Minusta Ylen olisi jo aika raportoida toisesta todella vakavasta ongelmasta joka esiintyy Ranskassa ja missä jotkut muslimit ovat myös päärooleissa, tosin aivan toisenlaisista syistä:
Islamisaatio Ranskan kouluissa vaatii nyt toimenpiteitä,
ja paljon resursseja:
QuoteFrance's integration model: Problems in schools 'nothing new'
France is undergoing a period of soul-searching after the Paris terror attacks. The main sore point is the depressing fact that both the Charlie Hebdo attackers and the Jewish supermarket gunman were born and bred in France. But there were also worried reactions after some French schoolchildren did not respect a minute's silence for the victims of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, or answered back to teachers that it was "not right" to draw cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, like the satirical weekly's journalists had done.
The past few days have seen a series of announcements on shoring up French "Republican values" (read: secular principles) in schools. On Wednesday, President François Hollande announced better training for teachers, who have often had their work cut out for them explaining concepts like freedom of speech. This Thursday, Education Minister Najat Vallaud-Belkacem announced that a whopping €250 million would be spent over the next three years on measures such as "moral and civic instruction" in schools. (Some would argue that such a need is a side-effect of secularism itself, but that's another debate).
These measures are all to the good, and no doubt necessary. But the underlying problem is not new. It has now emerged that an inspectors' report presented to the education minister back in 2004 raised alarm bells about exactly the same issues. It expressed concern that some pupils in underprivileged areas did not respect a minute's silence for the victims of the 9/11 attacks, or the 2004 Madrid train bombings. According to the report, some pupils felt like foreigners in their own country.
But the report was never made public. Its main author, Jean-Pierre Obin,has spoken out, explaining that after two French journalists were kidnapped in Iraq in August 2004, "the instruction in all the ministries was to remain silent about any problem that could worsen the hostages' situation". But even after the journalists' safe return four months later, the report still remained in a drawer somewhere – a decision that Obin criticises today. "We can no longer put a lid on the issue like we did in 2004", he told France 2 television.
Interestingly, this same report recommended giving teachers better training on secular principles - exactly what François Hollande announced yesterday.
http://carolineclarkson.blogs.france24.com/article/2015/01/22/france-republican-values-charlie-hebdo-schools-problems-not-new omat boldaukset
http://blog.francetvinfo.fr/oeil-20h/2015/01/21/video-laicite-a-lecole-quand-ladministration-tirait-lalarme.html
Koulujen islamisaatiosta kerrottiin siis Obinin raportissa jo vuonna 2004.
Näin:
QuoteQuote from: chacha2 on 30.03.2013, 23:02:10
Ranskan tilanne :
QuoteThe Obin Report (Rapport Obin) submitted to the Minister of Education in 2004 by Jean-Pierre Obin, General Inspector of Education, studied the impact of religious signs and manifestations in French public schools. Its conclusions regarding the spread and impact of Islam on the young and the dangers to national cohesion were so alarming that the report was temporarily shelved. Due to fear.
Fortunately, after a year of silence, the French education ministry finally found the courage to publish the report on the internet. As a result, we can now read the original PDF file on the official site of the French education ministry, in French and, using Google translate, in any other language, including English.
Anyone wanting to understand the mechanisms of what has been called the "Islamisation" of the young in French public schools should read this report.
It is especially relevant in the wake of the Toulouse massacres of Jewish children and French soldiers perpetrated in the name of Islam by the 24-year-old Frenchman of Algerian origin Merah.
http://www.laurelzuckerman.com/2012/04/france-the-obin-report-on-religious-signs-and-manifestations-in-french-schools.html
Raportista:QuoteThe 37-page report is the product of a study carried out between October 2003 and May 2004 by a team of 10 inspectors, including Obin. In addition to examining the recent literature on religion and schools in France, they visited 61 academic and vocational high schools in 24 départements, chosen not as a cross-section of public schools, but rather as schools typical of those where religious expression has become a problem because of the high concentration of ethnic and religious minorities. Many are located in ethnically segregated neighborhoods now often referred to, the report says, "by analogy with the United States, as 'ghettos.'"
In each school, inspectors interviewed the management team, staff, and teachers, as well as lay people from the community, including parents, social workers, and elected officials. In addition, regional education officials were asked to submit accounts of their experiences in primary schools.
Amid much diversity--some of the schools were rural, some urban; some had fairly homogeneous student populations, others immigrants from many different countries--the inspectors report two consistent findings: a marked increase in religious expression, especially Muslim expression, in schools; and denial on the part of officials at all levels--from the classroom, to the principal's office, to the regional administration--that this phenomenon is occurring.
The researchers began by studying the neighborhoods surrounding the schools. Mostly, these were depressed areas abandoned by anyone with a secure income. The report describes the flight of "French" residents and "European" shops--sometimes after they have been the targets of violence--in tandem with the arrival of immigrants and the collapse of real estate values.
