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Started by UgriProPatria, 08.11.2015, 13:07:51

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dothefake

Ei putinia kannateta juurikaan Moskovan ja Pietarin kehäteiden ulkopuolella, tämä on totuus, vaikka Ugri heittäisi voltin.
"Oma kansa ensin" -ajattelu on vahingollista.
-Tytti Tuppurainen

xor_rox

Quote from: dothefake on 16.12.2016, 02:51:51
Ei putinia kannateta juurikaan Moskovan ja Pietarin kehäteiden ulkopuolella, tämä on totuus, vaikka Ugri heittäisi voltin.

Olisiko tämän väitteen tueksi jotain aineistoa? Se kuulostaa nimittäin hieman omituiselta suhteessa länsimaisten tutkimuslaitosten kyselyjen tuloksiin, joiden mukaan Putinin politiikkaa Venäjällä on viime vuosina kannattanut yli 80% vastaajista.

dothefake

Ei ole mitään kovia todisteita. Tutkimuksissa kannatus menee varmaan lähiaikoina yli sadan prosentin.
"Oma kansa ensin" -ajattelu on vahingollista.
-Tytti Tuppurainen

UgriProPatria

Putin on jo neljättä vuotta maailman vaikutusvaltaisin henkilö.

Häntä kunnioitetaan siis laajasti Pietarin kehäteiden ulkopuolellakin, jopa USA:ssa asti!

dothefake

Olihan Hitlerkin vaikutusvaltainen, muttei kovin kunnioitettu, ainakaan monen muun maan asukkaiden mielestä
"Oma kansa ensin" -ajattelu on vahingollista.
-Tytti Tuppurainen

UgriProPatria

Kolmas kerta: Putin on jo 4 vuotta ollut MAAILMAN vaikutusvaltaisin henkilö. Hitler oli muutaman vuoden ajan SAKSAN, ei maailman vaikutusvaltaisin.

dothefake

"Oma kansa ensin" -ajattelu on vahingollista.
-Tytti Tuppurainen

xor_rox

Quote from: dothefake on 16.12.2016, 20:28:30
Viestini ydinsana oli kunnioitus.

Tammikuussa virkaan astuva Yhdysvaltojen seuraava presidentti on todennut monta kertaa kunnioittavansa Putinia ja nimenomaan valtiojohtajana. Se ja sama minulle, mutta suomalaisille poliitikoille hankala paikka, kun he eivät tunnu kunnioittavan kumpaakaan suurvaltajohtajaa. Suomalaisten marionettipoliitikkojen selkärangan tuntien arvaan tuulen kuitenkin kääntyvän tammikuussa ja kauhea kumartelu alkaa joka perkeleen ilmansuuntaan.

törö

Quote from: UgriProPatria on 16.12.2016, 20:26:47
Kolmas kerta: Putin on jo 4 vuotta ollut MAAILMAN vaikutusvaltaisin henkilö. Hitler oli muutaman vuoden ajan SAKSAN, ei maailman vaikutusvaltaisin.

Putinin tärkeys on pitkälti illuusio. Siihen vain kiinnitetään paljon huomiota, koska muut huijarit ovat huomanneet, että sitä voi syyttää ihan kaikesta.

Jos viitsii seurata Venäjän uutisia vähän tarkemmin, niin huomaa, ettei se ole mikään pysäyttämätön luonnonvoima, joka pystyy johtamaan maailmaa kulissien takaa, vaan sen hommat menevät reisille niin kuin kollegoillakin.

Oman Internetin kasaaminen suuren palomuurin taakse etenee suunnilleen yhtä sujuvasti kuin Merkelin monikulttuurinen Neljäs valtakunta, vaikkakaan se ei näy samalla tavalla katukuvassa ja rikostilastoissa.

kriittinen_ajattelija

Quote41 people die after drinking bath lotion with antifreeze in Siberia.


At least 41 people have died from poisoning after consuming a bath lotion containing alcohol in the Siberian city of Irkutsk, Russia's top investigative agency says.


A total of 57 people have been hospitalized, with some in a coma, the Investigative Committee says.

