USA:n presidentinvaalit 2016

[JKN93]

Vaalituloksen oikeutuksen kiistämistä;
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/12/18/dnc-chair-brazile-trump-victory-tainted-by-russian-intrusion/

DNC Chair Brazile: Trump Victory 'Tainted' By Russian Intrusion

Sunday on ABC"s "This Week," interim chairman of the Democratic National Committee Donna Brazile disputed President-elect Donald Trump's legitimacy because of the Russian's hacking intended to interfere with the 2016 presidential election, saying  the result was "tainted by this intrusion."

Partial transcript as follows:

RADDATZ: Donna, given all you said about this hack, do you think Donald Trump's win was legitimate?

BRAZILE: No, I was involved a close election in 2000. And it was an election where we believed that every vote should count, and every voter should matter. At the end of the day, the electors had an obligation to do their job. And George Bush won the election, and Al Gore had the most electoral — I mean, the most popular vote. Donald Trump used this information in ways to also sow division. I was very disappointed in his repeated usage some of the stolen information. He used it as if he received daily talking points. But that's politics. It's behind us. What we should focus on now is how do we protect our country from foreign intrusion? How do we protect and strengthen our democratic institutions? And how do we protect votes.

RADDATZ: Was the election legit?

BRAZILE: The election is — was tainted by this intrusion, but —

RADDATZ: Would Hillary Clinton have own without it? Do you think?

BRAZILE: You know, I'm not going to sugarcoat what happened on Election Day. We, the Democratic Party has a lot of things that we have to do. Donald Trump cracked the blue wall, OK? He cracked the blue wall. We had a blue wall; we should've maintained it. We should've kept it. But there's no question that having a foreign adversary, a foe interfere and to use hacked stolen e-mails and weaponize them against the Democrats, not the Republicans, not Trump, but against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party, the president's party, we should be outraged by it. I know I'm still outraged by it but I want to make sure this never happens again. This country deserves to have the kind of cyber security experts involved to make sure that our homeland is protected. at every stage.

[törö]

^ Tässä on kyllä oppinut julkisen keskustelun arvon ja se on siinä nollan hujakoilla.

Trump voitti jo vaalit ja tilannetta on ihan turha yrittää muuttaa puhumalla paskaa.

[Kremppamestari]

Kuulemma nuo valitsijamiehet eivät edes tapaa toisiaan, joten aika vaikea heidän on juonitella Trumpia vastaan.

Sitä en tosin käsitä, miten noin pienen äänimäärän laskeminen voi kestää monta päivää.

[Don Nachos]

Trumpin kannatus vähenee ennen virkaanastumista. Veikkaan että kiitoskiertueen jälkeen alka montaa harmittaa ketä meni äänestämään. Aika monelle äänestäjälle tuli Trumpin valheet täysin yllätyksenä enkä usko että se että Trump myöntää tilaisuuksissa valehdelleensa paljon heitä lämmittää.

Kannattaa muistaa että moni otti Trumpin puheet kuolemanvakavasti vaikka täällä ne sivuttiin kampanjapuheena mitä ne olikin.

Ennen näitä tiskirätti/sr/takinravistaja tyylisiä väitteitä ole hyvä ja kerro missä Trump valehteli?

Kysymyksen asettelusta aavistan että et usko Isä Aurinkoisen koskaan valehtelevan.
Lyhyesti: Trump ei ole pistämässä Clintonia vankilaan vaan antaa asian olla. Trump ei koskaan oikeasti ollut sitä mieltä että suot pitäisi kuivata.

Molemmat ovat sellaisia asioita jotka moni äänestäjä otti täysin tosissaan. Heidän voi olla aika vaikea sulattaa noita, kun ne tulevat suoraan livenä Trumpin suusta eikä "väärennetyn" median kautta.

[Faidros.]

Kanadan viranomaiset on ilmoittaneet 28 yhdysvaltalaisen muuttajan muuton syyksi Trumpin voiton. Ainoakaan julkkis ei pitänyt sanaansa.
www.stara.fi/2016/12/19/julkkikset-uhosivat-muuttavansa-kanadaan-trumpin-voittaessa/

[Lasse]

Niin, varmaan talo on nostettu ilmaan ja sen alla ollut kellari on siirretty turvallisempaan paikkaan, koska talosta ei ole nyt löydetty kellaria.

