2009-09-14 Englanti: Brittiläinen identiteetti vaakalaudalla?

[kohmelo]

If children are taught that patriotism is wrong, Britain's very identity is at stake
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1213246/If-children-taught-patriotism-wrong-Britains-identity-stake.html

A recent survey of teachers by London University's Institute of Education found that some three-quarters of them believed it was their duty to warn their pupils about the dangers of patriotism.

One teacher said that praising patriotism excluded non-British pupils.

'Patriotism about being British divides groups along racial lines, when we aim to bring pupils to an understanding of what makes us the same.'

But on the contrary, patriotism is what binds us together through a shared sense of belonging and a desire to defend what we all have in common.

What this teacher seemed to be saying was that children from immigrant backgrounds can't have that shared sense of belonging because they are not really British. Is that not itself a racist attitude?

And if such children really are merely foreign visitors, it is even more extraordinary that teachers should tailor the education of children who are British to suit the few who are not.

Back in the Eighties and Nineties, history teaching was at the centre of a tremendous battle over British national identity.

In one camp were those who believed that it meant transmitting to pupils the story of this nation and its institutions; in the other camp were those who said that to do so was racist.

That was because they subscribed to the view that Britain was itself intrinsically racist: that it had a history of colonial exploitation and that a new society had to be created that would treat the culture of every incomer as equal to the culture of the indigenous British.

More fundamentally even than that, they believed the very idea of a nation with a distinct identity at all was racist.

According to their reasoning, the nation led to nationalism, and nationalism led to prejudice and war. So destroying national identity would eradicate all such horrors and create the brotherhood of man on earth.

Jos lapsille opetetaan, että isänmaallisuus on väärin, niin Britannian koko identiteetti on vaakalaudalla. Kolmeneljäsosaa opettajista katsoo, että heidän tehtävänsä on varoittaa lapsia isänmaallisuuden vaaroista.

Edit: Typo, kiitos Alystai.

[Veli Karimies]

Esitän arveluni jota en käsittele faktana, että tuosta kolme neljäsosasta 99% on naisia.

[Alystai]

A recent survey of teachers by London University's Institute of Education found that some three-quarters of them believed it was their duty to warn their pupils about the dangers of patriotism.

Kolme neljäsosaa opettajista.

[Teekkari Tampereelta]

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/09/faking-statistics-institute-of-education-%E2%80%9Cresearch%E2%80%9D-claims-patriotism-is-bad/

Toinen mielipide asiaan on, että kyselyn tulos johtuu erikoisesta otannasta. Tiedä häntä sitten mikä on totuus...

[Risto A.]

Esitän arveluni jota en käsittele faktana, että tuosta kolme neljäsosasta 99% on naisia.

Ei pidä vettä, koska evidenttisesti meillä Suomessakin on sellaiset lukemat miehiä korkeissa asemissa, jotka heittäisi vaikka kaikki Suomalaiset bussin alle koska tahansa pienen ulkomaisen tunnustuksen tai miniatyyripokaalin takia.

[JPU]

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/09/faking-statistics-institute-of-education-%E2%80%9Cresearch%E2%80%9D-claims-patriotism-is-bad/

Toinen mielipide asiaan on, että kyselyn tulos johtuu erikoisesta otannasta. Tiedä häntä sitten mikä on totuus...

Tuolla linkin takana kuitenkin todetaan:

Official figures from the Department for Children, Schools and Families (DCSF) released earlier this year showed that white British people have already been ethnically cleansed from inner city London.

Of the approximately 310,907 children in London schools, 159,340 do not have English as their mother tongue, as opposed to 151,567 who do.

In effect this means that white British schoolchildren are already a minority in Britain's capital city and unless the immigration invasion is checked and reversed, the vast majority of the next generation of people living in London will be Third World in origin.

Thus it is no surprise to find that teachers in those schools — even if they are white — are cautious about promoting Britishness, as they are in classrooms full of non-British people.

Furthermore, as Mohammed is now the single most popular boy's name in London, teachers will also find themselves confronted with a large "pupil" element who are actively hostile and aggressive towards anything which promotes traditional British values.

Tuo viimeinen kappale olikin sitten jo jotain oikein hauskaa.

[Morsum]

Eikös Ruotsissa jotkut jästipäät olleet haluamassa niiden lippua pois kun sitä on joskus heiluteltu valtausretkillä? Lentäväthän linnutkin rajojen yli, joten miksei myös idiotismi.

[VMJ]

Eikös Ruotsissa jotkut jästipäät olleet haluamassa niiden lippua pois kun sitä on joskus heiluteltu valtausretkillä? Lentäväthän linnutkin rajojen yli, joten miksei myös idiotismi.

Jotain tuollaista. Kun siinä on risti, niin se liittyy kristinuskoon ja loukkaa varmasti jotakin. Ehkä kuunsirppi ja tähti seuraavaksi?