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Started by qwerty, 01.07.2017, 02:09:59

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qwerty

UKIP puolueen puheenjohtaja Paul Nuttall erosi 9.6., lievästi alakanttiin menneiden parlamenttivaalien jälkeen (0 paikkaa ja 1.8% äänistä - 2015 vaalissa saivat 1 paikan ja 12.6% äänistä)

MutuPedia: UK Independence Party leadership election, 2017
QuoteEhdokasilmoittautumisia on otettu vastaan 23.6. alkaen. Kisaan ovat virallisesti ilmoittautuneet David Coburn, Ben Walker ja Peter Whittle. Sekä Anne Marie Waters. Ehdakasasettelu päättyy 28.7. Uusi puheenjohtaja julistetaan 29.9.

Anne Marie Waters (jäljempänä AMW) kerännee valtaosan ehdokkaiden mediahuomiosta. Voi hyvällä syyllä sanoa että hän ei ole puolueen eliitin suosikki.
QuoteVivian Evans, Editor in Chief for UKIP Daily kirjoitti torstaina jutun Appalling and outrageous

I am appalled.

What has our Party, what has UKIP become?
QuoteOn June 22nd, Bill Etheridge wrote a remarkable article in the Daily Telegraph where he called supporters of AMW 'neo-fascist entryists' and compared them to ... nazis (see the letters in our Letters Column here).

Also on June 22nd, AMW sent out an invitation to her supporters, announcing the launch of her campaign on July 1st in Rotherham. We published her announcement here.

The venue for the launch of her Leadership Campaign was subsequently cancelled by the venue owners, on advice, one assumes, of the police.

AMW then sent out a further communique which we also published, announcing that another venue had been found. This time, the venue has not been publicised.

This is now the situation in our country:  free speech is not allowed when it is deemed to be islamophobic. Oh, they'll say, it's not because of that, you are perfectly free to say what you want, but when you do so, you may cause a public order offense because HnH may turn up, it might get nasty  ... and you may be taken to jail for hate speech.

So we better convene in secret locations now?
QuoteBut there's worse: see this press release from the official UKIP Press Office

We would urge any UKIP member or supporter to think very carefully before becoming involved
QuoteFrankly, this is a sham contest before it has even started. If Top Management and Party Leaders dislike AMW so much and think she's so dangerous to the Party because of her views, then they should come out in the open and officially remove her from the Party, but not try sniping from the back or influencing members and AMW supporters by unfair means: "think carefully before you go there!". They're behaving, in other words, like the establishment parties and MSM have been behaving to UKIP these past years.

I for one am appalled and outraged by this press release and the attitude of those who wrote and released it.
2017-06-30 BBC: Anti-Islam campaigner Anne Marie Waters launches UKIP bid
QuoteAnne Marie Waters was blocked from standing for UKIP at the election, with then leader Paul Nuttall saying her views made him "uncomfortable".

She campaigns against Sharia law in the UK and has called Islam "evil".

A UKIP spokesman said all leadership candidates would be vetted by the party's National Executive Committee, who will decide which ones will be allowed to go forward to a vote of the membership.
QuoteWaters announced her plans to stand for the UKIP leadership at a rally in Manchester earlier this month, where she was introduced by former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson.

She told the cheering crowd "Islam is a killing machine" and urged them to "join UKIP and vote for me," adding that the party will "try to stop me". (Youtube) (3:23)
QuoteShe has been defended by former UKIP leadership contender Raheem Kassam, editor of the Breitbart London website, who wrote earlier this year: "If UKIP ditches Anne Marie Waters, the party is over".
2017-06-30 Express & Star : Exclusive interview with Nigel Farage
QuoteOn the potential for him to return to leadership, Mr Farage said: "I did my bit and at the end of June last year there wasn't much more I could do.

"I'm not happy to see [UKIP] the way that it is, but it doesn't keep me awake at night.

"I'm looking at it, I'm thinking about it. I would need to be reassured that if I became leader again I could actually lead.

"That's something which in 2015 and 2016 was very difficult." He added: "Do I really want to come back to this? No. But that doesn't mean I won't. UKIP won't disappear whatever happens, but if UKIP isn't strong you may see a new hard right type of thing emerge. Those sort of far right elements were not welcome in UKIP when I was leading it and not one of them reached any position of prominence.

