Ask Svensken

[nurkkakuntalainen]

Last, I, and many other sweds, have wondered for a long time. Is this man for real and has he an organisation?(I know this might be a bit rude to ask but I know doze of people in Sweden who have wondered about this man for a long time.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWZRHj-wO-s

The guy was maybe a village idiot.

Pekka Siitoin was an eccentric show man, self made actor, drunkard, occultist, writer and artist, who turned his own life into a non stop performance making fun of those who took him seriously enjoying all the attention he could get. For decades he played his nazi role with his village idiot friends. He used to walk around his home town wearing some kind of nazi gear. When he had a child, he attached a swastika flag on his baby's pram. He was on TV, he made many home videos about their drunken "nazi meetings", he published own books, for example "Musta magia - Svart magi" and he presented himself as the "Führer of Finland".

I might add that the finnish "nazi party" he supposedly was the leader of actually showed up in that video too. At the end of the clip you can see pretty much the entire party (3 people) in a meeting room on the boat to Sweden (or Tallinn perhaps). Not a particularely influential political movement. 

The KDP was not an actual, registered party. After the Continuation War, Finland was forced to ban fascist and racist organizations, and the ban is actually still existing. Siitoin's party would probably have been liquefied by the authorities if it was an official foundation.

By the way, some kind of far-leftists said a while ago that the True Finns party should also be abolished according to the ban.

[-PPT-]

I wonder if The Finns-party were only eurosceptic and not known for their criticism of immigration-policy, would the MSM bother to go to the lengths they have gone to discredit them at every turn. However, it must be admitted that as the party has grown so rapidly many of its representatives are very inexperient even at the local level politics not to mention national politics. That's why it is inevitable that some really embarassing people have becoming well-known in the media for their fooling around.

[Rändöm]

Hey Svensken! Nice to have you here and thanks for sharing your insights on the developments in Sweden.
I´m in a slight hurry and haven´t had time to read through the whole thread so if my question has already been asked and answered go ahead and skip it. I have inquired this very same thing from several other Swedes recently, but I would like to hear your opinion as well.

How do regular everyday Swedes feel about the political climate that is dominating their country? What about the absurd social engineering that is going on whether it be radical feminism, multiculturalism etc? Is it so that beneath the seemingly tolerant surface the majority of Swedes are boiling and embittered or is it possible that people really approve of what is happening in their country? If the majority indeed is unhappy with how things are run how is it possible that the status quo isn´t challenged more vigorously? I know how suffocating and controlling social democracy can be, but things are already getting so bad that you would think people would finally wake up in alarm and act with more energy!

Ahem, to put my above question(s) short: we know what the political elite´s agendas are, but how do the common people truly feel deep down in their hearts?

[Marko M]

Finnish Nazi Party was just a bad joke but stupid leftists don't have any sense of humor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETx-nbR7iNo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPfyg84I9U

[Roope]

I think those "ten Myths" and their "debunking" has been laughed at here in a thread or two. I don't recall if we ever addressed Ullenhagen's debunkings, but some Finnish greenleft site had published the same, and I think they got it 6-0.... can't seem to find it now.

2011-11-30 Ruotsin hallitus ja 13 myyttiä maahanmuutosta

[Spesialisti]

It was just in Helsingin Sanomat news that Syrians are invading Södertälje. 45% of inhabitants are foreign-based. Can Södertälje provide future for these thousands of people - jobs, education, social services..? Insane Swedish immigration laws allow "new swedes" to settle where they want to with no limitation or policy of immigrant distribution inside the country.

[Svensken]

<snip> the demographic situation and that is something you can make a quite ok estimation about the future. And by this information Sweden is so fast transforming and the clear majority of sweds are extremely brainwashed and the media and schools will make this stay for another 15-30 years which is what is demanded for total change of the country.

This. Trend extrapolation works unless something changes. What does it take for the demographic trends (3rd world immigration in particular) to change in Sweden? Whatever it is, the powers that be obviously want the current trends to go on. And if they do go on, extrapolation results are valid: total change of the country.

Someone's generally got to be the canary in the coalmine. Hopefullly our society really will learn from the mistakes made by others. What Svensken is doing by coming here will help. Svensken, välkommen och tack för vad du har skrivit!

For the trend to change: 1. Immigration would have to stop, 2. Immigrant thats here would have to go back and 3. Sweds got to get more children. Even if the immigration would stop today and stay stopped there would still happen a demographic change. Because of the huge segregation all immigrants born here would not just "become sweds". Immigrant would only go home if there were enough incentives and I think this would have to be a collapse of the welfare system and increased antagonism in Sweden. Sweds are today very influenced by the notion of "doing career" and "live your life to the fullest". In this notion there is little or any place for children. Maybe one, or maybe two but very seldom more than that. Immigrants more have the notion of "living while young and then get a family with many children 3+".

