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2020-05-25 George Floydin kuolema Minneapolisissa ja BLM-protestit ympäri maailmaa

Started by Mr.Reese, 28.05.2020, 19:15:53

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N. O. Hääppönen

Quote from: zupi on 28.08.2020, 11:32:53
Quote from: nollatoleranssi on 28.08.2020, 09:41:33

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Quote from: Sir on 28.08.2020, 01:32:29
Esimerkki tästä oli Breonna Taylorin ampuminen viime keväänä. Siinä poliisi murtautui tuollaisen no-knock warrantin kanssa väärään osoitteeseen, jossa ollut mies avasi sitten tulen poliisia kohtaan, mihin poliisi vastasi ja tappoi luodeillaan miehen tyttöystävän.

Poliisi ei mennyt väärään osoitteeseen. Breonna Taylorin aiempi mies oli poliisin jahtaama huumepomo ja Taylorin nähtiin kuuluvan osaksi huumebisnestä.

QuoteThirty-nine pages of leaked documents, obatined by WAVE 3 News, revealed Taylor's ex-boyfriend had his bank account registered to her address, gave her phone number as his own and allegedly borrowed a car hired under her name that would later be connected to a murder investigation of one of his associates.

The report was written by an investigator in the Place Based Investigation team which was working on the drugs case against Glover - but which is not part of the probe into Taylor's death. 

On February 14, just one month before Taylor died, Glover passed off Taylor's phone number as his own when he tried to file a complaint against a cop for towing his car, the report reveals. 

In the following 10 days, investigators verified that Glover was also using Taylor's home address - 3003 Springfield Drive - and that her property was listed as the mailing address for his Chase Bank account, it shows.

Mail addressed to Glover was reportedly seized from Taylor's apartment in the aftermath of her shooting. 

The report also documents a series of prison phone call transcripts between Glover and Taylor, when the convicted drug dealer was behind bars.

QuoteThe report also states that on January 2, the day before these calls were made and when Glover was not in police custody, he pulled up to 'trap house' 2424 Elliott Avenue driving Taylor's car.

Taylor was allegedly spotted on surveillance visiting the home on occasion.

Glover's vehicle - a red Dodge Charger - also made six trips to Taylor's home in January where he was sometimes pictured collecting packages, the report says.

Detectives believed Glover had been stashing money or drugs at her home to avoid detection from law enforcement. Neither money nor drugs were found there on March 13.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8671581/Breonna-Taylors-ex-boyfriend-arrested-drugs-charges.html

Ja poliisilla oli siis tuomarin allekirjoittama no-knock warrant kyseiseen osoitteeseen. Ikävä tapaus, mutta mitenköhän helvetissä tuokin taas kääntyy johonkin BLM-paskaksi.

Tämä paska leviää leviämistään. Ihan varmasti poliisi rynnäköi epäiltyä huumediileriä pidättämään ilmoittamatta kuuluvasti, että on poliisi.

QuoteLewis Hamilton vaati oikeutta poliisin ampumalle naiselle – F1-pomot tutkivat, rikkoiko kantaaottava paita sääntöjä
Lewis Hamilton vaatii Breonna Taylorin ampujia telkien taakse.
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Sama näkyy myös brittikuljettajan pukeutumisessa F1-viikonloppuina. Black Lives Matter -t-paita on ollut tuttu näky Hamiltonin yllä koko kauden ajan. Mugellossa Toscanan GP:ssä Hamiltonilla oli jälleen yllään paita, joka sisälsi voimakkaan viestin: "Pidättäkää poliisit, jotka tappoivat Breonna Taylorin".

Paidan selkämyksessä lukee iskulause "Say Her Name" eli "Sanokaa hänen nimensä", joka on yhdistetty juuri Taylorin kuolemaan ja nähty mm. NBA-tähtien pelipaidoissa kauden aikana.
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– Olen halunnut tuoda ihmisten tietoisuuteen sen, että ihmisiä tapetaan kaduilla. Ja joku tapettiin omassa talossaan. He (ampujat) olivat väärässä talossa, eikä ketään ole saatettu edesvastuuseen, Hamilton kommentoi paitaa sunnuntaina kilpailun jälkeen.
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New York Timesin mukaan Taylor ja hänen miesystävänsä Kenneth Walker olivat sängyssä, mutta nousivat kuultuaan ovelta pauketta.

Walker laukaisi aseensa ja poliisit ampuivat useita laukauksia. Tayloria ammuttiin ainakin kahdeksan kertaa.

Poliisi uskoi, että toisaalla kaupungissa operoineet huumekauppiaat käyttivät Taylorin asuntoa pakettien vastaanottamiseen. Tuomarin myöntämän kotietsintäluvan varjolla poliisi sai tunkeutua asuntoon ilman ilmoitusta. Asunnosta ei kuitenkaan löytynyt huumeita.

Poliisit sanovat ilmoittaneensa olleensa poliiseja ennen asuntoon menoa, mutta niin Walker kuin myös Taylorin perhe kiistävät kertomuksen.
https://www.is.fi/formula1/art-2000006635842.html
"Jos sukupuolitietoinen budjetointi erkaantuu sekä feministisistä kansalaisyhteiskunnan toimijoista että feministisestä tiedosta, se on vaarassa muodostua tekniseksi hyvän hallinnon käytännöksi, jonka suhde sukupuolittuneisiin yhteiskunnallisiin valtarakenteisiin on ohut."

– THL 23.3.2020

Valli

Silminnäkijän kertomus Kenoshasta.

QuoteHere's a first-hand story of the Kenosha riots.
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The day of the worst destruction, fires, looting, assaults... all of us in Kenosha were able to watch live -via independent media. The entire start to finish. The worst of it happened on 22nd & 60th, and I live on [redacted], so to tell you I was terrified is an understatement. The majority of Kenosha was watching our two [redacted] live footage well until 3am... police scanners on... bracing for the worst. It was apparent from the beginning there was no help. No police, no fire trucks no ambulances. None. Structures burned to the ground, people hurt and attacked were loaded into cars and raced to any hospital they could get to, rioters just broke into businesses and took what they wanted.

And we all watched it happen. There was nothing we could do.

A sleepless night, we faced the next day with more fear. A massive clean up effort, we helped as many homes and buisnesses as we could, brace for the night, we started to get inundated with messages from individuals and groups ... targeting violence to specific neighborhoods, schools, libraries.. with fires and destruction... lots of messages. Most specifically targeting LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS... families!!!

Cars and buses were coming in to the city with no plates... caravans of groups. Again, no extra police or national guard.

But the rioters came to Kenosha that night again.


Our PD and any help it had was standing ground at the PD building and courthouse... and many rioters did not know... our PD was trying to keep them from burning these down, not only because it was our infrastructure but because right between those buildings were A LOT of local inmates that were currently there due to Covid closing our jail (HUBER).

Again live, we watched hundreds of rioters throwing Molotov cocktails at these buildings and burning our city garbage trucks and dump trucks to the ground that we were using to protect these buildings.

I was afraid for the small line of policemen there that night.

Everyone was urging me and Jim to take all of my animals and to leave the city... and let my house burn. To run far away from Kenosha. I love my home. Those who know me, know the pride we have taken in buying an (as-is) house and turning it into a home. And my business! Could I let it be destroyed?? Absolutely NOT!

We have dear friends with a popular business just 4 houses away... we spend at least once a week there... they packed up boarded up and closed.. terrified ... it's on the main road.

All of us were now under now a state of emergency curfew. Get home and off the streets! gas stations ordered to close and turn OFF all gas pumps.. the sirens and alerts on all of our phones coming in non- stop.

So we pulled out every firearm we owned. Loaded them up. And started to get ready... We were not leaving... Jim's job told him to stay home and protect his family and home. Everyone in the city was getting ready for a war.

Are you starting to feel anxiety reading this?

Getting a grasp of how desperate we all were?

Knowing no law enforcement was helping? And I'm telling you... NO ONE was there.


I have a dear friend who lives in Gurnee. Has a home and a buisness there, and if she called me and Jim and told me her city was under attack, she was afraid for her LIFE and her store ... I would help her. We would go to Gurnee and help her. Armed.

And that's simply what happened. The residents started to realize this was on us. And we organized. Groups and individuals-On rooftop businesses -in the neighborhoods. I felt a little safer that night knowing we had some help.

So we watched again that night ...live. Beginning to end.

At the lakefront... there was a small police presence again, where our courthouse and Pd is.... but the PD was nowhere else in the city. It was just us left to fend for ourselves, watching live feed again, Listening to the scanners ... lights off, house alarm armed. Curtains drawn – guns ready as we listened to where the rioters were, which way they were headed. Despite the state of emergency curfew the city was flooded with cars driving around with no plates on, groups of people destroying our city. Not enough police to arrest or stop not ONE SINGLE PERSON.

Until the guard came to help... the entire city was left to its own defenses.

Hell... we ran out of plywood to board up!!!


I had the crates ready to throw the animals in and run... guns at every window and door. Constantly texting neighbors and friends around the city for updates.

When we say, if you don't live here, you could not possibly know what was going on.. do you now understand? How afraid the whole city was?