"I was pretty clear as to what our direction of travel was. UKIP does need to be cautious about that."

https://www.facebook.com/amwaters0/
https://twitter.com/amdwaters
http://www.ukipdaily.com/
http://www.ukipdaily.com/author/anne-marie-waters/
www.forbritain.uk (josta löytyy mm. AMW:n vaalimanifesti)
Youtube: AMWaters Media

edit: otsikko, koska Farage ei lähtenyt kisaan
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

Porcius

UKIPin seuraavaksi tavoitteeksi tulisi asettaa Brittien vaalijärjestelmän muuttaminen suhteelliseksi. Pitää samalla tavalla paineistaa valtapuolueita kuin EU-asiassakin tehtiin.

Toinen strategia olisi se, että Britannian kansallismieliset liittyvät konservatiiveihin ja pyrkivät muuttamaan puolueen linjaa sisältäpäin.
"On helvetin tyhmää mennä helvettiin, kun taivaaseenkin pääsisi"

-Jouko Piho

Siili

Quote from: Porcius on 01.07.2017, 13:37:33
UKIPin seuraavaksi tavoitteeksi tulisi asettaa Brittien vaalijärjestelmän muuttaminen suhteelliseksi.

Tosi vaikeasti muutettava asia.  Nykysysteemihän suosii kohtuuttomasti eniten ääniä saaneita, ja nuo nykysysteemillä eniten ääniä saaneethan päättävät mahdollisista muutoksista.  Mistä syntyy insentiivi? 

Löytyykö mistään valtiota, jossa parlamenttivaaleissa on siirrytty enemmistövaalitavasta suhteelliseen vaalitapaan parlamentin päätöksellä?



qwerty

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(Telegraphin artikkeli pääosin maksumuurin takana)
QuoteITV News Nigel Farage has ruled out standing to replace Paul Nuttall as Ukip leader

The three-time leader acknowledged his habit of resigning and returning to the role had become an "ongoing joke" and that to return now would be "premature".

He said the main factors for choosing not to stand was the threat of violence and the "amateur shambles" of the party's ruling national executive committee.
Quote
Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Mr Farage left the door open to an eventual return if a "full and proper" Brexit was not delivered.
Quote"To return now would be premature. But I'm still committed to the great Brexit battle and I will continue in my role as the leader of a group in the European Parliament, overseeing the Brexit process.

"In many ways, what happens in that parliament over the next two years is perhaps as important as everything that goes on in Westminster.

"Of course I want a full and proper Brexit, and if in 2019 we reach the end of the Article 50 process and a huge gap is left, whether that is not taking back our fishing rights, the continuation of free movement or still paying Brussels too much money, I would not hesitate in throwing myself back into the front line of domestic politics."

Breitbart: Anne Marie Waters Launches UKIP Leadership Bid With Hardline Manifesto
Sisältää linkin manifestin julkaisutilaisuuteen. 24 sivuinen teksti löytyy tästä.
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

Vähemmän yllättäen juuri Guardian lähti tuolle linjalle. Nimettömät lähteet, kuinkas muuten.

The Guardian: Large influx of new Ukip members prompts fears of far-right takeover
QuoteUkip is facing potential takeover by far-right forces after a large number of new members joined in an apparent attempt to back a leadership candidate who has described Islam as "evil", (on se hurja!) party sources have said.

With the race to take over from Paul Nuttall wide open after Nigel Farage announced he would not stand again, sources say the arrival of about 1,000 new members in two weeks has sparked fears of "infiltration" by supporters of Anne Marie Waters.
QuoteWith little more than 15,000 votes in total cast when Nuttall won the leadership last November, some within Ukip fear it would not take many more new members to potentially push a tight race Waters's way.
QuoteIf Waters did win it would most likely see the end of Ukip :roll:
QuoteSome in Ukip believe it could be difficult to expel or suspend Waters now she is standing for leader.
QuoteUkip has a policy of not permitting members who were formerly in far-right groups. However, the sources say, it is very hard to weed out such people, especially those linked to the English Defence League, an informal anti-Muslim street protest group.
QuoteDefinitely standing is Peter Whittle, a London assembly member whose platform is also largely based around Islam. While less extreme than Waters, Whittle has talked of the party becoming a patriotic "cultural movement".

