Ask Svensken

[AstaTTT]

^ You follow the rules much better than we do! 

I left the membership of the Finnish evangelic-lutheran church last year because they have a very welcoming attitude towards islam among bishops and especially in southern Finland. How is it in Sweden? Are muslims the "brothers" of Christian church, as it seems to be the case here?

[Lemmy]

It's not white males in general who are feed up, but those who are fed up are mainly young white males.

I thought they were selling ass on Kungsgatan?

I did not believe discussions about homosexuals were allowed?

Only if theres plans to release gaygas!

Really, what do the "angry young men" do in Sweden? I've not noticed any news regarding them?  Back in the day they were driving "epa-traktor" and destined to become raggare... these days...  

[Svensken]

^ You follow the rules much better than we do! 

I left the membership of the Finnish evangelic-lutheran church last year because they have a very welcoming attitude towards islam among bishops and especially in southern Finland. How is it in Sweden? Are muslims the "brothers" of Christian church, as it seems to be the case here?

The Swedish church is of course much more radical.
The Swedish Evangelic-Lutheran church(which only calls it self "Svenska kyrkan") have actually hired and pay the cost of a muslim Imam in Stockholm. They do not just love islam, they actually promote it.http://www.kyrkanstidning.se/nyhet/imam-far-jobb-i-kyrkan

They have many years now funded, helped and participated in pride parades all over the country and some years ago they had this exhibition in their most holy of churches. (http://www.ohlson.se/utstallningar_ecce.htm)

Others from that the church are now working for more immigration and have many times openly taken a firm stand for massive immigration and hate against any one who opposes.

[siviilitarkkailija]

angry young men" do in Sweden? I've not noticed any news regarding them?  Back in the day they were driving "epa-traktor" and destined to become raggare... these days... 

I heard first in line made a sudden stop and guy behind reared him only to be reared too who was later reared...they are still wondering if it is worth while to leave the site.

But good food tips and beer costs are welcomed. I remember one trip in Swedistan and buying a pack of utter crap called folköl. Yikes. The moment after first taste told me Sweden is gone. If for no other reason, then because of crappy beer. Good beer is basic human right.

[Svensken]

It's not white males in general who are feed up, but those who are fed up are mainly young white males.

I thought they were selling ass on Kungsgatan?

I did not believe discussions about homosexuals were allowed?

Only if theres plans to release gaygas!

Really, what do the "angry young men" do in Sweden? I've not noticed any news regarding them?  Back in the day they were driving "epa-traktor" and destined to become raggare... these days...

They are angry on the internet and they join and vote for SD or more radical parties and groups. (http://mobil.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article15870503.ab;jsessionid=767762F26C866B6324481655C0F680A7)

[Lemmy]

They are angry on the internet and they join and vote for SD or more radical parties and groups. (http://mobil.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article15870503.ab;jsessionid=767762F26C866B6324481655C0F680A7)

But thats just the communist Expo bla-bla-bla we're not interested in.

[Ilkka]

They are angry on the internet and they join and vote for SD or more radical parties and groups. (http://mobil.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article15870503.ab;jsessionid=767762F26C866B6324481655C0F680A7)

But thats just the communist Expo bla-bla-bla we're not interested in.

Why can't you behave? Hobby?

[AstaTTT]

The Swedish Evangelic-Lutheran church(which only calls it self "Svenska kyrkan") have actually hired and pay the cost of a muslim Imam in Stockholm. They do not just love islam, they actually promote it.

I read the article and had an instant brain meltdown.

Varför ska just kyrkan anställa en imam?
– Kyrkan måste sträcka ut en hand och hjälpa goda krafter, och hjälpa unga hitta sig själva så att de inte hamnar i extremism. Sven­­ska kyrkan har fortfarande makt och pengar att göra det här, säger Maria Kjellsdotter Ryding­er.

One of the members of parliament actually suggested sharia as a legal alternative for Muslems in Finland. Good grief, this world! 

[Svensken]

They are angry on the internet and they join and vote for SD or more radical parties and groups. (http://mobil.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article15870503.ab;jsessionid=767762F26C866B6324481655C0F680A7)

But thats just the communist Expo bla-bla-bla we're not interested in.

