Ask Svensken

[Lemmy]

Canada is best country to move.

With official multiculturalism? 

[Emo]

Canada is best country to move.

With official multiculturalism? 

With best ice-hockey, lots of snow and wilderness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness

Wilderness or wildland is a natural environment on Earth that has not been significantly modified by human activity. It may also be defined as: "The most intact, undisturbed wild natural areas left on our planet—those last truly wild places that humans do not control and have not developed with roads, pipelines or other industrial infrastructure."

[Pöllämystynyt]

Has there been talk about white flight and if so, what are the most preferred countries to move?

Among friend of course, but in the media there are only talks about the evil sweds moving away from what is perceived as "bad areas". It would really not look good to the general public if healthy, productive families left Sweden and this were shown on TV and in papers.

Countries being discussed are many and few. There are almost no western countries where not "Ne jyrää meitin". Some speak of northen Noway, Åland, Iceland others of warm countries like South america. But no one I know is serious in this discussions. We will probably go down with the ship. Friends, family and work binds us here.

Forget Norway! Norway is full of muslims and islam, also northern Norway. Canada is best country to move.

If you can hold you country from the abyss it will be quite a good prospect for fleeing sweds. How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

I'm quite certain that Finland remains a safe haven for Swedish people. There are bilingually and even some unilingually Swedish areas in Finland, that can fully support Swedish language and at least partially Swedish speaking environment for generations. Even at unilingually Finnish areas (most of the country) it is completely possible to raise bilingual, Swedish speaking children. Sweden very propably survives even if it has to go through horrible catastrophes like a civil war, but even if it doesnt, Finland will. So Swedish people are not going to die out, no matter what. They might get rare and they might partially assimilate to Swedish speaking Finns, but they are not going to disappear from the face of the earth. Also the climate, geography and culture in Finland is very close to those of original Sweden, so Swedes here are not even going to suffer great rootlesness (that could make them forget who they are).

Finland too may descent to chaos and destruction, but it will eventually survive and be rebuilt. Theoretically even Sweden-Proper might be liberated and rebuilt by the people and resources from the Swedish-speaking areas of Finland.

[AstaTTT]

^ I think we need people with commitment, perseverance and resilience. We already have a few good members of parliament and every individual, also at our Hommaforum, counts.

In a word, we need sisu. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu

[foobar]

How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

No, we are definitely not winning. The situation is not desperate yet, but there is still a long way to go in order to gain the necessary poltitical influence in order to stem the immigration. It might be that Finland also decends into chaos before a sane political agenda is in place.

Some 80% of the political arena is dominated by the multi-culti parties. They too have some random voices against immigration but the party leaders are all pro immigration and that pretty much sets the political agenda.
Therefore, we have a steep up-hill battle and personally I'm not convinced that Finland can be saved before it is too late.

However, there might be one painfull way out and that is economic bankrupcy. If the finnish economi keeps deteriorating, we might end up in a situation where even the multi-culti parties has to close the borders in order to save money. Presently it is estimated that the direct cost of immgration is some 1 billion eur yearly (ung. 10 miljarder SEK). Exact figures are hard to come by since the past few governments has tried to hide all statistics by not collecting any data.

Real issue in economy of Finnish society is what politicians call merrily a "sustainability deficit." Public sector expenses have grown while (mostly) private sector tax paying capacity has shrunk. Now state budget demands 7 billion euros of new loan every year, and seemingly there's no real change coming in the near future. Almost all communes have unbalanced budget, with growing debt (often cleverly hidden, but still there). This includes Helsinki, despite all its' natural attractiveness for business. If drastic cuts or tax hikes are not put into use, amount of loan rises so quickly that Finnish public economy loses its' loan ratings in coming five years, and when that happens, ratings tend to get worse very quickly.

Immigration alone doesn't cause this. Rather, unwise immigration is part of a larger problem that politicians don't want to recognize to be a problem at all. The problem is oversized and under-productive public sector - an apparatus built by every power-wielding party at a time, giving them some interest group benefits from taxpayer money through increased inefficiency. Poorly integrating immigrants are just another way to increase these flows of money - and it works both for parties on the left and the "right."