A sticker on the bath lotion said that it contains some 93 percent of ethyl alcohol, hawthorn extract, lemon oil, diethyl phthalate and glycerol. A chemical probe of the bath lotion has shown that in reality, Boyaryshnik (Hawthorn) contains methyl alcohol and antifreeze, Russia's Investigative Committee said.

The lotion bottles were marked with warnings that they are not for internal use.


Two suspects believed to be directly involved in the distribution of the surrogate alcohol have been detained, the Investigative Committee said.

They also said that Hawthorn bath lotion was available at about 100 outlets in Irkutsk.

The injured and dead appear to be residents of the same area in Irkutsk and, according to officials, they were not drinking alcohol together, and are socially disadvantaged people aged 35 to 50.

Although poisonings with surrogate alcohol are not uncommon in Russia, the Irkutsk incident appears to be one of the most fatal in years.
https://www.rt.com/news/370706-methanol-lotion-poisoning-siberia/

Typical day in Russia.

Venäjän kannattaisi laillistaa kannabis ja jakaa sitä ilmaiseksi maan asukkaille, ei tuosta noitten alkoholin nauttimisesta tule nimittäin yhtään mitään, vaikkakin trendi on, että käyttö olisi vähän vähenemässä sielläkin.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda

kriittinen_ajattelija

QuoteRussians, polls suggest, would like to see Russia become a fascist state but it lacks one necessary ingredient, a genuinely fascist-type leader, Yevgeny Ikhlov says.  As a result, it and they may be saved not by legal structures which unfortunately Russia does not yet have but rather by the absence of such a leader now or in the near future.

         On the Kasparov.ru portal today, the Moscow commentator recalls that exactly two years ago he wrote about the way in which Putinism was increasingly acquiring fascist tendencies (e-v-ikhlov.livejournal.com/99032.html) not only because of the Kremlin leader's plans but because of the Russian people's attitudes (kasparov.ru/material.php?id=585783DE6F612).

            "The evolution and transformation of Putinism occurs in waves, including periodic returns to 'normalcy' with a reduction in the level and harshness of political repressions, struggles against falsified criminal cases," and so on, Ikhov says.  But then these are followed by periods of even greater authoritarianism.

            But one thing remains constant, he suggests: "Society wants fascism," not in most cases the harsh and mobilized variant of Hitler but the softer kind of Mussolini or Franco or Salazar – and that means that Putin always can count on this to support him when he shifts from one direction to another.

            "According to all the surveys," Ikhlov continues, Russians, by significant majorities, "back more media and social network censorship, limitations on immigration, introduction of greater police control over private life and civil society, various kinds of state indoctrination, and an increase in the clerical and militarist component of this including in schools."

            Moreover, these same surveys show that "a significant number of people of all age cohorts accept the quasi-monarchical character of the powers that be and the means of its legitimation in the form of ritualized 'elections.'"  And they "especially like the foreign policy aggressiveness alongside indifference to its consequences: the war in the Donbass and in Syria."

            And Russians, again in super majorities, are pleased by the revival of a romantic image of their country, "connected with the idealization of their medieval rulers and imperial wars" and the accompanying isolation and even persecution of those who critically question any of this in public.

            But at least so far, Russians "don't need ritual-orgiastic mass actions in the Nazi style," although there is some of that among the young and among those who would like to see Russian forces advance even further into Ukraine or drive into the Baltic states.  But they do not yet set the weather.

           Those who would like a full-blown fascist state in Russia are still "disappointed" because they lack a fuehrer who could "crystalize" Russian state fascism. Putin clearly is too bourgeois for this role, Ikhlov says. "There is in him no insane faith in his own higher appointment" either of the kind displayed by Hitler and Mussolini or that by Stalin.


  Nor has the Kremlin ruler "built illusions as far as personal devotion to himself is concerned." Putin is very much aware, Ikhlov suggests, that those who show loyalty to him now could and would easily show loyalty to someone else tomorrow, an awareness that also has consequences for his policies

At the same time, the Russian commentator continues, Aleksey Navalny "cannot be such a leader either."  It may be, Ikhlov says, that this is because like Putin, he is a lawyer and lawyers by their very nature aren't inclined to the messianism that fascist leaders typically and perhaps necessarily must reflect.