The article is from Aftonbladet written by a Bengt Westeberg who responsible for a newly publicised governmental report named: "Främlingsfienden inom oss". Most things in Sweden might sound like Expo, but not all are directly connected to them.

[Lemmy]

They are angry on the internet and they join and vote for SD or more radical parties and groups. (http://mobil.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article15870503.ab;jsessionid=767762F26C866B6324481655C0F680A7)

But thats just the communist Expo bla-bla-bla we're not interested in.

The article is from Aftonbladet written by a Bengt Westeberg who responsible for a newly publicised governmental report named: "Främlingsfienden inom oss". Most things in Sweden might sound like Expo, but not all are directly connected to them.

I'm still not interested in what these deranged people write in fishwrappers. Ok, so the young men sit at home and write in the internet, fine, so they can read. Besides playstation and xbox what is "the thing" to do? Does an average 16-18 year old still want to become a police or fireman, do they want to go to study medicine, law or computers (or is that  reserved for those whose pappa has little too much money), or do even they say "fuck it" and take a backpack and go investigate the hot nights of Rio (as you said its fashionable to travel). Is there a future in some small town if you want to be a farmer or go work at the sawmill? If you take up a sport, say Ice Hockey, does it require too much from the parents to be for everybody? Or is it like in Finland some of the 16-18 year olds start to feel its no use doing anything or studying as theres no jobs and you can live better off the government handout? Theres a big concern of this group as it is - mostly young men - and they seem to drop under the radar.

[Roope]

The article is from Aftonbladet written by a Bengt Westeberg who responsible for a newly publicised governmental report named: "Främlingsfienden inom oss". Most things in Sweden might sound like Expo, but not all are directly connected to them.

Actually almost everything seems to be somehow connected to Expo. For instance that report was partly written by Lisa Bjurwald who worked several years for Expo. Mona Sahlin is member of Expo board. Labor unions even use Expo lecturers to coach their members how to argue about immigration and SD in a proper PC way.

2012-03-25 Ruotsi: Ammattiliitto kouluttaa 150 000 väittelemään maahanmuutosta

[Svensken]

They are angry on the internet and they join and vote for SD or more radical parties and groups. (http://mobil.aftonbladet.se/kultur/article15870503.ab;jsessionid=767762F26C866B6324481655C0F680A7)

But thats just the communist Expo bla-bla-bla we're not interested in.

The article is from Aftonbladet written by a Bengt Westeberg who responsible for a newly publicised governmental report named: "Främlingsfienden inom oss". Most things in Sweden might sound like Expo, but not all are directly connected to them.

I'm still not interested in what these deranged people write in fishwrappers. Ok, so the young men sit at home and write in the internet, fine, so they can read. Besides playstation and xbox what is "the thing" to do? Does an average 16-18 year old still want to become a police or fireman, do they want to go to study medicine, law or computers (or is that  reserved for those whose pappa has little too much money), or do even they say "fuck it" and take a backpack and go investigate the hot nights of Rio (as you said its fashionable to travel). Is there a future in some small town if you want to be a farmer or go work at the sawmill? If you take up a sport, say Ice Hockey, does it require too much from the parents to be for everybody? Or is it like in Finland some of the 16-18 year olds start to feel its no use doing anything or studying as theres no jobs and you can live better off the government handout? Theres a big concern of this group as it is - mostly young men - and they seem to drop under the radar.

I think the tendency is to give up more and more. There are of course all kind of young men but the tendency I would say is to give up, do drugs don't care. Like the things you're telling from the small villages in Finland

[Svensken]

The article is from Aftonbladet written by a Bengt Westeberg who responsible for a newly publicised governmental report named: "Främlingsfienden inom oss". Most things in Sweden might sound like Expo, but not all are directly connected to them.

Actually almost everything seems to be somehow connected to Expo. For instance that report was partly written by Lisa Bjurwald who worked several years for Expo. Mona Sahlin is member of Expo board. Labor unions even use Expo lecturers to coach their members how to argue about immigration and SD in a proper PC way.

