2014-09-04 Hollanti: Geert Wildersin puhe Hollannin parlamentissa

[Tosiasiallinen Nuiva]

Wilders ei turhia kiertele, vaan sanoo kuinka asiat ovat ja mitä pitää tehdä.

Madam Speaker, actually I was expecting flowers from you. I am celebrating an anniversary these days. Exactly ten years and two days ago, I left a party whose name I cannot immediately remember. During these ten years and two days. I have been much criticized. Most importantly for always saying the same thing.
My critics are right. Indeed, my message had been the same during all these years. And today, I will repeat the same message about Islam again. For the umpteenth time. As I have been doing for ten years and two days.

I have been vilified for my film Fitna. And not just vilified, but even prosecuted. Madam Speaker, while not so many years ago, everyone refused to broadcast my film Fitna, we can today watch Fitna 2, 3, 4 and 5 daily on our television screens. It is not a clash of civilizations that is going on, but a clash between barbarism and civilization.

The Netherlands has become the victim of Islam because the political elite looked away. Here, in these room, they are all present, here and also in the Cabinet, all these people who looked away. Every warning was ignored.
As a result, also in our country today, Christians are being told: "We want to murder you all". Jews receive death threats. Swastika flags at demonstrations, stones go through windows, molotov cocktails, Hitler salutes are being made, macabre black ISIS flags wave in the wind, we hear cries, such as "Fuck the Talmud", on the central square in Amsterdam.
Indeed, Madam Speaker, this Summer, Islam came to us.

In all naivety, Deputy Prime Minister Asscher states that there is an "urgent demand" from Muslims to "crack down" on this phenomenon. Last Friday, in its letter to Parliament, the Cabinet wrote that jihadists are hardly significant. They are called a "sect", a "small" group.

This is what those who look away wish, these deniers of the painful truth for 10 years and two days, the ostrich brigade Rutte 2.

But the reality is different. According to a study, 73% of all Moroccans and Turks in the Netherlands are of the opinion that those who go to Syria to fight in the jihad are "heroes". People whom they admire.
And this is not a new phenomenon. Thirteen years ago, 3,000 people died in the attacks of 9/11. We remember the images of burning people jumping from the twin towers. Then, also, three-quarters of the Muslims in the Netherlands condoned this atrocity. That is not a few Muslims, but hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the Netherlands condoning terrorism and saying jihadists are heroes. I do not make this up. It has been investigated. It is a ticking time bomb.
Madam Speaker, is it a coincidence that for centuries Muslims were involved in all these atrocities? No, it is not a coincidence. They simply act according to their ideology. According to Islam, Allah dictated the truth to Muhammad, "the perfect man." Hence, whoever denies the Koran, denies Allah. And Allah leaves no ambiguity about it what he wants. Here are a few quotes from the Quran:
Surah 8 verse 60: "Prepare to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of Allah."
Surah 47 verse 4: "Therefore, when ye meet the unbelievers, smite at their necks". We see it every day in the news.
Another quote from Allah is Surah 4 verse 89: "So take not friends from the ranks of the unbelievers, seize them and kill them wherever ye find them."

Madam Speaker, the Koran on the table before you, is a handbook for terrorists. Blood drips from its pages. It calls for perpetual war against non-believers. That Koran before you is the hunting permit for millions of Muslims. A license to kill. That filthy book is the Constitution of the Islamic State. What ISIS does is what Allah commands.

This bloodthirsty ideology was able to nestle in the Netherlands because our elites looked away. Neighborhoods, such as Schilderswijk, Transvaal, Crooswijk, Slotervaart, Kanaleneiland, Huizen, you name it. There, the caliphate is under construction; there, the Islamic State is in preparation.

During the past ten years and two days, the ostrich Cabinets did nothing. It has nothing to do with Islam, they lied to the people. Imagine them having to tell the truth.

But the people have noticed. Two thirds of all Dutch say that the Islamic culture does not belong in the Netherlands. Including the majority of the electorate of the Labour Party, the majority of the voters of the VVD, the majority of the voters of the CDA, and all the voters of the PVV.