Thus, for the time being, the transformation of Russia into a fascist state is being delayed not by strong legal structures but by the absence of a leader, an important but not necessarily permanent state of affairs.

At the end of his essay, Ikhlov reports the following: "About 30 years ago, the now late Andrey Fadin told me that Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin were similarly authoritarian in their natures and that had Dzhugashvili been president of the US he would have operated like Roosevelt and had Roosevelt been chosen general secretary of the Bolshevik party he would have behaved in a Stalinist manner."

That conclusion highlights three things: the importance of institutions, the importance of culture, and the importance of individual leaders. In many places, institutions and culture are bulwarks against fascism. In Russia, unfortunately, the only check on them is the existence or non-existence of a leader prepared to move in that direction.
http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.fi/2016/12/russians-want-fascism-but-dont-yet-have.html
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda

kriittinen_ajattelija

QuoteVenäjän presidentti Vladimir Putin pitää tänään vuotuisen suuren lehdistötilaisuutensa
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005018817.html
Sipilän suosio toimittajien keskuudessa ei liene yhtä suuri.
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda

kriittinen_ajattelija

QuoteThe defenders of the Slavic land carry on their historical legacy in St Petersburg

Cossacks are often depicted as folkloric figures belonging to Russia's military past, like the protagonists of the famous painting Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks by Ilya Repin. The canvas is displayed in the Russian Museum of St Petersburg and pictures a slew of rambunctious warriors gathered around a table in the middle of a military camp.

Today, a similar gathering is taking place in the hotel Rus located in the centre of St Petersburg. A Cossack non-profit organisation called The Northern Slavic Stanitsa is holding one of its routine meetings.

The scene resembles Repin's romantic representation with a modern peculiarity. In the place of a military camp, the meeting is held in a small conference room, crowded with men in their 30s wearing camouflage uniforms. Some of them are carrying firearms. The emblem of the organisation hangs on the wall and displays the black, yellow and white background which clearly mimics the Russian Imperial banner.


State vigilantes

The Northern Slavic Staniza is one of several Cossack paramilitary organisations regulated by the federal law, On State Service of the Russian Cossacks. Vladimir Bakin, 35, is the leader of the group, or the ataman as they are referred to in the Cossack tradition. He can trace his Cossack ancestry to the Tsarist era, when Cossack communities were protecting the Russian Empire from external as well as internal threats.

Vladimir is deeply critical of how the Cossack's identity has been evolving in recent years: "Nowadays many people call themselves Cossacks just because they claim to be Cossacks' descendants and go around wearing traditional costumes. That is not the essence of being a Cossack, it is just a game, a sterile historical reconstruction," states the ataman.


He founded The Nordic Slavic Stanitsa in order to restore Cossacks' reputation and their active role in society. Since its foundation in 2008, Vladimir's organisation is regularly cooperating with the St Petersburg municipal police in securing public order in the northern capital. Typical targets of the Cossacks vigilantism are illegal alcohol sales and unlicensed street trading. Cossacks also cooperate with the police in identifying and raiding illegal immigrants' homes.

Vladimir is proud to highlight an increased degree of acknowledgement that the organisation enjoys among official law enforcement institutions. "The police is not just allowing us to help, they are looking forward to cooperate with us."

The headquarters of the Nordic Slavic Stanitsa is located somewhere in the Krasnogvardeysky district of St Petersburg. The ataman prefers not to reveal the exact address: "The location is not a secret, but it's not public either, just members are supposed to know where it is".

The organisation provides military training for all its members. Courses take place every week and encompass several disciplines like mixed martial arts, military strategy, and survival in extreme environmental conditions. Shooting practise is conducted with hunting firearms in conformity with the weapon legislation. Vladimir points out that every Russian citizen has the right to own a firearm after receiving the appropriate license.

The Cossack military tradition has been passed on through generations, from father to son. That is why military patriotic education of youngsters is also at the centre of Vladimir's group activity. According to the Cossack traditions, children should learn to love their motherland and be prepared to defend it.

