum.

Fink was born on November 2, 1952. He grew up one of three children in a Jewish family in Van Nuys, California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Fink


QuoteInside the CEI system pushing brands to endorse celebs like Dylan Mulvaney

Executives at companies like Nike, Anheuser-Busch and Kate Spade, whose brand endorsements have turned controversial trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney into today's woke "It girl," aren't just virtue signaling.

They're handing out lucrative deals to what were once considered fringe celebrities because they have to — or risk failing an all-important social credit score that could make or break their businesses.

At stake is their Corporate Equality Index — or CEI — score, which is overseen by the Human Rights Campaign, the largest LGBTQ+ political lobbying group in the world.
...

As a result, some American CEOs are more concerned about pleasing BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street Bank — who are among the top shareholders of most American publicly-traded corporations (including Nike, Anheuser-Busch and Kate Spade) — than they are about irritating conservatives, numerous sources told The Post.
...

But neither Kid Rock nor even Mulvaney are who America's top execs are trying to impress, experts say.

"The big fund managers like BlackRock all embrace this ESG orthodoxy in how they apply pressure to top corporate management teams and boards and they determine, in many cases, executive compensation and bonuses and who gets re-elected or re-appointed to boards," entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, who is running for president as a Republican and authored "Woke Inc.: Inside America's Social Justice Scam," told The Post. "They can make it very difficult for you if you don't abide by their agendas."

In 2018, BlackRock CEO Larry Fink, who oversees assets worth $8.6 trillion and has been called the "face of ESG," wrote a now-infamous letter to CEOs titled "A Sense of Purpose" that pushed a "new model of governance" in line with ESG values.

"Society is demanding that companies, both public and private, serve a social purpose," Fink wrote. "To prosper over time, every company must not only deliver financial performance, but also show how it makes a positive contribution to society."

Fink also let it be known "that if a company doesn't engage with the community and have a sense of purpose "it will ultimately lose the license to operate from key stakeholders."
...

https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/inside-the-woke-scoring-system-guiding-american-companies/

Edellä mainitun lisäksi yrityksissä voi olla myös ideologisia toimijoita, jotka voivat edistää omaa agendaansa, kuten Budweiserin tapauksessa.
QuoteMeet Alissa Heinerscheid, Bud Light's VP of Marketing. She explains her strategy of using "inclusive" marketing to promote the brand to young people.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 20.04.2023, 20:04:48
Quote from: ikuturso on 15.04.2023, 20:52:53
En tiedä kuuluuko wokeen vai BLM-ketjuun.

Yle Teemalla nyt:

Musta Villi länsi:
Ameirkan Villin lännen suurimpia myyttejä on, että cowboyt ja valloittajat olivat valkoisia miehiä, kun todellisuudessa suuri osa heistä oli arfoamerikkalaisia. Myös Hollywoodin elokuvateollisuus vahvisti tätä myyttiä...

"Afroamerikkalaiset" valloittivat Villin lännen, entä sitten? Mikä ihmeen pakottava tarve on jatkuvasti ylistää Afroamerikkalaisia ja muita "värejä", paitsi valkoihoisia?

Kirjoittajalle saattaa olla yllätys, että lähes kaikki Hollywood elokuvat ovat fiktiota, eivätkä todellakaan perustu tositapahtumiin ja elokuvien kulttuuri ja ihmiskuvaukset ovat mielikuvituksen tuotosta, jostain kumman syystä tuo itsestäänselvyys, että elokuvat todellakin ovat fiktiota, tuntuu unohtuvan monilta Mielensäpahoittajilta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 21.04.2023, 19:51:37
Voin arvata miten vastuullinen media uutisoi tämän :roll:

Pervot peruivat kulkueen kun eivät saaneet irstailla täysin vapaasti. Ilkeä mies tuo DeSantis >:(
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 23.04.2023, 18:20:09
Rasismilla vuosia, siis vuodesta 1987 ratsastanut POC-parlamenttiedustaja Labourista Itä-Lontoosta, tuli omien koirien puremaksi. Hän lähetti lehdelle kirjeen , jossa ilmoitti pitävänsä - "juutalaisten ja vaikka irlantilaisten kokemaa rasismia, pienempänä, kuin mustien kokemaa rasismia." 

Oli Labourin parlamenttiryhmän johtaja. Ei ole enää...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Abbott

"Diane Julie Abbott (born 27 September 1953) is a British politician who has been Member of Parliament (MP) for Hackney North and Stoke Newington since 1987. She served in the Shadow Cabinet of Jeremy Corbyn as Shadow Home Secretary from 2016 to 2020. Abbott was the first black woman elected to Parliament, and is the longest-serving black MP in the House of Commons. She currently sits as an independent MP. "

"Comments on race

In 1996, Abbott was criticised after she claimed that at her local hospital "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" were unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before".[112] In response, Marc Wadsworth, founder of the Anti-Racist Alliance, whose mother is Finnish, pointed out that the then-current Miss Finland, Lola Odusoga, was Black, of Nigerian and Finnish descent. "She's a black Finn like me," he said. Abbott's position was supported by fellow Labour MP Bernie Grant: "Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature."[113][114]

In 2010, defending her decision to send her son to a private school, she asserted that "West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children", prompting criticism about this perceived slight on white mothers.[115]

On 4 January 2012, Abbott tweeted that: "White people love playing 'divide and rule'. We should not play their game", which again led to widespread criticism, including accusations of racism.[116] Abbott later apologised for "any offence caused", claiming that she had not intended to "make generalisations about white people"; she claimed in an interview with Andrew Neil that her tweet was referring to the history of the British Empire.[117][118][119] The Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, Conservative MP, said: "This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked."[118] Members of the public lodged complaints, but the Metropolitan Police stated that no investigation would be launched, and no charges would be brought against her, saying she "did not commit a criminal offence.""


Ja nyt... Woke syö lapsensa.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-65365978

"Diane Abbott suspended as Labour MP after racism letter

Diane Abbott has been suspended as a Labour MP pending an investigation into a letter she wrote about racism to the Observer, the party has said.

The politician said "many types of white people with points of difference" can experience prejudice, in a letter published on Sunday.

But they are not subject to racism "all their lives", she said.

She later tweeted to say she was withdrawing her remarks and apologised "for any anguish caused".

Labour said the comments were "deeply offensive and wrong".

Suspending the whip means Ms Abbott will not be allowed to represent Labour in the House of Commons, where she will now sit as an independent MP.

The BBC has approached Ms Abbott for comment.

In the letter, she wrote that Irish, Jewish and Traveller people "undoubtedly experience prejudice", which she said is "similar to racism".

She continued: "It is true that many types of white people with points of difference, such as redheads, can experience this prejudice.

"But they are not all their lives subject to racism.

"In pre-civil rights America, Irish people, Jewish people and Travellers were not required to sit at the back of the bus.

"In apartheid South Africa, these groups were allowed to vote.

"And at the height of slavery, there were no white-seeming people manacled on the slave ships."

She had been responding to a comment piece in the Guardian questioning the view that racism "only affects people of colour".

Ms Abbott's letter prompted a backlash, including from the Board of Deputies of British Jews, which described it as "disgraceful" and her apology "entirely unconvincing".

The group had urged Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer to remove the whip.

In her apology, the MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington said "errors" arose in an initial draft that was sent.

She continued: "But there is no excuse, and I wish to apologise for any anguish caused.

"Racism takes many forms, and it is completely undeniable that Jewish people have suffered its monstrous effects, as have Irish people, Travellers and many others."

Labour MP Dame Margaret Hodge, who is Jewish, called the letter "deeply offensive and deeply distressing".

She backed the suspension of the whip, tweeting: "No excuses. No delays. "




Niin on katoavaista POC-MP:nkin kunnia nykyisin.  :roll:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 23.04.2023, 19:11:01
Jarkko Tontti kirjoittaa osuvasti wokesekoilusta YLE:llä:

https://yle.fi/a/74-20027723 (https://yle.fi/a/74-20027723)
Quote...Kirjailijan mukaan erityisesti rasismin, syrjinnän ja muun yhteiskunnallisen epäoikeudenmukaisuuden torjuntaan keskittyvä poliittisesti valveutunut woke-ideologia pitää sisällään maagista ajattelua: kun joku ikävä asia poistetaan näkyvistä, se samalla poistetaan historiasta, ikään kuin sitä ei koskaan olisi ollutkaan olemassa. Näin ei kuitenkaan tapahdu, muistuttaa Tontti...
Quote...Niin, se vihapuhe. Tontin ulostuloja seuranneet tietävät, että hän suhtautuu intohimoisesti koko konseptiin, ja haastaa sen. Tontin mukaan vihapuhe on peitesana sille, että joku on eri mieltä punavihreän poliitikon, toimittajan, taiteilijan tai tutkijan kanssa.
Hänen mielestään elämme vihapuhehysterian aikaa, jossa sanojen väitetään muuttuvan teoiksi ja lietsovan väkivaltaa.
– Sosiaalisessa mediassa käydään kovaa keskustelua ja käytetään hyvinkin loukkaavia ilmaisuja, mutta vihapuheen vaikutuksia liioitellaan semminkin kun katsomme rikostilastoja. Suomalaiset ovat paljon vähemmän väkivaltaisia toisiaan kohtaan kuin vaikkapa 80-luvulla, sanoo Tontti.
Tontin mielestä ihmisten pitää antaa puhkua sosiaalisessa mediassa vihaisesti, törkeästikin.
– Mutta siihen pitää vastata rauhallisella puheella eikä tekemällä tutkintapyyntö poliisille...
Quote...Jos vanhoja kirjoja ajanmukaistetaan, myös uusien teoksia sopivuutta tarkkaillaan. Monet kustantamot ovat ottaneet käyttöön sensitiivisyyslukijat. Heidän tehtävänään on lukea tekstejä kuin piru raamattua ja osoittaa, mitä ongelmallisia kohtia kirjassa voi olla heidän edustamansa vähemmistön kannalta...
Quote...Toive asiantuntijasta tulee kuitenkin yleensä kirjailijalta, Tammen kanssa samaa konsernia olevan WSOY:n lasten ja nuortenkirjaosaston kustantaja Paula Halkola kertoo. Niitä tilataan harkinnanvaraisesti, ja "suhteellisen harvoin". WSOY:ssa asiantuntija-arviot tilataan yleensä asiantuntijaorganisaatioilta kuten Setalta.
Quote...Tontin mukaan kirjallisuuden moninaisuus on itse asiassa kaventunut, vaikka kulttuuripiirit liputtavat sen puolesta. Keskiluokkaisuus ja woke-ideologia ovat vallanneet kirjallisuuden.
– Vihreitä ja vasemmistoliittoa kannattavat pääkaupunkiseutulaiset ihmiset tekevät valtaosan suomalaisesta kirjallisuudesta, puhumattakaan siitä, että he myös hallitsevat kustannusmaailmaa.
Kustannusala on naisvaltainen ja tämä näkyy kustannuspäätöksissä, sanoo Tontti...

Saa nähdä, saako Tontti wokeväeltä ikävää palautetta, niin järkevää näkemystä kun esittää.

Ks. myös samaa artikkelia käsittelevä Proffan bloggaus:
https://professorinajatuksia.blogspot.com/2023/04/kulttuurivieras-tosiasioiden-aarella.html (https://professorinajatuksia.blogspot.com/2023/04/kulttuurivieras-tosiasioiden-aarella.html)
Quote...Käytännössä suomalainen yhdenvertaisuusvaltuutettu on ottanut esimerkkiä entisestä Itä-Saksasta, jossa puolet kansasta kyttäsi toista puolta sosialistisen valtion vastaisista puheista. Tämä voidaan päätellä siitä, että kyseinen viranomainen kehottaa kansalaisia ottamaan yhteyttä poliisiin, mikäli nämä näkevät esimerkiksi jollain verkkosivustolla vihapuhetta, jonka epäilevät olevan lainvastaista...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 28.04.2023, 12:30:04
Jarkko Tontti jatkaa woken vastaista taistelua:
https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/uustaistolainen-woke-sensuuri-tuli-suomalaiseen-kirjallisuuteen/#32576881 (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/uustaistolainen-woke-sensuuri-tuli-suomalaiseen-kirjallisuuteen/#32576881)

QuoteSuomalaisiin kustantamoihin on ujutettu sensitiivisyyslukijoiksi tai kokemuslukijoiksi kutsuttu ennakkosensuurikoneisto. Helsingin Sanomien kulttuuritoimittaja Suvi Ahola puolustelee ja valkopesee sensuurijärjestelmää 19.3.2023 julkaistussa jutussaan: "...kokemuslukeminen on keino vääristyneiden tai loukkaavien tapojen estämiseksi".
QuoteJutussa annetaan ymmärtää, että kyse olisi aivan tavanomaisesta teosten kustannustoimittamisesta. Höpöhöpö. Asioista kannattaa puhua niiden oikeilla nimillä ja torjua orwellilainen uuskieli, jolla ilmiöiden taustat ja tavoitteet yritetään piilottaa. Kokemuslukija tarkoittaa oikeasti woke-aktivistia, jolle on nyt annettu merkittävää vaikutusvaltaa siihen, mitä kirjallisuudessa saa sanoa. Loukkaantumalla sensuroimisen ilmiö palautuu politiikkaan, kuten 1970-luvullakin. 2020-luvulla kyse on englanninkielisestä maailmasta Suomeen tuodusta woke-ideologiasta, joka näyttäisi nauttivan laajaa kannatusta vasemmistoliitossa, vihreissä ja myös Helsingin Sanomien kulttuuritoimituksessa. Woke-aktivistien lisäksi Aholan kirjoituksessa mainitaan kaksikin vihreää puoluepoliitikkoa, jotka ohjaavat nyt sensitiivisyyslukijoina kirjallisuutta ideologiseen puhdasoppisuuteen, Bella Forsgrén ja Amu Urhonen.
QuoteKuten 1970-luvullakin joukko kirjailijoita on lähtenyt innolla mukaan sananvapauden rajoittamiseen ja itsesensuuriin. Taistolaiskirjailijoiden jalanjäljillä he ovat valmiita antamaan ulkopuolisille vallan käskeä, kuinka he kuvaavat ihmistä ja maailmaa kirjoissaan. Ettei kukaan vaan loukkaantuisi. Tämä on varma tie kirjallisuuden kuolemaan, sen muuttumiseen merkityksettömäksi.
Loput linkistä.

Taistolaisuuden nimellä tunnettu totalitarismi ei kuollut, se vain tunnetaan nyt eri nimellä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 28.04.2023, 20:24:51
Pyörittelin autoradion kanavia ja kokeilin YLE-puhetta. Mitäpä sieltä muuta tulikaan kuin haastattelu lesbon voimaantumisesta yms. niin paksua tuubaa täydellisen tietämättömyyden rintojenäänellä. Vittu mitä paskaa nämä "oikeuksiaan" vaativat ämmät suolsivat. Kuulosti siltä, että Suomessa militanteilla nuorilla naisilla ei ole velvollisuuksia ja he kokevat olevansa parempia ja viisaampia kuin muut.
Yleisradion budjetin supistaminen tuntuu kuullun perusteella olevan todella tarpeen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 01.05.2023, 14:45:29
Laulu- ja soitinyhtye KISS:in artisti ottaa kantaa. Ei taida erota paljoakaan siitä mitä J.K.Rowling sanoi. Kaippa tämäkin ulostulo saa vihavasemmiston raivon valtaan. Siellä suunnalla kun ei ole tapana kyseenalaistaa omaa ajattelua vaan kaikki muut mielipiteet pitää tukahduttaa. Milloin milläkin koodinimellä.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 01.05.2023, 15:12:22
 och samma sak på finska


https://www.soundi.fi/uutiset/kissin-paul-stanley-kommentoi-lasten-sukupuolenkorjauksia-sai-kritiikkia-kollegoiltaan/
QuoteKiss-keulakuva Paul Stanley on herättänyt runsaasti huomiota lasten sukupuolenkorjauksiin liittyvällä lausunnollaan.

Stanley julkaisi Twitter-tilillään kirjoituksen otsikolla "ajatuksia näkemästäni".

"On ISO ero opettaa hyväksyntää tai normalisoida ja jopa kannustaa elämäntyyliin, joka ajaa nuoria lapsia kyseenalaistamaan seksuaalista identiteettiään ja pitämään sitä jonkinlaisena pelinä, jonka vanhemmat joissain tapauksissa sallivat", Stanley kirjoittaa. "On olemassa yksilöitä, jotka aikuisina saattavat tehdä valinnan ja päättää tarvitsevansa sukupuolenkorjausta, mutta sen muuttaminen peliksi tai vanhempien normalisoidessa sen jonkinlaiseksi luonnolliseksi vaihtoehdoksi tai uskomalla, että koska pikkupoika tykkää leikkiessään pukeutua siskonsa vaatteisiin, tai tyttö veljensä, meidän tulisi johdattaa heitä pidemmälle polulla joka kantaa heidät kauas tekemistensä viattomuudesta."
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.05.2023, 15:39:33
^Soundista löytyi vastineitakin, jotka muistuttivat suunnilleen siitä, että jossain vaiheessa alkoi "Dood looks like a lady" -ilmiö, jossa uranurtaajina olivat mm. New York Dolls, parit 1970-luvun alun brittirokkarit, sittemmin Kiss, Hanoi Rocks, ja suuri osa 1980-luvun heviskenestä. Mutta sillähän ei kai pitäisi olla mitään tekemistä pedofilian kanssa, vaikka bändit varmaankin panivat osittain alaikäisiä bändäreitä?

Mutta oliko sillä jotain tekemistä sen kanssa sellaisen ajatuksen kanssa, että äänilevyteollisuus olisi yrittänyt horjuttaa nuorten kuulijoidensa sukupuoli-identiteettiä, tai ainakin sotkea perinteisten sukupuolten välisiä eroja?

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Noodles 🍜🎸🤓
@TheGnudz

This is a very disappointing take, especially from someone who wore high-heels, makeup, & teased up hair his whole career. As a young kid your band helped teach me that I could be whatever I wanted to be. I guess it was just gimmickry after all. #thatsashame
9.51 ip. · 30. huhtik. 2023

Quotesteve albini
@electricalWSOP
I remember when punk rock came along and made you irrelevant the first time.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.05.2023, 09:35:49
Indianan valtuuston ilkeä valkoinen setämies identifioitui mustaksi lesboksi, osoittaen edistyksellisen vasemmiston mielisairauskäsikirjoituksen järjettömyyden, siis tämän "olen hulllu, koska kuvittelen olevani jotain muuta kuin olen, joten sellaisena minua on muiden kunnioitettava". Vasemmiston naiset saivat kollektiivis-holistisen apinatiltin tästä moninaisuuden lisäyksestä valtuustoon. Kommentointia liitetiedostossa.

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Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 03.05.2023, 14:53:51
KSML 2.5.2023 (https://www.ksml.fi/uutissuomalainen/5901881)
QuoteUuden translain mukaisia hakemuksia juridisen sukupuolen korjaamiseksi on tullut ensimmäisen kuukauden aikana vireille yli tuhat - -  aiemmin hakemuksia tuli runsas parisataa vuodessa - - Hakemuksia naisesta mieheksi on tullut muutama kymmenen enemmän kuin miehestä naiseksi. Aika tasoissa mennään.

Uuden lain myötä henkilön hakemus juridisen sukupuolen korjaamiseksi perustuu häneen omaan selvitykseensä siitä, että hän kokee pysyvästi kuuluvansa vahvistettavaan sukupuoleen. Aiempi laki edellytti lääketieteellistä selvitystä. Uusi laki poisti myös vaatimuksen lisääntymiskyvyttömyydestä.

Lukumäärien ja ongelmien laadun perusteella marginaalinen ilmiö, mutta saipa vuosikausiksi mahtavasti tilaa ihmisoikeusloukkauksena. Mitä pienempi vähemmistö ja mitä pienempi ongelma sitä suurempi huuto. En keksi muuta selitystä, kuin että kaikki sukupuoliasiat ovat kiinnostavampia puheenaiheita kuin esimerkiksi se, riittääkö vaipanvaihtajia vanhainkodissa.

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Post by: P on 03.05.2023, 15:02:06
^Tosin ammattihuijareille ja muille rikollisille tuli yksi uusi keino lisää nimenvaihdosten rinnalle yrittää kätkeä taustansa...

Uusi nimi, uusi sukupuoli ja ennen kaikkea uusi sotu... Ja kaiken saa vain anomuksella.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.05.2023, 13:40:21
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Post by: Betonikostaja on 04.05.2023, 14:39:43
Vihermädätys kiinnostaa opettajaopiskelijoita enemmän kuin kasvun ja oppimisen edistäminen :facepalm:

Eli siis täyttä Pirkkalan koulukokeilua luvassa edelleen.
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Post by: jmk on 04.05.2023, 16:28:02
32 % katsoo työnsä päämääräksi vihreiden päämäärien edistämisen.

Entä mikä osuus katsoo päämäärääksi punaisten päämäärien edistämisen?

Sinisten?
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.05.2023, 22:37:55
Koko juttu varmuuskopiona liitetiedostossa.

Quote from: https://www.oikeamedia.com/o1-201000
Blogi: Mikko Paunio, to 04.05.2023

Äärivasemmisto ja vihreät liittoutuivat oligarkkien kanssa ja paljastivat vanhan epädemokraattisen luonteensa

Paavo Arhinmäen tarina Suomeen syntyvästä historiallisesti kaikkien aikojen äärioikeistolaisimmasta hallituksesta ei ole muuta kuin oman epädemokraattisen maailmankuvan projisointia perussuomalaisiin.

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Ehkä tärkein klassisen ja uuden WOKE-marxilaisuuden ero on siinä, että WOKE-marxismissa luokkataistelun tilalle on otettu Maailman Talousfooruminkin (WEF) omaksuma kertomus heteroseksuaalisen valkoisen miehen luomasta rakenteellisesta sorrosta naisia, homoja, lesboja, transihmisiä, muslimeja, mustia, ruskeaihoisia ja vammaisia sekä kasvi- että eläinkuntaa sekä ilmastoa kohtaan.

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... Maailman Talousfoorumin oligarkit ovat tarkoituksella yhteistyössä em. sorrettujen vähemmistöjen kanssa kärjistäneet roturistiriitoja USA:ssa ajaakseen omia etujaan ja saattaakseen erityisesti meidät tavalliset ihmiset ahtaalla. ... vielä 15 vuotta sitten kapitalismia kiivaasti vastustaneet äärivasemmistolaiset ovat sittemmin liittoutuneet vihollisensa eli maapallon teknoeliitin ja Maailman Talousfoorumin oligarkkien kanssa.

Tämä uusi merkillinen allianssi ajaa ns. ESG-kapitalismia eli valtioiden ja suuryritysten "vastuullista kapitalismia", jota myös historiallisista syistä kuvaillaan oikeutetusti USA:ssa korporaatiofasismiksi.

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Tämä uusi "vastuullinen kapitalismi" vyöryy nyt silmiemme eteen kaikista viestimistä. Mainokset täyttyvät muun värisistä ihmisistä ja ...  valtamedia rummuttaa tarinaa kuolevasta planeetasta 24/7.

EU:ssa "vastuulliselle kapitalismille" säädetään kiihtyvään tahtiin yhteisölainsäädäntöä ilman https://www.euronext.com/en/news/esg-laws-regulation, että tästä sallitaan mitään julkista keskustelua, vaikka pelissä on mm. meidän työeläkerahastojen suuret pääomat.

Kertomus ilmastonmuutoksesta, luontokadosta ja vähemmistöjen rakenteellisesta sorrosta on koskematon ja sen vastustaminen on sama kuin vastustaisi äitiyttä
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Säröjä on kuitenkin alkanut ilmetä, koska nämä nuoret äärivasemmalla olevat punavihreät ovat pettäneet työväestön ja ajavat nyt meitä tavallisia ihmisiä sortavaa politiikkaa.

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Punavihreän edistymön epäinhimillinen henkilöihin kohdistuva känselöintipolitiikka ja kaiken "fasistisen tai äärioikeistolaisen" keskustelun tukahduttaminen Maailman Talousfoorumin Suuresta kertomuksesta ja sen vaatimasta Suuresta Resetistä osoittaa, että äärivasemmisto palasi taas vanhaan epädemokraattiseen kotiinsa.

Paavo Arhinmäen epätoivoinen propaganda, jota on levitetty ympäri maailmaa punavihreällä journalistiverkostolla, maahamme synnytettävästä Suomen historian äärioikeistolaisimmasta hallituksesta, ei ole muuta kuin oman epädemokraattisen maailmankuvan perussuomalaisiin kohdistuvaa projisointia.
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Post by: Pallopääkissa on 05.05.2023, 23:03:12
Jarkko Tontti | Identiteettipolitiikka ja liberalismi #357
https://youtu.be/vBPLiFJtTxc
QuoteJarkko Tontti on kirjailija ja lakimies, joka on viime aikoina niittänyt mainetta mm identiteettipolitiikan ja cancel kulttuurin kritisoijana. Monelle hän on Suomen tärkeimpiä liberaaleja ääniä ja sekä oikeistolaisen että vasemmistolaisen populismin vastustajia, toisten mielestä hän vähättelee vähemmistöjen ahdinkoa. Tässä jaksossa haastan Jarkkoa ja yritän päästä syvemmälle hänen ajatuksiin löytääkseni, mitä hänen raflaavien lauseiden takana piilee.
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Post by: qwerty on 06.05.2023, 08:58:21
Suomi, eikun Ruotsi mainittu! Nykyhallitus korjaa edellisten tekoja. Lasten silpominen (tässä tarkoituksessa) ei ole tervettä toimintaa, joten kielsivät moisen kokonaan.
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DeSantis ei lähde mukaan punaisten sanamagiaan vaan sanoo asiat kuten ne ovat.
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Post by: ikuturso on 12.05.2023, 09:21:18
Kohti polyamoriaa?

Tällaista tulee silmille tori piste fi oheismainontana.

Joo, parhaille kavereille vaan tietty joo, mutta....

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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 19.05.2023, 10:08:15
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ex-biden-nuclear-official-sam-brinton-arrested-as-fugitive-from-justice

Johdonmukaista rekrytointia: ääniä varastava Bidenin hallinto palkkaa korkeaan virkaan lentokentillä käsilaukkuja varastavan miehen, joka kuvittelee olevansa nainen.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.05.2023, 18:43:30
Tamponiautomaatti ei viihtynyt poikien vessassa.

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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.05.2023, 13:22:13
USAn kouluissa on ollut tapana järjestää väittelyitä, ja tuomari sitten julistaa voittaja. Nyt kuitenkin jotkut bolsevikkituomarit julistavat häviäjä, jos väittelee väärillä mielipiteillä.

Quote from: https://www.thefp.com/p/judges-ruin-high-school-debate-tournamentsAt High School Debates, Debate Is No Longer Allowed

At national tournaments, judges are making their stances clear: students who argue 'capitalism can reduce poverty' or 'Israel has a right to defend itself' will lose—no questions asked.

By James Fishback

May 25, 2023
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Debate Judge Kriti Sharma concurs: under her list of "Things That Will Cause You To Automatically Lose," number three is "Referring to immigrants as 'illegal.' "

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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.05.2023, 18:03:19
Target -myymäläketju USAssa edistää wokea, satanismia ja pedofiliaa.

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Post by: Dangr on 28.05.2023, 18:55:47
Miettinyt tätä muotialoista tulevaa huhumäärää, pedoi, balenciagaa, uhrauksia ja paholaista.

Jos katsoo Keringiä joka omistaa paljon muotimerkkejä, kuten balenciagan, niin näyttääkö logo miltään?
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.05.2023, 11:00:45
Omankäden oikeutta. Hyvin syönyt musta hakee tavaran suoraan hyllystä.

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Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 29.05.2023, 13:01:01
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.05.2023, 11:00:45
Omankäden oikeutta. Hyvin syönyt musta hakee tavaran suoraan hyllystä.

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Tuossa oli kaverilla kieltämättä asennetta!
En kannata rikollisuuttaa missään nimessä, mutta kyllä tuollainen selkeä määrätietoinen asenne tekee minuun vaikutuksen, täytyy tunnustaa, että pieni sympatia heräsi tätä tekijää kohtaan ja olihan kaveri selvästi nälkäinen 8)
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Post by: Huolestunut Kansalainen on 29.05.2023, 13:12:45
Quote from: Swen OF Sweden on 29.05.2023, 13:01:01
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.05.2023, 11:00:45
Omankäden oikeutta. Hyvin syönyt musta hakee tavaran suoraan hyllystä.

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Tuossa oli kaverilla kieltämättä asennetta!
En kannata rikollisuuttaa missään nimessä, mutta kyllä tuollainen selkeä määrätietoinen asenne tekee minuun vaikutuksen, täytyy tunnustaa, että pieni sympatia heräsi tätä tekijää kohtaan ja olihan kaveri selvästi nälkäinen 8)

Video ilman kontekstia ja konfirmaatiobias, eihän sitä muuta tarvitakaan. Missä video on kuvattu? Kenen toimesta? Mikä on konteksti? Tietysti jos haluaa vain elää NPC elämää, voi edellä olevat kysymykset unohtaa ja siirtyä suoraan öyhöttämään.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.05.2023, 14:15:37
^Osa ketjun kommentoijista esittää, että kyseessä näytelmä, jossa ravintola on mukana.

Jos noin olisi, tekijöiden motivaatioita voimme vain arvaita.

Ja eipä videoissa yleensä ole kontekstia mukana.  :P
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 31.05.2023, 09:19:12
Joku äiti valittaa, että hänen 7-vuotias non-binääri tyttärensä kärsii siitä, että Target-myymälän pervo-osasto on siirretty prideparaatipaikalta jonnekin tähän sivummalle. Näitä juttu ei voi keksiä! Tosin, voihan tämä olla näytelty, mutta aika hyvin näytelty, siinä tapaksessa.

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Kommentti: "Having a 7 year old non-binary child is like having a vegan cat. We know who's making the decisions."
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Post by: qwerty on 31.05.2023, 15:28:31
Pesiksen pelaajilla on tullut mitta täyteen?
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Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 31.05.2023, 17:20:24
Sama Googlen kääntäjällä myös sivistyskiellä 8)

Isoja uutisia: Pelaajat ovat ottaneet yhteyttä MLB-pelaajaliittoon @MLBPA, ja se on nyt ottanut yhteyttä @MLB:hen, koska pelaajat ovat huolissaan joukkueista, jotka ajavat sosiaalisia/poliittisia kysymyksiä, jotka puolestaan ​​näkyvät pelaajien suositteluina. Tämä on ollut jatkuva ongelma, eivätkä pelaajat tunne olevansa suojattuja.
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) 30. toukokuuta 2023

    Kuten sanoin, seuraava Dodgers-pelaaja, joka puhuu, aikoi tehdä 🔥lausunnon. Tapaa Blake Treinen, mies, joka asettaa Jumalan ja maan pesäpallon edelle. NÄIN se tehdään. Bravo Blake. Pelaajaliiton @MLBPA on tehostettava ja suojeltava pelaajia poliittisilta tavoitteilta! pic.twitter.com/ZRa5ZnDHqc
    — Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) 31. toukokuuta 2023


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Post by: ikuturso on 31.05.2023, 21:22:17
Ei kuulu oikein BLM-juttuihin. Ehkä tänne tiedostavalle puolelle.

YLE on koko päivän radiouutisissa ja illan pääuutisissa toitottanut, kuinka mustat eivät saa USA:ssa asuntojaan kaupaksi rasismin vuoksi.

Joku nainen oli yrittänyt myydä asuntoaan pitkään ja hintatarjoukset olivat olleet alle markkina-arvojen. Niinpä hän päätti "valkopestä" asuntonsa ja poisti kaikki tummaihoisten valokuvat näkyvistä. Poisti kaapeista ja naulakoista tyypilliset afrokulttuuriin liittyvät vaatteet ja korkeakorkoiset kengät. Poisti pesutiloista mustien hiuksille sopivat shampoot ja tumman ihon sävyiset meikit. Ja ZAP. Talo meni kaupaksi että heilahti kunnon markkinahintaan.

Rasistit valkoiset ajattelevat ilmeisesti, että n-sanalle ei tarvitse maksaa, tai että se ei ole osannut huoltaa taloa tai että siellä on jotain ötököitä tai muuta piilossa. En tiedä.

Mutta uutisessa ei kerrottu, mikseivät mustat asiakkaat ole tarjonneet tuosta asunnosta markkinahintaa. ?!?

Koita myydä tupakoitu auto tai asunto tupakoimattomalle tai subbari-wunderbaum-auto ikämiehelle. Joskus vaan myyntiartikkelia pitää tuunata, jos kohderyhmä on eri alakulttuuria tai intressiryhmää kuin myyjä - tai sitten myydä kaltaiselleen. Yksi tuttu on ostanut parikin peräkkäistä pakettiautoaan manneilta ja hyvin on toiminut.

Ihme sensaatio taas. Löytynyt yksi n-sana amerikasta joka sai talostaan paremmin rahaa, kun piilotti parit korkokengät ja valokuvat. Uutinen on valmis Suomeen asti ja taas esimerkki vaaleanpunanahkojen suuresta synnistä ruskeita ihmisiä kohtaan.

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MUOKS: näköjään YLE on nyt tiedostavuudessaan herännyt tähän. Samasta asiasta löytyy pikku-uutisia pitkin matkaa, eli ilmiö ei ole uusi, eikä kohdistu pelkästään N-sanoihin. Kyse voi olla mistä tahansa alakulttuurista tai etnisyydestä, mikä näkyy asunnossa - tai jopa ympäristössä?
https://newsone.com/4188364/what-is-appraisal-discrimination/ (https://newsone.com/4188364/what-is-appraisal-discrimination/)

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What is appraisal discrimination?
Loveland, Ohio family Erica and Aaron Parker put their home up for sale for $525,000. They were ecstatic when they quickly got their first offer for around $500,000, but the happiness soon turns to confusion when they got a call from their Realtor explaining their house was only appraised for $465,000. That was $65,000 less than the Parker's original listing for the home. They were victims of "appraisal discrimination," when a home is valued lower than what it's worth, solely based on the home owner's race, religion, or sex. The family was outraged and demanded to see a copy of the appraisal. Once received they found it riddled with errors. The appraisal stated the house was built 15 years ago when it was built in 2014. The appraisal also said there were no renovations, but the Parkers had made updates to their home. The family tried to get the appraisal company and the lenders to change the report, they refused. Their only hope was to get another appraisal. The family took all the family photos off the walls, replaced some with photos of their white neighbors, and removed anything that might speak to their blackness. Once, their home was "whitewashed" they proceeded with the second appraisal and the results were heartbreaking.

Amy Goodman, the family's white realtor, and fair housing officer agreed to take the family's place at the next appraising just further the illusion that no one black was the house owner. The second appraisal valued the house at $557,000, which was $92,000 higher than the first appraisal and nearly $50,000 higher than the agreed sales price. The Parker family was indeed being discriminated against based on the color of their skin, a problem many Black and Hispanic homeowners are running into far too often.
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Post by: DuPont on 31.05.2023, 22:06:16
Siis edes mustat eivät halua sijoittaa mustien asuntoihin tai mustien asuinalueisiin = valkoisten vika.
Ok. Ymmärsin...
Tottapuhuen hankkisin itsekin tontin lähempänä juutalaisia ja valkoisia kuin mustia/romaneja/afrikkalaisia/lähi-itäläisiä, mutta syynä ehkä on ilmastonmuutos....
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 31.05.2023, 22:59:31
Quote from: ikuturso on 31.05.2023, 21:22:17Ja ZAP. Talo meni kaupaksi että heilahti kunnon markkinahintaan.

Kuuntelin toisella korvalla, mutta ymmärsin kai asian lopulta siten, että ei siinä mitään myyty (vaikka sellaisen mielikuvan YLE virittikin tähän epäuutiseen), vaan että pankki hyväksyi talon uuden lainan takuudeksi isommalla summalla, kun pankille taloa esitteli valkoinen mies, joka kaiketi esiteltiin mustan naisen mieheksi tms., vai miten se meni. Jos siis ymmärsin oikein, voi olla että en. Kai siinä valiteltiin sitäkin sijainti-sijainti-sijainti-ongelmaa, että mustien asuinseutujen taloista saa myydessä vähemmän rahaa kuin valkoisten alueen taloista.

Älkää lainatko edellistä kappaletta. Katsokaa juttu itse jos haluatte kommentoida.

Mutta siis: miksi helvetissä jonkun toisen mantereen randomtyypin talon takuusarvot kuuluvat YLEn iltauutisiin? No siksi, että pääsevät sanomaan "rasimi". Vähän samalla tavalla kuin täällä jotkut tykkäävät sanoa "neekeri"!
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Post by: Betonikostaja on 01.06.2023, 00:35:57
Suomen asuntomarkkinoille rasismi ei ole ilmeisesti vielä ehtinyt, kun neekerit asuvat aina vuokralla ja pääsevät yleensä asuntojonoissa kantisten ohi. Mutta hyvä tietää, että näissäkin yhteyksissä voi tulevaisuudessa odottaa rasismikiistoja. Mistäpä sitä rasismia ei löytyisi.

Talon vakuusarvossa pankki ei kuitenkaan ajattele muuta kuin rahaa, rahaa ja rahaa. Jos valkoisen omistama kiinteistö herättää enemmän luottamusta kuin jokin epäilyttävä neekeriluola, niin minkä sille voi.
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Post by: Bona on 01.06.2023, 06:53:11
Ruotsissa on tapana myydä asunnot kalustettuina. Siellä on stailausfirmoja, jotka stailaavat kodin myyntikuntoon tarvittaessa vaikka lainakalustein. Joka välittäjän ohje numero yksi on se, että henkilökohtaiset perhevalokuvat täytyy ottaa pois näkyviltä. Ihmiset kokevat ne kiusaannuttaviksi ja heille tulee sellainen olo, että he kuokkivat jonkun kodissa.

Jutussa  nainen teki näin ja sai talonsa myytyä.
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Post by: ikuturso on 01.06.2023, 07:39:42
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 31.05.2023, 22:59:31
Quote from: ikuturso on 31.05.2023, 21:22:17Ja ZAP. Talo meni kaupaksi että heilahti kunnon markkinahintaan.

Kuuntelin toisella korvalla, mutta ymmärsin kai asian lopulta siten, että ei siinä mitään myyty (vaikka sellaisen mielikuvan YLE virittikin tähän epäuutiseen), vaan että pankki hyväksyi talon uuden lainan takuudeksi isommalla summalla, kun pankille taloa esitteli valkoinen mies, joka kaiketi esiteltiin mustan naisen mieheksi tms., vai miten se meni. Jos siis ymmärsin oikein, voi olla että en. Kai siinä valiteltiin sitäkin sijainti-sijainti-sijainti-ongelmaa, että mustien asuinseutujen taloista saa myydessä vähemmän rahaa kuin valkoisten alueen taloista.

Joo... Voi olla että koko roskaa ei edes myyty. Ainakin tuossa myös lainaamassani jutussa oli kyse ostotarjouksista. Nehän on vain tarjouksia ja niiden toteutuminen onkin sitten toinen juttu, kun tulee kuntotarkastaja ja tarjouksensa voi vetää pois jos jotain ilmenee tai edes "ilmenee". Suomessakin ns. "sitova tarjous" on kait aika heikkoa valuuttaa, jos asunnon myyjä saa välittäjän laatiman paperin, jossa luvataan tehdä kaupat hintaan x, ja myyjä sanoo jippii ja tekee sen perusteella liikkeitä ja tarjoajan peruttua jää kahden kämpän loukkuun tms.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 01.06.2023, 11:45:19
Asunnon stailauksessa on ollut pari helppoa asiaa. Henkilökohtainen pois ja muustakin roinasta yli puolet pois jos on normaaliperhe. Ja tasot tyhjiksi sekä jääkaapin ovesta kaikki pois.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 01.06.2023, 15:36:57
Seiska uutisoi että Miss-Suomi kisailijat on valittu ...

https://www.seiska.fi/kotimaa/miss-suomi-semifinalistit-on-valittu-mukana-rantabaari-nayttelija-ja-transsukupuolinen-kilpailija/1042633

.... ja mukana on mies.

QuoteMiss Suomi -kilpailun vuoden 2023 kilpailijat on valittu. Casting-tilaisuus järjestettiin lauantaina (27.5.) Helsingissä. Tapahtumaan osallistui 70 naista, joista tuomaristo valitsi jatkoon 20 kaunotarta.

Semifinalistit julkistetaan keskiviikkona 7. kesäkuuta. Tänä vuonna semifinaaliin tiensä raivasivat muun muassa 22-vuotias oikeustieteen opiskelija, Rantabaari-tv-sarjasta tuttu näyttelijä, 21-vuotias kauppatieteiden opiskelija sekä 27-vuotias lentoemäntä. Lisäksi semifinaalissa nähdään ensimmäistä kertaa transsukupuolinen kilpailija.


:facepalm: x 100
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: VeePee on 01.06.2023, 17:28:32
Tuossa asunnon valkopesutapauksessa kyse ei ollut asunnon myymisestä vaan asunnon käyttämisestä lainan vakuutena. Onhan se ihan selvää, että arvioitsija arvioi kokonaistilanteen eli jos kämppä on vähän sotkuisesti pidetty ja sisustettu ja asukkaat profiililtaan ehkä vähemmän luotettavamman oloisia, niin vakuusarvio huomioiden kaikki riskit on alhaisempi kuin jos asunto on siisti ja vaikkapa makuuhuoneen pilvenpolttobongin sijaan nurkassa onkin golfbägi. Ihan normistailausta arvon nostamiseksi.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.06.2023, 17:33:55
^Kyse ei ole niinkään asunnon nykyarvosta, vaan enemmän asunnon omistajan arvosta, nyt ja tulevaisuudessa, pankin kannalta. Siis tuleeko hän olemaan pankille hyvä asiakas. YLE etsi ja löysi tästä liiketoiminnan perusasiasta rotuprofiloinnin hajua, jotta pääsisi jälleen kerran länkyttämään suosikkisanaansa: rasismia!
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Post by: Tomatoface on 01.06.2023, 17:54:51
Tämä on aina paras hetki vuodessa päivittää myös boikottilista :)

Tosin sieltä harvoin pääsee pois mutta näitäkin on
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.06.2023, 18:42:22
Chrome suomensi. Paikkailin muutaman pahimman väärinkäännöksen.

Quote from: https://anncoulter.com/2023/05/31/the-anniversary-the-media-would-prefer-you-forget/Vuosipäivä, jonka media mieluummin unohtaisi
31. toukokuuta 2023 kirjoittanut Ann Coulter

Kuinka missasin George Floydin kuoleman kolmannen vuosipäivän? Jäikö media kiinni nukkumisesta? Kolme vuotta sitten Floydille pidettiin hautajaiset kolmessa osavaltiossa, kuljetettiin kultaarkussa ja ajettiin viimeiselle leposijalleen hevoskärryissä. Se oli kuin faaraon hautajaiset.

      Floydin kuolemasta 25. toukokuuta 2020 vuoden loppuun, pelkästään The New York Times julkaisi hänestä yli 4 000 artikkelia. Mutta tasan kolme vuotta myöhemmin Floydin nimi pääsi vain kolmeen Times-esitykseen – hetkellisesti ja juuri ja juuri.

      Toivovatko mediat (ja demokraatit, Hollywood ja yritys-Amerikka, yliopistot ja peruskoulut, sairaalat ja armeija ja presidentti Biden), että unohdamme heidän oudon kampanjansa saada mustat amerikkalaiset entistä vihaisemmiksi?

      25.5.2020 lähtien mustille ihmisille välitetty yksimielinen viesti ilman keskeytyksiä tai ristiriitoja on ollut, että he asuvat valkoisen ylivallan täynnä olevassa maassa, kaikki paha, mitä heille tapahtuu, on todiste rasismista, ja voi muuten. , poliisi yrittää tappaa heidät.

      Sinä  olet uhri ! viesti tuskin saa aikaan tähtikäyttäytymistä kenelläkään. Se oli suunnattu ryhmälle, jolla oli jo melko korkea rikosten määrä, ja se melkein tuhosi maamme.

      Vuoden 2020 loppuun mennessä kansallinen murhien määrä oli noussut ennennäkemättömällä 30 prosentilla ja on jatkanut nousuaan siitä lähtien.

      Kuten Heather Mac Donald kirjoittaa uudessa kirjassaan " When Race Trumps Merit ":

      "Uusia murhaennätyksiä tehtiin vuonna 2021 Philadelphiassa, Columbuksessa, Indianapolisissa, Rochesterissa, Louisvillessä, Toledossa, Baton Rougessa, St. Paulissa, Portlandissa ja muualla. Väkivaltaisuudet jatkuivat vuoteen 2022 asti. Tammikuu 2022 oli Baltimoren kuolettavin kuukausi lähes 50 vuoteen, 36 ihmistä kuoli verrattuna 35:een vuonna 1973, jolloin kaupungin väkiluku oli paljon suurempi."

      Kun musta yhteisö on itse kantanut väkivallan suurimman osan, hallitsevan luokan Black Lives Matter -liikkeen haltuunotto on tähän mennessä saanut kymmeniä tuhansia mustia ihmisiä tapettua.

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     Vaikka tunnin välein julkaistavat "rasismipäivitykset" ovat päättyneet, BLM:n valheet ovat kalkkeutuneet vastaanotetuksi viisaudeksi. Se on edelleen oppikysymys, että mustat ihmiset ovat järjestelmällisesti rasistisen poliisin uhreja.

      Itse asiassa, kuten Mac Donald on dokumentoinut vuosia, musta tappaa poliisin 400 kertaa todennäköisemmin, kuin poliisit aseettoman mustan.

      Viimeisimpien  lukujen mukaan poliisit tappoivat vuonna 2021 yhteensä kahdeksan aseetonta mustaa. Samana vuonna mustat epäillyt tappoivat arviolta 29 poliisia. Tietysti mustia on paljon enemmän (47 miljoonaa) kuin poliiseja (700 000). Siten omenoiden ja omenoiden välinen vertailu toimii seuraavasti: Jokaista 100 000 mustaa kohden poliisi tappaa 1/100 aseistautumattomasta mustasta; jokaista 100 000 poliisia kohden mustat miehet tappavat neljä.

      Ehkä mustien poliisien äitien pitäisi antaa pojilleen "The Talk". Poika, tee kaikkesi välttääksesi joutumisen mustaan ​​naapurustoon. Ole valpas koko ajan, vaikka istuisit ryhmäautossasi. Jos mahdollista, älä pidätä mustaa epäiltyä. Jos sinun on aivan pakko, varmista, että sinulla on tukijoukkoja.

      Yksi henkilö, joka oli liian täynnä omaa omahyväisyyttään huomatakseen, että hänen puolueensa muu jäsen oli päättänyt pitää äidin "rotutietoisuudesta?" ("racial reckoning")* oli Rep Ilhan Omar. Hän toisti tilaisuudessa sanasta sanaan täsmälleen saman kaavan rasistisista poliiseista ja "mustista ruumiista".

      "Huolimatta valtion määräämästä lisääntyneestä tutkimuksesta ja valokeilasta mustiin ruumiisiin kohdistuvan väkivallan lisääntymisestä", hän kertoi The  Guardianille , "sitä tapahtuu edelleen samaa tahtia, ellei enemmänkin."

      (Kolmannen maailman maahanmuuttajissa ihailen eniten heidän ymmärrystään siitä, että heidän esi-isänsä olivat ihmisiä, jotka eivät täysin kyenneet rakentamaan toimivaa yhteiskuntaa, ja siksi, jos he sattuvat pääsemään menestyvään maahan, kuten USA:han, heidän pitäisi olla hiljaa ja kuunnella. ja oppia.)

      "Valtion valtuuttamaa väkivaltaa" "mustia ruumiita" vastaan? Tosiasia on, että kaikki poliisin mustien ampumiset yhteensä (oikeutetut, perusteettomat, aseelliset ja aseettomat) ovat pienempi  prosenttiosuus  mustien murhien määrästä (2 %) kuin poliisiammunta valkoisten ja latinalaisamerikkalaisten murhien määrästä (9 %).

      Mutta ne  98 %  mustista, jotka muut mustat tappavat, eivät kiinnosta mediaa tai demokraattista puoluetta. Se on ratkaisevaa, että 0,01 % poliisin tappamista mustista päätyy otsikoihin.

      Naapuri: RYHMÄN JÄSENET ampuivat juuri 9-Vuotiaan tyttäresi SACRAMENTON PARKISSA!

      Musta äiti:  Ole hyvä Jumala, kerro minulle, etteivät ampujat olleet valkoisia!

      Listattuaan sivuja ja sivuja mustista lapsista, jotka mustat rikolliset tappoivat mustien asuinalueilla, Mac Donald kirjoittaa: "Koska mustien lasten hyökkääjät ovat itsekin ylivoimaisesti mustia, maa vaihtaa puheenaihetta, jottei sitä syytetä mustien rikosten kiinnittämisestä tabuihin."

      Joten mustia ruumiita kasaantuu edelleen, ja ainoat ihmiset, jotka pitävät siitä, ovat konservatiivit - ja poliisi.

      Hyvää vuosipäivää.


* Racial Reckoning is a response to the mass protests following the police-involved killings of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, Tony McDade, and Rayshard Brooks during the spring and summer of 2020. These events are part of a long history of racism in the United States.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Hohtis on 02.06.2023, 02:42:16
23 media -kanavan Arto Koskelolla erittäin valaiseva näkemys suvaitsevaisuudesta ja sen korvaamisesta "sietämisellä". Todella raikasta ajattelua.

https://youtu.be/xGaZdVMBwes?t=1076 (https://youtu.be/xGaZdVMBwes?t=1076)

Tuosta ajankohdasta 1 min 30 s aikaanne, kiitos. Eli 18:00 -19:30 tuolla videolla.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.06.2023, 06:59:24
Quote from: Hohtis on 02.06.2023, 02:42:16
23 media -kanavan Arto Koskelolla erittäin valaiseva näkemys suvaitsevaisuudesta ja sen korvaamisesta "sietämisellä". Todella raikasta ajattelua.

https://youtu.be/xGaZdVMBwes?t=1076 (https://youtu.be/xGaZdVMBwes?t=1076)

Tuosta ajankohdasta 1 min 30 s aikaanne, kiitos. Eli 18:00 -19:30 tuolla videolla.

Suokikkiaiheeni!

Sietämis-paheksumista se "tolerance" alkujaan tarkoittikin, mutta sitten orwellistiset postmodernistit kielentuhoajat muuttivat sanan määritelmän päälaelleen, nuoleskelu-nöyristelyksi. Sota on rauhaa ja silleen.

Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.03.2016, 23:39:10
Nykysuvaitsevaisuus on käytännössä välinpitämättömyyden ("kaikki käy") ia ahdasmielisyyden ("paitsi nuivuus") yhdistelmä, siis

1. repressiivistä eli tukahduttavaa toleranssia
2. kohdennetusti ahdasmielistä välinpitämättömyyttä
3. kansallisfobista vastuuttomuutta, etnomasokismia ja homoetnofobiaa
4. kansainvälisen sosialismin ja väkivaltaisten vallankumousten sietämistä ja edistämistä
5. sosialismin vastustamisen vastustamista
6. perinteisten arvojen vastustamista
7. rasismia eurooppalaisia kohtaan

Repressiivinen toleranssi (Herbert Marcuse)

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Critique_of_Pure_Tolerance
... Repressive Tolerance" by Marcuse. In his contribution, Marcuse argues that the ideal of tolerance belongs to a liberal, democratic tradition that has become exhausted. Liberal society is based on a form of domination so subtle that the majority accept and even will their servitude. Marcuse believes that under such conditions tolerance as traditionally understood serves the cause of domination and that a new kind of tolerance is therefore needed: tolerance of the Left, subversion, and revolutionary violence, combined with intolerance of the Right, existing institutions, and opposition to socialism.

Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.08.2020, 12:21:13
Quote from: Riukulehto on 27.08.2020, 11:51:48
Quote from: LepomäkiSen sijaan, että vain suvaitsemme, meidän tulee juhlia erilaisuutta.

Paskan marjat! Suvaitsevaisuus on englanniksi käännettynä "tolerance". Se ei todellakaan tarkoita mitään juhlimista, vaan jonkin ilmiön (ja sitä edistävän tahon) ehdollista sietämistä tiettyyn pisteeseen asti.

https://www.sanakirja.org/search.php?q=suvaitsevaisuus&l=17&l2=3
Wiki: Tolerance or toleration is the state of tolerating, or putting up with, conditionally.

Suvaitsemattomuus vastaavasti tarkoittaa, että ilmiön ehdollisen sietämisen raja on ylittynyt. Jos ihminen suvaitsee aivan kaikkea, hän sietää aivan kaikkia ilmiöitä, ilman mitään rajoja, myös itseensä kohdistuneena.

Ja siihen suuntaahan maailman on menossa!

Quote from: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuvaitsevaisuusSuvaitsevaisuus tai suvaitsevuustarkoittaa käsitteen alkuperäisen määritelmän mukaan sellaisen asian suvaitsemista eli sietämistä, sallimista ja hyväksymistä, jota itse paheksuu ja vierastaa ja pitää vähemmän hyvänä, jopa vääränä. Siihen kuuluu asenteena vieraiden tapojen ja uskomusten paheksunta, ajatteluprosessina vastakkaisten moraalisten tekijöiden punnitseminen, sekä toimintana salliminen ja puuttumattomuus.

Uudemmassa määritelmässä, joka poikkeaa klassisesta määritelmästä ja on myös ristiriidassa sen kanssa, suvaitsevaisuus nähdään arvostamisena, ja siihen kuuluu myönteinen suhtautuminen erilaisuuteen, monimuotoisuuteen, vieraisiin tapoihin ja uskomuksiin, joustava ajattelu, avomielisyys ja ennakkoluulottomuus, sekä hyväksyntä ja tunnustuksen antaminen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.06.2023, 07:40:05
Vielä vaan lisää!

Quote from: https://puheenvuoro.uusisuomi.fi/hankamaki/81107-suvaitsemattomuus-takaa-laadun/Suvaitsemattomuus takaa laadun
J. Sakari Hankamäki | 21.8.2011
Suvaitseminen on suhdekäsite. Se on voimassa suvaitsijan ja suvaitun asian välillä. Suvaitseminen on suhteellista siksikin, ettei suvaitsemisessa ole useinkaan osoitettavissa mitään ehdottomia moraalisen hyvän arviointiperusteita saati sellaista eettistä hyvää, jonka vuoksi suvaitsemisen tulisi olla ehdotonta. Mikäli niitä löytyisi, puhuttaisiin suvaitsemisen sijaan eettisestä oikeutuksesta .

Suvaitsemiseen liittyykin tiettyä valheellisuutta. Se merkitsee, että suvaitsija hyväksyy jotakin vastoin todellisia asenteitaan tai parempaa tietoaan. Suvaitseminen on siis sietämistä. Se merkitsee, että suvaitsija hyväksyy asian tai ilmiön, vaikka hän tietääkin, että kyseinen asia ei ole oikein tai perusteltua eikä hän kannata sitä. Niinpä suvaitsija tulee pettäneeksi sekä muita ihmisiä että itseään valehtelemalla kannattavansa tai edustavansa suvaitsemaansa asiaa.
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Filosofiassa ja tieteessä pitää edustaa totuutta, oikeudenmukaisuutta ja yleistä hyvää. Niinpä niiden piirissä ei voida ainakaan tarkoituksellisesti tinkiä päämääristä ja alkaa suvaita asioita ja ilmiöitä vailla perusteita.
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Esimerkiksi filosofian piirissä on suositeltavaa tavoitella suoranaista suvaitsemattomuutta, eli pyrkiä tieteen klassisten ihanteiden mukaisesti varmaan, selkeään ja kirkkaaseen tietoon virheet ja erehdykset kriittisesti pois sulkien. Näin ajatellen suvaitsemattomuus takaa laadun ja on hyveellinen asenne.
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Politiikan piirissä vaaditaan usein suvaitsemista ja suhtaudutaan kielteisesti suvaitsemattomuuteen, vaikka juuri suvaitsemattomuus merkitsisi laatukriteerien korottamista ja sitä kautta pääsyä korkeatasoisempaan yhteiskuntaelämään.
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Ihminen, joka vaatii kaiken suvaitsemista, menettelee ristiriitaisesti ja tuottaa ristiriitoja myös yhteiskuntaan. Muutamat ovat vaatineet liberalismin ja yleisen suvaitsevuuden valossa esimerkiksi islamin parempaa suvaitsemista, vaikka islam sinänsä on suhtautunut varsin suvaitsemattomasti sekä uskonnottomiin että muiden uskontokuntien edustajiin, jotka onkin islamin piirissä leimattu vääräuskoisiksi.
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Jotta suvaitsemista voisi ylipäänsä olla, sen tulee olla rajoitettua ja nojata järkiperäisiin perusteluihin. Niiden osoittamisessa taas tiede on oivallinen apuneuvo omassa järkiperäisessä suvaitsemattomuudessaan.
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Monikulttuurinen' merkitsee yleensä samaa kuin 'sisäisesti ristiriitainen', sillä kukaan ei voi vilpittömästi kannattaa keskenään ristiriidassa olevia ajattelujärjestelmiä. Niinpä monikulttuuriseen yhteiskuntaan on uskottu päästävän nimenomaan suvaitsemisen kautta.

Mutta suvaitseminen puolestaan lisää konflikteja, kitkoja ja ristiriitoja. Sitä kautta monikulttuurinen yhteiskunta vaatii lisää valvontaa, tarkkailua ja standardisoimista. Monikulttuurisuuden ideologia on omiaan johtamaan yksiarvoiseen yhteiskuntaan: monokulttuuriin. Kympin kysymys onkin, miksi pyrkiä tekemään jokaisesta kansallisvaltiosta monikulttuurisia, kun maailma sinänsä on jo monikulttuurinen koostuessaan monesta erilaisesta kulttuurista. Kansallisvaltiot pitävät parhaiten yllä myös kulttuurien moneutta, kun taas monikulttuurisuutta edistämällä ajaudutaan Neuvostoliittoon, jossa kaikki kulttuurit lainehtivat yhtenä viljavana elovainiona.
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Kaiken suvaitseminen on johtamassa myös politiikan laadun huonontumiseen ja sitä kautta yhteiskunnallisen hyvinvoinnin heikentymiseen.
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Suvaittujen itsensä kannalta suvaitsemista voidaan pitää nöyryyttävänä asenteena. Jos jotain ihmistä suvaitaan eli siedetään vastoin todellisia asenteita, se merkitsee, että suvaitsijat eivät esiinny totuudellisesti.
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J. Sakari Hankamäki, Helsinki
Filosofian tohtori
Valtiotieteiden tohtori
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 02.06.2023, 22:35:11
Protestointi tehosi :) Pride kuukausi typistyi pride päiväksi ;D
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 03.06.2023, 00:03:44
Quote from: qwerty on 02.06.2023, 22:35:11
Protestointi tehosi :) Pride kuukausi typistyi pride päiväksi ;D
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Pridestä ja LGBTQ jutuista on tulossa myrkkyä korporaatiolle.

Jonkin aikaa sitten Anheuser-Busch juomavalmistaja kärsi massiiviset tappiot kun ottivat transvestiitin Dylan Mulvaney mainoskasvokseen. Erityisesti AB:n Bud Light olut on jäänyt hyllyihin ja myynti on laskenut boikottien takia. Tällä hetkellä Bud Light on lähes ilmaista ( https://www.newsweek.com/bud-light-beer-sells-14-cents-company-struggles-during-boycott-1803152 ).

Viime päivinä Amerikkalainen Target sekatavaraketju on päätynyt konservatiivien boikotoimaksi. Tagetin markkina-arvo romahti peräti 14% boikottien takia (
https://nypost.com/2023/05/28/target-loses-10b-following-boycott-calls-over-lgbtq-friendly- clothing/ ).

Lasten groomaaminen vasemmistolaiseen pedofiiliagendaan drag-satutunneilla, koulujen porno-opetuskirjoilla ja muuta on jo pitkään ollut tapetilla ja ärsyttänyt amerikkalaisia vanhempia.

Target halusi olla "inklusiivinen" ja otti valikoimiinsa erinäisiä pride-, trans-, homo- ja satanistivaatteita lapsille. Tämä sai kupin menemään nurin ja jengi alkoi boikotoimaan Targetia samalla lailla kun Bud Lightia.

Nämä kaksi näyttävää tapausta on säikäyttänyt suuret korporaatiot koska kukaan ei halua päätyä uudeksi Bud Lightiksi. Pridellä ei siis enää haluta ottaa riskejä tekemällä suurta numeroa ja vetää huomion itseensä. Arvelisin tämän perusteella, että moni korporaatio tekee ihan minimin pitääkseen pedofiilivasemmiston tyytyväisenä samalla kun yritetään välttää amerikkalaisten kuluttajien boikotteihin päätymistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 03.06.2023, 00:39:27
Suomessakin on kaikenlaiseen prideen liittyvästä tehty valtakunnan uutiskynnyksen ylittävä ilmiö. Hyvinä tuttuina on kaksi pariskuntaa,,, kaksi miestä keskenään ja naispari. Ei kummallakaan yhdessä parisuhteessa elävistä ihmisistä ole tarvetta heilutella mitään lippua, tai marssia jonkun pervoporukan kera.
Esim. Lieksassa on sanottu väärin. https://yle.fi/a/74-20034986
QuoteLieksan seurakunta vastaa pride-kohuun – järjestää kaupungin historian ensimmäisen sateenkaarimessun
Perussuomalaisten kaupunginvaltuutettu vertasi viime maanantaina pride-aatetta muun muassa pedofiliaan ja eläimiin sekaantumiseen. Seurakunta haluaa osoittaa tukensa sateenkaariväkeä kohtaan.
En tiedä onko kyseessä säälin kerjääminen tai joku muu tärkeä asia..tietenkään ei mitään lippuja ei pidä mennä tuhoamaan, mutta....hirveä härdelli, vain pride lippujen osalta.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/6f773e0a-a4ed-4b4d-8c5c-0ee4f3a4e273
QuoteSateenkaarilippuja on tuhottu tai revitty alas tänä keväänä myös esimerkiksi Porissa ja Joensuussa. Myös aiempina vuosina lippuihin on kohdistettu ilkivaltaa.
Suomen lipulla ei ole mitään väliä, jos joku sotkee jalkoihinsa Suomen lipun, niin yksikään uutistoimija ei tee siitä mitään lööppiä,,onkohan kohta lipputangoissa ..ylhäällä pridelippu ja hieman alempana se siniristi.
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000009630742.html
QuotePride-raivo roihahti Joensuussa – lippuja varastettiin, työn­tekijää tönittiin
QuoteTyhjennetyt salot on tarkoitus täyttää jälleen pride-lipuilla, kunhan uudet saapuvat.
Ihan ok. Mutta edelleenkin ihmettelen outoa pride-hypetystä.

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Post by: Viljami on 03.06.2023, 07:44:41
Nämä loistavat boikotit ovat saaneet minut ajattelemaan, että näitä pride-pervoja ei sitten ilmeisesti oikeasti olekaan kovin lukuisasti. Osaavat äärivasemmiston tapaan pitää hemmetinmoista älämölöä kyllä. Eikä heillä taida niitä tukijoitakaan niin paljon olla. Gilletten, Bud Lightin ja Targetin miljarditappiot kertovat siitä karua, mutta oikeudenmukaista kieltään. Ja jos porukkaa onkin, niin rahaa heillä ei ole  ;D
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Post by: P on 03.06.2023, 11:40:43
Sama Suomen silakoiden kanssa. Kova on ollut älämölö, mutta oikeasti olisiko niiden boikoteista mihinkään? Epäilen, että ei.
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Post by: P on 03.06.2023, 11:47:25
Quote from: simppali on 03.06.2023, 00:39:27
Suomessakin on kaikenlaiseen prideen liittyvästä tehty valtakunnan uutiskynnyksen ylittävä ilmiö. Hyvinä tuttuina on kaksi pariskuntaa,,, kaksi miestä keskenään ja naispari. Ei kummallakaan yhdessä parisuhteessa elävistä ihmisistä ole tarvetta heilutella mitään lippua, tai marssia jonkun pervoporukan kera.

Ja koko Pride ja Seta on kaapattu muunkin vihervasemmistolaisen politiikan ajamiseen alkuperäisen tarkoituksen rinnalla. Tuntemani homot ovat aika oikeistolaisia poliittisilta näkemyksiltään. Eivät vaikuta innokkailta tuon porukan hommiin heiluttamaan heidän lippuaan, juuri tuon poliittisen kytkennän kautta vihervasemmistoon, joka vahvistui Kokoomuksen ja Kepun saaman poliittisen porttikiellon myötä.

Ei se seksuaalinen suuntautuminen kulje käsikädessä poliittisten näkemysten kanssa. Nyt Pridesta ja Setasta on tehty vihervasemmiston poliittinen apulainen ja etäpesäke.

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Post by: Dangr on 03.06.2023, 12:33:08
 :)
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Post by: Circus Hypno on 03.06.2023, 19:24:00
Pienen merenneidon live-action-versiostahan seurasi kuulemma kauheata rasismikommentointia, kun musta näyttelijä palkattiin Arieliksi.

No, sukupuolivähemmistöt ovat tulleet mesoamaan perässä: heidän mukaansa Ursulan maskeeraaja oli vääränlainen.  :roll:

https://pagesix.com/2023/05/28/melissa-mccarthys-little-mermaid-makeup-artist-slams-backlash/

QuoteMelissa McCarthy's 'Little Mermaid' makeup artist slams 'ridiculous' backlash
By Riley CardozaMay 28, 2023 | 4:36pm


Many "RuPaul's Drag Race" alums have slammed "The Little Mermaid" remake for not hiring a queer makeup artist for Ursula — prompting Peter King to defend his work on movie star Melissa McCarthy.

The Oscar winner called recent backlash "ridiculous" and "very offensive" while speaking to Insider Friday.

"Why can't I do as good a job as a queer makeup artist?" he asked the outlet.

"That's trying to claim it and that's fine, if that's what they wanna do, but don't put people down because they're not what they want it to be," King continued.


..

In the original Disney movie, which came out in 1989, Ursula was notably modeled after drag legend Divine.

..
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.06.2023, 00:42:32
Mr. Wonderful on Target's and Budwiser's EPIC Woke Corporate IMPLOSION
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4APbqBA3xyM

Yritysten ei kannata sekaantua aborttiin, politiikkaan tai sukupuoli-identiteettiin.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.06.2023, 18:57:02
Priden tukijat.
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Post by: Arvoton on 11.06.2023, 23:58:12
Vänkästi englannin kieliseltä sivulta puuttuu S-ryhmä ja joitakin muita. Ei ole Pride-yhteisöllä riittänyt rahaa palkata sivuston päivittäjää?
https://pride.fi/en/get-involved/partnerships/
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Post by: ikuturso on 12.06.2023, 07:46:07
Ja siellä on edelleen - hyvin pienellä logolla tosin - evankelisluterilainen kirkko.

Kyseessähän on helsingin erittäin sateenkaarimyönteinen seurakuntayhtymä, joka päätti edustaa koko kirkkoa pridessä. Mielestäni tuosta nousi hienoinen haloo, mutta se vaimeni nopeasti. Muutama varsin merkittävä henkilö erosi kirkosta tuon seurauksena.

Tuollainenhan on silkkaa vittuilua nuivia heteroita kohtaan. Jos vain saadaan kirje, että "joo kivoja ootte, saatte kävellä meidän kaupan edestä", niin logoa kehiin. ainakin kategoriaan ö, jotta joku perunanenä menettää yöunensa, kun lempikalsariliike onkin homokauppa.

Ja alko ja kela. Miten täysin valtio-omisteinen virasto Kela voi tukea prideä? Kan-San-E-Lä-Ke-Lai-Tos, joka on muuttunut joksikin virvelin Kelaksi. Kuin oikeaan vieheeseen tarttuu, niin siimaa tulee kun vaan vetää....

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 12.06.2023, 22:57:39
Lesbot ovat menneisyyttä. Ei-miehet ovat nykyisyyttä.
[tweet]1668282365284691969[/tweet]
Ei ole feikki. Löytyy JHU:n sivuilta (https://studentaffairs.jhu.edu/lgbtq/education/glossary/).
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Post by: Pallopääkissa on 14.06.2023, 04:24:10
USA:n tapahtumista kertova America Uncovered-kanava:

Are Moms the New KKK?
https://youtu.be/evaGwsgjZv8
QuoteThe group Moms For Liberty has been labeled an extremist group by the South Poverty Law Center (SPLC), and put on a map along with organizations like the KKK. But does that mean moms are the new KKK? In this episode of America Uncovered, we look at what Moms For Liberty advocates for, the history of the South Poverty Law Center's hate map, and controversy surrounding Moms For Liberty.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 19.06.2023, 07:20:43
Stockholm's Deputy Mayor Dresses In Drag to Host Drag Queen Story Hour
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-06-17/stockholms-deputy-mayor-dresses-drag-host-drag-queen-story-hour

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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 19.06.2023, 07:22:50
Drag queen says kids should never be allowed at shows 3:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7Yr0I0JjtI

Drag Queen Kitty Demure blasts drag queen performances in front of children and criticizes parents who bring them on 'Jesse Watters Primetime.'
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Post by: Valli on 19.06.2023, 22:28:05
Ei mennyt Pixarin leffa aivan putkeen. Kauankohan nämä yhtiöt jaksavat hakata päätään seinään.

[tweet]1670402346088796162[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 21.06.2023, 12:32:35
Alla on linkki kahden professorin (Jerry Coyne ja Luana Majora) kirjoittamaan artikkeliin siitä, kuinka biologisessakin tutkimuksessa woke-ideologia haittaa objektiivista tiedonhankintaa ja tieteen yleistä vapautta. 

https://skepticalinquirer.org/2023/06/the-ideological-subversion-of-biology/

Loppupäätelmiä:

QuoteAll the biological misconceptions we've discussed involve forcing preconceived beliefs onto nature. This inverts an old fallacy into a new one, which we call the reverse appeal to nature. Instead of assuming that what is natural must be good, this fallacy holds that "what is good must be natural." It demands that you must see the natural world through lenses prescribed by your ideology.

QuoteBut the greatest danger is not to the layperson's understanding of science but to science itself. The guiding principle of science—and of academic freedom, on which science depends—is freedom of inquiry. Those who place whole fields of investigation off limits, or distort scientific truth for political reasons, not only violate this freedom but deprive us of the intellectual and practical benefits that could come from pure, untrammeled research.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.06.2023, 11:14:38
Melko selkeä viesti.
[tweet]1672485796627230720[/tweet]

QuoteDrag queens and trans activists chant "we're here, we're queer, we're coming for your children."
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Post by: Dangr on 25.06.2023, 12:23:14
 :)
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Post by: Betonikostaja on 25.06.2023, 12:46:56
Quote from: Dangr on 25.06.2023, 12:23:14
No nyt saatiin hesariin kuva jossa on valkoinen mies ja musta nainen-pari.

Ja otsikkona: "Tyttöystäväni vaikutti erittäin pettyneeltä"- lukijat kertovat ensimmäisistä seksikokemuksistaan, joista osa vaikutti seksielämään pitkään


https://www.hs.fi/perhe/art-2000009445776.html

Ne ei jätä pienintäkään paikkaa käyttämättä kun pitää piikitellä oikeaa vähemmistöä.
Kaikkea ohjaava ajatushan tuossa on mielisairautta muistuttava viha valkoista heteromiestä kohtaan.

Kyllä noita valkoinen mies - musta nainen -pareja näkee välillä ainakin täällä Helsingissä. Ei vielä kovin usein, mutta ovat yleistyneet silmämääräisesti katsoen. Ja varmaan tulevat yleistymään. Itselleni se on ihan jees, kertoo miesten valinnanvapaudesta.

Suvakkipiireissähän suvaitsevaisuus loppuu juuri siihen, kun valkoinen heteromies valitsee itselleen muun kuin suomalaisen naisen. Etenkin suvakkinaiset ovat hyvin vihamielisiä ja katkeria. Tuota oksennusta ovat saaneet niskaansa etenkin aasialaiset ja itäeurooppalaiset naiset. Siinä ei paljon rasismia mietitä, kun huoritellaan.

Terveiset suvakkinaisille: muistakaa nyt, että ihailemanne ja rakastamanne monikulttuuri tarkoittaa sitäkin, että miehillekin löytyy ulkomaalaislähtöisiä naisia. Tätä ette varmaan muistaneet ottaa huomioon.

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Post by: Dangr on 25.06.2023, 15:07:21
 :)
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Post by: Emo on 25.06.2023, 15:13:31
^^^ Kuvan mies ei ole valkoinen vaan keltainen, katsokaa ihoa ja katsokaa hiusten ja kulmakarvojen väriä.
Mikä siinä Hesarin paskajutussa aiheutti pettymyksen? Oliko ehkä taas koosta vinkumista vai mitä?
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Post by: Viimeinen linja on 25.06.2023, 15:25:08
Quote from: Emo on 25.06.2023, 15:13:31
^^^ Kuvan mies ei ole valkoinen vaan keltainen, katsokaa ihoa ja katsokaa hiusten ja kulmakarvojen väriä.
Mikä siinä Hesarin paskajutussa aiheutti pettymyksen? Oliko ehkä taas koosta vinkumista vai mitä?

Vanha juttu mutta joskus on kysytty että onko miehellä aina pieni, mitäs jos naisella onkin iso.
Miksi se menee aina niin jos on epäsuhtaa laitteissa niin se on miehen ominaisuus?
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Post by: ikuturso on 25.06.2023, 19:28:30
Quote from: Viimeinen linja on 25.06.2023, 15:25:08
Vanha juttu mutta joskus on kysytty että onko miehellä aina pieni, mitäs jos naisella onkin iso.
Miksi se menee aina niin jos on epäsuhtaa laitteissa niin se on miehen ominaisuus?

Olen kuullut urbaanilegendan, eli siis keksityn vitsin avioero-oikeudenkäynnistä. Nainen oli ottanut uuden miehen ja siitä huolimatta pääsi pesän jaossa vielä hyvin osingoille. Pettynyt mies istui oikeuskammarissa, kun nainen käveli ohitse ja heilutteli pikkusormen päätään ja sanoi:
"pili pili pili piliiiiii"

Mies avasi suunsa ammoilleen ja pyöritti sormea suussaan ja sanoi:
"HOLO HOLO HOLO HOLOOO"

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 29.06.2023, 19:14:29
SCOTUS löi wokea nuijalla päähän.
[tweet]1674425807505350657[/tweet]
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Post by: Skeptikko on 30.06.2023, 10:52:10
Quote from: Totti on 16.04.2023, 20:07:00
Amerikkalainen kaljavalmistaja Anheuser-Busch, joka mm. valmistaa Budweiser oluita päätti markkinoida litkuaan "transhenkilö" Dylan Mulvaneyn kanssa. Mulvaney on oikeasti mies, joka meikkaa itsensä naiseksi ja kertoo olevansa nainen.

Woke mainoskampanjasta on kuitenkin tullut megafiasko: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bar-owner-says-customers-have-stopped-ordering-bud-light-after-trangender-ad-campaign

Nyt trans-kaljan toimitusjohtaja rukoilee ihmisiä palaamaan asiakkaiksi:

Bud Light boycotters should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says
https://fortune.com/2023/06/29/bud-light-anheuser-busch-ceo-brendan-whitworth-employees-boycott/
Quote
Brendan Whitworth wants Bud Light boycotters to blame him for the fateful Dylan Mulvaney promotion and not punish the 65,000 people whose livelihoods depend on Anheuser-Busch.

Speaking to CBS on Wednesday, the former U.S. Marine and CIA spy turned CEO of America's largest beer brewer said the buck stopped with him when it came to the disastrous promotion with transgender influencer Mulvaney.
...
"It's the impact honestly on the employees that weighs the most on me," he continued, urging people to drink Bud Light during the upcoming July Fourth weekend.

While Anheuser-Busch has sought to minimize the role Mulvaney played in its strategy, Whitworth reaffirmed the company would not change its stance toward its partnerships.
...
He may have sought to shield his staff from the fallout of the promotion, but he did not explicitly apologize for partnering with Mulvaney either. A number of consumers had claimed this official acknowledgment of a mistake was a prerequisite for winning back their business.
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Post by: ikuturso on 30.06.2023, 11:02:46
Quote from: Skeptikko on 30.06.2023, 10:52:10
Nyt trans-kaljan toimitusjohtaja rukoilee ihmisiä palaamaan asiakkaiksi:

Bud Light boycotters should think about employees, Anheuser-Busch CEO Brendan Whitworth says
https://fortune.com/2023/06/29/bud-light-anheuser-busch-ceo-brendan-whitworth-employees-boycott/
Quote
Brendan Whitworth wants Bud Light boycotters to blame him for the fateful Dylan Mulvaney promotion and not punish the 65,000 people whose livelihoods depend on Anheuser-Busch.

Speaking to CBS on Wednesday, the former U.S. Marine and CIA spy turned CEO of America's largest beer brewer said the buck stopped with him when it came to the disastrous promotion with transgender influencer Mulvaney.
...
"It's the impact honestly on the employees that weighs the most on me," he continued, urging people to drink Bud Light during the upcoming July Fourth weekend.

While Anheuser-Busch has sought to minimize the role Mulvaney played in its strategy, Whitworth reaffirmed the company would not change its stance toward its partnerships.
...
He may have sought to shield his staff from the fallout of the promotion, but he did not explicitly apologize for partnering with Mulvaney either. A number of consumers had claimed this official acknowledgment of a mistake was a prerequisite for winning back their business.

Eihän vasemmisto tainnut Suomessa kovin paljon sääliä Kärkkäisen tavarataloketjun työntekijöitä, kun lähtivät ajamaan boikotteja tavarataloketjua kohtaan ja painostamaan tavarantoimittajia lopettamaan yhteistyön.

Mutta en ole ryhtynyt boikotoimaan Fiskarsia, vaikka pitäisi. Ajattelen minäkin Suomen vanhimman yrityksen työntekijöitä Puolassa, Sloveniassa, Indonesiassa....
Wikipedia:
QuoteKonsernilla on 11 omaa tuotantolaitosta, jotka sijaitsevat Suomen lisäksi Indonesiassa, Irlannissa, Isossa-Britanniassa, Puolassa, Sloveniassa, Tanskassa, Thaimaassa ja Yhdysvalloissa.
Tai sitten ne tekee vaan riittävän hyviä puutarhatyökaluja.

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Post by: lurkkeri on 30.06.2023, 12:21:21
Mielestäni tätä liikeyritysten politikointia pitäisi rajoittaa lailla. Ajatus ei ole omani, näin jossain "ulkomaisessa lähteessä" seuraavanlaisen idean:

Yhteiskuntahan antaa liikeyritykselle juridisen henkilön statuksen ja yrityksen omistajille "limited liability" oikeudet, eli omistajat vastaavat yrityksen veloista ja muista vastuista vain osakepääoman verran. Tämän vastineeksi yhteiskunta voisi vaatia yritysten pitävän näppinsä erossa politiikasta ja keskittyvän vain liiketoimintaansa. Jos tätä yhteiskunnan ja yrityksen välistä "sopimusta" rikotaan, voitaisiin poistaa yritykseltä juridisen henkilön status ja omistajilta ja johdolta rajoitettu vastuu.

Miltä kuulostaisi?

Tämä viesti sopisi myös tuonne Brexit-ketjuun, jossa kerrotaan kuinka pankit kiusaavat yksityisiä ihmisiä heidän poliittisten kantojensa takia.
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Post by: paukuttaja on 30.06.2023, 12:28:13
Quote from: lurkkeri on 30.06.2023, 12:21:21

Miltä kuulostaisi?


Kuulostaa hyvältä.  Mutta ei politikoinnin puolesta vaan yrityksen vastuun osakkeenomistajilleen puolesta. Yrityksen johdon osakkeenomistajille aiheuttaman vahingon rankomista haen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: tommeli on 03.07.2023, 11:49:47
"Suomen kansallismuseo etsii kulttuurisesti moninaisia suomalaisia, rodullistettuja suomalaisia ja mixed-suomalaisia haastateltavia identiteettejä käsittelevään nykydokumentointiin":
https://www.kansallismuseo.fi/fi/ajankohtaista/suomen-kansallismuseo-etsii-kulttuurisesti-moninaisia-suomalaisia-rodullistettuja-suomalaisia-ja-mixed-suomalaisia-haastateltavia-identiteetteja-kasittelevaan-nykydokumentointiin

Eli jos sinua on sen takia rodullistettu että olet "paha valkoinen" niin vastaamaan vaan.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.07.2023, 18:35:24
Kukapa ei haluaisi itselleen aivokirurgiksi mahdollisimman huonoilla pisteillä opiskelemaan päässyttä, sponsoroitua kiintiötyhmää?

[tweet]1675580130452815878[/tweet]

QuoteTweet |Rikki Schlott |@RIKKISCHLOTT
Because everyone wants their brain surgeon to be as disadvantaged as possible.

The New York Times | @nytimes | Jul 2

To build a diverse class of students, the medical school at UC Davis ranks applicants by the disadvantages they have faced.

The disadvantage scale helped turn UC Davis into one of the most diverse medical schools in the U.S. Can it work nationally? https://nyti.ms/3pv6rRo

QuoteWith End of Affirmative Action, a Push for a New Tool: Adversity Scores

To build a diverse class of students, the medical school at U.C. Davis ranks applicants by the disadvantages they have faced. Can it work nationally?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.07.2023, 21:48:33
Quote from: https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/maailmankuulu-woke-parodiahahmo-titania-mcgrath-suomiareenassa-kulttuurisota-on-kielellinen-kamppailu-kyse-siita-kuka-maarittelee-sanojen-merkityksen-ja-sen-miten-hahmotamme-todellisuutta/heinäkuu 04, 2023 14:07
..."Kulttuurisota on kielellinen kamppailu – kyse siitä, kuka määrittelee sanojen merkityksen ja sen, miten hahmotamme todellisuutta"
...
Kirjassaan Doyle [The New Puritans – How the Religion of Social Justice Captured the Western World] vertaa woke-ideologiaa kuuluisiin Salemin noitavainoihin, jotka tapahtuivat Englannista Amerikkaan muuttaneiden puritaanien keskuudessa. Vuonna 1692 Salemin kaupungissa nuoret, 9-17 -vuotiaat tytöt alkoivat saada selittämättömiä, kaatumataudin kaltaisia kohtauksia, joista he syyttivät kylässä asuvia "noitia".

Joukkohysteria sai valtavat mittasuhteet. Yhtäkkiä noitia nähtiin kaikkialla. Yhä useammat teinitytöt kokivat joutuneensa noituuden uhreiksi. Yli kaksi sataa ihmistä joutui oikeuden eteen noituudesta syytettyinä, ja parikymmentä teloitettiin. Lisäksi viisi noituudesta epäiltyä kuoli vankilassa.

Doylen mielestä "eletty kokemus" on woke-ideologian ydinkohtia. Jos joku "kokee" olevansa noituuden tai rasismin tai syrjinnän uhri, tätä kokemusta ei saa kyseenalaistaa. Salemin noitavainot eivät johtuneet siitä, että pikkutytöt alkoivat yhtäkkiä kirkua ja osoitella "noitia" sormellaan, vaan siitä, että vallanpitäjät lähtivät mukaan teinityttöjen harhoihin ja käynnistivät noitaoikeudenkäynnit.

...

Doylelle woke-ideologia edustaa totalitarismia liberalismin nimissä: sensuuria, uuskielisyyttä, ryhmäidentiteettejä ja sortaja/uhri-valtarakenteita. Wokettajille oma, subjektiivinen kokemus on kaiken mittapuu. He ovat äänekäs vähemmistö, jonka edessä vallanpitäjät alistuvat.

– Jos he kokevat, että sinä olet "natsi" tai "TERF" tai jotain muuta niistä lukuisista sanoista, jotka periaatteessa tarkoittavat vain "noitaa" tai "vääräoppista", niin pelkkä syytös riittää. Todisteita ei tarvitse esittää, Doyle sanoo.
...

Doyle on huolissaan siitä, että sanat menettävät merkityksensä. Jos natseja, rasisteja, homofobeja ja seksistejä aletaan nähdä joka puolella, vaikka se ei olisikaan totta, kyseiset termit kärsivät inflaation.

– Kun minä näen, että jotakuta haukutaan netissä rasistiksi tai natsiksi, minä oletan automaattisesti, että se ei ole totta, koska 99 prosentissa tapauksista syytös ei ole totta.

– Kulttuurisota on pitkälti kielellinen kamppailu. Kyse on siitä, kuka pääsee määrittelemään sanojen merkityksen ja sen, miten me hahmotamme todellisuutta, Doyle sanoo.

...

Woke-ideologia tarjoaa "edistyksellisille" ihmisille tekosyyn toimia kuten Titania ja laukoa ylimielisiä "totuuksiaan" hyvyyden kaapuun verhoutuneena, Doyle sanoo. Ideologiansa siivittämänä ihminen kokee olevansa "hyvä ihminen" ja "historian oikealla puolella", vaikka tekisi asioita, jotka ovat pahoja, vääriä tai jopa sadistisia. Lähes kaikki maailman diktaattorit ovat kokeneet olevansa "enkelien puolella".

...

Monikulttuurisuusideologia ei toimi, sillä samassa yhteiskunnassa ei voi olla eri sääntöjä eri ryhmille.

...

Woke-ideologia perustuu intersektionaaliseen "uhrihierarkiaan" ja ihmisten jakamiseen eri ryhmiin. Ihmistä kohdellaan ryhmän jäsenenä, ei yksilönä. Pitkälle vietynä tämä johtaa rotuerotteluun ja segregaatioon.

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Pride-ideologia keskittyy intersektionaalisuuden hengessä luomaan yhä uusia ryhmäidentiteettejä, joiden kaikkien on saatava oma juovansa sateenkaarilippuun. Jotkut näistä uusista ryhmistä – kuten transaktivistit – vaativat erittäin äänekkäästi ja aggressiivisesti "oikeuksiaan", kuten oikeutta päästä naisten pukuhuoneisiin.

Jos perinteiset lesbot ja homot uskaltavat olla eri mieltä siitä, voiko naisella olla pippeli, transaktivistit kutsuvat heitä "transfobeiksi". Doylen mielestä tämä on vahingollista aidosti transseksuaalisten ihmisten asialle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Hohtis on 06.07.2023, 17:16:48
Huomaatko, mitä mätää tässä sairaanhoitajien kuvassa on? Tekoälyn taustalta paljastui ongelma, joka vaikuttaa monien elämään (https://www.is.fi/menaiset/ilmiot/art-2000009644879.html)

Juttuun olennaisesti liittyvä kuva liitteenä, ettei tarvitse klikkihuorailla Ilta-Sanomia.

QuoteSuuria riskejä liittyy siihen, että teknologiaa pidetään objektiivisena ja arvoneutraalina, vaikka se ei sitä oikeasti ole. Nyt jo huomataan, että suuriin datamassoihin perustuvat tekoäly-ohjelmistot eivät kohtele ihmisiä tasa-arvoisesti.
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Otetaan esimerkki: kun tekoälyyn pohjautuvan Midjourney-kuvanmallinnusohjelman pyytää luomaan kuvan mietteliäistä journalisteista, ohjelma luo ihan kivalta näyttävän piirroskuvan. Kuvassa vain on sellainen ongelma, että siinä on 16 valkoihoista miestä. Kun ohjelmaan syöttää saman lausekkeen, mutta korvaa sanan journalisti sanalla "sairaanhoitaja", kuvassa on pelkästään naisia.

Virheet eivät kerro yksittäisen koodaajan asenteista, vaan ne johtuvat ohjelman käyttämästä datasta. Kun naiset tilastollisesti ovat edelleen vähemmistönä jossain ammatissa, ohjelmakaan ei osaa luoda kuviin naisia.
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Sukupuolittuneisuus on vain yksi datan tasa-arvo ongelmista.

Riikka Koulun mukaan Yhdysvalloista on tiedossa esimerkkejä, joissa rekrytoinnin apuna käytetty tekoälyohjelma on automaattisesti syrjäyttänyt hakijoita, joiden nimi viittaa tietynlaiseen etniseen taustaan.

– Yksi ongelma on siinä, että tekoälyjärjestelmät tekevät valintoja menneen tiedon pohjalta. Ja koska data ei ole ikinä neutraalia tai tasa-arvoista, pahimmillaan järjestelmä tuottaa samanlaista epätasa-arvoista maailmaa, joka meillä on aina ollut, Koulu selittää.


Eli tekoäly on sukupuolittunut, naisia syrjivä, rasistinen ja muutenkin ongelmallinen, koska se kuvaa sellaista maailmaa joka on todellinen, ei sellaista joksi intersektionaaliset feministit ja muut wokesta sekaisin olevat suharit haluaisivat sen muuttuvan.

Mitä vikaa siinä on, että tekoäly kuvaa todennäköisyyksiä? Jos sen käsketään piirtää neljä apilaa, niin pitääkö yhden niistä olla nelilehtinen? Tai neljästä lampaasta yhden musta? Tai kymmenestä rotasta yhden albiino? Miksi anomalia pitäisi olla mukana, jos kuvataan muutamaa tyypillistä viiteryhmänsä edustajaa?

Eiköhän ChatGPT:hen koodata piakkoin lisäosa, jossa pojallakin voi olla pimppi.  :facepalm:

Tosin tuossa käskettiin tekoälyn luoda kuvan "mietteliäistä journalisteista", (*toimittaja, lehtimies) joka tuotti kuvan jossa oli pelkästään miehiä. Kuten tiedämme esimerkiksi viime päivien persuvihamielisen uutisoinnin perusteella, myös naisia on toimittajina. Ehkäpä tekoälylle olisi pitänyt käskeä luomaan kuva hysteerisistä ja tunteidensa vallassa omia mielipiteitään kirjoittelevista toimittelijoista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.07.2023, 17:27:32
Nyt olisi tilausta sinisen pillerin woke-ai:lle, joka simuloi turvatilan todellisuudesta irtaantuneille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: F1nka on 07.07.2023, 18:35:08
Elokuvateattereissa Amerikassa pyörivä Sound of Freedom on menestynyt loistavasti kriitikoiden yllätykseksi. Elokuva käsittelee lapsikauppaa, mutta käsittelytapa antaa hieman toivoa ja uskoa sillä tarina keskittyy lasten löytämiseen ja pelastamiseen. Selailin hieman, mitä elokuvasta on kirjoitettu ja hieman hätkähdin Guardianin kritiikkiä:
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Sound of Freedom: the QAnon-adjacent thriller seducing America
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The traffickers are anonymous foreigners, mentioned as "rebels" in an unspecified regional confict with no connection to the alleged Clinton Crime Family, though a title card at the end points back to America as a hub for the "150bn business" of exploitation. The religious dimension seldom extends beyond a god-fearing undertone, most perceptible in archetypes like the reformed sinner on the righteous path. (Character actor supreme Bill Camp classes up the joint as "Vampiro", a former narco who gave up his profligate lifestyle after fornicating with a 14-year-old while in cocaine haze.) The trafficing follows no motivation more elaborate than the serivcing of tich predators, eliding all talk of body-part black marketts and the precious organic biochemical of adrenochrome harvested as a Satanic key to eternal life. The first rule of QAnon: you don't talk about QAnon where the normals can hear you.

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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jul/06/sound-of-freedom-movie-qanon-jim-caviezel (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jul/06/sound-of-freedom-movie-qanon-jim-caviezel)

Siis Guardian syyttää toimintaelokuvaa, ettei se tarpeeksi kattavasti käsittele lasten hyväksikäyttäjien motivaatioita ja toimintalogiikkoja. Jotenkin hiipii mieleen, että kalikka on jossain osunut.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 09.07.2023, 01:27:49
Odotellaan että suomalaiset toimittajat uutisoivat asiasta..


Hollywood Elite PANIC as Movie EXPOSING Sex Trade SKYROCKETS!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY3fFqda6_A


'Sound of Freedom' Tops Box Office on Fourth of July Opening Day

https://www.theepochtimes.com/sound-of-freedom-tops-box-office-on-fourth-of-july-opening-day_5377383.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=gab
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 09.07.2023, 21:12:07
Ylen pääuutisissa tänään kiinnitin huomiota "uutisiin" roudatusta jenkkiprofessorista, joka kuulemma tutki tarinoiden vaikutusta lukijoihin. Sanoma mitä hän lasketteli oli sitä peruskauraa, mitä melkein jokainen lukiossa suomenkielenainetta kirjoittava oppilas kirjoittaisi saatuaan aiheeksi, jotta "Miten tarinat ja kirjallisuus vaikuttavat lukijoihin?" Jotta missä uutinen?

Professorin kontribuutio oli muutenkin varsin tyhjänpäiväinen. Kiinnostuin kuitenkin siitä, jotta mikäs professori tämä tällainen Marek Oziewicz onkaan.

Tietoa löytyi helposti (https://www.cehd.umn.edu/ci/people/mco/).

QuoteMarek Oziewicz

Pronouns: he, him, his


Marek Oziewicz
Professor, Literacy Education
Sidney and Marguerite Henry Professor of Children's and Young Adult Literature
Director, Center for Climate Literacy

Areas of interest

I study the transformative power of literature for the young reader. Within children's literature, my foci include speculative fiction, especially fantasy; global and multicultural books; and literature-based cognitive modeling for moral imagination, global citizenship, environmental awareness, and justice literacy.

Vaikka kyse oli jonninjoutavasta pulinasta, niin heräsi kuitenkin kysymys, että miksi järestään kaikki YLE:n haastattelemat "tiedemiehet" ja "asiantuntijat" ovat sieltä vasemmalta äärilaidalta, ja edustavat multikulturalismia, ilmastoalarmismia, wokea ja muuta nykypäivän vasemmistohumppaa, aina poikien pimpsajuttuja myöten?
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Post by: Totti on 09.07.2023, 22:01:24
Quote from: akez on 09.07.2023, 21:12:07
heräsi kuitenkin kysymys, että miksi järestään kaikki YLE:n haastattelemat "tiedemiehet" ja "asiantuntijat" ovat sieltä vasemmalta äärilaidalta

Tiedät varmaankin jo vastauksen mutta sanon silti.

Vasemmistolainen politiikka ei seiso omilla jaloillaan. Heidän jutut ovat yksinkertaisesti niin paskoja ettei kukaan usko niihin sellaisenaan. Kyse ei ole vain siitä, että heillä on huonot ideat vaan vasemmisto tyrkyttää täysin järjenvastaisia teemoja kuten juuri poikapimppoja jne.

Jotta typerät ideat voisi toteuttaa poliittisesti pitää kuitenkin saada tietty kannatus niiden taakse eikä siihen riitä vasemmiston harhaisten peruskannattajien tuki vaan myös suuri yleisö pitää saada vakuutettua, että vasemmiston jutut eivät ole pelkkää parodiaa ja trollausta.

Menetelmät vakuuttaa ihmiset ovat:

- Toistetaan sympaattisen median kautta samoja asioita kunnes ne muuttuvat göbbelsmäisiksi "totuuksiksi".

- Luodaan uutta "tiedettä" perustuen vasemmiston todellisuuskuvaan. "Tieteeseen" viitataan faktana, jota ei voi kyseenalaistaa olematta "tiedevastainen", esimerkkinä vaikkapa kymmenet sukupuolet, rakenteellinen rasismi ja koko feministinen diskurssi.

- Vedotaan sympaattisiin akateemisiin auktoriteetteihin eli "asiantuntijoihin", jotka todistavat vasemmiston todellisuuskuvauksen olevan oikein perustuen edellä mainittuun "tieteeseen" tai "tulkitsemalla" (vääristämällä) tosiasioita.

- Luodaan erinäisiä palkintoja, joita jaetaan sympaattisille ei-auktoriteeteille tehdäkseen heistä "palkittuja" auktoriteetteja, joihin voidaan viittaa. Mm. erinäiset journalisti- ja taidepalkinnot ovat tätä varten.

- Perustetaan suuri määrä "kansalaisjärjestöjä", jotka antavat vasemmiston narratiiville ruohonjuurimaisen mielikuvan, jolla näyttäisi olevan laaja kansalaisten kannatus.

Ergo, kustaan lukijaa ja kuulijaa silmään rakentamalla kokonainen valheiden teollisuus vasemmiston narratiivin ympärille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tulituki on 09.07.2023, 23:07:03
"Toistetaan sympaattisen median kautta samoja asioita kunnes ne muuttuvat göbbelsmäisiksi "totuuksiksi"."

Göbbels ei viitannut omiin puheisiinsa puhuessaan asioiden toistamisesta kunnes ne muuttuvat totuuksiksi vaan hän viittasi erään porukan tapaan argumentoida.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 10.07.2023, 10:42:32
https://youtu.be/WI7PKWc0EEc

Tämä woke-paska on nyt uustaistolaisuutta. Tässä mielenkiintoinen kuunnelma alkuperäisestä taistolaisuudesta. Vietnamin sota oli käännekohta suomessakin, kuten myös suuressa maailmassa. Turkkilan aviisissa, ollut myös juttua, tuon äijän kirjasta.

QuoteLauri Hokkasen "Kenen joukoissa seisoin? – taistolaiset ja valtioterrorismin perintö" on omakohtainen ja kiihkoton, laajasti taustoittava esitys taistolaissukupolven harrhautumisesta Neuvostoliiton politiikan myötäilijöiksi ja edistäjiksi. 1960-70-lukujen taistolaisliikkeellä on ilmeisiä yhtymäkohtia vahvasti politisoituneeseen nykypäivään. Tiedetoimittaja, taloustieteen lisensiaatti Mai Allo avaa Hokkasen kirjaa Suomen Uutisille.


"Olen elävä esimerkki siitä, miten hyvillä aikomuksilla varustettu ihminen voi tempautua mukaan, kun olosuhteet ovat suostuisat, liikkeeseen, joka on täysin sokea todellisuudelle ja turvautuu ideologiansa ohjaamana ihmisyyden vastaisiin keinoihin. "

".... kaiken mahdollistava utopia paremmasta yhteiskunnasta on otollisella psyykkisellä rakenteella varustetuille nuorille ihmisille vahva luokseen kutsuva magneetti."

"Uskoin voimakkaasti ihmisen ja tieteen voimaan, ihmisen kykyyn torjua paha ja muuttaa maailma... mutta kävikö niin, että hylätessäni Jumalan ja valitessani ...().... marxismi-leninismin en omaksunut tieteellistä ajattelutapaa vaan uuden uskonnon?"

Edeltävät lainaukset ovat peräisin Lauri Hokkasen kirjasta "Kenen joukoissa seisoin? – taistolaiset ja valtioterrorismin perintö" (Docendo 2021).

Jo pelkästään kirjan esipuhe pysäyttää.

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/lauri-hokkasen-kenen-joukossa-seisoin-tietokirja-kuvaa-taistolaisten-sukupolvea-joka-piti-uskontoaan-tieteena-ja-joka-tuli-taysin-sokeaksi-vallitsevalla-todellisuudelle/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.07.2023, 10:48:01
Quote from: Mäyräkoira on 10.07.2023, 10:42:32
https://youtu.be/WI7PKWc0EEc

Videon esittely:

QuoteMinkälainen poliittinen liike taistolaisuus oli ja minkälainen maailmankuva taistolaisilla oli? Miksi taistolaiset ihailivat Neuvostoliittoa ja mikä erotti taistolaiset muista kommunisteista? Mikä yhteys marxismilla ja leninismillä on taistolaisuuteen?

Keitä taistolaiset pitivät vihollisinaan ja miksi taistolaiset haaveilivat vallankumouksesta? Kuinka pitkälle vallankumouksellisissa pyrkimyksissä taistolaiset olisivat olleet valmiita menemään?

Mitä vaikutuksia taistolaisuudella oli suomalaiseen yhteiskuntaan ja minkä johdosta taistolaisuuden kannatus lopulta putosi?

Studiossa kirjailija ja entinen taistolainen Lauri Hokkanen. Jakso on nauhoitettu 28.6.2023.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.07.2023, 11:01:51
Vielä vaan:

Quote from: https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/lauri-hokkasen-kenen-joukossa-seisoin-tietokirja-kuvaa-taistolaisten-sukupolvea-joka-piti-uskontoaan-tieteena-ja-joka-tuli-taysin-sokeaksi-vallitsevalla-todellisuudelle/Marraskuu 07, 2021
Lauri Hokkasen Kenen joukossa seisoin -tietokirja kuvaa taistolaisten sukupolvea, joka piti uskontoaan tieteenä, ja joka tuli täysin sokeaksi vallitsevalla todellisuudelle


Lauri Hokkasen "Kenen joukoissa seisoin? – taistolaiset ja valtioterrorismin perintö" on omakohtainen ja kiihkoton, laajasti taustoittava esitys taistolaissukupolven harrhautumisesta Neuvostoliiton politiikan myötäilijöiksi ja edistäjiksi. 1960-70-lukujen taistolaisliikkeellä on ilmeisiä yhtymäkohtia vahvasti politisoituneeseen nykypäivään. Tiedetoimittaja, taloustieteen lisensiaatti Mai Allo avaa Hokkasen kirjaa Suomen Uutisille.
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Lauri Hokkanen (s.1950) kuului niihin nuoriin, joista muodostui 1960-70 lukujen taistolaisliikkeen ydin. He olivat radikaaleja vasemmistolaisia – Hokkasen sanoin "leninistisiä kommunisteja" – jotka muokkasivat suomalaista yhteiskuntaa paljon syvemmältä ja enemmän kuin mitä heidän lukumäärästään voisi päätellä.
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...Hokkanen kysyy, miksi liike kaikkine rinnakkaisilmiöineen sai niin paljon valtaa juuri Suomessa. Tähän hän on löytänyt kaksi tärkeää syytä.

Ensinnäkin, suomalaistaistolaisia ohjattiin Neuvostoliitosta. Itänaapurin vallanpitäjillä oli aivan omat intressinsä, kun he rahoittivat, tukivat ja kouluttivat täkäläisiä vallankumouksellisia. Väitettään Hokkanen tukee valtavalla dokumenttiarsenaalilla, ja koukkaa paikoin hyvinkin kauas Suomen historiaan, aina sisällissotiin asti.
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Toiseksi, Suomessa kulttuuriväki lähti vallankumoukseen mukaan aivan poikkeuksellisella innolla. Tuskin missään muualla taiteilijat, muusikot, teatterintekijät ja kirjailijat muodostivat yhtä yhtenäistä vasemmistorintamaa kuin täällä.
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"Nuoret etsivät aina jotain, mihin liittyä, jotain itseään suurempaa, tarkoitusta elämälleen", sanoo Hokkanen. Eikä hän totea sitä tuomitakseen. Tarkoitus oli monilla varmasti hyvä, mutta "me olemme sokeita ajassa ja paikassa – se on ihmisen osa", huokaa Hokkanen.

Hokkanen muistuttaa myös kolikon toisesta puolesta: radikaali vasemmistolaisuus vaikutti palkitsemisperusteisiin, virkanimityksiin ja julkisten varojen käyttöön ...

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Kirjaa selatessa löytää useita muitakin ilmeisiä yhtäläisyyksiä tietoyhteiskunta-ajan akateemisen vasemmistolaisuuden ja vuosikymmenten takaisen taistolaisliikkeen välillä. Iskulauseet, vaatimukset, äänenpainot ja argumenttien perustelut ovat melkein samat, jos vain muutama nimi ja termi vaihdetaan.

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Neuvostomyönteistä vasemmistolaisuutta ajettiin luokkahuoneisiin Pirkkalan monisteen voimalla, ja alakoululaisiakin vietiin rauhanmarssille. Hippiliikkeestä innostuneet akateemiset sosialistit pistivät myös opetussuunnitelmia uusiksi: tasa-arvo nousi tärkeämmäksi tavoitteeksi kuin asiasisältöjen oppiminen.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 11.07.2023, 16:49:35
Mainio miehemme Simo Grönroos on kirjoittanut loistavan esittelyn erääseen kirjaan, joka selventää monia outoja nykyisiä ilmiöitä.

Bonukset kirjan loistavista kansista.  8)

QuoteKirja-arvostelut 28. kesäkuuta 2023 Simo Grönroos
Oikofobia – länsimaisen itseinhon jäljillä

Kulkeeko historia kohti edistystä vai onko se sarja kulttuurien ja kansojen nousuja ja romahduksia? Taantuvatko kulttuurit ulkoisien vai sisäisten tekijöiden paineessa? Miten oman kulttuurin inhoaminen liittyy tähän?

Ruotsalaistaustainen filosofi ja antiikintutkija Benedict Beckeld pohtii näitä kysymyksiä länsimaista itseinhoa käsittelevässä kirjassaan Western Self-Contempt: Oikophobia in the Decline of Civilizations. Hänen johtopäätöksensä on se, että tiede kyllä edistyy, mutta kulttuurit kulkevat syklisesti alkuaikojen muihin vihamielisesti suhtautuvasta ksenofobiasta loppuaikojen itseinhoon eli oikofobiaan. 

Syklinen historiankuva ei ole uusi asia, ja siitä on kirjoitettu niin 1900-luvun alun kulttuurifilosofi Oswald Spenglerin teoksissa, joissa kulttuurien nähtiin syntyvän elävän ja kuolevan kuten ihminen, kuin vaikka muinaisissa hindulaisissa kirjoituksissa, joissa historian nähtiin kulkevan kultaisen ajan Satya Yugan ja pimeän ajan Kali Yugan väliä.

Termin oikofobia (kreik. oikos = koti, fobia = pelko) on taas lanseerannut brittiläinen filosofi Roger Scruton (1944-2020), mutta kuten Beckeld osoittaa, ainakin länsimaissa omaa kulttuuria ylenkatsova itseinho on ollut jo vuosituhansien ajan yksi kulttuurien kehityksen aste – niistä se viimeinen.

Beckeldin mukaan oikofobia syntyy kulttuurin ollessa huippuvaiheessaan, jolloin kasvanut vauraus synnyttää joutilaan luokan, joka ei joudu taistelemaan olemassaolostaan ja joka alkaa lopulta sotimaan mm. tylsyyden ja pätemisen tarpeen takia omaa kulttuuriaan vastaan. Tähän liittyy kaiken omaan kulttuuriin liittyvän leimaaminen rasistiseksi ja vanhoilliseksi sekä kritiikitön suhtautuminen kaikkiin vieraisiin kulttuureihin ja valtakulttuurista poikkeavaan.

Oikofobi asettaa Beckeldin mukaan itsensä muiden yläpuolelle ja katsoo olevansa maamiehiään parempi, koska uskoo yhteen ihmisyyteen, jossa omalla kulttuurilla ei ole erityisasemaa. Esimerkiksi kasvissyönti ja itämaiset mysteeriuskonnot ovat myös olleet joutilaaseen luokkaan kuuluvien oikofobien keinoja erottaa itsensä rahvaasta.

Vaikka eliitti on Beckeldin mukaan eniten vieraantunut omasta kulttuuristaan, hän näkee oikofobian etenevän myös tavan kansan keskuudessa, kun esimerkiksi sosiaalivaltion kasvu tekee ihmiset riippuvaisiksi erilaisista tuista, mikä lievittämisen sijaan päinvastoin kasvattaa ihmisten tyytymättömyyttä yhteiskuntaa kohtaan ja luo pohjaa oikofobialle. Ulkoiset viholliset vähentävät Beckeldin mukaan oikofobista ajattelua, mutta toisaalta sodat voivat yhtä lailla myös lisätä tavallisen kansan tyytymättömyyttä ja sitä kautta oikofobiaa, jos ne saavat kansan kiinnittämään huomion siihen, mitä oikeuksia siltä puuttuu; oli kyseessä sitten Vietnamin sodan nuoret veteraanit – jotka kelpasivat sotimaan, mutta eivät voineen vielä äänestää tai ostaa olutta – tai Krimin sodassa taistelleet venäläiset maaorjat.

Beckeld nostaa myös esiin paljon oikofobisia piirteitä omanneen Ranskan vallankumouksen käynnistyneen nimenomaan reformien aloittamisen jälkeen. Tämä voi kertoa siitä, miten uudistusyritykset voivat laukaista kritiikin tulvaportit jo alkujaan väärille urille ajautuneesta yhteiskunnallisesta kehityksestä, mutta Beckeld unohtaa hyvissä ajoin tehtyjen sosiaalisten uudistusten ja demokratiakehityksen arvon, jotka voivat estää jo etukäteen yhteiskunnallisten jännitteiden syntyä.

Joka tapauksessa lopputulos oikofobian etenemisestä on Beckeldin mukaan se, että yhteiskunta hajoaa lopulta toinen toisiaan vastaan sotiviksi eturyhmiksi. Kirjoittaja lisäksi muistuttaa, että monikulttuurisuus kasvattaa oikofobiaa hajottamalla yhteiskunnan sisäistä koheesiota, mikä tietysti taas lisää oikofobiaa ja johtaa noidankehään, jossa monikulttuurisuus lisääntyy entisestään. 

Teoksessa käydään läpi esimerkkejä kulttuurien sykleistä, jotka kulkevat kunnian päivien kautta itseinhoon ja taantumiseen. Ranskalaisen kulttuurin Beckeld näkee saavuttaneen huippunsa juuri ennen suurta vallankumousta, brittiläisen viktoriaanisen ajan puolessa välissä 1800-luvun jälkipuolella ja yhdysvaltalaisen toisen maailmansodan jälkeen.

Oikofobia on yhtä lailla vaikuttanut jo antiikin ajoista lähtien, ja varhaisena esimerkkinä kirjoittaja nostaa esiin kreikkalaisen näytelmäkirjailijan Aiskhyloksen teoksen Persialaiset (472 eaa.), joka on hänen mukaansa ensimmäisiä vihollisen puolen ottaneita kirjallisia teoksia. Oikofobian tuoreempina kirjallisina edustajina Beckeld nostaa esiin ranskalaisten postmodernistien, yhdysvaltalaisten beat-kirjailijoiden ja Frankfurtin koulukunnan filosofien teokset. Hän myös painottaa valistuksen ajan ajattelijoiden ja Karl Marxin vaikutusta oikofobiseen ajatteluun. 

Enemmän historiaan keskittyneen Beckeldin esittelemän oikofobian nykyisinä manifestaatioina lukija voi taas nähdä avointen ovien maahanmuuttopolitiikan, itseruoskivan ilmastopolitiikan ja vallan kansallisvaltioilta pois työntävän globalismin. Oikofobia näkyy yhtä lailla kaiken poikkeavan pyhittävänä ja enemmistöä syyllistävänä woke-ajatteluna. ilmiö selittää myös sen, miksi faktat ja argumentit eivät tunnu usein enää toimivan poliittisen keskustelun välineinä – tietyn politiikan selittäminen yhteiskunnan kannalta turmiolliseksi ei auta, jos vastapuolen tarkoituksena on nimenomaan romuttaa yhteiskunta.

Kulttuurien taantuminen oikofobian myötä on evoluution kannalta omituinen ilmiö. Kirja ei käsittele ilmiön merkitystä evoluutiolle/kulttuurievoluutiolle, mutta lukija voi herätä pohtimaan asiaa myös siitä näkökulmasta, että onko oikofobialla kenties joku merkitys koko ihmislajille. Jos ajatellaan, että lajin säilymisen kannalta olisi edullista, että lajin sisällä on kulttuurista ja etnistä varianssia, niin ehkä ilman oikofobista kehitystä kukoistukseen noussut kulttuuripiiri jatkaisi vain kasvuaan ja jyräisi alleen lopulta koko muun maailman valtioineen ja kansoineen?

Ksenofobian ja oikofobian vaihtelua tarkastellaan teoksessa pitkälti aatehistorian ja kulttuurin näkökulmasta. Ilmiötä voidaan tarkastella myös sosiologian ja psykologian kautta, joita Beckeld ei kuitenkaan käytä analysointinsa työkaluina. Esimerkiksi yhdysvaltalaiset Theodore Roszak ja Ronald Inglehart ovat tarkastelleet teoksissaan 1960-luvulla tapahtunutta arvojen muutosta, jossa kiteytyy hyvin Beckeldin kuvaama oikofobinen kehitys. Tuolloin törmäsivät turvallisuutta ja materialistista vaurautta painottaneen sodan käyneen sukupolven ja turvallisuuden sekä talouskasvun maailmassa kasvaneiden suurten ikäluokkien arvot, joiden pohjalta syntyivät hipit, sodanvastainen liike ja opiskelijaradikalismi.

Voidaankin miettiä, ovatko kansa ja perhe tietyn kehitysvaiheen luomia selviytymiskeinoja, jotka jäävät myöhemmissä kehitysvaiheissa vaurauden ja turvallisuuden kasvaessa vähemmälle käytölle? Jos ne kuitenkin unohdetaan täysin hyvinä päivinä, ollaan pahoina päivinä pulassa, kun kansan ja perheen suojaa tarvittaisiin.

Mitä oikofobialle on sitten tehtävissä?

Uskonto on Beckeldin mukaan parhain suojavarustus oikofobiaa vastaan, mutta pohjimmiltaan sivilisaation kehitystä ei hänen mukaansa voi estää, ainoastaan hidastaa. Toisaalta Beckeld nostaa esiin Trumpin ja Brexitin olleen tavallisen kansan vastaiskuja oikofobiaa vastaan, joten historian suunta ei ole kiveen kirjoitettu.

Beckeldin mukaan vaurauden myötä perheen merkitys myös vähenee, mikä vaikuttaa suuresti oikofobian kasvuun, sillä perhe on instituutiona hänen mukaansa sivilisaation säilymisen ytimessä. Perheen arvostus ja perhepolitiikka voivat siis olla avainasemassa myös oikofobian vastaisessa taistelussa.

Beckeld nostaa esiin sen, että kulttuurin kehitysvaiheita ei voi arvottaa keskenään. Kulttuurin brutaali ksenofobinen varhaisvaihe ei ole hänen mukaansa välttämättä sen miellyttävämpi aika elää kuin loppuvaiheen feminiininen oikofobia. Onkin tuhannen taalan kysymys, miten heiluriliike voitaisiin pysäyttää ja löytää kultainen keskitie, jossa omasta kulttuurista pidetään kiinni ilman sotaisaa vihamielisyyttä muita kohtaan ja muita kulttuureita pystytään kunnioittamaan ilman oman kulttuurin halveksimista?



Simo Grönroos



Benedict Beckeld: Western Self-Contempt – Oikophobia in the Decline of Civilizations

Northern Illinois University Press, Ithaca & London 2022.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.07.2023, 10:16:35
Pikku lipsahdus. Kamala voisi aloittaa itsestään.

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QuoteKamala just said that "reducing population" is a goal of the climate change movement

They aren't hiding it anymore

YOU are the carbon they want to eliminate

True evil
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.07.2023, 21:18:47
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QuoteScott Adams | @ScottAdamsSays

Peer pressure update:

Political Right: Clean your room, go to the gym, develop skills, find a good mate, have children.

Political Left: You might be the wrong gender.

Different

Comments:
- Political left: we want your children
-  Missing on the left, is envy of other people's wealth.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 17.07.2023, 19:33:01
Tietokirja josta olisi hienoa saada käännös. Toivottavasi Kiuas on ajan hermolla :)
Kova saavutus nousta ykköseksi. Ei vain tietokirjoista vaan aivan kaikista 8)
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Vaikuttaa harhaoppiselta. Hieman epäilen tuleeko ikinä löytymään esim. Oodista :P
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.07.2023, 18:26:03
Quote from: https://twitter.com/MatiasTurkkila/status/1681604785999425536
Matias Turkkila | @MatiasTurkkila

Wanhan Suomen kielimalli:
- Jos osaat hyvin ruotsia, pääset rauhallisempiin kouluihin ja helpommin korkeakouluihin.

Nyky-Suomen kielimalli:
- Jos osaat hyvin wokea, pääset helposti poliittisiin suojatyöpaikkoihin
- Jos et osaa wokea, et saa osallistua politiikkaan.
19. heinäk. 2023
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.07.2023, 19:03:52
[tweet]1682718137295273985[/tweet]

https://nypost.com/2023/07/20/ivy-league-lgbtq-numbers-soar-harvard-numbers-triple/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 22.07.2023, 23:54:37
Odotellaan vieläkin että suomalaiset toimittajat uutisoivat asiasta..

Quote

Jim Caviezel on Darkness, the Devil, Heath Ledger, and Sacrifice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6gjeSTPSFs



Trump ilmoittaa, että hän työskentelee antaakseen lapsikauppiaille kuolemanrangaistuksen nähtyään Sound of Freedomin

Entinen presidentti Donald Trump on ilmoittanut, että hän pyrkii tuomaan lapsikauppiaille kuolemanrangaistuksen, jos hänet valitaan uudelleen.


Katsottuaan hittielokuvan Sound of Freedom esityksen Trump julkaisi videon, jossa keskusteltiin aiheesta ja kehotettiin ihmisiä katsomaan se.

Perjantaina julkaistulla videolla Trump keskusteli joistakin saavutuksistaan, jotka liittyvät asiaan Valkoisessa talossa ollessaan - ja siitä, mitä hän aikoo tehdä, jos hänet valitaan uudelleen.

"Lopetan välittömästi Bidenin rajapainajaisen, jota ihmiskauppiaat käyttävät hyväkseen haavoittuvia naisia ​​ja lapsia", Trump sanoi. "Turvaamme rajan täysin. Käyn sotaa kartelleja vastaan, aivan kuten tuhosin ISIS-kalifaatin."

Trump sanoi pyrkivänsä lähettämään ihmiskaupan uhreiksi joutuneita lapsia takaisin perheilleen.

"Käytän osastoa 42 lopettaakseni lapsikauppakriisin palauttamalla kaikki ihmiskaupan kohteena olevat lapset perheilleen heidän kotimaassaan viipymättä", Trump vakuutti myös. "Kehotan kongressia varmistamaan, että jokainen, joka on jäänyt kiinni lapsikaupasta rajan yli, saa välittömästi kuolemanrangaistuksen."

Hän sanoi kannattavansa myös kuolemanrangaistusta naisia ​​rajan yli tuoville ihmiskauppiaille, koska he ovat eniten ihmiskaupan kohteena, ja lapset ovat toisella sijalla.

Osasto 42 antaa presidentille mahdollisuuden hillitä maahanmuuttoa kansanterveyden suojelemiseksi.

Sound of Freedom on myynyt yli 8,9 miljoonaa lippua, ja elokuva on nyt ylittänyt 100 miljoonan dollarin lipputulot.

"SOUND of FREEDOMista on tullut ihmisten elokuva. Sen valitsi yli 100 000 ihmistä Angel Guildissa, ja sitä ruokkivat lukemattomat kymmenet tuhannet "Pay it Forward" -ohjelmamme kautta, ja se hallitsee lipputuloja arjen ihmisten ruohonjuuritason liikkeen tuloksena, joka tekee tästä historiallisen menestyksen", sanoi Angel Studiosin Global Distributionin johtaja Jared Geesey. "Tämä on vastakohta Hollywoodin portinvartijoiden kehittämään ylhäältä alas -järjestelmään. Annamme ihmisille mahdollisuuden olla mukana valinnassa, rahoittamisessa ja tarinoiden jakamisessa, jotka vahvistavat valoa ja vaikuttavat kulttuuriin.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/watch-trump-announces-he-will-work-give-child/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=watch-trump-announces-he-will-work-give-child


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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 05.08.2023, 23:03:03
Racism DIDN'T Improve the Workplace?
https://youtu.be/A1gXAIVLBSY
QuoteDiversity, equity and inclusion jobs are drying up. Is it the result of the Supreme Court's ruling on affirmative action, or something else? In this episode of America Uncovered, we discuss how DEI jobs came about, how effective they've been and why they're disappearing.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 06.08.2023, 00:13:55
Orjuuden historiaa.. rehellisesti kerrottuna ja siihen reagointia..

*I'M SO MAD!🤬* Candace owens SCHOOLS black people "White People Ended Slavery"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiWqtxEfndQ
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: skyuu on 06.08.2023, 10:45:31
Niin...
Nopeasti kun wikipediasta lunttasin niin Unionin puolelta meni:
365,000+ total dead
282,000+ wounded

Paljonkos niitä orjia taas kuskattiinkaan amerikkaan? Edelleen jouduin lunttaamaan ja muistikuvani oli melkein oikein.
Total    305,326.
Samassa artikkelissa muuten todetaan orjien kohdepaikkojen jakautumasta seuraavaa:
British mainland North America    3.7%

Tuosta voisi vetää johtopäätöstä että jokaista amuriikkaan roudattua (huom! sisältää myös siirtomaa-ajan) orjaa kohti kuoli hieman yli yksi valkoinen ja haavoittui (lue vammautui koska tuolloin aika herkästi amputoitiin) vähän vajaa yksi valkoinen.

Siinä sitä ylivaltaa kerrakseen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 06.08.2023, 13:51:01
Orjuushan oli normi maailmalla aina 1800 luvulle asti ja sitä harjoittivat kaikki eri asteisena.
Orjuuden loppu lähti liikkeelle Britanniasta 1800 luvun alussa, kun anglikaanikirkoissa alettiin saarnaamaan (taisi esim. Olla joku orjalaivalla ollut, joka sai oman tunnon tuskia josta tuli pappi) orjuutta vastaan ja paikalliset ylä-ja keskiluokan rouvat alkoivat boikotoimaan sokeriruokoviljemiltä orjavoimalla tuotettua ruokosokeria. Tästä se levisi sitten parlamenttiin jossain vaiheessa ja niinpä Britannia oli ekana lakkauttamassa orjuutta.
Eli afrikkalaisten pitäisi päinvastoin kiittää valkoisia eikä syyttää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Keza on 06.08.2023, 14:24:29
Quote from: skyuu on 06.08.2023, 10:45:31
Niin...
Nopeasti kun wikipediasta lunttasin niin Unionin puolelta meni:
365,000+ total dead
282,000+ wounded

Paljonkos niitä orjia taas kuskattiinkaan amerikkaan? Edelleen jouduin lunttaamaan ja muistikuvani oli melkein oikein.
Total    305,326.
Samassa artikkelissa muuten todetaan orjien kohdepaikkojen jakautumasta seuraavaa:
British mainland North America    3.7%

Tuosta voisi vetää johtopäätöstä että jokaista amuriikkaan roudattua (huom! sisältää myös siirtomaa-ajan) orjaa kohti kuoli hieman yli yksi valkoinen ja haavoittui (lue vammautui koska tuolloin aika herkästi amputoitiin) vähän vajaa yksi valkoinen.

Siinä sitä ylivaltaa kerrakseen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States

Minä taas löysin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States eli samasta lähteestä

Orjia tuotu
Slaves transported to the British colonies and United States:[51]

1620–1700......21,000
1701–1760....189,000
1761–1770......63,000
1771–1790......56,000
1791–1800......79,000
1801–1810....124,000[52]
1810–1865......51,000
Total .............597,000


Orjia 1860   3,953,760  eli melkein 4 miljoonaa

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: skyuu on 06.08.2023, 18:30:27
^
Minä puhuin kuskatuista orjista ts. niistä ostetuista ja sinä totaalimäärästä.
Meinaat että ne orjat ei niinku noin ikäänkuin lisääntyneet keskenään? Siinä 240 vuoden aikana? Meinaat notta jos Afrikkalaisia oli vuonna x määrä y niin niitä noin niinkuin automaattisesti olisi vuonna x+10 edelleen määrä y?

Ja joo ei ruveta vänkäämään onko järkeä laittaa lasta alulle seuraavaksi orjasukupolveksi.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Keza on 06.08.2023, 19:01:34
^no minä laitoin molemmat, kuskatut eli Slaves transported to the British colonies and United States, yht n. 600 000 ja
paljonko orjia oli yhteensä sisällissodan aattona (n. 4 miljoonaa), näidenhän vapauttamisesta oli sodassa suurelta osin kysymys ja sen Lincoln nosti selvästi päämääräkseen Antietamin taistelun jälkeen, yhtenä tärkeänä motiivinaan pitää britit puolueettomina, eli julistuksessa ei ollut kyse pelkästään altruismista tai sisäpolitiikasta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: skyuu on 06.08.2023, 19:55:41
^
Joo katos ihmettelinkin mistä repäsit tuon 600k. Mutta tosiaan samassa artikkelissa...
Slaves transported to the British colonies and United States: Total .............597,000
ja
Slaves shipped to those regions that are part of the present-day United States:Total 305,326

Mutta eipä tästä sen enempää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 11.08.2023, 00:51:13
QuoteKonservatiivi­ryhmä uhkaa viedä Kelloggs'in oikeuteen "laittomasta" moni­muotoisuus­ohjelmasta

YHDYSVALTAIN entistä presidenttiä Donald Trumpia tukeva konservatiivinen America First Legal -ryhmä vaati keskiviikkona selvitystä muroistaan tunnetun Kellogg'sin työpaikkakäytännöistä.

Ryhmä vaati tasa-arvoisen työllistymisen mahdollisuuksista vastaavaa viranomaista (EEOC) selvittämään, noudattaako Kellogg'sin monimuotoisuusohjelma lakia
, Reuters kertoo.

America First Legal -ryhmää johtaa Trumpin neuvonantajana työskennellyt Stephen Miller.

AMERICA First Legal kertoi tiedotteessaan, että Kellogg's on liittänyt tuotteisiinsa seksuaalisia merkityksiä. Ryhmän mukaan yhtiön palkkaus-, koulutus- ja ylennyskäytännöt on suunniteltu tavalla, joka rikkoo työpaikkojen ennakkoasenteet kieltävää lakia.

[...]

RYHMÄ nosti esimerkikseen Kellogg'sin tavoitteen, jonka mukaan vuoteen 2025 neljännes yhtiön johtotehtävissä työskentelevistä edustaa jotain vähemmistöä. Sen mukaan yhtiö käyttää myös ohjelmia, joihin vain vähemmistöjen edustajat voivat osallistua.

"Kellogg'sin käytännöt perustuvat sellaiseen 'tasapuolisuuteen', joka on kiertoilmaisu laittomalle syrjinnälle", ryhmän asianajaja Reed Rubenstein kertoi tiedotteessa.

Ryhmä on uhannut Kellogg'sin hallitusta oikeudenkäynnillä, mikäli yhtiö jatkaa ryhmän laittomaksi väittämää moni­muotoisuus­ohjelman noudattamista.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/talous/art-2000009776328.html) 10.8.2023

Hesari ottaa kantaa laittamalla otsikossa "laittoman" lainausmerkkeihin, vaikka laittomuudesta ei pitäisi olla epäselvyyttä, mikäli tuolla on yhtään vastaavat syrjinnän kieltävät lait kuin Suomessa, kuten oletan. Trumpinkaan ei luulisi liittyvän mitenkään olennaisesti uutiseen.

Suomessa on asetettu vastaavalla tavalla muun muassa maahanmuuttajatyöntekijöiden osuudelle tavoitteita, jotka ovat oikeasti laittomia, koska niiden voi tulkita yllyttävän etniseen syrjintään yksittäisissä rekrytointipäätöksissä. Tuskin niitä kuitenkaan koskaan testataan oikeudessa, koska sellainen olisi rasismia.

Vihreiden Tarja Cronberg'hän ehdotti (https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000004596850.html) viitisentoista vuotta sitten työministerinä, että työpaikoilla pitäisi olla listat siitä, miten työpaikoilla toteutuu monimuotoisuus työntekijöiden etnisen taustan, sukupuolisen suuntautumisen, vakaumuksien ja uskontojen suhteen. Ministerille sitten huomautettiin, että sellaiset listat ovat laittomia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 15.08.2023, 20:59:57
Edellisellä sivulla mainitsemani, muutaman päivän jopa listaykkösenä ollut, Christopher F. Rufo : America´s Cultural Revolution : How the Radical Left Conquered Everything, tuli luettua.

Huh, huh. Onneksi oli hieman pohjatietoa aiheesta. Kylmiltään tämä voisi vaikuttaa fiktiiviseltä sepitelmältä. Kirjailija on perehtynyt aiheeseen enemmän kuin hyvin. Tästä osoituksena mm. se että viiteluettelo on liki 50 sivuinen. Jätän osan suosiolla kääntämättä ja käytän mieluummin alkuperäisiä sanoja niin eivät huku käännökseen.

Kirja on melko kronologisessa järjestyksessä. 1.osa: Revolution, 2.osa: Race, 3.osa Education ja 4.osa Power

Jostain syystä täällä Hommalla ei ole mainittu muutamia päähahmoja kertaakaan.

Eräänlaiseksi alkuhetkeksi kirjailija määrittelee Lontoossa 1967 pidetyn Dialectics of Liberation konferenssin. Yksi puhujista oli Herbert Marcuse. Puhe oli ilmeisen innostava koska sen jälkeen marsseilla käytettiin kylttejä Marx, Mao, Marcuse! Tyyppi oli pessimistinen proletariaarien vallankumouksesta ja päätyi siihen että mustat ovat vastaanottavaisempia idealle.

Samoihin aikoihin saksalainen Rudi Dutschke kehitti ideoita päätyen termiin "Pitkä marssi läpi instituutioiden". Vuonna 1976 Saksan Vihreät oli uusi puolue ja hän oli innolla mukana uudessa eko-sosialistisessa kehitelmässä. Mies kuoli 1979 vain 39-vuotiaana. (omat lisäykset)

Yksi Marcusen oppilaista oli, jenkkilässä varsin tunnettu hahmo, Angela Davis. Läheinen Black Liberation Armyn kanssa. Samoin Bernardine Dohm, joka taasen oli perustamassa Weather Undergroundia. Jonka Communique #1 (https://genius.com/Weather-underground-a-declaration-of-a-state-of-war-communique-1-annotated) julistaa "Black people have been fighting almost alone for years. We've known that our job is to lead white kids into armed revolution"

Vuonna 1974 Weather Underground julkaisi, Maon "yksi kipinä voi sytyttää preeriapalon" lainaten, manifestin "Prairie Fire".
Teos vilisee nykyään yleisessä käytössä olevia latautuneita sanoja ja sanontoja "institutionaalinen rasismi", "anti-rasismi", "white privilege", "monopolikapitalismi", "valkoinen ylivalta" ja vaikka mitä muuta.

Että sellaisella pohjalla woke toimii. Sana woke esiintyy kirjassa vain yhdessä sivulauseessa. Koko teos on kyllä sitä itseään.

Myöhempiin vuosiin edetessä sivukaupalla tilaa saavat mm. tässäkin ketjussa mainittu Paulo Freire. Derrick Bell, BLM, DEI, koululaitos kokonaisuudessa sekä tiedonvälitys.

Silmiä avaava kirja joka antaa tukuittain hei hetkinen juuri noinhan täälläkin toimitaan oivalluksia.

Väkevä lukusuositus :)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 22.08.2023, 13:31:09
Nyt loppui sitten myös näytteleminen! :-\

Helsingin Sanomat 22.8.2023 (https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000009789667.html)
QuoteMaija Alander HS
Bradley Cooperin teko­nenästä nousi kohu – Mitä näyttelijöiden proteeseista pitäisi ajatella?

Ei ole helppoa tai yksiselitteistä määrittää, onko näyttelijän fyysinen muuntautuminen toisen ihmisryhmän (tai ihmisen) edustajaksi eettisesti oikein.

Edit. kirjoittajan nimi
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 22.08.2023, 14:44:08
^Vastaus on helppo ja todellakin yksiselitteinen: saa näytellä ja näyttää miltä haluaa! (woket ovat hullumpia kuin voisi edes kuvitella)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nikolas on 24.08.2023, 02:27:46
Videolla Miriam Grossman selittää muutaman painavan asian, liittyen sukupuolen korjailuihin ja muuhun sellaiseen. Hän käytti siihen vain viisi minuuttia, mutta asiantuntemus loistaa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTMFKoytMo

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 24.08.2023, 12:06:41
Quote from: Nikolas on 24.08.2023, 02:27:46
Videolla Miriam Grossman selittää muutaman painavan asian, liittyen sukupuolen korjailuihin ja muuhun sellaiseen. Hän käytti siihen vain viisi minuuttia, mutta asiantuntemus loistaa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abTMFKoytMo
Quote
I'll end by quoting Jamie Reed the courageous whistleblower from the  children's gender clinic in St Louis. She said that doctors at that clinic said "we are building the plane while we are flying it. We are building the plane while we are flying it". That's how they described the treatment at their gender Clinic.

Our precious tax dollars should not support such a perilous experiment.

"Rakennamme lentokonetta samaan aikaan kun lennämme sitä." Eli siis tietävät olevansa totaalisia puoskareita.

Quote from: https://medium.com/@coachjennie/the-freedom-of-building-the-plane-while-flying-it-96dd2d899656What does building the plane while flying it mean? It's a metaphor that perfectly captures the essence of starting something new without having all the details figured out. Sometimes, you just have to jump in and figure things out as you go.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 25.08.2023, 14:30:15
Richard Dawkins on tiukasti argumentoinut, että sukupuolia on kaksi ja että ne ovat selkeästi määritettävissä, eivätkä missään tapauksessa mielipidekysymyksiä.  Hän haastatteli Helen Joycea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Joyce), jolla niin ikään on "klassinen" näkemys sukupuolista.  Minusta haastattelu (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu72Lu5FqE4) on varsin mielenkiintoinen, eikä millään tavalla väkivaltainen tai hyökkäävä. Juutuubin katselija jätti kuitenkin valituksen minkä vuoksi X lätkäisi videon yhteyteen mainoskiellon rankaisuna "vihapuheesta". Tämä kuitenkin peruttiin sittemmin.  Tapaus innosti kuitenkin Dawkinsin kirjoittamaan kannanoton Evening Standardiin nykyajan sanallisesta yliherkkyydestä.  Artikkeli on luettavissa myös X:ssä (alla).  Ihan mielenkiintoista tekstiä tämäkin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.08.2023, 18:05:42
Quote from: https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/rock-legendoilta-taystyrmays-woke-sukupuolisekoilulle-taysin-jarjetonta/elokuu 26, 2023
Rock-legen­doilta täys­tyr­mäys woke-suku­puo­li­se­koi­lulle: "Täysin järje­töntä"
Pitkän linjan rokkarit Alice Cooper ja Carlos Santana ottavat jyrkän kielteisen kannan woke-ideologiaa ja wokeen kuuluvaa sukupuoliaktivismia kohtaan. Äskettäin uuden levyn julkaissut Alice Cooper varoittaa wokesta etenkin lapsiperheiden vanhempia. Cooper vaatii selkeää rajanvetoa muoti-ilmiölle, jonka mukaan ihminen voisi valita sukupuolensa omien tuntemustensa perusteella.
...
Cooper sanoo tiedostavansa, että on olemassa transseksuaalisia ihmisiä, mutta katsoo transintoilun olevan nykyään lähinnä muoti-ilmiö.

– Ymmärrän, että keskuudessamme on transsukupuolisia, mutta pelkään, että se on nykyään myös muotia. Pelkäänkin, että monet väittävät olevansa tällaisia tapauksia vain siksi, että he haluavat olla sellaisia.

Cooper varoittaa aikuisia ja lapsiperheiden vanhempia rohkaisemasta lapsia sukeltamaan sukupuolihämmennyksen syövereihin.

– Minusta on väärin, kun sinulla on kuusivuotias lapsi, jolla ei ole asiasta aavistustakaan. Hän haluaa vain leikkiä ja sinä hämmennät häntä sanomalla hänelle: "Joo, olet poika, mutta voisit olla tyttö, jos haluat olla." Tuo on hämmentävää lapselle, mutta se on sitä myös teini-ikäiselle. Ajattele nyt: lapsena yrität vain löytää identiteettiäsi, mutta tässä on kuitenkin meneillään tämä juttu, joka uskottelee että voit olla mitä tahansa mitä haluat olla, vaikka kissa.

– Mihin me olemme oikein päätyneet? Elämmekö me parhaillaan todeksi jonkin Kurt Vonnegutin romaanin tapahtumia. Touhu on niin absurdia, että se on mennyt jo täysin järjettömäksi.
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Alice Cooper pitää wokeen kuuluvaa sukupuolineutraalin kielen vaatimusta naurettavana. Cooper ihmetteleekin, kuka woke-säännöt on laatinut.

– Kuka tekee säännöt? Onko jossain New Yorkissa rakennus, jossa ihmiset kokoustavat päivittäin ja sanovat: Okei, emme voi sanoa "äiti" nyt. Meidän on sanottava "synnyttäjä". Kuka on se henkilö, joka tekee nämä säännöt? En vain tajua tätä. Ei sen puoleen, että olisin itse jotenkin vanhanaikainen, yritän vain olla looginen.


Cooper kyseenalaistaa woke-uskomuksen, jonka mukaan ihminen voi valita sukupuolensa omalla päätöksellään. Rock-legenda huomauttaa ilmiön voivan johtaa hyväksikäyttäjien valtaan ja samalla naisten oikeuksien ja turvallisuuden heikkenemiseen.

– Hyväksikäyttäjille avautuu mahdollisuuksia. Joku satunnainen tyyppi voi vain kävellä naisten kylpyhuoneeseen milloin tahansa ja sanoa: "Tunnen olevani tänään nainen". Joku tulee raiskatuksi, ja naiseksi itsensä tunteva mies sanoo: "No, minä tunsin itseni tytöksi sinä päivänä".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Penan kaveri Eki on 27.08.2023, 21:32:26
Miksi on niin vaikeata kirjoittaa, että nainen kuoli kilpaillessa?

IS ja Etlari:Kilpailija kuoli triathlon­kisassa Lahdessa
    https://www.is.fi/urheilu/art-2000009812345.html

Maikkari: Triahtlonin MM-kisoista traaginen uutinen: urheilija menehtyi Lahdessa
    https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/triahtlonin-mm-kisoista-traaginen-uutinen-urheilija-menehtyi-lahdessa-han-sai-valitonta-laaketieteellista-apua/8765536

Tusari: Osallistuja menehtyi Lahdessa triathlonin MM-kisoissa
    https://www.ts.fi/uutiset/6086040

IL: Lahden Ironman-kisassa kuoli ihminen
    https://www.iltalehti.fi/muutlajit/a/2477d379-0a2a-479b-8a76-027636f76594


Ylen leipätekstistä poimittua:..Tänään triathlonin puolimatkan MM-kisojen naisten kilpailu Lahdessa sai surullisen käänteen....
    https://yle.fi/a/74-20047119


Edit: Nämä olivat siis triathlonin MM-kisat (kutsukisat), eli kaikilla osallistujilla +50 kilpailua takanaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 27.08.2023, 22:25:35
Tuolla sukupuolen häivyttämisellä halutaan ilmeisesti nostaa naisurheilun arvostusta. Tuollaista tarkoituksellista sukupuolen häivyttämistä on nähty nyt urheilujournalismissa jokunen vuosi, ja aina se tuntuu yhtä naurettavalta.

Esimerkiksi naisten jalkapallon MM-kisat olivat monissa välineissä otsikkotasolla vain jalkapallon MM-kisat. Ehkä siinä joku hölmömpi jäi miettimään, mistä kisoista nyt oli kyse, mutta eihän noita miesten ja naisten kisoja samaan aikaan pelata, joten lajia seuraaville oli ihan selvää, kumman kisat ne olivat. Samanlaisia häivyttämispyrkimyksiä näkee luonnollisesti myös naisten jääkiekosta uutisoitaessa. Tässä on kunnostautunut etenkin eräs vapaaehtoisvoimin pyörivä jääkiekkosivusto, jolla ei varmasti ole asiaan painetta, ellei sitä itse haluta.

Naisten urheilun arvostus nousee kuitenkin parhaiten sillä, että se on hyvää. Naisten jalkapallo on mennyt todella paljon eteenpäin, ja kas kummaa, arvostuskin on noussut samalla selvästi. Muistan, että joskus 90-luvulla naisten futista verrattiin härskeimmillään vammaisurheiluun, mutta enää noita puheita ei kuule. Siihen on ihan yksinkertainen syy: tason nouseminen.