The voters demand that, after ten years and two days of slumber, measures are finally taken. The voters demand that something effective happens. No semi-soft palliatives. Allow me to make a few suggestions to the away-with-us-mafia. Here are a few things which should happen starting today:

Recognize that Islam is the problem. Start the de-Islamisation of the Netherlands. Less Islam.
Close our borders to immigrants from Islamic countries. Immediately border controls. Stop this "cultural enrichment".
Close every Salafist mosque which receives but a penny from the Gulf countries. Deprive all jihadists of their passports, even if they only have a Dutch passport. Let them take an ISIS passport.
Do not prevent jihadists to leave our country. Let them leave, with as many friends as possible. It it helps, I am even prepared to go to Schiphol to wave them goodbye. But let them never come back. That is the condition. Good riddance.
And, as far as I am concerned, anyone who expresses support for terror as a means to overthrow our constitutional democracy has to leave the country at once. If you are waving an ISIS flag you are waving an exit ticket. Leave! Get out of our country!

Madam Speaker, war has been declared against us. We have to strike back hard. Away with these people! Enough is enough!

http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php/component/content/article/87-news/1872-speech-geert-wilders-during-parliamentary-debate-in-the-netherlands

Lisäsin boldit Wildersin vaatimuslistaan.

[sense]

So true, so sad...

[Tosiasiallinen Nuiva]

Bloggari Kumitonttu on kääntänyt puheen suomeksi. En kuitenkaan liitä sitä tänne, vaan se on luettavissa blogista: http://www.murphyssoninlaw.blogspot.fi/2014/09/geert-wildersin-puhe-hollannin.html

[Publicola]

Kahden tutkijan mielestä Wilders käytti heidän tilastojaan väärin:

DutchNews: Geert Wilders misused our statistics, researchers say 18.9.2014
Researchers from two separate institutes have distanced themselves from the way Geert Wilders has used their reports to score politicial points about Dutch Muslims.

During Wednesday's debate on the government's 2015 spending plans, Wilders claimed that 73% of Dutch Muslims believe people travelling to fight in Syria are heroes.

The research was published in May 2013 by Amsterdam bureau Motivaction. Senior researcher Ahmed Ait Moha told newspaper Trouw the figures are not only outdated, but refer to ousting Syrian leader Assad, not support for the IS militias.

Wilders also claimed three-quarters of Dutch Muslims support the introduction of sharia law in the Netherlands. However, researcher Ruud Koopmans, told Trouw his focus was on rules outlined in the Koran not the interpretations of the Koran used to devise Sharia law.

[Mehud]

Kerraassaan hienoa tekstiä taas. Taattua Geertiä. Kiitos suomennoksesta.

[Boon Choo]

Kahden tutkijan mielestä Wilders käytti heidän tilastojaan väärin:

DutchNews: Geert Wilders misused our statistics, researchers say 18.9.2014
Researchers from two separate institutes have distanced themselves from the way Geert Wilders has used their reports to score politicial points about Dutch Muslims.

During Wednesday's debate on the government's 2015 spending plans, Wilders claimed that 73% of Dutch Muslims believe people travelling to fight in Syria are heroes.

The research was published in May 2013 by Amsterdam bureau Motivaction. Senior researcher Ahmed Ait Moha told newspaper Trouw the figures are not only outdated, but refer to ousting Syrian leader Assad, not support for the IS militias.

Wilders also claimed three-quarters of Dutch Muslims support the introduction of sharia law in the Netherlands. However, researcher Ruud Koopmans, told Trouw his focus was on rules outlined in the Koran not the interpretations of the Koran used to devise Sharia law.

Hih. Kas kun eivät vetoa siihen, että Syyriaan ei mene suoria lentoja.

"Itseasiassa tässähän henkilöt lentävät Libanoniin, Turkkiin ja muihin maihin. Emme voi tietää keitä Syyriaan päätyy. Eivät ihmiset voi olla varmoja ovatko he edes sankareita. Heh heh.", kertoo Al Ahmad Hassu veikeä ilme ketunhäntä kainalossa..

