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2015-11-23 Kanadan tilanne ja maahanmuuttopolitiikka (yhdistetty)

Started by Blanc73, 23.11.2015, 10:18:13

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qwerty

Quote2018-04-14 National Post: Public govt. debate could undermine overall Canadian support for immigration, according to department data
QuoteOTTAWA — The federal government has been warned to take a cautious approach to publicly debating immigration over fears of reaching a "tipping point" that could undermine public support for welcoming immigrants.

Internal data prepared by the Immigration Department for a committee of deputy ministers suggests a majority of Canadians supports current immigration levels, but this support drops when they are informed of how many immigrants actually arrive every year.
QuoteThe internal departmental data was obtained by The Canadian Press through access-to-information. It includes polling data that suggests just over 50 per cent of Canadians believed the number of immigrants who come to Canada every year is "about right" and this number has remained steady since 2012.
QuoteBut most of those respondents believed the number of immigrants arriving every year was under 150,000. After they were told is has actually been 260,000 for the last few years, the number of people who then said they felt that was "too many" jumped from 23 to 32 per cent.
QuoteGlobal events affect opinions on immigration, notably the drowning of three-year-old Syrian refugee, Alan Kurdi, in 2015.
Quote"Engagement with the Canadian public is necessary, however, any high-profile debate will have to be carefully managed," the department advised.
Jotenkin tulee aivan erilaiset maat kuin Kanada mieleen tuollaisesta ohjeistuksesta :P
Quote"About 30 per cent of Canadians think immigration levels are too high ... There's a cluster of people who are simply opposed. At the other extreme, there's another group who are super keen,","In the middle, are what we call the conditional multiculturalists.
QuoteGiven this complexity of opinions, it is possible to mobilize and shift public opinion in favour or against the idea of immigration (kuten yllämainittu median vuonna 2015 surutta (pun intended) rummuttama tapaus.)
QuoteImmigration Minister Ahmed Hussen's press secretary, Mathieu Genest, told The Canadian Press the government's three-year immigration plan was developed after hearing feedback from consultations held across the country.

"We are certain that we have a vision that Canadians believe in," Genest said.
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

acc

Kanadan maahanmuuttoministeri on Mogadishussa lapsuutensa viettänyt Ahmed Hussen. Vuonna 1976 Somalissa syntynyt Hussen tuli viidentoista vuoden ikäisenä Kanadaan 1991. Hän on lakimies ja Liberaali-puoleen jäsen. Hän myös johtaa järjestöä nimeltään Canadian Somali Congress.

Quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Hussen
Before his entry into politics, Hussen practised Criminal Law, Immigration and Refugee Law, and Human Rights Law at his office in Toronto.[3]

Tällainen ihminen vaikuttaa Kanadan hallintoon ja tulevaisuuteen.
2017 Personality 13: Existentialism via Solzhenitsyn and the Gulag
(Huomaa: käsittämätön feministin raivokohtaus, kohta 42:00 eteenpäin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w84uRYq0Uc8

Lady Deadpool

Kanadan maahanmuuttoministeri Ahmed Hussen on joutunut etnisen profiloinnin kohteeksi mm. kauppareissuillaan. Hussen kutsuu Liberaalit taistelemaan rasismia vastaan.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/hussen-racial-profiling-diversity-1.4628695 (21.4.2018)

QuoteImmigration minister says he was target of racial profiling, calls on Liberals to fight racism

Ahmed Hussen says he was stopped by police, followed in stores because he is black

Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen said Friday he has experienced racial profiling first-hand in Canada, and he's calling on his fellow Liberals to fight racism.

Speaking to delegates at the party's convention in Halifax, Hussen said that, when he was younger, police cars would screech to a halt in front of him when he was out for an evening stroll, stopping to question him just because he's black.

"This experience wasn't unique to me, but an officer would come to me and say, 'Where are you going, what's in your pockets, where have you been,'" said Hussen, who came to Canada as a refugee from Somalia. "Much later, having to be bothered at a grocery store, being followed around just because of the colour of my skin."

While he called the incidents "debilitating," Hussen said he learned to deal with them. And while he doesn't think racism is as prevalent here as it is in some other countries, Hussen said Canada must do more to confront it.

"The fact of the matter is when you look at those experiences, you realize we have a long way to go for inclusion, and these conversations must be had and continue to be had, because this is a reality for so many of us," he said.