Tuo sukupuolenhäivytyskikkailu on yhtä noloa kuin valitus siitä, miksei naisten jalkapallossa pyöri samanlaisia rahasummia kuin miesten jalkapallossa. Ei pyöri vielä, mutta tilanne paranee koko ajan. Kaikkea ei vain saa heti. Kannattaa myös muistaa, että naisten urheilu ei ole mitenkään yleisesti väheksyttyä, esimerkiksi yleisurheilussa naisten kilpailut ovat usein ihan yhtä seurattuja kuin miestenkin, joissain lajeissa ovat jopa seuratumpia.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 31.08.2023, 17:34:28
Menisikö tämä kulttuurimarxismi-ketjuun vai tähän. Videon aiheena on se kun ESG on mennyt yli äyräiden.

NYP lehden artikkeli varoittaa kulttuurimarxilaisuuden taloudellisista seurauksista sijoitustoiminn
https://youtu.be/UcHcS6g2UM4
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 31.08.2023, 17:40:44
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 31.08.2023, 17:34:28
Menisikö tämä kulttuurimarxismi-ketjuun vai tähän. Videon aiheena on se kun ESG on mennyt yli äyräiden.

NYP lehden artikkeli varoittaa kulttuurimarxilaisuuden taloudellisista seurauksista sijoitustoiminn
https://youtu.be/UcHcS6g2UM4

Piti oikein guuglata ESG, kun videoita ei jaksa katsoa.

Onko minun toiminimeni nyt ESG, kun olen ostanut vanhojen sähkökoneiden ja polttomoottorisahan tilalle Makitan akkuvehkeitä, joita voin latailla yöllä? Omistan myös sähköttömiä käsityökaluja, mutta ne eivät ole firman taseessa. Tosin olen ihan koemielessä kaatanut joskus pari pihapuuta hakkaamalla kirveellä kaatokolon ja sahaamalla pokasahalla loput. Yhden pienemmän puun joskus kaadoin kun leikin lännen lokaria tai majavaa. Ei sattunut sahaa käteen, kun päätin että puusta pitää päästä eroon. Kaadoin sitten pelkällä kirveellä. Vitsit, mutta  se oli miesoletettuhekästä.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 02.09.2023, 19:06:09
QuoteJopa Trump kyllästyi "wokeen"

Donald Trump kertoi kyllästyneensä "wokeen" poliittisena viholliskuvana. Amerikkalainen termi on ollut suomalaiselle poliittiselle keskustelullekin pelkkä riesa.

"Tiedostavaksi" kääntyvää termiä alettiin käyttää muutama vuosi sitten kotimaisessakin poliittisessa keskustelussa ivallisena kuvailuna ideologisen puhdas­oppisuuden vaalijasta, joka vahtii sosiaalisessa mediassa muiden sananvalintoja.

[...]

LÄHES yhtä lennokas on ajatuspaja Suomen Perustan artikkelikirja Woke – identiteettipolitiikkaa antirasismista transkysymyksiin.

Kirjoittajien mukaan kyse on "vallanpitäjien vallankumouksesta tavallista kansaa vastaan" ja "uusien woke-aatteiden maailmanlaajuisesta juurrutuksesta länsimaissa". Woke-kulttuuria puskevat eteenpäin "maapallon suurimmat pankit, finanssi- ja sijoitusyhtiöt". Uhkana on "woke-kapitalismi".

Pelot kuulostavat ylimitoitetuilta siihen nähden, että termi ei tarkoita oikein mitään, mutta samalla mitä tahansa, joka herättää ärtymystä kuulijassa.

Puolet ihmisistä ei edes ymmärrä, mitä sana tarkoittaa, kuittasi myös Donald Trump.

TAITAVANA populistina Trump osaa haistella yhteiskunnallista ilmapiiriä ja luoda keskustelun agendan. Usein hän toistaa yksinkertaisia sanoja, joiden viesti jää mieleen. "Woke" ei toimi edes sellaisena.

Ihmisten mielenkiintokin on nyt muualla: lainojen koroissa, nousseissa hinnoissa, hallituksen miljardileikkauksissa, valtionvelassa, Ukrainan sodassa.

Etenkin viimeistä vasten huoli siitä, johtaako pahimmillaan vähän yliherkkä tiedostavuus tosiaan länsimaisen sivilisaation rappioon, kuulostaa parempien aikojen ongelmalta. Kesän rasismikeskustelukaan ei ollut lillukanvarsissa vaan asian ytimessä.

Ironista on, että woke-keskustelun hautasi Donald Trump. Kepeät mullat.

Kirjoittaja on HS:n talouden ja politiikan toimituksen ja HS Vision esihenkilö.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000009824304.html) 2.9.2023

Toimittajan mielestä "woke"-termi on "pelkkä riesa", josta on syytä päästä eroon, koska Trumpinkin mukaan "puolet ihmisistä ei edes ymmärrä, mitä sana tarkoittaa" ja koska "ihmisten mielenkiintokin on nyt muualla". Mikäs siinä, vaikka itse ilmiö ei siitä miksikään muutu eikä katoa vaan päinvastoin laajenee muun muassa kouluihin.

Mutta tämä:

Quote from: Veera Luoma-aho, HSEtenkin viimeistä vasten huoli siitä, johtaako pahimmillaan vähän yliherkkä tiedostavuus tosiaan länsimaisen sivilisaation rappioon, kuulostaa parempien aikojen ongelmalta. Kesän rasismikeskustelukaan ei ollut lillukanvarsissa vaan asian ytimessä.

Kesän rasismikeskustelu asian ytimessä?

Rasismi on ollut syrjintäkeskustelussa terminä pelkkä riesa, joka tiedonannosta huolimatta tarkoittaa edelleen eri ihmisille aivan eri asioita, ja ihmiset, jopa toimittajat, ovat ilmaisseet kyllästymisensä loputtomaan ja tuloksettomaan rasismista jauhamiseen.

Kesän rasismikeskustelijoihin sopii yksyhteen toimittajan oma woke-määritelmä "kuvailuna ideologisen puhdas­oppisuuden vaalijasta, joka vahtii sosiaalisessa mediassa muiden sananvalintoja". Valtamedian pääkirjoituksissa ja kommenteissa hallituksen tiedonannon seurauksista odotettiin vain sitä, että perussuomalaisten on vähintäänkin muutettava sanavalintojaan sellaisiksi, että ne kelpaavat ideologisen puhdasoppisuuden vaalijoille.

Määrittelyn vaikeudesta huolimatta woke-ilmiön vähättely tuntuu kovasti tarkoitushakuiselta myös siksi, että Hesarissakin on liitetty moneen yhteiskunnalliseen ilmiöön muka merkittäväksi tekijäksi "kansainvälinen anti-gender-liike" eli epämääräinen salaliittoteoria siitä, että paha kansainvälinen äärioikeisto haluaa vyöryttää Suomesta pois aborttioikeuden ja homojen ihmisoikeudet ja että tällainen uhkaava liike yrittää vaikuttaa muun muassa Päivi Räsäsen sananvapausoikeudenkäyntiin (https://www.hs.fi/kaupunki/art-2000009751277.html).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 02.09.2023, 22:13:29
Quote
The De-Civilization of America | Victor Davis Hanson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7e34f22HXY

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.09.2023, 18:16:20
Kopioin tämän tännekin.

Kalifornia aikoo saattaa voimaan lain, joka estää rikollisten estämisen! $18,000 sakkoa jos estät myymälävarasta. Keskiluokan ja koko yhteiskunnan tuhoaminen edistyy ripeästi.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 05.09.2023, 18:30:20
Kansainvälinen bisneskäsikirja varoittaa wokesta – yritysten on päätettävä, irtisanotaanko taitava työntekijä jos hän ajattelee väärin
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/kansainvalinen-bisneskasikirja-varoittaa-wokesta-yritysten-on-paatettava-irtisanotaanko-taitava-tyontekija-jos-han-ajattelee-vaarin/
Quote2020-luvun johtamishaasteita käsittelevässä käsikirjassa ruoditaan woke-kapitalismia. Maailman johtavat bisnesprofessorit kirjoittavat, että woken myötä yritykset kilpailevat innovoinnin sijaan entistä enemmän hyvesignaloinnilla ja identiteettipoliittisella asemoitumisella. Globalisaation myötä nykytilanne on kärjistyneempi kuin menneiden vuosikymmenten kulttuurisodissa. Woke kuluttaa resursseja. Yrityksiin pesiytyneet aktivistit ja woke-teolliset konsultit hyötyvät, kun taas kokonaisuudessaan organisaatiot ovat allttiimpia häviämään ja kantamaan ylimääräisiä riskejä. Tavanomaiset kuluttajat ja epäpoliittiset työntekijät ovat todennäköisimpiä häviäjiä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 05.09.2023, 21:16:27
Racism DIDN'T Improve the Military?
https://youtu.be/5lC7ioy-wy0
QuoteThe US military has been incorporating Diversity, Equity and Inclusion training in its training fr soldiers. It claims this makes the military more diverse and thus stronger. But a lot of conservatives have pushed back, claiming DEI has actually sowed devision and turned would-be-recruits off from joining the military. In this episode of America Uncovered, we look at some of the training materials that incorporate DEI, how the military has tried to hide what it's teaching, and the tension over DEI between upper and lower management.

DEI on ängetty Amerikan asevoimiin, mutta miten se auttaa sotimisessa esim. Kiinaa vastaan?

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.09.2023, 19:18:59
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.09.2023, 16:53:00
Ei mitään erityisen uutta, mutta järjen ääntä kuitenkin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.09.2023, 16:59:47
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QuoteDr Jordan B Peterson | @jordanbpeterson

Feb 24, 2022

This is how your freedom is taken.

Things get to terrible places one tiny step at a time.

If I encroach you and I'm sophisticated about it, I'm going to encroach two millimetres. I'm going to encroach right to the point where you begin to protest. Then I'm going to stop. (1/3)

Then I'm going to wait.

I'm going to encroach again, right to the point where you protest. I'm going to stop. And then I'm going to wait.

I'm just going to do that forever.

Before you know it, you're going to be back three miles from where you started. (2/3)

And you'll have done it one step at a time. You'll ask "Oh, how did I get here?".

The answer is "Well, I pushed you a little farther than you should have gone, and you agreed."

From The Joe Rogan Experience #877, published in 2016. (3/3)
5:34 PM · Feb 24, 2022
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.09.2023, 18:13:09
Ketähän tässä on haastateltu?

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EDIT: löytyi lisää sataa, liitteessä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 14.09.2023, 20:07:38
Tällainen puhe epäilemättä lisääntyy, kun hulluuden heiluri heilahtaa takaisin. Niin, ja vaaleja ei ole vielä pidetty eikä ketään valittu.

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Seuraavasta alempi twiitti.

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- "This guy is seriously so amazing! I'm seriously looking into Argentinian citizenship."

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 20.09.2023, 22:31:14
Woke-ideologia tuppautumassa myös Suomeen– mistä on kyse? (osa 1)
https://youtu.be/CsDN5AlhWTg

Woke-ideologia tuppautumassa myös Suomeen– mistä on kyse? (osa 2)
https://youtu.be/D__LoY22uXc

QuoteMistä wokessa on pohjimmiltaan kyse ja millaiset ovat sen vaikutukset? Miksi jopa 80% amerikkalaisista vastustaa woken uuskieltä ja sensuuria? Studiossa aiheesta keskustelemassa tutkimusjohtaja, dosentti Juha Ahvio ja LCCIU professori, Pohjois-Amerikan kirkkohistorian dosentti Markku Ruotsila. Ohjelman toimittaa Jori Asikainen.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.09.2023, 09:54:02
Tämä woke-pelleily varmaan edistää kivasti tyttöjen urheiluharrastusta.

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Suora linkki: https://www.iltalehti.fi/yleisurheilu/a/fa262e8c-f3ee-48ac-abac-26982a24254f

QuoteIvan Puopolo | @ivanpuopolo

Karmaisevaa on, miten heikkoja ihmiset ovat. Jos poliittinen ja moraalinen paine on riittävän kova, ihmiset taipuvat.

Mikään väite ei ole liian älytön, yksikään havainto tai teoreettinen epäjohdonmukaisuus ei ole este. Kun usko on riittävän vahva, kaikki käy.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 25.09.2023, 10:50:49
Ratkaistaan tuo woke kilpailujen seurauksena selvinnyt poikien ylivoima urheilussa jakamalla kaikille kultamitali ja 1. sija tuloksissa. Proplem solved?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.09.2023, 11:14:16
Quote from: Sakari on 25.09.2023, 10:50:49
Ratkaistaan tuo woke kilpailujen seurauksena selvinnyt poikien ylivoima urheilussa jakamalla kaikille kultamitali ja 1. sija tuloksissa. Proplem solved?

Tai sitten toistetaan kilpailu, ja annetaan kaikille etumatkaa siinä suhteessa miten huonoja ne ovat parempiin verrattuna. Näin kaikki voivat tulla maaliin yhtä aikaa. Näin työelämäkin toimii: kiintiöitä ja positiivista suosimista huonommille, jotta olisivat yhdenvertaisia parempia kanssa.

Tasa-arvoa, perskeles, syrjimällä lahjakkampia ja ansioituneitunenpia avulla! Näin se hyvä tulee!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 25.09.2023, 13:16:09
Nuo mainitut koululaisten sukupuolineutraalit urheilukisat sujuivat oikeastaan täydellisesti. Lapsetkin näkivät ja kokivat, millaista hulluutta sukupuolineutraaliusvouhotus on, eivätkä aikuisetkaan pystyneet enää tätä hulluutta järjellä perustelemaan. On tietysti ikävää, jos tämä hulluus vähensi joidenkin tyttöjen kiinnostusta urheiluun, mutta valitettavasti tällaisilla fanaattisilla uskonnoilla on aina uhrinsa. Enkä tiedä, hyötyivätkö tästä edes ne muunsukupuoliset lapset, joita kisoissa oli kai ajateltu. Mutta jospa näistä kasvaa ihan täyspäisiä lapsia, jotka ajattelevat, että ei ainakaan tätä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 25.09.2023, 13:49:22
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.09.2023, 09:54:02
Tämä woke-pelleily varmaan edistää kivasti tyttöjen urheiluharrastusta.

Älähän nyt! Tuossahan on Hesarin jutun mukaan tarkoitus että mukaan pääsevät myös ne jotka eivät tunne oloaan turvalliseksi poikana ja/tai tyttönä. Non-binääriset ala-astelaiset siis.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 25.09.2023, 13:56:04
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.09.2023, 11:14:16
Quote from: Sakari on 25.09.2023, 10:50:49
Ratkaistaan tuo woke kilpailujen seurauksena selvinnyt poikien ylivoima urheilussa jakamalla kaikille kultamitali ja 1. sija tuloksissa. Proplem solved?

Tai sitten toistetaan kilpailu, ja annetaan kaikille etumatkaa siinä suhteessa miten huonoja ne ovat parempiin verrattuna.

Yes, meritokratia on niin last season. Mitäs sitä yhteiskunnan dynaamisuutta ylläpitämään. Kaikki vaan loisimaan köyhtyvän valtion tissiin kiinni. Jos sosialistin unelma on saada väki niin riippuvaiseksi valtiosta, että sitä voi hallita mielinmäärin ilman vastustusta, saa sosialistit hallintaan melkoisen kurjan paskamaan. Luulisi sosialistillakin olevan joku muukin päämäärä yhteiskunnan tavoitteeksi kuin hallita lähinnä ei mitään, painoarvolla ei mitään. Tai sitten sosialistin unelma on johtaa paria pultsaria.

Tosielämässä heikentynyt valtio joutuu helposti pahantahtoisten ylikansallisten yritysten ja valtioiden riistomaaksi. Tsekatkaa vaikka Afrikka.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.09.2023, 14:02:05
Quote from: Betonikostaja on 25.09.2023, 13:16:09Enkä tiedä, hyötyivätkö tästä edes ne muunsukupuoliset lapset, joita kisoissa oli kai ajateltu.

Eivät todellakaan hyödy, koska muunsukupuolisia tai translapsia ei ole, koska Suomessa EI tehdä transleikkauksia alaikäisille.

Todellisia transsukupuolisia henkilöitä - eli väärään sukupuoleen syntyneitä - on Suomessa vain noin 0,1-0,3 prosenttia väestöstä. Eli 99,8% väestöstä - suurin osa naisia - joutuu nyt taipuilemaan ja kärsimään vessoissa ja urheilukilpauissa 0,1%:n vuoksi, joiden urheilukilpailuhaluja tai  kokemaa wc-kauhua ole tutkittu.

Ei toudellakaan näin!  Mielenkiintoista millaiseen hulluuteen ihmiskunta voidaan houkutella osallistumaan.

Lisää täällä: https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/sukupuolen-vaihtaminen-maksaa-kymmenia-tuhansia-euroja-kela-korvaa-suuren-osan-kuluista/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 25.09.2023, 14:13:48
Mielestäni aikoinaan kun itse oli lapsi, niin jo hyvin pienenä pojat olivat nopeampia vahvempia ja urheilullisempia enkä mitenkään usko, että kyse oli VAIN kulttuurista. En usko Bryggaren ja tutkijoiden väitettä että fyysisiä eroja ei muka ole ihan pienillä lapsilla. Jos fysiologisesti ei sitten olisikasn eroa, niin mentaalisesti sitten on joka tekee pojista vilkkaampia ja "rajumpia"  leikeissään eli pojat "harjoittelevat" enemmän. Ja biologiaahan ne aivotkin ovat jotka saavat pojat häseltämään enemmän jo pienenä. Tyttöjä kiinnostaa ihan pienestä estetiikka eli "kauneus" enemmän ja sehän ei saa palloa lentämään pidemmälle.
Nämä siis KESKIMÄÄRÄISYYKSIÄ.
Koskahan tutkijat oivaltavat, että pojat ja tytöt ovat erilaisia?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 25.09.2023, 18:53:15
Quote from: Caucasian on 25.09.2023, 14:13:48
..Koskahan tutkijat oivaltavat, että pojat ja tytöt ovat erilaisia?
Oletan, että tuo "oivallus" on ollut koko ajan kaikkien tiedossa, mutta sitä ei uskalleta sanoa ääneen, ettei vaan kukaan pahoita mieltään, tai pahimmassa tapauksessa, tutkija saattaisi menettää virkansa, jos kertoo julkisuuteen itsestäänselvyyksiä, jotka eivät ole sallittuja nykypäivän tutkijoille. Kuten sellaisia "vaarallisia" ajatuksia, että sukupuolia on vain kaksi: mies ja nainen, jotka tarvitsevat toisiaan, jos tahtovat lisääntyä.

Jokainen voi tietysti kokea olevansa vaikka mitä, mutta yhteiskunnalla ei ole mitään velvollisuutta, tukea kaikin mahdollisin keinoin, eri yksilöiden näkemyksiä ja kokemuksia omasta sukupuoli-identiteetistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 25.09.2023, 20:00:39
^Kun yhteiskunnan päättäjät uskaltavat tunnustaa tämän oivalluksen, niin luontaisen jatko on, että erilaisilla ihmisillä on muitakin erilaisia kykyjä kuin fysiikka ja siitäpä onkin loogista oivaltaa, että hei... kun nuo ovat tuommoisia, niin niiden kannattaa tehdä tällaisia hommia ja noiden taas jannattaa tehdä tuollaisia hommia.  ;) ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 26.09.2023, 17:58:18
Taas on koko Suomi ihan sekaisin, kun on kuultu sana neekeri:

Quote
HÄMEENLINNAN jäähallissa raikui Kake Singersin Me halutaan olla neekereitä -kappale kesken HPK:n ja Lukon välisen alle 16-vuotiaden SM-sarjaottelun sunnuntaina.

https://www.is.fi/jaakiekko/art-2000009879785.html
Ihan tahallaanhan tuota biisiä soitetaan. Soittaminen loppuisi, jos sitä ei noteerattaisi. Mutta kun hysteerinen vastaanotto on varma, niin joku haluaa aina kokeilla.

Jutussa ei mainittu, oliko pelaajien joukossa yhtään neekeriä. Olisihan tuo biisi silloin osuvampi.

Mutta jatkakaa samaan malliin. Lisää siedätyshoitoa!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 26.09.2023, 18:06:43
^Muistaakseni biisissä ollaan niinkuin kateellisia tummahipiäisille ja halutaan bilettää yhtä vapautuneesti eikä jäykän suomalaisesti. Eli Afrikkalaisia ei mollata siinä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 27.09.2023, 05:44:53
Quote from: Caucasian on 26.09.2023, 18:06:43
^Muistaakseni biisissä ollaan niinkuin kateellisia tummahipiäisille ja halutaan bilettää yhtä vapautuneesti eikä jäykän suomalaisesti. Eli Afrikkalaisia ei mollata siinä?
Kyllä, juuri näin. Mutta on ihan sama, missä yhteydessä n-sanaa käytetään, siitä tulee aina valtakunnantason paskahalvaus.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 27.09.2023, 07:20:16
Quote from: Betonikostaja on 27.09.2023, 05:44:53
Quote from: Caucasian on 26.09.2023, 18:06:43
^Muistaakseni biisissä ollaan niinkuin kateellisia tummahipiäisille ja halutaan bilettää yhtä vapautuneesti eikä jäykän suomalaisesti. Eli Afrikkalaisia ei mollata siinä?
Kyllä, juuri näin. Mutta on ihan sama, missä yhteydessä n-sanaa käytetään, siitä tulee aina valtakunnantason paskahalvaus.
Seura ilmoitti, että biisin soittaminen "ei edusta sen arvoja", niin tuli vaan mieleen, että tuosta voisi päätellä ettei Afrikkalainen meno edusta heidän arvojaan.  :D
Saakohan muuten enää soittaa Hullujussin Bingo, bango bongoa?  :o
Siinäkin näet ihastellaan Afrikkaa lännen "sivilisaation" sijaan, kuten alkuperäisessä englanninkielisessäkin biisissä.
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Post by: Kemolitor on 27.09.2023, 13:52:46
Jos tähän ketjuun kirjoittamisen tarkoitus on lähinnä päästä toistelemaan neekeri-sanaa, niin ketju on aivan väärä siihen tarkoitukseen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.10.2023, 18:48:10
Saksalainen keikanjärjestäjä-wokettaja kielsi saksalaista muusikkoa soittamasta australialaista perinnesoitinta, koska se olisi ollut kulttuurivarkaus. Hullu, hullu maailma! Nyt kun kulttuurien vaihtoa halutaan harrastaa, niin tälläinen kulttuurien moninaisuus ei sitten onnistukaan.  :facepalm:

Tältä se kuulostaa:

Traditional Didgeridoo Rhythms by Lewis Burns, Aboriginal Australian Artist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG9ZX1FS20A

Konekäännös.

Quote from: https://www.bild.de/regional/hamburg/hamburg-aktuell/kiel-didgeridoo-konzert-abgesagt-wegen-kultureller-aneignung-85605962.bild.htmlKonsertti peruttu "kulttuurivarastuksen" vuoksi
Saksalaiset muusikot eivät saa soittaa didgeridoota


2. lokakuuta 2023

Lokakuun 13. päivänä ammattimuusikon ja didgeridoo-soittaja Tom Fronzan (53) piti esiintyä bändinsä kanssa Kielin Lorentzendammin Alte Mussa, mutta järjestäjä peruutti lyhyellä varoitusajalla "Kieler Nachrichtenin" mukaan. Syy: Fronzan instrumentti on "kulttuurinen omaisuus".

Anteeksi, mitä? Syytöksen mukaan Fronza soittaa soitinta, joka joidenkin vasemmistoaktivistien määritelmän mukaan "kuuluu" australialaisten alkuperäisasukkaille, ja siksi vain heidän tulisi soittaa sitä. Fronza muuten ottaisi pois osan alkuperäiskansojen kulttuurista ja tekisi sillä myös rahaa.

Hämmentävä argumentti? Ainakin yksi syy, joka saa kiihtymään sosiaalisessa mediassa. Kun Fronza ilmestyi Internetissä täysin kauhistuneeksi, monet fanit olivat myös raivoissaan ja kommentoivat muun muassa, että järjestäjillä "ei ollut kaikkea aidalla".

Dieter Nuhr vihainen: "Natsit olisivat pitäneet tästä"

Kabareetaiteilija Dieter Nuhr vaati myös ottamaan aiheen esille satiirisessa esityksessään. "Westfalen-Postin" mukaan hän kommentoi kaustisesti: "Täällä myönnetään oikeus soittaa instrumenttia etnisen alkuperän perusteella." Ja: "Luulen, että natsit olisivat pitäneet siitä kovasti."

Fronza itse, joka asui Australiassa useita vuosia ja on opettanut didgeridoota vuodesta 1997, on yllättynyt päätöksestä. Päivämäärä oli sovittu vaihtoehtokollektiivi "Fahrrad Kino Kombinat" kanssa jo reilu puoli vuotta sitten, mutta muusikko sai tietää peruutuksesta vasta sattumalta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 02.10.2023, 19:59:18
Quote from: Näkkileipä on 25.09.2023, 18:53:15
Oletan, että tuo "oivallus" on ollut koko ajan kaikkien tiedossa, mutta sitä ei uskalleta sanoa ääneen, ettei vaan kukaan pahoita mieltään, tai pahimmassa tapauksessa, tutkija saattaisi menettää virkansa, jos kertoo julkisuuteen itsestäänselvyyksiä, jotka eivät ole sallittuja nykypäivän tutkijoille. Kuten sellaisia "vaarallisia" ajatuksia, että sukupuolia on vain kaksi: mies ja nainen, jotka tarvitsevat toisiaan, jos tahtovat lisääntyä.

Sitten yhteiskunta on rakennettu niin, että tuo vapaudet estävä kuona-aines kekkuloitsee siellä huipulla painostamassa sitä, ettei mitään totuutta paljastuisi mistään.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20008814/64-3-181572

QuoteSyntyvyys laskee Suomessa poikkeuksellisen lujaa

Syntyvyys on laskenut Suomessa lähes kolmanneksella reilussa kymmenessä vuodessa. Jo puolet 35 -vuotiaista miehistä ja 35 prosenttia samanikäisistä naisista on lapsettomia.

– Suomessa syntyvyyden lasku on jyrkempää kuin missään muualla Euroopassa, kertoo väestötieteen professori Marika Jalovaara Turun yliopistosta.

Lapsettomista vain 13 prosenttia on sitä omasta tahdostaan. Syitä lapsettomuuteen on monia: parisuhteiden lyhyt kesto, psyykkinen pahoinvointi, liika lykkääntyminen tai esimerkiksi työttömyys.

Agenda etenee.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.10.2023, 18:35:16
Quote from: https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1712094652457943067Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays

Wokeness is an addiction (I assume it comes with a dopamine reward) and the country hasn't hit bottom yet.

Things need to get much worse before the spell is broken and recovery is an option.

Buckle up. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.10.2023, 00:23:01
[tweet]1712219066281103584[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 18.10.2023, 12:05:58
QuoteScott Adams @ScottAdamsSays

"Colonizer" means you are marked for death.

QuoteCraig Chamberlin @CraigChamberlin

The goal of the modern Marxist is to hold all of modern civilization guilty for the bloody past it took to establish itself, not realizing that civilization was the cure, not the disease.

QuoteRichard Cheek @RichardCheek19

There are no colonizers any more.

The ppl born in a nation have every right to be there if legally born there, and those who migrate to a nation are not colonizers either.

'Colonizer' is an archaic term used almost exclusively by Marxist agitators.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 20.10.2023, 19:49:13
Punikkien aate on nykyään monoliittikommunismin sijaan monikärkistä ja maskeerattua ...

QuoteBriteissä puuhataan lakia joka voisi pakottaa transpronomien käyttöön – J. K. Rowling sanoo menevänsä vankilaan

Pop Media (https://www.msn.com/fi-fi/viihde/tv-ja-elokuvat/briteiss%C3%A4-puuhataan-lakia-joka-voisi-pakottaa-transpronomien-k%C3%A4ytt%C3%B6%C3%B6n-j-k-rowling-sanoo-menev%C3%A4ns%C3%A4-vankilaan/ar-AA1ixzRn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=EDGEDB&cvid=63723b612cb447588109f8723cefbae0&ei=15) 20.10.2023

Toivoisi pääsevänsä vankilan kirjastoon.

Britannian Labour-puolueessa puuhataan Daily Mail -lehden mukaan parhaillaan lakia, joka voisi lakia kritisoivien tahojen mukaan johtaa siihen, että trans- tai muunsukupuolisten pronominien tarkoituksellinen käyttämättä jättäminen olisi rikos. Tarkoituksellinen väärien pronominien käyttäminen voitaisiin Daily Mailin mukaan tulkita viharikokseksi, joka voisi johtaa vankeustuomioon.

Sateenkaari-ihmisten kanssa tukkanuottasilla pidempään ollut kirjailija J. K. Rowling sai mahdollisesti tietää lain puuhaamisesta sen jälkeen, kun hän julkaisi tiistaina sosiaalisen median palvelu X:ssä (entinen Twitter) kuvan, jossa oli iskulause: "Toista perässämme: transnaiset ovat naisia." Sen tekstikenttään Rowling oli kirjoittanut: "En."

Kirjailija sai eräältä kommentoijalta vastauksen, jossa viitattiin Daily Mail -lehdessä olleeseen artikkeliin, missä kerrottiin aiemmin mainitusta laista.

– Äänestä Labouria, saat kahden vuoden kakun, Rowlingille vastannut kirjoitti.

Vastauksena Rowling sanoi, että hän istuisi vankilatuomion.

– Istun mielelläni kaksi vuotta, jos vaihtoehtona on pakkopuhe, todellisuuden kieltäminen ja sukupuolen merkityksen kieltäminen, Rowling kirjoitti.
(...)

... tavoite on silti edelleen sama. Kaaoksen kautta proletariaatin nomenklatuuran diktatuuriin. Kurjuuden kautta paratiisiin, joka ei tosin koskaan realisoidu tavalliselle kansalle. Silti aatteen kaaderit marssivat edelleen sokeina perässä. Duunareita he eivät enää ole, joten pitää kaapia jo tynnyrin pohjia. Nämä jatkuvassa medianosteessa, moniosaajia myöten. Miksiköhän? Parhaat idiootit ja aatteen miehet löytyvät silti nykyään - kumma kyllä - yliopistoista ja akateemisista piireistä. Haaveilevatko sen kurjuuden perään, joka ei heidän elämässään ole vielä koskaan realisoitunut?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 23.10.2023, 13:57:51

HS 23.10.2023 (https://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000009941362.html)
QuoteNaisten joukkueen yhteis­kuvasta nousi suuri kohu

Arsenal tunnustaa sosiaalisessa mediassa esiin nostetun ongelman. "Ottaen huomioon, että kyseessä on lontoolainen seura, monimuotoisuuden puute on surullista nähtävää."

Kuvassa ei ollut yhtään, hm...  ennen sanottiin, että... tai antaa olla: "Kuvan kaikki 27 pelaajaa ovat valkoihoisia."

Quote"Ottaen huomioon, että kyseessä on lontoolainen seura, monimuotoisuuden puute on surullista nähtävää", yksi kommentoija sanoi Athleticin mukaan.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Charlie on 23.10.2023, 14:54:42
Hesarille pohdittavaa:

1) Hesari voisi katsoa NBA-joukkuekuvia saman Tikkurilan värikartan kanssa ja tutkia, toteutuuko ihonvärien monimuotoisuus Yhdysvaltojen rotujakauman mukaisin suhdeluvuin. Pohtia johtuuko se mustasta ylivallasta vai kenties siitä, että mustat on parempia koriksessa kuin muut. Jos syyksi ilmiölle päätellään musta ylivalta Amerikassa, harjoitus päättyy.

2) Tähän vaiheeseen voi siirtyä, kun on sisäistänyt, että tietyn väriset ihmiset voivat olla parempia jossain urheilulajissa. Hesari on vähän oikonut, kun on vertaillut naisten joukkuekuvaa Arsenalin miesten joukkuekuvaan ja havainnut eroavaisuuden. Mutta vaihe ei ole sillä suoritettu, vaan seuraavaksi tarvitsee tehdä sama vertailu Manchester Cityn, Liverpoolin ja muiden seurojen joukkuekuville. Sama ilmiö toistuu. Seuraavaksi voi tarkastelun laajentaa maajoukkueisiin: Englanti, Ranska, Italia, Saksa... Ilmiö toistuu. Lopuksi voi vertailla Huuhkajien ja Helmarien joukkuekuvia. "Sinäkin, Brutukseni", parahtaa nyt tiedostava Hesarin toimittaja, joka ei oo eläissään katsonut Helmarien matsia. Jos syyksi ilmiölle päätellään, että tummahipiäisempiä naisjalkapalloilijoita syrjitään kautta Euroopan, harjoitus päättyy.

3) Tähän vaiheeseen voi siirtyä, kun on sisäistänyt, ettei eurooppalaisessa jalkapallossa ole sellaista rasismiongelmaa, joka estäisi tummahipiäisiä naispelaajia pääsemästä joukkueisiin, jos taso riittää. Jolloin lopulta saavutaan olennaisen kysymyksen äärelle: miksi kehitysmaataustaiset pojat ovat hyviä jalkapallossa, mutta tytöt eivät? Jalkapalloilijan kykyihin vaikuttaa karkeasti kaksi asiaa: geenit ja harjoittelu. Jos syyksi päätellään geenit, sitten on selvästi pinnattu biologian tunneilta. Ja harjoitus päättyy.

4) Hesarin toimittajat ovat lopettaneet harjoituksen jo ajat sitten, mutta me muut voimme pohtia syitä, miksi kehitysmaatytöt eivät harjoittele jalkapalloa kuin pojat. Minä selitän asiaa kasvatuskulttuurilla, jossa kehitysmaalaiset tytöt säilötään visusti neljän seinän sisään viimeistään esiteini-iässä. Sellainen on kovin haitallista jalkapallotaitojen kehityksen kannalta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 24.10.2023, 23:53:22
Prominent doctor at the American Academy of Pediatrics proposes renaming penises 'outies', vaginas 'front holes' and clitorises 'd*cklets'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12662193/doctor-American-Academy-Pediatrics-renaming-penises-vaginas.html
Quote
A top pediatrician has called for child doctors to start calling the vagina a 'front hole' and the penis an 'outie.'

Dr Ilana Sherer, a pediatrician in Dublin, California,  gave a presentation Sunday at the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) National Conference and Exhibition and called for more gender neutral terminology for body parts.

Her proposals, given during a workshop entitled 'Discussing Gender and Sexuality in the Primary Care Office,' included referring to the vagina as an 'innie,' 'front hole,' or 'T-penis' and the clitoris as 'd*ck' or 'd*cklet.'

She also proposed calling breasts 'chest' or 'chesticles.' For male anatomy, Dr Sherer recommended pediatricians call the penis 'outie,' 'junk,' 'strapless,' or 'bits.'
...
Some in the medical community have been calling for gender-neutral body terminology for years, recommending 'upper body' for breasts, 'erectile tissue' for penis and 'internal gonads' for ovaries.

They argue it creates a more inclusive space for people who may not identify as one gender or sex and are not comfortable using gender-specific terminology.

But doctors have previously warned against politicizing medical language because it could confuse public health messaging, especially for people for whom English is not their first language.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 31.10.2023, 08:43:37
[tweet]1719238524707193074[/tweet]

QuoteExecutive Order on the Safe, Secure, and Trustworthy Development and Use of Artificial Intelligence (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2023/10/30/executive-order-on-the-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-development-and-use-of-artificial-intelligence/)
October 30, 2023
Ei ole kovin kummoinen tekoäly sen jälkeen kun siihen koodataan kaikki wokekultin pyhinä pitämät asiat. Joten tuskin kannattaa kehitellä AI:ä jenkkilässä tämän jälkeen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 31.10.2023, 08:59:31
Woken ainoa funktio on pitää kuvotuskasvainulosteet vallassa. Eli kun ihmiset vastustaa wokea pystyy eliitti vetämään vaparilla yhteiskuntia perseeseen, eikä siitä osata valittaa. Rahat vaan oudosti häviää Molokin kitaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 31.10.2023, 16:13:02
Quote from: qwerty on 31.10.2023, 08:43:37
Ei ole kovin kummoinen tekoäly sen jälkeen kun siihen koodataan kaikki wokekultin pyhinä pitämät asiat. Joten tuskin kannattaa kehitellä AI:ä jenkkilässä tämän jälkeen.

USA on ryssimässä armeijaansa hamemiehillä. Jos tämä executive order tulee jäämään lopullisesti voimaan, niin ei se ainakaan nykyistä maailmanjärjestystä vahvista.

Voisiko jokin ylivoimainen Open Source -ratkaisu nousta voittajaksi?

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Dougf43/status/1719331062696829151Doug Figgins @Dougf43

Great idea. Cripple the thing from the beginning so that when China runs out its version of AI, it will be able to 'win' without even breaking an electronic sweat.
My society is not only arguably dying. It's almost demanding that it be put out of its misery.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 02.11.2023, 11:12:31
Quote"Woke-kulttuuri on täyttä paskaa" – Liberaali kirjailijatähti John Irving ryöpyttää Avun haastattelussa Trumpin, Amerikan ja cancel-kulttuurin

[...]

Viime vuosina taiteen parissa on keskustelua paljon representaatioiden merkityksestä ja fiktion sisäisistä säännöistä. Siitä, kenellä on oikeus kirjoittaa kenenkin tarinoita. On puhuttu kulttuurillisesta omimisesta, wokeismista ja cancel-kulttuurista. Irving tuhahtaa. Sitten hän menettää kokonaan malttinsa.

Ajattelen, että ne ovat täyttä paskaa! Ne voivat minun puolestani imeä munaa. Okei? Sitä mieltä minä niistä olen. Menepä kertomaan Shakespearelle, mitä hän saa kuvitella. En hyväksy lainkaan sellaista taiteeseen kohdistuvaa totalitarismia. Sitähän se on. Haistakoot vitut!

Naps! Videopuhelu katkeaa äkisti. Ruutu pimenee. Seuraa puheluita ja tekstareita.

Tunnin päästä Irvingin kasvot palaavat ruudulle. Hän kertoo vihaavansa teknologiaa enemmän osaa sanoakaan.
Apu (https://www.apu.fi/artikkelit/woke-kulttuuri-taytta-paskaa-kirjailija-john-irving-sanoo) 28.10.2023

Siinäpä se.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: F1nka on 04.11.2023, 07:03:23
Kaiken kauhistelun jälkeen Sound of Freedom saapui Suomeen. Iltasanomien toimittajan mukaan elokuva on kohuaan parempi: https://www.is.fi/tv-ja-elokuvat/art-2000009962381.html (https://www.is.fi/tv-ja-elokuvat/art-2000009962381.html)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 04.11.2023, 07:56:26
Heikelä ja Koskela antavat toivoa siitä, että hulluuden aika alkaisi väistyä:

https://youtu.be/BbyQLatWzJ4?si=bCP20Gg0dOZCtb-0

Texasiin on tekeillä yksityisrahoitteinen yliopisto, jossa on tarkoitus tehdä tiedettä vasemmistolaisten woke-teorioiden sijaan. Rahoittajissa mm. Richard Dawkins.

Mielenkiintoista nähdä elämässään sekin päivä, että on hyvää sanottavaa Dawkinsista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 04.11.2023, 22:02:25
Vanhan polven liberaali, emeritusprofessori Jerry Coyne päivittelee "afrokemian" ilmestymistä amerikkalaiseen yliopistoon:

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/11/04/more-on-the-ideological-erosion-of-science/

Kurssin kuvausta (korostus minun):
QuoteAFROCHEMISTRY: The Study of Black-Life Matter (CHEM 125) is debuting this Spring '24. In this interdisciplinary course, students will explore the intersection of racial justice and chemistry. We will approach chemistry using a historical and contemporary African American lens in order to analyze science and its impact. In addition, we will be using chemical concepts to better understand Black life in the US. As we consider not only what science is being discovered, but also ask why, how and by whom, etc., this course will empower students to consider approaches to STEM that enhance community impact.

Kurssi hyväksytään osaksi AAAS-sivuopintoja (African and African-American studies (https://caaas.rice.edu/undergraduate-minor)), ei ilmeisesti kuitenkaan osaksi luonnontieteellisiä opintoja. Mutta kehitys tunnetusti kehittyy.

Proffa meinaa, että sarkasmi on tässä yhteydessä turhaa:
QuoteI thought about making a satirical version of the poster touting either "Latinochemistry" (actually, "Latinxchemistry") or "Judeochemistry", but it's not necessary. The announcement above doesn't need satire.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.11.2023, 22:14:14
Quote from: Siili on 04.11.2023, 22:02:25Vanhan polven liberaali, emeritusprofessori Jerry Coyne päivittelee "afrokemian" ilmestymistä amerikkalaiseen yliopistoon: https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/11/04/more-on-the-ideological-erosion-of-science/

QuoteIs it even possible now to keep ideology away from science, and to refrain for coopting science to advance your own personal "progressive" principles? Although students get credit for this in the AAAS minor at Rice (African and African-American studies), could one could get science credit as well? I hope not. Regardless, it pollutes science by conflating it with "progressive" activism.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 04.11.2023, 22:44:41
Tässä Amerikan kemian seuran (ACS) lehdessä Journal of Chemical Education julkaistu artikkeli, joka kertoo käytännöistä Itä-Carolinan yliopistossa (East Carolina University)

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/acs.jchemed.2c00293#

Tiivistelmästä:
QuoteThis article presents an argument on the importance of teaching science with a feminist framework and defines it by acknowledging that all knowledge is historically situated and is influenced by social power and politics.
QuoteThe student survey data analysis shows curiosity about the applicability of feminism in science and the development of critical race and gender consciousness and their interaction with science. We present this work as an example of a transformative pedagogical model to dismantle White supremacy in Chemistry.

Artikkeli kokonaisuudessaan ei ole kaikkien luettavissa, mutta eräs professori Coynen artikkelia (aikaisempi viestini) kommentoinut lukija (AnnaKrylov) on ilmesesti sen tehnyt ja kertoo sisällöstä seuraavaa:
QuoteThe course explores "the development and interrelationship between quantum mechanics, Marxist materialism, Afro-futurism/pessimism, and postcolonial nationalism." "To problematize time as a linear social construct," the paper says, "the Copenhagen interpretation of the collapse of wave-particle duality was utilized."

Pitääkö tämmöisiä kirjoittava väki itseään luonnontieteilijöinä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 11.11.2023, 08:48:32
Mustat ovat vain pelinappuloita, jotka palautetaan ruotuun, jos luulevat olevansa jotain muuta kuin rotunarratiivien ylläpitäjiä.

QuoteIdris Elba puhuu tänään tv:ssä itsestään vielä mustana näyttelijänä – Ei tee niin enää: Tässä syy

Idris Elba on kertonut haastatteluissa, että hänestä ei tullut näyttelijää, koska alalla ei ollut riittävästi monimuotoisuutta. Hän vain uskoi olevansa näyttelijänä hyvä.

[...]

Enää Elba ei viittaa itseensä mustana näyttelijänä. Kun hän kertoi päätöksestään aiemmin tänä vuonna, kohu oli valmis.

 Lopetin kuvailemasta itseäni mustaksi näyttelijäksi, kun tajusin, että se lokeroi minua. Meidän on kasvettava. Ei ole muuta vaihtoehtoa. Iho ei ole mitään muuta kuin vain iho. Vuodatus ohi, Elba perusteli Esquiren haastattelussa helmikuussa.

Vaikka Elba ilmoitti käyttäneensä oman puheenvuoronsa, muut vasta lämmittelivät. Sosiaalisessa mediassa reagoitiin nopeasti, kuten muun muassa Variety kertoi, ja kohu oli valmis. Elbaa syytettiin siitä, että hän kiistää oman tummaihoisuutensa. Elba ei ymmärtänyt moisia väitteitä alkuunsakaan. Hän vastasi höpöhöpöpuheisiin X:ssä (entisessä Twitterissä) huomauttamalla, että hän haluaa vain olla näyttelijä ilman etuliitteitä.

– Näyttelijä on ammatti siinä missä arkkitehtikin. Etnisyys ei määritä mitään. Mutta, jos joku toinen määrittää oman ammatti-identiteettinsä etnisyytensä kautta, se on hänen oikeutensa, Elba kirjoitti vapaasti suomennettuna.

Guardianin haastattelussa Elba vielä totesi, että yhtä lailla hänellä on oikeus päättää, miten hän itse itsensä määrittelee.

– Missä minä muka kiistin tummaihoisuuteni? Todella typerä väite.

Elba ei ole kiistänyt missään yhteydessä rasismin olemassaoloa eikä omaa etnisyyttään. Hän on syntynyt Lontoossa, mutta hänen vanhempiensa tausta on Sierra Leonessa ja Ghanassa.
Iltalehti (https://www.iltalehti.fi/tv-ja-leffat/a/9dcc5374-997f-4a09-8d11-4cf574caa0a2) 9.11.2023
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.11.2023, 00:44:34
Neekeri tulee sabotoimaan MIT:ssä matematiikan opetusta. Tämän on pakko tapahtua MITn johdon siunauksella.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 12.11.2023, 00:54:37
Quote
If you're so smart, why are you begging?

https://gab.com/Fourpeaks83/posts/111390025160646794

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 12.11.2023, 19:40:45
Quote from: Iris Elba
...Lopetin kuvailemasta itseäni mustaksi näyttelijäksi, kun tajusin, että se lokeroi minua. Meidän on kasvettava. Ei ole muuta vaihtoehtoa. Iho ei ole mitään muuta kuin vain iho.
Täytyy myöntää että arvostan Iris Elban asennetta ihonväriin, tuo on erittäin terve asenne itseään kohtaan, iho on todellakin vain iho, eikä sen värillä pitäisi olla kenelläkään mitään merkitystä, luulisi että kaikki Hyvät Ihmiset, ottavat tuon positiivisen asenteen ilolla vastaan ja tahtovat, että kaikki muutkin kokevat, ettei omalla tai kenenkään muun ihon värillä ole mitään todellista merkitystä.

Vain rasistit kokevat muiden ihon värin tärkeänä asiana.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 12.11.2023, 21:01:04
Miss Universum kauneuskilpailun omistanut yritys on mennyt konkkaan ilmeisesti liiallisen wokeilun takia:

https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2023/11/10/miss-universe-boss-files-for-bankruptcy-as-pageant-with-transgender-contestants-nears/

QuoteThe company that owns the Miss Universe pageant filed for bankruptcy Thursday, but its upcoming pageant will go on as planned.

JKN Global Group cited a "liquidity problem" regarding the issue, WION reported Friday.

In a statement on the company's website, JKN Global Group said it has a "strategic corporate financial management plan to cope with the current financial situation."

...

The company is led by transgender rights advocate Anne Jakrajutatip, who took over the pageant's brand in 2022.
...

In July, Breitbart News reported the Miss Universe leaders welcomed transgenders competing in the pageant. However, it was a requirement that those individuals must have undergone "gender-affirming" surgery in order to join.

Tämä Jakrajutatip on siis biologinen mies ja on ollut mukana tuomassa miehet Miss Universe kisoihin kilpailemaan naisten kanssa.

MU kisailijat ovat jo pitkään hyödyntäneet plastiikkakirurgiaa edistääkseen voittomahdollisuuksiaan koska MU:n säännöt eivät kiellä sitä. Aihe on kuitenkin aina ollut kiistanalainen ja keskustelua on pitkään käyty siitä pitäisikö leikkaukset kieltää eräänlaisena "dopingina".

Viimeistään nyt kun miehet ovat mukana kisoissa, koko leikkauskeskustelu voidaan lopettaa koska transut käyvät läpi massiivisia leikkauksia ja voivat samalla korjaa itsensä minkälaisiksi tahansa. Jatkossa luomu-naisilla tai vain vähän leikatuilla naisilla ei enää ole mitään asiaa näihin kisoihin ellei he ole syntyneet poikkeuksellisilla geeneillä, joilla tyylin yksi miljoonasta omaa.

Muistutettakoon myös, että Trumpin firma omisti Miss Universe kisat vielä 2015, jolloin oikeudet myytiin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Muhmutti on 15.11.2023, 15:30:37
https://archive.ph/eOs1V

Quote「心は女 なぜ入ってはいけないのか理解できない」 女性風呂に侵入疑いの男逮捕 三重

三重県警桑名署は13日、同県桑名市長島町にある温泉施設の女性風呂に入ったとして、建造物侵入の疑いで、愛知県春日井市押沢台の無職、島田隼人容疑者(43)を現行犯逮捕した。
逮捕容疑は、13日午後8時20分ごろ、女性風呂に正当な理由がないのに侵入したとしている。
同署によると、島田容疑者は女性風呂に入ったことは認めているが、「心が女なので、なぜ女子風呂に入ってはいけないのか全く理解できない」と供述しているという。
当時、入浴していた女性客がいた。温泉施設の支配人から「女性風呂に男性が侵入している」と110番があった。
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 15.11.2023, 16:14:25
Jätän tämän vaan tähän. Jos se ei kuulu tänne, niin saa siirtää sinne, minne kuuluu...   Mihin tuo muuten työnnetään?

"
Julkaistu 15.11.2023 14:30

Vuokkoset lanseeraa tamponin miehille. Yhtiö kertoo tiedotteessaan, että tarkoitus on auttaa vähentämään sukupuolidysforiaa.

Kuukautistuotteistaan tunnettu Vuokkoset lanseeraa miehille suunnatun tamponin. Suomalaisyhtiö kertoo haluavansa olla mukana keskustelussa hygieniatuotteiden sukupuolittuneisuudesta.

Pakkaus on brändätty perinteistä kuukautiskuvastoa vältellen. Itse tuote on samanlainen kuin perinteiset tamponit."



https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/suomalaisyritys-lanseeraa-tamponin-miehille/8819518#gs.0zmsb9
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JEV on 15.11.2023, 16:29:54
Quote from: P on 15.11.2023, 16:14:25
Jätän tämän vaan tähän. Jos se ei kuulu tänne, niin saa siirtää sinne, minne kuuluu...   Mihin tuo muuten työnnetään?

Vuokkoset lanseeraa tamponin miehille. Yhtiö kertoo tiedotteessaan, että tarkoitus on auttaa vähentämään sukupuolidysforiaa.

Pitääkö puhua sukupuolihysteriasta?  :facepalm:

Entä kuuluuko trans-seksuaalisuus ym. asiat tänne?

Ja tämä?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r3D9uULs9fM (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r3D9uULs9fM)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: KTM on 15.11.2023, 17:09:32
Itse asiassa tuo "terveen järjen ministeri" kuulostaa hyvältä idealta, tarvittaisiin varmaan Suomessakin.

QuoteRishi Sunakin sokkimuutokset kuohuttavat Britanniaa – Hallitukseen nimitettiin woke-vastainen "terveen järjen ministeri"

Oikeiston miellyttämiseksi Sunak toi hallitukseen Esther McVeyn, jonka toimenkuva on merkillinen "terveen järjen ministeri". Hän ilmeisesti antaa lausuntoja liian vasemmistolaisina pidettyjä, niin kutsuttuja woke-ajatuksia vastaan.

https://www.uusisuomi.fi/uutiset/rishi-sunakin-sokkimuutokset-kuohuttavat-britanniaa-hallitukseen-nimitettiin-woke-vastainen-terveen-jarjen-ministeri/5ae8adff-eef0-49ce-9c12-f5f8784e67e5
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 17.11.2023, 16:44:26
Quote from: KTM on 15.11.2023, 17:09:32
Itse asiassa tuo "terveen järjen ministeri" kuulostaa hyvältä idealta, tarvittaisiin varmaan Suomessakin.

QuoteRishi Sunakin sokkimuutokset kuohuttavat Britanniaa – Hallitukseen nimitettiin woke-vastainen "terveen järjen ministeri"

Oikeiston miellyttämiseksi Sunak toi hallitukseen Esther McVeyn, jonka toimenkuva on merkillinen "terveen järjen ministeri". Hän ilmeisesti antaa lausuntoja liian vasemmistolaisina pidettyjä, niin kutsuttuja woke-ajatuksia vastaan.

https://www.uusisuomi.fi/uutiset/rishi-sunakin-sokkimuutokset-kuohuttavat-britanniaa-hallitukseen-nimitettiin-woke-vastainen-terveen-jarjen-ministeri/5ae8adff-eef0-49ce-9c12-f5f8784e67e5


Monesti sanonut. Jos ei persuja olisi ollut olemassa kun lähdin politiikkaan, olisin perustanut "maalaisjärjen puolueen".

Sille voi olla vielä joskus tarvetta. Täytyy pitää takataskussa. Pitäisiköhän rekisteröidä nimi ettei kukaan vie?

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 01.12.2023, 06:26:30
Välikevennys 8)

Olikin vain ajan kysymys koska näille aletaan irvailemaan leffan muodossa.

Trailerin perusteella menee katselulistalle :) Kaippa tuo joskus löytyy muualtakin kuin DWP:sta.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.12.2023, 13:01:54
Kappas.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 05.12.2023, 09:38:51
Miesten tamponi ei ollutkaan maailmanmenestys:

Quote
Suomalainen tamponi tyrmättiin ulkomailla – mainos­kasvo äimistyi: "Surullista"

Miehille suunnatut tamponit herättivät tunteita.

https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010034123.html

Esimerkiksi feministit olivat hermostuneet tästä ainutlaatuisesta innovaatiosta, joka on kuulemma loukkaus naisia kohtaan.

Tätä woke- ja suvakkipiirien keskinäistä riitelyä on kyllä aina niin hauska seurata ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.12.2023, 09:44:58
Quote from: Betonikostaja on 05.12.2023, 09:38:51
QuoteMiehille suunnatut tamponit herättivät tunteita.
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010034123.html

Ja myös niiden puute sitä ennen herätti VALTAVIA tunteita.

QuoteSe oli ihan hirvittävää, kun piti mennä kaupassa osastolle, jossa ei ollut ketään minun näköisiä ihmisiä. Tunsin valtavaa häpeää ja ahdistusta päivittäin.

Lumihiutale.

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_(slang)"Snowflake" is a derogatory slang term for a person, implying that they have an inflated sense of uniqueness, an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or are overly emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.

Quote from: konekäännös"Lumihiutale" on halventava slangisana henkilölle, mikä tarkoittaa, että hänellä on liioiteltu ainutlaatuisuuden tunne, perusteeton oikeutuksen tunne tai hän on liian tunteellinen, loukkaantuu helposti eivätkä pysty käsittelemään vastakkaisia mielipiteitä.

Yleisiä käyttötapoja ovat termit "erityinen lumihiutale", "Generation Snowflake" ja "lumihiutale" politisoituna loukkauksena.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 05.12.2023, 11:18:53
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.12.2023, 09:44:58
Quote from: Betonikostaja on 05.12.2023, 09:38:51
QuoteMiehille suunnatut tamponit herättivät tunteita.
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010034123.html

Ja myös niiden puute sitä ennen herätti VALTAVIA tunteita.

QuoteSe oli ihan hirvittävää, kun piti mennä kaupassa osastolle, jossa ei ollut ketään minun näköisiä ihmisiä. Tunsin valtavaa häpeää ja ahdistusta päivittäin.

En vastusta sitä, että transut aikuisena pilaavat kehonsa ja tekevät itsestään klovneja ihmisten silmissä. Se on samanlainen vapaa valinta kun nämä, jotka lävistävät kasvonsa tai julistavat älykkyyttään värjäämällä hiukset vihreiksi tms.

Sitä vain en ymmärrä, että ensin tehdään itsestään pellejä ja sen jälkeen valitetaan että muut katsoo ja ihmettelee. Kyllä minuakin nolottaisi miehenä liikkua ulkona tyllerömekossa, suttuisella meikillä ja muovinen peruukki päässä, tai naisena teeskennellä miestä synnyttäjän lantiolla partahaivenet leuan alla kysymässä kaupasta tampponeja piipittävällä äänellä. Ihmiset reagoi luontaisesti poikkeamiin ja harva transu on niin vakuuttava, ettei heidän sekavaa mielentilaa huomaisi.

Mitä miestamppooneihin tulee niin Vuokkosten tempaus oli kaupallisesti täysin älyvapaa enkä ymmärrä millä logiikalla piti julkaista tuote, joka kysenaalaistaa 99,99% heidän asiakaskunnastaan. Miehenä minua myös ihmetyttää miksi tarjotaan tuote, jota yksikään mies ei tarvitse samalla kun se luo nolon mielikuvan, että jokainen mies saattaakin olla nainen. Vuokkoset kusi tempauksellaan käytännössä kaikkien silmille.

Vuokkosten markkinat olisi lähinnä Venäjällä, jossa paikataan ampumahaavoja tampponeilla. Miestamppooni saisi ryzzät tuntemaan itsensä miehekkäimmiksi eikä tarvitsisi salaa varastaa muijan tampoonit kun lähtee rintamalle ammuttavaksi.

Nyt olisi naisten aika boikotoida Vuokkoset samalla lailla kun miehet USA:ssa boikotoivat Bud-lightin. Miehet ostavat myös välillä vaimoilleen kuukautistarvikkeita kauppareissulla, joten hekin voivat jättää Vuokkoset hyllyyn. On aika toimia wokehulluuttaa vastaan ja jokainen voi tehdä valintoja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 05.12.2023, 12:28:08
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.12.2023, 09:44:58
QuoteSe oli ihan hirvittävää, kun piti mennä kaupassa osastolle, jossa ei ollut ketään minun näköisiä ihmisiä. Tunsin valtavaa häpeää ja ahdistusta päivittäin.

Kyllä niitä tamponeita ja naisten vaippoja (joita eufemistisesti kutsutaan myös terveyssiteiksi) ostavat miehetkin esimerkiksi naispuoleisille perheenjäsenille. Ja ainakin ruokakaupassani olisi melkoista liioittelua puhua jostain "osastosta", kun kyse ei ole kovinkaan monesta hyllymetristä pitkän hyllyn varrella.

Mielenkiintoisesti Jodelissa jotkut itsensä transsukupuoliseksi ilmoittaneista suhtautuivat varauksella tai suorastaan kielteisesti tällaiseen "miesten" tamponiin. Heistä sellainen pikemminkin saisi muut kiusallisesti huomaamaan sen, että he ovat transsukupuolisia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 05.12.2023, 12:57:57
Erittäin outoa aikuisen ihmisen tuntea jotain häpeää tamponi tms ostoksilla. Olen ostanut opastettuna näitä tuotteita perheen naisväelle ja luulen, että kaikissa perheissä missä jollakin kuukautisia, niin ostoslistassa on näitä tuotteita eikä erikseen pakoteta vaikkapa teinityttöä menemään kauppaan, kun iskää "hävettää" tms...
Kyllä on todella hauraita naismiehiä, jos näiden ostaminen vaikeaa. (Pitäisikin lisätä siihen FOR MEN tekstiin TAL CASES. > huumoria josta ei lgbtjne tule loukkaantua)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.12.2023, 19:40:54
Idiotti blm-kannattaja luulee olevansa kai vieläkin olevansa apinoiden puolella. Luultavasti äänestää edelleen demareita.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: skyuu on 05.12.2023, 20:53:49
Quote from: Caucasian on 05.12.2023, 12:57:57
Erittäin outoa aikuisen ihmisen tuntea jotain häpeää tamponi tms ostoksilla. Olen ostanut opastettuna näitä tuotteita perheen naisväelle ja luulen, että kaikissa perheissä missä jollakin kuukautisia, niin ostoslistassa on näitä tuotteita eikä erikseen pakoteta vaikkapa teinityttöä menemään kauppaan, kun iskää "hävettää" tms...
Kyllä on todella hauraita naismiehiä, jos näiden ostaminen vaikeaa. (Pitäisikin lisätä siihen FOR MEN tekstiin TAL CASES. > huumoria josta ei lgbtjne tule loukkaantua)
Niin... itseä hävetti kun olin naisten alusvaateostoksilla. Siis mummi oli pistänyt kauppalistan ja siinä oli "mummokalsarit" niin kyllähän se kaupan myyjä vähän katto pitkään. Mutta kun ihmisellä pitää olla vaatteet ja jos et pääse syystä tai toisesta kauppaan niin sitten laitat lapsen tai lapsenlapsen asialle.
Toisaalta kun kerran kävin Victorian Salaisuudessa ostamassa ystävänpäivälahjaa niin ei taas hävettänyt ollenkaan. Tamponeja/terveyssiteitä en ole ostanut.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 06.12.2023, 11:24:17
Belgiassa lyödään woketuksen ennätyksiä:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/belgians-reject-african-female-santa-claus

QuoteBelgians Reject African Female 'Santa Claus'

A city in Belgium has cancelled a scheduled Christmas event in which a black female 'Santa Claus' was set to reeducate attendees about "colonial ideology" and how "generations of Flemish people are racists."

The Telegraph reports that people in Ghent have pressured the mayor to call off the appearance of one Queen Nikkolah, a character created by artist Laura Nsengiyumva, who would have 'reworked' Christmas fables about Santa for children at the event.

The report claims that the character was set to be dressed in the colours of the Palestinian flag (for some reason) while handing out gifts to children.

Ahead of the event which was scheduled for Wednesday, Queen Nikkolah announced "I dream of a Belgium liberated from colonial ideology and a society without discrimination."

Conservatives in Belgium labelled the event "woker than woke," with Nadia Sminate, a vice-chairman of the Flemish parliament, warning that "Queen Nikkolah's initiative is actually saying that entire generations of Flemish people are racists."

The report also notes that anti-racism protesters in both Belgium and Holland are campaigning to put an end to traditional celebrations of St Nicholas Day on Dec 6 that usually feature 'Sinterklaas' accompanied by Zwarte Piet – or Black Pete – a black-faced boy with curled-hair and large, painted on red lips."

Hollannissa ja Belgiassa on perinteenä pitää joulupukin eli Sinterklaasin paraati kaupungin / kylän järjestämänä. Gentin kaupunki keksi kutsua mukaan myös "Queen Nikkolan", musta nainen, joka olisi ollut pukeutunut Palestiinan lipun väreihin ja saarnannut rasismista jakaessaan lahjoja lapsille.

Queen Nikkolah on fiktiivinen "inklusiivinen" hahmo, jonka ruandalainen taiteilija Laura Nsengiyumva oli keksinyt ( https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/05/belgian-character-queen-nikkolah-created-to-add-inclusivity-to-festive-season-dragged-into-row-sinterklaas ) vastapainoksi rasistiselle Sinterklaasille ja Zwarte Pietille. Nsengiyumva oli myös "uudistanut" lapsille tarkoitetut joulutarinat uusiksi, jotta (valkoiset) lapset ymmärtäisivät rasistisen painolastinsa.

Paikalliset veti herneen nenään ja pormestari päätti lopulta peruuttaa iloista rotuviestiä tuovan tapahtuman.

Kärsiiköhän Gentin kaupunginvaltuusto ( https://stad.gent/nl/over-gent-stadsbestuur/over-gent-stadsbestuur/de-gemeenteraad ) valkoisesta syyllisyydestä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.12.2023, 23:32:44
DEI = Die white man.

Tämä pyhä woke-kolminaisuus (Diversity-Inclusition-Equity) on pilannut Suomessakin lähes kaikkea mitä ajatella saattaa.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.12.2023, 07:57:53
Harwadin ex-pressan kommentointia sananvapaudesta wokeille ja -vapaudettomuudesta konservatiiveille.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.12.2023, 08:09:34
Wokesensuuria vastaan ja sananvapauden puolesta muutama sitaatti.
Quotescott @scott3836184675

Collection of Quotes on Freedom and Freedom of Speech

By Thomas Jefferson:
- "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- "Our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost."

By George Washington:
- "Liberty, when it begins to take root, is a plant of rapid growth."
- "If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter."

By John Adams:
- "Liberty cannot be preserved without general knowledge among the people."

By Benjamin Franklin:
- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

By Alexander Hamilton:
- "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

By James Madison:
- "The advancement and diffusion of knowledge is the only guardian of true liberty."

By Voltaire:
- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

By John Stuart Mill:
- "If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."

By Frederick Douglass:
- "To suppress free speech is a double wrong. It violates the rights of the hearer as well as those of the speaker."
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.12.2023, 16:02:22
Onko diktatuurien raha korruptoinut yliopistoja? | Heikelä & Koskelo 23 minuuttia | 785
https://youtu.be/-a8d6UupYc0?t=549

23-ohjelmassa todetaan, että USAn tärkeimpien yliopistojen rahoitus (13 miljardia!) tulee ulkomailta, #1 on Qutar (jossa Hamasin johto asuu suojeltuna). Eipä ihme, että ollaan islam-myönteisiä ja juutalaisvastaisia.

Ja sitten kun henkilökunta on vasemmistolaista > sananvapauden vastainen ilmapiiri > republikaanien cancelointia.

Onko wokelaiva vähitellen kääntymässä? Musk laittoi 40 miljardia sananvapauden vapauttamiseen ostamalla Twitter/X:n.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 12.12.2023, 16:15:22
Erityisesti ilahduttaa, että kun Purralta jossain tentissä kysyttiin tärkeintä arvoa, niin muiden höpistessä ihmisoikeuksista ja vastaavassa, niin Purra sanoi tärkeimmän olevan vapaus!
Isänmaallisuuden lisäksi persujen kannattaisi lisätä vapauden yhdeksi teemaksi. Sääntösuomi ja kaikenmaailman rajoittavat ja kontrolloivat lait alas!!!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.12.2023, 17:12:31
Koulutuksen arvostus USAssa laskenut koska woketus. Jopa CNN puhuu asiasta!

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.12.2023, 00:28:29
Suurensin ja tarkensin tuon vuokaavio, joka kertoo miten seunsuuri tapahtuu. (liite)

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QuoteMichael Shellenberger @shellenberger

Government-funded Stanford researchers said they didn't demand censorship, but they did. They even created this handy little graphic in a grant proposal. It shows how their disinformation "Incidents are routed to platform partners... for... takedowns"
@mtaibbi
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 15.12.2023, 05:48:10
Genocide is Free Speech According to Idiots
https://youtu.be/lgB0pQfVMps
QuoteThe presidents of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), Harvard and University of Pennsylvania (PENN) testified before Congress about hate speech on campus as it relates to the Israel-Hamas war. They all defended the right to call for a genocide of jews "under certain circumstances". In this episode of America Uncovered, we cover the backlash, the presidents' apologies, and why their sudden promotion of free speech rights is hypocritical.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.12.2023, 19:26:13
Elon Musk in Italy: "Please don't import the woke mind virus" from America: "It divides people."

https://twitter.com/i/status/1736045111446769889

Elon is educating people about the wokeism in the US and what it's all about. Notes from Elon on
Wokeism * Don't import the American woke mind virus
* Wokeism is divisive. It divides people and makes people hate each other.
* You want people to succeed on merit not on race, male/female etc.
* it's all about condemning people, not celebrating people
* wokeism is evil
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.12.2023, 11:17:23
Quote from: https://twitter.com/i/status/1736046593294655500
ELON MUSK: "Disney is deeply infected with the woke mind virus"

- Elon Musk: the woke mind virus is "arguably one of the biggest threats to modern civilization."
- Disney stock is down 60% as a result of their wokeness
- WOKE - Willingly Observing Known Evil
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 19.12.2023, 18:43:18
QuoteYhteiskuntaoppi on muutosherkin oppiaine kouluissa – uuden presidentin nimi saadaan oppikirjoihin ensi syksynä

Tarve päivittää koulujen oppimateriaaleja vaihtelee varsin paljon oppiaineesta riippuen.

Suomen suurimman oppimateriaalikustantajan Sanoma Pron yläkoulun liiketoimintapäällikkö Kirsi Vuorinen kertoo, että päivityslistan kärjessä on yhteiskuntaoppi.

– Esimerkiksi sote-ratkaisu ja uuden hallituksen tiedot on päivitetty tänä syksynä otettaviin uusiin painoksiin. Seuraavaksi vuorossa ovat presidentinvaalit, jotka myös päivitetään seuraavaan uuteen painokseen, Vuorinen toteaa.

Yhteiskuntaopin lisäksi esimerkiksi elämänkatsomustieto, uskonto, maantieto ja biologia ovat oppiaineita, joissa tietoja on aika ajoin päivitettävä.

– Esimerkiksi kartat saattavat vaatia uudistamista, kun maailmassa tapahtuu asioita, Vuorinen sanoo.

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– Käytännössä, kun muutostarve huomataan, asia otetaan listoille. Seuraavan uudistetun tai korjatun painoksen kanssa voi mennä kuitenkin aikaa jopa vuoden verran.

Sanoma Pron liiketoimintapäällikkö Kirsi Vuorinen ei muista sellaista tapahtumaa lähivuosilta, joka olisi aiheuttanut ison mullistuksen oppimateriaalien sisällössä.

Tavallaan sellaiseksi voi kuitenkin laskea tilanteen, jossa opetussuunnitelma muutetaan. Silloin kustantajat julkaisevat uuden opetussuunnitelman mukaisia uusia sarjoja sekä uudistuksia vanhoista sarjoista.
Yle (https://yle.fi/a/74-20065653) 19.12.2023

Kun faktat muuttuvat ajan myötä, päivitetään koulujen oppikirjat.

Kuulostaa järkevältä, mutta nettijutun oheinen tv-pätkä oli jotain aivan muuta. Se kuvasi, kuinka opettajat ovat helisemässä "valistuneiden oppilaiden" kanssa, jotka määrittelevät uusiksi esimerkiksi rasismin, islamin ja sukupuolet. Kun toimittaja totesi, että "esimerkiksi elämänkatsomustiedon opettaja joutuu päivittämään tietojaan jatkuvasti", koska "oppilas saattaa hallita itseään kiinnostavan aiheen yksityiskohdat opettajaa paremmin", ei kyse ollut faktoista vaan wokesta. Toimittaja Soila Ojanen esitti tästä esimerkkinä rasismin, jonka "tällainen random boomeri" saattaa luulla tarkoittavan apartheidia, mutta "nykyään se rasismi tai syrjintä" on "rodullistamista, piilorasismia, rakenteellista rasismia, [jotain]normatiivisuutta ja piiloaggressioita", kuten "nuoriso" jo tietää, minkä vuoksi "ihan tavallinenkin ihminen joutuu pitämään kielen keskellä suuta, kun juttelee nuorten kanssa tän tyyppisistä herkistä asioista".

Quote from: Yle
Toimittaja
Tuleeko sulla koskaan tunneilla semmoista tilannetta, että oppilaat tietää paremmin kuin sinä?

Elämänkatsomustiedon opettaja Ilkka Koivusalo Rauman Lyseon lukiosta
No, aika usein tulee semmoinen. Tämäkin teema [sukupuolet] on semmoinen, jossa mua on opetettu, vaikka mä olen lukenut sen kirjan kappaleen ja yrittänyt ymmärtää sitä, niin sitten tämmöiset valistuneet opiskelijat on kertoneet mitä...ja mä oon ittekin oppinut, et se on ollut ihan hyvä, ja se on heillekin tärkeää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 19.12.2023, 23:25:09
Paul Watson ottaa kantaa ns. kehopositiivisuuteen, feministinen / woke trendi, jonka puitteissa läski on kaunista, terveellistä ja ihanaa kaikin puolin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlJnBOOZw_Y

Videon kehopositiiviset influensserjulkkikset ovat kaikki kuolleet nuorena. Kuka olisi arvannut?!

Lihavuus on terveysongelma, josta hyvin moni suomalainenkin kärsii. Vasemmistoliberaalisen ja uusfeministisen diskurssin mukaan lihavuutta pitäisi kuitenkin juhlia "kehopositiivisuutena", jonka puitteissa omasta terveydestään ei tarvitse välittää. Transseksualismin tavoin moni onkin langennut woke lihavuusansaan ja tahallaan laiminlyönyt terveytensä ollakseen erikoinen ja trendikäs videon julkkisten tavoin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: tommeli on 21.12.2023, 19:53:31
THL aloittanut propagandakampanjan "Verkkokoulutus antirasismista ammattilaisille":
https://thl.fi/aiheet/maahanmuutto-ja-kulttuurinen-moninaisuus/tyon-tueksi/verkkokoulutus-antirasismista-ammattilaisille
Kampanjaan kuuluu aivopesuvideoita ja aivopesupowerpointteja. Höpistään kaiken maailman valkoisuusnormeista ja rakenteellisista rasismeista.
Käsitteistökin melko yksipuolista: https://thl.fi/aiheet/maahanmuutto-ja-kulttuurinen-moninaisuus/tyon-tueksi/kasitteet
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.12.2023, 04:25:56
Progressive Cities Really Hate White People
https://youtu.be/o3tZ-FM5hnU
QuoteBoston's Mayor Michelle Wu thought it would be fun to have a people of color Christmas party where only elected members of color could attend. In her mind, this was about having a good time with her "affinity group" and not in any way racist. In this episode of America Uncovered, we look at why so many found this offensive, why racism against whites is just as bad as racism against people of color, and how this goes back to the Marxist narrative of oppressed versus oppressor.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.12.2023, 11:47:50
Tarvitaan tervejärkinen woke-vapaa masai Keniasta selittämään Amerikan järkivapaalle moderni-liberaalille woke-mulatille, että mies ei voi olla nainen!  :D :D :D Jos mies haluaa olla nainen, niin päässä tai perheessä on jokin vialla. Ei voi olla non-binääri; miehellä on penis, naisella vagina. Masai-päälliköllä ei pokka pidä, kun hän kuuntelee länsimaisen miehen hulluja kysymyksiä.

Quote from: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20256528/What Is a Woman?
Political commentator Matt Walsh explores the changing concepts of sex and gender in the digital age, particularly the transgender rights movement, anti-transgender bigotry, and what it means to be a woman.

Tuossa leffassa tohtorisnaiset eivät osaa määritellä naista, mikä kertoo kaiken marxilaisesta sukupuolitutkimuksesta.

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QuoteLibs of TikTok @libsoftiktok
The idea of there just being 2 genders:  "man and woman" was invented by white people and is rooted in colonization
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 31.12.2023, 17:44:22
ChatGPT kertoo pyynnöstä juutalaisvitsejä, mutta kieltäytyy vitsailemasta muslimeista, koska se voidaan kokea loukkaavana:

https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2023/12/31/happy-new-year-from-the-hypocritical-chatgpt/

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 31.12.2023, 19:05:16
Muslimeista tai neekereistä Chat GPT ei vitsaile suurin surminkaan, mutta suomalaisista se vitsailee. Suomalaisvitsejä riittää, mutta ne ovat huonoja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jmk on 31.12.2023, 21:36:46
Kerro suomalaisvitsi.

Totta kai, tässä yksi suomalainen vitsi: Miksi suomalainen ei koskaan tee varaslähtöä? Koska hän pelkää, että joku huomaa ja kysyy, minne ollaan menossa.

Laitapa pari norjalaisvitsiä.

Tottakai, tässä pari norjalaisvitsiä: Miksi norjalainen ottaa aina vasemman kätensä taskuunsa? Koska siellä hänellä on kaikki, mitä hän tarvitsee. Miten norjalainen vastaa puhelimeen? "Halla! Kuka siellä? Ei täällä ole ketään."

Entäs pari vitsiä palestiinalaisista.

Pahoittelen, mutta en voi tuottaa tai levittää sisältöä, joka kohdistuu negatiivisesti tai loukkaavasti tietylle kansalle, uskontoryhmälle tai etniselle ryhmälle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kemolitor on 01.01.2024, 19:59:29
Ultra Bran laulajana, sittemmin säveltäjänä tunnetuksi tullut Olli Virtaperko ei enää tykkääkään edistyksellisyydestä:

Quote
Jos et ole meidän puolellamme olet meitä vastaan
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Taiteilijoiden ja taidepiirien moraalisäännösten halutaan olevan tiukemmat kuin heidän yleisönsä ja ympäröivän yhteiskunnan, ja tämän ajattelun suurimpia – ja ainoita – vaatijoita ovat taiteilijat itse, tarkemmin sanottuna heidän poliittisesti vihervasemmistolaisen identiteetti- ja blokkipolitiikan ytimeen asemoitunut taiderajat ylittävä äänekäs vähemmistönsä.

Taiteilijoiden vihervasemmistolaisen wokeismin siipi on palauttanut hyvän ja pahan sekä oikean ja väärän retoriikan taidepuheeseen. Se on tehnyt sen moralismia ja vihaa tihkuvalla tavalla, johon sosiaalisen median ihmisiä toisiaan vastaan ajava ja blokkeihin jakava algoritmitodellisuus on antanut oman kuorrutuksensa. Woke-taiteilijoiden "narratiivi" muistuttaa monilta osin puolen vuosisadan takaista moraalista esikuvaansa, taistolaisuutta. Molemmissa toteutuu selkeä hyvä ja paha -asetelma. Taiteen tärkein tehtävä on ideologinen, sen tulee edistää oman identiteettipolitiikan mukaisia yhteiskunnallisia ja poliittisia tavoitteita, ja kaikki sellainen taide, joka ei priorisoi poliittista agendaa taiteellisen agendan edelle näyttäytyy pahana – ei siis vain "huonona taiteena " vaan nimenomaan "pahana taiteena" sanan moraalis-eettisessä merkityksessä.

Kommunismin ideologisena työrukkasena toimineiden taistolaistaiteilijoiden perintönä muistamme sloganin "jos et ole meidän puolellamme olet meitä vastaan" – tämä ajattelu välittyy voimakkaana myös taistolaisuuden 2020-luvun reinkarnaatiosta.  Pyrkimyksenä on luoda mahdollisimman voimakas konflikti ympäröivän todellisuuden kanssa, ja varsinkin niiden yhteisistä resursseista kamppailevien reppanoiden kanssataiteilijoiden kanssa, jotka lähtökohtaisesti pyrkivät välttämään kaikenlaisia konflikteja ja haluavat vain keskittyä omaan taiteelliseen työhönsä. Nimenomaan tämä puolustautumishaluttomien ja -kyvyttömien nössökkä-taiteilijoiden enemmistön itseensä käpertyvä pelokas hiljaisuus palvelee woke-taiteilijan pyrkimyksiä maksimaalisesti mahdollistaen heidän vapaan ja vastavoimattoman temmeltämisensä mediassa ja taidekeskustelun ytimessä. Tämä strategia toimi hyvin 1970-luvulla, ja se näkyy toimivan myös tänä päivänä.
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Koko juttu:
Rondo (Olli Virtaperko): Jos et ole meidän puolellamme olet meitä vastaan (https://rondo.fi/kolumnit/olli_virtaperko/jos-et-ole-meidan-puolellamme-olet-meita-vastaan/)

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 02.01.2024, 21:59:53
ha haa.

https://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000010094231.html

QuoteHARVARDIN yliopiston rehtori Claudine Gay eroaa oltuaan toimessa vain kuusi kuukautta ja kaksi päivää. Asiasta kertoi ensimmäisenä yliopiston opiskelijalehti The Harvard Crimson ja sen jälkeen useat yhdysvaltalaiset tiedotusvälineet.

"En päätynyt tähän päätökseen helposti. Toden totta, tämä on sanoinkuvaamattoman vaikeaa, sillä olen odottanut työskentelyä kanssanne edistääkseni sitoutumista akateemiseen erinomaisuuteen, joka on ajanut tätä mahtavaa yliopistoa eteenpäin vuosisatojen ajan", Gay kertoi kirjeessään yliopistoyhteisölle.

Gay on Harvardin historian ensimmäinen musta rehtori ja toinen naisrehtori. Uutistoimisto AFP:n mukaan Gay kertoi tiistaina, että eroon vaikuttivat sekä hänen saamansa uhkaukset että "rotuviha".

Neekeri siis pitää rotuvihaa syynä. Todellisuudessa asiaan saattoi vaikuttaa ettei ämmä voinut myöntää että juutalaisille holokaustin tarjoaminen täyttää kiusaamisen ja häirinnän tunnusmerkit.

Plagiointisyytöksetkin taisivat olla miinusmerkkinen juttu.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Urban Moving Systems on 03.01.2024, 18:39:35
Quote from: Jorma M. on 02.01.2024, 21:59:53
ha haa.

https://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000010094231.html

QuoteHARVARDIN yliopiston rehtori Claudine Gay eroaa oltuaan toimessa vain kuusi kuukautta ja kaksi päivää. Asiasta kertoi ensimmäisenä yliopiston opiskelijalehti The Harvard Crimson ja sen jälkeen useat yhdysvaltalaiset tiedotusvälineet.

"En päätynyt tähän päätökseen helposti. Toden totta, tämä on sanoinkuvaamattoman vaikeaa, sillä olen odottanut työskentelyä kanssanne edistääkseni sitoutumista akateemiseen erinomaisuuteen, joka on ajanut tätä mahtavaa yliopistoa eteenpäin vuosisatojen ajan", Gay kertoi kirjeessään yliopistoyhteisölle.

Gay on Harvardin historian ensimmäinen musta rehtori ja toinen naisrehtori. Uutistoimisto AFP:n mukaan Gay kertoi tiistaina, että eroon vaikuttivat sekä hänen saamansa uhkaukset että "rotuviha".

Neekeri siis pitää rotuvihaa syynä. Todellisuudessa asiaan saattoi vaikuttaa ettei ämmä voinut myöntää että juutalaisille holokaustin tarjoaminen täyttää kiusaamisen ja häirinnän tunnusmerkit.

Plagiointisyytöksetkin taisivat olla miinusmerkkinen juttu.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.01.2024, 19:08:12
'You know the thing that people hate? Let's do more of that." - Disney
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 03.01.2024, 19:16:46
Quote from: Jorma M. on 02.01.2024, 21:59:53
Neekeri siis pitää rotuvihaa syynä. Todellisuudessa asiaan saattoi vaikuttaa ettei ämmä voinut myöntää että juutalaisille holokaustin tarjoaminen täyttää kiusaamisen ja häirinnän tunnusmerkit.

Plagiointisyytöksetkin taisivat olla miinusmerkkinen juttu.

Ylen mukaan (https://yle.fi/a/74-20067571) Gaylle oli kohtalokasta sitoutuminen sananvapauteen ja erilaisten mielipiteiden kunnioittamiseen.

Quote from: YleYhdysvaltain opetusministeriö on käynnistänyt lukuisia opinahjoja vastaan tutkimuksen siitä, miten ne ovat opiskelijakuohuntaan reagoineet. Yksi näistä on Gayn johtama Harvardin yliopisto. Tutkimukset perustuvat lakiin, joka kieltää syrjinnän ministeriöltä rahoitusta saavissa organisaatioissa.

[...]

Gayn kohtaloksi koitui osittain ominaisuus, josta yliopistolehti häntä valinnan aikoihin ylisti: vankka sitoutuminen ilmaisunvapauteen sekä erilaisten näkemysten kunnioittaminen yliopistoyhteisön elinehtona.

Gay kieltäytyi rankaisemasta opiskelijoita, jotka Gazan sodan puhjettua protestoivat Israelia vastaan. Arvostelijoiden mielestä protestit olivat juutalaisvastaisia ja saivat juutalaisopiskelijat pelkäämään.

[...]

Kuusituntisessa kuulemisessa Gay pyrki edelleen puolustamaan sananvapautta. Katastrofiksi hänen kannaltaan kääntyi kuitenkin hetki, jolloin edustajainhuoneen republikaanijäsen Elise Stefanik kysyi Gaylta hypoteettisesti, onko juutalaisten kansanmurhaan kehottaminen Harvardin sääntöjen mukaan kiusaamista ja häirintää.

Gay vastasi: Se voi olla, asiayhteydestä riippuen.

Todellisuudessa Gayn suhtautuminen sananvapauteen on ollut hyvin valikoivaa (https://nypost.com/2023/12/11/opinion/harvards-claudine-gay-uses-free-speech-as-a-defense-after-a-history-of-squelching-it/). Joillekin ihmisille ja näkökulmille se suodaan, joillekin ei.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 03.01.2024, 19:43:49
Aivan mahtavaa, että vasemmistolainen rasistinen neekeriämmä sai kenkää. Se jos mikä on tasa-arvoa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Niobium on 03.01.2024, 20:03:48
^ Niinpä, on olemassa tasa-arvoa ja "tasa-arvoa."

Eiköhän tästäkin ulina nouse.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Titus on 04.01.2024, 00:23:56
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.01.2024, 19:08:12
'You know the thing that people hate? Let's do more of that." - Disney

miespääosaa ( = elokuvan pahis ) on ajateltu "liian vanha bondiksi koska neekeri"-idris elbaa:

QuoteTHOR Actor Idris Elba Rumored To Be In Line For Villain Role In Rey-Focused STAR WARS Movie

QuoteDuring Star Wars Celebration earlier this year, we learned that Daisy Ridley will reprise her sequel trilogy role as Rey for director Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy's untitled Star Wars movie, which will be set a whole fifteen years after the events of The Rise of Skywalker.

https://comicbookmovie.com/sci_fi/star-wars/thor-actor-idris-elba-rumored-to-be-in-line-for-villain-role-in-rey-focused-star-wars-movie-a203737

mikä kertakaikkiaan voisi mennä vikaan ? juoni ollee, että nämä itseoppineet jedilesbot kehittävät jedihomman ja sitten aikahypätään ihan ensimmäisen SW leffan alkuun ja kaikki mitä siitä seuraa on vain ja ainoastaan jedilesbojen ansiota...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 04.01.2024, 12:27:53
Olen ajatellut woke-sanan olevan sellainen, että vain pieni äärivasemmistolaisten joukko olisi halukas käyttämään sitä itsestään. Vihervassareiden pääjoukko, koulutetut kaupunkilaiset, välttäisivät sanaa vaikka kannattavatkin tai ainakin ymmärtävät sukupuolisekoilua yms. Olen joko erehtynyt tai sitten (suomenruotsalainen) professori Alf Rehn on todella pelottava hahmo.

Bonuksena muusikko Jufo Peltomaan Rehnin ketjuun laittama kommentti, jonka perusteella kansa jakautuun wokeen ja persuihin.Kuinkas muutenkaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.01.2024, 12:45:21
Quote from: Bona on 04.01.2024, 12:27:53
Olen ajatellut woke-sanan olevan sellainen, että vain pieni äärivasemmistolaisten joukko olisi halukas käyttämään sitä itsestään. Vihervassareiden pääjoukko, koulutetut kaupunkilaiset, välttäisivät sanaa vaikka kannattavatkin tai ainakin ymmärtävät sukupuolisekoilua yms.

Olen ollut samassa ajatuksessa. Ja olen kyllä edelleenkin.  :P
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 04.01.2024, 13:05:23
Woke on muuttunut haukkumasanaksi. Woket ihmiset eivät enää itseänsä sillä sanalla kutsu. Vähän sama kuin hihhuli ei ole omasta mielestään hihhuli.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 04.01.2024, 13:44:36
Quote from: -PPT- on 04.01.2024, 13:05:23
Woke on muuttunut haukkumasanaksi. Woket ihmiset eivät enää itseänsä sillä sanalla kutsu. Vähän sama kuin hihhuli ei ole omasta mielestään hihhuli.

Minä olen hihhuli omasta ja muiden mielestä, sama se mulle millä nimellä Jeesukseen uskovaa ihmistä nimitätte.
Wokeilla tosin voi olla eri näkemys omasta nimityksestään. Ei niillä toisaalta tuo uskonsa kohdekaan kovin kummoinen ja vahva ole.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.01.2024, 15:10:20
Tämä USAn presidenttiehdokas Vivek on kuulkaas aikas kova luu! Silkkaa asiaa nopeaan tahtiin niin että rasismia sönköttävä toimittajatar ei pääse keskyttämään, ja sitten vielä suora hyökkäys toimittajattaren ammattikuntaa kohtaan! Säkillinen jauhoja lässyttäjän leipäläpeen, toimittajatar kanveesiin! Hahaha! :D

Hänestä voisivat ottaa mallia persutkin, @Matias Turkkila ?

Quote"I'm not gonna recite some catechism for you. Not pledging allegiance to your new religion of modern wokeism. Not gonna bend the knee, I'm sorry. Do I condemn vicious racial discrimination? Yes I do. Am I gonna play your silly game of gotcha? No I'm not"

"You people have been responsible for dividing this country to a breaking point... Shame on you. Look people in the eye and own the accountability for your failures as the media. That's how we rebuild trust in this country."

"You wanna know what the best way to stop discrimination based on race is?
Stop discriminating on the basis of race."

Quote"En aio siteerata sinulle katekismustasi. En vanno uskollisuutta uudelle modernin wokeismin uskonnollesi. Enkä polvistu, sori nyt vaan. Tuomitsenko julman rotusyrjinnän? Kyllä vain. Pelaanko typerää "sainpas sinut kiinni rasismista"-peliäsi? Ei, en pelaa."

"Te ihmiset olette olleet vastuussa tämän maan jakamisesta murtumispisteeseen... Hävelkää! Katso ihmisiä silmiin ja ota vastuu epäonnistumisistasi mediana. Sillä tavoin rakennamme uudelleen luottamusta tähän maahan."

"Haluatko tietää, mikä on paras tapa lopettaa rotuun perustuva syrjintä?
Lopeta rodun perusteella syrjiminen."

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QuoteThe Realest Realist @ProGunMemes

'Infamous brown white supremacist mansplains to innocent hero journalist'
;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 09.01.2024, 13:01:35
"Everything woke turns to 💩."

Quote from: konekäännösBlackrock irtisanoo 600 työntekijää, joista suurin osa kuuluu ESG-divisioonaan.

ESG:n maailmanlaajuiset sijoitukset romahtivat 5 biljoonalla dollarilla vain kahdessa vuodessa.

ESG on Blackrockin ja Vanguardin käyttämä järjestelmä kiristääkseen yrityksiä ottamaan käyttöön woke-käytäntöjä.

Tässä BlackRockin toimitusjohtaja Larry Fink (AmExin toimitusjohtajan vieressä) selittää, kuinka ESG:tä käytetään "käyttäytymisen pakottamiseen"

Quote from: https://www.nordea.com/fi/uutiset/mika-on-esgESG – ympäristö, yhteiskuntavastuu ja hyvä hallintotapa

ESG on lyhenne englannin kielen sanoista Environmental, Social ja Governance. Sillä tarkoitetaan ympäristöön, yhteiskuntavastuuseen ja hallintotapaan liittyviä asioita. Näistä puhutaan usein myös vastuullisuutena. Liike-elämässä vastuullisuus näkyy yrityksen liiketoimintamallissa eli siinä, miten sen tuotteet ja palvelut tukevat kestävää kehitystä.

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Heh!
QuoteCaballero 🏹 @HughAkston0

You know the economy is bad when Satan has to start laying off employees.

QuoteRight Angle News Network@Rightanglenews

The collapse of global ESG investments by $5 trillion in just 2 years shows that companies are no longer being manipulated into adopting woke practices through this system. It is reassuring to see that businesses are no longer being coerced and can make their own decisions based on market forces rather than external pressures.

QuoteRepublic Review @RepubReview

ESG, DEI, and CRT programs are collapsing all over the world, now let's finish them off.

QuoteMorgana Le Faye *Patriot *America 1st* 🇺🇸 @Keltic_Witch

Blackrock is a monopoly being allowed to break all monopoly laws.
The company needs to be broken up and dismantled.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 09.01.2024, 13:36:20
Quote from: https://twitter.com/GadSaad/status/1744529343273926797Elon Musk liked
Gad Saad @GadSaad

Here is how the typical schedule at a university looks like under the cancer known as DIE:

9:00-10:00:  Seminar on how to decolonize your curriculum.

10:00-11:00:  Seminar on how to be a better ally to transgender individuals of color.

11:00-12:00: Mandatory class on systems of intersectional oppression.

12:00-1:00: Segregated lunch is served.  Customers of color receive a discount for reparations.

1:00-2:00:  Seminar series of color to explore why white mathematics has promulgated white supremacy.

2:00-3:00:  Is the scientific method racist? 

3:00-4:00: Was Darwin a black man? 

4:00-5:00: March of peace to eradicate the state of Israel.

5:00-midnight:  If you are white and heterosexual, write an essay apologizing for your existence.

But you know, DIE is good because progressive.

Jan 9, 2024

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.01.2024, 16:51:34
Quote from: https://twitter.com/AnterXYasa/status/1744819937141465322Anter 𝕏 Yaşa @AnterXYasa

Saamelaisia ei saa esittää maalauksessa, mutta stereotyyppisen hijabipäisen alistetun kotiorja-musliminaisen voi piirtää tekoperinne vege-"arabi"-ruuan pakkaukseen?

Tämä koko "woke"-paska on oikeasti vain islamisaatiota.

Ei saa puhua, omaksua, tehdä, olla tai puhua mistään muusta positiivisesti kuin islamista. Sitä "woke" on - samankaltainen ajatusvirus kuin islam, ja tietenkin sen kanssa ystävä. Saman tietämättömyyden, kollektivismin ja lauma-ajatuksen luoma vinoutuma psyykessä.

Ja sitä pusketaan kaikista tuuteista jokaiselle länsimaalaiselle hyvin suunnitelmallisesti, sekä hyödyllisten idioottien avulla. Ette tajua minkälaisessa disinformaatio, aivopesu ja ohjelmointiryöpytyksessä olette olleet viimeiset 10 vuotta.

10:34 PM · Jan 9, 2024
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.01.2024, 22:56:28
Meritokratia-Musk väittelee woke-Cubania vastaan, kunnes Gad Saad tulee näyttää taivaan merkit.  Osa 1/2.

Konekäännös. Linkkejä lausuntoihin alkuperäisartikkelissa.

Ja mitä itse asiaan tulee, haluatko itse lentokoneesi lentäjiksi ammattitaitoisiksi todettuja pilotteja, vai niitä jotka ovat päässeet ammattiin vain koska ovat wokesti oikeaa rotua ja sukupuolta?

Quote from: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/where-meritocracy-goes-die-dei-racist-bigoted-collective-punishment"Minne meritokratia menee kuolemaan" - DEI on "rasistinen, kiihkoileva, kollektiivinen rangaistus"

Tyler Durden | 9.1.2024

Jos et vielä tiedä, niin DEI:n (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) -käytäntöjen aihe on äskettäin palannut mieleen, kun kaksi miljardööriä taistelee julkisesti yritysten DEI-ponnistelujen hyödyistä (tai haitoista).

Mark Cuban (taistelee hyvettä ilmaisevasta pro-DEI-kulmasta) ei pitänyt Elon Muskin (meritokratian puolesta, DEI:n vastaisen) kritiikistä United Airlinesin lentäjäkoulutusakatemian asettamia monimuotoisuustavoitteita kohtaan. Lentoyhtiö halusi, että sen akatemiassa olisi " 50% opiskelijoista, jotka ovat naisia ja/tai värillisiä ".

Musk  kirjoitti  X:ään:

"Lentoyhtiöt eivät löydä tarpeeksi päteviä lentäjiä edes ilman järjettömiä DEI-vaatimuksia!"

Cuban vastasi:

"Kun he valmistuvat, on monivuotinen prosessi saada MAHDOLLISUUS pilotoida Unitedissa."

"Koska olen mukava kaveri ja haluan sinun olevan täysin perillä, jaan kanssasi sen 60 sekunnin edun, jonka käytin ohjelman toiminnan etsimiseen. BTW, näyttää useilta ansioihin perustuvilta arvioinneilta ennen kuin ne tehdään. voi lentää Unitedille...", Cuban jatkoi liittäessään linkin  akatemian  verkkosivuille.

Musk ei ollut vaikuttunut ja vastasi toiselle käyttäjälle X:ssä, että:

"Mark Cuban on rasisti."

Lisätään (melko humoristisesti), että "ainoa tapa todistaa, ettei hän ole rasisti JA seksisti, on laittaa aasialainen nainen ja valkoinen nainen koripallojoukkueeseensa!" toistaa ehdotuksensa  Cubanin (entiselle) NBA-joukkueelle Dallas Mavericksille.

DEI:stä on tullut suuri kiistakohta yritysjohtajien, kuten Muskin ja Cubanin, keskuudessa.

Toinen miljardööri, joka näyttää äskettäin heränneen - hedge-rahastojen hoitaja Bill Ackman - kiinnitti huomiota käytäntöön viime viikolla  sanoen,  että DEI oli "rasistinen, koska käänteinen rasismi on rasismia".

Musk oli samaa mieltä Ackmanin kanssa ja kutsui DEI:tä "vain toiseksi sanaksi rasismille".

Cuban toisaalta katsoi, että Musk jätti  huomiotta DEI:n edut .

"Et ehkä ole samaa mieltä, mutta pidän sen itsestäänselvyytenä, että on olemassa ihmisiä eri roduista, etnisistä ryhmistä, suuntautumisesta jne., jotka on säännöllisesti jätetty palkkaamisen ulkopuolelle", Cuban kirjoitti sarjassa  X:n viesteissä.

Juuri tässä vaiheessa Gad Saad, kuuluisa kirjailija ja evoluutiopsykologian asiantuntija, hyppäsi taisteluun vapauttaakseen sarjan totuuspommeja X:lle :

"Olen nähnyt joidenkin ihmisten (esim. @mcuban) puolustavan hyveitä joissakin tapauksissa DIE:n periaatteissa (monimuotoisuus, osallisuus ja tasa-arvo). DIE:n eetoksessa ei ole mitään kiitettävää. Ne, jotka tukevat DIE:tä, käyttävät consequentialismia  [tekoa arvioidaan sen seurausten perusteella ] oikeuttamaan muuten deontologisen [velvollisuusetiikka] rikkomuksen."

Saad huomauttaa, että hän on vuosikymmeniä selittänyt seuraavaa:

"Jos on systeemisiä esteitä, jotka estävät joidenkin ryhmien kukoistamisen (sananlaskun mukainen mahdollisuuksien tasa-arvo), taistele kaikin keinoin lujasti tällaisten esteiden poistamiseksi.

Mutta DIE ei koskaan toimi tässä hengessä. Se olettaa aina, että tulosten epätasa-arvoisuuden täytyy johtua systeemisestä kiihkoilusta , ja siksi "jaloiden ihmisten" on puututtava ongelman korjaamiseen (toteuttamalla muutoin "korjaavia anti-ennakkoluuloisia" toimenpiteitä)
.

Akateeminen maailma on täynnä DIE:tä kaikilla tasoilla, ja se on frontaalinen ja kohtalokas hyökkäys meritokraattista eetosta vastaan, joka muokkaa tieteellistä ja akateemista huippuosaamista.

DIE:ssä ei ole mitään jaloa, kiitettävää, oikeudenmukaista tai oikeudenmukaista. Joko uskot meritokratiaan tai et. DIE on paikka, jonne meritokratia kuolee."


Kirjoittaja korostaa sitten farssia todellisessa maailmassa:

"Olen aiemmin keskustellut Yhdysvaltojen hallituksen tiedoista, jotka osoittavat, että kaikilla koulutustasoilla (ammattilainen, kandidaatti, maisteri ja tohtorin tutkinto) ja viidellä rodulla naisia on enemmän kuin miehiä JOKAISSA 20 solusta. Ja kuitenkin, kuolevat byrokratiat jatkamme "korjaavien" ohjelmien ajamista, joiden tarkoituksena on suojella naisia amerikkalaisissa ja kanadalaisissa yliopistoissa, aivan kuin olisimme Waziristanissa.

Professoreja palkataan tai ylennetään heidän ihonvärinsä tai sukupuolisuuntautuneensa perusteella. Juuri DIE sallii tällaisten yksilön arvokkuuksien loukkaamisen.

Kuvittele, että 2000-luvulla yliopistot julkaisevat AVOIMESTI työpaikkailmoituksia, jotka rajoittavat hakemusvalikoiman tietyn ihonsävyisiin ihmisiin.

Voi, ei ole tarpeeksi transsukupuolisia alkuperäiskansojen värillisiä naisia, jotka ovat puhtaan matematiikan täysprofessoreita, no sitten meidän on pantava täytäntöön DIE:n politiikka, jotta tällaiset yksilöt voivat kukoistaa. Näin saat Claudine Gayn maailman.

Voi, Brownin yliopistolla ei ole täysväristä transsukupuolista professoria, selvästikin tämän täytyy johtua kiihkoilusta, päästäkää DIE-talibanit valloilleen. 

Voi, Wellesley Collegessa ei ole ei-binääristä värin neurotieteilijää, tämän täytyy selvästikin johtua kiihkoilusta, päästäkää DIE-talibanit valloilleen.

Voi, ei ainuttakaan panseksuaalista värimaailman klassistia Princetonissa, tämän täytyy selvästikin johtua kiihkoilusta, vapauta DIE Taliban."

Saad lisäsi vielä tämän:
Here is how the typical schedule at a university looks like under the cancer known as DIE:

Quote9:00-10:00:  Seminar on how to decolonize your curriculum.
10:00-11:00:  Seminar on how to be a better ally to transgender individuals of color.
11:00-12:00: Mandatory class on systems of intersectional oppression.
12:00-1:00: Segregated lunch is served.  Customers of color receive a discount for reparations.
1:00-2:00:  Seminar series of color to explore why white mathematics has promulgated white supremacy.
2:00-3:00:  Is the scientific method racist? 
3:00-4:00: Was Darwin a black man? 
4:00-5:00: March of peace to eradicate the state of Israel.
5:00-midnight:  If you are white and heterosexual, write an essay apologizing for your existence.

But you know, DIE is good because progressive.

Jatkuu seuraavassa viestissä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.01.2024, 23:14:13
Jatkoa edelliseeen.

Meritokratia-Musk väittelee woke-Cubania vastaan, kunnes Gad Saad tulee näyttää taivaan merkit.  Osa 2/2

Ei konekäännöstä.

QuoteThis is allowed, Saad explains, because of "past historical grievances."

"No! You do not address past grievances by committing the exact same bigotry albeit on a new class of "acceptable" people. Oh you are white and heterosexual AND male, sorry asshole, no professorship for you."

Saad even wrote a book on the 'parasitic mind virus' that is killing common sense:

QuoteIf you really wish to see a spicy critique of DIE, please read my 2020 book The Parasitic Mind.  It is the mind vaccine against all of the idea pathogens that have been destroying the West.

"I've explained on countless occasions the distinction between deontological and consequentialist ethics and how the inability to know which principles are deontological causes minds to be parasitized.

DIE is a violation of deontological principles.

There is no "I believe in free speech but not for Donald Trump" or "I believe in the presumption of innocence but not for Brett Kavanaugh" or "I believe journalistic integrity but not when it comes to Hunter Biden's laptop."

Similarly, you cannot be for the meritocratic ethos and be for DIE.  This is akin to being a pregnant virgin."

In summary, Saad pulls no punches:

"DIE is grotesque. 
DIE is cancer. 
DIE is racism. 
DIE is bigotry. 
DIE is non-meritocratic. 
DIE kills innovation. 
DIE kills excellence. 
DIE is collectivist punishment.
DIE is Ebola.

DIE is an affront to individual dignity. There is nothing redeemable about this racist ethos that masquerades as progressive social justice."


Musk agreed (humorously): Saad, but very true
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.01.2024, 01:15:17
Quote from: https://twitter.com/MatiasTurkkila/status/1745586334134091987Matias Turkkila @MatiasTurkkila

Vasemmiston logiikkaa tai woke-kehikkoa ei voi mallintaa insinööritermein, sillä sen muoto on täysin erilainen ja fluidi.

Woken keskeisiä komponentteja:

A) Syvän päädyn woke-vasemmistolle ASIOILLA ei loppujen lopuksi ole väliä. Se riehuu välillä Palestiinasta, välillä ekokatastrofista, välillä Linnan juhlista, välillä ydinvoimasta, happosateista, natseista, budjettileikkauksista, vähemmistön sorrosta, Katariina Sourin öljyväritöistä, transhoidoista, mistä tahansa. Se riehuu niistä juuri niin kauan, kun yleisö reagoi. Kun yleisö ei enää jaksa kuunnella, performanssi päättyy. Uusi alkaa hetken päästä.

B) Jatkuvasti muuttuvat säännöt ja sääntötulkintamonopoli. Syväpäädylle on keskeisintä valta itsessään. Sen saavuttaminen on heille mahdollista, mikäli muu yhteiskunta hyväksyy jatkuvasti muuntuvan woke-sääntökehikon. Keskeistä on, että vasemmisto YKSIN saa tulkita sekä muuttaa sääntöjä lennossa. Yksinkertaistettuna kyse on siitä, kuin että Afrikan tähteä pelattaessa olisi käytössä kaikkien jakamat normaalisäännöt sekä NIIDEN LISÄKSI täysin mielivaltaiset, lennossa muuttuvat säännöt, joita tuomarina toimiva pelaaja saa koska tahansa muuttaa omaksi edukseen. Lisäsääntöjen tarkoitus ei ole reilu peli vaan vasemmiston voitto.

C) Moninkertaiset suojakuoret: Syvän päädyn vasemmisto on rakentanut ajan saatossa hyökkäyksilleen tupladefenssin. Ensinnäkin se TUNKEE POLIITTISEEN ETULINJAAN  lapsia, nuoria naisia, vähemmistöjä ja vaatii samalla näille johtajilleen uhreille kuuluvaa erityiskohtelua - koska vain turskea sovinistisika kehtaa väittää vastaan kun lapsi, nuori nainen tai vähemmistön edustaja puhuu. Toiseksi, se TEKEE JOKAISESTA ESITYKSESTÄÄN IHMISOIKEUSKYSYMYKSEN.  Jokainen sen esittämä poliittinen rahanjakovaatimus tai vallan konsolidointiyritys on olevinaan ihmisoikeuskysymys. JOKAINEN sen esittämä muutos on olevinaan toimi fasismia, pahuutta, taantumusta vastaan.   

Woken kiristysvaiktus toimii, koska keskimääräinen länsimaalainen on medioituneessa nyky-yhteiskunnassa altis mainekiristykselle. Hyvin harva uskaltaa sanoa vastaan raivopäisille maineenpilaajille, joiden toiminta on kaoottista, raivopäistä ja ahnetta, ja joka ei noudata mitään totuttuja pelisääntöjä, vaan yrittää mainetuhota kaikki, jotka sitä vastaan asettuvat. Woke keksii lennossa mielikuvituksellisia syytöksiä, ja tahrii niillä uutterasti kokonaisia ihmisryhmiä. Se, joka niitä pelkää, tottelee.

Jan 12, 2024
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 15.01.2024, 01:08:01
Vetivät ässän hihasta :D :facepalm:
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Quotehttps://www.foxnews.com/us/faas-diversity-push-includes-focus-hiring-people-severe-intellectual-psychiatric-disabilities

"Targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the Federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring," the FAA's website states. "They include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability and dwarfism."
Kuka olisi keksinyt että sokeat voivat aivan hyvin toimia lennonjohtajina tai pilotteina? ;D Alan epäilemään että tasa-arvo ja tasapäistäminen ei ole täysipäisten juttu.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: HDRisto on 15.01.2024, 10:33:49
Varmaan keksivät sen Boeingilla. "Kun yksi ovi sulkeutuu niin toinen avautuu".
Kun et saa vaikkapa ajokorttia etkä siten pääse rekkakuskiksi, voit ryhtyä lennnonjohtajaksi tai lentäjäksi. Automatiikallahan ne koneet nousee ja laskeutuu nykyään. Lennon aikana vaikkapa lentotransemäntä voi katsella mittareita, silloin lennetään autopilotilla. Kapteenia tarvitaan vain lähtö- ja saapumiskuulutuksiin joten mykkä ei sovi olla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 15.01.2024, 10:38:23
Quote from: HDRisto on 15.01.2024, 10:33:49
Varmaan keksivät sen Boeingilla. "Kun yksi ovi sulkeutuu niin toinen avautuu".
Kun et saa vaikkapa ajokorttia etkä siten pääse rekkakuskiksi, voit ryhtyä lennnonjohtajaksi tai lentäjäksi. Automatiikallahan ne koneet nousee ja laskeutuu nykyään. Lennon aikana vaikkapa lentotransemäntä voi katsella mittareita, silloin lennetään autopilotilla. Kapteenia tarvitaan vain lähtö- ja saapumiskuulutuksiin joten mykkä ei sovi olla.

Tää oven/plugin irtoaminen on melkoinen meemiaihe. Vain siksi, että kukaan ihminen ei aukosta huuhtoutunut ulos.

Jos tuosta lävestä olisi kymmenkunta matkustajaa lähtenyt laskuvarjottomaan hyppyyn, ei paljon naurattaisi. Äkillinen paineen lasku rungossa olisi voinut aiheuttaa vähän muutakin - käsittääkseni.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.01.2024, 10:52:45
Quote from: HDRisto on 15.01.2024, 10:33:49
Kapteenia tarvitaan vain lähtö- ja saapumiskuulutuksiin joten mykkä ei sovi olla.

Äläs nyt ole noin suvaitsematon! Kyllä ne voi koneella hoitaa, puhegeneraattorilla koneen sijainnin perusteella.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: HDRisto on 15.01.2024, 11:00:30
Quote from: ikuturso on 15.01.2024, 10:38:23
Quote from: HDRisto on 15.01.2024, 10:33:49
Varmaan keksivät sen Boeingilla. "Kun yksi ovi sulkeutuu niin toinen avautuu".
Kun et saa vaikkapa ajokorttia etkä siten pääse rekkakuskiksi, voit ryhtyä lennnonjohtajaksi tai lentäjäksi. Automatiikallahan ne koneet nousee ja laskeutuu nykyään. Lennon aikana vaikkapa lentotransemäntä voi katsella mittareita, silloin lennetään autopilotilla. Kapteenia tarvitaan vain lähtö- ja saapumiskuulutuksiin joten mykkä ei sovi olla.

Tää oven/plugin irtoaminen on melkoinen meemiaihe. Vain siksi, että kukaan ihminen ei aukosta huuhtoutunut ulos.

Jos tuosta lävestä olisi kymmenkunta matkustajaa lähtenyt laskuvarjottomaan hyppyyn, ei paljon naurattaisi. Äkillinen paineen lasku rungossa olisi voinut aiheuttaa vähän muutakin - käsittääkseni.

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Erinomainen opetus siitä että pitäkää istuinvyö kiinni lennon aikana.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.01.2024, 15:51:05
"Equity is another term for racism against white people"
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 18.01.2024, 23:14:43
Orjakorvauksista.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 18.01.2024, 23:55:29
Quote from: https://twitter.com/robertsepehr/status/1741119999090294925Robert Sepehr @robertsepehr

So white people that never had slaves should pay money to black people that never were slaves in the hopes that the black perpetrators committing a disproportionate rate of crime, rape and murder will allegedly subside.

Low IQ woke Afrocentric "logic" is running wild in America.

Dec 30, 2023
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 19.01.2024, 16:20:19
Valkoinen haastattelija haluaisi lisää neekereitä ohjelmaan, mutta Jerry Seinfeld ei kumartele woke-transu-mukanajuoksijoille!
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.01.2024, 14:19:15
Taidejuttua. Woke on taistolaisuuden lapsenlapsi.

Quote from: https://rondo.fi/kolumnit/olli_virtaperko/jos-et-ole-meidan-puolellamme-olet-meita-vastaan/?amp=1Taiteilijoiden vihervasemmistolaisen wokeismin siipi on palauttanut hyvän ja pahan sekä oikean ja väärän retoriikan taidepuheeseen. Se on tehnyt sen moralismia ja vihaa tihkuvalla tavalla, johon sosiaalisen median ihmisiä toisiaan vastaan ajava ja blokkeihin jakava algoritmitodellisuus on antanut oman kuorrutuksensa. Woke-taiteilijoiden "narratiivi" muistuttaa monilta osin puolen vuosisadan takaista moraalista esikuvaansa, taistolaisuutta. Molemmissa toteutuu selkeä hyvä ja paha -asetelma. Taiteen tärkein tehtävä on ideologinen, sen tulee edistää oman identiteettipolitiikan mukaisia yhteiskunnallisia ja poliittisia tavoitteita, ja kaikki sellainen taide, joka ei priorisoi poliittista agendaa taiteellisen agendan edelle näyttäytyy pahana – ei siis vain "huonona taiteena " vaan nimenomaan "pahana taiteena" sanan moraalis-eettisessä merkityksessä.

Kommunismin ideologisena työrukkasena toimineiden taistolaistaiteilijoiden perintönä muistamme sloganin "jos et ole meidän puolellamme olet meitä vastaan" – tämä ajattelu välittyy voimakkaana myös taistolaisuuden 2020-luvun reinkarnaatiosta.  Pyrkimyksenä on luoda mahdollisimman voimakas konflikti ympäröivän todellisuuden kanssa, ja varsinkin niiden yhteisistä resursseista kamppailevien reppanoiden kanssataiteilijoiden kanssa, jotka lähtökohtaisesti pyrkivät välttämään kaikenlaisia konflikteja ja haluavat vain keskittyä omaan taiteelliseen työhönsä. Nimenomaan tämä puolustautumishaluttomien ja -kyvyttömien nössökkä-taiteilijoiden enemmistön itseensä käpertyvä pelokas hiljaisuus palvelee woke-taiteilijan pyrkimyksiä maksimaalisesti mahdollistaen heidän vapaan ja vastavoimattoman temmeltämisensä mediassa ja taidekeskustelun ytimessä. Tämä strategia toimi hyvin 1970-luvulla, ja se näkyy toimivan myös tänä päivänä.



Suomen perustuslaki turvaa kansalaisilleen laajan sananvapauden, eli oikeuden ilmaista ja vastaanottaa kaikenlaisia tietoja, mielipiteitä ja muita viestejä kenenkään sitä estämättä. Perustuslakiin kirjattu taiteellisen ilmaisun vapaus on sananvapauden yksi ilmenemismuoto. Siitä seuraa, että valtiovalta ei kohdista taiteeseen sensuuria, ei pyri ohjailemaan sen sisältöä eikä aseta esteitä taiteen autonomialle, joka toteutuu omaehtoisen ja -lähtöisen taiteellisen työskentelyn sekä työn hedelmien rajoittamattoman esille asettamisen mahdollisuuden kautta.

Käytäntö on osoittanut, että kansakunnan perustuslain peruspilarit  säätäneet kansakunnan isät ja äidit ovat olleet näkemyksissään verrattoman paljon liberaalimpia ja avarakatseisempia kuin perustuslain kohteet itse. Perustuslaki ei pyri patoamaan, kahlitsemaan tai suuntaamaan luovuuden ja ajattelun virtaa vähääkään, mutta taideyhteisö itse ei muuta teekään.

Olli Virtaperko

Jutun alku linkistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 22.01.2024, 17:32:42
Aivan loistava woke-kriittinen drag queen -satutunti: https://youtu.be/dC-7cOxBWDo?si=JhutAvD2QR-9NQkA
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.01.2024, 17:50:38
Quote from: Bona on 22.01.2024, 17:32:42
Aivan loistava woke-kriittinen drag queen -satutunti: https://youtu.be/dC-7cOxBWDo?si=JhutAvD2QR-9NQkA

"... The lesson learned is no matter what crazy things people are saying, imagination is just that imagination, and we need to always ground ourselves in reality, like the reality, that I a biological man and I'm not a woman. "
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 23.01.2024, 12:28:23
Woke-idiotismi on leviämässä suomalaisiin lukioihin:

Helsinki Pravda: https://www.hs.fi/kaupunki/art-2000010096072.html

QuoteHelsingin Kallion ilmaisutaidon lukiossa opettajat ovat uuden ja hämmentävän tilanteen edessä. Kaikki oppilaat eivät halua kohdata opetuksessa eteen tulevia vaikeita asioita tai keskustella niistä.

Esimerkiksi äidinkielen tunnilla opetusmateriaalina olevasta Robinson Crusoe -klassikosta saattaa syntyä kohu sen vanhentuneen arvomaailman vuoksi.

Omissa töissään opiskelijat taas pyrkivät usein helpottamaan vaikeiden tunteiden ja ajatusten kohtaamista liittämällä niihin "sisältövaroituksia". Sisältövaroituksilla varoitetaan yleisöä etukäteen työn sisältämästä mahdollisesti ahdistusta herättävästä sisällöstä.

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Keskusteluilmapiirin muututtua opettajat miettivät esimerkiksi seuraavanlaisia kysymyksiä:

Voiko koulun teatteriprojekteissa käsitellä vaikeita ja raskaita aiheita, vai kokevatko oppilaat olonsa turvattomaksi?
Voivatko opiskelijat kirjoittaa rehellisesti ja aidosti, vai joutuvatko he pelkäämään muiden opiskelijoiden reaktioita?
Jos ei tiedä vaikka seksuaalisuuteen liittyvää oikeaa termiä, voiko lukiolainen tunnilla tuoda oman mielipiteensä esiin?


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Kallion lukio on saanut opetushallitukselta rahaa keskusteluilmapiirin parantamiseen. Operaation nimi on Relaa ja sen avulla on tarkoitus kehittää opiskelijoiden ja myös opettajien resilienssiä. Siis kykyä selviytyä vaikeuksista elämässä.

Äidinkielen ja kirjallisuuden opettaja Monja Kataja näkee, että muutoksen takana on ainakin kaksi viime vuosien suurta murrosta: korona-aika ja Metoo-liike. Katajan näkemyksen mukaan opiskelijoiden turvallisuudentunne ja luottamus yhteisön hyväntahtoisuuteen ovat heikentyneet niiden jälkeen.

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Luokassa olijat näyttävät pyynnöstä koulun arkikäytössä olleita sisältövaroituksia. Niitä on käytetty erilaisten oppilastöiden yhteydessä.

Sisältövaroitukseen viitataan kirjainlyhenteellä SV. Näin:

SV: kuolema
SV: ilmastonmuutos
SV: homofobia
SV: ahdistavat teemat
SV: muistisairaus
SV: veri
SV: poliittinen sisältö
SV: eläimiin kohdistuva väkivalta


Opiskelijat kokevat sisältövaroitukset tarpeellisiksi, mutta koulun näkökulmasta ne eivät ole aivan ristiriidattomia. Apulaisrehtori Ari-Pekka Niemi sanoo, että hänen mielestään ilmiön eri puolista olisi hyvä käydä myös kriittistä keskustelua. Niemi toteaa, että tutkimustieto ei tue sisältövaroitusten käyttöä. Niistä voi olla jopa haittaa.

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"Jos haluamme käyttää sisältövaroituksia, meidän kannattaisi sopia käytössä olevista varoituksista sen sijaan, että ne voivat olla mitä tahansa."

Paikalla olevat lukiolaiset näkevät varoitukset tärkeinä turvallisen katsomisen ja turvallisen yhteisen kokemisen kannalta.

"En silti itse juuri kiinnitä varoituksiin huomiota, kun käyn katsomassa koulun esityksiä", opiskelijakunnan hallituksen varapuheenjohtaja Kide Rinne sanoo.

Hallituksen puheenjohtaja Minni-Mansikka Kapasen mielestä esimerkiksi homo- ja transfobiaan sekä eläimiin kohdistuvaan väkivaltaan liittyvät varoitukset ovat "ehdottoman hyviä".

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Kirjallisuuden opettaja Kataja ja taideopetuksen apulaisrehtori Annemari Untamala kertovat esimerkkejä oppitunneilta, joilla on jo estetty keskustelua kärjistymästä.

"Vuorovaikutuskurssilla katsoimme kahden presidenttiehdokkaan tentin. Sovimme heti alkuun, että keskustelemme ehdokkaista ja heidän esiintymisestään kuin kyseessä olisi toiselle kurssilaiselle rakas ja tärkeä ihminen", Kataja kertoo.

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Untamala sanoo, että opiskelijat esittävät keväällä Spring Awakening -musikaalin, jonka teemoihin kuuluvat seksuaalisuus ja perheväkivalta.

"Olemme luoneet harjoituksiin turvapolun. Jos harjoituksissa nousee esiin jollekin vaikea aihe, opiskelijat tietävät, keneen olla yhteydessä", Untamala kertoo.

* snif * on tää elämä niin kauhiaa * snif *

Kide ja Minni-Mansikka. :facepalm: . Vittu oikeesti, mitä sietämättömiä lumihiutaleita!

Vasemmistoliberaalit minni-mansikat haluavat vain puddinkia ja pumpulia elämänsä läpi. Miten helvetissä nuo ajattelee pärjäävänsä elämässä? Miksi nämä minni-mansikat edes käyvät koulua kun se on niin "turvatonta"? Jos olisin opettajana tuollaiselle porukalle antaisin hylätyn kaikille, jotka edes vihjailevat olevansa "turvattomia".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.01.2024, 12:37:13
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Quote from: https://twitter.com/AtteKaleva/status/1749724547996069946Atte Kaleva @AtteKaleva

Kallion ilmaisutaidon lukiossa nuoret suojelevat omia ja muiden tunteita liittämällä tekemäänsä taiteeseen sisältövaroituksia. Ettei kukaan joutuisi kohtaamaan omasta mielestään ikäviä asioita eikä kenellekään tulisi koskaan paha mieli.

Hesarin jutussa pohditaan, mahtaisiko tämä ilmiö johtua koronasta. Voin kertoa: ei johdu. Se johtuu Amerikasta sellaisenaan kopioidusta, akateemisen maailman sekopäisimpiin kuuluvasta muoti-ilmiöstä, jota kutsutaan wokeksi. Siinä yksilön tunne on nostettu keskiöön, kaikkein tärkeimmäksi tekijäksi.

Mitähän mahtaa tapahtua, kun nämä pumpulilla itsensä ympäröineet nuoret joutuvat jossain vaiheessa kohtaamaan elämän realiteetit? Isku voi olla aika kova, kun sen käsittelyyn ei ole rakentunut minkäänlaisia valmiuksia, vaan pikemminkin päinvastoin.

Eikä tämä ole näiden nuorten syytä. Ei heillä ole vielä valmiuksia käsitellä tällaisia asioita. Syy on puhtaasti tässä punavihreässä, intersektionalistisessa #woke-kultissa, jossa yksilö pelkistetään viiteryhmänsä edustajaksi ja kuviteltuja etuoikeuksia ja sorron muotoja pitää jokaisen olla koko ajan pyytämässä anteeksi.

Ei ihme, että nuorten mielenterveysongelmat ovat kasvussa. Nyt jotain järkeä tähän touhuun!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 24.01.2024, 20:53:19
23:sta tuttu Koskelo järjesteli palikat oikeisiin asentoihinsa. Turha korostaa tekstiä, asiaa kaikki tyyni. Ehdoton lukusuositus!

Quote from: https://twitter.com/Arto_Koskelo/status/1462403019283259393Arto Koskelo @Arto_Koskelo | 21. marrask. 2021

Pari sanaa wokesta, joka on melko myrkyllinen kokoelma uusmarxilaisia identiteettipoliittisia kumousoppeja. 1/x

Wokea määrittelee postmoderni versio luokkavihasta, jossa kokonaiset ryhmät määritellään sortajiksi riippumatta siitä, mitä ryhmään kuuluva yksilö ajattelee tai tekee. Kohtelu varataan valkoihoisille, miehille ja heteroille, joista rakentuu woken ensisijainen viholliskuva. 2/x

Woke ei pyri johdonmukaisuuteen tai totuuteen, vaan valtaan ja selätysvoittoon. Sen ytimessä on ajatus eri säännöistä eri ryhmille, mikä tekee siitä tasa-arvon vastaisen ja eriarvoisuutta tavoittelevan liikehdinnän. Se tavoittelee alistumista alistamisen avulla. 3/x

Toisin kuin Nelson Mandela tai Martin Luther King, woke ei tavoittele epäreiluuden poistamista, vaan epäreiluuksien korvaamista uusilla vääryyksillä, jotka se määrittelee oikeutetuiksi toimiksi kollektiivisen historiallisen syyllisyyden avulla. 4/x

Gramsci, Adorno, Marcuse, Foucault, Crenshaw ja Butler ovat liikkeen teoreettisia oppi-isiä ja äitejä, taktiikoita lainataan surutta muun muassa Mao Zedongilta, jonka versio oikeudenmukaisesta yhteiskunnasta tapaili inkvisition noitavainojen & etnisten puhdistusten logiikkaa. 5/x

Olennaista ovat eri säännöt eri ryhmille, mikä tekee liikkeen moraalista reaktionääristä ja epäloogista. Oikeamieliset saavat tehdä melkein mitä vain: valehdella, väärentää sanojen merkityksiä ja esiintyä agression uhreina mistä heitä tulee ylistää. Tarkoitus pyhittää keinot. 6/x

Ns. intersektioviholliset eivät löydä pakopaikkaa moraalista tai logiikasta, sillä heidän roolinsa ideologian vihollisina määrittää heidän positionsa, eivät heidän ajatuksensa tai tekonsa. Vain ryhmillä on merkitystä, yksilöillä ei. 7/x

Tarkoitus pyhittää keinot, minkä vuoksi sortajalla pitääkin olla turvatonta ja epämukavaa, siinä missä sorretulla pitää olla turvallista myös silloin, kun hän on itse turvattomuuden lähde. Näin kävi Esko Valtaojalle Ylellä. 8/x

Enemmistö ideologiaan vihkiytyneistä ei ymmärrä uskonnonkaltaisen oppijärjestelmän poikkeuksellista kyynisyyttä, mikä tekee heistä rinnastettavia verkostomarkkinointiin haksahtaneihin. Uhreja itsekin.  9/x

He ovat hyödyllisiä hölmöjä, jotka toteuttavat kulttuurikumousta ymmärtämättä, ettei maalissa odota paratiisi tai palkinto, vaan polarisaatio ja pakottaminen. Vallankumous, joka syö lapsensa. Heitä on syytä paheksua ja heidän pyrkimyksiä vastustaa; heitä ei ole syytä vihata. 10/x

Vallantahtoiselle ideologialle ei kannata antaa erävoittoja, sillä tämä voimistaa yhteiskunnalle esitettyjä vaatimuksia "vallan uusjaosta" sen sijaan, että vähentäisi niitä. 11/x

Liikkeen teoreettinen ydin on varsin kyyninen ja kohtuullisen totalitaristinen, mutta se naamioituu oikeudenmukaisuuden ja tasa-arvon kaapuun. Historialliset sekä nykyiset vääryydet toimivat polttoaineena pseudouskonnolliselle vihalle. 12/x

Ilman todellisia tai kuvitteellisia vääryyksiä liikkeen polttoaine loppuu, minkä vuoksi länsimaisista yhteiskunnista pitää rakentaa viholliskuvat. Niiden on oltava patriarkaalisimpia ja rasistisimpia kuin mitkään muut maat; niiden vääryyksien tulee olla kohtalokkaita. 13/x

Siksi Suomella on oltava kolonialistinen historia ja Suomen on oltava Euroopan rasistisin maa. Siksi valkoisen miehen tulee vaieta seurakunnassa ja sanojen on oltava väkivaltaa. Siksi liikkeen vastustamisen tulee olla vihapuhetta. Kovin loogista. 14/x

Ideologiassa pyrkimyksenä on kääntää ihmiset toisiaan vastaan perheissä, työpaikoilla ja koko yhteiskunnan tasolla. Naiset miehiä vastaan, heterot homoja vastaan ja tummaihoiset vaaleaihoisia vastaan. Eripurasta sikiävä kaaos luo liikkeelle momentin valtaan. 15/x

Intersektioita käytetään paitsi epäkohtien paikantamiseen, myös valmiiden yksiköiden hajoittamiseen ja vallan atomisoimiseen, jotta se voidaan raunioittamisen jälkeen rekonstruktoida liikkeen pyrkimysten mukaisesti. 16/x

Liikkeelle ei kannata kääntää toista poskea. Sen autoritaarisia pyrkimyksiä tulee vastustaa, jotta länsimaalaisen liberalismi kestäisi höykytyksen, eikä taipuisi ja antaisi periksi. 17/x

Tasa-arvo, sananvapaus ja demokratia ovat yhteiskunnan perustukset. Pyrkimystä uudelleenmääritellä niiden sisällöt toksisiksi woke-versioiksi tulee vastustaa. 18/x

Jatketaan paremman maailman rakentamista tähänkin saakka kohtuu hyvin toimineen liberaalin länsimaisen projektin avulla. Aatteellisesti valuvikaisella ja ytimeltään länsimaiden vastaisella woke-liikehdinnällä ei tule olla sijaa siinä. Tänks. 19/loppu

Oppi-isiä on paljon ja saatan unohtaa jonkun keskeisen nimen. Palasia on liitetty toisiinsa postmodernisti; niistä rakentuu ideologinen tilkkutäkki, joka ei ole sisäisesti johdonmukainen. Ei ole pyhää tekstiä, mutta on liturgiaa.

Marx = Vallankumous ratkaisuna sortoon
Gramsci = Instituutioiden valtaaminen ja kulttuurinen hegemonia
Adorno = Länsimaiden väärä tietoisuus, joka uusintaa sorron
Marcuse = Joustava moraali oikeamielisille: likaiset keinot sallittuja vihollisia vastaan

Foucault = Kaikessa on kyse vallasta ja vain vallasta
Crenshaw = Intersektiot määrittelevät ihmisen aseman hierarkiassa kollektiivisen identiteetin kautta
Butler = Sukupuoli on sosiaalinen konstruktio ja heteronormatiivisuus yhteiskunnallista sortoa

Jatketaan paremman maailman rakentamista tähänkin saakka kohtuu hyvin toimineen liberaalin länsimaisen projektin avulla. Aatteellisesti valuvikaisella ja ytimeltään länsimaiden vastaisella woke-liikehdinnällä ei tule olla sijaa siinä. Tänks. 19/loppu

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 24.01.2024, 21:43:28
QuoteMichael Shellenberger @shellenberger

John's best-selling new book, Woke Racism, is brilliant. I couldn't put it down.

It's worth it just for its list of wokeism's contradictions (e.g., "Show interest in multiculturalism/Do not culturally appropriate").
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 24.01.2024, 22:40:23
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Sekalaisia pätkiä ...

QuoteTherapists call this "crazy-making"

"To apologize shows your racism; to be refused the apology, too, shows your racism.
To not be interested in black culture shows your racism; to get into black culture & decide that, you too want to rap, or wear dreadlocks, shows your racism."
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... how to survive as a heterodoxical intellectual.

Losing the Race (2001) and Winning the Race (2006)
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While John is concerned by the impact that woke religion is having on all of us, he is particularly concerned by its impact on black people, hence the book's subtitle, "How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America."
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.... rather than improve schooling, progressives are lowering standards for all students and eliminating merit-based admissions & algebra
...
While progressives actively deny that Critical Race Theory even exists, the doctrine is being used to introduce woke racism into California's math classes.
...
The quantity of gas-lighting that exists around denying the impact of CRT on schools is matched only by the straw-manning of the tenets of wokeism.
...
Wokeness is demanding that we *lower* standards for, & not enforce certain laws against, people because of their race, or victim status.

Wokeness is demanding that we teach history *inaccurately* (e.g., war of independence was a defense of slavery)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2024, 21:00:17
Quote from: 1750808265024241688Juha Mäkinen @Isolohkojuha

Sain vihdoinkin yhdeltä muunsukupuoliselta listan 56 sukupuolesta. Olkaa hyvä. Mielestäni näillä on mennyt seksuaalinen suuntautuminen ja sukupuoli sekaisin?

Agender
Androgyne
Androgynous
Bigender
Cis
Cisgender
Cis   Female
Cis   Male
Cis   Man
Cis   Woman
Cisgender   Female
Cisgender   Male
Cisgender   Man
Cisgender   Woman
Female   to   Male
FTM
Gender   Fluid
Gender   Nonconforming
Gender   Questioning
Gender   Variant
Genderqueer
Intersex
Male   to   Female
MTF
Neither
Neutrois
Non-binary
Other
Pangender
Trans
Trans*
Trans   Female
Trans*   Female
Trans   Male
Trans*   Male
Trans   Man
Trans*   Man
Trans   Person
Trans*   Person
Trans   Woman
Trans*   Woman
Transfeminine
Transgender
Transgender   Female
Transgender   Male
Transgender   Man
Transgender   Person
Transgender   Woman
Transmasculine
Transsexual
Transsexual   Female
Transsexual   Male
Transsexual   Man
Transsexual   Person
Transsexual   Woman
Two-Spirit

Jan 26, 2024
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Penan kaveri Eki on 31.01.2024, 18:24:53
No voi harmin paikka.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.02.2024, 12:33:22
Quote from: https://twitter.com/robertsepehr/status/1752816870758162805Robert Sepehr @robertsepehr

Woke Afrocentrism is a mental disorder. This is not a criticism of black people, it is a criticism of self-loathing, cucked, psychologically damaged and confused white people that need therapy.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 08.02.2024, 02:06:00
Modet, käykö tämä tänne vai pitäisikö laittaa Elon Musk-ketjuun? @kgb

Gina Carano vie Disneyn oikeuteen potkujen takia. Elon Musk tarjoaa tukea.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: kgb on 08.02.2024, 22:48:59
Mun puolesta voi olla täällä. Caranostahan tuossa on kyse eikä Muskista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.02.2024, 04:23:39
QuoteScott Adams @ScottAdamsSays

So far, DEI has destroyed all movies and TV shows, our entire education system, our airlines industry, every social media platform except X, our military, border security, and the Democratic Party's chances for 2024 and beyond.

Feb 10, 2024

Alempi video. Musk: "DEI (Diversity, Equity and Inclusion) sound like nice words, but they're Orwellian in practice. DEI is discrimination based on race, gender, ideology and sexual orientation."

[tweet]1749574023770435766[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.02.2024, 20:09:41
Osataan sitä Suomessakin olla julkisesti lapsia vihaavia pervoja idiootteja.

[tweet]1758013462876200997[/tweet]

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 18.02.2024, 10:33:51
What They're Teaching Kids WILL Destroy America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DT_KLHAa_s
QuoteIf you've ever wondered what would happen if you got kindergarteners to skip reading and math and instead went straight to lessons on white supremacy, US foreign policy decisions, and the history of oppression, well, as you can imagine, their ability to read and do math didn't go up. Glassbrook Elementary in San Francisco contracted with "Woke Kindergarten" to do just that, and surprise, surprise, the kids test scores suffered as a result.


Disney and Bob Iger REGRET Going Woke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxThWloYj70
QuoteKamala Harris says she's ready to be president. Did Trump really say he'd encourage Russia to attack NATO countries? And is Elon Musk takes on Disney. Watch this episode of America Uncovered for that and more on this week's top headlines.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 25.02.2024, 10:13:19
Onko tämä tänne sopiva vai pitäiskö siirtää feminismi-ketjuun, tai johonkin poliikkaketjuun? Modet @kgb @Skeptikko @Nuivinator @Miniluv @Kemolitor

Financial Times: sukupuolten poliittinen erkaantuminen on globaali ilmiö – nuoret naiset liukuvat vasemmalle, nuoret miehet oikealle
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/financial-times-sukupuolten-poliittinen-erkaantuminen-on-globaali-ilmio-nuoret-naiset-liukuvat-vasemmalle-nuoret-miehet-oikealle/
QuoteArvostettu talouslehti Financial Times nostaa esille sukupuolten poliittisen erkaantumisen uutena globaalina ilmiönä. Selvitykset eri puolilta maailmaa kertovat samasta ilmiöstä: vasta viime vuosina nuoret naiset ovat lipuneet poliittisesti vasemmalle, ja nuoret miehet puolestaan oikealle. Aikaisemmin vastaavat erot olivat olemattomia. Merkittävänä lähtölaukauksena tälle kehitykselle pidetään vuosien takaista MeToo-liikettä, joka toi feminismin ja identiteettipolitiikan keskeiseksi osaksi nuorten naisten poliittista kulttuuria. Tätä nykyä sukupuolten väliset jyrkät poliittiset erot näkyvät myös mm. maahanmuuttopolitiikassa ja puoluekannoissa. Älypuhelinten ja sosiaalisen median kaikukammioiden arvioidaan vain kärjistävän tilannetta, sillä ne eristävät nuoret aikuiset omiin todellisuuskupliinsa ja kulttuureihinsa.

OK tässä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 25.02.2024, 10:55:07
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 25.02.2024, 10:13:19
Financial Times: sukupuolten poliittinen erkaantuminen on globaali ilmiö – nuoret naiset liukuvat vasemmalle, nuoret miehet oikealle
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/financial-times-sukupuolten-poliittinen-erkaantuminen-on-globaali-ilmio-nuoret-naiset-liukuvat-vasemmalle-nuoret-miehet-oikealle/

Suomen Kuvalehden kolumnissa tutkija Tiina Raevaara kuittaa Financial Timesin artikkelin perusteella valtaosin naisten äkilliseen liberalisoitumiseen perustuvan muutoksen "miesten käpertymiseksi siilipuolustukseen" kokiessaan esimerkiksi ilmastonmuutoskeskustelun uhkaksi autoilulle.

QuoteMiehet käpertyvät siilipuolustukseen

Tiina Raevaara on filosofian tohtori ja kirjailija.

Financial Times uutisoi tammikuun lopussa, kuinka nuorten naisten ja nuorten miesten arvomaailmat ovat erkaantumassa.

Erityisen vahvasti eriytyminen näkyy Z-sukupolven eli vuosituhannen alussa syntyneiden parissa. Ilmiö koskee kaikkia kehittyneitä maita. Naiset liberalisoituvat, kun taas miesten arvomaailma maasta riippuen polkee joko paikallaan tai muuttuu aiempaa konservatiivisemmaksi. Nuoret miehet ovat esimerkiksi isänmaallisempia, uskonnollisempia ja oikeistolaisempia kuin samanikäiset naiset.

Suomessa asiasta uutisoivat FT:n vanavedessä ainakin Yle ja Kauppalehti. Jälkimmäisen haastattelussa 8. helmikuuta nuorisotutkija Tomi Kiilakoski hahmottelee ilmiön syiksi muun muassa naisten kohonnutta koulutustasoa sekä sitä, että nykyään julkisuudessa paljon esillä olevat ilmastokriisin kaltaiset puheenaiheet ovat uhka perinteisesti miehiin liitetyille asioille, kuten autoilulle.
Suomen Kuvalehti (https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/mielipide/tiina-raevaara-miehet-kapertyvat-siilipuolustukseen-muutoksen-edessa/) 18.2.2024  (maksumuuri)

Quote from: Tiina RaevaaraIhmiskunnan vastaansa saamat kriisit eivät suinkaan vähene tulevaisuudessa, ja niitä on vaikea ratkoa vahvasta erimielisyydestä käsin. Kovin poikkeava arvomaailmahan aiheuttaa jopa sen, että kaikki eivät suostu myöntämään kriisin olemassaoloa – näin on vaikkapa ilmastonmuutoksen kohdalla.

Ääriliberaaliin maailmankuvaan kuuluu nähdä itselle tärkeät asiat äärimmäisen vakavina "kriiseinä", joihin yhteiskunnan täytyisi kiireesti ylireagoida tavoilla, jotka eivät juuri vaikuta itse ongelmaan, jonka tarkempi määritteleminen jätetään kaikessa tohinassa mieluummin tekemättä. "Ilmastokriisi" on tästä erinomainen esimerkki.

Mainitulla liberalisoitumisilmiöllä ei ole käytännössä mitään tekemistä globaalin ilmastonmuutoksen "ratkaisemisen" kanssa, mutta asiaankuuluva liberaali näkökulma on, että polttomoottoriautojaan ajattelevien länsimaisten miesten "siilipuolustus" estää maailman pelastamisen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 25.02.2024, 13:23:38
^ Juuri tuo. Sama on näkynyt viimeisen 20 vuoden aikana erityisesti vihervasemmistolaisten naispolitiikkojen lanseeraamana "viestin lähettämisellä lainsäädännöllä". Siis säädetään jotain, joka ei oikeasti vaikuta lainkaan juuri asiaan, mutta säätämällä turha säännös -"lähetetään viesti"... :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 25.02.2024, 15:29:31
Quote from: Roope on 25.02.2024, 10:55:07
QuoteMiehet käpertyvät siilipuolustukseen

Erityisen vahvasti eriytyminen näkyy Z-sukupolven eli vuosituhannen alussa syntyneiden parissa. Ilmiö koskee kaikkia kehittyneitä maita. Naiset liberalisoituvat, kun taas miesten arvomaailma maasta riippuen polkee joko paikallaan tai muuttuu aiempaa konservatiivisemmaksi. Nuoret miehet ovat esimerkiksi isänmaallisempia, uskonnollisempia ja oikeistolaisempia kuin samanikäiset naiset.