The national guard FINALLY was called out – and did not mess around. The people who terrorized and destroyed Kenosha were not from Kenosha. Of all the arrests... most were from 44 other city's. After our IDIOT governor finally asked, we got the help we should have had from DAY ONE. We had FBI and all the surrounding PD's come to our aid.

If...you don't live here... you could not possibly understand what we went thru. People should wait before they jump to conclusions. I just am disgusted beyond words at the judgement that's happening. DISGUSTED

For those of you with children to protect, a business you put your heart and soul in... a home you struggled to own and pay for.. you have got to understand what we all went thru. The fear and the instinct to protect what you love, and what you worked so hard for is strong. I hope no one ever has to go thru anything like this. (source)


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/everyone-city-was-ready-war-terrifying-eye-witness-account-kenosha-riots

ikuturso

Mietin tässä, että koska tulee ensimmäinen Mandalay Bay -tyyppinen vastaisku.

Jostain katolta tai ylhäältä alkaa sataa lyijyä. Paljon.
Tai tarkkuuskivääri. Kilometrin päästä. Yksi kerrallaan. Naps naps.

Tämä ei ole väkivaltafantasiointia. Olen ihmetellyt, että tuollaista reaktiota ei ole vielä kait tapahtunut missään.
Sinänsä yksi tuollainen sniper tai ryhmä sellaisia, joka/jotka/joista suurin osa vielä pääsisi pakenemaan jälkiä jättämättä - koska ei tuollaisessa kaaoksessa mitään jälkiä löydettäisi - varmaan pistäisi miettimään kannattako missään enää lähteä kadulle loottaamaan, koska niitti voi tulla mistä ilmansuunnasta hyvänsä. Omaan tai vieruskaverin päähän.

Tuon yllä olevan raportin kirjoittaja jo kertoi, että olivat ottaneet kaikki aseensa ja ladanneet ne valmiiksi odottaen vain pahinta. Kyle Rittenhouse jo käytti asettaan. Tosin lähietäisyydeltä ja jäi kiinni / antautui. Antautui osin päästäkseen mellakoitsijoilta turvaan. Joka on katsonut jenkkileffoja, niin puuttuu enää se stereotyyppinen Irakin sodan veteraani, jolla on tarkka-ampujakoulutus ja joka saa tarpeekseen.

-i-
Kun joku lausuu sanat, "tässä ei ole mitään laitonta", on asia ilmeisesti moraalitonta. - J.Sakari Hankamäki -
Maailmassa on tällä hetkellä virhe, joka toivottavasti joskus korjaantuu. - Jussi Halla-aho -
Mihin maailma menisi, jos kaikki ne asiat olisivat kiellettyjä, joista joku pahoittaa mielensä? -Elina Bonelius-

zupi

[tweet]1305660116688162821[/tweet]

QuoteAn internal email from the Department of Homeland Security leaked to CBS Catherine Herridge late Monday detailing that the violence in Portland was not "opportunistic," but rather "organized"—confirming long-suspected details about the Antifa movement.

The email explains that Antifa is organized and runs contrary to reports in the mainstream media that Antifa was not responsible for anti-police violence, but an impromptu movement spurred on by anti-fascist sentiments held by most of the American public

QuoteMurphy urged for an immediate change of definitions for the violent activity in Portland following a review of the individuals arrested by federal authorities, as well as intelligence surrounding their affiliations and activities.

"The individuals are violently attacking the Federal facilities based on these ideologies," he said in regards to Antifa, which he classed as VAAI or "VIOLENT ANTIFA ANARCHISTS INSPIRED."

Quote"Threat actors who are motivated by Anarchist or ANTIFA (or a combination of both) ideologies to carry out acts of violence against State, Local, and Federal authorities and infrastructure they believe represent authority or represent political and social ideas they reject," Murphy concluded.

https://thepostmillennial.com/dhs-leaked-email-confirms-that-antifa-is-an-organized-group

[tweet]1305672451230175232[/tweet]

ikuturso

ˆ Koitin tulkita ketjua. Siis onko nämä alimman twiitin veriset poliisit niitä joita se Gunman (vai Kid) kävi ampumassa poliisiauton lasin läpi?

(lunatics tell our kids that the cops are the bad guys) ??

MUOKS: Luin lisää kommentteja ja avasin pari kommenttiketjua. Eli kyseessä ovat siis juuri he.

MUOKS2: Viitaten edelliseen kirjoitukseeni, tuolla alakuvan twiittiketjussa joku jo ehdottaa poliisipartioiden suojaksi (tosin poliisin omia) tarkka-ampujia katoille. Joku toinen taas kyselee, missä on Sylvester Stallone silloin, kun häntä tarvittaisiin... Eli tarkka-ampujat ja kaiken maailman rambot jo toivelistalla.
Tuo katolta ampuminenhan on kunnon villin lännen meininkiä. Vanhoissa westerneissä aina kun kaduille odotettiin kärhämöintiä nyrkein tai lyhytpiippuisilla, oli katoilla ja yläikkunoissa kiväärimiehet passissa. Milloin pahikset sankareita vastassa tai milloin sheriffin miehet pahiksia vartoomassa.

-i-
Kun joku lausuu sanat, "tässä ei ole mitään laitonta", on asia ilmeisesti moraalitonta. - J.Sakari Hankamäki -
Maailmassa on tällä hetkellä virhe, joka toivottavasti joskus korjaantuu. - Jussi Halla-aho -
Mihin maailma menisi, jos kaikki ne asiat olisivat kiellettyjä, joista joku pahoittaa mielensä? -Elina Bonelius-

Roope

Quote from: qwerty on 23.08.2020, 14:00:05
British anthems Rule, Britannia and Land of Hope and Glory could be axed from the BBC Proms amid the Black Lives Matter movement, an insider has claimed.

The broadcaster is considering dropping the patriotic songs from the Last Night concert due to fears of criticism because of their apparent links to colonialism and slavery, the Times reported.

Dalia Stasevska, who is conducting the Last Night on September 12, is said to believe 'a ceremony without an audience is the perfect moment to bring change.'

'Dalia is a big supporter of Black Lives Matter,' a source added.

QuoteSuomalaiskapellimestari yhden mielestä "vaisu", toisen mukaan "tarmokas": Kulttuurikiistan kohteeksi joutunut BBC:n Proms-päätöskonsertti sai ristiriitaiset arviot

Annamari Sipilä

Konserttia edelsi kolmen viikon kiista isänmaallisista lauluista. Koronapandemia pani perinteet jäihin, kun yleisö ei päässyt mukaan laulamaan.

[...]

"Kansakunta ei kaipaa nyt kulttuurisotaa, vaan piristysruiskeen, ja sen BBC:n tarjoili viime yönä loistavasti", lehti kirjoitti arviossaan.

Kapellimestarin The Telegraph mainitsee vain yhdessä kappaleessa:

"Mitä tulee Rule Britanniaan [kiistelty isänmaallinen laulu], sen kajautti BBC:n kuoro Albert Hallin [konserttisali] permannolta – kuten myös Land of Hope and Gloryn [toinen kiistelty laulu] samalla kun taustan loivat valtavalla innolla soittanut BBC:n sinfoniaorkesteri sekä uskomattoman tarmonpuuskan saanut kapellimestari Dalia Stasevska."

[...]

BBC:N mukaan taas "hillityn" illan puheenaihe oli säveltäjä Errollyn Wallenin radikaali uudelleensovitus Hubert Parryn Jerusalemista.

Vanhan suosikin esitys oli nyt kunnianosoitus Britanniaan toisen maailmansodan jälkeen Karibian maista tulleille Windrush-siirtolaisille. Heistä monia yritettiin häätää Britanniasta väärin perustein 2010-luvulla, mikä johti pari vuotta sitten isoon poliittiseen skandaaliin.

[...]

THE GUARDIAN -LEHTI puolestaan antoi päätöskonsertille vain kaksi tähteä viidestä.

"Päätöskonsertti ei onnistunut osoittamaa johtajuutta ja sanomaan suoria sanoja aikana, jolloin musiikkiala on vakavan uhan alla, ja rakenteellinen rasismi dominoi uutisotsikoita", The Guardianin arvio moitti.

[...]

Tänä vuonna päätöskonsertista kiinnostuivat myös tahot, jotka eivät yleensä seuraa klassista musiikkia. Konsertissa joka vuosi esitettävät patrioottiset laulut joutuivat kiistan kohteeksi. Alun perin hyllytetyksi uumoillut laulut palautettiin BBC:n päätöksellä ohjelmistoon.

Laulujen hyllyttäjäksi virheellisesti väitetty Stasevska ehti saada tappouhkauksia ja tuhansia uhkaavia viestejä.

