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Started by Svensken, 23.12.2012, 10:47:44

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Svensken

Quote from: JoKaGO on 15.01.2013, 23:46:37
Quote from: Svensken on 23.12.2012, 12:36:07
Här fann jag information som berör det du frågade om bidragen: (For all the people who don't speak swedish this is about how much money you get as a immigrant in sweden.)
Sedan etableringsreformen trädde i kraft får en nyanländ arbetslös invandrarmamma med tre barn följande bidrag varje månad.

6 510 kr i etableringsersättning
4 500 kr i etableringstillägg
4 500 kr i bostadsbidrag
3 754 kr i barnbidrag
2 546 kr i underhållsstöd

= 21 810 kr i månaden skattefritt.

Utöver detta har invandraren rätt till:

259 200 kr i retroaktiv föräldrapenning

12 000 kr i skattefri SFI-bonus.

Invandraren kan själv välja i vilken takt föräldrapengen ska betalas ut. SFI-bonusen betalas ut vid avklarad kurs.

Inget av ovanstående bidrag kan dras in för att invandraren vägrar att ta ett erbjudet jobb.

Jävla skitprat! Säg du lurar oss! Annars är det alltför surt åt mig!  :'(

Its true as the day!

Svensken

Quote from: Elemosina on 16.01.2013, 18:53:31
Hi Svensken,

Have You heard about blog Framtidsland? Now HBL (Hufvudstadsbladet) here in Finland has..
http://hbl.fi/nyheter/2013-01-16/aland-framstalls-som-framtidsland-rasister

QuoteÅland framställs som framtidsland för rasister

Vill ni slippa mångkultur och flyktingar? Flytta till Åland! Så lyder budskapet i bloggen Framtidsland som skrivs av en svensk rasist som flyttat till Åland.

Diskussionen om Åland som ett paradis för svenskar som tröttnat på mångkulturalismen startade på internetforumet Flashback där extrema åsikter inte rensas bort. I september 2009 skrevs inlägget om flytten och samtidigt informerades läsarna om att rasisten startat bloggen Framtidsland.

Sedan dess har Ålands målats upp som mer eller mindre ett paradis i bloggen med få mörkhyade människor, låg inkomstskatt och många lediga jobb.

Dessutom diskuteras möjligheterna att snabbt få hembygdsrätt och köpa sig en villa med sjötomt. Den låga brottsligheten och de låga skatterna hyllas och ålänningarna framställs som ett hjälpsamt folk.
...
http://hbl.fi/nyheter/2013-01-16/aland-framstalls-som-framtidsland-rasister
This was horrible to read, why does she wants to make her island into a Sweden?
The blogger is not racist, he just don't like multiculturalism and even if he would be a racist he is still right in what he writes about Åland.
Would politicians say the same in the rest of Finland? Why are no one thinking about the obvious thought that finns should have more children instead of massive immigration?

Oami

Quote from: Svensken on 16.01.2013, 21:57:17
This was horrible to read, why does she wants to make her island into a Sweden?

Well, I think the social-democrat lantråd* just plays "politically correct", since she is aware of the fact that Åland can pick the best parts in being autonomous and nevertheless a part of a bigger country. This means that the most problematic part of immigrants won't stay in Åland, they'll move on to big cities in the mainland (Finland or Sweden) anyway. Åland is too small to support them in a larger extent. There simply aren't enough subsidised apartments to begin with.

(* I'm not aware how "lantråd" should be translated into English. It's somewhat similar to "statsminister"/ "prime minister" except for the fact that Åland is not an independent state.)

Quote from: Svensken on 16.01.2013, 21:57:17
Would politicians say the same in the rest of Finland?

Many would.
Oula "Oami" Lintula — www.oulalintula.fi

Lisä-Tuomas

Quote from: Svensken on 16.01.2013, 21:50:20

My opinion is that there is no problem having refugees that cost money. When people flee from war and oppression they can not always be of use to the host country. This said there is still no discussion about how we could help as much people as possible. The UN tells us that we could help about 100 people in refugee camps for every single refugee we have in Sweden.(But the one here will have luxurious standard and be able to get brainwashed Swedish girls.)