Nobody wants to be the first to cut spending, and nobody wants to make fellow politicians and interest groups angry by getting at it. Even Perussuomalaiset tends to be pretty quiet about the need for big restructuring. The obvious need for it is there, no matter how one tries to avoid looking at it. Current government has an escapist attitude to the issue at hand, trusting that optimism and wide smile saves us from need of making sacrifices. Cuts to be made are troubling, but it's even more troubling to see that no politician wants to defuse this bomb before it's too late.

All in all, I'd expect Finnish public economy to end in turmoil in next 2-6 years. This does not result from immigration, but immigration contributes on its' own part to it. If corrective measures are performed just at the right time, this turmoil may turn into recovery, and may clean up welfare bloat - including lax immigration policies - from the society. It remains to be seen how things go. Personally, I'm not very much of an optimist in this regard.

[Svensken]

How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

No, we are definitely not winning. The situation is not desperate yet, but there is still a long way to go in order to gain the necessary poltitical influence in order to stem the immigration. It might be that Finland also decends into chaos before a sane political agenda is in place.

Some 80% of the political arena is dominated by the multi-culti parties. They too have some random voices against immigration but the party leaders are all pro immigration and that pretty much sets the political agenda.
Therefore, we have a steep up-hill battle and personally I'm not convinced that Finland can be saved before it is too late.

However, there might be one painfull way out and that is economic bankrupcy. If the finnish economi keeps deteriorating, we might end up in a situation where even the multi-culti parties has to close the borders in order to save money. Presently it is estimated that the direct cost of immgration is some 1 billion eur yearly (ung. 10 miljarder SEK). Exact figures are hard to come by since the past few governments has tried to hide all statistics by not collecting any data.

I think Sweden could be a very strong and useful weapon for you in your struggle. Even if your economy would crash you can still rebuild if you have a people, a nation. This is what I mean with the situation in Sweden. There would be no problem of having a struggle during my life time that would not look sure to win if I knew there were still time. The notion that my children or other people that's younger could take over the struggle.

Now the situation looks like the story of Sweden will end during my life time. It will shift into a crazy gangland where control of drugs, whores and business will be the future. It will not be a situation I would consider worthy of my self or my children. There will not be any struggle for making things better and more beautiful. There will only be constant gang-wars. 

[Svensken]

Has there been talk about white flight and if so, what are the most preferred countries to move?

Among friend of course, but in the media there are only talks about the evil sweds moving away from what is perceived as "bad areas". It would really not look good to the general public if healthy, productive families left Sweden and this were shown on TV and in papers.

Countries being discussed are many and few. There are almost no western countries where not "Ne jyrää meitin". Some speak of northen Noway, Åland, Iceland others of warm countries like South america. But no one I know is serious in this discussions. We will probably go down with the ship. Friends, family and work binds us here.

Forget Norway! Norway is full of muslims and islam, also northern Norway. Canada is best country to move.

If you can hold you country from the abyss it will be quite a good prospect for fleeing sweds. How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

I'm quite certain that Finland remains a safe haven for Swedish people. There are bilingually and even some unilingually Swedish areas in Finland, that can fully support Swedish language and at least partially Swedish speaking environment for generations. Even at unilingually Finnish areas (most of the country) it is completely possible to raise bilingual, Swedish speaking children. Sweden very propably survives even if it has to go through horrible catastrophes like a civil war, but even if it doesnt, Finland will. So Swedish people are not going to die out, no matter what. They might get rare and they might partially assimilate to Swedish speaking Finns, but they are not going to disappear from the face of the earth. Also the climate, geography and culture in Finland is very close to those of original Sweden, so Swedes here are not even going to suffer great rootlesness (that could make them forget who they are).

Finland too may descent to chaos and destruction, but it will eventually survive and be rebuilt. Theoretically even Sweden-Proper might be liberated and rebuilt by the people and resources from the Swedish-speaking areas of Finland.

Really nice to hear, I will bring the country up next time I discuss white flight with my friends.