Kapellimestari joutui antamaan kohusta tiedotteen, jonka mukaan hänellä ei ole ollut osuutta päätöksentekoon perinteisestä ohjelmistosta.
Helsingin Sanomat 15.9.2020

Kapellimestari Dalia Stasevska ei puhu tiedotteessaan tappouhkauksista vaan uhkauksista. Väite tappouhkauksista on toimittaja Sipilän lainaaman vasemmistolaisen höpölehti The Guardianin väritystä, johon muu brittimedia ei ole lähtenyt.
Mediaseuranta - Maahanmuuttoaiheiset uutiset, tiedotteet ja tutkimukset

Simo_Toini

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BBC eli Biased Broadcasting Company voi toki saada aikaan "pysyvän muutoksen" eli woke-konsertit tosiaankin pidetään ilman yleisöä. Ihan vielä ei pokka loppuun asti pitänyt.

The Guardian taas tekee parhaansa "rakenteellisen rasismin" pitämiseksi otsikoissa, nimittäin siten, että BLM merkitsee valikoitujen uhrien elämällä olevan väliä, ei mustien roistojen murhaamien mustien poliisien. Trumpin kannattajatko ne muuten estävät kadulla mustan isoäidin pääsemisen apteekkiin? Tai marraskuussa äänestämään...

"Intersektionaalinen feminismi" sopii loistavasti myös kapellimestariuteen: Jos arvostelu on huono, kyseessä on sorto. Sen sijaan paikan tai keikan saamisella ei ole mitään tekemistä sukupuolen kanssa esim. siten, että keskinkertaisuus rulettaa.

Eipä kiinnosta enää mikään em. woke-sirkuksista. Hiukan hymyilyttää, enempää en viitsi seurata. Terveiset myös YLE:n annoille. Olette mennyttä aikaa.
"Minulla on 100 miljoonan euron tuliaiset, kun tulen kotiin, oululainen Eurooppa-ministeri Tytti Tuppurainen (sd.) iloitsee. Kehossa tuntuu nuutuneisuus, mutta se ei mielialaa lannista, sanoo Tuppurainen, joka pitää neuvottelutulosta hyvänä sekä Suomen että Pohjois-Suomen näkökulmasta. "Sanomalehti" Kaleva 23.7.2020

zupi

Laitetaan nyt tähän ketjuun, kun marxismi ketju on peräkammarin puolella, sen verran painavaa settiä. Ja liittyy kuitenkin hyvin läheisesti myös BLM-perseilyyn.

https://quillette.com/2020/08/16/the-challenge-of-marxism/

QuoteThe Challenge of Marxism

QuoteFor a generation after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989, most Americans and Europeans regarded Marxism as an enemy that had been defeated once and for all. But they were wrong. A mere 30 years later, Marxism is back, and making an astonishingly successful bid to seize control of the most important American media companies, universities and schools, major corporations and philanthropic organizations, and even the courts, the government bureaucracy, and some churches. As American cities succumb to rioting, arson, and looting, it appears as though the liberal custodians of many of these institutions—from the New York Times to Princeton University—have despaired of regaining control of them, and are instead adopting a policy of accommodation. That is, they are attempting to appease their Marxist employees by giving in to some of their demands in the hope of not being swept away entirely.

We don't know what will happen for certain. But based on the experience of recent years, we can venture a pretty good guess. Institutional liberalism lacks the resources to contend with this threat. Liberalism is being expelled from its former strongholds, and the hegemony of liberal ideas, as we have known it since the 1960s, will end. Anti-Marxist liberals are about to find themselves in much the same situation that has characterized conservatives, nationalists, and Christians for some time now: They are about to find themselves in the opposition.

(...)

This is the new reality that is emerging. There is blood in the water and the new Marxists will not rest content with their recent victories. In America, they will press their advantage and try to seize the Democratic Party. They will seek to reduce the Republican Party to a weak imitation of their own new ideology, or to ban it outright as a racist organization. And in other democratic countries, they will attempt to imitate their successes in America. No free nation will be spared this trial. So let us not avert our eyes and tell ourselves that this curse isn't coming for us. Because it is coming for us.

QuoteAnti-Marxist liberals have labored under numerous disadvantages in the recent struggles to maintain control of liberal organizations. One is that they are often not confident they can use the term "Marxist" in good faith to describe those seeking to overthrow them. This is because their tormentors do not follow the precedent of the Communist Party, the Nazis, and various other political movements that branded themselves using a particular party name and issued an explicit manifesto to define it. Instead, they disorient their opponents by referring to their beliefs with a shifting vocabulary of terms, including "the Left," "Progressivism," "Social Justice," "Anti-Racism," "Anti-Fascism," "Black Lives Matter," "Critical Race Theory," "Identity Politics," "Political Correctness," "Wokeness," and more. When liberals try to use these terms they often find themselves deplored for not using them correctly, and this itself becomes a weapon in the hands of those who wish to humiliate and ultimately destroy them.

The best way to escape this trap is to recognize the movement presently seeking to overthrow liberalism for what it is: an updated version of Marxism. I do not say this to disparage anyone. I say this because it is true. And because recognizing this truth will help us understand what we are facing.

The new Marxists do not use the technical jargon that was devised by 19th-century Communists. They don't talk about the bourgeoisie, proletariat, class struggle, alienation of labor, commodity fetishism, and the rest, and in fact they have developed their own jargon tailored to present circumstances in America, Britain, and elsewhere. Nevertheless, their politics are based on Marx's framework for critiquing liberalism (what Marx calls the "ideology of the bourgeoisie") and overthrowing it. We can describe Marx's political framework as follows:

    1. Oppressor and oppressed
    Marx argues that, as an empirical matter, people invariably form themselves into cohesive groups (he calls them classes), which exploit one another to the extent they are able. A liberal political order is no different in this from any other (...)

    2. False consciousness
    Marx recognizes that the liberal businessmen, politicians, lawyers, and intellectuals who keep this system in place are unaware that they are the oppressors, and that what they think of as progress has only established new conditions of oppression. Indeed, even the working class may not know that they are exploited and oppressed.  (...)

    3. Revolutionary reconstitution of society
    Marx suggests that, historically, oppressed classes have materially improved their conditions only through a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large—that is, through the destruction of the oppressor class, and of the social norms and ideas that hold the regime of systematic oppression in place.  (...)

    4. Total disappearance of class antagonisms
    Marx promises that after the oppressed underclass takes control of the state, the exploitation of individuals by other individuals will be "put to an end" and the antagonism between classes of individuals will totally disappear. How this is to be done is not specified.

Marxist political theories have undergone much development and elaboration over nearly two centuries. (...) But for present purposes, this level of detail is not necessary, and I will use the term "Marxist" in a broad sense to refer to any political or intellectual movement that is built upon Marx's general framework as I've just described it. This includes the "Progressive" or "Anti-Racism" movement now advancing toward the conquest of liberalism in America and Britain. This movement uses racialist categories such as whites and people of color to describe the oppressors and the oppressed in our day. But it relies entirely on Marx's general framework for its critique of liberalism and for its plan of action against the liberal political order. It is simply an updated Marxism.

QuoteWhen liberals and conservatives talk about Marxism being "nothing but a big lie," this is what they mean. The Marxist goal of seizing the state and using it to eliminate all oppression is an empty promise. Marx did not know how the state could actually bring this about, and neither have any of his followers. In fact, we now have many historical cases in which Marxists have seized the state: In Russia and Eastern Europe, China, North Korea, and Cambodia, Cuba and Venezuela. But nowhere has the Marxists' attempt at a "revolutionary reconstitution of society" by the state been anything other than a parade of horrors. In every case, the Marxists themselves form a new class or group, using the power of the state to exploit and oppress other classes in the most extreme ways—up to and including repeated recourse to murdering millions of their own people. Yet for all this, utopia never comes and oppression never ends.

QuoteIt is often said that liberalism and Marxism are "opposites," with liberalism committed to freeing the individual from coercion by the state and Marxism endorsing unlimited coercion in pursuit of a reconstituted society. But what if it turned out that liberalism has a tendency to give way and transfer power to Marxists within a few decades? Far from being the opposite of Marxism, liberalism would merely be a gateway to Marxism.

(...)

Enlightenment liberalism is a rationalist system built on the premise that human beings are, by nature, free and equal. It is further asserted that this truth is "self-evident," meaning that all of us can recognize it through the exercise of reason alone, without reference to the particular national or religious traditions of our time and place.

But there are difficulties with this system. One of these is that, as it turns out, highly abstract terms such as freedom, equality, and justice cannot be given stable content by means of reason alone. (...)

I've said that every society consists of classes or groups. These stand in various power relations to one another, which find expression in the political, legal, religious, and moral traditions that are handed down by the strongest classes or groups. It is only within the context of these traditions that we come to believe that words like freedom and equality mean one thing and not another, and to develop a "common sense" of how different interests and concerns are to be balanced against one another in actual cases.

But what happens if you dispense with those traditions? This, after all, is what Enlightenment liberalism seeks to do. Enlightenment liberals observe that inherited traditions are always flawed or unjust in certain ways, and for this reason they feel justified in setting inherited tradition aside and appealing directly to abstract principles such as freedom and equality. The trouble is, there is no such thing as a society in which everyone is free and equal in all ways. Even in a liberal society, there will always be countless ways in which a given class or group may be unfree or unequal with respect to the others. And since this is so, Marxists will always be able to say that some or all of these instances of unfreedom and inequality are instances of oppression.