If you criticise immigration what so ever you are quite sure to get in trouble. If you do it repeatable times your a evil racist.

Put it short: I totally agree, only noting that real refugees are today such a small proportion of all the newcomers that I simply forgot to name that possibility.

Svensken

Quote from: Oami on 17.01.2013, 05:10:59
Quote from: Svensken on 16.01.2013, 21:57:17
This was horrible to read, why does she wants to make her island into a Sweden?

Well, I think the social-democrat lantråd* just plays "politically correct", since she is aware of the fact that Åland can pick the best parts in being autonomous and nevertheless a part of a bigger country. This means that the most problematic part of immigrants won't stay in Åland, they'll move on to big cities in the mainland (Finland or Sweden) anyway. Åland is too small to support them in a larger extent. There simply aren't enough subsidised apartments to begin with.

(* I'm not aware how "lantråd" should be translated into English. It's somewhat similar to "statsminister"/ "prime minister" except for the fact that Åland is not an independent state.)

Quote from: Svensken on 16.01.2013, 21:57:17
Would politicians say the same in the rest of Finland?

Many would.

It's very sickening that ruling people even in Finland are behaving like our crazy leaders. Why is it not okay that at least have one single country in the whole western Europe that has not been overrun by immigrants?

Where is all this self hate coming from?

Svensken

Quote from: Lisä-Tuomas on 17.01.2013, 08:42:27
Quote from: Svensken on 16.01.2013, 21:50:20

My opinion is that there is no problem having refugees that cost money. When people flee from war and oppression they can not always be of use to the host country. This said there is still no discussion about how we could help as much people as possible. The UN tells us that we could help about 100 people in refugee camps for every single refugee we have in Sweden.(But the one here will have luxurious standard and be able to get brainwashed Swedish girls.)

If you criticise immigration what so ever you are quite sure to get in trouble. If you do it repeatable times your a evil racist.

Put it short: I totally agree, only noting that real refugees are today such a small proportion of all the newcomers that I simply forgot to name that possibility.

Nice, we agree :)

Of course the most refugees are liars. I was talking in theoretical terms.

Even if you could get immigrants who works and helps your economy I still think you should be immigration critical. Paying the price of becoming a minority in your own country, I am telling you it's not worth it!

Oami

Quote from: Svensken on 17.01.2013, 09:14:45
It's very sickening that ruling people even in Finland are behaving like our crazy leaders. Why is it not okay that at least have one single country in the whole western Europe that has not been overrun by immigrants?

Where is all this self hate coming from?

I guess it's not hate, it's more like "what do the others think about us".

And then there are politicians who don't know it yet. Finland isn't overrun by immigrants by now, at least most part of it isn't. Sure, they hear warnings from other countries - France, Germany, UK and of course Sweden - but the problem is, these warnings come from wrong people.
Oula "Oami" Lintula — www.oulalintula.fi

Emo

Hi Svensken,

is there anything interesting happening in Sweden? Except princess Estelle having her first birthday party soon?

Talking about parties, our "SD-party" Perussuomalaiset is the most popular political party (23,6%) among finnish men at the moment (according to a new gallup). Among women Perussuomalaiset is the fifth popular party (11,3%). 

Svensken

Quote from: Emo on 01.02.2013, 23:37:51
Hi Svensken,

is there anything interesting happening in Sweden? Except princess Estelle having her first birthday party soon?

Talking about parties, our "SD-party" Perussuomalaiset is the most popular political party (23,6%) among finnish men at the moment (according to a new gallup). Among women Perussuomalaiset is the fifth popular party (11,3%).
Hi Emo!

Hm, lets see... the usual murders, rapes and robberies.
We though have a group that robs people by dressing them selves up like policemen and ask to come in to peoples homes. When the person opens the door the group hits and robes the person.