:)
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"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

Jaakko Sivonen

Quote from: Siili on 01.07.2017, 14:01:32
Löytyykö mistään valtiota, jossa parlamenttivaaleissa on siirrytty enemmistövaalitavasta suhteelliseen vaalitapaan parlamentin päätöksellä?

Uudessa Seelannissa siirryttiin 1990-luvulla brittiläisestä first-past-the-post-vaalitavasta saksalaistyyliseen sekajärjestestelmään.
Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietum servitium

qwerty

Huffington Joke laittaa edellistä paremmaksi.

Ukip MEPs Will Quit En Masse If Anti-Islam Candidate Becomes New Leader
QuoteUkip MEPs are preparing a mass walkout if an anti-Islam leadership candidate backed by Tommy Robinson is given a senior position at the top of the party.

Officials are panicking that a wave of far-right activists have infiltrated the party in order to vote for the controversial Anne Marie Waters, with one source describing them as the "Brownshirts' Momentum" ( :facepalm: ) - a reference to Adolf Hitler's militia during his rise to power.
QuoteSeveral Ukip sources claim Waters has done a deal with leadership front-runner Peter Whittle to become deputy leader if he is victorious in the race.

HuffPost UK has learnt senior party figures will be holding "informal talks" in Strasbourg this week to discuss what to do if Waters wins the leadership contest or is handed the position of deputy leader.

One source believes 18 of the 20 MEPs could quit the party - including Nigel Farage.

Speaking to HuffPost UK, one MEP said mass resignations "would be an inevitable consequence" of her winning the leadership or being made deputy leader.

Another MEP said: "I think every MEP would quit apart from Stuart Agnew and perhaps Gerard Batten."
QuoteBill Etheridge, the West Midlands MEP who came third in the first of Ukip's leadership elections last year, said he would  "immediately resign" if Waters becomes leader.

"I am appalled that she is even allowed in the party. There's been a failure of the management of the party in allowing her to be involved in the race."
Tuskin on kovin kaukaa haettua, kun veikkaan että jutussa käytetty nimetön lähde on Etheridge.
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

Tokugawa Ieyasu

Mahtaakohan se olla tämä Hommaforumin Britannian siipi, joka on nyt junttaamassa? Toukokuun paikallisvaaleissa meidän kylä meni konservatiiveille, UKIP:in saadessa ehkä kymmenen prosenttia koko äänipotista.
"The strong manly ones in life are those who understand the meaning of word patience". - Tokugawa Ieyasu

Micke90

Käsittääkseni Briteissä äänestettiin vaalijärjestelmän muuttamisesta ja kansa hylkäsi muutoksen.

Porcius

Quote from: Micke90 on 03.07.2017, 18:33:04
Käsittääkseni Briteissä äänestettiin vaalijärjestelmän muuttamisesta ja kansa hylkäsi muutoksen.
Se kansanäänestys ei olisi muuttanut enemmistövaalitapaa, vaan joka vaalipiiristä olisi edelleenkin valittu vain yksi ehdokas.
"On helvetin tyhmää mennä helvettiin, kun taivaaseenkin pääsisi"

-Jouko Piho

qwerty

Aihe ei näytä kiinnostavan ketään :P Tämä aihe pysyy pinnalla - ei niin seksikkäällä otsikolla - niin kauan kuin minulla on kirjoitusoikeudet!

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Piikki myös Hommalaisille, joiden mielestä Hyysärin jutut ovat oikeasti oleellisia.
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

Possumi

Nyt alkoi aihe kiinnostamaan kovasti:

https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-9704036

QuoteHuffington Post: Äärioikeisto valtaamassa Britannian Ukip-puolueen – lähes kaikki mepit eroamassa
Uutissivuston mukaan Britannian populistipuoluetta uhkaa perussuomalaisten kohtalo.


Uutissivusto Huffington Postin (siirryt toiseen palveluun) tietojen mukaan Britannian itsenäisyyspuolue Ukip on hajoamisen partaalla.