Kerropa, jos Alefantis tölkitti joka vuosi kymmenen tonnia luomutomaatteja, niin säilyttikö hän tölkit kalsareissaan, kerta joku nosti talon ilmaan ja vei kellarin helvettiin?

#PizzaGate EXCLUSIVE: I Found the Basement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RaTDUcxNe8

[Faidros.]

Sylvester Stallonesta Trumpin hallinnon taideasiantuntija?
https://demokraatti.fi/nyt-sylvester-stallone-on-suunnattoman-imarreltu-tyotarjouksesta-trumpin-hallinnossa/

[f-35fan]

Kansainvälisen politiikan suurhahmo vuosikymmenien ajan, myös toiminut Hillaryn mentorina, Henry Kissinger, antoi Trumpin mahdollisuuksista hyvin positiivisia lausumia.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/12/18/kissinger-trump-go-history-considerable-president/
"(Donald Trump) has the possibility of going down in history as a very considerable president."

Mielenkiintoista että Clinton syyttää Venäjää vaalien manipuloinnista kun samalla Clinton yhdessä valtamedian kanssa manipuloi Trumppia Rebuplikaanien ehdokkaaksi.
Samalla logiikalla Clintonin pitäisi myös syyttää omaa itseään. Sitä saa mitä tilaa!
Clintonin ylimielinen leiri teki monia suuri töppäyksiä. Ei presidenttiyttä voida hoitaa Hillaryn typeryydellä.  John Wayne: "Elämä on hankalaa ja se on vielä hankalampaa jos on typerä".

On aivan loistava ajatus laittaa Sylvester Stallone johtamaan kulttuurielämää. Mekin tarvitsisimme Rambon tuulettamaa ja pöyhimään tätä loiseläjien joukkoa. Mielestäni Rambo I (First Blood) on yksi kaikkein parhaimpia elokuvia. John Rambo: "Killing is as easy as breathing".

Kaikella todennäköisyydellä vaihdan New York Times:n tilauksen Wall Street Journaliin!
Taso on mennyt alaspäin.

[Skeptikko]

Jokos tämä oli täällä?:

Foreign Donors Begin Pulling Out From Clinton Foundation
http://observer.com/2016/11/foreign-donors-begin-pulling-out-from-clinton-foundation/

Overseas governments clearly feel there is nothing left to buy

[Skeptikko]

Mielenkiintoinen kuva välittyy kyllä näistä Hillaryn tokaisuista, jos nämä pitävät paikkaansa:

Shocking Hillary Clinton quotes...
http://hillaryclintonquotes.tumblr.com/

"Look, the average Democrat voter is just plain stupid. They're easy to manipulate. That's the easy part."

[Don Nachos]

Mielenkiintoinen kuva välittyy kyllä näistä Hillaryn tokaisuista, jos nämä pitävät paikkaansa:

Shocking Hillary Clinton quotes...
http://hillaryclintonquotes.tumblr.com/

"Look, the average Democrat voter is just plain stupid. They're easy to manipulate. That's the easy part."

Aika perus politiikkokamaa.

Pitäis tehdä tollanen kuva Trumpin Drain the swamp puheesta:
Trump: Minulle sanottiin että sano niille että Drain The Swamp. Minä sanoin että en sano koska se on niin leimiä. Sitten pyysivät uudestaan sanomaan joten kokeilin että miksei. Sanoin kerran Drain the Swamp ja yleisö hurrasi. Kokeilin toisen kerran ja yleisö hurrasi taas. Huomasin että saan enemmän suosiota jos hoen Drain The Swamppia. Ja niin tein.

[hattiwatti]

Nyt ulkopoliittiset interventiot saapuvat USAn omalle maaperälle bumerangina. Aika historiallista.


http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2016/12/18/cia-meddles-us-election-as-has-countless-foreign-polls.html

CIA Meddles in US Election As it Has in Countless Foreign Polls

Never has the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency so blatantly involved itself in an American election. However, the agency has a rich history of interfering in the elections of other nations, including Russia. The conclusions of an undisclosed CIA secret report on alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election has been summarily dismissed by the Director of National Intelligence, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and several retired U.S. intelligence officers as deeply flawed and a propaganda tool concocted by the highly-politicized CIA director John Brennan and his cronies.

