Ask Svensken

[Svensken]

Thanks, it's nice to know that there are people who cares about our situation...

I do care. I know personally many swedish people, some of them are of finnish origin and some are native swedish (no immigrant background). Some are still living in Sweden, and some of them have moved to Finland. I even know native swedish persons (with NO FINNISH ROOTS) that have moved to Finland!!

The situation of your country is soon also our situation, if nothing is to be done. And naturally I'm also worried about swedish people, I'm christian and I'm sentimental woman. 

Is that friend of yours who told you to write to Homma, is that friend of finnish backgroud?

Very impressing with sweds moving to Finland, because of my work and my friends and relatives in Sweden I think this would be very hard for me. But I might come visit you, and when things start burning for real maybe Ålandcould could be thinkable.

My friend is finnish

[AstaTTT]

But what is the difference between you and PS? I mean are they any reason for the crazy people to get more crazy over you, or is it just that you are a smaller group that more easily can be attacked?

We are a small group but like I said earlier, energetic! 

PS promotes conservative values, we promote three things:
1. Direct democracy
2. Freedom of speech
3. Protecting the national interests of Finns

The third point includes our goal to change the current refugee policy to a more tightly controlled one which makes us a natural enemy to anyone with a pro-immigration agenda. Other parties don't state their goal as clearly as we do.

And once we have direct democracy in place (i.e. referendums that bind decision-makers), there is no need for item three at all - the nation will be able to decide for itself.

[Emo]

6-1

MM 2011 Suomi - Ruotsi Maalikooste (Den Glider In)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E0eb5MPVrA

Jag besökte Sverige i Maj 2011 och jag sade till några svensker då att nu måste jag skynda mig eftersom jag vill vara hemma i Finland och se på TV Sverige-Finland ishockey final på kvällen. Jag berättade till dem också att FINLAND SKA VINNA IGEN!
De trodde inte på mig att Finland ska vinna, men jag sade att kom ihåg vad jag har sagt på kvällen när du ser att Finland är världsmästare!!     Jag hade en stark känsla att vi ska vinna!


1995 Ice Hockey World Championship Final   (Sweden - Finland  1-4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laqGlKQE8VY


  Fårlot mig jag är nationalistisk!   

[Tuju]

You survived a civil war, survived a war with Soviet Union and your country was one of the three in Europe that was not occupied(together with Britain and Soviet).

Actually Finland was occupied by russians. After the war, we handed over land areas for military bases like Estonia did (which eventually led to loss of their independence completely). Peninsula of Porkkala had heavy artillery that could reach Helsinki downtown. Hanko was occupied by russians. Hotel Torni had monitoring comission that influenced everything.

After getting military bases, soviet union influenced finnish politics with financial support for commies and eventually turned into socialistic country, sort of oblast of USSR, which it still is even it fell down 20 years ago. Finland and Estonia like other young countries had real right-wing movements before the war but they were banned after it. Estonia got full load of itself and has been able to process all that after the collapse, Finland is still under 'finlandization' towards russia and for example - haven't been able to process the infamous name list of Tiitinen, its ex DDR agents, most of the times bends over when russia says so. (gas pipe, etc, etc)

Nowdays finns are so screwed in their heads that they call left-wing True finns as a 'right wing' political movement, which is understandable when you observe your surrondings even deeper remnants of soviet union. Finnish 'right-wing' NCP increases budget deficit worse than socialists ever did. Everything is more or less upside down.

Anyway, what kind democratic independence it would be while your parliament building is inside enemy's artillery range?

No, finland did not win the war, we did not keep our sovereignty, we were occupied - and worst, lost something very valuable that cannot be counted in territory nor money.

On topic, big thanks to your insight of Swedish situation, one of the best topics at this site ever.

[Emo]

Very impressing with sweds moving to Finland, because of my work and my friends and relatives in Sweden I think this would be very hard for me. But I might come visit you, and when things start burning for real maybe Ålandcould could be thinkable.

They have moved here because of love/marriage. Not for asylum, yet.

[rapa-nuiv]

Why is Swedish peoples party so pro mass immigration?

............
In general, SFP is laser-gazed single-focus party. If something benefits Swedish speaking minority, to hell with thought how it affects

  Well you nailed it there. In normal sosioeconomical issuses SFP is an ideological vacuum.
They are ready to compromise on any other issue as far as their  agenda -language issues and regional interests of coastal municipalities  - are handled their way. This makes them an attractive supporting cabinet member for any of the dominant parties. As SFP is allways ready to horse trade.
And since recently our political system has been dominated by aging '68-generation "pink liberal hippies", SFP is now singing their songs.

