Ask Svensken

[siviilitarkkailija]

Actual point in list election

The key in Swedish bullshit elections is actually the order of names on the list. Bigger one is on party ladder, the smaller the number on ballot list one has. Meaning list election is ridden with party corruption and bullshit as within party system a politican must make to the top row on the list. No wonder the leftists and greens are all for list elections. If one must eradicate democracy from a society, list election is best way to do that.

normal finns reacting to the fact that Sweden is becoming a gansterland?

What do you mean is becoming? I think last straw was the murder of PM and whole police handling of the case. It left very little for imagining Sweden being anything but another (excuse the language) shitstan in west. Naturally socialist bullshitters cried their crocodile eyes off but hard reality was that in Sweden ministers are murdered, people are persecuted because of their political opinion and anyone daring to state a free opinion other than state provided one risks  consequenses including bodily harm.

Finland can't be a sanctuary to Swedish people who turn disillusioned with collapse of their State and society. Much as I'd like, there must be change within Sweden and Swedish people. Swedish societys equality is gone. Its democracy is gone and only people on earth who can change that are Swedish. But entertainment monarchy is likely to fight peoples right to political change with every indecent and dirty method in their disposal.

[alussaolisana]

if we perish

You will not perish.

However, there will be a war. A massive, long lasting war in Europe. It's a war between European values, European culture and European people against this "Gansterland". Days to come are tough. They are hard. There will be blood everywhere. But we will never give up or perish. Because we are many and because we represent humanity, democracy and human rights. The evil will perish. But it takes time. The times of near future are crucial. But the war has already begun. We must be ready to fight for humanity against the Beast. And we are. You will not perish.

Eino, that was like a closing scene from an old Hollywood Epic. The famous YOU WILL NOT PERISH -speech! Think if we would have a better actor to say it, like young Charlton Heston. And music. And sunset. Beautiful and inspiring! 

Otherwise I agree.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

Eino, that was like a closing scene from an old Hollywood Epic. The famous YOU WILL NOT PERISH -speech! Think if we would have a better actor to say it, like young Charlton Heston. And music. And sunset. Beautiful and inspiring! 

I have a dream, that you will not perish. Ask not what your country can do for you not to perish, ask what you can do to make your country not to perish.

[siviilitarkkailija]

Eino's the Man.

[foobar]

Can't PS just come up with a good compromise about the swedish language, showing that you all can benefit from having a new language-peace-deal?

I consider it unfortunately unlikely that either side would make a compromise. Especially SFP, though. They're very strong at maintaining mandatory school Swedish everywhere, and they have their loyal allies (which seems a bit strange) in most major parties supporting them. This is strange considering the fact that Swedish is essentially nonexistent language in Eastern Finland, and in certain areas there Russian is much more in need. I've lived in suburbs where Mandarin is more important than Swedish, but those tend to be pretty exceptional...

Main explanation in regard of PS is that they want to serve their voters and stay credible instead of vying for more power through integrity-compromising "cow deals" with other parties, as they're called here. It's not that common in Finnish politics to have such an backbone and responsibility to voters.

[-PPT-]

I'm surprised that of all the parties in Sweden the Centre-Party has come up with a proposal to remove all restrictions on immigration. If the Swedish Centre-Party is anything like its Finnish equivalent then its core supporters are mainly rural people and people living in the rural areas tend to be older than the poplation on the average and also more conservative in their outlook. Therefore a proposal like this coming from them is somewhat surprising.

On the other hand, the party is struggling to clear the 4% threshold demanded to gain representation in the Riksdag, so they have to resort to all kinds of things which could save them. However, this proposal is more likely to drown them. In their initiative they said that Sweden could support 30m more people. If anything that shows they have really lost all their marbles.

[Emo]

It hurts every time I see films like that or when I watch films from my childhood. It was all so different then.

You should really do films about Sweden and put them on youtube in finnish. Even if we perish we could at least learn you something from our mistakes. We are now dragging our selves into a horrible situation. We are like Titanic and we have hit the iceberg bad. Probably there is only a question of time before we all go down in the cold and dark deep.

Please spread the word about Sweden in Finland, we might be your biggest asset. Not to help us, but to describe the violence, rape, killings, burnings and all the political oppression that are taking places right now as we speak.

I would feel so much better if I know that our suffering had a meaning and you could give that to me by just letting the finns know what are happening in Sweden and that it is a very bad idea to do the same thing yo your selves.

I'm a bit surprised to notice you have totally given up with Sweden. You swedes must not give up!