Brennan and his clique have upped the ante by claiming, without a shred of evidence, that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally directed the hacking of computer systems linked to the U.S. election. NBC News, which has a long history of cooperation with the CIA going back to the days of RCA/NBC chairman David Sarnoff and his close friend CIA director Allen Dulles, dutifully reported Brennan's outrageous claims as «news».

It is clear those former CIA officials who have lent credence to Brennan's report would not have done so unless they received clearance from Brennan and his CIA to go public with their unfounded charges against Russia. Those who have echoed Brennan's unfounded findings of election interference by Russia include former acting CIA director Michael Morell; former CIA and National Security Agency director Michael Hayden; former CIA director Leon Panetta; former CIA clandestine service agents Robert Baer; Evan McMullin – a failed 2016 independent presidential candidate - and Glenn Carle. However, for every ex-spook Brennan pulls out of his hat to accuse President-elect Donald Trump of being a «Russian agent», there are many more who have claimed that the CIA's «proof» of Russian interference in the 2016 election is pure malarkey.

Brennan and his cabal of dark players know fully well that it is the CIA that has pioneered in the art and science of election manipulation. In 1996, it was Russia that bore the brunt of CIA election manipulation with its agents-of-influence in Moscow and other large cities, namely the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and George Soros's Open Society Institute and Foundation, engaged in political dirty tricks aimed at undermining the electoral chances of the Russian Communist Party presidential candidate Gennady Zyuganov.

The CIA, Soros's operatives, and the NED printed and distributed fake campaign flyers claiming to have originated with the Zyuganov's campaign. The flyers advocated returning Russia to Stalinism and re-launching the Cold War against the West. The CIA and Soros dirty tricks operatives also announced to the press phony Zyuganov news conferences where no one showed up. The dirty tricks team also canceled reservations made by the Zyuganov campaign at hotels and public meeting halls. The CIA and their allies also helped to manipulate election returns and shaved votes from Zyuganov's total, particularly in Tatarstan and Bashkortostan. This helped the favored U.S. candidate, Boris Yeltsin, achieve a second-round victory of 54-to-40 percent over Zyuganov. In 2012, then-President Dmitry Medvedev said, «There is hardly any doubt who won [the '96 election]. It was not Boris Nikolaevich Yeltsin».

The CIA has been at the election manipulation game since its inception in 1947. In February 1948, a formerly Top Secret CIA document spelled out the efforts to be taken by the United States and its ambassador in Rome, James Dunn, in preparation for the April 1948 Italian election. Wheat shipments were to be increased from the United States to Italy to prevent a reduction in bread rations just prior to the election. U.S. military equipment was to be sent to Italy in the event martial law had to be declared if the Italian Communist Party, which had been in a coalition government with the Christian Democrats since 1944, was successful at the polls. Assisting this military effort was the political indoctrination of many Italian military officers and non-commissioned officers at military schools in the United States.

The CIA also directed a sharp stick at the Italian electorate, warning that Italians could not «combine the advantages of aid from the West with that of political safety and benefits from the Soviet Union». The CIA was worried that if the Soviet Union returned control of the city of Trieste to Italy and renounced Italy's war reparations to the Soviet Union prior to the April election, the Italian Communist Party would reap the electoral benefits and be victorious.

The CIA's political dirty tricks in Italy began in earnest when it covertly directed $1 million, contained mostly in «bags of money», to Christian Democratic politicians led by Prime Minister Alcide de Gaspari. The CIA used its front newspapers in Italy to publish forged letters, allegedly written by Italian Communist Party leaders, in an attempt to embarrass them publicly. Similarly, the CIA attempted to blackmail Italian Socialist Party leaders who were part of a Popular Front coalition with the Communists. The blackmail eventually led to a split within the Socialist Party ranks between party leader Pietro Nenni and anti-Communist leader Giuseppe Saragat. The CIA's manipulation paid off when the Christian Democrats won 48.5 percent of the vote and formed a new government without Communist participation.

