Ask Svensken

[Lemmy]

I might be biased, but all the young men I know are studying, going to army or working between studies. I live in a village near Oulu and see the local youth very positively (with a few exceptions which is only natural).

Was it not though year -two back the news from Oulu city itself about the huge youth unemployment figures, and those youths wit no army, no education, no kob and no intrest? I think your village is a good one that still cares... You seen that documentary "Arvottomat"?

[Emo]

In Sweden people believe Islam to be a nice form of christianity ...

That is exactly the same that also finnish bishops and priests have started to teach us recently... only some bishops and priests so far but it spreads.

They are teaching to people that, after all, we all believe in same one god. That is a big lie.

[AstaTTT]

I still have not lost faith in the church although I have lost faith in the Finnish Evangelic-Lutheran church. It is all about who we choose to be and to live that reality.

I have a very ... hmmm ... personal spiritual background. But in all the options that I see laid out in front of me, I choose to promote Christianity. Not the one promoted by our churches but the original one based on values (before Christianity was formed into a church): love yourself and love your neighbour with whom you share the same values, defend this from the outside influences and and be brave in front of opposition.

We practically have nothing to lose (because in the plans of the powers to be we have already lost), so all that is required is to continue our fight for Love. Love for our loved ones, love for our traditions, love for our culture. To love is the key, like Eino from Kerava said. Islam is based on mental ignorance and hate, we are the opposite. We want to make every individual flourish, to be an important part of the society. But in equality.

Multiculturalism is all about inequality. It is about raising the illiterate camel drivers (and their multiple wives) to the level of people who spent at least 12 years at school learning to read and write and do the math, to make them look like equal to us.

It is not so. The camel driver cannot be what the native is even with the basic education, with the language, social and cultural capabilities that we possess. I would assess that for an immigrant it takes 15+ years to really understand what Finland is all about. These "African and middle-eastern golden eggs" are a total fraud. They cannot become Finnish (or Swedish) because their culture is too different. They will just form another "gypsy culture". We can prevent this by not accepting any more refugees from these countries. Like I said in one blog message in Uusi Suomi, I would like to see the borders of Finland closed from any more immigrants from Somalia until we know better how to deal with them. For that, I got a warning from Uusi Suomi. And, on Christmas Eve, I got banned altogether for presenting our (Homma) law initiative there of not giving cash to the so-called refugees whilst still taking care of their basic needs.

It is what it is. And we continue. 

[Lemmy]

These people are so stupid, they seems almost... swedish. Why why why are they so in love with immigrants. Do they want Finland to burn or what? (Sorry for not arguing in a good fashion but I am so upset by these stupid semi-sweds)

Well, we usually tell them to move to their paradise in Sweden - everyone would be happy
In the 1920's the communists were driven to the Soviet border to make the choice easier, but its not fashionable any more. But we could exchange our SFP to your SD, then we would have a totally differently irritating minority party

[-PPT-]

I quit the church 20 years ago when I turned 18 and the recent developments have proved that my decision was the right one. I know that in Sweden you have the same system of church-taxes as here in Finland. I really find it incredible that still something like 80% of the population choose to pay between 1-2% of their annual income, depending on the congregation they are members of, if the option is just not to pay that money.

Furthermore, I wouldn't have a problem with paying 1-2% of my annual income to some church if I viewed that church to be a nice philanthropic organisation but unfortunately they prove time and again to be just the opposite.

The straw which breaks the camel's back is the church's pandering to the fascist ideology called islam.

[Svensken]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration. The government has put up a goal to double the usual immigration. If they succeed with this there might be up to 200.000 immigrants coming to Sweden every year. Nothing is though sure about this question. But it is good to bear in mind, if this will be the new level of immigrants coming to Sweden what I told earlier about 2025 as a year when sweds becomes in minority will be wrong. It will happen much earlier.

[Tykkimies Pönni]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration. The government has put up a goal to double the usual immigration. If they succeed with this there might be up to 200.000 immigrants coming to Sweden every year. Nothing is though sure about this question. But it is good to bear in mind, if this will be the new level of immigrants coming to Sweden what I told earlier about 2025 as a year when sweds becomes in minority will be wrong. It will happen much earlier.

Thinking about those figures, have you ever considered if there was something bigger and meaner going on behind the scene? Decade after decade, more and more immigrants and problems and all that just because of political foolishness?

