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Started by hattiwatti, 11.01.2016, 15:23:32

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hattiwatti

... on niin ajan hermolla, että sitä varten on syytä avata oma ketjunsa. Aihe toki liittyy kulta & hopea ketjun asioihin, kuten vaikka allaoleva.

Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention

by Brad Hoff       January 6, 2016   

Newly disclosed emails show that Libya's plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO's intervention.

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/

hattiwatti

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PaulR

Quote from: hattiwatti on 11.01.2016, 15:23:32
Newly disclosed emails show that Libya's plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO's intervention.

Tätä arveltiinkin, Hillaryn s-postit vain varmistavat. Kulta sitten katosi ajalle tyypillisesti jäljettömiin, lienee Sveitsin sulattamoiden kautta myydyn Kiinaan. Saddamin kuolemansynti oli ilmeisesti aie ryhtyä myymään öljyä euroissa. Olisivat odottaneet muutaman vuoden, kunnes trendi olisi voimistunut riittävästi niin, ettei Pentagon ennätä jokaista dollarihegemoniaa uhkaavaa maata pommittamaan.



hattiwatti

Jon Hellevig on usein listattu pahimpiin putin-trolleihin oikeamielisten silmissä.

Laitetaan kunnon trolli-mälli liittyen dollarin ja euron taloudellisiin vaikutuksiin.

http://www.awarablogs.com/dollar-euro-monopolies-destroyed-market-economy/

Laajempi:

http://www.awarablogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/dollar-euro-monopolies-destroyed-market-economy.pdf

hattiwatti

Etenee askel askeleelta.

http://indianexpress.com/article/business/business-others/iran-india-to-settle-outstanding-crude-oil-dues-in-rupees/

QuoteIran, India to settle outstanding crude oil dues in rupees
The payment agreement needs amendment as tax exemption is contingent on the pact notified by the Centre in January 2012 which allows only 45 percent of oil payments in rupees.

Ditching the dollar, Iran and India have agreed to settle all outstanding crude oil dues in rupees in preparation to future trade in their national currencies. The dollar dues — $6.5 billion equaling 55 per cent of oil payment — would be deposited in National Iranian Oil Co account with Indian banks.

Sources said work was underway to amend the agreement with Iran to allow entire crude oil payment to be made in rupees. "Finance Ministry is moving a Cabinet note on withholding tax exemption on oil payments," they said.

Since 2013, Indian refiners have been depositing 45 per cent of their oil payments to Iran in rupees with UCO Bank and withholding the remainder after a payment route through Turkey's Halkbank was stopped under US and European sanctions.

The payment agreement needs amendment as tax exemption is contingent on the pact notified by the Centre in January 2012 which allows only 45 percent of oil payments in rupees. Budget 2012-13 exempted Indian refiners from withholding 40 per cent tax while paying NIOC.

Sources said IDBI Bank, which is also highly insulated from global sanctions due to lack of overseas presence, would be authorised to open a joint account in which $4 billion would be parked for non-oil imports.

The remaining $2.5 billion would be deposited in UCO Bank. "One option being considered is to provide a $150 million loan to Iran for the development of Chabahar port through UCO Bank," said sources.

Sources added that Iran also plans to use these rupee deposits in Indian banks as collateral for printing more rials through its central bank. And once the sanctions are lifted, they said, a large share would be transferred to Iran through conversion in Euros.

The currency switch policy is part of the offensive by both countries ahead of a significant surge in trade once the sanctions are lifted. Keeping that in focus, two are preparing a Preferential Trade Agreement and working on increased connectivity in banking sector for which India's finance ministry has approved that Iran be removed from the sensitive list.

hattiwatti

Nyt jo EU-maa Unkarikin on laskenut liikkeelle Kiinan valuuttaan perustuvia velkakirjoja - ekana Euroopassa. Ei enää dollarisellaisia, kuten ennen.
Ei ihme, että euroeliitti vihaa Viktor Orbania.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-17/hungary-issues-sovereign-bonds-denominated-yuan-another-nail-us-reserve-currency-sta