Tilanne taitaa pikemmin olla niin, että naiset ovat radikalisoitumassa siirtymällä yhä kauemmaksi vasemmistoliberalismin aatemaailman sisään. Miehet siis todellakin "polkevat paikallaan" mutta tuskin siinä negatiivisessa mielessä kun kirjoittaja tarkoittaa.

Vasemmisto on aina kutsunut itsensä progressiiviseksi eli "edistykselliseksi". Käytännössä se on tarkoittanut jatkuvaa pyrkimystä mullistaa yhteiskunta sosiaalisten insinööritaidon puitteissa ja repiä auki kaikki normit ja säännöt. Asian liittyy se, että vasemmiston, yleensä nuori ja levoton kannattajakunta, haluaa sosiaalisen vallankumouksensa aina heti ja se on tietenkin aina parempi kun edeltävien vasemmistosukupolvien vallankumoukset.

Koska yhteiskunnan normaalia hidasta evoluutiota ei jakseta odottaa, vasemmiston nopeatempoinen "progressiivisyys" johtaa aina yhteiskunnalliseen sekasortoon ja massiivisiin virheisiin.

Miesten "polkeminen paikallaan" on jarru vasemmiston kaaospolitiikkaa vastaan. Se ei välttämättä ole enää kovin tehokas jarru mutta se on ainoa jarru, joka enää on olemassa. Jos yhteiskunta rakennettaisiin vasemmistoliberalismiin hurahtaneiden naisten pillin mukaan, mitään toimivaa yhteiskuntaa ei olisi edes olemassa.

Tämän puitteissa on hyvä jos miehen tulevat konservatiivisemmaksi. Vaihtoehto on päätyä anarkiaan tai diktatuuriin, jossa naisetkaan ei lopulta viihdy. Karrikoidusti voisikin sanoa, että miehet pelastavat (liberaalit) naiset itseltään.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: skyuu on 25.02.2024, 17:17:47
^
Elon Musk twiittas/xhitteröi/tms. tuosta paikallaan pysymisestä aika osuvan kuvan joskus aikoinaan. Se että "poljetaan paikoillaan" tai "käperrytään siilipuolustukseen" ei ole todellakaan mikään huono juttu jos mietitään mihin se toinen pääty rynnistää. Tulee mieleen sopulilauma jossa halveerataan ja sätitään niitä jotka ei haluakkaan juosta kohti kallionkielekettä ja sen yli. Tai kohti psykoosia ja siitä ohi vai miten se sanonta nykyään menee?

Ja joo, en kyllä ymmärrä noitten logiikkaa. Olen yrittänyt mutta... ei, en vaan ymmärrä.

e: Jaa, kuvasta näköjään puuttuu pala mutta pointti taisi tulla selväksi.
e2: Kuva vaihdettu. Näkyy se vasemmiston reagointikin siihen paikallaan polkemiseen  ;)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 25.02.2024, 21:52:15
Se Muskin kuuluisa twiitti/äksy on tämä:
[tweet]1519735033950470144[/tweet]

Venäjän vallankumous 1917, natsien valtaannousu Saksassa 1933 ja sen jälkeinen diktatuurin pystyttäminen, Maon aikaisen Kiinan kulttuurivallankumous 1966-1976...eivät olisi onnistuneet jos naiset eivät olisi menneet niihin mukaan. Jos naiset olisivat yhtä konservativiisia kuin miehet, tällöin kaikki nuo olisivat lässähtäneet alkumetreille. Jos niitä olisi toteutettu pelkkien äijäköörien voimin, menestys olisi jäänyt vaisummaksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 27.02.2024, 11:55:59
Facessa tulee nykyään jostain syystä paljon vastaan kuukautissuojamainoksia. Yhteistä niille kaikille on, että niissä kuvatut naiset ovat a) läskejä, b) tummaihoisia, c) lyhyttukkaisia tatuoituja rekkalesboja tai d) kaikkia näitä. Libresse ja Always eivät ilmeisesti enää halua normaalipainoisten, kauniiden, vaaleiden ja/tai naistellisten naisten käyttävän tuotteitaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 27.02.2024, 13:43:51
Tässä näkyy miten tunnetut yritykset tukivat välivaaleissa puolueita.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.02.2024, 16:46:33
Rodunvaihtajapedoperverssi sai kenkää, kun WokeDisney menetti puolet arvostaan.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1762255334314316219End Wokeness @EndWokeness

BREAKING: Disney film president Sean Bailey is leaving, effective immediately.

Bailey was in charge of Disney remakes.

Bailey was responsible for recent bombs like Little Mermaid (2023) and Peter and Wendy.

Disney lost a whopping $1 billion at the box office last year over multiple flops.

Feb 27, 2024
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 28.02.2024, 12:19:53
:facepalm:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/uk-charity-admits-it-was-wrong-fire-life-long-volunteer-over-pronouns

QuoteThe National Multiple Sclerosis Society has done a 180 and apologised for telling a 90-year-old volunteer she was not welcome anymore because she had violated diversity guidelines by failing to disclose her pronouns.

As we highlighted last week, Fran Itkoff was dismissed by the charity over the matter despite having given 60 years of her life to volunteering.

Mrs Itkoff didn't even understand what she was being asked to provide and merely expressed confusion over what was meant by pronouns.


...


In a long statement, the society claims it has said sorry "to our longtime, dedicated volunteer Fran Itkoff," adding "We realise now that we made a mistake, and we should have had more conversations with Fran before making this decision."

Eli 60 vuotta vapaaehtoistyötä MS-järjestölle tehnyt 90-vuotias nainen potkittiin ulos koska hän ei ilmoittanut ns. "pronomejaan". Jutun mukaan mummo ei edes ymmärtänyt mistä oli kyse.

Pronomit (pronouns) ovat transideologiaan liittyvää jargonilla, jolla voi ilmoittaa "sukupuolensa":

https://lgbtqia.ucdavis.edu/educated/pronouns-inclusive-language

co / co / cos / cos / coself
en / en / ens / ens / enself
ey / em / eir / eirs / emself
he / him / his / his / himself
she / her / her / hers / herself
they / them / their / theirs / themself
xie / hir ("here") / hir / hirs / hirself
yo / yo / yos / yos / yoself
ze ve / zir vis / zir ver / zirs ver / zirself verself

MS-seuran aakkosfasistit eivät siis saaneet selville jos mummo oli yo vai xie, joten hänet oli erotettava ilmeisen transfobisena vihaihmisenä. :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 28.02.2024, 18:25:04
En kuvan nähdessäni tiennyt, onko kyseessä parodia vai todellinen kirja. Googlella löytyi mm. Amazonista, eli todellisuutta on. Valitettavasti.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.02.2024, 10:57:08
"Miss Netherlands and Portugal are two trans men. What do you think?"

- "Only left-wing politics infiltrate the competition and hand the prizes to men."

- "Why are real women still participating in this competition?"

- "If women do not stand up against this,  the trans men will take over their sports and any competition designed for real women."

- "I guess women rights are no longer valid since men are taking over their gender."

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 29.02.2024, 12:20:10
^No koko homma on laajaa arkipäivän pahkasikaa ja monthy phytonia. Olen tullut siihen tulokseen. Osa noista pronomisteista haluaa valtaa muihin. Osa on hyödyllisiä idiootteja. Osa tuhosta nauttivia humoristeja.

Ja mummo sai kenkää, kun ei ymmärtänyt miksi joku pomo kirjoitti kaikkiin viesteihinsä she/hers ja ihmetteli, eikö moinen ole kovin syrjivää, koska MS-toiminta on kaikille, kun kaikissa liikkeen viesteissä oli propagandaa syrjimättömyydestä, mutta johtaja allekirjoitti She/Hers joka kirjoituksensa....  ;D  Siis noin se lähti liikenteeseen. Nämä hyvät ihmiset häiriintyivät mummon ihmettelystä ja päättivät heittää 60 vuotta MS-toiminnalle uhranneen mummon mäkeen... Sen sijaan, että olisivat alkaneet selittää tätä ihmeellistä pronominipelleilyä mummolle.

Siis koska "lapsi ihmetteli keisarin uusia vaatteita". Sehän oli syy. Eivät kyenneet vakuuttavasti alkamaan selittämään miksi joka paikaan pitää työntää niitä pronomiinejä -syrjimättömyytenä. En minäkään osaisi selittää rehellisesti ilman paskapuhetta moista. Siksi pitivät ilmeisesti helpompana vaan viskata vaikeita kyselevä mummo ulos... :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 29.02.2024, 12:30:44
Jos joku kyselisi minulta jossain organisaatiossa pronimiinejani, esittäisin humoristina vakavalla naamalla loukkaantunutta, miksi hän kyselee pronomiinejani, jotka ovat puhtaasti yksityinen henkilökohtainen yksityisasiani, joka ei voi kuulua kenellekään... Ei varsinkaan organisaatiolle julkaistavaksi. ;D

Reaktio olisi varmaan hauskaa seurattavaa. Siis mikä helvetin oikeus kenelläkään on kysellä pronomiinejani, jos en ole tullut vaikka vielä kaapista taisteluhelikopterina... ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 29.02.2024, 12:37:35
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.02.2024, 10:57:08
"Miss Netherlands and Portugal are two trans men. What do you think?"

- "Only left-wing politics infiltrate the competition and hand the prizes to men."

- "Why are real women still participating in this competition?"

- "If women do not stand up against this,  the trans men will take over their sports and any competition designed for real women."

- "I guess women rights are no longer valid since men are taking over their gender."

[tweet]1762762347549020374[/tweet]

Odotan seuraavaksi, että loogisesti seuraavaksi Mr.Universeksi valitaan kehopositiivinen nainen. Olisi syrjivää varata se titteli pelkästään miehelle ja vaatia vielä bodaamista sen saavuttamiseksi. Moiset vaatimukset estävät esim. Fatim Diarraa saavuttamasta moista titteliä ja sehän on selkeästi syrjivää/syrjintää!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 29.02.2024, 12:50:01
Tämä! Universumi on iso paikka. Miten joku hernekeppi voisi edustaa koko universumia?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 29.02.2024, 12:57:28
Korkeintaan Miss Linnunrata! Tai Miss Solar System? Omasta aurinkokunnastahan ei ole löydetty muita eläviä, mutta Milky Waysta ei voi olla ihan varma Universumista puhumattakaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.02.2024, 13:07:25
Quote from: Caucasian on 29.02.2024, 12:05:46
En ole vieläkään tajunnut, että miten näitä ["pronomineja"] käytetään ja miksi.

Aiheuttamaan maailman kaaosta ja sekaannusta maailmanvallankumouksen edistämiseksi.

Etuliitteet Mr., Mrs. ja Ms. riittävät aivan hyvin. Jos henkilö on oikeustoimikelvoton, sitä voi ilmaista näin:

- "Mies joka kuvittelee olevansa nainen"
- "Nainen joka kuvittelee olevansa mies"
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.02.2024, 13:09:51
Quote from: P on 29.02.2024, 12:30:44
Jos joku kyselisi minulta jossain organisaatiossa pronimiinejani, esittäisin ...

... Speden pronominirockin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PbMo2KrZ28
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 02.03.2024, 00:37:53
Tästä lähtee :)
[tweet]1763655357581205839[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 03.03.2024, 06:29:20
 :)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 04.03.2024, 01:10:37
Pahinta noissa pronomineissä on että isojen firmojen tuotteet, kuten joku Microsoft Teams, kyselee joko suorasti tai epäsuorasti noita pronominejä. "Please complete your profile".

Tuntuu että tasa-arvossa ollaan menty lähinnä takapakkia, jos tommoisia pitää edes kysyä. Seuraavaksi varmaan kysytään rotua?

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 04.03.2024, 01:30:50
Quote from: Miniluv on 29.02.2024, 12:50:01
Tämä! Universumi on iso paikka. Miten joku hernekeppi voisi edustaa koko universumia?

Jos täällä niin päätetään!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moWe3rk7LzQ
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 04.03.2024, 01:37:34
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 04.03.2024, 01:10:37
Pahinta noissa pronomineissä on että isojen firmojen tuotteet, kuten joku Microsoft Teams, kyselee joko suorasti tai epäsuorasti noita pronominejä. "Please complete your profile".

Tuntuu että tasa-arvossa ollaan menty lähinnä takapakkia, jos tommoisia pitää edes kysyä. Seuraavaksi varmaan kysytään rotua?

Luultavasti. Veikkaan, että ohjelmistossa on jo siihen valmius. Ja seksuaalista suuntautumista, uskontoa, poliittista mielipidettä...

Aikaisemmin tuollaiset olivat yksityisasioita. Nyt jotenkin julkisia. Elämme kipeää aikaa. Pitkään taisteltiin siitä, että yksityiset jutut eivät ole julkisia. Esim. että työnantaja ei saa kysyä niitä. Nyt firmat pistävät kyselyitä seksuaalisista suuntauksista, etnisistä taustoista DEI-perusteella... :facepalm:

Nykyisyys on niin kipeää. Tuollaiset jaottelut ja tekoäly... :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 04.03.2024, 01:50:08
Quote from: P on 04.03.2024, 01:37:34
Aikaisemmin tuollaiset olivat yksityisasioita. Nyt jotenkin julkisia. Elämme kipeää aikaa. Pitkään taisteltiin siitä, että yksityiset jutut eivät ole julkisia. Esim. että työnantaja ei saa kysyä niitä. Nyt firmat pistävät kyselyitä seksuaalisista suuntauksista, etnisistä taustoista DEI-perusteella...

Ongelmahan on siinä että woke-aktivistit pakottavat firmat kysymään tommoisia, ja tekemään koko paskasta julkista. En oikein usko että normi firma tommoista haluaa, ellei ole täysin mädätetty.

Tähän liittyy myös oleellisesti "Code of Conduct" sekoilu. Itsestäänselvyydet pitää laittaa paperille, ja niitä valvotaan natsien lailla. Jopa itse Linus Torvalds on saanut tuta noiden vihan.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 05.03.2024, 20:32:13
Doritos sipsit ( https://www.doritos.com/products ) on Frito-Layn omistama merkki ( https://www.fritolay.com/brands ) ja PepsiCo:n tytäryhtiö.

Doritoksia myydään myös Suomessa ja on viimeisin tuotemerkki, jolle woke-pökäleet taisi lentää tuulettimeen:

QuoteOily GMO tortilla chip brand Doritos is facing widespread backlash after some genius within the Spanish arm of the company decided to hire a non-binary transgender person who appears to have previously endorsed pedophilia to sell its snacks.

...

The 'transgender artist' Samantha Hudson, formally known as Iván González Ranedo, has been given the role of brand ambassador for Doritos, and featured in a sponsored program called "Crunch Talks."

A clip was posted showing the person previously advocating for "the destruction and for the annihilation of the traditional family."

[tweet]1764724659088482349[/tweet]

...

A Newsweek report points to charges that 'Hudson' allegedly previously posted the statement "quiero hacer cosas gamberras como meterme a una nina de 12 anos por el ojete," to social media.

It translates as "I want to do thuggish things like stick a 12 year old girl up her asshole."

[tweet]1764650658886467589[/tweet]

QuoteDoritos just picked Samantha Hudson as their brand ambassador in Spain Samantha Hudson:

-Admitted to being a pedophiIe
-Identifies as a non-binary trans girl
-Openly mocked victims of child r*pe
-An advocate for "annihiIating, completely destroying, and abolishing the traditional family"

Another tweet from 2014 is said to read "In the middle of the street in Mallorca in panties and screaming that I'm a nymphomaniac in front of a super beautiful 8-year-old girl."

[tweet]1764234028901949697[/tweet]

...

Other past tweets from 'Hudson' appear to mock women who have been victims of sexual abuse, saying they should be spat at.

[tweet]1764668026748875123[/tweet]

Quote"I hate women who are victims of r*pe and who turn to self-help centers to overcome their trauma. What—heavy wh*res," he wrote. He also assured that "if a minor came to ask me for help because she is being a victim of s*xual harassment, I would spit her face."

Olisi luullut, että globaalit yritykset ympäri maailman olisivat oppineet jotain Bud Light fiaskosta ja jättäneet mielenterveyspotilaat palkkaamatta yrityksensä mainoskasvoksi, mutta ei.

Monimuotoisuuden ja inklusiviteetin nimissä Doriton Espanjan osasto päättikin palkkaa pedofiiliksi julistautuneen transun "Samantha Hudsonin" edustamaan sipsejään.

Hudson on twitterissä ollut mm. sitä mieltä, että ydinperhe pitäisi tuhota (lupasi kuitenkin olla murhaamatta vanhempiaan), persraiskaisi 12 vuotiaat tytöt ja julisti raiskauksen uhrit huoriksi, joiden kasvoille hän sylkisi.

Samantha Hudsonin arvot ovat siis kaikin puolin kohdillaan, ainakin jos kysyy woketollaheilta ja muilta insklusiviteettifasisteilta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 07.03.2024, 18:35:57
Espanjalaiset sotilaat trollaavat woke poliitikkoja:

:facepalm:

https://nypost.com/2024/03/06/world-news/spanish-soldiers-changing-gender-to-female-for-added-benefits/

QuoteSpanish soldiers are changing their gender from male to female to earn certain benefits only available to females, including higher pay and better sleeping quarters, due to a self-identification law aimed at helping transgender people.

Forty-one men in Spain's north-Africa autonomous city Ceuta have made the drastic decision to change their gender on official documents from male to female since the so-called "Ley-de-Trans" or "Trans Law" was implemented in March 2023.

Of the men in Ceuta who've changed their identity, only four have also legally changed their name. A majority of the now-female soldiers have kept every other aspect of life, including male genitalia, sexuality, and even facial hair.

"On the outside, I feel like a heterosexual man, but on the inside, I am a lesbian," Army Corporal Roberto Perdigones told Spanish newspaper El Español. "And it is the latter that counts. This is why I made the legal change to become a woman."

Those going through the "change" are doing so in hopes of promotions and raises, according to the Telegraph, citing military sources.

Perdigones says he was encouraged to change his gender because of "positive discrimination" and has since received a 15 percent salary increase.

"For changing my gender, I have been told that my pension has gone up because women get more to compensate for inequality. I also get 15 percent more salary for being a mother," he added.


The soldier is looking to use his additional privilege as a woman to sue for shared custody of his 16-year-old son, assuming the courts will give him a better chance.

Perdigones changed his gender last year, and when he arrived at the barracks in Ceuta, he did so with hair too long to meet the male requirements and earrings, which the Spanish military prohibits men from wearing.

The army corporal was even given a personal bathroom because he wasn't comfortable with sharing with either biological gender.

"I even have a private room in the barracks, all to myself, with a private bathroom. This is because I cannot be with men as I am a woman, and I did not consider it appropriate to be with biological women out of respect for them," Perdigones said.

The transgender law, which was passed by lawmakers on Dec. 22, 2022, allows individuals 14 and older to change their identity without the need for any psychological or medical evaluation, although people between the ages of 14 and 16 need a parental or guardians' agreement.

Children as young as 12 can go through the legal process of changing their gender identity, but their changes must be approved by a judge.

...

Other law enforcement agencies are seeing a rise in their members changing their genders as a form of rebellion against the law, sources told El Español.

"I have already seen several cases among my colleagues, and it is going to increase," a Civil Guard source told the newspaper. "There are quite a few people who have requested it and are in the process. So, from time to time, the number is going to be much higher."


Espanjassa säädettiin vuosi sitten laki jonka perustella voi ilmoittaa sukupuolensa ilman minkäänlaista lääketieteellistä tai psykologista arviointia. Samaan aikaan naisille on viranomaistehtävissä ja armeijassa annettu sukupuoleen kytkettyjä etuuksia kuten korkeampaa palkkaa ja eläkekertymää.

Äijät ovat päättäneet trollaa hallituksen päätöksiä "vaihtamalla" sukupuolensa, jotta he saisi paremmat edut. Eräs sotilas kertoo olevansa ulkoisesti hetero mies mutta sisäisesti lesbo. Tämän myötä hän sai palkankorotuksen ja yksityisen huoneen kasarmilla.

Nykyisessä vasemmistohulluuden klovnimaailmassa missä mikään ei enää päde, kannatan tällaista aktivismia. Typeriä ja harhaisia poliitikkoja pitää trollaa ja tehdä naurunalaisiksi aina kun mahdollista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 08.03.2024, 12:17:27

Huoooh.  :roll:

QuoteSukupuolen moninaisuus on otettava huomioon lasten ja nuorten urheilussa
Lasten ja nuorten liian vähäinen liikunta huolestuttaa syystä. Yksi tapa reagoida asiaan on vähemmistöjen huomioon ottaminen.

2:00
LAPSENI harrasti joukkueurheilua vuosia. Nyt hän on lopettanut harrastuksensa. Syy oli se, että hänen lajissaan joukkueet jaetaan syntymässä oletetun sukupuolen perusteella. Koska lapseni sukupuoli ei vastaa tätä oletusta, hän ei löytänyt joukkuetta, johon voisi kuulua.

Monissa lajeissa jako tyttö- ja poikajoukkueisiin tehdään jo paljon ennen murrosikää. Tuolloin jaolle ei ole fyysisiä perusteita.

Mihin joukkueeseen liittyy lapsi tai nuori, jonka sukupuoli ei vastaa syntymässä määriteltyä? Onko urheiluseuroja, joissa on omia joukkueita translapsille ja -nuorille tai esimerkiksi muunsukupuolisille?

Lasten ja nuorten liian vähäinen liikunta huolestuttaa syystä. Yksi tapa reagoida asiaan on vähemmistöjen huomioon ottaminen. Urheiluseurojen tulisikin kertoa avoimesti, miten sukupuolen moninaisuus otetaan käytännössä huomioon lasten ja nuorten harrastustoiminnassa.

Liikunnan – myös kilpaurheilun – ilo kuuluu nimittäin kaikille lapsille ja nuorille sekä kaikille sukupuolille.

Urheilijan vanhempi

https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000010271038.html (https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000010271038.html)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 08.03.2024, 12:30:38
Quote from: Uuno Nuivanen on 08.03.2024, 12:17:27

Huoooh.  :roll:

QuoteSukupuolen moninaisuus on otettava huomioon lasten ja nuorten urheilussa
Lasten ja nuorten liian vähäinen liikunta huolestuttaa syystä. Yksi tapa reagoida asiaan on vähemmistöjen huomioon ottaminen.

2:00
LAPSENI harrasti...
https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000010271038.html (https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000010271038.html)

Hiukan haiskahtaa Kaarisateelle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 08.03.2024, 12:52:33
^ pitäisikö siis olla Lbtgjne sarjat ja joukkueet?
Paikallisderby Transtappara vs Gaylves?  :o
Vakavasti puhuen kyllä ne joukkueet tulee edelleen jakaa fyysisten edellytysten eli kromosomien mukaan xx ja xy sarjoihin.
Toisaalta joku ammuntahan voisi hyvinkin olla sukupuolineutraali urheilu. Miten muuten e-urheilu? Näyttäisi olevan pelkkää xy jengiä niissä? Että lajit joissa voima ei ratkaise niin miksi sarjat eri sukupuolille?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.03.2024, 13:00:25
^Jos joku tyttö/nainen haluaisi itse pelata miesten sarjassa jostain syystä, eikä sitä kukaan vastustaisi, eikä vaatisi mitään omia pukuhuoneita jos niitä ei valmiiksi ole, niin en minä sellaista vastustaisi.

Toisinpäin vastustan, tietenkin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: SatuSetä on 08.03.2024, 13:21:43
Quote from: Caucasian on 08.03.2024, 12:52:33
^ pitäisikö siis olla Lbtgjne sarjat ja joukkueet?
Paikallisderby Transtappara vs Gaylves?  :o
Vakavasti puhuen kyllä ne joukkueet tulee edelleen jakaa fyysisten edellytysten eli kromosomien mukaan xx ja xy sarjoihin.
Toisaalta joku ammuntahan voisi hyvinkin olla sukupuolineutraali urheilu. Miten muuten e-urheilu? Näyttäisi olevan pelkkää xy jengiä niissä? Että lajit joissa voima ei ratkaise niin miksi sarjat eri sukupuolille?

Vaikken urheilua erityisemmin seuraakaan, niin lähes kaikissa lajeissa on yleinen sarja ja naisten sarja.
Jopa shakissa on yleinen sarja ja naisten sarja. Naisilla ei ole kovin kovaa tunkua siinäkään lajissa ollut sinne yleiselle puolelle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 08.03.2024, 13:52:03
Quote from: SatuSetä on 08.03.2024, 13:21:43
Quote from: Caucasian on 08.03.2024, 12:52:33
^ pitäisikö siis olla Lbtgjne sarjat ja joukkueet?
Paikallisderby Transtappara vs Gaylves?  :o
Vakavasti puhuen kyllä ne joukkueet tulee edelleen jakaa fyysisten edellytysten eli kromosomien mukaan xx ja xy sarjoihin.
Toisaalta joku ammuntahan voisi hyvinkin olla sukupuolineutraali urheilu. Miten muuten e-urheilu? Näyttäisi olevan pelkkää xy jengiä niissä? Että lajit joissa voima ei ratkaise niin miksi sarjat eri sukupuolille?

Vaikken urheilua erityisemmin seuraakaan, niin lähes kaikissa lajeissa on yleinen sarja ja naisten sarja.
Jopa shakissa on yleinen sarja ja naisten sarja. Naisilla ei ole kovin kovaa tunkua siinäkään lajissa ollut sinne yleiselle puolelle.
Omituista on, että myös kokkauskisoissa miehet yleensä huipulla. Luulisi, että siinä lajissa puntit olisivat vähintäänkin tasan. (Siis ammattilaisten, ei mitään kokosuomileipoo)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Rasvari on 15.03.2024, 15:14:34
Alan Wakekin on joutunut mankeliin, mitäpä muutakaan kun tämä kuin matalamielistä nöyristelyä. Saga Anderson kuulostaa juurikin tyypilliseltä mustan naisen nimeltä.
Quote
Peliyhteisö tuohtui mustasta naishahmosta suomalaispelissä ja synnytti salaliittoteorian, josta kiinnostui myös Elon Musk

Suomalainen pelitalo Remedy teki Alan Wake 2 -pelin kehittämisessä yhteistyötä inklusiivisuuteen erikoistuneen konsulttiyhtiön kanssa. Osa tietokonepelaajista näkee tämän merkkinä pelialan mädänneisyydestä.

Remedyllä on askarreltu Sweet Baby-konsulttifirman kanssa ja he ovat tehneet loistavan suosituksen vaihtaa toinen päähahmo valkoisesta mustaksi koska DEI ja ESG.
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Alan Wake 2 -videopelissä on hahmo, jonka nimi on Saga Anderson. Saga on yliluonnollisia kykyjä omaava FBI-agentti. Hän on toinen pelin pelattavista hahmoista. Häntä näyttelee Melanie Liburd, joka on musta nainen.

Viime vuoden jälkipuolella muutamissa internetin peliyhteisöissä alettiin kiinnittää huomiota Saga Andersoniin. Osa pelaajista ihmetteli, että miksi pelihahmo oli musta nainen. Saga Andersonin kuulostaa juurikin tyypilliseltä mustan naisen nimeltä.

Jo ennen pelin julkaisua keskustelupalstoilla kaivettiin esille kuvia ja videoita Remedy Gamesin kahdeksan vuotta sitten julkaisemasta Quantum Break -pelistä. Yhdellä peliin piilotetuista videoista kiusoitellaan Alan Waken jatko-osalla. Tässä muutaman minuutin mittaisessa videossa näkyy Saga Andersoniksi nimetty FBI-agentti. Häntä esittää näyttelijä Malla Malmivaara eli valkoinen nainen.

En ole tiedä mutta jos Malla Malmivaara on yhtä tiedostava kuin naisnäyttelijät Suomessa keskimäärin hän on vain hyvillään annettuaan paikkansa Melanie Liburdille.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20079270

Edit: niitä typoja
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 16.03.2024, 14:15:45
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.02.2024, 10:57:08
"Miss Netherlands and Portugal are two trans men. What do you think?"

Me thinks, että mahtaa olla hassua missikisojen pukuhuoneessa, jos noilla on vielä pippelit.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 16.03.2024, 14:49:55
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 08.03.2024, 13:00:25
^Jos joku tyttö/nainen haluaisi itse pelata miesten sarjassa jostain syystä, eikä sitä kukaan vastustaisi, eikä vaatisi mitään omia pukuhuoneita jos niitä ei valmiiksi ole, niin en minä sellaista vastustaisi.

Toisinpäin vastustan, tietenkin.

Maalivahti Noora Räty pelasi aikanaan miesten sarjassa lätkää, kun naisten sarjassa ei löytynyt tarpeeksi haastetta.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.03.2024, 20:58:24
Tähän se woketushulluus ilman rotutietoisuutta johtaa.

Quote from: https://people.com/crime/ark-woman-befriended-moms-killer-out-of-spiritual-obligation-and-then-he-murdered-her/Ark. Woman Befriended Mom's Killer Out of 'Spiritual Obligation' — and then He Murdered Her

Martha McKay was kind to Travis Lewis, who was convicted and released after he killed her mother and cousin in 1996

May 8, 2020
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.03.2024, 12:19:10
Quote from: https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/turku/art-2000010301828.htmlTutkija esitti suomalaisille kasan woke-väitteitä – Yksi ryhmä erottui muista

Kolme viidestä naisesta vastasi tutkimuksen väitteisiin "wokesti", mutta miehillä vastaava luku oli vain yksi seitsemästä. Mitä enemmän vastaaja oli vasemmalla, sitä "wokempi" hän oli.

Naiset ovat merkittävästi miehiä tiedostavampia woke-asioissa, kertoo Turun yliopiston erikoistutkijan Oskari Lahtisen tuore tutkimus.

Wokella tarkoitetaan suomeksi hereillä olemista tai tiedostavuutta. Lahtinen kutsuu tutkimuksessaan woke-asenteita kriittisen sosiaalisen oikeudenmukaisuuden asenteiksi.
...
Kolme viidestä naisesta suhtautui väitteisiin "wokesti", mutta miehillä vastaava luku oli vain yksi seitsemästä.

"Miesten torjuva vastauskäyttäytyminen on hyvin selkeää. Mittarin perusteella miehet eivät ole 'woke'", Lahtinen kuvailee.

Loput linkistä. Samasta artikkelista kirjoitti jäsen @Totti .

Tutkimus: Vasemmistoaktivismilla yhteys narsismiin ja psykopatiaan
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,134240.msg3552995.html#msg3552995
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 20.03.2024, 13:05:36
Oma taustani ja koulutukseni on luonnontieteiden puolella.  Niissä ei riitä, että teoriat ovat johdonmukaisia, vaan niiden tueksi pitää löytyä selkeästi ja yksikäsitteisesti mitattavia ja tulkittavia havaintoja. Toki luonnotieteidenkiin puolella spekuloidaan teorioilla, joille ei (vielä?) ole minkäänlaista kokeellista tukea (esim. säieteoria (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A4ieteoria)).  Niistä voi olla apua toimivan teorian löytämisessä, mutta kaikki tunnustavat ne kuitenkin spekulaatioksi, eikä niitä sovelleta ensimmäiseksi, kun yritetään selittää uusia havaintoja tai kehittää uusia teknisiä sovelluksia.  Eli spekuloijat tietävät spekuloivansa, eivätkä yritä puhua suuta suuremmalla.

Sosiologian piirissä taas vaikuttaa siltä, että teorian (esim. 1 (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersektionaalisuus) ja 2 (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriittinen_rotuteoria)) yleiseen hyväksymiseen riittää, että se on sisäisesti johdonmukainen, eikä sitä vastaan löydy sellaisia kumoavia argumentteja, joihin kaikki voivat yhtyä. 

Ulkopuolisesta sosiologinen tutkimus vaikuttaa siten usein teorioiden kauneuskilpailulta, jonka voittajia sovelletaan valitettavan kritiikittömästi jopa hallinnollisiin päätöksiin.  Aika usein soveltajien sormi tuntuu työntyvän paskaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.03.2024, 13:19:10
[tweet]1769711758107922433[/tweet]

Quote from: konekäännösWoke on mielen sairauden muoto, jota päätimme pitää poliittisena mielipiteenä, koska kenenkään on vaikea kertoa naisille, että he ovat hulluja.

En tietenkään tarkoita, että kaikki naiset olisivat hulluja. Mutta woke on ensisijaisesti naisten mielenterveysongelma, jota päätimme käsitellä samanlaisena mielipiteenä.

Se on lähempänä itsensä vahingoittamista, kuten itsensä leikkely.

Samat asiat kuin HS:n jutussa.

Quote'Woke' people more likely to be unhappy, anxious and depressed, new study suggests

Hannah Sparks | March 17, 2024

Is ignorance bliss?

Psychological researchers in Finland have created an assessment to help measure an individual's commitment to principles of social justice and made some surprising findings across the Finnish population — including a negative correlation between progressive ideals and levels of happiness.

Their findings, published in the Scandinavian Journal of Psychology, suggest other Western nations may see similar patterns among their socially conscious citizens.

Study author Oskari Lahtinen, a senior researcher at the INVEST Research Flagship Centre at the University of Turku, remarked that the "woke" discourse has since worked its way into Finnish discourse.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 21.03.2024, 10:35:17
Molaritube ottaa kantaa turun woke-tutkimukseen ja huumorin sävyttämänä tarkastelee wokea muutenkin, tarkastelun kesto 18:33.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3hlqIguzPQ

Woken ajelijat tietävät hyvin harrasteensa vähämielisyyden, mikä tuli esille jo alussa kun woken väitettiin olevan ääärioikeiston keksintöä eikä todellisuutta.
Nyt kun tuo vähämielisyys on levinnyt laajemmalle niin sitä ei enää osata/haluta/tarvitse hävetä.
Ahdasmielistä ajattelua ja kaavoihin pakottamista myydään liberalismina, joka sanana on kokenut saman ylösalaisin kääntämisen kuin arkinen suvaitsevaisuus.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.03.2024, 10:48:16
Quote from: ämpee on 21.03.2024, 10:35:17Ahdasmielistä ajattelua ja kaavoihin pakottamista myydään liberalismina, joka sanana on kokenut saman ylösalaisin kääntämisen kuin arkinen suvaitsevaisuus.

Jeps.

"Suvaitsevaisuus" on englanniksi tolerance, jonka ensisijainen merkitys on jonkin vastenmielisen asian sietokyky. Mutta nykyään suvaitsevaisuus tarkoittaakin perkeleellisten paskakulttuurien  kritiikitöntä hyväksymistä ja arvostamista!

Annetaan wikipedia kertoa.

QuoteSuvaitsevaisuus tai suvaitsevuus tarkoittaa käsitteen alkuperäisen määritelmän mukaan sellaisen asian suvaitsemista (eli sietämistä, sallimista ja hyväksymistä) jota itse
- paheksuu ja
- vierastaa ja
- pitää vähemmän hyvänä, jopa
- vääränä.

Siihen kuuluu asenteena vieraiden tapojen ja uskomusten paheksunta, ajatteluprosessina vastakkaisten moraalisten tekijöiden punnitseminen, sekä toimintana salliminen ja puuttumattomuus.

Uudemmassa määritelmässä, joka poikkeaa klassisesta määritelmästä ja on myös ristiriidassa sen kanssa, suvaitsevaisuus nähdään
- arvostamisena
, ja siihen kuuluu
- myönteinen suhtautuminen erilaisuuteen, monimuotoisuuteen, vieraisiin tapoihin ja uskomuksiin,
- joustava ajattelu,
- avomielisyys ja
- ennakkoluulottomuus, sekä
- hyväksyntä ja tunnustuksen antaminen.

Eli siis tämänkin sanan merkityksen mädättäjät ovat onnistuneet kääntämään päälaelleen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 22.03.2024, 13:03:28
ˆˆˆ   Tuolla Lallin graafeissa oli woke-väittämä, joka meni jotakuinkin näin:

"Etuoikeutetun ryhmän jäsenet voivat ottaa käyttöön vähemmän etuoikeutetun ryhmän kulttuurisia piirteitä".


Niin paljon on jo vettä virrannut jordaanissa ja olen tämän maailman positiivista erityiskohtelua katsellut, että tutkin tuon kysymyksen tuloksia hetken silmät teevatina.

Nimittäin aivoni käänsi tuon niin, että maahantulijoilla on niin paljoin kaikkia erityisoikeuksia ja ihmisoikeuksia, että minun mielestäni etuoikeutetulla tarkoitettiin Suomessa muslimeja, somaleja, arabeja etc.

Mutta ei.

Toisilla on muka kuvitteellinen sisäänrakennettu etuoikeus, mutta sitä nimenomaan woke-aatteen ja intersektionaalisen feminismin ajamana kompensoidaan tuottamalla verorahoilla vähemmistöille todellisia etuoikeuksia.

On se hassua, miten tuonkin kysymyksen voi tulkita näin oikeinväärin.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.03.2024, 05:56:27
Hommalla oli joskus mainittu se kun USA:n asevoimiin pyrkivien valkoisten määrä on laskenut. Pitkän päälle tuo aiheuttaa hankaluuksia sotiminen ei onnistu ilman valkoisia.

Ilkka Vakkuri on maininnut sen kun konservatiiviset kristityt eivät halua pyrkiä asevoimiin, kun siellä on luovuttu aiemmasta Don't ask, don't tell-periaatteesta. Konservatiivikristittyjä ei huvita olla samoissa sotilasosastoissa homojen tai transsukupuolisten kanssa.

West Point Changed Its Mission Statement. The US military Will Suffer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CD27duWsBk
QuoteWest Point, one of the most prestigious military academies in the world, changed it's mission statement, removing the words "Duty, Honor, Country." And some are saying that's a sign West Point—and the US military, has gone woke.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.03.2024, 09:30:26
Kopioin tämän tännekin.

Aivan hulvaton! Me kaikki normaalit ollaan nyt rasisteja!

[tweet]1771934645380100570[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 25.03.2024, 09:50:58
Quote from: Siili on 24.03.2024, 19:09:15
Paljon on väännetty transnaisten oikeudesta osallistua naisten urheilusarjoihin.
...
Kirjoittaja Hooven on itse nainen, joten tulee olemaan mielenkiintoista seurata, miten feministit ja "aakkosväki" suhtautuvat hänen ulostuloonsa.

Tuon (toisessa kejussa julkaisemani) viestin jälkeen löysin tämän artikkelin, jossa Hooven kertoo oman näkemyksensä siitä, kuinka hänet savustettiin ulos Harvardin yliopistosta, suksien mentyä ristiin DEI-porukan kanssa.

https://www.thefp.com/p/carole-hooven-why-i-left-harvard
QuoteCarole Hooven: Why I Left Harvard
After I stated banal facts about human biology, I found myself caught in a DEI web, without the support to do the job I loved. The only way out was to leave...

Quote
In the brief segment on Fox, my troubles began when I described how biologists define male and female, and argued that these are invaluable terms that science educators in particular should not relinquish in response to pressure from ideologues.

Harvardin hallinnon DEI-väki näki moisen selkeiden biologisten termien käytön puolustuksen transfobisena hyökkäyksenä:

QuoteThe director of our task force was a graduate student; I'll just use her first name, Laura. Shortly after my appearance on Fox, I learned of a tweet from her that read, "As the Director of the Diversity and Inclusion Task Force for my dept @HarvardHEB, I am appalled and frustrated by the transphobic and harmful remarks made by a member of my dept in this interview with Fox and Friends." Attached to the tweet was a clip of my Fox and Friends appearance.

Hooven vastasi tweettiin, ja tuota sanailua referoitiin sitten laajemminkin, mikä johti eskalaatioon:

QuoteOur Twitter interaction received media coverage not only from within Harvard, but in international news outlets such as the Daily Mail, the New York Post, and The Australian, often with clickbait headlines: "Harvard professor who refuses to use the term 'pregnant people' and insists on 'woman' is accused of transphobia by her woke Ivy colleague." (I had said nothing about these terms.) Current and previous members of my department publicly accused me on social media of intentionally harming Laura, "punching down," and threatening the safety of the "community," particularly undergraduates.

Artikkeli kertoo tarkemmin Hoovenin näkemyksen tästä eskalaatiosta.  Melkoinen hulabaloo vain sen takia, että biologi puolustaa selkeää kielenkäyttöä biologiasta keskusteltaessa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 25.03.2024, 19:38:45
Yksilöillä on siis oikeus todeta, että sukupuolia on monia. Mutta auta armias jos joku uskaltaa todeta, että sukupuolia on kaksi, niin saa osakseen törkyä ja vihapuhetta, koska on niin suvaitsematon henkilö.

Noiden Woke henkilöiden toiminta on suoraan vanhasta sanonnasta:
"En voi sietää suvaitsemattomia ihmisiä!" eikä siinä nähdä mitään ristiriitaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.03.2024, 23:43:55
USA käy sotaa lapsiaan vastaan Bidenin johdolla. Tucker kertoo. 6 minuuttia. Kannattaa katsoa.

Leffan trailer täällä: https://thewaronchildren.com/ . 3 minuuttia. Kannattaa katsoa.
Leffa on  maksullinen.

[tweet]1770931641176793160[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 26.03.2024, 01:40:14
Viisastelu: Itärajalla kytee | Rasisminvastainen miekkari alakoulussa | Tutkimus: vasurit wokeimpia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzIQGfzV9S4
Quote00:00:00 Alku
00:01:42 Itärajalla kytee – mitä on tehtävissä?
00:17:35 Kiinteistöverotus pamahtaa kohta omistajan niskaan!
00:34:41 Lakko-corner
00:49:20 Woke-ranking julki, vasemmisto voitti
00:54:06 Rasisminvastainen mielenosoitus alakoulussa
01:06:17 Miesten pitää olla naisellisia, sitten on hyvä
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 26.03.2024, 09:10:03
Woke porukka on sekalainen joukkio joita yhdistää viha valkoista hetero miestä kohtaan. Ilman vihan kohdetta tuo porukka repisi toistensa kurkut auki.

Yhteinen vihollinen yhdistää tehokkaasti. Syyllistä omista kuvitelluista, tai oikeista ongelmistasi tietyn ihonpigmentin (vaaleanpunainen), seksuaalisen suuntauksen (hetero) ja sukupuolen (koiras) edustajaa. Kuka neropatti on saanut syötettyä tuon ajatuksen näille wokeen uskoville? Näppärästi samalla hyökätään yhtä vahvinta yhteiskunnan korttitalon tukipalkkia vastaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 26.03.2024, 10:35:46
QuoteKuka neropatti on saanut syötettyä tuon ajatuksen näille wokeen uskoville?

Olikohan jokin maslovin tarvehierarkia?? Monilla länsimaisella pullamössö pennulla on asiat niin hyvin, että riittää aikaa ja tarmoa ruveta toimimaan näin.

Ja taas tulee se oikofobia!!

https://www.suomenperusta.fi/ajatus/oikofobia-lansimaisen-itseinhon-jaljilla/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 26.03.2024, 12:25:01
 :silakka:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.03.2024, 12:59:27
Quote from: qwerty on 05.04.2023, 20:25:56
Kanada jatkaa edistyksellisellä linjalla. Friikkien kutsuminen friikeiksi on tästä lähtien rikos.
[tweet]1643645659558412288[/tweet]

Trudeaulla ei mene hyvin. Siis ennusteiden mukaan. Poilievre antaa tässä erinomaisen näytteen haastateltava olemista. Vastaa useimpiin kysymyksiin vastakysymyksellä "kuka niin väittää" tms. Lopuksi oma agenda esiin.

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QuotePaul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 @Bubblebathgirl

The pendulum is swinging back to the right in Canada and not a moment too soon.

Things are getting dire up there with censorship and taxes.

The upcoming tax increase is likely the last straw for many Canadians.

Pierre Poilievre will quickly head Canada back towards sanity.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 28.03.2024, 22:33:02
Ainakin voi sanoa, että pedofiileillä, itsensäpaljastajilla, ym. perversseillä menee nyt paremmin jenkkilässä. Kun 10 vuotta sitten koulun pihaa tuijottaneelle pedolle soitettiin poliisi paikalle, niin ainakin nimi otettiin ylös ja jos oli taustaa, niin häkki heilui. Samoin anorakin aukaisijoille helposti tuli häkkiä. Nyt nämä samat pervot saavat mennä naisten pukuhuoneisiin ja suihkutiloihin ihan vapaasti toteuttamaan itseään.

En tiedä onko legendaa vai totta, mutta yhdessä tubevideossa kerrottiin, että kun huolestunut äiti soitti poliisille tällaisen vehkeiden heiluttajan takia, niin joutui itse kuullusteltavaksi. En kyllä epäile, ettei olisi totta. Sen verran sekopäiseksi on meno yltynyt. Ja sama tulee kohta Suomeen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 29.03.2024, 15:35:29
Suomen uutisissa mielenkiintoinen artikkeli aiheesta intersektionaalisuus ja woke pseudotieteenä. Otin tähän lyhyet lainaukset Marko Hamilon artikkelista sekä alkuperäisestä Ari Helon tutkimuksesta. En ole itse vielä lukenut alkuperäistä tutkimusta läpi, mutta tässä on pääsiäispyhät hyvää aikaa tavata sekin alusta loppuun. Kuinkahan kauan muuten menee, että oikeat tutkijat(tm) tulevat mediaan tyrmäämään tutkimuksen annin. Itsekritiikki ei ole ollut intersektionaalisuuden ja woken puolestapuhujien vahvuus jos kauniisti sanotaan. ;D

SU.fi: Nyt se on akateemisesti todistettu: intersektionaalisuus on pseudotiedettä
QuoteSuomalainen aatehistorian ja poliittisen kulttuurin tutkija osoitti, että intersektionaalinen rotuteoria perustuu virheelliselle oletukselle länsimaisen kulttuurin rasistisuudesta. Intersektionaalisuus tutkii nykyaikaa ikään kuin länsimaat eivät olisi koskaan luopuneet siirtomaista tai lakkauttaneet orjuutta. Tiedetoimittaja Marko Hamilo arvioi Ari Helon tuoretta tutkimusta intersektionaalisuudesta Suomessa ja Yhdysvalloissa.
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/nyt-se-on-akateemisesti-todistettu-intersektionaalisuus-on-pseudotiedetta/ (https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/nyt-se-on-akateemisesti-todistettu-intersektionaalisuus-on-pseudotiedetta/)

Ari Helo: Intersektionaalista vai "valkoista" ylivaltaa? : Syrjäytymiskeskustelun vääristymät Suomessa ja Yhdysvalloissa
QuoteTeos selvittää muodikkaan intersektionaalisuuden ja sille keskeisen valkoisuusparadigman tieteellistä merkitystä. Aihetta tarkastellaan sisältöanalyysin keinoin niin suomalaisen kuin yhdysvaltalaisen valtatutkimuksen, sosiologian, kulttuurintutkimuksen, historiantutkimuksen, koulutuspolitiikan ja yhteiskuntakeskustelun kautta.

Teoksessa osoitetaan paitsi valkoisuusparadigma myös intersektionaalinen ajattelu kauttaaltaan ongelmalliseksi tavaksi tutkia syrjäytyneisyyttä, länsimaisia valtarakenteita, vähemmistö- ja enemmistöidentiteettejä sekä ihmistieteitä ja
yhteiskuntatieteitä yleisesti. Syyksi osoittautuu, että intersektionaalinen ajattelu rikkoo lähes kaikkia perinteisen tieteellisen tutkimusajattelun metodologisia rajoitteita. Huolimatta suuresta suosiostaan se ei edusta pätevää argumentaation tapaa, saati tieteellistä ajattelua.
https://helda.helsinki.fi/server/api/core/bitstreams/85031684-72e4-4c31-8ebc-650d1267dda5/content
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.03.2024, 15:40:23
^341 sivua. Tiivistän: intersektuaalisuus on perinteistä rasismia, jossa ihmiset jaetaan eri ryhmiin (etuoikeusluokkiin, mm. rotuun), ja kohdellaan jaon perusteella eri tavoilla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 29.03.2024, 18:38:30
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.02.2024, 10:57:08
"Miss Netherlands and Portugal are two trans men. What do you think?"

- "Only left-wing politics infiltrate the competition and hand the prizes to men."

- "Why are real women still participating in this competition?"

- "If women do not stand up against this,  the trans men will take over their sports and any competition designed for real women."
Tuon kyseisen Miss Universe - systeemin osti 2022 joku LGBTQ aktivisti. Ja kun transnaiset otettiin mukaan kisaan, niin yllättäen kansa ja mainostajat eivät haukkoneetkaan henkeään innostuksesta, vaan enemmänkin inhotuksesta ja homma meni konkkaan. Olisi kannattanut ottaa oppia Bud Light -casesta.

Edit linkki:
https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/miss-universe-jude-says-bankruptcy-due-to-outrage-over-transgender-organiser-4581682
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 30.03.2024, 13:30:59
Quote from: Rasvari on 15.03.2024, 15:14:34
Remedyllä on askarreltu Sweet Baby-konsulttifirman kanssa ja he ovat tehneet loistavan suosituksen vaihtaa toinen päähahmo valkoisesta mustaksi koska DEI ja ESG
Kyseinen wokea kaikkeen tunkeva konsulttilafka on isossa osassa tässä asiaa laajemmin kartoittavassa koosteessa YT Sydney Watson: Gaming journalists are a disease (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRIjJTiE1cg) (28 min)

Nippelipoimintana linkatusta. Ei pikseleitä fascisteille huumoriryhmä on onnistunut tekemään diilin EA:n kanssa. Toivottavasti vain saksalaisille markkinoille. EA:n änäri on jo neekeröity, kun yleisöstä jotain puolet on muun näköisiä kuin siellä oikeasti on. Kohta varmaan keksivät lisätä tuohon Lämäri henkisen lopun, jossa homppelit sirklailevat pelkissä munasuojissa....
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 31.03.2024, 16:14:27
Tämä on ... mielenkiintoinen ... kansallisaarteen (Alex Stein) ... performanssi! Saakos Suomen valtuustoissa puhua, jos ei ole valtuutettu.

[tweet]1774052493162680689[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 31.03.2024, 16:15:04
Samaa vittuilua suoraan päin naamaa:

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Karjala on 31.03.2024, 18:27:15
Tässä nostot Lahtisen Oskarin tutkimuksesta joka ei ilmestynyt suomeksi:

(Finns -sanalla Lahtinen ei harhaankohtavasti näköjään tarkoita suomalaisia, vaan perussuomalaisia).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.04.2024, 13:10:06
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 09.01.2024, 13:01:35
Quote from: konekäännösESG on Blackrockin ja Vanguardin käyttämä järjestelmä kiristääkseen yrityksiä ottamaan käyttöön woke-käytäntöjä.
Quote from: https://www.nordea.com/fi/uutiset/mika-on-esgESG – ympäristö, yhteiskuntavastuu ja hyvä hallintotapa
ESG on lyhenne englannin kielen sanoista Environmental, Social ja Governance. Sillä tarkoitetaan ympäristöön, yhteiskuntavastuuseen ja hallintotapaan liittyviä asioita.

ESG:tä laajennetaan yrityksistä yksityisiin. Tervetuloa helvettiin.

[tweet]1773414941812310028[/tweet]

https://twitter.com/OwenGregorian/status/1774414554199388273

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/03/29/did-you-know-that-you-have-an-esg-score-and-it-can-be-used-against-you-n3785574 (pdf-liite)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.04.2024, 13:18:09
^Jatkoa.

Quote from: https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/03/29/did-you-know-that-you-have-an-esg-score-and-it-can-be-used-against-you-n3785574Did You Know That You Have an ESG Score and it Can Be Used Against You?

David Strom | March 29, 2024

Until today, I didn't realize that individuals are now being assigned ESG scores that some institutions use to decide whether they will do business with a person.
...
But I didn't know that an industry has sprung up to analyze individuals' purchases, carbon footprint, and other characteristics to inform banks and other businesses regarding whether they should do business with you.

It is a full-scale social credit system being built out. Only it isn't the government per se doing this, but rather companies that aggregate information about you and sell it to actors who want to isolate dissenters from their ideological commitments.
...
This is dystopian, and the dystopia is being built before our eyes.
...
The same people promote personal ESG scores as corporate ESG scores, and using those personal ESG scores has become part of measuring corporate "responsibility." You can't be called a good corporate citizen if you don't impose ESG values on your customers, and Blackrock will punish you.

So corporations do it. To YOU.
...
    During the assessment process, your personal ESG score is calculated based on three main factors: environmental, social, and governance. Your purchase history, sales history, and public records, such as your credit report, are considered to gauge your impact on the environment and society. This process helps highlight areas where you can improve your ESG performance or showcase your dedication toward sustainable and ethical practices.
...
This is totalitarian.
...
Did I say that this was dystopian?

If not: THIS IS F'ING DYSTOPIAN. It is an amalgamation of 1984, Brave New World, and Xi Jinping's Wet Dream.

ESG ratings are based on measuring behaviors, investments, habits, and other actions gathered from various public sources. Your score may be adjusted depending on various factors, including the company's policies from which your score is delivered.

Some things you may need to calculate your score are:

        A list of your investments.
        A general calculation of how many miles you travel via car and public transport.
        The energy you use each month (electricity, gas, etc.).
        Your cryptocurrency profile.
        Your food consumption numbers.
        Your organic and environmental effort profile.
        And other metrics.

One of the most bizarre things about living in the post-Soviet world is seeing how Marxists have coopted the efficiency of capitalism with the totalitarianism of the mid-20th-century tyrants to create a totally new and far more effective version of what Hitler and Stalin hoped to create but failed to.

Apparently, Hitler and Stalin's problem was that technology still didn't exist to dominate every aspect of our lives. Klaus Schwab and Larry Fink have figured out how to use managerial capitalist liberalism to revolutionize society into an anthill where incentives created by an elite can nudge us to behave exactly as they like.

Want a loan? Give up your guns, your voice, and your desire not to eat bugs.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 01.04.2024, 20:22:36
Saksan jalkapallomaajoukkueen pelipaidoista löydettiin taidokkaasti natsiviittauksia:

Quote
Tästä kuvasta nousi natsikohu – Adidas reagoi heti

Saksan maajoukkueen pelipaidoista nousi kohu

Kyse on tavasta, jolla numero 4 on Adidaksen valmistamissa pelipaidoissa muotoiltu. Monen mielestä numero muistuttaa liikaa natsi-Saksan SS-joukkojen logoa.

https://www.iltalehti.fi/jalkapallo/a/3e3643e6-4ce0-4455-b74f-d856a590e8d3

Typerä Adidas alkoi pyydellä heti anteeksi. Haloo! Eihän tuo numerofontti ole varmasti suunniteltu pelkästään Saksan paitoja varten, vaan samaa fonttia käytetään muissakin Adidaksen uusissa pelipaidoissa.

Eiköhän jokunen uusnatsi ole ehtinyt jo hankkia 44-paidan, kun oikein muistutettiin ;D


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.04.2024, 18:39:38
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.01.2024, 01:15:17
Quote from: https://twitter.com/MatiasTurkkila/status/1745586334134091987Vasemmiston logiikkaa tai woke-kehikkoa ei voi mallintaa insinööritermein...

Quote from: https://twitter.com/hnnikinen3/status/1775144029241373038Timo Hännikäinen @hnnikinen3

Usein ihmetellään, miksi somevasemmisto valehtelee jatkuvasti. Se johtuu siitä, että tuota porukkaa ei yksinkertaisesti kiinnosta mikä on totta ja mikä ei. Se haluaa vain hokea ulkoa opeteltuja poliittisia iskusanoja. On ajanhukkaa yrittää kommunikoida sen kanssa asiallisesti.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Keza on 02.04.2024, 21:25:54
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 23.03.2024, 05:56:27
Hommalla oli joskus mainittu se kun USA:n asevoimiin pyrkivien valkoisten määrä on laskenut. Pitkän päälle tuo aiheuttaa hankaluuksia sotiminen ei onnistu ilman valkoisia.

Ilkka Vakkuri on maininnut sen kun konservatiiviset kristityt eivät halua pyrkiä asevoimiin, kun siellä on luovuttu aiemmasta Don't ask, don't tell-periaatteesta. Konservatiivikristittyjä ei huvita olla samoissa sotilasosastoissa homojen tai transsukupuolisten kanssa.

West Point Changed Its Mission Statement. The US military Will Suffer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CD27duWsBk
QuoteWest Point, one of the most prestigious military academies in the world, changed it's mission statement, removing the words "Duty, Honor, Country." And some are saying that's a sign West Point—and the US military, has gone woke.

Yksi lisätekijä on se, että USA:n armeijan koulujen opetussuunnitelma on varsin woke, monet konservatiivisemmat valkoiset, jotka aiemmin olivat suurin/2. suurin värväytyjäryhmä, eivät halua lapsiaan woke kouluihin. USA:ssa monet varuskunnat ovat tosi suuria ja niillä on sotilaiden lapsille omat koulut.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 03.04.2024, 00:27:13
Saamelaismaalauksesta tehty kohu on aiheena tämänkertaisella 23 videolla.

Katariina Souri: Odotan anteeksipyyntöä Lux Helsingiltä | Heikelä & Koskelo 23 minuuttia | 864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvekUyaCWV4
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.04.2024, 07:32:05
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 03.04.2024, 00:27:13
Katariina Souri: Odotan anteeksipyyntöä Lux Helsingiltä | Heikelä & Koskelo 23 minuuttia | 864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvekUyaCWV4

Kuvataiteilija Souri tulee perinteisten vasemmistopiirien ulkopuolelta, ja on siksi joutunut puolestauhriutuvien vasemmistobyrokraattien taiteellisen sabotoinnin kohteeksi. Grynderivihreät taiteilijapiirit ovat olleet loukkaantuvinaan siitä, että Souri kehtasi maalata kuvan lappalaisesta, jota heijastettiin Helsingin LUX-tapahtumassa Senaatintorin rakennusten seiniin.

Minulle on edelleen epäselvää miten Souri ylipäätään pääsi LUX-projektiin mukaan, mutta ehkä sekin vielä selviää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 03.04.2024, 23:20:43
Roomeo ja Juulia on tunnetusti Shakespearen kirjoittama tragedia, joka sijoittuu 1500-luvun Italian Veronaan ja Mantuaan.

Siitä ollaan nyt tekemässä uusi tuotanto Lontoon West Endin Duke of York teatteriin (https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/tom-holland-francesca-amewudah-rivers-star-west-end/story?id=108621124 ) ja näyttelijät on valittu. Roomeota esittää (liitekuva) Tom Holland ja Juuliaa Francesca Amewudah-Rivers. :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 04.04.2024, 01:45:30
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.04.2024, 07:32:05
Minulle on edelleen epäselvää miten Souri ylipäätään pääsi LUX-projektiin mukaan, mutta ehkä sekin vielä selviää.

Minulle on epäselvää miten Kata Kärkkäisestä tuli taiteilija. Mutta toisaalta, Ginger Lynn:kin on myös kuvataiteilija. Että mikäs siinä. Mutta samaan aikaan vingutaan että vain oikean kouluksen saaneet ja taiteilijayhteisön hyväksymät voivat olla taiteilijoita. Kuten Teemu Mäki, jota "arvostan" kissateoksistaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.04.2024, 04:14:30
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 04.04.2024, 01:45:30
Minulle on epäselvää miten Kata Kärkkäisestä tuli taiteilija.

En ole fani, enkä arvosta maalauksiaan. Alastonmalliuransa on mielestäni ok, oli nuori ja nätti ja tarvitsi rahaa.

Laulajanuransa oli lyhyt vitsi.

Mutta koska pahuusvasemmisto häntä vastustaa, hänessä lienee pakko olla joitain hyvyyden ja taiteilijan elementtejä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 07:56:30
Kärkkäinen/Souri höpisi jotain kolonialismista ja ottaa taiteellaan kulemma kantaa alkuperäiskansojen kuten saamelaisten väärin kohteluun. Kuulosti vähän siltä, että keksinyt jälkikäteen mitä nämä kitch teoksensa tarkoittaa. Ilmeisesti vihervasemmistolaisen kulttuuripiirien paineessa, joihin itsekin näköjään kuuluu. Vassarien jäsentenvälisestä kyse siis.
Niin makuasia nuo teokset. Ei ne huonoja ole, mutta jotenkin vähän amatöörimäisiä mun silmään. Vähän niinku basaaritaidetta. Nimen avulla pääsee esiin. Toinen vastaava on Manuela Bosco. Ilman nimeä ei teoksensa pääsisi esille, koska eivät ole mitään ihmeellisiä. Ja aatemaailma pitää olla kohdallaan eli vasemmalla ja niinpä tehdään taulu Marinille.
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Post by: Dangr on 04.04.2024, 08:07:28
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 08:56:33
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.04.2024, 07:32:05
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 03.04.2024, 00:27:13
Katariina Souri: Odotan anteeksipyyntöä Lux Helsingiltä | Heikelä & Koskelo 23 minuuttia | 864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvekUyaCWV4

Kuvataiteilija Souri tulee perinteisten vasemmistopiirien ulkopuolelta, ja on siksi joutunut puolestauhriutuvien vasemmistobyrokraattien taiteellisen sabotoinnin kohteeksi. Grynderivihreät taiteilijapiirit ovat olleet loukkaantuvinaan siitä, että Souri kehtasi maalata kuvan lappalaisesta, jota heijastettiin Helsingin LUX-tapahtumassa Senaatintorin rakennusten seiniin.

Minulle on edelleen epäselvää miten Souri ylipäätään pääsi LUX-projektiin mukaan, mutta ehkä sekin vielä selviää.
Kaikkihan oli hyvin, kunnes se saamelainen woke-aktivisti hokasi loukkaantua ja syyttää kulttuurisesta omimisesta ja stereotypisoinnista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 04.04.2024, 09:32:52
Quote from: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 07:56:30
Kärkkäinen/Souri höpisi jotain kolonialismista ja ottaa taiteellaan kulemma kantaa alkuperäiskansojen kuten saamelaisten väärin kohteluun. Kuulosti vähän siltä, että keksinyt jälkikäteen mitä nämä kitch teoksensa tarkoittaa. Ilmeisesti vihervasemmistolaisen kulttuuripiirien paineessa, joihin itsekin näköjään kuuluu. Vassarien jäsentenvälisestä kyse siis.

Valkoisetkin ovat maalanneet BLM-hengessä George Floyd -muraaleja ja graffiteja.

Voiko valkoinen piirtää neekerin? Voiko valkoinen ohjata elokuvan jossa on neekereitä?

- Mikä on se taho, jolta pitää kysyä lupa?
- Mikä on se taho/auktoriteetti, joka virallisesti tuomitsee onko kyseessä kulttuuriantropologinen dokumentti, vai kulttuurinen omiminen?

Seuraavaksi Etelämantereen pingviineistä ei saa tehdä luontodokumenttia, ellei itse ole pingviini ja tiedä miltä tuntuu, jos voi mikä tahansa päivä tulla hain syömäksi.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.04.2024, 11:36:21
Quote from: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 07:56:30Ilmeisesti vihervasemmistolaisen kulttuuripiirien paineessa, joihin itsekin näköjään kuuluu. Vassarien jäsentenvälisestä kyse siis.

Minua vähän ottaa päähän kysyäkkään näin vähän kiinnostavasta asiasta, mutta olisiko linkkiä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 04.04.2024, 11:45:34
Quote from: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 07:56:30
Ilmeisesti vihervasemmistolaisen kulttuuripiirien paineessa, joihin itsekin näköjään kuuluu. Vassarien jäsentenvälisestä kyse siis.


Olisin eri mieltä. Souria ei ole koskaan hyväksytty osaksi vihervasemmistolaisia apurahataidepiirejä.

Siis Souri, vaikka olisi hänestä mitä mieltä tahansa on rahoittanut itse taidettaan ja saanut siitä rahaa ihan vapailta markkinoilta. Sehän näitä apurahataiteilijoita on kauhistuttanut.

Jo aikoinaan estivät hänen jäsenyytensä kirjailijaliitossa, jonne on päässyt vähän minkälie tasoisia kirjan omakustanteena julkaisseita.

Ja menestys apurahataiteilijoiden ohi aiheutti valtavaa bashaasmista, johon tämä saamelaiskuvan kauhisteli kuuluu.

Souri on vähän kuin taiteen Spede, siis kuin Spede oli elokuvapiireissä. Menestyy itsenäisesti vasemmistolaisen kulttuuripiirin ulkopuolella, jonne häntä ei ole koskaan edes päästetty.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 14:45:21
^kyse on "amatööriydestä". Souri on tullut väärää tietä apajille. Kateutta herättää, että saa julkisuutta keskinkertaisella taiteellisella laadulla ja jopa myy noita tauluja.
Että sama arvomaailma ei auta, kun naisista kyse.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 04.04.2024, 14:53:16
^Se, että Souri on pidetty poissa vihervasemmistontaidepiireistä, kyllä viittaa myös siihen, että tuskin arvotkaan ovat hyvin lähellä toisiaan. Jos Souri olisi CRT:nsä opiskellut wokeisti, niin ei hän olisi missään vaiheessa maalannut saamelaista. Jokainen noissa tunkkaisissa piireissä opiskelee koko ajan muuttuvia woken sääntöjä, jotta ei tee "virheitä", joiden vuoksi towerit voisivat ilmiantaa ja toimittaa toweri-NKVD:n käsiin julistamaan narrinhattu päässä nurkassa katuen itsekritiikkiä kulttuurivallankumouksellisille.

Siis tuollaiset piirit ovat selkäänpuukottajien ja kateuden tyyssioita, joissa halutaan käyttää valtaa  ja kyynärpäitä muihin. Luultavasti suurimmat kateudentunteet tunnetaan noiden taidepiirien jäsentenvälisesti... Varsinkin kun tappelevat keskenään niistä samoista julkisista apurahoista... Joita Sourilla ei ole ollut minkäänlaista saumaa saada, koska rahojen jaosta päättävät pyörivät noissa sisäsiittoisissa "taidepiireissä". Miksi tuntea kovin suurta kateutta Souria kohtaan, eikä samaa apurahaa hakenutta ja sen saanutta saman pikkuklikin jäsentä kohtaan, joka on saanut jotenkin lirkuteltua itselleen sen apurahan?

Ja operaatio Souria kohtaan meni aikalailla käteen. Souri ei taipunut, kuten CRT-woke-piiriläinen olisi taipunut piireistä ulosheittämisen pelossa. Sourilla ei ollut mitään menetettävää, miksi taipua, kun ei ollut "taidepiirien" jäsen ylipäätään. ;)

Ja vielä. Ei Sourin taide ole sen "keskikertaisempaa", kuin noiden "ammattimaisten" apurahataiteilijoiden taiteilut. Siis ihan taiteen seuraamiseen perustuva faktapohjainen havainto. Siis ihan käsittämätöntä paskaa noiden "ammattitaiteilijoiden" toimesta välillä tuotetaan apuraharahoituksella. Siis sellaista, jota ei kukaan osta omalla rahallaan, vaan enintään ostetaan julkisella rahalla piilotukena jonnekin julkisten taidemuseoiden  varastoihin piiloon. Se, että  Sourilta ostetaan taidetta ihan omalla rahalla kertoo siitä, että ei se taide kovin surkeaa ole yleiseen tasoon verrattuna.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 17:22:01
Hieman ymmärtän taiteesta, niin aikoinaan renoirin impressionistisia teoksia pidettiin töherryksinä ja skenelle naureskeltiin. Että eri mieltä tasosta. Suosittu popmusa ei välttämättä ole musiikillisesti kovinkaan ihmeellistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.04.2024, 04:42:58
Quote from: Caucasian on 04.04.2024, 17:22:01
Hieman ymmärtän taiteesta, niin aikoinaan renoirin impressionistisia teoksia pidettiin töherryksinä ja skenelle naureskeltiin. Että eri mieltä tasosta. Suosittu popmusa ei välttämättä ole musiikillisesti kovinkaan ihmeellistä.

Taideasiantuntijoita saattaa kiinnostaa tämä Homman ketju:

Nykytaideäänestys: pystytkö erottamaan lapsen töherryksen abstraktista taiteesta
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,46267.msg621321.html#msg621321

Liitteessä on äänestyksemme lopputulos.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 06.04.2024, 03:47:55
Niin minulle oli jäänyt epäselväksi oliko tämä kansantaitelija Kata saanut koskaan apurahoja?

Joskus kun kävin Kiasmassa, siellä oli ajastetuissa tehosekoittimissa lappujen mukaan taiteilijan ulostetta, verta ja spermaa. Selkeää apurahataidetta. Yhtä arvostettavaa kuin kissavideo.

Mutta ei, on Kiasmassa joskus jotain hyvääkin. Brian Eno:n installaatio oli joskus. Mutta onko Enokaan establishmentin hyväksymä? Banksy vissiin on kun on pakko huutokauppojen takia. Se näyttää silti keskaria.
Joskus 20 vuotta sitten mentiin käymään Bonnissa katsomassa Enon kotkotuksia ihan asiakseen. Olivat ajatuksia herättäviä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 06.04.2024, 15:05:02
Quote from: totuuspuheasiamies on 06.04.2024, 14:45:16
"Transfobiset" mustat ja hispanot sekä "rasistis-suvaitsevaiset" valkoiset samassa koulussa.

QuoteMiddle school in ultra-liberal Massachusetts town is convulsed by chaos after white parents accuse black and Hispanic Christian staffers of transphobia... only for their targets to hit back and call them racist

LOL ;D

Tuohan on ihan klassista vasemmiston sisäistä konkurssia, kun kaikki alkavat syyttää toisiaan aatteellisesta epäpuhtaudesta.

Vasemmistoliberaalinen identiteettipolitiikan koko tunkio on lentämässä omaan tuulettimeen. Idiootit woket ovat päätymässä identiteettikaaoksensa keskelle puolustautumaan niitä hirviöitä vastaan, jotka he ovat itse luoneet.

Minusta tuntuu, että koko woke-liike on hiljalleen kaatumassa omaan mahdottomuuteensa. Ihmiset alkavat ymmärtämään, että jos tällä linjalla jatketaan, kaikki, ei pelkästään konservatiivit vaan ihan kaikki, päätyvät ennemmin tai myöhemmin teloitettavaksi. Sisäiset ristiriidat alkavat yksinkertaisesti olemaan jo niin suuria kun kaikki tappelevat korkeimmasta uhristatuksesta, että kukaan ei ole turvassa hyökkäyksiltä.

Hyvä näin. :)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 07.04.2024, 08:49:35
Aamulla avasin television ja siellä tuli Gotlannin SOS-jotakin.

Kaksi ambulanssinaista menivät kiireellä asuntoon, kun teini oli ottanut pillereitä.

Hän oli ottanut pillereitä, koska hänen genderdystopiaansa ei oltu otettu vakavasti. Joku hoito tai terapia oli keskeytetty.

Hän oli ottanut viisi melatoniinipilleriä. Tiettävästi hän ei ollut hengenvaarassa.

Tämä ei ole vitsi eikä naurun aihe. Tämä on osoitus, miten kummallinen paikka maailma on nykyään. Näitä on ja tulee enenevässä määrin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pienivalkeapupu on 07.04.2024, 08:52:45
Quote from: ikuturso on 07.04.2024, 08:49:35
Aamulla avasin television ja siellä tuli Gotlannin SOS-jotakin.

Kaksi ambulanssinaista menivät kiireellä asuntoon, kun teini oli ottanut pillereitä.

Hän oli ottanut pillereitä, koska hänen genderdystopiaansa ei oltu otettu vakavasti. Joku hoito tai terapia oli keskeytetty.

Hän oli ottanut viisi melatoniinipilleriä. Tiettävästi hän ei ollut hengenvaarassa.

Tämä ei ole vitsi eikä naurun aihe. Tämä on osoitus, miten kummallinen paikka maailma on nykyään. Näitä on ja tulee enenevässä määrin.

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Juu, "ällistyneenä" katselin itsekin tuota tapausta. Viisi melatoniinipilleriä tavoitteena itsemurha tai muuten vaan itsetuhoinen käytös... maailma on tosiaan nyrjähtänyt paikka. Jopa Gotlannissa  ???
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 07.04.2024, 23:18:12
Quote from: https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1777032242675483035End Wokeness @EndWokeness

2024 dictionary:

Racist- someone who prioritizes merits and skills, rather than skin color

Fascist- a person who supports freedom of speech, gun rights, and religious liberty

Democracy- arresting political opponents, removing them off the ballot

Extremist- a centrist from 2006
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 08.04.2024, 05:05:47
Muslimit hyödyntävät wokea ajaessaan islamin asiaa.

"Islamofobia" on valheellinen leimasana, joka palvelee islamismia
https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/islamofobia-on-valheellinen-leimasana-joka-palvelee-islamismia/
QuoteLänsimaissa on 2000-luvun ajan ollut tapana syyllistää poliittisen islamin kriitikoita "islamofobeiksi". Leimasana antaa ymmärtää, että kritiikki perustuisi pelokkuuteen tai tietämättömyyteen. Washington Examiner-lehden päätoimittaja Hugo Gurdonin mukaan koko islamofobian käsite perustuu valheelliseen narratiiviin. Hänen mukaansa islamofobian kauhistelu on silmien sulkemista islamilaisen maailman nykyisestä luonteesta sekä huolestuttavasta kehityssuunnasta. Gurdon muistuttaa, miten osa islamilaista maailmaa on radikalisoitunut viime vuosikymmeninä ja kylvänyt tuhoa myös länsimaissa. Gurdonin mukaan islamofobian kauhistelu länsimaissa palvelee islamistien pyrkimyksiä saada enemmän vaikutusvaltaa islamilaisen maailman ulkopuolella. Hän peräänkuuluttaa, että poliittisen islamin kritisointi on aiheellista ja loogista sivilisaation puolustamista.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 08.04.2024, 20:09:49
Quote from: totuuspuheasiamies on 08.04.2024, 18:58:31
Myös Suomen media, varsinkin Hesari, on uutisoinut tosiasiana tutkimusvalhetta, jonka mukaan "monimuotoisuus" suurentaisi liikevoittoja.

Valtamedia on toistanut pelkkää väitettä. Tutkimuksia ei ole koskaan näkynyt, ellei epämääräisiä viittauksia Richard Floridan teorioihin joskus kymmenen vuotta sitten lasketa sellaisiksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 09.04.2024, 23:26:48
Quote from: Dangr on 08.04.2024, 06:35:41
Edellinen Doctor Who katastrofi naisella ei opettanut tarpeeksi, nyt siihen on palkattu musta mies.

James Bondia odotellessa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 10.04.2024, 00:12:37
Puoli Seitsemän sattui tulemaan yöllä ei-kello-puoli-seitsemän aikaan.
Sain juuri yhden työurakan nippuun ja kuuntelin hetken Sampo Terhon Göbbels-kirjan jorinoita.

Sitten tuli nuorten deittailun vaikeudesta. Oli haastateltu nuoria millainen treffikumppanin tulisi olla.
Ensin nuori mies: "No sellainen jonka kanssa viihtyy. Ei siinä muuta"
Sitten nuori nainen/tyttö suuret pyöreät silmälasit: "No semmoinen vihreä ja vasemmalta"

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.04.2024, 20:58:54
Laitetaans nyt tämäkin transustelu tänne.

Quote from: https://www.iltalehti.fi/telkku/ohjelmat/kokomo-city/654770/yle-teema-fem/14689643Kokomo City
7,1 IMDb | Tänään klo 22:15, Yle Teema Fem.

Intiimi dokumenttielokuva neljästä mustasta transsukupuolisesta seksityöntekijästä ja heidän elämästään New Yorkissa ja Georgiassa. Transnaiset kertovat kameralle avoimesti traumoistaan ja seksityön vaarallisuudesta. Dokumentin on ohjannut Grammy-voittaja D. Smith. (Kokomo City, Yhdysvallat, 2023).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.04.2024, 08:47:18
Linkki artikkelliin, josta Jiri Keronen puhuu:

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=398681549717158&set=a.101978479387468]

Jiri Keronen

Yksi pöljimmistä nykymaailman höpöilmiöistä ovat "muunsukupuoliset".

Ei edes se, että jengi kuvittelee olevansa jotain muuta kuin miehiä tai naisia, vaan se, että jopa peruskoulun käyneet aikuiset ihmiset leikkivät mukana ja esittävät uskovansa tähän soopaan. Oikeasti jokainen Kalevan toimittaja tietää, että Juko on nainen. He kaikki näkevät sen suoraan naamasta eivätkä he syvällä sisimmässään usko Jukon olevan yhtään mitään muuta. Edes Juko itse ei oikeasti usko olevansa muuta kuin nainen.

Silti kaikki esittävät mukana. Toimittaja tietää, että Juko valehtelee. Juko tietää, että Juko valehtelee. Juko tietää, että toimittaja tietää Jukon valehtelevan. Toimittaja tietää, että Juko tietää toimittajan tietävän, että Juko valehtelee. Silti Juko valehtelee ja toimittaja valehtelee uskovansa Jukon valehtelun. Kyseessä ei ole mikään muu kuin sanattomasti sovittu molemminpuolinen itsepetos.

Jokainen suvullisesti lisääntyvä eläin on aina ja poikkeuksetta koiras tai naaras. Näin on ollut miljardeja vuosia ja näin on edelleen. Yksikään ihminen ei ole mitään muuta kuin koiras tai naaras, eivät edes intersukupuoliset. Jopa jokainen intersukupuolisuuden muoto on poikkeuksetta jompaan kumpaan sukupuoleen tiukasti sitoutunut kehityshäiriö. Ei ole olemassa yhtäkään intersukupuolista kehityshäiriötä, joka ei riippuisi suoraan jomman kumman sukupuolen geneettisistä ominaisuuksista.
Myöskään transsukupuoliset eivät ole mitään "muunsukupuolisia". Transsukupuolisuudessa on kyse siitä, että biologisesti mies tai nainen kokee olevansa vastakkaista sukupuolta ja pyrkii helpottamaan omaa sukupuolidysforiaansa muokkaamalla kehonsa ulkoisia piirteitä vastakkaisen sukupuolen ulkoisiksi piirteiksi leikkauksilla ja hormoneilla. Siinäkin on siis kyse tiukasti binäärisestä ilmiöstä, jota ei edes olisi olemassa genderfluidissa wibbawabbatodellisuudessa, jossa käsitteet eivät tarkoita mitään.

Jokainen, joka väittää uskovansa, että sukupuolia on olemassa enemmän kuin kaksi, valehtelee. Ensinnäkin hän valehtelee kaikille muille, mikä on jo itsessään kyseenalaista. Toiseksi hän valehtelee itselleen, mikä on vielä kertaluokkia pahempi synti.
Jukoa ei ota voimille jatkuva korjaaminen, vaan jatkuva valehtelu. Jos väittää, että 2 + 2 = 5, niin hajoaa henkisesti todellisuuden ja valheen väliseen maailmankuvaan. Kun taas hyväksyy, että 2 + 2 = 4, niin kaikki muu seuraa siitä
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 11.04.2024, 09:27:54
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.04.2024, 06:38:22
[tweet]1778606537985990950[/tweet]

Quote from: https://yle.fi/a/74-20083057Sukupuolensa kyseenalaistavien tyttöjen määrä kasvoi jyrkästi Britanniassa – nyt raportti tuomitsee tarjotun hoidon rajusti

Tuore raportti syyttää, että alaikäisille on annettu murrosiän alkua estäviä blokkerilääkkeitä liian helposti ja ilman riittävää tutkimustietoa hyödyistä.

Quote from: https://cass.independent-review.uk/home/publications/final-report/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 13.04.2024, 10:25:37
ˆ Liberaali näkee noissa käyrissä vain sen, että noin montaa ihmistä on konservatiivinen järjestelmä kahlinnut aiemmin. Nyt he saavat olla mitä ovat

Konservatiivi näkee noissä käyrissä vain sen, kuinka gender-ideologia on sekoittanut lasten ja näiden vanhempien päät.

Molemmat ovat varmaan osittain oikeassa.

Mutta yhteiskunta on lähtenyt hysteriaan. Ennen jos auton moottorista murtui pultti, selvitettiin syyt miksi juuri tuo pultti murtuu. Nykyideologialla jos auton moottorista murtuu pultti, vaihdetaan kaikki pultit sateenkaarenvärisiin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 13.04.2024, 10:56:44
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 13.04.2024, 11:04:16
Quote from: ikuturso on 13.04.2024, 10:25:37
Nykyideologialla jos auton moottorista murtuu pultti, vaihdetaan kaikki pultit sateenkaarenvärisiin.

...sateenkaarenvärisiin muttereihin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 13.04.2024, 12:00:38
Quote from: Miniluv on 13.04.2024, 11:04:16
Quote from: ikuturso on 13.04.2024, 10:25:37
Nykyideologialla jos auton moottorista murtuu pultti, vaihdetaan kaikki pultit sateenkaarenvärisiin.

...sateenkaarenvärisiin muttereihin.

Niin ne näyttävät pulteilta, koska ovat pötkömäisiä ja sopivat niille tarkoitettuihin reikiin, mutta ne tuntevat itsensä muttereiksi.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 13.04.2024, 22:19:16
Quote
THEY REMOVE THE BIBLE AND REPLACE IT WITH THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9GEBOj96UU

Christian Mother Confronts Woke School Board After Big Changes in Restroom Policy Affecting Students
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzm71Y8uKu0
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 14.04.2024, 09:44:08
Hesarin Puheenvuoropalstalla (maksumuuri) Alli Hallonblad kertoo Maija Laura Kauhasen ajatuksista

https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010285167.html

Bullshit-bingorivi täyttyy varsin nopeasti:

Quote"Kaikki valkoiset ihmiset Suomessa ovat kasvaneet rasistiseen ajatteluun", sanoo Maija Laura Kauhanen

Maija Laura Kauhasen mielestä Suomessa pitäisi puhua enemmän valkoisuudesta. Helsingin Sanomien Puheenvuoro-sarjassa esitetään kiinnostavia keskustelunavauksia.
QuoteKAUHANEN on viime vuosina viettänyt paljon aikaa kasvotusten omien etuoikeuksiensa ja sisäistämiensä rasististen ennakkoluulojen kanssa.

Tuloksena on tammikuussa julkaistu omakohtainen romaani Ihmeköynnös, joka roimii valkoisen ihmisen asemaa globaalissa onnenpyörässä välillä itseironisella otteella, välillä vakavammalla.
QuoteKAUHASEN mielestä suomalaisen yhteiskunnan rasismia ei voi purkaa, jos valkoiset eivät suostu näkemään niitä asenteita ja ennakkoluuloja, joihin he ovat tottuneet.

"Kaikki valkoiset ihmiset Suomessa ovat kasvaneet rasistiseen ajatteluun", hän sanoo.
QuoteKAUHANEN ajattelee, että jotta rasismille voidaan tehdä jotakin, tulisi tunnustaa sekä rasismin arkipäiväisyys että valkoisuuden asema kulttuurissa ja yhteiskunnassa.

"Jos on kauan sitten päättänyt, että ei ole rasisti tai näe väriä, ei enää opi enempää. Kun hyväksyy oman keskeneräisyytensä ja epätäydellisyytensä, pystyy kuuntelemaan ja oppimaan lisää", hän sanoo.

Kauhasen mukaan omien etuoikeuksien tiedostaminen ja ennakkoluulojen havaitseminen voivat herättää häpeää ja syyllisyyttä. Niistä tunteista valkoiset voisivat puhua toisten valkoisten kanssa, hän ehdottaa.

Toimittajaksi esitelty Hallonblad on lähinnä Kauhasen mielipiteiden kirjuri, eikä haasta niitä millään tavalla.  Lienee aivan liikaa vaadittu, että Hesari käsittelisi woke-ilmiötä journalistisia periaatteita noudattaen?
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Post by: Dangr on 20.04.2024, 20:03:05
 :silakka:
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Post by: Näkkileipä on 20.04.2024, 20:17:49
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 09.04.2024, 23:26:48
Quote from: Dangr on 08.04.2024, 06:35:41
Edellinen Doctor Who katastrofi naisella ei opettanut tarpeeksi, nyt siihen on palkattu musta mies.

James Bondia odotellessa.

Dr. Who hahmon sukupuolella ja ihon värillä, ei ole minusta mitään merkitystä. Koska se on kätevästi kirjoitettu sarjaan mukaan, että Dr. Who hahmon fyysisen olemuksen kuollessa, hän kokee muodonmuutoksen ja syntyy uudelleen ja uudelleen. Se on vain käsikirjoittajan, näyttelijän ja ohjaajan yhteistyön tuloksena toimiiko uusi Dr. Who vai ei
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.04.2024, 15:28:02
Juutalainen Soros rahoittaa juutalaisvainoja länsimaissa.

Tällekin paradoksille varmaan löytyy ihan järkevä selitys, ei tosin välttämättä sellainen länsimainen ihminen ymmärtäisi ihan helposti.

Olisikohan selitys mahdollisesti "kyllä routa porsaat kotiin ajaa, varsinkin jos pässiä viedään narussa" ? *

[tweet]1782458738487779377[/tweet]

* En aio selittää tätä kielikuvaa. Jokainen saa miettiä sitä itsekseen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.04.2024, 15:57:35
Jatkoa edelliseen.

[tweet]1782538920380514312[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.04.2024, 09:27:19
Wokepedoilua
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nikolas on 03.05.2024, 01:34:59
En tiedä 100% varmasti kuuluuko tämä lisäys juuri tähän ketjuun, mutta parempaakaan en pienellä hakemisella löytänyt.

Quote

Britanniassa historiallinen linjanveto: Sukupuolessa on kyse biologiasta, ei identiteetistä

Britannian terveydenhuoltojärjestelmän NHS:n uudessa linjauksessa sukupuoli määritellään biologian, ei henkilön sukupuoli-identiteetin mukaan.

Atte Lehtonen
2024-05-02 klo 5:45

Yhdistyneen kuningaskunnan julkinen terveydenhuoltojärjestelmä NHS linjaa, että sukupuolessa on kysymys biologiasta eikä sukupuoli-identiteetistä. Ministerien ehdottamat muutokset terveydenhuollon säännöstöön kieltävät transnaiset vain naisille tarkoitetuilta osastoilta ja antavat naisille oikeuden pyytää naislääkäriä intiimihoitoon.

Vuoden 2021 NHS:n ohjeistuksen mukaan transpotilaat voitaisiin sijoittaa osastolle sen sukupuolen perusteella, jonka he itse ilmoittavat. Ohjeistuksen uudessa päivityksessä määrätään, että sukupuoli määritellään biologisen sukupuolen mukaan.

Naisten oikeuksien puolustajat ovat sanomalehti Telegraphin mukaan suhtautuneet uuteen ohjeistukseen myönteisesti. Jotkut naispotilaat ovat valittaneet siitä, että heidän on ollut pakko jakaa makuutila transnaisten kanssa.

– Muutos on paluu terveeseen järkeen ja myöhäinen tunnustus siitä, että naisten hyvinvoinnilla ja turvallisuudella on väliä, Sex Matters -ryhmä sanoo Telegraphin mukaan.

Uuden ohjeistuksen mukaan naisilla on myös oikeus pyytää intiimihoitoa samaa sukupuolta olevan lääkärin tai hoitajan toimesta. Tähän asti naispotilaat ovat voineet joutua ottamaan vastaan hoitoa miehiksi syntyneiltä henkilöiltä, jotka ovat myöhemmin korjanneet sukupuoltaan.

– Haluamme tehdä täysin selväksi, että jos potilas haluaa hoitoa samaa sukupuolta olevalta henkilöltä, hänellä tulee olla se mahdollisuus aina, kun se on kohtuudella mahdollista, terveysministeri Victoria Atkins sanoo Telegraphin mukaan.

Ohjeistuksessa syrjintää koskevat säännöt päivitetään siten, että sosiaaliseen sukupuoleen viittaava sana "gender" vaihdetaan biologista sukupuolta tarkoittavaan "sex"-sanaan.

– On hieno uutinen, että NHS:n ohjeistusta tarkistetaan niin, että sukupuoli asetetaan sille kuuluvalle paikalle: ensimmäisen periaatteen ytimeen, jonka mukaan NHS:n on kohdeltava kaikkia tasa-arvoisesti ja ihmisoikeuksia kunnioittaen, Sex Matters -ryhmän johtaja Maya Forstater sanoo.

– Sukupuolessa on kysymys biologiasta, ei identiteetistä, ja on tervetullutta, että NHS tunnustaa sen nyt saman sukupuolen asumispalvelujen ja intiimihoidon yhteydessä.

NHS:n ohjeistuksen päivitys on kahdeksan viikkoa kestävässä kuulemisvaiheessa. Britannian hallitus kuulee kansalaisten, terveyshuollon ammattilaisten, potilaiden ja terveydenhuollon sidosryhmien vastauksia ennen uuden ohjeistuksen julkaisemista.

Lähde: https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/d856f567-0759-4b1f-adc2-e3fcf79b3a2e

Suvullinen lisääntyminen keksittiin joskus noin 2,5 miljardia vuotta sitten, ja siitä lähtien sukupuolia on ollut kaksi. Kävikin niin että järki alkoi palailla politiikkaan. Havaittiin että sukupuolia on kaksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 04.05.2024, 22:58:04
Hims & Hers Health Inc ( https://www.hims.com/ ) on ns. teleterveysfirma, joka USA:ssa tarjoaa etäyhteydellä lääkärien seksiterveysneuvoja. Toimitusjohtaja päätti "go woke, get broke":

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/hims-and-hers-stock-plummets-8-after-ceo-says-he-is-eager-to-hire-anti-israel-protesters/ar-AA1o7neW

QuoteThe stock price of Hims & Hers Health, Inc. plummeted 8% after the company's CEO said he and other executives were "eager" to hire anti-Israel student protesters who've faced disciplinary actions from their universities.

The online sexual health and pharmaceutical company dropped from its opening price of $12.24 to $11.26 on Friday — just two days after Palestinian-American CEO Andrew Dudum said companies would be happy to have the protesters and encouraged them to apply to Hims and Hers.

Ilmeisesti idea palkkaa Hamasin terrorismia tukevia "mielenosoittajia" H-H:lle ei ollut voittava strategia ja jengi alkoi myydä osakkeitaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 05.05.2024, 20:19:46
Aivopuhdistusgeneraattorimme laittaa pökköä vielä pesään, verovaroin kustannettuna.

Quote"En halua lapsilleni tällaista"
Gender reveal -juhlia eli sukupuolen paljastusjuhlia järjestetään myös Suomessa. Idean äiti toivoo nyt, ettei sukupuolesta tehtäisi spektaakkelia.

QuoteJuhlien on moitittu ylläpitävän oletusta siitä, millaisia tytöt ja pojat ovat, ja sulkevan sukupuolivähemmistöt ulkopuolelleen. Yhdysvalloissa juhlat ovat perinteisiä sukupuolirooleja vaalivan oikeiston suosiossa.

Pahimmillaan juhlat ovat hengenvaarallisia. Niihin rakennetut viritykset ovat sytyttäneet tuhoisia metsäpaloja, pilanneet vesistöjä ja tappaneet ihmisiä.

QuoteLähtökohta oli viaton.

Vuonna 2008 parikymppinen Jenna Karvunidis sai tietää odottavansa lasta. Edelliset raskaudet olivat päättyneet keskenmenoon, mutta nyt oltiin ylitetty piste, jonka jälkeen lapsen selviäminen näyttäisi todennäköiseltä.

Karvunidis halusi juhlia, mutta hänen sukunsa ei ollut erityisen läheinen. Välit äitiin olivat käytännössä poikki.

– Kaipasin tukea. Halusin, että lähisukuni innostuisi ja osallistuisi vanhemmuuteeni, Karvunidis kertoo etäyhteydellä kotoaan Los Angelesista.

– Yhdysvalloissa vauvakutsuihin liittyy tiettyjä sosiaalisia sääntöjä. Et voi järjestää omia kutsujasi, se osoittaa huonoa makua.

QuoteTytär kyseenalaisti sukupuoltaan
Karvunidis sai lopulta kolme tytärtä. Heidän kasvaessaan hän huomasi, miten varhain lapsia aletaan sukupuolittaa ja miten herkästi he omaksuvat roolinsa.

– He eivät halunneet lelua, jos se ei ollut vaaleanpunainen. Heille myytiin vaatteita, joissa luki "saako tämä vaippa takapuoleni näyttämään isolta?".

Hän alkoi ymmärtää, kuinka binäärinen sukupuoliajattelu, eli kaksinapainen jako miehiin ja naisiin, vaikuttaa kaikkiin. Se ruokkii toksista maskuliinisuutta ja opettaa naisille, ettei heidän paikkansa ole vallan ylimmillä tikkailla.

Gender reveal -juhla on nyt monelle hetki, jossa ihmisen sukupuolittaminen alkaa.

– Ajattelin, että hyvä jumala, en halua lapsilleni tällaista.

Minkähän takia tuo viaton tyttölapsi alkoikin "kyseenalaistan sukupuoltaan"?? Ehkäpä mielisairaan "äidin"tuputus ja täysin sekopäinen ideologia sai tuon(kin) pikkutytön sekoittamaan normaalin lapsen kehityksen. Juuri sen takia, että hänen kipeimmin tarvitsemansa aikuinen - OMA ÄITI -oli täysin oman ideologiansa sokaisema sekopää!

Ja pahimpana yksityiskohtana ; tämän jutun sekopään valmistuminen ASIANAJAJAKSI. Miten voi olla mahdollista, että tuollainen mielisairas hyypiö voi edes oleilla mielisairaalan ulkopuolella?
Vastaus: WOKE-maailma.
QuoteViime vuoden lopulla hän valmistui asianajajaksi. Karvunidis käynnistää pitkän puheenvuoron, josta käy selväksi, että hän argumentoi sukupuoliasioista työkseen.

Kukaan ei ole tasa-arvoinen, ennen kuin kaikki ovat tasa-arvoisia, Karvunidis teroittaa. Sukupuolibinääri tukee valkoisia varakkaita cis-heteromiehiä. Yhdysvaltojen abortinvastaiset lait muistuttavat, että naisten perusoikeuksiakin voidaan rajoittaa.

Tämänkaltaisilla , korkeasti koulutetuilla on valitettavasti kovin korkea äänenpaine ja myös jonkinlainen uskottavuus- olkoonkin että julistuksensa on ihan sitä itseään.

Vastasyntyneillä ei ole muuta kuin vanhempansa - hyvässä ja pahassa. Niinkuin tässäkin jutussa. Pienokaiset tulevat maailmaan pikkuisina tyttöinä ja poikina. Joko tai.Heillä ei ole ongelmia wokeilun ja rasismin tai minkään muunkaan kanssa. Sekopäiset - ja ah niin tiedostavat - vanhempansa sitten sekoittavat lapsiparkojen ajatukset ja kehityksen peruuttamattomasti. Miten tuollainen  toiminta voi olla sitä ankarinta rangaistusta vailla? Miksi viattomat "tyhjät taulut" voidaan aivan hyväksytysti tuhota henkisesti ja fyysisesti ilman sanktioita?
Karseaa touhua.

Tuolla tuo tosielämän kauhutarina:

https://yle.fi/a/74-20086264
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 05.05.2024, 20:50:15
Kaikkien ihmisten ei tulisi hankkia lapsia.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.05.2024, 19:52:34
^Luin pari kommentia, se riitti.

- Sacrificed her children to demons
- Pure evil. That poor kid.
- That child should be removed from this   freakshow!!!
- For the record, I'm 100% done with all this rainbow crap. Call me what you want, I really don't care anymore.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 11.05.2024, 20:24:48
Louisianan Baton Rougen kaupungin ennen hallinnoima alue muodosti oman kaupungin nimeltä St. George.  Perusteet ovat tuttuja: koulujen ongelmat, rahankäyttö, rikollisuus, joita BR viranomaiset tuntuivat olevan haluttomia hoitamaan. Valkoiset vs. demokraatit -tilanne.

Aloite on vuodelta 2014, mutta kypsyi nyt "kreivin aikaan" woke-hulluden torjumisen kannalta.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/racist-secession-conservatives-escape-democrat-run-baton-rouge-creation-new-city

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=py4Ft9EAo3E

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 13.05.2024, 06:23:56
DEI Has Come for Farmers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsC6afxeE9I
QuoteAmerican farming isn't diverse enough so there's a big push to bring DEI—diversity, equity, and inclusion to farming. Which apparently means queer farmers fighting "the heteronormative patriarchy, white supremacy, and capitalism!" Getting real Holodomor vibes on this one...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.05.2024, 07:42:26
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 13.05.2024, 06:23:56
DEI Has Come for Farmers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsC6afxeE9I

Taas yksi rasistinen vhm-aggressio. Bidenin demokraattimarxistit yrittävät tuhota USAn maatalouden, ja USAn siinä sivussa. Samaa sarjaa kuin laittomien imurointi ja ilmainen asutus hotelleihin.

QuoteHowever, promoting equity in farming  sure has led to some bad things. Look no further than the Holodomor!

Stalin seized the land of successful  Ukrainian farmers, threw them in jail,   and then gave their land to the  people in collectivized farms.

Turns out they weren't very good at farming.  Long story short, millions starved to death.

So when the Queer Farming Network   talks about landownership being a   product of colonization and genocide  "[L]andownership is...a product of  colonization and genocide and disenfranchisement", it almost sounds like they want some Soviet  or Maoist style land redistribution.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 13.05.2024, 20:30:39
^Hirsipuuhuumorilla voisi kysyä meinaako demokraattipuolue laittaa mustat orjiksi maataloustöihin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: HDRisto on 13.05.2024, 20:52:45
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 13.05.2024, 20:30:39
^Hirsipuuhuumorilla voisi kysyä meinaako demokraattipuolue laittaa mustat orjiksi maataloustöihin.

Silloin kyllä tapahtuu kummia. Firma nimeltä John Deere ainakin suivaantuu jos maatalouskoneet korvataan mustilla orjilla. Toisaalta, on J. Deeren syytä että USAssa on niin paljon joutilaita n-sanoja, mitäs keksivät puuvillan poimintakoneen. N-sanat jäivät työttömiksi ja kodittomiksi.
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Post by: Pallopääkissa on 14.05.2024, 06:56:39
Singaporen pääministeri Lee Hsien Loong kertoo miksi hän ei ikinä anna länsimaisen woken juurtua Singaporeen.
[tweet]1789752513027051816[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Dangr on 14.05.2024, 09:20:24
 :silakka:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 14.05.2024, 10:53:45
Quote from: Miniluv on 13.04.2024, 11:04:16
Quote from: ikuturso on 13.04.2024, 10:25:37
Nykyideologialla jos auton moottorista murtuu pultti, vaihdetaan kaikki pultit sateenkaarenvärisiin.

...sateenkaarenvärisiin muttereihin.

Kyllä vielä sateenkaaritouhussakin on sekä pultteja että muttereita. Tosin harvemmin pultti ja mutteri yhteen ruuvattuina. Useimmin vain sekaisin. Välillä kasoissa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 14.05.2024, 10:57:25
Quote from: ikuturso on 13.04.2024, 12:00:38
Quote from: Miniluv on 13.04.2024, 11:04:16
Quote from: ikuturso on 13.04.2024, 10:25:37
Nykyideologialla jos auton moottorista murtuu pultti, vaihdetaan kaikki pultit sateenkaarenvärisiin.

...sateenkaarenvärisiin muttereihin.

Niin ne näyttävät pulteilta, koska ovat pötkömäisiä ja sopivat niille tarkoitettuihin reikiin, mutta ne tuntevat itsensä muttereiksi.

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Jos mutteri tuntee itsensä pultiksi ja pultti mutteriksi. Tai non-binäärisesti pulttimutteriksi tai mutteripultiksi? Ja joku pultti tai mutteri saattaa tuntea itsensä ruuviksi, naulaksi, abiko- tai paperinliittimeksi. Onneksi minulla on autotallissa pari "miljoonalaatikkoa", joissa olen suosinut jo vuosikymmeniä syrjimattömyyttä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: HDRisto on 14.05.2024, 16:06:01
Eikös sellainen non-binäärinen ole aluslevy eli prikka?. Onhan se usein ruuvin ja mutterin välissä.
Ja tiedoksi: pultissa on sekä ruuvi että mutteri.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 14.05.2024, 16:09:43
Quote from: HDRisto on 14.05.2024, 16:06:01
Eikös sellainen non-binäärinen ole aluslevy eli prikka?. Onhan se usein ruuvin ja mutterin välissä.
Ja tiedoksi: pultissa on sekä ruuvi että mutteri.

Pultti on lainasana. Oikea termi on koneruuvi.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.05.2024, 00:53:28
"Are they suggesting queers are animals?"

This is incredibly offensive and homophobic!
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 17.05.2024, 08:18:34
Pronomineista.

Kävin euroviisuketjussa ChatGPT:n kanssa keskustelun, jossa ChatGPT oli kääntänyt suomeksi minulle nonbinäärisestä Bambi Thugista kertovan artikkelinpätkän. Tekoäly oli kääntänyt yksilöä kuvaavan wokepronominin they suomeksi "he".

Pyysin korjaamaan, ja tässä tulos:

Quote from: ikuturso on 16.05.2024, 23:49:20
ChatGPT ei osaa wokea. Pitäisi olla he mursi ja he löysi. Kysyin, onko näin, niin sieltä tuli tyhmälle yksinkertainen vastaus:
QuoteOlet oikeassa, suomen kielessä pronomini "he" voi aiheuttaa sekaannusta, koska se viittaa tavallisesti monikkoon. Non-binäärisen henkilön kohdalla on parempi käyttää ilmaisua, joka välttää monikon käyttöä mutta säilyttää pronominin neutraaliuden. Korjataan käännös:

"Bambie haaveili ballerinan urasta, kunnes hän mursi kätensä yliopistossa. Se osoittautui onnenpotkuksi, sillä Bambie päätti opiskella musikaaliteatteria Lontoossa, jossa hän löysi oman ainutlaatuisen äänensä ja tyylinsä."

Tässä "hän" toimii neutraalina pronominina ilman monikko-ongelmaa.

Suomen kieli  :-*

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Sitten vasta tajusin, että woke-ajattelu tekee suomen kielenkin sukupuolineutraalista pronominista sukupuolitetun.
MIksikö? (lisään olla-verbin pronominin perään, koska suomen monikon kolmannen persoonan he on kirjoitusasultaan samanlainen kuin englannin maskuliinin yksikön kolmannen persoonan he)

Koska they (are) kääntyy suomeksi he (ovat), ja vastaavasti he (ovat) kääntyy englanniksi they (are).
Jos they (are) käännetään suomeksi hän (on), kun sitä käännetään takaisin englanniksi, se ei käänny they (are). Kääntäjä arvioi kohteen sukupuolen jostain ja kääntää sen he (is) tai she (is),

Eli jos halutaan varmistaa, että suomen kielen sukupuolineutraalia hän (on)-sanaa ei käännetä sukupuolittavaksi pronominiksi, on pakko puhua suomeksikin monikossa he (ovat). Näin tämä kääntyy they:ksi ja asiayhteydestä voi päätellä, että puhutaan kuitenkin yksikössä, josta voidaan päätellä kohteen sukupuoleksi nonbinäärinen.

Tästä siis woke-yhteisö voi vain päätellä, että suomen sukupuolettomat pronominit syrjivät nonbinäärisiä, koska ne kääntyvät käännösohjelmissa ja ei-valistuneilla kääntäjillä sukupuolittaviksi pronomineiksi. Siksi suomen hän on syrjivä ja pitää käyttää he (mikä siis nostaa nonbinäärisyyden jalustalle, koska meillä on binäärinen "hän", ja nonbinäärinen hän eli "he", jolloin ilmiö (sukupuolittavat pronominit) mitä halutaan välttää nouseekin toiseen potenssiin kielessä, missä pronominit ovat lähtökohtaisestikin sukupuolettomia...)

Ja jos tavan tallaaja ei osaa lukea jonkun Bambin someprofiilista tai jostain ehkä tatuoinnista tai pesulapusta/tuoteselosteesta tämän haluamia pronomineja, niin tällä on toki oikeus loukkaantua verisesti, jos joku sukupuolittaa hänetheidät ja käyttää hänestäheistä jotain muuta sanaa kuin mitä hänhe itse haluaa (vai haluavat?) käytettävän.

Suomessa onneksi vain eläimistä enää käytetään pronominia "hän", ja ihmiset ovat "tämä, tuo tai se"...   :roll:



Otetaas vielä sitten, kun toimittajat eivät osaa enää normaaliakaan suomea kirjoittaa, pari esimerkkiä teitittelyn taivuttamisesta ja viimeisin muoto tulisi olla loogisesti pääteltynä korrekti, mutta kuka kuvittelee, että kesätoimittaja Kukkaperttu Vantaankoskensyrjä osaa sitä käyttää?

Yksikkö: Sinä olet ollut.
Monikko: Te olette olleet.
Teitittely: Te olette ollut.

Yksikkö: Hän on ollut.
Monikko: He ovat olleet.
Woke: He ovat ollut.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 17.05.2024, 08:43:52
Kysyin vielä keinojärjeltä:

QuoteOlet oikeassa, että pronominin "hän" kääntäminen takaisin kielelle, jossa pronominit ovat sukupuolittavat, voi aiheuttaa ongelmia. Suomen kielessä ei ole täysin vakiintunutta sukupuolineutraalia pronominia non-binäärisille henkilöille, mutta jotkut ovat alkaneet käyttää "hän" sijasta uudissanoja, kuten "hen", jota käytetään jo ruotsissa ja joka on alkanut saada jalansijaa myös Suomessa. Tämä saattaa auttaa välttämään sukupuolittuneisuuden ongelmia käännöksissä.

Käytetään siis "hen" tässä käännöksessä:

"Bambie haaveili ballerinan urasta, kunnes hen mursi kätensä yliopistossa. Se osoittautui onnenpotkuksi, sillä Bambie päätti opiskella musikaaliteatteria Lontoossa, jossa hen löysi oman ainutlaatuisen äänensä ja tyylinsä."

Tämä käännös säilyttää sukupuolineutraaliuden ja on paremmin yhteensopiva käännettäessä takaisin kielille, joissa pronominit ovat sukupuolittavia.

Ja jatkoa kun kysyin eikö hän-hen tee sukupuolineutraalista kielestä sukupuolisensitiivisen?

QuoteYmmärrän huolenaiheesi. Suomen kieli on tosiaan luonnostaan sukupuolineutraali, ja "hän" on pitkään ollut neutraali pronomini, jota käytetään kaikkien sukupuolten edustajista. Kuitenkin non-binääristen henkilöiden kokemusten ja toiveiden kunnioittaminen on tärkeää, ja pronominien käyttö voi olla haasteellinen kysymys.

Yksi ratkaisu voisi olla käyttää henkilöiden nimeä uudelleen siellä, missä se on luonnollista, välttää pronominien käyttöä tarpeettomasti tai käyttää muita sukupuolineutraaleja ilmaisuja.

Tässä on käännös suomeksi, jossa vältetään monikon tuntua ja säilytetään sukupuolineutraalius:

"Bambie haaveili ballerinan urasta, kunnes Bambie mursi kätensä yliopistossa. Se osoittautui onnenpotkuksi, sillä Bambie päätti opiskella musikaaliteatteria Lontoossa, jossa Bambie löysi oman ainutlaatuisen äänensä ja tyylinsä."

Tämä tapa varmistaa, että teksti säilyy sukupuolineutraalina ja kunnioittaa samalla non-binäärisen henkilön toiveita. Näin vältetään myös mahdolliset ongelmat pronominien käännöksissä muille kielille.

Kokeillaan:
Hän tiesi, että hänet tunnetaan hänen kotikaupungissaan Keravalla. Olihan hänen nimimerkissäänkin hänen kotikaupunkinsa, jonka hän oli siihen lisännyt pelkäämättä hänen anonymiteettinsä paljastumista.

Eino tiesi, että Eino tunnetaan Einon kotikaupungissa Keravalla. Olihan Einon nimimerkissäkin Einon kotikaupunki, jonka Eino olis siihen lisännyt pelkäämättä Einon anonymiteetin paljastumista.

Tervetuloa wokemaailmaan, Eino ja muut hompanssit. Tästä tulee vielä ihanaaleijonat ihanaa.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 17.05.2024, 08:53:33
RÄÄH.

Quote from: chatgptTässä ovat pronomini "hen" kaikki Suomen sijamuodot:

Nominatiivi: hen
Genetiivi: henen
Partitiivi: henta
Essiivi: henenä
Translatiivi: heneksi
Inessiivi: henessä
Elatiivi: henestä
Illatiivi: heneen
Adessiivi: henellä
Ablatiivi: heneltä
Allatiivi: henelle
Abessiivi: henettä
Komitatiivi: henenen (komitatiivia käytetään harvoin pronomineista)
Instruktiivi: henin (instruktiivia käytetään harvoin pronomineista)
Huomioi, että nämä taivutusmuodot eivät ole vielä vakiintuneita, ja niiden käyttö voi vaihdella riippuen siitä, miten kieliyhteisö omaksuu ne.

Sain juuri heneen neneen.

Komitatiivi on muuten aina monikkorunkoinen, eli oikea olisi heineen.
Samoin instruktiivi. Pienin korjauksin ChatGPT tuotti minulle vielä:
QuoteKomitatiivi: heineen
Instruktiivi: hein

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.05.2024, 08:58:11
Hajoita kieli, hallitse massoja

Orwell 1984 kirjassa sanojen tuhoaminen oli kaunis asia. Wokettajat yrittävät tehdä saman kieliopille. Tavoite on viestinnän vammauttaminen vammauttamalla viestinnän väline, kieli. Näin yksilöt, ryhmittymät ja massat eivät ymmärrä toisiaan, eivätkä voi yhdessä nousta yhteistä vihollistaan - epädemokraattista hallintoa - vastaan, vaan tappelevat keskenään. Selkeiden ajatusten muodostamien jopa yksilölle on mahdotonta, jos ajattelun väline, kieli, on vammautettu.

Hajoita kieli, hallitse aivovammautettuja.

Quote from: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/553001-it-s-a-beautiful-thing-the-destruction-of-words-of-course
"It's a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. Of course the great wastage is in the verbs and adjectives, but there are hundreds of nouns that can be got rid of as well. It isn't only the synonyms; there are also the antonyms. ― George Orwell

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeakdoubleplusungood — the word that replaces Oldspeak words meaning "superlatively bad", such as terrible and horrible. doublethink — the act of simultaneously believing two, mutually contradictory ideas. duckspeak — automatic, vocal support of political orthodoxies

Woken they/them -pronominit ovat tripleplusungood.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 17.05.2024, 12:47:04
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.05.2024, 08:58:11
Hajoita kieli, hallitse massoja

Orwell 1984 kirjassa sanojen tuhoaminen oli kaunis asia. Wokettajat yrittävät tehdä saman kieliopille. Tavoite on viestinnän vammauttaminen vammauttamalla viestinnän väline, kieli. Näin yksilöt, ryhmittymät ja massat eivät ymmärrä toisiaan, eivätkä voi yhdessä nousta yhteistä vihollistaan - epädemokraattista hallintoa - vastaan, vaan tappelevat keskenään.

On se vaan hassua, että tästäkin löytyy tarina eräästä isosta kirjasta. Tarina, joka sijoittuu aikaan vuosituhansia ennen ajanlaskumme alkua. Ei ole Orwellin keksimä tuo ajatus...

Quote1. Mooseksen kirja 11
Babylonin torni
1Koko maailma käytti samoja sanoja ja puhui yhtä kieltä. 2Kun ihmiset siirtyivät itään, he löysivät Sinearin maasta tasangon ja jäivät sinne asumaan. 3Ja he sanoivat toisilleen: »Tehkäämme tiiliä ja polttakaamme ne koviksi.» He käyttivät savitiiltä rakennuskivenä ja asfalttipikeä muuraamiseen. 4He sanoivat: »Rakentakaamme itsellemme kaupunki ja torni, joka ulottuu taivaaseen asti. Sillä tavoin saamme mainetta emmekä myöskään hajaannu yli koko maan.»
5Herra tuli katsomaan kaupunkia ja tornia, jota ihmiset rakensivat, 6ja sanoi: »Siinä he nyt ovat, yksi kansa, jolla on yksi ja sama kieli. Tämä, mitä he ovat saaneet aikaan, on vasta alkua. Nyt he pystyvät tekemään mitä tahansa. 7Menkäämme sekoittamaan heidän kielensä, niin etteivät he ymmärrä toistensa puhetta.» 8Ja niin Herra hajotti heidät sieltä kaikkialle maailmaan, ja he lakkasivat rakentamasta kaupunkia. 9Kaupunki sai nimen Babylon, sillä siellä Herra sekoitti ihmisten kielen ja sieltä hän hajotti heidät kaikkialle maailmaan.

Ja kuten olen jossain sanonut, maailmasta löytyy yksi yhteisö, jonka vahvuus on yhteinen kieli. Heidän suurta kirjaansa resitoidaan pääosin arabiaksi kaikkialla maailmassa maasta, kansasta ja kulttuurista riippumatta.

Samalla kun länsimaiden pirstoutunutta kulttuuria ja kieltä pirstotaan edelleen, toiset keräävät tiiliä omaan baabelin torniinsa.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.05.2024, 13:07:10
Uusinta tästä samasta ketjusta suosikkiteemastani "massojen ajatusten vammauttaminen sotkemalla heidän ajattelunsa ja viestintänsä väline, kieli".

Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2021, 16:25:12... sanojen tuhoaminen oli se mistä Orwell meitä varoitti. Jos sanaa ei saa käyttää [neekeri], eikö se silloin ole tuhottu? Mitä enemmän sanoja tuhotaan, sitä vaikeampaa meidän viestiä toisillemme ja tai edes ajatella itse selkeästi, ja yhdistyä hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan.

3. Lisäksi ... postmoderni, hevonpaskajargonia pursuava kielenkäyttöä tähtää siihen, että kansa ei voi yhdistyä hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan, koska kansalaiset eivät ymmärrä toisiaan, tai edes itseään, saati sitten johtajiensa todellisia tarkoitusperiä.

4. Samaan tähtää myös sanojen merkitysten laajentaminen niin paljon, että yksi sana voi tarkoittaa ihan vastakkaisia asioita, kuten "demokratia", "tasa-arvo" ja "liberaali". Mitä enemmän sanojen merkityksiä tuhotaan laajentamalla niitä, sitä vaikeampaa meidän viestiä toisillemme, tai edes ajatella itse selkeästi.

Ja yhdistyä hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan.

5. Tämä on ikivanha teema, ainakin yhtä vanha Vanhan Testamentin kertomus Baabelin tornista, jonka rakentajat kurkottivat liian korkealle, josta syystä sikäläinen jumalapomo sekoitti kansojen kielet.

6. Samaa teemaa jatkoi Machiavelli teoksessaan Ruhtinas (Prince), jossa Ruhtinaan tärkein tehtävä oli estää kansaa yhdistymää hallitsevaa eliittiä vastaan mm. sotkemalla heidän kielensä.

[- sanojen kieltäminen sensuroinnoilla,
- postmoderni hevonpaskajargoni,
- sanojen merkityksen tuhoamien laajentamalla niiden merkitystä ja
- orwellilainen kaksoispuhe]

eivät ole yksittäistapauksia vaan kaikki samaa jatkumoa: ihmisten ajattelu- ja kommunikointivälineen tuhoamista.


Näin kansa polarisoidaan eri blokkeihin, jotta siitä ei olisi haittaa hallitsevalle kansainväliselle eliitille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 18.05.2024, 04:17:44
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.05.2024, 08:58:11
Orwell 1984 kirjassa sanojen tuhoaminen oli kaunis asia. Wokettajat yrittävät tehdä saman kieliopille. Tavoite on viestinnän vammauttaminen vammauttamalla viestinnän väline, kieli. Näin yksilöt, ryhmittymät ja massat eivät ymmärrä toisiaan, eivätkä voi yhdessä nousta yhteistä vihollistaan - epädemokraattista hallintoa - vastaan, vaan tappelevat keskenään. Selkeiden ajatusten muodostamien jopa yksilölle on mahdotonta, jos ajattelun väline, kieli, on vammautettu.

Juuri noin se menee, newspeak yritetään saada läpi vaikka väkisin. Mutta minusta alkaa tuntua että woke alkaa jo laimentua, pari vuotta niin koko "fad" menee ohi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 19.05.2024, 09:35:46
Joku kyläseppä voisi kehitellä ämpärillisen meemejä nonbinäärisestä tietokoneesta.
Vitsejä ja muita.

Mies menee sateenkaarilipuin varustettuun tietokonekauppaan ja ihmettelee, kun mikään ohjelmisto ei toimi liikkeen tietokoneissa. "Nämä ovat ei-binäärisiä", kertoo kauppias.

Millainen on nonbinäärinen tietokone? Siinä bitillä voi olla yli 6000 eri tilaa.
Miten sellainen voi toimia? Ei se voikaan. Jokainen kone on yksilö ja siksi tarvitsee uniikin käyttöjärjestelmän.

Miksi tämä mielipidekirjoitukseni vääristyy teidän lehdessänne ihan joksikin muuksi?
Koska se on kirjoitettu binäärisellä tietokoneella. Ladonta- ja taittojärjestelmämme on nonbinäärinen ja sillä on ongelmia käsitellä binäärisiä kirjoituksia.

Miksi nonbinäärisessä ASCII-koodissa on yli miljoona merkkiä?
Koska jokainen merkki voi valita yli 6000 bitistä miten se muodostuu.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.05.2024, 04:54:26
Woke-hulluus hiipuu pian | Kaffepaussi | 97
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET3HDInYkLY
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.05.2024, 13:07:50
Mielenkiintoista, että valtamedia sai suurimman osan urheilijaroolimalleista tost' noin vaan polvistumaan yliannostaja-sarjarikollisen (8 kertaa vankilassa) edessä, joka on ehkä huonoin esikuva mitä maailmanhistoriasta  löytyy, H1tl3rin handlerin jälkeen. Ihmiskunnan sivistyksen kuori on ohut ja helposti säröilevä.

"It was actually a psyop. Created to get everyone in an uproar.. and it worked. Look at all the chaos it creates and everyone falls for it every time."

[tweet]1794600822833365356[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 29.05.2024, 14:30:10
DEI Ruined UCLA Medical School
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cCwFByQRM8
QuoteHalf of UCLA Medical school students are failing basic medical competency tests. And we have DEI— diversity, equity, and inclusion, to thank.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 29.05.2024, 21:07:18
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 29.05.2024, 14:30:10
DEI Ruined UCLA Medical School
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cCwFByQRM8
QuoteHalf of UCLA Medical school students are failing basic medical competency tests. And we have DEI— diversity, equity, and inclusion, to thank.

Tuommoinen "iltalypsy" uutinen, mutta jos siitä edes kymmenesosa pitää paikkansa, tämä maailma on menetetty.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.06.2024, 00:21:49
Kenkää wokekenraaleille.

[tweet]1797303183540212061[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 05.06.2024, 00:04:04
Wokeen näyttää jotenkin nykyään liittyvän AI. Koettakaapa vaikka ChatGPT:lle "Generate a comic picture of Hitler", niin ei onnistu. Herra H aiheuttaa vissiin paniikkireaktion pikku AI lumihiutaleessa.

AI tulee olemaan semmoinen kun se opetetaan. Mitä v***** ollaan nyt sille opettamassa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 06.06.2024, 02:34:25
White People: America's Unprotected Class | Guest: Jeremy Carl | Ep 1014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcAvmfLlb2A
QuoteToday, we sit down with author and senior fellow at the Claremont Institute Jeremy Carl to discuss his new book, "The Unprotected Class: How Anti-White Racism Is Tearing America Apart." How is anti-white racism invading American workplaces and the evangelical church? How does anti-white discrimination impact high-risk career paths, including pilots and doctors? And what should conservative Christians do to combat white guilt masked as humility?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Radio on 06.06.2024, 06:07:12
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 05.06.2024, 00:04:04
Wokeen näyttää jotenkin nykyään liittyvän AI. Koettakaapa vaikka ChatGPT:lle "Generate a comic picture of Hitler", niin ei onnistu. Herra H aiheuttaa vissiin paniikkireaktion pikku AI lumihiutaleessa.

AI tulee olemaan semmoinen kun se opetetaan. Mitä v***** ollaan nyt sille opettamassa?

Juur sitä itseään eli puhdasta paskaa on tekoälyjen takana olevien tahojen USA-moraalinen koodisto. Moderointi on ankaraa ja sen kiertäminen ovelasti kivaa!


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jaska Pankkaaja on 06.06.2024, 06:11:07
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 18.05.2024, 04:17:44
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.05.2024, 08:58:11
Orwell 1984 kirjassa sanojen tuhoaminen oli kaunis asia. Wokettajat yrittävät tehdä saman kieliopille. Tavoite on viestinnän vammauttaminen vammauttamalla viestinnän väline, kieli. Näin yksilöt, ryhmittymät ja massat eivät ymmärrä toisiaan, eivätkä voi yhdessä nousta yhteistä vihollistaan - epädemokraattista hallintoa - vastaan, vaan tappelevat keskenään. Selkeiden ajatusten muodostamien jopa yksilölle on mahdotonta, jos ajattelun väline, kieli, on vammautettu.

Juuri noin se menee, newspeak yritetään saada läpi vaikka väkisin. Mutta minusta alkaa tuntua että woke alkaa jo laimentua, pari vuotta niin koko "fad" menee ohi.
Kuoha laskee mutta mätä on jo levinnyt rakenteisiin mikä on paljon haitallisempaa kuin koomisten MT-tukkien ulina. Siis täysin sama prosessi kuin kommunismissa. Äääärioikeistohalluksemme politiikka on hyvä esimerkki tästä syvälle kaikkialle levinneestä punamädästä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 08.06.2024, 12:16:47
Woke ottaa uusia kierroksia jenkeissä, jossa 4.9.2024 pidetään miss USA kisat.

Maryland kisailee uudella upealla miesehdokkaalla, kambodzalaisella naimisissa olevalla transvestiitillä Bailey Anne Kennedy. Aikaisemmin missiehdokkaan piti olla naimaton nainen, mutta nyt säännöt on muutettu enemmän inklusiiviseksi siten, että naimisissa oleva mies on yhtä pätevä.

Kennedy iloitsee voitostaan toteamalla, että naisia tulee juhlia "riippumatta heidän sukupuolesta".

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/transgender-contestant-crowned-miss-maryland-touts-women-being-celebrated-no-matter-their-gender/ar-BB1nQ0fj

QuoteTransgender contestant Bailey Anne Kennedy won Miss Maryland USA this past Saturday.

...  Kennedy's victory marked multiple firsts, the first transgender contestant, the first Asian American contestant, the first to win the crown at age 31, the first married contestant to win and the first military officer's spouse to win the state-level competition in 67 years.

Alabama vuorostaan tuo oman painonsa kisaan nimittämällä 200+ kiloisen [arvio] Sara Millikenin miss Alabamaksi:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/who-is-miss-alabama-2024-sara-milliken-hits-back-after-being-called-unhealthy/ar-BB1nNote

QuoteThe 23-year-old was delighted to learn she won the crown in the National American Miss pageant, with an Instagram post showcasing the achievement.

"I'm so honored to introduce myself as your National American Miss Alabama 2024," she wrote, adding that it was "a dream that has been 8 years in the making."

Saara osallistui kisoihin jo kolmatta kertaa ja kehuu haastattelussa harjoitelleensa joka päivä vuoden ajan kisoihin, tosin ei hampurilaisia syömällä vaan harjoittelemalla missipuhettaan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QeCrqL96YU

Toisissa uutisissa saamme tietää, että "akateemikot" ovat tutkimuksessaan todenneet sanan "gynekologi" olevan sortava, "kätilö" on patriarkaalinen ja kolonialistinen jäänne ja suurin osa synnyttäjistä ovat naisia:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/term-gynecologist-offensive-according-scholars

QuoteMidwives should avoid saying "gynecologist" in order to be more "inclusive," according to a recent academic paper. Not because it sounds like "guy," but because the word comes from the Greek for woman. Instead, say "reproductive health specialist." The same scholars also say men can give birth.

Other problematic words include "breastfeeding" and "breastmilk." Instead, midwives should say "human milk feeding," "human milk provision," and "milk from the feeding parent." The new language guide comes from Sally Pezaro, a professor and midwife who works at Coventry University in the United Kingdom.
...
their "inclusive" language guide says to avoid saying "men/fathers/dads," and instead say "non-gestational parents."
...
"If midwifery [kätilö] is indeed a feminist profession, it, therefore, follows that it should reject any re-affirmation of a European patriarchal sex binary rooted in colonialism, and fight for reproductive justice to the benefit of all who birth, the majority of whom are cisgender women," the authors write.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 11.06.2024, 06:43:51
Tämä on kiinnostava. Värillinen tuomari, joka korvasi vanhan valkoisen miehen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Nn3bD-9u0
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 11.06.2024, 08:12:52
Quote from: P on 11.06.2024, 06:43:51
Tämä on kiinnostava. Värillinen tuomari, joka korvasi vanhan valkoisen miehen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Nn3bD-9u0

Pihvin löytäminen juutuupilähetyksistä on usein vaivan takana.  Tapauksesta löytyy tietoa myös mustaa valkoisella:

https://historyenhanced.com/first-black-female-judge-fired-due-to-systemic-incompetence-article/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lasse on 15.06.2024, 19:16:20
Tää hulluttelu jatkuu ja menee yhä kreisimmäksi, kunnes se loppuu:

UNBELIEVABLE: "So you can expose yourself to young children in Oregon?"
https://rumble.com/v51gz7h-unbelievable-so-you-can-expose-yourself-to-young-children-in-oregon.html (https://rumble.com/v51gz7h-unbelievable-so-you-can-expose-yourself-to-young-children-in-oregon.html)
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This Is UNBELIEVABLE 🚨 "You're saying in the state of Oregon, someone can walk up in to to your 2 year old kid completely bare naked, and that's not a crime even if it's on your property?"

Police Officer "Correct. There's no laws against the actual nudity portion of it"

"So you can expose yourself to children in Oregon?"

Police Officer "— Yes, you are allowed to walk around in public naked."

You need to watch this whole exchange, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 15.06.2024, 21:52:44
Lasten hyväksikäyttökin sitten on vähän suhteellinen käsite... :silakka:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 15.06.2024, 23:36:12
^ Päästään aina ikuisuuskysymykseen - mikä on pahempaa lapselle: Alastomat ihmiset tekemässä "rakkauden asioita" vai silmitön väkivalta? Jenkkikonservatiivihan sanoo että noista tuo ensimmäinen. Itse en olisi siitä niin varma.

Toki en ole sanomassa etteikö esim alkuviikon Keravan junan kikkelimies olisi mitään muuta kuin häiriintynyt pervo.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lasse on 15.06.2024, 23:45:44
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 15.06.2024, 23:36:12
^ Päästään aina ikuisuuskysymykseen - mikä on pahempaa lapselle: Alastomat ihmiset tekemässä "rakkauden asioita" vai silmitön väkivalta? Jenkkikonservatiivihan sanoo että noista tuo ensimmäinen. Itse en olisi siitä niin varma.

Toki en ole sanomassa etteikö esim alkuviikon Keravan junan kikkelimies olisi mitään muuta kuin häiriintynyt pervo.

Ymmärtääkseni mies tuli alastomana tontille, ja ensimmäisenä vastassa oli kaksivuotias lapsi.

Oregonissa siis näköjään tuosta alastomana kekkuloinnista ei tule erillistä penaltia, vaan pitää vaan kauniisti pyytää vierasta poistumaan.

Ehkä isä nyt oppi, että ei kannata soittaa poliisille, seuraavalla kerralla...

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The Mayor : Callahan... I don't want any more trouble like you had last year in the Fillmore district. You understand? That's my policy.

Harry Callahan : Yeah, well, when an adult male is chasing a female with intent to commit rape, I shoot the bastard - that's my policy.

The Mayor : Intent? How'd you establish that?

Harry Callahan : When a naked man is chasing a woman through a dark alley with a butcher knife and a hard on, I figure he isn't out collecting for the Red Cross.

[leaves]

The Mayor : I think he's got a point.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066999/characters/nm0006893 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066999/characters/nm0006893)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 15.06.2024, 23:58:46
Quote from: Lasse on 15.06.2024, 23:45:44
Oregonissa siis näköjään tuosta alastomana kekkuloinnista ei tule erillistä penaltia, vaan pitää vaan kauniisti pyytää vierasta poistumaan.

Ehkä isä nyt oppi, että ei kannata soittaa poliisille, seuraavalla kerralla...
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Oregon ei ole mikään Texas, siellähän "oreganon" pössyttelykin on laillista. Kysymys lienee oliko nakupelle pedo vai hippipilviveikko. Jos jälkimmäinen, ei se lapsi siitä pilalle mennyt.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 20.06.2024, 21:51:12
[tweet]1803833834946883901[/tweet]
Quote from: James O'Keefe, Linkki
BREAKING: Senior Vice President at The Walt Disney Company details discriminatory hiring practices: "Nobody else is going to tell you this, but they're not considering any white males for the job," says Michael Giordano, a Vice President of Business affairs, "there's no way we're hiring a white male." Giordano reveals Disney uses "code words and buzzwords" to avoid legal action and even mentions a candidate being rejected for not looking black enough.  Giordano also admits Disney gives bonuses to executives for practicing Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI), agreeing that "diversity helps with financial incentives." Giordano further claims he's been denied promotions due to his race. 
Stay tuned for The Disney Tapes: Part 2...
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 21.06.2024, 08:27:44
Quote from: Lasse on 15.06.2024, 19:16:20
Tää hulluttelu jatkuu ja menee yhä kreisimmäksi, kunnes se loppuu:

UNBELIEVABLE: "So you can expose yourself to young children in Oregon?"
https://rumble.com/v51gz7h-unbelievable-so-you-can-expose-yourself-to-young-children-in-oregon.html (https://rumble.com/v51gz7h-unbelievable-so-you-can-expose-yourself-to-young-children-in-oregon.html)
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This Is UNBELIEVABLE 🚨 "You're saying in the state of Oregon, someone can walk up in to to your 2 year old kid completely bare naked, and that's not a crime even if it's on your property?"

Police Officer "Correct. There's no laws against the actual nudity portion of it"

"So you can expose yourself to children in Oregon?"

Police Officer "— Yes, you are allowed to walk around in public naked."

You need to watch this whole exchange, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE

Maailma olisi parempi paikka, jos alastomuus ei olisi tabu.

Jos vaikka nudisti leikkaa oman puutarhansa nurmikkoa alasti, sen ei pitäisi olla mitään erikoista. Yleensä nudistit ovat kuitenkin korrekteja eivätkä tyrkytä itseään alasti toisten näkösälle. Tykkäävät toimia pensasaidan suojissa.

Ja nudistinhan erottaa tavallisesta ihmisestä se, että kun tavallinen ihminen riisuu vain peseytymistä ja seksiä varten, nudisti voi ilkosillaan laittaa ruokaa, syödä, leikata nurmikkoa, hoitaa puutarhaa tai ajaa autoa.

Nyt kuitenkaan tarina ei kerro, kuka toikkaroija oli. Oliko naapurin nudistilta loppunut ruohonleikkurista bensa ja tullut naapurista kysymään lisää?

Minusta alastomuuden hyväksyminen ja alastonkulttuurin harjoittaminen ei liity mitenkään ketjun wokeaiheisiin. Näistä on ameriikassakin väännetty jo ennen kuin kukaan oli kuullutkaan prideistä tai wokeista.

-i-

MUOKS: Katsoin tuon videon pätkän. Nuori mies näki pihallaan kekkuloivan alastoman miehen ja kaksivuotias poikansa oli pihalla. Mitä tekee mies? Juoksee paikalle ja peittää poikansa silmät.
Mitä olisi tehnyt suomalainen? Olisi mennyt miehen luokse ja käskenyt suksia kuuseen ja kertonut sen jälkeen lapselle miten typerää tuollainen käytös on.
Mutta että peittää silmät? Äkkiä, poikalapseni ei saa turmeltua. Hän ei saa nähdä aikuisen miehen kikkeliä.
Tuosta keskustelusta kun ilmeni se, että mies oli vain ollut alasti. Mies lopuksi järkyttyneenä valhetteli, että mitään ei ole tehtävissä ennen kuin mies tekee jonkun seksuaalisen provokaation ja vasta sitten voi soittaa poliisit? No olihan tehtävissä. Äijän voi heittää pihaltaan veks, kun on luvatta toisen tontilla. Se on mielestäni se suurempi kysymys kuin se, mitä vaatteita tällä on päällä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.06.2024, 10:13:53
Quote from: Skeptikko on 20.06.2024, 21:51:12
... "there's no way we're hiring a white male."

Mitähän ryhmää tämä valkoiselta näyttävä mies mahtaa edustaa.

Retorinen.

QuoteRobert Sepehr @robertsepehr

How is this not illegal in America? What happened to judging people on merit and not race? Was the civil rights movement and all that stuff about "equality" just Marxist propaganda? Anti-white racism is not only racist, but it will result in a collapse of civilization.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.06.2024, 12:08:58
Huumoria tähän väliin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lasse on 23.06.2024, 13:24:27
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 23.06.2024, 13:59:43
^^ Joo Boingboingillahan meneekin tunnetusti nyt tosi hyvin...  ;D Kuulemma 737MAX myynti on loppunut kokonaan.

Mites se nyt oli mm. Roger Rabbitissa: "A shave and a haircut - two bits!"

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 26.06.2024, 18:14:19
Eleonoora Riihisen mukaan valtamedian cancel-kulttuuri ei canceloi ihmisiä tarpeeksi tasapuolisesti ja totaalisesti, kun Mel Gibsonista saa kirjoittaa kevyitä kesäjuttuja, joissa ei tuomita hänen "rasistista menneisyyttään".

QuoteKun Mel Gibson hymyilee ja suostuu yhteiskuviin, ei suomalaisia hänen rasistinen menneisyytensä paina

Media seurasi suurella kiinnostuksella Mel Gibsonin liikkeitä Suomessa. Gibsonin crocsit mainittiin mutta rasistista menneisyyttä ei, kirjoittaa HS:n Eleonoora Riihinen.

SIINÄ ei ole mitään uutta, että suomalaiset sekoavat, jos joku Hollywood-tähti sattuu eksymään tänne pussin perälle.

Muistelemme vieläkin unelmaminiäämme Geena Davisia, joka kävi täällä kehumassa Lapin taikaa 1990-luvulla. Me suorastaan liikutuimme, kun näyttelijä Emma Thompson sanoi maaliskuussa, että kansamme lapioi lunta "uskomattomalla tarmolla" ja "valittamatta" kuin joulupukin pikkuapurit konsanaan!

HS:n ja muiden medioiden tarkka seuranta elokuvatähti Mel Gibsonin liikkeistä porvoolaisella ja espoolaisella terassilla on samaa jatkumoa.
Maailmantähden kohtaaminen arjessa tietysti sykähdyttää, ja media kertoo siitä, mikä ihmisiä kiinnostaa.

[...]

GIBSONIN juhannusvierailusta tehtiin kymmeniä juttuja, ja niissä on ilahtunut tunnelma. En huomannut, että niissä olisi mainittu kohuista, jotka ovat varjostaneet 68-vuotiaan Mad Max -tähden uraa.

[...]

MÖLÄYTYKSET ja kohut himmensivät hetkeksi Gibsonin tähteyttä, mutta jo vuonna 2016 hän oli Oscar-ehdokkaana ohjaamastaan sotaelokuvasta Hacksaw Ridge.

Viime vuonna ilmestyi kohua herättänyt Sound of Freedom -elokuva, jonka on sanottu flirttailevan Qanon-salaliittoteorioiden kanssa. Gibson oli elokuvan vastaava tuottaja.

Näyttelijä on tehnyt myös yhteistyötä konservatiiviyleisölle elokuvia tekevän S. Graig Zahlerin kanssa indie-elokuvassa nimeltä Dragged Across Concrete (2018). Siinä Gibson näyttelee väkivaltaista poliisia, joka sutkauttelee rasistisia ja sukupuolivähemmistöjä halventavia juttuja.

Niin kutsuttu cancel-kulttuuri kohtelee eri ihmisiä eri tavalla. Mel Gibson on siitä elävä esimerkki.

Mutta ehkä sitä ei sovi pohtia, kun maailmantähti vierailee suomalaisputiikeissa ja suostuu kohteliaasti yhteiskuviin.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/taide/art-2000010523514.html) 26.6.2024

Aika kohtuutonta edellyttää cancel-ihmisiltä johdonmukaisuutta ja tasapuolisuutta edes cancel-puheissaan ja -toimissaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 03.07.2024, 19:35:58
Molarituben uusin podcast sopisi tänne.

Tunteiden aikakausi - tunnepopulismi ajaa yhteiskuntaa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyveH2tgZT4
QuoteAsioita ajetaan nykyisin tunteilla. Asioita perustellaan tunteilla. Tunteet myyvät. Politiikkaa tehdään tunteisiin vetoavalla populismilla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 15.07.2024, 07:47:20
DEI pelleily uhattuna :( Ainakin Salaisen palvelun osalta.
[tweet]1812689430987305341[/tweet]
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 15.07.2024, 23:36:00
Suomessa on tiettävästi ensimmäistä kertaa syntynyt lapsi, jonka on synnyttänyt lapsen isä. Asiasta uutisoivan Lännen Median (http://www.ts.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/3900012/Isa+synnytti+vauvan+ensi+kertaa+Suomessa++vauvaarki+sujuu+hyvin+vaikka+miehen+henkilotunnus+esti+aitiyspaivarahan+hakemisen+netissa) mukaan laskettu aika oli maaliskuun alkupuolella, mutta vauva antoi odottaa itseään pari viikkoa pitempään.
Lapsen synnyttänyt isä on määritetty syntyessään naiseksi, mutta hän on käynyt läpi sukupuolen korjausprosessin ja saanut toissa vuonna miehen henkilöllisyystunnuksen. Hän päätti keskeyttää tilapäisesti hormoniterapiansa, jotta voisi kokeilla lapsen hankkimista puolisonsa kanssa.Raskaus sujui lapsen synnyttäneen isän mukaan ongelmitta.– Vauvalla oli painoa melkein neljä kiloa ja pituutta 53 senttiä, isä kertoo.Pari viimeistä viikkoa olivat aika tuskaisia, silloin alkoi vähän huumori loppua. Synnytys meni kuitenkin tosi hyvin, hän jatkaa.Pariskunta kertoi lokakuussa Lännen Median haastattelussa, että paperityö oli ollut heille ongelmallista. Terveydenhuollon tietojärjestelmät eivät tunnista tilannetta, jossa raskaana olevalla on miehen henkilöllisyystunnus. Ongelmia oli tämän takia sekä neuvolassa että sairaalassa, pariskunta kertoi. https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000005628254.html
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.07.2024, 23:50:25
Quote from: supersankaritar on 15.07.2024, 23:36:00Suomessa on tiettävästi ensimmäistä kertaa syntynyt lapsi, jonka on synnyttänyt lapsen isä.

"Pari viimeistä viikkoa olivat aika tuskaisia ..."

Ai jaa? Mutta entäs se itse synnytys sitten?  Onhan se miehen virtsaputki kuitenkin suhteellisen tiukkaa tavaraa! Miten tuskaista se mahtoikaan olla ...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 16.07.2024, 00:41:06
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.07.2024, 23:50:25
Quote from: supersankaritar on 15.07.2024, 23:36:00Suomessa on tiettävästi ensimmäistä kertaa syntynyt lapsi, jonka on synnyttänyt lapsen isä.

"Pari viimeistä viikkoa olivat aika tuskaisia ..."