[elukka]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration. The government has put up a goal to double the usual immigration. If they succeed with this there might be up to 200.000 immigrants coming to Sweden every year. Nothing is though sure about this question. But it is good to bear in mind, if this will be the new level of immigrants coming to Sweden what I told earlier about 2025 as a year when sweds becomes in minority will be wrong. It will happen much earlier.

Thinking about those figures, have you ever considered if there was something bigger and meaner going on behind the scene? Decade after decade, more and more immigrants and problems and all that just because of political foolishness?

Bilderberg, freemasons and new world order has an enemy: home, religion and nations....

[Snuiva]

Charge of the tiinfoil brigade (http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/forum/smileyvault-popcorn.gif)

[Roope]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration.

Extreme indeed. According to Migrationsverket asylum related immigration is going to triple to 45 000 people for the next few years (2013-2016) compared to year 2010 when 15 000 humanitarian residence permits were granted.

Migrationsverket räknar med 51 000–64 000 asylsökande nästa år, beroende på utvecklingen. (..) Sammantaget bedömer Migrationsverket att cirka 45 000 uppehållstillstånd kommer att beviljas till asylsökande och deras anhöriga samt kvotflyktingar 2013.

Migrationsverket: 54 000 asylsökande nästa år 29.10.2012

[Svensken]

samuliloov, elukka:
Of course it makes me wonder, it seems very insidious what's happening but if it would be the groups you're talking about we can not reach them in any way. So it's a bit like cursing some kind of demon that you can not actually fight.

It's better not speculate openly though it scares people away and makes thinks look a bit strange. I never use the "tinfoil-card" on anyone but a ask many people to discuss their own theories in private rather than put them on the public agenda.

Here anyway is a clip with Mona muslim who tells about when she was at the  Bilderberg meeting. She said she thought is was a bad gathering(not of the fact that hundreds of the most powerful people meet in secret) but because of the few women there. So here it is, Mona muslim at her best(there is subtitles in english): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSLpFCZAThQ

[Svensken]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration.

Extreme indeed. According to Migrationsverket asylum related immigration is going to triple to 45 000 people for the next few years (2013-2016) compared to year 2010 when 15 000 humanitarian residence permits were granted.

Migrationsverket räknar med 51 000–64 000 asylsökande nästa år, beroende på utvecklingen. (..) Sammantaget bedömer Migrationsverket att cirka 45 000 uppehållstillstånd kommer att beviljas till asylsökande och deras anhöriga samt kvotflyktingar 2013.

Migrationsverket: 54 000 asylsökande nästa år 29.10.2012

Which lovely numbers you found, it seems it's only me here on the forum who is invited to this exotic and and enriching party.

Bad for all you guys, I am VIP

[vainukoira]

Why is Swedish peoples party so pro mass immigration?

These people are so stupid, they seems almost... swedish. Why why why are they so in love with immigrants. Do they want Finland to burn or what? (Sorry for not arguing in a good fashion but I am so upset by these stupid semi-sweds)

Well they have same kind of attitude and methods for finns, as one unnamed religious minority in the United States has for whites. Destroy, divide and conquer.

Many, not all,but very many finn-swed is looking to achieve a better position in relation to finns by promoting immigration and dicreasing the relative propotion of the finns in their own country. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Very simple and effective.

I gues you understand now why some finns have slightly "laddad" attitude to swedish languaege and people.

Luckily, specially finnish nationalists understand, that this kind of anti-finnins thinking is not so common among true-swedes in sweden, than among finn-swedes on Finland.

So co-operation is not impossible between our people.

I am just worried, that Swedes start to flee multiculti from sweden to Finnland, turn to finn-swedes, adapt idiotic attitude and vote for sfp. That would spoil the day.

[-PPT-]

Sometimes it seems to me that Sweden has something of an inferiority-complex as regards its relatively low population as compared to countries such as Germany, France and Britain. Sweden often speaks of itself as a middle-sized nation even though some countries with higher populations, such as Belgium or the Netherlands refere to themselves as small countries.

Countries like Finland, Norway or Denmark are under no illusion about their meaninglessness. Therefore, they are more at ease with themselves.

[Spesialisti]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration. The government has put up a goal to double the usual immigration. If they succeed with this there might be up to 200.000 immigrants coming to Sweden every year. Nothing is though sure about this question. But it is good to bear in mind, if this will be the new level of immigrants coming to Sweden what I told earlier about 2025 as a year when sweds becomes in minority will be wrong. It will happen much earlier.