"Cossacks have always been the guardians of ancestral tradition, a barrier between common people and the forces of evil. They always acted as defenders of the people, knights of goodness. They didn't only take part in many wars, they were also victorious in many of them. Napoleon himself learned to respect the Cossacks," Vladimir says.

Membership

Even though The Nordic Slavic Stanitsa welcomes every Russian citizen in its ranks who proves himself worthy, a few exceptions apply. Muslims are not accepted because they are considered too culturally distant, and even though women are allowed to take part in some of the activities, the organisation format is clearly male-oriented.

According to Vladimir, the contemporary Cossack is "a good family man, a patriot aware of his role, his mission and duty in this country, a man who knows exactly the reason why he exists."

Currently, the organisation counts around 50 active members, the majority of whom have already received advanced military training while serving in the Russian army. Many of them have been fighting in eastern Ukraine as volunteers on the side of the pro-Russian separatists.

As defenders of the motherland, the Cossacks are very much aware of the escalating confrontation between Russia and the west. "We are guardians of the State we were born in. We are guarantors of stability and we will not allow any Maidans, coups, or other intrigues planned by western puppeteers to happen in Russia," states ataman Vladimir.
http://www.prospektmag.com/2016/12/modern-cossacks-patriotic-defenders/
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda

JKN93

Hesari:"Filosofian opiskelijan ajatusrikos kuohuttaa Venäjällä"
.."sai neljän ja puolen vuoden tuomion yrityksestä osallistua terroristijärjestön toimintaan"..
juttu tuolta;
http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005020133.html


xor_rox

Putin on nyt vihainen.

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Mika

Quote from: UgriProPatria on 16.12.2016, 20:02:42
Putin on jo neljättä vuotta maailman vaikutusvaltaisin henkilö.

Häntä kunnioitetaan siis laajasti Pietarin kehäteiden ulkopuolellakin, jopa USA:ssa asti!

Putinin vaikutusvalta perustuu siihen, että hän on diktaattori 140 miljoonan asukkaan ydinasevaltiossa.Varsinaisesta kunnioitukssta ei voi puhua.  Öykkärimäinen kgb-mies herättää lähinnä päinvastaisia tunteita.
"Nigerian poliisi on pidättänyt vuohen epäiltynä autovarkaudesta"

xor_rox

Quote from: Mika on 26.12.2016, 02:47:51
...Varsinaisesta kunnioitukssta ei voi puhua.  Öykkärimäinen kgb-mies herättää lähinnä päinvastaisia tunteita.

Nimenomaan USA:ssa ovat monet alkaneet kysellä, että mikäs mies se Putin oikein onkaan, eikä aina niin negatiivisessa mielessä, kuin valtamedian propagandasta voisi päätellä. Jatkuvasti tulee vastaan kommentteja, joissa Putin yhdistetään nationalismiin ja hänet nähdään globalismin ja liberalismin vastavoimana. Suomen kannalta tilanne on tietysti hankala, kun meillä ei ole kohta helmaa, jonka alle talouspakotteinemme juoksisimme turvaan.

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törö

Quote from: JKN93 on 26.12.2016, 00:21:35
Hesari:"Filosofian opiskelijan ajatusrikos kuohuttaa Venäjällä"
.."sai neljän ja puolen vuoden tuomion yrityksestä osallistua terroristijärjestön toimintaan"..
juttu tuolta;
http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005020133.html

Mä annan Hesarille sen verran periksi, etten vihastu enkä jää kantamaan kaunaa kun ISIS iskee Suomessa, mutta on kuitenkin venäläisien oma asia, kuinka ne terroristeihin suhtautuvat. Vieraita kulttuureja pitää suvaita, tiätteks te?

stefani

Onko Venäjän patrioottisuuden ja Venäjän korruption välillä yhteys?

Jos venäläiset esimerkiksi arvostavat paljon järjetöntä armeijaansa, voisiko se aiheuttaa sen, että he hyväksyvät sitten myös paljon muuta järjettömyyttä siviilivirkamiehiltä?

MW

Quote from: Mika on 26.12.2016, 02:47:51
Quote from: UgriProPatria on 16.12.2016, 20:02:42
Putin on jo neljättä vuotta maailman vaikutusvaltaisin henkilö.