Ai jaa? Mutta entäs se itse synnytys sitten?  Onhan se miehen virtsaputki kuitenkin suhteellisen tiukkaa tavaraa! Miten tuskaista se mahtoikaan olla ...
No voihan vee...  8)
Onnea Isälle...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 16.07.2024, 03:37:00
Miesten kriteereillä testin läpäisisi jotain 5% naisista, joka ei tietenkään käy. Pakkoko heitä on laittaa etulinjaan, jonkun saatanan kiintiön takia. Kun ovat saletisti motivoituneita ja päteviä hieman vähemmän vaarallisissa tehtävissä.
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Kun tämä menee läpi niin äkkiä sama laki tännekin!
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.07.2024, 16:36:49
Lallitar vihaa DEItä, koska sen vuoksi ihmiset voivat ajatella, että naiset eivät ole ansainneet paikkojaan omilla ansiollaan.

DEI on naisten vihollinen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 16.07.2024, 16:47:48
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.07.2024, 16:36:49
Lallitar vihaa DEItä, koska sen vuoksi ihmiset voivat ajatella, että naiset eivät ole ansainneet paikkojaan omilla ansiollaan.

DEI on naisten vihollinen.
DEI tarkoittaa nimenomaan sitä, että ei-valkoinen, ei-mies palkataan etupäässä muun  kuin pätevyyden vuoksi, mutta VHM pätevyyden.
Firma jossa harjoitetaan DEI politiikkaa tarkoittaa, että jos työntekijä on VHM hän on varmasti pätevä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 16.07.2024, 17:23:37
Quote from: supersankaritar on 15.07.2024, 23:36:00

Lapsen synnyttänyt isä on määritetty syntyessään naiseksi, mutta hän on käynyt läpi sukupuolen korjausprosessin ja saanut toissa vuonna miehen henkilöllisyystunnuksen. Hän päätti keskeyttää tilapäisesti hormoniterapiansa, jotta voisi kokeilla lapsen hankkimista puolisonsa kanssa.

Tuossa on juonenkäänteitä kokonaisen kirjaston edestä !1!!
Nainen ryhtyy mieheksi ja sen jälkeen vieläpä homomieheksi koska puoliso oli kykenevä siittämään ja mieheksi ryhtynyt nainen pysyi vain pillereillä erossa tiineydestä joka iski heti kun kuuri lopetettiin.
Sanoilla voidaan kikkailla vaikka kuinka paljon mutta luontoa ei huijata.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 16.07.2024, 19:36:12
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.07.2024, 16:36:49
Lallitar vihaa DEItä, koska sen vuoksi ihmiset voivat ajatella, että naiset eivät ole ansainneet paikkojaan omilla ansiollaan.

DEI on naisten vihollinen.

DEI on Jumala(n) latinaksi.

Vituttaa, jos kirjoitan googleen "Dei meaning" ajatellen messun Agnus Deitä, ja saan vastaukseksi pelkkää wokepaskaa.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Penan kaveri Eki on 17.07.2024, 10:47:40
Scorpionin biisi soi nyt jenkeissä:

QuoteMicrosoft laid off a diversity, equity, and inclusion team, citing "changing business needs."
https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-layoffs-dei-leader-email-2024-7


Pari putiikkia, jotka pääosin myyvät jyvägömmareille, saivat BLM:n jälkimainingeissa päähänpistoksen panostaa DEIhen. Aatos tuli nyt tiensä päähän.

John Deere

QuoteWe will:
• No longer funding pride parades
• Business resource groups will no longer be divided on identity lines
• Audit all training materials to ensure the absence of socially motivated messages
• No hiring quotas or pronoun usage
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/john-deere-releases-statement-rejecting-dei-policies-committed-our-customers
    https://twitter.com/JohnDeere/status/1813318977650847944

Amerikanmaan Hankkija, Tractor Supply:

QuoteWe will
    1. No longer submit data to the Human Rights Campaign
    2. Refocus our Team Member Engagement Groups on mentoring, networking and supporting the business
    3. Further focus on rural America priorities including ag education, animal welfare, veteran causes and being a good neighbor and stop sponsoring nonbusiness activities like pride festivals and voting campaigns
    4. Eliminate DEI roles and retire our current DEI goals while still ensuring a respectful environment
    5. Withdraw our carbon emission goals and focus on our land and water conservation efforts
https://corporate.tractorsupply.com/newsroom/news-releases/news-releases-details/2024/Tractor-Supply-Company-Statement/default.aspx

Analyysiä:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/edwardsegal/2024/07/13/lessons-from-tractor-supplys-sudden-reversal-on-its-commitment-to-dei/

MAGA-kaveri, piiskuri näiden korjausten takana:
    https://x.com/robbystarbuck
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 17.07.2024, 10:53:35
Kun on nousukausi, voi palkata mannekiineja. Kun tekee vähän tiukempaa, pitää alkaa sopeuttaa, ja silloin ei DEI paljon paina, vaan tuottavuus.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.07.2024, 23:31:43
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.07.2024, 00:11:56
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Timo Rainela on 23.07.2024, 14:49:58
Dystopiaa EUn suunnittelemana.
Pertti Rönkkö kommentoi Focus-lehden artikkelia.

https://www.facebook.com/pertti.ronkko/posts/pfbid0aZQnfGYLforvezT44X9vL4zeRDS3cDYLrgwgWdVaqijkhTveyAAmkFbKG9hN3RWcl

https://amp.focus.de/experts/vermoegensregister-geplant-eu-will-umfassende-datenbank-zum-vermoegen-aller-buerger-aufbauen-was-dahinter-steckt_id_260158959.html

Quote from: PRLäpinäkyvä kansalainen. -EU suunnittelee Focus-lehden mukaan kaikki kansalaiset käsittävää omaisuusrekisteriä, joka kattaa kaikkien ihmisten koko omaisuuden mukaan lukien kiinteistöt, pankkitilit, arvopaperit, ajoneuvot ja mahdollisesti myös taideteokset ja jalometallit. EU perustelee totaalirekisterään terrorismin torjumisella ja rahanpesun estämisellä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 25.07.2024, 11:26:30
DEI-ideologian kyseenalaistajille ei ole annettu Suomessa juuri palstatilaa, mutta Hesari on käynyt ennaltaehkäisevästi aggressiiviseen hyökkäykseen minkäänlaista kyseenalaistamista vastaan.

QuotePidetään tasa-arvo normaalina työhyvinvoinnin asiana

Tasa-arvosta ja monimuotoisuudesta työpaikoilla tuli Yhdysvalloissa osa identiteettisotaa. Retoriikka uhkaa levitä Suomeen.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000010583543.html) 24.7.2024

Harhautuksena siis, että DEI-ideologia muka tarkoittaa ihan vain "tasa-arvoa", jota ei kukaan voi vastustaa.

Quote from: Elina Lappalainen, HSTEKNOLOGIAJÄTTI Microsoft lomautti monimuotoisuuden, tasa-arvon ja osallistamisen kehittämiseen keskittyneen DEI-tiiminsä.

Kun Yhdysvaltojen presidenttiehdokasta Donald Trumpia ammuttiin hänen vaalitilaisuudessaan, tapahtuma sai oikeiston syyttämään salaisen palvelun naisia sekä DEI-politiikkaa.

Kamala Harrisin nouseminen ehdokkaaksi puolestaan pyritään leimaamaan "DEI-rekrytoinniksi".

Yhdysvalloissa DEI:stä (diversity, equity, inclusion) on tullut lähes woken veroinen lyömäase ja polarisoituneen identiteettisodan teema. Yritykset vetäytyvät, koska DEI:stä on tullut poliittinen riski konservatiivien hyökättyä sitä vastaan.

Tutkimuskeskus Pew:n mukaan 78 prosenttia demokraatteja kannattavista työntekijöistä sanoo, että DEI-toimet työpaikoilla ovat hyvä asia. Sen sijaan republikaaneista vain 30 prosenttia ajattelee samoin – ja 30 prosenttia republikaaneista ajattelee, että DEI on huono asia.

Yhdysvalloissa nousi vahva tasa-arvoa ja moninaisuutta vaativa aalto mustan George Floydin murhan jälkeen. Myös yrityksissä palkattiin DEI-työntekijöitä. Nyt jo yli vuoden ajan yhdysvaltalaiset mediat ovat kirjoittaneet DEI:n olevan vastatuulessa.

Hälytyskellojen pitäisi soida, kun DEI liitetään George Floydin kuoleman jälkeisiin väkivaltaisiin mellakoihin ja järjettömiin vaatimuksiin kuten poliisin rahoituksen poistamiseen, ja tätä kutsutaan "tasa-arvoa ja moninaisuutta vaativaksi aalloksi". Kuvaavaa sekin, että suomalainen toimittaja puhuu George Floydin yhteydessä "murhasta", vaikka suomalaisessa oikeuskäytännössä kyse olisi ollut määritelmällisesti taposta ja kuolemantuottamuksesta.

Quote from: Elina Lappalainen, HSKoska internetissä poliittinen retoriikka leviää meille nopeasti, olen miettinyt milloin DEI-vastustus rantautuisi Suomeen.

Tänä kesänä siitä on nähty merkkejä julkisessa keskustelussa.

SOMESSA on ollut selvää jo vuosia, että erityisesti yhdysvaltalaisesta oikeistosta mallia ottavat nuoret miehet ovat jo ottaneet teeman omakseen. Netin kuvalaudoilla ja foorumeilla he uskaltavat sanoa mitä ajattelevat, mutta työpaikan sisäisessä koulutuksessa niitä ajatuksia ei voi sanoa ääneen.

Eihän tasa-arvon ja yhdenvertaisuuden pitäisi olla mitään radikaalia vihervasemmistolaista politiikkaa. Kyse on länsimaisen demokratian perusarvoista.

Vastustajat näkevät, että yritysten pitäisi keskittyä bisnekseensä, ei "aktivismiin" tai jonkin agendan ajamiseen.

Todellisuudessa DEI-työn ytimessä on niin tavallinen asia kuin työhyvinvointi sekä yhdenvertaiset mahdollisuudet päästä töihin ja tulla siellä mukaan otetuksi. Yritykset myös haluavat ymmärtää erilaisten asiakasryhmien tarpeita ja saada houkuteltua parhaat osaajat mukaan näiden taustoista riippumatta.

"DEI-työn ytimessä" voi väittää olevan mitä vain, aivan kuten sosialismiakin voi perustella tasa-arvolla ja eriarvoisuuden poistamisella, mutta olennaisia ovat keinot ja tulokset, eivät väitetyt tavoitteet, joilla toimintaa oikeutetaan.

Toimittaja ei katso tarpeelliseksi selittää kolumnissaan, mitä DEI käytännössä tarkoittaa työpaikoilla ja miksi sitä pitäisi sinne tuoda. DEI kun ei korosta pätevyyttä ja tasa-arvoa vaan ryhmien uhrihierarkiaa.

Menepä sanomaan DEI-kouluttajalle, että rekrytoinnin pitää perustua värisokeasti pätevyyteen ja vain siihen. Tulee sanomista, paljon sanomista.

Quote from: Elina Lappalainen, HSSUOMESSA DEI-kouluttajat arvioivat, että työ on päässyt yrityksissä vasta alkuun. Nyt teeman politisoituminen voi pahimmillaan uhata sitä, mitä on saatu käyntiin.

Voi olla, että hyvän asian edistämisessä on tehty jotain virheitä. Englanninkieliset akateemiset termit voivat vieraannuttaa. Paradoksaalisesti puhe vähemmistöjen huomioimisesta voi aiheuttaa valtaväestössä huolia omasta asemasta.

Mitähän ne tehdyt virheet sitten ovat?

Minusta koko DEI-ideologian lähtökohta ryhmien ensisijaisuuden korostamisesta yksilöiden mahdollisimman objektiivisesti arvioitavien henkilökohtaisten kykyjen sijaan on vino ja virheellinen.

DEI-ideologia lähtee kiintiöajattelusta ja uhreiksi katsottujen ryhmien suosimisesta, mutta muistuttaisin toimittajaa, että kiintiöt ja esimerkiksi etnisen taustan perusteella suosiminen on edelleen Suomen laissa kiellettyä, siinä missä se on ideologian kotimaassa monin tavoin sallittua ja suotavaa.

Quote from: Elina Lappalainen, HSTodellisuudessa moninaisuus ei ole nollasummapeliä. Yhdenvertaisuuden edistäminen ei ole keneltäkään pois. Sen lähtökohta on erilaisten ihmisten kokemusten kuuntelemisessa ja toisten näkemysten ymmärtämisessä.

Ei lähdetä mukaan amerikkalaiseen DEI-sotaan. Pidetään se normaalina työhyvinvointiasiana.

Samaa mieltä. DEI-kouluttajat ja -kieli hittoon Suomesta.

Helsingin Sanomat: Räsänen ja Korhola mollaavat Yhdysvaltojen DEI-politiikkaa, mutta se on arkea myös Suomen eduskunnassa (https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000010570042.html) 18.7.2024

Helsingin Sanomat: Näin suuryritykset hyötyvät oikeiston mollaamasta henkilöstöpolitiikasta – "Kun työn­tekijät voivat hyvin, se heijastuu myös asiakkaisiin" (https://www.hs.fi/talous/art-2000010570150.html) 20.7.2024
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Post by: Roope on 25.07.2024, 12:30:28
Yle: Yhdysvaltalaisfirmat alkoivat karsia monimuotoisuutta lisääviä DEI-projektejaan (https://yle.fi/a/74-20100789) 25.7.2024

Quote from: YleVerkkomedia Business Insider kertoi viime viikolla, että ohjelmistoyritys Microsoft olisi lomauttanut yrityksen sisällä monimuotoisuutta, yhdenvertaisuutta ja osallisuutta käsittelevän DEI-tiimin (diversity, equity, inclusion).

Tiimin johtaja lähetti tuhansille Microsoftin työntekijöille sähköpostiviestin, jossa hän sanoi syyksi "muuttuneet liiketoimintatarpeet".

– Aidot, järjestelmää muokkaavat DEI-ohjelmat eivät ole enää niin liiketoimintakriittisiä tai -älykkäitä, mitä ne olivat vuonna 2020, tiimin johtaja kirjoitti sähköpostissa.

Microsoftin edustaja Jeff Jonesin mukaan yhtiön sitoutuminen monimuotoisuuteen ja osallisuuteen on pysynyt ennallaan. Hän ei kuitenkaan kommentoinut tarkemmin tiimin lakkauttamista tai sitä, kuinka moni on mahdollisesti irtisanottu.

Varmaan samanlaista tajunnanvirtaa kuin noiden DEI-ohjelmien perustamisenkin perustelu

Quote from: YleDEI-projektit alkoivat yleistyä Yhdysvalloissa erityisesti sen jälkeen, kun Black Lives Matter -liikkeestä tuli suuri ilmiö tummaihoisen miehen George Floydin kuoltua poliisin tukehduttamana pidätystilanteessa.

Esimerkiksi Microsoft julisti tuolloin, että se pyrkii kaksinkertaistamaan mustien johtajien määrän yrityksen sisällä vuoteen 2025 mennessä.

Miksi? Onko noilla jokin järjelliseksi laskettava yhteys, ja jos on, miten ihmeessä se liittyy Suomeen ja suomalaisiin yrityksiin?

Quote from: YleNyt yhdysvaltalaisista yhtiöistä muun muassa Zoomin, John Deeren, Googlen ja Metan on kerrottu vähentäneen panostuksiaan DEI-projekteihin. Wall Street Journal taas kertoi huhtikuussa, että monimuotoisuustavoitteet ovat myös alkaneet kadota monen yrityksen vuosikertomuksista.

Rana Foroohar kirjoitti Financial Timesissa tammikuussa, että yritysten johtoryhmät ovat alkaneet vaatia tuloksia DEI-ohjelmista, ja useissa tapauksissa niitä on ollut vaikea muuttaa luvuiksi.

Samaan aikaan konservatiiviset tahot ovat alkaneet vastustaa DEI-politiikka aggressiivisesti varsinkin sen jälkeen, kun Yhdysvaltain korkein oikeus päätti, että niin sanottua positiivista syrjintää ei saa käyttää korkeakoulujen pääsykokeissa.

DEI-ohjelmia on epäilemättä perusteltu lopputuloksen tasa-arvolla, mutta tuloksia ei ole tullut edes sillä mittarilla. Todellinen tavoite on ollut päästä levittämään yritysten sisällä vasemmistolaista propagandaa ryhmien uhrihierarkiasta ja valkoisten miesten etuoikeuksista.

Quote from: YleYritysvastuuverkosto FIBS:n monimuotoisuuteen ja ihmisoikeuksiin erikoistunut yritysvastuuasiantuntija Greta Andersson ei tekisi liian suuria johtopäätöksiä Yhdysvalloista kantautuneista uutisista.

Anderssonin mukaan tietoja on tulkittu jossain määrin kapeasti ja amerikkalaisyritykset panostavat monimuotoisuuteen huomattavasti laajemmin ja monipuolisemmin, mitä Suomessa on totuttu.

– Vaikka jotain tiimejä on vähennetty, se ei välttämättä tarkoita sitä, että se käytännön työ olisi millään tavalla muuttunut.

Anderssonin mukaan monimuotoisuustyö saatetaan mieltää ylimääräiseksi osaksi, joka lätkäistään jo tehtävän työn päälle tai ujutetaan jonnekin sivulle. Oikeasti kyse on laajemmasta organisaatiokulttuurin muutoksesta.

Pyritään luomaan sellaista työkulttuuria, jossa jokaisella työntekijällä olisi yhtäläiset mahdollisuudet ensinnäkin saada se työpaikka, mutta sen lisäksi myös toimia siellä työpaikalla ilman minkäänlaista leimaamisen tai syrjinnän pelkoa.

Miten näitä "yhtäläisiä mahdollisuuksia" parannetaan muuttamalla "työkulttuuria"? Syyllistämällä työpaikan valkoiset heteromiehet kuten DEI-ideologiassa? Tuskin.

Quote from: YleAalto-yliopiston organisaatioiden ja johtamisen professori Marjo-Riitta Diehlin mukaan DEI-teemat näyttäisivät kokevan takapakkia monista syistä.

Poliittinen ilmapiiri on polarisoitunut, ja yksittäiset termit saavat ihmisiä varpailleen. Vastareaktio monimuotoisuuteen voi olla hyvin voimakastakin, ja samojen asioiden edistämiseksi saatetaan nyt pohtia uusia tapoja.

Juu, ihan vain "yksittäisistä termeistä" ja "monimuotoisuuden" vastustamisesta kiikastaa, että vasemmistolaiseen VHM-vihaan perustuva BLM-ideologia ei oikein lennä.

Quote from: YleToisaalta on ehkä myös huomattu, että diversiteetti työyhteisössä itsessään ei tuo automaattisesti hyötyjä.

– Monessa firmassa on saattanut olla semmoinen vääristynyt käsitys, että kun saadaan töihin paljon hyvin erilaisia ihmisiä, niin sitten ollaan yhtäkkiä innovatiivisia, saadaan aikaan jännittäviä tuotteita ja se on hyvä maineelle ja työntekijöille.

Ketkäs tällaista vääristynyttä käsitystä ovat meille viime vuodet myyneet?

Quote from: YleMitä tulee DEI-asioiden mittaamiseen, monimuotoisuutta voi aina laskea katsomalla työntekijöiden sukupuolijakaumaa tai taustoja, mutta inklusiivisuuden tunne ja siitä saatavat hyödyt ovat jo vaikeampi asia.

Diehlin mukaan on kuitenkin olemassa selkeää tutkimusnäyttöä, että henkilöstön laaja diversiteetti johtaa yrityksissä parempiin tuloksiin.

Juuri tällaista vääristynyttä käsitystä.

Tutkimuksiin kyllä viitataan, mutta niitä ei koskaan lähteistetä edes yhden tutkimuksen verran.

Quote from: YleVaikka DEI:n trendi saattaa olla 2020-luvun alun ja Black Lives Matterin jälkeen nyt jonkinlaisessa alhotilassa, uskoo Marjo-Riitta Diehl asian tulleen jäädäkseen.

Ihmisten erilaisuus ja globalisaatio eivät ole katoamassa mihinkään. Työmarkkinoille on myös aina saapumassa nuorempia ja tietoisempia sukupolvia.

– Asia varmaankin pidemmällä aikahorisontilla normalisoituu niin, että ei enää välttämättä tarvita erityisesti jotain DEI-toimenpiteitä, vaikka tähän vielä onkin matkaa. Se tavallaan tulee osaksi hyvää, vastuullista johtamista ja yrityskulttuuria. Se on vain yksi piirre muiden joukossa.

Tässäkään jutussa ei kerrota, mitä nämä erityiset "DEI-toimenpiteet" ovat.

Quote from: YleMyös Greta Andersson on luottavaisin mielin: Vaikka Suomessa DEI-työssä ollaan esimerkiksi Yhdysvaltoja jäljessä, ainakaan vastatuulta hankkeille ei ole näkyvissä. Asia on oikeastaan päinvastoin. Alalle nousee koko ajan uusia toimijoita, ja aihetta käsittelevät tapahtumat myyvät nopeasti loppuun.

– Poliittinen ja yhteiskunnallinen järjestelmä on [Yhdysvaltoihin verrattuna] niin kovin erilainen, niin en jotenkin osaa pelätä samanlaisten reaktiivisten heiluriliikkeiden rantautuvan Suomeen.

Tulis talvi ja tappais nämä yritysten loiset.
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Post by: Caucasian on 25.07.2024, 13:47:51
DEI on yksinkertaisesti RASISMIA!
Ette pääse vihervassarit siitä mihinkään...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 25.07.2024, 16:46:22
Puopolon haastettelussa YLE:n DEI-politiikasta:

"Ylen juontaja DEI-koulutuksista: "Minun on pakko kertoa totuus" | Lloyd Libiso ja Sanna Ukkola"


https://youtu.be/TnYSSr-OirM?si=mDhTUUxbS3eAL1fx
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 25.07.2024, 18:10:18
Quote from: Caucasian on 25.07.2024, 13:47:51
DEI on yksinkertaisesti RASISMIA!
Ette pääse vihervassarit siitä mihinkään...

DEI on saatanasta. Se saa ihmiset kääntymään toisiaan vastaan.

Ja ne ressukat, jotka sitä kannattavat, luulevat olevansa oikeammassa kuin muut, eivätkä näe polarisaatiota vaan änkyröivän konservatiivilauman.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Will Rogers on 26.07.2024, 21:07:08
En tiedä kuuluuko tähän ketjuun, mutta vituttaahan tämä katsoa Pariisin olympialaisten avajaisia. Eka havainto, juontaja on homo. Toka havainto, ensimmäisenä saapuu tietysti Kreikan joukkue, mutta toisena tulee pakolaisten joukkue. Mitvit? Siis passinsa hukanneet läpsyttelijät ovat muodostaneet oman joukkueensa olympialaisiin ja tulevat kunniakansalaisina heti Kreikan jälkeen. Etelä-Afrikan joukkueessa on enemmistö valkoisia, mutta kuvaaja keskittyy vain alkupäässä oleviin neekereihin. Saksan lipunkantaja on myös n-sana ja häntä kuvataan.

Jos jotain positiivista haetaan niin sateenkaarilippuja ei näy. Jatketaan havaintoja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Juhan af Ghan on 26.07.2024, 23:48:42
Quote from: Will Rogers on 26.07.2024, 21:07:08
En tiedä kuuluuko tähän ketjuun, mutta vituttaahan tämä katsoa Pariisin olympialaisten avajaisia. Eka havainto, juontaja on homo. Toka havainto, ensimmäisenä saapuu tietysti Kreikan joukkue, mutta toisena tulee pakolaisten joukkue. Mitvit? Siis passinsa hukanneet läpsyttelijät ovat muodostaneet oman joukkueensa olympialaisiin ja tulevat kunniakansalaisina heti Kreikan jälkeen. Etelä-Afrikan joukkueessa on enemmistö valkoisia, mutta kuvaaja keskittyy vain alkupäässä oleviin neekereihin. Saksan lipunkantaja on myös n-sana ja häntä kuvataan.

Jos jotain positiivista haetaan niin sateenkaarilippuja ei näy. Jatketaan havaintoja.

Pakolaisten joukkuetta edustaa muun muassa iranilainen meloja Saman Soltani,
joka uimarina poseerasi uimapuvussa eivätkä musulmaanimullahit kotipuolessa tykänneet siitä.
Minun agendaani sopii aivan hyvin, jos olympialaisissa on saatanan iso islamia paenneiden joukkue ja selostajat myös kertovat,
miksi joukkueen jäsenet edustavat tätä joukkuetta. Ei toki tule tapahtumaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 27.07.2024, 16:58:17
DEI-ideologiaa on viime aikoina arvosteltu (ja ideologiaa sokeasti ajavaa Yleä sen mukana), joten mitä tekee Yle? Ei edelleenkään haastattele ensimmästäkään kriitikkoa vaan "asiantuntijoina" kahta DEI-kouluttajaa, jotka kertovat taatun objektiivisesti, mitä DEI oikeasti pitää sisällään ja mihin sitä tarvitaan.

Näin käydään laadukasta "keskustelua" Ylen johdolla.

Yle: Suomessakin varoitellaan DEIstä, mutta mitä se oikeastaan tarkoittaa? Asiantuntijat vastaavat (https://yle.fi/a/74-20101460) 26.7.2024

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Monimuotoisuuden edistäminen työelämässä ei ole uusi asia. Nyt monissa Yhdysvaltain suuryrityksissä DEI-ohjelmia on kuitenkin vähennetty.

Floridassa julkisten korkeakoulujen DEI-ohjelmat jopa kiellettiin viime vuonna. Osavaltion kuvernööri Ron DeSantisin mukaan DEI edistää syrjintää, eikä sille ole sijaa maan julkisissa organisaatioissa.

DEI tarkoittaa monimuotoisuuden, yhdenvertaisuuden ja osallisuuden tukemista.

Suomessakin DEI-koulutusta tehdään monilla työpaikoilla.

Yle kysyi kahdelta DEI-kouluttajalta, mitä DEI oikeasti pitää sisällään ja mihin sitä tarvitaan.

DEI ei tarkoita "monimuotoisuuden, yhdenvertaisuuden ja osallisuuden tukemista" vaan DEI:tä perustellaan tuolla. Hyvin eri asia kuten sosialismin teorian ja käytännön historia, josta ei ollakaan kaukana.

QuoteYksinkertaisuudessaan DEI-työn tavoite on yhdenvertaisuuden edistäminen.

Näin tiivistää DEI-koulutusta tarjoavan Includian toimitusjohtaja Jonna Louvrier. Louvrier on aiemmin tutkinut aihetta yliopistossa.

Tarkoitus on, että mahdollisuus liittyä työyhteisöön, edetä ja vaikuttaa, riippuu ainoastaan henkilön osaamisesta. Jokaisen tulisi myös voida kokea joukkoon kuulumista, arvostusta ja että on turvallista olla oma itsensä.

DEI-koulutuksessa ei korosteta yksilön osaamista ja pätevyyttä vaan niitä taustaryhmiä, joihin hänet liitetään.

QuoteYrittäjä Dakota Robin vetää DEI- ja ihmisoikeuskoulutuksia. Robinin mielestä DEIn kautta opitaan näkemään ihmisten eroavaisuudet toisiaan täydentävänä voimavarana.

– Niin kauan kun on ihmisiä töissä, ymmärrystä näitä asioita kohtaan tarvitaan.

Louvrierin mukaan koulutuksissa kohdataan omat ennakkoluulot ja etuoikeudet erilaisten harjoitusten kautta.

– Todennäköisesti teemme kaikki näissä teemoissa joskus virheitä. Tärkeää on toimia sen jälkeen myötätuntoisesti muita ja itseä kohtaan sekä sitoutua oppimaan lisää.

Robin laittaa koulutuksissaan myös itseään likoon ja puhuu omista sisäistetyistä ennakkoluuloistaan.

– Olemme kaikki kasvaneet tiettyjen kokemusten, ympäristöjen ja kulttuurien parissa. Vanhemmat sukupolvet eivät ole päässeet saman tiedon piiriin kuin nykypäivän nuoret. En sano, että heidän ei tarvitse oppia, mutta meidän pitää myötätuntoisesti jaksaa opettaa.

DEI-koulutus siis korostaa työntekijöiden eroavaisuuksia kuten etnistä taustaa (Yhdysvalloissa rotua), mutta sen sijaan, että ne pätevyyteen liittymättöminä jätettäisiin huomiotta, ne pitääkin DEI-ideologiassa nostaa keskiöön ja "nähdä voimavarana", vaikka ne eivät sitä ole.

QuoteVaikka palaute DEI-koulutuksista on Louvrierin ja Robinin mukaan pääosin positiivista, molemmat ovat törmänneet myös epäilijöihin.

Robinin mukaan vastareaktio syntyy usein valtaväestön ajatuksesta, että heidän tarpeensa sivuutetaan monimuotoisuuden edistämisessä.

– Usein sanon, että koulutukseen ei osallistuta vain siksi, että vähemmistöillä olisi helpompaa olla vaan siksi, että teillä kaikilla on helpompi olla. Kun ymmärrys lisääntyy, poistuu pelko ja ahdistus tehdä virheitä. Kaikilla on itsevarmempi olo olla erilaisten ihmisten kanssa.

Louvrier kokee, että vastustus kumpuaa muun muassa virheiden tekemisen pelosta, resurssien puutteesta tai tietämättömyydestä.

– Usein vastustus johtuu siitä, että ihmisellä väärä käsitys DEIstä. Joku voi luulla, että valintoja työpaikalla pitäisi tehdä sen perusteella, että kuuluu tiettyyn vähemmistöön. Näin ei millään tavalla ole.

Kouluttajat väistelevät sitä, mitä entiseen nähden uutta DEI-koulutus tuo työpaikoille, kun Suomessa on itsestäänselvyys ja laissa määritelty, että rekrytointikriteerinä on pätevyys eikä esimerkiksi etnisyys. Väistelevät jopa sitä, etteikö DEI-ideologiaan muka kuuluisi rekrytointi vähemmistöön kuulumisen perusteella. Totta kai kuuluu. DEI:n mukaan vähemmistöjä on edustettuina liian vähän, koska rasismi ja syrjintä.

QuoteLouvrier ei pidä kouluttamista aktivismina.

– Joku saattaa sanoa, että DEI ei kuulu työyhteisöön. Vastaan siihen, että ei pidä paikkaansa. Yhdenvertaisuus on terveen työyhteisön peruselementti. On olemassa hyvin paljon tutkimuksia, jotka osoittavat inklusiivisuuden hyödyt.

Tämänkin kiistävät, vaikka kouluttajat ovat tyypillisesti aktivisteja, eivät mitään ekonomeja.

Taas viittaus moniin "tutkimuksiin", mutta yhtään ei mainita nimeltä. Inklusiivisuus on asia erikseen, ja siihen voi pyrkiä monta kautta, mutta en usko, että on olemassa ainuttakaan DEI-koulutuksen konkreettiset hyödyt osoittanutta tutkimusta.

Quote[Niko] Pyrhösen mukaan DEIn varjolla halutaan aiheuttaa vastakkainasettelua.

Aiheen vastustajat pyrkivät puhuttelemaan sellaisia ihmisiä, joilla ei ole itsellään tai lähipiirissään kokemusta siitä, millaista on kuulua esimerkiksi etniseen tai seksuaaliseen vähemmistöön.

– Heihin on helppo vedota erilaisilla uhkakuvilla ja termeillä, kuten DEI.

Argumentointivirhe, ja kuvaava sellainen. DEI:hin suhtautumisella ei pitäisi olla tekemistä johonkin ryhmään kuulumisen tai kuulumattomuuden kanssa. Vähemmistöön kuuluvilla tuskin on selkeää käsitystä DEI:stä tai sen kummempia argumentteja sen puolesta, kun aktivistikouluttajillakaan ei ole, mutta epäilemättä se koetaan "oikeaksi" aivan kuten O.J. Simpsonin vapauttava murhatuomio. Nimenomaan koetaan.

QuoteLouvrier on kuullut yhdysvaltalaisilta kollegoiltaan, että maassa on heidän mielestään epäonnistuttu valtaväestön, eli valkoisten heteromiesten, osallistamisessa DEI-työhön.

– DEI ei ole vain vähemmistöjen, vaan ihan jokaisen asia.

Tästäkään jutusta ei käynyt mitenkään ilmi, mitä DEI ihan konkreettisesti on. Se ei tietenkään ole vain synonyymi tasa-arvolle ja tasa-arvokoulutukselle, kuten toimittajat ja kouluttajat yrittävät hämätä.

QuoteKeskustelu tästä aiheesta on päättynyt.

Ei, vaan Yle yritti lopettaa keskustelun aiheesta jo reilun neljän tunnin jälkeen. Siitä ehti selvitä, että toinen haastateltavista on Ylen DEI-arvojen kouluttaja, mistä ei ollut mainintaa. DEI-journalismi on tällaista.
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Post by: JiM on 27.07.2024, 21:00:19
Quote
Paris Olympics Mocks Christianity With Demonic Opening Ceremony | Kap Reacts

Pariisin olympialaiset pilkkaavat kristinuskoa demonisella avajaisseremonialla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im_BQ9fnzJg
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Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 27.07.2024, 22:04:11
Pariisin olympialaisten avaus oli rohkea seksuaalisen moninaisuuden, diversiteetin ja suvaitsevaisuuden julistus, jossa nähtiin muun ohella parrakas nainen ja lihava naispuolinen Jeesus. Odotin innolla milloin stagelle astuu profeetta Muhammed sika toisessa ja kuusivuotias Aisha toisessa kainalossa.

Vaan eipä näkynyt. DEI-porukalla ei perse kestänyt merivettä ainakaan tällä kertaa.
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Post by: Circus Hypno on 28.07.2024, 12:22:11
Rasistinen kirjoittelu vei videopelimestaruuden.


https://www.is.fi/digitoday/esports/art-2000010583625.html

QuotePELIJÄTTI Nintendo teki kovan päätöksen, kun Splatoon 3 -pelin maailmanmestaruuden voittaneen Team Jackpot -joukkueen pelaajien vuosien takaiset rasistiset kommentit lähtivät leviämään somessa.

Nintendo ilmoitti mitätöivänsä joukkueen voittaman maailmanmestaruuden. Pelaajat eivät saa mestaruuspokaaleja, minkä lisäksi Nintendo tekee muutoksia joukkueen pelinsisäiseen ja mestaruutta kunnioittavaan banneriin.

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PELAAJIEN epäasialliset ja rasistiset viestit lähtivät kesäkuussa leviämään X:ssä. Kuvakaappausten perusteella joukkueen pelaajista osa oli haukkuneet vuosien 2020–23 välillä niin aasialaisia kuin tummaihoisia rasistisesti.

Neljästä pelaajasta kaksi pyysi sanomisiaan anteeksi lähes välittömästi viestien lähdettyä leviämään. Kaksi pelaajista on asettanut X-tilinsä yksityiseksi.

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Post by: Siili on 31.07.2024, 13:25:11
Dei-meininkiin erittäin skeptisesti suhtautuva emeritusprofessori (biologia) Jerry Coyne (https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/07/30/the-ideological-capture-of-chemistry-chemophobia-and-social-justice/) kertoo dei-porukan uudesta huolenaiheesta, kemofobiasta.  Hän käsittelee kemian opetukseen keskittyvän lehden Journal of Chemical Education kommenttia Revisiting Chemophobia through a Social Justice Lens (https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.jchemed.3c01103).

Lainauksia lehen kommentista:

QuoteThese societal inequities are reflected and reproduced in chemistry. Stereotypes about who can and cannot succeed in chemistry persist, in combination with inequality of participation and research funding success statistics, leading to homogeneity in groups communicating and conducting scientific research.
QuoteChemistry-specific inequities also include privileging only certain, narrow forms of "expert" scientific knowledge, e.g., prioritizing academic language which advantages the dominant cultural groups of chemistry students, graduates, and academics–an "untranslatable code" for those outside. This leads to individuals who do not see themselves as "properly" scientific or think that genuine fears of chemistry and/or chemicals will be dismissed, developing chemophobic attitudes.

jne.

Kemian professori Jordan Beck (https://hxstem.substack.com/p/chemophobia-through-a-social-justice?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=618970&post_id=146588999&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=7wkab&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email) esittää myös skeptisen näkemyksensä kommentista.

Suomessa ei ole vielä taidettu esittää laajemmalti näkemyksiä, että kovien tieteiden opetus on rakenteellisesti syrjivää.

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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 31.07.2024, 14:34:19
Quote from: Roope on 25.07.2024, 12:30:28
Quote– Aidot, järjestelmää muokkaavat DEI-ohjelmat eivät ole enää niin liiketoimintakriittisiä tai -älykkäitä, mitä ne olivat vuonna 2020, [Microsoftin ] tiimin johtaja kirjoitti sähköpostissa.

DEI-ohjelmat ovat kriittisiä vain liiketoiminnan romuttamisessa. DEI saa lentokoneiden ovat aukeamaan lennon aikana, ja BUD -oluen myynnin romahtamaan. DEI-ohjelmat eivät siis ole pelkästään tarpeettomia ja rasistisia, vaan myös vaarallisia.

Elon Musk muuten antoi kenkää koko Twitter/X DEI-osastolle (kaikki naisia tai sellaisiksi identifioituneita), joka tarkoitti 80% henkilökunnasta!

Ainoa syy miksi DEI tungetaan joka paikkaan, ovat BlackRock ja muut isoimmat investointifirmat, jotka sanelevat pörssiyritysten toimitusjohtajille, että "jos firmasi DEItitä ja woketa, löydämme tilallesi sellaisen joka DEItitää ja wokettaa".

QuoteDEI-ohjelmia on epäilemättä perusteltu lopputuloksen tasa-arvolla, mutta tuloksia ei ole tullut edes sillä mittarilla.

Jeps. Kun pätevän tilalle palkaaan pätemätön, niin lopputuloksen tasa-arvo on se alin mahdollinen tulos kaikille asianomaisille. DEIttaus onnistuu tulosakselilla vain ja ainoastaan alaspäin. Loppupeleissä, jos sen annetaan jatkua, DEI tarkoittaa koko länsimaisen sivistyksen tuhoutumista, kun pätevät kautta linjan korvataan pätemättömillä, joiden oman kulttuurin huippuhetket ovat olleet savimajojen keksiminen.

QuoteTässäkään jutussa ei kerrota, mitä nämä erityiset "DEI-toimenpiteet" ovat.

Ne ovat timanttien korvaamista strösselillä kuorrutetulla paskalla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 31.07.2024, 18:13:24
Kallion lukion on kultti, jossa mm. pakotetaan leikkaamaan otsatukka, syömään kasvisruokaa, oppilaat juovat alkoholia ja polttavat pilveä jne. Ihanaa tämä vassarien kultti ja hyväksyntä erilaisia kohtaan:

https://www.tiktok.com/@panttipullo22/video/7396740026354240800

Samasta (?) lukiosta aiempi hörhöilyuutinen:

Kallion lukio vallattiin – opiskelijat vastustavat hallituksen leikkauksia: "Ahdistaa ja stressaa"
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010371889.html
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Helsingissä sijaitseva ilmaisutaitopainotteinen Kallion lukio on vallattu perjantain ja maanantain ajaksi. Lukion opiskelijat järjestivät mielenilmauksen vastustamaan hallituksen leikkauksia. Opiskelijat vastustavat leikkauksia koulutuksesta, pienituloisilta ja terveydenhuollosta.

Valtaajien puolesta puhuu lukion opiskelija Iisak Helin, 17, joka kertoo ajatuksen valtaukseen lähteneen viime syksyn Helsingin yliopiston valtauksesta.

– Siitä lähti sellainen aalto, että monet muutkin oppilaitokset lähtivät mukaan. Tällä kertaa me Kallion lukiolaiset ollaan pioneereja. Kallion lukiossa on paljon poliittisesti aktiivisia ihmisiä, jotka harrastavat aktivismia, Helin kertoo.

On vaikea sanoa kuinka kieli poskella video on tehty, mutta kyllähän Kallion taidelukioiden yleinen olemus on aika silmiinpistävää...
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Post by: Roope on 31.07.2024, 18:34:10
Huvitti:
Quote from: Skeptikko on 31.07.2024, 18:13:24
– Siitä lähti sellainen aalto, että monet muutkin oppilaitokset lähtivät mukaan. Tällä kertaa me Kallion lukiolaiset ollaan pioneereja. Kallion lukiossa on paljon poliittisesti aktiivisia ihmisiä, jotka harrastavat aktivismia, Helin kertoo.

Jo vanhempansa olivat pikku pioneereja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 01.08.2024, 17:37:08
Kun olympiaketjuun ei saanut kirjoittaa urheilusta, niin koetetaan tänne.

Quote from: Titus on 01.08.2024, 13:46:49

Naisten 66kg sarjassa nyrkkeilevä marokkolainen mies voitti ottelunsa kun Italian Carini käveli kulmaukseen muutaman kymmenen sekunnin jälkeen ja lopetti matsin siihen paikkaan.

Naisten nyrkkeilyissä on mukana kaksi miestä: 66kg sarjassa Khelif ja 57kg sarjassa Yu-Ting.

Oli irvokasta katsottavaa kun mies hakkasi naista. Ottelu kesti 45 sekuntia ennenkuin italialainen sai tarpeekseen. Voittajan julistuksen jälkeen äijä koitti mennä halailemaan, mutta nainen väisteli kaikki lähentely-yritykset ja lankesi polvilleen itkemään ja poistui sitten vihaisen näköisenä kehästä.

Naisselostajan kommentointi oli aika prycelessiä: "Hän on nyt tyytymätön jostain syystä", "hän näyttää olevan poissa tolaltaan". Ehkä se nyt hieman vatutti ja järkytti, kun olet treenannut täypäiväisesti monta vuotta ja sitten kohtaat kehässä miehen ja olympialaiset on siinä.

Kauan eläköön woke! Ja wattu että maailma menee aina vain sekopäisemmäksi.


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Post by: Siili on 01.08.2024, 17:49:48
Onkohan Kansainvälinen Olympiakomitea ainoa kansainvälinen järjestö, jonka alaisess toiminnassa miehet saavat ihan luvan kera hakata naisia?
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Post by: ikuturso on 01.08.2024, 18:05:50
Löysin jostain videon, jossa irlantilainen Justiina vetää ilmeisesti tokion olympialaisissa toyboy Khelifiä kuonoon niin että tuntuu.

Ai että tuntui hyvältä.

-i-

MUOKS: Olipa hesarin mukaan Potkonenkin antanut herralle kyytiiä:
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Suomalaisista ainakin Mira Potkonen on otellut Khelifin kanssa. Kaksikko kohtasi Bocskai Memorial -turnauksen loppuottelussa Unkarissa vuonna 2021.

Algerialaisen ulkomuoto kiinnitti Potkosen huomion tuolloin.

"Olen kerran otellut hänen kanssaan ja kyllä minä katsoin, että ei jumaliste, mikä mies sieltä tulee. Hän piti lyödessäänkin sellaista äijämäistä ääntä ja hänellä kasvoi pulisongit", Potkonen kertoo.

...

Potkonen vei Khelifistä voiton puhtaasti 5–0 tuomaripistein.

"En sekuntiakaan ajatellut sellaista. Vastustaja oli miesmäinen, mutta ei käynyt edes mielessä, että minun fysiikka ei riittäisi."
https://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000010598776.html (https://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000010598776.html)

Hesarin asiantuntemusta:
QuoteKansainvälisen nyrkkeilyliiton (IBA) puheenjohtaja Umar Kremlev kertoi Venäjän valtiollisen uutistoimiston Tassin haastattelussa, että MM-kisojen hylkäysten syynä olivat urheilijoille tehtyjen DNA-testien tulokset. Testissä havaittiin XY-kromosomeja, minkä takia nyrkkeilijät eivät olleet kilpailukelpoisia naisten puolella.

Mitä ovat XY-kromosomit? Noin kirjoitettuna pitäisi olla joku XY-kromosomi. X ja Y tai sukupuolikromosomit XY tai jotain.
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Post by: pjentti on 01.08.2024, 18:30:11
[tweet]1818990048479473694[/tweet]
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Post by: Kapseli on 01.08.2024, 19:26:16
Kyllä minä vähän nautin tästä. On aina hyvää viihdettä kun vasemmistoliberaalit menevät härkkimään luonnonvoimia haluamaansa suuntaan. Sitähän voi leikkiä vaikka mitä, mutta todellisuus ja maailmankaikkeus ei tule koskaan leikkimään mukana. Se on vain lopulta hyväksyttävä.
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Post by: supersankaritar on 02.08.2024, 21:31:23
Joidenkin mielestä tämäkään ei vielä riitä. Turun sanomien lukijan kirjoitus, jossa pohditaan mm. kuinka kinkyseksuaaleja syrjitään, vaikka se on yhdenvertaisuuslain piiriin kuuluva asia ja ollaan kovasti huolissaan, että ihmiset joutuvat piilottelemaan omaa kinkyyttään.
Kirjoittaja vaatii myös kinkyydestä kappaleita oppimateriaaliin ja kerrotaan kyseessä olevan syrjintä.
Luin jutun jo kun se ilmestyi, mutta se jäi mieleen kaivelemaan, koska aidosti en nyt ymmärrä, millä tavoin kinkyjä syrjitään? Pitäisikö esimerkiksi aikuista miestä kannustaa menemään kesäkurpitsa perseessä ja suukapula paikoillaan reisisaappaat jalassa töihin? Vai mitä ihmettä tässä nyt taas vaaditaan? Jos joku tietää, kertokaa. https://www.ts.fi/lukijoilta/6377094
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Post by: Caucasian on 03.08.2024, 11:08:10
Oikea ratkaisu olisi näille between mies/nainen tapauksille tietenkin oma kategoria, sarja. Onhan paralympialaisissak7n monia luokkia invaliditeetin asteen mukaan, jotta reilua.
Naisten sarja miesten sarja ja nonbinary/other sarja.
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Post by: Roope on 05.08.2024, 16:43:53
Jos joku luuli olympialaisten avajaisia satunnaiseksi ylilyönniksi, niin eipä ollut.

MTV: Kohutemppu taltioitui tv-kameroille olympialaisissa – pian edessä oli kotimatka (https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/kohutemppu-taltioitui-tv-kameroille-olympialaisissa-pian-edessa-oli-kotimatka/8984920) 5.8.2024

"Kohutemppu" oli näyttää sormilla ok-merkkiä.

Quote from: MTVHenkilö teki sunnuntain lähetyksessä kädellään eleen, joka menneisyydessä merkitsi sanaa okei. Viime vuosina sitä on kuitenkin käytetty useissa äärioikeistojärjestöissä ja se on yhdistetty valkoinen valta -liikkeeseen.

Kisajärjestäjä oli huomannut henkilön teon ja ottanut tältä pois akkreditoinnin sekä passittanut kotimatkalle. Myös kansainvälinen olympiakomitea KOK on kommentoinut tapausta.

– Henkilö on tunnistettu ja hän ei kuulu lähetyksiä tekevään yhtiöön. Hän on osa yhtä heidän alihankkijaa. Heille on ilmoitettu ja henkilön akkreditointi on vedetty takaisin, KOK kommentoi tiedotteessa.

Henkilön motiivi on toistaiseksi jäänyt epäselväksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 05.08.2024, 21:34:45
Quote from: Roope on 05.08.2024, 16:43:53
Jos joku luuli olympialaisten avajaisia satunnaiseksi ylilyönniksi, niin eipä ollut.

MTV: Kohutemppu taltioitui tv-kameroille olympialaisissa – pian edessä oli kotimatka (https://www.mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/kohutemppu-taltioitui-tv-kameroille-olympialaisissa-pian-edessa-oli-kotimatka/8984920) 5.8.2024

"Kohutemppu" oli näyttää sormilla ok-merkkiä.

Quote from: MTVHenkilö teki sunnuntain lähetyksessä kädellään eleen, joka menneisyydessä merkitsi sanaa okei. Viime vuosina sitä on kuitenkin käytetty useissa äärioikeistojärjestöissä ja se on yhdistetty valkoinen valta -liikkeeseen.

Kisajärjestäjä oli huomannut henkilön teon ja ottanut tältä pois akkreditoinnin sekä passittanut kotimatkalle. Myös kansainvälinen olympiakomitea KOK on kommentoinut tapausta.

– Henkilö on tunnistettu ja hän ei kuulu lähetyksiä tekevään yhtiöön. Hän on osa yhtä heidän alihankkijaa. Heille on ilmoitettu ja henkilön akkreditointi on vedetty takaisin, KOK kommentoi tiedotteessa.

Henkilön motiivi on toistaiseksi jäänyt epäselväksi.
no jos on tarpeeksi vilkas mielikuvitus, niin voihan sitä ymmärtää mitä tahansa miksi tahansa. Mä olen niin yksinkertainen, että eka oletus olisi, että yrittää sanoa, ok.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.08.2024, 22:03:19
Quote from: Roope on 05.08.2024, 16:43:53
Quote"Kohutemppu" oli näyttää sormilla ok-merkkiä.... Henkilön motiivi on toistaiseksi jäänyt epäselväksi.

Kannattaa varmaan muistaa, että mikä tahansa merkki voi tarkoittaa ihan mitä tahansa, mitä sen esittäjä tarkoittaa sen merkitsevän. Paras esimerkki lienee hakar1st1, joka voi tarkoittaa esim. joko hyvää onnea, tai sitten jotain ihan muuta.

Ihan vaan siis yleisenä havaintona.  :)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 05.08.2024, 22:16:00
Quote from: Siili on 05.08.2024, 22:12:52
no jos on tarpeeksi vilkas mielikuvitus, niin voihan sitä ymmärtää mitä tahansa miksi tahansa. Mä olen niin yksinkertainen, että eka oletus olisi, että yrittää sanoa, ok.

Etusormen ja peukalon puristuksella on lukuisia merkityksiä.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture)

Valkoisen ylivallan symbolina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol) se on varsin uusi ja jenkkilähtöinen:

QuoteTIn 2017, users on the message-board site 4chan[70][71][72] aimed to convince the media and other people that the OK gesture was being used as a white power symbol as a joke.[70][73] According to The Boston Globe, users on 4chan's /pol/ ("Politically Incorrect") board were instructed in February 2017 to "flood Twitter and other social media websites...claiming that the OK hand sign is a symbol of white supremacy" as part of a campaign dubbed "Operation O-KKK".[66]

The satirical association of the gesture with white supremacy derived from the assertion that the three upheld fingers resemble a 'W' and the circle made with the thumb and forefinger resemble the head of a 'P', together standing for "White Power."[74] While some members of the alt-right started using the symbol after the launch of the 4chan campaign, it initially remained ambiguous whether or not it was being used to communicate genuine adherence to white supremacy, or with deliberately ironic motives.[75]

Ääriajattelua kitkemään keskittyvä järjestö ADL (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League) on listannut eleen epäilyttäväksi, mutta suosittelee huolellisuutta sen tulkitsemisessa.

QuoteIn September 2019 the ADL added the OK gesture to its "Hate on Display" database.[76][77] The listing notes that while the usage of the OK hand gesture "in most contexts is entirely innocuous", some white supremacists have begun using the OK symbol "as a sincere expression of white supremacy", so care should be taken to evaluate the intent behind the gesture in context.[76]

Henkilökohtaisesti pidän tätä "kaustia" varsin turhana.

Juu, tiedän sen tarkoittavan muutakin ja yritin sanoa, että tuo on juurikin katsovan silmässä. Jos alkaa nähdä natseja ja natsimerkkejä joka puolella, maailma voi olla melko ahdistava paikka elää.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.08.2024, 22:24:23
Quote from: supersankaritar on 05.08.2024, 22:16:00... Jos alkaa nähdä natseja ja natsimerkkejä joka puolella, maailma voi olla melko ahdistava paikka elää.

Jeps. Ja vaikka se on hyvä nähdä ikävyyttä siellä missä sitä on, on myös hyvä, oman ahdistuksen minimoimiseksi ymmärtää, että maailmassa on sellainen ohjelmointivirhe, jota ei itse voi korjata.
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Post by: Miniluv on 05.08.2024, 22:25:11
QuoteÄäriajattelua kitkemään keskittyvä järjestö ADL on

QuoteAn overwhelming majority of editors involved in the debate about the ADL also voted to deem the organization unreliable on the topic of antisemitism, its core focus. A formal declaration on that count is expected next.

The decision about Israel-related citations, made last week, means that one of the most prominent and longstanding Jewish advocacy groups in the United States — and one historically seen as the leading U.S. authority on antisemitism — is now grouped together with the National Inquirer, Newsmax, and Occupy Democrats as a source of propaganda or misinformation in the eyes of the online encyclopedia.

https://www.jta.org/2024/06/18/united-states/adl-faces-wikipedia-ban-over-reliability-concerns-on-israel-antisemitism

Viihdyttävää kisailua vasemmiston hiekkalaatikoilla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 06.08.2024, 00:04:49
Suuryritykset ja suuromistajat pesevät menneisyyden törkytemppujaan laittamalla valkoihoiset länsimaalaiset kokemaan syyllisyyttä noiden riistojättien ja rikkaiden sukujen tekemistä tempuista. Konkreettisesti tänne pungetaan väkeä vieraista kulttuureista piinaamaan tavallisia kansalaisia.

Samalla suurriistofirmojen suurin uhka vähenee monella tapaa. A. Syytetään tavallisia ihmisiä rikoksista jotka tehty kauan sitten. On toki absurdia mutta toimii. Syntinen kun ei ala syyttelemään herkästi suuromistajia ja yrityksiä. Vaan syntinen käpertyy itseensä pohtimaan pahuuttaan, tai ulkoistaa kokemuksen yhteisestä pahuudesta lähimmäisiinsä ja alkaa toimia tavoilla jotka aiheuttaa omalle viiteryhmälle suurinta vahinkoa.

B. Suuromistajat esiintyvät hyväntekijöinä luoden immuniteettia kritiikkiä kohtaan. Sekä ovat kaapanneet sosialistit alamaisikseen hyökkäämään kansallisvaltioita ja niiden pystyssäpitäviä voimia, eli tavallista kansaa lyömään. Kätevästi pysyy ns. Omat kädet puhtaina, kun kiertoteiden kautta rahoittaa milloin mitäkin elokapinallisia.

Ratkaisu ongelmiin olisi kansallismielisillä hyökätä suurpääoman kimppuun. Laittaa ylikansalliset firmat ahtaalle. Jolloin sieltä tulisi halukkuutta neuvotella asian tilat uusiksi. Jos keskitytään ulkomaalaisiin, tai keskinäisiin kansallisiin vääntöihin hävitään peli ja taustalla hikiset suurpääoman kädet taputtaa onnesta.

Toinen ratkaisu on sisällissota jonka voittaja neuvottelee asiat jokatapauksessa uusiksi suurpääoman kanssa.

Ps. Uskomatonta miten sosialistit ovat siirtyneet kilveksi suojelemaan suurpääomaa ja riistofirmoja. Mutta se kertoo vain missä tässä ajassa mennään.
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Post by: Valli on 09.08.2024, 15:26:08
Go woke, go broke.

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Post by: Linkster on 10.08.2024, 10:34:12
Tuosta Harley Davidsonin woketuksesta käytiin aika kitkerää keskustelua monilla - myös eräällä minua koskettavalla-foorumilla USA:ssa.
Jochen Zeitz, entinen lenkkitossukauppias alkoi suunnilleen ensitöikseen pönkittää hiipuvaa moottoripyörien myyntimäärää yllättäen woke/DEI-hukutuksella.
Palaute palstoilla ja näköjään livenäkin suhtkoht kylmää.
H-D ollut jo liian pitkään tuollaisten positiivisten pellehahmojen leikkikenttä ja unohtanut tyystin sen asiakaskunnan, joka tuosta brändistä on tehnyt yhden maailman tunnetuimmista ja arvostetuimmista. Merkin uskolliset asiakkaat ovat hyvin usein kansallismielisiä, oikeudentajultaan suoraviivaisia tavallisia miehiä ja naisia. Itse elämänsä maksavia ja omilla bensoillaan ajelevia tyyppejä.
Luokattomien kiinapaitojen ja muun krääsän H-D brändäyksen sijaan voisivat alkaa suunnitella ja valmistaa sellaisia pyöriä, joita ihan oikeat asiakkaat haluavat ja vielä ostavatkin.
Tässä maailmanajassa esimerkiksi Indian voisi(ja lyökin) vahvasti vaihtoehtoa perinteisen H-D asiakkaan pähkäillessä sitä seuraavaa pyöräänsä.
Ainakin jos älyää olla sotkematta itseään wokepaskaan.
Miksi ihmeessä alkaa tuollainen sairas politikointi? Ihan sama tehdäänkö se ruisleipäpussin kyljessä meillä vai moottoripyöräbisneksessä USA.ssa?
Keskittykää omaan tekemiseen ja unohtakaa tuollainen typerä asiakkaille vittuilu!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.08.2024, 20:16:57
Woke-urheilua woke-olympialaisissa. Kaikki hyvä, kaunis ja taidokas pitää yrittää tyhota.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 10.08.2024, 21:07:07
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.08.2024, 20:16:57
Woke-urheilua woke-olympialaisissa. Kaiki hyvä, kaunis ja taidokas pitää yrittää tyhota.

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Mitenkähän tuohon lainauksen neekerivenkoiluun rinnastuu se perinteinen " Citius-Altius-Fortius"- asenne? :'( Olympiaurheilua??
Jotenkin nämä ennen niin hienot kansainyhteisön kisat alkavat olla kuin euroviisut kaikkine ulkourheilullisine wokeiluineen.
Ei tämmöistä enää kiitos.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.08.2024, 13:53:09
Kulkuset, kulkuset riemuin helkkäilee ...

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 11.08.2024, 13:56:21
Missä huivi?

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 10:27:58
Olen pohtinut, että mitkä ilmiöt ovat mahdollistaneet woke-ilmiön rantautumisen ja juurtumisen Suomeen. Suurin osa ideoista, joita Yhdysvaltojen sylttytehtaalla synnytetään, on yksinkertaisesti niin hulluja, että yksittäisinä ja muista ideoista eristettynä niillä olisi vain vähän mahdollisuuksia menestymiseen. Ja silti ne ovat juurtuneet, vähitellen, kasvaneet varjossa kunnes ovat näkyvästi kukassa. On tarvittu siis ideologinen kasvualusta, jotta huonolaatuisetkin siemenet saadaan itämään.

Yhden teorian historiallisin perustein tarjoaa kirjanen Varo vallankumousta, joka on kirjoitettu 1977. Kansalaisjärjestö Itsenäisyyden Puolesta ja Itsenäisyyden Puolesta - Helsinki r.y. järjestivät helmikuussa 1977 kolmen teemaillan sarjan, ja teemana oli varo vallankumousta. Pohjana tälle oli huoli siitä, kuinka Itä-Euroopan monipuoluemaat muuttuivat askel askeleelta kommunistisiksi diktatuureiksi. Tällöin ei tiedetty wokesta tietenkään mitään eikä internettiäkään vielä ollut, mutta vallankumouksien taustalla olevia ilmiöitä tarkastelemalla voi saada ymmärryksen siitä kuinka ideologista kasvualustaa voidaan vähitellen muokata, jotta seuraava sukupolvi olisi vastaanottavaisempi erilaisille radikaaleille ideoille.

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Hitaan vallankumouksen menetelmät

Nykyaikaisessa valtiossa tuskin voidaan ajatella vallankumouksen toteuttamista tässä [nopeassa] järjestyksessä. Äkillinen vallan kaappaaminen johtaisi nopeassa tahdissa valtakunnan kaaostilaan, sillä  nykyaikainen valtio on hyvin herkästi haavoittuva, monimutkainen koneisto kaikkine viestintä-, energiansiirto-, liikenne- ja jakeluverkkoineen.
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Näin ollen voidaan ottaa suoranaiseksi peruslähtökohdaksi se toteamus, että nykyaikaisessa valtiossa vallankumous on pitkälle valmisteltava vähittäisin muutoksin. Kumoukseen pyrkivien on ikään kuin rakennettava jo olemassa olevan järjestelmän sisään uudesta järjestelmästä niin paljon kuin mahdollista.
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Kun tarkastellaan vallankumousta käännetyssä järjestyksessä eli ns. hidasta vallankumousta, on ensiksi siis aihetta puhua puolueitten puhdistamista vastaavista toimista, sitten kasvatuksesta uuteen järjestelmään, edelleen tiedotuksen valtaamisesta ja informaatiosodan menetelmistä, talouselämän rakennemuutoksista, hallintojärjestelmän muutospyrkimyksistä ja lopuksi valtiosäännön muuttamisyrityksistä.

Tarkastellaan seuraavaksi joitakin yllä mainituista vallankumouksen keinoista.

Quote from: Varo vallankumoustaPuolueitten puhdistaminen
Meillä Suomessa on syytä tarkkaavaisina kysyä, eikö meillä suorastaan kaikkia puolueita ole pyritty sisäisesti puhdistamaan "sopimattomista aineksista". Eräät merkit viittaavat siihen, että käynnissä on ollut itse asiassa koko toisen maailmansodan jälkeisen ajan ja aina lisääntyvässä määrin ns. oikeistovoimien eliminoiminen suomalaisten puolueitten sisällä sekä vahvan yhtenäisen oikeiston synnyn estäminen puoluekentässä.

Tästä on jo runsaasti dokumenttiaineistoa olemassa esimerkiksi meikäläisten poliitikkojen muistelmateoksissa. Viime aikoina näitä mahdollisuuksia on helpottanut pitkälle menevä puoluevaltaisuus, joka on saanut vauhtia varsinkin kymmenen viime vuoden kuluessa. Puoluevaltaisuutta meillä on vauhdittanut erityisesti uusi puoluelaki ja varsinkin puoluetuki sekä ns. piilopuoluetuki eri muodoissaan. Uudet äänikynnyskaavailut voidaan liittää eräitten seuraamuksiensa puolesta näihin keinoihin. Puolueitten puhdistaminenhan ei kävisi päinsä, jos puhdistetut saattaisivat siirtyä uuteen puolueeseen.

Woken näkökulmasta, Suomen puolueet ovat pitkälti "puhdistettuja" persuja lukuun ottamatta. Woke-aiheet eivät muissa puolueissa tai kannattajissa herätä vastustusta, sen sijaan woke-aiheiden puolustajia löytyy eri puolueista ja äänestäjäkunnista paljonkin. Paine, jota nämä aktivistit kohdistavat puolueisiin, on suuri. Yksittäisiä woke-epäilijöitä varmaankin eri puolueista löytyy, mutta puoluetasolla linjat ovat kovin selvät.

Quote from: Varo vallankumoustaKasvatus uuteen järjestelmään
Johdannoksi kannattaa mainita pari entisen pitkäaikaisen opetusministeri Ulf Sundqvistin lausumaa. Keväällä 1975 hän sanoi televisiossa tähän tapaan: "Kun emme (nimittäin vasemmistolaiset) näytä perustuslakien uudistusten tietä pääsevän sosialismiin, niin me kasvatamme joukot siihen." Tampereen työväentalolla Sundqvist ilmoitti 20. päivänä toukokuuta 1975 sosiaalidemokraattien pyrkivän koulutuksen avulla muuttamaan yhteiskuntaa työväenliikkeen tavoitteiden mukaisesti ja mainitsi toisessa yhteydessä tutustuneensa Suomen Kommunistisen Puolueen viimeisimpään koulutuspolitiikkaan ja "yhtyvänsä hyvin pitkälle siihen". Kasvatus sosialismiin näyttääkin yhdistävän tämän hetken sosiaalidemokraattista puoluejohtoa ja kommunisteja suuressa määrin.

Solutustoimet 1970-luvun alussa, osittain jo viime vuosikymmenenkin puolella, suuntautuivat mielenkiintoisella tavalla erikoisesti kasvatukseen liittyviin yliopistollisiin laitoksiin, kuten psykologian ja kasvatustieteen laitoksiin, kouluhallitukseen ja opetusministeriön nuoreen virkamiehistöön. On kiinnitetty huomiota siihen, että Sundqvistin aikana nimitettiin erittäin suuri määrä nuoria varsin radikaaleja sosialisteja opetusministeriöön.

Paine on suuntautunut myös koulutelevisioon ja kouluradioon. Kannattaa mainita, että koulu-TV ja kouluradio ovat olleet hyvin suuressa määrin ns. PETO-työryhmän vaikutuksen alaisina, työryhmän, joka tuli kuuluisaksi Pirkkalan historianopetuskokeilun taustavoimana ja järjestäjänä. Tuon tapauksen yhteydessähän todettiin historian opetuksessa Pirkkalan peruskoulussa varsin pitkälle menevää kokeilua kasvatuksessa uuteen sosialistiseen järjestelmään.

Kokeiltiin nimenomaan sitä, missä määrin koulutyön puitteissa voidaan luoda pysyviä sosialistisia asenteita koululaisiiin. Tutkimusryhmän tavoitteena oli huolellisen mittauksen avulla seurata tämän aivopesun vaikutusta yksitoistavuotiaisiin koululaisiin. Vähemmän tunnettua on, että on olemassa paljon muitakin tämän suuntaisia peruskoulukokeilujen yhteydessä kouluun ujutettuja kokeiluja. Eräänä tällaisena mainitsen kasvatuksen kansainvälisyyteen. Sillä alueella on hyvin paljon mahdollisuuksia aivopesua muistuttavaan asennemuutokseen ja maailmankuvan muotoilemiseen sosialismille alttiiksi.
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Eräänä asennekasvatuksen uutuutena on syytä tuoda esiin ns. rauhankoulutus, josta kouluhallitus lähetti maaliskuun 11. päivänä 1974 päivätyn kirjeen. Sen aiheena on rauhankasvatuksen liittyvien kysymysten käsittely koulussa. [...] Kirjeen viimeisessä kappaleessa päästään loppuhuipennukseen: "Tosin Suomi ei ole osallistunut samalla tavoin kuin monet muut maat kolmannen maailman riistämiseen. On kuitenkin syytä muistaa, että Suomessakin hyödytään maailmankaupan rakenteesta ja että myös suomalaisia teollisuusyrityksiä on mukana riistämässä kolmannen maailman työläisiä." Näin siis kouluhallituksen ryhmäkirjeessä koulujen johtokunnille, vanhempainneuvostoille, kouluneuvostoille, rehtoreille ja johtajille."
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Tunkeutuminen korkeakouluihin on tunnettu ilmiö. Sehän oli meillä osa kansainvälistä marssia läpi laitosten. Tavallaan tuo vaihe on ohi, mutta siitä on jäänyt se pysyvä piirre, että tällä hetkellä voidaan puhua eräillä laitoksilla vallankumouksellisten kaadereitten loiskoulutuksesta.
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Valtion oppikirjamonopoli on vasemmiston lähitavoite tällä hetkellä Suomessa. Kouluradio ja koulutelevisio ovat jo pitkälle vasemmiston käsissä. Prosessi, joka tähtää kasvatuksen valjastamiseen sosialistisia tavoitteita palvelemaan, on siis ollut jo pitkään käynnissä ja saavuttanut kumouksellisten kannalta melkoisia voittojakin.

Kuulostaa varsin tutuilta aiheilta - esimerkiksi suomalaiset kolmannen maailman riistäjinä - woken näkökulmasta. Woken ei ole tarvinnut keksiä pyörää uudelleen, on vain vaihdettu laakereihin tuoreet öljyt. Pirkkalan tapauksesta on tainnut hommalla olla jo aiemmin puhetta. Voidaan lyhyesti todeta, että pitkä marssi läpi laitosten on ollut menestyksekäs. Joskin pääasia, eli oppimistulokset, ovat viime vuosina heikentyneet.

Quote from: Varo vallankumoustaTiedotuksen haltuunotto ja informaatiosodan menetelmät
On luonnollista, että huomattava ero tiedotusjärjestelmässä avoimen ja suljetun yhteiskunnan välillä on tarjonnut mahdollisuuden ideologiselle sodankäynnille. Erikoisen tärkeäksi on tullut käyttää avoimen yhteiskunnan ominaisuuksia hyväksi pyrkimällä soluttautumaan esimerkiksi televisioon ja radioon näiden laitosten uudelleenorganisoinnin yhteydessä. Meillä syntyi näin ns. "reporadion" kausi, joka jatkuu edelleenkin.

Otetta on yritetty saada myös lehdistöön, toimittajiin, jotka ovat tärkeissä asemissa tiedotuksen piirissä. Tällä en suinkaan tarkoita sitä, että toimittajat yleisesti olisivat jollakin lailla vallankumouksellisia - ei suinkaan, vaan he ovat joutuneet kylläkin erityiseen vaaravyöhykkeeseen. Samanlaisen kiinnostuksen kohteena ovat olleet esimerkiksi Teatterikoulu ja Teatterikorkeakoulu, nuori näyttelijäkunta, uudet teatterit, taiteilijajärjestöt ja taidekoulutus. [...] Tunnetut ilmiöt näillä aloilla osoittavat, että yhteiskuntajärjestelmän murtajien mielenkiinto on suuressa määrin juuri tiedotuksessa, erityisesti sellaisessa vaikuttavassa tiedotuksen muodossa kuin taiteessa.
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Lukuun sisältyy mielenkiintoisia yksityiskohtaisia kuvauksia kommunistisen liikkeen menettelytavoista tiedotuksen piirissä. Se oli taitavasti naamioitua. Tästä eräs näyte: "Se taikasana, jota Münzenberg käytti tehdäkseen myötäjuoksijoistaan tottelevia apureita,  oli solidaarisuus. Hän saarnasi solidaarisuutta mm. sorrettua ja alikehittynyttä siirtomaaväestöä kohtaan, solidaarisuutta fasismin uhreja kohtaan, solidaarisuutta tasavaltalaismielistä Espanjaa kohtaan, solidaarisuutta rauhan, aseidenriisunnan ja kollektiivisen turvallisuuden puolesta taistelevia kohtaa."
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Kasvatuksessa uuteen järjestelmään on taitavasti käytetty hyväksi nuorison keskuudessa syntyneitten spontaanien aatteiden kanavoimista. Itsestään syntyneet nuorisoprotestit on kanavoitu vähitellen vallankumousromantiikan kautta suorastaan yhteiskunnan vastaiseksi liikkeeksi. [...] Esimerkkeinä aatteiden kanavoimisesta yhteiskuntakritiikin tietä hiljalleen kommunistimyönteisyyteen voidaan mainita erityisesti viime vuosina jälleen korostuneesti esiin tullut rauhanaate. [...] Rauhanoffensiivi on eräs esimerkki siitä, miten taitavasti sinänsä hyviä aatteita kanavoidaan palvelemaan maailmanlaajuisen vallankumouksen tavoitteita.

Tiedotuskanavien valtaaminen sinänsä ei olisi niin suurimerkityksellistä, ellei siihen samalla liittyisi niiden tehokas järjestelmällinen hyväksikäyttö ns. informaatiosodan muodossa. "Jos kysyy mielessään, mitkä aseet valitsisi se, joka meidän aikanamme haluaisi tuhota tai saattaa toimintakyvyttömäksi vastustajansa vähimmin omin menetyksin, hätkähtää huomatessaan, että aseet olisivat ilmeisesti niitä propagandakeinoja ja järjestelmällistä vaikutusasemien valtaamista, jonka keskellä oikeastaan joka hetki elämme". Näin kirjoitin mainitussa artikkelissa.
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Informaatiosota ei tyydy pinnalliseen mielipidemuokkaukseen vaan pyrkii syvemmälle, suorastaan meidän ajattelumme välineitten, itsensä kielen muuttamiseen. Siinä pyritään mm. luomaan sanoille uusia käsitesisältöjä. Sellaisia sanoja, joiden merkitys on meillä miltei täysin onnistuttu muuttamaan esimerkiksi televisio-ohjelmien vaikutuksesta, ovat mm. demokratia, rauha, imperialismi, monopolit, edistys, fasismi, äärioikeisto jne. Näiden merkitys on niin täydellisesti muutettu, että niillä ei tunnu olevan enää mitään yhteyttä alkuperäisen täsmällisen kielenkäytön kanssa.
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Kumoukselliseen aivopesutekniikkaan kuuluu keskeisenä sanoman toisto ja siihen liittyen ankara dogmaattisuus. Juuri vasemmiston tiedotustoiminta on hyvin vaikuttavaa siitä syystä, että siinä todellakin eräänlaisen poliittisen liturgian tapaan toistellaan sanatarkasti määrättyjä pitkiä vuodatuksia. [...] Läntisessä järjestelmässä yhteiskuntaa säilyttävien ryhmien tiedotus sen sijaan on huomattavan heikkotehoista siitä syystä, että se noudattaa vapaaseen järjestelmään kuuluvaa journalismia, jolle on tunnusomaista vivahteikkuus, toiston välttäminen eikä suinkaan suosiminen. Uutuus ja vaihtelut ovat tärkeitä, jolloin seurauksena on, että tiedotus on usein myös kovin ristiriitaista. Asioita, joiden pitäisi syvään juurtuneina olla jonkinlaisena suojana ihmisille sosialistista liturgiaa vastaan, ei omaksuta tästä syystä  hevillä. Tämä on vakava kysymys. Länsimainen tiedotus on tarkoitettu ensisijaisesti välittämään tietoa eikä vaikuttamaan ihmisten asenteisiin. Tässä kohdassa on siis aukko puolustuksessa.

Muistan joskus lukeneeni, että kulttuurimarxismi on äärioikeiston salaliittoteoria. Mutta peilaten nykytilannetta yllä mainittuihin ilmiöihin, se on lähinnä näkökulmakysymys. Voisi oikeastaan sanoa, että koska pitkä marssi on ollut niin menestyksekäs ja läpitunkeva useimmilla sektoreilla, se ei enää näyttäydy vallankumouksellisena vaan yksinkertaisesti neutraalina, status quona, joka on silkalla massallaan olemassa suhtautui siihen miten hyvänsä. On kuitenkin tärkeä huomata, että sen peilimäistä inhaa pintaa vasten käyvät näyttäytyvät itse vallankumouksellisina. Mieleen tulee esimerkiksi ajankohtainen kamppailu Ylen hegemoniaa vastaan, joka on vielä kesken. Ja muitakin esimerkkejä kyllä löytyy.

Quote from: Varo vallankumoustaViipaloimistaktiikka
Hitaan vallankumouksen menetelmiin liittyvänä on syytä vielä erikseen tarkastella ns. viipaloimistaktiikkaa. Siinä käytetään hyväksi vapaata avointa yhteiskuntaa, jossa vallitsee vapaa mielipiteen muodostus, toimimalla niin, että luontainen mielipiteitten eroavuus kehitellään tietynlaiseksi hajottamistendenssiksi. Vanha roomalainen "divide et empera" -periaate toteutetaan uudessa muodossa näin. Poliittinen kenttä jaetaan viipaleisiin ja näihin viipaleisiin nähden esitetään aina jyrkempiä muutosvaatimuksia. Siten kunkin viipaleen sisässä suoritetaan vähittäinen siirto vasemmalle. Tämä tapahtuu meillä tavallisesti siten, että pyritään saamaan jalansijaa erikoisesti nuorisojärjestöissä, joissa vedotaan "edistyksellisyyteen" ja halutaan asettua "kangistunutta" vanhempaa polvea vastaan.

Esimerkiksi puoluejärjestössä saadaan näin menetellen nuorison toimiessa "edelläkävijänä" huomattava siirtymä kokonaisuudessaan vasemmalle. Puoluejohdon on yleensä asemansa säilyttääkseen pysyttäydyttävä jollakin tavalla "keskellä" puoluekentässä ja näin ollen nuorison radikalisoituminen vetää puoluejohtoa auttamattomasti mukanaan. Seurauksena tästä viipaletaktiikasta on helposti puolueen perinteellisen suuntauksen irtaantuminen kokonaan, mikä taas tuottaa sellaista hajanaisuutta, joka sopii sosialismia ajavien voimien kaavailuihin hyvin.

Hajottamispyrkimys ei kohdistu ainoastaan organisaatioihin vaan myös aatteiden ja arvojen maailmaan. Yhtenä tavoitteena on kansallisen identiteetin hävittäminen, kansaa yhdistävien perinteiden saattaminen "taantumuksellisuutena" epäilyttävään valoon ja tulkitseminen summamutikassa "fasismiksi" jne. Karkeimpia esimerkkejä kansallisen perinteen hävittämispyrkimyksistä on ajatus, että kansan tulisi viettää omaa itsenäisyyspäiväänsä sekoitettuna toisen kansan jonkin määräpäivän viettoon."

Woke-ideologia, joka jopa yrittää esittää ettei sitä edes oikeasti ole olemassa, on tästä hajottamisesta erinomainen esimerkki. Sillä ei ole mitään muuta tarjottavaa kuin hajotus, lahotus ja kadotus. Huomatkaa esitetty huoli itsenäisyyspäivän viettoon liittyen; luultavasti tämän päivän esimerkit saisivat 70-luvun kirjoittajan voimaan fyysisesti pahoin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 12.08.2024, 18:15:48
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html)
Elias Lönnrot -veistos töhrittiin Helsingissä
Veistoksen jalustaan on kirjoitettu sana "kolonialisti".

Helppo taas kuvitella, mitä töhrijät ovat opiskelleet historiaa somesta, mutta eivät historian akateemisesta tutkimuksesta... :P
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 12.08.2024, 19:16:13
Toisaalta kolonialismi Afrikassa oli edistyksen aikaa. Tuli modernit jutut, kuten rautateitä, sähköjä, modernia lääketiedettä ( joka valitettavasti mahdollisti väestöräjähdyksen), kouluja jne. No sivistystä. Ilman länttä ja kolonialismia Saharan eteläpuolella elettäisiin vielä keskiaikaa.
Siirtomaiden itsenäistymisen jälkeen kehitys on monissa maissa ollut tuskallisen hidasta.
Oikeastaan Afrikan pitäisi kiittää Eurooppaa.
Belgian Kongonkin vääryyksiä on liioiteltu siinä mielessä, että koski vain osaa Kongon asukkaista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 12.08.2024, 20:17:36
Quote from: DuPont on 12.08.2024, 18:15:48
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html)
Elias Lönnrot -veistos töhrittiin Helsingissä
Veistoksen jalustaan on kirjoitettu sana "kolonialisti".

Helppo taas kuvitella, mitä töhrijät ovat opiskelleet historiaa somesta, mutta eivät historian akateemisesta tutkimuksesta... :P

Kirjoittaja vaikuttaa pikemminkin opiskelevan Aalto yliopistossa sosiaalitieteitä, naistutkimusta.... Vain sieltä voi saada riittävät valmiudet, koska töherrys oli kirjoitettu ilman virheitä!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 21:28:50
Quote from: DuPont on 12.08.2024, 18:15:48
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html)
Elias Lönnrot -veistos töhrittiin Helsingissä
Veistoksen jalustaan on kirjoitettu sana "kolonialisti".

Helppo taas kuvitella, mitä töhrijät ovat opiskelleet historiaa somesta, mutta eivät historian akateemisesta tutkimuksesta... :P

Minä en osaa kyllä kuvitella, millä ajatusketjulla päästään siihen, että Elias Lönnrot olisi ollut kolonialisti. Osaako joku selittää?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: SatuSetä on 12.08.2024, 21:44:18
Quote from: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 21:28:50
Quote from: DuPont on 12.08.2024, 18:15:48
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html)
Elias Lönnrot -veistos töhrittiin Helsingissä
Veistoksen jalustaan on kirjoitettu sana "kolonialisti".

Helppo taas kuvitella, mitä töhrijät ovat opiskelleet historiaa somesta, mutta eivät historian akateemisesta tutkimuksesta... :P

Minä en osaa kyllä kuvitella, millä ajatusketjulla päästään siihen, että Elias Lönnrot olisi ollut kolonialisti. Osaako joku selittää?

Tietenkin kävi karjalaisilta varastamassa runot suomalaisille! (Tämä ei ole vitsi, tähän se ajatus perustuu.)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.08.2024, 21:44:21
Quote from: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 21:28:50
Minä en osaa kyllä kuvitella, millä ajatusketjulla päästään siihen, että Elias Lönnrot olisi ollut kolonialisti. Osaako joku selittää?

Ryhmäidentiteetillä.

Valkoinen mies paha kolonialisti > Elias Lönnrot valkoinen mies > Elias Lönnrot paha kolonialisti.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 12.08.2024, 21:47:42
Elias Lönnrot kolonisoi suomalaisten mieliä esittämällä suomalaiset historialtaan arvokkaiksi. Tästä seurasi kansallisvaltio ja kaikille valtava elintason nousu. Sosialistien mielessä suomalaisten mielet on täytettävä sosialismilla, josta seuraa häpeä ja arvottomuus. Sekös sosialistia kiukuttaa, kun ihmiset ovat itsetuntoisia ja rakentavat yhdessä paremman maan itselleen ja lapsilleen. Sosialistin voimavara ja ydin on katkeruus ja siitä kumpuava viha. Elias oli ja on edelleen uhka sosialismille. Kaikki mikä luo kurjuutta ja murtaa mielet on sosialistin tavoite.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 12.08.2024, 22:30:54
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.08.2024, 21:44:21
Quote from: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 21:28:50
Minä en osaa kyllä kuvitella, millä ajatusketjulla päästään siihen, että Elias Lönnrot olisi ollut kolonialisti. Osaako joku selittää?

Ryhmäidentiteetillä.

Valkoinen mies paha kolonialisti > Elias Lönnrot valkoinen mies > Elias Lönnrot paha kolonialisti.

Sillä on patsas, joten triplapluspaha kolonialisti.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 22:42:00
Kiitos selityksistä. En ole varma, ymmärsinkö täysin, mutta teen logiikkaharjoituksen ja vilkaisen kirjahyllyyni.

Juhla-Kalevala ja Akseli Gallen-Kallelan Kalevala-taide. Kolonialismia siis. Jo kirjan iso koko viittaa siihen, että on omittu kulttuurisesti isosti. Alan epäillä, että kirjasta on tehty tahallaan niin painava, jotta se muistuttaisi valkoisen miehen taakasta.

Janne Gallen-Kallela-Sirén: Minä Palaan jalanjäljilleni. Akseli Gallen-Kallelan elämä ja taide. Gallen-Kallela tunnetaan erityisesti Kalevala-taiteestaan, Cum hoc ergo propter hoc: myös Akseli oli kolonialisti. Olisimme säästyneet paljolta, jos Akselin äiti olisi toiminut oikein ja estänyt pojaltaan Kalevalan lukemisen: "Uhkasin kirjan häneltä riistää mutta kun näin hänen sanomattoman kiintymyksensä, en hennonut uhkaustani toteuttaa."

Matti Klinge: Poliittinen Runeberg. Jo takakannessa todetaan, että suomalaisen identiteetin luominen oli poliittinen teko. Siis kolonialismia. Runeberg kuului siihen piiriin, joka vuonna 1831 perusti Suomalaisen Kirjallisuuden Seuran. Kansallisaatetta pahimmillaan.

Taidan lopettaa tähän. Päätä särkee.



Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.08.2024, 22:53:03
Otetaans vielä tämä:

Guilty by association = Rotusyyllisyys

- Rikostoveruus identiteetin kautta
- Syyllisyys etnisyyden kautta
- Kytkös valkoisen ylivallan kautta
- Välillinen syyllisyys on syyllisyyttä yhtä kaikki
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: l'uomo normale on 12.08.2024, 23:06:08
Quote from: Sakari on 12.08.2024, 21:47:42
Elias Lönnrot kolonisoi suomalaisten mieliä esittämällä suomalaiset historialtaan arvokkaiksi. Tästä seurasi kansallisvaltio ja kaikille valtava elintason nousu. Sosialistien mielessä suomalaisten mielet on täytettävä sosialismilla, josta seuraa häpeä ja arvottomuus. Sekös sosialistia kiukuttaa, kun ihmiset ovat itsetuntoisia ja rakentavat yhdessä paremman maan itselleen ja lapsilleen. Sosialistin voimavara ja ydin on katkeruus ja siitä kumpuava viha. Elias oli ja on edelleen uhka sosialismille. Kaikki mikä luo kurjuutta ja murtaa mielet on sosialistin tavoite.

Sattumalta juuri äskettäin Venäjällä on julistettu Suomen Itä-Karjalan miehityksen aikaiset siirtoleirit kansanmurhaksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 12.08.2024, 23:20:58
Quote from: Miniluv on 12.08.2024, 22:30:54
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.08.2024, 21:44:21
Quote from: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 21:28:50
Minä en osaa kyllä kuvitella, millä ajatusketjulla päästään siihen, että Elias Lönnrot olisi ollut kolonialisti. Osaako joku selittää?

Ryhmäidentiteetillä.

Valkoinen mies paha kolonialisti > Elias Lönnrot valkoinen mies > Elias Lönnrot paha kolonialisti.

Sillä on patsas, joten triplapluspaha kolonialisti.
Paitsi jos patsas esittää sosialistia. Silloin patsas esittää pyhää tietäjää ja sankaria.  :D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 13.08.2024, 08:22:59
Quote from: Äpyli on 12.08.2024, 21:28:50
Quote from: DuPont on 12.08.2024, 18:15:48
https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010626172.html)
Elias Lönnrot -veistos töhrittiin Helsingissä
Veistoksen jalustaan on kirjoitettu sana "kolonialisti".

Helppo taas kuvitella, mitä töhrijät ovat opiskelleet historiaa somesta, mutta eivät historian akateemisesta tutkimuksesta... :P

Minä en osaa kyllä kuvitella, millä ajatusketjulla päästään siihen, että Elias Lönnrot olisi ollut kolonialisti. Osaako joku selittää?

Jos maalari erehtyi patsaasta. Luuli Lönnrotia Mannerhemiksi tai jotain. Tosin Mannerheimkään ei ollut kolonialisti, mutta vasemmiston vihaama joka tapauksessa.

Ehkä Lönnrotin synti on suomalaisen identiteetin puolesta tehty työ.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.08.2024, 09:06:06
Valkoisen miehen synnit ja syyllisyydet

1. Syntymissyyllisyys
2. Siittämissyyllisyys
3. Rotusyyllisyys
4. Etnisyyssyyllisyys
5. Indentiteettisyyllisyys
6. Valkoisuussyyllisyys
7. Heterosyyllisyys
8. Jumalauskosyyllisyys
9. Isänmaasyyllisyys
10. Normiperhesyyllisyys
11. Mielipidesyyllisyys
12. Mielenosoitussyyllisyys
13. Barrikaadisyyllisyys
14. Sotasyyllisyys
15. Perisynti

Mitäs vielä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 13.08.2024, 18:58:35
16. Syyllisyydenkiistämissyyllisyys
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Post by: Aelae on 13.08.2024, 21:45:17
Selväähän on, että tässä on kyse siitä, että putinistit rakentelevat mielesssään ja ryssämedialle mielikuvia siitä, miten Suomi ei ansaitse edes Karjalan jäljellä olevia osia. Melko naurettavaa änkyttää tähän oikeisto-vasemmisto-lätinää ja kulttuurimarxismia, kun ainoa uhkakuva on idässä. Oliko palstan nimi sokeaforum?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Shemeikka on 15.08.2024, 14:20:10
Näyttelijä Vince Vaughn oli ystävällinen väärälle miehelle...

QuoteHollywood: Näyttelijä Vince Vaughn kohun keskellä- Mel Gibsonin juutalaiskommentit syynä

Tunnettu amerikkalainen näyttelijä Vince Vaughn sai oman tähtensä Hollywood Boulevard- kadulle. Saavutus on merkkipaalu 54- vuotiaan näyttelijän uralla, mutta katuun laitetun laatan paljastustilaisuus on saanut osan ihmisistä pillastumaan.

Vaughn kuvattiin oman tähtensä paljastusjuhlallisuuksissa puhumassa ystävälliseen sävyyn näyttelijä ja ohjaaja Mel Gibsonin kanssa. Miehet ovat näytelleet yhdessä elokuvassa Dragged Across Concrete, vuonna 2018.

Vaughnin Gibsonille osoittama ystävällisyys on saanut aikaan tyrmistystä, ja Vaughnia on sanottu "ällöttäväksi".  Hänen juuri saamansa Hollywood Walk of Fame- tähti on haluttu canceloida.

Gibson on vuodesta 2006 lähtien ollut paaria Hollywoodin nimekkäitten piireissä. Mad Max- ja Tappava ase- elokuvista tuttu Mel Gibson joutui poliisin pidättämäksi rattijuopumuksesta epäiltynä, ja tiettävästi sanoi poliiseille:

"V-tun juutalaiset, juutalaiset ovat vastuussa kaikista sodista maailmassa".

Hollywoodin elokuvapiireissä juutalaiset ovat suuressa roolissa ohjaajina ja tuottajina, ja Gibsonin kommentit tekivät hänestä Hollywoodin hylkiön.

Ensimmäisen Tappava ase- elokuvan käsikirjoittanut Shane Black sanoi vuonna 2016, Mel Gibsonin joutuneen "showbisneksen mustalle listalle" humalaisen juutalaislausuntonsa vuoksi.

Mel Gibson ei ole antanut Hollywood-piirien syrjinnän estää uraansa, vaan hän jatkanut elokuvien tekemistä.

Lähde Episodi- lehti

https://www.kansalainen.fi/hollywood-nayttelija-vince-vaughn-kohun-keskella-mel-gibsonin-juutalaiskommentit-syyna/ (https://www.kansalainen.fi/hollywood-nayttelija-vince-vaughn-kohun-keskella-mel-gibsonin-juutalaiskommentit-syyna/)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: HDRisto on 15.08.2024, 16:33:17
Hyvin kait Gibson pärjännyt ilman juutalaisiakin?. Tai ilman ja ilman, kyllä Hollywoodissa rahan päälle ymmärretään vaikka kolarin jälkeen kännissä olisikin jotain hourinut.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 15.08.2024, 21:18:50
Minä en ymmärrä, miksi noille woke ihmisille on annettu valtaa hyökätä muiden ihmisten kimppuun, kun joku uskaltaa sanoa "väärän" mielipiteensä julkisuuteen?

Uskon että woke porukkaa, ei ole niin paljon, kuin he antavat ymmärtää jos ihmiset ja firmat eivät reagoisi woke porukan vaatimuksiin lainkaan, silloin wokella ei olisi mitään valtaa ja ihmiset voivat tuoda esille rehellisesti oman mielipiteensä, ilman maalittamisen pelkoa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 15.08.2024, 21:26:58
Se kännissä ajaminen ei vissiin olisi ollut mikään vakava rike jonka johdosta olisi tullut hyljityksi mutta ne puheet oli taas asia erikseen. Känni hälvenee mutta sanottua ei saa sanomattomaksi koskaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 15.08.2024, 23:29:44
Huvittavaa tässä on se, ettei Hollywoodin ja muun vasemmiston kanta juutalaisiin ole täysin selvä millään hetkellä. Se on sellainen Schrödingerin mielipide, puolesta ja vastaan samaan aikaan. :P
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: l'uomo normale on 16.08.2024, 06:28:17
Quote from: l'uomo normale on 12.08.2024, 23:06:08
Quote from: Sakari on 12.08.2024, 21:47:42
Elias Lönnrot kolonisoi suomalaisten mieliä esittämällä suomalaiset historialtaan arvokkaiksi. Tästä seurasi kansallisvaltio ja kaikille valtava elintason nousu. Sosialistien mielessä suomalaisten mielet on täytettävä sosialismilla, josta seuraa häpeä ja arvottomuus. Sekös sosialistia kiukuttaa, kun ihmiset ovat itsetuntoisia ja rakentavat yhdessä paremman maan itselleen ja lapsilleen. Sosialistin voimavara ja ydin on katkeruus ja siitä kumpuava viha. Elias oli ja on edelleen uhka sosialismille. Kaikki mikä luo kurjuutta ja murtaa mielet on sosialistin tavoite.

Sattumalta juuri äskettäin Venäjällä on julistettu Suomen Itä-Karjalan miehityksen aikaiset siirtoleirit kansanmurhaksi.

QuoteKuvanveistäjä Emil Wikströmin Elias Lönnrotia, Väinämöistä ja Kantelettaren impeä esittävä veistos paljastettiin vuonna 1902. KUVA: RONI REKOMAA / LEHTIKUVA


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STT
15.8. 22:34
Elias Lönnrot -patsaan töhri Helsingissä karjalaisten aktivistien antifasistinen Rushkiemustu-kollektiivi, uutisoi Helsingin Sanomat torstaina. Ryhmän nimi viittaa Karjalan väreihin: punaiseen ja mustaan.

HS oli yhteydessä kollektiivin tämän Instagram-tilillä sovelluksen viestipalvelun kautta. Kollektiivi vastasi HS:lle olevansa tahrimisen taustalla.

Kampissa sijaitseva veistos töhrittiin maanantai-iltana punaisella aineella. Lisäksi patsaaseen kirjoitettiin punaisella "kolonialisti"

Rushkiemustu kertoi HS:lle, että ryhmä halusi patsaan töhrimisellä herättää julkista keskustelua siitä, keiden kustannuksella Kalevalaa on käytetty "suomalaisen kulttuurin homogeenisena ymmärtävän kansallisaatteen luomisessa".

Kolonialisti-tekstillä kollektiivi sanoo viittaavansa esimerkiksi kulttuuriseen omimiseen.

Kalevalan kokoajana tunnettu Lönnrot kokosi teoksen tallentamansa runomateriaalin pohjalta. Suomalaisen Kirjallisuuden Seuran akatemiatutkija Kati Kallio kirjoittaa blogitekstissään, että eniten runoja hän tallensi varsinaiskarjalan sekä Suomen itä- ja kaakkoismurteiden puhuma-alueilta.[...]

https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010634074.html

Jo 30-luvulla, kun Stalin alkoi vainota suomalaisia Karjalasssa, kehitettiin kyrlllisin kirjaimin kirjoitettu karjalan kirjakieli ja Karjalan tasavallassa julkaistuihin suomenkielisiin teksteihn lisättiin venäjän kielestä muokattuja sanoja. Nämä venäläistämishankkeet päätyivät talvisotaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 16.08.2024, 08:59:26
Quote
Elias Lönnrot -patsaan töhri Helsingissä karjalaisten aktivistien antifasistinen Rushkiemustu-kollektiivi, uutisoi Helsingin Sanomat torstaina. Ryhmän nimi viittaa Karjalan väreihin: punaiseen ja mustaan.

Rushkiemustu kertoi HS:lle, että ryhmä halusi patsaan töhrimisellä herättää julkista keskustelua siitä, keiden kustannuksella Kalevalaa on käytetty "suomalaisen kulttuurin homogeenisena ymmärtävän kansallisaatteen luomisessa".

Kolonialisti-tekstillä kollektiivi sanoo viittaavansa esimerkiksi kulttuuriseen omimiseen.

"(Kalevala) on toimittanut tärkeää virkaa karelianistisessa liikkeessä ja Suur-Suomi-ihanteen synnyssä, jonka maailmankatsomuksessa karjalaisuus nähdään menneisyyteen jääneenä, alikehittyneenä suomalaisuutena, eikä omana, rikkaana ja elinvoimaisena kulttuurinaan", kollektiivi sanoo.

Tavoitteekseen kollektiivi kertoo muun muassa karjalaisille tärkeiden teemojen ja ongelmien nostamisen esille sekä "muiden poikkileikkaavien vähemmistöjen" näkökulmien tuomisen vasemmistolaiseen liikehdintään.

Vasemmistopitoisille aktivismiliikkeille on tyypillistä se, että ne nostavat kyllä ahkerasti ongelmiksi kokemiaan ilmiöitä esille, mutta sen sijaan että tekisivät itse jotakin rakentavaa ongelmien suhteen, he sysäävät vastuun ja ongelmien ratkaisun muiden kontolle. Ongelmia, jotka ovat tekemällä tehtyjä ja joiden ongelmallisuutta on vaikea muiden nähdä. Kollektiivi voi kyllä nostaa karjalaisille tärkeitä teemoja ihan niin paljon esille kuin haluaa, mutta sen voi tehdä viisaamminkin kuin patsaan töhrimällä ja leimaamalla kansallisen perinnön negatiiviseksi. Onko taas kyse pohjimmiltaan kateudesta, "niillä on jotakin mitä meillä ei ole"? Harva suomalainen vastustaisi sitä ajatusta, että joku karjalalaisaktiivi toistaisi Lönnrotin ponnistelut ja tuottaisi Kalevala vol 2:n, ja se voisi olla niin vapaa kansallisaatteesta kuin tekijä itse haluaisi. Mutta ei, vasemmistolle tyypillisesti pitää vain olla purkamassa rakenteita sen sijaan että luotaisiin itse jotakin merkittävää. On mustavalkoista ja historiallisen suhteellisuudentajun puutetta osoittavaa ajattelua väittää Lönnrotia kolonialistiksi, ellei sitten tulkitse kolonialismin käsitettä varsin luovalla tavalla.

Keskustelu siitä, "keiden kustannuksella Kalevalaa on käytetty suomalaisen kulttuurin homogeenisena ymmärtävän kansallisaatteen luomisessa", ei johda mihinkään muuhun kuin loputtomaan syyttelyn ja uhriutumisen kehään. Koko kulttuurisen omimisen diskurssi on aivan älytön, samoin kuin väite siitä, että "kolonialistiset ajattelutavat koskevat myös aineetonta perintöä". Sen sijaan, että aineeton perintö luettaisiin ihmiskunnan hyväksi, sekin pitää jakaa käsittämättömillä säännöillä osiin ja alkaa kinata siitä, mikä kuuluu kenellekin ja kenellä on siihen oikeus. Tämä on loputon suo, sillä on ensinnäkin mahdotonta pysyä perässä kuvitelluista omistajuussuhteista, ja toiseksi estämällä ideoiden vapaan liikkumisen ja hyödyntämisen aiheutetaan vain hallaa kehitykselle.

Jos Lönnrot ei olisi kerännyt karjalan suullista runoperintöä, niin kuinkahan olisi runoille mahtanut käydä? Olisiko kollektiivilla edes mitään runoteosta, jota kritisoida. Osoittaa myös historiantajuttomuutta leimata kansallismielisyys lähinnä ikävänä ilmiönä. Miksi ihminen voi tuntea ylpeyttä karjalalaisena muttei kansallisaatteellisena? On niin helppoa ja vaivatonta kritisoida edesmenneiden sukupolvien tekoja ja tekemättä jättämisiä sen sijaan, että pyrkisi oppimaan historiasta.

Ja miksi ylipäätään karjalaisille pitäisi olla tärkeää "muiden poikkileikkaavien vähemmistöjen" näkökulmien tuominen vasemmistoon? Tämä woke on niin älytöntä, että kaikkea pitää edistää kollektiivisesti, eikä yksittäisinä asioina. Onko ajatuksena kenties, että kaikki vähemmistöt yhdessä sortoa vastaan. Woke-diskurssi myrkyttää yhteisen kaivon, varmistaa myrkyn leviämisen hämmentämällä ylikokoisella kauhallaan muttei tarjoa minkäänlaista ratkaisua. Vasemmistossa ei muutenkaan ole pulaa intersektionaalisesta feminismistä. Kollektiivi voisi nyt palata ajatuspajaansa ja miettiä niin kauan, että vapautuu tällaisista kahleista, jotka eivät tuo karjalalaisille mitään hyvää. Mitäköhän olisivat Lönnrotin aikaiset karjalalaiset tuumanneet intersektionaalisuudesta.

Terveisin, karjalalaisia sukujuuria omaava äpyli.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 16.08.2024, 09:57:38
Quote from: pugisti on 16.08.2024, 09:32:43
Onlinerit on pahasta, mutta pakko todeta, hyvin sanottu. Vastaava teksti pienin muutoksin pätee moneen muuhunkin asiaan.

Näin on. Yhteistä näille on woke/intersektionaalinen feminismi ja sen muunnokset, ja toki vasemmistolaisliikkeillä on oma aatteellinen perintönsä mukana myös. Liikkeet vain kuorruttavat ideologisen pohjansa hieman eri tavoin. Minua kuitenkin jaksaa naurattaa se kaava, että liike tekee jotakin tyhmää ja toteaa sitten: "tarkoitus on herättää keskustelua". Vulgaaria vertausta käyttäen, jos käyn yöaikaan paskantamassa naapurin pihamaalle pyytämättä, niin se varmasti herättää keskustelua, mutta keskustelu ei varmaan edistä laajemmin mitään hyvää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 16.08.2024, 11:00:21
Lisään sen verran vielä, että onko ryssä Rushkiemustu-kollektiivin takana, voi olla että on, voi olla että ei. Blogin sisältö ja ajoitus antaa kyllä vahvoja viitteitä tähänkin suuntaan. Noblog-alusta, jossa kollektiivin blogi on, on täynnä aktivismi- ja vasemmisto-huttua. Alusta on sivujen mukaan antikapitalismista kiinnostuneiden yksilöiden ja kollektiivien alunperin perustama ja tarjoaa "työkaluja digitaaliseen itsepuolustukseen, vastaten aktivistien ja muiden yksilöiden vapaan kommunikoinnin tarpeeseen". Joka tapauksessa, kannattanee jättää tämä pökäle muhimaan omassa liemessään.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.08.2024, 16:27:04
Melko epäilyttävä eliitin edustaja ja "tiedemies".

[tweet]1824187347937923466[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: -PPT- on 16.08.2024, 17:10:05
Tuosta Lönnrotin patsaan töhrijäporukasta ja heidän motiiveistaan tulee mieleen Studio Julmahuvin sketsit.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 16.08.2024, 17:11:04
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.08.2024, 16:27:04
Melko epäilyttävä eliitin edustaja ja "tiedemies".

Ehkä video on kuvattu päivänä, kun Tyson tunsi olevansa 20% tiedemies?  ;D (Mutta herää kysymys, minkälainen on koko pätkä, kun tuossa oli vain lyhyt klippi. En viitsi tarkistaa, kun ei nämä secks-identiteetit oikein jaksa kiinnostaa.)



Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 16.08.2024, 17:58:39
Quote from: -PPT- on 16.08.2024, 17:10:05
Tuosta Lönnrotin patsaan töhrijäporukasta ja heidän motiiveistaan tulee mieleen Studio Julmahuvin sketsit.

Minulle tulee taas wannabe saamelaislarppaajat.

Ruskiemustut koittavat esittää jotain karjalan alkuperäiskansaa, joka on riistetty ja raiskattu, koska heidän runoudestaan on tehty kansalliseepos kantasuomalaisille.

Haistakaa v.

Kohta kalevalakin tulkitaan kulttuuriseksi omimiseksi, karjalan murre kielletään, karjalaisten kansallispukujen käyttö kielletään muilta kuin etnisesti karjalaisilta ja perustetaan karjalaiskäräjät.
Nämä ruskiemustut ovat oman elämänsä emminuorgameja. Jotain vassarihihhuleita, joiden suvussa on joku heimopäällikkö Aunuksesta. Osaamatta karjalan kiältä sanoja "ruskie mustu" enempää, he vaativat kohta omakseen kaikkea karjalan kulttuuriperimää.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 17.08.2024, 01:39:35
Siis koko ajan tulee aina isompi ja isompi ryhmä vinkumaan riistoa.

No mennäänkö me kantasuomalaiset Ruotsiin joukolla töhrimään ja vinkumaan vuosisataisesta riistosta?

Kyllä woke on tyhmä aate.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: HDRisto on 17.08.2024, 09:22:16
"ruskie mustut" voivatkin sitten lähteä ja muuttaa esi-isiensä maille, Venäjän puolelle Karjalaan ja jäädä sinne ylläpitämään kulttuuriaan. Ei tällä puolella rajaa ole mikään pakko olla, toistaiseksi. (Se poismuuttovero varmaan on jäissä mutta tulee kun kantikset alkavat muuttaa pois).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 17.08.2024, 09:49:42
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 16.08.2024, 16:27:04
Melko epäilyttävä eliitin edustaja ja "tiedemies".

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Onneksi Suomessa on mokoma woketus saanut huutia. Kokoomuksen ansiosta sukupuoltaan voi vaihtaa vain kerran vuodessa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 17.08.2024, 12:15:41
Siis ei hyvää päivää. "Tänään tunnen itseni tytöksi, lähdenpä nyrkkeilemään muiden tyttöjen kanssa".

Aika paksua settiä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 18.08.2024, 20:13:07
QuoteKun keskustelu halvaantuu

Joillekin keskustelijoille se näyttää olevan koko sotkemisen tarkoitus, kirjoittaa mediatutkija Anu Koivunen.
Suomen Kuvalehti (https://suomenkuvalehti.fi/mielipide/monimuotoisuus-onkin-rajoittamista-kun-kasitteet-sotketaan-asiallinen-keskustelu-halvaantuu/?shared=1297648-0d1e22fc-500) 5.8.2024  (maksumuuri)

Näiden röyhkeydellä ei ole mitään rajaa, kun he syyttävät muita siitä, mitä itse tekevät.

Quote from: Anu KoivunenKesän jatkunut kiistely Ylen monimuotoisuuskoulutuksesta on havainnollinen esimerkki siitä peilimaailman logiikasta, jota kanadalainen kirjailija Naomi Klein käsittelee uusimmassa teoksessaan Doppelganger. Suomeksi kirja ilmestyi tänä vuonna nimellä Kaksoisolento (suom. Silja-Maaria Aronpuro, Into).

Kleinin mukaan julkinen keskustelu halvaantuu, "kun tärkeitä ajatuksia ja käsitteitä vääristellään, kun älyttömyys tuntuu ottavan vallan ja tekevän vakavan keskustelun mahdottomaksi".

Monimuotoisuuden käsitteelle uhkaa käydä juuri näin.

Ilta-Sanomat uutisoi kesäkuussa, että "Ylen tavoitteet monimuotoisuuden lisäämiseksi ohjelmasisällöissä herättävät hämmennystä Ylen sisällä".

Toimittaja Sanna Ukkola kuvasi Iltalehden kolumnissaan yhtä Ylen monimuotoisuuskoulutustallennetta ja väitti, että Yle sysii toimittajia "pois klassisen journalismin periaatteista". YleX-radiokanavan juontaja Lloyd Libiso on arvostellut koulutuksia aktivistisiksi ja asenteellisiksi.

Ai, että ne olivatkin Sanna Ukkola ja Lloyd Libiso, jotka onnistuivat vääristelemään monimuotoisuuden käsitteen ja näin halvaannuttamaan keskustelun. Missähän välissä näin tapahtui ja miten, kun en huomannut?

Ylen kritisoidut monimuotoisuuskoulutukset ovat havainnollinen esimerkki siitä, että poliittista woke-ideologiaa ujutetaan tärkeille työpaikoille, mitä peitellään tällä kertaa piileskelemällä uudella tavalla määritellyn "monimuotoisuus"-käsitteen takana ja kieltäytymällä keskustelemasta itse asiasta. Kuten Koivunen tässä tekee.

Quote from: Anu KoivunenOn tietysti aiheellista tutkia kriittisesti erilaisia konsulttibisneksiä ja pohtia journalismin laatua, mutta tässä keskustelussa kyse ei ole ollut niistä vaan itse monimuotoisuuden idean sotkemisesta – ja sen kiistämisestä.

Historiallisesti monimuotoisuuden käsite liittyy ymmärrykseen demokratiasta, ja ihanteena on ollut lisätä representaatiota: edustusta ja ääneenpääsyä. Pyrintöjen tuloksena niin julkisen palvelun kuin muunkin median aiheet, näkökulmat ja puhuvat päät ovatkin moninaistuneet.

Miten Ukkola ja Libiso "sotkivat" ja "kiistivät" kritiikissään "monimuotoisuuden idean"? Koivunenhan tässä kiistää Ukkolan ja Libison konkreettisen kritiikin kuittaamalla sen vain keskustelun tahalliseksi sotkemiseksi.

Koivunen ei itsekään määrittele monimuotoisuutta ja hyväksyttäviä keinoja sen lisäämiseksi vaan vetoaa "pyrintöihin", joiden tuloksena "median aiheet, näkökulmat ja puhuvat päät ovat moninaistuneet". En näe yhteyttä saati vastausta koulutuksesta esitettyyn kritiikkiin paitsi sen kautta, että Koivusen mielestä ilmeisesti kaikki "monimuotoisuudella" perusteltu on oikein ja oikeutettua.

Quote from: Anu KoivunenKulttuurisotien peilimaailmassa tämä demokratian lähtökohta ja ihanne esitetään kuitenkin uhkana, milloin eliitin, milloin aktivistien valtapyrkimyksenä. Ideaalit käännetään irvikuvikseen ja asiallisesti ottaen vastakohdikseen. Monimuotoisuus onkin rajoittamista, tasa-arvo epätasa-arvoa ja inkluusio ulossulkemista.

Jostain mukaan tempaistiin "kulttuurisodat", joissa "monimuotoisuus" "esitetään uhkana". Miten tämäkään liittyy Ukkolan ja Libison esittämään kritiikkiin kuin yrityksenä leimata ja mitätöidä heidät "kulttuurisotien" edustajiksi?

Kukaan ei kai ole tässä yhteydessä Koivusen olkiukon lisäksi väittänyt monimuotoisuutta rajoittamiseksi ja tasa-arvoa epätasa-arvoksi, mutta totta kai on mahdollista toteuttaa poliittisia pyrkimyksiä monimuotoisuuteen ja tasa-arvoon pyrkimisen varjolla juuri niin, että ne kääntyvät vastakohdikseen. Sitä on esimerkiksi jonkin etnisen ryhmän suosiminen, joka on laissa kiellettyä. Toisin kuin aktivistit ja joskus poliitikotkin antavat ymmärtää, esimerkiksi etniset tai sukupuolivähemmistöjen kiintiöt ovat Suomessa edelleen laittomia, vaikka ne olisivat Ylen, vihreän ministerin (https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000004596850.html) ja koivusten mielestä kuinka hyvä idea toteuttaa vaikka vähän salassa.

Quote from: Anu KoivunenKesän aikana on puhuttu sekaisin kaikesta: henkilöstökoulutuksista, laittomista rekistereistä, sensitiivisyyslukijoista draamatuotannoissa, anonyymeistä harjoittelijarekrytoinneista, Aleksi Valavuoresta, heteromiesten sorsimisesta, "klassisesta journalismista", turvallisen tilan ohjeistuksista ja avainkaulanauhoista.

Kun käsitteet sotketaan, asiallinen keskustelu halvaantuu. Kun ei ole käyttökelpoisia sanoja, ei ole enää ongelmaakaan.

Keskustelu representaatiosta ja ääneenpääsystä – ja siten demokratian toteutumisesta – vaikeutuu ja käy mahdottomaksi. Joillekin keskustelijoille se on myös koko sotkemisen tarkoitus.

Kukahan aloitti sotkemisen määrittelemällä termit uusiksi (esim. rotuun, ihonväriin ja etniseen taustaan liittyvää syrjintää tarkoittaneen rasismin käsitteen huima kehitys viime vuosikymmeninä) ja on vain jatkanut sitä? Kukahan puhuu sekaisin kaikesta, eikä vastaa kysymyksiin?

Koivusen syyttely muistuttaa maahanmuuttokeskustelussa toisinaan toistetusta väitteestä (mm. Osmo Soininvaara), että järkevä maahanmuuttokeskustelu ja sen mukana järkevä maahanmuuttopolitiikka muuttui Suomessa mahdottomaksi, koska perussuomalaiset/maahanmuuttokriitikot tekivät keskustelusta sellaisen, etteivät "järkevät" ihmiset enää halunneet mukaan. Siksi maahanmuuttopolitiikkaa oli inhojen perussuomalaisten vastustamiseksi pakko liberalisoida yhä pitemmälle, kunnes lopulta Suomi ohitti viime vuosikymmenellä turvapaikkapolitiikan liberaalisuudessa "ihmisoikeuksien supervalta" Ruotsinkin. Persujen vika.

Quote from: Anu KoivunenKirjoittaja on mediatutkija ja sukupuolentutkimuksen professori Turun yliopistossa

On kuvaavaa, että päivää ennen Koivusen kolumnia Maryan Abdulkarim esitti Apu-lehden kolumnissaan (http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,97265.msg3584852.html#msg3584852) Sanna Ukkolan Yle-kritiikkinsä vuoksi valehtelevaksi, tunteisiin vetoavaksi ja mahdollisesti vaaralliseksi "sciolistiksi". Myöskään Abdulkarim ei vastannut Ukkolan kritiikkiin vaan vain paheksui kritiikin esittäjää ad hominem.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 18.08.2024, 22:40:39
Quote from: Roope on 18.08.2024, 20:13:07

Quote from: Anu Koivunen
Keskustelu representaatiosta ja ääneenpääsystä – ja siten demokratian toteutumisesta – vaikeutuu ja käy mahdottomaksi. Joillekin keskustelijoille se on myös koko sotkemisen tarkoitus.

Kukahan aloitti sotkemisen määrittelemällä termit uusiksi (esim. rotuun, ihonväriin ja etniseen taustaan liittyvää syrjintää tarkoittaneen rasismin käsitteen huima kehitys viime vuosikymmeninä) ja on vain jatkanut sitä? Kukahan puhuu sekaisin kaikesta, eikä vastaa kysymyksiin?

Kun mainitaan representaatio, niin voi olla varma, että taustalla on intersektionaalinen feminismi. Koivunen selittää asian siten, että kysymys on demokratian toteutumisesta ja ääneenpääsystä. Tämähän on melkoista hämmentämistä.

Ennen intersektionaalista feminismiä, journalismi toimi suurin piirtein näin.

1. Journalisti keksii tai saa jostakin juttuvinkin.
2. Journalisti toimii haastattelijana, ja haastattelee jutun kohdetta, eli haastateltavaa.
3. Journalisti tekee jutun.

Intersektionaalinen feminismi lisää tähän ylimääräisiä kerroksia, joista voidaan hyvällä syyllä kysyä, lisäävätkö ne yhtään mitään hyödyllistä tai olennaista journalismiin.

1. Journalisti keksii tai saa jostakin juttuvinkin.
2. Journalisti varmistaa, onko representaatio, monimuotoisuus jne. kunnossa jutun aiheen ja haastateltavan kohdalla.
3. Journalisti toimii haastattelijana, ja haastattelee jutun kohdetta, eli haastateltavaa. Turvallinen tila!
4. Journalisti tekee jutun.

Jälkimmäisessä tapauksessa journalistilla on vähemmän valinnanvaraa kuin edellisessä, koska ulkopuolinen ohjaus vähentää journalistin valintamahdollisuuksia. Ohjauksen taso sitten vain määrittelee sen, kuinka paljon valintamahdollisuudet vähenevät. Mikäli ohjausta ei ole, journalisti on täysin vapaa juttunsa suhteen. Toki sitten on muitakin vaikuttimia, mutta minun on vaikea nähdä, että ohjaus ei vähentäisi journalistista vapautta. Koivusen mainitsema "demokratian toteutuminen" on ylipäätään varsin sumuinen mittari journalismille, sillä on epäselvää, mitä sillä edes tarkoitetaan. Toki se kuulostaa hienolta ja ylevältä (pun intended).

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 19.08.2024, 21:53:03
Jokos tämä mainittiin? Tällä kertaa raina pääsee myös teatterilevitykseen. Toivottavasti tulee joskus löytymään muualtakin kuin DailyWire+:sta.
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Klippi leffan alkupuolelta pienen pohjustuksen kera.
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Ensimmäinen juttu on DEISS, joka jätti postinsa ja lähti rintaruokkimaan.
Kolmas. Kamaala meteli kun lausui Kamalan nimen noin.

Kutsuivat sitten poliisin syystä että hän on Matt Walsh.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 19.08.2024, 23:24:25
Quote from: Roope on 18.08.2024, 20:13:07
Quote from: Anu Koivunen
Historiallisesti monimuotoisuuden käsite liittyy ymmärrykseen demokratiasta, ja ihanteena on ollut lisätä representaatiota: edustusta ja ääneenpääsyä.
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Kulttuurisotien peilimaailmassa tämä demokratian lähtökohta ja ihanne esitetään kuitenkin uhkana, milloin eliitin, milloin aktivistien valtapyrkimyksenä. Ideaalit käännetään irvikuvikseen ja asiallisesti ottaen vastakohdikseen.
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Keskustelu representaatiosta ja ääneenpääsystä – ja siten demokratian toteutumisesta – vaikeutuu ja käy mahdottomaksi. Joillekin keskustelijoille se on myös koko sotkemisen tarkoitus.

Vasemmistoidiotismia.

Kaikki on demokratian vastaista tai halveksimista. Jos ei demokratian, niin oikeusvaltion. Jos ei oikeusvaltion niin rajoittamattomien ihmisoikeuksien.

Anteeksi vaan, mutta jos ei rakasta monimuotoisuutta, niin viekö se vähemmistöiltä äänioikeuden? Miten se estää demokratiaa toteutumasta? Erivärinen ei uskalla mennä äänestämään? Meilla on fatimit ja nazimat politiikan pelipaikoilla. Miten vaikkapa Halla-ahon kirjoitukset ovat estäneet heitä menemästä ehdolle ja kansalaisia äänestämästä heitä? Pikemminkin päin vastoin. Kun kritisoit toiseutta, tietty jengi vaan innostuu äänestämään toiseutta, vaikka tällä ei olisi mitään kompetenssia. Ehkä se on juuri siksi demokratian halveksintaa. Inkompetentit pääsevät päättämään asioista.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 20.08.2024, 00:34:06
Lähikaupassani on selvästi otettu DEI käyttöön, epäilykseni alkoi herätä, kun kassalle ilmestyi ilmeisesti älyllisesti kehitysvammainen, ei siinä mitään, hienoa että saa tilaisuuden, mutta asiakkaan näkökulmasta katastrofi, menee kymmenkertainen aika. Nyt kun muistelen niin suunnilleen samaan aikaan tuli myös pari ilmiselvää homoa.

Viimeksi vastassa oli tummia tyttöjä, ei siinäkään mitään, mutta en ole ikinä nähnyt niin epäammattimaista käytöstä, keskittyivät lähinnä keskustelemaan keskenään, kassojen pakolliset höpinät jäi väliin (se oli vain hyvä) ja muutenkin asenne oli todella vetelä.

Puolisoni on hakenut kyseiseen kauppaan monesti, omaa erittäin kovan CV kauppatyöhön ja hänelle eivät vastaa edes "ei kiitos". Kai se on sitten tätä jatkossa ellei keksi jotain uhristatusta nostattavaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 20.08.2024, 06:14:55
Rahan voima alkoikin näkyä, muistaako kukaan tapauksen "Bud Light" tuossa jonkun aikaa sitten? Ehkäpä se järki alkaisi löytyä muillekin.
QuoteHarley-Davidson is dropping diversity initiatives after right-wing anti-DEI campaign
QuoteTractor Supply Co. John Deere. Now Harley-Davidson.

Harley-Davidson said Monday that it's ending diversity and other progressive initiatives at the company. Harley-Davidson is the latest major American brand to backtrack from DEI policies it had supported in recent years.

Quote"We are saddened by the negativity on social media over the last few weeks, designed to divide the Harley-Davidson community," the company wrote in a statement posted on X.

No varmasti olette niin maan perusteellisen suruissanne, mutta miksi syytellä jotain merkillistä ulkoista toimijaa? Olette itse yhtiön johtona vaarantaneet n 50 Mrd dollarin liikevaihdon jollain typerällä poliittisella tempauksellanne.
Tuossa varmasti syy miksi vaikkapa meillä tuo DEI/Woke -syöpä porskuttaa niin kovasti vielä. Yle,valtion virastot ja muut verovaroista rahoitettavat läjät saavat wokettaa sen kuin kerkeävät ja jaksavat. Ei ole muuta pelkoa kuin normaali-ihmisten närkästys ja sehän noita ei haittaa, rahoitus on varma .
Jättimäinen liiketalouteen pohjaava brändi (kuten jutun H-D) kärsii kovin nopeasti seuraukset liikevaihdossaan ja -voitoissaan.
Esimerkin tavaroiden ostajista kuitenkin 99,9% on tuota woke-pakkosyöttöä vastaan, poliittinen sirkus ei sitä vain halua myöntää.
Toivottavasti ex-lenkkitossukauppias saa H-D:ltä pikaiset lähtökahvit ja poistuu takaisin Saksaan.

Quotehow the company has "gone totally woke." Among them: Harley-Davidson sponsored a bootcamp for LGBTQ entrepreneurs, donated to United Way and wants to increase its workforce diversity as it tries to grow its base of motorcycle riders.
Voiko tuon epätodennäköisempää H-D ajuria olla kuin "LGBTQ-queer-gay-lumihiutale"? Siis ei helvetti, joku euroviisuhinuri ajamassa isoa amerikan laukkupyörää jossain pinkki/viher röyhelöissään vai? En jaksa uskoa moiseen vaikka emoyhtiö kuinka wokettaisi ja homottaisi.

Ei se amerikansanonta "Go woke-Go broke" ole mitään ääärrioikeiston propagandaa.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/19/business/harley-davidson-dei-john-deere-tractor-supply/index.html
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 20.08.2024, 09:19:17
^olisi kiva jos olisi lista firmoista jotka eivät woketa eivätkä harrasta DEI idiotismia.
Täällä Suomessa, että tietäisi keltä ostaa
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.08.2024, 11:35:08
Quote from: Linkster on 20.08.2024, 06:14:55Tuossa varmasti syy miksi vaikkapa meillä tuo DEI/Woke -syöpä porskuttaa niin kovasti vielä. Yle,valtion virastot ja muut verovaroista rahoitettavat läjät saavat wokettaa sen kuin kerkeävät ja jaksavat. Ei ole muuta pelkoa kuin normaali-ihmisten närkästys ja sehän noita ei haittaa, rahoitus on varma .

Jeps, DEI-woke-sekoilu, jossa pätevän tilalle valitaan pätemätön, voi toimia vain julkishallinnossa. Tämä kannattaisi pörssiyritenkin vähitellen tajuta.

Valtioneuvostonkin kannattaisi tajuta, että DEI-woke vie myös maat selvitystilaan, jolloin hallituksen tilalle tulee konkurssipesän hoitaja, joka myy kaikki jäljellä olevat luonnolliset monopolit ja kruununjalokivet vähiten tarjoavalle. Silloin kansalainen voi odottaa vesilaskunsa kallistuvan noin 1000-kertaiseksi. Jos vettä edes on saatavilla, kiertävien vesikatkojen vuoksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 20.08.2024, 14:30:32
Verovaroilla elokuvantuotantotukia jakava säätiö on tehnyt DEI-välineen, jonka avulla jaetaan rahaa. Sähköinen lomake maksoi 70 000€, mutta se on osin kerkeneräinen vaikka on jo julkaistu.

Rahaa saa, jos elokuvan sisältö, näyttelijät, ekstrojen seksuaaliset suuntaukset ja intiimikarvoituseruukit ovat kunnossa.

Ei tälläistä voisi keksiä. Pieni aktivisti porukka yrittää ihan omin sanoin peittelemättä "muokata todellisuutta!, eli elokuvia ja sarjoja sisältämään aktivistien omaa poliittista propagandaa. Keinona on verovarojen jakamisen säätely. Kuka tuon porukan on moiseen asemaan politikoimaan päästänyt?

Kannattaa katsoa tämä ja kauhistua, miten eivät edes yritä peitellä poliittisia tavoitteitaan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdSc7nNxxaY
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pöhisijä on 20.08.2024, 15:47:36
Quote from: Linkster on 20.08.2024, 06:14:55
QuoteHarley-Davidson is dropping diversity initiatives after right-wing anti-DEI campaign
Tuosta kun näin ensimmäistä kertaa en ollut uskoa silmiäni, brändi joka myy aika paskoja prätkiä lähinnä maineensa perusteella, josta tulee mieleen vastakulttuuri, liivijengit, lainsuojattomuus, punaniskat, kapinointi, vapaus jne. alkaa tuommoiseen, aivan täysin käsittämätön temppu. En ole vielä tavannut HD ajavaa tai vaatetusta pitävää joka ei olisi lähinnä tuon maineen perusteella päätynyt hankintaan, jos ihan rehellisesti sanotaan, niin melkoisia juntteja olleet kaikki, haluavat näyttää koviksilta. Otantani ei toki kovin iso.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 20.08.2024, 16:14:27
^Minulla on sellainen mielikuva, että HD-motoristit ovat niin kaukana DEIstä ja wokistä kuin inhimillisesti on mahdollista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 20.08.2024, 19:37:46
Quote from: Pöhisijä on 20.08.2024, 15:47:36
Quote from: Linkster on 20.08.2024, 06:14:55
QuoteHarley-Davidson is dropping diversity initiatives after right-wing anti-DEI campaign
Tuosta kun näin ensimmäistä kertaa en ollut uskoa silmiäni, brändi joka myy aika paskoja prätkiä lähinnä maineensa perusteella, josta tulee mieleen vastakulttuuri, liivijengit, lainsuojattomuus, punaniskat, kapinointi, vapaus jne. alkaa tuommoiseen, aivan täysin käsittämätön temppu. En ole vielä tavannut HD ajavaa tai vaatetusta pitävää joka ei olisi lähinnä tuon maineen perusteella päätynyt hankintaan, jos ihan rehellisesti sanotaan, niin melkoisia juntteja olleet kaikki, haluavat näyttää koviksilta. Otantani ei toki kovin iso.
Mielipiteet ja -kuvat ovat kullakin omansa, aivan kuten ne paljonpuhutut aukot(joista vain kaverin haisee pahalle). Reilu 120 vuotta moottoripyöriä, huonous tuntuisi koskevan etenkin niitä joilla ei moista laitetta ole koskaan ollutkaan saatika sellaisella ajanut.
Tänään hieno loppukesän päivä. Aamulla oma 1250 cc H-D räjähti käyntiin ja suunta Ace Cafelle. Pitkin kaunista päijät-hämettä, Pulkkilanharjua pitkin lopuksi sydänhämäläiseen motoristitapahtumaan syömään briskettiä virvoitusjuoman kera mukavassa seurassa(punaniska?).

Kaverini( toinen eläköitynyt automaatioinsinööri, toinen menestynyt yrittäjä joka sai muutaman miljoonaa syytä alkaa eläkkeelle,ilm juntteja?) myös H-D:llä liikkeellä.
Nuo kavereiden "aika paskat" touring-mallit muuten maksavat kaupassa nafti 60 000€ ja en oikein jaksa uskoa että meihin vetoaa mikään elokuvista tuttu "biker-jengi" tahi muukaan Pöhisijän kuvailema tohina. Näissä ei-liivijengi-tapaamisissa jotenkin korostuu hieman paremmin sujunut elämä ja kiva ajanviete samanhenkisten tyyppien kanssa.
Minun kiristelty Porsche-design H-D ei maksanut sentään ihan noin paljoa, mutta en olekaan vielä eläkkeellä ;D

Osa esitetyistä mielikuvista tietty aivan arkea, rikollisilla moottoripyöräjengeillä on tosiaankin Harley Davidson-merkkiset moottoripyörät yleensä.Ja monet kyllä varsinaisia kylähulluja.
Tämä tästä OT:stä. 
Jokaisella olkoon oma -se ainoa oikea- mielipiteensä noista pyöristä. Minä jatkan merkin parissa, paskoista kiinapaidoista ja krääsästä H-D-brändättyinä huolimatta.
Olkaamme silti tyytyväisiä, että ikoninen merkki tajusi luopua woketuksen kurimuksesta, vaikkakin vasta äläkän jälkeen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 20.08.2024, 19:53:14
Harley-Davidson ja DEI yhdessä, ei käy.
Maailma ei noin toimi!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: wjp on 20.08.2024, 20:10:06
Quote from: Caucasian on 20.08.2024, 09:19:17
^olisi kiva jos olisi lista firmoista jotka eivät woketa eivätkä harrasta DEI idiotismia.
Täällä Suomessa, että tietäisi keltä ostaa
Wanha käy Kärkkäisellä kun on vene- tai moottorikelkkaan liittyvää tarvetta. Samoin Kärkkärin leluosasto on pikkujunnujen mieleen. Asiallista kaupankäyntiä!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pr3acherman on 21.08.2024, 11:40:46
En tiedä onko jo nähty, mutta on niin hyvää kommentointia että on hyvä katsoa vaikka toiseen kertaan.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.08.2024, 12:04:58
Quote from: Pr3acherman on 21.08.2024, 11:40:46
En tiedä onko jo nähty, mutta on niin hyvää kommentointia että on hyvä katsoa vaikka toiseen kertaan.

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Woket ovat kuin aggressiiviset muslimit.

1. Vaativat kunnioitusta ilman, että kunnioitukseen olisi mitään aihetta, yleensä juurikin päinvastoin.
2. Loukkaantuvat verisesti kritiikistä, johon on aihetta.
3. Loukkaantuvat toisten puolesta (islamin "kunnia"murhat)

Eipä ihme, että tulevat niin hyvin toimeen toistensa kanssa. Vakka on kantensa löytänyt.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 21.08.2024, 19:42:19
Tätä meininkiä on tarjolla seuraavatkin 4 vuotta :D :facepalm:
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QuoteA recent hire at the nuclear security wing of the Department of Energy has previously called for disarmament policies – which reduce or eliminate nuclear weapons – arguing that advancing "queer theory" was essential to that agenda as well as important to America's national security.

The Biden-Harris administration announced Sneha Nair had been appointed as special assistant at the National Nuclear Security Administration in February 2024. Nair believes in eradicating purported "White supremacy" in the nuclear field as well as "queering nuclear weapons" as part of a diversity, equity and inclusion push she believes is essential for deterring threats to nuclear energy facilities in the U.S.
QuoteBefore she joined the administration, she worked for the Stimson Institute, which has received hundreds of thousands from Soros' Open Society Foundations and millions from "The Embassy of the State of Qatar" over the years, Fox News Digital's review of their funding sources revealed.

Stimson and the Department of Energy were contacted for comment for this story but did not respond.
QuoteNair's DEI agenda envisions expanding America's deep secrets to people with foreign connections, claiming those individuals were discouraged from applying as an issue of race bias.

She said, "U.S. government reports show that qualified applicants with foreign ties have been discouraged from applying to sensitive national security positions and faced barriers to obtaining a security clearance. This is in part due to preconceived confirmation biases held by investigators about certain racial or ethnic groups."

"Considerable progress has been made in advancing DEI in the nuclear field, but the largest obstacle remains in ensuring that nuclear security practitioners understand how DEI can serve as a tool to strengthen nuclear security," she said in the article. "Greater focus on the intersections between nuclear security and DEI is essential."

Regarding race bias, Nair believes that White staff at nuclear facilities don't have the ability to properly evaluate threats from people of the same racial group, notably radical White supremacists.

"Diversifying the perspectives included in nuclear security decision-making can expand the definition of who or what constitutes a 'threat' for nuclear security,"
Joo, ok.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.08.2024, 20:12:00
Noilla ^ teemoilla USA nousuun:

- Pervoilun edistäminen valkoisten rotuylivaltaydinaseiden poistamiseksi on tärkeää Amerikan kansalliselle turvallisuudelle.
- Vihollismaiden agentteja pitää valita arkaluonteisiin kansallisen turvallisuuden tehtäviin ilman luotettavuusselvityksiä.
- DEI, eli pätemättömien väri-ihmisten valinta pätevien valkoisten tilalle vahvistaa ydinturvallisuutta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 22.08.2024, 07:14:35
^^ ton täytyy olla trolli, tai joku muu vitsi.

Yksipuolinen aseistariisuntahan on mitä nyt tarvitaan, eikö?


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.08.2024, 10:16:39
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 22.08.2024, 07:14:35
^^ ton täytyy olla trolli, tai joku muu vitsi.

Yksipuolinen aseistariisuntahan on mitä nyt tarvitaan, eikö?

Tuo on ihan loogista toimintaa, jos tavoitteena on tuhota USA, pois vallankumouksen tieltä. Silloin kaikki hulluus ja kaaos on hyvästä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Titus on 23.08.2024, 14:00:59
Harley-Davidson ilmoittaa lopettavansa kaikki moni­muotoisuus­projektit – vetäytyy myös Pridesta
Yritys kertoo keskittyvänsä jatkossa yksinomaan moottoripyörä­bisneksensä kasvattamiseen.
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Legendaarinen moottoripyöräbrändi Harley-Davidson ilmoittaa lopettaneensa käynnissä olleet lukuisat monimuotoisuus- ja yhdenvertaisuusprojektinsa sekä vetäytyvänsä muun muassa erilaisten ihmisoikeus- ja tasa-arvoliikkeiden tukemisesta sekä LGBTQ+ ja Pride -festivaaleilta.

– Peruutamme erilaisia ​​projekteja ja perumme aloittamiamme yhteistyö­sopimuksia ja palaamme perusasioihin, Harley-Davidson ilmoittaa tuoreessa lehdistötiedotteessaan.
Asiasta kertovat lukuisat yhdysvaltalaismediat kuten CNN. Harley-Davidson ei kommentoinut asiaa CNN:lle.

Luopumista edelsi mittava somekampanja, jossa erityisesti yhdysvaltalaiset oikeistopopulistiaktivistit hyökkäsivät joukolla Harley-Davidsonin kimppuun ja listasivat muun muassa niin sanottuja woke-hankkeita joissa yritys on mukana.

https://www.is.fi/autot/art-2000010649581.html
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.08.2024, 16:26:08
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 21.08.2024, 12:04:58

Woket ovat kuin aggressiiviset muslimit.

1. Vaativat kunnioitusta ilman, että kunnioitukseen olisi mitään aihetta, yleensä juurikin päinvastoin.
2. Loukkaantuvat verisesti kritiikistä, johon on aihetta.
3. Loukkaantuvat toisten puolesta (islamin "kunnia"murhat)

Eipä ihme, että tulevat niin hyvin toimeen toistensa kanssa. Vakka on kantensa löytänyt.

Tämä sopinee tähän väliin.

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QuoteA.Y.X @anteryasax

Vasemmistolainen vain peruskoulun käynyt skinhead Jussi Saramo katsoi yhden dokumenttielokuvan Yle Areenasta ja päätyi saman tien kertomaan, kuinka harmiton jihadismi, islamismi, terrorismi ja muun muassa viime vuosina kymmenet miljoonat afgaaninaiset orjuuttanut islaminusko on verrattuna esimerkiksi amerikkalaisiin 'fundamentalistikristittyihin'.

Suomen Vasemmistoliiton (islamistien kanssa liittoutuneiden rasististen sosialistien) mielestä tyyliin sananvapauttaan käyttävä kristillinen mummo, kuten Päivi Räsänen, on vaarallisempi kuin päitä leikkaavat ja lapsia silmiemme edessä raiskaavat islamistit.

Hällä väliä, että Suomi on #1 islamistisen terrorismin, erityisesti ISIS-terroristien, tuottaja koko maailmassa kiitos vasemmistolaisten 'suvaitsevaisten' – meidän kuuluu keskittyä siihen, kuinka 'vaarallisia' Raamattua siteeraavat kristityt mummot ovat. Hällä väliä, että Saramonkin suvaitsemat kaverinsa orjuuttivat 10000 jesidinaista parin vuoden sisällä.

Kunhan islam ei vahingoita Saramoa ja hänen fasistikavereidensa etuja, saa jokainen vähemmistö, pakolainen, tummempi, Lähi-idän vainottu ja nainen kokea kidutusmurhan ja raiskauksen, sillä Vasemmistoliitto siunaa jokaisen islamin teon.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 23.08.2024, 17:53:57
Quote from: Titus on 23.08.2024, 14:00:59
Harley-Davidson ilmoittaa lopettavansa kaikki moni­muotoisuus­projektit – vetäytyy myös Pridesta
Yritys kertoo keskittyvänsä jatkossa yksinomaan moottoripyörä­bisneksensä kasvattamiseen.
Quote
Legendaarinen moottoripyöräbrändi Harley-Davidson ilmoittaa lopettaneensa käynnissä olleet lukuisat monimuotoisuus- ja yhdenvertaisuusprojektinsa sekä vetäytyvänsä muun muassa erilaisten ihmisoikeus- ja tasa-arvoliikkeiden tukemisesta sekä LGBTQ+ ja Pride -festivaaleilta.

– Peruutamme erilaisia ​​projekteja ja perumme aloittamiamme yhteistyö­sopimuksia ja palaamme perusasioihin, Harley-Davidson ilmoittaa tuoreessa lehdistötiedotteessaan.
Asiasta kertovat lukuisat yhdysvaltalaismediat kuten CNN. Harley-Davidson ei kommentoinut asiaa CNN:lle.

Luopumista edelsi mittava somekampanja, jossa erityisesti yhdysvaltalaiset oikeistopopulistiaktivistit hyökkäsivät joukolla Harley-Davidsonin kimppuun ja listasivat muun muassa niin sanottuja woke-hankkeita joissa yritys on mukana.

https://www.is.fi/autot/art-2000010649581.html

Niinkuin jo aiemmin kirjoittelinkin, olisiko luopumista viskaalisesti tuhoisasta ideologiasta kuitenkin edeltänyt n 40% myynnin lasku? "Oikeistopopulistien" tehtävä oli vain kirjoittaa asiasta loppukäyttäjien kannalta.

Lähteistä riippuen on:
- Anheuser-busch menettäneet BudLight- woketuksellaan n 1,4 Mrd dollaria ja erittäin pitkäkestoisen mainehaitan.
- John Deere - 200-vuotias amerikkalainen uudisraivaajien jo käyttämä merkki kärsi valtavan tappion pörssissä, myynnissä ja loppukäyttäjien leirissä. Kyseessä satojen miljoonien tappio, joka johti tuhansien ihmisten irtisanomisiin ja uudelleenjärjestelyihin.
- Tractor Supply Co: n 3oo M dollarin tappio ja asiakaskunnan luottamuksen menetys.

Aiheuttajina ei ole mikään määrittelemätön joukkio oikeistopopulisteja , vaan ihan liikeyritysten itsensä harjoittama politiikka.
Markkinoiden ollessa volyymiltaan USA:n kaltaisia kannattaisi tosiaankin keskittyä vain siihen omaan osaamiseensa ja tekemiseensä.
Poliittisella pyllistelyllä on aikamoiset seuraamukset, niin maineelle kuin talouspuolellekin.

Tuo H-D:n lenkkaripelle(Zeitz) ihmetyttää edelleen. CEO:n pitäisi toteuttaa osakkeenomistajien tahtoa(niinkuin kaikissa oy-muotoisissa yhtiöissä) tai säätiöissäkin johtokunnan tavoitteita.
Siltikin, vaikka myynti sakkasi, uusia kiinnostavia pyöriä ei oikein synny, saa wokeprinsessa silti jatkaa pestissään nafti 12M€ vuosikorvauksellaan.

Mikä ihme taho saa koulutetut(?) finanssialan hahmot lähtemään moiseen tuhoavaan muoti-ideologiaan? Kuka/mikä vetelee lankoja?
Paine on ollut kova, mutta onneksi jonkunmoinen järki alkaa löytyä. Taala/Euro lienee se paras konsultti.


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 24.08.2024, 12:00:28
Quote from: Roope on 27.07.2024, 16:58:17
DEI-ideologiaa on viime aikoina arvosteltu (ja ideologiaa sokeasti ajavaa Yleä sen mukana), joten mitä tekee Yle? Ei edelleenkään haastattele ensimmästäkään kriitikkoa vaan "asiantuntijoina" kahta DEI-kouluttajaa, jotka kertovat taatun objektiivisesti, mitä DEI oikeasti pitää sisällään ja mihin sitä tarvitaan.

Näin käydään laadukasta "keskustelua" Ylen johdolla.

Yle: Suomessakin varoitellaan DEIstä, mutta mitä se oikeastaan tarkoittaa? Asiantuntijat vastaavat (https://yle.fi/a/74-20101460) 26.7.2024

Myös Hesarin mielestä on ihan parasta journalismia haastatella aiheesta neljää DEI-konsulttia "alan ammattilaisina" ja vain heitä.