[Pöllämystynyt]

How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

No, we are definitely not winning. The situation is not desperate yet, but there is still a long way to go in order to gain the necessary poltitical influence in order to stem the immigration. It might be that Finland also decends into chaos before a sane political agenda is in place.

We are definitely winning in a way or another. If elite succeeds to push Finland into hell on earth, then it will, but eventually Finland and its indigenous people will survive. Multiculturalists in Finland are hopelessy too late in their ethnocidal activities. If the fall of society and economy is going to happen, it will come a way too soon for a situation to emerge in which indigenous people find themselves at a battlefield outnumbered, outsupplied and outmoraled in the face of pseudo-leftist fascists and religious fanatics. The society and economy can last for years only in a situation, in which multiculturalism is finished. In this economic and mental situation it is the only possibility to keep up the society. So it is not possible to keep up a society that commits current politics of ethnocide until Finns are too weak to save themselves.

So Finns will certainly survive. The question is, how: through hell on earth, or by rebuilding democratic an lawful society before it completely collapses under multiculturalism. We are gathered here to talk about making it happen in a democratic way. Losing the democratic option would be a horrible humanitarian disaster, but it would not be the end.

In Sweden the situation is unfortunately worse, because when the Swedish society and economy falls, the people defending humanity and freedom are closer to become outnumbered, and their moral and integrity is already more damaged. I still think that Sweden and its people will very propably survive (even after the destruction), but others who do the math differently might disagree. Remnants of Swedish people will survive at least in Finland.

[Spesialisti]

It is unfortunate, but to me the only change for Swedes to open their eyes is war. A big and profound one, where every family tastes famine and loss of best sons. Hate and blood is the only fuel of resistance. Swedes still have hope as long as the army & police is under rule of the Swedes. One scenario is the divide to North and South Sweden. The immigrant population is formed out from many ethnic and religious groups, so no central intelligence is not expected to appear to present them all. The south will plunge into anarchy and chaos overtime.

It just takes one CAT 5 depression and collapse of EU to trigger on this down spiral unrest. Finns have nickname "the magic wall" for the ATM machines when welfare money is withdrawn. Money coming out of nowhere with no payback need. ATM's are actually the peace keepers of the West. Once those run dry we are in trouble and on our reserves. Immigrants don't have any so they are after ours and they'll use any means to get their share.           

[Snuiva]

Has there been talk about white flight and if so, what are the most preferred countries to move?

Among friend of course, but in the media there are only talks about the evil sweds moving away from what is perceived as "bad areas". It would really not look good to the general public if healthy, productive families left Sweden and this were shown on TV and in papers.

Countries being discussed are many and few. There are almost no western countries where not "Ne jyrää meitin". Some speak of northen Noway, Åland, Iceland others of warm countries like South america. But no one I know is serious in this discussions. We will probably go down with the ship. Friends, family and work binds us here.

Forget Norway! Norway is full of muslims and islam, also northern Norway. Canada is best country to move.

If you can hold you country from the abyss it will be quite a good prospect for fleeing sweds. How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

I'm quite certain that Finland remains a safe haven for Swedish people. There are bilingually and even some unilingually Swedish areas in Finland, that can fully support Swedish language and at least partially Swedish speaking environment for generations. Even at unilingually Finnish areas (most of the country) it is completely possible to raise bilingual, Swedish speaking children. Sweden very propably survives even if it has to go through horrible catastrophes like a civil war, but even if it doesnt, Finland will. So Swedish people are not going to die out, no matter what. They might get rare and they might partially assimilate to Swedish speaking Finns, but they are not going to disappear from the face of the earth. Also the climate, geography and culture in Finland is very close to those of original Sweden, so Swedes here are not even going to suffer great rootlesness (that could make them forget who they are).

Finland too may descent to chaos and destruction, but it will eventually survive and be rebuilt. Theoretically even Sweden-Proper might be liberated and rebuilt by the people and resources from the Swedish-speaking areas of Finland.

Really nice to hear, I will bring the country up next time I discuss white flight with my friends.