There has been much discussion about the "internet-hate". "Internet-hate" is when people comment angry things on new papers pages and send e-mails complaining to journalists. The government has looked in to the matter and are thinking of making a new law to make it more easy to shut down immigration critical home pages and to arrest more of the critical people on the net in general.

The Sweden Democrats are  now the third largest parties in many surveys, but all the 90% rest still think mass immigration is wonderful and cant wait to get some more of it.

Our high commander has been ill after he told us that Sweden is practically impossible now to defend because of our non existing army. He got much criticism for stating the obvious and now he is reported to be ill and we will see if he will ever get back to his job.

Muhammed also claimed on the list for popular names. 

Whats about Finland?

Tunkki

Tjänare Svensken, snabb dumm fråga:

Har mondagskvällens Publicistklubben-debatten Mats Dagerlind vs. PK-posse väckt upp reaktioner?

(jag tjuvläser Avpixlat, goddamit hur min rostad svenska har blivit brushed up! :)

Tunkki

Stupid fråga nr. 2:

Sweden has this Hemvärnet-thing.

Do active Hemvärnet-dudes still have swedish gov't issue assault rifle (was it AK-4?) plus ammo at home?

Back in 80's when I worked in Luleå I had 2 active Hemvärnet-dudes working in same company, they had
government issue assault rifles and basic mil.gear at home for rapid deployment.

Mangustin

Hej Svensken!

Det här var en intressant kedja och du har berikat oss på ett positivt sätt! Välkommen till Finland om läget surnar i det gamla&fria  :)
Har lärt mej mycket från dina svar till hompanserna och länkarna du gett oss. Det är några saker jag skulle gärna vet mera om och from now on I will write in english so everyone understands.

1. How is food production doing in Sweden and who is owning land and working in the agrisector? I believe this is crucial to the future of Sweden, especially if the situation should spiral down to economic collapse --> inability to provide for the welfare-dependents. In crisis the only valuable currency is calories, and a Swedish rural population that is willing and able to feed their own could tip the balance in favor of ethnic swedes. Southern Gangstaland may have guns, drugs and whores, but they need to eat too. If Pappa Staten runs out of money they have no other choice than trying to rob the swedish farmers, return to their MENA-countries or to starve. Unless the UN interferes, or the state socialists try to force the food producers to give their yields up. What would happen in such a scenario, if there is economic disaster and/or internal conflict?

Is hunting still popular in rural Sweden and is it as common to own guns as in Finland?

2. What is the attitude in Sweden towards non-MENA or third world immigrants, like educated Indians and East Asians? Is there a general de-humanizing and contempt towards swedish men with asian (especially thai) wives, like here? My own, finnish experience is that the multikult-sector is indifferent-to-mildly-antagonistic towards asians, because asians don't need their help, and thus are not productive material for the immigration industry. They are productive individuals.

3. I suppose higher education has also embraced feminism and multiculture? Do you also have %goals at universities for a more diverse student body? Do you have quotas or other positive discrimination to help minorities? How are exchange students chosen to Swedish institutions? Does positive discrimination continue above graduate level or does the value of scientific research weigh more in choosing M.Sc's to doctoral programs?

Questions 2&3 are somewhat connected, as different academic faculties are equally obsessed over diversity, the diversity they attract is quite different: Humanities tend to get european Erasmus-students, while Indian and Chinese students go for science and economics. Third worlders are overrepresented at wannabe-universities, that in Finland are called "University of Applied Science", that used to be nursing schools, engineering schools and other honest institutions preparing youth with useful trades. Not anymore. Our education system exists to indoctrinate students with redgreen multiculturalist attitudes and to provide positions for humanities graduates who would be unable to earn similar wages in a market economy.

Svensken

Quote from: Tunkki on 14.02.2013, 20:28:19
Stupid fråga nr. 2:

Sweden has this Hemvärnet-thing.

Do active Hemvärnet-dudes still have swedish gov't issue assault rifle (was it AK-4?) plus ammo at home?

Back in 80's when I worked in Luleå I had 2 active Hemvärnet-dudes working in same company, they had
government issue assault rifles and basic mil.gear at home for rapid deployment.