Scores of informants told the Obin team that these neighborhoods were undergoing a "rapid and recent swing" toward Islamization, thanks to the growing influence of religious activists. These young men, intense and highly intellectual in their piety, are sometimes former residents of the neighborhood who have been to prison, where they were converted to Islam. More often, however, they are educated men with degrees from universities in France, North Africa, or the Middle East. They have come to be known as "bearded ones" (distinctive beards are a marker of Muslim purists and extremists--think of bin Laden) or "big brothers" (a name evocative of the worldwide jihadist movement's Muslim Brotherhood), and they offer young people a proud identity--Muslim--in place of the dismal identity of unassimilated immigrant.
The biggest social change entailed by this Islamization, Obin reports, is a deterioration in the position of females. Teenage girls are forbidden to play sports and are constantly watched by an informal religious police made up of young men, sometimes their own younger brothers. Makeup, skirts, and form-fitting dresses are forbidden; dark, loose trousers are the strongly recommended attire. To go to the blackboard in front of a class, some Muslim girls put on long coats. Often, they are forced to wear the headscarf, or hijab, and forbidden to frequent coed movie theaters, community centers, and gyms, or even to go out at all on weekends. Lots of young women were afraid to tell the Obin team what punishments are in store for them if they disobey. Not only female students but also female teachers, Muslim and non-Muslim alike, are frequently subjected to sexist remarks by male teenagers.
In primary schools, the report cites instances of first grade boys' refusing to participate in coed activities and Muslim children's refusing to sing, dance, or draw a face. In one school, restrooms were segregated: some for Muslim students and some for "French." Some lunchrooms were segregated, by section or table. Some students required halal meat; at one school, the principal provided only halal meat for everyone.
With Muslim proselytizing on the rise, the report states that students are under pressure to observe Ramadan, the annual month during which Muslims fast during the day. In some high schools, it is simply impossible for Muslim kids not to join in, whether they like it or not. Obin cites one student who tried to commit suicide because of intimidation and threats from other kids over this issue. Obin also emphasizes that many conversions to Islam are taking place under duress.
Inevitably, the report records rampant "Judeophobia," to use the term in vogue in France. Among even the youngest students, the term "Jew" has become the all-purpose insult. Obin deplores the fact that principals and teachers do not strenuously object to this, treating it simply as part of the youth culture. Even more serious is the increase in assaults on Jews or those presumed to be Jewish. Usually the assailants are Muslim students. Sometimes the victims are, too: One Turkish high-school girl was relentlessly harassed and bullied at school because her country is an ally of Israel. The section of the report on anti-Semitism winds up with this sad conclusion: In France today, Jewish kids are not welcome at every school. Many are forced to switch schools or even conceal their identity to escape anti-Semitism.
According to the report, Muslim students perceive a large gap between the French and themselves. Even though most of the Muslim kids are actually French citizens, they see themselves as Muslims first, and more and more of them hail Osama bin Laden as their hero. In their eyes, he represents a victorious Islam triumphing over the West.
FINALLY, THE REPORT DISCUSSES a host of difficulties teachers encounter in dealing with specific subjects in the classroom. Most Muslim kids refuse to participate in sports or swimming, the girls out of modesty, the boys because they do not want to swim in "girls' water" or "non-Muslim water." When it comes to literature, French philosophers such as Voltaire and Rousseau are very often boycotted because of their supposed Islamophobia. Molière, the father of French satiric comedy, is among the writers most often boycotted.
As for history, Muslim students object to its Judeo-Christian bias and blatant falsehood. They loudly protest the Crusades, and commonly deny the Holocaust. Under the circumstances, many teachers censor their own material, often skipping entire topics, like the history of Israel or of Christianity. The report cites one teacher who keeps a Koran on his desk for reference whenever a thorny issue arises. It cites Muslim students who refuse to use the plus sign in mathematics because it looks like a cross. Field trips, especially to churches, cathedrals, and monasteries, are boycotted.
Contrary to conventional wisdom, these pathologies are now present across France. Muslim "ghettos" are found not only in the suburbs of major cities but in towns and villages as well. Obin describes them as islands of counterculture, sealed off and opposed to modern democratic society.
Summing up, Obin explains his disturbing findings as the result primarily of indoctrination orchestrated over years by international Muslim organizations. From an early age, students are taught what to think, what to believe, and to regard their school teachers as liars. The goal of the radical groups seeking to segregate Muslim communities and denouncing integration as oppression, Obin writes, is to take the Muslim residents of France out of the French nation and make them think of themselves as part of the international Muslim community.
In a particularly interesting observation, Obin notes that it is the schools that have reached accommodations with the extremists that are most plagued by violence against girls, Jews, and teachers. Schools that refuse to tolerate the intolerable have coped much better with the problems described in the report. As a result, Obin calls for a policy of no compromise with Islamist demands.