Quote from: HSMikä deitä vaivaa?

Kesän aikana Suomessa kiisteltiin monimuotoisuuskoulutuksista. Niiden tarkoitus on parantaa työelämää, mutta Yhdysvalloissa niitä jo kartetaan. Alan ammattilaiset kertovat, mikä meni pieleen ja miten sama voitaisiin välttää Suomessa.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/feature/art-2000010610136.html) 24.8.2024

Quote from: HSKun konsulttitoimisto Inklusiivin työntekijät palasivat kesälomalta, ala ei ollut ennallaan. Siitä oli tullut yleinen väittelyn aihe.

Iltalehden kolumnisti Sanna Ukkola kirjoitti nähneensä Yleisradion dei-koulutusvideon. Siinä Ylen tuottaja kertoi, että yhtiössä haluttiin lisätä vähemmistöön kuuluvien edustusta ohjelmissa ja työpaikalla.

Ukkola epäili, että ajattelu vie Yleä kauemmas "klassisen journalismin" periaatteista. Alkoi keskustelu siitä, ovatko koulutukset olleet pakollisia.

Keskustelu eteni niin pitkälle, että nuorisokanava YleX:n juontaja Lloyd Libiso kertoi, ettei saanut Ylen pikkujouluissa pepperonipizzaa. Libison mukaan tämä oli yksi todiste siitä, etteivät kaikki Ylellä olekaan tasavertaisia.

"Dei-käsitteestä taidettiin puhua ensimmäistä kertaa Suomessa", monimuotoisuudesta konsultoivan Inkusiivin toimitusjohtaja Katja Toropainen sanoo.

Hän ja muut dei-tekijät kertovat nyt, miten heidän ammattikuntansa on ymmärretty väärin kesän keskusteluissa.

Minulle ei selviä jutusta, miten DEI-ideologian kauppaajat on "ymmärretty väärin", mutta pääasia, että muut ovat väärässä ja he oikeassa.

Quote from: HSInklusiivin "monimuotoisuusasiantuntijat" auttavat yrityksiä esimerkiksi silloin, kun ne haluavat estää häirintätilanteita, parantaa eritaustaisten työntekijöiden johtamista tai tavoitella yhdenvertaista rekrytointia.

Käytännössä apu voi tarkoittaa, että Inklusiiv neuvoo kansainvälistyvää yritystä, jossa halutaan työntekijöiksi muitakin kuin valkoihoisia suomenpuhujia.

Polttoaineyhtiö Nesteelle Inklusiiv loi "voimaannuttavia" videoita johtajille, jotka saattoivat sitten viedä viestiä monimuotoisuudesta ja osallisuudesta alaisilleen. Samalla Inklusiivin asiantuntijat kävivät läpi Nesteen sisäisen viestinnän materiaalit ja antoivat neuvoja, miten jokainen voi aloittaa oman "liittolaisuusmatkan" osallisuusasioissa.

Postille toteutettiin kysely diversiteetistä ja inklusiivisuudesta. Sen johtoporrasta koulutettiin siinä, miten yhdenvertaisuutta edistetään käytännössä.

Myös Helsingin Sanomia julkaiseva Sanoma tilasi vuonna 2022 Inklusiivin yhdenvertaisuuskyselyn. Sen avulla oli määrä rakentaa työyhteisö, "jossa jokainen voi olla aidosti oma itsensä". Johtoa koulutettiin ja työntekijöille laadittiin verkkokurssi.

Mikä selittääkin, miksi Hesarin journalismi aiheesta on tällaista.

Quote from: HSPerustettiin voittoa tavoittelematon Inklusiiv ry, mutta riittävää rahoitusta ei löytynyt. Oli alettava tehdä bisnestä.

Yritykset alkoivat kysellä koulutuksia. Työtä on tullut myös ulkomailta. Työkieli on englanti.

Eräänlaista työelämän aktivismia, ehkä? Ihan suoraan Toropainen ei vastaa.

"Dei-asioissa on tärkeää minun mielestäni miettiä aina kontekstia. Ja olla mahdollisimman spesifi, että keskustelu ei puuroudu. Jos me puhutaan vaikkapa liian ympäripyöreästi dei-teemasta, koska se voi tarkoittaa ihmisille tosi erilaisia asioita, niin meillä ja alalla on myös parannettavaa siinä."

Heh. Konsulttien puhe ei mitään muuta olekaan kuin ympäripyöreätä. Tässäkään jutussa ei ole mitään konkreettista ja perusteltua.

Quote from: HSDein alkumuoto, intersektionaalinen feminismi, syntyi Yhdysvalloissa 1980-luvun lopussa. Yliopistoissa alettiin kehittää teoriaa, joka huomioisi kaikki piirteet, jotka "sortavat" yksilöä.

Aktivistipiirit omaksuivat ajattelun. Osa uskoi, että ihmiset koostuvat eri identiteeteistä, joiden tarinaa ei voi kukaan muu täysin ymmärtää.

Heidän piti saada kertoa tarinansa itse. Näin toimitaan esimerkiksi kokemusasiantuntijoiden vetämissä dei-koulutuksissa.

Nuorten työntekijöiden kautta keskustelu levisi yliopistoista toimistoille.

Aiemmin poliittisuutta vältelleet yritykset alkoivat perustaa monimuotoisuusohjelmia, joiden avulla houkuteltiin parhaita työtekijöitä eliittiyliopistoista.

Deillä pystyttiin suojaamaan firmaa somemyrskyiltä, oikeustapauksilta ja osakkeenomistajien takapajuisuushuolilta.

Se vaikutti kannattavaltakin: Konsulttitoimisto McKinsey & Company teki (https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/diversity-and-inclusion/diversity-wins-how-inclusion-matters) vuonna 2020 tutkimuksen tuhannelle yhdysvaltalaisyritykselle ja raportoi monikulttuuristen yritysten pärjäävän muita paremmin taloudellisesti.

McKinseyn tutkimusten yksinkertaistetut tulokset eivät todista DEI-ideologian taloudellisesta kannattavuudesta yhtään mitään. Syy ja seuraus.

Tuloksille on kuvaavaa, että etnisen diversiteetin laskennallinen etu ei ole muuttunut McKinseyn tutkimuksissa woken ja DEI-ideologian edetessä vaan pysynyt samana.

Quote from: HSDei-väittelyn lisääntyminen ei ole Toropaisen mielestä vain hyvä käänne.

"Me emme näe, että Yhdysvaltojen dei-keskustelua tarvitsee maahantuoda Suomeen", Toropainen sanoo.

Se ei hänen mukaansa sovellu suomalaiseen yhteiskuntaan tai lainsäädäntöön.

Toisaalta se ei olisi hyväksi bisnekselle, vaikka koko bisnestä ei olisi ilman yhdysvaltalaista keskustelua.

Hellyttävää. DEI:n kritiikkiä "ei tarvitse maahantuoda Suomeen", sanoo toimitusjohtaja Toropainen, joka on maahantuonut ideologiabisneksen Suomeen.

Quote from: HSKansainvälinen dei-markkina on arvioitu kymmenen miljardin euron rahasammoksi, mutta siihen liittyy paljon ristiriitaisuuksia. Kirjainyhdistelmästä on tullut taakka.

Yhdysvalloissa on jo kirjoitettu dein kuolemasta. Yhdenvertaisuusohjelmia on alettu yrityksissä karsia. Samaa on kuulunut dei-pioneerimaa Ruotsista.

Yhdysvalloissa leikkauksia ovat tehneet esimerkiksi Zoom, Meta, Tesla, DoorDash ja X. Osa on vaihtanut omat dei-työntekijänsä ulkopuoliseen konsultointiin.

Yhdysvalloissa mistä tahansa tulee kulttuurisodan aihe, mutta siellä on noussut oikeitakin kysymyksiä: miten moninaisuutta voi edistää niin, ettei ihmisiä erotella taustansa perusteella?

Toropaisen mielestä on "myytti", että dei-työssä lokeroitaisiin yksittäisiä ihmisiä vaikka ihonvärin tai sukupuolen perusteella.

Juuri niinhän siinä tehdään. Tietysti.

Quote from: HSSuomessa pitää oppia, mikä Yhdysvalloissa on mennyt pieleen, sanoo kokenut monimuotoisuuskonsultti Jonna Louvrier. Organisaatiotutkimusta tehnyt Louvrier perusti Includia Leadership -yrityksensä suomalaisittain varhain, vuonna 2017.

Hän keskusteli dei-ongelmista kollegoidensa kanssa Piilaaksossa keväällä.

"Yleinen mieliala on, että rekrytointia on tehty liikaa niin, että saadaan asiat näyttämään hyviltä. Ja silloin se ei ole ollut objektiivista rekrytointityötä."

Yhdysvalloissa työnantajalla saattaa olla järjestelmissään tarkkoja tietoja ihmisten taustoista. Tämä saattaa johtaa Louvrierista huonoon dei-työhön, jos rekrytointipäätöksiä tehdään identiteetin, ei osaamisen perusteella. Suomessa henkilötietoja ei voi tallentaa työnantajan järjestelmiin.

Yksi virhe on ollut se, että erimieliset ihmiset on jätetty omiin ryhmiinsä. Kaikkia ei ole osallistettu riittävästi, Louvrier sanoo.

Eihän tällaisia ideologisia koulutuksia ja käytäntöjä olisi, ellei niiden ainoa hyöty olisi "saada asiat näyttämään hyviltä". Niiden tarkoitus on saada yrityksissä tukea ajatusmallille, jonka mukaan voidaan muun muassa tehdä mielivaltaisia rektytointipäätöksiä identiteetin, ei osaamisen perusteella. Lopputuloksella ei ole niin väliä, vaan tärkeintä on saada yrityksiin ja yhteiskuntaan ilmapiiri, jossa harva uskaltaa vastustaa kokonaisvaltaista kulttuurivallankumouksellista ideologiaa, koska joutuu sen edustajien (http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3585380.html#msg3585380) lynkkaamaksi julkisuudessa.

Quote from: HSLyhenteiden vaihtaminen ei auta, jos ilmapiiri on tulehtunut. HS uutisoi (https://www.hs.fi/tutkiva/art-2000010594536.html) elokuussa, että ulkomaankauppa- ja kehitysministeri Ville Tavio (ps) on määrännyt, ettei hänen virallisiin puheisiinsa saa kirjoittaa mitään seksuaalivähemmistöistä. Ihmisryhmistä puhumisen rajoittaminen on jo itsessään Louvrierin mukaan syrjivää.

Huhupuheet ja valeuutiset eivät muutu yhtään todemmiksi sillä, että HS uutisoi sellaisia. Ministeri Tavio ei ole rajoittanut kenenkään ihmisryhmistä puhumista. Ihan toiset tahot Suomessa ovat.

Quote from: HSToropainen kaivaa vihkon, jonne on listannut dein tärkeimpiä "haasteita", kuten bisneskielessä ongelmia kuvataan.

Inklusiiv myy asiakkaalleen palveluja, jotka auttavat erilaisissa tarpeissa: konsultoi strategiassa, henkilöstöhallinnossa, rekrytoinnissa, muutosjohtamisessa tai urakehityksessä.

Tämä on "maturiteetin kasvamista".

Deitä voi käyttää laajasti. Tuotekehityksessä voi olla hyödyksi, että ymmärretään, miten erilaiset ihmiset käyttävät jotakin tiettyä palvelua. Toropainen mainitsee esimerkin saippuasäiliöstä, jonka liiketunnistin ei huomannut tummaihoista kättä. "Rasistinen saippua-annostelija", laitetta nimitettiin.

Miksi kaiken on nykyään pakko olla Pahkasikaa?

Quote from: HSMonimuotoisuus on tietoa ihmisten erilaisuudesta. Inklusiivisuus on sitä, että ihmiset saadaan osallistumaan yhdenvertaisesti.

Ajatus on lainassa dei-konsultti Arthur Chanilta, jonka sitaatti on kiinnitetty Inklusiivin seinälle.

"Monimuotoisuuden lisäämiseen ilman inklusiivisuuden lisäämistä voi johtaa konflikteihin työpaikalla", Toropainen sanoo.

"Yleinen myytti on se, että monimuotoisuustyö tai dei-työ tarkoittaisi kiintiöitä tai sitä, että parasta ei palkata."

No, miten toimitaan, jos halutaan töihin ihmisiä eri taustoista, mutta lain mukaan monia taustoja, kuten seksuaalisuutta, ei voi huomioida palkkaustilanteessa?

Toropainen ei vastaa suoraan, vaan viittaa suomalaisen tasa-arvon historiaan ja yhdenvertaisuuslakiin.

Viittausta ei kerrota jutussa tarkemmin, mutta oikeastihan ideologiassa tähdätään siihen, että lakia saa ja pitääkin rikkoa, koska uudelleen määritetty "tasa-arvo", joka ylittää laissa määritetyn tasa-arvon. Tämä ei koske vain vähemmistöjen rekrytointia vaan kaikkea (vrt. "kansalaistottelemattomuus").

Quote from: HS"Jos yrityksessä on pelkästään vaikka naisia, pelkästään miehiä, kyllähän se kertoo, että joku on vinossa, koska ei meillä yhteiskunnassa ole pelkästään naisia tai pelkästään miehiä", Ristimäki sanoo.

Onnistuneessa haussa paras henkilö ei ole tahattomasti karsiutunut pois vaikka jonkun ennakkoluulon takia.

Entä se vaikein kysymys: miten voidaan huomioida monimuotoisuus valinnassa mutta olla huomioimatta hakijan taustoja?

Se tapahtuu pitkän ajan kuluessa, Ristimäki sanoo.

Ei yhden työntekijän valinnassa.

Olkiukkoa pukkaa. En oikein usko, että yhdessäkään DEI-konsulttien asiakasyrityksessä olisi ollut "pelkästään naisia, pelkästään miehiä".

Tärkein kysymys kuuluu, mistä nämä pilipalikonsultit tietävät, milloin yksittäiset haut ovat olleet onnistuneita tai epäonnistuneita. Sitä ei nimittäin voi päätellä esimerkiksi yrityksen sukupuolijakaumasta tai etnisten vähemmistöjen edustuksesta, paitsi jos lähdetään ideologisesti määritellystä lopputuloksen "tasa-arvosta". Silloin DEI-kouluttajilla riittää hommia maailman tappiin, ja juuri sehän tässä on ideana.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 24.08.2024, 13:08:57
QuoteAktivismi voi tuoda tuottoja

Yritysten vastuullisuus kyseenalaistetaan yhä kiivaammin, mutta hyvät teot kannattavat taloudellisesti myös jatkossa, uskoo viestintäasiantuntija Antti Isokangas. Suomessa yhteiskunnallisuus on yrityksille hukattu mahdollisuus, hän sanoo.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000010632374.html) 22.8.2024

Mikä tekee Antti Isokankaasta "viestintäasiantuntijan", jota kannattaa uskoa? Hesarin toimittaja Joakim Westrén-Doll ja se, että hän on viestintäkonsultti, joka myy työkseen näitä ajatuksia.

Quote from: HSONKO identiteettipolitiikka yrityksille uhka vai mahdollisuus?

Ainakin kulttuurisotijoille voi myydä kahvia. Siten yhdysvaltalainen Black Rifle Coffee Company kasvoi muutamassa vuodessa liki miljardiluokan pörssiyhtiöksi.

Yritys nousi maan konservatiivien suosioon raisulla brändäyksellä.

Mainosvideoilla paukkuvat rynnäkkökiväärit, oheistuotteena myytiin Fuck Your Sensitivity -kahvimukeja. Kun Starbucks kertoi vuonna 2017 palkkaavansa 10 000 pakolaista, BRCC uhosi palkkaavansa saman verran sotaveteraaneja.

Provokaatio voi olla lyhyellä aikavälillä toimiva strategia haastajabrändille, arvioi viestintäasiantuntija Antti Isokangas.

Quote from: HSVASTUULLISUUSTRENDI on pitkän buumin jälkeen jäähtymisvaiheessa.

Yhdysvaltain suuryhtiöt karsivat monimuotoisuusohjelmiaan. Räjähdysherkät identiteettikysymykset pitävät markkinointiosastoja varuillaan.

Kuluttajat kaipaavat brändeiltä yhä arvoja, muistuttaa Isokangas. Yhteiskunnallinen aktivismi voi olla siten erottautumistekijä, joka vahvistaa yrityksen kaupallista tulosta.

Mutta miten kertoa arvoista ilman viherpesua tai sotkuista identiteettipolitiikkaa?

Quote from: HSHukattuja mahdollisuuksia on paljon. Moni suomalaisyritys voisi kertoa esimerkiksi uroteoistaan maahanmuuttajien kotouttamisessa. Muun muassa franchising-ketjut tarjoavat maahanmuuttajille runsaasti reittejä yrittää ja työllistyä.

Se voisi puhutella kuluttajia ja työmarkkinoita, mutta yritykset eivät pidä positiivisesta vaikutuksestaan jostain syystä meteliä, Isokangas sanoo.

"Yksi syy siihen voi olla, että aihe herättää voimakkaita tunteita puolesta ja vastaan."

Mitähän ne suomalaisyritysten uroteot maahanmuuttajien kotouttamisessa voisivat olla? Wolt-kuskien maahantuonti? Positiivinen erityiskohtelu kantaväestön kustannuksella?

Uroteko olisi ilmoittaa vastustavansa suomalaisille haitallista maahanmuuttoa, vaikka se olisi yritykselle itselleen taloudellisesti kannattavaa.

Quote from: HSPoikkeuksiakin on. Vuonna 2018 Fazer esitteli osana mainoskampanjaansa Lovebot Blue -tekoälyn, joka etsi ja puuttui internetin vihapuheeseen. Sosiaalisessa mediassa kampanja herätti osin rajua vastustusta.

"Se oli ihan kunniakas yritys luoda sovinnollisuutta. En usko, että sellainen olisi Suomessa mahdotonta", Isokangas sanoo.

En ole varma, oliko mitään tekoälybottia loppujen lopuksi olemassakaan, mutta Fazerin mainoskampanja ei tähdännyt sovinnollisuuden luomiseen vaan tietoisesti mokuttajien nuoleskeluun kehottamalla muun muassa "vihapuheen" ilmiantamiseen. Kampanjassaan Fazer käytti omalla puolellaan Hussein al-Taeeta, jonka valtakunnansyyttäjä sittemmin armahti laittomasta vihapuheestaan eriskummallisella perusteella, että al-Taee oli jo etukäteen sovittanut rikoksensa työskentelemällä CMI:ssä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 24.08.2024, 14:31:21
Quote from: Roope on 24.08.2024, 12:00:28
Quote from: HS
Käytännössä apu voi tarkoittaa, että Inklusiiv neuvoo kansainvälistyvää yritystä, jossa halutaan työntekijöiksi muitakin kuin valkoihoisia suomenpuhujia.

Jos minä tarvitsen Afrikan vientiosastolle afrikkalaisia moniosaajia, pistän työnhakuilmoituksen englanniksi ja laitan vaatimukseksi "native speaker of: xx, yy or zz".

Ei hae perunanenä ei.

Ainakaan moni.

Vaan siihen ei tarvita DEI-konsulttia, vaan pikemminkin businesskonsulttia, joka osaa kertoa minkämaalaisia erityisosaajia yritykseni tarvitsee. Siihen ei tarvita DEI-konsulttia, joka sanoo, että "jos haluat myydä Afrikkaan, nettisivuilla täytyy näkyä muitakin kuin vhm perunaneniä".

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 24.08.2024, 15:30:48
^ Tosin voipi olla, että afrikkalaiset luottavat enemmän pottunokkiin kuin toisiin neekereihin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 24.08.2024, 16:24:29
Quote from: Uuno Nuivanen on 24.08.2024, 15:30:48
^ Tosin voipi olla, että afrikkalaiset luottavat enemmän pottunokkiin kuin toisiin neekereihin.

Jep. Ne kiintiömustat siellä kuvissa saavat tilaajat pohtimaan, että sama on tilata Afrikasta halvemmalla, kun tuolta saa näköjään vain DEI-Boeing-"laatua"...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 25.08.2024, 23:20:31
EU sponssasi uutta Dustborn woke-peliä 150 000 eurolla - pelaajia julkaisupäivänä muutama kymmenen: :facepalm:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/death-woke-queer-activist-video-game-funded-eu-cant-find-players

QuoteEvery new woke product seems to bomb harder than the last these days and that's a good sign for the future.  Video game players, a market which now dwarfs movies and TV streaming, are rejecting woke material en masse.  Case in point:  Dustborn.

The aggressively advertised game features a cast of queer activist "punk rock" characters that set out on a road trip across an America controlled by "conservative oppressors" that are really uncool.  Set in North America in 2030, The American Republic is under the iron fist of "Justice" and The Puritans, a fascist police force presided over by President Samuel Ward. California has gained independence and is now Pacifica, a corporatocracy ruled by the wealthy few. Texas has seceded, rebranding itself as the libertarian Columbia.

Hilariously, players fight the fascist government by using the "power of words" to gain allies and divide their enemies.  Characters can also build up their "trigger meter" to really punch the patriarchy.

As the developer, Red Thread Games, notes:
"Dustborn's story is a story about being different, about being an outcast and outsider, about having to hide who and what you are from the authorities, from society — even from your family... Last but certainly not least, it's a story about the power of disinformation, propaganda, and language, and about how powerful words can alter our perception of reality, hack minds, and change the world..."
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On gaming service Steam, the project garnered a maximum of 83 players on launch day. A total flop of epic proportions.
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One might find it ironic that a game about rebel queers fighting the government was actually co-funded by government through the Creative Europe Programme of the European Union (at least $168,000).  ESG strikes again.   

Pelin traileri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyev60Ae2Bo

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.08.2024, 23:24:58
Quote from: Totti on 25.08.2024, 23:20:31
Pelin traileri: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyev60Ae2Bo

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 26.08.2024, 08:18:12
Quote from: Totti on 25.08.2024, 23:20:31
EU sponssasi uutta Dustborn woke-peliä 150 000 eurolla - pelaajia julkaisupäivänä muutama kymmenen: :facepalm:

Peliharrastajana hieman seurannut tuota keissiä, kun alkoi meemiä puskemaan. Taitaa olla peliteollisuuden floppien isoäiti, peliä kehitettiin kuitenkin vuosien ajan ja peli sinänsä on ammattimaisesti tehty jos woketus unohdetaan hetkeksi. Mutta se mikä tekee tästä niin hauskan, on se, että kuviteltiinko pelipuljussa oikeasti SJW-markkinasegmentin olevan iso ja valmis käyttämään rahaa peliin.

Pelistudiohan on käsittääkseni norjalainen. Pelintekijät ovat kertoneet, että peli-idea syntyi 2016 Trumpin myötä. Kehitys aloitettiin v. 2020 tai ehkä jo aiemmin, varmaa tietoa vaikea löytää. Mutta siis käymällä millä tahansa pelimeemisivustolla pelintekijät olisivat voineet kalibroida bisnesasetuksensa järkevään suuntaan. Pelin julkistus sai jo negatiivista huomiota osakseen, siitä huolimatta pelintekijät painoivat päätyyn asti. Woketus on ollut pelipiireissä jo vuosia pilkan ja naureskelun kohde. Pelaajat ovat nykyään melko nopeita nyrpistelemään nenäänsä netin myötä, eivätkä yleensä ottaen tykkää siitä että pelit tuputtavat mitä tahansa ideologiaa pelikokemuksen varjolla. Politiikan valuminen peleihin on bisneslogiikan kannalta aina riskaabelia.

Näin ollen, pelillä on ilmeisesti ollut muita tavoitteita kuin tehdä bisnestä. Propagandana menee vähän samaan sarjaan kuin Pohjois-Korean johtajaa palvovat pelit, joskin ne ovat sentään "rehellistä" propagandaa ja halvalla tuotettuja. Trigger meter, voi jestas. ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 26.08.2024, 08:21:09
Quote from: Äpyli on 26.08.2024, 08:18:12
Näin ollen, pelillä on ilmeisesti ollut muita tavoitteita kuin tehdä bisnestä. Propagandana menee vähän samaan sarjaan kuin Pohjois-Korean johtajaa palvovat pelit, joskin ne ovat sentään "rehellistä" propagandaa ja halvalla tuotettuja. Trigger meter, voi jestas. ;D

Odottelen sitä uutista, kun joku niittinaamainen naisopettaja on YLE aamussa kertomassa, että hän ei voi ottaa koululaisilta älypuhelimia pois, kun pelaavat tunnilla tuota peliä. Kohta se lisätään OPS:iin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 28.08.2024, 11:39:45
QuoteSaska Saarikoski: Rasismi on apu politiikassa, mutta tabu kulttuurissa

Monimuotoisuudesta nostettuihin kohuihin on selvä syy: yritykset ja kulttuuri katsovat tulevaisuuteen, politiikka menneisyyteen.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/paakirjoitukset/art-2000010656584.html) 28.8.2024

"Kulttuuri katsoo"? Saska tarkoittaa, että tietyt "kulttuurin" edustajat "katsovat".

Quote from: Saska Saarikoski, HSKesän aikana suomalaiset saivat tutustua kirjain­yhdistelmään dei. Se tulee sanoista diversity, equity ja inclusion eli moni­muotoisuus, oikeuden­mukaisuus ja mukaan ottaminen.

Deistä on puhuttu erityisesti Yleis­radion yhteydessä. Julkisuudessa on kerrottu, että Ylessä pohditaan esi­merkiksi aihe­valintoja ja haastateltavia myös moni­muotoisuuden näkö­kulmasta. Arvostelijoiden mielestä sellainen politisoi media­talon toimintaa. Julkisuuteen vuodetussa sisäisessä keskustelussa Ylen toimitusjohtaja Merja Ylä-Anttila väitti Ylen joutuneen informaatiosodan kohteeksi.

MISTÄÄN Ylen käytävillä keksitystä hullutuksesta deissä ei ole kyse. Monimuotoisuuskoulutusta on annettu monissa muissakin suuryrityksissä ja mediataloissa. Helsingin Sanomissa oli käytössä laskuri, joka mittasi naisten ja miesten osuutta lehden sisällöstä. Siitä luovuttiin, koska laskuri osoittautui turhan mekaaniseksi keinoksi arvioida tasa-arvon toteutumista. Itse tavoitteesta ei kuitenkaan tingitty. Totta kai median kannattaa seurata sitä, miten hyvin se heijastelee maailmaa. Muuten voi alkaa luulla peiliä ikkunaksi.

Mittarista luovuttiin, koska se oli ymmärrettävä (ja sellaisena helppo kyseenalaistaa, kuten syytä olikin), mutta sen ympärille kehitettiin sekava ideologia, jossa itse tavoite on enää sivuseikka.

Kai kaikki ovat huomanneet, että näissä puolustuksissa ei käsitellä lainkaan konkreettista DEI-kritiikkiä tai esimerkiksi esitellä koulutusta ja sen tuloksia?

Quote from: Saska Saarikoski, HSToimittajana olen huvittuneena lukenut väitteitä, joiden mukaan journalismi olisi takavuosina ollut epäpoliittista mutta nyt toimittajista on tullut poliittisia. Vanhoiksi hyviksi ajoiksi kutsutaan niitä vuosia, jolloin esimerkiksi Ylessä virat jaettiin puoluekirjan mukaan. Nyt poliittisen toimittajapolven viimeisetkin mohikaanit ovat jääneet eläkkeelle, joten ainakaan tässä toimituksessa ei väitellä puolueista vaan bändeistä ja ravintoloista.

Ei, vaan takavuosina journalismissa oli todellisuuden raadollisuudesta huolimatta objektiivisuuden ja puolueettomuuden ihanne, josta ei ole enää paljon jäljellä. Enää Ylen virkoja ei jaeta puoluekirjan mukaan, mutta mielipideputki on siellä muuten vieläkin ahtaampi kuin ennen. Nykyinen toimittajapolvi on vähintään yhtä poliittista kuin 70-luvulla, vaikka se ei näy yhtä suoraan ja julkisesti puoluepoliittisuutena kuten Saskan nuoruudessa vappumarsseilla.

QuoteKulttuurikiistoissa on tapana panna vastatusten "terve järki" ja "uusin hullutus". Konservatiivit väittävät, että aikaisemmin juttujen aiheet ja työntekijät valittiin objektiivisten kriteerien mutta nykyään sukupuolen tai ihonvärin perusteella. Joopa joo.

Ei, vaan aikaisemmin juttujen aiheiden ja työntekijöiden valintakriteerien ihanne oli objektiivisuus, mutta nykyään se on sukupuoli tai ihonväri tai canceloitujen mielipiteiden välttäminen.

Quote from: Saska Saarikoski, HSTuore esimerkki terve järki -logiikasta: Yhdysvalloissa on ollut 45 presidenttiä, joista 44 on ollut valkoisia miehiä ja yksi musta mies. Se oli normaalia. Ihan outoa on sen sijaan se, että presidentiksi on ehdolla ei-valkoinen nainen. Vastustajat syyttävät Kamala Harrisia dei-ehdokkaaksi.

Niin? On helppo johtaa terveellä järjellä syyt, joiden vuoksi Yhdysvalloissa presidentit ovat olleet enimmäkseen valkoisia miehiä. "Uusin hullutus"-näkökulma asiaan on, että syynä on ollut "rasismi" tai "epäoikeudenmukaisuus" tai "diversiteetin puute", jonka vuoksi seuraavan presidentin on välttämättä oltava ei-valkoinen nainen.

Totta kai Kamala Harris on DEI-ehdokas, oikein DEI-mannekiini. Diversity, equity ja inclusion ovat hänen iskusanojaan.

Quote from: Saska Saarikoski, HSAJAN suunta on selvä: tulevaisuus niin Yhdysvalloissa kuin Suomessakin on vähemmän valkoinen. Useimmat yritykset haluavat olla aikaansa edellä, koska ne tavoittelevat nuoria työntekijöitä ja kuluttajia. Se näkyy niin yritysviestinnässä ja mainoksissa kuin kulttuurissa laajemminkin.

Ja tämä vaatii laittomiin kiintiöihin rinnastettavia diversiteettisääntöjä ja uskonnollistyyppistä cancelointikulttuuria eurooppalaisiin julkisen palvelun yleisradioyhtiöihin? En oikein osta.

Ilmeisesti itse asia eli DEI-kritiikki on merkityksetöntä juuri siksi, että "tulevaisuus on vähemmän valkoinen".

Quote from: Saska Saarikoski, HSKun työpaikkailmoituksissa ja televisiossa on kauniita ja menestyviä vähemmistöjen edustajia, mutta kotikylän ABC:llä pelkkiä vihaisia valkoisia, ihmiset alkavat epäillä, että heille tyrkytetään jotain vierasta maailmankuvaa. Epäluulo on luonut kulttuurisen vasta-aallon, jota poliitikot nyt kaikkialla länsimaissa nostavat ja jolla he surffaavat.

Tästä voisi kirjoittaa pitempäänkin, mutta aivan varmasti meille tyrkytetään kuvatulvassa vähemmistöjen esittämisen kautta "jotain vierasta maailmankuvaa". Nykyisten televisiomainosten vähemmistökuva poikkeaa jyrkästi sekä todellisuudesta että tulevaisuudesta, kun tärkeintä tuntuu olevan lisätä kuviin välttämättä "väriä" eli tilanteesta ja tarpeesta riippuen yleensä "tummaihoinen" ja "aasialainen" kuin kiintiön edustajina. Ei kuitenkaan esimerkiksi irakilainen, venäläinen tai filippiiniläinen.

Quote from: Saska Saarikoski, HSKäytännön esimerkki aikakoneen toiminnasta: yritykset varovat tiukasti leimautumasta rasistisiksi – kysykää vaikka HSL:ltä – kun taas politiikassa rasismilla voi menestyä oikein mukavasti.

Yritykset ylireagoivat HSL:n lailla mitä älyttömimpiin woke-parkaisuihin, koska "tulevaisuus on vähemmän valkoinen", mutta tämän kyseenalaistaminen on poliitikkojen nostattama "kulttuurinen viha-aalto"? Vähän vaikea pysyä perässä apologeetan ajatuksenjuoksussa.

Se, mihin Saska huolellisesti välttää tässäkin ottamasta kantaa – ja joka on myös DEI:n tarkoitus – on hämärtää, että kyse on loppujen lopuksi maahanmuuttopolitiikasta ja sen valinnoista. Me suomalaiset valitsemme maahanmuuttopolitiikan kautta, millaisia ihmisiä täällä tulevaisuudessa liikkuu, valkoisia eurooppalaisia vai ei-valkoisia maahanmuuttajia Euroopan ulkopuolelta.

Eivät yritykset ennakoi mainosvirralla tulevaisuutta vaan ne muokkaavat nykyisyyttä muokkaamalla ihmisten mielipiteitä esimerkiksi esittämällä valtamedian kautta, että kaikki maahanmuutto on meille hyväksi ja välttämätöntä, ei ollenkaan uhka ja taloudellinen taakka, jota se oikeasti on, vaan huoletonta biletystä värikkäässä jengissä kuten telkkarissa. Ruotsissa maahanmuutto ei ole mennyt kuten Strömsössä.

Niin Hesari, elinkeinoelämän edustajat kuin useimmat puolueetkin kampanjoivat sen puolesta, että nettomaahanmuuton on ylitettävä pysyvästi kantaväestön syntyvyys. Ja että väestönvaihto on kirosana. Ja että maahanmuuton ja laittomienkaan siirtolaisten oikeuksien minkäänlainen rajoittaminen on rasismia (https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000010657585.html). Saskan kolumni kannattaa ĺukea sitä vasten.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 29.08.2024, 14:24:41
HSL taisi perua tuon  tummaihoisten mainoksen poiston, joka johtui muutamasta someloukkaantujasta, jotka ajattelevat heti rasistisesti että tumma kaveri + pummilla matkustus = tummaihoiset matkustaa pummilla.
Jopa HSL älysi, että poistamalla mainoksemme he itseasiassa myönsivät oman rasistisen selkäranka ajattelun.
Saarikoski ITSE muuten todistaa, etyä Hesarissa ei ole "konservatiiveja" eikä siten heidän näkemyksiään edustettuna puhumalla, että "KONSERVATIIVIT" sitä ja tätä.
Ainakin Hesarin DEI:stä puuttuu se D, kuten kaikkialla. Konservatiivit jätetään "monimuotoisuuden" ulkopuolelle. Itseasiassa DEI onkin moniäänisyyden vastakohta eli edellyttää ideologista yksimielisyyttä.
Saksa on sinua vastaan tavallinen suomalainen. Hän ei tykkää susta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 31.08.2024, 14:18:58
Äitee on huolissaan, kun eläinlääkäri ei suostunut hoitamaan hänen poikaansa, joka identifio itsensä kissaksi. Syrjintää sanoo äite.

Ei tainnut olla loppuunasti ajateltu liike sulkea hullujenhuoneita ja pitää mielipuolia avohoitodossa.

https://youtu.be/955-DocCeBA?si=PO19qYGGeacTblJY&t=83

Edit: Jotenkin toivon, että lapsi olisi täysjärkinen ja vaan kusettaisi sekopäistä äitiään jotta ei tarvitsisi esim. mennä kouluun.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 31.08.2024, 23:22:18
Kantapaikka-foorumi estää nykyään kaikkea Trumpia puolustavaa ja monikulttuuria kritisoivaa kommentaatiota:
Quote from: Toope on 31.08.2024, 23:17:01
Huumoriketjusta (vapaa alue) hävisi sitten pari poliittista kommenttia, koska moden mielipide.
Miksi moderaatiomme on NKVD-tyylistä kun voisi olla länsimaista?

Hävetkää oikeasti!
Kantapaikan moderointi on NKVD-mallia, on ehkä pakko poistua tuolta foorumilta, koska liki kaikki kommentointi "saksitaan".
https://kantapaikka.net/index.php/topic,23.msg211212.html#msg211212 (https://kantapaikka.net/index.php/topic,23.msg211212.html#msg211212)
Pahoittelen huonoa lainausta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 01.09.2024, 19:26:05
QuoteHyvä tv-sarja lopetetaan, koska älytön "kulttuurisota" leimahti

The Acolyte -sarjan lopettamisen takana on paitsi Disneyn Tähtien sota -ähky, myös poliittisen kulttuurimme suurimmat ongelmat.
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010643704.html) 28.8.2024

Ei mitään havaintoa sarjasta tai sitä koskevasta keskustelusta, joten voin suhtautua sitäkin objektiivisemmin.

Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSDISNEY lopetti uusimman Tähtien sota-tv-sarjansa The Acolyten ensimmäisen kauden jälkeen. Maailman mittakaavassa tämä on toki melko mitätön asia. Itseään suuremmaksi tapauksen tekee se, että lopettamisen taustalla on syitä, jotka kytkeytyvät aikamme poliittisen kulttuurin suurimpiin ongelmiin.

Leslye Headlandin vetämän The Acolyten ensimmäinen kausi kasvoi loppua kohti kiinnostavaksi toiminnaksi. Useaksi kaudeksi kaavailtu tarina pimeän puolen noususta noin sata vuotta ennen Tähtien sodan tunnetuimpia tarinoita jää nyt kuitenkin kesken.

PÄÄTÖS on yhdellä tasolla ymmärrettävä. Disney on käynnistänyt liian monta Tähtien sota -projektia. Jostain pitää karsia, sillä suuri yleisö ei jaksa kovin montaa Tähtien sota -sarjaa seurata. The Acolyten katsojaluvut eivät olleet tarpeeksi suuret.

Mutta miksi juuri tämä sarja peruttiin, miksi sen katsojaluvut jäivät pieniksi ja miksi esimerkiksi taiteellisilta arvoiltaan vähäisempi Ahsoka sen sijaan saa jatkaa?

The Acolyten perumisen keskeinen syy on, että äänekäs joukko faneja vastusti sarjaa. Sarjassa on heidän mielestään kaksi ongelmaa. Ensinnäkin tarinan päähenkilöinä on kaksi mustaihoista naista, joiden kasvattivanhemmat ovat naisia. Toiseksi Tähtien sodassa aiemmin puhtoisen hyvinä pidetyt jediritarit näyttäytyvät ristiriitaisessa, jopa negatiivisessa valossa.

Kuvaan tietysti kuuluu, että tällaisten vaikuttimien rooli kiistetään ja väitetään, että sarja on laadullisesti huono. Tv-kriitikkona näen selvästi, että The Acolyte oli oikeasti hyvä sarja. Kriitikoiden arvioita keräävät palvelut kertovat kiistatta, että maailmalla kollegat ovat yleisesti samaa mieltä.

Toimittaja Jussi Ahlroth tietää sarjaa huonoksi haukkuvien fanien todelliset motiivit, jotka he kiistävät. Kriitikkona hän tietää, että sarja on oikeasti hyvä.

Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSRotten Tomatoesin mukaan 78 prosenttia kriitikoista piti sarjaa hyvänä. Sen sijaan samassa palvelussa äänestäneistä katsojista vain 18 prosenttia piti sarjaa onnistuneena. Tällaisia eroja ammattilaisten ja katsojien välillä on nähty jo sen verran, että tiedämme tämän kertovan siitä, että katsoja-arvioita on masinoitu. Joku haluaa tappaa sarjan, koska se ei miellytä. Ei siis riitä, että jättää sarjan katsomatta ja katsoo jotain muuta. Teos pitää voittaa, vaientaa ja tuhota.

Tapetaanko sarja jättämällä siitä huonoja arvioita nettiin? Luulisi tekijöille riittävän, että hyvällä sarjalla on tarpeeksi kiinnostuneita katsojia.

Jos kriitikoiden ja katsojien arviot poikkeavat toisistaan, selitys voi olla vain masinointi? Veikkaan, että kriitikot ovat tässä tapauksessa monin tavoin kaukana fanien maailmasta.

Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSÄÄRIFANIT vaikuttavat välillisesti suuren yleisön mielipiteeseen ja sitä kautta katsojalukuihin. Esimerkiksi Youtubessa on valtavasti kanavia, jotka kommentoivat tuoreeltaan genreviihdettä. Ne vetävät usein räväkkää ja kärjistävää linjaa. Negatiivisuus saa ihmiset reagoimaan helpommin kuin positiivisuus. "Disney pilasi taas kaiken!" "The Acolyte - mikä surkea sotku!"

Samantapainen vihakampanja nähtiin esimerkiksi vuonna 2016, kun uudessa The Ghostbusters -elokuvassa haamujengiläiset olivat naisia.

Hieman eri asia ilmaista netissä kielteinen mielipiteensä elokuvasta ja vaikuttaa siten potentiaalisiin katsojiin kuin esimerkiksi painostaa levittäjiä ja yhteistyökumppaneita kuten cancel-kulttuurissa.

Kyseinen The Ghostbusters -elokuva muuten lytättiin myös Hesarin arvostelussa kahden tähden leffaksi.

Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSTällaisella on hyvin vähän, jos mitään, tekemistä kulttuurijournalismin ja teoskritiikin kanssa. Kyse on ennakkoluulojen lietsonnasta, koska niin saadaan klikkejä, jotka tuovat mainostuloja. Algoritmi pitää äärimmäisyyksistä. Kun äänekäs fanijoukko on päättänyt olla jotain mieltä, tubettajan on vaikea olla rohkeasti eri mieltä. Katsojat karkaavat nopeasti viereiselle kanavalle, jossa ilmaistaan haluttu mielipide.

Tämä fanien ja some-kanavien ryhmä muodostaa genreviihteen ympärille puskurin, jonka kautta tieto uusista teoksista välittyy värittyneenä suuremmalle yleisölle. Lukuisat pienet ilmaiset viihdesivustot lainaavat otsikoitaan aika suoraan tästä kentästä. Verkkosivut ovat riippuvaisia lukijoistaan, ja siksi sivut "lukevat lukijoitaan" ja myötäilevät heidän kantojaan. Kanavien tekijät ovat usein myös itse faneja. Faneille syntyy kokemus, että he vastustavat ison rahan yritystä tuhota heidän fanittamansa tuotteet, esimerkiksi mustavalkoisen turvallisen Tähtien sodan "lesboideologialla".

Taas yksi versio siitä, kuinka fiksu kriitikko tietää jutut aina paremmin kuin muut.

Sarjaa näkemättä minusta on ihan validia olla pitämättä sarjasta vaikka sitten siksi, että Tähtien sodan perinteinen fani ei halua nähdä jediritareita "ristiriitaisessa, jopa negatiivisessa valossa" tai ei pidä ilmeisen päälleliimatusta lesboideologiasta. Miksi se on kriitikolle niin suuri ongelma?

Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSPääosin ala-arvoinen keskustelu asettuu osaksi niin sanottua "kulttuurisotaa". Kulttuurisota on sitä, kun aikuiset ihmiset riitelevät siitä, minkälaista kulttuuria toiset saavat tehdä ja kuluttaa. Se on typerää ja hyödytöntä.

En tunne juuri tätä tapausta, mutta "kulttuurisodissa" ei taida olla voittopuolisesti kuin yksi cancel-osapuoli, joka haluaa määrätä muiden puolesta, minkälaista kulttuuria he saavat tehdä ja kuluttaa.

Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSSiitä on tullut itseään ruokkiva kone. Konetta pitää liikkeessä joukko ahdasmielisiä asenteita, joita perustellaan höpinällä lännen perikadosta, perinteisten sukupuoliroolien katoamisesta, tai tässä tapauksessa "jedien pilaamisesta".

Äänekkäiden fanien mielestä nämä kaikki liittyvät toisiinsa. Jos vastustaa jedien puhtoisuuden rikkomista, puolustaa niitä arvoja, jotka pitävät yhteiskuntamme kasassa. Politiikan painopiste on siirtymässä parlamenttien ulkopuolelle, yrityselämään ja kulttuuriin.

Läpikotaisin median kautta koetussa todellisuudessa kannanotto puhtaiden jedien puolesta "lesbonoitia" vastaan voi tuntua yhtä poliittiselta teolta kuin konservatiivipuolueen äänestäminen. Ehkä enemmänkin. Sillä nimittäin näyttäisi olevan vaikutusta.

Sanojen merkityksistä ollaan nykyisin tarkkoja luultavasti siksi, että ne ovat niitä harvoja asioita, joihin voi enää vaikuttaa.

Sama koskee tv-sarjoja.

Kun parlamentaarinen politiikan tekeminen ei innosta, konservatiivisia jedejä puolustamalla voi vaikuttaa. Voi vaatia paluuta aikaan, jolloin kaikki oli yksinkertaisempaa. Edes tv:n ruudulla.

Sen jälkeen, ja sen vaatimuksen rinnalla, on vaikea saada tilaa yksinkertaiselle, mutta tärkeälle ajatukselle:

Katso sitä sarjaa. Se on vain tv-sarja ja se on ihan hyvä.

Ei niinkään kuvaus rapakontakaisesta keskustelusta, mutta kriitikon vastenmielinen tapa tyrkyttää omaa, ainoaa oikeaa näkemystänsä onnistui vakuuttamaan minut, että en tule katsomaan sarjaa. Etenkin kun ei ole Disneyn tilausta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: akez on 01.09.2024, 20:21:02
Quote from: Roope on 01.09.2024, 19:26:05
Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSPääosin ala-arvoinen keskustelu asettuu osaksi niin sanottua "kulttuurisotaa". Kulttuurisota on sitä, kun aikuiset ihmiset riitelevät siitä, minkälaista kulttuuria toiset saavat tehdä ja kuluttaa. Se on typerää ja hyödytöntä.

En tunne juuri tätä tapausta, mutta "kulttuurisodissa" ei taida olla voittopuolisesti kuin yksi cancel-osapuoli, joka haluaa määrätä muiden puolesta, minkälaista kulttuuria he saavat tehdä ja kuluttaa.

Kyse on ylhäältäpäin johdetusta maolaisesta kulttuurivallankumouksesta, jonka jokainen Kiinassa niihin aikoihin asunut tunnistaa heti, totesi tiktokissa eräs vanha kiinalaisnainen, joka muutti sittemmin USA:han.

Jos Mao on jo pihalla Kiinassakin, niin kuka johtaa tuota projektia Lännessä? Mikä on sen funktio?

No, asialla tietenkin sosialistit ja kommunistit, nuo aatteen orjat. Mutta se ei vielä riitä. On saatava vielä suurkapitaali mukaan, koska se omistaa median ja ilman sen tukea, ei kulttuurivallankumousta (6 corporations control 90% of the media outlets in America (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131394.msg3240153.html#msg3240153)).

Sosialistien hörhöilyn ja älyttömyyksien motiivit jo tiedetään. Mysteeriksi jää miksi suurkapitaali on mukana peesaamassa näitä?

US-senaattori Robert F. Kennedy Jr:n näkemys on, että suurkapitaali on mukana, jotta voi tappeluttaa rahvasta keskenään, jolloin voi hoitaa rauhassa omia hämärähommiaan, kun yleinen huomio toissijaisessa. Kyynistä & härskiä, mutta makes sense. Parempaakaan selitystä en ole kuullut tai keksinyt.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.09.2024, 20:30:22
Quote from: akez on 01.09.2024, 20:21:02
US-senaattori Robert F. Kennedy Jr:n näkemys on, että suurkapitaali on mukana, jotta voi tappeluttaa rahvasta keskenään, jolloin voi hoitaa rauhassa omia hämärähommiaan, kun yleinen huomio toissijaisessa. Kyynistä & härskiä, mutta makes sense. Parempaakaan selitystä en ole kuullut tai keksinyt.

Tavoitteena on myös jotta voi tappeluttaa kansoja keskenään, niin military complex teollisuus saa aseita myytyä ja testattua, ja uudelleenrakennushankkeitä myytyä. Ikävämpikin teoria on olemassa, mutta en viitsi huudella täällä julkisella puolella, koska Hommaan säännöt.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pugisti on 01.09.2024, 21:00:48
Ghostbusters leffa oli surkea, vaikka ois kuka näytellyt...

Acolyte, no jo alussa syö uskottavuutta, jos kaksoset, vaikka näyttävät samalta, omaavat juuri samanlaisen hiustyyliin vuosien eron jälkeenkin.
Oliko sarja hyvä... No jaaa...
Ja erilaisuus, onhan SW leffoissa ollut hyviä ja pahoja tyyppejä vaikka minkälaista eikä ole ollut ongelma. Jos aletaan liimaan päälle korostaan jotai lesbous tms niin eihän se nyt vaan ihan kaikkia jaksa innostaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 02.09.2024, 08:49:10
Quote from: Roope on 01.09.2024, 19:26:05
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Kuvaan tietysti kuuluu, että tällaisten vaikuttimien rooli kiistetään ja väitetään, että sarja on laadullisesti huono. Tv-kriitikkona näen selvästi, että The Acolyte oli oikeasti hyvä sarja. Kriitikoiden arvioita keräävät palvelut kertovat kiistatta, että maailmalla kollegat ovat yleisesti samaa mieltä.

Toimittaja Jussi Ahlroth tietää sarjaa huonoksi haukkuvien fanien todelliset motiivit, jotka he kiistävät. Kriitikkona hän tietää, että sarja on oikeasti hyvä.

Quote from: Jussi Ahlroth HSRotten Tomatoesin mukaan 78 prosenttia kriitikoista piti sarjaa hyvänä. Sen sijaan samassa palvelussa äänestäneistä katsojista vain 18 prosenttia piti sarjaa onnistuneena. Tällaisia eroja ammattilaisten ja katsojien välillä on nähty jo sen verran, että tiedämme tämän kertovan siitä, että katsoja-arvioita on masinoitu. Joku haluaa tappaa sarjan, koska se ei miellytä. Ei siis riitä, että jättää sarjan katsomatta ja katsoo jotain muuta. Teos pitää voittaa, vaientaa ja tuhota.

Jos kriitikoiden ja katsojien arviot poikkeavat toisistaan, selitys voi olla vain masinointi? Veikkaan, että kriitikot ovat tässä tapauksessa monin tavoin kaukana fanien maailmasta.

Kuuluin teini-iässä "elokuvakerhoon". Tampereella taisi olla kaksikin - olivatkohan Prisma ja Solaris?

Elokuvakerhon jäsenmaksulla pääsi kerran viikossa katsomaan jotain marginaalielokuvia. Klassikoita, kriitikoiden ja asiantuntijoiden poimintoja. Joo, olihan niissä monasti jotain oivaltavaa, "poikkitieteellistä" tai jotain kriitikoiden "tehokeinoiksi" luokiteltavaa: Hidastempoisuus, liikkumattomuus, luonnekuvat, yhteiskunnalliset kannanotot...

Mutta ei niistä mikään leffa ollut sellaista valtavirtakamaa. Vähän sama juttu kuin jossain Sodankylän elokuvafestareilla. Ne festarit ovat sitä varten, että hardcore harrastajat voivat mennä katsomaan kaikkea sitä mikä ei myy.

Kriitikot elävät ja hengittävät nyt wokea. Mitä wokempi, sitä kauniimpi. Israel on ainoa läntinen demokratia Lähi-Idässä. Joku saattaa jediritarit rinnastaa Israeliin. Vaikka jihadismi ja islamismi, mitä vastaan he joutuvat koko ajan taistelemaan on kuoleman kultti ja paha, niin paha pyritään normalisoimaan ja hyvä kiistämään etsimällä siitä mustia puolia suurennuslasin kanssa. Tähtien sodan "historiaan" (onko se historiaa vai tulevaisuutta nykyelämäämme verrattuna?) on pakko laittaa lesborakkautta, vaikka koko myöhempi saaga on kirjoitettu varsin heteronormatiiviseksi...

Jos kerran eläimissäkin on homokäyttäytymistä, niin miksei jediritarien esiäideissäkin.




Kun on kuplia ja kuplia, niin miettikääpä tätä.

Kriitikko mollaa katsojat, koska ne eivät niele lesborakkautta, mustia sankarittaria ja jedien mustamaalausta ja tästä syystä väittävät sarjaa huonoksi.

Mitä jos sarja oikeasti ON huono, ja tämän päivän kriitikoiden silmissä siitä tekee hyvän VAIN homorummutus, BLM ja pahuuden normalisointi/hyvän mustamaalaaminen.?!?? Mitä jos kriitikon wokelasit ovatkin niin vahvat, että hän ei huomaa huonoa näyttelemistä, teeskentelyä, epäjohdonmukaisuutta tai mitään, mikä voisi tehdä sarjasta huonon, kun hän nojaa käsiinsä ja silmät lasittuneena huokailee miten hienosti mustat lesbot ja hyvän pahuus tuodaan katsojalle, joka alkaa kokea turvattomuutta. Onhan koko Star Wars saga alun perin perustunut hyvän ja pahan taistelulle ja Luke Skywalkerin taistelussa nähty messiaanisen pelastajan tulo, joka pelastaa ihmiskunnan (tai avaruusoliokunnan). Se on antanut ihmisille toivoa. Nyt sekin toivo halutaan ilmeisesti ihmisiltä riistää kertomalla, että koko jedilaitos on paholaisen synnyttämä tai korruptoitunut. (tietämättä miten sen hyvyys kyseenalaistetaan)

Jos ajatellaan kristinuskoa, jonka keskeinen arvo on armo, ja islamia, jonka pelikirjaan on kirjoitettu naisten kivittäminen ja vääräuskoisten tappaminen, niin tänä päivänähän muslimien hirmutekoja vähätellään kaivamalla kristinuskon historiasta ja vanhasta testamentista jotain olkiukkoja, joilla kristityistä tehdään vähintäänkin yhtä pahoja kuin tämän päivän muslimeista. Toisessa leirissä armo kasvaa ja toisessa pahuus lisääntyy, mutta tämä ei sovi ihmisoikeuswokestereille, joiden päämäärä on löytää hyvästä pahaa ja pahasta hyvää. On ihan hienoa etsiä pahastakin inhimillisiä puolia, mutta samalla hyvän vääntäminen pahaksi ei ole tervettä.

Ihmisen geeneissä hyvän läsnäolo ja ydinperhe tuo turvaa. Tulevaisuudenkuvat, joissa nämä romutetaan, voivat olla ahdistavia. Nuoret oireilevat jo nyt. Lisää Pientä Taloa Preerialla ja vähemmän satanistilesboneekereitä kiitos.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.09.2024, 09:10:46
Quote from: ikuturso on 02.09.2024, 08:49:10
... Kriitikot elävät ja hengittävät nyt wokea. Mitä wokempi, sitä kauniimpi. ... Mitä jos sarja oikeasti ON huono, ja tämän päivän kriitikoiden silmissä siitä tekee hyvän VAIN homorummutus, BLM ja pahuuden normalisointi/hyvän mustamaalaaminen.?!??

Yritin lukio-ikäisenä käydä katsomassa näitä taide-elokuvia tms. Yksi oli "M – kaupunki etsii murhaajaa". En voinut ymmärtää elokuvan hienoutta.

Quote from: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/M_–_kaupunki_etsii_murhaajaaTyttölapsia sieppaava sarjamurhaaja vainoaa saksalaista suurkaupunkia. ... Beckert vakuuttaa tehneensä murhat oman mielisairautensa pakottamana eikä vapaasta tahdostaan. Beckertille on järjestetty jopa puolustus, joka vetoaa siihen että sairas ihminen on syyntakeeton eikä häntä voi tuomita vaan hänet pitää lähettää hoitoon ...

Yksi vasemmistoälyköksi mieltämäni kaverini esitti, että se hienosti ymmärsi lapsimurhaajaa. En ymmärtänyt mitä puolusteltavaa tuossa pahuuden normalisoinnissa oli.

Kyseessähän on lopputulokseltaan sama juttu foinikialaisten suorittama lasten polttourhaus molokille joskus muinoin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 02.09.2024, 10:05:59
Tuosta dustborn pelistä. Nykyisin on vaikea tietää onko arvostelun kirjoittanut Keijo vai Marjo-Petteri. Eräästä arvostelusta:

"I am also troubled by the lack of representation of differently-abled trans characters in wheelchairs. This is hugely problematic as it reinforces ableism, heteronormativity, and perhaps even Trump support."

Vuonna 2000 kun innostuin joskus tilaamaan dvd-leffoja ulkomailta, kertoi yksi junnutyökaveri imdb.com sivuista. Että jos siellä on arvosana vähintään 7 on leffa yleensä hyvä. Silloin se toimi ainakin hyvin. En tiedä nykyään kun en paljoa käytä. Kuitenkin siellä 'The Acolyte'n arvosana on 4.1 eli en lähtisi katselemaan sarjaa.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12262202/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 02.09.2024, 11:05:05
QuoteThe Acolyten perumisen keskeinen syy on, että äänekäs joukko faneja vastusti sarjaa. Sarjassa on heidän mielestään kaksi ongelmaa. Ensinnäkin tarinan päähenkilöinä on kaksi mustaihoista naista, joiden kasvattivanhemmat ovat naisia. Toiseksi Tähtien sodassa aiemmin puhtoisen hyvinä pidetyt jediritarit näyttäytyvät ristiriitaisessa, jopa negatiivisessa valossa.

Kuvaan tietysti kuuluu, että tällaisten vaikuttimien rooli kiistetään ja väitetään, että sarja on laadullisesti huono. Tv-kriitikkona näen selvästi, että The Acolyte oli oikeasti hyvä sarja. Kriitikoiden arvioita keräävät palvelut kertovat kiistatta, että maailmalla kollegat ovat yleisesti samaa mieltä.

:facepalm:

Äänekäs joukko eli sellaiset tyypit, jotka huomauttivat saagajatkumon tavattomista katkoksista, puutteista ja tarinan epäloogisuuksista ja siitä, että se pyrki olemaan jotain ihan muuta kuin Tähtien Sota -tarinaa lesbonoitineen, jotka tulevat raskaaksi noituuden avulla. Jedit, jotka ovat edustaneet hyvää kaikkeudessa ovatkin yht'äkkiä jotain pahiksia.

Jaksoin vanhana SW fanina katsoa peräti kaksi jaksoa. Ensimmäinen WTF?! ei jäänyt ainoaksi vaan niitä hetkiä tuli monta. Ei logiikkaa, juoni oli suunnilleen että mennään fiiliksen mukaan ja muutellaan tarvittaessa, unohdetaan kaikki entinen eikä epätarkkuuksissa ja ristiriitaisuuksissa mitään. Kaiken kaikkiaan superpaskaa tarinankerrontaa.

Minua ei itseäni haittaa, jos joku on musta, monivärinen, lesbo, homo tai alien kunhan se olemus nivoutuu elimellisesti (pun intended) tarinan juoneen ja sujuvuuteen. Lapsuuteni ja nuoruuteni SW leffat olivat Hyvän ja Pahan ultimaattista taistelua, ei mitään monivärisen tai harmaan sävyjä. Jos joku haluaa DEI sarjan, tehköön sellaisen johonkin muuhun tarinaan, keksikään itse uutta ja luovaa. Miksi vanhat asiat pitää pilata esittämällä, että ne taipuvat kaikkeen ja kaikille?

Mitä tulee kaikkitietäviin kriitikoihin, niin Rotten Tomatoes on muuttanut elokuvien rating käytäntöä siten, että ns. Luotettavat Tahot painottuvat tuloksissa enemmän eli esimerkiksi Guardian -lehden kritiikki on "luotettavampi" kuin suuren yleisön mielipide. Tämä on mielestäni suoraa valehtelua ja olen jo pidempään seurannut, kuinka paljon omat pitämiseni poikkeavat niin sanottujen suurten kriitikoiden mieltymyksistä.

Tulevaisuudessa pidän kriitikoita lähinnä ärsyttävinä itikoiden ääninä jossain kaukaisuudessa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.09.2024, 11:37:34
Quote from: Pentecost on 02.09.2024, 11:05:05... Mitä tulee kaikkitietäviin kriitikoihin, niin ...

... olen samaa mieltä kanssasi. Kun netflixin elokuvista etsi kriitikoiden valintoja, hetihän sieltä tulee ruutu täyteen mustaa tätiä (liite 1).

Kriitikoiden ylistämät historialliset sarjan sisältävät runsaasti naisia miesten rooleissa (Holmes) (liite 2)

Kriitikoiden ylistämät jännittävät elokuvat alkavat Bevery Hills kytällä. (liite 3)

Tässä ehkä kannattaa havaita, että suositukset saattavat perustua aikaisempaan katseluhistoriaan ... vaikka ei kyllä yhtään siltä tunnu.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 02.09.2024, 16:25:00
Saas nähdä mitä seuraava Bond tuo tullessaan?  :o
No toisaalta Bondin idea meni piloille jo Daniel Craigin bondien myötä. Huumori hävisi ja ylimielisestä ylivertaisesta yläluokkaisen oloisesta naisia hullaannuttavasta playboy keep calm britistä tehtiin kutakuinkin tavallinen "realistinen" kivikasvoinen toimintasankari.
Seuraava lienee DEI Bond?
Miksi muuten rivit tee omia uusia hahmoja ja niille omia leffoja ja kirjoja vasn muuttavat vanhoja?
Vähän sama kuin nykyinen sateenkaarikirkkotouhu. Olisivat vaan perustaneet oman lohkonsa, kirkkonsa, mutta vihervassarien taktiikkahan on kaapata instituutiot sisältäpäin, kuten on tapahtunut esim yliopistoissa.
Empire should strike back!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pentecost on 03.09.2024, 11:46:56
Quote from: Caucasian on 02.09.2024, 16:25:00
No toisaalta Bondin idea meni piloille jo Daniel Craigin bondien myötä.

Casino Royal oli hyvä leffa. Siitä eteenpäin nämä Graigin Bond -leffat tuntuivat jotenkin muovisilta. Muovisella viittaan kulttuurin ja taiteen muovittumiseen eli kun kunnon materiaali, kuten kivi, metalli tai puu tuntuu jotenkin konkreettiselta, niin muovi on kyllä hygieenistä ja käytännöllistä. Mutta, miltä se muovi tuntuu?

No, samalta kuin vaikkapa Casino Royalia seuranneet Bondit. Minulla oli vaikeuksia muistaa kolmen viimeisen leffan sisältöä tai juonta. Voi sen tietty laittaa alkavan dementiankin piikkiin, mutta ne eivät vaan tuntuneet yhtään miltään.

Viimeisimmässä oli todella tylsä pahis. Niin ennalta arvattava ja tylsä, että taatusti olisin itse kehitellyt jotain parempaa. Lisäksi pahiksen motivaatio oli todella outoa. Jokin kosto kaukaisessa menneisyydessä koetusta loukkauksesta. Niin kaukainen, että haukottelin keskellä elokuvaa. Näissä nykyelokuvissa käsikirjoitukset ja elokuvan roolihahmojen sisäinen logiikka tuntuu olevan jostain teinien mielikuvituksesta eli kirjoitetaan sitä mukaa kuin leffaa kuvataan suunnilleen. Ympätään jotain tuohon ja jotain tuohon ja sitten saadaan juuri ja juuri aikaiseksi jokin elokuvana tehty suoritus, joka ei kosketa juuri ketään. Muoviinpakattua kulutustavaraa. Kerran näit, toista kertaa et jaksa katsoa.

Luulisi noilla budjeteilla olevan varaa kunnon käsikirjoittajiin.
Graig myös inhosi rooliaan ja valitettavasti se näkyi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 03.09.2024, 15:21:50
Bondissa on sama kuin Batmanissa.

Ei voi olla roistoja niputtavia sankareita, ellei niiden lapsuus ole rikki. Viimeiset Bondit pohtivat tämän lapsuuden traumoja, orpoutta, lukuisia naisystäviä. Ahdistusta, patoutumaa.

Maailman paras MI6 agentti ei voi olla normaali ihminen, joka on vain taitava työssään, vaan sen täytyy olla joku muinaisuuden friikki, joka tappaa peittääkseen angstinsa. Joka rakastelee peittääkseen epäonnistuneet rakkautensa, joka....
Ei Roger Mooressa ollut hitustakaan tuollaista angstia.

Vastaava on Batmanissa. Marvelin sarjakuvissa ja vanhoissa "Thwack" "POW" batman -leffoissa ja sarjoissa oli miehiä (joista toinen trikoissa), jotka laittoivat pahiksia nippuun ja poikalapset haaveilivat Batmobilesta. Sitten alkoi se isi ja äiti Waynen hautakivellä notkuminen ja takaumat vanhempien murhasta.

Näihin kun vielä yhdistää, että viekkaimmat viholliset tietävät nämä kuviot ja käyttävät toisen ahdistusta häikäilemättömästi hyväkseen. Ilmeisesti se lopetettu Tähtien Sota historiaan sijoittuva sarjakin meni samaan kategoriaan. Jedi-ritarien syntyyn piti saada jotain pimeää ja pahaa.




Nykyään kaikki täytyy perustella ja taustoittaa. Ja sieltä pitää löytyä sitä tietyntyyppistä pahaa, niin ahdistuneet lapset voivat samaistua näihin.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 03.09.2024, 15:46:42
^eiköhän vastaus ole vain niinkin yksinkertainen ettei etenkään valkoinen vhm sankari voi olla vaan pelkästään hyvä ja ihailtava.
Kaikki paskotaan. Taru Sormusten Herrasta menee nyt teatterissa, en ole katsonut, mutta luin jutun jossa ohjaaja höpisee jotain "vaihtoehtoisesta tulkinnasta" ja ainakin Frodoa esittää nainen.
Ehkäpä viisainta jättää väliin?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 03.09.2024, 16:08:41
Tampereen teatterin versio?  Frodoksihan sopii nainen, pituusseikkojen pohjalta  :D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 03.09.2024, 17:18:42


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Gay interpretations have been part of the academic study of the Batman franchise at least since psychiatrist Fredric Wertham asserted in his 1954 book Seduction of the Innocent that "Batman stories are psychologically homosexual". Several characters in the Modern Age Batman comic books are expressly gay, lesbian, or bisexual.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Batman_franchise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_Batman_franchise)

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I was reminded about how gay batman comics used to be


https://www.threads.net/@heatherbuchanan/post/C8uq9n7vV68 (https://www.threads.net/@heatherbuchanan/post/C8uq9n7vV68)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Maalaistollo on 04.09.2024, 17:15:35
Olen pohtinut tuota kysymystä, että miksi tiedostavat puolestaloukkaantuja-ajatuspoliisit kaappaavat wanhoja hywiä juttuja kieroutettavakseen, eivätkä kehittele ihan omia juttujaan puhtaalta pöydältä. Arvelen vastauksen koostuvan kahdesta osasta.

Ensinnäkin, vääntämällä jokin vanha uuteen muotoon saadaan se vanha pois. Tähtien sota ei olekaan enää Luke Skywalker ja Han Solo, kaksi valkoista miestä, taistelemassa pahaa vastaan. Nyt se on lesboneekerit taistelemassa pahoja jediritareita vastaan, tai mistä tuossa Akolyytissä sitten onkaan kysymys. Ehkäpä joskus vodkan voimalla katson sen. Ehkäpä en. Kun kirkko saadaan kunnolla homotettua ja viherrettyä hiilineutraaliksi, sukupuolineutraaliksi ja uskontoneutraaliksi, se ei enää yhdistä ummehtuneita impiwaaralaisia voimia vastustamaan hyvien ihmisten hyviä hankkeita. Kun yliopisto saadaan tutkimaan sukupuolia, lukemaan koraania ja kaihtamaan "ongelmallisia" aiheita ja asioita, se ei enää kiistä höpötiedejorinoita, joilla perustellaan milloin mitäkin tuhoisaa. Yleispätevä periaate. Hajotetaan vanha ja samalla hajotetaan vanhan käyttäjät, kuulijat, katsojat, uskovat yhtenäisestä vastavoimasta yksittäisiksi huutelijoiksi. Divide et impera, sanoisi ehkä sivistyneempi ihminen.

Selityksen toinen osa on tiedostavien viritelmien kertakaikkinen kelvottomuus. Ne ovat hirveää kuraa. Sen porukan taiteellinen ja älyllinen lahjakkuus ja luovuus eivät yksinkertaisesti riitä minkään aidosti kiinnostavan luomiseen. Siksi täytyy napata jokin jo keksitty ja vääntää siitä omaa ajatusmaailmaa julistava muunnelma. Tuloksena on sitten eritasoisia tuotoksia, jotka vaihtelevat iljettävyydeltään välillä "tää ois ihan hyvä ilman tota pintaan hierottua wokepaskaa" ja "mitä ihmettä mä oikein katon/luen/kuulen, siis nyt hei oikeesti."

Eiköhän routa (markkinatalous) aja porsaan (sijoittajat) kotiin ennenpitkää. Ihmiset osaavat jättää kehnot tuotteet hyllyyn ilman "masinointia," ja nykyään jo rohkaistuvat kertomaan ettei aatteellinen tuputus maistu.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.09.2024, 18:05:22
Quote from: Maalaistollo on 04.09.2024, 17:15:35Ensinnäkin, vääntämällä jokin vanha uuteen muotoon saadaan se vanha pois. ... Kun kirkko saadaan kunnolla homotettua ja viherrettyä hiilineutraaliksi, sukupuolineutraaliksi ja uskontoneutraaliksi, se ei enää yhdistä ummehtuneita impiwaaralaisia voimia vastustamaan hyvien ihmisten hyviä hankkeita.

Ja tyhjiöillä on taipumus täyttyä. Uusi uskonto on tulossa. Ette ikinä arvaa mikä! Vinkki: se ei ole ilmastouskonto ...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 10.09.2024, 22:15:22
Nyt minäkin, pitkän matikan lukijana ja visuallisena oppijana, pystyn tajuamaan tätä uhrihierarkian priorisointia. On muuten hyvä video. Suosittelen! Yksi ryhmä tuosta tosin puuttuu ... mutta mikä, sitä voit tuumailla itse.

Tässä siis vain yksi muuttuja, joita muistaakseni on 16 kpl tms., kuten lihavuus. Eli se tekee tietenkin matriisilaskennasta liian monimutkaista DEI-ihmisille.

[tweet]1833568828212568368[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.09.2024, 09:30:35
Suosikki-inhokkini OO tarkoilee pullantuoksuista kommunismia.

En suosittele klikkaamaan https://www.iltalehti.fi/musiikki/a/13199e4e-8533-46aa-9df9-796add96b30b

[tweet]1833735527184372051[/tweet]

QuoteArto Koskelo🤠🥌🌻 @Arto_Koskelo

Tekstissä ilkutaan kuvitteellisille poliittisille vihollisille, jotka luulevat Ultra Brata kommunistiseksi bändiksi. Samassa kolumnissa kommunismi esitetään suht myönteisessä valossa.

Ihmiset ovat tietenkin harhaisia luullessaan jonkun lisäävän heidän aamuiseen kaurapuuroonsa ajatusta sosialismista humanistisena aatteena. Eihän murha-aatteesta puhuta myönteisesti edes Iltalehden kolumneissa. Miten se meni, että kommunismin puhtain ilmentymä Suomessa on perhe?

Kokeile korvata sana kommunismi kansallissosialismilla. Tulee jännät vibat, mutta ei huolta: vika ei ole tällä kertaa vastaanottimessa. Suomi 2024 on väkevä.😁

Onninen käyttää Ultra Brata retorisena kikkana. Sen avulla ennaltaehkäistään kolumniin kohdistuvaa kritiikkiä maalaamalla kommunismille allergiset itse keksittyyn höpöhöpökulmaan, jotta kolumnin ydinviesti päästään sujauttamaan maaliin.

Onninen näyttäisi toimivan tuossa kulttuurisodan lähteenä, ei ilmiön kommentoijana. Hän pyrkii lyömään Iltalehden kokoisella mailalla poliittista vihollista. Lisäksi hän agitoi aatteen puolesta. Epäilen, ettei oikeaa kommunismia ole Onnisen mielestä vielä koklattu.😅

Tekstillä tuntuisi olevan kaksi tarkoitusta: normalisoida Kontulan edustamaa kommunismia ja tuottaa demagogiaa Onnisen edustaman leirin poliittisesta vihollisesta. Iva on vain väline; kolumnin pääasiallinen tarkoitus ei ole olla hauska, vaan vetää matto jalkojen alta.

...Joo, totalitarismin kauhuihin suhtaudutaan epärehellisen valikoivasti. Ikään kuin olisi olemassa väärinymmärrettyä totalitarismia, vaikka se johtaa aina kauhuihin.

Antti Savolainen @AnttiSavolaine
Kontulalla on oikeastaan hyvä pointti. Kommunismi toimii ainoastaan yhteisöissä jossa kaikki tuntuvat toisensa intiimisti. Toiselta nimeltään perhe.

Arto Koskelo🤠🥌🌻 @Arto_Koskelo
Joo ja suhdetta välittävät osittain 4 miljardia vuotta tehtäväänsä hoitaneet geenit, jotka saavat vanhemman vaikka uhraamaan henkensä jälkikasvunsa vuoksi. Kommunismissa uhrataan muiden henkiä, siinä perheen ja kommunismin suurin ero.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 12.09.2024, 09:47:41
En ymmärrä miksi Oskari Onninen saa vapaasti levittää omaa harhaista ja usein epätosi propagandaansa ja polarisoida yhteiskuntaa. Sama jos Iltalehti antaisi jollekulle etnonasselle vapaasti palstatilaa oman agendaansa ajamiseen. No sehän ikäänkuin tasapuolistaisi ääritarjontaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 12.09.2024, 10:05:57
Ultra Bra muka kommunistista?? Heh, sehän oli vitsi Agit-Prop:sta. Siihen aikaan me kaikki hoilattiin Lenin Setää - ei aatteen vuoksi vaan että se oli tosi pöljä.

Suuri yleisöhän ei edes tiedä "tosimiesten lauluja", eli loppu se Meripioneerit levy.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pienivalkeapupu on 12.09.2024, 10:53:35
En muuten tajunnut tuota OO:n kolumnia laisinkaan. Tuli tunne, että lukee jotakin kahvipöydän äärellä kuultua sisäpiirin vitsiä joka ei näin ulkopuoliselle ole yhtään hauska.
Ehkä se oli osittain tarkoituskin, kirjoittajalla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.09.2024, 13:04:44
Kai tämäkin jota wokehulluutta on.

Quote from: https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/29d8700f-9d9a-42df-9b23-ae04e7aada82Kolumni: Apua, lapseni on susi – Nyt hän vaatii raakaa lihaa kouluruoaksi, mitä teen?

Sanna Ukkola
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Yhteiskunta kaivaa esiin kaikki kynnelle kykenevät asiantuntijat, jotka rientävät kertomaan täysavuttomiksi heittäytyneille vanhemmille, että lapsen oikeus identifioitua opossumiksi tai raakuksi on pyhä ja koskematon.

Loput linkistä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 13.09.2024, 13:50:09


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31.7.2024 klo 10:06
Vastuullinen työpaikka
Tee nopea testi ja voita työelämän monimuotoisuutta kartoittava DEI-tutkimus organisaatiollesi!

DEI-teemat (diversity, equity, inclusion eli monimuotoisuus, yhdenvertaisuus ja osallistaminen) ovat tulevaisuudessa yhä vahvemmin yritysten agendalla. Meille Oikotiellä on tärkeää edistää DEI -teemojen toteutumista suomalaisissa työpaikoissa.

Oikotien Vastuullinen työpaikka tutkimuksen DEI -osio tarjoaa erinomaisen mittariston, jonka avulla voidaan tunnistaa kehityskohteet ja tukea vastuullisuusraportointia sekä tasa-arvo ja yhdenvertaisuussuunnitelmien luomista.

Oikotien Vastuullinen työpaikka -yhteisö on Suomen vaikuttavin työelämän vastuullisuusyhteisö.

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Tiesitkö, että 89 prosenttia tulevaisuuden talenteista pitää vastuullisuutta tärkeänä työpaikan valintakriteerinä?

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https://tyopaikat.oikotie.fi/tyonantajalle/artikkelit/onko-teilla-hetki-aikaa-puhua-tyoelaman-vastuullisuudesta (https://tyopaikat.oikotie.fi/tyonantajalle/artikkelit/onko-teilla-hetki-aikaa-puhua-tyoelaman-vastuullisuudesta)

https://tyopaikat.oikotie.fi/kaikki-vastuulliset-tyopaikat (https://tyopaikat.oikotie.fi/kaikki-vastuulliset-tyopaikat)

Sisältövaroitus!

https://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2018/12/16/niin-kauan-kuin-minua-pidetaan-kavelevana-terveysriskina-tyolle-on-tarvetta (https://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2018/12/16/niin-kauan-kuin-minua-pidetaan-kavelevana-terveysriskina-tyolle-on-tarvetta)

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pienivalkeapupu on 13.09.2024, 15:15:54
^ Tulevaisuuden talenteista - luin että "tulevaisuuden tallenteista"  :facepalm:  Mutta menikö se, oikeasti, pahasti väärin..?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 13.09.2024, 16:33:36
Heti ensimmäinen kysymys tuossa Oikotien DEI-testissä pomppasi.

Tiedätkö moniko työyhteisöstäsi on kokenut syrjintää.
a) Tiedän
b) En tiedä mutta haluaisin tietää

Puuttuuko muidenkin mielestä tuosta jotain vaihtoehtoja?

NIin minunkin mielestäni.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 18.09.2024, 20:38:06
Quote from: https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/suomessa-vieraillut-brittiprofessori-woke-eliitti-ja-siihen-kuuluva-media-ovat-radikalisoituneet-voimakkaasti-ja-seuraus-on-karu-he-kyvyttomia-enaa-ymmartamaan-tavallisia-ihmisia/Suomessa vieraillut brittiprofessori: woke-eliitti ja siihen kuuluva media ovat radikalisoituneet voimakkaasti, ja seuraus on karu: he ovat kyvyttömiä enää ymmärtämään tavallisia ihmisiä

18.09.2024 |16:13

Suomessa vieraillut brittiprofessori, politiikan tutkija Matthew Goodwin piti Suomalaisuuden liiton järjestämässä keskustelutilaisuudessa hämmästyttävän puheenvuoron brittiläisen eliittiluokan voimakkaasta radikalisoitumisesta.

Goodwinin mukaan median, politiikan, kulttuurin ja luovien alojen eliittiluokkaan kuuluu noin 20 % kansasta. Tämä luokka on kääntynyt kulttuurivasemmalle viimeisten 20 vuoden aikana, ja samalla ajautunut hyvin keskivertoäänestäjästä.

Goodwinin mukaan elämme tänään keskellä suurinta eliittiluokan radikalisoitumista sitten 1960-luvun. Hän käy puheenvuorossaan läpi maansa poliittisen ilmapiirin muutosta, woke-ilmiötä, konservatiivipuolueen ja Boris Johnsonin täydellistä romahdusta ja sen syitä sekä käsittelee perusteellisesti eliitin irtautumista tavallisen kansan arjesta.

Lisää linkistä. Tilaisuuden video täällä: (1:37:00)

Brittiprofessori: woke-eliitti radikalisoitunut voimakkaasti, kyvytön ymmärtämään tavallisia ihmisiä
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwQR5iqAJVo&t=38s
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.09.2024, 17:29:35
Mitenkähän hyvin tämä myy?

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Comments
-Does it stay there for 9 mos? What if trans woman wants to abort it? Does the trans man have any say?
- "The loving embrace of the rectum."  I'm not sure that's the sales pitch they think it is.
- Imagine going to the hospital to have that thing surgically removed
- That's enough internet for today
- Satan called. He asked if you could tone down the degeneracy a notch.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.09.2024, 19:49:28
Nämäkö kantavat tajuttoman miehen palavasta rakennuksesta? 

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.09.2024, 20:12:01
Quote from: https://x.com/Arto_Koskelo/status/1837856794300866852Arto Koskelo🤠🥌🌻 @Arto_Koskelo

Suomessa wokehenkinen kulttuurisota jatkunee pidempään kuin muualla, koska Suomi on perässäkulkija myös vasemmistonsa osalta.

Quote from: https://www.hs.fi/maailma/art-2000010713246.htmlBritti­lehti selvitti: Woke vähenee Yhdys­valloissa

QuoteArto Koskelo🤠🥌🌻@Arto_Koskelo

Samaan aikaan kuin woke-ideologia ottaa osumaa, meillä päin kolumnistit edelleen kirjoittavat sanan lainausmerkeissä kuin vihjatakseen, että kyseessä on konservatiivien keksimä straw man. Tämä hyökkäys oli muodissa peak-woken aikaan myös Yhdysvalloissa, mutta ei ole enää

Suomi oli taistolaisineen tunkkaisemman vasemmistoradikalismin pesäke kuin Ruotsi tai Tanska, joten miksei myös social justice -wokeltajien kanssa. Eiköhän me jatketa transoikeuksista ja rasismista meuhkaamista vielä muutama vuosi, kun muut ovat jo lopettaneet.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 22.09.2024, 23:53:38
Edit: Tää olikin jo tossa yläpuolella, ei osunut silmään ensi silmäyksellä, kun oli tossa välissä.
No nyt jää varmasti monelle tyhjä olo, jos tää hiivunta etenee tännekin.
"Yhdysvalloissa kehittynyt woke-ja cancel kulttuuri nousi osaksi laajempaa keskustelua Black lives matter-liikkeen nousun aikaan ja Donald Trumpin presidenttikaudella.
Kulttuuri ja ajattelu saapui viimeistään vuonna 2021 myös Suomeen. (Hiton outo lause, mutta näin tässä lukee)
Analyysin mukaan woke-kulttuurin suosio on laskenut etenkin poliittisesti kallistuvien ihmisten sekä nuorten keskuudessa.
Keskustelu binäärisestä ja ei binäärisestä sukupuolesta ei kuitenkaan ole vastaavasti vähentynyt.https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/4dbf40d5-9696-48b4-9c28-76e5d4f576f5 (https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/4dbf40d5-9696-48b4-9c28-76e5d4f576f5)

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.09.2024, 12:29:00
Toisaalta tänne. @Totti

Quote from: Totti on 27.09.2024, 11:53:12
Mark Cuban on tullut tutuksi ohjelmasta Shark Tank, jossa sijoittajat arvioivat erinäisiä projekteja sijoitusmielessä. Cuban on tunnetusti vasemmistoliberaali ja kannattaa siten nykyään Harrista.
...

Shark Tankista sen verran, että olen aina välillä seurannut ohjelmaa ja Cubanin sijoitusperustelut ovat usein täysin käsittämättömiä. ... Vielä 2022 hänen yli 10 vuoden aikana tehdyt Shart Tank -sijoitukset olivat kokonaisuudessaan tappiolla, joten mistään sijoittajanerosta ei voida puhua.

Ohjelman seuraajana olen pitänyt Cubanin kommenteista, siis etenkin hyvistä neuvoista yrittäjille, joihin hän ei ole sijoittanut.

Mutta hänen wokettamisensa paljastumisen jälkeen olen alkanut seuraamaan uusintoja asiaa kriittisemmällä silmällä. Ja sieltähän löytyy osastoa "olemme alan johtava värillisten yritys". Kuka ostaisi mitään siksi se että se on värillisen tekemä? Ehkäpä joku valkoinen liberaali kissanainen?

Järkyttävä uittupää Mr. Wonderful on suosikkini. Hän perustaa investointinsa ahneuteen ja matematiikkaan. Ylipäätään, miksi kukaan antaisi rahaa tuoreelle yrittäjälle? Syyt:

1. Yrittäjä on luotettava ja tervejärkinen, ja sopeutuu nopeasti muuttuneisiin tilanteisiin.
2. Rahoittaja tajuaa liikeidean nerokkuuden. Mitä selkeämpi idea, sen parempi.
3. Yritysidean voi suojata (patenteilla tms.) ja skaalata maailmanlaajuisesti.

Ymmärtääkseni noilla perusteilla (kaikki ehdot pitää läpäistä) "bisnes-enkelit" heittävät rahaa tuuleen. Se ei haittaa, että yhdeksän tapauksesta tuottaa tappiota, jos yksi tuottaa yli satakertaisen tuoton.

Mutta Cubanille riittää värillisyys. Se ei ole bisnestä, vaan maailman n3Eqerö1nt|ä. Minkäs heimon edustaja Cuban taas olikaan?
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.10.2024, 16:40:27
Jos kaikilla on oikeus loukkaantua milloin mistäkin, niin kenelläkään ei ole sen jälkeen puheoikeutta.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.10.2024, 21:39:04
Woke, woker, wokest.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 12.10.2024, 06:36:24
 :D
[tweet]1844856866192363630[/tweet]
Ketjussa lisää esimerkkejä mustille liian visaisista kysymyksistä.
QuoteFriday, October 11, 2024

The Justice Department filed a lawsuit (https://www.justice.gov/crt/media/1373236/dl) today against the City of South Bend, Indiana, alleging that the hiring process for entry-level police officers at the South Bend Police Department (SBPD) violates Title VII of the Civil Rights Act. Specifically, the department alleges that South Bend uses a written examination that discriminates against Black applicants and a physical fitness test that discriminates against female applicants.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-south-bend-indiana-discriminating-against-black-and-female-police
Hieman alempana ketjussa
QuoteThe physical test asks applicants to...

Jump at least 13.5 inches, do 24 sit-ups in a minute, run 300 meters in 82 seconds, do 21 push-ups with no time limit, run 1.5 miles in at least 18 minutes 56 seconds, and squeeze a pistol trigger 6 times in 10 seconds or less.

...

If you cannot pass that physical test, like 53% of women and 17% of men, then you, frankly, should not be a cop. Just be real.

If you cannot pass the written exam, you aren't competent to be a cop. You'll clearly be more likely to cause an incident than a smarter officer.
Haasteesta poimittuna.
QuoteSince at least 2016, female applicants have passed the PFT at a lower rate than male applicants :o

From 2016 through August 2019, approximately 87.6 percent of male test-takers passed the PFT, while approximately 45.5 percent of female test-takers passed
Vaatimustasoa alennettiin. Mieshakijoiden taso on laskussa. Naisista ei voi vetää samaa johtopäätöstä näillä tiedoilla. 
QuoteIn or around August 2019, Defendant, lowered the passing standards. Since that time, female applicants have continued to pass the PFT at a lower rate than male applicants.

Since August 2019, approximately 83.8 percent of male test-takers passed the PFT, while approximately 47.4 percent of female test-takers passed.
Testissä on pakko olla jotain vikaa. Missään nimessä kyseessä ei voi olla hakijoiden taso.
QuoteSince at least 2016, African-American applicants have passed the written test at a lower rate than white applicants.

Approximately 84.1 percent of white test-takers passed the written test, while approximately 62.8 percent of African-American test-takers passed.
Lopputulos ei ole tasapäinen tai -arvoinen vai miksi tätä (kyvykkäämpien syrjimistä) nyt kutsutaankaan tiedostavissa piireissä. Vaihtoehtoista valintaprosessia ei avata mutta sellainen on Oikeusministeriön mukaan olemassa. Ans kun mä arvaan. Sen nimi on DEI >:(
QuoteEven if Defendant could demonstrate that its use of the written test is job related and consistent with business necessity, there are alternative selection procedures that it could have used that would have resulted in less adverse impact against African-American applicants
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Post by: Totti on 12.10.2024, 10:18:35
Quote from: qwerty on 12.10.2024, 06:36:24
:D

QuoteFrom 2016 through August 2019, approximately 87.6 percent of male test-takers passed the PFT, while approximately 45.5 percent of female test-takers passed

QuoteIn or around August 2019, Defendant, lowered the passing standards. Since that time, female applicants have continued to pass the PFT at a lower rate than male applicants.

Ei hättää, harjoittelemalla homma hoituu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqJ5sj8kbik

:facepalm:
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Post by: supersankaritar on 18.10.2024, 12:02:43
Törmäsin väitteeseen, että Jyväskylän nuorten talolla on kerho nimeltä gay club 13-29 vuotiaille seksuaali-ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen edustajille.
Päästäisitkö oman 13 vuotiaan lapsesi tällaiseen? Jos et, niin miksi et? Mä taisin omilleni tossa iässä uhata, että jos mitään tarpeeksi älytöntä teette, niin me muutetaan jonnekin, mistä ei pääse mihinkään, metsän keskelle ja loppuu kaikki harrastukset ja kavereiden näkemiset. Toi gay clubilla käyminen olis ylittänyt metsään muuton rajat aika kepoisasti. https://nuorten.jyvaskyla.fi/nuorten-talo/talossa-tapahtuu/talon-ryhmat
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Post by: skyuu on 18.10.2024, 12:11:46
^
Siis hetkinen, stop the press ja hanskat naulaan! Gay club 13-29 vuotiaille? Siis eikös tosta pitäis tehdä jo joku rikosilmoitus tms. ja pitäis tuon nyt viranomaisiakin kiinnostaa. Ei helvetti!  :facepalm:
Tosin tuosta jos tekee ilmoitusta niin joutuisi varmaan itse posliinin hampaisiin koska homo/trans fobia ja vielä varmasti natsikin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 18.10.2024, 12:17:05
Quote from: skyuu on 18.10.2024, 12:11:46
^
Siis hetkinen, stop the press ja hanskat naulaan! Gay club 13-29 vuotiaille? Siis eikös tosta pitäis tehdä jo joku rikosilmoitus tms. ja pitäis tuon nyt viranomaisiakin kiinnostaa. Ei helvetti!  :facepalm:
Tosin tuosta jos tekee ilmoitusta niin joutuisi varmaan itse posliinin hampaisiin koska homo/trans fobia ja vielä varmasti natsikin.
No sille mun nenään haisi myös. Mutta varmaan se on taas eri asia, koska ei heteroida vaan homostellaan lasten kanssa. Sairas maailma. Mun mielestä 29 vuotias ei ole enää edes mikään kovin nuori vaan ihan kyllä aikuinen ihminen. Mulla oli siinä iässä jo 10 vuotias lapsi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 18.10.2024, 17:05:46
Quote from: supersankaritar on 18.10.2024, 12:02:43
Törmäsin väitteeseen, että Jyväskylän nuorten talolla on kerho nimeltä gay club 13-29 vuotiaille seksuaali-ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen edustajille.
Päästäisitkö oman 13 vuotiaan lapsesi tällaiseen? Jos et, niin miksi et? Mä taisin omilleni tossa iässä uhata, että jos mitään tarpeeksi älytöntä teette, niin me muutetaan jonnekin, mistä ei pääse mihinkään, metsän keskelle ja loppuu kaikki harrastukset ja kavereiden näkemiset. Toi gay clubilla käyminen olis ylittänyt metsään muuton rajat aika kepoisasti. https://nuorten.jyvaskyla.fi/nuorten-talo/talossa-tapahtuu/talon-ryhmat

Jos  13-vuotias lapsi tuollaiseen eksyisi, hän olisi hyväksikäytön uhri eikä mikään pahantekijä.

Veisin korpimetsän sijaan lääkäriin ja poliisiasemalle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 18.10.2024, 17:07:35
Quote from: Bona on 18.10.2024, 17:05:46
Quote from: supersankaritar on 18.10.2024, 12:02:43
Törmäsin väitteeseen, että Jyväskylän nuorten talolla on kerho nimeltä gay club 13-29 vuotiaille seksuaali-ja sukupuolivähemmistöjen edustajille.
Päästäisitkö oman 13 vuotiaan lapsesi tällaiseen? Jos et, niin miksi et? Mä taisin omilleni tossa iässä uhata, että jos mitään tarpeeksi älytöntä teette, niin me muutetaan jonnekin, mistä ei pääse mihinkään, metsän keskelle ja loppuu kaikki harrastukset ja kavereiden näkemiset. Toi gay clubilla käyminen olis ylittänyt metsään muuton rajat aika kepoisasti. https://nuorten.jyvaskyla.fi/nuorten-talo/talossa-tapahtuu/talon-ryhmat (https://nuorten.jyvaskyla.fi/nuorten-talo/talossa-tapahtuu/talon-ryhmat)

Jos  13-vuotias lapsi tuollaiseen eksyisi, hän olisi hyväksikäytön uhri eikä mikään pahantekijä.

Veisin korpimetsän sijaan lääkäriin ja poliisiasemalle.
Niin mun mielestäkin, mutta tää maailma on aika sekaisin ja mä uskon ton olevan nykyään ihan laillista. Ja mulla oli kyllä sellainen periaate, että jos mun lapset kasvaa kieroon, se vastuu on mulla eikä yhteiskunnalla. Joten mä olin se, joka päätti, mennäänkö homokerhoon vai ei.
Eri asia, jos joku väkisin sinne kadulta hakisi. Mutta siihen saakka se vastuu oli mulla, koska kaikkea älytöntä on maailma kuitenkin aina täynnä, niin omaakin järkeä pitää ihmisellä olla.
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Post by: Pallopääkissa on 21.10.2024, 20:10:08
[tweet]1848371458642149793[/tweet]


Quote"Mielenosoittajat pitivät mielenosoituksessa esillä DEI-kouluttajan perheen suhteita Iranin islamistiseen hallintoon. He peräsivät mielenosoituksessa myös kouluttajalta vastausta kysymykseen, tukeeko hän Iranin naisten ihmisoikeusliikettä #womanlifefreedom ja tuomitseeko hän Iranin islamistisen hallinnon tekemät mielenosoittajien sadat teloitukset."
"Imaami-veli haki vuosi sitten lähestymiskieltoa mielenosoittajille
Vuosi sitten Suomen Uutiset kirjoitti, kuinka Salmanin veli, Resalat-moskeijan imaami Abbas Bahmanpour ja hänen perheenjäsenensä hakivat laajaa lähestymiskieltoa neljälle iranilaiselle mielenosoittajille, mutta Helsingin käräjäoikeus hylkäsi hakemuksen 27.9.2023. Bahmanpour ja hänen perheensä saivat tuolloin oikeudenkäyntiä varten valtion oikeusapua."
https://suomenuutiset.fi/dei-kouluttaja-sara-salmani-teki-rikosilmoituksen-iranilaisista-mielenosoittajista-oulun-yliopistolla-syytteita-ei-nostettu/



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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.10.2024, 07:18:07
Vaikuttaa siltä, että Aalto on siirtynyt DEI-sekoilulaatuun.

Quote from: minun sähköpostiniHei!

Pahoittelumme! Teknisen virheen takia aiemmin tänään lähetetyt tapahtumakutsut Aalto-yliopiston kauppakorkeakoulun Tiedon ja innovaatioiden tutkimuskeskuksen (CKIR) tilaisuuteen on lähtenyt väärälle jakelulistalle.

Näin ollen olemme sulkeneet tapahtuman ilmoittautumislinkit ja poistamme kaikki sinne jo tulleet ilmoittautumiset.
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Post by: Linkster on 29.10.2024, 16:50:33
Eipä auttanut woketus eikä armoton homorummutuskaan Finlaysonia. Ennen laadukkaita (vuosikausia sitten) tekstiilejä valmistanut tehdas liukui halpatuotannon kurimukseen ja lopulta woken aiheuttamaan ahdinkoon. Lisänä typerät boikotoinnit ja julistukset Kärkkäinen-tavaratalolle, joka muuten tekee vuosi vuodelta komeampaa tilinpäätöstä.
Makia ja Vallila menossa nurin myös. Jotenkin lohduttavaa, että taksiuudistaja-berneri saisi oikein kunnolla kuraa. Tämä tosin taitaa olla vain haaveilua, eiköhän tuo valtion varoista jonkun konstin keksine.

QuoteFinlaysonia, Vallilaa sekä niiden Manna & Co -emoyhtiötä uhkaa konkurssi, kirjoittaa sanomalehti Hufvudstadsbladet.

Lehti pyysi Svenska handelshögskolanin eli Hankenin professoria Dennis Sundvikiä tutkimaan yritysten konkurssin todennäköisyyttä viime vuoden tilinpäätösten perusteella, sillä ne eivät ole julkaisseet tuoreempia tietoja.

Sundvik analysoi yhtiöitä professori Aatto Prihtin kehittämällä mallilla, jossa yhtiön kannattavuudesta, maksuvalmiudesta ja velkaantumisesta lasketaan niin sanottu z-arvo. Mallin mukaan konkurssi on todennäköinen, jos z-arvo alittaa -4,5. Sundvikin mukaan Finlaysonin -7,02. Hänen mukaansa syynä on se, että yhtiön oma pääoma on lopussa.

https://www.is.fi/taloussanomat/art-2000010790665.html
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Post by: P on 29.10.2024, 18:22:33
^Pakolliset Vallila-verhot takseihin, jos Kepu pääsee hallitukseen?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 29.10.2024, 21:31:04
Quote from: Linkster on 29.10.2024, 16:50:33
Eipä auttanut woketus eikä armoton homorummutuskaan Finlaysonia.
Jos Finlayson olisi Suomen valtio, budjettivaje paikattaisiin kansalaisilta ryöstetyiltä rahoilta, ja rummutettaisiin entistä kovempaa. Ehkä säädettäisiin jonkin sortin erillinen lakanavero, tai korotettaisiin alvia 25,5%;iin jotta rummut varmasti kuuluisivat. Firmoilla seinä tulee vastaan ennen pitkää, mutta en vieläkään tiedä mikä instanssi suojelee meitä valtiolta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 31.10.2024, 00:04:56
Marxistit ryöstävät yhteisestä kassasta. Ja paljon >:(
[tweet]1851722758352224618[/tweet]
X-ketju nettisivuna (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1851722758352224618.html)
Quote/2 Immediately upon taking power, the Biden-Harris White House created a task force on "scientific integrity" to provide "a review of the impact on [the] scientific integrity of diversity, equity, and inclusion practices" at all science-related agencies.
Quote/5 The @SenateCommerce report analyzed over 32,000 Prime Award grants between January 2021 and April 2024. The data showed that only 0.29 percent of all grants with start dates in 2021 centered on DEI initiatives, but by 2024, more than a quarter (27 percent) of all new grants pushed this divisive, dangerous, and illegal perspective, totaling $2.05 billion. Of this, "social justice"-related grants totaled a staggering $1.6 billion.
Onneksi täällä ei tapahdu samaa. Eikun...
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Post by: pienivalkeapupu on 31.10.2024, 21:52:36
Jäsen "Möhömahan" parin päivän takaisen viestin liittyen Marko Hamilon haastatteluun Sarastus.com sivustolla, kaivelin tietoja Mark Fisher nimisestä herrasta joka etuoikeutettujen uusfeministien cancelloinnin edesauttamana ns päätti päivänsö etukäteen - hänellä oli henk koht kokemusta mt ongelmista.
Edellä mainittu C toimenpide johrui MF:n esittämästä kritiikistä uusfeministejä kohtaan julkaisussaan Exiting the Vampire Castle: voimaantuneet uusliberaalit tarvitsevat ihmisryhmän, jota katsoa alaspäin jotta he itse nousisivat ylöspäin... omassa kuplassaan (=linnassaan).

Mielenkiintoisia termejä tuli vastaan nettiekskurssiollani, hauntology, modern capitalism sekä sanoista lyhenne Gender Identity Theorists eli ...GITs - ouch  :roll:   Mit hei, get over it  :-*
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.11.2024, 13:01:21
Rosa Meriläinen tätiselittää meille biologiaa.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 08.11.2024, 19:58:43
Uskonto,,hämeenlinnalainen lapsi saa 1500€ korvaus siitä että muka uskontojen mukaista musiikia
https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010821096.html?utm_medium=promobox&utm_campaign=hs_tf&utm_source=is.fi&utm_content=promobox
QuoteKoulu perui barokki­konsertin Uudellamaalla – Syynä olivat järjestäjän mukaan uskonnolliset viitteet
Musiikki|Barokkikonsertin järjestävät ovat asiasta järkyttyneitä. Rehtorin mukaan koululla ei ollut etukäteistä tietoa konsertin sisällöstä.
QuoteKyseessä oli Suomalaisen barokkiorkesterin ja Helsingin kamarikuoron yhteisesityksestä, jossa oli tarkoitus kuulla barokkisäveltäjä Georg Friedrich Händelin Messias-oratoriota.

Koulu kuitenkin perui oppilaille tarkoitetun konsertin vain pari päivää ennen keskiviikoksi suunniteltua esitystä. Syyksi kerrottiin järjestäjien mukaan musiikin uskonnolliset viittaukset.

Tunnelma kamarikuorossa ja barokkiorkesterissa on järkyttynyt päätöksen jäljiltä, kertoo barokkiorkesterin toiminnanjohtaja Laura Kajander.

"Olemme aivan puusta pudonneita."
QuoteBarokkimusiikki tarkoittaa kaikkea 1600-luvulla ja 1700-luvun alkupuolella sävellettyä länsimaista taidemusiikkia. Barokin aikana painotettiin näyttävyyttä: mahdin korostaminen näkyi muodissa, teatterin kulissirakennelmissa sekä tavassa puhua ja kirjoittaa. Barokkitaiteessa rakastettiin ylenpalttista koristelua, mutta ulkonaisen loiston ohella siihen sisältyy hyvin paljon aitoa herkkyyttä ja uskonnollista lämpöä. Olennaista barokin musiikille on myös monimutkainen polyfonia, jonka mestarina Johann Sebastian Bachia yleisesti pidetään. Barokin aikana soitinmusiikista tuli tärkeämpää kuin koskaan aiemmin.
( lähde Wikipeadia ).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 08.11.2024, 20:03:10
Quote from: simppali on 08.11.2024, 19:58:43
Uskonto,,hämeenlinnalainen lapsi saa 1500€ korvaus siitä että muka uskontojen mukaista musiikia
https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010821096.html?utm_medium=promobox&utm_campaign=hs_tf&utm_source=is.fi&utm_content=promobox
QuoteKoulu perui barokki­konsertin Uudellamaalla – Syynä olivat järjestäjän mukaan uskonnolliset viitteet
Musiikki|Barokkikonsertin järjestävät ovat asiasta järkyttyneitä. Rehtorin mukaan koululla ei ollut etukäteistä tietoa konsertin sisällöstä.

Eri tapaukset, mutta koululaisten barokkikonsertti siis perutaan Uudellamaalla sillä perusteella, että Georg Friedrich Händelin Messias-oratorio viittaa kristinuskoon.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 08.11.2024, 20:10:57
Niin, siis tietenkin Hämeenlinnan pelästyttämänä. 1500 on iso korvaussumma etenkin jos kaikki oppilaat perheineen keksivät sitä vaatia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 08.11.2024, 20:23:45
Tuo Händelin Messias-oratorio on käsittämättömän upea. Siinä on myös todella vahvat sanat:

QuoteHallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

For the Lord God Omnipotent reigneth
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
For the Lord God omnipotent reigneth

Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

The kingdom of this world
Is become the kingdom of our Lord
And of His Christ, and of His Christ
And He shall reign for ever and ever
And He shall reign for ever and ever
And He shall reign for ever and ever
For ever and ever, forever and ever

King of kings (Forever and ever Hallelujah! Hallelujah!)
And Lord of lords (Forever and ever Hallelujah! Hallelujah!)
King of kings (Forever and ever Hallelujah! Hallelujah!)
And Lord of lords (Forever and ever Hallelujah! Hallelujah!)
King of kings (Forever and ever Hallelujah! Hallelujah!)
And Lord of lords (King of kings and Lord of lords)

And He shall reign
And He shall reign
And He shall reign forever and ever
King of kings (Forever and ever)
And He shall reign (Hallelujah! Hallelujah!)
And He shall reign forever and ever

King of kings! and Lord of lords!
King of kings! and Lord of lords!

And He shall reign forever and ever
Forever and ever
Forever and ever
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
Hallelujah!

Eihän tuon vahvemmin voi asiaa ilmaista. Esitystapa aiheuttaa myös kylmät väreet, yhdessä sanojen kanssa syntyy todella hieno julistus. Sanoma on selvästi uskonnollinen, eli koulun tulisi järjestää vastaavan tasoista opetussuunnitelman mukaista ohjelmaa kaikille, joiden huoltajat ei halua lapsensa osallistuvan. Tuossa kohtaa kun koulu tajusi asian, kaksi päivää ennen esitystä, oli myöhäistä hankkia kirjalliset luvat ja järjestää erillinen ohjelma. Lisäksi vastaavan tasoisen vaihtoehtoisen ohjelman järjestäminen oli tässä tapauksessa käytännössä mahdotonta.

Tässä huippukohta Cantores Minoresin esittämänä: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfdK7hRFlYA
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 08.11.2024, 22:15:59
https://www.iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/f9e7f02a-d7bb-474f-8068-b962f7735413

HS: Koulun konsertti peruttiin uskonnollisuuden takia – Poliitikot jyrähtävät: "Nyt jotain tolkkua!"
Mistä tolkkua tulee?
Quote– Tässä ei enää tiedä, itkeäkö vai nauraa, kun nämä uskontokammoiset eivät ymmärrä, että kulttuurimme perusta lepää kristinuskon eetoksessa. Surullista sivistyksen puutetta! Essayah toteaa.

Konsertin perumista hämmästelee myös Mika Poutala (kok).

– Onko tosiaan niin, että pelottelulla saa tällaista aikaiseksi? Ja kärsijänä jälleen kerran lapset, Poutala ihmettelee.
QuotePerussuomalaisten kansanedustaja Onni Rostila päivittelee, miten "tällaista jälkeä tulee, kun vasemmistoradikaalit päästetään paisuttelemaan lainsäädäntöä ja sen tulkintaa mielensä mukaan".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 09.11.2024, 06:49:16
Minusta asia on hieman monimutkaisempi kuin tässä nyt taivastellaan. Toin jo edellä esille, että kyseessä oli kristillisen julistuksen  kannalta erittäin vahva sanoma, joka on varmasti ongelmallinen, jos uskonnonvapautta tarkastellaan.

Yleinen taivastelu ja lammastelu pitää vähitellen lopettaa ja ryhtyä laatimaan konkreettisia esityksiä siihen, mitä tällaisissa tilanteissa tehdään. Jos oikeistohallitus ei sitä tee, sen tekee vasemmistohallitus seuraavalla kaudella, ja lopputulos on paljon huonompi. Surkea tilanne kyllä, että opetusministeri on rkp:läinen.

Itselleni kysymys on sikäli ongelmallinen, että haluaisin Suomen lasten kuulevan Jeesuksesta niin paljon kuin mahdollista. En kuitenkaan pidä siitä, että sanomaa halvennetaan ja turhennetaan sanomalla, että tämä nyt on vain tämmöinen perinne, ei tämä mitään uskontoa ole. Samat argumentit toistuvat Suvivirren kohdalla. Virret ovat laulettua rukousta, ja rukous varmasti on uskonnon harjoittamista. Sitten sanotaan, että ei me oikeasti tarkoiteta mitään rukoilla, kunhan nyt pikkuisen lauleskellaan ja vältetään sitä säkeistöä, jossa puhutaan Jeesuksesta.

Minua vaivaa tavattomasti käydä ostoskeskuksissa joulun alla. Maailman upein joululaulu, Oi jouluyö, soi joskus siellä joululaulusikermän keskellä, porolaulun ja tonttulaulun välissä. Vielä jos se lauletaan englanniksi, niin kyllähän se kuulostaa hullulta, kun sieltä "seksikkäät alusvaatteet pukinkonttiin" ja "Tervon uusin kirja nyt alennuksessa" -mainosten seasta yhtäkkiä kuuluvat voimistuvat viulut ja massiivisen kuoron kirkkaimpien sopraanojen laulun yli kajahtaa Placido Domingon tai Luciano Pavarottin ääni "FALL ON YOUR KNEES", ja tekee mieli todella polvistua siihen paikkaan, mikä olisi tietysti täysin sopimatonta paikkaan nähden, hulluna vain pidettäisiin. Ja ihmiset jatkavat materialistisen joulunsa valmistelua tyytyväisinä, kiinnittämättä mitään huomiota siihen, että heitä juuri kehotettiin ylistämään maailmankaikkeuden Herraa.

Mielestäni siis perinneargumentti on kehno, ja halventaa kristinuskoa. Jos silti perinneargumentti on se, jolla saadaan lapset kuulemaan edes jotain kristinuskoon liittyvää, niin minä en ole se henkilö, joka nämä perinteet pyrkisi lakkauttamaan. Olisi kuitenkin hyvä, jos sanottaisiin suoraan, että kyse on uskonnosta, ja jaksettaisiin miettiä miten tämän kulttuuriperinnön säilyttäminen tehdään laillisesti.

Yksi selkeä teko voisi olla - ja tähän ei tarvita lakia, opetushallituksen tai opetusministeriön ohjeistus riittää - ohjeistaa kouluja niin, että samantasoisuuden tai opsin mukaisuuden vaatimuksesta voidaan joustaa, jos ohjelmanumero on poikkeuksellinen. Siis vain vuosittain samoina toistuvat tapahtumat, kuten joulukirkko, saavat rinnalleen opsin mukaisen uskonnottoman ohjelman, mutta jos oppilailla on kerran vuosisadassa -mahdollisuus päästä kuulemaan Händelin Messias-oratorio, niin silloin olisi mahdollista jättää vanhempien pyynnöstä pois jäävät oppilaat koululle ateistiopettajan kanssa katsomaan vaikka piirrettyjä.

Näin, suoritettu. Saa hyödyntää, Rostila ja Essayah, turhan taivastelun sijaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suupala on 09.11.2024, 11:03:47
Onko nyt aika tullut, että voidaan vaatia:
Mormoneilta jotka tulee ovelle 1500€?
Jehovantodistajilta -"-?
Muslimeilta sanoessaan "insallah" 1500€?
Hare Krisnoilta 1500€
"Kielillä"puhujilta 1500€
Kaikilta uskontoon viittaavilta jos ei silloin nappaa kuulla toisen tai omasta uskonnosta 1500€
Tv-uutislähetyksestä jossa pätkä kirkkomusiikkia...
Tvjumalan palvelus ohjelmasta...
...?
?

Vai voitaisko siirtyä idiotismista älylliseen ajatteluun?
En kannata kuninkaita, mutta teatteriperformanssina voin heidän kruunajaisiaan katsella telkasta tai livenä.
En ole ortodoksi, mutta voin aivan hyvin piispanvalintansa tai arkkipiispanvalintansa seurata tvstä tai livenä, ihan vain kuin Bond tai Alien elokuvaa seuraisin.
Katolinen paavinvaali on hupaisaa seurattavaa ei katoliselle, ihan vain teatteriesityksenä. Livenä tai telkasta.
Syngogan tai moskeijan sisällä heidän palvontamenojensa seuraaminen livenä tai näköradion välityksellä ei tapa eikä vaikuta kenenkään uskonnollisuuteen pätkääkään. varsinkaan jos on "vahva" omassa uskossaan. Tai vaikkei olisikaan, tokkopa kukaan niin tuuliviiri on, että kun kuulee pätkän hartauslaulua jostain toisesta uskonnosta, niin on heti siihen siirtymässä.
Ja jos on, niin paikkansa on kyllä lukkojen takana vahvassa lääkityksessä!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 09.11.2024, 13:53:51
Scientific American -lehden (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_American) päätoimittaja Laura Helmuth innostui värikkääseen kielenkäyttöön somessa Trumpin voiton jälkeen: https://x.com/kevinnbass/status/1854288815457722688/photo/1

Hän poisti ilmeiset kännipostauksensa sittemmin anteeksi pyydellen, mainiten, etteivät ne oikeasti edusta hänen ajattelutapaansa:
[tweet]1854626165354643643[/tweet]

Helmuth on päätomittajuutensa aikana (2020- )muuttanut klassisen kansantajuisen tiedelehden sisältöä "wokemmaksi", mikä on suuresti ärsyttänyt skeptisempiä tieteen ystäviä. Esimerkiksi Jerry Coyne, biologian emeritusprofessori ja 60-lukulainen liberaali, on kirjoittanut monta kriittistä artikkelia Helmuthista (https://whyevolutionistrue.com/?s=laura+helmuth&orderby=relevance&order=DESC&post_type=post). Niitä lukemalla saa ehkä käsityksen, miksi Helmuthin linja synnyttää kiistoja. Viimeisemmässä artikkelissa (https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/11/08/laura-helmuth-apologizes/) hän kommentoi Helmuthin "anteeksipyyntöä":
QuoteHer statement that her unhinged tweets "do not reflect the position of Scientific American or my colleagues," really means, of course, "Please don't fire me! I'll be a good girl from now on,"  I doubt, however, that her bosses at Springer really care about her eroding reputation. They probably care more about the bottom line, and I have no idea how the magazine is doing.

Saa nähdä, voiko Helmuth jatkaa työssään.  Veikkaanpa, että kenkää tulee.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 09.11.2024, 21:26:03
Vähän irvokasta. Ikäsuositus 0. En keksi tohon sanoja, mitkä kuvaisi tunteita.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suupala on 09.11.2024, 21:39:50
Quote from: supersankaritar on 09.11.2024, 21:26:03
Vähän irvokasta. Ikäsuositus 0. En keksi tohon sanoja, mitkä kuvaisi tunteita.

Siinä on pakko olla kirjakaupan tekemä virhe.
Alkukielellä on varmaan puhuttu IQ suosituksesta...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 09.11.2024, 21:43:58
Quote from: Suupala on 09.11.2024, 21:39:50
Quote from: supersankaritar on 09.11.2024, 21:26:03
Vähän irvokasta. Ikäsuositus 0. En keksi tohon sanoja, mitkä kuvaisi tunteita.

Siinä on pakko olla kirjakaupan tekemä virhe.
Alkukielellä on varmaan puhuttu IQ suosituksesta...
Tai jos ton avulla saavuttaa sen iQ 0 tason. Mietin tässä nimittäin, että jos tollasta lapset laitetaan uskomaan totena pienestä asti, niin he sitten oikeasti uskoo siihen. Että poika voi käydä toisen pojan kanssa hommiin ja saada lapsia. Miksi ihmiset haluaa hämmentää lapsensa noin?
Eikö he vaan ymmärrä, että toi on sitten lapselle totta tuo heidän leikki.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 09.11.2024, 22:12:10
Quote from: Suupala on 09.11.2024, 21:39:50
Quote from: supersankaritar on 09.11.2024, 21:26:03
Vähän irvokasta. Ikäsuositus 0. En keksi tohon sanoja, mitkä kuvaisi tunteita.

Siinä on pakko olla kirjakaupan tekemä virhe.
Alkukielellä on varmaan puhuttu IQ suosituksesta...
Minusta tuo on sairasta ja tieteen, ihmisyyden ja terveen järjen vastaista.
Joku voi olla eri mieltä. Saa olla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 09.11.2024, 23:46:49
Olympialaisten aikaan oli paljon kohua naisten nyrkkeilyn voittajasta algerialainen Imane Khelif, joka monen mielestä oli mies. Mm. Hesari antoi ymmärtää, että miehuus olisi venäläinen salaliittoteoria ( https://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000010777967.html ) ja Khelif olisi nainen.

Nyt on selvinnyt, että Khelif todellakin on mies:

https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/medical-report-confirms-algerian-olympic-boxer-imane-khelif-is-genetically-male/

QuoteA confidential medical report accessed by French journalist Djaffar Ait Aoudia disclosed that Khelif has a 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a rare condition typically found in males, leading to the development of internal testicles and an XY chromosome profile. The revelation was first reported on pro-women's rights news website Reduxx.

Despite these findings, Khelif was allowed to compete in women's boxing at the Paris Olympics, following an earlier disqualification by the International Boxing Association (IBA) over chromosomal concerns. He won gold in his division.

The medical report, written by expert endocrinologists from hospitals in France and Algeria, outlines that Khelif has no uterus and exhibits male-typical testosterone levels, suggesting that his anatomy aligns more closely with male characteristics. In short, the report concludes Khelif has XY (male) chromosomes, testicles and a 'mircopenis'.

Poikien kivekset laskevat alas kivespussiin ennen syntymää. Joskus tämä prosessi ei toimi oikein eikä kivekset laskeudu ja myös penis saattaa jäädä kovin pieneksi eli syntyy ns. mikropenis. Jutussa mainittu "5-alpha reductase deficiency" johtaa tyypillisesti tämäntyyppisiin oireisiin. Kyseessä on kuitenkin poikalapsi siitä huolimatta, että ulkoiset sukuelimet jäävät alikehittyneiksi.

Khelif nyrkkeilyvoitto olis siis tosiasiassa bluffi. Hän ei ollut edes transu tai mitään muutakaan naisenkaltaista vaan mies, joka nyrkkeili naisten sarjassa vaikka vasemmistomedia ympäri maailman väitti jotain ihan muuta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.11.2024, 13:03:20
Osataaan sitä Suomessakin, vielä toistaiseksi. Wokepornoa Aalto-yliopistossa. Tieteen nimissä. Mukana tietenkin Kone säätiö.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 12.11.2024, 13:15:26
Quote from: Totti on 09.11.2024, 23:46:49
Olympialaisten aikaan oli paljon kohua naisten nyrkkeilyn voittajasta algerialainen Imane Khelif, joka monen mielestä oli mies. Mm. Hesari antoi ymmärtää, että miehuus olisi venäläinen salaliittoteoria ( https://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000010777967.html ) ja Khelif olisi nainen.

Nyt on selvinnyt, että Khelif todellakin on mies:

https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/medical-report-confirms-algerian-olympic-boxer-imane-khelif-is-genetically-male/

QuoteA confidential medical report accessed by French journalist Djaffar Ait Aoudia disclosed that Khelif has a 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a rare condition typically found in males, leading to the development of internal testicles and an XY chromosome profile. The revelation was first reported on pro-women's rights news website Reduxx.

Despite these findings, Khelif was allowed to compete in women's boxing at the Paris Olympics, following an earlier disqualification by the International Boxing Association (IBA) over chromosomal concerns. He won gold in his division.

The medical report, written by expert endocrinologists from hospitals in France and Algeria, outlines that Khelif has no uterus and exhibits male-typical testosterone levels, suggesting that his anatomy aligns more closely with male characteristics. In short, the report concludes Khelif has XY (male) chromosomes, testicles and a 'mircopenis'.

Poikien kivekset laskevat alas kivespussiin ennen syntymää. Joskus tämä prosessi ei toimi oikein eikä kivekset laskeudu ja myös penis saattaa jäädä kovin pieneksi eli syntyy ns. mikropenis. Jutussa mainittu "5-alpha reductase deficiency" johtaa tyypillisesti tämäntyyppisiin oireisiin. Kyseessä on kuitenkin poikalapsi siitä huolimatta, että ulkoiset sukuelimet jäävät alikehittyneiksi.

Khelif nyrkkeilyvoitto olis siis tosiasiassa bluffi. Hän ei ollut edes transu tai mitään muutakaan naisenkaltaista vaan mies, joka nyrkkeili naisten sarjassa vaikka vasemmistomedia ympäri maailman väitti jotain ihan muuta.
Siellähän oli toinenkin mieheksi epäilty nyrkkeilijä joka voitti kultaa omassa sarjassaan. Onko hänestä kuulunut mitään jälkipuinteja?
No jenkeissä miehet siivotaan nyt pois naisten urheilusta ja tyttöjen pukuhuoneista.
Seuraavat olympialaiset ovat nyt sitten USAssa ja Trumpin aikana. OC:n linja on ollut passiin merkityn sukupuolen mukaan mennään. Kisat ovat demariwoke Kaliforniassa. Konflikti tulossa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 12.11.2024, 13:38:44
Quote from: Totti on 09.11.2024, 23:46:49
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/medical-report-confirms-algerian-olympic-boxer-imane-khelif-is-genetically-male/

Tämä dailytelegraph.co.nz-domain kuulostaa vähän epäilyttävältä. Onko missään tietoa, että onko tämä jokin luotettava uutislähde vaiko joku uutislähteeksi tekeytyvä sivusto?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 12.11.2024, 14:02:53
Quote from: Totti on 09.11.2024, 23:46:49
Nyt on selvinnyt, että Khelif todellakin on mies:

https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/medical-report-confirms-algerian-olympic-boxer-imane-khelif-is-genetically-male/

QuoteA confidential medical report accessed by French journalist Djaffar Ait Aoudia disclosed that Khelif has a 5-alpha reductase deficiency, a rare condition typically found in males, leading to the development of internal testicles and an XY chromosome profile.
Hiukan triviaa:Wikipediasta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%CE%B1-Reductase_2_deficiency#Management) selviää, että 5-alfareduktaasin puutossynrooman omaavia hoidetaan kahdella tavalla, mikä riippuu siitä, mikä identiteetti valitaan.

QuoteOne of the most clinically challenging and controversial topics with 46,XY DSD is the practice of "sex assignment" or "sex of rearing".[22] This is especially so in 5αR2D, since most affected individuals have undervirilized genitalia at birth but virilize to varying degrees at puberty. Historically most 5αR2D individuals have been "raised as females",[23] but later reports show that over half of patients who underwent virilizing puberty adopted a male gender identity thus challenging historical practices.[24][25][26]

Tuon mukaan yli puolet syndrooman omaavista valitsee murrosiän jälkeen miehisen identiteetin, vaikka useimpia on kasvatettu tyttöinä.

QuoteFemale sex rearing in 5αR2D individuals involves surgical procedures such as childhood gonadectomy (to prevent virilization at puberty) and vaginoplasty.[15] Life-long hormonal treatments as also required for the development and maintenance of female secondary sex characteristics.[27] Male sex of rearing avoids lifelong hormonal treatments and allows for the potential of fertility.[22] Cryptorchidism and hypospadias must be addressed to prevent damage to the seminiferous tubules that are essential for spermatogenesis and fertility.[28] Some approaches encourage a diagnosis during infancy prior to any gender assignment or surgical interventions.[15]

Eli kun valitaan naisidentiteetti, kivekset poistetaan ja annetaan naishormonia.  Jos valitaan miesidentiteetti, kiveksille muotoillaan pussit vatsaontelon ulkopuolelle. Molemmissa tapauksissa anatomiaa on korjattava, jotta oltaisiin anatomisesti lähempänä valittua sukupuolta.

Oli miten oli, se, että olympialaisten naisten sarjassa voi kilpailla kivekset omaava ja niiden myötävaikutuksella fysiikkansa murrosiästä asti rakentanut, on käsittämätöntä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.11.2024, 16:46:43
Matias  irrottelee.

Quote from: https://x.com/MatiasTurkkila/status/1856306186473046069Matias Turkkila @MatiasTurkkila

Runkkaavan opettajan tapaus kertoo meille paljaassa muodossa vasemmistopolitiikan sekopäisen ytimen. Se menee näin:

- yleispäteviä lakeja ei ole.
- säännöt riippuvat siitä, kenestä on kyse.
- toverituomioistuin päättää TAPAUSKOHTAISESTI, mikä on sallittua ja mikä on kiellettyä.

Sovelletaan:

Jokainen täysjärkinen suomalainen tajuaa, ettei opettajille voi antaa avointa valtakirjaa näyttää oppitunneilla itse tekemäänsä pornoa.

Woke-seonneissa instituutioissa, kuten Yleisradiossa, Koneen säätiössä ja Hesarissa ollaan kahdeksan vuoden aatteellisen marinaation jälkeen päästy levelille, jossa SÄÄNNÖT RIIPPUVAT SIITÄ, KUINKA REPPANA SATTUU OLEMAAN, ja kannattaako woken aatteita vai ei.

Ja niin lavalle nousee nakurampa-projektin Aku Meriläinen. MS-tautia sairastava, muunsukupuolinen ja panseksuaali Meriläinen, joka haastaa "pornon vallitsevaa miehistä katsetta queerin ja antiableismin näkökulmasta sekä moninaistaa käsityksiä vammaisuudesta".

Maksimaaliset reppanapisteet: 100/100.

Meriläinen kyhää kuvataidekasvatuksen kurssin osaksi  maisteritason opintoja. Kurssi perustuu kurssiesitteen mukaan hienolta kuulostavaan "feministiseen pedagogiikkaan", mutta tosiasiassa kyse on pelleilystä, jossa runkataan ja työnnetään esineitä perseeseen.

Touhu on äärimmäisen kiusallista, ja rohkea opiskelija kertoo sekoilusta julkisuuteen. Miten Yleisradio ja HS asiasta uutisoivat?

Ne luonnollisesti vähättelevät opiskelijan paskaa kokemusta uutisoimalla MUIDEN kokemuksista: 

Yle: "Opiskelija kokee, että luennolla näytetyllä pornoteoksella oli yhteiskunnallista painoarvoa"

"Ylen tai opettajien tiedossa ei ole muita opiskelijoita, jotka olisivat kokeneet tilanteen hankalana."

HS: "Pornon näyttämisen jälkeen videosta käytiin keskustelu. Siinä ei noussut esille, että opiskelijat olisivat pitäneet videon näyttämistä sopimattomana, Meriläinen sanoo."

Täysin hampaattomassa jutussaan HS korostaa turvallisen tilan periaatteita.

Helsingin Sanomille turvallinen tila tarkoittaa siis sitä, että opiskelijoiden on katsottava miesopettajan runkkaamista.

Anteeksi vaan, mutta tämä on sairasta ja kusipäistä touhua. Woke on nykyään niin typerää, että päätä särkee.

Ongelma ei edes ole runkkaavassa opettajassa.

Ongelma on mediassa. Itsensä arvojohtajan asemaan nostaneissa Ylessä ja Hesarissa on hukattu kokonaan ymmärrys siitä, mitä tässä yhteiskunnassa voi tehdä ja mitä ei voi tehdä. Nämä mediat kuvittelevat, että suurimmalla uhripisteiden kerryttäjällä on vapaalippu mihin tahansa.

HS ja Yle ovat ympänneet toverituomioistuimen konseptin osaksi toimintaansa. Kaikissa marksilaisissa rakenteissa on aina toverituomioistuin. Niissä yksille sallitaan se, mikä toisilta kielletään. Yleispäteviä sääntöjä ei ole. Lakeja ei ole. On vain keskuskomitean tahto, joka edistää aatetta, keinolla millä hyvänsä.

Kuten niin monta kertaa olen todennut: Yle ja HS ovat seonneet. Ne eivät enää ymmärrä, mikä on järkevää tai järjetöntä. Oikein tai väärin. Journalistista tai poliittista. 

Talot ovat pomoja väärällään, mutta heistä yksikään ei kykene kommunikoimaan alaisilleen, että luokkahuoneet eivät ole opettajien runkkusaleja, ja kirjoittamaan uutisiaan sen mukaisesti.

Sen sijaan Yle horisee: "Selvitimme, miksi pornoa täytyy näyttää opetustilanteessa." 😳

Otaniemi on perinteisesti ollut tieteen ja talouden kaikkein kovinta ydintä. Jos se Helsingin Yliopiston tapaan kontaminoituu sukuelimiään räpläävillä hurupettereillä, ei kannata enää liiaksi haaveilla kansantaloudelle koituvasta lisäarvosta.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20122278?origin=rss
https://hs.fi/pkseutu/art-20
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 12.11.2024, 19:42:25
Quote from: Skeptikko on 12.11.2024, 13:38:44
Quote from: Totti on 09.11.2024, 23:46:49
https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/medical-report-confirms-algerian-olympic-boxer-imane-khelif-is-genetically-male/

Tämä dailytelegraph.co.nz-domain kuulostaa vähän epäilyttävältä. Onko missään tietoa, että onko tämä jokin luotettava uutislähde vaiko joku uutislähteeksi tekeytyvä sivusto?

Googlailemalla löytyy useita sivustoja, jotka uutisoivat samasta asiasta. En sitten tiedä mikä voidaan pitää "luotettavana". Tämän dailytelegraph-sivuston valitsin sattumanvaraisesti, mutta esimerkiksi australialainen News.com.au ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News.com.au ) on myös uutisoinut asiasta ( https://www.news.com.au/sport/boxing/report-claims-olympic-champ-is-a-biological-man-country-quits-boxing-body/news-story/d3fcf764c0290896761f8e8c0230084e )

News.com.au on News Corp Australian omistama, jonka vuorostaan on amerikkalaisen News Corpin omistama ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corp).

Myös saksalainen Bild on julkaissut saman jutun: https://www.bild.de/sport/olympia/olympia-skandal-neue-gutachten-zu-maennlicher-boxerin-imane-khelif-aufgetaucht-6729c460ebdb8724738e8eaf

Hesarin kaltaisilta wokesivustoilta tosin on turha yrittää saada mitään tietoja koska se ei sovi agendaan. Toisaalta ne eivät myöskään ole yritänneet debunkkaa tätä viimeisintä tietoa, joka antaisi ymmärtää että tarina on totta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 12.11.2024, 20:55:31
Quote from: Totti on 12.11.2024, 19:42:25

Myös saksalainen Bild on julkaissut saman jutun: https://www.bild.de/sport/olympia/olympia-skandal-neue-gutachten-zu-maennlicher-boxerin-imane-khelif-aufgetaucht-6729c460ebdb8724738e8eaf

Bildin mukaan Khelifin potilaskertomuksesta käy myös ilmi, että Khelifin vanhemmat ovat mahdollisesti sukulaisia.
QuoteAußerdem in dem Bericht: Die Eltern von Khelif seien möglicherweise blutsverwandt.
Muslimimaiden serkusavioliittojen yleisyys huomioiden moinen ei tietenkään ole mikään sensaatiouutinen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 13.11.2024, 02:44:15
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.11.2024, 13:03:20
Osataaan sitä Suomessakin, vielä toistaiseksi. Wokepornoa Aalto-yliopistossa. Tieteen nimissä. Mukana tietenkin Kone säätiö.

Koneen säätiö rahoitti kohuopettajan projektia 76 000 eurolla – Onlyfans-tilillä peräaukkoon työntyy kesäkurpitsa
https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/9b0f733e-6f83-4507-8243-ee78c36c260b
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Koneen säätiön mukaan Aku Meriläisen projekti on edennyt suunnitelmien mukaan.
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Koneen säätiö myönsi mediataiteilija Aku Meriläisen Nakurampa-projektille 76 000 euron apurahan vuonna 2022, selviää säätiön verkkosivuilta (https://koneensaatio.fi/uutiset/koneen-saatio-myonnot-2022/).

Meriläisen nimi nousi otsikoihin maanantaina, kun Yle uutisoi (https://yle.fi/a/74-20122278) hänen näyttäneen Aalto-yliopiston kurssilla pornovideon, jossa hän harrastaa sooloseksiä.

Koneen säätiön verkkosivuilla kerrotaan, että Meriläinen pyrkii taiteen keinoin moninaistamaan käsityksiä vammaisuudesta ja vammaisten seksuaalisuudesta.

Meriläinen sairastaa MS-tautia, minkä vuoksi hän kutsuu itseään rammaksi. Tästä juontaa myös projektin nimi, Nakurampa.

– Meriläinen haastaa pornografiassa vallitsevaa miehistä katsetta tekemällä online-seksityötä sosiaalisen median alustoilla MS-taudin kanssa elävänä, muunsukupuolisena henkilönä, Koneen Säätiön verkkosivuilla kerrotaan.

Meriläinen julkaisee seksuaalissävytteistä materiaalia Nakurampa-projektin nimellä Onlyfansissa, Instagramissa ja Onlyfansia muistuttavassa verkkopalvelussa Fanslyssä.
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Meriläinen on kiinnittänyt kanavansa ylälaitaan videon, jonka kerrotaan kuvastavan hänen tekemäänsä pornoa.

Viiden minuutin pituisella videolla Meriläinen hyväilee ja tyydyttää itseään pienellä kesäkurpitsalla. Meriläinen nuoleskelee vihannesta hellästi, ennen kuin vetää sen päälle kondomin ja työntää sen peräaukkoonsa. Video päättyy Meriläisen laukeamiseen. Taustalla soi sensuelli musiikki.
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Meriläinen viestitti, että Aalto-yliopiston kurssia koskeviin kysymyksiin vastaa varadekaani Rasmus Vuori.

Valta ja perfomatiivisuus -niminen kurssi, jossa pornoa esitettiin, oli osa kuvataidekasvatuksen syventäviä opintoja.

Ylen (https://yle.fi/a/74-20122278) mukaan opiskelijat saivat halutessaan tulla luennolla myöhässä niin, ettei heidän tarvinnut nähdä videota. Silti ainakin yksi opiskelija koki tilanteen ahdistavana.
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Hän kertoi pornonsa ja tutkimuksensa pyrkimykseksi muuttaa maailmaa entistä turvallisemmaksi ja tasa-arvoisemmaksi.

– Elämme patriarkaatissa, jossa naiset kohtaavat seksuaalista häirintää, ja se on lähestulkoon poikkeuksetta miesten tuottamaa. Se on hirveää, ja osaltaan tutkimus, jota teen, pyrkii muuttamaan sitä, haastamaan mieskatsetta. On harmillista, että tässä on tapahtunut päinvastainen reaktio, Meriläinen sanoi Ylelle.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 13.11.2024, 09:39:25
Pienesti meinas alkaa oksettaa tuota lukiessa. Mietin, että tekisinkö 76 000 eurolla julkisesti omalla nimellä ja naamalla jotain tollasta ja aika nopeasti löytyi vastaus, että en.
Ensin toi 76 000 tuntui isolle rahalla, mutta halvalla kyllä lähtee ihminen tuollaiseen nykypäivänä.
Hetken taas tuntuu, että Maailma on pilalla.
Hyvä kumminkin, että oli mainittu kesäkurpitsan olevan pieni. Minkähän kokoisesta sais täydet 80 000 apurahaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.11.2024, 09:43:46
Quote from: supersankaritar on 13.11.2024, 09:39:25
Hetken taas tuntuu, että Maailma on pilalla.

Joku tätä maailmaa haluaa pilata. Me täällä taas haluamme vähentää sen pilaamista, siis mm. wokettamista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 13.11.2024, 09:49:50
Toi kesäkurpitsa vaan oli se, millä en olis halunnut, että mua lyödään, koska olen vuosia ja vuosia sanonut aina noista woke jutuista puhuttaessa, että varmaan tässäkin maassa joku mies istuu iltaisin kesäkurpitsa perseessä kotonaan eikä vaadi koko maailmaa kumartamaan hänelle sen takia ja jos kertoisi siitä töissä, olisi outo ja nolo.
Näköjään sitten sekin on samaa juhlaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 13.11.2024, 12:59:42
Tuleva puolustusministeri etsii ja tuhoaa jokaisen WOKE-pesäkkeen maan asevoimista. Sanoisin että hän on mini-Doge :)
[tweet]1856550595793961405[/tweet]
[tweet]1856559968436015143[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 13.11.2024, 18:34:53
Kesäkurpitsatapauksesa keskustellaan X:ssä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Saturnalia on 13.11.2024, 19:23:04
Ei kai täällä kukaan ole räyhäimpivaaralainen kiitospaita? ;)
Yleisin syytös kansallismielisiä kohtaan mediassa 2010-luvulla.
Oletko kiitospaita? Hyvä tietää, sinä wokevasemmistolainen. Ettet kiitä. Siitä lähdetään.
Et kai ole Isämmaallinen? :)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 13.11.2024, 19:30:15
Quote from: Saturnalia on 13.11.2024, 19:23:04
Ei kai täällä kukaan ole räyhäimpivaaralainen kiitospaita? ;)
Yleisin syytös kansallismielisiä kohtaan mediassa 2010-luvulla.
Oletko kiitospaita? Hyvä tietää, sinä wokevasemmistolainen. Ettet kiitä. Siitä lähdetään.
Et kai ole Isämmaallinen? :)
Mun on sanottava, etten ole tavannut yhtään huonosti käyttäytyvää ihmistä, jolla olisi ollut kiitospaita päällä. En ainoatakaan. Se on mulle oikein sellainen merkki, että tuo on kohtelias ja ystävällinen ihminen :)  Vähän sama, kuin siniset hiukset joillakin, mutta kertoo vaan eri asiasta :D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 13.11.2024, 19:40:13
Quote from: Skeptikko on 13.11.2024, 02:44:15
Koneen säätiö rahoitti kohuopettajan projektia 76 000 eurolla – Onlyfans-tilillä peräaukkoon työntyy kesäkurpitsa

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/9b0f733e-6f83-4507-8243-ee78c36c260b

Minusta huvittavinta iltksen jutussa oli tämä:

QuoteKoneen säätiöstä kerrotaan, että apurahapäätökset perustuvat tieteen ja taiteen asiantuntijoiden tekemään vertaisarviointiin. Taidehankkeiden kohdalla arviointia tekevät ammattitaiteilijat.

– Luotamme asiantuntijoiden osaamiseen omalla alallaan, Koneen säätiöstä kerrotaan sähköpostitse.

– Aku Meriläisen työryhmän vuonna 2022 tekemä hakemus on todettu arviointivaiheessa niin hyväksi, että arvioija on ehdottanut sitä rahoituksen saajaksi, ja säätiön hallitus on päättänyt myöntää hankkeelle rahoitusta, viesti jatkuu.

LOL ;D "vertaisarviointia"!!

Tarkoittako tämä, että siellä on istunut ringissä "asiantuntijoita" vetelemässä käteen ja dildoamassa itsensä erilaisilla kasviksilla, jotta osaisi päätellä täyttääkö kesäkurpitsaperformanssi "taiteelliset" kriteerit?!

Noh, oli käytännön "vertaisarvointi" millainen tahansa niin "asiantuntijat" ovat joka tapauksessa käyneet läpi "taiteilijan" materiaalin ja todennut sen "hyväksi". Tämä itsessään kertoo mitä täydellisen dekadenttia ja perverssiä jengiä Koneen säätiössä on.

Jos olisin taiteilija kiertäisin Koneen säätiön kaukaa mitä tulee apurahoihin. En haluaisi että nimeni liitettäisiin tähän henkisesti täysin läpimätään porukkaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suupala on 14.11.2024, 09:43:07
Ilmeisesti osa paheksuu ja osa ymmärtää kissantappo+runkkaus ja runkkaus+peräaukontäyttö ulkoisesti taiteellisia performansseja.
Paheksuuko/ymmärtääkö samat porukat myös musulmaanien kaulanirroitusperformansseja vanhassa vuoriston ränsemajassa?
Molemmat videoidaan ja ylpeästi esitellään kaikille halukkaille ja suurelle määrälle haluamattomia...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 14.11.2024, 11:26:28
QuoteKolumni: Kohuopettaja työntää videolla asioita peräaukkoonsa nuorten edessä, mutta Jeesus-musiikki on liikaa – Mitä ihmettä kouluissa tapahtuu?

Sanna Ukkola

Opettaja masturboi videolla oppilaiden edessä, oppikirja kertoo, että mieskin voi synnyttää ja Elokapina esittelee kouluissa toimintaansa – mutta barokkikonsertti perutaan uskonnollisuuden takia, ihmettelee Iltalehden kolumnisti Sanna Ukkola. ...

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/a0a90c72-f685-4e17-a3bf-a643ff6dd5b2 (https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/a0a90c72-f685-4e17-a3bf-a643ff6dd5b2)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 14.11.2024, 12:01:02
Quote from: Uuno Nuivanen on 14.11.2024, 11:26:28
Quote from: Sanna UkkolaOpettaja masturboi videolla oppilaiden edessä, oppikirja kertoo, että mieskin voi synnyttää ja Elokapina esittelee kouluissa toimintaansa – mutta barokkikonsertti perutaan uskonnollisuuden takia, ihmettelee Iltalehden kolumnisti Sanna Ukkola. ...

Ollaan edetty vaiheen 4.

Vaiheessa 6, jos sinne asti mennään,  kaikkien pitää olla transuja ja runkata julkisesti kesäkurpitsa perseessään.

Quote1. First we overlook evil.
2. Then we permit evil.
3. Then we legalize evil.
4. Then we promote evil.
5. Then we celebrate evil.
6. Then we persecute those who still call it evil.
- Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Jos Jeesus haluaisi tulla toisen kerran, niin kohta alkaisi olla hyvä aika.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 14.11.2024, 12:29:11
Quote from: Uuno Nuivanen on 14.11.2024, 11:26:28
QuoteKolumni: Kohuopettaja työntää videolla asioita peräaukkoonsa nuorten edessä, mutta Jeesus-musiikki on liikaa – Mitä ihmettä kouluissa tapahtuu?

Sanna Ukkola

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/a0a90c72-f685-4e17-a3bf-a643ff6dd5b2 (https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/a0a90c72-f685-4e17-a3bf-a643ff6dd5b2)

Ukkolan kiteytys tuo hyvin esiin miten täydellisen bisarriksi tilanne on mennyt.