Häntä kunnioitetaan siis laajasti Pietarin kehäteiden ulkopuolellakin, jopa USA:ssa asti!

Putinin vaikutusvalta perustuu siihen, että hän on diktaattori 140 miljoonan asukkaan ydinasevaltiossa.Varsinaisesta kunnioitukssta ei voi puhua.  Öykkärimäinen kgb-mies herättää lähinnä päinvastaisia tunteita.

Öykkärimäisellä kgb-miehellä ei juuri ole "ihmisoikeus"-pidäkkeitä, mikä tekee miehestä astetta tehokkaamman toimijan. Voi jättää N-liiton aikaisten edeltäjiensä länteen kylvämän myrkkysienen omaan arvoonsa.

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Quote from: jostwix on 26.12.2016, 05:57:13
Onko Venäjän patrioottisuuden ja Venäjän korruption välillä yhteys?

Jos venäläiset esimerkiksi arvostavat paljon järjetöntä armeijaansa, voisiko se aiheuttaa sen, että he hyväksyvät sitten myös paljon muuta järjettömyyttä siviilivirkamiehiltä?

Aivopesua sukupolvesta toiseen. Venäläiset on saatu muutamissa sukupolvissa, jopa tuntemaan tarvetta omata sisäinen passi (Stalinin aikana passin uhohtaminen kotiin saattoi johtaa matkaan GULAGiin, jos sitä ei löytynyt miliisin kysyessä. Nykyisin mätkästä'vät noin 3000 ruplan sakot ja säätä'minen), vaikka asuisi ulkomailla ja se olisi - no ei tarpeellinen. Silti se hankintaan monista vaikeuksista ja venäläiserstä takkuavasta byrokratiasta huolimatta.

On luotu sellainen vapaaehtoinen pakko, joka sulkee aivot. Sama on syntynyt virkamiesten kohdalla. Lännen pikkubyrokratia vinotuttaa samoja, mutta iloisen idän täysin järjetön ja todella haittaava byrokratia sitten vain hyväksytään elämän tosiasiana..

Kansan monisukupolvinen aivopesu. Sieltä' se ratkaisu löytyy. Ruotsissa sama on tehty multikultille. Sitä on ajettu sisään joka virallisesta tuutista 1970-luvun alusta. Suomessa sama tuuba on olliut aktiivista vasta 90-luvun alusta.
Kestää parikymmentä vuotta ennen kuin suomalainen lapsi alkaa kuluttamisen sijasta tuottaa yhteiskunnalle jotain. Pakolaisen kohdalla kyse on luultavasti parista vuodesta. Siksi pidän puheita pakolaisten aiheuttamista kansantaloudellisista rasitteista melko kohtuuttomina.
- J. Suurpää, HS 21.4.1991

Mika

Quote from: MW on 26.12.2016, 07:48:45
Öykkärimäisellä kgb-miehellä ei juuri ole "ihmisoikeus"-pidäkkeitä, mikä tekee miehestä astetta tehokkaamman toimijan.

Ei ole juuri muitakaan pidäkkeitä.  Moskovan Carnegie Instituutin johtajalta (Dmitri Trenin) harvinaisen rohkeita kannanottoja seuraavassa Verkkouutisten jutussa https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/ulkomaat/vertailu_trump_putin-59441 

Trenin sanoo suoraan, ettei Venäjällä ole demokratiaa, vaan kaikesta päättää yksi mies: Vladimir Putin.  Selvää on, että tällaisella miehellä on paljon vaikutusvaltaa.  Kansan tyhmin osa varmaan myös kunnioittaa häntä.  Loput pidetään kurissa pelolla.
"Nigerian poliisi on pidättänyt vuohen epäiltynä autovarkaudesta"

UgriProPatria

Quote from: xor_rox on 26.12.2016, 03:31:51
Quote from: Mika on 26.12.2016, 02:47:51
...Varsinaisesta kunnioitukssta ei voi puhua.  Öykkärimäinen kgb-mies herättää lähinnä päinvastaisia tunteita.