The debate in Publicistklubben was a very new thing for us Sweds. We are not used to have more than one opinion in a debate. I am not joking, until Sweden Democrates got in to the parliament very few talked to people critical to immigration and they were never let on a known media like SVT. I saw the whole debate and I was very impressed that it could actually take place. Many people who asked question said that "Why do you let people who think different have a say in this debate?". Swedish democracy is as democratic as in "Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea"(North Korea).

The Hemvärnet is the swedish army basicly. The rest is now scraped away or dying for heroin and American geopolitics in Afghanistan. Hemvärnet is though now not so loose with guns. You cant store your gun at home if it's not plugged and the key is in a central place. The standard AK-4 is still the weapon of choice.  They do though have basic military equipment at home.

Svensken

Quote from: Mangustin on 15.02.2013, 16:34:27
Hej Svensken!

Det här var en intressant kedja och du har berikat oss på ett positivt sätt! Välkommen till Finland om läget surnar i det gamla&fria  :)
Har lärt mej mycket från dina svar till hompanserna och länkarna du gett oss. Det är några saker jag skulle gärna vet mera om och from now on I will write in english so everyone understands.

1. How is food production doing in Sweden and who is owning land and working in the agrisector? I believe this is crucial to the future of Sweden, especially if the situation should spiral down to economic collapse --> inability to provide for the welfare-dependents. In crisis the only valuable currency is calories, and a Swedish rural population that is willing and able to feed their own could tip the balance in favor of ethnic swedes. Southern Gangstaland may have guns, drugs and whores, but they need to eat too. If Pappa Staten runs out of money they have no other choice than trying to rob the swedish farmers, return to their MENA-countries or to starve. Unless the UN interferes, or the state socialists try to force the food producers to give their yields up. What would happen in such a scenario, if there is economic disaster and/or internal conflict?

Is hunting still popular in rural Sweden and is it as common to own guns as in Finland?

2. What is the attitude in Sweden towards non-MENA or third world immigrants, like educated Indians and East Asians? Is there a general de-humanizing and contempt towards swedish men with asian (especially thai) wives, like here? My own, finnish experience is that the multikult-sector is indifferent-to-mildly-antagonistic towards asians, because asians don't need their help, and thus are not productive material for the immigration industry. They are productive individuals.

3. I suppose higher education has also embraced feminism and multiculture? Do you also have %goals at universities for a more diverse student body? Do you have quotas or other positive discrimination to help minorities? How are exchange students chosen to Swedish institutions? Does positive discrimination continue above graduate level or does the value of scientific research weigh more in choosing M.Sc's to doctoral programs?

Questions 2&3 are somewhat connected, as different academic faculties are equally obsessed over diversity, the diversity they attract is quite different: Humanities tend to get european Erasmus-students, while Indian and Chinese students go for science and economics. Third worlders are overrepresented at wannabe-universities, that in Finland are called "University of Applied Science", that used to be nursing schools, engineering schools and other honest institutions preparing youth with useful trades. Not anymore. Our education system exists to indoctrinate students with redgreen multiculturalist attitudes and to provide positions for humanities graduates who would be unable to earn similar wages in a market economy.

1. Sweden produce less than half it's food needs. Sweden still owns a lot of capital than could be sold off and if you strip the public sector the state could still have money to feed the gangsters.

2. I would say that those immigrants are seen very positively by people in general. Immigrants that kills, rapes and robs are loved in general so immigrants that are smart and actually produce things are of course liked even more.
Men who have thai-wifes are seen as losers. The state has even a special course for those brides to learn them their rights in Sweden. Which man in their right mind would get a thai-bride when you can get a highly educated, very cultural and photo model-looking russian wife? ;)

3. Yes, the higher education is totally politicly indoctrinated. All the student materials always has foreigners in them. If there would be to little of them the information would be banned for sure. I don't know about courses in general but the police have very out spoken quotas that favour immigrants, women and homosexual/transsexual men.

Your experience about foreign student correlate directly with my experiences.