How can you have a low self-esteem? ...
You are surely one of the best country and people in the world, how can you be so humble in front of your own superbness?
(This humbleness only makes you even better )

  That is the whole point.
It is just good manners: The host belittles his catering and the guest is expected to counter with praise.

You play our game well 

[Spesialisti]

In Swedish elections there is this system where you must publicly pick up ballot paper belonging to each party or name list. How is this really working concerning vote secrecy? Case: If an elementary school teacher votes for SD with party ballot in a small liberal town, how quickly the rumor spreads?

I would see this a normal procedure of voting in some African dictatorships, but I think they have just not heard yet of this Swedish innovation..

In Finnish culture, where neighbor's privacy is much appreciated, this just couldn't be tolerated (less people would go voting, at least I wouldn't). I just wonder..shouldn't there be a huge movement in Sweden to abolish this kind of bizarre election system, in the haven of democracy.?

I heard there is a blank ballot also to select, but I can think that in a small town causes suspicion as well..

[foobar]

Our prime minister Fredrick Reinfeldt during the last election said that "People who have things to do with Sweden Democrats can expect to get attacked in their homes and get badly injured." This was said in connection to an claimed attack against a Sweden Democrat where he was stabbed in his head.

That statement wouldn't go down easily in Finland. Ministerial position in strong majority government might be maintained after such a comment (especially if it comes from strong prime minister), but it would be real weight to any politician in Finland. For lesser politicians, it would probably ruin any chances of upward mainstream political career.

This doesn't mean that Finnish politics wouldn't be full of situations where close to unforgivable occurrences are forgiven for opportunistic reasons and minor issues are blown out of proportion, but as far as my opinion on local political climate holds, majority of Finns strongly value fulfillment of individual rights (=no need to fear) no matter what political opinion one does have. Those that differ in this regard are seen as extremists, not the ones that want even their "enemies" to have rights.

[Svensken]

Hi Svensken, thank you for writing in this forum. I am Eino, living southern Finland in Kerava.

It saddens me a great deal to see the situation in Sweden, really. You see, for me Sweden has always been an admirable country and swedish people are without doubt among the most advanced ethnic groups in the whole world: you are innovative, intelligent, kind, fun loving, humane, talented and creative. The country you have built and created has been one of the best places on this planet and so it shocks me to see that your fellow citizens and politicians are ready to destroy it all within a generation or two. Losing traditional Sweden and it's culture is a terrible loss for all mankind. I cannot understand why something so great and beautiful must be turned into a living hell plagued with gangster morals, corruption, gang rapers, ghettos, ethnic violence and racism towards swedish people.

Maybe someday in the future ethnic swedes, finns, norwegians and danes create together a new Northern Paradise cherishing their own culture and values, living together in peace without the violence, chaos and poverty so embodied in many exotic cultures and traditions.

It warms a lot to her that you people on the safe side of the sea seems to care so much. I would have no problem with a Nordic Union, but it seems more far away now than ever. I think you should really focus on Finland. You are the only western country that have not been hit as hard as the rest of us with mass immigration and political oppression, that is worth to remark and to be happy for. But you have to care, make others care and really put up a good fight.

For if you do not win there might be a Nordic Union after all, the "Nordic Gangland" or maybe "Al Scandi"...

[Svensken]

But what is the difference between you and PS? I mean are they any reason for the crazy people to get more crazy over you, or is it just that you are a smaller group that more easily can be attacked?

We are a small group but like I said earlier, energetic! 

PS promotes conservative values, we promote three things:
1. Direct democracy
2. Freedom of speech
3. Protecting the national interests of Finns

The third point includes our goal to change the current refugee policy to a more tightly controlled one which makes us a natural enemy to anyone with a pro-immigration agenda. Other parties don't state their goal as clearly as we do.

And once we have direct democracy in place (i.e. referendums that bind decision-makers), there is no need for item three at all - the nation will be able to decide for itself.

I wish you the best of luck in your political work!

[AstaTTT]

^ Never give up, never surrender. 

[Svensken]

You survived a civil war, survived a war with Soviet Union and your country was one of the three in Europe that was not occupied(together with Britain and Soviet).

