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Myanmarissa julistettu poikkeustila

Started by matkamiehiii, 22.03.2013, 18:14:01

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matkamiehiii

QuoteMyanmarin (Burma) presidentti Thein Sein on määrännyt poikkeustilan voimaan Meiktilan kaupungin alueelle sen jälkeen kun raivoisat väkivaltaisuudet ovat repineet kolmen päivän ajan. Väkivalta on syttynyt alueen budhan uskoisten ja muslimien välillä ja noin 20 ihmistä on saanut surmansa. Taistelut syttyivät myöhään keskiviikkona sen jälkeen kun budhalaiset olivat sytyttäneet useita moskeijoita tuleen. Tilannetta kuvataan erittäin jännitteiseksi ja aseistautuneet ryhmittymät ottavat yhteen kaupungissa. Sadat muslimit ovat paenneet kodeistaan turvaan urheilustadionille.
http://www.verkkomedia.org/news.asp?mode=10&id=7285
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/22/294789/state-of-emergency-declared-in-myanmar/

Nyt voi kerrankin sanoa "rauhanuskonto taas riehumassa"  ;D

Mutta ei, tuo Myanmarin tilanne on kohtuu mielenkiintoinen vaikka on jäänyt suht vähälle huomiolle Suomessa ja vaikka Suomessakin lienee vajaat tuhat myanmarilaista pakolaista. Käytännössä kyseessä on etninen konflikti  Rohingya muslimeitten ja alueen mongoli- buddhalaisten välillä. Rohingya muslimit lienee asuneet pitkään jossain Bangladeshin ja Myanmarin välimaastossa, etnisesti he on enemmän bangladeshlaisia ja väestön kasvun seurauksena ja maarajojen sopimisen seurauksena ym. he ovat nyt jääneet ns. väärään maahan jumiin ja väestönkasvun takia he ovat nyt napit vastakkain alueen enemmistön eli mongoli-buddhalaisten kanssa jotka ei tunne sääliä heitä kohtaan ja haluaa heidät pois maastaan.

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Rohingya muslimeja

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Burmese monks are seen fueling hatred against Rohingya Muslims, blocking international aid to the persecuted community

Monet rohyinga muslimit pyrkiikin pois maasta suvaitsevaisiin länsimaihin esim. Australiaan, aina ei kuitenkaan tuuri käy heillä.

QuoteNinety-seven Rohingya Muslims fleeing violence in Myanmar have died of hunger after being stranded at sea for 25 days, reports say.


Thirty three Muslim immigrants who were rescued off the coast of Sri Lanka last week said that they were on a boat heading to Malaysia when Thailand navy forces intercepted them and took the boat's engine.


The survivors said they were left floating at sea for 25 days without water and food when Sri Lanka's navy finally rescued them last Saturday about 250 miles off the country's east coast, while the boat began sinking.

The survivors, 32 men and a boy, were taken to an immigration detention centre near Sri Lanka's capital, Colombo, while suffering from serious dehydration.

"The journey was dangerous, but we had to do that ... as we fear for our lives, no jobs, and big fighting [in Myanmar]," said one of the survivors, Shofiulla.

Shofiulla said that there were 130 Rohingyas on the boat and each had paid $465 for the journey that began on January 10.

Thailand navy has rejected the allegation.

Meanwhile, the UN High Commissioner for Refugee voiced concern over the increasing number of Rohingya deaths at sea. The international body also urged Myanmar government to "promote reconciliation and economic development in Rakhine state, pursue practical measures to ensure basic rights so that the Rohingya can lead normal lives where they are, and grant them access to citizenship."

Myanmar's government refuses to recognize Rohingya Muslims as citizens and labels the minority of about 800,000 as "illegal" immigrants from neighboring Bangladesh, which has shown no willingness to help the Rohingyas.

More than 100,000 Rohingyas have been displaced since the sectarian violence broke out in June, according to the UN.

Rohingya Muslims have faced torture, neglect, and repression in Myanmar for many years.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02/25/290763/97-rohingya-muslims-die-of-hunger/

Tarinan opetus on: monikulttuurisuus on menestystarina joka maailman kolkassa.

