Ask Svensken

[Emo]

Interesting, I did not know this. I deleted the post, so this kinds of topics are very infected in Finland?

You asked if it is possible for gaymen to donate blood in Finland and here is some information in english:

http://www.veripalvelu.fi/www/652

Sex between men prevents blood donation permanently because of the increased risk of hepatitis or HIV infection (number of HIV infections about tenfold compared with population in general).

[Emo]

^^ Cannot answer - otherwise I'll be banned!1!! 

Use YVs!   

[Eino P. Keravalta]

Svensken, you asked does one have to pay for changing sex through hormones and operation. To my knowledge it is free if one has gone through all the psychological inquirys in a special, public institute. That takes about a year in which time one has to meet several doctors and psychiatrists regularly. If one gets positive diagnosis, then the hormone treatment can be started and later an operation can take place. As far as I know, it is free although there could be insignificant, formal and modest payment.

For more information, you can ask here in english..

http://www.transtukipiste.fi/transsupportcenter

[Emo]

^ Religions (except sometimes islam), gays, abortion, euthanasia and Ilkka Partanen are the topics to avoid if you want to keep in good terms with the moderators. 

But to be honest, these are the topics we love to discuss     And that's why we sometimes travel to the Banana Islands for a short period of time.

[gloaming]

Svensken, you asked does one have to pay for changing sex through hormones and operation. To my knowledge it is free if one has gone through all the psychological inquirys in a special, public institute. That takes about a year in which time one has to meet several doctors and psychiatrists regularly. If one gets positive diagnosis, then the hormone treatment can be started and later an operation can take place. As far as I know, it is free although there could be insignificant, formal and modest payment.

This is a correct impression. The sex change operations are performed exclusively in the public health care. The patient has to pay for part of the meds (up to some 700 Eur annually) and some modest hospital and clinic fees.

[AstaTTT]

But to be honest, these are the topics we love to discuss     And that's why we sometimes travel to the Banana Islands for a short period of time.

I have learnt the high art of sitting on my hands when the urge attacks. 

[Goman]

"Banana Islands"

= get banned

Actually , there are  plenty of expressions which are difficult to understand, if one doesn't have
The Homma-Finnish-dictionary :
http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,31.0.html

Sorry, it is only in Finnish and Homma-language 

[Emo]

But to be honest, these are the topics we love to discuss     And that's why we sometimes travel to the Banana Islands for a short period of time.

I have learnt the high art of sitting on my hands when the urge attacks. 

I have not!

[Svensken]

I was stupid not to ask directly about what was ok and what was not ok.

There has been not a real debate about it, but there has been news about these questions the recent year so I just wanted to know about the situation in Finland. The homosexual organisation in Sweden is very strange because they love radical islamism.

SD tried to get friends with RFSL (the homo-lobby-group) by stating that radical islamists would not take kindly to people being homosexual in public. Then RFSL answered "We do not accept your racist hollow rhetoric. (The alleged hollow rhetoric was: Radical muslims think its wrong with homosexuality+they might get many=they might hurt you)

(Because I focused on islamism I hope it was ok that I mentioned the swedish gay organisation stand, I will from now not mention things about the topics just described. They can be discussed in private. If I write things not accepted please tell my and I remove it. Living in Sweden you get very good at doing this ) 

[gloaming]

Oh please Emo and Asta,

please do not litter yet another thread with pointless chitchat.

[vainukoira]

^ Religions (except sometimes islam), gays, abortion, euthanasia and Ilkka Partanen are the topics to avoid if you want to keep in good terms with the moderators. 

And the Jews, Svenske, remember to forget them. Jew + media + banking = no no no.

You also mentioned something about how finns might be pissed of about forced swedish language. That is also kind of nono-topic here. So I do tell just that finnswedes suprisingly consider that it is okay.

The discussion of other privileges of the swedish speakers is not so banned. They have for example minimum fixed share for many universities and schools. And they show kind of a joy and glee of this kind of privilege and power over finns.

Not good attitude for equal relations and co-operation.

They tell us that we earn money from getting immigrants, they cost a little bit in the beginning but then you make a huge profit. So we would just be extremely wealthy. And the most important thing that they tell us often "There is much room in Sweden."

Well this is exactly how finnish idiots are argumenting the benefits of immigration for us.

And wellcome to this site Svenske. Nice to finally meet a healthy minded swede also here.

[Nissemand]

Oh please Emo and Asta,

please do not litter yet another thread with pointless chitchat.