Hussen said the Trudeau government has invested in combating racism and supporting marginalized and racialized people, but he urged fellow Liberals to take a personal stake in confronting bias. He called on convention delegates to "fight fear with facts."

Confront discrimination, exclusion


"When you are in a room, ask yourself who's not being included in that room. When you're at the table, think about how you can expand that table," he said.

"And if that involves having difficult conversations, then so be it."

As many countries struggle with an anti-immigrant backlash, Hussen said it's critical to avoid feeding racial and cultural anxieties through "fearmongering."

"It's already here, but luckily for us here in Canada, it's not the prevalent view. Even that view, we need to engage and acknowledge that it exists. We don't need to label people," he told CBC News after his speech.

He said Canada can keep anti-immigration sentiment at bay through efficient resettlement services, and by explaining to Canadians why the country needs newcomers to fund public services and fill labour gaps.

"We need to showcase why Canada needs immigration, because the data doesn't lie
," he said.
Sarjavihaaja.

Lady Deadpool

Ahmed Hussen on laittanut tuulemaan.

http://theconversation.com/finally-some-changes-to-health-based-discrimination-in-canadian-immigration-law-93340 (13.5.2018)

QuoteAs it currently stands, there is health-based discrimination in Canadian law. The system disadvantages the diseased and disabled.

Restrictions preventing people with disease and disability from permanently immigrating are longstanding features of how Canadian borders have been and are enforced. Applicants for permanent immigration are ineligible if state-employed physicians anticipate their care and treatment to be above $6,655 a year.

On April 16, federal Immigration Minister Ahmed Hussen announced that there will be three adjustments to Section 38-1-C of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA), the section of the law that deals with "medical inadmissibility due to excessive demand."

The three changes are:

The financial threshold for excluding applicants was increased to $20,000 a year.

Speculated future cost of care on public social services no longer applies.

Applicants with certain health conditions might now find it possible to permanently immigrate.


For years in Canada there has been collective mobilization to repeal Section 38-1-C. To date, there have also been two Charter of Rights and Freedoms' challenges aimed at eradicating health-based discrimination in Canadian immigration law.
Sarjavihaaja.

Golimar

Tästä tulee ensimmäiseksi mieleen pila mutta mistä sitä tietää mitä muslimien sekavissa aivoissa muhii.

QuotePolice Obtain Letter That Threatens Safety Of Bracebridge And Gravenhurst Beaches

Late in April, the Towns of Bracebridge and Gravenhurst received reports of some hazardous materials being found at several area beaches.

In response to the materials being found, both municipalities temporarily closed the beach areas and initiated a clean-up of the hazardous materials found at beach locations within the municipalities.

On May 11, 2018, Bracebridge and Gravenhurst were provided with a letter received by the Huntsville newspaper. The letter  set out new information threatening the safety of the beaches in the Muskoka region.

Upon receipt of the correspondence, the letter was immediately forwarded  to the Bracebridge OPP by Town staff. The Bracebridge OPP Commander confirms that the letter  has been received by the Huntsville OPP for the OPP Crime Unit to investigation.

Additional updates on the investigation will be provided as they become available.

As a result of the hazardous materials previously found, the municipalities have implemented enhanced inspections of the beaches within the two communities. Bracebridge and Gravenhurst are committed to ensuring the health and safety of the beach areas within the two communities and will continue to take proactive steps to monitor beach areas and to clean up any materials found. Beach areas may close temporarily to ensure health and safety of the public if necessary.

Anyone with information is asked to report suspicious activity or acts of vandalism to the OPP or if you wish to remain anonymous, contact Crime Stoppers.

Muskoka411 has obtained the letter

http://muskoka411.com/start/police-obtain-letter-that-threatens-safety-of-bracebridge-and-gravenhurst-beaches/

Skeptikko

Influx of irregular refugees has reached crisis level for most Canadians, poll suggests
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/influx-of-irregular-refugees-has-reached-crisis-level-for-most-canadians-poll-suggests

QuoteOTTAWA — The majority of Canadians believe irregular migration into the country has reached a crisis point, according to a new poll, suggesting immigration and refugees will be a major wedge issue in the 2019 election.