I am very sad to hear that your higher education are full of people who hates you too, happily for you all our education, politics and media are full of these people. They hate us so very much indeed.   

-PPT-

feminism combined with the attraction often by the same feminists towards islam and mass-immigration is one puzzle which never ceases to amaze me.

MW

Quote from: -PPT- on 16.02.2013, 01:33:52
feminism combined with the attraction often by the same feminists towards islam and mass-immigration is one puzzle which never ceases to amaze me.

In bed with Madonna. No matter how much you dislike each other, the one you hate more is worth to join efforts.

For now.

Antti Moisander

Hi Svensken.

How is the representatives of sverigedemokraterna, nationaldemokraterna and sverikernas parti treated in election depates? If they even get to those.

How are those three parties portrayed by swedish media and how is media describing high rise of the sverigedemokraterna on polls?
Kuntavaalit Kerava | Aluevaalit Vantaa-Kerava

https://www.anttimoisander.fi/

Mangustin

Quote from: Svensken on 15.02.2013, 21:08:42
Which man in their right mind would get a thai-bride when you can get a highly educated, very cultural and photo model-looking russian wife? ;)

Off topic: I'd get myself a sweet christian Filipina if I was male. Russian chicks are too high-maintenance, don't age well and they tend to start seeking for an upgrade once they have left Russia with their international romance. But to each their own, as long as swedish feminists stay single! This was linked to another discussion at this forum:
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/01/25/scandnavian-men-leaving-feminists-to-themselves

I don't mean to be naggy, but what about the (legal) gun situation in Sweden? Anyone below nobility still into hunting? If the security situation is as bad as it seems, then commoners should be into acquiring other means of self-defense, methinks?

Hmm and I suppose swedish girls are all into krav maga, MMA and jiu-jutsu? With all the rape and murder going on...


Svensken

Quote from: Antti Moisander on 16.02.2013, 05:40:24
Hi Svensken.

How is the representatives of sverigedemokraterna, nationaldemokraterna and sverikernas parti treated in election depates? If they even get to those.

How are those three parties portrayed by swedish media and how is media describing high rise of the sverigedemokraterna on polls?

In the debates Sverigedemokraterna, who are the only real party of the three, are seen more and more. But almost always they are being bullied some how or the media spend very big amounts on digging and placing things on them. The party though has a lot of idiots because its very unsafe to have anything to do with the Sverigedemokraterna. So mainly people who have nothing to lose have been the people joining.

Nationaldemokraterna are not described at all because they almost do not exist. Svenkarnas parti are described as neo-nazis which they simply are. Sverigedemokraterna are in a nutshell described as evil and low educated people who wants poor children to die and who in secret worship Hitler.

I have hears very little exploitations for the rise in polls.

Svensken

Quote from: Mangustin on 16.02.2013, 19:56:04
Quote from: Svensken on 15.02.2013, 21:08:42
Which man in their right mind would get a thai-bride when you can get a highly educated, very cultural and photo model-looking russian wife? ;)

Off topic: I'd get myself a sweet christian Filipina if I was male. Russian chicks are too high-maintenance, don't age well and they tend to start seeking for an upgrade once they have left Russia with their international romance. But to each their own, as long as swedish feminists stay single! This was linked to another discussion at this forum:
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/01/25/scandnavian-men-leaving-feminists-to-themselves

I don't mean to be naggy, but what about the (legal) gun situation in Sweden? Anyone below nobility still into hunting? If the security situation is as bad as it seems, then commoners should be into acquiring other means of self-defense, methinks?

Hmm and I suppose swedish girls are all into krav maga, MMA and jiu-jutsu? With all the rape and murder going on...

Nice comments on the Russian-bride thing ;)

Sorry for not answering about hunting. We have a lot of hunters in Sweden. If you are a hunter or if you are practising shooting as a sport you can own a gun or rifle.

