2011-08-30 IS:Italiassa nauretaan Suomelle: Tienaatte 3400e/kk - miksei se näy?

[Elemosina]

Tuo italialaisjuttu kehui Suomea. Ilta-Sanomat on otsikoinut asian keltaisen lehdistön tavalla aivan päinvastaiseksi!

Äläs muuta sano. Kommenteissa myös oiottiin itse artikkelin virheellisimmät tiedot/tahalliset kärjistykset.
Näin sitä italialaisvihaa levitetään Suomessa, vääristellen toisella kielellä kirjoitettujen artikkelien sisältöjä. IS:n juttu ja otsikointi ne vasta vihapuhetta ovat

[Riippumatoton]

Joku perusLV on vaan jotain 500 euroa, ja se kestää hyvänä kauan. Monet niistä jotka ostaa kalliita käsilaukkuja ostaa ne loppuelämäksi, joten siinä mielessä se ei ole kovin kallis. Ja ne on muuten yleensä tehty kanvaasista, sen takia ne on luksuslaukuiksi aika halpoja, nahkaiset on kalliimpia.

Jotenkin noin yritin asiaa järkeillä. 500 euroon ei kyllä muuta kuin päivittää kaapistot ilman mitään ekstraa, joten luulin laukkua vähän kalliimmaksi.

Nykyäänhän ei ole enää oikeita luksusmerkkejä kuin pari (esim. hermes on edelleen oikeaa luksusta)

Ainakin sitä oikeaa luksusta on vaikeaa löytää. Olisin ostanut rakkaalle puolisolleni synttärilahjaksi Cartierin kultaisen sytkän mutta vähän turhan kauas olisi pitänyt lähteä ostamaan kun ei netistä uskaltanut. Onneksi hän on lopettanut tupakoinnin, joten ei niin harmita.

[Finka]

Keskipalkka ei välttämättä kerro ihmisten käytettävissä olevasta rahasta paljoakaan. Annan esimerkin. Jos neljän työntekijän ryhmässä tienattaisiin seuraavat kuukausipalkat: 1000e, 1000e, 1000e, 7000e, niin keskiansio olisi 10000e/4 = 2500e. Kuitenkaan yhdenkään ryhmään kuuluvan palkka ole lähelläkään keskiansiota. Toisille keskiansio olisi utopistisen suuri ja toisille naurettavan pieni.

Mediaaniansio on se minkä perusteella voi tehdä oletuksia tavallisen tallaajan rahankäytöstä.

[Salvation]

Keskipalkka 3400 €/kk??? Taitaa olla työpaikanvaihdoksen aika...

Katos tienaan enää tonnin keskipalkan yli; pitääkin pyytää palkankorotus.

[Salvation]

Meillä on toimiva jätteidenkeruu.

Kelpaa mielestäni kuittailuksi ihan mihin tahansa mitä italialainen mussuttaa.

Toi olikin hyvä  Ehkäpä toimivan jätteidenkeräyksen järjestäminen on ihan liian vaativaa italialaisille.

[farewell]

Ettekö te ihmiset osaa lukea vai mikä teitä vaivaa? Uutisotsikko on selvä provo ja monet eivät näköjään päässeet sitä edemmäksi kun alkavat mussuttaa jostain italialaisten jätteidenkeruusta. Se lehtihän kehui Suomea aika selvästi, voi teitä hompansseja...

[Ano Nyymi]

Ettekö te ihmiset osaa lukea vai mikä teitä vaivaa? Uutisotsikko on selvä provo ja monet eivät näköjään päässeet sitä edemmäksi kun alkavat mussuttaa jostain italialaisten jätteidenkeruusta. Se lehtihän kehui Suomea aika selvästi, voi teitä hompansseja...

Niin niin mutta kun ne naurrrraaa meille. Jos nyt ei italiaanot niin ainakin iltaroskan toimittelijat.