Thus the endless dance of liberalism and Marxism, which goes like this:

    1. Liberals declare that henceforth all will be free and equal, emphasizing that reason (not tradition) will determine the content of each individual's rights.

    2. Marxists, exercising reason, point to many genuine instances of unfreedom and inequality in society, decrying them as oppression and demanding new rights.

    3. Liberals, embarrassed by the presence of unfreedom and inequality after having declared that all would be free and equal, adopt some of the Marxists' demands for new rights.

    4. Return to #1 above and repeat.

(...)

First, notice that the dance is a byproduct of liberalism. It exists because Enlightenment liberalism sets freedom and equality as the standard by which government is to be judged, and describes the individual's power of reason alone, independent of tradition, as the instrument by which this judgment is to be obtained. In so doing, liberalism creates Marxists.  (...)

Second, the dance only moves in one direction. In a liberal society, Marxist criticism brings many liberals to progressively abandon the conceptions of freedom and equality  (...)

The key to understanding this dynamic is this: Although liberals believe their views are "self-evident" or the "product of reason," most of the time they are actually relying on inherited conceptions of what freedom and equality are, and inherited norms of how to apply these concepts to real-world cases. In other words, the conflict between liberalism and its Marxist critics is one between a dominant class or group wishing to conserve its traditions (liberals), and a revolutionary group (Marxists) combining criticial reasoning with a willingness to jettison all inherited constraints to overthrow these traditions. But while Marxists know very well that their aim is to destroy the intellectual and cultural traditions that are holding liberalism in place, their liberal opponents for the most part refuse to engage in the kind of conservatism that would be needed to defend their traditions and strengthen them. Indeed, liberals frequently disparage tradition, telling their children and students that all they need is to reason freely and "draw your own conclusions."

QuoteNot very long ago, most of us living in free societies knew that Marxism was not compatible with democracy. But with liberal institutions overrun by "Progressives" and "Anti-Racists," much of what was once obvious about Marxism, and much of what was once obvious about democracy, has been forgotten. It is time to revisit some of these once-obvious truths.

(...)

The most basic thing one needs to know about a democratic regime, then, is this: You need to have at least two legitimate political parties for democracy to work. By a legitimate political party, I mean one that is recognized by its rivals as having a right to rule if it wins an election. For example, a liberal party may grant legitimacy to a conservative party (even though they don't like them much), and in return this conservative party may grant legitimacy to a liberal party (even though they don't like them much). Indeed, this is the way most modern democratic nations have been governed.

But legitimacy is one of those traditional political concepts that Marxist criticism is now on the verge of destroying. From the Marxist point of view, our inherited concept of legitimacy is nothing more than an instrument the ruling classes use to perpetuate injustice and oppression.  (...)

Simply put, the Marxist framework and democratic political theory are opposed to one another in principle. A Marxist cannot grant legitimacy to liberal or conservative points of view without giving up the heart of Marxist theory, which is that these points of view are inextricably bound up with systematic injustice and must be overthrown, by violence if necessary. This is why the very idea that a dissenting opinion—one that is not "Progressive" or "Anti-Racist"—could be considered legitimate has disappeared from liberal institutions as Marxists have gained power. At first, liberals capitulated to their Marxist colleagues' demand that conservative viewpoints be considered illegitimate (because conservatives are "authoritarian" or "fascist"). This was the dynamic that brought about the elimination of conservatives from most of the leading universities and media outlets in America.

But by the summer of 2020, this arrangement had run its course. In the United States, Marxists were now strong enough to demand that liberals fall into line on virtually any issue they considered pressing.  (...)

Until 2016, America sill had two legitimate political parties. But when Donald Trump was elected president, the talk of his being "authoritarian" or "fascist" was used to discredit the traditional liberal point of view, according to which a duly elected president, the candidate chosen by half the public through constitutional procedures, should be accorded legitimacy. Instead a "resistance" was declared, whose purpose was to delegitimize the president, those who worked with him, and those who voted for him.

I know that many liberals believe that this rejection of Trump's legitimacy was directed only at him, personally. They believe, as a liberal friend wrote to me recently, that when this particular president is removed from office, America will be able to return to normal.

But nothing of the sort is going to happen. The Marxists who have seized control of the means of producing and disseminating ideas in America cannot, without betraying their cause, confer legitimacy on any conservative government. And they cannot grant legitimacy to any form of liberalism that is not supine before them. This means that whatever President Trump's electoral fortunes, the "resistance" is not going to end. It is just beginning.

With the Marxist conquest of liberal institutions, we have entered a new phase in American history (and, consequently, in the history of all democratic nations). We have entered the phase in which Marxists, having conquered the universities, the media, and major corporations, will seek to apply this model to the conquest of the political arena as a whole.

How will they do this? As in the universities and the media, they will use their presence within liberal institutions to force liberals to break the bonds of mutual legitimacy that bind them to conservatives—and therefore to two-party democracy. They will not demand the delegitimization of just President Trump, but of all conservatives. We've already seen this in the efforts to delegitimize the views of Senators Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton, and Tim Scott, as well as the media personality Tucker Carlson and others. Then they will move on to delegitimizing liberals who treat conservative views as legitimate, such as James Bennet, Bari Weiss, and Andrew Sullivan. As was the case in the universities and media, many liberals will accommodate these Marxist tactics in the belief that by delegitimizing conservatives they can appease the Marxists and turn them into strategic allies.

But the Marxists will not be appeased because what they're after is the conquest of liberalism itself—already happening as they persuade liberals to abandon their traditional two-party conception of political legitimacy, and with it their commitment to a democratic regime. The collapse of the bonds of mutual legitimacy that have tied liberals to conservatives in a democratic system of government will not make the liberals in question Marxists quite yet. But it will make them the supine lackeys of these Marxists, without the power to resist anything that "Progressives" and "Anti-Racists" designate as being important. And it will get them accustomed to the coming one-party regime, in which liberals will have a splendid role to play—if they are willing to give up their liberalism.

I know that many liberals are confused, and that they still suppose there are various alternatives before them. But it isn't true. At this point, most of the alternatives that existed a few years ago are gone. Liberals will have to choose between two alternatives: either they will submit to the Marxists, and help them bring democracy in America to an end. Or they will assemble a pro-democracy alliance with conservatives. There aren't any other choices.

QuoteYoram Hazony, President of the Herzl Institute in Jerusalem and author of The Virtue of Nationalism, is chairman of the Edmund Burke Foundation.

Suomessahan mitään tuollaista ei ole tapahtunut, eikä voi myöskään tapahtua...

Eisernes Kreuz

Yhdysvalloissa ainakin on nyt käynnissä marxilainen vallankumous. Toki kyseessä on tällä kertaa hieman erilainen marxismi kuin 1900-luvulla, mutta vaikka painotukset ovatkin muuttuneet, edelleen on kyse kumouksellisesta liikkeestä, joka haluaa romuttaa vallitsevan yhteiskuntajärjestelmän ja korvata sen omanlaisella totalitarismillaan. Yhteiskuntaluokkien tilalle ovat nyt tulleet erilaiset rotu- ym. identiteetit, ja feminismiin vetoaminen on korvannut proletariaattiin turvautumisen.

Nähtävästi liittovaltion virastot on USA:ssa jo hyvin tehokkaasti mädätetty marxilais-feministisellä propagandalla.

There is freedom of speech, but freedom after speech, that I cannot guarantee.
- Idi Amin, diktaattori

MannaSariini

Kuinka pitkään tämä "kriittisen rotuteorian" rotuopeilla mädätys on jatkunut USA:n julkishallinnossa? Onko jatkunut läpi niin useiden republikaani- kuin demokraattipresidenttienkin kausien? Trumpinkin kohdalla voi miettiä, miksei hän puuttunut tähän jo aiemmin. Eikö tästä laajasta uudelleenkoulutuksesta ollut oikeasti tietoa aiemmin? Toki parempi myöhään kuin ei milloinkaan. Vaikken mikään Trump-fani olekaan, nostan hänelle hattua tähän mädätykseen puuttumisesta. Jos Kamala Harris ja Hidas Biden pääsevät Valkoiseen1 taloon, epäilemättä kaikki Trumpin torjuma - woke-natsien uuskielessä antirasistinen - rasistinen mädätys tullaan palauttamaan ja laitetaan vielä uutta kaupanpäälle.

1 Onko tälle talolle tarjolla jokin vähemmän "rasistinen" ja "valkoista ylivaltaa" henkivä nimi, joka ei toimi estäen "vähemmistöihin" kuuluvan presidentteyttä? Olisiko esim. Diversity House tai Black Lives Matter House hyvä nimi?
Totuus on rasistinen

-PPT-

Se vaihe on kyllä ohitettu jossa asioita ratkaistaisiin äänestämällä mutta jos Trump onnistuu  edelleen voittamaan niin silloin on odotettavissa aivan täysimittainen kapina mutta ei Bideninkaan voitto enää rauhanomaista ratkaisua tuo. Varsinkin kun hänet pian syrjäyttää Kamala Harris täysipainoisesti kannattaa tätä mellakoivaa väkeä.