Thanks for the nice words, I really hope this will make you more motivated to change your country. Your have not yet been overrun by immigrants and PS got almost 20% in the parliament- and commune-election. Even if you dont like politics, join a party that lies close to you and work as much as you can to gain more influence. I promise you, if Finland would turn into a Sweden you will hate your self for not having tried.

[Svensken]

Finnish Nazi Party was just a bad joke but stupid leftists don't have any sense of humor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETx-nbR7iNo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfPfyg84I9U

Looks like a drunk finnish joke gone to far...
Its really nice to get the knowledge about this man on the "Finlandsfärja".
A vizard of black magic, an actor, führer of Finland and totally crazy. I wonder what his children thinks of it all today...

[AstaTTT]

^^ Hear, hear! 

Dear forum members, please sign and spread the law initiative to stop giving cash to refugees (their needs are met with food, shelter, medical care, language training, etc., but not with cash which is one of the main reasons the "asylum shoppers" are drawn to Finland):

https://www.kansalaisaloite.fi/fi/aloite/42

[Lemmy]

2011-11-30 Ruotsin hallitus ja 13 myyttiä maahanmuutosta

Aaah, no wonder, too many arguments 

So, Svensken, if you dare to googletrate that to English (or Swedish) it might give some insight of the "hompanzees"... usually translation from Finnish doesn't make the eyes bleed.

[Emo]

^ http://www.regeringen.se/sb/d/2279/a/181576

It's already there på svenska.

Yes, nazifuhrer Pekka Siitoin is not real fuhrer, but prime minister Fredrik Reinfeldt is real 

[Svensken]

It was just in Helsingin Sanomat news that Syrians are invading Södertälje. 45% of inhabitants are foreign-based. Can Södertälje provide future for these thousands of people - jobs, education, social services..? Insane Swedish immigration laws allow "new swedes" to settle where they want to with no limitation or policy of immigrant distribution inside the country.

Södertälje took in more Iraqis than the whole of USA and Canada together. No, there is chaos in Södertälje. The commune is publicly known to be semi-controlled by the syrian maffia. Our police chief stated this on SVT some years ago. She said that the "police no longer control the commune and we need help that's not available."

[Svensken]

Hey Svensken! Nice to have you here and thanks for sharing your insights on the developments in Sweden.
I´m in a slight hurry and haven´t had time to read through the whole thread so if my question has already been asked and answered go ahead and skip it. I have inquired this very same thing from several other Swedes recently, but I would like to hear your opinion as well.

How do regular everyday Swedes feel about the political climate that is dominating their country? What about the absurd social engineering that is going on whether it be radical feminism, multiculturalism etc? Is it so that beneath the seemingly tolerant surface the majority of Swedes are boiling and embittered or is it possible that people really approve of what is happening in their country? If the majority indeed is unhappy with how things are run how is it possible that the status quo isn´t challenged more vigorously? I know how suffocating and controlling social democracy can be, but things are already getting so bad that you would think people would finally wake up in alarm and act with more energy!

Ahem, to put my above question(s) short: we know what the political elite´s agendas are, but how do the common people truly feel deep down in their hearts?

Regular sweds feel different things of course but most of us, even if we love the new Sweden or not feel that there is huge tension and polarisation. There is very hard for people of different opinions in this matter to talk without it going out of hand. Sweds in general don't like "dålig stämning"(Bad vibes) that can come from any kind of conflict or argument but these questions make most sweds very uncomfortable.

As I told you in a long answer earlier on this page the SAP(Social Democrats) had enormous power and they pushed for all these things during their reign. All the good will and all the trust that they had build up in people were used to make them accept these sick changes of society. We all wanted to believe that they were telling us the truth. Otherwise the whole society would be a gigantic deceiving and sinister machine, not many (or even my self) wanted to think this could be the case.

The older generation that are soon going into retirement are quite comfortable with the situation. Many of them are old 68-people wanting to push for all kinds of lunatic things. Even if they never got Maoism the got sexual revolutions, radical feminism and multiculturalism. Many of these will die before the society they created will crumble for real and while they are alive they will happily by immigrants for cleaning, repairing and going to exotic restaurants. These are to rich and not caring to be bothered by group rapes, killings, burning etc.

The younger people are more angry and frustrated. Many lack jobs even though they have big student loans that they took with the illusion of the al mighty Swedish state being strong and good forever. These have also been beaten, raped and seen how immigrants take their jobs by getting 80% of their salaries paid by the state(search for "Nystartsjobb"). These people now days turn to the alternative media like Avpixlat, Fria tider or even more radical ones. Many people also discuss on flashback and try  to comment on news paper etc. Most of the media in sweden have now banned commentator function on their pages because of the notorious "Net-hate". This is something that is discuss much on TV and Radio, how to halt the "Net-hate" and how to fight "the evil white men who are behind it".