2012-03-25 Ruotsi: Ammattiliitto kouluttaa 150 000 väittelemään maahanmuutosta

You are all to right. It's better that you say it than me. I don't want to sound to nuts. I have already said that my homeland will go under without a real fight. Saying that a semi-state funded organisation that have ties to the swedish secret service have connections to the majority of powerful media people and politicians. This is a to bizarre picture to paint just out of the blue but it is the situation in Sweden.

Yes, they are used to learn students and children about "racism" and how to fight the ones who think otherwise. The swedish schools focus very much of their resources on preaching the correct political thinking in all the subjects where it is possible.

When I discuss these things with you the picture of Sweden becomes even more clear. It's not that often I tell and explain for outsiders just how sick and deranged my country really is. It's like living in a family with a crazy father who is drunk all the time and screams, hits and destroys things. Its first when you get to see the mess from an outside you really get just how bad and wrong the whole situation is.

[-PPT-]

I'm not that familiar with Sweden but I know a lot about Denmark and Norway and those countries also have high immigration-populations and in both countries there has been a lot of discussion that even in cities where most immigrants live, it is quite common that white Norwegians/Danes only hang out with other white Norwegians/Danes. It has been considered as a major problem from the perspective of the multiculti-industry that people can still choose who they want to be friends with and immigrants from certain countries and the indigenous population, as they have really nothing in common with each other, do not feel any ned to be each other's friends.

[elukka]

^ You follow the rules much better than we do! 

I left the membership of the Finnish evangelic-lutheran church last year because they have a very welcoming attitude towards islam among bishops and especially in southern Finland. How is it in Sweden? Are muslims the "brothers" of Christian church, as it seems to be the case here?

The Swedish church is of course much more radical.
The Swedish Evangelic-Lutheran church(which only calls it self "Svenska kyrkan") have actually hired and pay the cost of a muslim Imam in Stockholm. They do not just love islam, they actually promote it.http://www.kyrkanstidning.se/nyhet/imam-far-jobb-i-kyrkan

They have many years now funded, helped and participated in pride parades all over the country and some years ago they had this exhibition in their most holy of churches. (http://www.ohlson.se/utstallningar_ecce.htm)

Others from that the church are now working for more immigration and have many times openly taken a firm stand for massive immigration and hate against any one who opposes.

Martin Luther would turn in his coffein because of swedish "Lutheran" Church....

[AstaTTT]

I might be biased, but all the young men I know are studying, going to army or working between studies. I live in a village near Oulu and see the local youth very positively (with a few exceptions which is only natural). I do not see the future ahead of us very dark - especially if we don't give up. I trust the young people. 

It is our decision-makers that I don't trust at all...
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Forgot to mention that the area I live in is conservative, many people here are laestadians: big families, strong values and a cautious approach to islam... in fact, the last time I saw a person recognisably immigrant in Jääli was last summer.

[Svensken]

The Swedish Evangelic-Lutheran church(which only calls it self "Svenska kyrkan") have actually hired and pay the cost of a muslim Imam in Stockholm. They do not just love islam, they actually promote it.

I read the article and had an instant brain meltdown.

Varför ska just kyrkan anställa en imam?
– Kyrkan måste sträcka ut en hand och hjälpa goda krafter, och hjälpa unga hitta sig själva så att de inte hamnar i extremism. Sven­­ska kyrkan har fortfarande makt och pengar att göra det här, säger Maria Kjellsdotter Ryding­er.

One of the members of parliament actually suggested sharia as a legal alternative for Muslems in Finland. Good grief, this world! 

I fully sympathise with you, the swedish church is all other than christian. Now days it's actually a radical left-wing organisation and they are not even trying to hide it. 

[chacha2]

Where in Finland does your relatives live?
Why is Swedish peoples party so pro mass immigration?

Most of them live in the region of Vasa in Österbotten.

In 2009 SFP came up with the 'Kasnäs- manifesto', a plan how to make the party grow its support. They were hoping to more than double it and reach a ten percent voter support:

The Kasnäs-manifesto

Svenska folkpartiet - Suomen ruotsalainen kansanpuolue

Thesis 1
We are the liberal party of Finland, with a strong Nordic and European dimension. Our liberalism builds on respect for humankind, the freedoms and rights of individuals, gender equality, and social and global responsibility.