[JJohannes]

Vaikka gallupin tekijät olisivat tarkoittaneet kysymykset tietyllä tavalla niin tuskin kysymykset ovat olleet muodossa "ovatko mielestäsi Syyriaan lähtevät muslimitaistelijat sankareita, mutta vain tarkoittaen niitä muslimitaistelijoita jotka eivät taistele ISISin, Hizbollahin jne. jne. riveissä?" tai "kannatatko Sharia-lain käyttöönottoa Hollannissa mutta vain sen sharia-lain, joka minusta on oikea sharia-laki johon kuuluu x, y ja z mutta ei a, b ja c, kuten useat uskonoppineet väittävät?".

[Roope]

Islamic fundamentalism is widely spread

WZB study shows significantly high numbers amongst Europe's Muslims

Religious fundamentalism is not a marginal phenomenon in Western Europe. This conclusion is drawn in a study published by Ruud Koopmans from the WZB Berlin Social Science Center. The author analyzed data from a representative survey among immigrants and natives in six European countries. Two thirds of the Muslims interviewed say that religious rules are more important to them than the laws of the country in which they live. Three quarters of the respondents hold the opinion that there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran.

These numbers are significantly higher than those from local Christians. Only 13 percent of this group put religious rules above national law; just under 20 percent refuse to accept differing interpretations of the Bible. For Ruud Koopmans, this powerful tendency toward Muslim religious fundamentalism is alarming: "Fundamentalism is not an innocent form of strict religiosity", the sociologist says. "We find a strong correlation between religious fundamentalism – actually among both Christians and Muslims – and hostility toward out-groups like homosexuals or Jews." Almost 60 percent of the Muslim respondents reject homosexuals as friends; 45 percent think that Jews cannot be trusted; and an equally large group believes that the West is out to destroy Islam. The Christians' answers for comparison: As many as 9 percent are openly anti-Semitic; 13 percent do not want to have homosexuals as friends; and 23 percent think that Muslims aim to destroy Western culture.

The Six Country Immigrant Integration Comparative Survey collected data in more than 9,000 telephone interviews in Germany, France, Netherlands, Austria, Belgium and Sweden. The respondents were Turkish and Moroccan immigrants, as well as control groups of natives. This study is the first that allows analysis on an empirical base of the extent and impact of religious fundamentalism.

Ruud Koopmans' article "Fundamentalism and out-group hostility. Comparing Muslims and Christians in Europe" has just been published in the December issue of the quarterly WZB-Mitteilungen. The issue presents various contributions on migration and integration topics, mainly in German.

Lehdistötiedote 9.12.2013

Ruud Koopmans:

External validation
• Study ,,Muslims in Germany" (MID; 2007): ,,People who modernize Islam, destroy the true faith": 43% agreement (by comparison SCIICS Germany: 50% of Muslims agree that Muslims should return to the roots of Islam)
• MID: ,,Following the prescriptions of my religion is more important to me than democracy": 47% agreement (by comparison SCIICS Germany: 45% of Muslims agree that the rules of Islam are more important than the laws of Germany)
• Heitmeyer 1996: ,,Reform and modernization of Islam should be rejected": 49% of Turkish 2nd generation agree (by comparison SCIICS Germany 2nd generation Turks: 55% agree that only one interpretation of islam is possible)
• Heitmeyer 1996: ,,Zionism threatens Islam": 33% of 2nd generation German Turks agree (by comparison SCIICS German-Turkish 2nd generation: 36% agree that Jews cannot be trusted)
• Conclusion: answers to fundamentalism and out-group hostility items seem te be relatively stable over time and do not depend strongly on question wording

Eli Koopmans on oikeassa siinä, että hänen kyselyssään ei puhuttu suoraan sharia-laista vaan "Koraanin säännöistä" (tosin niiden välille ei myöskään tehty eroa), mutta hänen itsensäkään mielestä muslimien vastauksissa ilmenevä fundamentalismi ja ulkoryhmiin kohdistuva vihamielisyys eivät juuri muutu, kun kysymysten muotoilua muutetaan.

[Blanc73]

Wilders on fiksu ja rohkea mies.

[Tosiasiallinen Nuiva]

Wilders on taas avannut sanaisen arkkunsa parlamentissa. Tekstitys englanniksi: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=725_1423806506

[Iloveallpeople]

Wilders on taas avannut sanaisen arkkunsa parlamentissa. Tekstitys englanniksi: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=725_1423806506

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