Actually Finland was occupied by russians. After the war, we handed over land areas for military bases like Estonia did (which eventually led to loss of their independence completely). Peninsula of Porkkala had heavy artillery that could reach Helsinki downtown. Hanko was occupied by russians. Hotel Torni had monitoring comission that influenced everything.

After getting military bases, soviet union influenced finnish politics with financial support for commies and eventually turned into socialistic country, sort of oblast of USSR, which it still is even it fell down 20 years ago. Finland and Estonia like other young countries had real right-wing movements before the war but they were banned after it. Estonia got full load of itself and has been able to process all that after the collapse, Finland is still under 'finlandization' towards russia and for example - haven't been able to process the infamous name list of Tiitinen, its ex DDR agents, most of the times bends over when russia says so. (gas pipe, etc, etc)

Nowdays finns are so screwed in their heads that they call left-wing True finns as a 'right wing' political movement, which is understandable when you observe your surrondings even deeper remnants of soviet union. Finnish 'right-wing' NCP increases budget deficit worse than socialists ever did. Everything is more or less upside down.

Anyway, what kind democratic independence it would be while your parliament building is inside enemy's artillery range?

No, finland did not win the war, we did not keep our sovereignty, we were occupied - and worst, lost something very valuable that cannot be counted in territory nor money.

On topic, big thanks to your insight of Swedish situation, one of the best topics at this site ever.

You might be right in some ways, but you got away from full occupation which was what I meant. You did not get NKVD-groupd killing all officers and anti-communists. Your situation beside Stalins expansionist Soviet that was a quite hard but ok price to pay. You got the better end of it compared to the Baltics, Poland, South East Europe and Germany.

I am really sad that we did not help you out in the war.

I thank you a lot for your kind words or my postings. I can't my self say anything though I don't understand the rest of the forum, but I take your word for it

[Svensken]

Why is Swedish peoples party so pro mass immigration?

............
In general, SFP is laser-gazed single-focus party. If something benefits Swedish speaking minority, to hell with thought how it affects

  Well you nailed it there. In normal sosioeconomical issuses SFP is an ideological vacuum.
They are ready to compromise on any other issue as far as their  agenda -language issues and regional interests of coastal municipalities  - are handled their way. This makes them an attractive supporting cabinet member for any of the dominant parties. As SFP is allways ready to horse trade.
And since recently our political system has been dominated by aging '68-generation "pink liberal hippies", SFP is now singing their songs.

How can you have a low self-esteem? ...
You are surely one of the best country and people in the world, how can you be so humble in front of your own superbness?
(This humbleness only makes you even better )

  That is the whole point.
It is just good manners: The host belittles his catering and the guest is expected to counter with praise.

You play our game well 

SFP seems like an enigma for further studies.

I thank you for the compliment on my manners

[Svensken]

Our prime minister Fredrick Reinfeldt during the last election said that "People who have things to do with Sweden Democrats can expect to get attacked in their homes and get badly injured." This was said in connection to an claimed attack against a Sweden Democrat where he was stabbed in his head.

That statement wouldn't go down easily in Finland. Ministerial position in strong majority government might be maintained after such a comment (especially if it comes from strong prime minister), but it would be real weight to any politician in Finland. For lesser politicians, it would probably ruin any chances of upward mainstream political career.

This doesn't mean that Finnish politics wouldn't be full of situations where close to unforgivable occurrences are forgiven for opportunistic reasons and minor issues are blown out of proportion, but as far as my opinion on local political climate holds, majority of Finns strongly value fulfillment of individual rights (=no need to fear) no matter what political opinion one does have. Those that differ in this regard are seen as extremists, not the ones that want even their "enemies" to have rights.

There were no political or medial consequentness for mr Reinfeldt concerning his statement. The SD were sad and angry of course, but they have known from the beginning that they are not seen as humans. They are and have always been seen as racist pigs that everyone have the right to hate, attack or even kill.

I have long wondered how long it will take for the first political murder against a person from SD.

[Svensken]

In Swedish elections there is this system where you must publicly pick up ballot paper belonging to each party or name list. How is this really working concerning vote secrecy? Case: If an elementary school teacher votes for SD with party ballot in a small liberal town, how quickly the rumor spreads?

I would see this a normal procedure of voting in some African dictatorships, but I think they have just not heard yet of this Swedish innovation..