Lalli IsoTalo

Quote from: Eisernes Kreuz on 15.09.2020, 20:41:46
Yhdysvalloissa ainakin on nyt käynnissä marxilainen vallankumous. Toki kyseessä on tällä kertaa hieman erilainen marxismi kuin 1900-luvulla ...

Eka satsi - Marx & valkoinen mies -  ei toiminut, koska valkoinen mies vastusti suunnitelmaa. 

Toka satsi, plan B  - Marx & Freud & vähemmistöt - toimii vielä huonommin, koska kaikki on entistä tehokkaammin ihmisluonnon vastaisesti, päälaellaan, antirationaalisesti ja käänteisloogisesti. 

Homo sovieticus oli inhimillinen, kun tähän Homo Insanikseen vertaa.

Eka satsi tuotti 100 miljoonaa murhattua oman maan kansalaista. Toka satsi tuskin pääsee samoihin lukemiin, vaikka mieli kovasti tekisikin. Tuskin ne ydinpommejakaan uskaltavat alkaa käyttää, siinä voisi mennä herrakansakin samalla.
— Monikulttuuri = Kulttuurien sota
— Pakkomamutus = Kansanmurha
— Valtionvelka = Lapsen velkaorjuus
— Ei omaisuutta = Systeemin orja
— Digital ID = Systeemin orja
— Vihreä siirtymä = Kallis luontotuho
— Hiilineutraalius = VHM:n kuristus
— DEI, woke, SDP = Tasa-arvon tuho
— Valkoinen =  Rotusyyllinen
— Missä N, siellä R

Kokoliha

Quote from: Eisernes Kreuz on 15.09.2020, 20:41:46
Yhdysvalloissa ainakin on nyt käynnissä marxilainen vallankumous. Toki kyseessä on tällä kertaa hieman erilainen marxismi kuin 1900-luvulla, mutta vaikka painotukset ovatkin muuttuneet, edelleen on kyse kumouksellisesta liikkeestä, joka haluaa romuttaa vallitsevan yhteiskuntajärjestelmän ja korvata sen omanlaisella totalitarismillaan. Yhteiskuntaluokkien tilalle ovat nyt tulleet erilaiset rotu- ym. identiteetit, ja feminismiin vetoaminen on korvannut proletariaattiin turvautumisen.

Nähtävästi liittovaltion virastot on USA:ssa jo hyvin tehokkaasti mädätetty marxilais-feministisellä propagandalla.

USA luuli voittaneensa, kun Neuvostoliitto romahti.

USA erehtyi. USA / Ronald Regan (hatunnosto hänelle) jätti voitonriemuissaan huomioimatta ja USA ei ymmärtänyt jatkaa Ronald Reaganin jättämää perintöä ja jätti siivoamatta kunnolla oman pesänsä, jonne Neukkula oli ehtinyt kylvää mädätyksen tuhoisat ja salakavalat siemenet. Olisi tarvittu McCarthy v 2.0. Siemenet jäivät itämään, laajenivat hiljaa kuin verkostoituva syöpä USA:n ulkopuolellekin kantaen nyt mätää ja haisevaa hedelmäänsä niin USA:ssa kuin Euroopassakin.

Nyt on Trumpilla edessä ankara urakka. Toivotaan hänelle jaksamista ja että potilas selviää tuskallisesta leikkauksesta, joka on vääjäämättä edessä. Saanemme lähivuosina nähdä, saavuttiko jo edesmennyt Neuvostoliitto sittenkin lopullisen voiton.

Edit: Korjattu alla olevan, jäsen zupin ansiokkaan postauksen myötä

zupi

Quote from: MannaSariini on 15.09.2020, 21:03:07
Kuinka pitkään tämä "kriittisen rotuteorian" rotuopeilla mädätys on jatkunut USA:n julkishallinnossa? Onko jatkunut läpi niin useiden republikaani- kuin demokraattipresidenttienkin kausien? (...)

Tietyissä organisaatioissahan tuo on varmasti jatkunut jo pitkään, mutta yleisemmällä tasolla homma alkoi tietenkin Obaman määräyksestä, mistäpä muualtakaan...

Quote2011 Executive Order on Diversity

On August 18, 2011, President Obama issued an Executive Order entitled "Establishing a Coordinated Government-wide Initiative to Promote Diversity and Inclusion in the Federal Workforce". The gist of the Order was directing agencies to emphasize diversity and inclusion throughout the federal workforce.

So far, so good. But the devil is in the details. In this case, the implementation of the memo may or may not have been what President Obama intended but has taken on a life of its own in any event.

https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/09/07/race-training-federal-employees-is-sickness/

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2011/08/18/executive-order-13583-establishing-coordinated-government-wide-initiativ

Itse olen sitä mieltä, että Obama tiesi tasan tarkkaan mitä oli tekemässä. Pistetään tähän kohtaan uudestaan tämä aiemmin linkkaamani pätkä:

Economist Thomas Sowell Talks About Harvard Obama & Derrick Bell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDeL-UK1p24&feature=youtu.be

Niin kuin tasan tarkkaan tietää myös eräs Kiiluvasilmä, mitä on tekemässä.

Quote from: Kokoliha on 15.09.2020, 22:44:27

(...)

USA erehtyi. USA / Ronald Regan (hatunnosto hänelle) jätti voitonriemuissaan huomioimatta ja siivoamatta oman pesänsä, jonne Neukkula oli ehtinyt kylvää mädätyksen tuhoisat ja salakavalat siemenet.  (...)

Ei jättänyt huomioimatta, mutta kaipa sillä on rajansa mitä yksi ihminen pystyy tekemään.

Quote
Alla kirjoituksessa ollut pätkä Ronald Reaganin jäähyväispuheesta, kokonaisuudessaan kun se ei varsinaisesti kuulu artikkeliin.

Quote"There is a great tradition of warnings in presidential farewells, and I've got one that's been on my mind for some time. But oddly enough it starts with one of the things I'm proudest of in the past eight years: the resurgence of national pride that I called the new patriotism. This national feeling is good, but it won't count for much, and it won't last unless it's grounded in thoughtfulness and knowledge.

"An informed patriotism is what we want. And are we doing a good enough job teaching our children what America is and what she represents in the long history of the world? Those of us who are over 35 or so years of age grew up in a different America. We were taught, very directly, what it means to be an American. And we absorbed, almost in the air, a love of country and an appreciation of its institutions.

"If you didn't get these things from your family you got them from the neighborhood, from the father down the street who fought in Korea or the family who lost someone at Anzio. Or you could get a sense of patriotism from school. And if all else failed you could get a sense of patriotism from the popular culture. The movies celebrated democratic values and implicitly reinforced the idea that America was special. TV was like that, too, through the mid-60s.

"But now, we're about to enter the '90s, and some things have changed. Younger parents aren't sure that an unambivalent appreciation of America is the right thing to teach modern children. And as for those who create the popular culture, well-grounded patriotism is no longer the style. Our spirit is back, but we haven't reinstitutionalized it. We've got to do a better job of getting across that America is freedom – freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of enterprise. And freedom is special and rare. It's fragile; it needs [protection].

"So, we've got to teach history based not on what's in fashion but what's important – why the Pilgrims came here, who Jimmy Doolittle was, and what those 30 seconds over Tokyo meant. You know, four years ago on the 40th anniversary of D-day, I read a letter from a young woman writing to her late father, who'd fought on Omaha Beach. Her name was Lisa Zanatta Henn, and she said, `we will always remember, we will never forget what the boys of Normandy did.'

"Well, let's help her keep her word. If we forget what we did, we won't know who we are. I'm warning of an eradication of the American memory that could result, ultimately, in an erosion of the American spirit. Let's start with some basics: more attention to American history and a greater emphasis on civic ritual."

QuoteIt would have been a struggle to win this fight for America 31 years ago when President Reagan warned us of the consequence of teaching falsehoods and anti-American lies. Now it will be much, much harder.

https://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,130391.msg3194547.html#msg3194547

Pistetään vielä tämäkin, siis Reaganilta:

Quote"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/13915-freedom-is-never-more-than-one-generation-away-from-extinction

Ajattara

Nyt jotkut tahot pyrkivät kiertämään tuota CRT-kieltoa julistamalla rasisimin "kansanterveydelliseksi hätätilaksi" (public health crisis).

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War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.

WinstonSmith

Emme pärjää ilman monikulttuuria, tarvitsemme näitä lisää, koska monikulttuuri on niin ihanaa. Enää Yhdysvalloissa ei voi edes lentää ilman että joku afrikkalainen kunigatar ei ala pitämään rasistista BLM protestia lentokoneessa.

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President Putin: Our state was built around values of multiethnic harmony. 