The survey comes as departmental estimates prepared for Canada's budget watchdog show the federal government spent more than $85 million dealing with the influx of irregular asylum seekers during the last fiscal year, and faces a much larger bill this year as provinces call on Ottawa to cover their costs as well.
...
According to the new survey from the Angus Reid Institute, two thirds of respondents believe that Canada has taken in too many irregular asylum claimants for authorities to manage, including majorities of Conservative, Liberal and NDP voters. The results also show that nearly half of respondents overestimate the number of irregular border crossers Canada has received.
...
The findings suggest "that asylum-seekers and border security are areas of vulnerability for the Liberal Party," according to the pollster. Recent survey results from Abacus Data also found that among voters who want a change in government, immigration and refugees ranked as the second reason they're dissatisfied, behind deficits and debt.
...
According to the RCMP, 11,420 asylum seekers have entered Canada between official border crossings from Jan. 1 to July 15, 2018. Last year, there were 20,953 irregular crossings in total, up from just 2,486 in 2016. The vast majority have entered at an unofficial crossing point in Quebec.

En homona toivota tervetulleiksi Suomeen henkilöitä, jotka haluavat tappaa minut:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33565055

Tanskan pakolaisapu: hallitsematon tulijatulva johtamassa armageddoniin ja yhteiskuntamme tuhoon:
http://jyllands-posten.dk/international/europa/ECE7963933/Sammenbrud-truer-flygtningesystem/

Skeptikko

They lost fingers entering Canada. Then what happened? - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44865022

QuoteSeidu Mohammed and Razak Iyal nearly died in 2016 while sneaking across the Canada-US border during a frigid late December, hoping to gain asylum. Their experience made them the public faces of a wave of migrants to Canada who followed soon after.
...
A one-time professional player from Ghana, his career was derailed when he was outed as bisexual while training in Brazil in 2014.

He never returned home, fearing persecution for his sexuality in his country, and instead starting on a fateful journey that brought him to a Minneapolis bus station on Christmas Eve, 2016.

There he met Razak Iyal, 36, a fellow Ghanaian who had fled the west African nation when a family dispute over his father's estate turned violent.

Both men were facing deportation back to Ghana after being denied refugee status in the US.

Instead they risked crossing into Canada, finding themselves struggling through a waist-deep field of snow in the night-time bid to cross the boundary between southern Manitoba and northern Minnesota.
...
Both had their fingers amputated due to frostbite and spent the next three months in hospital in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
...
Over 30,000 other asylum seekers have followed in Mohammed and Iyal's footsteps, illegally crossing the border before turning themselves over to authorities to make refugee claims.
...
A recent poll indicated that two-thirds of Canadians felt the current situation constituted a "crisis" - that the country's ability to handle to newcomers was stretched to the limit.

There are over 200,000 pending asylum claims, and the wait for hearings by Canada's refugee board have edged up to an average of twenty months.

Of the fraction of cases that have been processed, just less than half have been accepted by Canada as refugees.

The Trudeau government has always openly welcomed refugees and immigrants into the country. But they began to temper their message, warning that seeking asylum is not a "free ticket" into Canada as more and more migrants began arriving at the border.
....
Both still need help lacing their shoes, Iyal at the mosque, or Mohammed on the pitch.

Iyal is thankful he still has one thumb, which gives him some dexterity.
...
Iyal is taking business classes, hoping to launch an electronics business, like the one he had back in Ghana, and hire refugees, and he hopes to one day reunite with the wife he left behind.
En homona toivota tervetulleiksi Suomeen henkilöitä, jotka haluavat tappaa minut:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33565055

Tanskan pakolaisapu: hallitsematon tulijatulva johtamassa armageddoniin ja yhteiskuntamme tuhoon:
http://jyllands-posten.dk/international/europa/ECE7963933/Sammenbrud-truer-flygtningesystem/

Alaric

https://twitter.com/HommaFI/status/1047225317243453440

[tweet]1047225317243453440[/tweet]

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/10/02/right-wing-anti-mass-migration-party-wins-historic-majority-quebec-election/ (2.10.2018)

QuoteRight-Wing Anti Mass Migration Party Wins Historic Majority in Quebec, Canada Election

The right-wing anti-mass migration Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ) has won a historic majority in Canada's French-speaking province, promising smaller government and improved border controls.

The party managed to oust the former ruling Liberal Party on Monday winning a majority of seats in Quebec which has been governed by either the centre-left Liberals or the separatist centre-left Parti Québécois for the last five decades, the CBC reports.