Punaniska

Tuo on ihan yhtä väärin kuin koptikristittyjen kiusaaminen Egyptissä. Olen aiemminkin kuullut vihjeitä buddhalaisuuden vähemmän leppoisasta puolesta, joten ei yllätä.

Well the sun don't shine where it used to
And the angels are hidin' their heads
People don't listen to their hearts anymore
Seems the good men all are dead
There ain't no right, wrong, no in between
That ain't the constitution that they wrote for me

Aapo

Quote from: matkamiehiii on 22.03.2013, 18:14:01
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Burmese monks are seen fueling hatred against Rohingya Muslims, blocking international aid to the persecuted community

Huonosti kävi niiden, jotka vielä yrittävät ylläpitää myyttiä buddhalaismunkeista jonain valaistuneina rauhan lähettiläinä.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

- Robert J. Hanlon

MW

...mutta kyllä Dalai Llama, sentään nokkamiehenä... hipit tykkää diggailla Aasialaisia teokratiota, mikäs siinä.

Munkitkin ovat tosiasioiden edessä: islam on valloitus- ja alistamisuskonto. "Martial arts" muuttuu taas henkisyydestä fyysisyydeksi, kun on tilanne päällä.

Fidel Von Infidel

Ihan hyvä, että pistävät hanttiin

hattiwatti

On niillä nyt oma puoluekin. Itse haluaisin myös buddhalaisen natsipuolueen suomeenkin, olisi siinä mokuttajilla ihmettelemistä, voisi vain kuvitella millaisia lööppejä tulisi....

http://atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/SEA-01-240513.html

QuoteMyanmar has a newly registered Nazi party, the Rakhine National Development Party (RNDP), created ceremoniously in the wake of last year's anti-Muslim ethnic cleansing in western Rakhine State. Naypyidaw has incubated the party, while opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi has wined and dined publicly with controversial RNDP leaders, including party chairman and member of parliament Dr Aye Maung.

Separate branches of the Myanmar state, including the executive office of President Thein Sein, the parliament, and the judiciary, have all tolerated or tacitly backed the neo-Nazi Buddhist movement known as "969". The Buddhist fundamentalist movement, led by fascist monks such as U Wirathu and RNDP leaders like Aung Maung, himself a Bangladesh-born Rakhine, has been pivotal and yet unpunished in recent violence against Muslims that have killed hundreds and displaced upwards of 120,000.

Underscoring the racist bias, the judiciary recently sentenced a Muslim customer who peeled a 969 sticker off the mirror of a street vendor with his motorcycle key to two years imprisonment for "insulting religion". At the same time, the Thein Sein administration in Naypyidaw has failed to bring anyone to justice for participating in the broad daylight slaughter of 10 Muslim pilgrims in a public space in the southern Rakhine town of Taung-gok in early June 2012. Nor has anyone been prosecuted for this and last year's widely videotaped pogroms against Muslim communities.

With this type of blatant impunity, it is little wonder that the RNDP openly subscribes to neo-Nazism in its quest to create a pure "Buddhist state". The RNDP's official journal, "Toe-Tet-Yay" (or Progress), regularly uses the Burmese word for "beasts" when referring to Myanmar's Muslims, including the ethnic Rohingya. In media interviews as well as parliamentary discussions, RNDP leaders have with discernible admiration publicly talked about how Rakhine patriots should look to Israel and its apartheid system vis-a-vis the Palestinians as a model for handling the Rohingya.

An editorial in Progress's November 2012 edition even endorsed the view that while former fascist leader Hitler may have been a monster to Jews, he was a nationalist hero to many Germans. This is a view that any German in his or her right mind would find extremely repulsive and impossible to sympathize with.

Myanmar's homegrown neo-Nazi party of the Rakhines also calls for national level authorities in Naypyidaw to hold firm against any international pressure, including US rights lobby Human Right Watch's recent characterization of state-linked violence against the Rohingya as "ethnic cleansing", in dealing with the Rohingya situation, including the recent massive displacement of the group along the Bangladesh border.
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Parsifal

Valaistuneinkaan buddhalainen ei näköjään jaksa loputtomiin kestää muslimien riekkumista.
Jos fiksut antavat aina periksi, ainoastaan idiootit saavat tahtonsa läpi.

"With the first link the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."

