2016-10-24 Unkari: Orban tuomitsee EU:n "neuvostoliittolaistamisen"

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Tuolla on tuo Orbanin koko puhe:
Paikalla myös Puolan presidentti.
http://www.therebel.media/watch_viktor_orb_n
Neuvostoliiton ja kommunismin vastaisessa muistojuhlassa..
Orban varoittaa puheessaan että EU ollaan muuntamassa Neuvostoliiton kaltaiseksi imperiumiksi ja yhdistyneeksi Euroopaksi.
Euroopan kansallisvaltiot korvattaisiin "Euroopan Yhdysvalloilla".
Orban varoittaa monikulttuurista ja Euroopan kristillisten perinteiden katoamisesta.

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Pieni kiusallinen episoodi Angela Merkelille jälleen

Helmut Kohlin hautajaisista kehkeytyi kiusallinen draama Saksassa – entisen liittokanslerin leski ei halua puhujaksi Angela Merkeliä vaan EU:n hylkimän Unkarin pääministerin

http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005266534.html

Leski haluaa Kohlin hautajaisiin puhujaksi Victor Orbanin Merkelin sijaa.

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Hah hah hah. Taisi Helmut olla samaa mieltä Merkelistä. Eiköhän Se Kohl:in hehkuttaminen lopu aika äkkiä.

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Leski haluaa Kohlin hautajaisiin puhujaksi Victor Orbanin Merkelin sijaa.

Toive ei toteutunut

European Commission - Statement
Updated - Media advisory for the European memorial ceremony for Helmut Kohl in Parliament on Saturday 1 July
Brussels, 28 June 2017

The ceremony will start with speeches by the three presidents of the EU institutions - Antonio Tajani for the European Parliament, Jean-Claude Juncker for the European Commission and Donald Tusk for the European Council, followed by a video, "Helmut Kohl, a great European".

Then, at the request of Dr. Kohl's widow and in their personal capacity, personal farewell messages will be given by the former President of the United States Bill Clinton, former Spanish Prime Minister Felipe González and Russian Prime Minister Dmitri Medvedev.

French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel will deliver the closing speeches at the ceremony.

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Pieni kiusallinen episoodi Angela Merkelille jälleen

Helmut Kohlin hautajaisista kehkeytyi kiusallinen draama Saksassa – entisen liittokanslerin leski ei halua puhujaksi Angela Merkeliä vaan EU:n hylkimän Unkarin pääministerin

http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005266534.html

Leski haluaa Kohlin hautajaisiin puhujaksi Victor Orbanin Merkelin sijaa.

Jaahas, voimallinen viesti. Totuus ja oikeudenmukaisuus kummittelevat hautajaisseuran yllä.

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"Unkari-solidaarisuus ry" - mitä tuolle tapahtui, vai oliko se taas sitä samaa puhjää löpinää, josta Homma ja hommalaiset ovat valitettavasti tulleet kuuluisiksi?

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Sarastuslehdessä Orbanin Romaniassa pitämä puhe:
https://sarastuslehti.com/2017/07/26/viktor-orbanin-puhe-kuuluuko-eurooppa-eurooppalaisille/

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Politico.eu:ssa oleva arvio tilanteesta:

Orbán wins the migration argument
Suddenly most EU leaders echo the Hungarian prime minister.
http://www.politico.eu/article/viktor-orban-migration-eu-has-won-the-argument/

No one in Brussels wants to say it out loud, but Viktor Orbán is winning the migration debate.
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The Hungarian prime minister may be much maligned in European capitals for his anti-immigrant rhetoric, his opposition to the EU's refugee relocation policy, and for building a border fence.

But look closely at how EU leaders now talk about the issue and the policies they've adopted since the 2015 crisis, and it's clear Orbán's preference for interdiction over integration has somehow prevailed.