Thesis 2
We support welfare that is built on humanity and solidarity and that meets the need for secure and individual choices. We emphasize the responsibility of individuals for themselves and for others. Prosperity is created in interplay between public services, the third sector, active citizens, and private initiatives.

Thesis 3
Language is a resource. Bilingualism is a national factor of success that requires a robust knowledge of swedish. Bilingualism also has to be combined with a respect for all mother tongues and all cultures in Finland. We strive for society to guarantee functioning services in both national languages – Swedish and Finnish. We are deeply committed to the Åland Islands and to defending their autonomy.

Thesis 4
We are a party of cultures and welcome immigration to our country – not because it is easy, but because we want to. Successful integration enables new citizens to become a natural part of society, the labour market, and the political life of Finland.

Thesis 5
We are the party for education and culture. We want to invest in education, because a skilled population constitutes the basis for prosperity and international competitiveness. Cultural heritage and a changeable milieu create a vibrant culture. The Finland of tomorrow is built on this foundation.

Thesis 6
We are the party for entrepreneurs, striving to improve the conditions for entrepreneurship in our country. This creates well-being and increased employment. Finland needs flourishing and profitable businesses.

Thesis 7
We take responsibility for our local environment and for the Baltic Sea. We want to solve the global environment problems and create a cleaner world. The solutions are found in environmental awareness, innovations, and ecological economy. Our future is to develop sustainably.

Thesis 8
We are a political citizens' movement. The prosperous Finland needs its national movements. Voluntary commitment creates community and quality of life. Culture, sports, local activities, and associations strengthen identity and serve an important purpose in our society. There must be room and time for voluntary activities in life.

Thesis 9
We are the party for the countryside as well as cities. Prospering primary industries and functioning societal services create the basis for a thriving countryside. In the ever more urbanized world in which we live the services that society provides need to give more consideration to individual needs. The Finland of tomorrow needs countryside and archipelago as well as towns and cities.

Thesis 10
We shall be a growing party with a clear vision that forms the Finland of tomorrow and assumes responsibility for it. We shall with open minds seek new ways of working to reach our goals. By being proactive we can be more in favour and less against.


If SPP can fullfill meet these theses we can becoma a ten percent party. Kasnäs is only the beginning of the process.

http://sfp.fi/sv/start/kasnas/kaslish/

HELSINGFORS. Den framtidskonferens som Svenska Folkpartiet höll i Kasnäs i helgen resulterade bland annat i ett nytt manifest, Kasnäsmanifestet. Manifestet innehåller tio teser för hur SFP ska växa som parti.
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SFP ser tre grupper av potentiella nya väljare: Medlemmar av tvåspråkiga familjer, nyfinländare samt väljare som oberoende av språk är intresserade av det liberala budskapet.

http://www.vasabladet.fi/story.aspx?storyID=49832

This strategy has not been working, the support has remained firmly under five percent.
It also seems as although Swedish-speaking Finns welcome foreigners  in theory, they feel that in their own village and city the number of foreigners is sufficient. They have been called hypocritical due to this, according to this article (and also by me):

I teorin vill de svenskspråkiga gärna underlätta invandring, men när det kommer till den egna byn eller staden är inställningen mindre välkomnande. En stor del anser att vi redan nått lämplig invandrartäthet i hemknutarna.

Gärna invandrare alltså - men inte på min bakgård.

Den här diskrepansen mellan teori och verklighet har satt igång en livlig debatt på nätet om hycklande finlanssvenskar. Förmodligen finns samma glapp mellan den vi vill vara och den vi är också hos majoritetsbefolkningen, men just den här frågan har inte alls utretts på nationellt plan.

http://hbl.fi/opinion/ledare/2009-10-17/invandrare-ocksa-pa-var-bakgard

Edit; A couple of Capital letters were missing..

[Emo]

... the swedish church is all other than christian. Now days it's actually a radical left-wing organisation and they are not even trying to hide it.