❗️ Our adversaries, people with neo-colonial mindsets – halfwits, in fact – are unable to realise that diversity makes us stronger.

nochWunder

Quote from: Eisernes Kreuz on 15.09.2020, 20:41:46
Yhdysvalloissa ainakin on nyt käynnissä marxilainen vallankumous. Toki kyseessä on tällä kertaa hieman erilainen marxismi kuin 1900-luvulla, mutta vaikka painotukset ovatkin muuttuneet, edelleen on kyse kumouksellisesta liikkeestä, joka haluaa romuttaa vallitsevan yhteiskuntajärjestelmän ja korvata sen omanlaisella totalitarismillaan. Yhteiskuntaluokkien tilalle ovat nyt tulleet erilaiset rotu- ym. identiteetit, ja feminismiin vetoaminen on korvannut proletariaattiin turvautumisen.

Nähtävästi liittovaltion virastot on USA:ssa jo hyvin tehokkaasti mädätetty marxilais-feministisellä propagandalla.

Se menee aina näin. Paljon tärkeämpää kuin ne aatteet, joita vallankumousliike väittää omaavansa on käytös ja asenne. Niistä nähdään, että kyse on taas samasta jengistä. Kyllä se historian toistuminen voidaan estää, kun ihmiset oppivat tunnistamaan mitä marxilaiset liikkeet ovat primitiivisellä tasolla. Mutta vielä tällä hetkellä tuijotetaan aatteiden symboleita, määritelimiä ja nimiä. Niillä ei ole mitään tekemistä minkään kanssa. Kyse on kateudesta ja halusta jakaa nallekarkit uusiksi.
Suomessa on todellisuudessa vain yksi puolue aina vallassa, vapaamuurarit. Heitä ohjaa eliitti. Ihmisten pitää herätä tajuamaan tämä. Koko valtiovalta kuuluu vankilaan!

vihapuhegeneraattori

BLM roskasakki meni pistään bileet pystyyn jonkun Trumpin kannattajan talolla. Kun tämä asukas(talonsa sisäpuolella) esitteli asettaan tähtäämättä ketään, tuli poliisi paikalle ja pidätti.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEvtzkfSQ2s

Demokraattiosavaltioissa kun on tällainen meininki niin Trumpin voitto senkun helpottuu. Tuntuu että vaalistrategia on jotain tyyliin; demokraattijohtajat kusevat omien äänestäjiensä niskaan ja yrittävät väittää että se Trumpin kusta.

EDIT: Tim Poolin juttu samasta tapahtumasta. Lisää detailia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVP_ZfUgwM0


En pidä PS:n laiskuudesta YLE ja raja-asioissa tällä hetkellä. EU-, Eduskunta- ja Kuntavaaleissa on turha odottaa mun ääntä.

Mutta Hallis on puolueen toilailuista huolimatta ollut uskollinen asialle. Siksi ääni on 5!

zupi

Quote from: Ajattara on 16.09.2020, 08:17:57
Nyt jotkut tahot pyrkivät kiertämään tuota CRT-kieltoa julistamalla rasisimin "kansanterveydelliseksi hätätilaksi" (public health crisis).

(...)

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Valli

Minneapolis muutama kuukausi sitten.

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Minneapolis nyt. Missä ovat poliisit?

QuoteWith violent crime on the rise in Mpls., City Council asks: Where are the police?

The meeting was slated as a Minneapolis City Council study session on police reform.

But for much of the two-hour meeting, council members told police Chief Medaria Arradondo that their constituents are seeing and hearing street racing which sometimes results in crashes, brazen daylight carjackings, robberies, assaults and shootings. And they asked Arradondo what the department is doing about it.

"Residents are asking, 'Where are the police'?" said Jamal Osman, newly elected council member of Ward 6.  He said he's already been inundated with complaints from residents that calls for police aren't being answered.

"That is the only public safety option they have at the moment. MPD. They rely on MPD. And they are saying they are nowhere to be seen," Osman said.

Just months after leading an effort that would have defunded the police department, City Council members at Tuesday's work session pushed chief Medaria Arradondo to tell them how the department is responding to the violence. 

The number of reported violent crimes, like assaults, robberies and homicides are up compared to 2019, according to MPD crime data. More people have been killed in the city in the first nine months of 2020 than were slain in all of last year. Property crimes, like burglaries and auto thefts, are also up. Incidents of arson have increased 55 percent over the total at this point in 2019.

For his part, Arradondo told council members that the department has instituted several measures, including adding more officers to patrol and investigative duties and cracking down on robberies.

But council members told Arradondo that residents are hearing a different message from officers.

Council President Lisa Bender, who was among those leading the call to overhaul the department, suggested that officers were being defiant. Her constituents say officers on the street have admitted that they're purposely not arresting people who are committing crimes.

"This is not new," Bender said. "But it is very concerning in the current context."

Arradondo told Bender this was "troubling to hear," and that he would raise that issue with commanders and the heads of each precinct.

"We need to make sure that our communities know that we are going to be there," said Arradondo. "That we're going to be responsive. We've taken an oath to do that."

Other council members said officers are telling residents that they are overworked and understaffed.

Arradondo said around 100 officers have left the department or have taken leave since the beginning of 2020. That's more than double the usual number of officers who either step down from the department or who are inactive each year.

Council members in wards which usually don't see high levels of violence say their constituents are feeling "terrorized."

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https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/09/15/with-violent-crime-on-the-rise-in-mpls-city-council-asks-where-are-the-police

Ensin v*ttuillaan poliisille avoimesti ja sitten ihmetellään kun rikollisuus nousee. Aikamoista Pahkasikaa. :facepalm:

ikuturso

Quote from: vihapuhegeneraattori on 16.09.2020, 16:49:13
BLM roskasakki meni pistään bileet pystyyn jonkun Trumpin kannattajan talolla. Kun tämä asukas(talonsa sisäpuolella) esitteli asettaan tähtäämättä ketään, tuli poliisi paikalle ja pidätti.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEvtzkfSQ2s

Katselin tuon videon.

Voihan jopa olla niin, että poliisi tuli taloon ja kertoi miehelle, että vievät tämän turvaan, niin säästyy omaisuus ja henki. Voi olla, että mies lähti mielellään. Ainakin minä olisin lähtenyt.

Tai sitten poliisi on BLM paineen alla ja mieheltä lähtee aseet ja tulee vähän sakkoa ja muutakin. Jos näin, niin sitten tuolla on peli menetetty. Lopullisesti.

Nyt ei parane ennustaa tankkeja kadulle, koska joku ääliö taas luulee ennustajan sitä toivovan tai ehdottavan.

-i-
Kun joku lausuu sanat, "tässä ei ole mitään laitonta", on asia ilmeisesti moraalitonta. - J.Sakari Hankamäki -
Maailmassa on tällä hetkellä virhe, joka toivottavasti joskus korjaantuu. - Jussi Halla-aho -
Mihin maailma menisi, jos kaikki ne asiat olisivat kiellettyjä, joista joku pahoittaa mielensä? -Elina Bonelius-

n.n.

Quote from: Valli on 17.09.2020, 07:29:07
Ensin v*ttuillaan poliisille avoimesti ja sitten ihmetellään kun rikollisuus nousee. Aikamoista Pahkasikaa. :facepalm:
Sitten kun poliisipäällikkö itse on vakaasti sitä mieltä, että oma laitos on rasismipesä ja sellaisena lähes laiton, joka pitää puhdistaa samoilla menetelmillä kuin Augeiaan tallit (ei sen kuitenkaan purkaa pois - siinähän menisi oma virka) ja irtisanoa poliiseja ilmoitusmenettelyllä ja reaaliaikaista dataa seuraamalla. Se, mitä jälkimmäinen tarkoittaa onkin mielenkiintoinen kysymys.

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2020/06/10/chief-arradondo-announces-immediate-withdrawal-from-contract-with-police-union/
QuoteAlong with announcing the withdrawal from negotiations with the union, Arradondo outlined another plan for reform within the department: using real-time data to alert supervisors to problematic behavior by individual officers so that police leaders can quickly intervene. He wants to address critical incident protocol, use of force, the role of supervisors and the discipline process.

"We will have a police department that our communities view as legitimate, trusting and working with their best interests at heart," he said.

The chief also addressed the connection between race and policing.

"We will never evolve in this profession if we do not address [race] head-on," Arradondo said. "Communities of color have paid the heaviest of costs, and that is with their lives."

Arradondo, who grew up in Minneapolis and became its first black police chief in 2017, said that when he was child he looked up to the few black men and women then in uniform. He said that since joining the force, he's dedicated his efforts to service and healing. At one time, he and four other black officers successfully sued the department for discrimination in pay, promotions and discipline.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/minneapolis-police-chief-bristles-at-call-to-defund-department-says-he-will-not-abandon-residents
QuoteMinneapolis' left-leaning City Council members on Sunday announced a veto-proof push to disband the Minneapolis Police Department, despite objections from the mayor.

Meanwhile, Arradondo announced that the Minneapolis Police Department is withdrawing from union contract negotiations, in one of the first steps of reform to the agency in the wake of George Floyd's death in Minneapolis police custody last month.