Puolue on valitsemassa itselleen uutta puheenjohtajaa ja ehdolle on vahvasti noussut erittäin islam-vastainen Anne Marie Waters. Hän on kutsunut islam-uskontoa "tappokoneeksi" ja perustanut islamia vastustavan Sharia Watch -painostusryhmän.

Watersin kerrotaan myös liittoutuneen uusnatsijärjestö English Defence Leaguen entisen puheenjohtajan Tommy Robinsonin kanssa ja perustanut hänen kanssaan islam-vastaisen Pegida UK -järjestön.

Ukip esti Watersin osallistumisen kesäkuun parlamenttivaaleihin, mutta hän on saanut olla puolueen jäsen. Jo tämä pöyristyttää osaa sen mepeistä.

Britannian tiedotusvälineet ovat kertoneet, että puolueeseen on parin viime viikon aikana liittynyt noin tuhat uutta jäsentä. Heidän joukossaan uskotaan olevan paljon äärioikeistolaisia, jotka olisivat valmiit äänestämään Watersin puolueen johtajaksi tai muuhun korkea-arvoiseen tehtävään.

Ukip-puolue romahti parlamenttivaaleissa eikä saanut yhtään kansanedustajaa. Puolueella on kuitenkin 20 edustajaa Euroopan parlamentissa.

Huffington Postin haastattelemien meppien mukaan jopa 18 euroedustajaa voisi erota puolueesta, jos Waters nousee johonkin merkittävään virkaan. Eroajien joukossa olisi mm. puolueen pitkäaikainen puheenjohtaja Nigel Farage.

Myös uuden, libertariaarisen puolueen perustamisesta on käyty keskusteluja, mutta ne ovat vasta alkuvaiheessa, Huffington Post kertoo.

Ehdokasasettelu päättyy 28. heinäkuuta ja uusi puheenjohtaja valitaan puoluekokouksessa syyskuun 29. päivä.

Faidros.

Homman juntta iskee kuin tuhat volttia, nyt myös Britanniassa!  :roll:
Kun yksi ihminen kärsii harhasta, sitä sanotaan hulluudeksi. Kun monta ihmistä kärsii harhasta, sitä sanotaan uskonnoksi. -Robert M Pirsig-
Millainen luonne 2000-luvun mekaanikolla pitäisi olla,jotta hän sietäisi koneiden päälle kasattuja elektronisen hevonpaskan kerrostumia.
-Matthew B.Crawford-

Micke90

QuoteWatersin kerrotaan myös liittoutuneen uusnatsijärjestö English Defence Leaguen entisen puheenjohtajan Tommy Robinsonin kanssa ja perustanut hänen kanssaan islam-vastaisen Pegida UK -järjestön.

Uusnatsijärjestö? Onko toimittelijalla kaikki kotona?  ;D

Roope

Quote from: Micke90 on 04.07.2017, 17:19:11
QuoteWatersin kerrotaan myös liittoutuneen uusnatsijärjestö English Defence Leaguen entisen puheenjohtajan Tommy Robinsonin kanssa ja perustanut hänen kanssaan islam-vastaisen Pegida UK -järjestön.

Uusnatsijärjestö? Onko toimittelijalla kaikki kotona?  ;D

Tuo oli Ylen toimittaja Yrjö Kokkosen oma lisäys lainaamaansa Huffington Postin juttuun.
Mediaseuranta - Maahanmuuttoaiheiset uutiset, tiedotteet ja tutkimukset

-PPT-

Eikös UKIPista Brexitin myötä tullut tavallaan tarpeeton puolue? Se oli yhden asian puolue ja kun se saavutti tavoitteensa niin sitä ei enää tarvittu.

qwerty

Quote from: Possumi on 04.07.2017, 13:27:00
Nyt alkoi aihe kiinnostamaan kovasti: yle.fi/uutiset
Yle määritteli käyttäjän mielenkiintoisuuden asteen? Hmmm.....  :roll:

Peli on täysin auki
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AMW nyt 4.50, muut samoissa.