Still unclear is how French educators can be expected to hang tough while their government refuses to own up to the problem--as demonstrated by its failure to make public the Obin report. With the Muslim share of the French population already over 10 percent and growing, the schools are only the tip of the iceberg. [/i]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1401971/posts boldaus oma
omat boldaukset
Hommalla Obinin raportti puhuttiin jo vuonna 2009: http://hommaforum.org/index.php/topic,15054.msg220967.html#msg220967
Nyt Vuonna 2015 Ranskassa vihdoin puhutaan raportin löydöistä ja hallitus aikoo jopa tehdä koulujen islamisaatiolle jotain konkreettista
MUTTA
Yle ei vieläkään näkee aiheelliseski raportoida asiasta.
On se kummallista.
Varmaankin tätä foorumia jos on yhtään katsellut niin ihmeellistä olisikin ollut JOS YLE kertoisi totuuksia. Jättäkäämme siis ihmettely pois, valtamedia ei tule kertomaan sitä. Mitähän sitten tehdään kun Suomessakin alkaa esim juutalaisten sortaminen islamisaation seurauksena? Vasemmisto tietysti sympatioi tiedämme ketä mutta mitenkähän Vihreät & Sosdemit tekevät?
Tää alkaa olla viimeinen taisto ...
Quote from: uffomies on 24.01.2015, 08:01:43
Varmaankin tätä foorumia jos on yhtään katsellut niin ihmeellistä olisikin ollut JOS YLE kertoisi totuuksia. Jättäkäämme siis ihmettely pois, valtamedia ei tule kertomaan sitä. Mitähän sitten tehdään kun Suomessakin alkaa esim juutalaisten sortaminen islamisaation seurauksena? Vasemmisto tietysti sympatioi tiedämme ketä mutta mitenkähän Vihreät & Sosdemit tekevät?
Tää alkaa olla viimeinen taisto ...
Olet asian ytimessä.
Le Pointin aiheeseen liittyvä haastattelu (Google translate käännös).
Islamisaatio Ranskan kouluissa ei ole tapahtunut itsestään.
Ranskan banlieussa ovat tietyt vahvat tahtot ajaneet tätä agendaa tietoisesti jo todella kauan.
Haastattelussa mainitaan Bouzianen imaamia, joka ei todellakaan toiminut minään rakkaususkonnonlähettiläänä vaan ' an Islam of war, political Islam'.
Entisen Venissieuxin pormestari, kommunisti André Gerin huomasi ja puhui näistä ongelmista jo kauan sitten
mutta kuuroille korville sillä aihe ei mielyttänyt vallassa olevia poliitikkoja.
Nyt vihdoin häntä kuunnellaan:
QuoteRadical Islam - André Gerin: "Successive governments have given up fighting evil"
The former deputy mayor of Venissieux is the origin of the law banning the full veil in public places. He deplored 30 years of inaction.
André Gerin , former deputy mayor of Venissieux, a connoisseur of suburbs and emblematic figure of the Communist Party , is not surprised by the terrorist attacks that have struck the France . He explains that he sounds the alarm for years without being heard.
The Point.fr: You denounce years those you call "French Taliban". What do you mean by that?
André Gerin: I had two electric shocks. The first in 2002 when I found myself with two kids Vénissieux locked in Guantánamo. They were integrated youth posed no problems. They were from the same neighborhood. I looked at who was rotting the minds of our kids and there were headends. The second shock is 2005 and three weeks of rioting. I wondered what had happened between drama in the electrical transformer and eight days after the grenade near the mosque. The situation has changed in nature. There were eight hundred municipalities concerned with, in their sights, places the Republic, schools, etc. Alongside these two triggers, I also had echoes of the teachers in colleges, which described me teens who rise to challenge the bio courses, natural science, history, etc.
That's why you went to war against the full veil in 2009?
I have always said that for me, the full veil was the tip of the iceberg. Basically, I wanted to investigate the issue of the full veil in public places, the problem this posed for Muslims, conflicts in social services, civil status, in hospitals. I also wanted to point the finger at the problems faced by girls in some areas of the Paris region and elsewhere. To be exempt from sports to college, they occurred with complacency certificates. It was impossible for girls to go to family planning of their neighborhood.
You have the feeling of being left alone on these topics in recent years?
Politically, yes, but in reality for the six-month mission on the veil, I received some fifty thousand messages, only 5% who insult me, and the rest, mostly women, who support me. When I handed my report to the Assembly, there were thirty foreign television, I made over two hundred interviews, Japan, Pakistan, via England, Canada. It was a geopolitical issue. Yet the problem has not been taken seriously from the political point of view, I regret it. Then we moved on to something else, as is done for thirty years.
For what reasons?
Because there is a sort of paralysis compared to the National Front. There are taboo subjects. Also because of the worldliness of the left, which continues on the side of the PC, Mélenchon, the PS. I still feel that Manuel Valls understood: it does exactly what I said. But we will see later. He will now be PS debate on these issues, it is mandatory.
Where these Islamist attacks do they take root, according to you?