The CAQ, led by François Legault who was a former member of the Parti Québécois and formed the CAQ in 2011, campaigned on a mix of a traditional conservative platforms that included promises to reduce the size of the provincial government, as well as more populist policies on the topic of immigration.

(...)
Ei ota vieraat milloinkaan
kallista perintöänne.
Tulkoot hurttina aroiltaan!
Mahtuvat multaan tänne.

no future

Nyt Breitbartti vetelee vähän mutkia suoraksi. Tuo puolue on tyypillisen keskustalainen, olematta oikein mitään ääripäätä missään asiassa. Edes Quebecin perinteisen poliittisen jakolinjan, eli itsenäisyyden suhteen puolue ei halua lukita juuta eikä jaata. "Kovat" Maahanmuuttovastaiset puheet puolestaan tarkoittavat Quebecissä sitä, että Legault haluaisi vähentää maahanmuuttajien määrää 20% nykyisestä 40-50 000.

Roope

^Mitä mutkia? Missä puhutaan ääripäistä?

Tuo 20 prosentin vähennystavoite mainitaan Breitbartin jutussa, ja kyllä se minusta täsmää "massamaahanmuuttovastaisuuden" kanssa, etenkin kun puolue vaatii tulijoilta muun muassa kielikokeen läpäisemistä. Näin puolue haastaa kaiken maahanmuuton siunauksellisuutta ylistävän federalistisen hallituksen.
Mediaseuranta - Maahanmuuttoaiheiset uutiset, tiedotteet ja tutkimukset

Skeptikko

Heron Gate mass eviction: 'We never expected this in Canada'
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/heron-gate-mass-eviction-expected-canada-180817200106463.html

QuoteAbout 150 homes in one of Ottawa's most diverse and affordable communities are expected to be torn down in coming months
...
The bathroom light fixture has been broken for months, while the outer glass of a double-paned window is missing off the first-floor room Mohamed's disabled 18-year-old daughter sleeps in, in a hospital bed. In the winter, cold air seeps in, making the teenager ill.

But this home is all Mohamed has ever known since she moved to Canada with her family from their native Somalia in 2014.
...
Several families have found new homes, but despite seeing other places and scouring the listings every day, Mohamed hasn't found anything affordable that can accommodate her large family and its needs.

"I came to Canada thinking it was an escape, only to realise it's like torture," she says in Somali through a translator.

"People are playing with our lives," adds her husband, Jamale Ibrahim.

"Winter and the cold is coming," Mohamed says, "and we have nowhere to go."
...
However, several families who remain in Heron Gate say they're struggling to find alternative housing that meets their needs and doesn't exceed their budgets.

Mumina Egal, a member of the Heron Gate Tenant Coalition, which advocates on behalf of the residents facing eviction, said families of eight or nine people are being told to look at two-bedroom apartments, much smaller than what they need.
...
A recent article in the Ottawa Citizen bore the headline, "Rising rents and cutthroat competition". The newspaper reported that "Ottawa's residential rental market has recently become red-hot, with demand and prices ballooning and vacancies increasingly scarce".
...
But a resident, Amina, who didn't give Al Jazeera her last name out of fear of reprisals, keeps her food in closed rubbish bags because her kitchen is overrun by cockroaches.

A handful of bugs scurry into the cracks of the cupboards, as she opens them, one by one, to illustrate the problem. She has more than half a dozen sticky anti-cockroach traps around the room, in the corners and in a space between the fridge and a cabinet; each was full of insects.

"What we're living right now is not a life," the mother of four says.
...
However, the need for affordable housing far exceeds availability in Ottawa.

About 10,500 families are currently on a subsidised housing waiting list, which gives them access to "rent-geared-to-income assistance and associated housing benefits", said Shelley VanBuskirk, director of the city's housing department.

Wait times are four years or more, on average, she said in an email.

Kannattaako moraalisäteillä ottamalla sisään ovista ja ikkunoista enemmän väkeä kuin mistä pystytään kunnolla selviämään, josta asuntopula ja sen seurauksena myös korkeat hinnat ovat yksi seuraus. Heikosti koulutetut kehitysmaista muuttajat selviävät huonosti maassa, jossa koulutus merkitsee paljon ja jossa ankaran ilmastojen ja kalliiden elinkustannusten takia on vaikea pärjätä kehitysmaataustalla.
En homona toivota tervetulleiksi Suomeen henkilöitä, jotka haluavat tappaa minut:
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33565055

Tanskan pakolaisapu: hallitsematon tulijatulva johtamassa armageddoniin ja yhteiskuntamme tuhoon:
http://jyllands-posten.dk/international/europa/ECE7963933/Sammenbrud-truer-flygtningesystem/

Alaric

https://twitter.com/HommaMedia/status/1147534167095169024

[tweet]1147534167095169024[/tweet]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/refugees-tolerance-1.5192769 (3.7.2019)

QuoteMajority of Canadians against accepting more refugees, poll suggests

A pre-election survey conducted for CBC News suggests Canadians are divided on immigration, with clear limits on the kind of migration they find acceptable.