Nimenomaan USA:ssa ovat monet alkaneet kysellä, että mikäs mies se Putin oikein onkaan, eikä aina niin negatiivisessa mielessä, kuin valtamedian propagandasta voisi päätellä. Jatkuvasti tulee vastaan kommentteja, joissa Putin yhdistetään nationalismiin ja hänet nähdään globalismin ja liberalismin vastavoimana. Suomen kannalta tilanne on tietysti hankala, kun meillä ei ole kohta helmaa, jonka alle talouspakotteinemme juoksisimme turvaan.

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Niinpä niin. "Kiittäkäämme" erityisesti suomalaisia valhemedioita ja ryssänvihaajia tästä nyt kehittyvästä sumpputilanteestamme.

kriittinen_ajattelija

QuoteToday on the 191st anniversary of the Decembrist uprising in 1825, Eurasianist leader and Putin crony Aleksandr Dugin has attacked those who took part as "Masonic" enemies of "their own people, the powers, the faith and the tsar," a reminder of just how difficult the year ahead will be as Russia marks the centenaries of the revolutions of 1917.

            In Soviet times, Dugin says, the Decembrists "were presented as bearers of progress and advanced ideas, and as fighters against the autocracy and supporters of democracy" whose only failure was the "bourgeois" one of not  using enough force and violence to achieve their ends (politobzor.net/show-117545-dekabristy-vosstali-protiv-svoego-naroda-derzhavy-very-i-carya.html).

                "In fact," the Eurasianist says, "the Decembrists were a Masonic sect which arose on the model of European Masonic lodges and with the very same goals – the undermining of traditional empires, the destruction of the Christian tradition and its replacement by the secular atheistic and Masonic cult ... and the transfer of power from the clergy and aristocracy to the urban bourgeoisie."

            Dugin continues: "The Russian Decembrists planned the murder of the tsar, the coming to power of a military junta, and the establishment of a Republic on the model of the US." Its members were "closely connected with Polish Masons," to whom the Decembrists planned to give independence and large portions of Russian lands.

            In short, he suggests, this criminal conspiracy "copied Western and especially American models" and wanted to "transform unique Orthodox Russian society into a copy of European nation states with a bourgeois-republican oligarchic system ... a liberal dictatorship which would destroy to the roots everything Russian, Orthodox and autocratic."

            "No one is saying," Dugin continues, "that there weren't problems in Russian society and that nothing needed to be done." In fact there were many, including serfdom, "but to kill the tsar, destroy the church, and hand over imperial territories to the devil knows whom" were not appropriate and cannot be forgiven.


            The Decembrists, which he dismisses "as a group of terrorist conspirators," only got as far as they did by "deceiving simple soldiers that the Constitution they backed was the wife of Grand Duke Constantine." Fortunately, he says, "they were stopped, disarmed and seized" in a timely fashion. Even "the dreamy tsar Aleksandr I" had banned Masonry three years earlier.

            "For loyal Russian conservatives, for every full-blooded Russian man ... the Decembrists are pure evil, their memory is accused, and their actions shameful," Dugin says.  Moreover, he argues, "if we don't view a terrorist as a terrorist, a murderer as a murderer and an agent of influence as an agent of influence, we risk that all these crimes will be repeated again and again."
http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.fi/2016/12/putin-ally-attacks-decembrists-as.html
:)
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda

kriittinen_ajattelija

Meanwhile in Russia.

Quote[/ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — Quietly, the number of Russians who have received a positive H.I.V. diagnosis passed the one million mark this year. There is, however, little indication that the government will commit adequate resources to stem the acceleration of the virus from high-risk groups into the general population.

About 850,000 Russians carry H.I.V. and an additional 220,000 have died since the late 1980s, said Vadim Pokrovsky, the longtime head of the Moscow-based Federal AIDS Center, who estimated that at least another 500,000 cases of H.I.V. have gone undiagnosed.

Although the label "epidemic" prompts denials from some senior officials, experts on the front lines like Mr. Pokrovsky are calling it just that. The overall estimate of victims constitutes about 1 percent of Russia's population of 143 million, enough to be considered an epidemic, they argued. Beyond that, they said that heterosexual sex would soon top intravenous drug use as the main means of infection.