I have been waiting for some swedish writers to come to Hommaforum and now you are here. You know many people who know more people... tell also them to come here to discuss and invite their friends to come here.
It's important for people to know what's going on in Europe! Then they can make decision which party to vote.
We have a few swedishspeaking finns writing here at Homma and almost everyone of us understands some english. And in Sweden there is also finnishspeaking swedes; you are all welcome. We will find a common language.

Radical Muslims In Belgium (Scary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAivyEazJQ0

There is problems with radical islam and immigration everywhere, not only in Sweden.   

[Svensken]

Eino, that was like a closing scene from an old Hollywood Epic. The famous YOU WILL NOT PERISH -speech! Think if we would have a better actor to say it, like young Charlton Heston. And music. And sunset. Beautiful and inspiring! 

I have a dream, that you will not perish. Ask not what your country can do for you not to perish, ask what you can do to make your country not to perish.

They might take our lives, but they can never take your freedom!

[AstaTTT]

They might take our lives, but they can never take your freedom!

Freedom! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr_OpFxCx-A

[Eino P. Keravalta]

The paradox is that if they take your freedom, their own freedom will also disappear.

Because when there's no-one to defend freedom, it will be lost for all.

[Svensken]

It hurts every time I see films like that or when I watch films from my childhood. It was all so different then.

You should really do films about Sweden and put them on youtube in finnish. Even if we perish we could at least learn you something from our mistakes. We are now dragging our selves into a horrible situation. We are like Titanic and we have hit the iceberg bad. Probably there is only a question of time before we all go down in the cold and dark deep.

Please spread the word about Sweden in Finland, we might be your biggest asset. Not to help us, but to describe the violence, rape, killings, burnings and all the political oppression that are taking places right now as we speak.

I would feel so much better if I know that our suffering had a meaning and you could give that to me by just letting the finns know what are happening in Sweden and that it is a very bad idea to do the same thing yo your selves.

I'm a bit surprised to notice you have totally given up with Sweden. You swedes must not give up!

I have been waiting for some swedish writers to come to Hommaforum and now you are here. You know many people who know more people... tell also them to come here to discuss and invite their friends to come here.
It's important for people to know what's going on in Europe! Then they can make decision which party to vote.
We have a few swedishspeaking finns writing here at Homma and almost everyone of us understands some english. And in Sweden there is also finnishspeaking swedes; you are all welcome. We will find a common language.

Radical Muslims In Belgium (Scary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAivyEazJQ0

There is problems with radical islam and immigration everywhere, not only in Sweden.   

I have not given up hope, but the situation are looking incredible dark. I am discussion mainly from the demographic situation and that is something you can make a quite ok estimation about the future. And by this information Sweden is so fast transforming and the clear majority of sweds are extremely brainwashed and the media and schools will make this stay for another 15-30 years which is what is demanded for total change of the country.

I am just trying to be realistic.

We are like the first line of trenches and I am telling you that there is a very big chance that the enemy will run over us. But you in the back trenches still have time to prepare and to spread the word of what happened to us. Hopefully you will be so well prepared and motivated when it's your turn to meet the risk of the end of history you will repeal and win your future.

[Svensken]

The paradox is that if they take your freedom, their own freedom will also disappear.

Because when there's no-one to defend freedom, it will be lost for all.

When we are gone and the gangland is reality for real the multiculturalists might understand that they can't live in their new society. But as you say, then no one will be there to save them from their own wild creation.

Our history will then end... and endless days of horrors will begin. (watch a documentary about the civil war in Kingston in Jamaica or the civil war with the favelas in Brazil, this will be our future then)

[elukka]

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMLJJEDDDGc

[AstaTTT]

^Don't forget us women!   

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[siviilitarkkailija]

eer...terribly sorry but Sweden has been unequal monarchy for past 1000 years from days of Eric the Victorious. It is quite unlikely that people who are grown into unequality being the norm somehow would treat all men equal let alone accept the idea of freedom of men. It could happen in country with elected kings but not in hereditary monarchy.

There are rich and powerful factions who gain their political and official powers through repressing and lying to ordinary swedish people. One such family and its soap opera like behavior is just one example how nothing is turned into "news" and how swedish people can be misled and undermined throug royal bullshit. Another and even more influencial are the circkles of power I call socialist nobility. People who claim to represent working men or commerce but who actually are embodiment of hereditary power and wealth.

I think the first step is to have freedom of speech. Since it is not available in Sweden, you can use your right to freedom of speech in Finland.

[Emo]

^ I don't see monarchy playing any significant role in this because also Germany and France are in same shit with islam and immigration as Sweden is.