It is true what you say about Svenka Kyrkan, and it is the same also with Finnish Lutheran Church, and because of that   I am not a member of our Finnish Lutheran Church anymore. I still believe in Jesus, but the lutheran liberal  church is not for me.

[AstaTTT]

I fully sympathise with you, the swedish church is all other than christian. Now days it's actually a radical left-wing organisation and they are not even trying to hide it.

The less tax-paying members they have, the less power they will hold. In Finland, you pay tax to the church if you are a member. Also companies have to pay to the church through yhteisövero (I don't know what it is in Swedish, something like communal tax in English).

I just checked and it seems that the evangelic-lutheran church anticipates to get even more tax through this yhteisövero next year:
http://sakasti.evl.fi/sakasti.nsf/sp?open&cid=Content22862F

In my opinion, our church has forgotten its values and its main purpose: to guide, help and serve its members. It has become a political institution that licks any butt to retain its power.
(Sorry for the ugly expression but that's how I feel.)

[elukka]

In my opinion, our church has forgotten its values and its main purpose: to guide, help and serve its members. It has become a political institution that licks any butt to retain its power.
(Sorry for the ugly expression but that's how I feel.)

The more cultural-marxists in church in gharge the more it goes to the hell.
The main job in church is gospel.To guide, help and serve its members comes after that.

[AstaTTT]

The main job in church is gospel.To guide, help and serve its members comes after that.

I thought that the "guide" part was the gospel. But then again, I'm currently a churchless refugee, what do I know. 

Even if kekkeruusi is going to decapitate me for this: I think the church is one tool in preventing islam from gaining ground in Finland (and Sweden). What do we do when the bishops (Irma Askola in the front) feel honoured when given the chance to look at islamic butts in prayer whilst (as a bishop) made sit at the back of the islamic prayer room?

If I were born to islam, my genitals would probably be mutilated, I would probably have to wear a burqha, and I would not be allowed to think for myself. I cannot understand what goes on in the minds of people that bow to islam in the civilized European countries, including Sweden and Finland.

[Eino P. Keravalta]

I cannot understand what goes on in the minds of people that bow to islam in the civilized European countries, including Sweden and Finland.

I believe that the western love of islam is a bizarre form of self hate.

There are people who unconsciously detect the vast disparity between their own abilities and all the goodness and advancement of western society and so they feel very inferior which could turn to pathological self hate which in turn reflects as hate towards western society and it's values. The unconscious remedy is to hate all things western and adore every value system and culture which opposes our own culture. So promoting as exotic beliefs as possible is a kind of psychological mechanism aimed for survival of the ego and that trait implicates an urge to destroy all things western although this need and will to create havoc is unconscious. So people who feel inferior tend to promote multiculturalism. They are full of hate and this is part of the reason why they see "hate" everywhere themselves excluded: they mirror and reflect their own self hate to the surrounding society and it's bulding blocks, values.

[Svensken]

^ You follow the rules much better than we do! 

I left the membership of the Finnish evangelic-lutheran church last year because they have a very welcoming attitude towards islam among bishops and especially in southern Finland. How is it in Sweden? Are muslims the "brothers" of Christian church, as it seems to be the case here?

The Swedish church is of course much more radical.
The Swedish Evangelic-Lutheran church(which only calls it self "Svenska kyrkan") have actually hired and pay the cost of a muslim Imam in Stockholm. They do not just love islam, they actually promote it.http://www.kyrkanstidning.se/nyhet/imam-far-jobb-i-kyrkan

They have many years now funded, helped and participated in pride parades all over the country and some years ago they had this exhibition in their most holy of churches. (http://www.ohlson.se/utstallningar_ecce.htm)

Others from that the church are now working for more immigration and have many times openly taken a firm stand for massive immigration and hate against any one who opposes.

Martin Luther would turn in his coffein because of swedish "Lutheran" Church....

They should state their real political line:
"Svenska kyrkan your marxist-queerist-antiswedish and PC guide to life!"