Emo

Quote from: Parsifal on 04.06.2013, 19:24:09
Valaistuneinkaan buddhalainen ei näköjään jaksa loputtomiin kestää muslimien riekkumista.

Olen runsaasti pohtinut myös sitä, tarvitseeko kristittyjenkään ihan kaikkea hymy naamalla sietää.
Ainakaan sen jälkeen, kun se toinen poski KERRAN on käännetty.

hattiwatti

Toisessakin Buddhalaisvaltiossa on nazzeja! Johan sattuikin. Tosin ovat enemmän Kiinan uhkaa vastaan, ja ihan syystäkin.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/02/mongolia-far-right

QuoteMongolian neo-Nazis: Anti-Chinese sentiment fuels rise of ultra-nationalism

Alarm sounds over rise of extreme groups such as Tsagaan Khass who respect Hitler and reject foreign influence

Their right hands rise to black-clad chests and flash out in salute to their nation: "Sieg heil!" They praise Hitler's devotion to ethnic purity.

But with their high cheekbones, dark eyes and brown skin, they are hardly the Third Reich's Aryan ideal. A new strain of Nazism has found an unlikely home: Mongolia.

Once again, ultra-nationalists have emerged from an impoverished economy and turned upon outsiders. This time the main targets come from China, the rising power to the south.

Groups such as Tsagaan Khass, or White Swastika, portray themselves as patriots standing up for ordinary citizens in the face of foreign crime, rampant inequality, political indifference and corruption.

But critics say they scapegoat and attack the innocent. The US state department has warned travellers of increased assaults on inter-racial couples in recent years – including organised violence by ultra-nationalist groups.

Dayar Mongol threatened to shave the heads of women who sleep with Chinese men. Three years ago, the leader of Blue Mongol was convicted of murdering his daughter's boyfriend, reportedly because the young man had studied in China.

Though Tsagaan Khass leaders say they do not support violence, they are self-proclaimed Nazis. "Adolf Hitler was someone we respect. He taught us how to preserve national identity," said the 41-year-old co-founder, who calls himself Big Brother.

"We don't agree with his extremism and starting the second world war. We are against all those killings, but we support his ideology. We support nationalism rather than fascism."

It is, by any standards, an extraordinary choice. Under Hitler, Soviet prisoners of war who appeared Mongolian were singled out for execution. More recently, far-right groups in Europe have attacked Mongolian migrants.

Not all ultra-nationalists use this iconography; and widespread ignorance about the Holocaust and other atrocities may help to explain why some do.

Tsagaan Khass points out that the swastika is an ancient Asian symbol – which is true, but does not explain the group's use of Nazi colours, the Nazi eagle and the Nazi salute; or the large picture of the Führer on Big Brother's cigarette case.

Nor does it seem greatly relevant, given their unabashed admiration for Hitler's racial beliefs.

"We have to make sure that as a nation our blood is pure. That's about our independence," said 23-year-old Battur, pointing out that the population is under three million.

"If we start mixing with Chinese, they will slowly swallow us up. Mongolian society is not very rich. Foreigners come with a lot of money and might start taking our women."

Big Brother acknowledges he discovered such ideas through the nationalist groups that emerged in Russia after the Soviet Union's fall; Mongolia had been a satellite state. But the anti-Chinese tinge is distinct and increasingly popular.

"While most people feel far-right discourse is too extreme, there seems to be a consensus that China is imperialistic, 'evil' and intent on taking Mongolia," said Franck Billé of Cambridge University, who is researching representations of Chinese people in Mongolia.

Hip hop tracks such as Don't Go Too Far, You Chinks by 4 Züg – chorus: "shoot them all, all, all" – have been widely played in bars and clubs. Urban myths abound; some believe Beijing has a secret policy of encouraging men to have sex with Mongolian women.

Yet Tsagaan Khass claims it welcomes law-abiding visitors of all races, and Big Brother can certainly be hospitable.

Enthusiastically shaking hands, he says: "Even though you are a British citizen, you are still Asian, and that makes you very cool."

He says the younger members have taught him to be less extreme and the group appears to be reshaping itself – expelling "criminal elements" and insisting on a good education as a prerequisite for membership. One of the leaders is an interior designer.

