2015-06-26 YHDISTETTY: Terrori-isku Tunisiassa

[rähmis]

"Muslimit muodostivat ihmiskilven suojellakseen turisteja Tunisian iskussa
Tunisian perjantain ranta-iskusta selvinneet brittituristit ylistävät paikallisia, jotka muodostivat ihmiskilven suojellakseen turisteja."
http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/a1435549612839

Näin alas en kuvittellut edes Hesarin pystyvän vajoamaan.

[Veturinainen]

"Muslimit muodostivat ihmiskilven suojellakseen turisteja Tunisian iskussa
Tunisian perjantain ranta-iskusta selvinneet brittituristit ylistävät paikallisia, jotka muodostivat ihmiskilven suojellakseen turisteja."
http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/a1435549612839

Näin alas en kuvittellut edes Hesarin pystyvän vajoamaan.

Hesari itse asiassa myöntää, että iskussa on kyse uskonnosta: ampuja ei halunnut tappaa muslimeja vaan oli uskonnollisrasistisin aikein liikkeellä.

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Muslimit muodostivat ihmiskilven suojellakseen turisteja Tunisian iskussa

Mikä otsikko, nyt mennään jo todella syvissä vesissä suvis-journalismin valtameressä. Naurettavaa valkopesua.

[rähmis]

Kommentointiosiossa aletaan pääsemään asian ytimeen.

" - - Olisivatkohan hommafoorumilaiset puolestaan suojelleet muslimeja ihmiskilpinä, jos joku breivik olisi päättänyt aloittaa joukkomurhan islaminuskoisia vastaan - - "

Eivät, sillä heidän joukostaan löytyy runsaasti Breivikin ymmärtäjiä. He katsovat, että tuo valkoisen heteron (?) suorittama teko johtui liiallisesta suvaitsevuudesta.

[Roope]

- - Olisivatkohan hommafoorumilaiset puolestaan suojelleet muslimeja ihmiskilpinä, jos joku breivik olisi päättänyt aloittaa joukkomurhan islaminuskoisia vastaan - - "

Edes Breivik ei joukkomurhannut islaminuskoisia. Muistaako joku viime vuosilta muslimeja vastaavalla tavalla joukkomurhanneita, jotka eivät ole muslimeja?

[Veikko]

- - Olisivatkohan hommafoorumilaiset puolestaan suojelleet muslimeja ihmiskilpinä, jos joku breivik olisi päättänyt aloittaa joukkomurhan islaminuskoisia vastaan - - "

Edes Breivik ei joukkomurhannut islaminuskoisia. Muistaako joku viime vuosilta muslimeja vastaavalla tavalla joukkomurhanneita, jotka eivät ole muslimeja?

Jos tuota "ihmiskilpi"-juttua edes todella tapahtui, mikä on melkoisen epäilyttävää, niin kyllä, aivan huokeasti. Jos, nimittäin, tuo Breivik kuuluisi samaan seurakuntaan kuin minä ja olen varma siitä, että hän ei tuohon seurakuntaan kuuluvia ammu. Niitä muita vain.

[MustaLeski]

Report warned over Tunisia beach hotels security months before Sousse attack

Security at beach hotels in the Tunisian resort of Sousse was criticised in a report produced for the British Government months before 38 people were killed in a terrorist attack there, an inquest has heard.

The January 2015 "recce" of hotels included the five-star Riu Imperial Marhaba where extremist Seifeddine Rezgui massacred tourists - including 30 Britons and three Irish citizens - the following June.

The inquests into the deaths of the British victims heard that the report questioned the security at the beach entrances to some 30 hotels in three Mediterranean resorts.

Rezgui killed around 10 of his victims on the beach and then entered the upmarket hotel from the entrance on the sand.

The resort had previously been targeted by a suicide bomber in October 2013, who killed only himself, the inquest heard.

Andrew Ritchie QC, who represents 20 victims' families, read extracts from the heavily redacted report to the hearing at the Royal Courts of Justice in London.

He said: "Given that the attack on the Riadh Palms Hotel in October 2013 was launched from the beach, particular attention was paid to the beach access points.

"It (the report) said 'Despite some good security infrastructure around the hotels and resorts there seems to be little in the way of effective security to prevent or respond to an attack (from the beach)'."

Mr Ritchie told the inquest the Government was aware that Islamic State-linked extremists had warned the terror group would target tourists in a video posted on YouTube in December 2014.

The inquests have previously heard that official guidance for tourists to Tunisia said there was a "high risk of terrorism" at the time of the Sousse attack.

This had not been updated to the highest level of advising against all travel despite a previous terror attack on the Bardo Museum in Tunis in March 2015 that killed 24 people, including 20 tourists.

The January report on the hotel security was carried out by an unnamed man who was in Mumbai in India at the time of the terrorist attack there in 2008, the inquest heard.

A counter-terrorism assessment for the FCO days after June's bloodshed in Tunisia also questioned the security at the beach resorts.

The review by the Tunisian Security Assessment Team (TSAT) found "facilities security at the hotels to be generally of a low standard" although "some hotels had better security".

Jane Marriott, a director of the Foreign Office's Middle East North Africa Directorate at the time of the attacks on the Bardo Museum and in Sousse, told the hearing that because, prior to the 2010 revolution, Tunisia had been a dictatorship, there was "little public desire for a more intrusive police presence".

She added: "This made it difficult for the authorities to be proactive with security."

A Briton who survived the attack had been assured it was "100% safe" to go to Sousse by a travel agent when he booked, weeks after an earlier deadly attack on tourists in the country's capital, Mr Ritchie told the inquest.

Paul Thomson booked a stay in the Mediterranean resort after being told the Bardo attack in Tunis was a "one-off", the lawyer said.