At the St. Petersburg AIDS Center, Dr. Vinogradova, 41, has seen the prevalence among drug addicts shrink while cases among heterosexual couples soar.

Under World Health Organization guidelines, to reduce the spread of the disease, at least 90 percent of H.I.V.-positive patients should receive antiviral drugs.

In Russia, a little more than 37 percent receive such treatment, according to government statistics. "The prevention programs are not working, the coverage is not sufficient to break the curve," said Vinay P. Saldanha, the Unaids regional director for Eastern Europe and Central Asia.

Russia is among five countries that account for almost half the new infections globally; the others are South Africa, Nigeria, India and Uganda, according to Unaids figures, although in some of them, a much higher percentage of the overall population is infected.

Most of the $338 million annual Russian federal H.I.V. budget is spent on medicine, and almost nothing goes to preventive education. Veronika Skvortsova, the health minister, has repeatedly called expanding treatment programs a government priority. (The minister is not related to Andrei Skvortsov.) After a deep recession, however, little new money has materialized.

At the same time, the Russian Orthodox Church and some politicians promote "conservative values" as the best way to combat H.I.V.

Patriarch Kirill called for "moral education," stressing that the "establishment of family values, ideals of chastity and marital fidelity" should be at the forefront of curbing the virus.
Both the government and the church staunchly oppose sex education for children. One senior government official stated that classical literature was the best teacher.

The state also adamantly opposes methadone for drug addicts, sometimes denigrated as a "narcoliberal" scheme. In other countries, methadone programs are used both to treat and to monitor patients infected by intravenous needles.

The emphasis on traditional values dismays those fighting the disease. "Traditional values just means leaving everything as it is," Mr. Pokrovsky said. "If we have traditional values and do nothing, the epidemic will keep spreading."

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/world/europe/russia-hiv-epidemic.html?_r=0
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering." - Master Yoda

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Quote from: xor_rox on 26.12.2016, 02:18:01
Putin on nyt vihainen.

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No Putinilla on pokkaa käyttää "bezpredel"-taktiikoita. 80-luvulla palestiinalaiset erehtyivät kaappaamaan KGB-miehiä Libanonissa. KGB e neuvotellut tai maksanut lunnaita, kuten länsi omista agenteistaan. KGB-kaappasi kidnappaajien läheisiä ja pisti heidät lihoiksi. Kaappailu loppui. Sama somalimerirosvojen kanssa. Venäläiset pistivät kiinni saamansa piratit pieneen veneeseen ilman vettä, moottoria, radiota ja kompassia. Tönäisivät veneen irti aluksensa kyljestä keskellä merta. Piraatit kuolivat hitaasti merelle. Sen jälkeen somalipiraatit karttoivat venäläisiä laivoja.

Luultavasti ISIKsen kannattaa ottaa tuo tosissaan. Venäläiset tulevat kostamaan tuon verta ja lihaa säästämättä. Läntiset johtajat eivät moiseen nykyään pysty. Putin pystyy. Voi olla että kalifi tukehtuu lopulta poloniummaustettuun teehen?
Kestää parikymmentä vuotta ennen kuin suomalainen lapsi alkaa kuluttamisen sijasta tuottaa yhteiskunnalle jotain. Pakolaisen kohdalla kyse on luultavasti parista vuodesta. Siksi pidän puheita pakolaisten aiheuttamista kansantaloudellisista rasitteista melko kohtuuttomina.
- J. Suurpää, HS 21.4.1991

Nuivanlinna

Quote from: P on 28.12.2016, 17:48:01
Voi olla että kalifi tukehtuu lopulta poloniummaustettuun teehen?

Reps!!
Quote from: millla on 04.03.2016, 23:01:53
Pahinta Suomessa on tämän köyhyyden lisäksi henkinen köyhyys. Meiltä puuttuu horisontti, mihin katsoa ja mitä tavoitella.

Jukka Wallin

Quote from: P on 28.12.2016, 17:48:01
Quote from: xor_rox on 26.12.2016, 02:18:01
Putin on nyt vihainen.