Sweden is today a deeply sick society, it's a ship that is sinking down in the cold darkness. As I said before, even if I and many with me will try to help the situation there is very little hope.

[Miniluv]

"Ne jyrää meitin". This is a well-known quote from the novel Tuntematon sotilas (The Unknown Soldier). It is a shout from a soldier in near panic "They (the Russians) are going to run over us with tanks".  I think taking part in the Second World War gave Finns a reminder - still living in national consciousness - that losing ones country is an actual possibility.

Do you feel the long period of peace Sweden has experienced has played any part in the multicultural madness you have going on?

[Tuju]

Based on your discussions with other sane swedes, it would be interesting to know what do you think:

a) Could native population loose its political majority for immigrants?
b) If so, when do you think that could happen?
c) Has there been any extremist demands to change Sweden society and what kind of changes those would be (minarets,mosques, sharia)?

[Svensken]

"Ne jyrää meitin". This is a well-known quote from the novel Tuntematon sotilas (The Unknown Soldier). It is a shout from a soldier in near panic "They (the Russians) are going to run over us with tanks".  I think taking part in the Second World War gave Finns a reminder - still living in national consciousness - that losing ones country is an actual possibility.

Do you feel the long period of peace Sweden has experienced has played any part in the multicultural madness you have going on?

I think the long time of peace and the Social Democrat propaganda have made many people incapable of seeing, understanding and acting against problems. Today it's even broadly discussed that "problems" mostly has to do with your attitude towards them. So if you don't perceive them as problems they will go away.

Sweds are in general very detached from life. Hardship, death and horrible things are not something talked about or handled in the general public. So you seems very much like a annoying person that creates "Dålig stämning" is you talk about real problems with the sweds.

[Svensken]

Based on your discussions with other sane swedes, it would be interesting to know what do you think:

a) Could native population loose its political majority for immigrants?
b) If so, when do you think that could happen?
c) Has there been any extremist demands to change Sweden society and what kind of changes those would be (minarets,mosques, sharia)?

a) Absolutly, SCB(State statistics) tell us we will be 10.000 000 around 2018(http://www.scb.se/Pages/Article____341158.aspx)
I would say around 5-6 million of these will be sweds.

b) If the current trend continuous there will surely be a shift around 2025. This is though predictions, but they are very probable. There are three elections until then and the likeliness that all the sweds would turn to SD is very low because of what I described about indoctrination and brainwashing.

c) Mosques are being constructed all the time, many churches are actually converted in to mosques. There has been claims to start sharia courts like the ones they have in britain. Minarets are now having the right to call to pray, but not five times a day. 

[Tuju]

Has there been talk about white flight and if so, what are the most preferred countries to move?

[Svensken]

Has there been talk about white flight and if so, what are the most preferred countries to move?

Among friend of course, but in the media there are only talks about the evil sweds moving away from what is perceived as "bad areas". It would really not look good to the general public if healthy, productive families left Sweden and this were shown on TV and in papers.

Countries being discussed are many and few. There are almost no western countries where not "Ne jyrää meitin". Some speak of northen Noway, Åland, Iceland others of warm countries like South america. But no one I know is serious in this discussions. We will probably go down with the ship. Friends, family and work binds us here.

[siviilitarkkailija]

Are you looking for new king Gustav Vasa. Man who liberated and turned Sweden into power and naturally acted as bully monster to those who opposed him...

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholms_blodbad

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Vasa

That is to say if history is to repeat itself, Swedish people will rise, but not after huge loss of life.

[Pöllämystynyt]

I haven't read everything, so excuse me if you already talked about this.

What do you think is basically so wrong with Sweden, to make it capable of one if not the most irrational, horrible and self-hating form of multiculturalistic fascism?  What do you think is the most deep problem behind all these symptoms of Swedish self-racism and even genocidal attitude against its own native people and culture? Is it as Miniluv suggests, that Sweden enjoyed so long peace time that they forgot and denied some basic realities of life?

Is the disaster of Sweden also related with the fact that Sweden is linquistically germanic country, and therefore vulnerable to misuse of nazi-card to make Swedes shame and hate themselves?

And what is the role of Swedish Democrats? Why have they failed so completely in their resistance, that after so many years of suffering under oppression and invasion, Swedish people still give it so little support? Might this all be because SD and all the resistance of multiculturalism in Sweden was heavily stigmatised by nazi-card from the beginning, and did not understand to defend itself from it? Might Sverige Democrats inability to defend itself from nazi-card be the main reason for the disaster of Sweden? You know, the power of nazi card is horrible, and its stinky touch could theoretically marginalise entire political movements.