[siviilitarkkailija]

Monarchy has very profound impact on society even when it is not obvious political power. Especially when a society is on brink of collapse. Monarchy, even if it is merely formal one, will help people to cope with inequality that no republic can or will stand.

[-PPT-]

Indeed, modern day European monarchies enjoy 80% popular support in every country where that system still exists. That is not because people would love their royals but mainly because people are, rightly so, very suspicious of handing too much power to politicians. Even though modern day monarchs have no political power, their very existence stops any politician from declaring himself a president for life like Kekkonen was in Finland.

[ile]

Thanks Svensken, it has been really interesting.

I think one reason why people here don't see your situation so bad is that your economy has been very good so far. Some people (at least those of pro-immigration generally) think that immigration has actually helped your economy ("Look at Sweden, they are doing great"). Thus, if we blame the crime/other social problems it will will often be dismissed as a "hate speech" or exaggeration. No matter how often something bad happens, it is always an isolated case for some people but they use the economy as a proof that immigration is a good thing.

And people who just read the mainstream media aren't very well informed.

Actually I think it's quite a big feat to have been able to handle everything economically well. Here we are struggling already with it. I think a failing economy might save us both for some troubles in immigration.

I don't have any questions, but I have often been thinking about how well aware are the Swedish people generally of the situation. By saying that people there are brain washed you pretty much answered that.

So thanks again. And welcome to Finland and Homma Meetings at any time (informal meetings of beer drinking and talking politics).

[Jaakko P.]

Svensken, have you been to Torneådalen? If you ever move to Finland, stay clear of Åland and the south coast. The Swedish speaking racists there don't give a pretty impression what bilinguality should be. In north, Övertorneå and such, both sides of the border speak both languages and stick together in everything! That's how it should be, not how the southern wannabe-swedes want it to be; non-equal but more like apartheid with them benefiting from 95% of the non-swedish speaking majority.

I love visiting the swedish side here in the north, I get served well in 3 languages, Finnish, Swedish and English and people are extremely nice. (and a lot of good-looking blondes ofc)
In some places, south, if you go ask something in Finnish you don't even get a response, even if they understand you perfectly well and would also be capable of switching to English. That's how disgustingly racist some of them are.

[Svensken]

Indeed, modern day European monarchies enjoy 80% popular support in every country where that system still exists. That is not because people would love their royals but mainly because people are, rightly so, very suspicious of handing too much power to politicians. Even though modern day monarchs have no political power, their very existence stops any politician from declaring himself a president for life like Kekkonen was in Finland.

I don't know how much it has to do with royalties, but I agree, it is very strange indeed how much our people like the royal family even though the half of them are retards(The King and his son) and the queen is a daughter of a nazi who she has done her best to lie about and hide away. Our king has done so incredibly much stupid things during his years. Every year when he holds hid christmas speech he always tells how much he loves the new Sweden and all its immigrants. When he is in interviews he always looks like a crazy alcoholic and according to all the rumours i have heard he probably is.

I found a suiting picture of our great king at his best. This is taken from a public event, its raining so the king puts on a plastic trash bag, it really suits him.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

And every time those royal retards come to Finland showing themselves publicly,  we have huge crowds gathered at the streets smiling like being retards themselves - which I believe is the case indeed. Believe or not, but here in Finland we have plenty of people who envy you because you have the retards who buy booze and prostitutes with money provided by your taxpayers..

[Svensken]

Thanks Svensken, it has been really interesting.

I think one reason why people here don't see your situation so bad is that your economy has been very good so far. Some people (at least those of pro-immigration generally) think that immigration has actually helped your economy ("Look at Sweden, they are doing great"). Thus, if we blame the crime/other social problems it will will often be dismissed as a "hate speech" or exaggeration. No matter how often something bad happens, it is always an isolated case for some people but they use the economy as a proof that immigration is a good thing.

And people who just read the mainstream media aren't very well informed.

Actually I think it's quite a big feat to have been able to handle everything economically well. Here we are struggling already with it. I think a failing economy might save us both for some troubles in immigration.

I don't have any questions, but I have often been thinking about how well aware are the Swedish people generally of the situation. By saying that people there are brain washed you pretty much answered that.

So thanks again. And welcome to Finland and Homma Meetings at any time (informal meetings of beer drinking and talking politics).