There was an echo of Orbán's long-standing call for tougher border controls in Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker's claim in his State of the Union speech this week that "We are now protecting Europe's external borders more effectively."
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"Germany was quietly looking for common ground with the Visegrad and several aspects of what they were proposing were incorporated into the discussion" — Milan Nic

"Nobody will admit it in this town, but yes, Orbán's narrative is prevailing," a senior EU official said.
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EU officials and diplomats insist that the apparent alignment with Orbán is just a case of the Hungarian prime minister's views reflecting basic common sense in certain areas. But, they said, the EU leadership remains committed to policies of openness, and especially to encourage legal migration — a point Juncker stressed in his speech.
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One EU diplomat noted that Hungary had taken actions that were in violation of international law or EU policy, while Brussels was working to develop legal solutions. And the diplomat insisted that any seeming agreement with Orbán was temporary at best.

"It's not a matter of being in line with Orbán," the diplomat said. "It's just that first we had to show things are under control, then we can work on better ways of managing flows."

Orbán has been insisting for months that he's winning the argument.

Poiminta kommenteista:

At this point, the question is inevitable: why didn't the government itself take such initiatives three years ago, being unchanged since then all other conditions, thus avoiding the crisis?

It seems inevitable to conclude that the government at that time did not intend to curb the landings (PM Renzi in 2015 declared that for immigrants Italy "was building bridges and not walls") and decided to intervene only when the government realized that the population was close to uprising: Mr. Minniti (neo-interior minister and author of the June measures) has publicly stated that he started the policy of containment of arrivals when he realized that "it was in danger the democratic stability of the Country".

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Pari poimintaa pitkästä puheesta.

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's speech on the 61st anniversary of the 1956 Revolution and Freedom Fight
23 October 2017, Budapest

Ladies and Gentlemen,

A motherland is a natural and spiritual reality. Soviet rule, however, pushed us into a space without history, and sought to destroy both our past and our culture. The strongest weapon against physical and mental terror is national remembrance. This is why today we came here, of all places. The building we see here was the headquarters of the Arrow Cross, and later the centre for communist party state terror. This building was a nest first for national socialists, and then for international socialists. This is where they imprisoned and tortured those who they feared the most, and who they therefore hated the most. In 2002 we cut it out of space and time with a blade-like wall, elevated it to a memorial, and created a museum here, in the heart of Budapest, of Hungary and of Europe. Let it remind the world that the Hungarians' thirst for freedom cannot be denied. We created it in this place to also remind us that if freedom is lost, if national independence is lost, we ourselves will also be lost. It warns us that freedom is never given to us for free: we must always fight for it. We must always defend our freedom, whether from Austrians, Russians, Germans or Soviets, from those wearing the garb of the Arrow Cross or of communism. No one else will ever do this for us. This is what we are used to: here "liberation" has often meant the beginning of a new occupation. A nation which at the right moment, in the hour of reckoning, has sons and daughters who are ready to defend the motherland is a lucky nation. Because in this corner of Europe there regularly come times when it is not enough to talk about one's love for the motherland: one must defend the motherland.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Remembering also helps us to hold the truth of our life today in a steadfast gaze. The truth is that, thirty years after communism, there is once again a world power which seeks to turn the European nations into a monochrome, homogeneous mass. Like all cultured European nations, we Hungarians have always had our own notion of our country: a vision of freedom and civilisation; a vision of how to be human and how to live as human beings. This is how, throughout history, we've always rebuilt Hungary, once we've rid ourselves of our oppressors. This is how it was after we tore down communism and sent the Soviets packing. The truth is that now, three decades down the line, everything that we think about Hungary and the order of life in Hungary is once again under threat. The truth is that after we regained our freedom in 1990, we have once again arrived at a crossroads in our history. We wanted to believe that the old troubles could no longer return. We wanted to believe that the deranged dream that the communists had of turning us Hungarians into Homo sovieticus could never return, ever again. And now here we are, astonished to see that the forces of globalism are trying to force our doors open, and are working on turning us Hungarians into Homo brusselius. We wanted to believe that never again would we have to deal with political, economic and intellectual forces seeking to sever our national roots. We also wanted to believe that in Europe there was no room for terrorism and violence.