Unlike in Sweden, in Finland multiculturalism started later, and from the beginning anti-multiculturalism was not monopolised by "far right" but by exeptionally wide political spectrum of people. This made it very hard for multiculturalist hate mongers to demonise critics of multiculturalism as "far right" and such. This movement just cant be succesfully demonised as "far right" while its not at political right at all! Sure they have tried. All the time mass medias bombard critics with these names like "far right", but as long as critics haven't gave up and started acting like such and calling itself such, those bad names have not completely infected and crippled them.

[Nationalisti]

Varför är ni svenskar så mesiga? Hur kan ni ha låtit det gå så långt?

And what is the role of Swedish Democrats? Why have they failed so completely in their resistance, that after so many years of suffering under oppression and invasion, Swedish people still give it so little support?

Because they're a bunch of cowards, constantly apologizing and sucking up.

[Emo]

Has there been talk about white flight and if so, what are the most preferred countries to move?

Among friend of course, but in the media there are only talks about the evil sweds moving away from what is perceived as "bad areas". It would really not look good to the general public if healthy, productive families left Sweden and this were shown on TV and in papers.

Countries being discussed are many and few. There are almost no western countries where not "Ne jyrää meitin". Some speak of northen Noway, Åland, Iceland others of warm countries like South america. But no one I know is serious in this discussions. We will probably go down with the ship. Friends, family and work binds us here.

Forget Norway! Norway is full of muslims and islam, also northern Norway. Canada is best country to move.

[Svensken]

Varför är ni svenskar så mesiga? Hur kan ni ha låtit det gå så långt?

And what is the role of Swedish Democrats? Why have they failed so completely in their resistance, that after so many years of suffering under oppression and invasion, Swedish people still give it so little support?

Because they're a bunch of cowards, constantly apologizing and sucking up.

The last 60 years this coward is what has been promoting by the all ruling Party. Instead of creating a strong and safe society through strong and brave people the Party choose to focus on creating a weak and coward one. If all were weak and cowardly no one would think or dear hurting another. This works really well of course together with the idea of importing people from the most brutal cultures on earth. Everything turns very safe and harmonious then.

I think you are sadly quite right. The character of the swed is now days a coward and a weak person who think many times before he questions the authority. Sweds are extremely unused to violence and conflict but many of us we are learning now, in the hard way.

[Svensken]

Has there been talk about white flight and if so, what are the most preferred countries to move?

Among friend of course, but in the media there are only talks about the evil sweds moving away from what is perceived as "bad areas". It would really not look good to the general public if healthy, productive families left Sweden and this were shown on TV and in papers.

Countries being discussed are many and few. There are almost no western countries where not "Ne jyrää meitin". Some speak of northen Noway, Åland, Iceland others of warm countries like South america. But no one I know is serious in this discussions. We will probably go down with the ship. Friends, family and work binds us here.

Forget Norway! Norway is full of muslims and islam, also northern Norway. Canada is best country to move.

If you can hold you country from the abyss it will be quite a good prospect for fleeing sweds. How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

[Emo]

Svensken, do you have any/many friends who think about multiculture same way you think? Do you have any forum like this Homma where you can discuss together?

[Emo]

If you can hold you country from the abyss it will be quite a good prospect for fleeing sweds. How is the notion by you people in this forum, are you winning?

We often forget it is very easy also for swedish muslims to move to Finland. They just have to walk over the state border and that is all.

[Pöllämystynyt]

Varför är ni svenskar så mesiga? Hur kan ni ha låtit det gå så långt?

And what is the role of Swedish Democrats? Why have they failed so completely in their resistance, that after so many years of suffering under oppression and invasion, Swedish people still give it so little support?

Because they're a bunch of cowards, constantly apologizing and sucking up.

Luckily you represent a minority view amonst the Finnish critics of multiculturalism (if you actually are serious, which I somewhat doubt). Swedish democrats have already scared Swedish majority to the opposite side, forcing them to support a horrible multicultural invasion against their own identity, people and culture. More "radical" or more "right wing" SD would have scared Swedish people a lot further to the opposite side.

You (nationalisti) seem to be unaware of the power of reverse reaction or backlash (vastareaktio). (Unless if you completely know and utilise it to marginalise critics.) In modern western politics the backlash is often more powerful than the original move itself.

[Svensken]

Svensken, do you have any/many friends who think about multiculture same way you think? Do you have any forum like this Homma where you can discuss together?

Yes, I have other friends that think the same. https://www.flashback.org/ is the normal discussion forum

[Emo]

Svensken, do you have any/many friends who think about multiculture same way you think? Do you have any forum like this Homma where you can discuss together?

Yes, I have other friends that think the same. Flasback.org is the normal discussion forum

Are you voting for Sverigedemokraterna? I vote for PerusSuomalaiset-party (The Finns).


Parlament member Juho Eerola (the Finns) singing "äänestä siis perussuomalaista" means "vote for the Finns" 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WjaXjcVRoY