[Svensken]

I'm not that familiar with Sweden but I know a lot about Denmark and Norway and those countries also have high immigration-populations and in both countries there has been a lot of discussion that even in cities where most immigrants live, it is quite common that white Norwegians/Danes only hang out with other white Norwegians/Danes. It has been considered as a major problem from the perspective of the multiculti-industry that people can still choose who they want to be friends with and immigrants from certain countries and the indigenous population, as they have really nothing in common with each other, do not feel any ned to be each other's friends.

Very few sweds want to live close to or hangs out with immigrants, this is one of the best argument against multiculturalism.

[Ruckafella]

I cannot understand what goes on in the minds of people that bow to islam in the civilized European countries, including Sweden and Finland.

I believe that the western love of islam is a bizarre form of self hate.

There are people who unconsciously detect the vast disparity between their own abilities and all the goodness and advancement of western society and so they feel very inferior which could turn to pathological self hate which in turn reflects as hate towards western society and it's values. The unconscious remedy is to hate all things western and adore every value system and culture which opposes our own culture. So promoting as exotic beliefs as possible is a kind of psychological mechanism aimed for survival of the ego and that trait implicates an urge to destroy all things western although this need and will to create havoc is unconscious. So people who feel inferior tend to promote multiculturalism. They are full of hate and this is part of the reason why they see "hate" everywhere themselves excluded: they mirror and reflect their own self hate to the surrounding society and it's bulding blocks, values.

Two thumbs up for this one. Eino combined in a very eloquent way a few things I've thought about myself. Feeling of inadequacy -> hate towards what is better than you -> worship of otherness -> mirroring, all this fuss about hate hate hate when it is nowhere to be found.

[Svensken]

Where in Finland does your relatives live?
Why is Swedish peoples party so pro mass immigration?

Most of them live in the region of Vasa in Österbotten.

In 2009 SFP came up with the 'Kasnäs- manifesto', a plan how to make the party grow its support. They were hoping to more than double it and reach a ten percent voter support:

The Kasnäs-manifesto

Svenska folkpartiet - Suomen ruotsalainen kansanpuolue

Thesis 1
We are the liberal party of Finland, with a strong Nordic and European dimension. Our liberalism builds on respect for humankind, the freedoms and rights of individuals, gender equality, and social and global responsibility.

Thesis 2
We support welfare that is built on humanity and solidarity and that meets the need for secure and individual choices. We emphasize the responsibility of individuals for themselves and for others. Prosperity is created in interplay between public services, the third sector, active citizens, and private initiatives.

Thesis 3
Language is a resource. Bilingualism is a national factor of success that requires a robust knowledge of swedish. Bilingualism also has to be combined with a respect for all mother tongues and all cultures in Finland. We strive for society to guarantee functioning services in both national languages – Swedish and Finnish. We are deeply committed to the Åland Islands and to defending their autonomy.

Thesis 4
We are a party of cultures and welcome immigration to our country – not because it is easy, but because we want to. Successful integration enables new citizens to become a natural part of society, the labour market, and the political life of Finland.

Thesis 5
We are the party for education and culture. We want to invest in education, because a skilled population constitutes the basis for prosperity and international competitiveness. Cultural heritage and a changeable milieu create a vibrant culture. The Finland of tomorrow is built on this foundation.

Thesis 6
We are the party for entrepreneurs, striving to improve the conditions for entrepreneurship in our country. This creates well-being and increased employment. Finland needs flourishing and profitable businesses.

Thesis 7
We take responsibility for our local environment and for the Baltic Sea. We want to solve the global environment problems and create a cleaner world. The solutions are found in environmental awareness, innovations, and ecological economy. Our future is to develop sustainably.

Thesis 8
We are a political citizens' movement. The prosperous Finland needs its national movements. Voluntary commitment creates community and quality of life. Culture, sports, local activities, and associations strengthen identity and serve an important purpose in our society. There must be room and time for voluntary activities in life.

Thesis 9
We are the party for the countryside as well as cities. Prospering primary industries and functioning societal services create the basis for a thriving countryside. In the ever more urbanized world in which we live the services that society provides need to give more consideration to individual needs. The Finland of tomorrow needs countryside and archipelago as well as towns and cities.