Video jossa puretaan Guardianin ja Huffington Joken väitteet atomeiksi. Luotatko edelleen näihin uutiskauppiaisiin?
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Nuo ovat niin härskejä väitteitä ja suuria toimijoita että AMW ei ole edes yrittänyt ampua niitä alas. International Business Times nöyrtyi minuuteissa.
QuoteAnne Marie Waters‏
@PWright101 Explain how my platform is "anti-immigrant". Today. Or retract and apologise.
8 minuuttia myöhemmin
QuotePaul Wright‏ @PWright101
Vastauksena käyttäjälle @AMDWaters
Apologies. You are right - should have been worded differently. Will be changed today - honest mistake. DM me if you want to chat on phone.
QuoteAnne Marie Waters‏ @AMDWaters
Thank you. It is essential that people have an accurate picture. Irresponsible journalism threatens democracy.  Thanks again.

QuoteAnne Marie Waters‏ @AMDWaters
I don't think many of them are intelligent enough to understand the arguments, but I'm sick of being wrongly labelled.
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Niinpä. 24 sivuinen manifesti on kaikkien luettavana. Mikä siinä on äärioikeistolaista? Haluan tietää!
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

Jääpää

Quote from: Roope on 04.07.2017, 17:59:09
Quote from: Micke90 on 04.07.2017, 17:19:11
QuoteWatersin kerrotaan myös liittoutuneen uusnatsijärjestö English Defence Leaguen entisen puheenjohtajan Tommy Robinsonin kanssa ja perustanut hänen kanssaan islam-vastaisen Pegida UK -järjestön.

Uusnatsijärjestö? Onko toimittelijalla kaikki kotona?  ;D

Tuo oli Ylen toimittaja Yrjö Kokkosen oma lisäys lainaamaansa Huffington Postin juttuun.

Roskazuurnalistin (Virheä Liitto) jutustelua oli vähän korjailtu; uusnatsijärjestö-> ääärrioikeisto.


Quote5.7. klo 9.45 Täsmennetty English Defence Leaguen ideologian määritelmää.
Perustuslaki 29§
"Kansanedustaja on velvollinen toimessaan noudattamaan oikeutta ja totuutta. Hän on siinä velvollinen noudattamaan perustuslakia, eivätkä häntä sido muut määräykset."

qwerty

Nostetaan :)

Viime aikoina tapahtunutta on se että ilmoittautuminen on mennyt lukkoon. 11 ehdokasta. Ylihuomenna joku taho UKIPista päättää ketkä saavat olla ehdolla. AM Waters tuskin pääsee ehdolle >:( Jos ja kun ei, niin suosikki uudeksi puheenjohtajaksi on alusta asti johtanut Peter Whittle. (Kuka?) Hänestä tiedän sen verran että ei ole hetero, joka lienee plussaa nykyaikana :facepalm: Vastaehdokaskaan ei taida olla (?) , mutta on sen verran avoin että ei nosta asiaa framille. Päinvastoin. Yrittää tylsästi pysyä asialinjalla :P

Päivän kertoimet

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"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

AMW pääsi ehdolle! :D

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Jokaisesta jotain PoliticalBetting.com - The UKIP leadership race
August 8th, 2017

Katsotaan kuinka kertoimet elävät. Voisi olettaa että AMW:n putoaa, nyt kun kysymysmerkki ehdokkuudesta on pois.
Valintatapa samanlainen kuin täkäläisillä virheillä? Postiäänestys ja first-past-the-post. En keksi miten tuo eroaisi verrokista. 

Kampanjointiaikaa on reilu kuukausi. Äänestyslipukkeet postitetaan ensi kuun alkupuolella ja uusi puheenjohtaja julistetaan 29.9.
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

Jännitys tiivistyy. Valinnan julkaisuun on enää 22 päivää :)

Kisasta ovat vetäytyneet Allen (suosittelee Boltonia), Coburn (suosittelee Collinsia), Mason (suosittelee Collinsia) sekä Walker (suosittelee Collinsia). Jäljellä on siis 7 ehdokasta. Ladbrokesin kertoimet heille ovat Whittle 2.25, AMW 3.00, Bolton 9.00, Kurten & Collins 11, Rees-Evans 17 ja Powlesland 101.