Some questions come to mind; how are these people accommodated? Where do you store 200k newcomers in quite a short period of time? I'ts a size of of a quite big town. How can communities handle this financially?

[Svensken]

Why is Swedish peoples party so pro mass immigration?

These people are so stupid, they seems almost... swedish. Why why why are they so in love with immigrants. Do they want Finland to burn or what? (Sorry for not arguing in a good fashion but I am so upset by these stupid semi-sweds)

Well they have same kind of attitude and methods for finns, as one unnamed religious minority in the United States has for whites. Destroy, divide and conquer.

Many, not all,but very many finn-swed is looking to achieve a better position in relation to finns by promoting immigration and dicreasing the relative propotion of the finns in their own country. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Very simple and effective.

I gues you understand now why some finns have slightly "laddad" attitude to swedish languaege and people.

Luckily, specially finnish nationalists understand, that this kind of anti-finnins thinking is not so common among true-swedes in sweden, than among finn-swedes on Finland.

So co-operation is not impossible between our people.

I am just worried, that Swedes start to flee multiculti from sweden to Finnland, turn to finn-swedes, adapt idiotic attitude and vote for sfp. That would spoil the day.

It would be very sad indeed if Finland became invaded by sweds fleeing Sweden and ending up supporting SFP. The irony would be total.

[Svensken]

Sometimes it seems to me that Sweden has something of an inferiority-complex as regards its relatively low population as compared to countries such as Germany, France and Britain. Sweden often speaks of itself as a middle-sized nation even though some countries with higher populations, such as Belgium or the Netherlands refere to themselves as small countries.

Countries like Finland, Norway or Denmark are under no illusion about their meaninglessness. Therefore, they are more at ease with themselves.

I really think you really have a point here. Sweden have a very hard time accepting we are not the the middle of the world. Much of Swedish political discussion is centred around arguments and assumptions like we would be though.

Sweden aspire still to be a world power. If they cant be it in terms of numbers or military they can then be it when it comes to taking in the most immigrants in the world.

[Miniluv]

One message removed. Enough already with the tin foil theories.

[Svensken]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration. The government has put up a goal to double the usual immigration. If they succeed with this there might be up to 200.000 immigrants coming to Sweden every year. Nothing is though sure about this question. But it is good to bear in mind, if this will be the new level of immigrants coming to Sweden what I told earlier about 2025 as a year when sweds becomes in minority will be wrong. It will happen much earlier.

Some questions come to mind; how are these people accommodated? Where do you store 200k newcomers in quite a short period of time? I'ts a size of of a quite big town. How can communities handle this financially?

We cant!

There is shortage of housing in almost all swedish cities. The new idea from our migration office is though that ordinary sweds would open up their homes and accommodate families of the new sweds. Except from just getting the sheer joy of having these people close to them selves and their children they might even get some money from the state of course.

[AstaTTT]

^ There is no democracy in the immigration issue. Those who want to open the borders of Sweden and Finland to unrestricted immigration should be the ones to finance it - or alternatively, move to those areas that they feel should be helped and do the work themselves.

Nations are in different curve of evolution. Somalia is very different from Finland and Kurdistan is very different from Sweden - in all aspects. My heart cries for people in distress but I strongly feel that we should find ways to help people at or close to their roots. You cannot expect an uprooted person to become a valuable member of a society that is totally different from theirs.

Yes, there are people and countries that need support. But immigration does not solve any problems.
Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs by Roy Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

[Eino P. Keravalta]

The new idea from our migration office is though that ordinary sweds would open up their homes and accommodate families of the new sweds.

Sounds extremely funny. They should produce a reality-TV serie about this project: it will be pure black ( no pun intended ) comedy!

[Svensken]

^ There is no democracy in the immigration issue. Those who want to open the borders of Sweden and Finland to unrestricted immigration should be the ones to finance it - or alternatively, move to those areas that they feel should be helped and do the work themselves.

Nations are in different curve of evolution. Somalia is very different from Finland and Kurdistan is very different from Sweden - in all aspects. My heart cries for people in distress but I strongly feel that we should find ways to help people at or close to their roots. You cannot expect an uprooted person to become a valuable member of a society that is totally different from theirs.