No, very few women can fight. They are always told that the most rapes are made by sweds in their families. The rapes out side are only racist to mention ;)

Svensken

Quote from: Svensken on 16.02.2013, 23:00:02
Quote from: Mangustin on 16.02.2013, 19:56:04
Quote from: Svensken on 15.02.2013, 21:08:42
Which man in their right mind would get a thai-bride when you can get a highly educated, very cultural and photo model-looking russian wife? ;)

Off topic: I'd get myself a sweet christian Filipina if I was male. Russian chicks are too high-maintenance, don't age well and they tend to start seeking for an upgrade once they have left Russia with their international romance. But to each their own, as long as swedish feminists stay single! This was linked to another discussion at this forum:
http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/01/25/scandnavian-men-leaving-feminists-to-themselves

I don't mean to be naggy, but what about the (legal) gun situation in Sweden? Anyone below nobility still into hunting? If the security situation is as bad as it seems, then commoners should be into acquiring other means of self-defense, methinks?

Hmm and I suppose swedish girls are all into krav maga, MMA and jiu-jutsu? With all the rape and murder going on...

Nice comments on the Russian-bride thing ;)

Sorry for not answering about hunting. We have a lot of hunters in Sweden. If you are a hunter or if you are practising shooting as a sport you can own a gun or rifle.

How is the legal situation in Finland, when can you own guns?

No, very few women can fight. They are always told that the most rapes are made by sweds in their families. The rapes out side are only racist to mention ;)

Nuivettunut Han-nenetsi

Quote from: Svensken on 15.02.2013, 21:08:42
Which man in their right mind would get a thai-bride when you can get a highly educated, very cultural and photo model-looking russian wife? ;)

Could the distance to mother-in-law be the decisive factor, anyone ??  ;D
Toksinen soijamaskuliini

nurkkakuntalainen

Hi, Svensken!

Do you know something about the far right and far left in Sweden? I know that there's, for example, leftist AFA and the nazi Svenska Motståndsrörelsen. But what do you think in general, which is worse or more violent or powerful: the leftist or the right-wing extremists?

BTW. The concept of an "Anti-AFA" that resists violent far-leftists sounds funny, but in reality the organization seems quite extremist and nazi.
Ghettoutuminen parempi kuin assimilaatio. Paluumuutto parempi kuin ghettoutuminen.
Kotiutus kotoutuksen tilalle!
Eroa valtiosta

Svensken

Quote from: nurkkakuntalainen on 16.02.2013, 23:35:10
Hi, Svensken!

Do you know something about the far right and far left in Sweden? I know that there's, for example, leftist AFA and the nazi Svenska Motståndsrörelsen. But what do you think in general, which is worse or more violent or powerful: the leftist or the right-wing extremists?

BTW. The concept of an "Anti-AFA" that resists violent far-leftists sounds funny, but in reality the organization seems quite extremist and nazi.

The far left and the far right have in huge parts collapsed in Sweden. The far left have today merged with the liberals in immigration, radical-feminism and homostruggle. I don't know if the "left" of today in Sweden should at all be called left. They are some kind of anti-intellecutal, liberal humanists.

The far right used to be quite strong and they were constantly getting new people because of the extreme terror you received from society if you criticised immigration. But now whit Sverigedemokraterna people who dislike immigration can join and not get as hated as they used to be. To become nazi today you are mentally ill or a agent-provocatuer.

Svenska motståndsrörelsen normally only use violence when they are attacked first, like when their selling their newspapers etc. The far left almost never does anything publicly that could be attacked so they are usually the attacker. But after this incident five years ago with SMR stabbing a AFA-person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6eMFkFSF1w the attacks against SMR has gone to almost nothing.

Antti Moisander

#504
Quote from: Svensken on 17.02.2013, 11:05:48Svenska motståndsrörelsen normally only use violence when they are attacked first, like when their selling their newspapers etc.

Thats same here with Finnish Resistance Movement.

"Anti-Antifa" sounds nice that way if they would be people that stop Antifa when they attack someone. Antifa can't decide who can use freedom of speech and who can not.