That is not how things have turned out. Europe has been blinded by its former achievements, and, without even noticing, has found itself forced to the back of the world stage. It once dreamt of taking on a leading role in the world, but now even its own neighbours hardly bother with it, and it can barely put its own house in order. Instead of realising this, they started campaigns of revenge against those who warned them of the threats of intellectual and spiritual self-immolation and of nihilism. People who believe that Europe needs external borders that can be physically protected have been branded as closed-minded. Those who believe that immigration poses a threat to our culture have been branded as racists, and those who have spoken up for the protection of Christianity have been branded as exclusionists. Those who have stood up for the protection of families have been branded as homophobes. Those who believe that Europe is an alliance of nations have been branded as Nazis. And finally, those who have stepped off the Brussels economic policy path, that leads to a quagmire, have been branded as fantasists. Few have survived these campaigns of retribution.

... They developed a plan with which they now seek to turn Europe into a continent with a mixed population. We alone resist them now. We have reached the point at which Central Europe is the last migrant-free region in Europe. This is why the struggle for the future of Europe is being concentrated here.

We Hungarians were the ones who broke the ice of silence. We are the ones who identified the forces which seek to sever Europe from its national roots. We brought them into light, and to combat them urged united national – and later international – solidarity. We could do no other. Our world is not that of half-light and covert warfare: we can never win with that approach. In darkness our enemies outnumber us. We only stand a chance of defending our borders, stopping the mass population movement and preserving our national identity in a battle fought with our helmets' visors up, and with clear, straightforward talk. If we want a Hungarian Hungary and a European Europe, we must talk about it in a straightforward manner. And it is not enough to talk: we must also fight – as we have always done when our freedom and independence have been at stake.

Nowadays all elections in Europe are crucial. This is true of the recent elections in Austria, Germany and the Czech Republic, and this will be the case in Italy and Hungary next year. Now it is being decided whether the peoples of Europe take control back over their own national lives, whether they take control back from the European bureaucrats acting in cahoots with the economic elites. We must achieve far-reaching changes in every field: in politics, in the economy, in our intellectual life, and above all, in culture. Now it is being decided whether we can bring back our great old Europe: the Europe that existed in the days before multiculturalism. We want a Europe that is safe, just, civic, Christian and free.

...before 2010, how many people believed that we would soon have a new constitution based on national foundations, Christian in culture and capable of protecting our families? They said it would be impossible. They said it would be impossible to send the IMF packing. They said it would be impossible to hold the banks to account, it would be impossible to impose taxes on multinational companies, and it would be impossible to reduce household utility bills. They said it would be impossible to provide jobs for everyone, it would be impossible to resist mass population movement, and that it would be impossible to stop the migrant invasion with a fence on our borders.

Not once could I tell you with absolute certainty that we would succeed. In life there are no such guarantees. One thing has always been certain, however: if we don't even try, we definitely cannot succeed. There is always some chance. In 1956 we salvaged the honour of the nation. In 1990 we regained our freedom. And in 2010 we embarked on the path of national unification. No one can tell us that something is impossible. We know that mass population movement can be stopped, that globalisation can be restrained, that Brussels can be reined in, that the financial speculator's plan can be torpedoed, and that a straitjacket can be forced onto the insane idea of a United States of Europe. All it takes is for us here in Central Europe – Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Romanians and Hungarians – to unite our efforts. All it takes is for us to discover the strength in our hands, in our heads and in our hearts, and to behave in a way that befits proud nations.

Ladies and Gentlemen,

The stakes are high, and we must not treat anything casually. Our strength today must not lead us into complacency or inactivity. We must never underestimate the power of the dark side. We are strong favourites to win the next election, but we have yet to earn it, and we have yet to complete the fight for victory. We will need everyone. We will therefore make our preparations in the months ahead. In March we will start anew, and then in April we will win again.