In Finnish culture, where neighbor's privacy is much appreciated, this just couldn't be tolerated (less people would go voting, at least I wouldn't). I just wonder..shouldn't there be a huge movement in Sweden to abolish this kind of bizarre election system, in the haven of democracy.?

I heard there is a blank ballot also to select, but I can think that in a small town causes suspicion as well..

The papers for the parties are positioned so that everyone can see which you take. It's a bit scary to take the "wrong one". Most people take many papers and bring behind to the voting boot where they put the paper in a envelope and then hand it in to the vote-controller. It's true that this procedure can scare people from voting wrong, I am a swed and have never seen any other system. It's a horrible and scary system but i know nothing else. Who told you we're not an African dictatorship. Mr Reinfeldt often tells how he is 1/8 African

How do you vote in Finland?

[Tabula Rasa]

In Swedish elections there is this system where you must publicly pick up ballot paper belonging to each party or name list. How is this really working concerning vote secrecy? Case: If an elementary school teacher votes for SD with party ballot in a small liberal town, how quickly the rumor spreads?

I would see this a normal procedure of voting in some African dictatorships, but I think they have just not heard yet of this Swedish innovation..

In Finnish culture, where neighbor's privacy is much appreciated, this just couldn't be tolerated (less people would go voting, at least I wouldn't). I just wonder..shouldn't there be a huge movement in Sweden to abolish this kind of bizarre election system, in the haven of democracy.?

I heard there is a blank ballot also to select, but I can think that in a small town causes suspicion as well..

The papers for the parties are positioned so that everyone can see which you take. It's a bit scary to take the "wrong one". Most people take many papers behind the boot where they put the paper in a envelope and then hand it in to the vote-controller. It's true that this procedure can scare people from voting wrong, I am a swed and have never seen any other system. It's a horrible and scary system but i know nothing else.

How do you vote in Finland?

We got one blanco card from voting supervisor and put candidate number to it. After that we close it to envelope in front of supervisor and next who open that envelope is votecounter.     

[Svensken]

In Swedish elections there is this system where you must publicly pick up ballot paper belonging to each party or name list. How is this really working concerning vote secrecy? Case: If an elementary school teacher votes for SD with party ballot in a small liberal town, how quickly the rumor spreads?

I would see this a normal procedure of voting in some African dictatorships, but I think they have just not heard yet of this Swedish innovation..

In Finnish culture, where neighbor's privacy is much appreciated, this just couldn't be tolerated (less people would go voting, at least I wouldn't). I just wonder..shouldn't there be a huge movement in Sweden to abolish this kind of bizarre election system, in the haven of democracy.?

I heard there is a blank ballot also to select, but I can think that in a small town causes suspicion as well..

The papers for the parties are positioned so that everyone can see which you take. It's a bit scary to take the "wrong one". Most people take many papers behind the boot where they put the paper in a envelope and then hand it in to the vote-controller. It's true that this procedure can scare people from voting wrong, I am a swed and have never seen any other system. It's a horrible and scary system but i know nothing else.

How do you vote in Finland?

We got one blanco card from voting supervisor and put candidate number to it. After that we close it to envelope in front of supervisor and next who open that envelope is votecounter.   

You don't vote for a party?

We mainly vote for a party and if you wish you can mark the party-candidate that you like the best. But the parties does their lists with a hierarchy before. This list is what often the order in which candidates becomes voted in.

[foobar]

SFP seems like an enigma for further studies.

In one way, SFP has also marginalized itself: only people for whom it makes sense to vote them are the Swedish speakers. Swedish speakers (so called "duck pond" by themselves among others) and SFP are largely the same thing. For speakers of Finnish, any other party offers more specific policies on things not related to Swedish language or minority status. Some Swedish-speaking Finns obviously vote other parties, but it seems they're not particularly keen to talk about in general. (At least those I know.)

But still, SFP is only one minor party on the field of Finnish politics. Alone it could do very little. Other parties do matter more regarding immigration policy, although some may be less interested than some others.

[foobar]

We got one blanco card from voting supervisor and put candidate number to it. After that we close it to envelope in front of supervisor and next who open that envelope is votecounter.   

You don't vote for a party?

We mainly vote for a party and if you wish you can mark the party-candidate that you like the best. But the parties does their lists with a hierarchy before. This list is what often the order in which candidates becomes voted in.

Votes always to to a candidate, and parties can't make a "party list" which would prefer certain candidate over another.