When, in 1978, it appeared that the Christian Democrats, led by former Prime Minister Aldo Moro, were prepared to enact a «historic compromise» to share political power with the Italian Communist Party, the CIA instructed its agents-of-influence within Italy and the Vatican, the so-called «Gladio» network, to arrange for Moro's kidnapping and assassination and blame it on the leftist Italian Red Brigades. The CIA's psychological operation designed to blame radical Communists for Moro's death was successful when the Italian electorate voted overwhelmingly for a CIA-linked Christian Democratic faction opposed to any accommodation with the Communists. The CIA showed that it was not averse to political assassinations to achieve its electoral aims in other countries.

The CIA's involvement by hook and by crook in the 1948 Italian election was repeated in numerous nations around the world. In 1964, the CIA ensured that the Chilean Popular Action Front (FRAP) Socialist presidential candidate Salvador Allende was defeated by the Christian Democratic leader Eduardo Frei. The CIA pumped $3 million into Frei's campaign, mainly to generate anti-Allende propaganda. Allende lost the race with 38.6 percent of the vote to Frei's 55.6 percent. In 1970, Allende won the presidential election with a slim 36.4 percent of the vote against the CIA-backed former president Jorge Alessandri. The CIA set about immediately to undermine Allende and on September 11, 1973, a CIA-backed military coup resulted in Allende's assassination. The one thing that separates the CIA from other intelligence agencies that seek to influence elections, is that the CIA's hands are always dripping with blood.

The 1956 election in Ceylon (now known as Sri Lanka) saw an unpopular United National Party led by pro-Western Prime Minister John Kotelawala lose to the leftist Sri Lanka Freedom Party led by Solomon Bandaranaike. Although the Kotelawala government had received the largesse of CIA aid funneled through the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, it was not enough to save it from defeat by Bandaranaike's socialists. The CIA merely set about the undermine Bandaranaike's government with the icing on the cake being the prime minister's assassination in 1959, allegedly by a Buddhist monk who hid a revolver underneath his robes prior to a meeting with the prime minister at his private residence. The assassin's two conspirators received life sentences, while the trigger puller, Somarama Thero, was baptized as a Christian two days before his hanging. The CIA's MK-Ultra psychological operations program had already mastered in the science of creating programmed assassins.

Time and time again, the CIA has successfully engaged in election manipulation in parliamentary elections, presidential elections, popular referenda, and local and regional elections. The CIA is now directing its wealth of election chicanery toward the American electorate to discredit and undermine the legitimacy of the Trump presidency. For the sake of democracy everywhere, the CIA must be abolished.

[Luka]

Ei kannata olla yllättynyt jos sama vanha meno jatkuu uuden presidentin aikana. Trump on helposti ostettavissa.

Onko Trump liskoihmisiä? Onko hänellä liskon silmät?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxYKvkKVvME

[Faidros.]

Ei kannata olla yllättynyt jos sama vanha meno jatkuu uuden presidentin aikana. Trump on helposti ostettavissa.

No ei ole! Masiin täytyy olla kunnossa!
Ööö, tarkoitinko sitä, että Trump on ostettavissa rahalla, vai onko hänellä jo niin paljon rahaa ettei ole enää ostettavissa?

[Luka]

No ei ole! Masiin täytyy olla kunnossa!
Ööö, tarkoitinko sitä, että Trump on ostettavissa rahalla, vai onko hänellä jo niin paljon rahaa ettei ole enää ostettavissa?

Hintana henki.

[Lasse]

The Electors Vote: December 19, 2016
http://www.270towin.com/live-2016-presidential-election-vote-of-electors/

Tuolla seurataan valitsijamiesten äänien kertymistä. Toistaiseksi ei ullatyksiä.

[Valli]

Judge orders unsealing of search warrant in Clinton email probe

A federal judge has ordered the unsealing of a search warrant that played a role in the controversial public renewal of the investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's email just before the presidential election.

Loput linkin takaa...

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/clinton-email-probe-warrant-unsealed-232820

[Kremppamestari]

Hyvältä näyttää Trumpille.

[Valli]

The Electors Vote: December 19, 2016
http://www.270towin.com/live-2016-presidential-election-vote-of-electors/

Tuolla seurataan valitsijamiesten äänien kertymistä. Toistaiseksi ei ullatyksiä.

Tämä taisi olla Clintonin elektoraatti.

The faithless elector in MN. His ballot declared invalid. An alternate elector is appointed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Stowydad/status/810918403816964096

[Valli]

240 ääntä kasassa.