The economy might look good, or better than in other places. There might be a good growth rate. This might also be because of immigration, why is this then?
The massive immigration from the last years have created a huge market of unqualified low paid labour, you could soon start to call us "little china" because we are doing good probable for the same reasons; low paid slave labour. There has been many reports of people working for almost nothing. This i possible because of the "Free labour immigration act" of 2008 when Sweden opened its borders for the whole world. The only demand is that you have an employer and on paper he has to pay a wage that is "common for the kind of jobs that is done." If people then work here for five years they get PUT This means that they can stay in sweden for ever and after five years in the country they can also become a citizen. This is why people happily becomes slaves for some years and then get the benefits of the swedish welfare system.

So if you want massive amounts of underpaid slaves that soon will become a burden on you welfare feel free to open your borders. But I am telling you, there is a very big risk of Sweden getting even more fucked up because of this.  The unemployment is about 10% or more and the influx of new slaves does not help this amount at all. Having a massive labour immigration when you have 10% unemployment is really a good way for the rulers to say "We hate you sweds", which is probably what they do big time. 

And further, a good economy for sweden means bigger tax incomes and large amounts of this income goes to fund immigrants in sweden or to bring more here.

I would rather live in a much poorer society with a homogeneous society that handle the crisis now by being poor than getting money now from destroying their country even more. The economist only looks at the money, but a life and society is so much more than growth rates or tax incomes.

[Svensken]

Svensken, have you been to Torneådalen? If you ever move to Finland, stay clear of Åland and the south coast. The Swedish speaking racists there don't give a pretty impression what bilinguality should be. In north, Övertorneå and such, both sides of the border speak both languages and stick together in everything! That's how it should be, not how the southern wannabe-swedes want it to be; non-equal but more like apartheid with them benefiting from 95% of the non-swedish speaking majority.

I love visiting the swedish side here in the north, I get served well in 3 languages, Finnish, Swedish and English and people are extremely nice. (and a lot of good-looking blondes ofc)
In some places, south, if you go ask something in Finnish you don't even get a response, even if they understand you perfectly well and would also be capable of switching to English. That's how disgustingly racist some of them are.

I have not been to "Tårnedalen" but from what you tell me I should really go visit I am really happy for you living in that kind of harmony with the bilingualism. You should really try to learn the rest of the country something

[Svensken]

If the Swedish Centre-Party is anything like its Finnish equivalent then its core supporters are mainly rural people and people living in the rural areas

The swedish center is quite different from the finnish center. Even though the swedish center has it's background in the country-side (Jordbrukarnas Riksförbund) it is nowadays a real politically centered party. Here, the center is still an agrarian party (bondeparti) trying to rip off the taxpayers for more farm subsidies.

The swedish center party has managed to get the most crazy leaders one can find. The previous one, Maud Olofsson, was a real lunatic regarding immigration. Her stupidity reached epic proportions. The closest runner up was probably Gudrun Schyman who wanted to tax men for beeing men. The present one, Anne Lööf, is not that much better.

Maud Olofsson was the woman who started to talk about immigrants as "nybyggare" (uudisraivaajat). Anne Lööf wanted to have 30 miljon africans to Sweden. I guess even the most hard-core multiculturalist realized that center partys immigration policy would vipe Sweden off the map permanently. No wonder they don't have any support.

A very good description
Maud was so good when she sat in SVT and said "We have to have insurance for all our nuclear plants in Germany" and the journalists tried to tell her that we would never be able to pay of such an event if it would happen, we would be stuck for ever with a huge debt. She did not care or understand and said "Vattenfall is a responsible company, insurance it is!" Later in the same month she came up with the brilliant idea to sell the whole of our electric grid to foreign risk capitalists.

Annie Lööf is really much more crazy, but the majority of her partys backbone members hates her for wanting to freely import immigrants. She has also done other lovely things, this summer she was told by the homosexual lobby organisation RFSL that she was to radical when she demanded to take away the quarantine time for homosexual men giving blood. She also wants to legalize the spreading of HIV/AIDS but that is something she has in common with most of the leading swedish politicians.

[Goman]

I consider it unfortunately unlikely that either side would make a compromise. Especially SFP, though. They're very strong at maintaining mandatory school Swedish everywhere, and they have their loyal allies (which seems a bit strange) in most major parties supporting them. This is strange considering the fact that Swedish is essentially nonexistent language in Eastern Finland, and in certain areas there Russian is much more in need.

That is true, and one strange thing more is that students and their parents don't want to learn Russian. They choose rather Swedish.  Despite of that it is commonly known that Russian skills helps a lot if you are seeking a job in the eastern parts of Finland. Finns do have some kind of a negative approach to Russia. And vice versa a glorifying approach to Sweden, still.

So, you Swedes have much admirers, in the whole Finland.