No Putinilla on pokkaa käyttää "bezpredel"-taktiikoita. 80-luvulla palestiinalaiset erehtyivät kaappaamaan KGB-miehiä Libanonissa. KGB e neuvotellut tai maksanut lunnaita, kuten länsi omista agenteistaan. KGB-kaappasi kidnappaajien läheisiä ja pisti heidät lihoiksi. Kaappailu loppui. Sama somalimerirosvojen kanssa. Venäläiset pistivät kiinni saamansa piratit pieneen veneeseen ilman vettä, moottoria, radiota ja kompassia. Tönäisivät veneen irti aluksensa kyljestä keskellä merta. Piraatit kuolivat hitaasti merelle. Sen jälkeen somalipiraatit karttoivat venäläisiä laivoja.

Luultavasti ISIKsen kannattaa ottaa tuo tosissaan. Venäläiset tulevat kostamaan tuon verta ja lihaa säästämättä. Läntiset johtajat eivät moiseen nykyään pysty. Putin pystyy. Voi olla että kalifi tukehtuu lopulta poloniummaustettuun teehen?

Hmm Itse muistin oikein sen tapauksen, mutta joillakin on hieman hakusessa mitä tapahtui. Kyseessä oli niin sanottu "Spetsgruppa "A", also known as Alpha Group (a popular English name), or Alfa, whose official name is Directorate "A" of the FSB Special Purpose Center (TsSN FSB)"

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Wikipedia :   Alpha Group

Six years later, in October 1985, Alpha Group was dispatched to war-torn Beirut, Lebanon. The Kremlin was informed of the kidnapping of four Soviet diplomats by the militant group, the Islamic Liberation Organization (a radical offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood). It was believed that this was retaliation for the Soviet support of Syrian involvement in the Lebanese Civil War.[19] However, by the time Alpha arrived, one of the hostages had already been killed. Through a network of supporting KGB operatives, members of the task-force identified each of the perpetrators involved in the crisis, and once identified, began to take the relatives of these militants as hostages. Following the standard Soviet policy of no negotiations with terrorists, one of the hostages taken by Alpha Group had his testicles removed and sent to the militants before being killed. The warning was clear: more would follow unless the remaining hostages were released immediately.[20] The show of force worked, and for a period of 20 years no Soviet or Russian officials were taken captive, until the 2006 abduction and murder of four Russian embassy staff in Iraq. However, the veracity of this story has been brought into question. Another version says that the release of the Soviet hostages was the result of extensive diplomatic negotiations with the spiritual leader of Hezbollah, Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, who appealed to King Hussein of Jordan, and the leaders of Libya and Iran, to use their influence on the kidnappers.[21]

Tue Suomidemokraatit puolueeksi allekirjoittamalla kannattajakorttimme ja lähettämällä se meille.

kriittinen_ajattelija

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Russian leader Vladimir Putin today toured a Russian factory which is working on anti-ageing pills.

The 64 year old Kremlin president visited the Biocad plant in St Petersburg with ailing Kazakhstan leader Nursultan Nazarbayev, 76, who has failed so far to nominate his heir in his energy-rich central Asian state despite his advanced years.

As well as seeking a 'youth pill' in laboratory tests, the plant is also working on treatments to combat cancer.

   Of an anti-ageing breakthrough, scientist Alexander Karabelsk told Putin and Nazarbayev: 'We are expecting the first results within a year.
'Our goal is not to extend life but more to allow a person to improve the quality of life and feel younger in the older years.'
Such therapy should help reduce risks of cardiovascular disease and cancer which are the two main causes of mortality worldwide.
Should the clinical trials be successful, youth pills would allow increase life to 130 years in just 20 or 30 years, the two presidents were told.
Biocad is seen as Russia's leading innovative biotechnology company.
Under their respective constitutions, Putin is limited to one more six year term in office in the Kremlin, while technically Nazarbayev could go on for ever, if his health permits.


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JKN93

Muutaman vuoden vanha video jossa ollut puhetta Euroopasta kiertäny taas Twitterissä:
"Putin calls for cultural self preservation of European tradition, religion & race, criticizing today's globalists who ruin God's diversity."
(video teksteineen tuolta)
https://twitter.com/JPY_Kurdish/status/812759470669529088