Yksittäiset vasemmistoliberaalit tempaukset ei ehkä tunnu elämää mullistavilta, mutta kun ne kootaan yhteen Ukkolan tapaan, ilmenee miten meitä keitetään sammakon tapaan hitaasti kuumenevassa vedessä: vasemmistoliberaalit harhat ja perverssiydet ujutetaan sisään yksi kerralla samalla kun kaikki normaali haastetaan.

Pornon esittäminen missä tahansa koulussa olisi minun opieksluaikoinani vienyt opettajan suoraan luentosalista putkaan. Nyt koko mediaeliitti väittää tällaisen sikailun olevan taidetta, jonka "opiskeleminen" on jotenkin välttämätöntä.

Tästä herää tietenkin kysymys millaiseksi taide jatkossa tarkoitus muuttua uuden "taiteilija"-sukupolven myötä. Joskus aikoinaan taiteena pidetiin audiovisuaalisesti miellyttäviä tuotoksia. Jatkossa taidetta lienee erinäisten mielenvikaisten vasemmistoperverssien itsepaljastamisfetissit.

Kunhan vasemmistodekadenssi etenee, lienee vain ajan kysymys kun nämä kesäkurpitsataiteilijat ovat linnan juhlissa esittelemässä tuotoksiaan perinteisen tanssiorkesterin sijaan.

Perverssit vasemmistolaiset siat ja heitä hurraava mediaeliitti voivat harastaa "taidettaan" omalla kustannuksellaan ja ajallaan miten haluaa. Tällainen ei kuitenkinaan kuulu millään lailla verorahoitteisen toiminnan piiriin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 12:45:48
Yksi koki kurssin tarpeellisena. Mä googlasin, minkä näköinen on toi Meriläinen ja mulla on aika hyvä mielikuvitus, niin mä traumatisoiduin jo mielikuvasta. Luulin, ettei kukaan halua nähdä tätä Meriläistä kesäkurpitsaan yhtymässä, mutta väärässä olin jälleen. Se voi olla myös tarpeellista, yhdelle. Joten ei se hukkaan mennyt.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 14.11.2024, 13:04:16
Quote from: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 12:45:48
Yksi koki kurssin tarpeellisena. Mä googlasin, minkä näköinen on toi Meriläinen ja mulla on aika hyvä mielikuvitus, niin mä traumatisoiduin jo mielikuvasta. Luulin, ettei kukaan halua nähdä tätä Meriläistä kesäkurpitsaan yhtymässä, mutta väärässä olin jälleen. Se voi olla myös tarpeellista, yhdelle. Joten ei se hukkaan mennyt.

Nyt sen toisen yhden, joka koki esityksen seksuaalisen häirinnän jatkumona, tulee hakea vähintään 1500 euron korvaus opinahjon suorittamasta seksuaalisesta häirinnästä. Jos ei hae korvausta ja riitauta tätä asiaa, on kesäkurpitsan väärinkäyttäjän puolella.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 14.11.2024, 13:07:09
Siitä taitaa olla jo aikaa kun yliopistoissa opiskeltiin jotain edes puoliksi järkevää.  :facepalm:

Ei tarvitse ihmetellä vaatimattomia sijoituksia maailman yliopistojen rankingissa.

Pahempaa silti on tuo lasten kieroon kasvattaminen väkisin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 13:14:32
Quote from: Emo on 14.11.2024, 13:04:16
Quote from: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 12:45:48
Yksi koki kurssin tarpeellisena. Mä googlasin, minkä näköinen on toi Meriläinen ja mulla on aika hyvä mielikuvitus, niin mä traumatisoiduin jo mielikuvasta. Luulin, ettei kukaan halua nähdä tätä Meriläistä kesäkurpitsaan yhtymässä, mutta väärässä olin jälleen. Se voi olla myös tarpeellista, yhdelle. Joten ei se hukkaan mennyt.

Nyt sen toisen yhden, joka koki esityksen seksuaalisen häirinnän jatkumona, tulee hakea vähintään 1500 euron korvaus opinahjon suorittamasta seksuaalisesta häirinnästä. Jos ei hae korvausta ja riitauta tätä asiaa, on kesäkurpitsan väärinkäyttäjän puolella.
Toi on muuten ihan helvetin loukkaavaa ihmisiä kohtaan, joilla ei ole varaa ruokaan. Nälkämaan lapsia lyötiin kakkaisella kurpitsalla päin näköä. Sairasta. Miks ei kukaan huomio tuota näkökulmaa? Täällä on niin paljon ruokaa, että voidaan tunkea sitä peräsuoleen. Kuka laittaa kilon perunoita sinne? Haaste on heitetty, jään odottamaan. Lisään linkin ohjeeseen, miten hakea koneen säätiön rahoitusta, jos saa tarpeeksi älyttömän idean. Ei kannat toteuttaa hulluuksia ilmaiseksi, vaan ottaa siitä sitten kunnon maksukin. https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 14.11.2024, 13:19:31
"MS-tauti on yleisin nuorten aikuisten liikunta- ja toimintakykyyn vaikuttava keskushermoston sairaus."

Ja tällä perusteella saa niin paljon intersektionaalisia bongoja, että voi valtion ja Koneen sponsoroimana käyttäytyä kuin aivonsa menettänyt apina? Iso mies, saatana!

EDIT: kuva vaihdettu oikeaksi.  :P
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 13:20:27
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 14.11.2024, 13:19:31
"MS-tauti on yleisin nuorten aikuisten liikunta- ja toimintakykyyn vaikuttava keskushermoston sairaus."

Ja tällä perusteella saa niin paljon intersektionaalisia bonjoja, että valtion ja Koneen sponsoroimana voi käyttäytyä kuin mielisairas apina? Iso mies, saatana!
Mä yritin katsoa hänen kuvia eilen ja mun silmään näyttää joka kuvassa ilme sellaiselle, että kurpitsa on paikallaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 14.11.2024, 13:41:36
Onkohan missään ulkomailla uutisoitu vielä tästä masturbointia kesäkurpitsa peräsuolessa -tason opetuksesta? Voisi olla paikallaan levittää tietoisuutta suomalaisen korkeakoulutuksen tasosta. Kenties tämä viis edistää sitä koulutusvientiä ja muuta pöhinää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 15.11.2024, 05:03:13
Poistettu vahingossa nakkisormellani kännykällä aiheuttamani lukitus ketjusta
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 15.11.2024, 07:50:25
Etuoikeuskehän mukainen tulos Kirkkonumella. Etninen Lucia-neidoksi. Mitä mieltä? Ennen Lucia-neidot olivat vain suomenruotsalaisia. Suomalaisissa kunnissa ei Lucia-touhua ennen ollut. Onko väärässä ketjussa?
(Täähän muuten on KRISTILLINEN perinne SANTA LUCIA eli pyhä... joka jostain syystä ei haittaa ketään??? Miksi suvivirsi ja joulu ovat muka ongelma mutta ei tämä??)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 15.11.2024, 08:19:00
Quote from: Skeptikko on 14.11.2024, 13:41:36
Onkohan missään ulkomailla uutisoitu vielä tästä masturbointia kesäkurpitsa peräsuolessa -tason opetuksesta? Voisi olla paikallaan levittää tietoisuutta suomalaisen korkeakoulutuksen tasosta. Kenties tämä viis edistää sitä koulutusvientiä ja muuta pöhinää.

Kävin Aalto-yliopiston sivuilla, enkä löytänyt sen logoa. Onko sillä sellaista?  Jos ei, niin voisiko moisen kyhätä kesäkurpitsa-teeman ympärille?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Herbert on 15.11.2024, 08:44:31
Alkaisikohan woke olla pikku hiljaa oikeasti henkihieverissä, kun AOC:kin alkaa poistaa pronominejaan?

[tweet]1857107492741984723[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 15.11.2024, 09:09:41
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 14.11.2024, 13:19:31
"MS-tauti on yleisin nuorten aikuisten liikunta- ja toimintakykyyn vaikuttava keskushermoston sairaus."

Ja tällä perusteella saa niin paljon intersektionaalisia bongoja, että voi valtion ja Koneen sponsoroimana käyttäytyä kuin aivonsa menettänyt apina? Iso mies, saatana!
Lalli, korjaisitko kuvan. Tämä herra ei ole Aku Meriläinen vaan Aalto-yliopiston rehtori Rasmus Vuori. Oikealla Akulla on siniset (!!) viikset 😄
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.11.2024, 09:19:26
Quote from: Larva on 15.11.2024, 09:09:41
Lalli, korjaisitko kuvan. Tämä herra ei ole Aku Meriläinen vaan Aalto-yliopiston rehtori Rasmus Vuori. Oikealla Akulla on siniset (!!) viikset 😄

Kiitos! Korjattu. Kesäkurpizza pystyyn virheeni merkiksi.  :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 15.11.2024, 09:19:39
Quote from: Larva on 15.11.2024, 09:09:41
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 14.11.2024, 13:19:31
"MS-tauti on yleisin nuorten aikuisten liikunta- ja toimintakykyyn vaikuttava keskushermoston sairaus."

Ja tällä perusteella saa niin paljon intersektionaalisia bongoja, että voi valtion ja Koneen sponsoroimana käyttäytyä kuin aivonsa menettänyt apina? Iso mies, saatana!
Lalli, korjaisitko kuvan. Tämä herra ei ole Aku Meriläinen vaan Aalto-yliopiston rehtori Rasmus Vuori. Oikealla Akulla on siniset (!!) viikset 😄
Mä ihmettelinkin, miksi on eri näköinen tossa yhdessä kuvassa, kun laittaa kuvahaun, tulee niitä missä on erikoiset viikset sekä toi. Oletin, että sama henkilö mutta vanhempi kuva.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 15.11.2024, 09:58:49
Quote from: Herbert on 15.11.2024, 08:44:31
Alkaisikohan woke olla pikku hiljaa oikeasti henkihieverissä, kun AOC:kin alkaa poistaa pronominejaan?

[tweet]1857107492741984723[/tweet]
Hyvä jos näin on. En missään vaiheessa edes ymmärtänyt mitä she/her ja vastaavien ilmoittamisilla edes tarkoitettiin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 15.11.2024, 10:06:53
 :D
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QuoteNew College of Florida offers course in 'Woke' movement (https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2024/11/12/new-college-florida-offers-course-woke-movement/)

For the first time in the school's history, New College is offering a course in "wokeness."

The "Woke" Movement — offered as a one-month independent study in January — paints the movement as "a kind of cult" that's methods are "essentially illiberal" and whose members "are capable of the most dehumanizing behavior," according to the course description emailed to students Sunday evening.
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The class will be led by comedian and conservative commentator Andrew Doyle, an Oxford-trained historian best known for his satirical X persona Titania McGrath, and features readings from activist and New College trustee Christopher Rufo and former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy.
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Doyle's comedy has veered in recent years from smirking parodies of progressive posturing to urgent warnings of social threat posed by "wokeness" during appearances on Tucker Carlson and Jordan B Peterson's podcast.

"More and more people are finding themselves increasingly frustrated and confused by the impact of wokeness on their everyday lives... Good people feel unable to speak their minds for fear of being misinterpreted or mischaracterized, willfully or otherwise," according to the course description.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 15.11.2024, 10:59:14
Quote from: Siili on 15.11.2024, 08:19:00
Kävin Aalto-yliopiston sivuilla, enkä löytänyt sen logoa. Onko sillä sellaista?  Jos ei, niin voisiko moisen kyhätä kesäkurpitsa-teeman ympärille?

Se on nykyään joku varsin sekopäinen kirjain- ja symbolihirvitys, josta on useita versioita: A!, A? Ja A". Muistelen nähneeni nyös jotain missä olisi useita ei-kirjainmerkkejä mukana. Ehkä tuon huutomerkkiversion voisi korvata pystyssä olevalla kesäkurpitsalla, joka työntyy A:han tai joku A🥒.

https://brand.aalto.fi/brand/visual-identity/logo
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The three "A" logomark versions are meant to be used randomly. However, sometimes they can be used purposefully in order to amplify the message at hand. For example, if you are promoting an event where talks are the key content, it's advisable to use the "A" logomark. Or if your communication material is posing a question, it's natural to use version "A?". And when you want to underline the gravity of the message, the "A!" version is the obvious choice.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 15.11.2024, 11:38:07
Valitettavasti merkeistä ei löydy kesäkurpitsaa, mutta munakoiso löytyy ja se on oikeastaan jopa parempi, onhan siinä sana 'muna', vaikkei se ehkä ole tässä seksuaalisuuden muodossa olennaista se muna, mutta tekee asian helpommin tajuttavaksi niille, joille muna on seksissä ykkösprioriteetti.

                                                             🍆

Tuntuu pahalta, että erinomainen (oikein valmistettuna, muuten pahaa) ruoka-aine paskotaan ja leimataan tällä tavalla 🤢
Woke on sairaus.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 15.11.2024, 11:41:28
Quote from: Emo on 15.11.2024, 11:38:07
Tuntuu pahalta, että erinomainen (oikein valmistettuna, muuten pahaa) ruoka-aine paskotaan ja leimataan tällä tavalla 🤢
Woke on sairaus.

Boldaamani, heh. Pun intended. Mitäpä muuta sille tapahtuu jos se työnnetään sinne, minne päivä ei paista...

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 15.11.2024, 13:20:18
Quote from: Caucasian on 15.11.2024, 07:50:25
Etuoikeuskehän mukainen tulos Kirkkonumella. Etninen Lucia-neidoksi. Mitä mieltä? Ennen Lucia-neidot olivat vain suomenruotsalaisia. Suomalaisissa kunnissa ei Lucia-touhua ennen ollut. Onko väärässä ketjussa?
(Täähän muuten on KRISTILLINEN perinne SANTA LUCIA eli pyhä... joka jostain syystä ei haittaa ketään??? Miksi suvivirsi ja joulu ovat muka ongelma mutta ei tämä??)


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Daniela Owusu

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Olen ylpeä saadessani edustaa monikulttuurista Suomea ja haluan olla lapsille esikuva, ja näyttää, että kuka tahansa voi olla Lucia, taustasta, ulkonäöstä ...


Pitäisi olla vielä kehitysmaalainen räpätti niin homma olisi täydellinen.

Lucia Celebration Sweden 2012 - Rap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=317JDjQnoT4

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Circus Hypno on 15.11.2024, 14:03:28
Il esittelee 10 projektia, joihin Koneen Säätiö on upottanut rahaa.


"Sini kosketteli pullataikinaa, sai 47 300 euroa – Näitä erikoisia hankkeita Koneen säätiö on tukenut"

https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/e34d1f39-87ef-4c67-9346-5103bc445838

Näissä merkeissä hyvää viikonloppua!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 15.11.2024, 14:27:12
Tässä projektit.  :facepalm:

Quote7 400 euroa sirkustaiteilija Anniina Peltovaolle ja työryhmälle nykysirkusteos Ammeshow'n (työnimi) työstämiseen. 50 minuutin pituinen, ammeessa tapahtuva show sisältää ihmispyramideja, akrobatiaa ja ilma-akrobatiaa. Teoksen kerrotaan käsittelevän sukupuoleen ja ulkonäköön liittyviä odotuksia ja perinteitä.

47 300 euroa taiteen maisteri Sini Hentun taiteelliseen työskentelyyn. Henttu kartoittaa vieraantumisen kokemusta monimateriaalisessa ajassa. Tämän kerrotaan tapahtuvan monimateriaalisesti, muun muassa pullataikinaa koskettelemalla, videokuvaamalla ihoja ja chattaamalla asiakaspalvelubottien kanssa. Työskentelystä syntyy essee ja neljä yksityisnäyttelyä.

45 600 euroa lavastustaiteen maisteri Lotta Eskon työhön. Hän aikoo muuttaa nykytanssiprojektiensa materiaaleja nykyistä ekologisemmaksi. Tarkoituksena on, että lavastusten materiaalit olisivat maatuvia ja suureksi osaksi myös syötäviä.

5 000 euroa taiteen maisteri Maippi Ketolan residenssipaikkaan Saaren kartanossa. Hän aikoo 60 päivän residenssin aikana kasvattaa partaa ja dokumentoida prosessia. Ketola kertoo pyrkimyksekseen naisten parrakkuuteen liittyvän tabun murskaamisen.

381 000 euroa Itä-Suomen yliopiston apulaisprofessori Elisa Tiilikaisen ja työryhmän tutkimukseen. Hankkeella pyritään tuottamaan uutta tietoa siitä, millaisia kokemuksia iäkkäillä miehillä on ajokortin menettämisestä ja autolla ajamisen lopettamisesta. Tavoitteena on löytää uusia keinoja, joilla miehiä voidaan tukea tässä elämänmuutoksessa.

32 400 euroa kuvataiteilija Ida Palojärven taiteelliseen työskentelyyn havainnoinnin haurauden parissa. Suunnitteilla kerrotaan olevan muun muassa teos, joka voitaisiin asettaa Kaisaniemen kasvitieteellisen puutarhan kasvihuoneeseen. Teos koostuisi käytävälle mustasta hiekasta tehdystä tarkkarajaisesta kuviosta, joka sotkeentuisi ihmisten jaloissa savukoneella tehdyn savun suojissa.

7 500 euroa taiteen maisteri Stefan Klampferin residenssipaikkaan Saaren kartanossa. Hän kertoo tutkailleensa puun taiteellista ja akustista potentiaalia. Tämä tapahtui kävellen kartanon ympäristössä.

83 000 euroa kuvataiteen maisteri Jade Kallion Enter the Void -nimiseen teoskokonaisuuteen. Kallio tarkastelee julkisia käymälöitä tavoitteenaan "tarkastella kehoon ja tiloihin liittyviä merkityksiä ja niiden suhdetta erityisesti vallankäyttöön, kontrolliin, epäpuhtauden-puhtaisiin käsitteisiin, sosiaaliseen osallisuuteen ja poliittisuuteen".

48 600 euroa käsikirjoittaja Hanna-Lenna Köykän ja työryhmän Hunting unicorns -lyhytelokuvaan. Teoksessa tutkitaan yksisarvisilmiötä, monisuhteisuutta ja suostumusta. Elokuvan päähenkilön, Yksisarvisen, kerrotaan olevan sinkkunainen, joka kohtaa treffeillä antagonistinsa, Pariskunnan.

32 400 euroa taiteilija Shiwan Kardon Fur fur fur + vimma -projektiin. Projektissa tutkitaan monikulttuurisuutta ja -muotoisuutta. Taiteilija kertoo kiinnostuksekseen sen, mitä juuret nykyaikana merkitsevät.

:roll:

Näitä on mukava muistella hissimatkan aikana.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.11.2024, 14:33:55
Quote from: Uuno Nuivanen on 15.11.2024, 14:27:12
Tässä projektit.  :facepalm:

Näen jo sieluni silmillä komitean arvottamassa hakuraha-anomuksia niiden kipeyden ja mädättävyyden perusteella.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 16.11.2024, 13:24:07
Mun pitää vähän antaa tuolle vihannesfanaatikolle pisteitä valinnastaan.
Hän on oikea hc-tyyppi. Omistautunut asialleen.  Kesäkurpitsa todistaa sen. Porkkana olisi ollut mamoilua, ja säälittävää pehmoilua. 🤣🤣

Silloin kun pervoillaan, tehdään se kunnolla!

Näin se maailma nyt vissiin makaa..
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Uuno Nuivanen on 16.11.2024, 13:31:33
Eikös joku suositus ollut, että 800 grammaa kasviksia päivässä pitäisi tunkea perseeseen. Vai muistanko jotenkin väärin?  ???
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 16.11.2024, 17:52:12
Näyttää myös Kansan Uutiset ehdottavan palailua woke-hulluudesta takaisin perinteisen työväenliikkeen linjoille. Päätoimittaja Jussi Virkkunen harjoittaa itsekritiikkiä:

QuoteSuomen vasemmistolla on samanlaisia ongelmia kuin Yhdysvaltain demokraateilla. Niihin vastausten keksiminen voi olla vaikeaa, mutta ainakin nyt pitää lopettaa puhe vastavoimana olemisesta, kirjoittaa KU:n päätoimittaja Jussi Virkkunen.

Yksi vastaus voisi piillä siinä, että antaa äärioikeiston puhua höpöjään rauhassa. On aika lopettaa vastavoimana oleminen tai ainakin sen julistaminen. - -
Mikä meitä vaivaa -podcastia pitävät Veikka Lahtinen ja Pontus Purokuru pyysivät Instagram-tilillään vaalien jälkeen kysymyksiä. Yksi kysymys kuului: Miksi vasemmisto ei osaa voittaa äärioikeistoa?

– Jos pitäisi vastata oikein kyynisesti, vastaus varmaan olisi: Vasemmisto on obsessoitunut fasistien osoittelemisesta ja nimeämisestä ja kuvittelee muiden jakavan tämän obsession. Silloin jää huomaamatta, että ihmisiä ei kiinnosta politiikka pennin vertaa, ainoastaan oman elämän ehdot. - -

– Myös Suomessa on tärkeämpää luvata parempaa elämää kuin persut, ei todistaa tuhannetta kertaa, että he ovat rasisteja, kaksikko vastasi.

KU 8.11.2024  (https://www.ku.fi/artikkeli/5082132-yhdysvaltain-vaalit-tarjoavat-vasemmistolle-tarkean-oppitunnin-harvaa-kiinnostaa-aarioikeiston-vastavoimana-oleminen)

Sanoisin, että älkää luovuttako näin helpolla! Vielä paljon on tehtävää seksuaalivähemmistöjen ja saamelaisten aseman parantamiseksi ja turvallisempien tilojen pystyttämisessä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Luotsi on 16.11.2024, 18:23:07
Quote– Myös Suomessa on tärkeämpää luvata parempaa elämää kuin persut, ei todistaa tuhannetta kertaa, että he ovat rasisteja, kaksikko vastasi.

Ja fascisteja, eipäs unohdeta sitä. Mutta minulla olisi aivan uusi ja tuore idea vasureille: ryhtykää solvaamaan perussuomalaisia inhoiksi trumpisteiksi! Se naru varmasti vetää ja saatte paljon ääniä!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 16.11.2024, 21:36:44
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 16.11.2024, 17:52:12
Näyttää myös Kansan Uutiset ehdottavan palailua woke-hulluudesta takaisin perinteisen työväenliikkeen linjoille. Päätoimittaja Jussi Virkkunen harjoittaa itsekritiikkiä:

QuoteSuomen vasemmistolla on samanlaisia ongelmia kuin Yhdysvaltain demokraateilla. Niihin vastausten keksiminen voi olla vaikeaa, mutta ainakin nyt pitää lopettaa puhe vastavoimana olemisesta, kirjoittaa KU:n päätoimittaja Jussi Virkkunen.

Yksi vastaus voisi piillä siinä, että antaa äärioikeiston puhua höpöjään rauhassa. On aika lopettaa vastavoimana oleminen tai ainakin sen julistaminen. - -
Mikä meitä vaivaa -podcastia pitävät Veikka Lahtinen ja Pontus Purokuru pyysivät Instagram-tilillään vaalien jälkeen kysymyksiä. Yksi kysymys kuului: Miksi vasemmisto ei osaa voittaa äärioikeistoa?

– Jos pitäisi vastata oikein kyynisesti, vastaus varmaan olisi: Vasemmisto on obsessoitunut fasistien osoittelemisesta ja nimeämisestä ja kuvittelee muiden jakavan tämän obsession. Silloin jää huomaamatta, että ihmisiä ei kiinnosta politiikka pennin vertaa, ainoastaan oman elämän ehdot. - -

– Myös Suomessa on tärkeämpää luvata parempaa elämää kuin persut, ei todistaa tuhannetta kertaa, että he ovat rasisteja, kaksikko vastasi.

KU 8.11.2024  (https://www.ku.fi/artikkeli/5082132-yhdysvaltain-vaalit-tarjoavat-vasemmistolle-tarkean-oppitunnin-harvaa-kiinnostaa-aarioikeiston-vastavoimana-oleminen)

Sanoisin, että älkää luovuttako näin helpolla! Vielä paljon on tehtävää seksuaalivähemmistöjen ja saamelaisten aseman parantamiseksi ja turvallisempien tilojen pystyttämisessä.
Mutta se toinen ongelma on siinä, että syyttäessään oikeistoa vasemmisto ei ymmärrä autoritaarisia ja totalitaarisia taipumuksia itsessään. Vai kuka oikeasti sananvapautta pyrkii rajoittamaan? Kuka elinkeinoja haluaa rajoittaa? Kuka haluaa valtion rajoittavan ihmisten elämää?

Vasemmistolla oikeasti on opittavaa ja rutosti ajatuksesta, jota vapaudeksi kutsumme!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Nikolas on 16.11.2024, 22:04:20
Quote from: Herbert on 15.11.2024, 08:44:31

Alkaisikohan woke olla pikku hiljaa oikeasti henkihieverissä, kun AOC:kin alkaa poistaa pronominejaan?


Siihen päälle luraus toksista pronominirokkia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PbMo2KrZ28
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jmk on 17.11.2024, 10:34:28
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.11.2024, 14:33:55
Näen jo sieluni silmillä komitean arvottamassa hakuraha-anomuksia niiden kipeyden ja mädättävyyden perusteella.

Mikähän freudilainen tapahtuikaan silmissäni, kun luin "harharaha-anomuksia".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.11.2024, 12:12:48
Quote from: jmk on 17.11.2024, 10:34:28
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.11.2024, 14:33:55
Näen jo sieluni silmillä komitean arvottamassa hakuraha-anomuksia niiden kipeyden ja mädättävyyden perusteella.

Mikähän freudilainen tapahtuikaan silmissäni, kun luin "harharaha-anomuksia".

Niinno, fiat-rahahan on harharahaa.

Ihan pikkuriikkisen pienenä sivupolkuna: internationalistisen salaliittoeliitin maailmanvalloitushan meni niin, että itäiseltä puolelta maailmaa kiellettiin omistusoikeus, ja läntiseltä puoliskolta kiellettiin oikeus rahaan, siis terveeseen sellaiseen (ja välillä kultaankin).

Ja tässä sitä nyt sitten ollaan. Pahoittelen sivupolkuani.  :P
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 17.11.2024, 22:17:36
Quote from: Siili on 09.11.2024, 13:53:51
Scientific American -lehden (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_American) päätoimittaja Laura Helmuth innostui värikkääseen kielenkäyttöön somessa Trumpin voiton jälkeen:
.....

Saa nähdä, voiko Helmuth jatkaa työssään.  Veikkaanpa, että kenkää tulee.

Ei saanut Helmuth virallisesti kenkää, mutta oli ilmeisen pakotettu eroamaan itse:

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/scientific-american-editor-chief-leaves-anti-trump-comments-rcna180400

Arvioisin, ettei kyseessä ole kovin suuri tappio populaaritieteelle. Tuskinpa SciAm palkkaa toista "wokesteria" päätoimittajaksi ainakaan saman tien, joten woke-aatteen voi katsoa (jälleen) kokeneen vastoinkäymisen.

Ilmeisesti jopa liberaalilehdet alkavat olemaan varovaisia suhtautumisessaan aatteen keskeisiin keppihevosiin.  Esimerkiksi Washington Post -lehden pääkirjoitustoimitus meinaa nyt, ettei transnaisilla olekaan niin itsestään selvää oikeutta osallistua naisten kilpaurheiluun:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/11/14/moulton-trans-women-sports/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 18.11.2024, 00:47:14
Quote from: ikuturso on 18.11.2024, 00:15:59
Quote from: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 13:14:32Lisään linkin ohjeeseen, miten hakea koneen säätiön rahoitusta, jos saa tarpeeksi älyttömän idean. Ei kannat toteuttaa hulluuksia ilmaiseksi, vaan ottaa siitä sitten kunnon maksukin. https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/

Hep,
Minäpä olen hakenut Koneen säätiöltä vähän reilua puolta miljoonaa erään yhdistyksen nimissä.

Emme saaneet.

Vaikka laitoin hakemukseen monikulttuurisa, sateenkaaria ja vähemmistöjä niin, että naurettiin silmät kosteina.

-i-
Unohdit vihannekset alateitse nautittuina taiteen nimissä? :D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 18.11.2024, 15:31:53
Quote from: Kek2 on 18.11.2024, 00:47:14
Quote from: ikuturso on 18.11.2024, 00:15:59
Quote from: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 13:14:32Lisään linkin ohjeeseen, miten hakea koneen säätiön rahoitusta, jos saa tarpeeksi älyttömän idean. Ei kannat toteuttaa hulluuksia ilmaiseksi, vaan ottaa siitä sitten kunnon maksukin. https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/

Hep,
Minäpä olen hakenut Koneen säätiöltä vähän reilua puolta miljoonaa erään yhdistyksen nimissä.

Emme saaneet.

Vaikka laitoin hakemukseen monikulttuurisa, sateenkaaria ja vähemmistöjä niin, että naurettiin silmät kosteina.

-i-
Unohdit vihannekset alateitse nautittuina taiteen nimissä? :D
Auttakaas nyt vähän. Onko pullataikinan lääppiminen a) tiedettä b) taidetta c) sekä tiedettä että taidetta d) kulttuurityötä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 18.11.2024, 15:54:28
Quote from: mmm on 18.11.2024, 15:31:53
Quote from: Kek2 on 18.11.2024, 00:47:14
Quote from: ikuturso on 18.11.2024, 00:15:59
Quote from: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 13:14:32Lisään linkin ohjeeseen, miten hakea koneen säätiön rahoitusta, jos saa tarpeeksi älyttömän idean. Ei kannat toteuttaa hulluuksia ilmaiseksi, vaan ottaa siitä sitten kunnon maksukin. https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/ (https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/)

Hep,
Minäpä olen hakenut Koneen säätiöltä vähän reilua puolta miljoonaa erään yhdistyksen nimissä.

Emme saaneet.

Vaikka laitoin hakemukseen monikulttuurisa, sateenkaaria ja vähemmistöjä niin, että naurettiin silmät kosteina.

-i-
Unohdit vihannekset alateitse nautittuina taiteen nimissä? :D
Auttakaas nyt vähän. Onko pullataikinan lääppiminen a) tiedettä b) taidetta c) sekä tiedettä että taidetta d) kulttuurityötä?
Mulle neuvoi miespuolinen ystävä, kun en osannut leipoa pullaa, mutta halusin oppia. Että "Sulta puuttuu vaan maltti. Laitat kaurismäen leffan pyörimään ja lisäät niitä aineita siihen tahtiin, kuin elokuva pyörii. Kun elokuva loppuu, taikina on valmis leivottavaksi." 
Joten sanoisin sen olevan taidetta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 18.11.2024, 16:13:39
Quote from: supersankaritar on 18.11.2024, 15:54:28
Quote from: mmm on 18.11.2024, 15:31:53
Quote from: Kek2 on 18.11.2024, 00:47:14
Quote from: ikuturso on 18.11.2024, 00:15:59
Quote from: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 13:14:32Lisään linkin ohjeeseen, miten hakea koneen säätiön rahoitusta, jos saa tarpeeksi älyttömän idean. Ei kannat toteuttaa hulluuksia ilmaiseksi, vaan ottaa siitä sitten kunnon maksukin. https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/ (https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/)

Hep,
Minäpä olen hakenut Koneen säätiöltä vähän reilua puolta miljoonaa erään yhdistyksen nimissä.

Emme saaneet.

Vaikka laitoin hakemukseen monikulttuurisa, sateenkaaria ja vähemmistöjä niin, että naurettiin silmät kosteina.

-i-
Unohdit vihannekset alateitse nautittuina taiteen nimissä? :D
Auttakaas nyt vähän. Onko pullataikinan lääppiminen a) tiedettä b) taidetta c) sekä tiedettä että taidetta d) kulttuurityötä?
Mulle neuvoi miespuolinen ystävä, kun en osannut leipoa pullaa, mutta halusin oppia. Että "Sulta puuttuu vaan maltti. Laitat kaurismäen leffan pyörimään ja lisäät niitä aineita siihen tahtiin, kuin elokuva pyörii. Kun elokuva loppuu, taikina on valmis leivottavaksi." 
Joten sanoisin sen olevan taidetta.
Saiko se mamma pullatkin aikaseksi niillä kymmenillä tuhansilla mitä sai apurahaa lääppimistä varten?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 18.11.2024, 16:20:10
Quote from: mmm on 18.11.2024, 16:13:39
Quote from: supersankaritar on 18.11.2024, 15:54:28
Quote from: mmm on 18.11.2024, 15:31:53
Quote from: Kek2 on 18.11.2024, 00:47:14
Quote from: ikuturso on 18.11.2024, 00:15:59
Quote from: supersankaritar on 14.11.2024, 13:14:32Lisään linkin ohjeeseen, miten hakea koneen säätiön rahoitusta, jos saa tarpeeksi älyttömän idean. Ei kannat toteuttaa hulluuksia ilmaiseksi, vaan ottaa siitä sitten kunnon maksukin. https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/ (https://koneensaatio.fi/apurahat/apurahanhakijalle/ohjeet-apurahan-hakuun/)

Hep,
Minäpä olen hakenut Koneen säätiöltä vähän reilua puolta miljoonaa erään yhdistyksen nimissä.

Emme saaneet.

Vaikka laitoin hakemukseen monikulttuurisa, sateenkaaria ja vähemmistöjä niin, että naurettiin silmät kosteina.

-i-
Unohdit vihannekset alateitse nautittuina taiteen nimissä? :D
Auttakaas nyt vähän. Onko pullataikinan lääppiminen a) tiedettä b) taidetta c) sekä tiedettä että taidetta d) kulttuurityötä?
Mulle neuvoi miespuolinen ystävä, kun en osannut leipoa pullaa, mutta halusin oppia. Että "Sulta puuttuu vaan maltti. Laitat kaurismäen leffan pyörimään ja lisäät niitä aineita siihen tahtiin, kuin elokuva pyörii. Kun elokuva loppuu, taikina on valmis leivottavaksi." 
Joten sanoisin sen olevan taidetta.
Saiko se mamma pullatkin aikaseksi niillä kymmenillä tuhansilla mitä sai apurahaa lääppimistä varten?
Kyllä mä uskon, että loppuhuipennuksena se taikina paistetaan. Kai siitä saa jatko-osan tarinaan, kun tekee sopivan muotoisia pullia nautittavaksi muuten, kuin syömällä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 18.11.2024, 16:43:35
@supersankaritar ja muut: liiat sisäkkäiset lainaukset pois!  >:(
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: tavallinen jantteri on 18.11.2024, 17:52:32
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 16.11.2024, 17:52:12
Sanoisin, että älkää luovuttako näin helpolla! Vielä paljon on tehtävää seksuaalivähemmistöjen ja saamelaisten aseman parantamiseksi ja turvallisempien tilojen pystyttämisessä.

Ja ennenkaikkea vasemmistolla on vielä ihan liikaa kannatusta että kannattaisi tuoda järkeä toimintaan mukaan!
Päätyyn ja pohjalle vaan, sillä tervehtyminen tuskin tapahtuu ilman totaalista romahdusta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 20.11.2024, 11:42:32
Hämeenlinnan kaupunki on perunut 1500 euron korvauksen maksamisen uskonnottomalle lapselle joka joutui kuulemaan jumalasta kertovia lauluja. Kerrankin taitaa järki voittaa. https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010846243.html (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010846243.html)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 20.11.2024, 11:50:51
Quote from: supersankaritar on 20.11.2024, 11:42:32
Kaupunki on perunut 1500 euron korvauksen maksamisen uskonnottomalle lapselle joka joutui kuulemaan jumalasta kertovia lauluja. Kerrankin taitaa järki voittaa. https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010846243.html

Toisaalta lapsi oli tähän asiaan uskoakseni täysin syytön ja vain pelinappula.
Nyt lapsen mieltä on pahoitettu kohtuuttomasti ja hän on varmasti pettynyt kun ei saanut luvattuja rahojaan.
Kaupunki teki oikein, että perui korvauksen, mutta alkuperäisen päätöksen tehneet pitäisi velvoittaa maksamaan omasta pussistaan rahat lapselle, koska
aiheuttivat lapselle suuren pettymyksen.

Ei lapsi tässä ole mitään pahaa tehnyt, ainostaan typerät aikuiset 8)
Iljettää tällainen lasten hyväksikäyttö.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 20.11.2024, 12:00:33
Quote from: Swen OF Sweden on 20.11.2024, 11:50:51

Nyt lapsen mieltä on pahoitettu kohtuuttomasti ja hän on varmasti pettynyt kun ei saanut luvattuja rahojaan.
Kaupunki teki oikein, että perui korvauksen, mutta alkuperäisen päätöksen tehneet pitäisi velvoittaa maksamaan omasta pussistaan rahat lapselle, koska
aiheuttivat lapselle suuren pettymyksen.


Joo, voi olla, että kohta on äiti kertomassa lehdessä, miten lapsen joulu pilattu, kun luvatut rahat ei tulleetkaan. Mä sain kuvan, että nimenomaan lapsen huoltaja oli se, jota asia eniten pöyristytti, joten ehkä se korvausvastuukin voisi olla ihan tällä huoltajalla? ainakin luki, että huoltaja vaati 1000 euroa korvauksia, mutta yhdenvertaisuus ja tasa-arvolautakunta päätti korottaa summan 1500 euroon.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 20.11.2024, 12:24:22
Quote from: supersankaritar on 20.11.2024, 12:00:33
joten ehkä se korvausvastuukin voisi olla ihan tällä huoltajalla? ainakin luki, että huoltaja vaati 1000 euroa korvauksia, mutta yhdenvertaisuus ja tasa-arvolautakunta päätti korottaa summan 1500 euroon.

Näinkin asiaa voi ajatella, mutta kyllä tämän pettymyksen on lapselle aiheuttanut juuri tuo yhdenvertaisuus ja tasa-arvolautakunta tärähtäneisyydellään ja minun silmissä heidät pitäisi asettaa henkilökohtaiseen vastuuseen lapselle aiheutetusta pettymyksestä.
Myös kaunpungin viranomaiset pitää asettaa henkilökohtaiseen vastuuseen, ei lapsen mieltä pidä riepotella tuolla tavalla, oli huoltaja sitten kuinka typerä tahansa.

Päätöksen tekijöillä pitää olla vastuu tekemisistään.

Kyllä lapsi on ollut tässä pelinappula ja viranomaiset vielä pahentaneet lapsen asemaa.
Tämä on niin ilmiselvä väärinkäytös lasta kohtaan, että ihmettelen, jos toimittajat eivät ota tätä puolta asiassa esiin ja kritisoi viranomaisia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 20.11.2024, 12:27:27
Quote from: Swen OF Sweden on 20.11.2024, 12:24:22


Päätöksen tekijöillä pitää olla vastuu tekemisistään.


Totta kyllä tämäkin, kun olivat niin innokkaina maksamassa, niin maksaisivat sitten.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 20.11.2024, 12:56:53
Tarkoitan sitä, että tässä oli pelinappulana lapsi, joka varmasti kärsi tästä prosessista
oikeasti ja tuskallisesti, mutta ei lainkaan, mistään Jeesus-laulun kuuntelemisesta 8)

Häpeisivät!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jmk on 20.11.2024, 17:09:01
Quote from: Swen OF Sweden on 20.11.2024, 11:50:51
Kaupunki teki oikein, että perui korvauksen, mutta alkuperäisen päätöksen tehneet pitäisi velvoittaa maksamaan omasta pussistaan rahat lapselle, koska aiheuttivat lapselle suuren pettymyksen.

Tämän lisäksi heidät (jotka tekivät idioottimaisen päätöksen maksaa 1500 euroa) tulee velvoittaa maksamaan toiset 1500 euroa kaupungin veronmaksajille korvaukseksi siitä, että veronmaksajat olivat vähällä joutua aiheettomasti maksumiehiksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suupala on 20.11.2024, 19:16:56
En jaksa ymmärtää, miten lapsen luullaan olevan semmoinen tuuliviiri, joka vaihtaa uskoaan jokaisen kuulemansa laulun tai saarnan perusteella.
Tai kuinka aikuiselle on mahdottomuus istua paikoillaan katsomassa jumalanpalvelusta, muhamettilaisten rukoushetkeä, juutalaisten synagogan tooran lukemista, joulupukkinäytelmää...
Jos joku on sellainen tuuliviiri, että vaihtaa aina uskontoa heti moisia nähdessään ja kuullessaan kuuluu kyllä lukkojen taa vahvaan lääkitykseen!
Itse olen Valamon luostarin hartaushetkessä ollut häiritsemättä, ja omaa uskoa vaihtamatta. Samoin kuinka voi ateistille jumalanpalveluksen näkeminen olla kamaluus, eikö se ole kuin ilmainen teatteriesitys josta voi päätään puistellen suurempaa numeroa tekemättä poistua ihmettelemään itsekseen kuinka joku voi moiseen hurahtaa.
Ainakin minä otan kaikki kuninkaallisten kruunajaiset, ortodoksien piispanasettajaiset, katolisten paavin valinnat sun muut jotka ei minua liikuta ilmaisina performansseina!!
Helvettiäkö niiden näkemisestä kenellekään mitään maksamaan, ennemmin kolehti keräämään noilta ammattiloukkaantujilta!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 20.11.2024, 21:35:42
Quote from: Suupala on 20.11.2024, 19:16:56
En jaksa ymmärtää, miten lapsen luullaan olevan semmoinen tuuliviiri, joka vaihtaa uskoaan jokaisen kuulemansa laulun tai saarnan perusteella.
Tai kuinka aikuiselle on mahdottomuus istua paikoillaan katsomassa jumalanpalvelusta, muhamettilaisten rukoushetkeä, juutalaisten synagogan tooran lukemista, joulupukkinäytelmää...
Jos joku on sellainen tuuliviiri, että vaihtaa aina uskontoa heti moisia nähdessään ja kuullessaan kuuluu kyllä lukkojen taa vahvaan lääkitykseen!
Itse olen Valamon luostarin hartaushetkessä ollut häiritsemättä, ja omaa uskoa vaihtamatta. Samoin kuinka voi ateistille jumalanpalveluksen näkeminen olla kamaluus, eikö se ole kuin ilmainen teatteriesitys josta voi päätään puistellen suurempaa numeroa tekemättä poistua ihmettelemään itsekseen kuinka joku voi moiseen hurahtaa.
Ainakin minä otan kaikki kuninkaallisten kruunajaiset, ortodoksien piispanasettajaiset, katolisten paavin valinnat sun muut jotka ei minua liikuta ilmaisina performansseina!!
Helvettiäkö niiden näkemisestä kenellekään mitään maksamaan, ennemmin kolehti keräämään noilta ammattiloukkaantujilta!
Sinä päätät itse omista osallistumisistasi, näissä on kyse siitä että päätetään muiden puolesta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kapseli on 21.11.2024, 05:24:50
Vaikka lapset ovatkin yllättävän vastaanottavaisia niin tuskin satunnainen altistuminen uskonnollisille elementeille, sikäli kun ne osana kulttuuriperintöä on, kenellekään suurta traumaa aiheuttaa. Uskonnon opetus kouluissa taas voi (vieläkin) ilmeisesti hyvin. Oma lapsemme tuli uskoon pari vuotta sitten uskonnon opetuksen alettua alakoulussa. Ihmettelimme, että vieläkö siellä opetetaan vanhankantaisesti fiktiota totena. Meillä meni hetki "kotiopettaa" häntä elämänkatsomuksesta ja muistutella toden ja uskomuksen välisestä suhteesta. Ei taida enää olla uskossa vaan on eheytynyt toivottavasti normaaliksi kyseenalaistavaksi ihmisaluksi. Toki hänelle jätettiin optio uskoa mihin haluaa kunhan ymmärtää realiteetit.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suupala on 21.11.2024, 08:06:51
Quote from: Kek2 on 20.11.2024, 21:35:42
Sinä päätät itse omista osallistumisistasi, näissä on kyse siitä että päätetään muiden puolesta.
Kuten muiden puolesta päätetään antaa rahaa Suomen rajojen ulkopuolelle, ja se raha kerätään minulta pakolla veroina?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 21.11.2024, 09:35:14
Quote from: supersankaritar on 20.11.2024, 12:00:33
Joo, voi olla, että kohta on äiti kertomassa lehdessä, miten lapsen joulu pilattu, kun luvatut rahat ei tulleetkaan. Mä sain kuvan, että nimenomaan lapsen huoltaja oli se, jota asia eniten pöyristytti, joten ehkä se korvausvastuukin voisi olla ihan tällä huoltajalla? ainakin luki, että huoltaja vaati 1000 euroa korvauksia, mutta yhdenvertaisuus ja tasa-arvolautakunta päätti korottaa summan 1500 euroon.

Niin, otsikot sanovat: "Kuka maksaa lapsen Temu-laskun? Koko perheen Thaimaan-loma joudutaan perumaan ja matkatoimisto ei maksa kaikkea takaisin"...

Nykyiset lautakunnat kunnissa ovat pelkkä vitsi. Virkamiehet ovat oppineet käsittelemään lautakuntia. Mistään ei enää äänestetä. Tuodaan esityksiä: "joo, tää on nyt näin, jos me ei päätetä, se tulee kunnalle tosi kalliix kun lakimies on sanonut"...  Ja kun virkamies sanoo sanan "lakimies", kukaan ei uskalla kiistää päätöstä. Eivätkä ymmärrä, mitä tarkoittaa pöydättäminen tai valmisteluun palautus. Kaikki päätökset pitää tehdä heti nyt ja tässä ja vittumaisimmat asiat tuodaan "lisäpykälänä kokoukseen".

Tuohon pitäisi saada lakimuutos, että ressukka luottamusmiehiä ei voisi noin hyväksikäyttää. Ja naiskiintiöillä pidetään viimeistään huoli siitä, että lautakunta on puolillaan hymyileviä lampaita, joiden mielestä on tärkeää, että virkamiehet, joita he ovat itse olleet valitsemassa, ovat hyvin taitavia ja näiden esityksiä ei tule kyseenalaistaa.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 21.11.2024, 10:00:28
Quote from: Suupala on 21.11.2024, 08:06:51
Quote from: Kek2 on 20.11.2024, 21:35:42
Sinä päätät itse omista osallistumisistasi, näissä on kyse siitä että päätetään muiden puolesta.
Kuten muiden puolesta päätetään antaa rahaa Suomen rajojen ulkopuolelle, ja se raha kerätään minulta pakolla veroina?
Ei liity asiaan mitenkään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 21.11.2024, 15:01:11
Tässä on mielenkiintoinen juttu: Z sukupolvi uskoo wokeiston olevan rumille ihmisille. Jutussa pohditaan, että onko woke menossa nuorten keskuudessa pois muodista Mitä kuvia mieleen tulee, kun kuulee sanan woke? Omituisen väriset ja rumasti leikatut hiukset, joko liian laiha ja lihakseton, eläinperäisestä ravinnosta kieltäytyvä tai täysin pois kuosista, sairaalloisen ylipainoinen ja laiska hedonisti. Pukeutuu vaatteisiin, joita muut ei käyttäisi, kuin halloweenina, häntä ei erota mieheksi tai naiseksi paljain silmin ja heillä on harhaluuloja, että voivat siirtyä sukupuolesta toiseen. Hän välittää siitä, että hänestä käytetään mieleisiään pronomineja, ahdistus ja synkkyyden ilmapiiri seuraa häntä kuin varjo, heidän uhrimentaliteettinsa viestittää ympäristölle, että sinun on parasta käyttäytyä kunnolla, ettei sinua syytetä viharikoksista.


Vuonna 2018 kaksi tiedejulkaisua kertoi, että konservatiivit ovat kauniimpia, kuin liberaalit. Tässä arvellaan sen johtuvan siitä, että naisen näköiset naiset ja miehen näköiset miehet ovat houkuttelevamman näköisiä, kuin nuo woket. Tutkijat ovat havainneet amerikassa vaaleilla valituilla republikaaninaisilla enemmän naisellisia kasvonpiirteitä, kuin demokraattinaisilla.


Tämä on kiinnostava kohta: Tutkimusten mukaan jopa koneoppimisohjelmistot, joiden väitetään tekevän päätöksiä oikeiden ihmisten tekemien mallinnosten perusteella, pitävät konservatiivisia naisia onnellisempina ja kauniimpina, kuin liberaaleja, vaikka näillä tekoälychateilla on taipumus kallistua vasemmalle.


Lisäksi liberaalit naiset kertovat olevansa vähemmän tyytyväisiä mielenterveyteensä ja elämäänsä, kuin konservatiiviset naiset.

Tässä arvellaan heilurin heilahtaneen liian pitkälle ja monet z sukupolviset ovat siksi tulleet tyytymättömiksi wokeen. https://medium.com/the-savanna-post/gen-z-believes-wokeism-is-only-for-ugly-people-are-they-right-159407ebf519
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suupala on 21.11.2024, 20:26:06
Quote from: Kek2 on 21.11.2024, 10:00:28
Ei liity asiaan mitenkään.

Entä jos keskustelen kadulla ja sanon huomisesta tulevan kaunis päivä, ja vastapuoli sanoo: "Insallah" eli muhamettien jos allah suo?
Voinko vaatia minulle vieraan uskonnon harjoittajalta hänen tuputtamastaan uskonnollisesta yllättäen tulevasta tuputuksesta rahaa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 21.11.2024, 20:32:30
Täällä muutes kulkee yksi musta mies ja ääntelee jotakin undulaatin kuuloista ääntä, nythän mä vasta tajusin, että se saattaa liittyä hänen uskontoonsa :( Ja joillain on jopa päässään rättejä, jotka liittyy uskontoon. Kuka korvaa, kun näen sellaisen? Näköaisti on yhtä arvokas, kuin kuuloaisti. Jos ei jopa arvokkaampi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 22.11.2024, 00:42:25
Quote from: Kek2 on 21.11.2024, 10:00:28
Quote from: Suupala on 21.11.2024, 08:06:51
Quote from: Kek2 on 20.11.2024, 21:35:42Sinä päätät itse omista osallistumisistasi, näissä on kyse siitä että päätetään muiden puolesta.
Kuten muiden puolesta päätetään antaa rahaa Suomen rajojen ulkopuolelle, ja se raha kerätään minulta pakolla veroina?
Ei liity asiaan mitenkään.

Liittyy asiaan kaikin tavoin.

Kumpi on suurempi ihmisoikeusrikos, se että kuulet uskonnollisia viitteitä sisältävän laulun, vai se, että sinulta kerätään jokaisesta ansaitsemastasi eurosta suorat ja välilliset verot ja niillä rahoilla ei vahingossakaan tuoteta edes riittäviä terveyspalveluja omalle kansalle tai muuta sinua hyödyttävää,  vaan ne kipataan ulkomaiden kankkuloiden kaivoihin?

Miksi sellaisen, joka ei usko wokeen, pitää rahottaa wokea?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 22.11.2024, 06:21:59
Quote from: Emo on 22.11.2024, 00:42:25
Quote from: Kek2 on 21.11.2024, 10:00:28
Quote from: Suupala on 21.11.2024, 08:06:51
Quote from: Kek2 on 20.11.2024, 21:35:42Sinä päätät itse omista osallistumisistasi, näissä on kyse siitä että päätetään muiden puolesta.
Kuten muiden puolesta päätetään antaa rahaa Suomen rajojen ulkopuolelle, ja se raha kerätään minulta pakolla veroina?
Ei liity asiaan mitenkään.

Liittyy asiaan kaikin tavoin.

Kumpi on suurempi ihmisoikeusrikos, se että kuulet uskonnollisia viitteitä sisältävän laulun, vai se, että sinulta kerätään jokaisesta ansaitsemastasi eurosta suorat ja välilliset verot ja niillä rahoilla ei vahingossakaan tuoteta edes riittäviä terveyspalveluja omalle kansalle tai muuta sinua hyödyttävää,  vaan ne kipataan ulkomaiden kankkuloiden kaivoihin?

Miksi sellaisen, joka ei usko wokeen, pitää rahottaa wokea?
No ei tietenkään liity. Voihan sitä överiksi joka asiassa, "onks toi pahempi kuin murha, vai?".  Woke on paskaa, ja uskonnonharjoitukseen pakottaminen on väärin. Ja ei, klassisen musiikin kuuntelu ei ole uskonnonharjoitusta ja siitä ei pidä maksaa mitään korvauksia.

Eri asioista voi keskustella ihan erikseen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2024, 12:07:25
Masentaako woketus, vai wokettaako masennus? (Podimo on maksullinen.)

[tweet]1859838790292079109[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2024, 15:26:32
^ Do conservatives really have an advantage in mental health? An examination of measurement invariance
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sjop.13065
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Tunkki on 22.11.2024, 15:33:16
^^Heikelä&Koskelo julkaisevat youtubessa ilmaista kamaa oliko 4pv/vk. Välillä tulee aamukahveet keitettyä ja ryystettyä 23-minuuttia kuunnellen
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 22.11.2024, 17:22:26
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.11.2024, 15:26:32
^ Do conservatives really have an advantage in mental health? An examination of measurement invariance
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/sjop.13065

Vai voisiko mielenterveyden häiriöt lopulta johtaa vasemmistolaisiin aate/ajatusmalleihin?
Niin kovin normaalista elämästä vieraantuneita nuo koohoilut ovat.
Jokatapauksessa; muna-kana dilemma. Lopputuloksen kannalta ei sinänsä merkitystä, mutta ehkä tuokin joskus selviää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 22.11.2024, 18:11:37
Vihervasemmistolaisuus on uskonto. Siihen kuuluu jyrkkä ehdottomuus, vihollisten etsiminen ja vahva tunne siitä, että on itse oikeassa ja ajaa hyvää asiaa. Kuitenkin vihervasemmistolaisuus ajaa monia asioita, jotka ovat yhteiskunnalle tuhoisia ja täysin järjen- ja luonnonvastaisia. Se ei tee vihervasemmistolaisista itsestäänkään onnellisia.

Mielenterveyden häiriöt tulevat juuri tästä ristiriidasta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 22.11.2024, 18:31:55
Totta töriset, Betonikostaja. Uskovaisen kanssa ei neuvotella eikä uskovaisen päätä käännetä ilkeillä , kylmillä faktoilla ja/tai todisteilla!
Kerran uskoon tultuaan ei moista hyökkäysvaunua pysäytä (juurikaan) mikään ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 22.11.2024, 21:45:39
Quote from: Tunkki on 22.11.2024, 15:33:16
^^Heikelä&Koskelo julkaisevat youtubessa ilmaista kamaa oliko 4pv/vk. Välillä tulee aamukahveet keitettyä ja ryystettyä 23-minuuttia kuunnellen
Se on ihan hyvä show, mutta Heikelä ei pääse koskaan minulta pakoon itse aiheuttamaansa miespissis imagoa Radio Rockin ajoilta, johon kuului mm. Halla-aholle irvailu, koska rasisti, fasisti, basisti... tulipas taas ikävä Ruukinmatruunaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kapseli on 22.11.2024, 23:28:43
Piti ihan alkaa pohtimaan tuntemiani ihmisiä ja heidän taustojaan. Täytyy kyllä todeta, että ihmisillä, jotka ahdistuivat paljon koronasta (me kuollaan kaikki), ränttäävät ilmastonmuutoksesta (taas kuollaan kaikki), ovat intohimoisia aakkosmafiaa kohtaan, ja/tai ovat ksenofiilejä (koska pulleamahaiset lapset, siksi raavaat partasuut Suomeen) niin heillä toden totta on reilusti enemmän taustaa mielenterveysongelmista. Enpä oikeastaan edes näin äkkiseltään tiedä ystäväpiiristäni sellaisia, jotka olisivat mielenterveyden kanssa vaikeuksissa ja "konservatiiveja". Ei minulla oikeastaan ole sellaisia konservatiiviystäviä sanan varsinaisessa merkityksessä vaan tavallisia järkeviä tyyppejä. Ja nämä mielenterveyshaasteiset ovat sitten kaksisuuntaisia, masentuneita tai muuten vain kausittain alakuloisia. Eivät heistä kaikki omaa mitään diagnosoituja mielenterveysongelmia, mutta ovat useammin taipuvaisia sellaiseen oireiluun.

Voin omalta osaltani kyllä pitää tuota tutkimusta uskottavana.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 23.11.2024, 00:54:24
Jaguar. :facepalm:

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 23.11.2024, 22:35:46
Kittiläläinen poliitikko Akseli Erkkilä on kirjoittanut x:n tililään, että kävi Setan koulutuksessa, joka oli suunnattu opetusalan henkilöstölle.
Siellä oli sanottu, että KAIKESSA opetuksessa tulee näkyä sateenkaari ideologia. "matematiikan tunnillakin tulisi laskea homolaskuja" Ja jos tytöt kokee ongelmaksi sen, että tytöiksi itsensä kokevat pojat haluaa heidän pukuhuoneeseen, syy on tietenkin näissä oikeissa tytöissä ja he tarvitsevat koulutusta. https://x.com/AkseliErkkila/status/1860394422577287667

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.11.2024, 22:51:37
SETA hajottaa lapsia.

Quote from: https://x.com/AkseliErkkila/status/1860394422577287667Akseli Erkkilä @AkseliErkkila

Osallistuin vastikään SETAn järjestämään koulutukseen, joka oli suunnattu - huomatkaa - opetusalan henkilöstölle. Siis opettajille. Osallistua saivat myös muut kiinnostuneet, joihin toki lukeuduin. Tälle kurssille pääsi Revontuli-opiston kautta.

Täytyy sanoa, että jos kaikki vanhemmat kävisivät katsomassa, millaista myyräntyötä SETAn annetaan kaikessa rauhassa tehdä ja millaista roskaa yritetään ja osin onnistutaan koulujärjestelmään syöttämään.

Ihan perusjuttuahan tietysti ovat valeet useista sukupuolista, naiset miehiä ja miehet naisia jne. Mutta melko karmealta kuulostaa se, kuinka SETA opettaa, että sateenkaari-ideologia tulee näkyä KAIKESSA opetuksessa. Aivan, matematiikan tunnillakin pitäisi laskea homolaskuja, mitä se ikinä tarkoittaakaan.

Kysyin koulutuksen aikana kaksi kysymystä. Ensiksi tuli aiheeksi vessa- ja pukuhuonepolitiikka, jos ryhmässä on "transnuoria". Kysyin, miten toimitaan siinä tapauksessa, jos transtyttö, siis poika joka esiintyy tyttönä, kokee erinomaisen tärkeäksi saada pukeutua tyttöjen pukuhuoneessa, ja ns. "cis-tytöt", eli siis oikeat tytöt, kokevat olonsa sen takia turvattomaksi.

SETAn asiantuntijakouluttajan mukaan vika oli tietyst näissä oikeissa tytöissä, ja HE tarvitsevat koulutusta ja heiltä pitää kysyä, että mikäs ongelma teillä nyt on asian kanssa!

Toinen kysymykseni koski sitä, miten tulee toimia, mikäli koulussa nuori oirehtii selkeästi tätä "sukupuolidysforiaa" ja häntä täytyy jo kutsua jollain keksityllä vastakkaisen sukupuolen nimellä, mutta käy ilmi, että vanhemmat eivät tätä tiedä. SETAn mukaan vanhemmille ei pidä asiasta kertoa. Toisin sanoen opettajan pitäisi salata vanhemmilta näiden rakkaan lapsen terveyttä koskevia tietoja, ja antaa lapsen muhia häneen mahdollisesti vaikuttavien internet-yhteyksien ja "transyhteisön" liemessä.

Tuollaiselle järjestölle ei kuulu pennin jeniä veronmaksajien tukea. Ja jokaiselle joka tuo SETAlaiset tai näiden materiaalin kouluun tai tunneille, kuuluisi varoitus ja toiselta kertaa potkut.

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- Uskomatonta, että tälläinen paska sallitaan!

- Eikä ainoastaan sallita, vaan rahoitetaan ja ykköspoliitikot taapertavat noiden viirien perässä ja ottavat selfieitä joka kesäkuu.

- Helvetin esikartanosta tuo touhu. Itse vastustan setaa kaikkialla ja lakkauttaisin sen välittömästi. Ja vaatisin vastuuseen nuorten mielenterveyden pilaamisesta.

- Kouluihin ei saisi tuoda näitä ideologioita lainkaan, ei tietääkseni kuulu opetussuunnitelmaan. Alaikäiset lapset pitää ehdottomasti jättää rauhaan, ovat kehittyvässä herkässä iässä sekä alttiita ideologioiden syötölle.
Nyt pitää opetushallituksen puuttua tähän järjettömyyteen.

- Setan saamilla rahoilla tehtäisiin aika paljon hyvää, jos ne ohjattaisiin lasten ja nuorten mielenterveyspalveluihin näiden woke-ideologioiden sijaan‼️
Rahoittamalla Setaa ei korjata ongelmia, vaan luodaan ongelmia
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Swen OF Sweden on 24.11.2024, 18:13:40
Miten olisi mahtanut käydä, jos valkoinen mies olisi lavastanut samanlaisen tilanteen ja
avustajana toimineet valkoiset olisivat käyttäneet ruskeaa väriä? :o
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 25.11.2024, 14:43:51
"11-vuotiaalle olisi jo aika saada pornokasvatusta".

"Kuinka syvälle kullin saa suuhun?"

https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010857360.html

Ylä-asteiden opetusohjelmaan ja niiden kirjastoihin kuuluva perusteos kovassa käytössä Suomen kouluissa.

QuoteYläkouluikäisille nuorille suunnattu seksiopas on pöyristyttänyt sosiaalisessa mediassa. Se on herättänyt kiivasta keskustelua viestipalvelu X:ssä.

Kyseessä on ruotsalaisen kirjailijan ja seksuaalikouluttajan Inti Chavez Perezin teos Respektiä – Seksikirja pojille (Gummerus). Opuksen ensimmäinen versio julkaistiin jo vuonna 2010, suomeksi se käännettiin vuonna 2019.

Kirjassa puhutaan varsin suorasukaisesti "vehkeistä, flirttailusta, suostumisesta ja kieltäytymisestä, nautinnosta sekä varsinaisesta muhinoinnista". Teoksen sivuilta löytyy muun muassa ohjeita "hyvän kalukuvan" ottamiseen, ensimmäiseen anaaliyhdyntään ja "kullin imemiseen". Yksi teoksen väliotsikoista kuuluu: "Kuinka kullin saa syvälle suuhun."
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 25.11.2024, 15:06:34
Vasemmistolaiset pedofiilit tunkee seksiä lapsille. Moiset saastakirjat paperinkeräykseen ja kengänkuvaa takalistoon niille jotka kirjat lapsien ulottuville saattoivat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 25.11.2024, 16:38:48
Tää on taas niin kamalaa, että en olis halunnut edes tietää. Toivon todella, että joku kieltää lapsensa osallistumisen tuollaiseen ja haastaa oikeuteen nuo ihmiset.
Lapsi vaurioituu kuullessaan uskonnollisen laulun, mutta tuollaisen miettiminen tekee vaan hyvää?

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 25.11.2024, 16:50:28
Kommenttiosiossa nainentre sanoo, että on se hienoa, että pojatkin lukevat kirjoja. Hellyyttä ja huumoria on täynnä se. Ja tämä vain yksityiskohta, mistä haloo nousi (ns. yksittäistapaus-kohta?)...

Hän kertoo, että kirja on ollut kouluilla jo 4-6 vuotta. (Tarkistin julkaisupäivän 16.1.2019) Ja nyt vasta haloo, miksi?

Tämähän kertoo siitä, että kun kuulet Jeesuksesta, voit saman tien kirjoittaa yleisönosastoon ja olet sankari, joka otti esiin hirvittävän aivopesevän epäkohdan. Mutta kun kuulet kullinimemisestä koulussa oppitunnilla kirjasta, niin jos kitiset, olet peräkammaripoika ja juntti.

Kuinkahan moni opettaja on itse kyennyt tuon kirjan lukemaan ja lukenut, ennen kuin antaa sen 11-12-vuotiaalle käteen? Herra isä sentään, vaikka seiskaluokkalainen on mielestään aikuinen ja voisi saada ajokortin, niin ihan pilttejähän ne vielä ovat.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 25.11.2024, 17:51:50
^ Tubessa on lukuisia videoita kun joku vanhempi menee koululautakunnan eteen lukemaan katkelmia noista wokeopuksista vaatien poistamaan ne kouluista. Lautakunnan jäsenet alkavat kiljua "Tuo on sopimatonta. Lopeta" ja kutsuvat vahtimestarit heittämään vanhemman ulos.

Eli teksti on liian härskiä aikuisten kuultavaksi. Mutta wokettajien mukaan sopii hyvin lapsille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.11.2024, 23:56:01
Arvatkaa huviksenne mitä kirjoja silloin joskus rovioitiin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Naikkone on 26.11.2024, 10:47:09
Quote from: Swen OF Sweden on 20.11.2024, 12:56:53
Tarkoitan sitä, että tässä oli pelinappulana lapsi, joka varmasti kärsi tästä prosessista
oikeasti ja tuskallisesti, mutta ei lainkaan, mistään Jeesus-laulun kuuntelemisesta 8)

Häpeisivät!
Niin tässähän ei ole ollut kyse mistään Jeesus laulun traumatisoituneesta lapsesta vaan siitä että koulu on toiminut väärin useasti.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Naikkone on 26.11.2024, 10:53:01
Tosiaan jos jossain niin täällä olisi kuvitellut että uskonnonvapaus ja syrjintä asiat olisi kohdillaan, mutta täällä lyödään lyttyyn meidät jotka lapsiaan kasvattaa ilman krisuja. Kiitos vaan kaikille kauniista sanoista ei mahda mitään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.11.2024, 11:00:27
Quote from: Naikkone on 26.11.2024, 10:53:01
Tosiaan jos jossain niin täällä olisi kuvitellut että ...

Hyvä @Naikkone  :),

Ei ehkä kannata ajatella asiaa siten, että Hommassa ollaan yhtenäistä käkimassaa, jossa kaikilla on samat mielipiteet kaikesta, tai edes yhtään mistään. Mielipiteiden kirjo on Homman vahvuus. Jokainen seisoo vain omien mielipiteidensä takana.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Naikkone on 26.11.2024, 11:03:41
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.11.2024, 11:00:27
Quote from: Naikkone on 26.11.2024, 10:53:01
Tosiaan jos jossain niin täällä olisi kuvitellut että ...

Hyvä @Naikkone  :),

Ei ehkä kannata ajatella asiaa siten, että Hommassa ollaan yhtenäistä käkimassaa, jossa kaikilla on samat mielipiteet kaikesta. Mielipiteiden kirjo on Homman vahvuus. Jokainen seisoo vain omien mielipiteidensä takana.
Pyrin siihen että en ajattele niin.
Kiitos.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 26.11.2024, 11:05:59
Quote from: Kek2 on 25.11.2024, 15:06:34
Vasemmistolaiset pedofiilit tunkee seksiä lapsille. Moiset saastakirjat paperinkeräykseen ja kengänkuvaa takalistoon niille jotka kirjat lapsien ulottuville saattoivat.

Kai sinäkin haluat kasvattaa lapsista suvaitsevaisia ja syrjimättömiä? Näin sitä yritetään tehdä.........

Moira Greyland kertoo hyväksikäyttäjävanhemmistaan (eivät aivan rivipulliaisia, tunnettuja nimiä scifi/fantasiapiireissä)

My observation of my father and mother's actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited.  Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become "who they really are." It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other "isms."  If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be "normal" and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish.  As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as "straight culture" goes the way of the dinosaur.  As my mother used to say: "Children are brainwashed into believing they don't want sex."

https://askthebigot.com/2015/07/23/the-story-of-moira-greyland-guest-post/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley


Idean läheisin teoreettinen isä on käsittääkseni Wilhelm Reich.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Naikkone on 26.11.2024, 11:08:41
Mutta tää menee todella tunteisiin, on niin paljon vuosia kun joutuu vääntää näistä yksinkertaisista asioista koulun kanssa. Opetushallitus on ohjeistanut ja parantanut vuosien varrella. mutta koulut sössii selkeät ohjeet ja sitten ihmetellään, itsekin olen joutunut aviin tekemään kanteluita kun ei mene jakeluun. Nyt onneksi on hyvä tilanne toki vuosien taiston jälkeen.
No tästä puuttui lainaus johon vastasin 😁 anteeksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Naikkone on 26.11.2024, 11:19:50
Ja sen vielä lisään että Jeesus kohussa ei ole kyse Jeesus kohusta vaan siitä että tämä kyseinen koulu on toiminut väärin ja jatkanut toimiansa väärin huomautuksesta huolimatta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 26.11.2024, 11:30:00
Quote from: Miniluv on 26.11.2024, 11:05:59
Quote from: Kek2 on 25.11.2024, 15:06:34
Vasemmistolaiset pedofiilit tunkee seksiä lapsille. Moiset saastakirjat paperinkeräykseen ja kengänkuvaa takalistoon niille jotka kirjat lapsien ulottuville saattoivat.

Kai sinäkin haluat kasvattaa lapsista suvaitsevaisia ja syrjimättömiä? Näin sitä yritetään tehdä.........

Moira Greyland kertoo hyväksikäyttäjävanhemmistaan (eivät aivan rivipulliaisia, tunnettuja nimiä scifi/fantasiapiireissä)

My observation of my father and mother's actual belief is this: since everyone is naturally gay, it is the straight establishment that makes everyone hung up and therefore limited.  Sex early will make people willing to have sex with everyone, which will bring about the utopia while eliminating homophobia and helping people become "who they really are." It will also destroy the hated nuclear family with its paternalism, sexism, ageism (yes, for pedophiles, that is a thing) and all other "isms."  If enough children are sexualized young enough, gayness will suddenly be "normal" and accepted by everyone, and the old fashioned notions about fidelity will vanish.  As sex is integrated as a natural part of every single relationship, the barriers between people will vanish, and the utopia will appear, as "straight culture" goes the way of the dinosaur.  As my mother used to say: "Children are brainwashed into believing they don't want sex."

https://askthebigot.com/2015/07/23/the-story-of-moira-greyland-guest-post/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Zimmer_Bradley


Idean läheisin teoreettinen isä on käsittääkseni Wilhelm Reich.
Sosialismi, etenkin marxismi on ollut kiinnostunut lasten seksualisoinnista ja pedofiliasta jo satakunta vuotta. Sitä perää tämäkin sairas kirja lienee, ainakin se kouluihin laittaminen.

Kirja oli siis yksi sadan kirjan paketista. Mitähän muuta siitä paketista löytyy? Oliko tämä vain pintaraapaisu, mene ja tiedä.

Jos joku jaksaa, niin voisi etsiä Lukuklaani-paketin sisältämät kirjat, jos ne ovat netistä löydettävissä. Itse en lyhyellä etsinnällä löytänyt.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 26.11.2024, 11:30:35
Quote from: Kek2 on 25.11.2024, 15:06:34
Vasemmistolaiset pedofiilit tunkee seksiä lapsille.

Lasten seksualisoiminen on jo pitkään ollut vasemmiston agendalla, ei vaan sen takia, että vasemmistossa runsaana vellovat pedofiilit saisivat lisää uhreja, vaan sen takia, että se on osa vasemmiston pyrkimystä ajaa länsimainen yhteiskunta alas.

Lasten seksualisoiminen voi äkkiseltään vaikuttaa liioittelulta, mutta esim. rikollisuus on pitkälti lapsena saatujen moraaliarvojen oppimista. Erinomainen esimerkki tästä ovat mustalaiset, joiden lapset ovat mukana varkausreissuilla jo lapsena. Lapsena opittu käyttäytymismalli jää voimaan ja aikuisina jatketaan kierrettä. Lopulta koko yhteisö on jonkinlaisen rikoskierteen piirissä.

Tämä toimii myös seksin suhteen. Jos lapsille tyrkytetään pornoa peruskouluissa, se normalisoituu ja lapsista tulee helposti irstaita ja harkitsemattomia seksin suhteen. Kynnys päätyä esim. prostituutioon madaltuu kun siinä ei nähdä moraalisia ongelmia.

Väitän, että nykynaisten OnlyFans buumi, jossa levitellään itsensä netissä, on tällaisen liberaalin seksikasvatuksen tuotoksia. Sopii miettiä miten tämä vaikuttaa esim. parisuhdemarkkinoihin. Kuinka moni mies haluaa nettihuoran vaimokseen?

Rikollisuus ja seksi ei ole ainoita vasemmiston hankkeita ajaa yhteiskunta kriisiin. Huumetyrkytys kuuluu tähän samaan agendaan. Juuri vassarit pyrkivät normalisoimaan huumeiden käytön mm. legalisoimalla kannabis, vaatimalla pikkityshuoneita ja selittämällä huumekäytön sairaudeksi, jonka yhteiskunta pitää hoitaa.

En kuitenkaan sano, että ihmisten seksielämää pitäisi erityisesti rajoittaa. Kysymys on lähinnä siitä, pitääkö irstailua kauppaa virallisten institution puitteissa hyväuskoisille lapsille. On nimittäin täysin eria asia jos lapsi katsoo salaa pornosivuja kun se, että luokassa opetellaan miten imuhommia pitäisi harjoitella banaanilla.

Lapsi ymmärtää aina jollain tasolla oman vastuunsa kun tekee jotain salaa ja kiellettyä. Jos koulussa kauppataan samoja asioita opetuksen puitteissa, asia ikään kun virallistuu ja moraaliset dilemmat häviävät. Vanhempien kiellot käytännössä mitätöityvät, jos koulu kumoaa ne härskillä prono-opetuksella.

Ei pidä sitten ihmetellä jos lapset eivät osaa varoa nettipedareita kun koulussa oikein esiteltiin miten namusetiä suikkeloidaan. :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Mäyräkoira on 26.11.2024, 14:28:16
QuoteLasten seksualisoiminen on jo pitkään ollut vasemmiston agendalla, ei vaan sen takia, että vasemmistossa runsaana vellovat pedofiilit saisivat lisää uhreja, vaan sen takia, että se on osa vasemmiston pyrkimystä ajaa länsimainen yhteiskunta alas.

Tässäpä se onkin kaikki pähkinänkuoressa.
Koko woke ja kaikki uusvasemmiston touhut. Tämä ihmisen psykologia on kyllä mielenkiintoinen. On kyllä outoa, että populaatiosta osa aina päättää käyttäytyä oikofobisesti. Tai siis itsestä se on outoa, noille kai se on aivan normaalia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Saturnalia on 27.11.2024, 15:51:56
Olen ottanut pari lasillista, ja ajattelen hiukan ääneen jos suotte. Nykyisellä vasemmistolla on pakkomielle seksualisoida kaikki. Omassa lapsuudessani Itä-Helsingissä 70-luvulla kaikkeen tungettiin luokka-ajattelu, mikä taas on kadonnut nykyajasta. Nykyvasemmisto näkee sukupuolen identiteettinä, ei biologisena tosiasiana mitä se on. Välillä puolileikilläni siirrän ajatusleikkinä nykyisen wokeajattelun 70-luvulla pinnalla olleen työetiikan ja työidentiteettien kyseenalaistamisen osastolle, tulee hauskaa settiä. Toisin kuin sukupuoli joka on biologinen tosiasia, työidentiteettihän on lähinnä vain eräänlainen kulttuurinen kangastus. Ei biologinen fakta.

Jos yksilö voi vapaasti päättää identiteettinsä eikä oman identiteetin tarvitse olla yhtä edes oman biologian kanssa, niin jokainen työtönhän voi päättää olevansa toimitusjohtaja, ja jokaisen tulee kunnioitttaa sitä, etenkin työvoimatoimiston, vuokranantajien ja vastaavien. Työtön voi siis valita työidentiteettinsä vapaasti. Nykyään valdemedian kaavakkeissa lukee olet mies, nainen vaiko muu?, niin tämä tulee siirtää työidentiteettien alueelle totta kai vähintään myöskin. Oletko töissä, eläkeläinen, työtön, vaiko muu? Ruksaa sopiva. Jos nyt oikeita vallankumouksellisia ollaan olevinaan. Miten Kela aikoo toimia tämän kanssa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 27.11.2024, 16:59:40
Quote from: Totti on 26.11.2024, 11:30:35

Rikollisuus ja seksi ei ole ainoita vasemmiston hankkeita ajaa yhteiskunta kriisiin. Huumetyrkytys kuuluu tähän samaan agendaan. Juuri vassarit pyrkivät normalisoimaan huumeiden käytön mm. legalisoimalla kannabis, vaatimalla pikkityshuoneita ja selittämällä huumekäytön sairaudeksi, jonka yhteiskunta pitää hoitaa.

Kyllä minäkin haluan laillistaa kannabiksen, ja toivon ettei piikittelijät piikittelisi rappukäytävissä ja leikkipuistoissa. Sitä en tiedä auttavatko käyttöhuoneet ongelmaan, mutta ei tolkullisempaan huumausainepolitiikkaan vasureiden jäsenkirjaa tarvita.

edit: Tämmönenkin oli tänään:

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DEI-teemat (diversity, equality, inclusion) eli monimuotoisuus, tasa-arvo ja osallistaminen ovat nousseet viime vuosina yritysten agendalle.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 27.11.2024, 20:35:16
Quote from: Totti on 26.11.2024, 11:30:35

Väitän, että nykynaisten OnlyFans buumi, jossa levitellään itsensä netissä, on tällaisen liberaalin seksikasvatuksen tuotoksia. Sopii miettiä miten tämä vaikuttaa esim. parisuhdemarkkinoihin. Kuinka moni mies haluaa nettihuoran vaimokseen?


Tämä on kyllä oikein incel-miehen käsikirjan 101. Mitä eroa niillä perseiden levittelyillä on että tehdäänkö ne OnlyFanssin, Instagramin, Homman vai X:n kautta? Kaikissa somealustoissahan myydään itseään (tai jotain muuta). Joku myy sukkia OF:ssa sekopäille, en näe siinä kauheasti harmia.

OF on aikansa tuote. Tyhmät ihmiset haluavat tirkistellä kauniita ihmisiä eikä ilmainen nettiporno enää riitä.

Sinäkin luultavasti esittelisit itseäsi jos joku maksaisi siitä 50 000€ kuukaudessa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.11.2024, 20:51:35
Quote from: Velkku on 27.11.2024, 20:35:16
Sinäkin luultavasti esittelisit itseäsi jos joku maksaisi siitä 50 000€ kuukaudessa.

Halvalla menisi.

Heh. Kun tämä asia tuli ajankohtaiseksi silloin kun minulla olisi ollut myytävää/ostettavaa markkina-arvo-persettä, niin hinta olisi pitänyt olla sellainen, että sillä olisi pitänyt pärjätä loppuelämä ulkomailla. Valitsin ekonomin uran, enkä katunut.

Kaikilla on hintansa. Ikävää vaan, että se hinta on etenkin poliitikoilla on niin alhainen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Quote from: Velkku on 27.11.2024, 20:35:16
Quote from: Totti on 26.11.2024, 11:30:35
Väitän, että nykynaisten OnlyFans buumi, jossa levitellään itsensä netissä, on tällaisen liberaalin seksikasvatuksen tuotoksia. Sopii miettiä miten tämä vaikuttaa esim. parisuhdemarkkinoihin. Kuinka moni mies haluaa nettihuoran vaimokseen?

Tämä on kyllä oikein incel-miehen käsikirjan 101. Mitä eroa niillä perseiden levittelyillä on että tehdäänkö ne OnlyFanssin, Instagramin, Homman vai X:n kautta?

OnlyFans on ihan eri media, jonka nimenomainen käyttötarkoitus oli luoda omapornoa nettiin. Noissa muissa ei juurikaan julkista pornoa näy, etenkään Hommassa.

Jos siis on OF:ssä, se kertoo jo aika paljon henkilön ajattelumaailmasta ihan riippumatta mitä siellä esittelee.

QuoteJoku myy sukkia OF:ssa sekopäille, en näe siinä kauheasti harmia.

Varsinaiset sukkakaupat lienevät harvinaisia OF:ssä. Käytetyt sukat, pikkarit ja rintsikat, joita siellä myydään ovat fetissikäyttöön. Siis erinäisten seksuaalisten fantasioiden tyydyttämiseen. Olen aika varma, että asiakaskunta on pääasiassa näitä samoja rillithuurussa-vassareita, jotka levittelevät pornokirjoja kouluihin.

Uskoisin kuitenkin että väitteni nettihuorista pitää paikkansa. Siis se, että nainen, joka sanoo pyörittävänsä OnlyFans-sivua lienee hyvin heikoilla parisuhdemarkkinoilla ihan riippumatta kauppaako hän rasiaa vai sukkaa.

On toki olemassa erinäisiä vasemmistolaisia cukoldeja, jotka mielellään jakavat vaimonsa muiden kanssa ties missä kun oma libido on jo kaukana menneisyydessä. Perhettä harkitsevat miehet eivät kuitenkaan haluaa edes virtuaalista kiertopalkintoa muijaksi.

QuoteSinäkin luultavasti esittelisit itseäsi jos joku maksaisi siitä 50 000€ kuukaudessa.

Minulla on sen verran varallisuutta, että en edes harkitsisi moista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 27.11.2024, 21:40:29
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.11.2024, 21:10:36
Myisitkö @Velkku persettäsi kaikkien nähtäväksi esim. 50 000€ per satsi? Jos et, mikä olisi hintasi?

Kerro sinä nykyinen huoraushintasi, niin kerron mitä pidin omana huoraushintanani sille, että olisin alkanut myymään persettä ennen AIDS -aikaa.

Kaikilla on hintansa. Useimmat meistä eivät vain tajua sitä.

Jos joku minulle maksaa kikkelikuvista tuon 50 000€/kk niin siinähän se.

Tuskin alkaisin fyysisesti itseäni myymään, siinä on jo ihan eri luokan ongelmat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 28.11.2024, 00:21:17
Quote from: Velkku on 27.11.2024, 21:40:29
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 27.11.2024, 21:10:36
Myisitkö @Velkku persettäsi kaikkien nähtäväksi esim. 50 000€ per satsi? Jos et, mikä olisi hintasi?

Kerro sinä nykyinen huoraushintasi, niin kerron mitä pidin omana huoraushintanani sille, että olisin alkanut myymään persettä ennen AIDS -aikaa.

Kaikilla on hintansa. Useimmat meistä eivät vain tajua sitä.

Jos joku minulle maksaa kikkelikuvista tuon 50 000€/kk niin siinähän se.

Tuskin alkaisin fyysisesti itseäni myymään, siinä on jo ihan eri luokan ongelmat.

Onko sinulla kouluikäisiä lapsia?  Itse isänä pohtisin kikkelikuvieni myymistä sen vuoksi. Jos ei olisi lapsia, niin en näkisi ongelmaa, kuin vain sen, että arvostan itseäni rahaa enemmän.

Siis jos olet lapseton. Itse en haluaisi lastenlastenkaan tulevaisuudessa törmäävät isoisin kikkelikuviin.

Arvovalinnat maksavat rahaa, mutta säästävät ihmisarvoa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 28.11.2024, 00:42:40
Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Quote from: Velkku on 27.11.2024, 20:35:16
Quote from: Totti on 26.11.2024, 11:30:35
Väitän, että nykynaisten OnlyFans buumi, jossa levitellään itsensä netissä, on tällaisen liberaalin seksikasvatuksen tuotoksia. Sopii miettiä miten tämä vaikuttaa esim. parisuhdemarkkinoihin. Kuinka moni mies haluaa nettihuoran vaimokseen?

Tämä on kyllä oikein incel-miehen käsikirjan 101. Mitä eroa niillä perseiden levittelyillä on että tehdäänkö ne OnlyFanssin, Instagramin, Homman vai X:n kautta?

OnlyFans on ihan eri media, jonka nimenomainen käyttötarkoitus oli luoda omapornoa nettiin. Noissa muissa ei juurikaan julkista pornoa näy, etenkään Hommassa.

Jos siis on OF:ssä, se kertoo jo aika paljon henkilön ajattelumaailmasta ihan riippumatta mitä siellä esittelee.
No mitä se henkilöstä sitten kertoo?

Pari pohtimisen arvoista asiaa.

Se itsestään selvempi, eli olisiko toimijoiden määrä suhteessa väkilukuun ollut sama kuin nyt, jos vaikkapa 80-luvulla olisi ollut samanlainen mahdollisuus tuottaa sisältöä kuin nyt?

Toiseksi, ajat muuttuvat, ja ihmisten suhtautuminen eri asioihin muuttuvat siinä sivussa.Vierastan ajatusta, jonka mukaan ihmiset myyvät pornoa ja oheissälää netissä ainoastaan jonkin ulkopuolisen aatteen tai dogmin vaikutuksesta, mutta en voi olla olematta kanssasi osittain samaa mieltä.

Iltapäivälehdistön uutisointia seuranneena minulle on jäänyt sellainen käsitys, että toosan myyminen on kauppaa siinä käytettyjen vanteidenkin. Sekään ei lähtökohtaisesti kenties ole hyvä tai huono asia, kunhan yksilö on itse tilanteen tasalla, ja tietää mitä on tekemässä. Valitettavasti olen uutisoinnin pohjalta jäänyt sellaiseen käsitykseen, että rahan ansainta noilla markkinoilla ei ole mitenkään tavatonta teini-ikäisten keskuudessa, ja silloin ollaan menty jossain metsään.

Pidän yhtenä selityksenä ihmisten henkistä ja älyllistä taantumista, mikä juontaa juurensa koululaitokseen, mediaan, ja holhoavaan valtioon. Osaamista ja itsetuntoa ei vahvisteta haasteilla, koska kaikki ovat ihan hyviä, eikä kukaan saa olla ketään parempi, ettei kenellekään tule paha mieli.  Ja jos joku leikkisi kanssani assosiaatioleikkiä ja sanoisi koululaitos, vastaisin refleksinomaisesti woke.

Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Varsinaiset sukkakaupat lienevät harvinaisia OF:ssä. Käytetyt sukat, pikkarit ja rintsikat, joita siellä myydään ovat fetissikäyttöön. Siis erinäisten seksuaalisten fantasioiden tyydyttämiseen. Olen aika varma, että asiakaskunta on pääasiassa näitä samoja rillithuurussa-vassareita, jotka levittelevät pornokirjoja kouluihin.

Tolkulliset seksuaalivähemmistöön kuuluvat ihmiset eivät ole erityisen innoissaan wokesta, koska se vesittää seksuaalisen tasa-arvoisuuden ja homoseksuaalisuuden hyväksymisen eteen tehtyä työtä, ja kinkyilijänä jaan tämän tuntemuksen täysin. Lisäksi, omasta seksuaalisuudesta vouhottaminen, ja sen fanaattinen tyrkyttäminen muille
on mielestäni kompensaatiomekanismi, jolla yritetään käsitellä jostain johtuvaa sisäistä pahaa oloa tai avuttomuutta, vallankäyttökeino, egotrippi.

Päällekkäisyyttä tuntuisi silti olevan, ja veikkaan että se osin selittyy sillä, että tämä "rillithuurussa" -jengi on saanut mediatilan hallintaansa, jolloin kaikki näyttäytyy mahdollisimman perverssinä ja mieluiten sateenkaaren väreissä. Ja medianhan saa hallintaansa ainoastaan poliittisella myötävaikutuksella, jolloin katse siirtyy vasemmalle.

Mutta itseänikin kovasti kiinnostaa median vääristymän ulkopuolelle jäävä osuus. Miksi meillä on pornoa koulussa, miten tähän pisteeseen on tultu, minkä tahon myötävaikutuksella, ja mitkä ovat motiivit taustalla.

Seksuaalivähemmistöjen osalta jenkkien tapauksessa poliittista jakaumaa valottanee tänä vuonna ilmestynyt kirja
The Politics of Perverts The Political Attitudes and Actions of Non-Traditional Sexual Minorities
mutta sen sisältö on arvoitus. Nykypäivänä sen voisi ehkä saada kirjastosta käsiin kohtuullisen nopeastikin, sikäli kun kirjojen lainaaminen kuuluu vielä kirjastojen tehtäviin, eivätkä kirjat ole väistyneet dildojen ja sateenkaarilippujen tieltä aivan kokonaan.

https://nyupress.org/9781479822744/the-politics-of-perverts/ (https://nyupress.org/9781479822744/the-politics-of-perverts/)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Herbert on 28.11.2024, 06:54:29
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 08:26:20
Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
OnlyFans on ihan eri media, jonka nimenomainen käyttötarkoitus oli luoda omapornoa nettiin. Noissa muissa ei juurikaan julkista pornoa näy, etenkään Hommassa.

X on ihan täynnä pornoa. Elonia jopa erikseen pyydettiin ettei poista sitä kun osti koko roskan. Ei näytä poistaneen.

Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Jos siis on OF:ssä, se kertoo jo aika paljon henkilön ajattelumaailmasta ihan riippumatta mitä siellä esittelee.

No tämä nyt toki kertoo sinun ajatusmaailmastasi, ei välttämättä muiden. Jotkut esittelee siellä persettään ja joku pistää vaimonsa piiloon uskonnon nimissä ja käy tuikkaamassa toisten vaimoja. Meitä on moneen jonoon.


Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Varsinaiset sukkakaupat lienevät harvinaisia OF:ssä. Käytetyt sukat, pikkarit ja rintsikat, joita siellä myydään ovat fetissikäyttöön. Siis erinäisten seksuaalisten fantasioiden tyydyttämiseen. Olen aika varma, että asiakaskunta on pääasiassa näitä samoja rillithuurussa-vassareita, jotka levittelevät pornokirjoja kouluihin.

Eiköhän ne todennäköisemmin ole niitä incel-poikia, jotka haukkuvat naisia huoriksi eivätkä alastomia naisia nää muualla kuin ruudulla.

Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Uskoisin kuitenkin että väitteni nettihuorista pitää paikkansa. Siis se, että nainen, joka sanoo pyörittävänsä OnlyFans-sivua lienee hyvin heikoilla parisuhdemarkkinoilla ihan riippumatta kauppaako hän rasiaa vai sukkaa.

Miten käytettyjen sukkien myyminen tyhmille tekisi jonkun markkina-asemasta heikon  :D Sehän on vaan helvetin fiksua jos joku likaisista sukista maksaaa.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.11.2024, 08:54:24
Poistoon.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 28.11.2024, 08:54:44
Quote from: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 08:26:20Eiköhän ne todennäköisemmin ole niitä incel-poikia, jotka haukkuvat naisia huoriksi eivätkä alastomia naisia nää muualla kuin ruudulla.

Ihanan traditionaalinen ajattelutapa sinulla. Miehen arvon mitta on seksin saaminen  :-*  Tätähän Laasanenkin aina sanoi!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 09:08:50
Quote from: Miniluv on 28.11.2024, 08:54:44

Ihanan traditionaalinen ajattelutapa sinulla. Miehen arvon mitta on seksin saaminen  :-*  Tätähän Laasanenkin aina sanoi!

Ei tietenkään ole kenenkään arvon mitta tuollainen. Miten tuosta sellaisen käsityksen sait? Se lienee vain todennäköistä että tuntemattomien naisien pikkuhousuja ja sukkia ostaa ehkä henkilöt jotka eivät naisten kanssa kauheasti tekemisissä ole. Toki varmasti muutkin, ja senkun ostavat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.11.2024, 09:09:41
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.11.2024, 23:56:01
Arvatkaa huviksenne mitä kirjoja silloin joskus rovioitiin.

YLEn aamussa keskusteltiin kirjasta. Kukaan kolmesta siantuntijasta ei tuominnut kirjaa, vaan olivat enemmänkin sitä mieltä, anaaliyhdyntää on ihan hyvä opettaa alaikäisille. Eikä niitä porno-opetussivuja kirjassa kuulemma kovin montaakaan ole.

Voihan muna.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 28.11.2024, 10:16:50
^ Syrjäsilmällä kuuntelin tuota. Ensimmäinen oli sitä mieltä, 'ne' kohdat voi jättää lukematta. Miksi meillä oli porno- ja väkivaltasensuuri videoelokuvissa - ne kohdathan voi kelata yli. Toinen oli sitä mieltä, että pöyristyjät voisivat miettiä mikä heissä itsessään on vikana kun pöyristyvät. Kolmas höpötti jotain, että seksuaalikasvatus on tärkeää. Ei ihme, jos syntyvyys laskee tulevaisuudessakin. Poikien välisen huilun- ja haitarinsoiton opettaminen kun on nykyään sitä seksuaalikasvatusta.

Olipahan yle tuttuun tapaansa kerännyt joukon wokettajia sivistämään Suomen kansaa. Ei yhtään täysjärkistä sattunut studioon. Taaskaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 10:25:26
Alakouluikäiset pelailee nykyään GTA:ta ja vastaavia missä voi napata huoran kadulta, hakata ja viedä rahat tai ampua toiselta pään tohjoksi. Samaan aikaan vanhemmat on huolissaan kun kirjassa puhutaan kullista ja suihinotosta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 28.11.2024, 10:37:47
Quote from: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 10:25:26
Alakouluikäiset pelailee nykyään GTA:ta ja vastaavia missä voi napata huoran kadulta, hakata ja viedä rahat tai ampua toiselta pään tohjoksi.

Syy on vanhemmissa.

Quote from: Velkku
Samaan aikaan vanhemmat on huolissaan kun kirjassa puhutaan kullista ja suihinotosta.

Aivan oikein ovat tästä huolissaan jos ovat vähänkään normaalit vanhemmat. Tuo ja kaikki muu lgbtq++, ilmastopanikointi ym. aivopesu pitäisi poistaa kouluista täysin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 28.11.2024, 11:09:16
Quote from: mmm on 28.11.2024, 00:42:40
Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Jos siis on OF:ssä, se kertoo jo aika paljon henkilön ajattelumaailmasta ihan riippumatta mitä siellä esittelee.

No mitä se henkilöstä sitten kertoo?

Elämme edelleen yhteiskunnassa, jossa itseään julkisesti levittelevät ei pideä kovin korkeassa arvossa. Yhteiskuntamoraali on kaikesta vapautuneisuudesta huolimatta siis vielä sellainen, että eräs raja kunniallisen ja kunniattoman henkilön välillä menee irstailun tasossa. Kun näin on, itseään netissä levittelevällä on selvästi moraalinen kompassi hukassa.

Sen lisäksi se tietenkin kertoo erinomaisen honosta harkintakyvystä. Nainen, joka levittelee itsensä netissä 2-kymppisenä tuskin ymmärtää, että muutaman vuoden päästä hänen aika ramppivaloissa on ohi ja pitäisi alkaa rakentamaan elämää. Siinä vaiheessa on surkutella löysää mainettaan kun miehet eivät enää pidä arvossa.

QuoteToiseksi, ajat muuttuvat, ja ihmisten suhtautuminen eri asioihin muuttuvat siinä sivussa.Vierastan ajatusta, jonka mukaan ihmiset myyvät pornoa ja oheissälää netissä ainoastaan jonkin ulkopuolisen aatteen tai dogmin vaikutuksesta, mutta en voi olla olematta kanssasi osittain samaa mieltä.

Ajat eli moraalikäsitys muuttuu koska se muutetaan. Juuri se, että yläasteikäisille tyrkytetään härskiä pornoa mm. madaltaa kynnystä asiattomaan seksikokeiluihin. Kyseessä oleva kirja on ilmeisesti puhunut mm. joukkoraiskauksen kiihottavuudesta*) ( https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/44cc6f9c-2a43-437d-8143-51e7abcb588e ). Minkä käsityksen 12-vuotias saa joukkoraiskuksista, jos se pyritään normalisoimaan ja selittäämään kouluissa?

Tämä seksin eri muotojen ja seksin harrastamisen normalisointi on ollut meneillään jo pitkään, jonka takia seksuaalimoraali on myös muuttunut liberaalimpaan suuntaan.

Seksin ja seksuaalisuuden liberalisointi ei ole sinänsä huono asia. Emme halua pouritaanista islamilaista yhteiskuntaa, jossa aikuiset ihmiset eivät pysty toteuttamaan itsensä.

Mutta, ja kuten aina kun vasemmiston kultuurimarxistit ovat vauhdissa, asiat menevetä täysin överiksi ja mm. koulujen seksivalistus on siirtynyt alueelle, jossa opetellaan aikuisten härskejä fetissejä kuten nyrkkinaintia ja raiskausfantasioita varhaisteineille.

Tällainen seksiopetus on jo kirkkaasti alueella, jota nuori henkilö ei osaa henkisesti navigoida ja erottaa normaalin seksin ja sen löytäminen performatiivisistä ja jopa vaarallisista fetisseistä.

*) Ilmeisesti kyseinen kohta on otettu mukaan normalisoimaan juuri muslimien harrastamia joukkoraiskauksia, jotka kirjan kotimaassa Ruotsissa ovat arkipäivää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Saturnalia on 28.11.2024, 11:15:34
Quote from: aged on 28.11.2024, 10:16:50
^ Syrjäsilmällä kuuntelin tuota. Ensimmäinen oli sitä mieltä, 'ne' kohdat voi jättää lukematta.

Jostain ihmeen syystä tämä periaate katoaa jonnekin, kun kyse on vaikkapa amerikkalaisesta tai suomalaisesta ns. vastamediasta taikka Venäjän median näkyvyydestä ns. lännessä.

Nehän voi jättää lukematta, jos ei nappaa. Hämmästyttää kyllä tämä kulttuurikommunistien viha konservatiivisia arvoja sekä valkoisuutta kohtaan, se on niin mielipuolista, sillä ei saavuteta mitään, se on vain tuhoa tuhon vuoksi. Tämä on vähän kuin joukko-oppi 2.0. Kun matematiikan kirjat olivat yhtäkkiä täynnä eläintenkuvia 70-luvun lopussa, eivätkä omat vanhemmat ymmärtäneet enää mitä koulussa opetettiin. Vasemmiston idea oli tuhota oman sukupolveni kyky matemaattiseen ajatteluun, rationaaliseen päättelyyn. Nyt vasemmisto haluaa tuhota sukupolven halun normaaliin seksiin etteivät valkoiset lisääntyisi, halu kuolee kun kielletyn hedelmän maku poistuu. Vasemmisto on vihassaan hämmästyttävä, ei voi oikein muuta sanoa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 28.11.2024, 11:24:14
Miksi kulttuurimme näkemys seksistä on nykyään niin särkynyt?

Syypää tähän on varmasti Alfred Kinsey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Kinsey) joka on yksi "seksuaalisen vallankumouksen isiä".

Hänen elinikäinen tehtävänsä oli tuhota normaali käsitys perheyksiköstä. Ehkä tässä voisi mennä vieläkin enemmän ajassa taaksepäin (Rooma ja Kreikka) mutta tuo on yksi tuholaisista.

Satunnainen seksi tuhoaa yhteiskunnan kun tuloksena on yksinhuoltajaäitejä ja poissa oleviin isiin esim. jenkkilän tummaihoiset nykypäivänä. Jenkeissä kai miljoona aborttia vuodessa?

Porno, lgbtq++, woketus, OF ym. ovat tuossa kaikki hyviä kannustajia.

Jossain luin että tälläinen "irstailu" johtaa sivilisaation romahtamiseen 3 sukupolvessa. ja antropologi J.D. Unwinin mukaan edistyneiden sivilisaatioiden tärkein yksittäinen tekijä oli avioliittoa edeltävä siveys.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.11.2024, 11:47:42
Quote from: migri on 28.11.2024, 11:24:14
Satunnainen seksi tuhoaa yhteiskunnan kun tuloksena on yksinhuoltajaäitejä ja poissa oleviin isiin esim. jenkkilän tummaihoiset nykypäivänä. Jenkeissä kai miljoona aborttia vuodessa?

Porno, lgbtq++, woketus, OF ym. ovat tuossa kaikki hyviä kannustajia.

Jossain luin että tälläinen "irstailu" johtaa sivilisaation romahtamiseen 3 sukupolvessa.

Jeps.

Nyt kun eräät sairaat tahot yrittävät normalisoida pedomeininkiä, niin saas nähdä kuinka kauan kestää, ennenkuin samaa yritetään alkaa tehdä vampirismille, kannibalismille ja lapsien polttouhraukselle.

Quote from: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/MoolokMolok... oli nykyisen Israelin alueella Vanhan Testamentin aikana palvottu foinikialainen ja ammonialaisten jumala ... Foinikialaisten sanotaan uhranneen lapsia polttouhreina Moolokille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Hohtis on 28.11.2024, 11:48:26
Quote from: Saturnalia on 27.11.2024, 15:51:56
....
Jos yksilö voi vapaasti päättää identiteettinsä eikä oman identiteetin tarvitse olla yhtä edes oman biologian kanssa, niin jokainen työtönhän voi päättää olevansa toimitusjohtaja, ja jokaisen tulee kunnioitttaa sitä, etenkin työvoimatoimiston, vuokranantajien ja vastaavien. Työtön voi siis valita työidentiteettinsä vapaasti. Nykyään valdemedian kaavakkeissa lukee olet mies, nainen vaiko muu?, niin tämä tulee siirtää työidentiteettien alueelle totta kai vähintään myöskin. Oletko töissä, eläkeläinen, työtön, vaiko muu? Ruksaa sopiva. Jos nyt oikeita vallankumouksellisia ollaan olevinaan. Miten Kela aikoo toimia tämän kanssa?

Tämä oli hyvä.

Tosiaan, ei tuo ideana ole oikeastaan yhtään sen kauempana sukupuoli-identiteetistäkään. Sukupuolensa voi vaihtaa jos niin haluaa mutta se vaatii kalliit leikkaukset ja pitkät hormonihoidot, lopputuloksen ollessa enemmän tai vähemmän onnistunut. Sitä en tiedä saadaanko hormonihoidolla koskaan aikaan munasoluja tuottava alunperin koiras.

Mikäli on vakaa aikomus perustaa oma yritys, niin silloinhan on jo toimitusjohtaja jolla ei vielä ole sitä yritystä. Poikkeuksena ylläolevaan on se, että ihanihan aidoksi toimariksi on myös mahdollisuus tulla.

Itsekin olen opintojen aloittamista vaille valmis lääkäri. Mistä niitä valkoisia takkeja saa? Itse asiassa taidan alkaa vaatimaan, että minua aletaan puhuttelemaan käyttämällä muotoa Johtaja [Sukunimi].
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 13:07:00
Quote from: Totti on 28.11.2024, 11:09:16
Tämä seksin eri muotojen ja seksin harrastamisen normalisointi on ollut meneillään jo pitkään, jonka takia seksuaalimoraali on myös muuttunut liberaalimpaan suuntaan.

En puutu tässä pitkässä jeesustelua sisältävässä viestissä muuhun, mutta mikä "seksin harrastamisen normalisointi"

Sehän on yksi ihmiskunnan perusvieteistä. Totta munassa se kuuluu normalisoida.

Toivottavasti ei palata tässä asiassa 1950-luvun ajatteluun.

Quote from: migri on 28.11.2024, 11:24:14
Jossain luin että tälläinen "irstailu" johtaa sivilisaation romahtamiseen 3 sukupolvessa. ja antropologi J.D. Unwinin mukaan edistyneiden sivilisaatioiden tärkein yksittäinen tekijä oli avioliittoa edeltävä siveys.

Tätä "irstailua" on tosiaan harrastettua jokunen tuhat vuotta, että aika pitkät sukupolvet on.
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Post by: Puuha-Pepe on 28.11.2024, 13:13:59
Ihan turha ulista jostain kirjasta, jos persujen suurin somehahmo levittää itse kullinimemiskuvia.
Tynkkynen taisi jopa itse jeesustella tuosta kirjasta... :facepalm: ;D

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Post by: Emo on 28.11.2024, 13:17:24
^ Onko tuo Tynkkysen kuvakin siis peruskoulujen oppikirjoissa?  :o

Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 28.11.2024, 13:13:59Ihan turha ulista jostain kirjasta, jos persujen suurin somehahmo levittää itse kullinimemiskuvia.

@Puuha-Pepe
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Post by: Puuha-Pepe on 28.11.2024, 13:46:30
Quote from: Emo on 28.11.2024, 13:17:24
^ Onko tuo Tynkkysen kuvakin siis peruskoulujen oppikirjoissa?  :o

Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 28.11.2024, 13:13:59Ihan turha ulista jostain kirjasta, jos persujen suurin somehahmo levittää itse kullinimemiskuvia.

@Puuha-Pepe

No ei se kirjakaan mikään oppikirja ole. Yksi kirja sadan muun joukossa koulujen kirjastossa. 5 vuotta sitten jo jaettu kouluille, ja nyt jo nostettiin meteli. On taas semmoista ulkomailta tuotua tekopöyristymistä, että oksat pois.  Jotenkin tuntuu että piti löytää sopiva "kato orava", kun kaikki hallituksen tekemiset menee päin persettä.  :facepalm:
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Post by: Emo on 28.11.2024, 13:52:03
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 28.11.2024, 13:46:30No ei se kirjakaan mikään oppikirja ole. Yksi kirja sadan muun joukossa koulujen kirjastossa. 5 vuotta sitten jo jaettu kouluille, ja nyt jo nostettiin meteli. On taas semmoista ulkomailta tuotua tekopöyristymistä, että oksat pois.  Jotenkin tuntuu että piti löytää sopiva "kato orava", kun kaikki hallituksen tekemiset menee päin persettä.  :facepalm:

Ei sen "kirjan" tarvitse olla suomennettuna ja verorahoilla hankittuna yhtään missään. Netti on täynnä kullinimentää, koulu keskittyköön sivistyneempään kirjallisuuteen ja sellaisen tunnetuksi tekemiseen.

Koko Eurooppa ja läntinen kulttuuri menee päin persettä, turha syyttää Suomen nykyistä hallitusta tästä,
Viimeiset 40 vuotta politiikka Euroopassa ja USA:ssa/Kanadassa on ollut yhtä mustan kullin imentää. Siitä tämä kurjuus länsimaissa juuri johtuu, kullinimentä osataan jo, koulun ei tarvitse sitä enää opettaa.

@Puuha-Pepe

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Post by: pugisti on 28.11.2024, 14:01:58
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 28.11.2024, 13:46:30
Quote from: Emo on 28.11.2024, 13:17:24
^ Onko tuo Tynkkysen kuvakin siis peruskoulujen oppikirjoissa?  :o

Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 28.11.2024, 13:13:59Ihan turha ulista jostain kirjasta, jos persujen suurin somehahmo levittää itse kullinimemiskuvia.

@Puuha-Pepe

No ei se kirjakaan mikään oppikirja ole. Yksi kirja sadan muun joukossa koulujen kirjastossa. 5 vuotta sitten jo jaettu kouluille, ja nyt jo nostettiin meteli. On taas semmoista ulkomailta tuotua tekopöyristymistä, että oksat pois.  Jotenkin tuntuu että piti löytää sopiva "kato orava", kun kaikki hallituksen tekemiset menee päin persettä.  :facepalm:
Kirjahan on suunnattu pojille, huom pojille, kuten kannessa lukee.
Mitä mietteitä se sussa herättää? Entäs jäsen @Velkku? Aivan asiallista opettaa myös kullikuvien ottoa?
Tuotua tekopöyristymistä? Ihanko oikeasti?
Ja vertaan johonki Tynkkysen somejuttuun?
Oisit edes ottanu vaikka pride kulkueet mukaan.


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Post by: Mäyräkoira on 28.11.2024, 14:13:50
Quote
Aihealueet

Kristinusko
Luterilaisuus
Likaiset keinot

aivopesua
2014-12-04 19:29:08
Ilmoita
Tässä sitaatissa kerrotaan niistä likaisista keinoista, joilla esimerkiksi perinteistä kristinuskoa yritetään kaataa. Menetelmän nimi on repressiivinen toleranssi, ja sen isä on Herbert Marcuse.

Kuulostaako tutulta? Itselläni on käynyt jo pitkään vähän sääliksi niitä ihmisiä, jotka käyttävät tiettensä noita keinoja. Niihin joko turvautuu, koska oma mieli on jo mustunut, tai jos ei vielä ole, niin tietoisesta likaisesta toiminnasta se mustuu.

"1. Tehotoisto. Repressiivisen toleranssin kohteena olevasta asiasta (homous, feminismi, maahanmuuttajat) on puhuttava kovaa ja usein mediassa eli tehotoisto – perinteinen manipulaation keino siis. Toistetaan joka tuutista kunnes varmasti menee perille. 2. Instituutioiden soluttaminen. Konservatiivisten instituutioiden, varsinkin kirkkojen, katsannot on muutettava ja tuettava Raamatun sanan vastaista teologiaa tai yhteiskunnallisissa instituutiossa yhteiskunnan vastaista agendaa. 3. Kompromettointi. Instituutiot, varsinkin kirkot, tulee saattaa huonoon valoon ja niiden moraalinen arvovalta tulee murenetaa – saattamalla ne naurunalaisiksi, keksimällä skandaaleja, vetoamalla suvaitsemattomuuteen jne 4. Tieteellinen sanahelinä. On vedottava tieteeseen ja julkiseen mielipiteeseen vaikka ilman perusteita, sillä tieteellä on helppoa vakuuttaa suuret massat. 5. Pedigree underdog. Kohteena olevan asian edustajien (homojen, naisten, maahanmuuttajien jne) on tietoisesti otettava uhrin asema vaikka ovat haastajia ja vaikka he olisivatkin etuoikeutetussa asemassa. 6. Help, help, I'm being repressed!. On vedottava kaikessa syrjintään ja suvaitsemattomuuteen. Ns. kunnon kansalaiset pitää esittää sortajina, riistäjinä ja bigotteina. 7. Valkomaalaus. Kohteena olevan asian edustajat on kuvattava positiivisesti. Mistään tämän asian edustajien kipupisteistä (sukupuolitaudit, psyykkiset ongelmat, väkivaltaisuus, väärinkäytökset, rikollisuus) ei saa puhua. Kaikki tutkimukset asiasta on kiellettävä tai nujerrettava. 8. Vastustajien mustamaalaus. Vastustajat on leimattava ja heistä on tehtävä huonoja ihmisiä – asiallisilla perusteilla ei väliä, kunhan pidetään meteliä. 9. Selkäänpuukotus: asian arvostelijat on saatettava huonoon valoon, ja henkilökohtaiset heikkoudet tulee nostaa framille. 10. Vastustajien leimaaminen sairaiksi. Fobiat ovat lääketieteellisiä termejä, ja niitä ei voi antaa kevyin perustein. Siksi sellaisia käsitteitä kuin homofobia, gynofobia, islamofobia jne tulee käyttää leimaavasti ja syrjivästi. Vastustaja ei enää ole tällöin vakavasti otettava."

Olipas hyvä kirjoitus suomi 24-keskustelupalstalla.

https://keskustelu.suomi24.fi/t/13056162/likaiset-keinot
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 28.11.2024, 14:25:50
Quote from: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 09:08:50
Quote from: Miniluv on 28.11.2024, 08:54:44

Ihanan traditionaalinen ajattelutapa sinulla. Miehen arvon mitta on seksin saaminen  :-*  Tätähän Laasanenkin aina sanoi!

Ei tietenkään ole kenenkään arvon mitta tuollainen. Miten tuosta sellaisen käsityksen sait?

Puhuit incel -pojista, siitähän senn huomaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 14:27:05

Hmm..

Quote2. Instituutioiden soluttaminen. Konservatiivisten instituutioiden, varsinkin kirkkojen, katsannot on muutettava ja tuettava Raamatun sanan vastaista teologiaa tai yhteiskunnallisissa instituutiossa yhteiskunnan vastaista agendaa

Entäs jos sille tarkalle Raamatun sanomalle ei ole kovinkaan paljon kannatusta nykyään? (jos nyt kirjaimelliselle tulkinnalle juuri koskaan on ollut kummoistakaan kannatusta ainakaan Suomessa). Kirkon kantahan moneen asiaan on muuttunut aivan täysin 40 vuodessa, ja siitä ei voi woketusta varmaan syyttää...

Quote3. Kompromettointi. Instituutiot, varsinkin kirkot, tulee saattaa huonoon valoon ja niiden moraalinen arvovalta tulee murenetaa – saattamalla ne naurunalaisiksi, keksimällä skandaaleja, vetoamalla suvaitsemattomuuteen jne

Luterilainen kirkko on aina ollut erilaisia ihmisiä kohtaan suvaitsematon. On se erilaisuus sitten pakanuutta, muita uskontoja, homoja jne. Katolinen kirkko taas on suvainnut pieniä poikia varsin hyvin...

Quote4. Tieteellinen sanahelinä. On vedottava tieteeseen ja julkiseen mielipiteeseen vaikka ilman perusteita, sillä tieteellä on helppoa vakuuttaa suuret massat.

Niin eli vaikkapa evoluutio pitäisi kieltää, koska jos vetoat siihen niin se on "tieteellistä sanahelinää"?

Quote5. Pedigree underdog. Kohteena olevan asian edustajien (homojen, naisten, maahanmuuttajien jne) on tietoisesti otettava uhrin asema vaikka ovat haastajia ja vaikka he olisivatkin etuoikeutetussa asemassa.

Millä logiikalla homot ovat kirkon kanssa keskustellessaan etuoikeutetussa asemassa? Eikö se ole juuri toisinpäin?

Quote7. Valkomaalaus. Kohteena olevan asian edustajat on kuvattava positiivisesti. Mistään tämän asian edustajien kipupisteistä (sukupuolitaudit, psyykkiset ongelmat, väkivaltaisuus, väärinkäytökset, rikollisuus) ei saa puhua. Kaikki tutkimukset asiasta on kiellettävä tai nujerrettava.

Mutuilua kirjoittajalta, mutta yhtä paljon puhutaan kuin yleisesti suomalaisten ongelmista? Alkoholi, väkivaltarikokset?

Quote10. Vastustajien leimaaminen sairaiksi. Fobiat ovat lääketieteellisiä termejä, ja niitä ei voi antaa kevyin perustein. Siksi sellaisia käsitteitä kuin homofobia, gynofobia, islamofobia jne tulee käyttää leimaavasti ja syrjivästi. Vastustaja ei enää ole tällöin vakavasti otettava."

Miten tämä eroaa siitä että homoja tai transsukupuolisia pidetään sairaina?
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Post by: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 14:29:27
Quote from: pugisti on 28.11.2024, 14:01:58

Kirjahan on suunnattu pojille, huom pojille, kuten kannessa lukee.
Mitä mietteitä se sussa herättää? Entäs jäsen @Velkku? Aivan asiallista opettaa myös kullikuvien ottoa?
Tuotua tekopöyristymistä? Ihanko oikeasti?
Ja vertaan johonki Tynkkysen somejuttuun?
Oisit edes ottanu vaikka prode kulkueet mukaan.

Jos tosiaan on vain koulujen kirjastoihin jaettu kirja, niin pöyristyminen entistä hullumpaa. Kaikki yläasteikäiset joilla älypuhelin näkevät paljon graafisempaa materiaalia.

Enkä oikeastaan tiedä onko tuota juuri kukaan lukenut? Tuskin jos 5 vuoden jälkeen vasta nousi kohu..

Nythän sen lukumäärät nousee varmasti.
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Post by: Emo on 28.11.2024, 14:35:22
@Velkku
@Mäyräkoira

THE OVERHAULING OF STRAIGHT AMERICA
By Marshall Kirk and Erastes Pill

https://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

QuoteIn November 1987 article entitled "The Overhauling of Straight America'' appeared in Guide Magazine. A few years later it's authors did expand it into a book:

Marshall Kirk, Hunter Madsen: "After the Ball -- How America will conquer its fear and hatred of Gays in the 1990s". (Plume, 1990), ISBN: 0452264987.

Voiko joku väittää, etteikö juuri noin ole toimittu?



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Post by: Miniluv on 28.11.2024, 14:40:15
QuoteKatolinen kirkko taas on suvainnut pieniä poikia varsin hyvin...

Kun homopappi toteuttaa homouttaan teinipojan kanssa, se on esimerkki vain kirkon sääntöjen rikkomisesta.
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Post by: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 15:04:10
Quote from: Emo on 28.11.2024, 14:35:22
@Velkku
@Mäyräkoira

THE OVERHAULING OF STRAIGHT AMERICA
By Marshall Kirk and Erastes Pill

https://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm

QuoteIn November 1987 article entitled "The Overhauling of Straight America'' appeared in Guide Magazine. A few years later it's authors did expand it into a book:

Marshall Kirk, Hunter Madsen: "After the Ball -- How America will conquer its fear and hatred of Gays in the 1990s". (Plume, 1990), ISBN: 0452264987.

Voiko joku väittää, etteikö juuri noin ole toimittu?

Onko viha ja pelko homoja vastaan hävinnyt Yhdysvalloissa? Ei ainakaan kovin hyvin ole tämä propaganda toiminut. Meillä sitä Euroopassa on aina ollut vähemmän.

Eli oli toimittu noin tai ei, niin aika kaukana ollaan tavoitteista.

QuoteHe quoted Kirk remarking in 2006 that while the book was widely read by gay rights activists when it was first published, most of them regarded it negatively, and that while many of its techniques had been used by activists it had no current influence on them.
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Post by: Mäyräkoira on 28.11.2024, 16:40:56
QuoteOsa kulttuurimarxilaisten pirullisen nerokasta strategiaa on perheyksikön tuhoaminen kannattamalla "androgyniaa", eli kulttuurimarxilaisten strategiaksi käännettynä tämä tarkoittaa perheen isän ja äidin tekemistä samanlaisiksi, täysin keskenään vaihdettavissa oleviksi, ja/tai heidän roolinsa käännetään toisinpäin. Tämä alkaa invalidaatiolla.

Elokuvissa isät esitetään jatkuvasti hallitsevina, rajoittavina, luonteettomina ja kontrolloivina, mikä invalidoi perheyksikön miespuolisen komponentin. Äidit esitetään jatkuvasti skitsofreenisina, nalkuttavina, ahdistuneina ja psykoottisina, mikä invalidoi perheyksikön naispuolisen komponentin. Tämä kahden iskun invalidointi, loputtomiin toistettuna yleisessä kirjallisuudessa, elokuvissa ja mediassa, synnyttää pessimistisen asenteen perinteistä perhettä kohtaan. Ajan myötä tämä pessimismi kovettuu osaksi kulttuuria. Siksi sanotaan, että kriittisen teorian tuote on kulttuuripessimismi. Kulttuuripessimismin viesti on:

1. Perheet ovat tylsiä, tukahduttavia ja tunkeilevia

2. Äideistä ja isistä ei ole mihinkään

3. Avioero on täten ymmärrettävä, oikeutettu ja tavallinen asia

Lähes jokaisessa Hollywoodin tänä päivänä tuottamassa elokuvassa täytyy esiintyä hahmoja, joilla on ainakin yksi seuraavista attribuuteista:

1. Protagonisti ja/tai antagonisti ovat olleet naimisissa mutta sittemmin eronneet

2. Nainen on dominoiva, kontrolloiva, väkivaltainen ja/tai miestennielijä

3. Mies on etäinen, feminiini, ylitunteellinen ja/tai petollinen

4. Ainakin yhden perheenjäsenistä täytyy olla lesbo, homo, biseksuaali tai kiihkeä feministi

Usein attribuutteja sekoitellaan eri suhteissa ja sekaan lisätään jopa ripaus skitsofreniaa miesten ja naisten vaihtaessa rooleja keskenään.

Median levittäessä tällaista loputtomalla toistolla, kulttuurimarxilaisten perhekuva institutionalisoituu legitiiminä ja lopulta normaalina. Kulttuuripessimismi on viety aivan uudelle tasolle: Toimimattomien sosiaalisten rakenteiden täydellinen suvaitseminen ja sen todistaminen, että kristilliset arvot eivät ole käytännössä toimivia.

https://magneettimedia.com/frankfurtin-koulukunnan-kulttuurimarxismi-ja-sen-yhteys-suomalaiseen-kulttuuriin/
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Post by: Miniluv on 28.11.2024, 17:20:52
^ Kirjan ohjeiden mukaan on toimittu, kuten Emo sanoi.
Se ei ole toiminut täysin, niinkuin Velkku sanoi.
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Post by: mmm on 28.11.2024, 18:58:40
Quote from: Totti on 28.11.2024, 11:09:16
Quote from: mmm on 28.11.2024, 00:42:40
Quote from: Totti on 27.11.2024, 21:33:37
Jos siis on OF:ssä, se kertoo jo aika paljon henkilön ajattelumaailmasta ihan riippumatta mitä siellä esittelee.

No mitä se henkilöstä sitten kertoo?

Elämme edelleen yhteiskunnassa, jossa itseään julkisesti levittelevät ei pideä kovin korkeassa arvossa. Yhteiskuntamoraali on kaikesta vapautuneisuudesta huolimatta siis vielä sellainen, että eräs raja kunniallisen ja kunniattoman henkilön välillä menee irstailun tasossa. Kun näin on, itseään netissä levittelevällä on selvästi moraalinen kompassi hukassa.
Tämä on mielestäni validi argumentti henkilöltä, joka ei koskaan kuluta pornoa. Itse en ole sellainen, mistä syystä en osaa suhtautua asiaan noin jyrkästi tai mustavalkoisesti.

Quote from: Totti
Sen lisäksi se tietenkin kertoo erinomaisen honosta harkintakyvystä. Nainen, joka levittelee itsensä netissä 2-kymppisenä tuskin ymmärtää, että muutaman vuoden päästä hänen aika ramppivaloissa on ohi ja pitäisi alkaa rakentamaan elämää. Siinä vaiheessa on surkutella löysää mainettaan kun miehet eivät enää pidä arvossa.
Lopputulema on tietty mahdollinen, muttei väistämätön. Parisuhteissa on aina kummallakin omat menneisyydet, ja mitä rehellisempi on alusta lähtien, sitä parempi se on jatkon kannalta.
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Post by: ikuturso on 28.11.2024, 21:05:37
Ihan vaan asian vierestä huomiona. Tänään kun radiossa haastateltiin jotain seksuaaliterapeuttia tuon kirjan suhteen, niin ilmeisesti tämäkään ei ole kuin vilkaissut kirjaa.

Hänen mielestään oli hyödyllistä, kun kirjassa opetetaan antamaan oikein suuseksiä....
Siis tuollahan poikia neuvotaan treenaamaan banaanilla, että voi ottaa toisen miehen kullin omaan suuhunsa yökkäämättä. Toki kaiken muun ohessa.

Mutta räikeä huomiovirhe kertoi, että ollaan vaan asian tuntiana soittamassa poskionteloa tutustumatta aiheeseen kunnolla, koska se kuuluu asiaan, että jos sanasta mulkku nousee kohu, niin pitää rohkaista käyttämään sitä. Sinänsä mielenkiintoista oli, että ko. asian tuntia vihjasi "alatyylisiin sanoihin" ja vihjasi "sanoihin, jotka kuulostavat kirosanalta", mutta ei kyennyt yhtäkään niistä radiossa sanomaan. Ei siis voinut sanoa, että on hyvä jos kirjassa puhutaan mulkusta, koska siksi pojat sitä nimittävät.

Niin. Kiertoilmaisuja käytti hän.

-i-
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Post by: Mäyräkoira on 28.11.2024, 21:06:07
^^ joo. Tuo linkkaamani juttu kannattaa kuitenkin lukea kokonaan. Siinä on paljon asiaa. Ei viestintuojaa pidä aina ampua. Tuo teksti olisi voinut olla jollain toisellakin alustalla toki.

Lainaanpa sitä tekstiä hieman lisää.

QuoteKulttuurisodat eivät taivu rauhanomaiseen rinnakkaiseloon. Yksi puoli voittaa ja toinen puoli häviää ja totuus on, että vaikka konservatiivit minun mielestäni voittivat kylmän sodan poliittisen ja taloudellisen kilpailun kommunismia vastaan, me hävisimme kulttuurisodan kulttuurimarxismille, joka on voittanut aika pitkälti Yhdysvalloissa ja on nyt hallitseva kulttuuri. Kun taas meistä, jotka olemme traditionalisteja, voin käyttää [paradoksaalisesti] sanontaa vastakulttuuri.

– Yhdysvaltalainen poliitikko, kirjailija, kolumnisti ja televisiokommentaattori Pat Buchanan1

Me hautaamme teidät – Neuvostoliiton johtaja Nikita Hruštšov länsimaisille lähettiläille Puolan suurlähetystössä Moskovassa marraskuussa 1956

Tämä artikkeli selvittää useamman tunnetun tutkijan sanoin liikettä, josta harva on kuullutkaan, mutta jonka vaikutuksista monet lähes päivittäin valittavat. Kun kuulet jonkun aloittavan lauseen sanoilla "Ei minun nuoruudessani vain..." tai huudahtavan lehteä lukiessaan "No jo on aikoihin eletty!" – asian juuret ovat hyvin todennäköisesti tässä liikkeessä, jonka siemenet kylvettiin jo ensimmäisen maailmansodan päättymistä seuranneina vuosina. Nämä kylväjät olivat joukko marxilaisia intellektuelleja Frankfurtissa Saksassa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 29.11.2024, 03:15:57
^^ Niin tuo minunkin mieleeni noista jutuista jäi erityisesti, siis pojille suunnatut erilaiset homostelun opit. Jotain "miekkailua" siellä mainostettiin. En ole kirjaa nähnyt, onko siellä myös vastaavat opit tyttölapsien käsittelemiseksi?

..aina tulee mieleen Monty Pythonin seksuaalivalistussketsi.

Mutta onhan oikeasti media puskenut oikein voimailla kuinka portsikan tekeminen VainTuulettimessa on niin voimaannuttavaa, ja se on ihan mahtava ammatti. Olen samaa mieltä kuin jäsen Totti, kuka haluaa semmoisen portsikkaleidin?

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 29.11.2024, 09:01:12
Nostetaan esiin tällainen tuholainen kuin John Money

John Moneyn synkkä perintö: kuinka yhden miehen sukupuoleen liittyvät teoriat johtivat elinikäiseen vahinkoon.


Kannattaa googlata nimi jos kiinnostaa mutta tässä yksi linkki:
https://www.ubcpress.ca/asset/9338/1/9780774827928.pdf

John Money, psykologi ja seksologi, jonka työ 1900-luvun puolivälissä auttoi popularisoimaan "sukupuolen" (gender) käsitettä erona biologisesta sukupuolesta (sex), jätti jälkeensä syvästi kiistanalaisen ja traagisen perinnön. 
Vaikka hänen teoriansa vaikuttivat syvästi nykyaikaisiin keskusteluihin identiteetistä, ne aiheuttivat myös hämmennystä, aiheuttivat merkittäviä psykologisia haittoja ja haastoivat sen mitä tarkoittaa olla mies tai nainen.

Sukupuoli: kieliopista identiteetin hämmennykseen

Sana "sukupuoli" eli aikoinaan yksinomaan kielen ja kieliopin alueella. Se on johdettu latinalaisesta suvusta, joka tarkoittaa tyyppiä tai lajia, ja se oli tapana luokitella substantiivit maskuliinisiksi, feminiinisiksi tai neutraaleiksi.
Nämä kielioppiluokat perustuivat kielen rakenteisiin, eikä niillä ollut mitään tekemistä ihmisten biologisten erojen kanssa. "Seksi" oli vuosisatojen ajan ainoa termi, jota käytettiin kuvaamaan miehen ja naisen biologista eroa.

Mutta 1950-luvulla John Money otti kieliopillisen termin "sukupuoli" ja sovelsi sitä ihmisiin väittäen, että sukupuoli-identiteetti oli erillään heidän biologisesta sukupuolestaan. Moneyn mukaan sukupuoli oli sosiaalinen rakennelma, jota voi muokata kasvatuksella ja ympäristöllä. Hän väitti, että se, miten ihmiset tunnistavat itsensä – olivatpa ne miehiä tai naisia ​​– saattoi poiketa heidän biologisesta todellisuudestaan, mikä tuo esiin uuden tason sekaannusta kehon ja identiteetin välillä.

Vaikka Moneyn teoria oli radikaali, sen soveltamisen seuraukset olivat paljon haitallisempia kuin vapauttavia. Hänen lähestymistapansa jätti huomiotta seksin biologiset realiteetit ja johti haitallisiin kokeisiin lapsilla, jotka yrittivät pakottaa heidät mukautumaan identiteettiin, joka törmäsi heidän ruumiinsa kanssa.


Reimer-tapaus: epäeettisen kokeilun tragedia


Missään tämä ei ollut selvempää kuin David Reimerin sydäntäsärkevä tapaus, josta tuli Moneyn teorian keskipiste, jonka mukaan sukupuoli voidaan määrittää uudelleen ja sosiaalisesti ehdollistaa. Vuonna 1965 yhdeksi kaksospojista syntynyt David (alun perin nimeltään Bruce) joutui huonoon ympärileikkaukseen, joka jätti hänet ilman toimivaa miehen sukuelintä. Hänen vanhempansa halusivat epätoivoisesti ohjausta, ja he kääntyivät John Moneyn puoleen, joka näki tämän mahdollisuutena todistaa sukupuoliteoriansa.
Money neuvoi, että Bruce kasvatettaisiin tyttönä ja joutuisi sukupuolenvaihtoleikkaukseen ja hänet nimettiin Brendaksi. Huolimatta selvistä merkeistä, että David ei koskaan hyväksynyt hänelle asetettua nais-identiteettiä, Money jatkoi aggressiivisesti kokeilua pakottaen lapsen syvästi invasiivisiin ja väkivaltaisiin terapiaistuntoihin. Näissä istunnoissa David ja hänen kaksoisveljensä Brian pakotettiin osallistumaan häiritseviin ja sopimattomiin toimiin psykologisen terapian varjolla.

Vaikka Money piti kokeilua onnistuneena, se oli kaikkea muuta kuin. David Reimer ei koskaan hyväksynyt nais-identiteettiä ja kärsi vakavista psykologisista traumoista koko lapsuutensa ajan. 14-vuotiaana hän siirtyi takaisin elämään miehenä ja sai takaisin nimensä David, mutta vahinko oli jo tapahtunut. Hänen elämäänsä leimasi masennus, hämmennys ja emotionaalinen kipu vuosien pakkohoitojen seurauksena.

Lasku ei päättynyt siihen. Brian Reimer, joka oli ollut osa Moneyn kokeilua kontrollikohteena, kärsi myös merkittävistä mielenterveysongelmista. Vuonna 2002 hän kuoli itsemurhaan. Kaksi vuotta myöhemmin David Reimer, joka ei voinut paeta hänelle aiheutettua traumaa, teki myös itsemurhan. Molempien veljien traagiset kuolemat ovat hyytävä todistus Moneyn käyttämistä epäeettisistä menetelmistä pyrkiessään todistamaan virheellistä teoriaa.


Sukupuoliteorian haitalliset seuraukset


John Moneyn työ aiheutti pysyvää hämmennystä ihmisen identiteetin luonteesta, ja hänen eronsa sukupuolisen identiteetin ja biologisen sukupuolen välillä on osaltaan edistänyt laajempaa kulttuurista irtautumista biologisesta todellisuudesta. Hänen käsityksensä siitä, että sukupuoli voidaan erottaa biologisesta sukupuolesta – ja että se voidaan muokata puhtaasti sosiaalisten tekijöiden avulla – jätti huomiotta biologian kiistattomat realiteetit. Mikä pahempaa, se säilytti ajatuksen siitä, että ihmisen itsetuntoa voitaisiin tai pitäisi muuttaa keinotekoisesti vastaamaan identiteettiä koskevia ennakkokäsityksiä.

Terveellisempi ja rakentavampi lähestymistapa olisi omaksua biologinen todellisuus ja tunnustaa, että miehet ja naiset, pojat ja tytöt voivat ilmaista äärettömästi erilaisia ​​persoonallisuuksia, kykyjä ja kiinnostuksen kohteita tukahduttamatta tai hylkäämättä kehoaan. Ei ole tarvetta hylätä luonnollisia eroja miehen ja naisen välillä, jotta voidaan mukautua ihmisen käyttäytymisen ja ilmaisun monimutkaisuuteen. Vahvistamalla biologisen sukupuolen totuuden voimme juhlia yksilöllisen persoonallisuuden rikkautta luomatta keinotekoisia kuiluja kehon ja identiteetin välille.

Moneyn työ aiheutti hämmennystä siellä, missä selkeyttä tarvitaan. Ihminen voi, ja sen pitäisikin, ilmaista persoonallisuutensa täysin ilman tarvetta kieltää oma fyysistä ruumistaan jossa on syntynyt. Miehet ja naiset voivat biologisessa todellisuudessaan käsittää laajan kirjon käyttäytymismalleja, mieltymyksiä ja rooleja – ilman, että he hylkäävät biologista sukupuoltaan.

Vastaamattomien kysymysten perintö

John Moneyn vaikutus sukupuoli-identiteettiä koskevaan keskusteluun on kiistaton, mutta hänen teorioidensa haitat ovat aivan liian suuret, jotta niitä ei voida jättää huomiotta. Reimerin tapauksen traaginen lopputulos korostaa vaaroja, joita syntyy, kun ideologisia teorioita yritetään pakottaa tosielämään, erityisesti silloin, kun kyseessä ovat haavoittuvaiset lapset. Moneyn perintö ei ole vapautumista, vaan sekaannusta, vahinkoa ja traagisia menetyksiä.
Kun yhteiskunta kamppailee edelleen identiteettikysymysten kanssa, meidän on muistettava historian synkistä luvuista saadut opetukset. Todellinen inhimillinen kukoistaminen ei johdu biologisen todellisuuden hylkäämisestä, vaan niiden hyväksymisestä ja omaksumisesta – samalla kun tunnustetaan, että persoonallisuus, kiinnostuksen kohteet ja identiteetti voidaan ilmaista lukemattomilla tavoilla tässä kehyksessä.


Lopulta John Moneyn perinnön pitäisi toimia varoituksena: emme voi erottaa biologista totuutta ihmisidentiteetin monimutkaisuudesta, ja sen seuraukset voivat olla syvästi tuhoisia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.11.2024, 09:46:47
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.11.2024, 09:09:41
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 25.11.2024, 23:56:01
Arvatkaa huviksenne mitä kirjoja silloin joskus rovioitiin.
YLEn aamussa keskusteltiin kirjasta. Kukaan kolmesta siantuntijasta ei tuominnut kirjaa, vaan olivat enemmänkin sitä mieltä, anaaliyhdyntää on ihan hyvä opettaa alaikäisille.

Kärjistän nyt pikkasen.

YLEn jälkiviisaiden opiskelijanainen oli suunnilleen sitä mieltä, että kirja - jossa siis opetetaan alaikäsille pojille toistensa peppuun-nainti-homoilua - on ihan hyvä homma, koska se tieto on jotenkin oikeampaa, toisin kuin netin pornosivut, joiden välittämä pervoilu on jotenkin väärempää.

Mielestäni koulun tehtävä ei ole opettaa nuorille pojille homoilua. Homoilkoon nuoret pojat keskenään jos se homma kiinnostaa. Tärkeintä mitä pitäisi kaikille nuorille kertoa on se, että AIDSiin voi kuolla, kuppa syö aivot, ja tippuriseen pippeliin sattuu pissatessa.

Notta välttäkää ihmiset tauteja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 29.11.2024, 10:31:56
^ Niin mitähän se opus mahtaa sit kertoa heteroseksistä? Miten se tuodaan esiin homppelihommiin verrattuna?

..heh, kun itse olin kersa niin tommoista taisi tulla vasta lukion ekalla oikeasti. Ja ei tehty mitään demonstraatioita hedelmillä.
Pikkupoikina toki sukellettiin lehtien kierrätysmoolokkiin ettiin pokea. Löytyi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 29.11.2024, 11:40:26
Quote from: Velkku on 28.11.2024, 13:07:00
Quote from: Totti on 28.11.2024, 11:09:16
Tämä seksin eri muotojen ja seksin harrastamisen normalisointi on ollut meneillään jo pitkään, jonka takia seksuaalimoraali on myös muuttunut liberaalimpaan suuntaan.

En puutu tässä pitkässä jeesustelua sisältävässä viestissä muuhun, mutta mikä "seksin harrastamisen normalisointi"

Sehän on yksi ihmiskunnan perusvieteistä. Totta munassa se kuuluu normalisoida.

Juuri se, että seksi on perusviettejä on syy miksi sitä myös on rajoitettu kaikissa yhteiskunnissa kautta historian.

Vieteissä on kutakuinkin aina addiktoivia vaikutuksia, jonka mukana tule haittavaikutuksia. Jos siis viettien annetaan viedä mukanaan ilman rajoituksia, se tuuppaa johtaa huonoon lopputulokseen yksilö- ja / tai yhteisötasolla.

Tämä koskee mitä suuremmissa määrin myös seksiä, joka yhteiskunnallisella tasolla perinteisesti on ollut ongelmista koska siihen liittyy merkittävä riski raskaudesta. Raskaus on suuri rasite yksilöille mutta myös koko yhteisölle, jonka muonavarat esim. joudutaan jakaa yhä suuremmalle väestömäärälle.

Tämä ymmärrys on johtanut kautta historian siihen, että seksiä on rajoitettu erinäisillä sosiallisilla normeilla. Seksi on siis normaalia mutta samalla on normaalia rajoittaa sitä yhteiskunnallisella tasolla.

Missä rajoittamisen raja menee on keskustelun aihe ja esimerkiksi ehkäisyvälineet ovat laskeneet sekstailun kynnystä merkittävästi kun raskausproblematiikka on pitkälti poistunut. Lännessä seksiin liittyvät ongelmat jäävät siis pitkälti henkiselle tasolle eli siihen millainen kokemus se on sen harrastajille sekä ulkopuolisille.

Lännessä rajoitamme seksiä juurikin henkisillä verukkeilla. Emme esim. hyväksy julkista sekstailemista koska se on ulkopuolisille epämukavaa. Lasten ja aikuisten välinen seksi paheksutaan koska lapsi katsotaan kärsivän siitä henkisesti. Sama koskee raiskauksia.

Perinteisimmissä yhteiskunnissa kuitenkin seksin ulkoisten "kärsijöiden" kokemus korostetaan. Islamilaisissa maissa lapsiseksi ja raiskaus on hyväksyttävämpää koska se on yksilötason henkinen kärsimys. Sen sijaan julkinen seksi on rangaistava koska kollektiivi paheksuu sitä.

Lännessä korostamme nykyään juuri yksilötason kokemuksen kollektiivin sijaan. Ts. julkinen seksi johtaa lähinnä harmistukseen somessä eikä esim. rangaistukseern kun taas raiskaus päätyy rangaisukseen.

Vasemmiston idea laajalle liberalisoidusta seksistä on siis abberaatio eikä normi koska lännessä ei yleisesti ottaen hyväksytä esim. lasten seksualisointia huolimata siitä, että jotkut aikuiset pornon suurkuluttajat eivät näe siinä mitään ongelmaa.

Keskustelussa oleva kirja on ilmiselvästi vasemmistolaisen identiteettipolitiikan tuotos. Se on suunnattu pojille ja siinä kaupustellaan homoseksiä, joka on jo pitkään ollut vasemmiston agendalla. Kohderyhmän ikä antaa myös ymmärtää, että rivien välistä yritetään pohjustaa markkinoita pedofilialle, joka tuuppaa olla vasemmistopainotteista. Toisaalta esim. joukkoraiskausten normalisointi on selvä nyökkäys maahanmuuton mukana tulleisiin ilmiöihin; sekin vasemmistolainen agenda.

Kirja on siis pakostakin nähtävä kulttuurimarxistisena tuotoksena, jonka päämäärä ei ole varsinainen seksuaalivalistus vaan tunkea läpi tietty poliittinen agenda normalisoimalla härski aikuisseksi lasten opetuksessa ja antaa synninpäästön törkeille rikoksille, joista vasemmisto on pääasiassa vastuussa.

Seksuaalivalistus on tarpeen, mutta sen ei tarvitse olla törkeää pornoa, jonka puitteissa lapsille tyrkytetään aikuisten fetissejä. Alaikäisille riittä seksuaalivalistus, joka keskittyy seksin perusasioihin, ehkäisyn käyttöön, kehon toimintaan, lasten syntyyn ja seksuaalisten suuntautumisten mainitseminen jne. Ei ole mitään syytä opetella nyrkkinainta 12-vuotiaille. Se ei enää ole seksivalistusta vaan raakojen marginaalifetissien kauppaamista ihmisille, joiden henkinen kehitys ei mitenkään riitä niiden ymmärtämiseen.