Envelope is used only in advance voting, and on primary voting day, ballots are put directly to the ballot box.

Many aspects of the Finnish political system probably stem from deep division and resulting deep distrust resulting from war of independence. Each side had to be convinced that even though they would not trust their opponent, they could trust the system (anonymity in election, fair vote counting and fair representation in democracy). It would seem that only crisis and division makes people shape systems in a trustworthy way - eventually these systems erode when people forget that hardships and divisions were real...

I don't believe anyone of common sense would suggest party-coloured ballots in Finland. Even the leftist loonies don't go that way - maybe because they still may have sufficient amount of common sense to remember that vote anonymity actually protected them after the war of independence.

[siviilitarkkailija]

(http://is12.snstatic.fi/kuvat/alippu/img-1288432603192.jpeg)
Picture of a Finnish ballot. There is circle and line and you are supposed to write number of the politician you vote for. Still many people fail to do this and write donald duck, vagina or something other than number. These votes fail. Only clear numbers count.
Ballot is folded, stamped and put into a ballot box. Person and party are given value in a manner where person with most votes is voted first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Hondt_method

Is used to calculate the result.

Reason why there is no democracy or free election in Sweden is result of history. Sweden is monarchy. Monarchy does not consider all men equal. In democracy all men are equal. In constitutional monarchy people are led to believe them being equal even if they are not. Swedish people are given Royal bullshit show and crappy beer because they are content with that and being lazy and less prone to revolt, nobody really gives damn what sweds think. That is why Sweden uses list vote. So its all crappy and shit party corruption but then again, in self-sufficient socialsti monarchy the politics is method of avoiding change and maintaining royal socialist monarchy.

Swedish politics is just a method of maintaining power within very small and very swedish circles having literally all real power with state officals. Its bit more corrupt than in Finland and we can easily see who is most corrupt politician by statements they make when they try to bring Swedish list-election to Finland. Sosialist shitheads are eager because it would open doors to corrupt party politics because in list elections biggest party shithead always goes throug no matter what. And all change will be destroyed through party pre voting.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

I think you should really focus on Finland. You are the only western country that have not been hit as hard as the rest of us with mass immigration and political oppression

I believe that Sweden belongs to swedes and I hope that you will fight politically for the right to rule your own country. Although official Sweden promotes multiculturalism, I know that many Swedes do not accept that political ideology but same time are publicly too quiet or "politically correct" to really let the world know of their true thoughts and feelings. But the day will come when the majority of Swedes will have enough of this veiled fascism called multiculturalism and then they will stand up and let their voices to be heard. But it could be too late then in the year X because if this progress let continued there will be time when Swedes represent minority in their own country and nothing can be done anymore - at least in a civilised way.

And should that feared day to come, let all you Swedes know that all of you are most welcomed to come to Finland, settle here and join your brothers and sisters, the Finns, to create a "joint venture" to create a new home for the Nordic Race and it's irreplaceable culture. And long before that, you, the Swedes, are welcomed to move to this side of the narrow sea to have your home and business. You see, for the historical reasons, the west coast of Finland is already a home for many swedish speaking Finnish citizens. Through the years I have been thinking that it would be a mutually beneficial advantage for us, the Nordic races, to work together for our global good and rights and to create a Land, where our culture, values and our own uniqueness are protected while peace, common cultural goals and harmony prevail.

This may sound too sentimental (  ) but in this world ruled by nations destroying fascists, it is, I believe, very important for us, the Nordic Folks, to join together to fight for our rights as human beings against the future Orwellian Society, which seeks to destroy democracy, human rights and the freedom of speech through chaos and violence provided by multiculturalism.

[AstaTTT]

^ Thumbs up for the big heart! 

I also welcome all oppressed Swedes with common sense of justice, equality and responsibility to Finland. The problem that we have with poorly controlled immigration is a shared one.

e: typo corrected

[Svensken]

(http://is12.snstatic.fi/kuvat/alippu/img-1288432603192.jpeg)
Picture of a Finnish ballot. There is circle and line and you are supposed to write number of the politician you vote for. Still many people fail to do this and write donald duck, vagina or something other than number. These votes fail. Only clear numbers count.
Ballot is folded, stamped and put into a ballot box. Person and party are given value in a manner where person with most votes is voted first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Hondt_method

Is used to calculate the result.