Noottikriisi

En yhtään tiedä onko tämä asiaa vai huuhaata mutta laitetaanpa kommentoitavaksi.
https://politicalvelcraft.org/2016/02/01/shanghai-shock-april-19-2016-yuan-based-gold-standard/

QuoteChina's new gold-backed Yuan to be issued next Tuesday April 19, 2016, the entire world will have a choice of a new currency to use for international trade: The old US Dollar which is backed by nothing, or the new Chinese Yuan, which is backed by gold. Which currency would YOU use?
Onko sinusta jo kauan tuntunut siltä että monikulttuurisuus on rikkaus?

guest3656

Petrodollari vapisee jo. Nyt Kiina hinnoittelee myös spot-kullan juaneissa Shanghain kultapörssissä.

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"China Yuan Gold Fix Is Part Of A Planned Shift From Dollar": China's Bocom

China's shift to an official local-currency-based gold fixing is "the culmination of a two-year plan to move away from a US-centric monetary system," according to Bocom strategist Hao Hong. In an insightfully honest Bloomberg TV interview, Hong admits that "by trading physical gold in renminbi, China is slowly chipping away at the dominance of US dollars." Gold, silver, and petroleum "are the three USD-based commodites that China wants most control of" according to Hong but "gold in particular is one of the commodities that China is hoarding very hard."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-20/china-yuan-gold-fix-part-planned-shift-dollar-chinas-bocom

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China Launches Yuan Gold Fix To "Exert More Control Over Price Of Gold"


Overnight a historic event took place when China, the world's top gold consumer, launched a yuan-denominated gold benchmark as had been previewed here previously, in what Reuters dubbed "an ambitious step to exert more control over the pricing of the metal and boost its influence in the global bullion market." Considering the now officially-confirmed rigging of the gold and silver fix courtesy of last week's Deutsche Bank settlement, this is hardly bad news and may finally lead to some rigging cartel and central bank-free price discovery. Or it may not, because China would enjoy nothing more than continuing to accumulate gold at lower prices.

The first Chinese benchmark price, derived from a 1 kg-contract traded by 18 participants on the Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE), was set at 256.92 yuan ($39.69) per gram on Tuesday, equivalent to $1,234.50/ounce.

China's gold benchmark is the culmination of efforts by China over the last few years to reform its domestic gold market in a bid to have a bigger say in the bullion industry, long dominated by London where the global spot benchmark price is currently set.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-19/china-launches-yuan-gold-fix-exert-more-control-over-price-gold

guest3656

Geopoliittiset muutokset murentavat petrodollarin hegemonian:

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Is This The End Of The U.S Dollar? Geopolitical Moves "Obliterate U.S Petrodollar Hegemony"

It seems the end really is nigh for the U.S. dollar.

And the mudfight for global dominance and currency war couldn't be more ugly or dramatic.

The Saudis are now openly threatening to take down the U.S. economy in the ongoing fallout over collapsing oil prices and tense geopolitical events involving the 9/11 cover-up. The New York Times reports:

Saudi Arabia has told the Obama administration and members of Congress that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of American assets held by the kingdom if Congress passes a bill that would allow the Saudi government to be held responsible in American courts for any role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

China has been working for years to establish global currency status, and will strengthen the yuan by backing it with gold in moves clearly designed to cripple the role of the dollar.

Putin also waits in the shadows, making similar moves and creating alliances to out-balance the United States with a growing Asian economy on the global stage.

Is This The End Of The U.S Dollar

The Federal Reserve, Henry Kissinger, the Rockefellers and their allies created the petrodollar and insisted upon the world using the U.S. dollar to buy oil, placing debt in American currency and entire countries under the yoke of the West.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-23/end-us-dollar-geopolitical-moves-obliterate-us-petrodollar-hegemony


stefani

Uhkaus Saudi-Arabiasta oli vain uhkaus, joka todennäköisesti ei toteudu.



guest3656

Onko 200-miljoonainen Pakistan seuraava maa, jonka USA Nato-maiden avustamana pommittaa paskaksi? Pakistanin uskonoppineet suosittelevat paperirahan korvaamista kulta- ja hopeakolikoilla islamilaisissa maissa:

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Pakistan's top Islamic legislative advisory body has suggested abandoning paper currency in favour of gold and silver coins while urging the government to adopt an Islamic economic system.