But critics fear ultra-nationalists are simply becoming more sophisticated and, quietly, more powerful. Tsagaan Khass say it "works closely" with other organisations and is now discussing a merger.

"Some people are in complete denial ... [but] we can no longer deny this is a problem," said Anaraa Nyamdorj, of Mongolia's Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Centre.

The US state department has noted increased reports of xenophobic attacks since the spring. The UN country review cites a recent vicious assault on three young transgender women. When one of the victims publicly blamed an ultra-nationalist group – not Tsagaan Khass – death threats quickly followed.

"They are getting more support from the public," added Enkhjargal Davaasuren, director of the National Centre Against Violence, who fears that ultra-nationalists are growing more confident and victims too scared to come forward. She pointed to a YouTube video posted last year, showing a man roughly shaving a woman's long hair. The victim's face is buried in her hands, but her hunched body reeks of fear.

Others in Ulan Bator suggest the movement is waning and suspect the groups' menacing stance and claims of 3,000 members are bluster. Billé thinks there is "a lot of posturing".

"We have heard of instances [of violence]. They are not necessarily all right or all wrong," said Javkhlan, a Tsagaan Khass leader. But the group is simply a "law enforcement" body, he maintained: "We do checks; we go to hotels and restaurants to make sure Mongolian girls don't do prostitution and foreigners don't break the laws.

"We don't go through and beat the shit out of everyone. We check our information and make sure it's true."

They rely on police and media pressure to reform such businesses, he added. And if that failed? "We try to avoid using power," he said. "That would be our very last resort."

Mongolian virallinenkin hallinto suhtautuu epälevästi röyhkeisiin Kiinalaisiin jotka kovin helposti voivat naisia rahalla lahjomalla tehdä demografisen valloituksen maahan, jossa valtavia määriä mineraaleja ja erityisesti elektroniikkateollisuuden hamuamia harvinaisia maametalleja joihin Kiinalla muuten monopoli - Mongolia voisi uhata Kiinan monopolia. Maan hallinto onkin määrätietoisesti vittuillut etelään kutsumalla vieraakseen Dalai-Laman, joka toki Kiinalle sama asia kuin punainen vaate härkätaistulussa. Siitä ei ole tietoa onkohan mielenkiintoiselle buddhalaiselle puolueprojektille tulossa millainen jytky.

Puolueen kaadereiden toiminta ajaa hiukset naisilta jotka antavat Kiinalaisille on muuten ihan sama mitä Ranskalaiset sodan jälkeen tekivät niille ranskattarille jotka antoivat Wehrmachtille - symbolisesti kertoo millaisilla panoksilla tuossa peräkammaripoikien maassa pelataan, panoksena mineraalivarat ja demografisen valloituksen uhka.

matkamiehiii

Eikä unohdeta myöskään Malesiaa, koko aasia vaikuttaisi olevan täynnä natseja suorastaan.

QuoteA couple of years ago, my friend moved out to Malaysia in search of a life where a winter wardrobe isn't a thing and you don't have to worry about stuff like moronic lad culture or seeing Lee Mack's face on television. What he found was a job as a bar manager in an establishment frequented by Malay punks covered in swastikas, wearing Combat 18 (a neo-Nazi terrorist organisation) T-shirts and harping on about "Malay power". 

Turns out they're a group of far-right nationalists who want to rid Malaysia of any non ethnic Malays and stop immigration into the country. Which, although pretty backwards and reductive, isn't all that surprising in the current world climate. What was surprising, and kind of confusing, is that they identify themselves as neo-Nazis, are fond of sieg-heiling and listen to Nazi bands like Skrewdriver and Angry Aryan, yet definitely aren't Aryan themselves. And adopting a worldview that specifically discriminates against your race seems a very odd thing to do.     

I was told that one of the most popular Malay power bands is an act named Boot Axe, so I got in touch with band member Mr Slay to find out why exactly a group of Malaysians are going through this bizarre, neo-Nazi identity crisis. 

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http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-malaysian-nazis-fighting-for-a-pure-race

Kyllä on Suomenkin parempi ottaa jatkossa vaan afrikkalaisia pakolaisia tänne, ties vaikka joku aasialainen pakolainen olisi natsi!!