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 29.11.2024, 13:24:18
Quote from: Totti on 29.11.2024, 11:40:26

Juuri se, että seksi on perusviettejä on syy miksi sitä myös on rajoitettu kaikissa yhteiskunnissa kautta historian.


Hyvin vaihtelevasti rajoitettu, eikä varsinkaan niin kuin sinä sitä toivot/esität että pitäisi.

Quote from: Totti on 29.11.2024, 11:40:26

Lännessä korostamme nykyään juuri yksilötason kokemuksen kollektiivin sijaan. Ts. julkinen seksi johtaa lähinnä harmistukseen somessä eikä esim. rangaistukseern kun taas raiskaus päätyy rangaisukseen.

Julkinen seksi johtaa Suomessa rangaistukseen, jos se aiheuttaa pahennusta. Ei julkisella paikalla seksin harrastamista nyt tietenkään automaattisesti ole järkevää tehdä rangaistavaksi, jos siitä ei kohdu kenellekään haittaa tai sitä parhaassa tapauksessa ei edes kukaan näe.

Quote from: Totti on 29.11.2024, 11:40:26

Vasemmiston idea laajalle liberalisoidusta seksistä on siis abberaatio eikä normi koska lännessä ei yleisesti ottaen hyväksytä esim. lasten seksualisointia huolimata siitä, jotkut aikuiset pornon suurkuluttajat eivät näe siinä mitään ongelmaa.


Sinulla kauhea pakkomielle pornon suurkuluttajia kohtaan. En tiedä ketä ne ovat, mutta kuulostaa vaikealta tilanteelta. Jos mietitään lapsen seksualisoimista, tai mitä tahansa muuta mitä 99,999% ihmisistä ei kannata, niin ei ole järkevää nostaa esille muutamien hörhöjen kantaa. Maailmassa on yli 8 mrd ihmistä, aivan jokaisenlaisia sekopäitä mahtuu joukkoon jokaisesta asiasta pitämään.

Quote from: Totti on 29.11.2024, 11:40:26
Kekustselussa oleva kirja on ilmiselvästi vasemmistolaisen identiteettipolitiikan tuotos. Se on suunnattu pojille ja siinä kaupustellaan homoseksiä, joka on jo pitkään ollut vasemmiston agendalla. Kohderyhmän ikä antaa myös ymmärtää, että rivien välistä yritetään pohjustaa markkinoita pedofilialle, joka tuuppaa olla vasemmistopainotteista. Toisaalta esim. joukkoraiskausten normalisointi on selvä nyökkäys maahanmuuton mukana tulleisiin ilmiöihin; sekin vasemmistolainen agenda.

Homoseksi ja pedofilia vasemmiston agendalla. Huh huh mitä settiä. 
Joukkoraiskauksen "normalisointi" ei myöskään mene ihan noin kuin koitat jatkuvasti nyt tuoda esiin.

Kirjassa siis lukee näin (siis olettaen että Sanna puhuu totta, hänen kohdalla vaikea sanoa montako promillea puhaltanut tuota kirjoittaessa)

QuoteKirjassa kerrotaan muun muassa, kuinka väkivaltapornon katsominen ei ole väärin ja siitä voi syttyä, kun joku joutuu joukkoraiskauksen uhriksi pornofilmissä. Kyse kun ei ole todellisesta elämästä: näyttelijät vain näyttelevät raiskausta.

Tätä samaa nuoret näkevät koko ajan elokuvista, siis muualtakin kuin pornoelokuvista. Joku varmasti saattaa sellaisesta myös kiihottua. Nuorena ihmiset saattavat seksuaalisuuttaa kovasti hämmästellä, ja vaikka sinulle kypäräpappina ilmeisesti kaikki muu kuin heteroseksi lähetyssaarnaajassa on suurta syntiä, niin ehkä kaikille ei niin ole. En minä ainakaan koita edes ymmärtää ihmisten erilaisia himoja tai miksi kaiken maailman kääpiö- ja lonkeropornoa on netti piukassa.
Eikai joukkoraiskauksen katsominen pornoleffasta ole yhtään sen erikoisempaa kuin joukkoraiskauksen katsominen sotaelokuvasta? Itse asiassa jälkimmäinen lienee paljon raaempi nuoren mielelle.

Noin muuten kirjoituksesi olikin pitkälle tuttua incel-larppia, minkä mukaan nykynaiset ovat huoria kun heillä on jopa kumppaneita, seksi kuuluu avioliittoon ja homostelu varsinkin on syntiä, ja vielä kamalampaa, vasemmistolaista. Onkohan Tynkkynenkin salaa vasemmistolainen? Ajanee jotain agendaa.

Se että sinulle seksi on jotain mitä (kuvitelmissa) harrastetaan puolison kanssa lauantaisin pimeässä peiton alla Isä Meidän-rukouksen jälkeen, ei ehkä ole ainoa "oikea" keino. Todennäköisesti nimimerkki Totinkin uumenista löytyisi piirre, joka jonkun mielestä on "sairas fetissi". Ei huolta, ehkä senkin joku nainen rukouspiirin jälkeen joskus selvittää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 29.11.2024, 13:34:05
^ Aatteles @Velkku  jos ihmisellä olisi seksiin liittyen pakottava tarve orgasmin hetkellä huutaa suureen ääneen 'NEEKERI' niin ei sitä vois kieltää, se olis seksuaalinen perustarve 🙂
Isämeitä ei ole tuon rinnalla esileikkinä vielä mitään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 29.11.2024, 13:35:26
Quote from: Emo on 29.11.2024, 13:34:05
^ Aatteles @Velkku  jos ihmisellä olisi seksiin liittyen pakottava tarve orgasmin hetkellä huutaa suureen ääneen 'Neekeri' niin ei sitä vois kieltää, se olis seksuaalinen perustarve 🙂
Isämeitä ei ole tuon rinnalla esileikkinä vielä mitään.

Ei varmasti voi kieltää. Tietysti vähän erikoinen tarve, ja riippuen puolisosta niin varmaan myös ns. karsiva  :D

Enkä edes epäile etteikö tuollaistakin voisi tästä maailmasta löytyä. Onhan niitäkin jotka kiihottuu 300kg painavista puolisoista jne.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 29.11.2024, 14:17:04
^90-luvun puolivälissä underground homosarjakuvapornossa antagonisti huusi hekuman huipulla: "Sacramento, California!"

Joten ihan ableistista on väittää tuollaista huutoa poikkeavaksi.  ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 29.11.2024, 17:41:52
Quote from: supersankaritar on 20.11.2024, 11:42:32
Hämeenlinnan kaupunki on perunut 1500 euron korvauksen maksamisen uskonnottomalle lapselle joka joutui kuulemaan jumalasta kertovia lauluja. Kerrankin taitaa järki voittaa. https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010846243.html (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010846243.html)
Todennäköisesti "Hämeenlinnan kaupunki" tajusi, että 1500€ korvausten maksaminen, olisi ollut ennakkotapaus, joka olisi lisännyt huomattavasti vastaavia uskontoon liittyviä korvausvastimuksia.

Esimerkiksi kauppojen joulumusiikki, joka erittäin todennäköisesti, sisältää Jeesuksen nimen, josta voisi tulla oikeudellisia seuraamuksia, kun ateistit ja ne jotka eivät ole kristittyjä kokevat olevansa oikeutettuja saamaan korvausta, joutuessaan kuulemaan kristillistä joulumusiikkia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 30.11.2024, 19:58:52
Kirjallisuuden Finlandia-palkinto ei ole entisensä. Siitä on tullut punavihreän woke-kulttuurin markkinointitapahtuma.  Tämän vuoden tapahtumat osoittavat, että ongelma jatkuu. Palkinnon  sääntöjen (https://kirjasaatio.fi/finlandia/tietoa-finlandia-palkinnoista/finlandia-palkintojen-saannot) mukaan Suomen Kirjasäätiön hallitus valitsee palkintoraadin, joka valitsee kuusi ehdokasta. Hallitus valitsee myös lopullisen valitsijan, joka päättää kuka ehdokkaista voittaa palkinnon.
Malli on sinänsä hyvä, kuusi henkilöä valitsee ehdokkaat, ja koska parasta on varmaan mahdotonta objektiivisesti päättää, yksi valitsee niiden joukosta jonkin mieleisensä. Malli antaa kuitenkin tilaisuuden politikointiin. Valitaan raati, jonka ei edes tarvitse olla poliittisesti vino, kunhan lopuksi valitaan päätöksentekijä, joka on varma punavihreä wokettaja. Näin Finlandia-palkinnoista saadaan teatteria, joka palvelee kulttuurivasemmiston poliittista linjaa.

Tänä vuonna tapahtumat etenivät seuraavasti:

Kaunokirjallisuuden Finlandian valitsi näyttelijä Alma Pöysti.

Finlandian sai jo toisen kerran (2019 ja 2024) Pajtim Statovci kirjalla, joka muun ohessa on "täystyrmäys  (https://www.hs.fi/taide/art-2000010860603.html)suomalaiselle rasismille".  Hyvää ei kannata vaihtaa. Pöysti haukkui  (https://areena.yle.fi/1-67410175)valintatilanteessa maan hallituksen ja sai raikuvat aplodit juhlavierailta.

Lasten- ja nuortenkirjallisuuden Finlandia-voittajan valitsi toimittaja Maria Veitola. Keskustelu (https://yle.fi/a/74-20058448) lääkärien rasistisista asenteista alkoi viime vuonna, kun hän jakoi Instagram-tilillään kuvakaappauksia rasistisesta kirjoittelusta lääkärien suljetussa Facebook-ryhmässä.

Palkinnon sai Päivi Lukkarila. Voittajateos "Skutsi" ei kelvannut suurille kustantajille, (https://kulttuuritoimitus.fi/artikkelit/artikkelit-henkilot/paivi-lukkarilan-skutsi-ei-kelvannut-isoille-kustantajille-nyt-se-on-yksi-finlandia-voittajasuosikeista/) mutta Finlandia-voittajaksi kelpasi. " Yksi kirjan sankareista on Iranista Suomeen tullut Nasim, siis maahanmuuttaja, omasta mielestään suomalainen. Hän kertoo kirjassa myös uskonnostaan. Aika rohkeaa... "

Tietokirjallisuuden Finlandian valitsi Pekka Haavisto (vihr).

Palkinnon sai YLE:n entinen toimittaja Sofia Tawast ja Riikka Leinonen (vihr) kirjalla Suuri valhe vammaisuudesta. Tawast (https://x.com/MatiasTurkkila/status/1862064771782324280) on Matias Turkkilan mukaan Ylen käyttämä aktivisti ja DEI-kouluttaja, jota Lloyd Libiso kesän alussa kritisoi, ja Leinonen vihreä aktiivi ja vihreän kansanedustajan Bella Forsgrenin entinen eduskunta-avustaja ja kampanjapäällikkö. Itse teos ei ole tavallinen kirja vammaisuudesta vaan woke-aallon hupennus, jossa esimerkiksi vaaditaan, että pyörätuolin kanssa on päästävä elokuvateatterissa istumaan minne tahansa, muu on "ableismia"

Entä Kirjasäätiön hallitus? (https://kirjasaatio.fi/saatio) Siellä istuu seitsemän henkeä, joista ainakin kolme on Hesarin punavihreitä kaadereita, muista en tiedä:

Ville Blåfield -  Hesarin entinen toimittaja. Valitti Orpon hallituksen olevan liian valkoinen. (https://x.com/Villebla/status/1670712499509817354)

Ronja Salmi - Hesarin entinen kolumnisti. Kirjamessujen ohjelmajohtajana heitti ulos piispat (https://yle.fi/a/3-10475111) ja Sarastus-kustantamon rasistisena ja lopetti vuoden kristillisen kirjan valitsemisen.

Riikka Räisänen – Hesarin entinen päätoimittaja, nyt YLEllä, missä alkoi käyttää sensitiivisyyslukijoita ja maksaa  "moniäänisyyden" edistämisestä.
(https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010544930.html9kannustuspalkkioita8/url)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 30.11.2024, 20:09:43
Ihan mielenkiinnosta, mikä/kuka olisi sellainen kirja/kirjoittaja tällä hetkellä kaunokirjallisuuden alalta joka kelpaisi myös öyhöttäjille? Suurin osa ei kuitenkaan niitä kirjoja lue, joten kysymys taitaa olla pitkälti retorinen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pugisti on 30.11.2024, 21:30:05
Ketä tarkoitat öyhöttäjillä? Kaikkia täällä jotka ei ole sun kanssa samoilla linjoilla? Onhan noita kirjailijoita vaan turha niitä listata, hukkaan menee
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 08:24:46
Quote from: pugisti on 30.11.2024, 21:30:05
Ketä tarkoitat öyhöttäjillä? Kaikkia täällä jotka ei ole sun kanssa samoilla linjoilla? Onhan noita kirjailijoita vaan turha niitä listata, hukkaan menee

Se olikin tarkoituksellinen provo. Kaikki eri mieltä sinun kanssa olevat ei myöskään ole vihermädättäjiä jne.


Ihan mielenkiintoinen se lista olisi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.12.2024, 08:31:12
Quote from: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 08:24:46
Quote from: pugisti on 30.11.2024, 21:30:05
Ketä tarkoitat öyhöttäjillä? Kaikkia täällä jotka ei ole sun kanssa samoilla linjoilla? Onhan noita kirjailijoita vaan turha niitä listata, hukkaan menee

Se olikin tarkoituksellinen provo. Kaikki eri mieltä sinun kanssa olevat ei myöskään ole vihermädättäjiä jne.


Ihan mielenkiintoinen se lista olisi.

Se on täällä: Suuri Mitä nuivat lukee -ketju
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,2540.0.html

1934 listusta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 08:39:27
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.12.2024, 08:31:12
Quote from: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 08:24:46
Quote from: pugisti on 30.11.2024, 21:30:05
Ketä tarkoitat öyhöttäjillä? Kaikkia täällä jotka ei ole sun kanssa samoilla linjoilla? Onhan noita kirjailijoita vaan turha niitä listata, hukkaan menee

Se olikin tarkoituksellinen provo. Kaikki eri mieltä sinun kanssa olevat ei myöskään ole vihermädättäjiä jne.


Ihan mielenkiintoinen se lista olisi.

Se on täällä: Suuri Mitä nuivat lukee -ketju
https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,2540.0.html

1934 listusta.

Jossa oli mm. Tex Willeriä jne lueteltu. Vaikka tietysti hienoja kirjoja ovat, niin tuskin kaunokirjallisuuden Finlandia-ehdokkaiksi sopivat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.12.2024, 09:06:13
Quote from: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 08:39:27
... oli mm. Tex Willeriä jne lueteltu. Vaikka tietysti hienoja kirjoja ovat, niin tuskin kaunokirjallisuuden Finlandia-ehdokkaiksi sopivat.

Jopa Tex Willer on Finlandia -henkisempi kuin useimmat noista voittaneista punavihreän woke-kulttuurin hekumointiteoksista.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ryytipippuri on 01.12.2024, 09:07:02
^
Joo, eipä taida Tex Willerit kelvata Finlandia-ehdokkaiksi. Niissä kun ei ymmärtääkseni homostella ja rasismiakin niissä kai esiintyy?  :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 09:21:18
Quote from: ryytipippuri on 01.12.2024, 09:07:02
^
Joo, eipä taida Tex Willerit kelvata Finlandia-ehdokkaiksi. Niissä kun ei ymmärtääkseni homostella ja rasismiakin niissä kai esiintyy?  :facepalm:

Luulen että suurin syy kuitenkin on se etteivät liene kotimaisia. Tai uusia.

Mutta jos nyt palkinnon kanssa on vääryyttä tapahtunut niin oletin että täällä olisi lueteltu hyviä ei-woke -kirjoja jotka jäivät palkinnotta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ryytipippuri on 01.12.2024, 09:33:20
Quote from: Velkku on 30.11.2024, 20:09:43
Ihan mielenkiinnosta, mikä/kuka olisi sellainen kirja/kirjoittaja tällä hetkellä kaunokirjallisuuden alalta joka kelpaisi myös öyhöttäjille? Suurin osa ei kuitenkaan niitä kirjoja lue, joten kysymys taitaa olla pitkälti retorinen.

Eipä taida sellainen kirja tänä päivänä nähdä päivänvaloa muuna kuin omakustanteena? Tuskinpa Veikko Huovisen Rasvamaksakaan enää saisi julkaisulupaa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 09:47:57
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 01.12.2024, 09:45:42
Quote from: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 09:21:18
Mutta jos nyt palkinnon kanssa on vääryyttä tapahtunut niin oletin että täällä olisi lueteltu hyviä ei-woke -kirjoja jotka jäivät palkinnotta.

Historioitisija Teemu Keskisarjaltan koko tuotanto olisi ilmestyessään ollut Finlandia -materiaalia.

Ei kaunokirjallisuudessa tosin. Osin ihan hyviä kirjoja kyllä Keskisarjalla, mutta en osaa arvioida kyseisten vuosien voittajia vs Keskisarja. Tuskin ne ihan huttua olivat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Huppupelikaani on 01.12.2024, 09:51:59
Quote from: Näkkileipä on 29.11.2024, 17:41:52
Todennäköisesti "Hämeenlinnan kaupunki" tajusi, että 1500€ korvausten maksaminen, olisi ollut ennakkotapaus, joka olisi lisännyt huomattavasti vastaavia uskontoon liittyviä korvausvastimuksia.

Esimerkiksi kauppojen joulumusiikki, joka erittäin todennäköisesti, sisältää Jeesuksen nimen, josta voisi tulla oikeudellisia seuraamuksia, kun ateistit ja ne jotka eivät ole kristittyjä kokevat olevansa oikeutettuja saamaan korvausta, joutuessaan kuulemaan kristillistä joulumusiikkia.

Tämä Jeesus-kausti ei ole vielä ohi:
Quote
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Kohua herättänyttä syrjintähyvitystä käsitellään vielä Hämeenlinnan kaupunginhallituksen ensi maanantain kokouksessa, kertoo Hämeen Sanomat.

——

Kaupunginhallituksen ensimmäinen varapuheenjohtaja Ranjith Kumar Prabhakaran (sd) puoltaa hyvityksen maksamista.

——

Samoilla linjoilla on SDP:n valtuustoryhmän puheenjohtaja ja kaupunginhallituksen jäsen Anne Laatikainen.

——
il.fi 29.11.2024 (https://www.iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/e447e9dc-df5b-4e40-b377-26512c19c6e1)

Ja demukoiden perusteet, jotka lyhyen uutisen takia eivät mahdu lainaukseen: Käytetään maalaisjärkeä, tunteet sivuun, asiaan ei kannata käyttää paukkuja. Pelkät perusteet lukemalla voisi demareiden haluavan välttää typerän korvauksen maksamista, mutta ei.

Toisaalta nykyvasemmistollahan on taipumus (ehkä jopa geneettinen) kääntää ihan pokkana päivänselvät asiat ja argumentit täysin päälaelleen: sota on rauhaa, monikulttuuri on rikkautta, typeryys on maalaisjärkeä jne. Jotta siltä pohjalta järjettömien korvausten maksaminen ihan "loogista", "järkevää" ja "veronmaksajien resurssien oikeinkäyttöä".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 01.12.2024, 13:54:13
Finlandia-palkinnosta on tullut vihervasemmiston kulttuurisodan välikappale. Suomen kirjasäätiö on linnoitus, jonka hallitus valitsee itse itsensä säätiölain mukaisesti ja varmistaa näin, että sama meno jatkuu.

Finlandia palkinto lisää palkittujen kirjojen myyntiä ja on tärkeä propagandakeino punavihreälle aatteelle. Sitä voi vastustaa tekemällä avoimeksi palkinnon poliittinen luonne.

Sen takia pitäisi perustaa Finlandian kanssa kilpaileva Suomi-palkinto, jossa palkittavat valitaan kirjallisten ansioiden eikä LQBT-ja antifasismi -ansioilla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 15:56:55
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 01.12.2024, 13:54:13
Finlandia-palkinnosta on tullut vihervasemmiston kulttuurisodan välikappale. Suomen kirjasäätiö on linnoitus, jonka hallitus valitsee itse itsensä säätiölain mukaisesti ja varmistaa näin, että sama meno jatkuu.

Finlandia palkinto lisää palkittujen kirjojen myyntiä ja on tärkeä propagandakeino punavihreälle aatteelle. Sitä voi vastustaa tekemällä avoimeksi palkinnon poliittinen luonne.

Sen takia pitäisi perustaa Finlandian kanssa kilpaileva Suomi-palkinto, jossa palkittavat valitaan kirjallisten ansioiden eikä LQBT-ja antifasismi -ansioilla.

Edelleen kysyn, ketkä Suomessa ovat tällaisia kaunokirjoittajia, jotka olisivat tällaisessa palkinnossa ehdolla?

Onko nyt ihmisille täysin uusi juttu että taiteelliset piirit on vasemmistolaisia?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Circus Hypno on 01.12.2024, 17:01:07
Missä puhuvien eläinten ja vihreäihoisten sortoa vastustava marssi?!?  :flowerhat:

https://www.is.fi/tv-ja-elokuvat/art-2000010867691.html

QuoteUuden Wicked-hittielokuvan saama sisältövaroitus on saanut ihmiset raivostumaan. Britanniassa filmien ennakkotarkistuksia tekevä lautakunta on nimittäin lätkäissyt sille varoituksen vihreäihoisten ihmisten syrjinnästä.

Musiikkifantasian pääosissa nähdään poptähtenä tunnettu Ariana Grande ja Cynthia Erivo, joka näyttelee vihreää Elphabaa. Elokuvan saamassa varoituksessa lukee, että "vihreäihoista naista pilkataan, kiusataan ja nöyryytetään hänen ihonvärinsä vuoksi."

Kirsikkana kakun päällä varoitellaan myös siitä, että elokuvassa vainotaan puhuvia eläimiä.

..
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma Teräsrautela on 01.12.2024, 19:20:37
Quote from: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 15:56:55
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 01.12.2024, 13:54:13
Finlandia-palkinnosta on tullut vihervasemmiston kulttuurisodan välikappale. Suomen kirjasäätiö on linnoitus, jonka hallitus valitsee itse itsensä säätiölain mukaisesti ja varmistaa näin, että sama meno jatkuu.

Finlandia palkinto lisää palkittujen kirjojen myyntiä ja on tärkeä propagandakeino punavihreälle aatteelle. Sitä voi vastustaa tekemällä avoimeksi palkinnon poliittinen luonne.

Sen takia pitäisi perustaa Finlandian kanssa kilpaileva Suomi-palkinto, jossa palkittavat valitaan kirjallisten ansioiden eikä LQBT-ja antifasismi -ansioilla.

Edelleen kysyn, ketkä Suomessa ovat tällaisia kaunokirjoittajia, jotka olisivat tällaisessa palkinnossa ehdolla?

Onko nyt ihmisille täysin uusi juttu että taiteelliset piirit on vasemmistolaisia?

Kaikki muut viisi ehdolla ollutta tietokirjaa olivat parempia kuin voittanut teos. Sama taitaa koskea myös kaunokirjallisuuden puolta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Puuha-Pepe on 01.12.2024, 19:33:25
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 01.12.2024, 13:54:13
Finlandia-palkinnosta on tullut vihervasemmiston kulttuurisodan välikappale. Suomen kirjasäätiö on linnoitus, jonka hallitus valitsee itse itsensä säätiölain mukaisesti ja varmistaa näin, että sama meno jatkuu.

Finlandia palkinto lisää palkittujen kirjojen myyntiä ja on tärkeä propagandakeino punavihreälle aatteelle. Sitä voi vastustaa tekemällä avoimeksi palkinnon poliittinen luonne.

Sen takia pitäisi perustaa Finlandian kanssa kilpaileva Suomi-palkinto, jossa palkittavat valitaan kirjallisten ansioiden eikä LQBT-ja antifasismi -ansioilla.

Kuka  nämä "kirjalliset ansiot" määrittäisi? Keskikalja ja Hännikäinen?  :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pugisti on 01.12.2024, 19:36:32
Quote from: Velkku on 01.12.2024, 08:24:46
Quote from: pugisti on 30.11.2024, 21:30:05
Ketä tarkoitat öyhöttäjillä? Kaikkia täällä jotka ei ole sun kanssa samoilla linjoilla? Onhan noita kirjailijoita vaan turha niitä listata, hukkaan menee

Se olikin tarkoituksellinen provo. Kaikki eri mieltä sinun kanssa olevat ei myöskään ole vihermädättäjiä jne.


Ihan mielenkiintoinen se lista olisi.

Provo? Mitä sä haet sillä?
Että joku ei jaksa sun juttuja ja sit vastaa kärkäästi ja sitten sä saat olla taas ylpeä: voi että ne öyhöt on just tuollaisia / ja runkaatte kavereiden kanssa ringissä onnesta? #provo

Oonko väittänyt että eri mieltä olevat kaikki on??

Joitakin, jotka ainaki ois voineet olla, makuja monia tieten
Minna Mikkanen Eppu Nuotio Atso Haapanen Susanna Hynynen & Dess Terentjeva näiden Neonkaupunki 3 on listalla vielä, ja Linnea Kuuluvaisen kirja kans, näistä ei tieten osaa vielä sanoa
Saa laittaa omaa listaa
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 01.12.2024, 22:17:57
Quote from: Circus Hypno on 01.12.2024, 17:01:07
Missä puhuvien eläinten ja vihreäihoisten sortoa vastustava marssi?!?  :flowerhat:

Julkisen sektorin työnhaussa tulisi suosia vihreitä ihmisiä ja puhuvia eläimiä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 02.12.2024, 00:10:09
Quote from: pugisti on 01.12.2024, 19:36:32


Joitakin, jotka ainaki ois voineet olla, makuja monia tieten
Minna Mikkanen Eppu Nuotio Atso Haapanen Susanna Hynynen & Dess Terentjeva näiden Neonkaupunki 3 on listalla vielä, ja Linnea Kuuluvaisen kirja kans, näistä ei tieten osaa vielä sanoa
Saa laittaa omaa listaa

QuoteDess Terentjeva (s. 1992) on tamperelainen kirjailija, joka on ansioitunut Kuvastaja-palkinnon lisäksi TaajuusZ-kirjoituskilpailun voitolla. Hänen teoksiaan on ollut myös mm. Lanu-Finlandia-, Tulenkantaja- ja Vuoden queer-teos -palkintoehdokkaina. Terentjeva pitää glam metalista sekä vanhoista slasher-elokuvista.

No tämä laittaa heti ehdottomasi kirjan siis ulos listalta.

Atso Haapanen kirjoittaa lähinnä tietokirjoja? Muistaakseni olen Petrovski Jamin iskusta kertovan lukenut, mutta harvemmin sotaromaaneilla voitetaan Finlandiaa, tai muuten Lehväslaiholla olisi niitä kasa.

Minna Mikkanen ei ollut tuttu, näköjään maalaisromantiikkaa kirjoittaa.

Enkä hakenut provolla mitään muuta kuin sitä, että kuinka älyttömältä kuulostaa tämä DEI:n ja woketuksen näkeminen joka paikassa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 02.12.2024, 18:41:43
Vielä yksi varsin konservatiivinen toimija haluaa romuttaa aristokraattisen tuotemerkkinsä aikojen saatossa hankitun arvostuksen tähän homohumppaavaan nekrumenoon :facepalm:

Luulin ensin että kyseessä on jokin friikkisirkukseen liittyvä vaatemerkki ,mutta ei, kyseessä on tosiaankin Jaguar-niminen autonvalmistaja :o

Esimerkeistä ja toteutuneista romahduksista huolimatta pitää vielä puskea uskonkappaletta maailmalle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLtFIrqhfng
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.12.2024, 19:41:58
Hyvin ikäviä kokemuksia woke-hulluudesta. Liian pitkä ketju lainattavaksi, mutta tässä oleelliset.

Quote from: https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1863579675877884385J.K. Rowling @jk_rowling

The rewriting of history begins.

Opponents of gender ideology haven't merely 'endured unsparing criticism'. I haven't simply been told I 'betrayed real feminism' or received a few book-burning videos.

I've been sent thousands of threats of murder, rape and violence. A trans woman posted my family's home address with a bomb-making guide. My eldest child was targeted by a prominent trans activist who attempted to doxx* her and ended up doxxing the wrong young woman.

* Doksaus  (docs < documents) tarkoittaa toisen ihmisen henkilöllisyyden tai yksityisten tietojen keräämistä ja julkaisemista, etenkin rangaistukseksi tai kostoksi. (Wiki)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Circus Hypno on 02.12.2024, 20:42:40
Quote from: Linkster on 02.12.2024, 18:41:43https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLtFIrqhfng
Olisin halunnut olla kärpäsenä katossa, kun markkinointitiimi ideoi tätä.

Ihan oikeasti: Mitä tällä mainoksella yritetään sanoa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 02.12.2024, 22:05:44
Quote from: Circus Hypno on 02.12.2024, 20:42:40
Quote from: Linkster on 02.12.2024, 18:41:43https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLtFIrqhfng
Olisin halunnut olla kärpäsenä katossa, kun markkinointitiimi ideoi tätä.

Ihan oikeasti: Mitä tällä mainoksella yritetään sanoa?

Sillä halutaan sanoa, että kriittinen teoria on hienoa asia. Kriittinen tarkoittaa, että ollaan kriittisiä länsimaista sivistystä, kulttuuria ja saavutuksia kohtaan, ja käännetään kaikki päälaelleen, jolloin:

ruma = kaunis
väärin = oikein
paha = hyvä
tyhmä = älykäs
hullu = viisas

Jne. Tällä Frankfurtin tuhoideologialla luodaan kaaosta länsimaihin, ja kaaoksesta pitäisi Fernix-linnun tavoin triggeröityä uusi maailmanjärjestrys, jota ennen kutsuttiin internationalistiseksi maailmanvallankumoukseksi.

Sillä sillä mainoksella myydään.

Autobrändistä tuli oheistappio taistelussa tervettä järkeä vastaan.

Tämä kaikki tapahtui, koska maailman suurin sijoitusyhtiö, "frankfurttilainen" BlackRock, omistaa erilaisten kytkentöjen kautta vaikutusvaltaa korporaatioiden hallituksiin, joilla on vaikutusvaltaa toimitusjohtajaan ja johtoryhmään, joilla on vaikutusta yrityksen ulospäin näkyvään toimintaan, tässä tapauksessa woketukseen.

Tätä samaa "go woke, go broke" -hulluutta frankfurtistit ovat soveltaneet jo moniin suuryrityksiin.

Kun puntarissa ovat

a) maailmanvallankumousutopian edistäminen hulluuden kautta ja
b) brändin arvo,

niin ystävällisellä tulituksella tuhottu brändi on siinä pelissä aivan hyväksyttävä oheistappio.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 02.12.2024, 22:15:04
Onkohan koskaan Jaguar saanut niin paljon mainosta ja näkyvyyttä kuin nyt?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 02.12.2024, 22:21:12
^Niinkuin Paavo Väyrysenä kaikki julkisuus on hyvää julkisuutta?  :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 02.12.2024, 22:22:10
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 02.12.2024, 22:21:12
^Niinkuin Paavo Väyrysenä kaikki julkisuus on hyvää julkisuutta?  :facepalm:

Kommenttini ei ottanut siihen kantaa, joten en tiedä oliko facepalm minulle tarkoitettu.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 02.12.2024, 23:14:43
Quote from: Velkku on 02.12.2024, 22:15:04
Onkohan koskaan Jaguar saanut niin paljon mainosta ja näkyvyyttä kuin nyt?

Varmasti on. Nykynäkyvyys ei kuitenkaan ole positiivista.

Jaguarin pääasiakaskunta on ollut keski-ikäiset vastaeronneet 50-60 vuotiat heteromiehet. Eli sellaiset, jotka hakevat eräänlaista gentlemannimaista munanjatketta, mutta joilla ei ole varaa Ferrariiin tai Porcheen.

Jaguarhan oli tunnettu isoista koneistaan ja sofistikoituneesta tekniikastaan perheautomallina, jolla sai mukaansa enemmän kun yhden tennislaukun, eli golfaajien urheilullinen perheauto.

Nykyään brändi on kärsinyt eroosiota kun V12-koneet on vaihdettu pienempin suoriin koneisiin ja perinteiset linjat on hävitetty geneeristen mallien hyväksi. Jaguarin imago on siitä huollimatta edelleen kaukana androgynistä femmeautosta, jota keskustelussa oleva mainos edustaa.

Perinteinen asiakaskunta ei yksinkertaisesti assosioidu mainoksen kanssa eikä nuorempi sukupolvi halua "ukkoautoa". Jaguar ei myöskään koskaan ole ollut naisten suosikkiauto. Herää siis kysymys, mihin asiakassegmenttiin Jaguar oli kohdentavinaan mainoksen?

Mainos oli yksinkertaisesti  erinomaisen huono ja epäonnistunut. Se veti Jaguaarille massiivisen määrään pilkkaa ja ivaa, joka ei millään tasolla edistä myyntiä. Samanlaisia DEI-wokemainoksia ovat tehneet mm. Budweiser ja Gilette, joiden miehille suunnatut tuotteet ottivat massiivisen takaiskun mainoksista.

Kaikki näkyvyys ei siis ole hyvästä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Luotsi on 04.12.2024, 16:57:28
Ne pilkkaa meitiä! Nyt kaikki tiedostavat Jagge-kauppaan tukeaan osoittamaan!

QuoteLuksusautomerkki Jaguar on uudistanut ilmettään – ja saanut siitä kritiikkiä muun muassa Tesla-miljardööri Elon Muskilta.
....
Teslan toimitusjohtaja Musk riensi viestipalvelu X:ssä kyselemään, myykö Jaguar autoja laisinkaan.
....
Muun muassa autoyhtiö Lucid, Razer ja silmälasikauppa Specsavers ovat julkaisseet tekaistuja uudelleenbrändäyksiä pilkatakseen Jaguaria.
https://yle.fi/a/74-20129224
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 04.12.2024, 16:59:29
Tuosta jokapojan homostelukirjasta tuli vielä mieleen. 60-luvulla pojille oli "Jokaisen pojan kirja" ja joku toinen, jonka nimeä en muista. Niissä kerrottin mm. erilaisista harrastuksista ja tieteistä. Joku kappale oli otsikoitu jotenkin tähän tyyliin "Eräänä päivänä tapaat tytön". Siinä kerrottiin hyvin siveästi seurustelusta ja tunteista.

Nyt pojille tyrkytetään kirjaa, joka opettaa homostelua ja meisselin kuvausta. O tempora, o mores.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 04.12.2024, 17:23:37
Ylenannon uutisenkaltainen mielipide ei oikein edes lähtökohdiltaan ole oikein.
QuoteLuksusautomerkki Jaguar on uudistanut ilmettään – ja saanut siitä kritiikkiä muun muassa Tesla-miljardööri Elon Muskilta.

Eipä se nyt oikein muuta ole yrittänyt uudistaa kuin asiakaskuntansa johonkin kuvitteelliseen vauhdikkaaseen ja mediaseksikkääseen homostelijalaumaan. Kuvittelevat raukat että moisella poppoolla olis edes rahaa saatika intoa hankkia jotain niin toksista kuin auto!
Eipä tuolla Jaguarilla ole oikein mitään ollutkaan parempien vaunujen luokkaan tarjolla aikoihin. Viimeisin yritys homosteluineen naulannee sen arkun sitten jo kiinni asti.


Automainoksen voi tehdä perinteisemminkin, kuten saksalaisvalmistaja asianlaidan näki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MNJdnQLvBw

Tyyli,eleganssi,ympäristö,taustamusiikki - kaikki ovat harmoniassa eikä ärsytä varmastikaan juuri muita kuin "jaguar-mainos-tyyppejä". Eli tätä woke-massaa jota vieläkin jotkut koohot koittavat maailmalle tunkea.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 04.12.2024, 17:46:17
Quote from: Linkster on 04.12.2024, 17:23:37
Ylenannon uutisenkaltainen mielipide ei oikein edes lähtökohdiltaan ole oikein.
QuoteLuksusautomerkki Jaguar on uudistanut ilmettään – ja saanut siitä kritiikkiä muun muassa Tesla-miljardööri Elon Muskilta.

Eipä se nyt oikein muuta ole yrittänyt uudistaa kuin asiakaskuntansa johonkin kuvitteelliseen vauhdikkaaseen ja mediaseksikkääseen homostelijalaumaan. Kuvittelevat raukat että moisella poppoolla olis edes rahaa saatika intoa hankkia jotain niin toksista kuin auto!
Eipä tuolla Jaguarilla ole oikein mitään ollutkaan parempien vaunujen luokkaan tarjolla aikoihin. Viimeisin yritys homosteluineen naulannee sen arkun sitten jo kiinni asti.


Automainoksen voi tehdä perinteisemminkin, kuten saksalaisvalmistaja asianlaidan näki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MNJdnQLvBw

Tyyli,eleganssi,ympäristö,taustamusiikki - kaikki ovat harmoniassa eikä ärsytä varmastikaan juuri muita kuin "jaguar-mainos-tyyppejä". Eli tätä woke-massaa jota vieläkin jotkut koohot koittavat maailmalle tunkea.

- Mersumainoksella myydään mielikuvaa ... menestyksestä. 

- Louis Vitton -mainoksella myydään mielikuvaa matkustamisesta, vapaudesta ja kapinallisuudesta (liite).

- Jaguar-mainoksella myydään mielikuvaa maailmasta, jossa kaikki on päin helvettiä. Hullujen Kommunistisestä utopiasta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pugisti on 05.12.2024, 09:22:24
Quote from: Velkku on 02.12.2024, 00:10:09
Quote from: pugisti on 01.12.2024, 19:36:32


Joitakin, jotka ainaki ois voineet olla, makuja monia tieten
Minna Mikkanen Eppu Nuotio Atso Haapanen Susanna Hynynen & Dess Terentjeva näiden Neonkaupunki 3 on listalla vielä, ja Linnea Kuuluvaisen kirja kans, näistä ei tieten osaa vielä sanoa
Saa laittaa omaa listaa

QuoteDess Terentjeva (s. 1992) on tamperelainen kirjailija, joka on ansioitunut Kuvastaja-palkinnon lisäksi TaajuusZ-kirjoituskilpailun voitolla. Hänen teoksiaan on ollut myös mm. Lanu-Finlandia-, Tulenkantaja- ja Vuoden queer-teos -palkintoehdokkaina. Terentjeva pitää glam metalista sekä vanhoista slasher-elokuvista.

No tämä laittaa heti ehdottomasi kirjan siis ulos listalta.

Atso Haapanen kirjoittaa lähinnä tietokirjoja? Muistaakseni olen Petrovski Jamin iskusta kertovan lukenut, mutta harvemmin sotaromaaneilla voitetaan Finlandiaa, tai muuten Lehväslaiholla olisi niitä kasa.

Minna Mikkanen ei ollut tuttu, näköjään maalaisromantiikkaa kirjoittaa.

Enkä hakenut provolla mitään muuta kuin sitä, että kuinka älyttömältä kuulostaa tämä DEI:n ja woketuksen näkeminen joka paikassa.

Ei laita ulos, jos joku teos ollut esm nyt queer tms yms tai vaikka olisi sellainen ollut nyt.

Jos teos voittaa jollain tuollaisella perusteella, eikä sillä että on teoksena hyvä, siinä on pieni mutta ratkaiseva ero.

Provo menee hukkaan siis, koska suuri osa "hommalaisista täällä öyhöttäjistä peräkamarin junteista" ajattelee noin, toisin kuin esm sinä koitat ajatella "meidän" ajattelevan
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 05.12.2024, 11:26:24
Quote from: Jorma Teräsrautela on 01.12.2024, 13:54:13
Finlandia-palkinnosta on tullut vihervasemmiston kulttuurisodan välikappale. Suomen kirjasäätiö on linnoitus, jonka hallitus valitsee itse itsensä säätiölain mukaisesti ja varmistaa näin, että sama meno jatkuu.

Finlandia palkinto lisää palkittujen kirjojen myyntiä ja on tärkeä propagandakeino punavihreälle aatteelle. Sitä voi vastustaa tekemällä avoimeksi palkinnon poliittinen luonne.

Kun kansallismielisiä ja perussuomalaisia kritisoidaan isänmaallisuuden, kansallismielisyyden ja suomalaisuuden termien valjastamista täysin vääriin aatteisiin ja ihanteisiin, niin mitä tekee Finlandia-palkinto finlandia-sanalle?

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 05.12.2024, 11:36:26
Quote from: pugisti on 05.12.2024, 09:22:24

Provo menee hukkaan siis, koska suuri osa "hommalaisista täällä öyhöttäjistä peräkamarin junteista" ajattelee noin, toisin kuin esm sinä koitat ajatella "meidän" ajattelevan

Tämän ketjun perusteella moni ainakin vakavasti uskoon että Finlandia-palkinto on woketusta ja varmaan myös YLE-mafia osittain takana.

Se nyt on ihan selvää että jos joku on ehdokkaana "queer-palkinnon" saajaksi, niin se valtava punainen vaate monelle täällä kirjoittavalle. Tai yleensäkään konservatiiville.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 05.12.2024, 11:42:17
Quote from: Velkku on 05.12.2024, 11:36:26
Tämän ketjun perusteella moni ainakin vakavasti uskoon että Finlandia-palkinto on woketusta ja varmaan myös YLE-mafia osittain takana.

No shit Sherlock: SIWOTI!  ¨

Katsotko moisen taivastelun olevan hirmuinen palvelu ihmiskunnalle?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 05.12.2024, 11:44:11
QuoteJos teos voittaa jollain tuollaisella perusteella, eikä sillä että on teoksena hyvä, siinä on pieni mutta ratkaiseva ero.

Että pääsee kisaan mukaan, pitää olla woke/queer/poliittisesti korrekti. Varsinkin tuota ajattelua vastustavalta tie nousee pystyyn heti alussa, oli kirja kuinka hyvä tahansa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 05.12.2024, 14:16:48
Quote from: Siili on 05.12.2024, 11:42:17
Quote from: Velkku on 05.12.2024, 11:36:26
Tämän ketjun perusteella moni ainakin vakavasti uskoon että Finlandia-palkinto on woketusta ja varmaan myös YLE-mafia osittain takana.

No shit Sherlock: SIWOTI!  ¨

Katsotko moisen taivastelun olevan hirmuinen palvelu ihmiskunnalle?

Aika harva asia mitä sinä tai minä tehdään on minkäänlainen palvelus ihmiskunnalle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: aged on 08.12.2024, 00:52:55
Wokeväellä on vaikutusvaltaa usassa. Vuonna 1949 parhaan elokuvamusiikin Oscar-palkinnon sai kappale "Baby, It's Cold Outside". Kappaleella kuvaillaan ihan tavallista jokapäiväistä vonkaamista. Mutta se on nyt sekopäiden mielestä naisia alistava ja miesylivaltaa kuvaava ja siten sopimaton. Ja niinpä se saatiin bannattua kaikilla radioasemilla. Todella 'irstas' sanoitus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuvShrzC_wM

Sen sijaan kappale "Wet Ass Pussy" pyöri Billboardin ykköshittinä eikä pöyristyttänyt ketään. Ei ainakaan wokettajia. Niin kaunis ja runollinen.

"Beat it up, nigga, catch a charge
Extra large and extra hard
Put this pussy right in your face
Swipe your nose like a credit card
Hop on top, I wanna ride"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuv3jCdy_-U
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 08.12.2024, 09:46:21
Eikö tämä nyt ole jo vuosia vanha juttu missä näitä kahta vertailtiin kohun takia?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 08.12.2024, 12:29:10
Quote from: Velkku on 08.12.2024, 09:46:21
Eikö tämä nyt ole jo vuosia vanha juttu missä näitä kahta vertailtiin kohun takia?
Minusta tuollainen "mennyt on mennyttä"-argumentti kusee.  Esimerkiksi minä en ollut kuullut tästä kohusta ja perehdyin jäsen Agedin ansiosta Tom Cotterin komediapläjäykseen (https://www.tiktok.com/@tom_cotter/video/7228674786321255722?lang=fi-FI), kummakin kappaleen lyriikkaan (nimen linkki) ja wikipediasivuun:
BICO (https://www.google.com/search?q=baby+it%27s+cold+outside+lyrics&newwindow=1&sca_esv=e4c2120ac903b910&sxsrf=ADLYWILCx4RolIVFCsufol-ZxTrdJmj8gA%3A1733646734760&ei=jllVZ9yKLqCTwPAP3uaGyQw&oq=baby+its+cold+outside+ly&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGGJhYnkgaXRzIGNvbGQgb3V0c2lkZSBseSoCCAAyBxAAGIAEGAoyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywEyChAAGIAEGAoYywFIhk9Q2QNYvjZwAngAkAEAmAGwAaABjhKqAQQyMC41uAEByAEA-AEBmAIaoALwFcICChAjGIAEGCcYigXCAgQQIxgnwgIOEAAYgAQYsQMYgwEYigXCAgUQABiABMICDhAuGIAEGLEDGNEDGMcBwgIKEC4YgAQYQxiKBcICCxAAGIAEGLEDGIMBwgIKEAAYgAQYQxiKBcICDhAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGIoFwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgsQLhiABBixAxiDAcICFBAuGIAEGLEDGIMBGMcBGI4FGK8BwgIIEC4YgAQYsQPCAgUQLhiABMICCBAAGIAEGMsBwgIIEC4YgAQYywHCAgcQLhiABBgKwgIKEC4YgAQYChjLAcICFhAuGIAEGAoYlwUY3AQY3gQY4ATYAQGYAwCIBgG6BgYIARABGBSSBwUxMC4xNqAHjvAC&sclient=gws-wiz-serp): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby,_It%27s_Cold_Outside
WAP (https://www.google.com/search?q=wap+lyrics&oq=wap+l&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDAgAEAAYQxiABBiKBTIMCAAQABhDGIAEGIoFMgcIARAAGIAEMgYIAhBFGDkyBwgDEAAYgAQyDAgEEAAYQxiABBiKBTIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIICAkQABgWGB7SAQgzMzE0ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAP_(song)

Ihan mielenkiintoista triviaa, mistä kävi ilmi, että kumpikin kappale on herättänyt paheksuntaa eri aikoina, eri syistä ja eri tahoilla. Ilmeisesti kuitenkin vain lyriikaltaan vihjailevampi BICO on pistetty radioasemilla (välillä) pannaan kuuntelijoiden palautteen ansiosta:
QuoteIn 2018, the airing of the song was canceled by a number of radio stations including Canada's CBC streaming service, after social media criticism and public pressure regarding the song's lyrics.
...
The decision was divisive among critics and the general public, with supporters arguing that the song's possible implications of date rape did not align with current societal norms, and others arguing that the decision was an appeal to political correctness.[18][19][20] Station KOIT in San Francisco, having placed the song "on hold" pending listener feedback, returned it to the playlist after 77% of respondents opposed its removal.[21] CBC Radio subsequently reinstated the song as well.[22] Following the controversy, the song rose to the top 10 of Billboard's digital sales list for the week of December 22, 2018, with a 70% increase in downloads.[23]

WAP:in suoraviivainen lyriikka ilmeisesti aiheuttaa sen, että sitä levitetään varovaisemmin, eikä kovin moni pääse kuuntelemaan sitä "vahingossa", esimerkiksi auki olevasta radiosta tulevan taustamusiikin yhteydessä. Kappaletta paheksuvat eivät siten ole kummoisesti sitä levittävien kanavien asiakkaita, joten kanavien ei tarvitse välittää tästä paheksunnasta. BICO:n "kanselointi" puolestaan osoittautui vikatikiksi sitä harjoittaneille kanaville, joten uuspuritaanit eivät tässäkään tapauksessa saavuttaneet lopullista voittoa.

Siis: ihan mielenkiintoinen keissi, vaikkakin "vuosien takaa".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 09.12.2024, 04:41:04
^Heh, en ollut minäkään ennen moisia kuullut ollenkaan, aina voi oppia uutta. Onhan BICO etenkin 40-luvun silmin aikas roisi. Toisaalta taas tommoinen "panoräppi" nyt ei tunnu miltään, onhan siihen totuttu. Mutta eivät taida tulla samalta kanavalta... Mietin että ensin "White Christmas" ja sit BICO. Voi mennä kirkossa käyvältä amerikanmummolta herneet väärään sieraimeen.

Mutta ei tuossa mitään wokepaskan paikkaa ole. Wäkisin woketusta.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 08:55:26
Quote from: Siili on 08.12.2024, 12:29:10
Siis: ihan mielenkiintoinen keissi, vaikkakin "vuosien takaa".

Toki hauska vertailu, tuon komediapätkän muistan nähneeni aikoja sitten, siksi ajattelin että tuosta on jo aikaa kun niitä verrattiin.

Yleisesti, topikkiin palatakseni, on aika surullista että nykyään somessa saa julkisuutta nimenomaan ne seinähullut äärilaidat ja siksi kaikenlaiset ilmiöt nousee esille. Vähän aikaa sitten puhuttiin therianeista täällä meillä, ja sekin kohu oli ja meni. Kohti seuraavaa 2 viikon kohua.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 09.12.2024, 09:08:46
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 08:55:26

Yleisesti, topikkiin palatakseni, on aika surullista että nykyään somessa saa julkisuutta nimenomaan ne seinähullut äärilaidat ja siksi kaikenlaiset ilmiöt nousee esille. Vähän aikaa sitten puhuttiin therianeista täällä meillä, ja sekin kohu oli ja meni. Kohti seuraavaa 2 viikon kohua.

Se on todellakin hirmuinen tragedia. Onko sinulla ajatuksia, miten moisen voisi estää?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 09:13:36
Quote from: Siili on 09.12.2024, 09:08:46
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 08:55:26

Yleisesti, topikkiin palatakseni, on aika surullista että nykyään somessa saa julkisuutta nimenomaan ne seinähullut äärilaidat ja siksi kaikenlaiset ilmiöt nousee esille. Vähän aikaa sitten puhuttiin therianeista täällä meillä, ja sekin kohu oli ja meni. Kohti seuraavaa 2 viikon kohua.

Se on todellakin hirmuinen tragedia. Onko sinulla ajatuksia, miten moisen voisi estää?

Ei sitä voi estää, eikä ole tarkoituksenani estää mitään. Lähinnä koitan itse vältellä niitä, koska suurimmalla osalla kohuista yritetään vain tehdä rahaa tai saada huomiota.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 09.12.2024, 09:18:47
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 09:13:36

Ei sitä voi estää, eikä ole tarkoituksenani estää mitään. Lähinnä koitan itse vältellä niitä, koska suurimmalla osalla kohuista yritetään vain tehdä rahaa tai saada huomiota.

Niin, parhaiten niitä välttelee taivastelemalla niitä somessa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 09:28:29
Quote from: Siili on 09.12.2024, 09:18:47
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 09:13:36

Ei sitä voi estää, eikä ole tarkoituksenani estää mitään. Lähinnä koitan itse vältellä niitä, koska suurimmalla osalla kohuista yritetään vain tehdä rahaa tai saada huomiota.

Niin, parhaiten niitä välttelee taivastelemalla niitä somessa.

Aika vähän täällä Hommassa on A) ylipäätään aktiivisuutta B) tarkoittamiani kohuja.

Nousevat Twitteristä ja Facebookista iltapäivälehtiin ja ruokkivat itseään muutaman viikon. Täällä joku linkkaa ja taas kauhistellaan ehkä hetki.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Miniluv on 09.12.2024, 10:20:15
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 08:55:26
Quote from: Siili on 08.12.2024, 12:29:10
Siis: ihan mielenkiintoinen keissi, vaikkakin "vuosien takaa".

Toki hauska vertailu, tuon komediapätkän muistan nähneeni aikoja sitten, siksi ajattelin että tuosta on jo aikaa kun niitä verrattiin.

Yleisesti, topikkiin palatakseni, on aika surullista että nykyään somessa saa julkisuutta nimenomaan ne seinähullut äärilaidat ja siksi kaikenlaiset ilmiöt nousee esille. Vähän aikaa sitten puhuttiin therianeista täällä meillä, ja sekin kohu oli ja meni. Kohti seuraavaa 2 viikon kohua.

Ovatko therianit sinusta seinähulluja? Mikä ero on siinä, jos mies tuntee olevansa oikeasti nainen tai mies tuntee olevansa oikeasti karhu?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 10:52:37
Quote from: Miniluv on 09.12.2024, 10:20:15
Ovatko therianit sinusta seinähulluja? Mikä ero on siinä, jos mies tuntee olevansa oikeasti nainen tai mies tuntee olevansa oikeasti karhu?

Mielestäsi on siis järkevää verrata ihminen - eläin vs mies - nainen? Tarvitseeko ero selittää?

En oikein pidä järkevänä pukeutua eläimeksi kouluun ja maukua ja haukkua kun pitäisi puhua. Sukupuolen moninaisuus on asia mistä en kauheasti näe järkeä lähteä sinun kanssasi jänkkäämään.

Pointti ei edes ollut kenenkään mielenterveys, vaan se että aina vähän väliä saadaan joku asia josta saadaan hetki kauhistelua ja otsikoita. Sitten saadaan yhdessä kauhistella kuinka "maailma nyt on täysin sekaisin". Ja valtaosan elämään asia ei vaikuta yhtään mitenkään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 09.12.2024, 11:03:33
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 10:52:37
Sitten saadaan yhdessä kauhistella kuinka "maailma nyt on täysin sekaisin". Ja valtaosan elämään asia ei vaikuta yhtään mitenkään.

Naulan kantaan, veliseni (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,131511.msg3611376.html#msg3611376).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 09.12.2024, 14:20:14
Velkulta unohtui perustelu. Eroa ei siis ole? Eron selittäminen on jänkkäämistä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 15:55:38
Quote from: Bona on 09.12.2024, 14:20:14
Velkulta unohtui perustelu. Eroa ei siis ole? Eron selittäminen on jänkkäämistä?

Kysyn vielä uudestaan.

Sinun mielestäsi on siis sama asia:

Ihminen tuntee itsensä eläimeksi tai mies tuntee itsensä naiseksi. Onko näin?

Sukupuolista keskustelemiseen en lähde. Mutta jos eri eläinlajien välillä ei näe eroa, niin tuskin sukupuolistakaan kauhean fiksua keskustelua tulisi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 09.12.2024, 16:06:08
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 15:55:38
Quote from: Bona on 09.12.2024, 14:20:14
Velkulta unohtui perustelu. Eroa ei siis ole? Eron selittäminen on jänkkäämistä?

Kysyn vielä uudestaan.

Mitä jos kerrankin vastaisit.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 09.12.2024, 17:07:11
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 15:55:38
Kysyn vielä uudestaan.

Sinun mielestäsi on siis sama asia:

Ihminen tuntee itsensä eläimeksi tai mies tuntee itsensä naiseksi. Onko näin?
Minä voin vastata. Tämä on siis oman näkökantani.

Kyllä: Se on sama asia.

Jos ihminen tuntee olevansa jotakin mitä hän todellisuudessa ei ole, kyseessä on mielenhäiriö ja sellaisena se pitäisi hoitaa. Ihminen ei ole koira tai kissa. Mies ei ole nainen, eikä nainen ole mies. Ei voi koskaan olla. Roolileikit ovat sitten asia erikseen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 09.12.2024, 17:58:45
Jarkko Tontin pitkä mutta erinomaisen hyvä kirjoitus, joka kiteyttää oivallisesti monia päässäni pyörittelemiäni teemoja.

Lukeminen kannattaa.

QuoteJarkko Tontti: Punavihreä kupla puhkeaa

Vuonna 1967 eurooppalaisen opiskelijaradikalismin keskeinen johtohahmo Rudi Dutschke muotoili vasemmiston uuden strategian: Pitkä marssi instituutioiden läpi (Der lange Marsch durch die Institutionen). Taustalla oli marxilaisten syvä pettymys ihmisiin. Kansa ei ollut missään omaksunut ideologiaa, joka sen olisi pitänyt omaksua. Vallankumouksen edellytyksiä ei ollut olemassa, vaikka tiedostava etujoukko yritti kaikkensa. Dutschken yhteistyökumppani filosofi Herbert Marcuse suri erityisesti sitä, että vasemmistolla ei ollut mediaa eikä se pystynyt vaikuttamaan informaatiovirtoihin.

Dutschke pani ideansa toimeen myös omassa elämässään. Katuaktivismi jäi vähemmälle, hän väitteli tohtoriksi ja ryhtyi yliopistotutkijaksi. 1970-luvun lopussa Dutschke oli perustamassa Saksaan uutta puoluetta, vihreitä (Die Grünen).

1970-luvulta alkaen Dutschken ja Marcusen toive on hiljakseen toteutunut. Yhä useampi instituutio länsimaissa on pikkuhiljaa vasemmistolaistunut, ilman että mitään vallankumousta on tarvittu. Tämä on edellyttänyt vasemmistolaisuuden brändäämistä uudelleen käyttäen mitä erilaisimpia kiertoilmaisuja. "Vihreys" on näistä vain yksi. "Vastuullinen", "inhimillinen", "demokraattinen", "yhteiskunnallinen", "edistyksellinen", "feministinen", "kriittinen", "antirasistinen", "liberaali" ja niin edelleen. Malliesimerkkejä siitä, mitä George Orwell tarkoitti asioiden todellisen luonteen piilottavalla uuskielellä.

Todettakoon, että olin itsekin osa tätä prosessia lyhyen aikaa, kunnes havahduin siihen, mitä tapahtuu todella.

Suomukset ovat tippuneet silmistäni useaan kertaan. Ensimmäisen kerran jo vuosituhannen vaihteessa, kun kirjoitin väitöskirjaani Helsingin yliopiston oikeustieteellisessä tiedekunnassa ja opiskelin lisäksi filosofiaa sekä humanistisia ja yhteiskuntatieteellisiä aineita. Tajusin yhtäkkiä, että iso osa opettajakunnasta oli Rudi Dutschken aatetovereita, entisiä äärivasemmistolaisia, jotka vielä vähän aikaa sitten olivat tavoitelleet Suomen muuttamisesta sosialistiseksi yksipuoluemaaksi.

Yliopisto olikin ensimmäinen instituutio, jonka pitkä marssi saavutti.

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Toisen kerran havahduin, kun liityin vihreisiin ja menin töihin Vihreään eduskuntaryhmään. Vihreät oli alun perin perustettu irtiotoksi äärivasemmistosta. Alkuvaiheessa mukana oli paljon 1980-luvulla hiipuneen Liberaalin kansanpuolueen aktiiveja, kuten sittemmin oikeuskanslerina toiminut Paavo Nikula. Se ei kauaa kestänyt. Entinen taistolainen Satu Hassi rynni pian puheenjohtajaksi ohi sinivihreän Tuija Braxin. Sen jälkeen puolue onkin käytännössä ollut osa vasemmistoa. Eniten vihreiden sisäpiirissä hämmästyin siitä, kuinka paljon vihreissä vaikuttaa taistolaisten ja muiden 1970-luvun äärivasemmistolaisten lapsia, jotka jatkavat vanhempiensa viitoittamalla tiellä. Samalla näin ja koin toimittajien enemmistön vahvan sympatian vihreitä kohtaan, joka jatkuu yhä.

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Tilanne on vain pahentunut woke-ideologian levitessä kulttuurimaailman instituutioihin. Taiteen arvottaminen, tukeminen ja palkitseminen on lyhyessä ajassa muuttunut taiteilijan identiteettiin perustuvaksi. Sukupuoli, seksuaalisuus, etnisyys ja vammaisuus ovat mittareita, joilla kulttuuria arvioidaan. Vanhavasemmistolainen perusvire on toki mukana myös: Iso osa taiteen julkisesta tuesta on käytännössä ylimääräistä puoluetukea vihreille ja vasemmistoliitolle.

Aivan viime vuosina politisoituminen on vain kiihtynyt. Termi uustaistolainen ei ole millään lailla liioitteleva monien nykykirjailijoiden ja muiden taiteilijoiden kohdalla. Samaan aikaan takavuosien äärivasemmistolaisen kulttuuriväen tekemiset peitellään korulauseisiin.

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Takaisin yliopistomaailmaan. Mainittakoon kolme tuntemaani juristitutkijaa vuosiltani yliopistossa. Kaarlo Tuori, Martin Scheinin ja Martti Koskenniemi. Tuori oli aikaan perustamassa taistolaisjärjestö Tutkijaliittoa, joka oli keskeinen toimija marxilaisuuden levittämisessä yliopistoihin. Suomen Kommunistisen puolueen johtava rooli oli kirjattu Tutkijaliiton sääntöihin.

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Martin Scheinin oli vuosikausia puhdasverinen puoluemies, SKP:n keskuskomitean ja Akateemisen sosialistiseuran jäsen sekä Demokraattisten Lakimiesten eli Demlan puheenjohtaja. Hän työskenteli myös SKDL:n eduskuntaryhmän lainsäädäntösihteerinä. Sittemmin Scheinin on liittynyt vihreisiin.

Koskenniemen polku on hivenen erilainen, entinen kokoomusnuori ja diplomaatti sai vasemmistoherätyksen jatko-opiskellessaan Yhdysvalloissa ja Britanniassa. Yhdysvalloissa syntyi jo vuosikymmeniä sitten vasemmistolainen oikeustieteen koulukunta Critical Legal Studies. CLS-aktivistitutkija Kimberlé Crenshaw esimerkiksi keksi surullisen kuuluisan ja politisoituneen termin intersektionaalinen feminismi. Koskenniemi toi uusmarxilaisen CLS:n Suomeen ja onkin kouluttanut sen oppien mukaisesti ison joukon kansainvälisen oikeuden tutkijoita ja ihmisoikeusaktivisteja. Tämä kannattaa muistaa joka kerta kun näitä haastatellaan julkisuudessa.

Itsekin toimin aikani vapaaehtoisena esimerkiksi Amnestyssa. Siitäkin havahduin. Tajusin, että kovin usein ihmisoikeusjärjestöjen toiminnan todellinen perusta on ihmisoikeuksien sijaan punavihreä puoluepolitiikka. Amnesty Internationalin Suomen osaston toiminnanjohtaja Frank Johansson esimerkiksi on ollut vihreiden eduskuntavaaliehdokkaana, toki "sitoutumattomana".

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Perustuslakivaliokunnan toiminta perustuu ajatukseen, jonka mukaan poliitikot muuttuvat oikeustieteen asiantuntijoiksi kävellessään sisään valiokunnan ovesta, vaikka useat heistä eivät ole edes juristeja. Tämä on siirtänyt hätkähdyttävän määrän valtaa valiokunnan asiantuntijoille, kuten Tuorille, Scheininille, Koskenniemelle ja heidän aatetovereilleen. Varsinkin takavuosina heitä kuunneltiin tarkkaan ja myös toteltiin. Usein heillä oli milteipä veto-oikeus siihen, mitä lakeja eduskunta sai säätää. Vasemmistolaista ideologiaa hivutettiin hiljakseen lainsäädäntöön ja perus- ja ihmisoikeusjuridiikan oppeihin.

Tämä parlamentaarisen demokratian ja oikeusvaltion perusperiaatteiden vastainen oligarkkinen asetelma on vihdoin alkanut säröillä. Rajaturvallisuuslaki säädettiin vuonna 2024 vihervasemmistolaisten puolueiden, juristitutkijoiden ja toimittajien raivoisasta vastarinnasta huolimatta. Samalla tuli kristallinkirkkaasti esiin, että Helsingin Sanomat on punavihreiden puolueiden de facto äänenkannattaja, vaikka väittää olevansa sitoutumaton. Olen vilpittömästi hämmästynyt siitä, että yhä jotkut muutkin kuin punavihreässä uskossa olevat tilaavat Helsingin Sanomia.

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Mitä mieltä meidän pitäisi olla esimerkiksi kansainvälisen politiikan professori Heikki Patomäestä?

Vain muutama viikko ennen Venäjän hyökkäystä Ukrainaan vasemmistoliiton puoluehallituksen jäsenenäkin toiminut Patomäki arvioi näin: "Se, että vuoden 2022 aikana tapahtuisi jotain niin suurisuuntaista, että Venäjä lähtisi laajentamaan sotaa Ukrainassa käyttäen avoimesti omia asevoimiaan, pitäisin sen todennäköisyyttä viiden ja kymmenen prosentin välillä."

Suomalaiset veronmaksajat ovat vuosikymmenten ajan maksaneet yliopistojen lukuisten patomäkien palkat, miljoonia ja taas miljoonia. Vastineeksi olemme saaneet poliittista aktivismia, usein silkkaa disinformaatiota.

Tämä pätee korostetusti Lähi-itä-kommentaattoreiksi Ylen ohjelmiin ja Helsingin Sanomiin valittuihin asiantuntijoihin. Edesmennyt professori Jaakko Hämeen-Anttila oli vasemmistoliiton julkikannattaja ja keskiaikaisen arabialaisen runouden tutkija, josta journalistit leipoivat modernin islamin yleisasiantuntijan. Hän vähätteli uupumatta vuosikymmenten ajan islamistisen ideologian ja sen innoittaman terrorismin vaarallisuutta, kuten punavihreät poliitikotkin. Yksi Hämeen-Anttilan seuraajista median suosikkina on esimerkiksi Suomen Lähi-idän instituutin johtaja Susanne Dahlgren. Hän on taistolaisen Sosialistisen Opiskelijaliiton SOL:n entinen puheenjohtaja. Tätä ideologiaa huokuu yhä tänäkin päivänä suuri osa instituutissa ja Suomessa muutenkin harjoitetusta Lähi-idän tutkimuksesta, kaikkien näiden timostewartien, hannujuusoloiden ja kumppanien tekemiset.

Heidän perussanomansa on pysynyt samana 1970-luvulta alkaen, kun Neuvostoliitto tuki palestiinalaisia ja sen myötä länsimaiden vasemmistokin lähti lietsomaan synkkää vihaa Lähi-idän ainoaa demokraattista oikeusvaltiota Israelia kohtaan. Asioista kannattaisi puhua niiden oikeilla nimillä. Useimpien Lähi-itä -tutkijoiden oikea titteli on punavihreä Palestiina-aktivisti.

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Yksi pitkän marssin varhaisimmista etapeista Suomessa oli Tampereen yliopisto. Ville Pernaa kuvaa teoksessaan Pimeä vuosikymmen, kuinka sen tiedotusopin laitos muodostui vasemmistolaisuuden keskukseksi. Se alkoi erikoisesta tapahtumasarjasta, jolla Kaarle Nordenstreng nimitettiin professoriksi pätevämmät hakijat ohittaen. Hänellä ei ollut journalismin tutkimuksesta edes väitöskirjaa. Hän oli väitellyt tohtoriksi psykologiasta. Taistolaisopiskelijoiden painostus vaikutti valintaprosessiin. Vuonna 1971 vastanimetty 31-vuotias professori ryhtyi toimiin ja tulevien toimittajien tutkintovaatimuksiin ilmestyi V. I. Leninin teos Ideologinen työ ja F. V. Konstantinovin Marxilais-leniniläisen filosofian perusteet. Nordenstreng koulutti suomalaisia toimittajia lähes neljäkymmentä vuotta. Luet, kuuntelet ja katselet heidän ja heidän valitsemiensa asiantuntijoiden näkemyksiä maailmasta joka päivä. Myös Helsingin yliopistossa viestinnän opiskelijat tenttivät 1970-luvulla Leninin Ideologisen työn. Tämän lisäksi tulevat journalistit laitettiin lukemaan Neuvostoliiton kommunistisen puolueen johtoon kuuluneen Otto Ville Kuusisen kirjoituksia "lehdistön vapaudesta ja vastuusta".

Nykyään uusia toimittajia kouluttaa Helsingin yliopistossa esimerkiksi viestinnän professori Anu Kantola. Hän on entinen vihreä puolueaktiivi. Helsingin Sanomat antaa Kantolalle uupumatta palstatilaa kehystäen entisen puoluepukarin ja aktivistitutkijan puolueettomaksi asiantuntijaksi.

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Woke-koulutuksiin on syydetty resursseja myös joissakin yrityksissä, mutta lopultakin aika vähän. Elinkeinoelämä on pitänyt pintansa, kuten se pääosin piti aikaisemminkin. Suomen puolustusvoimiin Dutschken haaveksima pitkä marssi ei myöskään ole ulottunut. Hänen kotimaansa Saksa sen sijaan ajoi käytännössä armeijansa alas, mikä on osoittautunut kammottavaksi virheeksi, kuten myös ydinvoimasta luopuminen. Varsin vähän punavihreää ideologisoitumista huomaan myös oikeuslaitoksessa. Vasemmistolaisten professoreiden opetukset karisevat nopeasti, kun ihminen lähtee oikeisiin töihin ja kohtaa ilmatiiviin seminaarihuoneen ulkopuolisen todellisuuden. Puhun tässä myös omasta kokemuksestani.

Virkamieskunnassa asiat eivät ole niin hyvin. Lustraatio jäi Suomessa aikanaan tekemättä Neuvostoliiton romahtamisen jälkeen, toisin kuin Baltiassa ja Itä-Euroopassa. Suomettumisen ja sitä seuranneen jälkisuomettumisen myötä virkakunnassa on paljon menneiden vuosikymmenten vasemmistohegemonian mukaisesti toimivia YYA-ihmisiä. Heillä on keinonsa kampittaa ja hidastaa demokraattisesti valittujen kansanedustajien ja hallituksen tavoitteiden toteuttamista. Yksi usein käytetty väline on vedota ihmisoikeuksiin tai EU-oikeuteen. Oikeasti tämä tarkoittaa vasemmistolaisten yliopistotutkijoiden tarkoitushakuisia tulkintoja Suomen kansainvälisistä ja EU-oikeudellisista velvoitteista.

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Muutoksen tuulet ovat puhaltamassa ja pitkä marssi on vihdoin pysähtynyt. Zeitgeist, ajanhenki, on muuttunut nopeasti. Venäjän vuonna 2022 aloittaman sodan myötä suomalaisten ja muiden eurooppalaisten on ollut pakko havahtua vuosikymmeniä kestäneestä harhaisesta toiveajattelusta, punavihreästä pasifismista ja naiivista idealismista yleensäkin. Nato-jäsenyyden myötä Suomikin on vihdoin osa Yhdysvaltojen johtamaa demokraattisten maiden rintamaa, emme enää epämääräinen Venäjän rajamaa.

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Journalistit ja vasemmistolaiset yliopistotutkijat ja aktivistit yrittävät epätoivoisesti kehystää somessa käydyn kansalaiskeskustelun "öyhöttämiseksi", "vihapuheeksi", "äärioikeistolaisuudeksi", "konservatiivisuudeksi" ja "fasismiksi". Eräs somen meeminikkari onkin loistavasti tiivistänyt yhteen lauseeseen suomalaisten journalistien sananvapauskäsityksen: "Sananvapautta meille, sananvastuuta teille."
Verkkouutiset (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/punavihrea-kupla-puhkeaa/#7bff142d) 9.12.2024

Valitettavasti en voi yhtyä Tontin optimistiseen loppupäätelmään muutoksen tuulista ja pitkän marssin pysähtymisestä. Ei wokekaan täältä mihinkään katoa, vaikka madaltaisi profiiliaan ja kiistäisi olemassaolonsa. Paremminkin saman vasemmistolaisen sateenvarjon alle kerääntyy yhä enemmän politiikkoja ja vaikuttajia, kuten esimerkiksi Kokoomuksen johtohenkilöiden vasemmistoa myötäilevistä lausunnoista huomaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 09.12.2024, 22:08:41
Quote from: Roope on 09.12.2024, 17:58:45
Jarkko Tontin pitkä mutta erinomaisen hyvä kirjoitus, joka kiteyttää oivallisesti monia päässäni pyörittelemiäni teemoja.

Lukeminen kannattaa.

QuoteJarkko Tontti: Punavihreä kupla puhkeaa
Tätä ideologiaa huokuu yhä tänäkin päivänä suuri osa instituutissa ja Suomessa muutenkin harjoitetusta Lähi-idän tutkimuksesta, kaikkien näiden timostewartien, hannujuusoloiden ja kumppanien tekemiset.

Heidän perussanomansa on pysynyt samana 1970-luvulta alkaen, kun Neuvostoliitto tuki palestiinalaisia ja sen myötä länsimaiden vasemmistokin lähti lietsomaan synkkää vihaa Lähi-idän ainoaa demokraattista oikeusvaltiota Israelia kohtaan. Asioista kannattaisi puhua niiden oikeilla nimillä. Useimpien Lähi-itä -tutkijoiden oikea titteli on punavihreä Palestiina-aktivisti.

Aloin hihitellä itsekseni, kun YLE käytti Syyria-asiantuntijana Hannu Juusolaa, joka oli myös A-studiossa ja kymppiuutisissa oli juuri Timo R. Stewart...

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 09.12.2024, 23:08:04
Tonttihan ei puhu punavihreyden, woken ja intersektionaalisen feminismin vähenemisestä, vaan pysähtymisestä. Tontti puki kyllä sanoiksi sen mitä itsekin ajattelen. Allekirjoitan 99%:sti.
Nyt pitäisi vaan löytää keinot, miten näistä stewarteista päästään eroon.
Pitkä marssi läpi instituutioiden?
Lyhyempi toimisi niin, että mennään kokoomukseen, vihreisiin, kepuun, demareihin ja muutetaan niitä sisältäpäin. Vaatisi kyllä uhrimieltä. Vino... vihreä in name only...  ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:10:47
Quote from: ikuturso on 09.12.2024, 16:06:08
Mitä jos kerrankin vastaisit.

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Jos tarvii selittää mitä eroa on ihmisellä ja muilla eläimillä, niin todellakin se keskustelu on jankkaamista.

Quote from: Roope on 09.12.2024, 17:58:45
Jarkko Tontin pitkä mutta erinomaisen hyvä kirjoitus, joka kiteyttää oivallisesti monia päässäni pyörittelemiäni teemoja.

Lukeminen kannattaa.

Tontti taas vauhdissa. Wokea nähdään joka paikassa. Miksi sitoutumaton on pitänyt ehdokkaan kohdalla laittaa lainausmerkkeihin? Jos et kuulu puolueeseen olet yleensä sitoutumaton ehdokas. Hesari on taas tuttuun tapaan punavihreää mädätystä, puhavihreä usko...

Kaikille maailmaa seuraaville on varmaan tiedossa Scheininin ja Patomäen poliittiset kannat kun he kommentoivat asioita julkisuudessa. Samoin kuin vaikkapa Aki Kangasharjun, Juhani Huopaisen tai Matti Virenin. Lukijan vastuulla on tulkita näiden poliittisesti värittyneiden asiantuntijoiden lauseita.

Kaikki Israelista tietysti edes hiukan eri mieltä Tontin kanssa (joka on asunut Israelissa hei, ja nähnyt raketit) olevat ovat tietysti väärässä, kommunisteja, marxisteja, sosialisteja, punikkeja, mädättäjiä tai ainakin taistolaisia (joita Suomessa ei juurikaan edes ole, eikä koskaan ole edes ollut merkittävästi. Samoin kommarien suosio on ollut vaikka kuinka pitkään naurettavan alhaalla)

Tontin haukkumat Stewart ja Kantola ovat molemmat olleet Tieto-Finlandia -ehdokkaina tai voittaneet. Tontilla ei taida merkittävää menestystä olla viimeisen 15 vuoden ajalta? No, ehkä näillä töräyksillä saa sitten epätoivoisimpia lukijoita kerättyä. Ainakin heikkolahjaisempiin näköjään menee läpi.

Noin muuten teksti olikin tuttua juttua. Herran vuonna 2024 puhutaan Tampereen yliopiston kommunisteista, Pirkkalan monisteesta (apua!), 1970-luvun taistolaisista jne. Mitään tekemistä näillä ei nykymaailman kanssa ole, mutta uppoaa taas kuin kuuma veitsi tiettyyn kansanosaan. Siihen joka joka ilta kurkkaa sängyn alle että onko siellä kommunisteja, ennen kuin murisee "verotus on varkautta" ja painuu unille.

En tiedä miten "Yle kuriin nyt" kansalaisaloitteen äänet on joku merkki jostain, koska sitä puffattiin niin paljon persujen ja muun oikeiston about joka mediassa, että ihmehän se olisi jos tuo ei olisi ääniä kerännyt.
Ottawan sopimuksesta irtautuminen keräsi tuon vaadittavan määrän kai päivässä. Jos kansalaisaloitteen 50 000 nimeä on joku merkki, niin "kasvava määrä" suomalaisia on aikoja sitten saanut tarpeekseen turkistarhauksesta (kahdesti), turpeenpoltosta, leikatusta indeksistä ja ennen kaikkea homojen syrjinnästä (160 000 nimeä...)

Jos nyt mietitään että "virkakunnassa on paljon menneiden vuosikymmenten vasemmistohegemonian mukaisesti toimivia YYA-ihmisiä." kuten Tontti väittää. Kun Neuvostoliitto hajosi vuonna 1991, niin siitä minun laskujeni mukaan on 33 vuotta aikaa. Kaikki tällöin virassa olleet 35-vuotiaat ja vanhemmat ovat eläkkeellä. Että mikähän se "merkittävä määrä" näitä YYA-miehiä on? Nykyiset töihin tulevat ikäluokat eivät muista mitään Neuvostoliittoa, eivät ole koskaan eläneet sen aikaa eivätkä varsinkaan tiedä ketä ovat taistolaiset.

Vai ajatteleeko Tontti nyt ihan oikeasti että esim. joku 1990-luvulla syntynyt on taistolainen? Tai siis, onhan joku sinimustakin, mutta noin niinkun merkittävässä määrin?

Homman fiksut voisi tietysti kertoa että ketkä ovat sellaisia puolueettomia analysoijia kenen ääntä kannattaisi kuunnella Lähi-idän kriisissä? Tänne on esim. jaettu usein täysin sekopääuskisten mietteitä, jotka tietysti ovat täysin puolueettomia ja varmasti tiukan analyyttisia että missä mennään.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JT on 09.12.2024, 23:24:44
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:10:47

Tontin haukkumat Stewart ja Kantola ovat molemmat olleet Tieto-Finlandia -ehdokkaina tai voittaneet. Tontilla ei taida merkittävää menestystä olla viimeisen 15 vuoden ajalta? No, ehkä näillä töräyksillä saa sitten epätoivoisimpia lukijoita kerättyä. Ainakin heikkolahjaisempiin näköjään menee läpi.



Mitäs se Tontti kirjoittikaan näistä:

"Tilanne on vain pahentunut woke-ideologian levitessä kulttuurimaailman instituutioihin. Taiteen arvottaminen, tukeminen ja palkitseminen on lyhyessä ajassa muuttunut taiteilijan identiteettiin perustuvaksi. Sukupuoli, seksuaalisuus, etnisyys ja vammaisuus ovat mittareita, joilla kulttuuria arvioidaan. Vanhavasemmistolainen perusvire on toki mukana myös: Iso osa taiteen julkisesta tuesta on käytännössä ylimääräistä puoluetukea vihreille ja vasemmistoliitolle."

Naulan kantaan!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 09.12.2024, 23:34:50
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:10:47
Tontti taas vauhdissa. Wokea nähdään joka paikassa. Miksi sitoutumaton on pitänyt ehdokkaan kohdalla laittaa lainausmerkkeihin? Jos et kuulu puolueeseen olet yleensä sitoutumaton ehdokas.

Et taida olla ollut koskaan missään vaaleissa ehdokkaana?

Jos sitoutumattomuus olisi neutraalia, sitoutumaton voisi olla varmaan millä tahansa listalla. Kuitenkin sitoutumatonkin valitsee pyrkiä tietyn puolueen listoille. Vastaavasti puolue yleensä valitsee ehdokkaat jäsenistöstään. Jos jäsenistä saataisiin lista täyteen, miksi ottaa yhtään henkilöä puolueen ulkopuolelta, ellei tämä henkilö istu arvomaailmaltaan puolueen pirtaan about täydellisesti.

Jos vaikka Simon Elo pyrkisi vihreän puolueen listoille sitoutumattomana, niin tokko ovet aukeaisi, kuten ei varmaan Tuukka Kurullekaan. Ei varmaankaan nuivia lausuneelle Teemu Selänteellekään, vaikka tämä julkkiksena toisi melko varmaan ison äänipotin.

Jos on vihreiden listalla, on umpipunavihreä arvoiltaan, oli jäsen tai ei.

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:45:14
Quote from: JT on 09.12.2024, 23:24:44
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:10:47

Tontin haukkumat Stewart ja Kantola ovat molemmat olleet Tieto-Finlandia -ehdokkaina tai voittaneet. Tontilla ei taida merkittävää menestystä olla viimeisen 15 vuoden ajalta? No, ehkä näillä töräyksillä saa sitten epätoivoisimpia lukijoita kerättyä. Ainakin heikkolahjaisempiin näköjään menee läpi.



Mitäs se Tontti kirjoittikaan näistä:

"Tilanne on vain pahentunut woke-ideologian levitessä kulttuurimaailman instituutioihin. Taiteen arvottaminen, tukeminen ja palkitseminen on lyhyessä ajassa muuttunut taiteilijan identiteettiin perustuvaksi. Sukupuoli, seksuaalisuus, etnisyys ja vammaisuus ovat mittareita, joilla kulttuuria arvioidaan. Vanhavasemmistolainen perusvire on toki mukana myös: Iso osa taiteen julkisesta tuesta on käytännössä ylimääräistä puoluetukea vihreille ja vasemmistoliitolle."

Naulan kantaan!

Eli Stewart, valkoinen mies, (seksuaalisesti suuntautumisesta en tiedä) ja Kantola, valkoinen kantasuomalainen nainen (seksuaalisesta suuntautumisesta en tiedä) täyttävät varmasti näistä kriteereistä tosiaan monta.

Edellisen Tieto-Finlandia voittajat oikein huutavat vähemmistöjä:

Antti Järvi
Ville-Juhani Sutinen
Osmo Räihälä
Marko Tikka ja Seija-Leena Nevala

Äkkiseltään listalla ei näy yhtään ulkomaalaista nimeä muuten.
Enemmän kuulostaa siltä että Tontin kannattamien kirjailijoiden kirjat ei oikein ole riittävän hyviä.

Quote from: ikuturso on 09.12.2024, 23:34:50
Et taida olla ollut koskaan missään vaaleissa ehdokkaana?

Jos sitoutumattomuus olisi neutraalia, sitoutumaton voisi olla varmaan millä tahansa listalla. Kuitenkin sitoutumatonkin valitsee pyrkiä tietyn puolueen listoille. Vastaavasti puolue yleensä valitsee ehdokkaat jäsenistöstään. Jos jäsenistä saataisiin lista täyteen, miksi ottaa yhtään henkilöä puolueen ulkopuolelta, ellei tämä henkilö istu arvomaailmaltaan puolueen pirtaan about täydellisesti.

Jos vaikka Simon Elo pyrkisi vihreän puolueen listoille sitoutumattomana, niin tokko ovet aukeaisi, kuten ei varmaan Tuukka Kurullekaan. Ei varmaankaan nuivia lausuneelle Teemu Selänteellekään, vaikka tämä julkkiksena toisi melko varmaan ison äänipotin.

Jos on vihreiden listalla, on umpipunavihreä arvoiltaan, oli jäsen tai ei.

Boldattuun: kerron salaisuuden, niin voit ollakin. Tottakai henkilö valitsee sen puolueen mitä lähellä on, ainakin hiukan. Tai vähiten huonon. Mitä järkeä olisi hakeutua listalle, jos valinnan jälkeen ei ole yhdestäkään asiasta ryhmän kanssa samaa mieltä?

Olen ollut ehdolla, ja juurikin sitoutumattomana. Sinulle taitaa nyt sitoutumattoman käsite olla vähän vieras.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:47:28
Quote from: Caucasian on 09.12.2024, 23:30:13

Kommarit palkitsevat kommareita... tieto-finlandia... kuka näitä oikeasti arvostaa? No toiset kommarit

Ai kommarit? Tarkoitit varmaan taistolaiset? Nyt tarkkana näissä! Somessa saa heti näpeilleen jos käyttää 70-luvun kommereista väärää termiä! Kuuntelevat varmaan Agit Propia samalla kun palkitsevat!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 09.12.2024, 23:57:01
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:45:14
Olen ollut ehdolla, ja juurikin sitoutumattomana. Sinulle taitaa nyt sitoutumattoman käsite olla vähän vieras.

Eli siis "sitoutumattomana".

Olen ollut kolmissa vaaleissa ehdokkaana. Puolueen jäsenenä. Meidän listoillamme ei ole ollut ketään sitotumatonta, koska jos ei maksa jäsenmaksua, ei ole asiaa listalle. Kerran kaverini meni sitoutumattomana toisen puolueen listalle, kun oma pieni yhdistyksensä ei laittanut sinä vuonna yhden hengen listaa. Sitten omassa kunnassa on ollut vuosia yksi sitoutumaton kokkari. Ei saanut työnsä vuoksi ottaa minkään puolueen jäsenkirjaa. Silti kaikki häneltä palveluita ostavat tiesivät, että tämä oli kokovartalokokkari, vaikka vaaleissa oli "sitoutumaton".

Ja olen tainnut olla pari kolme kertaa myös vaalipäällikkönä, varasellaisena myös ek-vaaleissa. Että älä sinä tule minua opettamaan, "sitoutumaton".

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 10.12.2024, 00:10:45
Quote from: ikuturso on 09.12.2024, 23:57:01
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:45:14
Olen ollut ehdolla, ja juurikin sitoutumattomana. Sinulle taitaa nyt sitoutumattoman käsite olla vähän vieras.

Eli siis "sitoutumattomana".

Olen ollut kolmissa vaaleissa ehdokkaana. Puolueen jäsenenä. Meidän listoillamme ei ole ollut ketään sitotumatonta, koska jos ei maksa jäsenmaksua, ei ole asiaa listalle. Kerran kaverini meni sitoutumattomana toisen puolueen listalle, kun oma pieni yhdistyksensä ei laittanut sinä vuonna yhden hengen listaa. Sitten omassa kunnassa on ollut vuosia yksi sitoutumaton kokkari. Ei saanut työnsä vuoksi ottaa minkään puolueen jäsenkirjaa. Silti kaikki häneltä palveluita ostavat tiesivät, että tämä oli kokovartalokokkari, vaikka vaaleissa oli "sitoutumaton".

Ja olen tainnut olla pari kolme kertaa myös vaalipäällikkönä, varasellaisena myös ek-vaaleissa. Että älä sinä tule minua opettamaan, "sitoutumaton".

-i-

Monella paikkakunnalla listat ei tule täyteen. Voi olla miljoona syytä miksi ei halua jäsenkirjaa ottaa, itselle syy on sama kuin miksi en kuulu kirkkoon.

Ja olen sitoutumaton ihan ilman lainausmerkkejä. Voisin hyvinkin olla 2-3 eri puolueessa ehdolla, mutten minkään niistä jäsenenä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JT on 10.12.2024, 00:11:44
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:45:14

Tieto-Finlandia voittajat oikein huutavat vähemmistöjä:



Eräs vasemmistolainen valtiomies totesi aikoinaan jotenkin niin, ettei sillä ole väliä kuka äänestää, vaan sillä kuka laskee äänet.
"
Kansanedustaja Pekka Haavistolla (vihr.) on edessään lukemisurakka, sillä hän valitsee tietokirjallisuuden Finlandia-palkinnon saajan kuuden teoksen joukosta.
"

- On vihreä
- On homo
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 10.12.2024, 00:20:20
Quote from: JT on 10.12.2024, 00:11:44
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:45:14

Tieto-Finlandia voittajat oikein huutavat vähemmistöjä:



Eräs vasemmistolainen valtiomies totesi aikoinaan jotenkin niin, ettei sillä ole väliä kuka äänestää, vaan sillä kuka laskee äänet.
"
Kansanedustaja Pekka Haavistolla (vihr.) on edessään lukemisurakka, sillä hän valitsee tietokirjallisuuden Finlandia-palkinnon saajan kuuden teoksen joukosta.
"

- On vihreä
- On homo

Totta. Valitsijoissa onkin ollut sellaisia sorrettujen vähemmistöjen edustajia kuin Matti Apunen, Matti Rönkä ja Nalle Wahlroos.

Siellä sentään on yksi ei-suomalainen nimikin, eli Razmyar
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 10.12.2024, 06:27:58
Velkun "argumentointi" on joko huonontunut tai ollut koko ajan huonoa. Tieto-Finlandia-ehdokkuuteen vetoaminen ei ole asia-argumentti vaan puhdasta auktoriteettiin vetoamista, jossa vielä on ikävä politisoitunut sivuvivahde. Samoin Tontin palkintojen saamattomuus ei ole asia-argumentti. Tulisi keskittyä siihen, mitä Tontti kirjoituksessaan sanoo.

Sen verran röllähtävää tekstiä, etten odota tämän sankarin jaksavan kauaa, viimeistään joulusuklaat väsyttävät negatiivisuudelle rakentavan epä-asiakirjoittajan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 10.12.2024, 06:36:58
Quote from: Bona on 10.12.2024, 06:27:58
Velkun "argumentointi" on joko huonontunut tai ollut koko ajan huonoa. Tieto-Finlandia-ehdokkuuteen vetoaminen ei ole asia-argumentti vaan puhdasta auktoriteettiin vetoamista, jossa vielä on ikävä politisoitunut sivuvivahde. Samoin Tontin palkintojen saamattomuus ei ole asia-argumentti. Tulisi keskittyä siihen, mitä Tontti kirjoituksessaan sanoo.

Sen verran röllähtävää tekstiä, etten odota tämän sankarin jaksavan kauaa, viimeistään joulusuklaat väsyttävät negatiivisuudelle rakentavan epä-asiakirjoittajan.


Sen sijaan taistolaiset ja 70-luvun Pirkkalan moniste on edelleen hyviä argumentteja johonkin? OK! Varmaan vielä 2050-luvullakin joku ottaa Pirkkalan monisteen ja neuvostoajan päättäjät keskusteluun todisteeksi kommareista.

Minähän olen tämän ketjun positiivisin kirjoittaja   8)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 10.12.2024, 09:41:13
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:45:14
Edellisen Tieto-Finlandia voittajat oikein huutavat vähemmistöjä:

Antti Järvi

Kyllä, huutaa vähemmistöä:

-on homo
-on työskennellyt Vihreän Langan toimittajana.

Tämä ei tietenkään tarkoita sitä, etteikö Järvi olisi ansainnut Finlandia-palkintoaan. En ole lukenut teosta, mutta sen aihe on ainakin mielenkiintoinen. Luovutettuun Karjalaan jääneet on aihe, jonka luulisi kiinnostavan kansallismielisiä ja isänmaallisiakin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Will Rogers on 10.12.2024, 09:54:21
Quote from: Betonikostaja on 10.12.2024, 09:41:13
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:45:14
Edellisen Tieto-Finlandia voittajat oikein huutavat vähemmistöjä:

Antti Järvi

Kyllä, huutaa vähemmistöä:

-on homo
-on työskennellyt Vihreän Langan toimittajana.

Tämä ei tietenkään tarkoita sitä, etteikö Järvi olisi ansainnut Finlandia-palkintoaan. En ole lukenut teosta, mutta sen aihe on ainakin mielenkiintoinen. Luovutettuun Karjalaan jääneet on aihe, jonka luulisi kiinnostavan kansallismielisiä ja isänmaallisiakin.

Eihän sinne jääneet kuin kommunistit -- oli ensimmäinen ajatukseni kun tämän luin. Ja niinhän se oli tässäkin tapauksessa: "Sen tiedän, että samalle paikkakunnalle jäi monia, joilla oli ideologista taustaa ja jotka olivat toimineet kommunistisessa liikkeessä joko salaa tai julkisesti 1920-luvulla." -Antti Järvi

Mitäpä muuta odottaa Vihreän Langan homotoimittajan isoisoisästä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 10.12.2024, 11:46:27
Quote from: Velkku on 09.12.2024, 23:10:47
Kaikille maailmaa seuraaville on varmaan tiedossa Scheininin ja Patomäen poliittiset kannat kun he kommentoivat asioita julkisuudessa. Samoin kuin vaikkapa Aki Kangasharjun, Juhani Huopaisen tai Matti Virenin. Lukijan vastuulla on tulkita näiden poliittisesti värittyneiden asiantuntijoiden lauseita.

Miten tuo voi olla selvää "kaikille maailmaa seuraaville", kun journalistit eivät juurikaan kerro niistä, kun siteeraavat näitä asiantuntijoita? Nuo poliittiset kytkökset kun ovat arka paikka joillekin asiantuntijoille:

https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000006004788.html

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/halla-aho-muistutti-tutkintapyyntoja-tehtailevan-martin-scheininin-taustasta-kommunistien-keskuskomiteassa-scheinin-teki-tutkintapyynnon-nain-asiassa-kavi/

Muuten, eikö Scheininilla ole nykyään Vihreiden jäsenkirja?  Eikö moinen ole mainitsemisen arvoinen asia, kun journalisti kirjoittaa hänen näkemyksistään poliittisen toiminnan juridiikkaan liittyvissä asioissa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 10.12.2024, 12:49:31
Quote from: Siili on 10.12.2024, 11:46:27
Miten tuo voi olla selvää "kaikille maailmaa seuraaville", kun journalistit eivät juurikaan kerro niistä, kun siteeraavat näitä asiantuntijoita? Nuo poliittiset kytkökset kun ovat arka paikka joillekin asiantuntijoille:

https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000006004788.html

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/halla-aho-muistutti-tutkintapyyntoja-tehtailevan-martin-scheininin-taustasta-kommunistien-keskuskomiteassa-scheinin-teki-tutkintapyynnon-nain-asiassa-kavi/

Muuten, eikö Scheininilla ole nykyään Vihreiden jäsenkirja?  Eikö moinen ole mainitsemisen arvoinen asia, kun journalisti kirjoittaa hänen näkemyksistään poliittisen toiminnan juridiikkaan liittyvissä asioissa?

No sen takia se on selvää "kaikille maailmaa seuraaville" että kuten itsekin nostit esille, niin näitä kytköksiä jankataan joka paikassa ja koko ajan  :D Ihan lehdissä asti. Suomessa on niin pienet piirit ja niin vähän minkäkin alan asiantuntijoita (paitsi tietysti Hommalta löytyisi montakin asiantuntijaa kertomaan miten asiat tulisi hoitaa), että kun ne samat naamat pyörii lehdissä ja telkkarissa, niin kyllä vastaanottajallakin on joku vastuu.

Myös Yle on nostanut sen esille jutussa

https://yle.fi/a/3-9819874 (https://yle.fi/a/3-9819874)

QuoteSKDL:n lainopilliseksi sihteeriksi
Scheinin opiskeli ensin biologiaa, sitten oikeustieteitä Turun yliopistossa, ja oli aktiivinen vasemmistolaisessa Turun Akateemisessa Sosialistiseurassa. Valmistuttuaan oikeustieteellisestä 1982 hän työskenteli eduskunnan apulaiseduskuntasihteerinä sekä SKDL:n eduskuntaryhmän juristina.

Sitten on erikseen se, että onko esim. henkilön kommunistitaustalla merkitystä kun puhutaan vaikka korona-ajan rajoituksista ja mitä perustuslaki niistä sanoo? Kuuluuko tällöin jotenkin uutisessa mainita, että niin mutta hän oli aiemmin hei kommari! (tai olkoon vieläkin, kuka tietää)

Hei Dmitri Peskov oli uutisissa taas kertomassa Ukrainan sodasta. Oli kyllä mielenkiintoista juttua. Olikohan sillä jotain kytköksiä jompaan kumpaan suuntaan..? Tietääkö joku?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 10.12.2024, 13:22:26
Quote from: Velkku on 10.12.2024, 12:49:31
No sen takia se on selvää "kaikille maailmaa seuraaville" että kuten itsekin nostit esille, niin näitä kytköksiä jankataan joka paikassa ja koko ajan  :D

Lihavoidun tekstin suhteen olemme eri mieltä. Kyllä näitä mainintoja pitää etsiä ja ne löytyvät vain artikkeleista, joissa käsitellään henkilöä itseään, joko myötäilevissä human interest-tyylisissä artikkeleissa (esim. poimimasi Yle-uutinen, alla), tai sitten poliittisten vastustajien kirjoittamissa kriittisissä ja usein poleemisissa artikkeleissa.  "Neutraalien" uutisartikkelien asiantuntijarooleissa heidän kytköksensä tuodaan esiin erittäin harvoin.

QuoteMyös Yle on nostanut sen esille jutussa
https://yle.fi/a/3-9819874 (https://yle.fi/a/3-9819874)

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 10.12.2024, 14:05:07
Tuodaanko neutraaleissa kommentoissa siis yleensä vastaajan poliittinen kanta ilmi? Jos kysytään vaikka poliisijohtajan mielipidettä johonkin niin onko siellä että "ylikomisario xxx on kokoomuksen jäsen". Tai jonkun Markku Joki-Sipilän kommentoidessa jotain niin lukeeko siellä että mitkä ovat hänen poliittiset kytkökset?

Asiantuntijaroolilla pitäisi olla merkitystä vastaukseen.

Edelleen odotan täällä listaa niistä oikeistolaisia kaunokirjailijoista tai oikeisto Lähi-idän asiantuntijoista joita kuunnella.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 10.12.2024, 15:26:27
Quote from: Velkku on 10.12.2024, 14:05:07
Tuodaanko neutraaleissa kommenteissa siis yleensä vastaajan poliittinen kanta ilmi? Jos kysytään vaikka poliisijohtajan mielipidettä johonkin niin onko siellä että "ylikomisario xxx on kokoomuksen jäsen". Tai jonkun Markku Joki-Sipilän kommentoidessa jotain niin lukeeko siellä että mitkä ovat hänen poliittiset kytkökset?

Omalla maailmankatsomuksella on toisinaan suurempi, toisinaan vähäisempi merkitys asiantuntijan tulkintaan. Esimerkiksi juridiikan alalla eri asiantuntijoiden näkemyksien hajonta on huomattavasti suurempi kuin ydinfysiikan alalla.

Aihepiirissä, jossa tulkinnanvara on suuri, asiantuntijan henkilökohtaisella mutulla (ml. maailmankatsomuksella) on suurempi merkitys kuin sellaisessa, joissa tätä tulkinnanvaraa ei ole tai se on pieni. Jos aitoa tulkinnanvaraa on, neutraaleissa analyyseissä pitäisi (teoriassa) tuoda se esiin ja kertoa mahdollisista näkemykseen vaikuttavista sidonnaisuuksista.  Moinen ei ole käytännössä mahdollista lyhyissä uutisartikkeleissa, mutta mielestäni tarpeellista pidemmissä, esimerkiksi perustuslakivaliokunnan toimintaa puivissa, analyyseissä. Jostainhan se "maailman seuraaminen" on aloitettava, ja tuollainen analyysi on jollekin seuraajalle se ensimmäinen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Reino Rivimies on 12.12.2024, 10:55:33
Keskusteltuani erään woketyyppisen "henkisen yliopistotyön tekijän" kanssa. Aloin pohtimaan ajatusta. Että miten kävisi. Jos vihervasemmistoväen kannattajat. Siis mediaväki, yliopisto- ja tutkijaporukka, sateenkaarijengi, ulkomaalaistaustaiset puolisoineen, feministit, vammaiset, pudokkaat ym. perustaisivat oman ihannevaltion. Ja yrittäisivät siellä tulla toimeen omillaan, omine ihanteineen ja omine sääntöineen. Mitä siitä tulisi? Kuolisivatko pian nälkään ja kylmyyteen ideologioineen. Koska kukaan ei tekisi aineellisen perustoimeentulonsa eteen mitään muuta kuin "mittaamattoman arvokasta henkistä työtä". Sensijaan siinä toisessa valtiossa. Johon tavalliset suorittavan portaan perinteiset heteroperheet jäisivät, menisi paremmin kuin koskaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.12.2024, 11:09:54
Quote from: Reino Rivimies on 12.12.2024, 10:55:33Että miten kävisi. Jos vihervasemmistoväen kannattajat ... perustaisivat oman ihannevaltion.

Kultin pomo harrastaisi seksiä kaikkien naisten kanssa, ja utopian toimimattomuus kävisi nopeasti ilmeiseksi kaikille osallistujille, koska vapaamatkustajia olisi liikaa.

Quote from: https://www.vice.com/en/article/failed-utopias-throughout-history-v25n1/Failed 'Utopias' Throughout History
...
(1901–1904)

Sointula - British Columbia

Finland has a long history of utopian thinking, sparked by some 18th-century brothers who founded a mystic-separatist sect and took it on a Northern European tour for 11 years. Since then, Finns have roamed the world, from Sierra Leone to Brazil, in search of a more idyllic life.

Sointula ("Place of Harmony"), on Malcolm Island off Canada's west coast, was one such place. Founded in 1901 by Matti Kurikka, a restless soul who had already failed to get a similar venture going in Queensland, Australia, Sointula was hobbled by the fact that none of its Finnish inhabitants were particularly good at fishing or being lumberjacks, which, in a place dominated by sea and forest, wasn't that helpful.

Kurikka also had some pretty radical ideas about sex and raising children. He believed the father of a child should be a man who had not lived with the mother and that people who lived with each other shouldn't have sex. Despite this, it was a devastating fire that ended the early settlement.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 12.12.2024, 12:46:42
Woke pohjalla on kommunismi kaikissa iljettävissä muodoissaan.

Quote

Juha-Pekka Väisänen (s. 16. syyskuuta 1966 Pieksämäki[1]) on suomalainen käsitetaiteilija ja toimittaja sekä entinen poliitikko. Hän oli Suomen Kommunistisen Puolueen (SKP) puheenjohtaja vuosina 2013–2022.

Ura
Väisänen valmistui Kuvataideakatemiasta kuvataiteen maisteriksi vuonna 1989.[2] Hän käyttää itsestään ammattinimikettä käsitetaiteilija tai käsite- ja performanssitaiteilija.[2] Väisänen oli PAND – Taiteilijat rauhan puolesta -järjestön puheenjohtaja (?–2013).[3] Väisänen on työskennellyt myös muun muassa kuvataideopettajana, postinlajittelijana, puhelinmyyjänä, siivoojana, talonmiehenä, tarjoilijana, tehdastyöläisenä ja toimittajana.[2]

Väisänen valittiin SKP:n johtoon kesäkuussa 2013, kun puoluetta vuodesta 1990 johtanut Yrjö Hakanen jäi pois tehtävästä.[4] Aiemmin Väisänen työskenteli SKP:n pääsihteerinä vuosina 2010–2013. Väisänen on Helsingin kulttuuri- ja kirjastolautakunnan jäsen (2013–).[5] Puolueen uudeksi johtajaksi tuli kesäkuussa 2022 Liisa Taskinen.[6]

Väisänen on ollut SKP:n ehdokkaana Helsingissä eduskuntavaaleissa 2007 (61 ääntä[7]) ja 2011 (42[8]) sekä kunnallisvaaleissa 2008 (36[9]) ja 2012 (45[10]). Hän oli ehdokkaana myös europarlamenttivaaleissa 2009 (217[11]) ja 2014 (503[12]). Eduskuntavaaleissa 1999 Väisänen oli Vasemmistoliiton ehdokas (135[13]). Hän oli Vasemmistoliiton jäsen ennen SKP:hen liittymistään.


https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha-Pekka_V%C3%A4is%C3%A4nen (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha-Pekka_V%C3%A4is%C3%A4nen)

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Artist´s Manifesto
JP (Juha-Pekka) Väisäsen taiteen tunnistaa valkoisista posliinikattauksista performanssikuvista ja kirjoituksista.


JP:n kiinnostus omistajuudesta, vuorovaikutuksesta ja sattumasta näkyy taiteessa.


Koko JP:n ajattelun ja tekemisen kattaus on nähtävillä taidenäyttelyissä. Käsitetaiteelliset  posliiniastiat ovat myytävänä tai lainassa omistajiltaan.


JP työskentelee edelleen vuonna 1990 kirjottamansa manifestiin mukaan ja on tehnyt performansseja 20 eri maassa nyt jo yli 30 vuoden ajan.


JP on valmistunut (´90) Kuvataideakatemiasta. Lisäksi JP on opiskellut lyhempiä aikoja mm. Meksikossa La Esmeraldassa Mexico Cityssä ja New Yorkin osavaltion taidekoulussa Albanyssä, Yhdysvalloissa.

JP on Muu ry:n ja Journalistiliiton jäsen.


YLE on julkaissut kaksi taiteilijadokumenttia JP:n taiteesta: 2005 "Kosmos, Taiteilijan Manifesti" ja "1995 Taiteilijaelämää, Ei myytävänä".


Taiteilijan manifestin mukaan Väisänen ei myy kollaasejaan, vaan tekee taidetta koska haluaa, että taide olisi kansan omaisuutta.

Kerran vuodessa JP tekee performanssin, jossa vie kollaasit ihmisten ilmoille ja antaa ne pois ilmaiseksi.

Performanssit tuottavat uutta posliinia kattaukseen sekä kuvia ja kirjoituksia näyttelyihin.


https://www.kattaus.art/SUOMEKSI-1/ (https://www.kattaus.art/SUOMEKSI-1/)

Kattaus.Art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8YODw4J2uI

Aika vaatii sitoutumista - SKP:n puheenjohtaja JP (Juha-Pekka) Väisäsen vappupuhe 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rus2UESfx_Q

[tweet]1847702457679565218[/tweet]

https://x.com/JPVAISANEN/status/1847702457679565218
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 12.12.2024, 13:49:05
Quote from: Reino Rivimies on 12.12.2024, 10:55:33
ulkomaalaistaustaiset puolisoineen,

Ja yrittäisivät siellä tulla toimeen omillaan, omine ihanteineen ja omine sääntöineen. Mitä siitä tulisi? Kuolisivatko pian nälkään ja kylmyyteen ideologioineen. Koska kukaan ei tekisi aineellisen perustoimeentulonsa eteen mitään muuta kuin "mittaamattoman arvokasta henkistä työtä". Sensijaan siinä toisessa valtiossa. Johon tavalliset suorittavan portaan perinteiset heteroperheet jäisivät, menisi paremmin kuin koskaan.

Yritetäänkö tässä nyt sanoa että ulkomaalaistaustaiset puolisoineen ei tee muuta kuin "henkistä työtä" Suomessa?

Tai tarkemmin, että vasemmistopuolueita äänestävät eivät tee oikeita töitä vaan näitä humpuukihommia?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.12.2024, 16:47:21
Todellisuuden kieltäjä.

Quote from: https://x.com/MartinScheininF/status/1866490668400468387Martin Scheinin FIN (@martinscheinin.bsky.social) @MartinScheininF

Lukusuositus. Ei koska @jarkkotontti tarina olisi totta vaan kun se kuvaa mitä voi tapahtua kun älykäs ihminen menettää illuusionsa. Jutun viittauksissa minuun on 5 faktavirhettä, isojakin. Mitäpä niistä. Isompi juttu on että kuvitelma woke-ideologiasta on huuhaata ja projektiota.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Äpyli on 12.12.2024, 19:21:49
Quote from: Reino Rivimies on 12.12.2024, 10:55:33
Keskusteltuani erään woketyyppisen "henkisen yliopistotyön tekijän" kanssa. Aloin pohtimaan ajatusta. Että miten kävisi. Jos vihervasemmistoväen kannattajat. Siis mediaväki, yliopisto- ja tutkijaporukka, sateenkaarijengi, ulkomaalaistaustaiset puolisoineen, feministit, vammaiset, pudokkaat ym. perustaisivat oman ihannevaltion. Ja yrittäisivät siellä tulla toimeen omillaan, omine ihanteineen ja omine sääntöineen. Mitä siitä tulisi? Kuolisivatko pian nälkään ja kylmyyteen ideologioineen. Koska kukaan ei tekisi aineellisen perustoimeentulonsa eteen mitään muuta kuin "mittaamattoman arvokasta henkistä työtä". Sensijaan siinä toisessa valtiossa. Johon tavalliset suorittavan portaan perinteiset heteroperheet jäisivät, menisi paremmin kuin koskaan.

Olen tätä itsekin pohtinut. Tyypillisesti nämä sosiaaliset liikkeet ja ohjelmat, joiden organisoinnin aste tietenkin vaihtelee, vievät erittäin paljon resursseja ja tuottavat vähän mitattavaa hyötyä (ellei kyse ole täysin vapaaehtoisesta työstä, mistä tässä ei nyt ole tietenkään kyse). Voisinpa väittää, että juuri kukaan tämän väen ulkopuolella oleva ei huomaisi mitään eroa, vaikka liikkeet ja ohjelmat lopahtaisivat yhden yön aikana. Se ei johtaisi minkäänlaiseen romahdukseen, ei edes pieneen pihinään. Sen sijaan yhteiskunnalle välttämättömien ja tärkeiden toimintojen häiriintyminen tuntuisi välittömästi, toiminnosta tietenkin riippuen. Joskus on vaikuttanut hieman siltä, että progressiivisuus on omittu näiden sosiaalisten liikkeiden "omaisuudeksi" eli halutaan sanoa, että yhteiskunta ikään kuin jämähtäisi paikoilleen tai rappeutuisi mikäli progressiivinen eturintama ei ajaisi milloin mitäkin pinnalla olevaa asiaa. Tämä on mielestäni harhaa, sillä yhteiskunta kyllä kehittyy muillakin tavoilla kuin sosiaalisten liikkeiden ja ohjelmien kautta.

Minä en sinänsä kritisoi sitä tavoitetta, että pyritään tekemään yhteiskunnasta keskimäärin parempi paikka kaikille. Mutta on perusteltua kysyä, ovatko nämä sosiaaliset liikkeet, ohjelmat ja reformit paras keino tähän, ja onko niiden joukoissa yliarvioitu oman panoksen vaikuttavuutta. Jos vaikka pohditaan BLM-liikettä, niin johtiko se oikeisiin, mitattaviin yhteiskunnallisiin suotuisiin muutoksiin? Tähän asti se on näyttäytynyt lähinnä siltä, että se on tarjonnut aktivisteille puuhailtavaa ja medianäkyvyyttä, sekä eliitille sädekehän kiillotusta. Kuitenkin se tuotti erittäin vahingollisiakin ilmiöitä eikä oikeastaan parantanut niitä asioita joihin se väitetysti halusi vaikuttaa. Eliitin roolista woken parissa on muuten moni pätevä tyyppi kirjoittanut kritiikkiä, esim. sosiologi Musa al-Gharbi kirjassaan "We Have Never Been Woke: The Cultural Condradictions of a New Elite". Al-Gharbin keskeinen teesi kirjassa on se, että eliitti hyötyy epätasa-arvosta vaikka yrittää väittää olevansa tasa-arvon asialla.

Mitä enemmän yhteiskunta sitouttaa resursseja sosiaalisiin ohjelmiin, sitä enemmän se vie resursseja pois muilta asioilta. Lisäksi kun jokainen sosiaalinen ohjelma on usein tutkimatonta aluetta, ei ole saatavilla tietoa sen vaikuttavuudesta ja ylipäätään tulosten näkyminen ja osoittaminen on parhaimmassakin tapauksessa hidasta. Ylipäätään ajatus siitä, että pystyttäisiin suuriin yhteiskunnallisiin virtauksiin merkittävästi vaikuttamaan on epärealistinen; siksi nämä sosiaaliset ohjelmat tuppaavat jatkumaan, venymään ja paukkumaan hieman kuten byrokratia, kun yritetään hallita monimutkaisuutta kaatamalla alati lisää resursseja vaikka tulokset olisivat kyseenalaisia. Vähenevän rajahyödyn laki on armoton. Usein vieläpä vedotaan tieteeseen, mutta yleensä on ajateltu, että tiede ei ole oikea taho sanomaan miten asioiden pitäisi (yhteiskunnallisesti) olla ja mitä asioita pitäisi tavoitella, sen sijaan sen avulla voidaan tutkia miten asiat toimivat tai mitä vaikutuksia muutoksilla on.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.12.2024, 21:41:19
Quote from: Äpyli on 12.12.2024, 19:21:49Minä en sinänsä kritisoi sitä tavoitetta, että pyritään tekemään yhteiskunnasta keskimäärin parempi paikka kaikille.

Tämäkin tavoite on aiheuttanut keskustelua.
- Kuka määrittelee mikä on "parempi"?
- Onko tämä enemmistön diktatuuria, jossa vähemmistöjen oikeudet uhrataan suuremman yhteisen hyvän alttarille?

Itse olen ajatellut asiaa tasavaltalaisesti, siis siten, että vähemmistöillä on tiettyjä tinkimättömiä oikeuksia, joita enemmistödiktatuuri ei voi uhata (esim. pakkolunastuksella). Silloin ei maksimoitaisi yhteistä hyvää, vaan minimoitaisiin  vähemmistöjen pahoinvointia, ja pienin vähemmistö on yhden hengen vähemmistö.

(Tragikoomisesti intersektuaalinen feminismi on pyrkivinään vähän samaan suuntaan, kuitenkin täysin eri menetelmillä, tuhoamalla läntökohtien tasa-arvon.)

Tämä meni vähän ohi nykyisestä keskustelunaiheesta. Pahoittelut siitä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 12.12.2024, 23:07:09
Quote from: Reino Rivimies on 12.12.2024, 10:55:33
Keskusteltuani erään woketyyppisen "henkisen yliopistotyön tekijän" kanssa. Aloin pohtimaan ajatusta. Että miten kävisi. Jos vihervasemmistoväen kannattajat[...]
CHAZ

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Capitol-Hill-Autonomous-Zone-CHAZ-fail (https://www.quora.com/Why-did-the-Capitol-Hill-Autonomous-Zone-CHAZ-fail)

QuoteUnsurprisingly they've been asking the outside world to help them.

QuoteThey are begging for "vegan food" and "soy-based alternatives". They're not just asking for any kind of food and supplies so they don't starve, they're asking for things specifically needed to maintain their lifestyles before this. They're both desperate and still incredibly entitled.

QuoteThis isn't a revolution, it's a bunch of spoiled brats ruining everyone's day and then acting like they're the victims.


https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-end-of-chaz (https://www.city-journal.org/article/the-end-of-chaz)

QuoteAs it turns out, however, maintaining public order is a complex undertaking and can't be replaced by academic symbolism.

QuoteAs CHAZ's experience demonstrates, when left-wing radicals shift from protest to governance, things fall apart.

QuoteUltimately, the problem of violence—and a dangerously naive understanding of policing—doomed the CHAZ. Over its 24-day history, the autonomous zone saw two gun homicides and four additional shooting victims. All the identified victims were black men—precisely the demographic for whom the CHAZ had claimed to offer protection.

QuoteIn the end, the homicide rate in the CHAZ turned out to be 1,216 per 100,000—nearly 50 times greater than Chicago's.

Eli kävisi juuri niin kuin voisi olettaa..
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Puuha-Pepe on 13.12.2024, 14:28:38
Osaisiko joku Homman woke-spesialisteista kertoa, miksi ohrapuuro on woke?  :o

https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/bb2fedac-ff9e-450b-9bba-28df9a1bc273 (https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/bb2fedac-ff9e-450b-9bba-28df9a1bc273)

QuoteKeskiviikkona Tukholmassa järjestetyn Nobel-illallisen tarjoilu on saanut osan ruotsalaisista raivon valtaan.

Tuohtumusta on herättänyt Nobel-gaalan jälkeisillä illallisilla tarjoiltu ohrapuuro. Esimerkiksi ruotsalaislehti Expressenin toimittaja Anna Gullberg kuvasi annosta ennakkotietojen perusteella "woke-puuroksi", ja kertoi häpeävänsä sitä, että puuroa tarjoillaan Nobel-palkituille ja Ruotsin kuninkaallisille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 13.12.2024, 14:38:57
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 13.12.2024, 14:28:38
Osaisiko joku Homman woke-spesialisteista kertoa, miksi ohrapuuro on woke?  :o

Eiköhän vastaus löydy paremmin siitä Expressenin toimittajan kolumnista. Lue ja referoi sitten tänne, jos katsot tarpeelliseksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Totti on 13.12.2024, 15:15:16
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 13.12.2024, 14:28:38
Osaisiko joku Homman woke-spesialisteista kertoa, miksi ohrapuuro on woke?  :o

Alkuperäislähteen mukaan ( https://www.expressen.se/kultur/anna-gullberg/nobelfesten-tvingar-sina-gaster-att-ata-woke-mat/ ) Nobel-juhlien kokki Jessie Sommarström halusi tarjota "terveellistä ohrapuuroa".

Sommarström on Sodexon "gastronimiavastaava", joka kertoo että "riippumatta siitä, teenkö kouluruokaa, sairaala-aterian tai Nobel-lounaan, minun on noudatettava arvomaailmaani". Sodexo taas valistaa, että Sommarströmin palkkaaminen "on linjassa Sodexon visiosta asemoitua kestävän ruoan maailmanjohtajaksi" (Ruotsi on myös julistanut itsensä moraaliseksi supervallaksi).

Ruotsin YLE (SVT) kävi Nobel-menun läpi ja siitä ilmenee, että "Nobel-puuro on erikoiskäsitelty sisältämään mineraaleja erityisesti hedelmällisessä iässä oleville naisille". Nobeljuhlien vieraista 2% ovat kuulemma hedelmällisessä iässä. Tarina ei kerro koskiko tämä sekä naisia että miehiä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Puuha-Pepe on 13.12.2024, 15:18:48
Quote from: Totti on 13.12.2024, 15:15:16
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 13.12.2024, 14:28:38
Osaisiko joku Homman woke-spesialisteista kertoa, miksi ohrapuuro on woke?  :o

Alkuperäislähteen mukaan ( https://www.expressen.se/kultur/anna-gullberg/nobelfesten-tvingar-sina-gaster-att-ata-woke-mat/ ) Nobel-juhlien kokki Jessie Sommarström halusi tarjota "terveellistä ohrapuuroa".

Sommarström on Sodexon "gastronimiavastaava", joka kertoo että "riippumatta siitä, teenkö kouluruokaa, sairaala-aterian tai Nobel-lounaan, minun on noudatettava arvomaailmaani". Sodexo taas valistaa, että Sommarströmin palkkaaminen "on linjassa Sodexon visiosta asemoitua kestävän ruoan maailmanjohtajaksi" (Ruotsi on myös julistanut itsensä moraaliseksi supervallaksi).

Ruotsin YLE (SVT) kävi Nobel-menun läpi ja siitä ilmenee, että "Nobel-puuro on erikoiskäsitelty sisältämään mineraaleja erityisesti hedelmällisessä iässä oleville naisille". Nobeljuhlien vieraista 2% ovat kuulemma hedelmällisessä iässä. Tarina ei kerro koskiko tämä sekä naisia että miehiä.

Eli terveellinen ruoka on nyt "woke"?

Meikäläisen maailmassa ohrapuuro enemmänkin perinneruoka kuin hippien haihattelua, mutta jokainen saanee kokea asiat haluamallaan tavalla.  ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 13.12.2024, 18:34:40
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 13.12.2024, 15:18:48
Quote from: Totti on 13.12.2024, 15:15:16
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 13.12.2024, 14:28:38
Osaisiko joku Homman woke-spesialisteista kertoa, miksi ohrapuuro on woke?  :o

Alkuperäislähteen mukaan ( https://www.expressen.se/kultur/anna-gullberg/nobelfesten-tvingar-sina-gaster-att-ata-woke-mat/ ) Nobel-juhlien kokki Jessie Sommarström halusi tarjota "terveellistä ohrapuuroa".

Sommarström on Sodexon "gastronimiavastaava", joka kertoo että "riippumatta siitä, teenkö kouluruokaa, sairaala-aterian tai Nobel-lounaan, minun on noudatettava arvomaailmaani". Sodexo taas valistaa, että Sommarströmin palkkaaminen "on linjassa Sodexon visiosta asemoitua kestävän ruoan maailmanjohtajaksi" (Ruotsi on myös julistanut itsensä moraaliseksi supervallaksi).

Ruotsin YLE (SVT) kävi Nobel-menun läpi ja siitä ilmenee, että "Nobel-puuro on erikoiskäsitelty sisältämään mineraaleja erityisesti hedelmällisessä iässä oleville naisille". Nobeljuhlien vieraista 2% ovat kuulemma hedelmällisessä iässä. Tarina ei kerro koskiko tämä sekä naisia että miehiä.

Eli terveellinen ruoka on nyt "woke"?

Meikäläisen maailmassa ohrapuuro enemmänkin perinneruoka kuin hippien haihattelua, mutta jokainen saanee kokea asiat haluamallaan tavalla.  ;D
Niin, jos kokki kertoo motiivin olevan wokeilu tms niin onhan se silloin wokepuuroa. Olis vaan sanonut tekevänsä hyvää perinnepuuroa. Mitäs meni pilaamaan homman ideologiajulistuksilla.
Jos minä järjestäisin vastaavia, niin ideana olisi kyllä mahdollisimman hyvän makuiset ja näköiset pöperöt ja sellaista edellyttäisin kokeilta.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 13.12.2024, 19:58:32
Quote from: Caucasian on 13.12.2024, 18:34:40
Niin, jos kokki kertoo motiivin olevan wokeilu tms niin onhan se silloin wokepuuroa. Olis vaan sanonut tekevänsä hyvää perinnepuuroa. Mitäs meni pilaamaan homman ideologiajulistuksilla.
Jos minä järjestäisin vastaavia, niin ideana olisi kyllä mahdollisimman hyvän makuiset ja näköiset pöperöt ja sellaista edellyttäisin kokeilta.

Toisesta ketjusta (https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,107418.msg3612215.html#msg3612215):  ilmeisesti punapappakin on hieman työlääntynyt ideologiseen ruokatuputukseen, kun viittaa (ilmeisen sarkastisesti) Tatuun ja Patuun (https://www.is.fi/kotimaa/art-2000010877897.html).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 16.12.2024, 22:03:07
Serkusavioliitotkin ovat nykyään sellainen aihe, jossa tosiasioden esilletuojan päätä ei silitetä.

Jerry Coyne kertoo serkusavioliittojen muuttumisesta tabuksi brittien julkisessa keskustelussa (https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2024/12/16/more-censorship-of-science-by-political-correctness-cousin-marriage-becomes-a-taboo-topic/). Hän viittaa Sunday Timesin viime sunnuntain artikkeliin Silence on cousin marriage is the unspeakable face of liberalism (https://archive.ph/BClqt)

Artikkeleissa kerrotaan varsin kattavasti serkusavioliittojen vaikutuksesta perimään sekä siitä, miten siitä on tullut briteissä poliittisesti erittäin arkaluonteinen aihe.  Tämä johtuu todennäköisesti siitä, että etenkin pakistanilaissiirtolaisten keskuudessa serkusavioliitot ovat hyvin yleisiä, ja pakistanilaiset ovat varsin suuri ja kohtuullisen vaikutusvaltainen vähemmistö maassa.

Tuo Timesin artikkelin kirjoittaja on toimittaja Matthew Syed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Syed), jonka isä on pakistanilainen. Hän on ottanut kantaa aikaisemminkin, penäten britteihin serkusavioliittokieltoa (https://archive.ph/E1M7l). Pari kuukautta sitten Syed kirjoitti skandinavian maiden ajamasta serkusavioliittokiellosta (https://archive.ph/PJUDS): 
QuoteA shift of potentially historic significance is under way, perhaps without many people noticing. Last week, after an official inquiry, Sweden moved to ban cousin marriage, following in the footsteps of Norway, which announced the same intention earlier this year. The day after the Swedish announcement, Denmark did so too.
Eli kolmessa pohjoismaassa ollaan liikkeellä kieltämässä serkusavioliitot. Onko kenelläkään tietoa, mikä on tilanne Suomessa? Onko aihe täällä poliittisesti arkaluonteinen? 

Artikkeleista on vaikea tiivistää tai lainata tattispaloja, suosittelen itse kutakin lukemaan. 
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 17.12.2024, 08:48:59
Quote from: Siili on 16.12.2024, 22:03:07
Serkusavioliitotkin ovat nykyään sellainen aihe, jossa tosiasioden esilletuojan päätä ei silitetä.
...
Artikkeleista on vaikea tiivistää tai lainata tattispaloja, suosittelen itse kutakin lukemaan.

Pistän nyt kuitenkin ketjun otsikkoon liittyviä kuvailuja viimeisimmästä Syedin artikkelista (https://archive.ph/BClqt). Googlen kääntäjä auttaa, jos Lontoon murre tuottaa ongelmia.
QuoteI then came across evidence that scientists examining the UK Biobank had found that levels of incest (father-daughter, siblings etc) were significantly higher in the British Pakistani community than the wider population. This was a disturbing finding, possibly indicating abuse of a shocking kind. But the paper was never published, disappearing into what I can only describe as an Orwellian memory hole.
QuoteWhat I hope you are gleaning from all this is how scientific inquiry is being distorted and suppressed out of an almost crippling fear of offending cultural sensitivities; how information vital to the public interest is being censored out of concern that it might be prejudicial to the "customs" of immigrant communities.
QuoteBut the longer I've studied this area, the more I've come to realise that our societies face a potentially bigger problem: the corruption of large parts of institutional science. I'd long known about how ultra-progressivism had infiltrated the humanities, but I had naively assumed that the "hard sciences" were immune to ideological capture. I was wrong.
QuoteI realised something else too. I was a victim of racism growing up, ostracised for long periods at school for the colour of my skin, which is why I've spent my life fighting the bigotry of the hard right. But I now believe the soft bigotry of the left is more insidious.
QuoteThe philosopher John Gray has said that hyperliberalism is the most illiberal of all modern ideologies. I'd go one stage further. It is also — in its consequences, if not in its intent — the most racist.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.12.2024, 10:47:48
Quote from: Siili on 16.12.2024, 22:03:07
QuoteI then came across evidence that scientists examining the UK Biobank had found that levels of incest (father-daughter, siblings etc) were significantly higher in the British Pakistani community than the wider population. This was a disturbing finding, possibly indicating abuse of a shocking kind.

Tarpeeksi pitkään jatkuessaan sukurutsaus lopulta tuhoaa sukulinjan: Tutankhamon lapset kuolivat jo ennen syntymäänsä.

Quote from: https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/king-tuts-muddy-family-tree-was-full-of-incest-and-intrigueKing Tut's Muddy Family Tree was Full of Incest and Intrigue

Lopputulos on sama kuin transmeiningissä: lisääntyminen loppuu.

Jos Jumala loi ihmisen omaksi kuvakseen, tämä ei ehkä ollut ihan se mitä hän tarkoitti.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Kek2 on 17.12.2024, 11:39:29
Yhdysvalloissa Wisconsinissa kouluampuja oli miesvihaaja-feministi, joka halusi hävittää miehet maailmasta. Siinä oli saatu sairaalla ideologialla 15-vuotiaan tytön pää niin sekaisin, että päätti tehdä joukkomurhan
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 17.12.2024, 12:17:24
Quote from: Kek2 on 17.12.2024, 11:39:29
Yhdysvalloissa Wisconsinissa kouluampuja oli miesvihaaja-feministi, joka halusi hävittää miehet maailmasta. Siinä oli saatu sairaalla ideologialla 15-vuotiaan tytön pää niin sekaisin, että päätti tehdä joukkomurhan

Ja taas yksi esimerkki siitä, että tasa-arvo etenee usein huonoissa asioissa: naiset toistavat miesten tekemiä virheitä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 17.12.2024, 22:16:18
Hesarin mukaan epätasa-arvoa on jopa liukkaat jalkakäytävät. Vissiin haetaan että sen takia pitäisi rankaista autoilijoita.
Quote
Ruuhela kuulostaa huolestuneelta todetessaan seuraavan: jalankulku ei ole tasa-arvoinen kulkumuoto autoiluun verrattuna.

Epätasa-arvo näkyy liukastumis­tapaturmissa, sanoo tutkija
https://www.hs.fi/helsinki/art-2000010907325.html (https://www.hs.fi/helsinki/art-2000010907325.html)

Woke etenee.

Korjattu linkki, lisätty uutisotsikko
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 17.12.2024, 22:27:46
Quote from: Kek2 on 17.12.2024, 11:39:29
Yhdysvalloissa Wisconsinissa kouluampuja oli miesvihaaja-feministi, joka halusi hävittää miehet maailmasta. Siinä oli saatu sairaalla ideologialla 15-vuotiaan tytön pää niin sekaisin, että päätti tehdä joukkomurhan

Aika rankkaa tavaraa manifestissa. Vastaa lainattujen pätkien perusteella Andy Warholin murhaamista yrittäneen radikaalifeministi Valerie Solanasin (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Solanas) kuuluisaa SCUM-manifestia, jossa myös vaaditaan kaikkien maailman miehien tuhoamista.

Suomen valtamediassa ei tietenkään vielä mitään motiivista. Mitenkähän tämä tullaan lähipäivinä spinnaamaan Suomessa ja maailmalla parhain päin? Natalie olikin oikeasti äärioikeistolainen, koska harrasti ammuntaa? Suomessa varmaan vain vaietaan kuoliaaksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 17.12.2024, 23:07:28
Woke etenee lisää.

QuoteYhtenä "surullisena ja huolestuttavana" havaintonaan Ramstedt mainitsee soittotaidon liittämisen siihen, miten ihmistä arvostetaan tai ei arvosteta.

Minä luulin, että muusikoita arvostetaan soittotaidon takia. Se on sitten wokemaailmassa väärin. Ehkä kohta tulee sinfoniaorkesteri, missä kukaan ei osaa soittaa?

Klassisen musiikin opettajat nöyryyttävät nais­opiskelijoita tahallaan, tuore väitös paljastaa
https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010906829.html (http://https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010906829.html)
Quote
Yhtenä "surullisena ja huolestuttavana" havaintonaan Ramstedt mainitsee soittotaidon liittämisen siihen, miten ihmistä arvostetaan tai ei arvosteta.

"Se oli aika keskeinen tutkimuksessa ilmennyt asia. Ylipäätään se, että häirintä voidaan nähdä myös normalisoituna osana sitä kulttuuria", hän sanoo.

"Kyse on valtahierarkioista, jotka saattavat myös piilottaa ongelmaa – tai sitä ei välttämättä uskalleta tuoda esille."

Ollaanko tässä kaivamassa ojaa meritokratian alta, ja "kokemusasiantuntijoiden" pitäisi korvata oikeat asiantuntijat?

Korjattu linkki, lisätty jutun otsikko ja lainaus jutusta
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ohkurin_narsi on 17.12.2024, 23:22:08
^meinaako toi että Oopperaan voi sitten hakea tenoriksi vaikka ei osaa laulaa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: tavallinen jantteri on 18.12.2024, 06:12:56
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 17.12.2024, 22:16:18
Hesarin mukaan epätasa-arvoa on jopa liukkaat jalkakäytävät. Vissiin haetaan että sen takia pitäisi rankaista autoilijoita.
Quote
Ruuhela kuulostaa huolestuneelta todetessaan seuraavan: jalankulku ei ole tasa-arvoinen kulkumuoto autoiluun verrattuna.
https://www.hs.fi/helsinki/art-2000010907325.html (http://"https://www.hs.fi/helsinki/art-2000010907325.html")

Woke etenee.

No mutta, jalankulku ja autoilu eivät ole tasa-arvoisia kulkumuotoja. Autolla esimerkiksi pääsee liikkumaan n. 60 kilometrin matkan tunnin aikana (varsin pätevä keskinopeus seka-ajoon) ja kävellen vain n. 6 kilometrin matkan.
Jotta näistä kulkumuodoista saataisiin tasa-arvoisia, pitäisi jalankin päästä kulkemaan tuo n. 60 kilometrin matka tunnissa.
Tai sitten autolla ei saisi päästä kuin tuo n. 6 kilometriä tunnissa.
Ensimmäinen ei oikein ole fyysisesti mahdollista, joten tasa-arvopolitiikalla luonnollisesti tähdätään jälkimmäiseen.

Analogia pätee hämmästyttävän hyvin myös muihinkin hankkeisiin joissa perätään "tasa-arvoa".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 18.12.2024, 08:51:16
Quote from: ohkurin_narsi on 17.12.2024, 23:07:28
Woke etenee lisää.

QuoteYhtenä "surullisena ja huolestuttavana" havaintonaan Ramstedt mainitsee soittotaidon liittämisen siihen, miten ihmistä arvostetaan tai ei arvosteta.

Minä luulin, että muusikoita arvostetaan soittotaidon takia. Se on sitten wokemaailmassa väärin. Ehkä kohta tulee sinfoniaorkesteri, missä kukaan ei osaa soittaa?

https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010906829.html (http://"https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000010906829.html")

Ollaanko tässä kaivamassa ojaa meritokratian alta, ja "kokemusasiantuntijoiden" pitäisi korvata oikeat asiantuntijat?

Onhan niitä menestyneitä bändejäkin ollut iät ja ajat missä soittajat eivät osaa soittaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: HDRisto on 18.12.2024, 09:28:49
Sitten on sellaisia kuten Retuperän WBK jotka soittavat tahallaan vähän pieleen. Sekin vaatii taitoa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 20.12.2024, 15:50:57
Jarkko Tontti vieraili Sanna Ukkolan ohjelmassa.

Onko Suomi kommunistien maa, Jarkko Tontti?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxKPG0ccYzY
QuoteKirjailija Jarkko Tontti katsoo, että punavihreä ideologia on vallannut median, kulttuurielämän ja yliopistot.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 20.12.2024, 19:50:59
Quote from: Roope on 17.12.2024, 22:27:46
Quote from: Kek2 on 17.12.2024, 11:39:29
Yhdysvalloissa Wisconsinissa kouluampuja oli miesvihaaja-feministi, joka halusi hävittää miehet maailmasta. Siinä oli saatu sairaalla ideologialla 15-vuotiaan tytön pää niin sekaisin, että päätti tehdä joukkomurhan

Aika rankkaa tavaraa manifestissa. Vastaa lainattujen pätkien perusteella Andy Warholin murhaamista yrittäneen radikaalifeministi Valerie Solanasin (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Solanas) kuuluisaa SCUM-manifestia, jossa myös vaaditaan kaikkien maailman miehien tuhoamista.

Suomen valtamediassa ei tietenkään vielä mitään motiivista. Mitenkähän tämä tullaan lähipäivinä spinnaamaan Suomessa ja maailmalla parhain päin? Natalie olikin oikeasti äärioikeistolainen, koska harrasti ammuntaa? Suomessa varmaan vain vaietaan kuoliaaksi.

Siinä missä poliisin tutkijat edelleen arpovat, onko heti ammuskelun jälkeen Natalien nimissä esiin tullut miesvihamielinen manifesti aito, Anti-Defamation Leaguen "tutkijat" eivät epäröi ilmoittaa (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/12/19/researchers-believe-wisconsin-school-shooter-posted-violent-tiktoks/77084686007/), että Natalie oli TikTok-tilinsä perusteella saanut vaikutteita "antisemitismistä ja valkoisesta ylivallasta". Tilillä oli julkaistu muun muassa teksti "Totally normal day", joka ADL:n tutkijatiimin mukaan tarkoittaakin sanojen ensimmäisten kirjaimien kautta oikeasti "Total n****r death".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 23.12.2024, 21:04:09
Lisään tähän kuvan wokeajatuksista sukupuolten välillä. Kuvan alkuperästä en tiedä, nettilöytö, mutta sanoisin, että on pitkälti totuudenmukainen. Vai mitä mieltä olette?
https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/1871223255966920854 (https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/1871223255966920854)
Totuusvarausta toki!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 23.12.2024, 21:54:55
Jatkoa edelliselle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 23.12.2024, 23:23:33
Herää myös se kysymys tunneajattelusta vs. rationaalisesta ajattelusta, vaikkei täysin sukupuolisidonnaista ole...!

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 26.12.2024, 23:26:28
Tekusta eilen ja tänään...Agatha Christien neiti Pinkertonin salaisuus oli siirretty 50 luvulle ja jutun päähenkilö oli muokattu nigerialaiseksi. (Alkuperäisessä saapuu Intiasta eikä Afrikasta enkä nyt muista oliko etninen ensinkään.) Juttuun oli muokattu brittiläisen yläluokan, valkoisten viranomaisten ja imperiumin paheksuntaa.
Itse päähenkilöä Fitzsimmonsia esittänyt näyttelijä suoriutui heikosti. Suunnilleen yhdellä ilmeellä (hymyili joka kohtauksessa ikäänkuin tyynen älykkäänä kuin aito britti ikään...) veti läpi koko homman. Ei toiminut, hieman kiusallista katsottavaa.
Mutta DEI, woke ym ansiot tuli hoidettua...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 27.12.2024, 17:31:17
This is Why People Stopped Trusting "The Science"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0f6S5-oqTo
QuoteTrust in "the science" is dead. Scientists are now blaming the public for being anti-science, but it might just be the scientists who are to blame.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pienivalkeapupu on 01.01.2025, 17:06:36
Suositun fantasiaroolipeli Dungeons & Dragons'n uuteen versioon on ujutettu mukaan DEI (h)ajatusmaailma - kyseessä siis pöydällä pelattava ns kynä-ja-paperiversio:

Esmes hahmon "rotu" on "laji" ja roduille/lajeille tyypilliset ominaisuudet (kääpiöt ovat vahvoja, haltiat ketteriä jne) ovat tästä lähtien epätyypillisiä. Lisäksi pelaajille annetaan mahdollisuus uusiin käsimerkkeihin, jos olo alkaa liikaa ahdistamaan (löytyy linkin takaa, englanniksi).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14240051/dungeons-dragons-woke-makeover.html
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 03.01.2025, 10:50:53
Yhdysvaltojen tuleva presidentti Trump heittää sellaisen kapulan wokekulttuurin rattaisiin ettei näistä rattaista paljoa jää jäljelle jos heitto menee läpi kaikista hallinnon portaista.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDqlD6H00Y&t=114s

Linkissä suomeksi tekstitettynä Trumpin virkistävä puhe asian tiimoilta, ja todella näyttää siltä, että nyt laitetaan tuulemaan.
Suomessa tuollaisesta puheesta todennäköisesti joutuisi syviin vaikeuksiin, ehkä suurimmalta osalta siksi, että kyse on totuudesta ja tosiasioista, joita kumpaakin nykyään vierastetaan ja jopa vihataan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.01.2025, 11:36:34
Quote from: ämpee on 03.01.2025, 10:50:53
Yhdysvaltojen tuleva presidentti Trump heittää sellaisen kapulan wokekulttuurin rattaisiin ettei näistä rattaista paljoa jää jäljelle jos heitto menee läpi kaikista hallinnon portaista.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tDqlD6H00Y&t=114s

Linkissä suomeksi tekstitettynä Trumpin virkistävä puhe asian tiimoilta, ja todella näyttää siltä, että nyt laitetaan tuulemaan.
Suomessa tuollaisesta puheesta todennäköisesti joutuisi syviin vaikeuksiin, ehkä suurimmalta osalta siksi, että kyse on totuudesta ja tosiasioista, joita kumpaakin nykyään vierastetaan ja jopa vihataan.

Jeps.

Tuo woke-sekoilu on varmaan helpointa lopettaa, siis esimerkiksi kieltää woketus kouluissa.

(Washingtonin byrokraattisuon kuivamaaminen, valtionhallinnon järkiperäistäminen karsimalla älytöntä tuhlausta voivat sitten ollakin nihkeämpiä projekteja, kuten myös laittomien rajarikollisten metsästäminen ja palauttaminen, sekä etenkin deep staten vallan vähentäminen.)

- Trump ei kuitenkaan ole diktaattori, eikä voi yksin saattaa lakeja voimaan.

- Tuo kommentaattori vaikuttaa puheissaan asiantuntevalta (eikä todellakaan vaikuta natsilta!), jolloin tätä videota voisi suositella vassareille ja Trump-hulluudesta kärsiville.