Michigan just announced that Trump got all 16 electoral votes, as per election results.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EdMorrissey/status/810927919694487554

[b_kansalainen]

https://demokraatti.fi/nyt-puhuu-elviksen-laheinen-han-ei-olisi-pitanyt-trumpista/
Nyt kaivetaan jo kaikki kuolleet julkkiksetkin haudasta paheksumaan Trumppia. Helppoa kun eivät voi itse kertoa mielipidettään.

[Aksiooma]

Bill Clinton meni taas mokaamaan. Oli vastannut jollekin randomille kaupassa, kun oli kysytty, onko Trump Clintonin mielestä älykäs? Clinton oli vastannut, että Trump ei osaa muuta kuin saada vihaiset valkoiset miehet äänestämään.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4048202/Now-Bill-Clinton-blames-FBI-wife-s-defeat-claiming-Comey-cost-election-accuses-Trump-knowing-except-make-angry-white-men-vote.html



Vasemmisto uppoaa silmiemme edessä.

[Vesa Heimo]

Bill Clinton meni taas mokaamaan. Oli vastannut jollekin randomille kaupassa, kun oli kysytty, onko Trump Clintonin mielestä älykäs? Clinton oli vastannut, että Trump ei osaa muuta kuin saada vihaiset valkoiset miehet äänestämään.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4048202/Now-Bill-Clinton-blames-FBI-wife-s-defeat-claiming-Comey-cost-election-accuses-Trump-knowing-except-make-angry-white-men-vote.html

Mikäs moka tuo on? Clinton on vaimoineen aika efektiivisesti eläkkeellä, melkoisen omaisuuden päällä istumassa ja American Expressa-luottokortti hoitaa loppuelämän juoksevat kulut. Saa kait sitä tuossa vaiheessa sanoa mitä ajattelee.

[Jaakko Sivonen]

Washingtonin osavaltiossa (jossa Clinton voitti vaalit) nähtiin valitsijamiesten protesteja:

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Jälkimmäinen on ilmeisesti joku intiaanijohtaja.

[Tosiasiallinen Nuiva]

Eiköhän tää ollut tässä. Clinton ei voi enää saada Trumppia kiinni, vaikka saisi kaikki jäljellä olevat äänet.

Kaiken kruunaa se, että Clintonin riveistä on livennyt 4 delegaattia ja Trumpin riveistä ei yhtään.

e.Jaa. No nyt Trump on saanut ehdottomaan enemmistöön vaadittavat vähintään 270 valitsijamiestä (juuri nyt 304), mutta kaksi Texasilaista on tehnyt oharit.

[Jaakko Sivonen]

Kaiken kruunaa se, että Clintonin riveistä on livennyt 4 delegaattia ja Trumpin riveistä ei yhtään:

Kaksi texasilaista valitsijamiestä ei äänestänyt Trumpia, vaan antoi äänensä toisille republikaaneille:

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[Lasse]

Se tais olla sitten siinä. 304 riittää...

Bonarina Newtin analyysiä:

Newt Gingrich on Trumpism: How Trump Beat the Liberal Media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIe95tyHQs4

[M.K]

Kaksi texasilaista valitsijamiestä ei äänestänyt Trumpia, vaan antoi äänensä toisille republikaaneille:

Petturit!

[Sheo]

Taitaa olla reilu sata vuotta kun viimeksi näinkin monta valitsijamiestä jättää äänestämättä kuin on ns. sovittu? Korjatkoon joku, jos olen väärässä.

[-PPT-]

Valitsijamiesjärjestelmä on kuulemma luotu sen takia, että viime kädessä se estää epäsopivan ja epäpätevän henkilön pääsyn presidentin virkaan. Hieman kyllä pakko sanoa, että varsinkin esivaalit ovat sellainen mylly että niiden läpi ei pysty täysin mitätön henkilö luovimaan vaan joutuu luovuttamaan kisan kesken.

Jos kansa onnistuu kaikista esivaaleista ja varsinaisesta vaalista huolimatta äänestämään valtaan hullun tai typeryksen niin silloin se ansaitsee johtajansa. Äänestettiinhän Suomessakin Halonen kaksi kertaa virkaansa.