Arradondo explained that he wants to eliminate third parties in the process of terminating officers who have been proven to have committed misconduct, while noting that "there is nothing more debilitating from an employment matter perspective than when you have grounds to terminate an employee for his conduct" but are prevented due to a third party presence, referring to the police union.
"Jos olet aina ollut sitä mieltä, että sääntöjen tulee kohdella kaikkia samalla tavalla ja kaikkia tulisi arvioida samoilla kriteereillä, sinua olisi pidetty 60 vuotta sitten radikaalina, 30 vuotta sitten liberaalina, mutta tänä päivänä rasistina." -Thomas Sowell

Bwana

Quote from: nollatoleranssi on 14.09.2020, 21:30:33
Hyvin nuorelta tai lyhytkasvuiselta näyttää. Tälläiset teot tulevat joka tapauksessa yleistymään tuolla.

Vaikka valtamediat ympäri maailmaa, kuten Suomessa eivät uutisoi mitään näistä niin ei se tarkoita, etteikö vastaavaa tapahtuisi. Samoin jokainen tietää syyt sille miksi näitä tapahtuu.

Compton... Katsoin videon ja ensimmäisenä tuli mieleen Joseph Kony ja muut afrikan lapsisotilas-mahdit. Jengin hangaround kakaralle on luvattu että saa roikkua mukana jos...
Nkosi sikelel' Afrika.

Lalli IsoTalo

Googlasin oliko tämä jo keksitty, ja olihan se. Tällaisia t-paitoja voisi myydä torilla - ostajia olisi varmaan molemmista leireistä.
— Monikulttuuri = Kulttuurien sota
— Pakkomamutus = Kansanmurha
— Valtionvelka = Lapsen velkaorjuus
— Ei omaisuutta = Systeemin orja
— Digital ID = Systeemin orja
— Vihreä siirtymä = Kallis luontotuho
— Hiilineutraalius = VHM:n kuristus
— DEI, woke, SDP = Tasa-arvon tuho
— Valkoinen =  Rotusyyllinen
— Missä N, siellä R

ikuturso

Räikkönen on vähän kuittaillut Hamiltonille...

Veikkaan, että tämä ei jää tähän. Polvistumisia pyydetään.

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-i-
Kun joku lausuu sanat, "tässä ei ole mitään laitonta", on asia ilmeisesti moraalitonta. - J.Sakari Hankamäki -
Maailmassa on tällä hetkellä virhe, joka toivottavasti joskus korjaantuu. - Jussi Halla-aho -
Mihin maailma menisi, jos kaikki ne asiat olisivat kiellettyjä, joista joku pahoittaa mielensä? -Elina Bonelius-

zupi

Quote from: Valli on 17.09.2020, 07:29:07
Minneapolis muutama kuukausi sitten.

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Minneapolis nyt. Missä ovat poliisit?

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Ensin v*ttuillaan poliisille avoimesti ja sitten ihmetellään kun rikollisuus nousee. Aikamoista Pahkasikaa. :facepalm:

Minneapoliksen historia on aikamoista pahkasikaa jo vähän pidemmältä ajalta...

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/06/minneapolis-disaster-has-democrat-fingerprints-all-daniel-greenfield/

QuoteDespite these false claims by Democrat politicians, the riots were and are purely a Democrat product.

The Democrats chose to support Black Lives Matter and to coddle Antifa. Minnesota's Attorney General Keith Ellison had previously posed with a copy of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, touting it as "the book that strike fear in the heart of" Trump. Now Ellison has been tweeting conspiracy theories that blame the riots on "white supremecists". But, the only white supremacists on the scene are Democrats.

Minneapolis' last Republican mayor stepped down in 1974. While his city burned, Mayor Jacob Frey, a Biden supporter, attacked President Trump, whining, "weakness is refusing to take responsibility for your own actions, weakness is pointing your finger at someone else in a time of crisis."

That's exactly what Frey and the Democrats have been doing in the face of the riots. Frey, a former community organizer, had repeatedly tweeted support for the Black Lives Matter racist hate group that is carrying out much of the violence. Instead of taking responsibility, Frey is blaming President Trump.

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Arradondo, like Harteau, came into office promising transformational change. He had already sued the city for racial discrimination, winning a huge settlement, and had all the right buzzwords about diversity and equity.

"I'm committed to making sure that when the history is written, we are on the right side of history," he declared at his first press conference, echoing Obama.

That's the police force on whose watch the Floyd riots began.

This national nightmare came out of a deeply progressive city, under the administration of progressives, and happened under elected Democrat officials who embodied the progressive vision for America.

George Floyd and the resulting riots are entirely the work of their hands.

"Why is the man who killed George Floyd not in jail?" Mayor Frey demanded. "We cannot turn a blind eye, it is on us as leaders to see this for what it is and call it what it is."

It's an odd question for the mayor of the city to ask.

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Chauvin, has had a dozen conduct complaints filed against him, and was hit with a letter of reprimand, and all of this was going on while Chief Janee Harteau had built the most diverse team to head the Minneapolis Police (...)

While the Minneapolis Police bosses were touting their progressive values to their DFL overlords, Freeman was talking about criminal justice reform, and Klobuchar was prepping a presidential bid, Chavin kept racking up complaints and no one was paying attention. Not even the head of the force, who had come up through internal affairs, but wasn't actually interested in running the police force.

Democrats had mismanaged the Minneapolis Police, the same way that they had mismanaged Minneapolis. Every time something happened, the leadership got a shakeup and became more diverse, but nothing meaningful was actually happening on the ground floor except new messaging.

Klobuchar and Freeman had seen the Hennepin County Attorney's Office as a stepping stone to higher office. And they spent their time virtue signaling to lefties, instead of actually doing their jobs.

The diverse leadership of the Minneapolis Police understood that they were there to provide cover after each incident, even at the cost of their jobs, for incompetent DFL figures like Mayor Jacob Frey. No one bothered with the nitty gritty attention to detail that's the essence of managing any institution. Everyone was too busy laying out grand progressive visions and looking for the next step up the ladder.

And now America is on fire and they're blaming President Trump for creating the atmosphere.

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The Democrats created the atmosphere. They spilled the gasoline, lit the match, and are still too busy signaling their virtues and blaming Republicans, to do the hard work of putting out their own flames.

Black Lives Matter and Antifa are their organizations. The Minneapolis city authorities and the police force bosses are also their people. The atmosphere was the undiluted work of the Democrats. And with the pandemic fading, they dug into their old playbook and decided that it was time for a new crisis.

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zupi

Rufon kirjoitus NY Postissa.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/federal-agencies-still-pushing-insane-critical-race-theory/

QuoteEven after Trump ordered an end, federal agencies still push insane 'critical race theory'

QuotePresident Trump is taking on the odious ideology known as critical race theory, or CRT. Kudos. But the right must prepare for a long war.

QuoteThese trainings, based on neo-Marxist notions, treat "whiteness" as a moral blight and malign all members of that racial group as complicit in oppression. Universities, corporations, churches and nonprofit organizations across the country have adopted them.

The ideology and racial narrative that underly these programs pose a grave threat to the ideal of colorblind justice under the law enshrined in our constitutional system. If CRT's charges against America were true, then the vicious violence of antifa and Black Lives Matter protests would be justified.

In fact, the charges are slanderous. Yet conservative leaders have largely failed to recognize the severity of the problem. Many on the right have been slow to oppose the demands of groups such as BLM, either out of fear of being labeled racist or because they don't understanding the ideological agenda of these groups.

QuoteIt is imperative that conservatives properly understand the core premise of CRT: The neo-Marxist left now treats members of alleged oppressor groups (whites, males, Christians, Jews, conservatives, etc.) as inherently guilty by virtue of their group membership; conversely, members of alleged victim groups are considered as necessarily morally innocent by virtue of their victim status.

By this "logic," claims of victimization must be believed — and members of oppressive groups are prejudged guilty by virtue of their group membership (recall the calls to "believe all women" in the Brett Kavanaugh hearing). Due process, fair play, treating individuals as individuals — all these bedrock American principles are stumbling blocks on the road to a new, radically different country. Stumbling blocks to be demolished.

There is a direct line from the CRT trainings in government, corporations and universities to the recent unrest on the streets.  (...)

QuoteTrump and other GOP leaders urgently needs to inform their base — and the nation — about what is actually at stake. To do so, they must identify, expose and critique the ideology that animates broad swaths of our elites — and the Democratic Party. As long as leftist advocates accuse others of racism, without having their own premises and the basis of these accusations subjected to scrutiny, they will continue to place the rest of us on the defensive.

QuoteThe president and other GOP leaders must make this case insistently — now — while there is still a chance. (...)