Reason why there is no democracy or free election in Sweden is result of history. Sweden is monarchy. Monarchy does not consider all men equal. In democracy all men are equal. In constitutional monarchy people are led to believe them being equal even if they are not. Swedish people are given Royal bullshit show and crappy beer because they are content with that and being lazy and less prone to revolt, nobody really gives damn what sweds think. That is why Sweden uses list vote. So its all crappy and shit party corruption but then again, in self-sufficient socialsti monarchy the politics is method of avoiding change and maintaining royal socialist monarchy.

Swedish politics is just a method of maintaining power within very small and very swedish circles having literally all real power with state officals. Its bit more corrupt than in Finland and we can easily see who is most corrupt politician by statements they make when they try to bring Swedish list-election to Finland. Sosialist shitheads are eager because it would open doors to corrupt party politics because in list elections biggest party shithead always goes throug no matter what. And all change will be destroyed through party pre voting.

This is how our election papers looks like. You put them in a envelope and then you vote. The name of the party is very easy to spot when they stand very publicly when you pick them.

[Svensken]

I think you should really focus on Finland. You are the only western country that have not been hit as hard as the rest of us with mass immigration and political oppression

I believe that Sweden belongs to swedes and I hope that you will fight politically for the right to rule your own country. Although official Sweden promotes multiculturalism, I know that many Swedes do not accept that political ideology but same time are publicly too quiet or "politically correct" to really let the world know of their true thoughts and feelings. But the day will come when the majority of Swedes will have enough of this veiled fascism called multiculturalism and then they will stand up and let their voices to be heard. But it could be too late then in the year X because if this progress let continued there will be time when Swedes represent minority in their own country and nothing can be done anymore - at least in a civilised way.

And should that feared day to come, let all you Swedes know that all of you are most welcomed to come to Finland, settle here and join your brothers and sisters, the Finns, to create a "joint venture" to create a new home for the Nordic Race and it's irreplaceable culture. And long before that, you, the Swedes, are welcomed to move to this side of the narrow sea to have your home and business. You see, for the historical reasons, the west coast of Finland is already a home for many swedish speaking Finnish citizens. Through the years I have been thinking that it would be a mutually beneficial advantage for us, the Nordic races, to work together for our global good and rights and to create a Land, where our culture, values and our own uniqueness are protected while peace, common cultural goals and harmony prevail.

This may sound too sentimental (  ) but in this world ruled by nations destroying fascists, it is, I believe, very important for us, the Nordic Folks, to join together to fight for our rights as human beings against the future Orwellian Society, which seeks to destroy democracy, human rights and the freedom of speech through chaos and violence provided by multiculturalism.

When things goes really bad here I will take a good thinking about the future and there is a good chance I might flee to Finland. But of course I will do my best here in Sweden.

How are the normal finns reacting to the fact that Sweden is becoming a gansterland?

[AstaTTT]

^ Probably most Finns have relatives, friends and/or acquaintances living in Sweden and we are worried. Your present is our potential future.

[Emo]

How are the normal finns reacting to the fact that Sweden is becoming a gansterland?

I think the normal finns don't know about the bad situation of Sweden and they don't believe if somebody tells them.
We abnormal finns ( ), we know about Sweden of Today.


Welcome to Sweden of Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlG75wb7lLw

[Svensken]

How are the normal finns reacting to the fact that Sweden is becoming a gansterland?

I think the normal finns don't know about the bad situation of Sweden and they don't believe if somebody tells them.
We abnormal finns ( ), we know about Sweden of Today.


Welcome to Sweden of Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlG75wb7lLw

It hurts every time I see films like that or when I watch films from my childhood. It was all so different then.

You should really do films about Sweden and put them on youtube in finnish. Even if we perish we could at least learn you something from our mistakes. We are now dragging our selves into a horrible situation. We are like Titanic and we have hit the iceberg bad. Probably there is only a question of time before we all go down in the cold and dark deep.

Please spread the word about Sweden in Finland, we might be your biggest asset. Not to help us, but to describe the violence, rape, killings, burnings and all the political oppression that are taking places right now as we speak.

I would feel so much better if I know that our suffering had a meaning and you could give that to me by just letting the finns know what are happening in Sweden and that it is a very bad idea to do the same thing yo your selves.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

How are the normal finns reacting to the fact that Sweden is becoming a gansterland?

Generally, they do not know a thing about it.