It is a mistake considering that these events are caused as economic and social problems. It is also a cultural war. There really are people who lead a cultural war against the Republic, against a way of life, against what there is best in Western values. The bottom line is there. We remember the Bouziane imam who incited the stoning of women, with an anti-Republic speech, anti-white and anti-France. The speech is a fundamentalist discourse guilt of France, of Europe, of the West.
You denounce anti-French racism?
Of course, and I do not mind saying. We must denounce the anti-Arab racism, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitism. But the anti-white racism, anti-France, is also part of what people live in poor neighborhoods. Neighborhoods that have changed figure in twenty years. Today the French "native" there are almost no more present because it becomes unbearable for them for that reason, but also because there is a new form of banditry, mob rule, which installs it .
Link banditry to the rise of religious fundamentalism?
It is obvious that there is a common takeover of certain territories by drug traffickers, mafias and the fundamentalists. There is a complicity between them for the takeover of the kids. This partly explains the violence against firefighters, police. I now have certainty, these drug trafficking and other are a source of remuneration for the fundamentalists who need money to finance their activities. This is one of the topics that need to be addressed very quickly make war on drugs, with the investigative police.
You denounce the lack of policy responses?
Successive governments have given up fighting evil with the root. We are in a purely logical economist and the issue of security has been neglected. I denounce all the talk about the victimization of Muslims, on the excuse that become unbearable. If we talk about the issue of Islam, if we are not able to say that there is an Islam of peace and an Islam of war, political Islam, we will prepare even more painful tomorrows. We need to encourage dialogue with the Muslim French, but at the same time conducting a merciless battle with all those who are rotting life in our neighborhoods.
What are the solutions to your opinion?
They pass through the school and security. In school, we completely forgot the Obin report in 2004 to François Fillon already denounced a rise of communalism in institutions. The school must become a sanctuary. We must abandon the illusion school doors open, as is done for forty years. It was considered that the problems of the company were also needed in the school. We now need that secularism is fully respected, there is a separation between school and society, and a return to authority. Begin to apply the twenty proposals Stasi commission. It should perhaps also ban the headscarf at university. It is necessary that children can eat together in the cafeteria, everything. Why would there be interference between the religious and the school? It must be done with it, it's over. It is not necessary that it becomes an element of separation between children. There are how many simple principles to follow. We underestimated the indoctrination of kids. And for security, we must tackle the mafias and trafficking in the territories. There must be put in place a national strategy. You must hit them where it hurts: money.
Locally, do you consider that some politicians have ignored many things in the name of social peace?
True, but do not type on elected. It is at the national level it must pass. Will we finally discuss these questions? Are we able to have a politically Republican approach, non-partisan? Will we continue to return the hot potato on such fundamental issues as the school and security?
Do you not fear thus strengthen the FN?
There FN, but especially the millions of people who no longer vote for me and represent time bombs. The problem today is not the National Front, but the policy responses that the left and right make to society. The demonstrations of January 11 pose unprecedented requirement issues that are political parties are to the wall. It is necessary that the political leaders of this country sweep in front of their door, and I will go back to Giscard. They are liable in relation to the National Front. In 1991, Fabius said that the FN asked good questions, but brought bad solutions. Well said. Chirac once spoke of neighborhood problems, fell on him ... The Peyrefitte 1978 report on "security and freedom" has earned him many critics. Similarly, the work of Gilbert Bonnemaison resumed the work of Peyrefitte.
You propose the creation of a national council of fight against terrorism?
This is actually what I will propose to the Prime Minister. It's a Republican approach to an issue that concerns the general interest, where there is no place for partisan approaches. It would be representative of all political tendencies. He would first an overview and shared proposals. That is, for me, the answer to the demonstrations on 11 January.
How do you see the near future?
I'm not very optimistic. When we see that we applauded in some quarters after the tragedy of January 7 ... The situation is reminiscent of September 11, 2001. I think we have not seen the worst. I fear that revival is even more painful.
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Alkuperäinen teksti: http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/islam-radical-andre-gerin-les-gouvernements-successifs-ont-renonce-a-combattre-le-mal-20-01-2015-1898144_23.php
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Uskon ja toivon että Ranskan koulutilanne löytää tiehensä vaalikeskusteluihin.
Ylen avulla tai ilman.
Tämä on sen verran tärkeätä.
Tässä alkuperäinen Obinin raportti vuodelta 2004, hänen omilta nettisivuiltaan:
QuoteLes signes et manifestations d'appartenance relegieuse dans les établissements scolaires'
http://www.jpobin.com/pdf2/2004lessignesetmanifestations.pdf
Monsieur Obinin on ansioitunut mies ja hänen nettisivunsa lukemisen arvoisia:
QuoteThis site is designed to be a resource center.
It is designed for teachers, school counselors or guidance, personal management and inspectors and their trainers.
It includes a large number of texts of articles, reports and conferences on a variety of topics. Most are downloadable.
Their classification by theme will allow faster searching, possibly deepening a subject and sometimes ... to follow the evolution of the mind of the author.