Harvinainen artikkeli, jota toimittaja ei kehystä omilla näkökannoillaan. Haastateltava itse on pääosassa :o

2017-09-07 Express & Star: UKIP's anti-Islamist candidate Anne Marie Waters declares war on media
QuoteAnne Marie Waters hates the mainstream media.

In fact Ms Waters - the most controversial of a number of controversial candidates for UKIP leadership - tells me she sees the press and broadcast media as her 'biggest obstacle' as she bids to succeed Paul Nuttall in the hotseat.

The media, she says, in an accent crafted on the streets of Dublin, are out to get her by branding her an obsessive anti-Islamist. "My core aim is to challenge and dismantle this entire mess of a media," she says.
Quote"I'm an issue by issue politician. I'm a democrat, essentially." She describes herself as 'staunchly pro-NHS and pro-welfare state', adding: "I'm also pro-British culture and British identity, and European cultures and identity.

"I'd like us to preserve Europe as we know it for future generations."

Ms Waters makes it clear that she could not care less if her views cause offence. "Everyone's offended all the time," she says. "We get over it. It's called being a grown up. I'm not going to bend over backwards to not cause offence.

"I'm offended by many of the things that are written in the Quran, but noone is concerned about me being offended, or the millions of non-Muslims who are offended, so why should we be so concerned about offence in the other direction?"
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

Enää viikko! Klipin debatissa "kärkiehdokkaat" Peter Whittle ja Anne Marie Waters.
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AMW:n puheenjohtajuus kerroin on enää 2.00!!
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

Uusi puheenjohtaja julkistetaan perjantaina klo 19:15 (5:15 pm paikallista)

Koska kyseessä on postiäänestys, niin viime hetken vaikuttamisyritykset jäänevät laimeiksi. Eilen keltainen lehdistö revitteli tällaisella otsikolla Nigel Farage 'to form new party' if anti-Islam campaigner Anne Marie Waters wins Ukip leadership

Miehen oma kommentti YT: Nigel Farage Categorically Denies He Is Starting A New Political Party (1:24)
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

Esimerkki asiallisesta uutisklipistä. Ei kehystystä, ei toimittajan välikommenttia. Äänessä on vain ja ainoastaan jutun aihe. Vastuu kuullun ymmärtämisestä jätetään tylysti katsojalle :o Aika hurjaa!
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"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

#24
Enää 20 tuntia.... 8)

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QuoteUKIP congratulates AfD on entry to Bundestag
Published Sep 25, 2017

The interim leader of UKIP, Steve Crowther, has congratulated the Alternative fur Deutschland (AfD) on achieving its electoral breakthrough and entering the German Parliament with 13.5% of the vote.

"Like UKIP, the AfD offers a balancing force within its national politics which has been skewed towards the centre-left consensus. This is a brave move in Germany, whose politics has been overshadowed by the Nazi era. It shows that the people are no longer prepared to be ignored and coerced by the liberal left.

"It is telling that the AfD vote comes from all age groups, is driven by former non-voters as well as disillusioned conservative and left voters, and comes largely from the employed and unemployed working class.

"Once again, the elites are learning that democracy actually means listening to the majority, no matter how much they despise their vulgar attitudes."
(edit: linkki http://www.ukip.org/ukip_congratulates_afd_on_entry_to_bundestag)

Twitter bännää Euroopan parlamentin jäseniä?! Kyllä tuo tili mulle näkyy. https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP
Vika postaus 25.9.
QuoteOmalla sivulla Gerard Batten sanoo että
My Twitter Account has been suspended for speaking the truth
25th September 2017

QuoteMy twitter account has just been suspended. The tweet in questions was one where I replied to someone saying:
"No one disputes that. Muslims kill each other for being the wrong kind of Muslim more than they kill infidels. It's a death cult."

Ikibänni tuosta :o
QuoteGerard Batten MEP‏ @GerardBattenMEP 24. syyskuuta
AfD's Beatrix von Storch MEP sits near me in Euro Parl and she is one of the nicest people you could hope to meet. Not 'far-right' at all!
(edit: linkki https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/status/912007345865134080)
QuoteGerard Batten MEP‏ @GerardBattenMEP 24. syyskuuta
I do NOT support AMW for UKIP Leader. But whoever wins I will not walk away from Party. ANY UKIP MEP who does should resign their seat.
(edit: linkki https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/status/911886302181720064)

(toivottavasti muistin kaikki linkit ettei tule bänniä sellaisen unohtamisesta ... Vittu mitä viilaamista)
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

qwerty

TÄNÄÄN!