The government groups immigrants into three categories: economic, which are skilled workers and businesspeople, along with their partners and dependants; family reunification; and refugees or those admitted under humanitarian or compassionate grounds.

More than three-quarters (76 per cent) of respondents to a survey by Public Square Research and Maru/Blue agreed that Canada should do more to encourage skilled labourers to immigrate to the country, while 57 per cent said Canada should not be accepting more refugees.

The results come as no surprise to immigration experts and advocates, who point to a negative shift in tone on migration around the world, especially when it comes to refugees. They say that trend is stoked by media coverage in Canada of asylum seekers crossing the country's border with the U.S.

'Drastic decline' in welcoming of refugees

One organization in Manitoba says it is seeing that shift first-hand.

"There's been a drastic decline in the acceptance and the welcoming, specifically of refugees," said Dorota Blumczynska, executive director of the Immigrant and Refugee Community Organization of Manitoba. Her family came as privately sponsored refugees to Canada nearly three decades ago.

(...)

Christina Clark-Kazak, a University of Ottawa professor who specializes in refugees and immigration, said the survey results reflect a long-standing tradition of Canadian immigration policy being centred around labour market needs. Under both Conservative and Liberal governments over the past decade, economic immigrants have made up between 53 and 63 per cent of immigrants each year, according to Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) data.

"The problem with a lot of the immigration policy is we think about individuals in isolation, and we think about them only as economic actors," she said.

Refugees, she added, are often seen as a "nice-to-have" by policy-makers but not a priority.

(...)

Of the 3,112 people who answered the above:

64 per cent said illegal immigration is becoming a serious problem.
56 per cent said that accepting too many immigrants will change Canada.
24 per cent said too many immigrants are visible minorities.

(...)

'Thin veneer of tolerance'

"I think it is reflective that there is this sort of thin veneer of tolerance, but underneath there is a lot of racism that still exists in Canada," said Clark-Kazak.

She said the Canadian context is also influenced by language coming out of the U.S., from a president she sees as anti-refugee, anti-immigration and anti-Islam. That discourse, she said, is seeping into both the political sphere and everyday life.

Other experts say Canada is not immune to this trend.

"Canada is not unique," said Mireille Paquet, a political science professor at Concordia University and research chair on the politics of immigration. "Canada might have been more protected from some of the trends we see in Europe or in the United States, for example, but recent events show that Canadians also react the same way to this kind of growing politicization of immigration."

With a federal election looming later this year, Paquet says the issue could become further polarized.

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Ei ota vieraat milloinkaan
kallista perintöänne.
Tulkoot hurttina aroiltaan!
Mahtuvat multaan tänne.

colt

Liberaalien kultapoika Trudeau uppoaa kovaa vauhtia, jo kolme eri blackface tapausta menneisyydestä tullut esiin.
Lisääkin voi olla kun Trudeau ei muista montako kertaa on se naama tullut maalattua.
Trudeau katuu kovasti ja syyttää yläluokkaista taustaansa tapauksista.?

Vaalit ovat kuukauden päästä ja Trudeau ei ole esittänyt ajatustakaan eroamisesta.
Eiköhän tuo saa Hussein al-Taeen kohtelun ja kohta kaikki unohdettu kun vain muistaa tarpeeksi katua,
Ja onhan se Trudeau vaan niin ihana.


-PPT-

Kanadassa on tänään vaalit. Taitaa Trudeau voittaa pelkästään siksi että oppositio hajosi. Pääoppositiopuolue on täysin cuckoomus kun taas siitä eronnut siipi ei vaan ole tarpeeksi suuri ja Kanadassa on FPTP vaalijärjestelmä.

kivimies

Itseasiassa kaikki mielipidekyselyt ennustavat, että Liberal menettää paikkoja, eikä saa enää enemmistöä parlamenttiin (2015 Liberal sai enemmistön voittamalla 7,6%:n erolla ja 39,5%:n ääniosuudella). Mielipidekyselyt ovat näyttäneet pientä eroa Liberal- ja Conservative -puolueiden välillä. Molemmat joutuvat ilmeisesti hakemaan enemmistöä muiden puolueiden tuella.