The proposition came through Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) Chairman Maulana Mohammad Sheerani at a seminar organised by the council on Tuesday. The conference was held to discuss the fundamentals of Islamic economy and the current problems facing the country.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1092538/top-cleric-suggests-using-gold-silver-currency/

guest3656

USA:n lisääntyneen militarismin takana kuoleva petrodollari:

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The US Endgame? Creating A Climate That "Could Easily Be Transformed Into War"


Most readers have been watching, as the U.S. and Russia seem to be positioning themselves along Cold War lines.  The posturing is not confined to maneuvering military assets; it also runs along economic lines, in which most warfare is at least based if not a major or the sole impetus. Each power has sought to cement its claims/presence in areas bordering the sphere of influence of, or the actual territory of the other power.  Such posturing can be dangerous and lead to an incident that escalates into the uncontrollable

Now the BRIC nations are starting their markets up in earnest, backing their currencies with gold and trading in Shanghai, China, and Moscow in Russia.

Another point of interest that may have a great effect is that Congress is in the midst of passing legislation to hold Saudi Arabia partially accountable for the 9-11 attacks.

The dying Petrodollar system has been on life support for some time, and it appears other nations such as the BRIC's are taking the initiative to return to a true monetary standard.  This is the same gold and silver standard that the U.S. should never have left in the first place.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/us-endgame-creating-climate-could-easily-be-transformed-war

Hämeenlinnan Oraakkeli

Quote from: Kaupunkisuunnittelija on 29.04.2016, 09:31:58
Onko 200-miljoonainen Pakistan seuraava maa, jonka USA Nato-maiden avustamana pommittaa paskaksi? Pakistanin uskonoppineet suosittelevat paperirahan korvaamista kulta- ja hopeakolikoilla islamilaisissa maissa:

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Pakistan's top Islamic legislative advisory body has suggested abandoning paper currency in favour of gold and silver coins while urging the government to adopt an Islamic economic system.

The proposition came through Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) Chairman Maulana Mohammad Sheerani at a seminar organised by the council on Tuesday. The conference was held to discuss the fundamentals of Islamic economy and the current problems facing the country.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1092538/top-cleric-suggests-using-gold-silver-currency/

No ei

Tuskinpa tämä idea tulee toimimaan.

P

#16
Quote from: Kaupunkisuunnittelija on 29.04.2016, 09:31:58
Onko 200-miljoonainen Pakistan seuraava maa, jonka USA Nato-maiden avustamana pommittaa paskaksi? Pakistanin uskonoppineet suosittelevat paperirahan korvaamista kulta- ja hopeakolikoilla islamilaisissa maissa:


Ihan realistinen arvaus; ei ole. Pakistanilla on ydinase ja jonkuntasoiset alueelliset kantojärjestelmät. Maa on myös jonkin tasoinen "liittolainen" alueella Yhdysvalloille.  Joo, ei edes suurvallat ala sotimaan ydinasemaiden kanssa ilman jotain valtavaa syytä.

Ja de-dollarisaatiossa ongelmana on ylipäätään muiden valtioiden ja muiden valtioiden takaamien pankkien antamat dollarimääräiset velat. De-dollarisaatio ei voi toteutua kuin pikkuhiljaa ja hitaasti, ilman valtavaa talousromahdusta ympäri maailmaa. Tietysti  jos iso maailman laajuinen talousromahdus tulee muuten ja pankki- ja kv-velkasysteemit paukkuvat, niin se voi nopeuttaa de-dollarisaatiota. Uutta velkahimmeliä, kun ei sitten poksahduksen jälkeen ole enää pakko rakentaa dollarin varaan, vaan voidaan aloittaa ns. puhtaalta pyödältä.
Kestää parikymmentä vuotta ennen kuin suomalainen lapsi alkaa kuluttamisen sijasta tuottaa yhteiskunnalle jotain. Pakolaisen kohdalla kyse on luultavasti parista vuodesta. Siksi pidän puheita pakolaisten aiheuttamista kansantaloudellisista rasitteista melko kohtuuttomina.
- J. Suurpää, HS 21.4.1991