A training tool, analysis of business situations, is also available with a methodology, some examples treaties and many real cases to analyze.
The site is regularly supplemented and enriched.
http://www.jpobin.com/index.htm (Google translate)
Katsokaas,
kun islamisaatiota ei ole olemassa. On olemassa vain päälle liimattu ideologia sekä yksittäisiä tapauksia ja kaupunginosia.
:flowerhat:
Neuvostoliitossa ei ole ihmisoikeusloukkauksia. Sen sijaan länsimaissa loukataan ihmisoikeuksia puhumalla loukkaavasti Neuvostoliitosta.
:flowerhat:
Niin kauan kuin pariisilaisten enemmistö saa juoda maitokaffet rauhassa, on kivaa laulaa valistuneesti marseljeesia. Ihan pikkuisen ehkä tulee vilkuilleeksi olan yli ja ehkä ihan pikkuisen lisää euroja tiettyjen maahanmuuttajaryhmien kotoutukseen kumminkin? Kyllä se siitä.
The Local raportoi tarkemmin minkälaisiin toimenpiteisiin Ranskan hallitus on nyt valmis:
QuoteFrance vows to restore French values in schools
France unveiled a wide-ranging plan on Wednesday aimed at restoring authority to teachers as well as reinforcing secular and Republican values in schools. It comes after scores of reports of pupils refusing to respect a minute's silence for the victims of the terror attacks.
...
In a speech on Wednesday night Hollande backed teachers saying they were on the "front line" in the battle to defend French values.
He vowed that any incident that goes against the values of the Republic will be dealt with severely.
Hollande's keynote speech on education came after a number of worrying incidents in the days after the terrorist attack on the Charlie Hebdo offices.
As politicians evoked a newfound national unity following the attacks, there were up to 200 incidents of dissent in schools as many students refused to respect the nationwide minute's silence for the victims.
Teachers have told of how they have struggled to encourage pupils to pay respects to the victims.
...
Here's an outline of what France plans:
Reinforce secularism and Republican values
A training program will be set up to help promote secularism as well as moral and civic teaching. Around 1,000 teachers will receive the training before July 2015. More resources for the teaching of secularism as well as religions will be made available to schools.
Teaching the values of the Republic
During the recruitment process, aspiring teachers will be tested on their ability to teach the values of the Republic. Also, the teaching of secular values will become an important part of the training of future teachers.
Restore authority to teachers
Hollande flung his full support behind France's teachers, who in the aftermath of the attacks "had to deal with all kinds of reactions provoked by the these horrors: emotion, fear, silence, sometimes denial and there was also provocation, at times."
Hollande stressed that the incidents should be "neither exaggerated or underestimated but looked at clearly."
However he added that "any kind of behaviour that questions the values of the republic or teachers' authority will be brought to the schools' headteachers. Every incident will be followed up.
"Each time that dignity or equality between girls and boys is called into question or words are uttered that go against the fundamental values of the school and the Republic, there will be action taken," he stressed.
Vallaud-Belkacem's plan on Thursday stresses the importance of restoring the authority of teachers through the learning of the "rules of civility and politeness".
Parents and pupils to sign charter
One way they plan to boost teachers' powers will be with the signing of a "charter of secularism" by students - and their parents, every September. The charter will lay out rules specifying the conduct pupils must show in class to ensure respect and politeness.
Community service for pupils who break rules
Any student who commits an offence, or presumably disrespects the Republican values, will find themselves having to carry out community service, perhaps with the red cross or Unicef.
Citizenship courses
All pupils in elementary schools will undergo a training course, which will centre around moral and civic education.
Fighting radicalization
Headteachers will receive "enhanced training to help them detect the early signs of radicalization among pupils.
Volunteer citizens groups
The president also wants to set "réserves citoyennes" which are essentially groups of volunteers that will be established in each regional education authority who can visit schools to raise awareness of different topics.
These people could come from the world of business, journalism or culture, Hollande envisages.
Day of secularism
To reaffirm the French principal of secularism or laïcité as it is called in French, Hollande announced that a special secularism day will be celebrated in schools all around the country on December 9th from this year onwards.
Funds to battle inequality
The education minister Vallaud-Belkacem says grants that are set aside for the country's poorest students will be increased by 20 percent.
Evaluating French levels
When pupils reach the age of eight or nine (CE2) they will undergo an evaluation to ensure they have a good level of French language. The evaluation will be done to identify difficulties and set up "an appropriate response to the needs of each child."
http://www.thelocal.fr/20150122/france-vowsto-restore-secular-and-moral-values-in-schools
Quote from: chacha2 on 24.01.2015, 16:10:31
The Local raportoi tarkemmin minkälaisiin toimenpiteisiin Ranskan hallitus on nyt valmis:
QuoteFrance vows to restore French values in schools
France unveiled a wide-ranging plan on Wednesday aimed at restoring authority to teachers as well as reinforcing secular and Republican values in schools. It comes after scores of reports of pupils refusing to respect a minute's silence for the victims of the terror attacks.