If some of you decide to come here do not bring your insane political climate with you. You can not be neutral anymore. Adapt or leave.

[Svensken]

It is unfortunate, but to me the only change for Swedes to open their eyes is war. A big and profound one, where every family tastes famine and loss of best sons. Hate and blood is the only fuel of resistance. Swedes still have hope as long as the army & police is under rule of the Swedes. One scenario is the divide to North and South Sweden. The immigrant population is formed out from many ethnic and religious groups, so no central intelligence is not expected to appear to present them all. The south will plunge into anarchy and chaos overtime.

It just takes one CAT 5 depression and collapse of EU to trigger on this down spiral unrest. Finns have nickname "the magic wall" for the ATM machines when welfare money is withdrawn. Money coming out of nowhere with no payback need. ATM's are actually the peace keepers of the West. Once those run dry we are in trouble and on our reserves. Immigrants don't have any so they are after ours and they'll use any means to get their share.         

As you say, as long as the army and police is in the hands of the sweds... they are of course trying to change this and it is changing. They have al ready recruited very many immigrants to the police and they have special programs for continue it. The military is really a joke, there is no defence but those who are active are mainly sweds, still. The army is though changing to in accordance with programs of their own. I am not trying to be negative, but the situation in Sweden is really, really bad. The best things with all my predictions are that they will soon be proven right or wrong. My doom and gloom will be proven or disproved during your life time.

Use Sweden as the example if how NOT to do things.

[Svensken]

Snuiva:
Please throw all crazy sweds out if they would try to come. All crazy people can then have Sweden and live in harmony with the gangsters and murderers.

I actually think all finns who loves multiculturalism should move to Sweden also. Simply tell them, "Go to Sweden if you like multiculturalism!", "Why make Finland to a Sweden tomorrow when you can move to Sweden today!"

[Marko M]

Svensken , here is a documentary which should be of interest to you and other patriotic swedes.

http://www.haaretz.com/culture/arts-leisure/israeli-outsider-turns-camera-on-europe-s-muslim-outsiders-1.464430
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbPmSDnvCL4
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llFe81PtLew
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6rYFq4_q54
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dwc40RtpDc

[alussaolisana]

It is unfortunate, but to me the only change for Swedes to open their eyes is war. A big and profound one, where every family tastes famine and loss of best sons. Hate and blood is the only fuel of resistance. Swedes still have hope as long as the army & police is under rule of the Swedes. One scenario is the divide to North and South Sweden. The immigrant population is formed out from many ethnic and religious groups, so no central intelligence is not expected to appear to present them all. The south will plunge into anarchy and chaos overtime.

It just takes one CAT 5 depression and collapse of EU to trigger on this down spiral unrest. Finns have nickname "the magic wall" for the ATM machines when welfare money is withdrawn. Money coming out of nowhere with no payback need. ATM's are actually the peace keepers of the West. Once those run dry we are in trouble and on our reserves. Immigrants don't have any so they are after ours and they'll use any means to get their share.         

I also think that there will be a war. Vikings of course will win on their home ground. Simple as that. It just will be the end of democracy for a long time. There will also be finnish military or lots of equipped volunteers present. Of course because this will be the big eye opener in Finland.

[Snuiva]

Snuiva:
Please throw all crazy sweds out if they would try to come. All crazy people can then have Sweden and live in harmony with the gangsters and murderers.

When shit hits the fan, first to leave are those who let things turn to shit.

I actually think all finns who loves multiculturalism should move to Sweden also. Simply tell them, "Go to Sweden if you like multiculturalism!", "Why make Finland to a Sweden tomorrow when you can move to Sweden today!"

Excellent idea, unfortunately they seem to be quite attached their high paying jobs promoting multicultulturalism.

[Svensken]

It is unfortunate, but to me the only change for Swedes to open their eyes is war. A big and profound one, where every family tastes famine and loss of best sons. Hate and blood is the only fuel of resistance. Swedes still have hope as long as the army & police is under rule of the Swedes. One scenario is the divide to North and South Sweden. The immigrant population is formed out from many ethnic and religious groups, so no central intelligence is not expected to appear to present them all. The south will plunge into anarchy and chaos overtime.