hattiwatti

http://sputniknews.com/business/20160507/1039230459/sberbank-yuan-bonds.html
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Russia's largest bank, Sberbank plans to develop yuan-denominated loans for Russian companies and is considering issuing yuan-denominated obligations.

Yuan-denominated bonds will be issued in a bid to diversify Sberbank's debt, the press office told RIA Novosti.

"Currently, Sberbank is actively cooperating with a number of Chinese banks, including with the purpose of providing loans in yuan to Russian corporate borrowers. The company will also consider diversifying its passives in yuan, including yuan-denominated debt instruments," the company reported.

The amount and dates of the possible bond issue have not been provided.

The last time Sberbank entered the debt market was in February 2014 when the bank issued 10-year subordinated eurobonds worth $1 billion, with a yield of 5.5 percent.

In April, Sberbank Deputy Chairman Bella Zlatkis announced that the bank would issue new eurobonds.

"I think there will be a lot of foreign investors. They know how to bypass anti-Russian sanctions," she was quoted as saying by Deutsche Wirtschafts Nachrichten.

Viite saksankieliseen linkkiin tässä: http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2016/05/06/gegen-den-dollar-russische-bank-begibt-anleihen-in-yuan/

Tämä on normaalia, hitaasti etenevää de-dollarisaatio meininkiä, mutta asiasta tällä kertaa tekee maamme kannalta mielenkiintoisen, että Esko Aho joka kuulemma vallankäyttäjä muutoin atlantistisessa perskeko-hallituksessa kepun taustamiehenä oli pyrkimässä Sberpankin johtokuntaan, sillä pankilla olisi merkittävä asema muutoin tuhoontuomitun Rosatom-projektin rahoittajana. Tämä on asia jota mielenkiintoista pitää silmällä, koska poikkeaa niin vahvasti muun hallituksen USA state departmentista sanellusta linjasta.



guest3656

Venäjästä on tullut Kiinan suurin öljyntuontimaa:

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De-Petrodollar-ization Esclates - China Imports Record Amount Of Russian Oil In April


We have reported for years that Russia and China have been doing everything they can to displace the use (and influence) of the US dollar.

The US of course, either oblivious or too arrogant to care, has continued to bring Russia and China together by annoying both equally with its incessant meddling. Recall that recently both China and Russia have had to warn the US about its insistence on flying reconnaissance planes too close to their borders.

Of course, as the US has been playing geopolitical games, China and Russia have been working on strengthening their relationship with one another. At the end of 2015, China had become Russia's biggest oil customer, and as of April, Russian oil shipments to China hit a record high. Russia has also surpassed Saudi Arabia as the biggest crude exporter to China.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-23/de-petrodollar-ization-esclates-china-imports-record-amount-russian-oil-april


Atte Saarela

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-02/de-dollarization-accelerates-china-readies-yuan-priced-crude-oil-benchmark-backed-go
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The world's top oil importer, China, is preparing to launch a crude oil futures contract denominated in Chinese yuan and convertible into gold, potentially creating the most important Asian oil benchmark and allowing oil exporters to bypass U.S.-dollar denominated benchmarks by trading in yuan, Nikkei Asian Review reports.
Tämä todellakin on erittäin iso juttu.

Yhdysvaltojen nykyinen vaihtotaseen vaje ei toimi jos öljykauppaa aletaan käydä enemmän muissa valuutoissa.

Dollarin kurssin pitää laskea aika paljon jotta Yhdysvaltojen talous sopeutuu ja vaihtotase tasapainottuu..

Kun tähän yhdistetään Yhdysvaltojen suuri valtionvelka, voi lähivuosina tapahtua mielenkiintoisia asioita.