...
In a speech on Wednesday night Hollande backed teachers saying they were on the "front line" in the battle to defend French values.
He vowed that any incident that goes against the values of the Republic will be dealt with severely.
Hollande's keynote speech on education came after a number of worrying incidents in the days after the terrorist attack on the Charlie Hebdo offices.
As politicians evoked a newfound national unity following the attacks, there were up to 200 incidents of dissent in schools as many students refused to respect the nationwide minute's silence for the victims.
Teachers have told of how they have struggled to encourage pupils to pay respects to the victims.
...
Here's an outline of what France plans:
Reinforce secularism and Republican values
A training program will be set up to help promote secularism as well as moral and civic teaching. Around 1,000 teachers will receive the training before July 2015. More resources for the teaching of secularism as well as religions will be made available to schools.
Teaching the values of the Republic
During the recruitment process, aspiring teachers will be tested on their ability to teach the values of the Republic. Also, the teaching of secular values will become an important part of the training of future teachers.
Restore authority to teachers
Hollande flung his full support behind France's teachers, who in the aftermath of the attacks "had to deal with all kinds of reactions provoked by the these horrors: emotion, fear, silence, sometimes denial and there was also provocation, at times."
Hollande stressed that the incidents should be "neither exaggerated or underestimated but looked at clearly."
However he added that "any kind of behaviour that questions the values of the republic or teachers' authority will be brought to the schools' headteachers. Every incident will be followed up.
"Each time that dignity or equality between girls and boys is called into question or words are uttered that go against the fundamental values of the school and the Republic, there will be action taken," he stressed.
Vallaud-Belkacem's plan on Thursday stresses the importance of restoring the authority of teachers through the learning of the "rules of civility and politeness".
Parents and pupils to sign charter
One way they plan to boost teachers' powers will be with the signing of a "charter of secularism" by students - and their parents, every September. The charter will lay out rules specifying the conduct pupils must show in class to ensure respect and politeness.
Community service for pupils who break rules
Any student who commits an offence, or presumably disrespects the Republican values, will find themselves having to carry out community service, perhaps with the red cross or Unicef.
Citizenship courses
All pupils in elementary schools will undergo a training course, which will centre around moral and civic education.
Fighting radicalization
Headteachers will receive "enhanced training to help them detect the early signs of radicalization among pupils.
Volunteer citizens groups
The president also wants to set "réserves citoyennes" which are essentially groups of volunteers that will be established in each regional education authority who can visit schools to raise awareness of different topics.
These people could come from the world of business, journalism or culture, Hollande envisages.
Day of secularism
To reaffirm the French principal of secularism or laïcité as it is called in French, Hollande announced that a special secularism day will be celebrated in schools all around the country on December 9th from this year onwards.
Funds to battle inequality
The education minister Vallaud-Belkacem says grants that are set aside for the country's poorest students will be increased by 20 percent.
Evaluating French levels
When pupils reach the age of eight or nine (CE2) they will undergo an evaluation to ensure they have a good level of French language. The evaluation will be done to identify difficulties and set up "an appropriate response to the needs of each child."
http://www.thelocal.fr/20150122/france-vowsto-restore-secular-and-moral-values-in-schools
Käykääpä tehotarkastamassa kristityt yksityiskoulut, ettei niihin vain ole pesiytynyt suvaitsemattomuutta ja fundamentalismia, joka voisi vaarantaa kansakunnan turvallisuuden.
Hyvää joul...eikun sekularismin päivää.
Ranskalaiset koulut tienasivat 250 MILJOONAA EUROA! Nyt äkkiä lisää mamuja joka paikkaan!
Meneekö samaan läjään ? :
http://yle.fi/uutiset/ranskalaisisa_asetettiin_syytteeseen_alakouluikaisten_lastensa_yllyttamisesta_jihadismiin/7759232
QuoteRanskalaisisä asetettiin syytteeseen alakouluikäisten lastensa yllyttämisestä jihadismiin
Tapauksella ei siis ole mitään tekemistä islamin kanssa... luulisin:
QuoteEtelä-Ranskassa kolmen lapsen isä on asetettu syytteeseen alaikäisten lastensa yllyttämisestä terroritekoihin, syyttäjä kertoo maan tiedotusvälineiden mukaan.
Miestä syytetään myös 6–10-vuotiaiden lastensa pahoinpiteltystä sekä vanhemman velvollisuuksista laistamisesta.
Tutkimukset 45-vuotiasta valencialaista miestä vastaan käynnistettiin marraskuussa, kun yksi lapsista oli valittanut koulussa joutuneensa pahoinpidellyksi viettäessään viikonlopun isänsä luona.
Lapset ovat valittaneet myös, että heidät on pakotettu katsomaan kuvia terrorismia puolustavia äärimmäisen väkivallasia kuvia, sanoo tapausta lähellä oleva lähde. Lasten vanhemmat ovat eronneet.