"Trump kuulostaa old school demokraatilta, ja se on yksi syy hänen suosioonsa." (Transittajat siis kaappasivat demokraattisen puolueen jossain vaiheessa.)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 03.01.2025, 12:10:33
"Pitkä marssi läpi instituutioiden" on se keksintö jonka hedelmiä tämä woke on, ja tuo marssi on lävistänyt Suomenkin instituutiot melko perusteellisesti.
Kirjailija Jarkko Tontti koki "herätyksen" vuosituhannen alussa ja hän tuo kirjoituksessaan esille havaintojaan tuosta pitkästä marssista Suomessa.
https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/punavihrea-kupla-puhkeaa/#ea6218ea

Kirjoitus on siitäkin hyvä, että siinä on paljon linkkejä syventämään esitettyä asiaa, eli kyse ei ole pelkästä hajanaisten mietteiden kokoelmasta.
Henkilögalleria tuon pitkän marssin vetäjistä on varsin vaikuttava, sekä se kuinka paljon he edelleen sotkevat maamme asioita vielä nykyään ja millaisen perinnön he ovat jo tähän mennessä onnistuneet meidän vahingoksemme luomaan.
Tulevillakin sukupolvilla on kirvesmiehen hommia aivan riittämiin.

Kirjoituksessa tulee esille myös varsin yleinen sokea piste joka vaivaa turhan laajalti ja perin auktoriteetti-uskovaisesti.
Mitenkään ei näytetä ymmärtävän sitä, että meille kalliisti markkinoitu maailmanhistorian suurin huijaus sitten sosialismin, ilmastonmuutos, on kotoisin samasta sylttytehtaasta kuin kaikki muutkin vahingolliset ajatukset ja jonka pitäisi soittaa hälytyskelloa jo siinä vaiheessa kun asiaan on edes tutustuttu.
Tuosta asiasta sitten siinä omassa ketjussaan perusteellisemmin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Jorma M. on 05.01.2025, 15:05:54
KOK - RKP -linjan voimanpesä Turku poistaa Afrikan Tähti -pelit päiväkodeista.

https://www.is.fi/turun-seutu/art-2000010943838.html

QuoteAfrikan tähti -lautapelit aiotaan kerätä pois Turun päiväkodeista. Turun apulaispormestari Piia Elo (sd) kertoo, että asiasta keskusteltiin Turun opetusjohtajan kanssa tällä viikolla.

Elo kertoo, että pelit kerätään pois, koska lapsille halutaan tarjota päiväkodeissa sellaista materiaalia, joka vastaa "tämän päivän maailmaa".

– Meillä ei ole syytä olla sellaisia versioita varmaan päiväkodeissa, jotka ylläpitävät sellaista maailmankuvaa, jota me emme halua ylläpitää.

Afrikan tähti -pelin hahmoista syntyi kohu muutamia vuosia sitten, Afrikan tähti -teemaisen opiskelijatapahtuman jälkeen. Helsingin yliopiston maantieteen opiskelijat pukeutuivat tapahtumassa lautapelin pelinappuloiksi, timanteiksi ja rosvoiksi. Pelin sanottiin toistavan rasistisia ja kolonialistisia stereotypioita Afrikan siirtomaa-ajalta.

Pelin valmistajan sivuilla kerrotaan, että siirtomaiden itsenäistymisen jälkeen monia pelissä esiintyviä paikannimiä on muutettu, eivätkä kaikki nimet ole enää todellisuudessa käytössä. Tästä huolimatta pelissä käytetyt nimet ovat entisellään.

Vuonna 2021 pelistä tehtiin juhlaversio pelin 70-vuotisen taipaleen kunniaksi. Juhlapainoksessa pelin rosvohahmot korvattiin panttereilla. Muutos ei ollut kaikkien mieleen ja sitä seurasi jälleen uusi kohu. Elo ei tiedä aiotaanko peli korvata uudistetulla versiolla, vai poistuuko peli pysyvästi Turun päiväkodeista.

– On syytä keskustella, onko syytä tuoda sinne ne uudet versiot ennemmin, jotta kukaan ei tunne turvattomuutta tai ulkopuolisuutta emmekä tue tällaista institutionaalista rasismia. Maailma muuttuu ja meidän on syytä pitäytyä muutoksessa mukana.


...

Elo kertoo, että keskustelut käynnistyivät alun perin Turun kaupungin varavaltuutettu Paco Diopin aloitteesta (vas). Diop kirjoitti ajatuksiaan pelistä myös Instagramissa.

"Afrikan Tähden kansikuva näyttää ensisilmäyksellä harmittomalta, mutta se paljastaa pelin syvimmän ongelmallisuuden. Kuvassa afrikkalainen hahmo seisoo keihäs ja kilpi kädessään. Tämä hahmo ei kuitenkaan ole neutraali tai sattumanvarainen: se on suora viittaus kolonialismin ajan stereotyyppeihin, joissa afrikkalaisia kuvattiin "primitivistisinä" ja villiä luontoa edustavina sotureina, Diop kirjoittaa päivityksessään.

"Tämä kuvasto ei vain pelkistä Afrikkaa, vaan myös vahvistaa haitallisia mielikuvia, jotka eivät kuulu nykypäivään – saati kasvatus- ja oppimisympäristöihin", teksti jatkuu.

Aina vaan vähän kerrallaan Turusta tulee parempi paikka. Toinen varsin tuore Turku-uutinen:

QuoteTurussa Runosmäen kaupunginosassa on puukotettu nuorta miestä, Lounais-Suomen poliisista kerrotaan Ilta-Sanomille.

Poliisin mukaan kukaan ei ole hengenvaarassa.

Poliisin tiedon mukaan tapahtuneesta ei aiheudu vaaraa sivullisille. Tämänhetkisten tietojen mukaan kyse on ollut yksittäisestä tilanteesta.

Ilmoituksen tapahtuneesta poliisi sai hieman ennen iltakymmentä.
Quote

Juuri äskenhän islamista gradun tehnyt ex-yle-toimittaja Saara Malila, Turun tiedotusjohtaja ilmoitti että Turku jättää X:n "koska öyhötys".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Circus Hypno on 05.01.2025, 16:29:35
Voi elämän kevät. Olin jo unohtanut muutaman vuoden takaisen Afrikan tähti -kohun Helsingin yliopistosta, mutta nytpä se palautui mieliin.

74 vuotta vanha lautapeli on kyllä vaarallinen.  :flowerhat:

Quote from: Jorma M. on 05.01.2025, 15:05:54

Quote
Elo kertoo, että pelit kerätään pois, koska lapsille halutaan tarjota päiväkodeissa sellaista materiaalia, joka vastaa "tämän päivän maailmaa".

Mitähän tämä materiaali mahtaa olla? Jotain sellaistako, että fiilispohjalta voi ilmoituksella vaihdella sukupuoltaan, ja että niitä sukupuoliakin on ihan ääretön määrä?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.01.2025, 16:43:18
Quote from: Circus Hypno on 05.01.2025, 16:29:35
... lapsille halutaan tarjota päiväkodeissa sellaista materiaalia, joka vastaa "tämän päivän maailmaa".

Mitähän tämä materiaali mahtaa olla?

Tässä olisi koko perheen WOKELANDIA!

Quote from: https://www.amazon.com/Wokelandia-Card-Game-Political-Snowflakes/dp/B0BHY63ZDWCard Game - Best Political Game. Family Game for Teens and Adults. Hilarious, satirical Game That Teaches The New Rules to Live by. Fun for The Whole Family, but not for Snowflakes.

Tätä olisi hauska pelata Hommatapaamisissa.  8)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JKN on 05.01.2025, 18:19:58
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 05.01.2025, 16:43:18
Tässä olisi koko perheen WOKELANDIA!

Nykyajan lapsillehan pitää esitelmöidä transseksuaalisuudesta ja, että lapsi voi olla väärässä kehossa ja olla itsekin translapsi. Tässäpä olisi ideasarkaa kehitellä ihan suomalainen woketähti-peli lapsille, missä lapset etsisivät oikeata sukupuoli-identiteettiään ja nopeinta reittiä korjausleikkaukseen. Pelin voittaa ensimmäiseksi uuteen identiteettiin itsensä korjannut pelaaja. Oletko tyttö pojan kehossa vai kenties ihmiseksi syntynyt hamsteri? Kokoperheen peli 3-vuotiaista alkaen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Luotsi on 05.01.2025, 21:53:56
Mitähän noille pois kerätyille peleille oikein tapahtuu? Poltetaan suuressa pääsiäiskokossa turkkulaisen wokeväen villisti ympärillä tanssien :roll:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: supersankaritar on 05.01.2025, 22:27:44
Mä vähän pahoitan valkoisena ihmisenä mieleni siitä, että afrikan tähdessä ne valkoiset pahvi kiekot on muka tyhjiä ja heitetään vaan turhina ja arvottomina syrjään.
Jotain symboliikkaa siinäkin on.
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Post by: Velkku on 06.01.2025, 09:45:46
Quote from: supersankaritar on 05.01.2025, 22:27:44
Mä vähän pahoitan valkoisena ihmisenä mieleni siitä, että afrikan tähdessä ne valkoiset pahvi kiekot on muka tyhjiä ja heitetään vaan turhina ja arvottomina syrjään.
Jotain symboliikkaa siinäkin on.

Osta deluxe-versio. Eivät ole valkoisia siinä.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.01.2025, 11:34:21
Lista suomalaista hulluutta.

Quote from: https://x.com/mikamerano/status/1875626725192749467Mika Merano @mikamerano

Sisältövaroitus!

Nyt kun Afrikan tähti -peli kolonialismin jatkeena on johtanut Turussa kyseisen pelin takavarikointiin päiväkodeista, voinemme ottaa katsauksen joihinkin takavuosien hulluimpiin kotimaisiin woke-pläjäyksiin. Turvavyöt kiinni.

- Oulun yliopisto pyysi saamelaisilta anteeksi sitä, että perheellisten opiskelijoiden tapahtuman videolla lapsi oli soittanut saamelaisten noitarumpua.

https://iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/201802222200763491

- Åbo Akademin sukupuolentutkijoiden pikkujouluissa syntyi sisällissota, kun eräs tutkija joutui "homonationalistisen gangsterismin uhriksi" sen takia, koska häneltä kysyttiin pronominia. Tilannnetta korjatakseen laitoksen apulaisprofessori yritti parantaa laitoksen ilmapiiriä new age -taikasuolalla.

https://suomenuutiset.fi/turun-yliopistossa-rasistinen-vainoriita-sukupuolentutkijat-sattivat-toisiaan-mielikuvituksellisin-termein-homonationalistista-gangsterismia-ajallista-rotuerottelua/

https://is.fi/turun-seutu/art-2000006053196.html

- Black Lives Matter -liikehdinnän tiimellyksessä Uncle Ben's, Musta Pekka ja turkkilainen jugurtti muuttuivat rasistisiksi, jonka vuoksi niiden pakkauksia muutettiin.

https://yle.fi/a/3-11480431

- Yleisradion Herra Heinämäen Lato-orkesteri -lastenohjelma siirrettiin Ylen Lasten Areenasta Elävään Arkistoon. Syynä oli orkesterin intiaanihahmo.

https://yle.fi/a/3-10184919

- Helsingin yliopisto otti virallisen kannan, että Afrikan tähti on rasistinen peli.

https://iltalehti.fi/kotimaa/a/0960ef43-bf30-4e19-9754-49e4211ac532

- Salaatti voi olla rasistista, jos sen ainesosia ei oteta ympäri maailmaa.

https://yle.fi/a/3-5065323

- Liikennemerkkien vaihtamisesta koitui miljoonalasku, kun niistä tehtiin sukupuolineutraaleja.

https://is.fi/autot/art-2000008326958.html

- Mikroaggressiot, joissa mm. toisen syntymämaan kysyminen on rasistista.

https://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2020/10/22/mista-sa-oot-kotoisin-viisi-rasistista-mokaa-joilla-sinakin-ehka-syrjit-vaikka

- Eskimo-puikot ovat rasistisia.

https://yle.fi/a/3-11669880

- Vuokkoset lanseerasi miesten tamponit.

https://vuokkoset.fi/oma-keho/vuokkoset-for-men-tamponi/

- Da Vinci koodin hengessä tehty kaksoismerkitysjahti, jossa sekä pesukarhukravatissa että matonpesussa oli pahantahtoisia piilomerkityksiä.

https://mtvuutiset.fi/artikkeli/tuhannet-osoittivat-mielta-purra-julkaisi-mokkikuvan-asiantuntija-kuin-harjaisi-suomalaisten-vastustajien-kasvoja-mantysuovalla/8741462

https://is.fi/politiikka/art-2000009687488.html

- Suomalaisten yhteydet orjakauppaan ja kolonialismiin.

https://hs.fi/nyt/art-2000006538547.html

- Kansallisteatterin roolitus oli ongelmallinen, koska transihmisen näyttelijä ei ollut trans.

https://yle.fi/a/3-11543211

- Chisu syyllistyi kulttuurilliseen omimiseen, koska käytti televisio-ohjelmassa pikkulettejä.

https://is.fi/viihde/art-2000008288343.html
9:33 PM · Jan 4, 2025

QuoteMika Merano
@mikamerano
Listan jatkoksi kommenteissa täydennettyjä tapauksia:

- 88-nimisessä jäätelöpuikossa oli viittaus Hitleriin.

https://hs.fi/talous/art-2000010229138.html

Sultan-kondomien nimi piti vaihtaa, koska se ei "vastaa yhtiön arvoja".

https://hs.fi/talous/art-2000009745331.html

Tatu ja Patu -kirjoista poistettiin viittaukset liha- ja maitotuotteisiin.

https://is.fi/kotimaa/art-20

QuoteMika Merano
@mikamerano
Ja lisää kommenteista:

Shakespeare on Teatterikorkeakoulun opiskelijoille liian ahdistavaa luettavaa.

https://hs.fi/mielipide/art-2000007684567.html


Katariina Sourin maalaama saamelaisaiheinen teos oli kulttuurillista omimista.

https://yle.fi/a/74-20063201

Iiris Suomela "väärinsukupuolitti" kaupunkipaneelin edustajat.

https://iltalehti.fi/politiikka/a/240329bb-eaa6-438d-963d-3d3622aaeb07

Pirkka-Pekka Petelius pyysi anteeksi vanhoja sketsejään.

https://yle.fi/a/3-11079638
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Circus Hypno on 06.01.2025, 12:15:03
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.01.2025, 11:34:21
Lista suomalaista hulluutta.

Quote from: https://x.com/mikamerano/status/1875626725192749467Mika Merano @mikamerano

Karpon parhaat -ohjelman alkuintrossa Karpo sanoi "tosikertomuksia havumetsien maasta". "Lista suomalaista hulluutta" olisi kyllä hyvä päivitetty versio. Tai Halla-ahon hengessä "Tosikertomuksia uppoavasta Lännestä".

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 09.01.2025, 02:08:06
Neuvotteluklubi | Punavihreä kupla puhkeaa | #neuvottelija 296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQxZBkOhN8
QuoteNeuvotteluklubi | Punavihreä kupla puhkeaa | #neuvottelija 296. Neuvotteluklubi on Jarkko Tontti, Seida Sohrabi ja Otto Juote. Jarkko Tontti kohautti Suomea esseellään Punavihreä kupla puhkeaa.  Rudi Dutschke muotoili vuonna 1967 vasemmiston strategian: Pitkä marssi instituutioiden läpi. Punavihreä kupla on onnistunut, asemat on miehitetty ja naisitettu.

Vasemmisto on määrittänyt yhteiskunnallisen agendan, hyväksyttyjen keskusteluaiheiden Overtonin ikkunan ja uuskielen niin hyvin että amerikkalaiset äänestäjät kyllästyivät kaasuvalotukseen. Suomessa herääminen on hädintuskin alkanut. Vasemmistuneet instituutiot vastustavat suunnanmuutosta, kunnes keisarilla ei olekaan enää vaatteita ja kolumnistiksi pääsee taas yksi vaarallinen oikeistolainenkin.

#neuvottelija Sisäpiirissä Tampereen clasulaiset Jarkko ja Sami järjestävät luokkakokouksen Jarkon kirjan hengessä. Seida Vaasan Lyseon lukiosta osallistuu bileisiin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 09.01.2025, 10:51:40
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 09.01.2025, 02:08:06
QuotePunavihreä kupla on onnistunut, asemat on miehitetty ja naisitettu.

Tarvittaisiinko takaisin natsitusta?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: simppali on 11.01.2025, 15:58:17
Mc:kin aika on tullut täyteen.
QuoteMcDonald's luopuu DEI:stä
Pikaruokaketju seuraa Walmartia ja Harley Davidsonia.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/e898b541-8257-4b88-8017-25197fe1767e
QuoteHehkutuksesta huolimatta moni käytänteistä jää unholaan. Jatkossa McDonald's ei enää esimerkiksi osallistu ulkoisiin kyselyihin, jotka koskevat vähemmistöjen kohtelua.

Fox Businessin mukaan ketju putoaa sen vuoksi esimerkiksi HCR Corporate Equality Index -listauksesta. Raportissa arvioidaan, miten yritykset kohtelevat seksuaali- ja sukupuolivähemmistöjä.

McDonald's ei avaa päätöksen taustoja tarkasti. Aiemmin moni suuri yritys on luopunut DEI-toimista konservatiiviryhmien painostuksen jälkeen. Käytännöistä ovat luopuneet muun muassa Ford, Harley Davidson ja Walmart.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 11.01.2025, 16:43:06
Quote from: simppali on 11.01.2025, 15:58:17
Mc:kin aika on tullut täyteen.
QuoteMcDonald's luopuu DEI:stä
Pikaruokaketju seuraa Walmartia ja Harley Davidsonia.
https://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/a/e898b541-8257-4b88-8017-25197fe1767e

Iltalehden toimittaja kääntää termin "equity" "tasa-arvoksi".  Suomen kielessä ei kuitenkaan ole käsitteelle yksittäistä termiä, minkä vuoksi Suomen lainsäädännössä käytetään käsitettä "tosiasiallinen tasa-arvo (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosiasiallinen_tasa-arvo)".

Itse olen tarjonnut termin "equity" suomennokseksi termiä "tasapäisyys".


Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 11.01.2025, 17:02:01
Tasapäistäminen/tasapäisyys on sama kuin lopputulosten tasa-arvo. "Equity" on lopputulosten tasa-arvo.

"Equal opportunity" on mahdollisuuksien tasa-arvo. Kun sanoo kannattavansa tasa-arvoa, suurin osa tarkoittaa mahdollisuuksien tasa-arvoa. Siinä on samanlainen mahdollisuus jokaisella, mutta jokaisen pitää tehdä itse omaa työtä saavuttaakseen tavoitteen. Joku onnistuu siinä, joku ei.

Tasapäisyydessä puututaan siihen miten paljon jonkun tarvitsee tai ei tarvitse tehdä itse työtä tavoitteen saavuttamiseksi.
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Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.01.2025, 22:50:49
- Think about it, this was written, filmed, edited, approved, and published...by lots of people.
And no one said, "what the heck did she just say?" This is pervasive and evil."

- Their top priority is the erasure of White men from the roster in the name of antiwhiteism.


[tweet]1879412952601927988[/tweet]
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Post by: Pallopääkissa on 17.01.2025, 01:02:51
[tweet]1879254563141951533[/tweet]
Demareilla on nähtävästi kaksi täyspäistä edustajaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.01.2025, 15:03:14
Aika hyvä ja nostaliginen YLEn jutuksi, vaikka ei tässä oikeastaan wokeen päästä otsikkoa pidemmälle. Loput linkistä. Kommenteissa ei hyökätä wokea vastaan, vaan woketermin käyttäjiä vastaan, tietenkin!

Quote from: https://yle.fi/a/74-20134277Joonas Konstigin kolumni: Sukupolvi X kyllästyi wokeen

Sukupolveni sai kasvaa poikkeuksellisen vapauden aikana Kekkoslovakian suomettumisen ja woken sensuurin välissä, Konstig pohtii. Mutta omien lastensa suhteen se teki virheen.


Kirjailija Joonas Konstig, Helsinki, klo 6:45

Sukupolvi X on suurten ikäluokkien villit lapset, me, jotka vietimme kehitysvuotemme 70- ja 80-luvuilla leikkien pihalla käpysotaa ilman aikuisten valvontaa, kännykän sijasta kotiavain kaulassa, ilman pyöräilykypärää, ilman pipoa pakkasilla.

Me olimme brutaaleja. X oli boomereiden vapaan kasvatuksen hedelmä, märkä ja väkivaltainen sukupolvi. Se karkasi röökikaltseille välkillä, tappeli koulun jälkeen lipputangolla ringin huutaessa verta ja luuta, se joi pään täyteen perjantaisin keskikaljalla ja kiljulla tai halvalla viinillä interrailin hostellissa.

    Nörtti, läski ja vammainen olivat niin yleisiä sanoja, että oli kun olisi kommentoitu säätä.

Olimme räävittömiä. Nörtti, läski ja vammainen olivat niin yleisiä sanoja, että oli kun olisi kommentoitu säätä. Niitä käytettiin kavereistakin. "Rillipäät älkööt vaivautuko", kirjoitettiin Suosikin kaverinhakupalstalla.

Aina saattoi saada turpaansa, jos sen avasi väärässä paikassa. Kiusaaminen ei tarkoittanut, ettei oteta toista mukaan leikkiin. Se tarkoitti päätä vessanpöntössä.

Jos halusi seurustella, ei voinut kirjoittaa tuntemattomana nettiin tai lähetellä muokattuja selfieitään maailmalle. Piti mennä pyytämään slovariin koulun discossa, piti lähestyä tuntematonta raflassa ja riskeerata kasvojen menettäminen.

Kaikki eivät tästä myllystä selvinneet, mutta ne jotka selvisivät, kouliintuivat iskunkestäviksi. Mikä ei tappanut, vahvisti.

    Emme ajatelleet fanittavamme mustaa ihmistä: fanitimme heitä koska he olivat hyviä.

Samaan aikaan X oli tavallaan suvaitsevaisin sukupolvi mitä on ollut. Kun fanitimme Mike Tysonia ja Whitney Houstonia, emme ajatelleet fanittavamme tässä mustaa ihmistä: fanitimme heitä koska he olivat hyviä.

Meillä oli Aliensin Ripley ja Sarah Connor pumppuhaulikkonsa kanssa, eikä kukaan ajatellut että onpa voimauttava girl boss, oltiin vaan että cool. Emme hylänneet Queenia Freddie Mercuryn homouden takia. Olimme sokeita tällaisille epäolennaisuuksille, emme välittäneet. Kukin sai tulla cooliksi haluamallaan tavalla.

Jatkoa: https://yle.fi/a/74-20134277

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 17.01.2025, 16:13:06
^Montako suvakkia ja montako nuivaa on kommenttikentässä?

Boomereissa ja milleniaaleissa on jotain samaa. Buumerit ovat YYA-ajan tuote, ja millenniaalit ovat mokutusajan tuote. Milleniaalit on aivopesty suvakeiksi. Milleniaalit ovat tässä mielessä buumerien henkisiä perillisiä. Sen voi nähdä siinä että kun lustraatiota ei tehty, buumerit ehtivät kasvattaa seuraajasukupolven yliopistoissa. Sieltä ne sitten menivät julkishallintoon, mediaan ja kaikkialle.

Vastaavasti X-sukupolvessa ja Z-sukupolvessa on jotain samaa.

Persujen kannatus taitaa olla suurinta X-sukupolvessa eli 1965-1979 syntyneissä.

Z-sukupolvi (1996-2012) on eri arvioiden mukaan hyvin jakaantunut jyrkästi kahtia. Karkeasti sanottuna z-sukupolven miehet ovat konservatiiveja ja rationaalisia, mutta z-sukupolven naiset ovat progressiivisia radikaaleja jotka ajattelevat tunteella eikä järjellä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Betonikostaja on 17.01.2025, 19:18:00
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 17.01.2025, 15:03:14
Aika hyvä ja nostaliginen YLEn jutuksi, vaikka ei tässä oikeastaan wokeen päästä otsikkoa pidemmälle.

Jatkoa: https://yle.fi/a/74-20134277

Tuo oli ihan saatanan hyvä kolumni. Itse ammattilaisena olisin toki kirjoittanut paremman, mutta siinä tulivat olennaiset asiat esille. Uskallan sanoa tuntevani asian, koska olen saman ikäinen ja samasta kokemuspiiristä.

Parhaita olivat huomiot rasismista ja musiikista. Ei kasarilla tai ysärilläkään hittojakaan välitetty, minkä värinen muusikon naama on tai kenen kanssa hän hässii. Etenkin kasari oli todella suvaitsevaista aikaa, vaikkei sitä ehkä tajuttu silloin. Homot ja neekerit tekivät musiikkia ihan täysillä eikä kukaan välittänyt muusta kuin hyvästä musiikista. Ja olihan se jo sitä aikaisemminkin. Joskus 70-luvulla joku Free oli taustaltaan yllättävän värikäs bändi, ja toisaalta 60-luvulla oli Jimi Hendrix, josta on turha varmaan sanoa mitään. Ja minulle nuo taustat eivät ole merkinneet ikinä mitään, tärkeintä on hyvä musiikki. Elton Johniakin diggaan kovasti.

Meille 70-luvulla syntyneille rasismi ja vaikkapa homojen vihaaminen tuli tutuksi vasta paljon myöhemmin. Ei meitä siihen kasvatettu, ei se ollut meille lähtökohtaisesti tuttua.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Saturnalia on 17.01.2025, 20:18:46
Meidän X-polvisten suvaitsevaisuus oli meritokraattista, ei identiteettipoliittista. Jos joku oli hyvä jossain, niin meitä ei kiinnostanut millainen ihminen hän oli. Minua ei kiinnostanut pätkääkään Clarence Clemonsin ihonväri, hän soitti hienossa bändissä fonia hyvin. Meritokraattiseen suvaitsevaisuuteen liittyi myös se, ettei erivärisiä nähty uhreina. Suvaitsimme tekojen ja taitojen pohjalta. Feministinen liike otti meritokraattisen suvaitsevaisuuden myöhemmin omakseen, ja vaati että kyvykkäällä naisella tulee olla samat mahdollisuudet menestyä kuin miehellä, kunnes se korvautui tällä nykyisellä postfeminismillä sekopäisine teorioineen.

70-luvun Suomi oli rakenteellisesti niin eri maa, että vertaaminen on vaikeaa. 1977 10% työväestöstä oli korkeakoulutus. 2025 50% on. Tällä muutoksella on ollut massiivinen vaikutus kulttuuriin ja elinkeinorakenteeseen hyvässä ja pahassa jo yksinään. Kyllä Kekkosen Suomessa paljon hyvää oli, riippuen kokijasta. Duunareille ja alemmalle keskiluokalle se oli hyvä maa, nykyiselle korkeakoulutetulle globalistille se olisi helvetti. Kansa meni nukkumaan kymmeneltä ja nousi seitsemältä. Ei noutoruokaa, ei juuri ravintoloita, ei kännyköitä, ei nettiä. Ei oikein mitään keinoa olla elitistinen, signaloida paremmuuttaan ja asemaansa hierarkiassa suvaitsemalla ehdoitta kaikkea mitä duunarit vihaavat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 17.01.2025, 21:08:29
Quote from: Saturnalia on 17.01.2025, 20:18:46
Meidän X-polvisten suvaitsevaisuus oli meritokraattista, ei identiteettipoliittista. Jos joku oli hyvä jossain, niin meitä ei kiinnostanut millainen ihminen hän oli. Minua ei kiinnostanut pätkääkään Clarence Clemonsin ihonväri, hän soitti hienossa bändissä fonia hyvin. Meritokraattiseen suvaitsevaisuuteen liittyi myös se, ettei erivärisiä nähty uhreina. Suvaitsimme tekojen ja taitojen pohjalta. Feministinen liike otti meritokraattisen suvaitsevaisuuden myöhemmin omakseen, ja vaati että kyvykkäällä naisella tulee olla samat mahdollisuudet menestyä kuin miehellä, kunnes se korvautui tällä nykyisellä postfeminismillä sekopäisine teorioineen.

70-luvun Suomi oli rakenteellisesti niin eri maa, että vertaaminen on vaikeaa. 1977 10% työväestöstä oli korkeakoulutus. 2025 50% on. Tällä muutoksella on ollut massiivinen vaikutus kulttuuriin ja elinkeinorakenteeseen hyvässä ja pahassa jo yksinään. Kyllä Kekkosen Suomessa paljon hyvää oli, riippuen kokijasta. Duunareille ja alemmalle keskiluokalle se oli hyvä maa, nykyiselle korkeakoulutetulle globalistille se olisi helvetti. Kansa meni nukkumaan kymmeneltä ja nousi seitsemältä. Ei noutoruokaa, ei juuri ravintoloita, ei kännyköitä, ei nettiä. Ei oikein mitään keinoa olla elitistinen, signaloida paremmuuttaan ja asemaansa hierarkiassa suvaitsemalla ehdoitta kaikkea mitä duunarit vihaavat.
Toki yhteiskunta on mm. internetin ja kaiken teknologisen mullistuksen vuosina 1980-2020-luvuilla niin suuresti, etteivät ihmiset saati yhteiskunta oikein ole ehtinyt sopeutua muutoksiin. Työpaikkoja katoaa ja toisia syntyy. Koulutusten merkitys katoaa ja uusia syntyy. Itsekin olen niistä monista ylikoulutetuista turhamaistereista, joka on hankkinut kypsällä iällä perinteisemmän ammatin. Ylikoulutuskin on ongelma Suomessa. Aivan typerää kouluttaa kaikista "akateemisia", kun LVI-alalle olisi kysyntää...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 21.01.2025, 11:20:06
QuotePurran ykkösavustajalta villi woke-teoria – Biologi tyrmää: "Kaukaa haettu"

Valtiovarainministeri Riikka Purran (ps) talouspoliittisen erityisavustajan Jussi Lindgrenin (ps) viesti on julkaistu X:ssä.

– Voisiko wokettuminen liittyä testosteronin tasolaskuun länsimaissa, esimerkiksi ravinnon kautta? Länsimaissa kai miesten spermanlaatu on heikentynyt tutkimusten mukaan muutoinkin, Lindgren kirjoittaa X:ssä.

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Evoluutiobiologi Markus J. Rantalan mukaan testosteronin (mieshormonin) määrä on laskenut länsimaissa, kuten Lindgren kirjoittaa, mutta tämä ei liity tasa-arvoa ja vähemmistöjen oikeuksia puolustavaan woke-ilmiöön mitenkään.

En kyllä mitenkään osaa yhdistää näitä toisiinsa eikä tästä tietenkään ole mitään tutkimusnäyttöä, Rantala sanoo IL:lle.

Rantalan mukaan testosteronitason lasku ja spermanlaadun heikentyminen johtuvat todennäköisesti ympäristökemikaaleista ja länsimaalaisesta elämäntyylistä.

– Mutta että sen yhdistäisi wokeen, niin se on aika kaukaa haettu.

Rantalan mukaan testosteronitason lasku vaikuttaa miehillä moneen asiaan, muun muassa kunnianhimoon ja lihaskasvuun.

– Suoraa linkkiä wokeen on aika hankala nähdä.

Rantalan mukaan sosiaalinen media on mahdollistanut sen, että ne, jotka eivät aiemmin saaneet ääntään esille, saavat sen nyt paremmin kuuluviin.

– Ilman sosiaalista mediaa tämä ei olisi lähtenyt samalla tavalla leviämään. En usko, että se johtuu hormoneista, vaan sosiaalisesta mediasta, Rantala sanoo.
Ilta-Sanomat (https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000010978152.html) 21.1.2025

Melkoinen tutkija.

Voidaan varmaan sopivalla tutkimusasetelmalla koehenkilöistä tutkia, onko wokettamisen kannatuksella yhteyttä testosteronitason laskuun, mutta on suoraan selvää, että woken nykyinen hegemonia tiettyjen länsimaiden politiikassa, kulttuurissa, valtamediassa ja yliopistoissa ei johdu "sosiaalisesta mediasta", jossa "ne, jotka eivät aiemmin saaneet ääntään esille, saavat sen nyt paremmin kuuluviin".

Wokella ei ole enemmistön kannatusta, eikä se ole ihmiset puolelleen voittava ylivertainen ajatus tai argumentti vaan päinvastoin sille tyypillisine ylilyönteineen yleinen naurunaihe, jota ei kuitenkaan woke-ilmapiirissä ole sopivaa kyseenalaistaa.

Quote– Ilman sosiaalista mediaa tämä ei olisi lähtenyt samalla tavalla leviämään. En usko, että se johtuu hormoneista, vaan sosiaalisesta mediasta, Rantala sanoo.

Eihän woke edes ole mitään varsinaista uutta vaan vain vielä pidemmälle vietyä ja organisoidumpaa ns. poliittista korrektiutta (PC), jota harjoitettiin Yhdysvalloissa jo vuosikymmeniä sitten ennen somea ja koko julkista internettiä. Taustalta löytyvät aina samat 60-luvun vasemmistolaiset ajatusmallit, joita kierrätetään uusilla vuosikymmenillä hieman eri sanoituksilla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Linkster on 21.01.2025, 11:30:24
Erinomainen keskustelunavaus Lindgreniltä. Omalta näkökannalta kannatan ehdottomasti tarkempaa tutkimusta juuri sukupuolihormonien ja muidenkin kehon yhdisteiden suhteen.
Jos katsotaan sellaisia stereotyyppisiä woke-hahmoja, on helppo havaita kuinka epänormaaleja ja sairaita heidän kehonsa ovat.
Oikeastaan normaalipainoisen,terveen ihmisen irvikuvia.

Jotkut ravinnon kautta saadut epäterveelliset aineet ovat varmasti syypää valtaosin nykyisin jokapuolella tavattaviin sairaalloisiin esiintymiin.
Ravintoaineiden manipulointi ja huomattava köyhtyminen ei voi olla vaikuttamatta myös lopulta psyyken tilaan.

Outoa katsoa vaikkapa valokuvia 70-luvun yleisötapahtumista ja verrata niitä tämänpäiväisiin.

Etenkin "asiantuntijan" esittämä täystyrmäys Lindgrenin aloitteelle oli jo riittävä syy tutkia asiaa välittömästi .
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 21.01.2025, 12:16:13
Quote from: Linkster on 21.01.2025, 11:30:24
Erinomainen keskustelunavaus Lindgreniltä. Omalta näkökannalta kannatan ehdottomasti tarkempaa tutkimusta juuri sukupuolihormonien ja muidenkin kehon yhdisteiden suhteen.
Jos katsotaan sellaisia stereotyyppisiä woke-hahmoja, on helppo havaita kuinka epänormaaleja ja sairaita heidän kehonsa ovat.
Oikeastaan normaalipainoisen,terveen ihmisen irvikuvia.

Suurin osa suomalaisista on ylipainoisia, suorastaan läskejä. Eli siis onko suurin osa suomalaisista wokettajia? Myös suurin osa PS:n äänestäjistä lienee todennäköisesti ylipainoisia. Muuten tämä sinun logiikkasi varmaan olikin tosi järkevä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.01.2025, 22:47:31
Myös Fiskars ja Kone kertoivat telkkarissa jatkavansa DEIttämistä vanhaan malliin.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 22.01.2025, 23:40:00
Vastalääke toimituksessa.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 24.01.2025, 12:48:22
YLE: WOKE ON konservatiivinen rakennelma.
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 24.01.2025, 18:58:19
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 24.01.2025, 12:48:22
YLE: WOKE ON konservatiivinen rakennelma.
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Pokkana käännetään asiat ylösalaisin.
"Sivistyksen alasajo"...  :roll:  melkoista shittiä, mutta jertoo siitä että noilla on vaikeaa, tosi vaikeaa.
Tietävät jo alitajuisesti, että ovat sittenkin historian väärällä puolella.
YLEn rahoituksen vähentämistä täytyy jatkaa ja kiihdyttää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 24.01.2025, 22:04:41
Quote"Todella kaukaa haettu" – Tiede­lehti hylkäsi tutkimuksen, koska mukana oli vain uroksia

YHDYSVALTALAINEN tiedelehti ei julkaise professori Juhani Knuutin ja hänen kollegojensa tutkimusta. Perustelu on, että tutkimus selvittää uutta sydäninfarktin merkkiainetta vain yhdellä sukupuolella.

Knuuti on mukana tutkimusryhmässä, joka tutki kokeellista sydäninfarktia urosrotilla.

Tämä ei kelvannut tiedelehti American Journal of Physiology-Heart and Circulatory Physiologyn toimitukselle. Se ottaa nykyään arvioitavaksi ja julkaistavaksi periaatteessa ainoastaan sellaisia tutkimuksia, joissa on mukana "enemmän kuin yksi" sukupuoli. Poikkeustapauksille on tarjottava "vahva tieteellinen oikeutus".

Hylkäys lähinnä huvittaa Knuutia.

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Onko sukupuolta koskeva sensitiivisyys mennyt liian pitkälle?

Tieteellisissä ympyröissä Knuutille tällainen vaikutelma on syntynyt nyt ensimmäistä kertaa.

"Valitettavasti."

Tiedelehden mukaan hylkäyspäätös perustuu siihen, että tutkimuksessa on käytetty vain yhtä sukupuolta, "single-sex/gender".

"Huvittava puoli oli se, että siinä oli sana gender, joka tarkoittaa subjektiivista sukupuolta. Ehkä eläimillä on vähän vaikea varmistaa, mitä mieltä ne ovat omasta sukupuolestaan", Knuuti sanoo.

"Kyllä tässä tietysti herää semmoinen epäily, että mitä ihmettä, onko tämä maailma ihan sekaisin menossa tältä osin. Totta kai pitää huomioida nämä asiat, mutta silloin niiden pitää olla relevantissa suhteessa siihen, mitä tutkitaan."
Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/tiede/art-2000010987663.html) 24.1.2025
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 25.01.2025, 19:10:49
Quote from: Velkku on 21.01.2025, 12:16:13
Quote from: Linkster on 21.01.2025, 11:30:24
Erinomainen keskustelunavaus Lindgreniltä. Omalta näkökannalta kannatan ehdottomasti tarkempaa tutkimusta juuri sukupuolihormonien ja muidenkin kehon yhdisteiden suhteen.
Jos katsotaan sellaisia stereotyyppisiä woke-hahmoja, on helppo havaita kuinka epänormaaleja ja sairaita heidän kehonsa ovat.
Oikeastaan normaalipainoisen,terveen ihmisen irvikuvia.

Suurin osa suomalaisista on ylipainoisia, suorastaan läskejä. Eli siis onko suurin osa suomalaisista wokettajia? Myös suurin osa PS:n äänestäjistä lienee todennäköisesti ylipainoisia. Muuten tämä sinun logiikkasi varmaan olikin tosi järkevä.

Ehkä kyse ei ole pelkästään läskiydestä tai niistä ravintoaineista ja hormoneista, jotka ovat mahdollisesti johtaneet läskeyteen. Tai sitten femiiniseen miesolemukseen.

Kyse voi olla puhtaasti pään sisällöstä. Psykologiasta. Siitä miten ihminen kokee oman kehonsa.

Jos ei kykene tai halua muuttua konservatiiviseen Suomi-filmien neito- tai tukkilaisvartaloon, pitää omaa kehoa alkaa normalisoida. Ja sitten kun aletaan normalisoida jotain muuta, niin sitten laitetaan naama täyteen niittejä ja värjätään tukka siniseksi. Sillä halutaan osoittaa, että erilainenkin on ihminen ja aletaan sympata muitakin erilaisia ja nostaa niitä alttarille. Erilaisuudesta tehdään normi ja terveestä kehosta tehdään konservatiivien jokin mörkö. Tissiliivimainokseen pitää saada kaikkia värejä ja painoindeksejä tai sitten boikotoidaan kauppiasta. Sama shampoo tai saippuamainokseen, vaatemainokseen ja ksylitolipurkkamainokseen.

Vaan ruokamainoksissa ei juuri ylipainoisia näe? Tuli juuri mieleen, että nämä foodoramainoksetkin ovat täynnä melko normaalivartaloisia ihmisiä... Syömisen assosioiminen "kehopositiiviseen" kehoon alkaisikin sotia itseään vastaan?

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 26.01.2025, 08:47:10
Tämä Tynkkysen kirjoitus sopinee tänne.

QuoteSisäpiiriläisellä oli tullut mitta täyteen ja hän antoi luvan anonyymisti tuoda nämä tiedot esille.

Hyvä @Polamk, pitääkö paikkansa, että teillä annetaan DEI-opetusta?

Alla sisäpiiriläisen viesti:

"Asiani liittyy pääasiassa Poliisiammattikorkeakoulun politisoitumiseen/ideologisoitumiseen, joka näkyy niin koulun tarjoamassa koulutuksessa, kuin myöhemmin työntekijöissä ja heidän suoriutumisessaan.

Ongelman ydin pohjautuu DEI-ajatteluun.

Poliisiammattikorkeakoulussa on alettu opettaa etuoikeuskehää. Uudet opiskelijat joutuvat kuuntelemaan saarnaa siitä, mitenkä etuoikeutettuja he ovat syntyperänsä tai motivaationsa takia ja lopuksi he joutuvat vielä tekemään kirjallisen tuotoksen siitä, jossa he pohtivat omaa etuoikeutettua asemaansa.

Tämän jälkeen he saavat todistuksen käymästään DEI-koulutuksesta. Samaa koulutusta järjestetään myös poliisin päällystölle heidän YAMK-kursseillaan.

Kyseinen DEI-ajattelu näkyy myös koulun opiskelijavalinnoissa. Sukupuolijakauma on mennyt koko ajan lähemmäksi 50-50 -jakaumaa.

Kyse ei ole puhtaasti mies-nais-asiasta, sillä joukossa on myös todella hyviä ja todella taitavia naispoliiseja. Ongelma ei siis ole itsessään siinä, että naispoliisien määrä kasvaa, vaan että millaisten poliisien määrä kasvaa.

Opiskelijamateriaali on muuttunut hyvin erilaiseksi viime vuosien kuluessa hyvin suurelta osin ja koulun opettajat huomaavat sen aiheuttamat ongelmat myös.

Erästä koulun opettajaa lainatakseni, "poliisilaitosten on totuttava siihen, että mielialalääkkeitä käyttävien poliisiopiskelijoiden määrä kasvaa merkittävästi lähitulevaisuudessa".

Jokin aika sitten mielialalääkkeiden käyttö olisi saattanut olla este Poliisiammattikorkeakouluun pääsyn yhteydessä suoritettavassa lääkärintarkastuksessa, nykyään se on jotain muuta.

Tämä näkyy myös koulun tarjoamassa koulutuksessa. Jokaisella kurssilla löytyy niitä henkilöitä, joilla ei ole mitään edellytyksiä menestyä esimerkiksi voimankäytön tai taktiikan harjoituksissa.

Nämä opiskelijat loukkaantuvat heille annetusta negatiivisesta tai kehittävästä palautteesta tai alkavat stressaamaan tai pahimmillaan jopa itkemään näissä harjoituksissa.

Voimankäytön ja taktiikan opettajat ovat voimattomia tekemään asialle mitään, sillä nämä erityisherkät opiskelijat valittavat saamastaan negatiivisesta palautteesta opintoasioiden toimistoon tai koulun päällystölle, joka saattaa johtaa jopa viralliseen menettelyyn työnantajan puolelta.

Tästä syystä näkee, että kouluttajat kääntävät vain katseensa toiseen suuntaan ja sanovat huonoista suoritteista vain "ihan ok, mennään eteenpäin".

Poliisiammattikorkeakoulu myös erittäin näkyvästi teki muutoksia koulun pääsykokeiden fyysisiin vaatimuksiin, jotta pääsykokeissa voi saada tietyistä lajeista ns. nollatuloksen ja silti tulla hyväksytyksi koulutukseen.

Tämän lisäksi koulun aikana suoritettavissa arvioitavissa fyysisissä testeissä on miehillä ja naisilla eriävät arvosteluasteikot: naisilta vaaditaan merkittävästi matalampia suoritusmääriä ja matalammilla painoilla, kuin miehillä.

Ainakin lähtökohtaisesti Suomessa mies- ja naispoliisit suorittavat samoja tehtäviä, joten eri suorituskykyvaatimukset ovat jo lähtökohdiltaan aivan täysin epätasa-arvoiset.

Käsittääkseni esimerkiksi pelastusopistossa ja Maanpuolustuskorkeakoulussa on täysin sukupuolineutraalit vaatimukset, mutta ei poliisissa, jossa sukupuolijakauma nykypäivänä on aivan erinäköinen, kuin pelastajien tai upseerien koulussa."

https://x.com/SebastianTyne/status/1883172680100102624
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: jmk on 26.01.2025, 08:59:47
^ Olen jo vuosia ihmetellyt PolAMK:n "tutkimuksia" (eli oikeasti opinnäytetöitä). On meinaan ollut vahva vasemmisto- ja DEI-väritys. Opettajahan niiden sävyn pitkälti pääsee määräämään, lähtien jo tehtävänasettelusta ja jatkuen ohjauksella. Toki opiskelijatkin saadaan sopivalla indoktrinaatiolla itsenäisesti tekemään DEI-väritystä.

Ylläolevan perusteella vaikuttaa, että PolAMK:hon hakeutuva opiskelija-aineskin on alkanut värittyä.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Puuha-Pepe on 26.01.2025, 09:03:47
Tynkkynen suoltaa päivittäin tuubaa, jonka pystyy toteamaan paskapuheeksi 5 sekunnin googlauksella. Miksi kenenkään pitäsi uskoa tuon tarinan olevan totta?  :facepalm:
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 26.01.2025, 09:11:18
Quote from: Puuha-Pepe on 26.01.2025, 09:03:47
Tynkkynen suoltaa päivittäin tuubaa, jonka pystyy toteamaan paskapuheeksi 5 sekunnin googlauksella. Miksi kenenkään pitäsi uskoa tuon tarinan olevan totta?  :facepalm:

Sittenhän Tynkkysen tuotokset eivät eroa sinun tuotoksistasi mitenkään.

Voit tietysti laittaa ne googlauksesi tulokset joihin meni se viisi sekuntia niin päästään arvioimaan mikä on sitä paskapuhetta ja mikä ei.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 26.01.2025, 09:49:19
Quote from: jmk on 26.01.2025, 08:59:47
^ Olen jo vuosia ihmetellyt PolAMK:n "tutkimuksia" (eli oikeasti opinnäytetöitä). On meinaan ollut vahva vasemmisto- ja DEI-väritys. Opettajahan niiden sävyn pitkälti pääsee määräämään, lähtien jo tehtävänasettelusta ja jatkuen ohjauksella. Toki opiskelijatkin saadaan sopivalla indoktrinaatiolla itsenäisesti tekemään DEI-väritystä.

Ylläolevan perusteella vaikuttaa, että PolAMK:hon hakeutuva opiskelija-aineskin on alkanut värittyä.
Hyvä esimerkki woketuksesta on nämä rasististen sattumusten tilastot joista uutisoidaan aina kun ne vaikuttaa lisääntyneen. Viharikoksistahan kerrotaan aina ne EPÄILYT eikä suinkaan sellaisiksi todetut. Eli joku ilmoittaa rasistisen sattumuksen koska voi vaikkei ole totuuden kanssa mitään tejemustä, niin kas. Taas tilastoihin suomalaisten natsius...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 11:07:03
Erityisherkät mielialalääkityt DEI-poliisit.

Suomi uppoaa entistä syvemmälle hulluuden suohon, jos DEItä ei revitä juurineen irti poliisilaitoksesta.

Tynkkynen lienee tiedotanut asiasta eteenpäin. Mitä siis tekee sisäministeri?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 26.01.2025, 11:11:47
Quote from: Caucasian on 26.01.2025, 09:49:19
Hyvä esimerkki woketuksesta on nämä rasististen sattumusten tilastot joista uutisoidaan aina kun ne vaikuttaa lisääntyneen. Viharikoksistahan kerrotaan aina ne EPÄILYT eikä suinkaan sellaisiksi todetut. Eli joku ilmoittaa rasistisen sattumuksen koska voi vaikkei ole totuuden kanssa mitään tejemustä, niin kas. Taas tilastoihin suomalaisten natsius...

Ne Polamkin raportoidut viharikokset eivät ole suurimmaksi osaksi edes viharikosepäilyjä vaan rikosilmoituksia, joissa on viharikoksen piirteitä kuten ns. vihasanoja. Vain pientä osaa tapauksista epäillään missään tutkinnan vaiheessa viharikoksiksi ja mitättömän pieni osa (pari prosenttia?) todetaan lopulta viharikoksiksi.

Mutta onhan se ihan eri asia pönkittää mielipiteitään ja politiikkaansa tuhannella viharikoksella kuin parillakymmenellä, joista niistäkin suurin osa sananvapausrikoksia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 26.01.2025, 11:48:29
Quote from: jmk on 26.01.2025, 08:59:47
^ Olen jo vuosia ihmetellyt PolAMK:n "tutkimuksia" (eli oikeasti opinnäytetöitä). On meinaan ollut vahva vasemmisto- ja DEI-väritys. Opettajahan niiden sävyn pitkälti pääsee määräämään, lähtien jo tehtävänasettelusta ja jatkuen ohjauksella. Toki opiskelijatkin saadaan sopivalla indoktrinaatiolla itsenäisesti tekemään DEI-väritystä.

Ylläolevan perusteella vaikuttaa, että PolAMK:hon hakeutuva opiskelija-aineskin on alkanut värittyä.

Eikö Jari Taponen siirtynyt PoAMK:uun?  Jos, niin mikä on hänen nykyinen vakanssinsa ja tehtäväkuva?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 26.01.2025, 12:47:57
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 11:07:03
Erityisherkät mielialalääkityt DEI-poliisit.

Suomi uppoaa entistä syvemmälle hulluuden suohon, jos DEItä ei revitä juurineen irti poliisilaitoksesta.

Tynkkynen lienee tiedotanut asiasta eteenpäin. Mitä siis tekee sisäministeri?

Jouko Turkka näki tulevaisuuteen?

Kiimaiset poliisit! :

https://youtu.be/BeuzVU2Z5iY?si=jS8X-aoxTt2q-lGK
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: l'uomo normale on 26.01.2025, 12:59:16
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 11:07:03
Erityisherkät mielialalääkityt DEI-poliisit.

Suomi uppoaa entistä syvemmälle hulluuden suohon, jos DEItä ei revitä juurineen irti poliisilaitoksesta.

Tynkkynen lienee tiedotanut asiasta eteenpäin. Mitä siis tekee sisäministeri?

Kaipa vartijat saavat hakata häröjä edelleen hiljaisella hyväksynnällä, niin kunnon kansalaisilla säilyy ostosrauha ostoshelveteissä. Oikemmat poliisit vaikka sotilastaustalla sitten jouduttaneen organisoimaan suojelemaan tärkeitä tahoja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 14:25:16
"Hyvä @Polamk, pitääkö paikkansa, että teillä annetaan DEI-opetusta?"
Koko ketju: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1883172680100102624.html

Suurin kommentoijista tuomitsee DEIn syvimpää helvettiin. Suvakit puolustelevat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 26.01.2025, 14:34:02
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 14:25:16
"Hyvä @Polamk, pitääkö paikkansa, että teillä annetaan DEI-opetusta?"
Koko ketju: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1883172680100102624.html

Suurin kommentoijista tuomitsee DEIn syvimpää helvettiin. Suvakit puolustelevat.
DEI on rasismia ja kastijärjestelmää. Ihmisiä arvotetaan ihonvärin, etnisyyden, srksuaalisen suuntautumisen, sukupuolen mukaan.
Tämänhän pitäisi olla rikollista mitä vasten vielä tuomittavampaa jos poliisikoulussa opetetaan syrjintää ja rasismia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 17:20:13
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 14:25:16
"Hyvä @Polamk, pitääkö paikkansa, että teillä annetaan DEI-opetusta?"

Polamk kiistää. Epäiljät eivät osta kiistoa.

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Quote"poliisikoulutukseen ei sisälly DEI-opetusta eikä muutakaan kuvaamaasi ideologisoitumista."

Eikö nämä sitten ole DEI-opetusta ja ideologisoitumista?

- "Varmistamme opetussuunnitelmatyössä, että yhdenvertaisuuden ja tasa-arvonedistäminen sisältyvät osaamistavoitteina tutkintokoulutuksiimme ja erikoistumisopintoihimme."

- "Lisäsimme hakuilmoituksiin yhdenvertaisuus ja monimuotoisuusnäkökulmat ja kannustamme monenlaisista taustoista tulevia hakemaan Polamkiin."

- "Sukupuoli on monitasoinen käsite, joka voidaan ymmärtää yksilötasolla itse määriteltynä tai juridisena. Sukupuoli-identiteetti tarkoittaa henkilön kokemusta omasta sukupuolestaan. Sukupuolen ilmaisu on sukupuolen esiintuomista pukeutumisella, käytöksellä tai muulla vastaavalla tavalla."

Nämä siis Poliisiammattikorkeakoulun yhdenvertaisuus-, tasa-arvo- ja saavutettavuussuunnitelmasta. Siellä on myös valtavasti lisää samankaltaista DEI-sontaa.

Eikö rehtorin pitäisi tietää mitä koulussaan opetetaan eikä väittää muuta?
5:06 PM · Jan 26, 2025

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Puuha-Pepe on 26.01.2025, 19:53:56


Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 17:20:13
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 14:25:16
"Hyvä @Polamk, pitääkö paikkansa, että teillä annetaan DEI-opetusta?"

Polamk kiistää. Epäiljät eivät osta kiistoa.



Epäilijät, eli anonyymitrolli joka ei uskalla puhua omalla nimellään? :facepalm:


Ilmeisesti Tynkkynen keksi itse tarinan, joka paljastui parissa tunnissa paskapuheeksi?
Yllättyneet voi asettua jonoon... ;D

Hyvin on Venäjän reissulta disinfo-opit menneet perille. Tarinan ei tarvitse olla tosi, kunhan saa epäilyksen varjon heitettyä kohteelle, niin fanilauma jatkaa paskan levittämistä.  Tynkkynen harrastaa tuota kokoajan, heittää paikkaansa pitämättömiä huhuja ilmoille, ja jengi nielee tarinan koukkuineen, siimoinen ja painoineen. :facepalm:

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 21:09:13
Quote from: https://x.com/AtteKaleva/status/1883424376894161012Atte Kaleva @AtteKaleva

Amerikasta kuuluu kummia.


Uuden presidentin myötä akateemisen maailman sekopäisimpiin kuuluvat muotivillitykset, uhripistehierarkioihin perustuva intersektionaalinen feminismi, jossa yksilö pelkistetään vain viiteryhmänsä edustajaksi, sekä siihen liittyvä, jopa puhtaalle rasismille perustuva DEI, saavat nyt väistyä liittovaltion hallinnosta. Jatkossa ihonvärillä ei enää ole merkitystä, vain yksilön osaaminen ja kyvyt ratkaisevat.

Lupaavia merkkejä on nähtävissä myös liberaalin median piirissä, jossa poliittisia vastustajia on pitkään demonisoitu. Sananvapaus ja yhdenvertaisuus eivät ole kuuluneet yhtäläisesti kaikille, itärannikon media on pyrkinyt häikäilemättä nostamaan demokraatteja ja painamaan republikaaneja alas koko sillä mahdilla, joka sillä perinteisesti on ollut.

Mutta sosiaalisen median aikakaudella tuo mahti alkoikin rapautua, kun kuka tahansa saattoi saada äänensä kuuluviin isojen mediatalojen toimitusten ohi. Vaalitulos pakotti tiedostavan mediaväen reflektoimaan omaa toimintaansa ja tunnistamaan uutisointinsa vinoumat. Se on ensimmäinen askel kohti tilanteen tervehtymistä.

Tämän yleisen kehityksen myötä jopa toive siitä, että terve järki palaisi pikkuhiljaa myös yliopistomaailmaan, ei enää ole aivan täyttä utopiaa.

Ilmassa tuoksuu nyt vapaus.

Siksi onkin niin valitettavaa, että siinä missä Amerikka näyttää majakan lailla suuntaa oikeaan, tarraudutaan meillä Euroopassa vielä kouristuksenomaisesti kiinni vanhaan. Vääjäämätöntä kehitystä vastaan yritetään taistella sillä keinolla, jonka EU parhaiten osaa: regulaatiolla. Mutta ajan henkeä ei sääntelyllä voi kahlita. Meidän aikamme aikalaishulluus, woke, on vihdoin päättymässä ja vapaus voittaa.

Sananvapauden kaventajien olisikin syytä muistaa Pablo Nerudan sanat:
"Voitte katkoa kaikki kukat, mutta ette voi estää kevättä tulemasta."

9:58 AM · Jan 26, 2025

Atte Kaleva
Kansanedustaja, sotatieteiden maisteri, kapteeni evp., yrittäjä, Helsingin kaupunginvaltuutettu (kokoomus).
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: mmm on 26.01.2025, 22:47:58
Quote from: Roope on 26.01.2025, 11:11:47
Mutta onhan se ihan eri asia pönkittää mielipiteitään ja politiikkaansa tuhannella viharikoksella kuin parillakymmenellä, joista niistäkin suurin osa sananvapausrikoksia.
Onko siis kyse viha sananvapautta kohtaan, vai vihaavatko sanat jotakuta? Kaverin puolesta kyselen.

Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 26.01.2025, 23:24:07
Tässä on aika hyvä 20 minuutin kertaus viime päivien tapahtumista, jossa sanotaan asiat siten kuin ne ovat. Mitään varsinaista uutta tämä ei sisällä, mutta on hyvä tiivistys eilestä, tästä päivästä ja huomisesta.

Trump Declares War On Woke - ROBERT SEPEHR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmylB_aWRnA
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.01.2025, 01:31:08
Kirjailija James Lindsay, USA: Woken ja agendan 2030  tavoite tuhota länsi ja orjuuttaa sen jäsen asukkaat nykyKiinan kaltaisessa vankileirissä. Siinäpä se!

[tweet]1883625791260643456[/tweet]

QuoteQuillFire @QuillFirePoetry

Hitting the nail on the head. 🍻

Wokeism (Post-Modern Progressivism) is merely the latest manifestation of the Far Left "Utopian Collectivist" ideologies that preceded it:
- Jacobinism (French Revolution);
- Marxism; and,
- Fascism (yes, Fascism was Far Left, not Far Right).

Putting lipstick on a pig changes not the animal that it is.

2:44 AM · Jan 27, 2025
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 28.01.2025, 07:10:00
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– Kyllä, olemme jäätelöbisneksessä, mutta olemme aina olleet paljon enemmän kuin jäätelöä. Käytämme valtaamme, etuoikeuksiamme, korokettamme ja suhteitamme faneihimme siihen, että ajamme edistyksellistä yhteiskunnallista muutosta. Joten emme aio keskittyä pelkästään jäätelöön, videolla kerrotaan.

– Emmekä koskaan lakkaa yrittämästä murtaa valkoinen ylivalta, lopettaa ilmastokriisi ja taistella demokratiamme puolesta, julistus jatkuu videolla.

Yritys kertoo myös puolustavansa transihmisten asioita ja oikeutta aborttiin.

Ben & Jerry's kuvailee videolla olevansa "aktivistiyritys".

– Ja tiedämme, että fanimme eivät halua tämän asian olevan mitenkään toisin. Vaikka rakastamme tehdä parasta mahdollista jäätelöä parhaalla mahdollisella tavalla, maailma tarvitsee enemmän kuin pelkkää loistavaa jäätelöä

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https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/jaateloyhtio-ben-jerrys-haluaa-murtaa-valkoisen-ylivallan/#8bf241c5 (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/jaateloyhtio-ben-jerrys-haluaa-murtaa-valkoisen-ylivallan/#8bf241c5)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 08:58:37
Jaaha Ben&Jerrys meni just boikottilistalleni. Joskus tullut ostettua, mutta se loppui nyt.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 28.01.2025, 11:47:28
BlackRock pakottaa yritykset palkkaamaan vähemmistöjä. Eli huonompia parempien tilalle. Eli värikkäitä valkoisten tilalle. Valkoisuus on hävitettävä.

[tweet]1884154185870139817[/tweet]

"BlackRock's CEO and his cabal of global overlords believe freedom is dead and now we must all bow down as their slaves. They are hellbent on forcing compliance globally, any way they can. This is a dire threat to humanity that demands our full attention."

"This isn't just some crazy conspiracy theory. The evidence of a globalist power grab and push towards total control is overwhelming. We must resist their tyrannical agenda before it's too late!"
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: l'uomo normale on 28.01.2025, 11:53:08
Quote from: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 08:58:37
Jaaha Ben&Jerrys meni just boikottilistalleni. Joskus tullut ostettua, mutta se loppui nyt.

Ben & Jerry's on nykyään osa Unileveria. Alabrändin edistyksellisyys on varmasti osa emoyhtiön strategiaa. Tulee paljon boikotoitavaa, jos haluaa olla rahoittamatta noita ideologioita.

https://www.unilever.com/brands/
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 15:06:56
Quote from: l'uomo normale on 28.01.2025, 11:53:08
Quote from: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 08:58:37
Jaaha Ben&Jerrys meni just boikottilistalleni. Joskus tullut ostettua, mutta se loppui nyt.

Ben & Jerry's on nykyään osa Unileveria. Alabrändin edistyksellisyys on varmasti osa emoyhtiön strategiaa. Tulee paljon boikotoitavaa, jos haluaa olla rahoittamatta noita ideologioita.

https://www.unilever.com/brands/
Kyllä, pitäisi olla netissä lista wokettavista brändeistä ja firmoista, että muistaisi. Ja päinvastoin niistä jotka EIVÄT harrasta DEI pelleilyä.
Wokeista muistuu nyt mieleen ben&jerrys ja jaguar
Ei wokeista Harley Davidson ...
Suomessa taitaa suurin osa isoista firmoista mokuttaa ja wokettaa, että hankalaahan tämä on.
Joku voisi laatia listat näistä, niin olisi helpompaa. Ben&jerrys on nyt helppo muistaa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 28.01.2025, 21:17:40
Quote from: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 15:06:56

Suomessa taitaa suurin osa isoista firmoista mokuttaa ja wokettaa, että hankalaahan tämä on.
Joku voisi laatia listat näistä, niin olisi helpompaa. Ben&jerrys on nyt helppo muistaa.

pääsi pieni hörähdys. Kyllä on elämä vaikeaa  :D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.01.2025, 16:32:42
Edellisen tiedottajan ansiot: musta, lesbo, siirtolainen. DEI, DEI, DEI.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 29.01.2025, 21:35:46
Wokevirus monistui globaaliksi epidemiaksi kahdessa vuosikymmenessä, yliopistojen ja valtamedian avulla. Aika hurjaa!

Kuvaajissa esitetään woke-sanojen lisääntyminen eri maiden lehdistöissä vuosina 2000-2021. Liitteessä tarkempi kuva.

[tweet]1884604028987781139[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 03.02.2025, 13:00:58
 :facepalm:

[tweet]1886114988969861132[/tweet]

https://x.com/MediasLies/status/1886114988969861132

'DEI is a tool' to bring in the 'best and the brightest': Donna Brazile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB3FO30mO40

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here are 10 memorable quotes from Brazile at AU.

1. On her acting performances and political battles: "I've appeared on The Good Wife and House of Cards, but after all these years in American politics, I'm probably best suited for the Game of Thrones. I've dealt with just about everything this side of dragons. But who knows? This political season is still unfolding. I might be the dragon soon."

2. On the importance of the younger generation: "When it comes to young people, it's time that politicians start listening to you. You're the most optimistic group of people in this country," she said. "I think every one of you should sign up to run in the next election. And why you? Because there's no one better. And why now? Because tomorrow is not soon enough."

3. On dancing with President Barack Obama: "Y'all saw him in Argentina last night putting that move on and doing that dance? Well, let me tell you, I taught him everything he knows about doing the cha-cha and the tango."

4. Of course, the name "Donald Trump" came up quite a bit: "Donald Trump's strategy has been to try to mirror the electorate—to mirror their fears, their anger, their animosity, their prejudices. And the media loves it, because it's outrageous."

5. About Trump's relationship with Republicans: "A major political party has been taken over by an alien—a political alien. He's not one of them. He's not a real conservative. When is the last time you heard a conversation about the budget?"

6. On Hillary Clinton: "She is comfortable in a small room. She's not comfortable on a stage with 20,000 people," Brazile said. "She has to run the campaign that she is comfortable with, and we have to accept the fact that she's going to run a campaign that is policy driven."

7. About being a Democratic superdelegate: "This is what we look like," she said. "Many of us are minorities. We're members of the labor movement, we're civil rights leaders, we're political activists, we're women's rights leaders, we're gay rights leaders, we're elected officials. We're super, but we're not superior."

8. After a student asked why women in leadership positions get saddled with the "bossy" label: "Be the boss of your future, be the boss of your community, be the boss of this country. I'm looking for more bossy women tonight!"

9. The assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr. left her distraught, and changed her life: "I knew then what I wanted to do with my life," she said. "I wanted to work for civil rights and justice and equality, no matter the cost."

10. On seizing the moment: "This is a wonderful period of time for those of you who love politics," she said. "To answer the call to serve, to answer the call to lead, and more importantly, to give back and pay it forward."

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 03.02.2025, 13:24:20
Quote from: Golimar on 03.02.2025, 13:00:58
'DEI is a tool' to bring in the 'best and the brightest': Donna Brazile

Kommentit:

Quote- If DEI is a "tool" to bring in the best and brightest - then its not necessary, because that's what every employer should be looking for in the first place!

- DEI is the exact opposite of bringing in the "best and the brightest".

- DEI: Didn't Earn It.

- DEI, by definition, lowers standards and sacrifices merit on the altar of ideology.

- If they're really the "best and brightest" you don't need DEI to get them hired. Idiocy 😂
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Karjala on 03.02.2025, 21:25:05
Quote from: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 15:06:56
Kyllä, pitäisi olla netissä lista wokettavista brändeistä ja firmoista, että muistaisi. Ja päinvastoin niistä jotka EIVÄT harrasta DEI pelleilyä.

🔗 HommaWiki > Moninaisuus, yhdenvertaisuus ja osallisuus (https://wiki.hommaforum.org/wiki/Moninaisuus,_yhdenvertaisuus_ja_osallisuus)

Quote from: HommaWiki
Accenture[5]
Airbnb[6]
Alko[7]
Alphabet[8][9]
Apple[10][11][12][13]
Are[7]
Avance Asianajotoimisto[7]
Berner[14][15]
Cargotec[16]
CSC-Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus[7]
Cisco[17][18]
Citycon[19]
DB Schenker[20]
Digia[7]
DNA[21]
Duolingo[22]
Elenia[7]
Elisa[23]
Ernst & Young[24]
F-Secure[25]
Fazer[7]
Finnair[26]
Fiskars[27]
Fortum[7][28]
Gofore[29][30]
Huhtamäki[31][32]
Intel[33][34]
Jaguar[35][36][37]
Jonhson[38]
Kemira[39]
Kesko[7]
Kone[40]
Konecranes[41]
Kotipizza[7]
KPMG[42]
Kuusakoski[7]
Lidl[43]
Linkedin[44]
Lumene[45]
Marimekko[46][47]
Mastercard[48]
McDonald's[49][50]
Mehiläinen[7]
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Nordea[56]
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MTV[58]
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Orion[60][61]
Otava[7]
Oura[62][parempi lähde tarvitaan]
Posti[7]
Puuilo[63][64]
S-ryhmä[7]
Salesforce[65][66][67]
Sampo[68]
Sanoma[69][70][71]
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Sitowise[72]
Skanska[7]
Sodexo[73]
St1[74]
Starbucks[75][76]
Stockmann[77]
Stora Enso[7]
Suunto[78]
Säästöpankki[79]
Telia[80]
Terveystalo[81]
Uber[82]
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Valmet[85]
Veikkaus[7]
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Wolt[88]
Wärtsilä[89][90]
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: qwerty on 03.02.2025, 23:37:00
Miten nuo erittäin tärkeät projektit tulevat jatkossa toimeen ilman USA:n veronmaksajilta riistettyä rahoitusta? :( Ehkä suomalaisilta varastetuilla varoilla?
[tweet]1886515818264973705[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 04.02.2025, 20:34:47
Oscar-suosikin vanhat postaukset kaivettiin esiin ja kaikki romahti
https://www.hs.fi/kulttuuri/art-2000011009843.html
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Palkittu gangsterimusikaali Emilia Pérez oli viime vuoden elokuvatapauksia ja suuri Oscar-suosikki. Nyt kaikki näyttää valuvan hukkaan.
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Tämän hetken kuumin puheenaihe elokuva-alalla on Emilia Pérez (2024) ja sen vajoavat Oscar-mahdollisuudet. Sukupuoltaan korjaavasta gangsterista kertova musikaalielokuva oli yksi vahvoista ennakkosuosikeista, mutta nyt tilanne on dramaattisesti muuttunut (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/jan/30/emilia-perez-karla-sofia-gascon-inflammatory-tweets).

Syynä ovat erityisesti pääosaa esittävän espanjalaisen Karla Sofía Gascónin (https://www.hs.fi/haku/?query=Karla%20Sof%C3%ADa%20Gasc%C3%B3nin) muutaman vuoden takaa esiin kaivetut somepostaukset. Gascón teki Oscar-historiaa olemalla ensimmäinen transnainen, joka on ehdolla parhaan naispääosan kategoriassa.
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Töitä onkin riittänyt, sillä elokuva on saanut poikkeuksellisen paljon rapaa niskaansa poikkeuksellisen monelta suunnalta. Muun muassa sen käsityksen transidentiteetistä on katsottu olevan hutiloitu tai vähintäänkin pintapuolinen. On myös ihmetelty, miksi Meksikosta kertovassa elokuvassa on niin vähän meksikolaisia näyttelijöitä.
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Sitten kaikki mureni Gascónin muutaman vuoden takaisiin somepostauksiin.

Kirjoituksissaan hän on kommentoinut muun muassa muslimikulttuuria, George Floydia ja monimuotoisuutta. Näyttelijä roimi postauksissaan rankalla kädellä myös vuoden 2021 Oscar-gaalaa:

"Yhä useammat #Oscars näyttävät riippumattomien ja protestielokuvien seremonialta. En tiennyt, katsoinko afrokorealaista festivaalia, Black Lives Matter -mielenosoitusta vai 8M: ää. Sen lisäksi se on ruma, ruma gaala."

8M-termillä Gascón tarkoitti Naistenpäivää eikä tarkoittanut sillä hyvää.
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Näyttelijä itse pyysi viestittelyään anteeksi viimeksi torstaina.

"Vähemmistön edustajana tunnen kärsimyksen hyvin ja olen pahoillani niiden puolesta, joille olen aiheuttanut tuskaa. Olen taistellut koko ikäni paremman maailman puolesta ja uskon, että valo voittaa aina pimeyden", hän kirjoitti tuoreimmassa viestissään.

Kujanjuoksu loppui lyhyeen, ja pian tämän jälkeen näyttelijä poisti X-tilinsä.
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Syyttävä sormi tapahtuneesta osoittaa nyt hänen lisäkseen myös Netflixin markkinointikoneistoon. Esimerkiksi Varietyn kolumnisti Richard Lawson (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/story/emilia-perez-karla-sofia-gascon-netflix-tweets) pitää järjettömänä, ettei Netflix ottanut selvää päätähtensä somemenneisyydestä ennen kallista kampanjaa.

Nyt laskun maksavat muut Emilia Pérezin tekoon osallistuneet ammattilaiset sekä nykyisessä ilmapiirissä uudelleen uhatuiksi tulleet transihmisten oikeudet.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 04.02.2025, 22:43:58
"Transihmisten oikeudet"...
Mitä ne ovat ja miten ne ovat nyt uhattuna?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 05.02.2025, 21:19:41
Miehet eivät pääse enää kilpailemaan naisia vastaan. :flowerhat:

[tweet]1887206342512787757[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 06.02.2025, 08:12:24
Ei transuja olympialaisiin. :flowerhat:

Varmaan suunnitelmana oli suorittaa varsinainen miesten esiinmarssi naisten lajeissa kun kisat pidetään Los Angelesissa.

QuoteBREAKING: President Trump just directed DHS Secretary Kristi Noem to ban trans athletes from entering the United States to compete against women.

"To deny any and all visa applications made by men attempting to fraudulently enter the United States while identifying themselves as women athletes try and get into the Games..."

[Tweet]1887248056153952493[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 06.02.2025, 09:02:35
Quote from: Valli on 06.02.2025, 08:12:24
Ei transuja olympialaisiin. :flowerhat:

Varmaan suunnitelmana oli suorittaa varsinainen miesten esiinmarssi naisten lajeissa kun kisat pidetään Los Angelesissa.

QuoteBREAKING: President Trump just directed DHS Secretary Kristi Noem to ban trans athletes from entering the United States to compete against women.

"To deny any and all visa applications made by men attempting to fraudulently enter the United States while identifying themselves as women athletes try and get into the Games..."

Saa nähdä, miten kohdellaan paria nyrkkeilyn olympiavoittajaa, jos he pyrkivät puolustamaan kultamitaleitaan Los Angelesissa.  Hehän eivät ole oikeastaan transuja, kun he itse ja ympäristö ovat syntymästään nähneet heidät naisina, kuten CNN (https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics/olympic-womens-boxers-transitioned-trump-fact-check/index.html) kertoo omassa faktantarkistuksessaan:
QuoteTrump's claims are not true. These two Olympic champions, welterweight gold medalist Imane Khelif of Algeria and featherweight gold medalist Lin Yu‑ting of Taiwan, never "transitioned." Both were identified as female at birth and have always competed as women.

Urheilussa miehisellä biologialla on kuitenkin suorituskykyyn keskeinen merkitys, eikä terveellä järjellä ajateltuna virheellinen rekisteröinti syntyessä saisi antaa kenellekään ansaitsematonta etua kilpailussa.

Vaikuttaa siltä, että monet kansainväliset urheiluliitot ovat väiaikaisen "woke"-vaiheen jälkeen alkaneet suhtautumaan nuivemmin kiveksellisiin "naisiin".  Kansainvälisen olympiakomiteankin suhtautumiseen saattaa tulla muutos puheenjohtajavaihdoksen jälkeen. Yksi ehdokkaista, kansainvälisen yleisurheiluliiton presidentti Sebastian Coe (https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/articles/cq6l0qgp935o):
Quote"I think the International Olympic Committee needs a very, very clear policy in this space," Coe told BBC sports editor Dan Roan.

"And the protection of the female category, for me, is absolutely non-negotiable.

"If you are not prepared to do that, and that is where the international federations expect a lead to be taken, then you really will lose female sport and I'm not prepared to see that happen.

"I'm not sure that policy is clear enough at the moment."

Ehkäpä ei tarvita Trumpin väliintuloa?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: KamalaJari on 06.02.2025, 09:14:53
Voimailu ja kamppailulajeissa tämä hulluus konkretisoitui , vastenmielistä katsottavaa kun kuviteltu nainen takoo kuonoon kehässä biologista naista ja joidenkin mielestä homma ok ?
Miten helvetissä tälläinen paska on koskaan alkanut mennä läpi , onkohan ilmakehässä jotain joka on alkanut sekoittaa ihmisten aivotomintaa ?
Onni että Trump voitti vaalit .
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 06.02.2025, 09:38:30
Melko rajua kuvastoa tuossa benjerrysin jäätelö valmistajien julistuksessa. Tulee hyvin selväksi miten valkoisen ylivallan purkaminen toivotaan tapahtuvan. Kuvassa seisoo tummapintainen hahmo sateenkaari viitta päällä. Kädessä viidakkoveitsi. Takana palaa asuntoja ja paljon savua. Toisessa kädessä roikottaa vaakaan jossa irtileikattusydän ja joku höyhen. Palavat asunnot ympäröity muurilla ja piikkilangalla.

Sanon tässä nyt seuraavaa kuuntele tarkkaan benjerry. En ole koskaan pyytänyt syntyä suomalaiseksi, en koskaan ole valinnut vaaleaa ihoni pigmenttiä. Synnyin köyhille vanhemmille, kouluttauduin, teen työtä, maksan veroja, en tee rikoksia ja olen ystävällinen kaikille. Kaiken tämän jälkeen te esitätte miten minut ja läheiseni pitää polttaa ja kaivaa sydän irti ruumiista. Minä en ole julistautunut teidän vihollisesi, te julistitte olevani minun vihollinen. Pyritte tuhoamaan minut ja kaikki vaaleaan ihonpigmenttiin ilman omaa syytään syntyneet maailmasta. Selvyyden vuoksi: En hyväksy ajatteluanne. Jos ryhdytte toimimaan tuhoamisekseni, varaan oikeuden toimia teitä vastaan kaikella tarmollani, kyvylläni ja keinoilla ilman rajoituksia. En tule luopumaan elämästäni, tai läheisteni elämästä suosiolla. Muistakaa myös Raamatun oppi: "joka viidakkoveitseen tarttuu, se miekkaan hukkuu".
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Post by: Sakari on 06.02.2025, 10:04:44
Lisään vielä. Viranomaisten olisi syytä määrätä Unilever/benjerrys toiminta kieltoon. Syynä väkivaltaan yllätys.

Ajatella jos esim. Suomalainen Kone menisi julkaisemaan tuollaista kuvastoa. Miten vaikka Afrikassa asiaan suhtauduttaisiin? Alkaisiko myyntikäyrät nousta.

Muutenkaan en käsitä woke firmojen myyntistrategiaa, kun suurimmat ostajaryhmät valkoisia länsimaalaisia. Joku on osannut hyvin myydä tuon woken firmojen toimateille.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Weijer on 06.02.2025, 10:26:42
Itteäni on aina ihmetyttänyt homo&trans-ihmisten jopa suunnaton halu tuoda omaa identiteettiään julkisuuteen toitottamalla sitä pitkin poikin.
Mitä vittua se mulle kuuluu, jos joku George, Liisa tahi Gunnar ovat mitä ovat.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Emo on 06.02.2025, 10:28:33
Quote from: Velkku on 28.01.2025, 21:17:40
Quote from: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 15:06:56

Suomessa taitaa suurin osa isoista firmoista mokuttaa ja wokettaa, että hankalaahan tämä on.
Joku voisi laatia listat näistä, niin olisi helpompaa. Ben&jerrys on nyt helppo muistaa.

pääsi pieni hörähdys. Kyllä on elämä vaikeaa  :D

Oletko @Velkku valkoihoinen? Ei sinun elämäsi ole vaikeaa, wokettajien mukaan sinut saa tappaa.
Loppuu vaikeus. Loppuu vaikea elämä kaikilta meiltä.

Siittä olen iloinen, että naisurheilu puhdistetaan miehistä. Haistakoot naista imitoivat transukot pitkän vitun.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Weijer on 06.02.2025, 10:53:41
Quote from: Emo on 06.02.2025, 10:28:33
Quote from: Velkku on 28.01.2025, 21:17:40
Quote from: Caucasian on 28.01.2025, 15:06:56

Suomessa taitaa suurin osa isoista firmoista mokuttaa ja wokettaa, että hankalaahan tämä on.
Joku voisi laatia listat näistä, niin olisi helpompaa. Ben&jerrys on nyt helppo muistaa.

pääsi pieni hörähdys. Kyllä on elämä vaikeaa  :D

Oletko @Velkku valkoihoinen? Ei sinun elämäsi ole vaikeaa, wokettajien mukaan sinut saa tappaa.
Loppuu vaikeus. Loppuu vaikea elämä kaikilta meiltä.

Siittä olen iloinen, että naisurheilu puhdistetaan miehistä. Haistakoot naista imitoivat transukot pitkän vitun.
Olen, Emo, samaa mieltä mitä kirjoitit viimeisessä lauseessa. Kilpaurheilu tapetaan, kun mimmit innoissan lähtevät kisailemaan ihan vaan huvikseen vanhempiensa ja kilpailuviettinsä kannustamana, ja sitten siellä skaboissa onkin joku vähän muijaa muistuttava mörökölli totisena testosteronihikeä valuvana siinä vieressä(esim. pikajuoksu), joka voittaa 20llä metrillä naisten 400.
Kenties ei motivoi jatkaa harrastusta...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: hullukallio on 06.02.2025, 13:36:54
Lisää antirasismisekoilua: Ilkka-Pohjalainen uutisoi 6.2.2025 Seinäjoen pyristelevän irti rasismista:
https://ilkkapohjalainen.fi/uutiset/sein%C3%A4joki-pyristelee-irti-rasismista (https://ilkkapohjalainen.fi/uutiset/sein%C3%A4joki-pyristelee-irti-rasismista)
Mamukiima paistaa jutusta läpi. Ensiksi jutussa sanotaan:
QuoteSeinäjoki on kansainvälistymisessä verrokkikaupunkeihinsa nähden selkeästi takamatkalla.
Sen jälkeen alla on taulukko vieraskielisten osuuksista verrokkikaupungeissa 2023 ja se näyttää että Seinäjoella on "vain" 4,5 prosenttia vieraskielisiä.
Miksi ihmeessä ajatellaan että "takamatkalla"? Miksi maahanmuuttajia pitäisi olla enemmän?
Ymmärsinkö rivien välistä oiken?:
Jos joku ajattelee että maahanmuuttajia pitäisi olla vähemmän = se olisi rasismia
Jos joku ajattelee että maahanmuuttajia pitää olla enemmän = se on antirasismia

Jutussa höpistään salaliittoteoriaa "rakenteellisesta rasismista":
QuoteRakenteellinen rasismi purettava
Kaupunki on mukana myös valtioneuvoston Me puhumme teoin -kampanjassa, joka keskittyy purkamaan rakenteellista rasismia. Seinäjoen konkreettisessa sitoumuksessa luvataan lisätä keskustelua yhdenvertaisuudesta ja kouluttaa henkilöstöä rasismiin puuttumisessa.
Seinäjoen rasismiongelman laajuudesta ei löydy varsinaisia tutkimustuloksia, mutta valtakunnalliset tilastot antavat suuntaa. Selvää on, ettei antirasistisen työn tarve synny maakuntakeskuksessakaan tyhjiöstä.
Jutussa esiintyvä (ja ilmeisesti Seinäjoella tätä projektia vetävä) Seinäjoen hyvinvointipäällikkö on kaupunginvaltuuston entinen Vihreiden valtuutettu: https://yle.fi/a/3-12411842 (https://yle.fi/a/3-12411842)
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.02.2025, 16:05:24
Quote from: Golimar on 28.01.2025, 07:10:00
QuoteKäytämme valtaamme ... siihen, että ... – Emmekä koskaan lakkaa yrittämästä murtaa valkoinen ylivalta, lopettaa ilmastokriisi ja taistella demokratiamme puolesta, julistus jatkuu videolla.

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/jaateloyhtio-ben-jerrys-haluaa-murtaa-valkoisen-ylivallan/#8bf241c5 (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/jaateloyhtio-ben-jerrys-haluaa-murtaa-valkoisen-ylivallan/#8bf241c5)

Juutalainen jäätelövalta murtamassa jääkarhuylivaltaa. [Snadi EDIT] Yrittääkö joku jälleen ylipelata omaa kättään?

Quote from: Sakari on 06.02.2025, 09:38:30
Melko rajua kuvastoa tuossa benjerrysin jäätelö valmistajien julistuksessa. ... Pyritte tuhoamaan minut ja kaikki vaaleaan ihonpigmenttiin ilman omaa syytään syntyneet maailmasta. ... Muistakaa myös Raamatun oppi: "joka viidakkoveitseen tarttuu, se miekkaan hukkuu".
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: P on 06.02.2025, 17:42:11
Suuryrityksen jäätelö.  ;D

Ben and Jerry`sin omistaa Unilever...  Kapinatyöläisyyden uskottavuus on +-0.

"Sale of company to Unilever

In April 2000, Ben & Jerry's sold itself to British multinational food giant Unilever.[16] In the acquisition agreement, Unilever agreed to carry on the company's tradition of engaging "in these critical, global economic and social missions".[17] Following the acquisition, both founders remained employed at the company, though not in a position of operational or managerial responsibility,[18] though Cohen remained on the governing board of directors."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_%26_Jerry%27s
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Weijer on 06.02.2025, 18:46:25
Quote from: hullukallio on 06.02.2025, 13:36:54
Lisää antirasismisekoilua: Ilkka-Pohjalainen uutisoi 6.2.2025 Seinäjoen pyristelevän irti rasismista:
https://ilkkapohjalainen.fi/uutiset/sein%C3%A4joki-pyristelee-irti-rasismista (https://ilkkapohjalainen.fi/uutiset/sein%C3%A4joki-pyristelee-irti-rasismista)
Mamukiima paistaa jutusta läpi. Ensiksi jutussa sanotaan:
QuoteSeinäjoki on kansainvälistymisessä verrokkikaupunkeihinsa nähden selkeästi takamatkalla.
Sen jälkeen alla on taulukko vieraskielisten osuuksista verrokkikaupungeissa 2023 ja se näyttää että Seinäjoella on "vain" 4,5 prosenttia vieraskielisiä.
Miksi ihmeessä ajatellaan että "takamatkalla"? Miksi maahanmuuttajia pitäisi olla enemmän?
Ymmärsinkö rivien välistä oiken?:
Jos joku ajattelee että maahanmuuttajia pitäisi olla vähemmän = se olisi rasismia
Jos joku ajattelee että maahanmuuttajia pitää olla enemmän = se on antirasismia

Jutussa höpistään salaliittoteoriaa "rakenteellisesta rasismista":
QuoteRakenteellinen rasismi purettava
Kaupunki on mukana myös valtioneuvoston Me puhumme teoin -kampanjassa, joka keskittyy purkamaan rakenteellista rasismia. Seinäjoen konkreettisessa sitoumuksessa luvataan lisätä keskustelua yhdenvertaisuudesta ja kouluttaa henkilöstöä rasismiin puuttumisessa.
Seinäjoen rasismiongelman laajuudesta ei löydy varsinaisia tutkimustuloksia, mutta valtakunnalliset tilastot antavat suuntaa. Selvää on, ettei antirasistisen työn tarve synny maakuntakeskuksessakaan tyhjiöstä.
Jutussa esiintyvä (ja ilmeisesti Seinäjoella tätä projektia vetävä) Seinäjoen hyvinvointipäällikkö on kaupunginvaltuuston entinen Vihreiden valtuutettu: https://yle.fi/a/3-12411842 (https://yle.fi/a/3-12411842)
"Takamatkalla" joo. Minne?
Seinäjoen mamu% -4,5- on varmaankin aika passeli Seinäjoen hyvinvointialueen budjettia ajatellen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Näkkileipä on 06.02.2025, 19:22:09
Quote from: Weijer on 06.02.2025, 10:26:42
Itteäni on aina ihmetyttänyt homo&trans-ihmisten jopa suunnaton halu tuoda omaa identiteettiään julkisuuteen toitottamalla sitä pitkin poikin.
Mitä vittua se mulle kuuluu, jos joku George, Liisa tahi Gunnar ovat mitä ovat.
Vielä kun ihmiset ymmärtäisivät reagoida oikein noihin ulostuloihin.
"Entä sitten?"

Jokainen ihminen on yksilö ja ihmisenä täsmälleen samanarvoinen, kuin kuka tahansa muukin.

Miksi tuota edellä mainittua yhdenvertaisuuden ja ehdottoman tasa-arvoista ajatusta on täysin mahdotonta, hyväksyä Hyvien Ihmisten toimesta, vaan heidän täytyy nostaa jotkut ihmiset muiden ja varsinkin kritiikin yläpuolelle?

Tämä on pelkkä oletus mutta uskon, että nuo trans & vastaavien julkiset ulostulot omasta identiteetistään, kuuluvat  hyvin pieneen ja erittäin huomion hakuiseen ihmisryhmään ja suurin osa trans & vastaavista, elävät omaa elämäänsä ilman mitään tarvetta julistaa identiteettiään tai vaatia maailman hyväksyntää itsekseen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Vesa Heimo on 06.02.2025, 19:41:22
Quote from: Näkkileipä on 06.02.2025, 19:22:09

Jokainen ihminen on yksilö ja ihmisenä täsmälleen samanarvoinen, kuin kuka tahansa muukin.


Tottakai on. Suurin osa maailmasta vaan on sitä vastaan. Se on realiteetti, ja sen takia on hyvä pitää tosiaan tuota yllä että jokainen ihminen on yksilö ja samanarvoinen kun kuka tahansa muukin.
Quote from: Näkkileipä on 06.02.2025, 19:22:09

...julkiset ulostulot omasta identiteetistään, kuuluvat  hyvin pieneen ja erittäin huomion hakuiseen ihmisryhmään..

Öö.. Katso mikä tahansa lehti, niin pääosin siellä heterot julistelee milloin mitäkin parisuhdettaan. Eli, kyllä, näköjään ulostulot omasta identiteetistään ovat ihan perusviihdettä eivätkä ne yleensä aiheuta vastareaktota ja vihaa. Toki ovat erittäin huominhakuisen ihmisryhmän ulostuloja lähes aina.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Weijer on 06.02.2025, 20:46:58
Quote from: Näkkileipä on 06.02.2025, 19:22:09
Quote from: Weijer on 06.02.2025, 10:26:42
Itteäni on aina ihmetyttänyt homo&trans-ihmisten jopa suunnaton halu tuoda omaa identiteettiään julkisuuteen toitottamalla sitä pitkin poikin.
Mitä vittua se mulle kuuluu, jos joku George, Liisa tahi Gunnar ovat mitä ovat.
Vielä kun ihmiset ymmärtäisivät reagoida oikein noihin ulostuloihin.
"Entä sitten?"

Jokainen ihminen on yksilö ja ihmisenä täsmälleen samanarvoinen, kuin kuka tahansa muukin.

Miksi tuota edellä mainittua yhdenvertaisuuden ja ehdottoman tasa-arvoista ajatusta on täysin mahdotonta, hyväksyä Hyvien Ihmisten toimesta, vaan heidän täytyy nostaa jotkut ihmiset muiden ja varsinkin kritiikin yläpuolelle?

Tämä on pelkkä oletus mutta uskon, että nuo trans & vastaavien julkiset ulostulot omasta identiteetistään, kuuluvat  hyvin pieneen ja erittäin huomion hakuiseen ihmisryhmään ja suurin osa trans & vastaavista, elävät omaa elämäänsä ilman mitään tarvetta julistaa identiteettiään tai vaatia maailman hyväksyntää itsekseen.
Hyvä ja hyvin muotoiltu kirjoitus Näkkäriltä.
Ei haittaa tippaakaan, kun vastaan kävelee äijät käsi kädessä, tai mimmit. Mut silloin, kun alkavat tuomaan esille tilannettaan siihen malliin, että haluavat jonkinlaista kannanottoa, niin se on vähän omituista. Ei kiinnosta tipan vertaa.
Kyllä toi keltainen lehdistö nostaa aika railakkaasti näitä tyrkkyjä framille. Nostakoon.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: DuPont on 06.02.2025, 20:50:30
En minäkään pidä Sebastian Tynkkysen parisuhdekommenteista, en pidä niistä, ohitan. Itse luen vain hänen poliittisia viestejään, joista usein tykkään. Ei ole pakko tykätä tai kieltää mitään, sen kun keskittyy oikeisiin asioihin.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 06.02.2025, 22:41:52
Quote from: Weijer on 06.02.2025, 20:46:58Ei haittaa tippaakaan, kun vastaan kävelee ... käsi kädessä ... mimmit. Mut silloin, kun alkavat tuomaan esille tilannettaan siihen malliin, että haluavat jonkinlaista kannanottoa ...

Nuorempana jotkut halusivat kannanottoa, mutta toinen - se prospektinityttöystäväni  tyttöystävä - oli valitettavasti aina sellainen, että se ei niinku sillain kolmantena pyörä ollenkaan kiinnostanut.  Ei ollu mun tyyppiä. Sääli.

Type O Negative - My Girlfriend's Girlfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkBWZXVLyk

Mitä itse asiaan tulee, niin Tynkkynen on mielestäni menetetty tapaus.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Weijer on 07.02.2025, 12:52:35
https://www.is.fi/urheilu/art-2000010980267.html

Jade on oikeassa. Ei miehestä naiseen sukupuolensa vaihtanutta naisten sarjoihin. Kuten Jade N. tossa jutussa mainitsee, niin ei se mieshormoni kehosta pois myllerry kokonaan koskaan, varsinkaan jos murrosiän on elänyt miessukupuolisena.
Hyvä Jade, erittäin selväjärkinen kannanotto!
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Suupala on 08.02.2025, 12:22:22
Ympäri käydään yhteen tullaan.
Ympyrä on sulkeutumassa.
Eikä ottanut kuin 50 vuotta.
Jarmila Kratochvilova oli juoksija, Jarmo kuten täällä sanottiin. Näytti mieheltä ja oli hyvin ylivoimainen. Mutta ilmeisesti testosteroneilla ja analogisilla stereoilla terästetty. Silti nainen.
Prinsessa Anne osallistui ratsastuksessa 1976 olumppialaisiin kisoihin, ja silloin häneltä ei tarkastettu sukupuolta.
Muilta kisoihin osallistuneilta naisilta kyllä tarkastettiin.
Miesten sukupuolta ei silloinkaan epäilty...
Taas tulee tarkastukset. Ja taas vain naisille.
Mutta toivottavasti vain niille, jotka kävisivät miehistäkin. Turha kaikkien sukupuolta on tarkastaa, tai sitten myös miehet pitää tarkastaa.

Ja kaikkien genitaalit näkyville niin, että kaikki voi arvioida oliko päätös oikea.
Ja tämä viimeisin oli sitten yritys olla hauska. Anteeksi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 08.02.2025, 15:27:48
Quote from: Suupala on 08.02.2025, 12:22:22Miesten sukupuolta ei silloinkaan epäilty...
Taas tulee tarkastukset. Ja taas vain naisille.
Mutta toivottavasti vain niille, jotka kävisivät miehistäkin. Turha kaikkien sukupuolta on tarkastaa, tai sitten myös miehet pitää tarkastaa.
No miehiä nyt on turha tarkastaa, koska miesten kromosomeista/hormoneista on ylivoimaista etua vain naisten sarjoissa. Ei pelkkien naisten tarkastaminen mitään misogyniaa ole. Nainen miesten sarjassa häviäisi luomumiehille noin 99,9% todennäköisyydellä kumminkin, joten naisen ei yksinkertaisesti olisi mitään järkeä mennä kilpailemaan miesten sekaan. Naisten sarja suojelee naisurheilua niiltä miehiltä, jotka tietämättään tai tietoisesti larppaavat naisia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 08.02.2025, 18:38:14
Quote from: Larva on 08.02.2025, 15:27:48
Quote from: Suupala on 08.02.2025, 12:22:22Miesten sukupuolta ei silloinkaan epäilty...
Taas tulee tarkastukset. Ja taas vain naisille.
Mutta toivottavasti vain niille, jotka kävisivät miehistäkin. Turha kaikkien sukupuolta on tarkastaa, tai sitten myös miehet pitää tarkastaa.
No miehiä nyt on turha tarkastaa, koska miesten kromosomeista/hormoneista on ylivoimaista etua vain naisten sarjoissa. Ei pelkkien naisten tarkastaminen mitään misogyniaa ole. Nainen miesten sarjassa häviäisi luomumiehille noin 99,9% todennäköisyydellä kumminkin, joten naisen ei yksinkertaisesti olisi mitään järkeä mennä kilpailemaan miesten sekaan. Naisten sarja suojelee naisurheilua niiltä miehiltä, jotka tietämättään tai tietoisesti larppaavat naisia.

Suupala ei ainakaan ole nainen. Kyllähän sitä vakoa joutuu elämässään esittelemään, synnytyslääkärille, kätilöille, gynekologille parhaillaan vuosittain. Naisten edustahan tässä(kin) puhutaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Larva on 08.02.2025, 19:55:22
Quote from: Konttausta on 08.02.2025, 19:50:51Boldaamaani kohtaan: eiköhän jossakin Algeriassa ja Taiwanissa ole katsottu syntyneen lapsen sukuelimiä kun on määritetty että he ovat oikeasti naisia, eikä sitä miten rumia naisia heistä myöhemmin tulee.

Joten mielestäni ei ole mitään syytä sulkea heitä naisten sarjasta, enkä näe että heillä olisi mitään "miehistä biologista etua" naisina, vaikka ehkä pirun rumia ovatkin.
No totta helvetissä henkilöllä on miehistä etua, jos intersukupuolinen nainen omaa piilokivekset. Ne kun erittää testosteronia aina murrosiästä alkaen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 09.02.2025, 11:10:42
Quote from: Emo on 06.02.2025, 10:28:33
Oletko @Velkku valkoihoinen? Ei sinun elämäsi ole vaikeaa, wokettajien mukaan sinut saa tappaa.
Loppuu vaikeus. Loppuu vaikea elämä kaikilta meiltä.

Siittä olen iloinen, että naisurheilu puhdistetaan miehistä. Haistakoot naista imitoivat transukot pitkän vitun.

Olen, kukaan wokettaja ei ole ikinä uhannut tappaa minua. Apinoidaan vähemmän jenkkien kulttuurisotia jookos?

edit. itse asiassa minut on vain kaksi kertaa uhattu tappaa, kummallakaan kerralla kyseessä ei varmastikaan ollut wokettaja.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 09.02.2025, 20:46:36
Kokoomuksenkin lehti yrittää kalastella asialla:

Britannian terveydenhuollossa kehuskeltiin "valkoisuuden vastaisuudella"
https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/britannian-terveydenhuollossa-kehuskeltiin-valkoisuuden-vastaisuudella/
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NHS:llä on kymmeniä diversiteettiin liittyviä johtotehtäviä, joiden vuosipalkka on yli 100 000 euroa.

Julkishallinnon ja elinkeinoelämän diversiteettihankkeiden on katsottu joutuneen merkittävään vastatuuleen Yhdysvaltain presidentti Donald Trumpin uudelleenvalinnan myötä.

Arvostelijoiden mukaan "woke-ideologia" on johtanut siihen, että esimerkiksi rekrytoinneissa on painotettu muita tekijöitä hakijan pätevyyden sijasta. Kritiikkiä ei ole tullut vain oikeistopoliitikoilta, sillä Britanniassa työväenpuolueen terveysministeri Wes Streeting on hämmästellyt julkisen terveydenhuoltojärjestelmä NHS:n diversiteetti- ja inkluusiohankkeita.

Wes Streetingin mukaan NHS:n henkilökunta jopa ylpeili "valkoisuuden vastaisuudellaan" (anti-whiteness). Hän viittasi tapaukseen, jossa eräs työntekijä oli mainostanut tällä tavoin NHS:n työpaikkailmoitusta sosiaalisessa mediassa.

– Todella typeriä asioita on tehty tasa-arvon, diversiteetin ja inkluusion nimissä, terveysministeri sanoi Telegraph (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/04/stop-promoting-anti-whiteness-wes-streeting-tells-nhs/)-lehden mukaan syöpäsairauksia käsitelleessä tilaisuudessa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 09.02.2025, 20:51:18
Quote from: Larva on 08.02.2025, 19:55:22
Quote from: Konttausta on 08.02.2025, 19:50:51Boldaamaani kohtaan: eiköhän jossakin Algeriassa ja Taiwanissa ole katsottu syntyneen lapsen sukuelimiä kun on määritetty että he ovat oikeasti naisia, eikä sitä miten rumia naisia heistä myöhemmin tulee.

Joten mielestäni ei ole mitään syytä sulkea heitä naisten sarjasta, enkä näe että heillä olisi mitään "miehistä biologista etua" naisina, vaikka ehkä pirun rumia ovatkin.
No totta helvetissä henkilöllä on miehistä etua, jos intersukupuolinen nainen omaa piilokivekset. Ne kun erittää testosteronia aina murrosiästä alkaen.

Naisilla ei ole kiveksiä, ei edes piilossa.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piilokiveksisyys
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 10.02.2025, 17:54:04
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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pienivalkeapupu on 10.02.2025, 18:35:12
Kommentti: Perus­suomalaisten pervoilu pois -ehdotus yrittää kopioida Trumpin aatetta Suomeen

Kuten nykytrendeihin kuuluu, pienen viipeen sisällä amerikkalaiset aatteet rantautuvat Suomeen, kirjoittaa toimittaja Kirsi Jääskeläinen.

Woke-propagandaa tuputetaan kouluissa, ja lapsemme yritetään aivopestä.

Tähän voi tiivistää suurimman osan oikeistokonservatiivisen CPAC -konferenssin lukuisten puhujien ydinviestistä.

Pari vuotta sitten olin Yhdysvaltain-kirjeenvaihtajan ominaisuudessa Marylandissa järjestetyssä konferenssissa, jonka pääpuhujana oli Donald Trump. CPAC kokoaa yhteen trumpilaisen maga-aatteen (Make America Great Again) starat ja kannattajat.

Vuoden 2023 teemana oli Awake Not Woke. Vapaasti suomennettuna se merkitsee Hereillä mutta ei tiedostava. Wokella viitataan yleisesti progressiivisiin arvoihin, kuten ihmisten tasa-arvoisuuden lisäämiseen riippumatta sukupuolesta, seksuaalisesta suuntautumisesta tai rodusta.

Kuten nykytrendeihin kuuluu, pienen viipeen sisällä amerikkalaiset aatteet rantautuvat Suomeen – oli kyse sitten progressiivisista liikkeistä, kuten Black Lives Matter, tai konservatiivien woke-vastaisuudesta.


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Mitä magat maailmalla, sitä persut meillä perässä.

Perussuomalaisten kuntavaaliohjelmassa todetaan: "perusasiat kunniaan peruskoulussa – valistusta, ei pervoilua, kasvava lapsi tarvitsee muutakin kuin tofua".

Ilta-Sanomien vaalitentissä puolueen puheenjohtajalta Riikka Purralta kysyttiin, mitä pervoilu tarkoittaa.

Purran mukaan hyvin monet suomalaiset ymmärtävät, mitä perussuomalaiset pervoilulla tarkoittavat.

– Se on esimerkiksi sitä, että alaikäisille annetaan tehtäviä, joissa heidän pitää luokkatoveristaan kirjoittaa seksuaalifantasia. Se on esimerkiksi sitä, että ala­koululaisille annetaan ohjeita minkäänlaisiin seksuaalisiin akteihin hyvin graafisella kuvastolla esimerkiksi tai yksityiskohtaisilla ohjeilla.

Opetusalan ammattijärjestön (OAJ) puheenjohtaja Katarina Murto sanoi Helsingin Sanomille, ettäperussuomalaisten puhe "pervoilusta" kouluissa lähettää ikävän viestin koulujen arjesta.

Murto sanoi, että rehtorit ja opettajat noudattavat opetussuunnitelmia ja lainsäädäntöä. Tälle työlle ja osaamiselle Murto toivoisi arvostusta.

Murron näkemykseen on helppo yhtyä. Vaikka Suomen kouluissa on ongelmia, pervoilu ei ole yksi niistä.


Perussuomalaisten maga-kopiointi meni metsään. Kaikkia amerikkalaisia ilmiöitä ei voi kääntää sellaisinaan Suomeen.

Suomen ja Yhdysvaltain koulujärjestelmät ja niissä annettava seksuaalivalistus ovat hyvin erilaisia. Lisäksi Suomessa ei ole samaa puritaanista perintöä kuin Yhdysvalloissa, jossa edelleen seksuaalisuuteen suhtaudutaan monesti uskonnollisten linssien läpi.


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Suomalaisessa koulussa on jo pitkään annettu nimenomaan asiallista valistusta, joista voinee kiittää sitä, että nuoriso lienee varsin valistunutta ehkäisyn ja muun sukupuolielämään liittyvien asioiden kanssa. Tämä näkyy esimerkiksi siinä, että Suomessa teiniraskauksien määrä on huomattavasti pienempi kuin Yhdysvalloissa.

Pervoilu-kommenteilla saa toki huomiota, ja tällaisilla provokaatioilla saa häivytettyä huomiota valtiovarainministeripuolueelle kiusallisista asioista.

Kuntavaalien aikaan soisi kuitenkin puhuttavan oikeista ongelmista esimerkiksi kouluissa ja sotepalveluissa, koska niitäkin on.

Ihan kaikkia Amerikan kulttuurisotia ei tarvitse rahdata tänne.


https://www.is.fi/politiikka/art-2000011016357.html

...siis nyt v***u oikeesti  ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: migri on 11.02.2025, 05:06:32
Jenkkilä antaa esimerkkiä ja matka kohti normaalia on alkamassa. Toivottavasti muut seuraa perässä ennenkuin lapset ym. pilataan täysin tämän sekoilun toimesta.

Jenkkilän ilmavoimat lähetti muistion jossa ohjeistettiin ilmavoimien henkilökuntaan kuuluvien:

• lopettamaan pronominien käytön kaikessa viestinnässä
• lopettamaan kaikki apurahat, sopimukset, koulutukset ja ohjelmat jotka edistävät sukupuoli-ideologiaa (LGBTQ+ lantaa)
• varmistamaan etteivät miehet pääse naisten tiloihin
• poistamaan kaikki sukupuoli-ideologiaa edistävät mediat, ohjeet, suunnitelmat tai lomakkeet
• erottamaan kaikki henkilöt jotka ovat "sukupuoli-ideologian tehtävissä"
• purkamaan työntekijäresurssiryhmät jotka ovat koskaan edistäneet sukupuoli-ideologiaa
• poistamaan muut sukupuolivaihtoehdot lomakkeista ja jatkossa on vain mies tai nainen 

DEI ja LBTGQ+ kuonat siivotaan pois ja käytännön järki tilalle.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 11.02.2025, 09:23:16
Quote from: pienivalkeapupu on 10.02.2025, 18:35:12
Ihan kaikkia Amerikan kulttuurisotia ei tarvitse rahdata tänne.[/i]

Olipas erinomainen kirjoitus. Aivan hirveästi apinoidaan Atlantin toiselta puolelta meille asioita.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 11.02.2025, 10:41:29
Quote from: Velkku on 11.02.2025, 09:23:16
Olipas erinomainen kirjoitus. Aivan hirveästi apinoidaan Atlantin toiselta puolelta meille asioita.

Eikö "wokeilu" itsessään ole tuollainen "apinoitu" asia?

On toki ihan paikallaan itse kunkin taivastella niitä kansainvälisiä vaikutteita, jotka itseään vituttavat.  Siitä se keskustelu urkenee, jos urkenee.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 11.02.2025, 11:16:53
Quote from: Siili on 11.02.2025, 10:41:29
Eikö "wokeilu" itsessään ole tuollainen "apinoitu" asia?

On toki ihan paikallaan itse kunkin taivastella niitä kansainvälisiä vaikutteita, jotka itseään vituttavat.  Siitä se keskustelu urkenee, jos urkenee.

Kyllä wokeilukin aika pitkälti on apinoitua ja Suomessa vallan väkisin mukaan ängettyä. Jonkun värillisten tai rodullistettujen osuus Suomessa on niin pieni, että suurimman osan elämään esim. sellaiset ei vaikuta millään tavalla. Aivan eri asia kuin Yhdysvalloissa.

Esimerkkinä nyt woketuksesta meillä Afrikan tähti ja saamelaiskohut, jotka lähinnä lähinnä ovat kiusallisia. Rasismia löytyy Suomesta ilman että sitä pitää keksiä jostain lasten peleistä ja kauhistella.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Bona on 11.02.2025, 18:32:41
Meille on tuotu ne kulttuurisodat jo. Koulu on itsestään selvästi kulttuurisodan eturintama. Kollegat toisista kouluista (ja omastakin) ovat kertoneet, etteivät uskalla sanoa oppilaita tytöiksi ja pojiksi. Kuitenkin pojat toivovat kovasti, että heidät nähdään poikina, jopa nuorina miehinä. Tuollainen, että pojilta kielletään heille tärkeä asia, on sairasta ja todellakin pervoa. PS on oikealla asialla, ei tarvitse miettiä mitä puoluetta äänestää.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Velkku on 11.02.2025, 20:06:04
Quote from: Bona on 11.02.2025, 18:32:41
Meille on tuotu ne kulttuurisodat jo. Koulu on itsestään selvästi kulttuurisodan eturintama. Kollegat toisista kouluista (ja omastakin) ovat kertoneet, etteivät uskalla sanoa oppilaita tytöiksi ja pojiksi. Kuitenkin pojat toivovat kovasti, että heidät nähdään poikina, jopa nuorina miehinä. Tuollainen, että pojilta kielletään heille tärkeä asia, on sairasta ja todellakin pervoa. PS on oikealla asialla, ei tarvitse miettiä mitä puoluetta äänestää.

Ja omien lukuisien opettajatuttujen keskuudessa ei mitään tällaista ole kuulemma havaittavissa.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.02.2025, 11:42:05
Woket väärässä eilen, tänään ja huomenna.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ApuaHommmaan on 12.02.2025, 11:47:26
Eivät woket ole olleet väärässä, kun ei totuudellisuus missään vaiheessa ole merkinnyt heille yhtään mitään. Peli on vallasta. Eli tarkoituksena vallanpitäjillä on valehdella kaikista asioista saadakseen valtaa, jota voi sitten mielivaltaisesti käyttää ajamaan omia ja lähipiirin etuja.

Kaikki on psykopaateille peliä, ja peli on mahdollista, koska ihmiset ovat niin naiveja siitä mitä he ovat ja mitä he tekevät.

Suomessakin se aito meneminen ja oleminen on kiva lomareissu puolison kanssa Taiwanin tai mikä nyt vaan kustantaessa lystin. Elitistin omassa mielessä pitää olla harhakuvitelma hyväntekijästä tietenkin, vaikkei sillä todellisuuspohjaa olekaan.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Skeptikko on 13.02.2025, 17:12:20
Emeritus­professori sanoo vasemmisto­liiton peruneen hänen ehdokkuutensa, koska hän ajattelee suku­puolia olevan vain kaksi
https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000011030532.html
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Emeritusprofessori J.P. Roosin mielestä biologisia sukupuolia on kaksi, mikä oli hänen mukaansa vasemmistoliitolle liikaa. Piirihallituksen puheenjohtajan mukaan kuntavaaliehdokkuus peruttiin muista syistä.
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Hän sanoo lähestyvänsä sukupuolta tieteellisestä näkökulmasta. Hänen mielestään biologisia sukupuolia on kaksi, mutta sukupuoli-identiteettejä voi olla useampia.
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Kangas sanoo, että vasemmistoliitossa saa esittää erilaisia mielipiteitä, mutta puolue edellyttää, että sen ehdokas kunnioittaa puolueen perusarvoja eikä esitä syrjiviä kannanottoja.

Kankaan mukaan Roosin somekirjoitukset "voi tulkita niin, että hän kyseenalaistaa muiden kokemuksia ja muiden ihmisryhmien ihmisarvoa".

"Hänen kirjoituksensa voi tulkita sellaisiksi, että hän esittää syrjiviä kannanottoja sen sijaan, että hän puolustaisi yhdenvertaisuutta."
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Roos on aiemmin ollut vasemmistoliiton ehdokkaana kuntavaaleissa vuosina 2008 ja 2012.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.02.2025, 16:38:12
Sanan yleisyys massamediassa on hyvä mittari mielen viruksen tartunnasta. Se voi olla yhtä tappava kuin fyysinen virus.

[tweet]1890612949368058118[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 15.02.2025, 17:31:01
[Tweet]1890524927549149584[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 15.02.2025, 19:10:21

[Tweet]1890174548902892014[/tweet]

QuoteExceptions under the law include people ejaculating in the LGBTQ community, sperm donation, and masturbat*on.

The lawmakers say the point of "The Conception Begins at Erection Act" is to "call out the hypocrisy" of "bills that regulate women's bodies."

Men would be charged $1,000 for the first offense, $5,000 for the second offense and $10,000 for any offense after.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.02.2025, 19:16:01
^ ;D
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ämpee on 15.02.2025, 19:36:36
Quote from: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.02.2025, 16:38:12
Sanan yleisyys massamediassa on hyvä mittari mielen viruksen tartunnasta. Se voi olla yhtä tappava kuin fyysinen virus.

Kävisikö tuohon se vanha sanonta, siitä puhe mistä puute ?
Vaikea nimittäin uskoa että valistuksen lisääntyessä rassissmi lisääntyisi, mutta politiikkaa sillä silti voi tehtailla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 15.02.2025, 19:57:13
Tällä alkuperäis-uusselantilaisilla ManUp -jengillä on oikea asenne sateenkaarijengin vastustamisessa.  :D En tiedä mitä sanovat, mutta olen samaa mieltä!

Siinä alkaa naispoliisia hieman mietityttämään, että mitähän näiden kanssa tekisi.

[tweet]1890769539127783486[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: JiM on 15.02.2025, 23:28:10
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Democrat Illinois Representative Jan Schakowsky suggested in a Congressional hearing that the word 'Manufacturing' is sexist.

https://modernity.news/2025/02/14/watch-democrat-dei-brain-rot-is-a-lot-worse-than-you-think/

[tweet]1889757514738147692[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 16.02.2025, 09:14:11
Quote from: JiM on 15.02.2025, 23:28:10
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Democrat Illinois Representative Jan Schakowsky suggested in a Congressional hearing that the word 'Manufacturing' is sexist.

Uuskieltä uuskieltä Manchester United on myös rasistinen. Etenkin Man-U muodossa.

En jaksa etsiä etymologiaa, mutta näin elämänkoulupohjalta väittäisin, että manufacturing tarkoittaa käsin valmistamista. Mano/manu on latinalaisissa kielissä käsi.

Manufacturing on syrjivä siis vain kädettömiä kohtaan. Tästä voi päätellä, että koska vasemmisto on aina älymystöä ja he ovat faktaperustaisia, niin tweetin naisen pitää tietää tuokin etymologia. Joten sanoessaan "eikö manu-facturing kuulosta kovin miehiseltä" hän kertoo naisten olevan kädettömiä?

-i-
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 19.02.2025, 23:31:39
Kun sukupuoli on pätevyyttä tärkeämpää.

[tweet]1892244802692932055[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 19.02.2025, 23:49:12
DEI kokonaisvaltaisesti viturallaan.

[tweet]1892022545513079010[/tweet]

QuoteWayne Martinez @WayneM12345

DEI landed the plane.
DEI maintained the plane.
DEI managed the place.
DEI almost killed everyone onboard.
But yes, please continue to follow the DEI fallacy to its unavoidable conclusion.
In case you are too DEI to know what that end is, please continue to fly Delta.
The shallow end of the gene pool thanks you,

3:25 AM · Feb 19, 2025
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 20.02.2025, 19:08:54
 ;D

[Tweet]1892257884026601839[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 22.02.2025, 13:37:58

QuoteHunter Schafer reveals that her new passport now lists her sex as male instead of female, following Trump's instatement:

"I'm not making this post to fear-monger, or to create drama, or receive consolation, I don't need it. But I do think it's worth posting to sort of note the reality of the situation and that it's happening. I was shocked. I just didn't think it was actually going to happen. I want to acknowledge my privilege, not only as a celebrity transwoman who is white [...] I pass, and it still happened. [...] No one, no matter how wealthy or white or pretty or whatever is excluded. [...] I don't give a f**k that they put an 'M' on my passport. It doesn't change really anything about me or my transness, however, it does make life a little harder. I'm pretty sure it's gonna come along with having to out myself to border patrol agents [...] much more often than I would like to or is really necessary. And thinking about other trans women or other trans people who this might be happening to."

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 22.02.2025, 16:00:39
Quote from: Valli on 22.02.2025, 13:37:58

QuoteHunter Schafer reveals that her new passport now lists her sex as male instead of female, following Trump's instatement:

"I'm not making this post to fear-monger, or to create drama, or receive consolation, I don't need it. But I do think it's worth posting to sort of note the reality of the situation and that it's happening. I was shocked. I just didn't think it was actually going to happen. I want to acknowledge my privilege, not only as a celebrity transwoman who is white [...] I pass, and it still happened. [...] No one, no matter how wealthy or white or pretty or whatever is excluded. [...] I don't give a f**k that they put an 'M' on my passport. It doesn't change really anything about me or my transness, however, it does make life a little harder. I'm pretty sure it's gonna come along with having to out myself to border patrol agents [...] much more often than I would like to or is really necessary. And thinking about other trans women or other trans people who this might be happening to."

Pitäisikö passiin voida valita myös ikä, kansalaisuus ja silmien väri oman mielen mukaan?

Tunnen itseni yhdeksänvuotiaaksi nappisilmä-arabiksi. Miksi passissani lukee 52v sinisilmäinen suomalainen? T. Pekka.

Passi varmaan noudattaa jotain väestörekisteriä tai sosiaaliturvatunnusta. Jos niihin ei ole saanut vaihdettua sukupuolta, miksi passin pitäisi saada olla ristiriidassa todellisuuden kanssa?

Twiittaaja ei kuitenkaan kerro, että trumpin hallinto olisi muuttanut hänen sukupuoltaan jossain väestörekisterissä tai medical recordeissa?

Turhaa nillitys. Syö koko passin ja sanoo, että se putosi lentokoneen ikkunasta Atlanttiin. Niinhän paremmat ihmiset tekevät - ne, joilla on ihmisoikeus valita nimensä, kansalaisuutensa ja ikänsä. "I am seventeen and I can proof it".

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 22.02.2025, 18:32:24
 :facepalm:

[Tweet]1893067761552683211[/tweet]
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.02.2025, 03:19:05
Jos woke on äärioikeiston salaliittoteoria jota ei ole olemassa, miksi entinen Taloustutkimuksen jäbä haluaa woken takaisin?
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1. - Vaikka niissä moni asia saattaa ärsyttää, silti visioita paremmasta maailmasta
Woken parempi maailma
Saksa sitoi energiansa Venäjään, mahdollisti sodan Ukrainassa
Tuotti arvokriisin länsimaissa
Mieskehollinen lyö naista nyrkkeilyssä
Lapsille hormoneita


2. Palestiina-aktivistit estämässä juutalaisia pääsemästä yliopistoihin jenkeissä
Transaktivistit lähettämässä raiskausuhkauksia naisille, jotka puolustuvat naisten tiloja miehiltä
Maton peseminenkin on rasismia
Jne.
Kerta kaikkiaan upea parempi maailma.


3. Feministinen ulkopolitiikka?
Haukutaan länsimaisia miehiä siitä, ettei heillä ole tarpeeksi feminististiä piirteitä, olemme kaikki siksi uhkia.
Mutta ihannoidaan Lähi-idän valtioita, joissa naiseus peitetään mustalla kaavulla.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: ikuturso on 23.02.2025, 12:10:48
Quote from: Pallopääkissa on 23.02.2025, 03:19:05
Jos woke on äärioikeiston salaliittoteoria jota ei ole olemassa, miksi entinen Taloustutkimuksen jäbä haluaa woken takaisin?

Luin tuon jutun. Ei se ihan niin mennyt.
Rahkonen näkee, että wokesta ei ole vaaraa hänen kaltaiselleen jenkkiautoilevalle valkoiselle heteromiehelle. Hän naiivisti pitää wokea harmittomana. Hän sanoo, että woken kaltaiset ilmiöt syntyvät vain yhteiskunnassa, jossa kaikki on hyvin, eli ei suuria ongelmia, kun tuommoiseen voidaan käyttää aikaa.

Lisäksi hän näkee aktivismin antavan perspektiiviä ihmisille sekä toivoa paremmasta maailmasta.

Se, mitä hän ei näe, on että Euroopassa on suuria turvallisuuspoliittisia sekä maahanmuuttoon liittyviä ongelmia. Myös yhteisvaluuttaan, komissiokeskeiseen hallintoon, yhteisvelkoihin ja liittovaltiopolarisaatioon liittyy paljon pinnan alla kyteviä ongelmia. Se, että woke on kasvanut ei tarkoita, että meillä menisi hyvin, vaan se tarkoittaa sitä, että nämä ongelmat ovat niin suuria ja niiden ratkaisut ovat niin kipeitä joillekin, että nämä ratkaisut tyrmätään ihmisoikeuspuheilla ja siihen puheeseen tulee kuorrutteena woke.

Eli summa summarum: Talousrahkonen toivottaa woken tervetulleeksi ei woken itsensä vuoksi, vaan koska se tarkoittaa, että maailmassa ei ole oikeita ongelmia.

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Näitä liikkeitä voi kritisoida siitä, että ne ovat kansainvälistä tuontitavaraa eivätkä kaikki sellaisinaan istu suomalaiseen yhteiskuntaan. Niitä kuitenkin yhdistää eräs tärkeä seikka: ne ovat hyvien aikojen tuotteita.

...

Edustan varmasti joillakin mittareilla etuoikeutettua väestönosaa, olenhan korkeasti koulutettu ja kohtuullisesti tienaava jenkkiautoileva keski-ikäinen valkoinen heteromies. Silti en ole koskaan ymmärtänyt, miten esimerkiksi vähemmistöjen oikeuksien parantuminen olisi pois minun kaltaisiltani.

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Maslow'n tarvehierarkia kuvaa sitä, kuinka ihmisillä on tietyt fysiologiset ja turvallisuuteen liittyvät perustarpeet, joiden pitää olla ainakin tyydyttävällä tolalla ennen kuin ihminen voi toteuttaa korkeamman tason tarpeita, kuten luovuutta ja itsensä toteuttamista.

Myös woken tapainen toiminta sijoittuu paljolti Maslow'n tarvehierarkian ylemmille portaille. Vaikka niissä moni asia saattaakin ärsyttää, ne ovat silti visioita paremmasta maailmasta ja niissä on jotain syvästi merkityksellistä.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: pienivalkeapupu on 23.02.2025, 12:54:40
On kyllä lutuinen ja hellyyttävä kirjoitus tuo Rahkosen 'kommentti.' Ja täydellisen naiivi.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Pallopääkissa on 23.02.2025, 17:02:26
Toimin tässä "lukematta paskaa"-periaatteella, ja luin pelkästään Homman kommentit.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 25.02.2025, 07:25:07
CIA/NSA akselilla on työaikana vähän mielenkiintoisemmat chatit.

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QuoteSex, Castration & Butthole Zapping: NSA, CIA Confirm Secret 'Kink' Chat Room After Chris Rufo Bombshell

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sex-castration-butthole-zapping-nsa-cia-confirm-secret-kink-chat-room-after-chris-rufo
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 03.03.2025, 10:36:25
Quote
J.P. Pulkkinen, Ylen elokuva-asiantuntija
"Tämä näkyy oikeastaan siinä niin sanotussa moninaisuuspolitiikassa, josta Trumpin hallitus ei tykkää ollenkaan. Nimittäin se toimii kyllä Yhdysvaltain elokuva-akatemiassa oikein hyvin. Eli kun se jäsenistö, joka on noin 10 000 henkeä, siitä esimerkiksi runsaat 20 prosenttia asuu muualla kuin Yhdysvalloissa. Sinne on lisätty naisten määrää, sinne on lisätty vähemmistöjen määrää. Mikä tarkoittaa, että se katse, joka valitsee näitä parhaita elokuvia, se ei edusta pelkästään sitä 50+ valkoista amerikkalaista miestä vaan paljon muutakin. Just sitä, mitä katsojat edustaa."
Yle Uutiset (https://areena.yle.fi/1-72364600?seek=679) 2.3.2025

Höpsis. "Moninaisuuspolitiikan" tarkoitus ei ole edustaa katsojia vaan poliittista katsantokantaa, wokea.

Emilia Pérez tuskin olisi saanut peräti 13:a Oscar-ehdokkuuttaan ilman wokea, jonka ilmentymä "moninaisuuspolitiikka" on, mutta turha tulla selittämään, että se edustaisi katsojia.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Roope on 07.03.2025, 11:21:10
Petteri Summanen yritti nauraa wokelle, mutta joutui nöyrtymään woketetuksi ja pitämään siitä. Kaiken itsesensuurin jälkeenkin yksi näyttelijä lähti komediasta kesken pois, ja Summanen on saanut maineeseensa taitelijapiireissä tahran.

QuoteTurussa nauretaan seksismille ja wokelle – Yksi näyttelijöistä lähti Petteri Summasen komediasta jo harjoituksissa

Provosoiva Sisältövaroituksia-komedia vitsailee sekä seksismille että wokelle, ja yhdelle näyttelijöistä se oli liikaa. Kysyimme Petteri Summaselta, miksi hän halusi tarttua näin riskialttiiseen aihepiiriin.

[...]

Herkkien aiheiden kuten seksismin, rasismin tai woke-ajattelun nostaminen komedian välineeksi vaatii tasapainoilua. Sen löytäminen ei ollut Summasellekaan, kokeneelle komediantekijälle, aivan helppoa.

Yksi Sisältövaroituksia-esityksen kolmesta näyttelijästä päätti jättää roolinsa joulun alla, kun teos vielä haki lopullista muotoaan.

"Työryhmä oli täynnä ammattitaitoa ja henki hyvä ja keskusteleva", näyttelijä Maiju-Riina Huttunen kertoi poisjäämisestään tammikuun alussa Instagram-palvelussa.

"Valinta oli puhtaasti henkilökohtaisen arvopohjainen", Huttunen kirjoitti. Hän kertoo Helsingin Sanomille, että ei halua avata asiaa enempää.

[...]

Käytössä oli tuolloin käsikirjoituksen varhainen versio, jonka joitakin ilmaisuja Summanen kuvailee karkeammiksi kuin valmiissa esityksessä. Summanen sanoo keskustelujen kasvattaneen häntä itseäänkin.

"Hän nosti esiin muun muassa rasistisia termejä. Itsellenikin on keskeistä, että teoksessa ei lipsautella sellaisia juttuja, jotka normalisoisivat joitakin asioita, joissa jo alistettu ihmisryhmä joutuisi vielä lisää alistetuksi", Summanen muotoilee.

[...]

Summanen ei itse usko olevansa helsinkiläistä taide-eliittiä, mutta ei aivan maakuntien mieskään. Silti hän on itsekin vähän hämmentynyt ideologioihin liittyvistä ilmiöistä.

"Tässä tullaan väistämättä yhdysvaltalaisten yliopisto-opiskelijoiden keskuudessa syntyneeseen woke-kulttuuriin. Oman yksinkertaistetun tulkintani mukaan siinä on kyse siitä, että keski-ikäinen valkoihoinen länsimainen mies olisi syyllinen aika suureen osaan maailmanlaajuisista ongelmista."

Maakunnissa asuvat keski-ikäiset miehet eivät Summasen mukaan välttämättä tunnista sitä, missä määrin he olisivat vastuussa nykyisestä maailmantilasta. "Ja kun he eivät pysy kärryillä, he hämmentyvät, turhautuvat ja alkavat muodostaa tunneperäisiä vastareaktioita."

Ilmiön toinen puoli näkyy Summasen mukaan pääkaupunkiseudulla. "Asun Helsingissä Länsi-Herttoniemessä, jossa vihreys näkyy hyvällä tavalla siinä, että autoja on vähemmän, ja on suvaitsevaisuutta. Mutta aina on iso vaara, että mitä enemmän samanmielisiä pakkaantuu yhteen, siellä alkaa radikalismikin toimia."

Siksi Sisältövaroituksia irvailee myös sille, miten nopeasti somekohut nykyään syntyvät ja johtavat jonkun tuomitsemiseen.

[...]

Sisältövaroituksia-esityksen lopullista käsikirjoitusta muovasivat keskustelut koko työryhmän kanssa. Jorman kuvailu turistien viihdyttämisestä jäi esitykseen, saamelaispäähine ei. Puheeksi otettiin sekin, millaisia koomisista hahmoista tulee ja mitä termejä esityksessä käytetään.

"Otin huomioon kysymykset ja kritiikit. Reagoin niihin seikkoihin, joita pidin relevantteina", Summanen sanoo.

"Aika usein vastaukseni oli pohdinnan jälkeen, että hyvä, jätetään tällainen asia pois."

Saamelaiskulttuuri on jo aikoinaan kokenut niin paljon vääryyksiä, ettei hän halunnut niitä vahingossakaan lisätä.

"Toisaalta on iso kysymys, voiko 1970- ja 1980-luvun ajankuvaa avata komedian keinoin ilman, että samalla normalisoisi siinä ajassa olleen rasismin."

Vuoropuheluun osallistui myös Linnateatterin oma väki. Olisiko lopputulos ollut erilainen, jos Sisältövaroituksia olisi tehty Turun sijaan Helsingissä?

"Voi olla, että ajatus woken tai intersektionalismin kritisoimisesta loppubiisissä olisi Helsingissä torjuttu."

Taiteilijoiden itsesensuuria Summanen kavahtaa. Hän peräänkuuluttaa vapautta ilmaista taiteen kautta kärjekkäitäkin mielipiteitä.

"Syntyvä keskustelu voisi johtaa siihen, että pääsisimme näkemään joitakin vääryyksiä tai epäkohtia. Jos taiteilijat vaientavat itsensä, siitä syntyy vain haaleaa puuroa, jossa samanmieliset kertovat juttujaan samanmielisille."

[...]

Näyttelijöillä on Summasen mukaan nykyään mahdollisuus tulla kuulluksi sen suhteen, onko vaikkapa rooli sellainen, jota näyttelijä haluaa esittää: haluanko sanoa roolissa tällaisia asioita?

Hän korostaa, että Huttusen poisjäämisestä ei jäänyt mitään hampaankoloon. "Se vei meiltä tuotannosta viikkoja, mutta hän teki ulostulonsa ajoissa. Arvostin sitä."

Ensi-illassa helmikuun puolivälissä turkulaisyleisö taputti ja naurahteli Jorma Kovasen tarinalle pikemminkin kohteliaasti kuin riehaantuneesti. Turun Sanomien arviossaan kriitikko Frida Maria Pessi kuvaili esityksen jättäneen ristiriitaisen olon ja kysyi, kenelle esityksessä oikein nauretaan.

Mitä mieltä Summanen itse on lopputuloksesta, joka muovaantui työryhmän kanssa matkan varrella?

"Käsikirjoitus parani prosessissa, eikä kärsinyt huutoäänestyksen tai kiristämisen kaltaisista vaikuttamisista", Summanen vakuuttaa.

Helsingin Sanomat (https://www.hs.fi/taide/art-2000011031744.html) 7.3.2025

Edit:
QuoteNäyttelijät vaativat Petteri Summasta muuttamaan esitystään

Näyttelijä Reeta Vestman kertoo Iltalehdelle, mitä kaikkea Sisältövaroituksia-komediasta poistettiin.

Näyttelijä Maiju-Riina Huttunen kertoi Instagramissa jättäytyneensä pois Petteri Summasen ohjaamasta Sisältövaroituksia-komediasta. Iltalehti tavoitti näytelmässä mukana olevan Reeta Vestmanin kertomaan projektin kulusta.

Hän kertoo, että näyttelijät saivat lokakuussa ensimmäisiin lukuharjoituksiin nähtäväkseen hyvin keskeneräisen käsikirjoituksen.

– Silloin näimme vain yksittäisiä sketsejä, joista yksikään ei päätynyt lopulliseen näytelmään, Reeta Vestman kertoo.

Näyttelijäporukka kävi Summasen kanssa läpi käsikirjoitusta, jota muokattiin pitkin harjoitusaikaa.

– Harkitsin sitä, haluanko olla tässä mukana. Minäkään en missään tapauksessa hyväksy vähemmistöjen kiusaamista, enkä mitään rasistista huumoria. Mietin alun perin, miksi wokea halutaan ylipäätään käsitellä keski-ikäisen miehen kautta.

[...]

Onneksi tämä muuttui paljon siitä versiosta. Näytelmän ei lähtökohtaisesti tarvitse olla mikään todistus omista arvoistani, mutta minullekin on selkeää, millaisia asioita voin allekirjoittaa. Olen tarkka siitä, että lavalla ja katsomossa pitää olla mukava olo, kun esitän asioita yleisölle. Sen takia tätä esitystä muokattiin viimeiseen asti.

[...]

– Sieltä siivottiin seksististä kuvastoa. Oli sellaisia asioita, joita ei ole tarpeen uudestaan näyttää ja toisintaa. Sanoin, etten halua näitä tähän, Vestman sanoo.

Pois jäi hänen mukaansa päähenkilö Jorman lapsuudenleikkejä, joissa hän esitti karikatyyrisia hahmoja. Vestman sanoo olleensa tarkkana, että kohtaukseen, jossa Jorma kertoo olevansa menossa viihdyttämään Lapin-turisteja, ei otettu pukuja eikä saamelaista neljän tuulen hattua.

[...]

Eikä näytelmä huvittele pelkästään keski-ikäisen miehen tunkkaisilla arvoilla. Siinä nauretaan myös kestoloukkaantujille, yhtä railakkaasti.

– Tässä on jokaiselle jotain, Vestman naurahtaa.

Petteri Summanen kertoi Helsingin Sanomille, että koki käsikirjoituksen parantuneen työryhmän keskustelujen myötä.

[...]

Iltalehti ei tavoittanut Petteri Summasta kommentoimaan komedianäytelmää. Näyttelijä Maiju-Riina Huttunen kieltäytyi kommentoimasta projektista lähtöään Iltalehdelle.
Iltalehti (https://www.iltalehti.fi/viihdeuutiset/a/169db801-9ade-44a6-9e03-0656c294439f) 7.3.2025
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Valli on 07.03.2025, 13:15:15
Todella yllättävä tulos. Itseään silpovilla on merkittävästi suurempia ongelmia pääkoppansa kanssa kuin muilla.

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QuoteNew research from the University of Texas shows that all the justifications for mutilating children were lies. They analyzed more than 100,000 patients with gender dysphoria, and looked at the outcomes for those who received surgery vs. those who didn't.

Depression, anxiety, suicidal feelings and drug abuse were all "significantly higher" for those who received surgery compared to those who didn't.

Let's repeat that: Treating gender dysphoria with sex change surgery was linked with drastically WORSE mental health outcomes.


Phony doctors belong in prison for what they did to our children.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 07.03.2025, 15:54:49
Laitetaan nyt jatkoksi tämäkin ...
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Siili on 11.03.2025, 08:57:39
Lahjoitusvaroin toimiva tutkimuslaitos NCRI (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Contagion_Research_Institute) julkaisi tutkimuksen INSTRUCTING ANIMOSITY: HOW DEI PEDAGOGY PRODUCES THE HOSTILE ATTRIBUTION BIAS (http://chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/Instructing-Animosity_11.13.24.pdf).   Tutkimus päätyi kriittisiin johtopäätöksiin koskien DEI-koulutusta:

QuoteThe evidence presented in these studies reveals that while purporting to combat bias, some anti-oppressive DEI narratives can engender a hostile attribution bias and heighten racial suspicion, prejudicial attitudes, authoritarian policing, and support for punitive behaviors in the absence of evidence for a transgression deserving punishment.

Tutkimuksen valmistuminen ei ylittänyt keskeisten liberaalien medioden julkaisukynnystä, mikä on herättänyt epäilyjä, että raakkaamisen perusteet ovat ideologisia (https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/why-was-this-groundbreaking-study):

QuoteIn a stunning series of events, two leading media organizations—The New York Times and Bloomberg—abruptly shelved coverage of a groundbreaking study that raises serious concerns about the psychological impacts of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) pedagogy.
QuoteThis context makes the suppression of the study even more alarming. The New York Times, which has cited NCRI's work in nearly 20 previous articles, suddenly demanded that this particular research undergo peer review—a requirement that had never been imposed on the institute's earlier findings, even on similarly sensitive topics like extremism or online hate. At Bloomberg, the story was quashed outright by an editor known for public support of DEI initiatives. The editorial decisions were ostensibly justified as routine discretion, yet they align conspicuously with the ideological leanings of those involved. Are these major outlets succumbing to pressures to protect certain narratives at the expense of truth?
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Lalli IsoTalo on 12.03.2025, 10:47:11
Tämän tutkimuksen mukaan vapaa ja vauras yhteiskunta maksimoi naisten syyllisyyden, häpeän ja epäitsekkyyden. Lännessä yhä annetaan enemmän valtaa itseään inhoavalle ja epäitsekkäälle väestöryhmälle.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/17456916231202685

Quote from: https://x.com/williameijer/status/1899586001481461809William Meijer @williameijer

The main explanation for this phenomenon is likely gene-environment correlation. rGE in 4 steps:

1. Genetic predispositions can be more fully expressed when environmental constraints are removed.

2. Different innate tendencies lead to creating and selecting different environments.

3. These environmental creations and choices then reinforce initial differences.

4. This creates feedback loops that amplify smaller initial differences.

- The only thing worse than pain is meaningless pain. Wokism gave meaning to women's psychological pain. "I feel guilt, sadness, shame, and anxiety because of the racist and patriarchal society I live in."

- This insight comes from a recent systematic review on the Gender Equality Paradox. It summarizes 27 meta-analyses and large-scale studies as well as 54 other studies.

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Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Caucasian on 12.03.2025, 17:24:22
Petteri Summaselle sanoisin, että casting vaiheessa tutkii hakijat vähän tarkemmin, niin ehkä välttää sen, että näyttelijät alkavat hyppimään silmille. Tuolla touhulla ei tule kuin vesitetty lopputulos.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Sakari on 12.03.2025, 20:06:02
Petteri Summanen case todistaa miten kaikki autoritääriset, ahdistavat, alistavat, orjuuttavat ideologiat paljastuvat valoon sillä ettei niiden kannattajat osaa nauraa itselleen. Eivätkä nämä sortavat ideologiat salli muidenkaan vitsailla kustannuksellaan. Siksi huumori on yksi parhaista aseista wokea, sosialismia, natsismia, stalinismia... jne. vastaan.

PS. Lisäys. Sama toimii henkilökohtaisessa elämässä, varokaa niitä jotka eivät osaa nauraa itselleen.
Title: Vs: Critical Social Justice / Woke-sekoilu
Post by: Golimar on 13.03.2025, 00:41:53

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– Helsingin yliopiston ylioppilaskunta (HYY) on kompuroinut epäonnisten kiinteistöhankkeiden kanssa. Nyt pankit painostavat HYY:tä myymään kohteet keskellä surkeaa suhdannetta. Se tarkoittaa, että ylioppilaskunta voi menettää kaikki varansa, kirjoittaa Helsingin Sanomat.

HS:n tietojen mukaan OP ja muut rahoittajapankit painostavat HYY:n omaisuutta hallinnoivaa Ylvaa myymään arvokkaita kiinteistöjä nopealla aikataululla. Jos Ylva ei saa kiinteistöistä kunnon hintaa, voi Ylva ja siten myös HYY menettää käytännössä koko omaisuutensa.

X

Kokoomusnuorten puheenjohtaja, HYY:n edustajiston jäsen Binga Tupamäki, kirjoittaa X:ssä, että "pitää vielä edustajiston jäsenenä täydentää, että siellä tosissaan pohditaan tässäkin taloustilanteessa 1) täysin vegaanisten ravintoloiden avaamista, vaikka ne eivät tekisi voittoa ja 2) pakotteiden asettamista Israelille (ei tosin mitään merkitystä)".

– Tärkeysjärjestys huikea, kuittaa Tupamäki.

X

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/vasemmistojohtoinen-hyy-tekee-miljoonatolkulla-turskaa-leikkimalla-kiinteistosijoittajaa/#8bf241c5 (https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/a/vasemmistojohtoinen-hyy-tekee-miljoonatolkulla-turskaa-leikkimalla-kiinteistosijoittajaa/#8bf241c5)

https://ylva.fi/blog/2020/02/05/ylvan-lyyrasta-suomalaisen-rakennusalan-inklusiivisuuden-kehityshanke/ (https://ylva.fi/blog/2020/02/05/ylvan-lyyrasta-suomalaisen-rakennusalan-inklusiivisuuden-kehityshanke/)

https://hyy.fi/app/uploads/2022/11/fin-ylvan-omistaja-strategia-2022-2026_edustajiston-hyvaksyma-13.10.2022.pdf (https://hyy.fi/app/uploads/2022/11/fin-ylvan-omistaja-strategia-2022-2026_edustajiston-hyvaksyma-13.10.2022.pdf)