Eihän tuossa Hommalaisille sinänsä mitään uutta ole, mutta alkoi tässä taas funtsimaan, miten pahaksi tilanne on riistäytynyt täällä Suomessa. Kaikki, ketkä vähänkin pyrkivät "laajemmalla jakelulla" kritisoimaan kaikkia noita uus-marxismiin pohjautuvia so(n)ta-aatteita, leimataan rasisteiksi ja vihapuhujiksi. Täällä kun meillä niitä väkivaltaisia äärioikeistolaisia lymyilee joka perkeleen kulman takana...  :facepalm: Ja kaikki, ketkä puhuvat niiden puolesta, ovat automaattisesti niitä kuuluisia hyviä ihmisiä. Jopa faktojen kertominen on täällä nykyisin kiihottamisrikos! Ja se luotettava media ( :facepalm:) on 80-90 prosenttisesti kyllästetty noilla marxisteilla, ei kannata todellakaan pidätellä hengitystä odotellessa valtamedian juttuja uus-marxismista tai sen kysymyksiä/haastoja Kiiluvasilmälle intersektionaalisuuden tausta-ajatuksista ja tavoitteista. Ainoa media, joka on tuonut näitä selkeästi esiin, on (tietenkin) Suomen Uutiset, mutta siellähän kaikki onkin niitä vihapuhuvia rassisteja, vieläpä luultavasti väkivaltaisia  :o. Kokkarit ja kepulaiset ovat nykyisin täysin näiden marxistien pikku puudeleita, itse asiassa luultavasti heitä riittää jo aika monia sielläkin.

Oikeastaan tämän Suomen tilanteen vuoksi nykyisin tuleekin aika suurella mielenkiinnolla seurattua tapahtumia rapakon takana. Kun alkaa tuntua siltä, että USA on melkeinpä ainoa paikka, missä tuo sontamyrsky on vielä mahdollista estää, ja joka voi vaikuttaa asioiden kehittymiseen myös täällä Suomessa.

Viimeisin juttu intersektionaalisuudesta Suomen Uutisissa oli muuten tänään, tällä kertaa siitä, miten vihavasurit vääristelevät historiaa:

https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/riehaantuneet-intersektionaali-aktivistit-vaaristelevat-tarkoituksella-historiaa-churchillin-kaltaisia-suuria-hahmoja-yritetaan-muuttaa-tyranneiksi/

QuoteEsimerkiksi brittien kansallinen historia laajassa kontekstissaan pelkistetään Kiszelyn mukaan vihamieliseksi alustaksi, jota vasten vähemmistöt voivat loistaa. Winston Churchillin kaltaiset suuret historialliset hahmot saavat enää merkityksen lähinnä silloin, kun aiheena on tarkastella etuoikeuksia ja ennakkoluuloja. Muussa tapauksessa heille ei nähdä merkittävää roolia, esimerkiksi kansallisina sankareina.

Kiszely pitää tätä historian väärinymmärtämisenä: "Jos vallankäytöstä tulee ainut mekanismi, jonka kautta tulkitsemme historiaa, yksioikoinen jaottelu uhreihin ja sortajiin alkaa puolestaan tyrannisoida meitä."

Hän muistuttaa, että se, mikä koetaan tänään hyväksyttäväksi, voidaan yhtä hyvin nähdä huomenna jo vihamielisenä. Esimerkiksi tähän asti harmittomina ja normaaleina pidetyt valkoihoiset Jeesus-hahmot saattavat hänen mukaansa kadota jo heti seuraavalla viikon hysteerisen raivon myötä.

Jos George Floydin kuolemasta olisi pitänyt seurata jotain, Kiszelyn mielestä yhteiskunnassa olisi pitänyt etsiä entistä enemmän yhdistäviä asioita. Sen sijaan ihmiset ovat poteroituneet ja lietsoneet hajottavia voimia. Yhteiskunnan pirstaloitumisen kauaskantoiset seuraukset on myös sivuutettu.

"Tämä kaikki johtaa kysymykseen: miten voisimme merkityksellisesti edes määritellä pronominin "me", joka yhdistäisi meitä kansallisvaltion kansalaisina? Niille, joita kiinnostaa löytää vastaus tähän arvoitukseen, piilee historiassamme. Joskus se oli tarina hyveistä (me luovuimme lopulta orjuudesta), mutta pienemmälle vähemmistölle historia näyttäytyy paheellisena tarinana."

Kiszelyn mielestä on valheellista väittää, että esimerkiksi Britannian historia olisi törkeän rasistinen, ja että sitä tulisi yksiselitteisesti hävetä, "tai että systemaattinen rasismi määrittäisi jokaista organisaatiota, instituutiota ja jokaista julkista elintä. Mutta se näyttää olevan tämän päivän lähtökohta."

Yksi aikaisempi erinomainen juttu esim tuolla: https://www.suomenuutiset.fi/hallitus-lupaa-intersektionaalista-tasa-arvoa-mutta-luvassa-onkin-marxismia-ja-se-antaa-aktivisteille-avoimen-valtakirjan-esittaa-faktana-lahes-mita-tahansa/

Jos esim. tuosta rassismista on ihan pakko hössöttää, niin siihen olisi myös muita tapoja kuin nykyisin laajasti käytetyt so(n)ta-aatteet, esim. tämä:

https://theoryofenchantment.com/

QuoteLooking for an antiracism program that actually fights bigotry instead of spreading it? You've come to the right place. We teach love and compassion. Let us train your team.
(korjaisivat kuitenkin tuon "antiracism" termin "non-racism" termillä, marxilaiset ovat jo omineet ensiksi mainitun)

Mutta eihän tuollainen kiinnosta ketään, vihavasurit janoaa verta ja vallankumousta. Puhumattakaan nyt siitä, että valtaosassa tapauksista tuo rassismi on täysin keksittyä.

nollatoleranssi

Edelleen ihmetyttää miten valtava tabu-aihe nämä BLM-väkivaltaisuudet ovat valtamediassa ja kaikilla poliittisilla tahoilla. Aivan kuin olisi yhteinen päätös, että tietyistä asioista ei saa uutisoida.

Koetaanko asioiden liittyvän niin vahvasti USAn presidenttipeliin, että BurnLootMurder-ryhmää ei saa millään tavalla kritisoida vai toimitaanko vain aatteellisella arvopohjalla?
Kriitikon varjo -blogi
http://kriitikonvarjo.blogspot.fi/

Urban Moving Systems

QuoteBLM Riots Are Officially the Most Costly Manmade Damage to American Property in History

The domestic terrorists in Antifa and Black Lives Matter have accomplished one thing: the most costly riots in the history of our country, reports the far-left Axios.

Property Claim Services, a company that tracks insurance claims filed due to riots and the like, found that the left-wing riots that occurred between May 26 and June 8 of this year could reach $2 billion in insurance claims.

Obviously, because the left's domestic terrorism extended well beyond June 8 and is still ongoing, the company acknowledges "this is still happening, so the losses could be significantly more."

Most importantly, these estimates are all being compared based on 2020 dollars. Meaning, previous riots, like the 1992 Rodney King Riots in Los Angeles, cost $775 million in 1992 dollars. That adds up to $1.42 billion today, which is still lower than the $2 billion Black Lives Matter Riots estimate — which again only covers eight or nine days of rioting that has never really stopped.

Here's a piece of perspective that shocked even me...

If you add up the insurance cost in 2020 dollars for all six major American riots during the turbulent 1960s, the total is a little shy of $1.2 billion — which means the terrorists in Antifa and Black Lives Matter caused more mayhem and property damage in a little over a week than this country saw throughout all of the 1960s.

To the surprise of no one, Axios still uses the term "mostly peaceful" to describe what's happening.
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Another thing to keep in mind is that these estimates are based only on insurance claims, so near the bottom of the piece, we're told: "U.S. companies have learned the hard way that their insurance doesn't cover business interruption related to the coronavirus, most policies emphatically do cover riot-related losses."

In other words, that astronomical number isn't estimating total damage, just the damage that's insured. So while the number is not helpful in estimating the total damage, it is still a good apples-to-apples comparison with past riots, since all the calculations are based on insurance claims.

If Trump wins re-election in November, you ain't seen nothing yet. The rioting and terrorism will be off the charts.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/16/nolte-blm-riots-are-officially-the-most-costly-manmade-damage-to-american-property-in-history/

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zupi

Nyt on Trump asian ytimessä!

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Edit. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/17/constitution-day-donald-trump-announces-1776-commission-to-fight-left-wing-indoctrination/

QuotePresident Donald Trump on Thursday announced the creation of a "1776 Commission" to fight the growth of far-left revisionist history such as the 1619 Project.

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The "1776 Commission" will promote patriotic education in America's schools and oppose reductionist partisan historical narratives.

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"Whether it is the mob on the street or the cancel culture in the board room, the goal is the same," Trump said. "To silence dissent, to scare you out of speaking the truth and to bully Americans into abandoning their values, their heritage, and their very way of life."

He specifically called out critical race theory as "a Marxist doctrine that America is a wicked and racist nation" which holds that concepts such as hard work, rational thinking, the nuclear family, and believing in God are mere "aspects of whiteness."

"We embrace the vision of Martin Luther King, where children are not judged by the color of their skin but of the content of their character," he said, adding that the left wants to create "a new segregation" by viewing everything through the lens of race.

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"Critical Race Theory, the 1619 Project, and the crusade against American history is toxic propaganda — ideological poison that, if not removed, will dissolve the civic bonds that tie us together," he said.

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"The left-wing rioting and mayhem are the direct result of decades of left-wing indoctrination in our schools," Trump said.

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"We are here today to declare that we will never submit to tyranny, we will reclaim our history and our country for citizens of every race color religion and creed," he said.

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