Nothing can stop the dynamic duo

[foobar]

There has been not a real debate about it, but there has been news about these questions the recent year so I just wanted to know about the situation in Finland. The homosexual organisation in Sweden is very strange because they love radical islamism.

Interest groups - or at least vocal individuals participating in them - tend to be kidnapped by rather radical internationalist socialists (who also play being green and tolerant) not only in Sweden, but also here in Finland. They turn blind eye on hatred of homosexuals, jews and whatnot in muslim immigrants... because they're muslim. It is very strange, but seemingly infectious denialist attitude.

I think in Finland this kind of demeaning or even hateful attitude towards Perussuomalaiset from sexual minorities comes mostly from individuals, not whole organizations. Finns probably have lower tolerance towards PC they recognize to be utter bullshit, and it slows considerably the attempts to make really believe that, for instance, PS would be inherently homophobic.

[gloaming]

And the Jews, Svenske, remember to forget them. Jew + media + banking = no no no.

Well, that usually attracts trolls, true neonazis, old school nazis and holocaust denialists, which would be pointless. You can discuss judaism, zionism and the jews in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict.

You also mentioned something about how finns might be pissed of about forced swedish language. That is also kind of nono-topic here. So I do tell just that finnswedes suprisingly consider that it is okay.

There is a thread of several hundred pages concerning that topic in this forum. It would be fair to assume that anything worth saying has already been said. And we do have our fair share of obsessive-compulsive "krossa tvångssvenskan" cranks in this forum.

[Svensken]

What is the background of this forum, how, why and when was is created and what is it's connections/line politicly? 

[alussaolisana]

To my experience it is not so easy to get a ticket to the Banana Islands. I have argued about christianity, evolution, existence of God, jews, getting Karelia back, Swedish lanquage etc. and never even been Warned. I try not to insult anybody or get fanatic and so far the moderators seem to think it has been ok. So Svensken, dont be too careful, I dont think u will ever see those islands.

[nurkkakuntalainen]

What is the background of this forum, how, why and when was is created and what is it's connections/line politicly?

I think this started as Jussi Halla-aho's blog's guestbook. This forum is operated by "Homma ry" foundation, and it's not connected to other organizations, AFAIK. The forum is mainly critical of immigration.

[foobar]

What is the background of this forum, how, why and when was is created and what is it's connections/line politicly?

Hommaforum was founded as a replacement to "blog guestbook" of Jussi Halla-aho, then-blogger, now-member-of-town-board-and-a-member-of-parliament. Original guestbook became pretty crowded and limited for the amount of discussion that was going on. Mr. Halla-aho might be considered to be a protagonist of immigration policy criticism in Finland, "blowing life" to the believable countermovement to blind multiculturalism.

Hommaforum is in many ways pretty open-ended, although obviously the main focus is on immigration policy. It might be easily called the most successful - and maybe also most civilized if not exactly multivocal political discussion forum in Finland.

[Miniluv]

eer...forum moderator gives you ban for gay-disco related topics. They are tired for the gay related issues as feelings tend to boil over and attacks turn personal insults. 

general rule of thumb, all matters gay, ask svensken....

Interesting, I did not know this. I deleted the post, so this kinds of topics are very infected in Finland?

Hi, Svensken! Returned from my Christmas vacation few hours ago and was quite pleased to see you here discussing away

Yes, there a some restricted topics on this forum. Truth values of religion and atheism, gay issues, the politics concerning Swedish language, Holocaust, Nazis, abortion, euthanasia, for example.

http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,59339.0.html

These topics tend to bring out the most emotional sides from everyone and are certain to derail threads whenever they appear, so discussion is restricted, as the focus of this forum is immigration and immigration politics.

Please, do not hesitate to contact me by private message if you have anything to ask.

(blue color anywhere on this forum means moderator speaking officially.)

[gloaming]

What is the background of this forum, how, why and when was is created and what is it's connections/line politicly?

I would say that the background as regards political opinions and affiliations is rather heterogeneous, but there is a common theme of nationalism, pro- national interest and anti- third world immigration. Most people probably vote The Finns (Perussuomalaiset). Well, I don't vote them because in my opinion their views of the economy are too leftist.

Historically this forum is a spin-off of a commentary database of a blog written by a Finnish MP, Jussi Halla-aho.