It just takes one CAT 5 depression and collapse of EU to trigger on this down spiral unrest. Finns have nickname "the magic wall" for the ATM machines when welfare money is withdrawn. Money coming out of nowhere with no payback need. ATM's are actually the peace keepers of the West. Once those run dry we are in trouble and on our reserves. Immigrants don't have any so they are after ours and they'll use any means to get their share.         

I also think that there will be a war. Vikings of course will win on their home ground. Simple as that. It just will be the end of democracy for a long time. There will also be finnish military or lots of equipped volunteers present. Of course because this will be the big eye opener in Finland.

There will be no war. There will only be an gradual degeneration of the society.
Sweden will go away with sigh not with a bang.

[Marko M]

It is unfortunate, but to me the only change for Swedes to open their eyes is war. A big and profound one, where every family tastes famine and loss of best sons. Hate and blood is the only fuel of resistance. Swedes still have hope as long as the army & police is under rule of the Swedes. One scenario is the divide to North and South Sweden. The immigrant population is formed out from many ethnic and religious groups, so no central intelligence is not expected to appear to present them all. The south will plunge into anarchy and chaos overtime.

It just takes one CAT 5 depression and collapse of EU to trigger on this down spiral unrest. Finns have nickname "the magic wall" for the ATM machines when welfare money is withdrawn. Money coming out of nowhere with no payback need. ATM's are actually the peace keepers of the West. Once those run dry we are in trouble and on our reserves. Immigrants don't have any so they are after ours and they'll use any means to get their share.         

I also think that there will be a war. Vikings of course will win on their home ground. Simple as that. It just will be the end of democracy for a long time. There will also be finnish military or lots of equipped volunteers present. Of course because this will be the big eye opener in Finland.

There will be no war. There will only be an gradual degeneration of the society.
Sweden will go away with sigh not with a bang.

I disagree , war in Sweden is an inevitable consequence of balkanisation , it may take 30 or 100 years but it will come.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanization

[Svensken]

It is unfortunate, but to me the only change for Swedes to open their eyes is war. A big and profound one, where every family tastes famine and loss of best sons. Hate and blood is the only fuel of resistance. Swedes still have hope as long as the army & police is under rule of the Swedes. One scenario is the divide to North and South Sweden. The immigrant population is formed out from many ethnic and religious groups, so no central intelligence is not expected to appear to present them all. The south will plunge into anarchy and chaos overtime.

It just takes one CAT 5 depression and collapse of EU to trigger on this down spiral unrest. Finns have nickname "the magic wall" for the ATM machines when welfare money is withdrawn. Money coming out of nowhere with no payback need. ATM's are actually the peace keepers of the West. Once those run dry we are in trouble and on our reserves. Immigrants don't have any so they are after ours and they'll use any means to get their share.         

I also think that there will be a war. Vikings of course will win on their home ground. Simple as that. It just will be the end of democracy for a long time. There will also be finnish military or lots of equipped volunteers present. Of course because this will be the big eye opener in Finland.

There will be no war. There will only be an gradual degeneration of the society.
Sweden will go away with sigh not with a bang.

I disagree , war in Sweden is an inevitable consequence of balkanisation , it may take 30 or 100 years but it will come.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkanization

What I mean is that I don't see the Sweds taking to arms in the near future. Maybe the different groups will have vendetta, but I was talking a major ethnic conflict with the sweds as aggressors.

[AstaTTT]

^ I cannot fathom the Swedes being aggressors. What might happen is that enough Swedes encounter the new reality and decide that enough is enough. They start coming together, talking together, spreading their ideas together.

For my part, I woke up when I learnt that humanitarian refugees/immigrants have much better social benefits than Finns do. A Finn in need is less important than an immigrant in need. I just cannot close my eyes to injustice. And I don't want to.

I think there will be more people like us, ordinary people, who realize that something went wrong and want to change the prevailing situation by simply stating that positive discrimination is against democracy, and standing our ground for as long as it takes. This is not only about us but also about the future generations. Multiculturalism offers violence, rapes, gangs and general lack of values. I could not die peacefully if I let that happen without saying a word.