He made the claim while cross-examining Ms Marriott on the travel advice for tourists in Tunisia at the time.

He asked about a "partnership agreement" between the Government and travel firms which required the companies to guide customers to official travel advice on the FCO website, including a section called Know Before You Go.

He said Mr Thompson had gone to a TUI shop in his home town of Ilkeston, Derbyshire, in May 2015 with his daughter.

She had read about the attack on the Bardo Museum in Tunis and asked staff in the shop "Is it safe?", Mr Ritchie said.

He went on: "(They were told) 'It's 100% safe, this is a one-off'.

"Would you be comfortable with that as fulfilling the agreement?"

Ms Marriott, a former UK ambassador to Yemen, replied: "We would expect this (travel) information to be flagged up."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/report-warned-over-tunisia-beach-hotels-security-months-before-sousse-attack-35374207.html

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Jihad Watch julkaisi uutisen, jonka mukaan Tunisiassa turvallisuusjoukot viivyttelivät tahallaan.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/01/tunisia-security-forces-deliberately-delayed-arrival-at-site-of-beach-jihad-massacre
Tunisia: Security forces deliberately delayed arrival at site of beach jihad massacre
JANUARY 16, 2017 11:37 AM BY ROBERT SPENCER
"Units that should have intervened in the events deliberately and unjustifiably slowed down to delay their arrival at the hotel. They had the ability to put an end to the attack before the police arrived but wasted a considerable amount of time in getting to the hotel."

[Skeptikko]

Jihad Watch julkaisi uutisen, jonka mukaan Tunisiassa turvallisuusjoukot viivyttelivät tahallaan.

Brittituomari syyttää tunisialais­poliiseja pelkureiksi – ampuja ehti surmata kymmeniä
http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005107862.html

Jaksamatta perehtyä itse tapauksen yksityiskohtiin, olisi mielenkiintoista tietää missä määrin näissä väitteissä on totuutta. Esimerkiksi millainen on näiden turvallisuusjoukkojen ja poliisin varustelutaso niin suojavarusteiden kuin aseistuksen osalta - ja millaiset olivat tapauksen yksityiskohdat.

Jos kyse on siitä, että suhteellisen avoimessa maastossa rannalla tms terroristi ammuskelee turisteja rynnäkkökiväärillä, niin minusta ei ole kovin yllättävää, jos esimerkiksi pelkällä pistoolilla varustautuneet joukot eivät ole erityisen kiinnostuneita menemään tapattamaan itseään sinne joidenkin ventovieraiden ihmisten puolustamiseksi.

PS:

2015 Sousse attacks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Sousse_attacks

At around noon, Seifeddine Rezgui Yacoubi, disguised as a tourist,[19] socialised with others, and then took out a Kalashnikov assault rifle concealed in a beach umbrella and fired at the tourists on the beach. He entered the hotel, shooting at people he came across.[17] He was killed by security forces during an exchange of fire.[17][20][21] All bullets were found to have been fired from the one weapon; the attacker had four magazines of ammunition.[22][23] The attacker had spoken to his father on a mobile telephone which he then threw into the sea just before the attack; it was retrieved.[23]

Tunisia attack: British lives could have been saved
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38630124

A lone armed guard was on the beach when Rezgui opened fire. The gunman also threw a grenade and left the guard "seemingly unconscious".

A second armed guard on duty was patrolling the nearby sea in a speedboat. He attempted to shoot Rezgui but could not work his gun.
Nearby security forces "had an ability to put an end to the attack" before the police arrived, Ms Leek said, but they "deliberately and unjustifiably slowed down to delay their arrival at the hotel".

Meanwhile, witnesses telling of the man with the gun in the speedboat may have led to confusion over how many attackers there were, she added.

[Alaric]

Nyt Soussen sekä pääkaupunki Tunisin vuoden 2015 iskuista (rantakohde ja kansallismuseo), joissa kuoli paljon mm. brittituristeja, on annettu tuomioita.

Neljä jihadistimusulmaania sai elinkautiset vankeusrangaistukset Soussen iskusta. Viisi muuta sai 6 kk - 6 v vankeusrangaistuksia. 17 vapautettiin syytteistä.

Tunisin museoiskusta annettiin elinkautiset kolmelle ja muille 1 - 16 vuoden vankeusrangaistuksia. Reilu kymmenen vapautettiin syytteistä.

ISIS otti vastuun molemmista iskuista.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/02/09/seven-jihadists-sentenced-2015-beach-massacre/ (9.2.2019)

Seven Jihadists Sentenced over 2015 Beach Massacre

A Tunisian court has sentenced seven jihadists to life in prison over attacks at a museum and on a beach in 2015 that killed 60 people, many of them British tourists, prosecutors said on Saturday.

Dozens of defendants faced two separate trials over the closely linked shootings, which occurred just months apart in Tunis and Sousse, but many were acquitted.

Four were sentenced to life in prison for the shooting rampage at a Sousse tourist resort in June 2015, which killed 38 people, mostly British tourists.

Five other defendants in the Sousse case were handed jail terms ranging from six months to six years, while 17 were acquitted, prosecution spokesman Sofiene Sliti said.

Three were given life sentences for the earlier attack in March 2015 at the capital's Bardo National Museum, in which two gunmen killed 21 foreign tourists and a Tunisian security guard.

Others found guilty of links to the Bardo attack were sentenced to prison terms ranging from one to 16 years, and a dozen defendants were acquitted, Sliti said.

The prosecution will launch an appeal, he added.

The court heard that the two attacks, both claimed by the Islamic State group (IS), were closely linked.

Several defendants pointed to the fugitive Chamseddine Sandi as mastermind of both.

According to Tunisian media, Sandi was killed in a US air strike in neighbouring Libya in February 2016, although there has been no confirmation.

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