Thesis 10
We shall be a growing party with a clear vision that forms the Finland of tomorrow and assumes responsibility for it. We shall with open minds seek new ways of working to reach our goals. By being proactive we can be more in favour and less against.


If SPP can fullfill meet these theses we can becoma a ten percent party. Kasnäs is only the beginning of the process.

http://sfp.fi/sv/start/kasnas/kaslish/

HELSINGFORS. Den framtidskonferens som Svenska Folkpartiet höll i Kasnäs i helgen resulterade bland annat i ett nytt manifest, Kasnäsmanifestet. Manifestet innehåller tio teser för hur SFP ska växa som parti.
.
SFP ser tre grupper av potentiella nya väljare: Medlemmar av tvåspråkiga familjer, nyfinländare samt väljare som oberoende av språk är intresserade av det liberala budskapet.

http://www.vasabladet.fi/story.aspx?storyID=49832

This strategy has not been working, the support has remained firmly under five percent.
It also seems as although Swedish-speaking Finns welcome foreigners  in theory, they feel that in their own village and city the number of foreigners is sufficient. They have been called hypocritical due to this, according to this article (and also by me):

I teorin vill de svenskspråkiga gärna underlätta invandring, men när det kommer till den egna byn eller staden är inställningen mindre välkomnande. En stor del anser att vi redan nått lämplig invandrartäthet i hemknutarna.

Gärna invandrare alltså - men inte på min bakgård.

Den här diskrepansen mellan teori och verklighet har satt igång en livlig debatt på nätet om hycklande finlanssvenskar. Förmodligen finns samma glapp mellan den vi vill vara och den vi är också hos majoritetsbefolkningen, men just den här frågan har inte alls utretts på nationellt plan.

http://hbl.fi/opinion/ledare/2009-10-17/invandrare-ocksa-pa-var-bakgard

Edit; A couple of Capital letters were missing..

These people are so stupid, they seems almost... swedish. Why why why are they so in love with immigrants. Do they want Finland to burn or what? (Sorry for not arguing in a good fashion but I am so upset by these stupid semi-sweds)

[Svensken]

... the swedish church is all other than christian. Now days it's actually a radical left-wing organisation and they are not even trying to hide it.

It is true what you say about Svenka Kyrkan, and it is the same also with Finnish Lutheran Church, and because of that   I am not a member of our Finnish Lutheran Church anymore. I still believe in Jesus, but the lutheran liberal  church is not for me.

I have not been a member of the church for a long time.

[Svensken]

I cannot understand what goes on in the minds of people that bow to islam in the civilized European countries, including Sweden and Finland.

I believe that the western love of islam is a bizarre form of self hate.

There are people who unconsciously detect the vast disparity between their own abilities and all the goodness and advancement of western society and so they feel very inferior which could turn to pathological self hate which in turn reflects as hate towards western society and it's values. The unconscious remedy is to hate all things western and adore every value system and culture which opposes our own culture. So promoting as exotic beliefs as possible is a kind of psychological mechanism aimed for survival of the ego and that trait implicates an urge to destroy all things western although this need and will to create havoc is unconscious. So people who feel inferior tend to promote multiculturalism. They are full of hate and this is part of the reason why they see "hate" everywhere themselves excluded: they mirror and reflect their own self hate to the surrounding society and it's bulding blocks, values.

In Sweden people believe Islam to be a nice form of christianity and the only reason people not liking it is because brown and black people mainly are in the religion. Its the evil racist again hating all that is actually full of love an beauty just because the colour of peoples skin.

Sweds know nothing about islam and they are not keen on learning.

[Emo]

... the swedish church is all other than christian. Now days it's actually a radical left-wing organisation and they are not even trying to hide it.

It is true what you say about Svenka Kyrkan, and it is the same also with Finnish Lutheran Church, and because of that   I am not a member of our Finnish Lutheran Church anymore. I still believe in Jesus, but the lutheran liberal  church is not for me.

I have not been a member of the church for a long time.

Why did you leave church? You don't believe in Jesus? Or was it because of churches political opinions?
Personal question, but I ask it. You answer if you want to answer.