Isä pidättiin keskiviikkona entisen vaimonsa tekemän valituksen nojalla.
Herää kysymys, että oliko isän pelikonsoli oli vanhentunut, eikä yhteiskunnan tuki ollut riittävä...
Kolme oppilasta Châteaurouxissa eivät tykännet kaverinsa pro-Charlie kannanotostaan Facebookissa,
missä tämä sanoi kannustavansa toleranssia ja sekularismia.
Kannanotto suututtivat heitä niin että
kolmikko, iältään 15v- 16v, pahoinpitelivät kaverinsa raasti koulunsa polkupyörävarastossa.
Nyt perjantaina koulu päätti että näillä kolmella ei enää ikinä ole asiaa kouluun.
Seuraavaksi heitä odottaa ja nuorisotuomarin tuomiota tästä ryhmähyökkäyksestä.
Sisäministeri ehti jo kiittää koulua nopeasta ja vakaasta toiminnastaan tässä tapauksessa :
QuoteThree high school students excluded after the assault of a pro- "Charlie" friend
World | 01/25/2015 at 2:19
The three students of Chateauroux, suspected of having violently assaulted one of their comrades who had taken up the cause of Charlie Hebdo on Facebook after the shooting of 7 January, were permanently excluded from the school. This decision was taken, Friday, January 23, after a lengthy disciplinary board within the technical and vocational school Blaise Pascal.
The Minister of Education, Najat Vallaud-Belkacem, had visited the city last week after the incident. She praised the "quick and firm response" of the teaching team, "both in terms of disciplinary sanctions, transmission to justice because the perpetrators of the attack are under judicial control, but also educational response. " Teenagers, aged 15 and 16, have been indicted for "group assault" by the juvenile judge.
A high school student who had posted on the network social message of "tolerance and secularism" was severely assaulted by other students in the bicycle garage of the school, which houses a thousand students and students. The three assailants had admitted the facts and explained their actions with"' they were angry "according to an official of the school.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemonde.fr%2Fsociete%2Farticle%2F2015%2F01%2F25%2Ftrois-lyceens-exclus-apres-l-agression-d-un-de-leur-camarade-pro-charlie_4562982_3224.html&edit-text= (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lemonde.fr%2Fsociete%2Farticle%2F2015%2F01%2F25%2Ftrois-lyceens-exclus-apres-l-agression-d-un-de-leur-camarade-pro-charlie_4562982_3224.html&edit-text=) käännös pikkasen muokattu
Nämä kolme kaverusta eivät muuten toimineet 'yksin' vaan paikalla oli noin tusina nuorta.
Kolmikko toimi pää-agitaattorina. (Oliskohan asialla ollut 'löyhä kaveriporukka?)
Yhdessä he kuitenkin kaikki hyökkäsivät uhrinsa päälle. Potkien ja lyöden.
Uhri sai runsaasti ruhjeita ympäri kehonsa ja oli opiskelukyvytön jopa kahdeksan päivää hyökkäyksen jälkeen.
Vanhemmat tekivät hyökkäyksestä rikosilmoituksen (eikä koulu kuten edellinen artikkeli antoi ehkä ymmärtää).
Tämä joukkopahoinpitely tapahtui tammikuun yhdeksäs päivä, eli pari päivää Charlie Hebdon hyökkäyksen jälkeen.
http://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/centre/2015/01/12/chateauroux-appel-au-calme-apres-une-agression-au-lycee-blaise-pascal-630884.html
250 miljoonaa euroa on naurettavan vähän. Se on täysin mitätön ja vaikutuksiltaan olematon summa rahaa. Joka kaiken lisäksi mitätöityy ranskan presidentti Hollanden sosialistiseen ja monikulttuuriväkivaltaa suvaitsevaan politiikkaan.
Mikäli Ranskan hallitus olisi tosissaan edes puolustamassa tasavallan arvoja kouluissa, ymmärretään nyt tosiasiat ja mittasuhteet. Tällöin tasavallan puolustusrahamäärät laskettaisiin miljardeissa. Miljoonien ihmisten kohdalla raha tosiaan on miljardeja ei satoja miljoonia. Mutta tähän Ranskan hallituksella ei ole rahaa.
66,394,000 ihmisen kansakunnassa ei ole edes kysytty kuinka suuri määrä kansalaisista on muslimeita. Viralliset arviot liikkuvat marginaalilla 5 tai 10 prosenttia. Tällaisten tilastollisten tosiasioiden ja mittasuhteiden valossa, väite että Ranska edes kykenee moisella 250 miljoonan panostuksella tuomaan tasavallan arvoja kouluihinsa on silkkaa itsepetosta.