Muutama poiminta AMW:n twitterissä
QuoteBill Weir‏ @Billweir2410

Wishing @AMDWaters every success tomorrow, our country needs her in charge  to turn UKIP around and to challenge Radical Islam head on.
QuoteCllr.Brian Silvester‏ @CllrBSilvester

On the way to Torquay.
I am confident that Ukippers will make the right decision for their party and their country.
QuoteJanet Underwood‏ @JanMUnderwood
Vastauksena käyttäjille @kazmc39, @AMDWaters

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"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

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Henry Bolton on UKIP:in uusi puheenjohtaja. Hän sai 3 874 ääntä. (29.9%) AMW tuli toiseksi 2 755 äänellä (21.3%).

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"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

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Express - Henry Bolton: Who is Ukip's new leader?
QuoteThe 54-year-old international security expert is a former British Army officer, Thames Valley police officer and UN Governor
QuoteMr Bolton started his work with the EU in 2003, leading a team managing the Macedonian border then the Georgian border and last year finished two and a half years of working as a strategic planner for the EU Common Security and Defence Policy ( :P ) in Ukraine, Libya and North Africa, Afghainstan, Kosovo and Georgia.
BBC: Who is new UKIP leader Henry Bolton?
QuoteHenry Bolton's surprise election as UKIP leader marks one of the most meteoric rises in British politics in recent years.
The former army officer turned security consultant only joined the party in 2014 and, until recently, was scarcely a household name within UKIP let alone national politics.
QuoteThe 54-year-old, who was born in Kenya, was commissioned in the Wessex Regiment in the Territorial Army in 1992, and promoted to captain in 1994.

He served as a infantry officer and tank crewman in Germany, Belize, Cyprus and Bosnia.
QuoteAfter leaving the army, for eight years he was a police officer in the Thames Valley force, during which time he received an award for outstanding bravery.

In 2016, he stood for the post of Kent Police and Crime Commissioner, finishing in second place.
QuoteSpeaking to Kent News during the campaign he warned against UKIP turning itself into the "UK Nazi party" under the "wrong leadership".

"Ukip was set up to fight the 'totalitarian' effects of EU influence on British society," he added.

"Therefore, I will not sit back and watch the party be hijacked by those who seek to now seize on our success to drive forward their own agenda."

In his victory speech he quoted a motto from the Sandhurst Military Academy, from which he graduated, insisting that his intention was to "serve to lead". He has said he does not expect to be paid in the role.

He lives in Kent with his wife Tatiana and his three children, the youngest of whom was born during a train journey between Kent and London in 2016.
Telegraph: Ukip heads off split as former army officer Henry Bolton beats anti-Islam candidate to win leadership
QuoteHis political interests include law and order, border security and the implications of closer military co-operation with the European Union post-Brexit.
The Guardian - Henry Bolton: former soldier has reputation as competent technocrat
QuoteWhile occasionally talking about Islam as a "problem" at hustings, much of Bolton's pitch was based on his promised ability to put Ukip on a more professional footing, and unify the various factions that have battled each other for years.

This task could be complicated by a couple of issues, one of which is his lack of obvious charisma. "Henry is very organised but you can't exactly see him wowing everyone on the Daily Politics," said a senior party figure.

Another potential issue is that a party that likes to style itself as the insurgent upstart has selected the most establishment leader it could.

Another Ukip figure said: "There's lots of people in Ukip who like to say we challenge the elites. Well, Henry's background and OBE make him look like part of the elite."
"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

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:'( Huomaa että hän ei ole poliitikko. Vielä. Faragen kommentti on todella huolestuttava. Hän oli kuitenkin toiseksi suosituin pj.ehdokas.
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"The oldest fraud is the belief that the political left is the party of the poor and the downtrodden": Thomas Sowell

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^ Ymmärrän, että häviö kirvelee, mutta tuollaiset mölyt kannattaisi pitää mahassa. Ei anna valtiomiesmäistä kuvaa.