[Svensken]

Svensken , here is a documentary which should be of interest to you and other patriotic swedes.

http://www.haaretz.com/culture/arts-leisure/israeli-outsider-turns-camera-on-europe-s-muslim-outsiders-1.464430
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbPmSDnvCL4
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llFe81PtLew
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6rYFq4_q54
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dwc40RtpDc

Thanks for the advice, I will watch them in due of time

[Svensken]

^ I cannot fathom the Swedes being aggressors. What might happen is that enough Swedes encounter the new reality and decide that enough is enough. They start coming together, talking together, spreading their ideas together.

For my part, I woke up when I learnt that humanitarian refugees/immigrants have much better social benefits than Finns do. A Finn in need is less important than an immigrant in need. I just cannot close my eyes to injustice. And I don't want to.

I think there will be more people like us, ordinary people, who realize that something went wrong and want to change the prevailing situation by simply stating that positive discrimination is against democracy, and standing our ground for as long as it takes. This is not only about us but also about the future generations. Multiculturalism offers violence, rapes, gangs and general lack of values. I could not die peacefully if I let that happen without saying a word.

I don't think the sweds will fight, they will complain yes, vote for SD maybe(but this is very radical). We have almost no army, a very blended police.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

The Swedes won't be the aggressors. But the day will come when they have to react to the aggressors aggressing against them. And there will be a time when the choice must be made: either to live or die. The question is not about aggression but self defence and every living organism has the will to live. Choosing the life is not an act of aggression: it is an act of love. And the Swedes must choose love and life. That means defending themselves against the aggressor, the Gansterculture. And that'll mean war. The war of love. Because by war you can fight for either hate or love. And a war against terror and devolution is a war of love and humanity. We never wanted war, but since there are those who do, we have to fight for the pearl of human evolution, the western civilisation and it's fruits, freedom, democracy, freedom of speech and human rights. Because freedom just does not happen: it is created. And we Northern people are an important part of that creation.

[Ruckafella]

Hello again Svensken!

Can you reason me this? I have a Swedish colleague. One of the nicest people I can imagine btw. I can't say that this bothers me, perplexes perhaps, but he uses the word conservative as a general bad word. When discussing customers he might say that a particularly difficult one was soooo conservative when I can spot no sign of conservativeness at all. Just a grumpy, difficult or particularly demanding person.

Now, I'm not the most conservative of people, but I'd never use the word for name calling - especially when I can spot no conservative agenda. It seems rather absurd, like little kids calling each other homo without any idea what the word means. It must be bad though and one has to get insulted, since homo is a bad word because it's used for insults and so on..

(The truth be told, I might say the word liberal in a rather derogatory way when referring to the "new left". I don't think that's the kind of thing I'd say out loud in the office though.)

Is this kind of abuse/miss use of words and concepts common in Sweden? Other examples perhaps?

[Svensken]

The Swedes won't be the aggressors. But the day will come when they have to react to the aggressors aggressing against them. And there will be a time when the choice must be made: either to live or die. The question is not about aggression but self defence and every living organism has the will to live. Choosing the life is not an act of aggression: it is an act of love. And the Swedes must choose love and life. That means defending themselves against the aggressor, the Gansterculture. And that'll mean war. The war of love. Because by war you can fight for either hate or love. And a war against terror and devolution is a war of love and humanity. We never wanted war, but since there are those who do, we have to fight for the pearl of human evolution, the western civilisation and it's fruits, freedom, democracy, freedom of speech and human rights. Because freedom just does not happen: it is created. And we Northern people are an important part of that creation.

But you know the metaphor with "boiling a frog"?
I really think sweds will be like the frog, they will be more and more helpless and at the end be boiled alive. But of course we can hope for change and I will work for it as best as I can.