[siviilitarkkailija]

Individual lunatics are reoccurring event in politics. In Swedish system the big money and small family circkles of power remain. The whole point of swedish political system is to make sure ordinary swedish people are bombarded constantly with "pseudo news" of royal family and football.  if we strip swedish news from royal and football news, we are left with nothing but commercial annonucements.

When one thinks of female politician who apparently quite seriously suggests a male tax, we are not in a parody horizon. This just goes to show how a system has enabled throroughly insane person to institutionalize utter inequality through equal means. Can happen to any country with state sponsored media apparatus and that media having a political agenda. With suggestions like hers I can understand why Sweden is key ground to organisations like al quaida and other extreme islamic groups. In cultural reality what else there is but islamic retaliation?

Why Sweden has retarded to such level an why it keeps spreading through media criminals such as allers? Obviously the point being money. Those with money choose to keep it an prevent 'have not's' from gaining it. That is why media keeps bombarding people with pseudo news an blatant propaganda lies. It helps to maintain financial an political power within the small family circkles.

A very good example of complete and utter swedish media crap is the princess Madeleine wedding. Underneath the royal wedding brewhaa swedish people are happy to ignore tons of gangrape, unemployment and mismanagement news. It is a custom swedish people choose. Or media has chosen it for them for so many years that they find it impossible to picture true political power being in limelight. Like how much money a family like Wallenbergs made through immigration and what it costed to the state? in Finland there are uber rich families as well who are keen to exploit immigration at expense of wellfare state. Luckily there are no royal smokescreen to cover up the aftermath. Not that finnish press didnt have interest to cover up mismanagement and fraudulent immigration.

[J. Lannan haamu]

Greetings to Svensken also on my behalf,

To answer your question "How are the normal finns reacting to the fact that Sweden is becoming a gansterland?"

Very often I discuss these matters with my relative who has lived in Stockholm for 30 years. I am somewhat aware of the 'development' that has taken place in such places like Husby, Rinkeby, Hallonberget or many other places in Stockholm. It is my Finnish and Swedish friends living in Stockholm, who are being told (by immigrants) to fuck off and go home (??). What impudence, what liberalism...

Now to give one form of answer to that question. I am sorry to say this, and this opinion is very much only my individual opinion, but I believe that 'normal Finns' do not know shit about the problems of the world. Not environmental problems, not socio-cultural problems or not economical problems. However, they do know more than probably majority of people in general . You see many of us Finns tend to have a symptom of not wanting or not caring about these dark matters. Many times those people who are interested in Sweden, they are Finnish hipsters who just want to visit the fancy cafes and clothes stores in Södermalm. Södermalm is of course a nice place, but many Finnish want to take the nice stuff out of Sweden and totally ignore the existence of any negative aspects. Especially since at the moment it is a huge hype to be interested in 'exotic' and 'rootsy' people. How could they possess any sort of negative impacts...

So the normal people are not aware of what is going on in Sweden. I have many times tried to encourage to read the book 'Svensk maffia' or sending them articles etc. But nothing changes...

So where it all boils down to, in my opinion it is the mind-set of people. Psychological and biological mindset that prevents them to address the problems. And this mind-set of theirs is very, very difficult to change because their huge ego is protecting it.

Vi hörs!

[Svensken]

I wanted to say that the site "Sikolätti" seems very interesting and good but how big is it in Finland?
The webbtool Alexa.com does not give any good answer.

[Svensken]

And every time those royal retards come to Finland showing themselves publicly,  we have huge crowds gathered at the streets smiling like being retards themselves - which I believe is the case indeed. Believe or not, but here in Finland we have plenty of people who envy you because you have the retards who buy booze and prostitutes with money provided by your taxpayers..

Haha, this was a very good way of putting it. It's sad that you think there is any kind of charm to this family. If you are to have a royal family its really good if they have some kind of class and behave as if they were something special (living from millions of our taxmoney they better fake it at least). But they are retards for real... The king is a real alcoholic, he would sit in a park drinking some cheep vodka if he was not king. Now he drinks expensive brands in one of his many castles.

There is this joke about the royal children: "Victoria, Madeleine and Carl-Philip are second generation immigrants who lives on welfare."

There is this true story where our king thought he was in Örebro and greeted all "Kära örebroare" but they were in Arbåga
Another time he could not remember if he has been to a porn club so he said: "No.....I....think....not....no....not a porn club....maby ones in paris....but...no." The reporter then asks "But what about the photos of the sex-photos with two women where you are said to participate?" The king then asks "Maby...no....maby from Gotland when I am with my family there in the summer?"

When you see a clip from this interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkkWqV9Es0
Look at the man, this retarded drunkard gets hundreds of millions every year!