Ainoa järkevä ja kannatettava asia olisi käyttää tuo raha sotilaiden palkkoihin jotka tulevat kouluihin valvomaa yleistä järjestystä. Ranskalaiset lähiökoulut EIVÄT ole tasavallan kouluja eikä ranskalaiset muslimilähiöt halua alueelleen muita ihmisiä tai tasavallan arvoja. Vain ilmainen raha kelpaa. Ja ainoastaan Pariisin pormestarin naurettava oikeusjuttu Fox kanavaa vastaan jossa kiistellään muotoseikoista kun kaupungin alueella palaa jatkuvasti autoja osoittaa että Ranska on sisällissodassa tai etnisessä konfliktissä jota se ei voi eurotaloudessa ikinä voittaa.
Jotta Ranskan työvoimapulan paikkaajille olisi edes alkeellista työtä, pitäisi Ranskalla olla oma teollisuus, oma finanssipolitiikka ja ennenkaikkea oma valuutta. Eurotaloudessa Ranskan tasavallan loru loppuu.
Ranskan vallankumouksen jälkeen Ranskassa on käyty useita vallankumouksia ja maa on miehitetty pariinkin kertaan. Joten lienee kohta aika kypsä Ranskan "sisäiselle konfliktille" joita historiaan ei koskaan mahdu liikaa.
Ranskan hallitushan päätti budjetoida 250 miljoonaa euroa kouluhin jotta nuoret oppisivat oikeanlaisia arvoja.
Kuten myös 425 miljoonaa anti-terrorismia vastaan. Aiotaan lanseerata kaikenlaisia toimenpiteitä terrorismia vastaan, lisää työpaikkojakin on luvassa: http://www.thelocal.fr/20150121/france-terrorism-valls-jihadists-surveillance
'Ensi-avuksi' Ranskan hallitus on kuitenkin julkaissut muutamaa videoklippiä, millä yritetään saada nuoria ymmärtämään mitä jihadistiksi lähteminen oikeasti tarkoittaa ja videoiden avuilla estää nuoria kansalaisia osallistumasta jihadiin islamistien riveissä :
QuoteFrance launches shock video to 'stop jihadists'
The French government has released a shock video campaign in the hope of dissuading young French nationals from heading to the Middle East to fight with Islamic jihadists, by telling them "you'll find hell on earth and you'll die alone, far from home".
The video (below) attempts to show French viewers the difference between what they're told about heading to Syria and Iraq and the reality of they can expect over there.
The video begins with a skim through popular Jihad groups on social media site Facebook, followed by an anonymous and friendly invitation to join the action. "The truth is out there and now is the time to go... if you want more info just give me your number...".
What follows are a series of comparisons between "What they tell you" and "the reality", often combined with extremely graphic images.
WARNING: The video below contains graphic content. Discretion is advised.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2fpywn_stopdjihadisme-ils-te-disent_news
#Stopdjihadisme : Ils te disent... by gouvernementFR
"They told you: "Sacrifice yourself by our side for a just cause"," the text reads, together with images of masked and flag-waving gunmen
It's followed by black and white images of captives being killed and their bodies being dumped, together with the words: "In reality, you'll find hell on earth and you'll die alone, far from home."
Another clip reads "They tell you: Come and start a family with one of our heros", followed by the government's "reality" message that "you'll bring your children up in the midst of war and in terror."
The rest of the film, released by the French government on Tuesday, shows images of children suffering and dead bodies being dragged away.
It concludes with a warning that the "Jihadist indoctrination gets new victims every day", followed by a hashtag that translates to #StopJihadism.
The video clip, which has been doing the rounds in French social media circles since it was published, is part of the government's three-year plan to crack down on terrorism after 17 people were killed in the Paris terror attacks this month.
Prime Minister Manuel Valls announced last week that €425 million would be invested in counter-terrorism, with €60 million specifically devoted to the prevention of radicalization, including what he referred to as "cyber patrols" of social media sites.
"Terrorists often use the same social networks as everyone else," Valls explained, calling on Internet service providers to comply with their legal obligations and moral responsibility.
http://www.thelocal.fr/20150128/france-releases-shock-anti-jihad-video
Katsokaa tuota videota ja sanokaa mitä mieltä olette siitä.
Ja katsokaa myös muut ' #Stopdjihadisme : Ils te disent' - klipit Ranskan hallituksen omalla sivuilla: http://www.dailymotion.com/gouvernementFR
Väkivaltainen islamismi ei ole kaunis asia - se on ainakin vihdoin ja viimein selvinnyt jopa Ranskan demarihallitukselle.
HS julkaisi Ranskan hallituksen videon : http://www.hs.fi/hstv/uutiset/Ranska+Jihadistina+kuolet+helvetiss%C3%A4/v1422424291129?ref=tf_iHSisboksi630-a&utm_campaign=tf-hs&utm_source=iltasanomat.fi&utm_medium=tf-desktop&utm_content=frontpage
Iltalehtikin: http://www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/2015012819104776_ul.shtml
Kuten myös Nelonen: http://www.nelonen.fi/uutiset/videot-ja-uutislahetykset/1813959-ranska-jihadistina-kuolet-helvetissa
Obinin-raporttia he eivät toki maininneet vielä sanallakaan.
Harmi.