That's because our media is as multiculturally corrupted as in any other European country: they always praise the goodness and unavoidableness or imperativeness of multiculturalism but never really expose the huge negative side of it.

I think that people are somewhat afraid of talking of this subject because media has labeled anti-multiculturalists as being bad or racist people and even asking important questions is usually considered suspicious. People in Finland may have relatives in Sweden who are well aware of those gansterland problems, but do they ever talk about these things? Hardly not: they both stay in politically correct subjects like the price of salmon or weather.. very much must happen indeed before ordinary people will wake up or find their braveness against all this mass-media propaganda. And that could be way too late.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

if we perish

You will not perish.

However, there will be a war. A massive, long lasting war in Europe. It's a war between European values, European culture and European people against this "Gansterland". Days to come are tough. They are hard. There will be blood everywhere. But we will never give up or perish. Because we are many and because we represent humanity, democracy and human rights. The evil will perish. But it takes time. The times of near future are crucial. But the war has already begun. We must be ready to fight for humanity against the Beast. And we are. You will not perish.

[Svensken]

SFP seems like an enigma for further studies.

SFP is the equivalent of Swedens Centerpartiet. Basically a miniscule more or less feminist party who in the face of disappearing completely with the diminishing swedish speaking minority, want to import new voters from abroad.
Traditionally the crazy multiculturalism is something that the leftist are up to, but SFP is basically a right-wing party. At least when it comes to economics.

The whole loonacy started when Göran Persson was PM in Sweden. SFP's big-wigs (especially a certain Astrid Thors) got lobbied by the sosialists in Sweden and came back with the crazy idea of opening up the borders in order to save the world from poverty, unhappiness and bad weather.
At these same times Göran Persson came out with some public statements that Finland is not taking it's "responsibility" when it comes to importing people from abroad, and Sweden is taking up too much of the immigration pressure. The exact logic about why we should sort out Göran Perssons messy socialist politics in Sweden escaped everyone, but anyway, the idea caught on in Finland.

Now, SFP has traditionally (and unfortunately) always been in the government as a fill-in party and therefore was in a  position to bring the multicultural ideas right to the top of the government. Eventually other parties jumped the boat, smelling the opportunity to get some new votes from the immigrants, and of course no-one wanted to look like the "racist" kid on the block now that the swedish immigration rethoric was copied into the finnish political debate.
Nowadays multiculturalism is widely supported troughout the political arena except for the Sannfinnländarna -party (although they do not have a particularely strong official standpoint against immigration).

Regarding SFP, it's voters are pretty much the swedish speaking (6%) minority in Finland. They do not really have any other agenda than to preserve some special "rights" the finnoswedes have. Nowadays multiculturalism is also a big topic for SFP but not necessarely for it's voters.

The reason (in my view) why SFP still exists is it's strong financial background combined with an idea that no other party really talks for the "swedish issues" in Finland. The (small but) loud anti-swedish movement in Finland has also polarized the language-politics cementing SFP:s position among the finnoswedes.

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In total, the big picture is quite similar to the swedish situation with a hysterical press, politicians praising multiculturalism, political corretness, censorship etc. that follows the naive worshipping of foreign etnicities and cultures.
That said, I think the avareness amongst the common man of the multicultural disaster, is probably somewhat more widespread in Finland than in Sweden.
Actually, and to be blunt, Sweden is often cited as the ultimate example of horror when it comes to multiculturalism as an utterly and completely failed social experiment that brings nothing but poverty, death, and destruction to the people.
I'm sorry to say, but what was once absurd jokes in cartoons has now become everyday news from Sweden.

Can't PS just come up with a good compromise about the swedish language, showing that you all can benefit from having a new language-peace-deal?

As I understood it many finns are sometimes behaving badly to the swedish speakers because they are so angry from being forced to talk this "better people language". So you have both the swedish speakers who are attacking finland by promoting multiculturalism and finns who have resentment against the swedish speakers. This kinds of divisions are very bad for a country.

If the swedish talking finns could let the most part of the country loose from the forced swedish they could get like bettering of the right to service on swedish in contact with the central authorities. The forced swedish could be kept in the areas where the swedishspeakers live like in Österbottnia, Egentliga Finland and Nyland but letting the rest off the hook of the forced swedish?

This is just a suggestion from a foreigner, how do you people see a good compromise look like? Do you think there could be any point in PS trying to seek peace with the powerful minority in this way?