[mannym]

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Phenomenology of the Finns. That's why Helsinki wants more guarantees for the Greek rescue

Giulia CrivelliCronologia articolo27 2011Commenti August (10)
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Topics: Consumers | Helsinki | States | Alvar Aalto | Lidl | Max Mara | Moody's | Louis Vuitton | Task Force
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HELSINKI - In the coming days should be examined, then the alt or to receive the ok from the eurozone countries, the bilateral agreement between Greece and Finland on the second guarantee is required to participate in the new aid package to Athens.

According to Moody's, all member states involved in the rescue of Greece gathered in an ad hoc Task Force that deals with the implementation of the second floor of financial assistance to the country, will have to assess whether the demands placed from Helsinki and granted from Athens is in line with the commitments made by leaders of the Eurogroup on 21 July in Brussels. But what goes through the head of the Finnish government, led by one party to another Eurocentric? How do you justify that - at a time when Europe and the world seems on the brink - can seem like a suicidal move? To understand, perhaps it is useful to reflect on the uniqueness of Finland.
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Helsinki is probably the only Western capital in which SUVs are not in circulation. And not because the climate, for once, does not justify its use. Winter in Finland lasts nearly eight months, the streets in mid-October and SUVs seem to have frozen a great way to get around. But they are definitely too expensive a solution for the Finns, that if you really want to experience "for the rich" can get around by taxi, almost all Mercedes or BMW, the only luxury cars in circulation. The income per capita of Finland is about 3,400 euros a month, just below that of the Germans, but the idea of ??well-being - and luxury - seems to be very different from that of most European countries.

Helsinki is the only capital city without the SUV, is also the only capital city without the trappings of fashion and luxury globalized (but a closer look Italian and French). In the city where they live less than 600 thousand people, more than ten percent of the total population (5.6 million), the most famous street in the center, Pohjaisesplanadi, which recalls the beauty of Imperial Berlin Unter den Linden, the only store that shows the shopping streets of the capital cities of the world is Louis Vuitton. Among the Italians, the banner stand of Max Mara, but to find other brands made in Italy you have to start a sort of treasure hunt.

It is true that clothing stores often have names "Italianate" as Veromoda Ginatricot and, of course we remain the symbol of style, but average prices are much lower and the larger stores with names familiar to us Western consumers belong to chains of fast fashion, H & M and Zara in the first place. For food is the same: the insignia of the European retailers have failed to colonize the country, with the EXCEPT the German Lidl, which also has to deal with competition from hard discount rooms, arranged in a patchy at all town.

Finland is the country of Alvar Aalto, the architect and designer who found a fascinating synthesis between rationalism and organic architecture, never forget to put the elements in his works he considered his country's representative and identification, from the use of natural materials. Everything, in Helsinki, but also in the old capital Turku, echoes of rationalism "to the Finnish" Northern and essentiality. The idea of ??local welfare, or if we are to consumerism, has little to do with our own: we see how they are dressed people, young or old, and are furnished as shops, apartments and restaurants.

There's everything you need - including free wi-fi in every corner of the city and post offices are open every day up to 20 - and even some things that may seem superfluous to many Europeans, like the sauna in Finland there are two million to 5.6 million inhabitants. Lacks the superfluous now that we are accustomed to consider necessary. On the other hand there are very efficient public services and welfare wrap: Finnish citizens are entitled to free education including school books to university and receive an "allowance" from the state until the completion of the 17th year.

Maternity leave lasts nine months. A period in which mothers receive 100% of salary. They can then choose to return to work or stay home for another two and a half years without being paid but with the guarantee that the job remains of them. The school system is among the best in the world and the same goes for health care, virtually free for all. Finland is the only country on earth to have established a registry of diseases that have affected each of its nationals since 1900, a practice that allows statistical and epidemiological studies that will ultimately streamline the health care costs. All this has a cost, of course: the tax burden is high, but the Finns seem to have signed this rock-solid social compact with great conviction.

The state looks after them and trusts them and they trust the state. Or vice versa. Do not miss the shadows, being still human and not a forum for the island of Utopia: for example, youth unemployment is more 'than the European average and high rates of alcoholism and suicide too. But in times of global recession in Finland, however, seems happy island, which wants to protect its diversity and its model - as demonstrated by the attitude of Greece confrontoi - and that perhaps could teach something to all of us.