Yes, there are people and countries that need support. But immigration does not solve any problems.
Immigration, World Poverty and Gumballs by Roy Beck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

I agree with you fully!
In Sweden you get all the time in the world to explain why we should have a huge immigration. But if you are critical you get no time at all.

The video you talks about is excellent, everyone should see it!

[AstaTTT]

^ We translated Roy Beck's video into Finnish here at Homma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhOS5btEmyw

Maybe you could do the same in Swedish?

[Tuomas2]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration. The government has put up a goal to double the usual immigration. If they succeed with this there might be up to 200.000 immigrants coming to Sweden every year. Nothing is though sure about this question. But it is good to bear in mind, if this will be the new level of immigrants coming to Sweden what I told earlier about 2025 as a year when sweds becomes in minority will be wrong. It will happen much earlier.

Rahmis translated Björn Schaerström (M) newsmill published text and from that I read that people are slowly starting to think that country is not going to right direction (link to original SD växer för att folket är trötta på dagens invandring), my questions:

1. has any other media commented that text
2. has there been other similar texts from local politicians
3. I had understood that there were no big problems with refugees from Chile in Finland, did you have those issues Björn mentions or did he mention problems with Chileans there just to show that also refugees from non-Islamic countries can cause serious problems?

[Svensken]

The new idea from our migration office is though that ordinary sweds would open up their homes and accommodate families of the new sweds.

Sounds extremely funny. They should produce a reality-TV serie about this project: it will be pure black ( no pun intended ) comedy!

I don't think any TV-station would dare. In immigrant neighbourhoods very strange things happen which would not look good on film. There are many reports of floor drainage being clogged with animal blood and their hair. Many goats are believed to be halal slaughtered in the basements of many areas. There are also extensive talks about many immigrants cooking their food directly on the plates of the stove. When they then move away very extensive cleaning is needed if the stoves are at all able to save. Others from that many places where immigrants spend their days have had to put up signs that you are not allowed to stand on the toilet while doing your needs. Last and worse there are many many reports of immigrants killing animals for fun. Burning bunnies, killing dogs and setting fire to cats and hedgehogs.

The last thing is very horrible, but we as Europeans have to understand that we are the only culture of the world where torturing animals for fun is at all seen as something problematic.

[Svensken]

^ We translated Roy Beck's video into Finnish here at Homma:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhOS5btEmyw

Maybe you could do the same in Swedish?

You are great
I think it is in swedish already, otherwise its not a problem most young sweds understand english very well.

[Svensken]

2013 is probably going to be the most extreme year ever in swedish history when it comes to immigration. The government has put up a goal to double the usual immigration. If they succeed with this there might be up to 200.000 immigrants coming to Sweden every year. Nothing is though sure about this question. But it is good to bear in mind, if this will be the new level of immigrants coming to Sweden what I told earlier about 2025 as a year when sweds becomes in minority will be wrong. It will happen much earlier.

Rahmis translated Björn Schaerström (M) newsmill published text and from that I read that people are slowly starting to think that country is not going to right direction (link to original SD växer för att folket är trötta på dagens invandring), my questions:

1. has any other media commented that text
2. has there been other similar texts from local politicians
3. I had understood that there were no big problems with refugees from Chile in Finland, did you have those issues Björn mentions or did he mention problems with Chileans there just to show that also refugees from non-Islamic countries can cause serious problems?

1. Only alternative media has written about it. (What in sweden also called by the PC-media for "hate media")

2. Maybe, but they are soon shut down. These ideas are not tolerated on "normal parties". Only the party of hate and evil(SD) lets people state these ideas

3. I think there could be problems when you have so large numbers of immigrants as we are talking about next year probably between 100.000-200.000. The chileans people came when we had very little immigration. And most of them were well educated and politicly active and they were fast integrated in the society (And in the all mighty Social democrats). But the immigrants from MENA(Middle East and North Africa) are more problematic than the others. They tend to be harder to educate and are more easy taking to violence in tensed situations.

[Svensken]

Today the heads of the green party came out telling us that saying that ANY problems at all comes from immigration is evil and wrong.

Are the greens in Finland as deranged?

[Uuno Nuivanen]

Yes.

[Masa76]

Inte är de finska och svenska gröna enbart fullständigt befriade av all normal vett och reson utan somliga är även gifta med varandra. Eller åtminstone har de varit. Hittar ingen intresse i utopiska världsfantasier.