[mustaviis]

You have to read Jussi Halla-aho´s scripta, i am not to sure is it only finnish, but lot of  same kind of people, wrote old "questbook", and this HommaFoorum was born, becouse old questbook become very popular and it`s get too small to take all information ...what  people try to say, 

[Svensken]

And the Jews, Svenske, remember to forget them. Jew + media + banking = no no no.

Well, that usually attracts trolls, true neonazis, old school nazis and holocaust denialists, which would be pointless. You can discuss judaism, zionism and the jews in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict.

You also mentioned something about how finns might be pissed of about forced swedish language. That is also kind of nono-topic here. So I do tell just that finnswedes suprisingly consider that it is okay.

There is a thread of several hundred pages concerning that topic in this forum. It would be fair to assume that anything worth saying has already been said. And we do have our fair share of obsessive-compulsive "krossa tvångssvenskan" cranks in this forum.

Is there still a wanting to get back Karelia, if yes which parts of Karelia?

[gloaming]

Is there still a wanting to get back Karelia, if yes which parts of Karelia?

I have no interests in Karelia but people of Karelian descent may have different ideas.

Not a hot topic in Finnish politics.

[foobar]

You have to read Jussi Halla-aho´s scripta, i am not to sure is it only finnish, but lot of  same kind of people, wrote old "questbook", and this HommaFoorum was born, becouse old questbook become very popular and it`s get too small to take all information ...what  people try to say, 

Note to the (foreign) reader: automatic translation is poor tool for understanding nuanced irony, sarcasm, political and cultural references. Texts of Mr. Halla-aho are rife with them, as only way to observe most developed multiculturalist absurdities is to mix them with sufficient amount of humour that arises from reality vs. dogma disparity.

[Svensken]

eer...forum moderator gives you ban for gay-disco related topics. They are tired for the gay related issues as feelings tend to boil over and attacks turn personal insults. 

general rule of thumb, all matters gay, ask svensken....

Interesting, I did not know this. I deleted the post, so this kinds of topics are very infected in Finland?

Hi, Svensken! Returned from my Christmas vacation few hours ago and was quite pleased to see you here discussing away

Yes, there a some restricted topics on this forum. Truth values of religion and atheism, gay issues, the politics concerning Swedish language, Holocaust, Nazis, abortion, euthanasia, for example.

http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,59339.0.html

These topics tend to bring out the most emotional sides from everyone and are certain to derail threads whenever they appear, so discussion is restricted, as the focus of this forum is immigration and immigration politics.

Please, do not hesitate to contact me by private message if you have anything to ask.

(blue color anywhere on this forum means moderator speaking officially.)

Thanks for the welcome!
I will do my best not to say things not accepted in this forum, if I do just tell me. I will also do my best to contact you if I have any questions.

I am getting more and more interested in this Jussi Halla-aho, is he ever active on the forum?

[AstaTTT]

You have to read Jussi Halla-aho´s scripta, i am not to sure is it only finnish, but lot of  same kind of people, wrote old "questbook", and this HommaFoorum was born, becouse old questbook become very popular and it`s get too small to take all information ...what  people try to say, 

Quickly searching, there have been some attempts to translate Mr. Halla-aho's texts into Swedish:
http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,41487.0.html

[Goman]

This explain something. Homma-forum writers poll;  Which party would you vote for if government would fall now?

http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,63438.msg866776.html#msg866776

[gloaming]

I am getting more and more interested in this Jussi Halla-aho, is he ever active on the forum?

Rarely. IRL he is rather uncharismatic but his texts are quite humorous and primed to offend if you entertain certain ideological views. I guess it is fair to say that he ignited the modern critical discussion on third world immigration while this forum provided the final impetus that made immigration a major topic in Finnish politics.

We used to be more serious and formal those days whereas now we are just a regular popular message board. Some say it's evolution, some say it's degeneration.

[vainukoira]

Is there still a wanting to get back Karelia, if yes which parts of Karelia?

Well Karjala as whole. And also Salla, Petsamo and the Islands of the Finnish Gulf.

Petsamo would give the right for Arctic sea oil and gas.

Watch this map.
http://www.luovutettukarjala.fi/

[Svensken]

Is there still a wanting to get back Karelia, if yes which parts of Karelia?

Well Karjala as whole. And also Salla, Petsamo and the Islands of the Finnish Gulf.

Petsamo would give the right for Arctic sea oil and gas.

Watch this map.
http://www.luovutettukarjala.fi/

"Fjärrkarelen"(Far-karelia, Olonets/Aunus) also?
Yes, Nickel mines and the Artic resources