Svensken i would ask you that does this happen every time when sverigedemokraterna is giving a speech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrlGgXLXHI

And are those two people who stand by the table hosts or what? Darker woman is kinda aggressive...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyuAAUkouHw
Kuntavaalit Kerava | Aluevaalit Vantaa-Kerava

https://www.anttimoisander.fi/

-PPT-

Remind me again how large a proportion of the Swedish social security-costs are directly related to immigration. It is over half IIRC and not even in Sweden more than half of the population are immigrants.

Here in Finland our former minister in charge of immigration-affairs was pushed to reveal an estimate as to how much does mass-immigration cost to Finland. She refused to answer by saying that it is impossible to calculate. Other people say that talking about costs of immigration is demeaning because we are talking about human-beings. Fair enough but at the same time we know exactly to the last cent how much money we spend on pensioners, students, unemployed etc.


latrom

What will the end game be in your opinion Svensken? Some kind of Jugoslavia/Balkanisation or an Islamic state with the remaining men accepting Islam and the women gladly accepting their liberation in the sultan's harem? Or a third option where the State uses dictatorial measures to keep things in order? Do the Swedes have any balls left?

Svensken

Quote from: Antti Moisander on 17.02.2013, 14:48:24
Quote from: Svensken on 17.02.2013, 11:05:48Svenska motståndsrörelsen normally only use violence when they are attacked first, like when their selling their newspapers etc.

Thats same here with Finnish Resistance Movement.

"Anti-Antifa" sounds nice that way if they would be people that stop Antifa when they attack someone. Antifa can't decide who can use freedom of speech and who can not.

Svensken i would ask you that does this happen every time when sverigedemokraterna is giving a speech?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjrlGgXLXHI

And are those two people who stand by the table hosts or what? Darker woman is kinda agressive...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyuAAUkouHw

Yes it's the norm when SD has public meetings.

It's so funny you found this true gem of swedish debates. The two people at the table are just more people to talk down the two guests who think different from the PK-norm. I just love this debate, so many wonderful parts :D

I actually have inside information in this debate because people in the audience and "Hanna" who was the boss of the show actually cried after the air because she had not defeated the evil people on air.

Svensken

Quote from: -PPT- on 17.02.2013, 18:59:18
Remind me again how large a proportion of the Swedish social security-costs are directly related to immigration. It is over half IIRC and not even in Sweden more than half of the population are immigrants.

Here in Finland our former minister in charge of immigration-affairs was pushed to reveal an estimate as to how much does mass-immigration cost to Finland. She refused to answer by saying that it is impossible to calculate. Other people say that talking about costs of immigration is demeaning because we are talking about human-beings. Fair enough but at the same time we know exactly to the last cent how much money we spend on pensioners, students, unemployed etc.

We don't know how much they cost, but their costs far more than the 20-30% that they constitute of the population. Maybe 60-80%, I am just making a good guess.

You see, the same things are told here."you can't calculate on immigration because they are human beings." This can be interpreted in two ways:

THEY are human beings, you are though not. Students, children and pensioners are ethnic sweds or finns and you are all white. So you have no human value and we calculate all we want.

Or THEY are actually humans, I know many of them rape, kill, rob, burn, smell and scream crazy things at random times. I know it's hard to understand this, but they are actually human like us and they should not be calculated on.(This interpretation is most unlikely because I don't think they see us as humans.)

Svensken

Quote from: latrom on 17.02.2013, 19:22:06
What will the end game be in your opinion Svensken? Some kind of Jugoslavia/Balkanisation or an Islamic state with the remaining men accepting Islam and the women gladly accepting their liberation in the sultan's harem? Or a third option where the State uses dictatorial measures to keep things in order? Do the Swedes have any balls left?

They balls of Sweden is getting cut away each year by a number of things. So no, there are very little balls if any at all.

I think the end game will be like this: Gangsterland, watch "Snabba cash 1 and 2" and multiply it with the film "Troopa de elite" but subtract the elite force. Then add some things from the refugee camp in "Children of men" and you have a very good view of the coming situation.

In this situation organised Islam will actually look like a good thing ;)

Sweds are so incredibly bad and Sweden is mere a joke, please don't make Finland into a Sweden...