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2011-08-31 YLE radiouutiset: Ryöstöt ja pahoinpitelyt lisääntyneet Sveitsissä

Started by JML, 31.08.2011, 11:44:11

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JML

Kuulin juuri äsken YLEn radiouutisista, kuinka Sveitsissä kerrotun mukaan ovat ryöstöt ja pahoinpitelyt lisääntyneet merkittävästi.

Radiouutisoinnissa lainattiin sveitsiläistä tahoa, joka arvelee ryöstelyjen lisääntyneen kullan hinnan nousun takia ja pahoinpitelyt puolestaan ovat lisääntyneet ulkona/ravintoloissa lisääntyneen juhlimisen seurauksena. Mihinkään muuhun suuntaan ei ryöstöjen ja pahoinpitelyjen lisääntymisten mahdollisia syitä avattu.

Tyypillisestihän ryöstöjen ja ulkona tapahtuvien pahoinpitelyjen lisääntymiset nyky-Euroopassa on totuttu liittämään maahanmuuttoon liittyvään problematiikkaan.

Kuka tietää jotain Sveitsin tilanteesta? Olisiko perusteltua olettaa, että viitatun kaltainen lisääntynyt rikollisuus olisi jotenkin kytköksissä maahanmuuttoteemaan?

Jos hyviä perusteita löytyy kytkeä ilmiötä maahanmuuttoteemaan, ja YLE sujuvasti ohittaa tällaiset tekijät, voidaan YLEn jälleen kerran esittää harjoittavan suomalaisten harhaanjohtamista jonkinlaisen propagandan avulla.

Elemosina

En tarkemmin tiedä, mutta googlasin. Löytyi tällaista wikipediasta:
QuoteImmigrant criminality

The crime rate among resident foreigners ("immigrant criminality") is significantly higher (by a factor 3.7 counting convictions under criminal law in 2003).[6] In 1997, there were for the first time more foreigners than Swiss among the convicts under criminal law (out of a fraction of 20.6% of the total population at the time). In 1999, the Federal Department of Justice and Police ordered a study regarding delinquency and nationality (Arbeitsgruppe "Ausländerkriminalität"), which in its final report (2001) found that a conviction rate under criminal law about 12 times higher among asylum seekers (4%), while the conviction rate among other resident foreigners was about twice as high (0.6%) compared to Swiss citizens (0.3%).[7]

In 2010 for the first time was a statistic published which listed delinquency by nationality (based on 2009 data). To avoid distortions due to demographic structure, only the male population aged between 18 and 34 was considered for each group. From this study it became clear that crime rate is highly correlated on the country of of origin of the various migrant groups. Thus, immigrants from Germany, France and Austria had a significantly lower crime rate than Swiss citizens (60% to 80%), while immigrants from Angola, Nigeria and Algeria had a crime rate of above 600% of that of Swiss population. In between these extremes were immigrants from Former Yugoslavia, with crime rates of between 210% and 300% of the Swiss value.[8]

The full report listed 24 nationalities plus the crime rate of Swiss citizens (fixed at 100%), and the average value of all foreign citizens combined, at 160%. Commentators expressed surprise[9] at the clear geographical structure of the list, giving, in decreasing order, Africa, the Middle East and the Balkans, Southern Europe and Western and Central Europe. The Federal Statistics Office published the study with the caveat that the sizes of the groups under comparison vary considerably. For example, the net impact of a crime rate increased by 530% among 500 Angolans will still be five times smaller than a crime rate increased by 30% among 46'000 Portuguese.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Switzerland


Linkin takaa löytyy listaus rikollisuudesta kansalaisuuden mukaan.
Avoimilla rajoilla tuhottiin avoin yhteiskunta
EU-turistien CV http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,6906.msg1324730.html#msg1324730

chacha2

www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_news/Switzerland_loses_safest_country_accolade.html?cid=31023508
The rise in street violence was probably due to Swiss nightlife picking up, according to Killias, a Zurich University criminology  professor.

Meanwhile the rise in robberies could be a result of the increased value of stolen goods such as gold, as well as a boom in organised gang crime, Killias noted.

More gangs were targeting Switzerland,he said, in part because of the light penal sentences handed down by Swiss courts- this a result of the "problematic revision" of the law in recent years to address serious overcrowding in Swiss prisons.

"If I was a member of a gang in Lyon [in France] I would certainly target Geneva," he added.

To reverse the trends, he recommends handing down harsher penalties and improved compensation for victims.


www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss_news/Assault_sparks_disquiet_at_Geneva_insecurity.html?cid=30919344
The police say no one has been arrested so far in connection with the assault, which took place in the centre of Geneva at 4am on July 16, but which has only now gained further attention.

The victim- who was only identified as the son of an American diplomat- was allegedly attacked as he crossed the Pont de  l'Ile by up to a dozen assailants who beat him with metal rods and attempted to throw him into the river Rhone before a passing cyclist passed the alarm.

He reportedly suffered small fractions to his back, as well as cuts and bruises, and was recovering but said to be extremely shocked by the incident.
......
A local businessman who have been directly involved in the on-going problems pointed the fingers at a group of 200-plus hardcore petty criminals from North Africa, who he said had continued to prey on tourists and  passers-by over the past five years.

Speaking anonymously, he told  swissinfo.ch: "The same group of predators is still active; they are arrested and released and still here; they have fine-tuned their methods and know thet nothing can happen to them."

"The police are more present but it's a political problem. We have to practise targeted preventive detention", he added.

This is the legal option of imprisoning asylum seekers who are repeat  offenders for up to 24 months while preparing for their return home. Other cantons follow the option, but the option is not used very often in Geneva.


¨It is dangerous to be right in matters about which the established authorities are wrong.¨
Voltaire

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance"
Albert Einstein

Veli Karimies

Sveitsiläisten osuus tuomituista näyttäisi laskeneen kymmeniä prosenttiyksiköitä sitten vuoden 85.

Hyvä vuosi muuten tuo 1985. Sillon maailmassa sai alkunsa paljon hyviä asioita. ;D

Octavius

No - jos käytetään lähteenä vaikka most wanted -listaa, niin syyllistyväthän sveitsiläisetkin vakaviin rikoksiin. Listalla on sentään 3,5 % sveitsiläisiä. Mitään johtopäätöksiä ei siis voi tästä tehdä.

http://www.swisspolice.ch/e/1_persfdg/aktuell1.htm

Vaikka johtopäätöksiä ei voikaan tehdä, niin tähän voi sitten listata syitä, miksi vertailu on täysin epäkelpo ja tarkoitushakuinen:
Valtiovarainministeri Jyrki Kataisen (kok.) mukaan Irlannin vaikea tilanne todistaa ilman pienintäkään epäilystä, että Kreikan lainajärjestelyjen arvostelijat olivat väärässä.

nuiv-or

Kesällä tuli ranskalaiselta tv5-kanavalta dokumentti Sveitsin rikollisuudesta. Syyttäjä sanoi aika suoraan, että syynä on "kansojen sekoitus" (brassage des peuples), ja että ulkomaalaiset ovat paljon törkeämpiä, ryöstävät mummoja ja puukotukset herkässä. Saattaa olla tallessa, katselen löydänkö.