Go for it Hungary! Go for it Hungarians!

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Merkelin hallituskumppani ylistää Unkaria – Orbán: Olen Euroopan rajojen vartija
https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10009496

Unkarin pääministeri Viktor Orbán tapasi Baijeria hallitsevan CSU-puolueen johtoa. CSU jatkanee Saksan liittohallituksessa Angela Merkelin CDU:n rinnalla.
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Baijerin osavaltion pääministeri Horst Seehofer haluaa tiiviimpää yhteistyötä Keski-Euroopan maiden kesken. CSU-puolueen eli kristillissosiaalisen unionin johtaja Seehofer puhui perjantaina puolueensa kokouksessa "keskieurooppalaisesta liittoumasta".

CSU on Saksan liittokanslerin Angela Merkelin johtaman kristillisdemokraattisen CDU:n sisarpuolue. Konservatiivipuolueet istunevat sosiaalidemokraattisen SPD:n kanssa myös Saksan seuraavassa hallituksessa.

Yksi Seehoferin kaavaileman liittouman jäsenistä lienee Unkari, jonka pääministeri Viktor Orbán vieraili CSU:n kokouksessa. Yhteistyön keskeiseksi teemaksi nousisi maahanmuuttopolitiikka, josta Unkarilla ja Baijerilla on yhteisiä näkemyksiä.

Orbánin johtama Unkari on yksi maista, jotka ovat kieltäytyneet ottamasta vastaan Kreikasta ja Italiasta siirrettäviä turvapaikanhakijoita. EU on ryhtynyt oikeustoimiin Unkaria, Puolaa ja Tšekkiä vastaan.
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– Kerroin baijerilaisille ystävillemme, että vuosi 2018 on kansan tahdon ylösnousemuksen vuosi Euroopassa. Eurooppalaisten on pakko askel askeleelta tehdä omien etujensa mukaisia päätöksiä siirtolaisasiassa. Voitte pitää minua rajavartiokapteeninanne, Orbán sanoi tiedotustilaisuudessa CSU:n kokouksen jälkeen.
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CSU-johtaja Seehofer: Unkari kehittyy positiivisesti

Baijerin pääministeri ja CSU:n johtaja Horst Seehofer kiitteli perjantaina Orbánin toimia. Baijerissa ilmestyvän  Seehofer sanoi, ettei hänen tehtävänsä ole opettaa Unkaria.

– Orbán on saanut unkarilaisten luottamuksen useissa demokraattisissa vaaleissa ja hän on onnistunut kehittämään Unkaria positiiviseen suuntaan. Hänen toimintansa pohjana on epäilemättä oikeusvaltio, Seehofer sanoi.

CSU:n kokouksesta otsikoihin on päätynyt myös puolueen europarlamentaarikon Manfred Weberin lausunto, jossa hän vaati "lopullista ratkaisua" pakolaiskysymykseen.  puolueen liberaalisiipeen kuuluvaa Weberiä on arvosteltu voimakkaasti, sillä sanoissa on kuultu kaikuja natsi-Saksasta. Weberin mukaan häntä on tulkittu tahallaan väärin.

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Unkarin hallituksen sivut
2018 will be year for restoring people's will in Europe
January 6, 2018 8:23 AM

"The people's will is clear": the people do not want to live under the threat of terrorism, they want security, they want their borders to be protected, and they want their leaders to take those people out of the Schengen Area who have no reason to be there. They should be taken back to a place where they can start a new life, he added.

Mr Orbán stressed: "Right from the beginning we have stood on the foundations of the protection of the borders and compliance with the Schengen regulations. We stood on the foundations of the Schengen regulations, built a fence, for instance, and reinforced our border controls when there were places in Europe where chaos and illegality were being celebrated", he said.

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