New Democratic tulee olemaan 3. suurin puolue, mutta sillä tulee olemaan tiukkaa säilyttääkseen paikkansa.

Bloc Quebecois tulee kyselyiden perusteella saamaan runsaasti lisäpaikkoja.

Oheisissa twiiteissä on mielipidekyselyitä ja eri toimijoiden tekemiä paikkaennusteita:

[tweet]1186110625237389312[/tweet]
[tweet]1186264535499526144[/tweet]

Edit: Tuloksia voi seurata täältä:
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/federal/2019/results/

Äänestyspaikat sulkeutuvat aamuyöllä klo 2-5 Suomen aikaa provinssista riippuen, joten tulosten pitäisi olla selvillä huomenna aamulla.

Vaniljaihminen

Quote from: colt on 20.09.2019, 16:03:36
Liberaalien kultapoika Trudeau uppoaa kovaa vauhtia, jo kolme eri blackface tapausta menneisyydestä tullut esiin.
Lisääkin voi olla kun Trudeau ei muista montako kertaa on se naama tullut maalattua.
Trudeau katuu kovasti ja syyttää yläluokkaista taustaansa tapauksista.?

Blackfaceissa ei ole mitään vikaa.

Trudeaun todellisista virheistä ollaan oltu meikämediassa aivan hiljaa, pahin tietysti on se, että "kotoutuksessa" olevalle islamistille maksetaan maltaita kun kanadalainen sotainvalidi kärsii köyhyydestä.
"Meillä on niin ihana hallitus mutta miehet vihaa.."

simppali

Tässä linkki ....

Toivottavasti komukoiden ja ranskan pikku napoleonin ihannoima Trudeaun saa kunnolla pallukoilleen ja poistuu.

https://www.google.com/search?q=canada+election+2019&oq=canada&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0l5.7226j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Tänään kun heräilen iltapäivällä, niin vaalea unelma sanoo; joit sitten pullon viskiä sekä muutaman oluen..voi puolustuksen puolesta, edm. kiistämättä vastata: seurasin Kanadan parlamenttivaaleja.
Kun painuvi päät muun kansan, maan,
Me jääkärit uskoimme yhä.

-PPT-

Liberaalit saivat vähemmän ääniä kuin cuckservatiivit mutta enemmän paikkoja. Nyt varmasti Trudeau saa samalla tavalla paskaa niskaansa kuin Trump koska ei voittanut koko maan äänissä. ;D

Keza

^Naureskelin samaa, vilkaisin useampaa "vastuullisen median" nettisivua, mutta äänten jakautumista ei kerrottu missään niistä. BBC tietysti kertoi
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50134640
eli konservatiivit 34,4% ja Trudeaun liberaalit 33.0%

Eihän se tietysti ole "vastuulliselle medialle" ongelma, jos vaalijärjestelmässä näin päin tulos vääntyy. Eikä minullekaan muttei ollut jenkkien pressavaalienkaan tulos ongelma minulle. Eri vaalijärjestelmissä on hyvät ja huonot puolensa, jos kuitenkin suht tasapuolisia eri puolueille, niin mikä minä olen valittamaan, hyötyi siitä minulle mieluisa tai epämieluisa porukka.

kivimies

Quote from: -PPT- on 22.10.2019, 15:45:24
Liberaalit saivat vähemmän ääniä kuin cuckservatiivit mutta enemmän paikkoja. Nyt varmasti Trudeau saa samalla tavalla paskaa niskaansa kuin Trump koska ei voittanut koko maan äänissä. ;D
Ihmettelin itsekin tuota paikkojen jakautumista äänimäärään nähden. Liberal ei silti saanut enemmistöä, vaan joutuu hakemaan tukea NDP:ltä tai BQ:lta. 

On mahdollista, että seuraavat vaalit pidetään ennen vuotta 2023.

Harperin vähemmistöhallitukset 2006-2011 kestivät 2 vuotta ja 7 kuukautta ja 2 vuotta ja 4 kuukautta.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_minority_governments_in_Canada