[alussaolisana]

The Sweds will not accept Sharia and that is why they will fight. And they will win. The war is not Sweds against immigrants, it will be muslims against everybody else. Just like Lebanon or Sudan except the result. This kind of shit will happen in many places and it will be ugly and bloody but we will win.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

The Swedes won't be the aggressors. But the day will come when they have to react to the aggressors aggressing against them. And there will be a time when the choice must be made: either to live or die. The question is not about aggression but self defence and every living organism has the will to live. Choosing the life is not an act of aggression: it is an act of love. And the Swedes must choose love and life. That means defending themselves against the aggressor, the Gansterculture. And that'll mean war. The war of love. Because by war you can fight for either hate or love. And a war against terror and devolution is a war of love and humanity. We never wanted war, but since there are those who do, we have to fight for the pearl of human evolution, the western civilisation and it's fruits, freedom, democracy, freedom of speech and human rights. Because freedom just does not happen: it is created. And we Northern people are an important part of that creation.

But you know the metaphor with "boiling a frog"?
I really think sweds will be like the frog, they will be more and more helpless and at the end be boiled alive. But of course we can hope for change and I will work for it as best as I can.

That metaphor is very familiar to me and I've been using it now and then in this forum and I think it has very deep wisdom in it.

Of course you may be right: it is a possibility. But I find it improbable that a whole ethnic group, eight million people, would just sit down and watch their own annihilation: there must be a moment when crowds realise that the only other alternative for acting now is to be wiped out of the face of the Earth.

But if the worst case scenario actualizes, I believe that many Swedes will seek refuge in Finland through the years. And we will happily let you be a part of our society because you are our brothers and sisters. And together we'll grow stronger. And one day we will banish the evil.

[Snuiva]

...
But I find it improbable that a whole ethnic group, eight million people, would just sit down and watch their own annihilation: there must be a moment when crowds realise that the only other alternative for acting now is to be wiped out of the face of the Earth.
...

Preschool brainwashing with gender neutral pedagogs and pacifism will not produce very good soldier material. Afterall they will face iSlamic jihadist. Those who can flee, flee and those who cannot will be shown as examples why we should do something for our own quislings.

[Svensken]

...
But I find it improbable that a whole ethnic group, eight million people, would just sit down and watch their own annihilation: there must be a moment when crowds realise that the only other alternative for acting now is to be wiped out of the face of the Earth.
...

Preschool brainwashing with gender neutral pedagogs and pacifism will not produce very good soldier material. Afterall they will face iSlamic jihadist. Those who can flee, flee and those who cannot will be shown as examples why we should do something for our own quislings.

I agree, the swedish males of today are in very bad shape mentally and physically. If there would be a Jihad war there would come people from the whole world supporting the jihadists just like in Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. Time will tell and I am not trying to be negative but I frankly just don't see it happening.

If many of us flees to Finland I hope we can be of help to you and that you will accept us even if we did not succeed in saving our own homeland.   

[Eino P. Keravalta]

Svensken:

If many of us flees to Finland I hope we can be of help to you and that you will accept us even if we did not succeed in saving our own homeland.   

Together we are stronger. And those who flee are not going to submit but to seek cultural friends to fight back with massive force and will.

It is not your fault if your country collapses. It is a fault of those who let it happen today and you and your kind are not one of those people. If some of you flee to Finland, acceptance is not the question because we know that you are the good ones and we need you because in those days to come the world will be in fire and every good man and woman who stand for European values are needed in this battle against this global Gangsterworld.

It'll be the day when you need us and we need you.

[Svensken]

Svensken:

If many of us flees to Finland I hope we can be of help to you and that you will accept us even if we did not succeed in saving our own homeland.   

Together we are stronger. And those who flee are not going to submit but to seek cultural friends to fight back with massive force and will.

It is not your fault if your country collapses. It is a fault of those who let it happen today and you and your kind are not one of those people. If some of you flee to Finland, acceptance is not the question because we know that you are the good ones and we need you because in those days to come the world will be in fire and every good man and woman who stand for European values are needed in this battle against this global Gangsterworld.

It'll be the day when you need us and we need you.

This was very beautifully written, I get a bit emotional. You make me want to come to Finland, maybe in the future I will by free will, or maybe I will just have to because staying would mean servitude or death.